#psyker-class | Darktide | Page 599

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:20 AM

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That's what zealots do, they use melee lol

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:21 AM

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i dislike the current zealot melees

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there's no power sword or illisi equivalent; there's the heavy sword, but the stagger on it is not as great as the power sword/illisi

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:21 AM

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It's just zealot is a much better melee fighter than psyker IMO. Apart from infinite dodges on fswords melee psyker doesn't have that much to reinforce the playstyle

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:21 AM

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the psyker can melee too, and tbh, i prefer using the illisi

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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that playstyle doesn't need much reinforcing, especially when melee has pretty good traits

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you melee-lock ranged enemies and get 5% toughness from melee kills

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the toughness regeneration alone is well worth it

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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and infinite dodges, and shield or deflection

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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Yes, psyker can melee very well. It's just it's a much less forgiving playstyle. Zealot can yolo into any situation and live

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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and melee is one of psyker's best DPS options

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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Psyker is a wet napkin

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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i feel safer playing the psyker

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:22 AM

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sure you'll have to play safer

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can't dive into firing lines when gunners/reapers are alive

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:23 AM

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But honestly good zealot in melee is untouchable

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:23 AM

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stuff that knocks your toughness or ignores it is significantly more dangerous

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:23 AM

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then the zealot with hr and far far away zealot with twbs and then vet

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:23 AM

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but melee as psyker is otherwise very comfy and preferable

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especially for rushing a map

burnt maple Jul 4, 2023, 9:24 AM

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I've seen a lot of gun psykers recently. It's a weird mix, too. Some with the autopistol and some with the revolver. They're always either really good or just worthless

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:24 AM

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Most of the time they are a burden tbh. There's a few decent ones. But I'll prefer a staff psyker on the team any day

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:25 AM

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spice veldt there's no power sword or illisi equivalent; there's the heavy sword, but the st...

laughs in pushing a crusher on its ass with 2 shoves

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:25 AM

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i forgot about punishment

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:25 AM

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you want worse flamer, worse plasma, eletric boogaloo or worse crusher power maul?

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KEKW_ogryn

burnt maple Jul 4, 2023, 9:26 AM

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One of the main reasons I like seeing or being a psyker is they normally don't need ammo, but both revolver and autopistol just tear through ammo pickups

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:26 AM

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that's wrong

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it's at least as much ammo efficient as a zealot

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and you have bb for long target sniping

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or big armored target

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flayer helps too

burnt maple Jul 4, 2023, 9:27 AM

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having a staff just eliminates ammo needs, I always see that as a downside on Ogryn or if we have like two veterans on the team

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:27 AM

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That's the thing, giving up the staff you give up a ranged pressure tool with infinite resource. I'd rather see ammo go to kickback or reaper ogryn, or a vet tbh. Much better used

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:27 AM

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and melee being extremely good against specials especially as a staff psyker

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:28 AM

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listen man, you may play with discount vet, but i never have an ammo problem, i'm the one feeding the others with my shares...

burnt maple Jul 4, 2023, 9:28 AM

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Lol

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:28 AM

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you also get ranged single-target DPS with a gun

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it's a tradeoff

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you might not be willing to make that tradeoff, but I think that tradeoff is well worth it

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:28 AM

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harsh cobalt That's the thing, giving up the staff you give up a ranged pressure tool with in...

so never play with a zealot or an ogryn then

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less ammo? just melee more and be careful ffs

burnt maple Jul 4, 2023, 9:30 AM

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It's be nice if we had feats that worked specifically for guns or let us use peril for ammo or something.

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 9:30 AM

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I like having a good ogryn

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:30 AM

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if I didn't prioritize melee here, I wouldn't have been able to snipe a few specials https://streamable.com/o1k1a5

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gg2_chasmterminus_hishock_whackwhack

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lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:30 AM

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the amount of wounds

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ur team is a walking advertisement to leave when the match starts

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:31 AM

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arco is a pro uprising player

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 9:31 AM

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lunar hollow ur team is a walking advertisement to leave when the match starts

Nah, easy revives for the penance thumbsup_ogryn

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 9:31 AM

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thumbsup_ogryn

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:31 AM

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cosmic sigil arco is a pro uprising player

true

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:31 AM

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safe crystal Nah, easy revives for the penance <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>

TRUE

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:32 AM

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already got it

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im runing out of penances to get that arent the kills one and mission type exclusive

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:36 AM

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is this correct btw?

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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illisi is better if there are groups and those aren't crusher groups

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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and by tougher scattered I mean like scabs/dregs rather than poxwalkers, as well as single targets

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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spice veldt illisi is better if there are groups and those aren't crusher groups

yeah

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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you have enough cleave by default to cleave through two maulers/ragers with the illisi's special

maiden knoll Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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burnt maple having a staff just eliminates ammo needs, I always see that as a downside on Og...

Even in Teams with no psykers I rarely run out of ammo

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:37 AM

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I've yet to try the illisi

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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spice veldt you have enough cleave by default to cleave through two maulers/ragers with the ...

so yesterday we talked about the combos, illisi pairs well with staffs that don't do well hordeclearing+guns, and the deimos is good with staffs used to hordeclear

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right?

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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p much

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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aight

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thanks

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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pull out the deimos for specials and all that

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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I think I'll use the trauma staff

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my problem right now is getting melee kills on dregs for melk

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my team keeps shooting them

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before I can get there

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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i like the illisi for the stagger as well https://streamable.com/tb0hug

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illisi_walk_up_in_this_bitch

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ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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prob just have to be pretty forward

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:38 AM

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I would've wanted this if it weren't for the ammo.

maiden knoll Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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I think there is enough ammo to kill everything, so its just a matter of who shoots. Unless you are particularly wasteful and shoot hordes and pox walkers.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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i like to run ahead if i know my teammates are picking mats in the side paths

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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https://streamable.com/4rdpke

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thank you arco

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do not trust arco

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he is a teamkiller

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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Bought

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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spice veldt i like the illisi for the stagger as well https://streamable.com/tb0hug

I noticed in the psykanium that the 2nd stab for the deimos did an incredible amount of damage

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:39 AM

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lunar hollow https://streamable.com/4rdpke

get FUCKED

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yeah the deimos' 2nd heavy deals 2x damage

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the 1st light deals 2.5x damage but has worse armour mods against maniac/carapace

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:40 AM

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spice veldt get FUCKED

😦

robust sierra Jul 4, 2023, 9:40 AM

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spice veldt the 1st light deals 2.5x damage but has worse armour mods against maniac/carapac...

I see

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:40 AM

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huh yeah you wouldn't have really noticed that barrel

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:41 AM

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i literally only saw it when i turned back to the reaper

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and then it was like

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shrug

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:41 AM

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i forget since i didn't record it, but i think i was panicking cuz my toughness got peeled and i got smacked by a stalker

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:41 AM

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i was chillin

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 9:41 AM

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lunar hollow https://streamable.com/4rdpke

RIP bozo

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:41 AM

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like ok i get the warp charge and then i kill the reaper

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and you just kinda decide now is the time to be the most unhelpful shit ever

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the moment i turn sideways to go faster cuz bb is slow

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:42 AM

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owned

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clearly that is your fault as you had 500ms to react to that barrel and to DI yourself into safety

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:43 AM

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i literally had sounds playing the entire time up until i turned to see the barrel

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fucking bb sfx trolling me

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:43 AM

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that's what you get for managing your warp charges

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:44 AM

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If I want to get an SMG, it's either the Autopistol or the Columnus Infantry Autogun

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:44 AM

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spice veldt that's what you get for managing your warp charges

😦

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https://streamable.com/28wenc

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i can't believe i've done this

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spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:44 AM

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infantry autoguns suffer from extreme lack-of-ammo-itis

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:44 AM

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i got pavlov'd by battle meditation

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:44 AM

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i could never

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and blessings on infantry autoguns are more mediocre

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:45 AM

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Imagine if they have a new unique Blessing that's based around ||their flashlights||.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:46 AM

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prob good enough on lower difficulties if you can hit the one-shot bps on headshots

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:46 AM

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ornate hamlet Imagine if they have a new unique Blessing that's based around ||their flashligh...

that would be pretty interesting

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:47 AM

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Like, either increased critical chances or weakspot damage when the flashlight is activated.

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With the duration similar to the Chain Weapons' Rev It Up blessings.

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:48 AM

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iag has deathspitter/fire frenzy which are normally good however

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the good one (agri) has the smallest mag out of all autoguns in the game

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:48 AM

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AND THAT'S BLOODY CANON.

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The fact that even the Headhunter Autoguns have more ammo mags than the supposed "balance" Autoguns would've killed me via psychic aneurysm.

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:50 AM

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the headhunters also have worse crit/weakspot multis

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:50 AM

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their pre-buff recoil was also extreeeemely painful

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:50 AM

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sounds like a problem im too veteran sharpshooter to have

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:51 AM

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be quiet you not-psyker main

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:51 AM

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lunar hollow the headhunters *also* have worse crit/weakspot multis

Yes, and that's damn ironic for something with the name Headhunter on it!

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:51 AM

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only if u uhhhh

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something gay

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😳

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:51 AM

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Says something racist

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:51 AM

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so true

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i would main psyker if i enjoyed ruining my muscle memory on the other 3 classes

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:52 AM

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simply don't play the other 3 classes

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why have 4 when you can have 1

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:52 AM

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they are fun

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imagine if i didnt play ogryn

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https://streamable.com/viydys

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yes

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how would i do this

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:52 AM

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you're right you're a bitch

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:52 AM

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yea

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ur bitch

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look u fuckin killed me on accident and didnt apologize

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u started the whole thing

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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and killing me on purpose is somehow better

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and with that psychopathic laugh

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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Eggplant hosers

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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i didn't say it was better

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its about being eve

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n

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u know

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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you monster

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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if u said sorry i wouldn't've done that

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u know

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:53 AM

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You both probably sucked eggplant juices.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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i'm pretty sure you would've done that nevertheless

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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no i wouldn't've

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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given your previous track record in those few missions

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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those few missions

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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Together

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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of which all incidents occurred

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after u did that thing to me

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also u cant fucking tell me that DH thing wasn't funny

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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apparently all my fault

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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well im not like

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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yeah it was also funny how we all left you to die

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

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fully blaming u

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i could never ❤️

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but u incited it

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 9:55 AM

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(I don't know why I am potentially throwing fuel to the fire, but I don't feel like caring unless it gets me kicked)

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:55 AM

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spice veldt yeah it was also funny how we all left you to die

u know that's not what im talking about

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:55 AM

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it was funny i agree

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you're still a psychopath

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:55 AM

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i dont think so

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just a little creative is all

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 9:56 AM

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spice veldt yeah it was also funny how we all left you to die

I also really had a blast after the incident, when we revived Josho

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:56 AM

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safe crystal I also really had a blast after the incident, when we revived Josho

you're not real

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:56 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/behind-scary-jumpscare-math-teacher-gif-25119908

Tenor

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 9:56 AM

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KEKW_ogryn

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:56 AM

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arco moment

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i do love how every time arco blames me for something (that isn't fully intentional murder of another teammate) i post the clip and he's like "oh no there's no way u couldve known"

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its cute

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https://streamable.com/jwbb9h

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FINISH HIM

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safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 9:57 AM

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He almost got me killed as well, i was incapacitated for a bit in the corner and the gunbois just shredded me

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~~Incapacitated by laughter~~

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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not my fault that audio is weird in this game

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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dont feel bad arco that was fucking hilarious

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u brought joy to us

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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perish

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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????

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i was SERIOUS and trying to be NICE and u tell me to die

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wtf

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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my death is a very serious issue

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:58 AM

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i rescued u

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i fuckin bull charged through the elites and got u

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:59 AM

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i rescued YOU and you laughed at my death

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:59 AM

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and then i rescued you?????

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:59 AM

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still laughed for 11 seconds

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irredeemable

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 9:59 AM

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i laughed for way longer than that lmfao i just cut the clip off there

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dont say that about me 😦

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 9:59 AM

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even more irredeemable

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:00 AM

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i dont think thats a fair judgement

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i laugh at my own death just as much

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https://streamable.com/giqugo

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Laugh (courtesy of iceslow)

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as seen here

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:01 AM

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i think that was more laughing at your own stupidity to aggro the daemonhost

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already dying of laughter before the dh even teleports to you

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:01 AM

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your reaction is what made that as funny as it was

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it kinda reminded me of the door's stuck video

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 10:03 AM

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Now that i think about it, whenever we're playing i just see Arco getting absolutely annihilated by you and Redverse

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Its only him as well

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You just take flak from it afterwards

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:03 AM

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im not normally deliberately doing bad things to him

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this was an outlier

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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mr stole my kill to keep your vet ult

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even though your ult was off cd by that point

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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Weird coincidence it happens every time we're playing PepoG

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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sir

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u do that shit to me

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ALL

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THE

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TIME

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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you deserve it

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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i deserve u

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smh

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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for taking 4 shells to kill a shotgunner

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😳

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true

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:04 AM

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maybe if u like

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didn't kill shit that's in my fov (and thus rightly mine)

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we wouldnt have problems

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:05 AM

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maybe if you crouched and bended down such that you were looking at the ground

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i love watching that clip of me stealing your shotgunner clip

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i come out of nowhere to ruin your fucking day

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:05 AM

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maybe if u were perhaps nicer to me

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smh

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:05 AM

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hmm it is a tradeoff

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:06 AM

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https://streamable.com/ki28ae

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why did i laugh at this

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i love watching this clip

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never gets old

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:06 AM

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how is that still funny

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how was that even funny

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:06 AM

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i dont know

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:06 AM

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you psycho

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:07 AM

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not my fault u got me acting strange 🥴

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https://streamable.com/h1ijkt

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whyyyyyy

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spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:09 AM

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MINE

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:10 AM

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😭

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i wouldve fucking killed him too

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:11 AM

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this will teach you to have slightly better ping and internet

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:11 AM

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rude

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i wish i had that clip of me using the kickback to knock a burster out of ur attempt to kill it

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that was funny

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:12 AM

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binch

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 10:13 AM

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I was honestly hoping you would've swung at it

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:14 AM

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spice veldt binch

❤️

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u can see me try to shove too

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love darktide

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 10:16 AM

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ogryn reaction time

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:18 AM

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no. i will not accept insults in this case. i was giving iceslow space to shoot it

safe crystal Jul 4, 2023, 10:18 AM

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I gave you space to shove it staregryn

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:19 AM

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;lhyfgkjhfgjkhgl;ikyh l;jg

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no

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fuck you

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you were already shooting i can't fucking tell your intentions WHEN IM NOT LOOKING AT YOU

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 10:23 AM

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Do you guys think the wildfire is worth using?

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I'm still not sure how exactly it works

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 10:24 AM

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It's bugged apparently

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#psyker-class message

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 10:24 AM

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the only builds i've ever seen relied on slaughterer working on dot kills

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and it doesn't do that anymore

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 10:26 AM

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cosmic sigil It's bugged apparently

I guess I'm gonna test it on the meat grinder to see if it actually lets you kill things faster

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 10:28 AM

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It’s main application would be in an ascendant blaze build but since you can’t really buff it with slaughterer now, it’s better to have warp battery so you can actually kill your enemies

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 10:30 AM

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yes, but i'm a man of science, i want to know the precise number.

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ok, the creature spawner is still bugged, i have to do it another day.

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 10:54 AM

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i'm interested in your findings

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 11:17 AM

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cosmic sigil i'm interested in your findings

I will tell you once they fix the crush thing.

digital loom Jul 4, 2023, 11:27 AM

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this is a no crusher zone. get out.

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:33 AM

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Crushers are people too

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:33 AM

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pine relic Do you guys think the wildfire is worth using?

I use it. whatthefuck_heresy

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 11:33 AM

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torment2

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 11:34 AM

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harsh cobalt Crushers are people too

I mean technically they're Ogryns, but close enuff

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:34 AM

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Wildfire does like nothing. When it just spreads one stack of soulblaze to nearby enemies it ticks like 2 damage per tick. Right now it seems utterly worthless

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:35 AM

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Not if you keep your slaughterer stacks up.

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:35 AM

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They need to bring some sort of interaction to soulblaze. For example a feat that gives you maybe 1% of extra damage per each target affected by soulblaze, something like that. Wildfire would make a whole lot more sense

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Right now it feels like a dead end mechanic, outside of purgatus staff

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And if slaughterer still works with it then it doesn't sound intended tbh

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 11:36 AM

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If Wildfire was X% chance to spread existing burn stacks from one enemy to another with the only cap involved being the number of stacks on the original target, it would be spectacular, else its kinda always gonna be a bit meh

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:37 AM

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You have to manually kill stuff with your sword.

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So it's nerfed but if you press f then get in melee it's still good.

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 11:37 AM

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You got gotta get in there

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thumbsup_ogryn

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:38 AM

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Melee psykers gang

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:38 AM

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I just think it's a lost potential. If there was a point in spreading blaze to as many enemies at once as possible it's be a whole new angle to psyker. Alternative way to play really

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But it feels unfinished. Like they planned more, but now it's just few lame feats that lead to nothing

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:39 AM

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Blue flame is cooler than orange flame.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:39 AM

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yeah, our current subclass has a bunch of soulblaze feats but wildfire is really the only one that interacts with it in a fun way

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i'm not sure how much they wanted soulblaze to be a focus design-wise

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:39 AM

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I wouldn't call wildfire fun. It feels like a piece of a missing mechanic

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:40 AM

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i'm not even really sure what the identity of this subclass is supposed to be

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:40 AM

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I'm gonna just imagine a Psyker Class that's all about Soulblazes.

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Psyker Pyromaniac.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:40 AM

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well, more interesting than ascendant blaze or wrack & ruin, which are just basic application methods

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Their special skill would be similar to the Pyromancer Sienna

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Aka, A FRAKING FIREBALL

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Or just an aura of fire.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:42 AM

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maybe they can rework the subclasses when we get more force weapons

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Just add Sienna with a Glock

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:42 AM

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I wouldn't mind fire walk.

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Zoom zoom

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:42 AM

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Okay, imagine each target affected by soulblaze was regenerating tiny amounts of toughness. For each damage tick you'd get tiny bits of toughness back. Or as I said get damage. This way you'd want to have soulblaze spreading, but not strictly killing instantly. Because then you could chain wildfire and keep spreading it using melee, while keeping up the buffs

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To me sounds more fun than whatever the hell we got

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:44 AM

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If folks want it unique, just give the Psyker an aura that constantly produced Soulblaze, affecting mainly melee enemies.

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So all you have to do is block while Soulblaze eats them up

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:44 AM

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If it's a tick of soulblaze like we get from wildfire with no interactions then still kinda pointless

maiden knoll Jul 4, 2023, 11:47 AM

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harsh cobalt Right now it feels like a dead end mechanic, outside of purgatus staff

Is wildfire worth it with purgatus staff?

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:47 AM

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How about Staggering them per tick?

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Or Soulblaze damage increasing with each tick while the Aura is active?

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:48 AM

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No, wildfire is just not worth it as it stands right now. I don't even know if it still interacts with slaughterer. The only saving grace for it was a mechanic that doesn't seem intended even

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And that other feat that applies soulblaze to enemies around the elite you brain burst is a total joke too

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:50 AM

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wrack & ruin is fine in my eyes as an infinite cleave option if not running purg/trauma

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the only problem with the feat is that trauma/purg exist

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:51 AM

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I now have a joke Psyker Class

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:51 AM

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I don't see it being good even if you use other staves tbh

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:51 AM

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The "Instability"

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Aka, your Blitz is literally exploding yourself.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:51 AM

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pretty good if a pack of mauler/rager spawns

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:51 AM

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Corrupts yourself to use it.

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:52 AM

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But honestly on psyker you can run a wack build and still be very useful. Core kit is just good

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:52 AM

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it's one of those things that suck in general but will boost winrates (if you don't have any other source of infinite cleave)

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:52 AM

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Not sure how, but sure

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:52 AM

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infinite cleave

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being able to tick damage on all enemies in an area

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:53 AM

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Which amounts to really not much damage to even worth mentioning

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:53 AM

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soulblaze is fine once you've got some stacks

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since it scales approximately exponentially for the first few stacks

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i think it's a sigmoid function? don't quote me on that

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:54 AM

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Wait til you get 4 warp charges. Press f if you have ascendant blaze and melee horde. The stuff at the back of the horde will all burn to death.

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*trash mobs

harsh cobalt Jul 4, 2023, 11:55 AM

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If it's a few crushers in a horde by the time you bb both of them you would've applied the puny soulblaze to maybe 10 poxwalkers. Lucky if it randomly picks the same ones and it kills it. Pretty sure it has a target hard cap

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:55 AM

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like i said, wrack & ruin is useless in the general case, but it'll be pretty good for dealing with maulers/ragers

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:56 AM

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Wildfire ascendant blaze trauma my beloved.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:56 AM

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no one cares about killing poxwalkers when you can already do that with your weapons

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:56 AM

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And illisi :3

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:56 AM

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god bless fatshark's balancing team for giving us the illisi

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:57 AM

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Give illisi to zealot preacher AngryFroge

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I want to be more op at melee.

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:58 AM

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no

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this is fatshark's plan to make zealot mains migrate to psyker

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and i agree with them

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i foresee a future of all psykers

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:58 AM

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Rising conviction 5 stacks =25% damage.
Martyr 3 stacks = 18% damage.
Low hp = 30% extra attack speed.

ornate hamlet Jul 4, 2023, 11:58 AM

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spice veldt i foresee a future of all psykers

Like canon

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:58 AM

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Imagine illisi with those + deflector slaughterer.

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 11:59 AM

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rising conviction maxes out at 20% and 3 marty stacks is 24%

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:59 AM

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Okay I haven't played zealot

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 11:59 AM

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good

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 11:59 AM

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Psyker main now btw zealot preacher is for chumps

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 12:00 PM

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HELL YEAH BROTHER

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 12:17 PM

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spice veldt infinite cleave

Infinite cleave? You need Manstopper KEKW_ogryn

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 12:19 PM

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This is what happens when you take two grims and no corruption resistance.

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 12:41 PM

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fluid knot Infinite cleave? You need Manstopper <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>

Man-stopper addict

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 12:43 PM

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meager plinth Man-stopper addict

But Yaga.. INFINITE CLEAVE

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And blood fountains

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Makes it a soup-gun like Kickback

obtuse moth Jul 4, 2023, 1:07 PM

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i cri, someone runs off during hishock5 disablers spawn when we're down a person already. after im the only one left and get overwhelmed
i get this bigbrain reply

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 1:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/talos-talosian-star-trem-star-trek-big-head-gif-12496470

Tenor

shadow quartz Jul 4, 2023, 1:23 PM

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obtuse moth i cri, someone runs off during hishock5 disablers spawn when we're down a person...

It seems that the guy mixed up the game with RoN or Ground Branch.. Guarded

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 1:29 PM

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fluid knot But Yaga.. INFINITE CLEAVE

ADDICT

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 1:34 PM

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meager plinth ADDICT

Heretic.

maiden knoll Jul 4, 2023, 1:42 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/14qfjsa/to_psykers_which_force_sword_do_you_prefer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

r/DarkTide - To psykers: which force sword do you prefer?

0 votes and 0 comments so far on Reddit

obtuse moth Jul 4, 2023, 1:54 PM

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link without context?

cyan notch Jul 4, 2023, 1:54 PM

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its a poll

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Poll without context!

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 1:55 PM

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fluid knot Heretic.

Shut up you love me

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 2:35 PM

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i see its swung from illi to diemos

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funny how that works once people figure out you can oneshot everything

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WHOOOOO WE HAVE HORDES AGAIN

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THANKS FOR NOT TAKING 3 WEEKS TO FIX THAT LIKE THE BROKEN LOBBIES FATSHARK I LOVE YOU

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 2:47 PM

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paid voters

inland sand Jul 4, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Deimos has always been the true true

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 2:50 PM

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spice veldt paid voters

psy op

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Psycho

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:22 PM

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steel flame WHOOOOO WE HAVE HORDES AGAIN

The horde change is that noticeable??

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:25 PM

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maiden knoll https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/14qfjsa/to_psykers_which_force_sword_...

Put my vote in for illisi!

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:28 PM

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How many voted for obscurus?

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KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 3:29 PM

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ILLISI IS AHEAD WOOOO

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 3:29 PM

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Y'all sleepin on knife

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:29 PM

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Y'all sleeping on chainsword

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nerd

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:30 PM

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meager plinth How many voted for obscurus?

What is that good for? I've never used.

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 3:30 PM

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plucky flax What is that good for? I've never used.

Its good for looking like you dont know what you want to do in a mission

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 3:30 PM

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obscurus is decent but unfortunately the other force swords exist

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 3:31 PM

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meager plinth Y'all sleeping on chainsword

Also yes.

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:31 PM

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pepesurrender

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Does it have stronger specials than deimos?

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Chainsword? No

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:32 PM

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Obscuri whatthefuck_heresy

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 3:32 PM

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No, that has half a single target moveset and half a horde clear moveset, its more confused than your average twitter enjoyer

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:33 PM

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Tbh idk if it's better than anything else, even the special is out damaged by obscurus which can piece carapace

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 3:33 PM

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yeah i don't like the descriptor of it as the middle ground

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the obscurus is just a worse deimos

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:33 PM

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I mean obscures specials vs deimos specials

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Which one does more damage?

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 3:33 PM

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they've got the exact same stats

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their normals are the only thing that differ

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:34 PM

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Rip

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 3:34 PM

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rip in pepperoni

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:34 PM

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plucky flax What is that good for? I've never used.

It has a few niche use that I like and it can perform pretty well in damnation

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And ER

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:35 PM

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I don't have plasteels to make obscuris

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SadgeCry

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 3:35 PM

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Sitgryn

plucky flax Jul 4, 2023, 3:36 PM

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Still chasing a high 70s blaze trauma

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Too many blessings mane

upbeat schooner Jul 4, 2023, 4:31 PM

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new femboy stats available in #general-chat message

spice veldt Jul 4, 2023, 4:32 PM

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how the fuck does ogryn chat have more mentions of femboys than psyker chat

upbeat schooner Jul 4, 2023, 4:33 PM

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spice veldt how the fuck does ogryn chat have more mentions of femboys than psyker chat

I know, it's very surprising!

lunar hollow Jul 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

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spice veldt how the fuck does ogryn chat have more mentions of femboys than psyker chat

gotta work on ur stalking game bb

green igloo Jul 4, 2023, 4:52 PM

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upbeat schooner I know, it's very surprising!

recent ones are you 😏
and so many are others going 'what is going on in Vet chat lmao'

upbeat schooner Jul 4, 2023, 4:53 PM

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green igloo recent ones are you 😏 and so many are others going 'what is going on in Vet ch...

yes I have said femboy a lot

grizzled jasper Jul 4, 2023, 4:56 PM

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Fembois

fluid knot Jul 4, 2023, 5:02 PM

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spice veldt how the fuck does ogryn chat have more mentions of femboys than psyker chat

Usually because we're alarmed at the amount its mentioned in the other two KEKW_ogryn

west galleon Jul 4, 2023, 5:40 PM

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I thought psykers are more into muscle mommys

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Yknow, brawns to go for all that brains

flint pawn Jul 4, 2023, 5:47 PM

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west galleon Yknow, brawns to go for all that brains

May I suggest to you: Ogryns

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"Sweet brute"

pine nova Jul 4, 2023, 5:53 PM

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owo hello pretty

lost trellis Jul 4, 2023, 7:19 PM

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Can you get T4 Toughness Regen Speed on curios or is it capped at T3? I've done 3,000 re rolls and it hasn't come up yet

pine relic Jul 4, 2023, 7:55 PM

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lilac tapir Jul 4, 2023, 7:59 PM

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anyone else getting this error since the hotfix went live?

static agate Jul 4, 2023, 8:00 PM

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lost trellis Can you get T4 Toughness Regen Speed on curios or is it capped at T3? I've done ...

Yes, I got lvl 4 on all mine

lilac tapir Jul 4, 2023, 8:02 PM

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lost trellis Can you get T4 Toughness Regen Speed on curios or is it capped at T3? I've done ...

make sure your curio level is high enough, if it's not a curio you acquired at character level 30 but earlier then it might not be able to roll Tier 4

upper galleon Jul 4, 2023, 8:08 PM

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pine relic

i wish the ammo and collat was switched

lilac tapir Jul 4, 2023, 8:21 PM

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From what I understand both Stopping Power and Collateral affect your dmg, so for ideal Shredder both should be as close to 80% as possible (but I might be wrong).

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:39 PM

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lilac tapir From what I understand both Stopping Power and Collateral affect your dmg, so fo...

You can dump mobility but you want everything else above 70

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:40 PM

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lost trellis Can you get T4 Toughness Regen Speed on curios or is it capped at T3? I've done ...

You can get 30% toughness Regen speed at t4

lost trellis Jul 4, 2023, 8:42 PM

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lost trellis Can you get T4 Toughness Regen Speed on curios or is it capped at T3? I've done ...

Got it after 5,136 rolls. Thank god for mods

upper galleon Jul 4, 2023, 8:43 PM

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no collateral increases the knockback

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which actually lowers your damage since the enemies will fall over and stumble around, causing you to miss shots

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and ammo is lowkey important on a gun that eats ammo up

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 8:44 PM

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dmg, stopping and ammo should be 80 if possible

upper galleon Jul 4, 2023, 8:44 PM

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but now i'm thinking with pinning fire in mind, not just twin stubber

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i'd say you want some collateral to consistently keep up pinning fire against harder to stagger mobs but all in all, it's your dump stat

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:49 PM

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its really not

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you need that for specials too, mobs are gonna die before you knock em down anyway, what you need the collateral for is specials and elites

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 8:50 PM

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i think so too lol. it's not great against gunners in cover and snipers

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but you need the collat

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helps a ton against shooters

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which i feel like are the most annoying enemies

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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youll need collateral to stop dogs, stagger bombers, stagger maulers and ragers out of attacks

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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the suppression mechanic at least

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tbh you need all the stats LOL

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mobility is also useful

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:51 PM

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not really

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the shredder ive been using for ages with pinning and blaze only has 40% mobility, and mobility is never an issue with it

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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As long as you keep a decent number of dodges

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Depending on the weapon

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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shredder also comes out really fast on the swap, so if you really have to you can lean on your melee for dodges before whipping the shredder back out

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 8:53 PM

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do you have 3 dodge limit

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on yours

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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yea

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with 40%

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 8:54 PM

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yeah nty

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LOL

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i think mobility is the biggest dumpstat

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but i wouldn't use one with 3 dodges

lilac tapir Jul 4, 2023, 8:55 PM

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think you need 50% for 4 dodges, mine has 55% and it has 4

steel flame Jul 4, 2023, 8:56 PM

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let me check to be sure

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sorry its actually 56% mobilty Shredder with 4 dodges

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i was thinking of my old one

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its this one

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it could be a tiny bit better but its pretty close to perfect

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 9:01 PM

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thumbsup_ogryn

harsh urchin Jul 4, 2023, 9:04 PM

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my shredder is on my vet

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sadly

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the only good weapon i have on my psyker is my illisi

fathom adder Jul 4, 2023, 9:42 PM

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harsh urchin the only good weapon i have on my psyker is my illisi

Thankfully a good Illisi is all you need. Pick up even a bad Surge Staff and treat it as a CC tool rather than a weapon

lilac tapir Jul 4, 2023, 9:43 PM

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mine is this. would be ideal if Unyielding was Maniac but I'm having fun deleting those Reapers from time to time and extra dmg on bosses is nice as well (especially if there are other mobs around that you can stagger to trigger max PF stacks)

cosmic sigil Jul 4, 2023, 10:03 PM

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steel flame youll need collateral to stop dogs, stagger bombers, stagger maulers and ragers ...

I play with 45 and 80ish collat... And that doesn't have any influence whatsoever on my stacks. What I like about having a bot too high collat is that the target stays in place. Everything dies fast...

dawn crypt Jul 4, 2023, 10:46 PM

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Backend Error: Error signing in? Anyone getting this right now?

meager plinth Jul 4, 2023, 10:46 PM

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yep, keep spamming till you get in

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took me 5 mins

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beautiful

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shame on the t3 shred, wished to have t4

restive slate Jul 4, 2023, 11:55 PM

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What are perks you normally look for in chainsword?

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Flak maniac no?

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:05 AM

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infested and whatever you prefer

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you need infested to perform proper against hordes

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maniac is pretty nice against muties

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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Hmmm never considered infested

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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infested does a LOT for the weapon

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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Okie dokes imma try it

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:06 AM

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crits are pretty nice on it too

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thats why I got shred

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my loadout is coming along pretty well

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:07 AM

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I've been running infested on mine and it does help a lot. Just keeping poxwalker hordes at bay is all you need. You kill thicker enemies with your ranged weapon of choice

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And revved up attack is alright against crushers, if you just cc them with nades

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:08 AM

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meager plinth my loadout is coming along pretty well

Revolver Psyker so fun

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:08 AM

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I do not recommend using it against crushers

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it is VERY risky

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:08 AM

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And for a second I thought I'm in vet chat lol

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:08 AM

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I have more fun as Gun Psyker now

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:09 AM

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meager plinth it is VERY risky

That's why I said make room with nades, put a crusher on its ass. I thought it's vet chat

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:09 AM

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Yea chainsword seems more suited to smaller targets

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:09 AM

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But yes, it does leave you exposed

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:09 AM

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and tbh im still pretty effective with my gun psyker

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:10 AM

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I like how u extol the chainsword

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And then post a clip where you dont use it at all 🤣

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:11 AM

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well clips where I use it is usually just me mauling a horde

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which isnt impressive on its own

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I got a clip tho, gimme 1 sec

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:12 AM

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Chainswords heavies is something that you need to get used to for sure. The diagonal trajectory often misses heads where you feel you should've hit

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:12 AM

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How are you liking the revolver

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:12 AM

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^

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volver is not only really fun, but also really useful

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:13 AM

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Kinetic barrage seems very nifty though

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:14 AM

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I use my entire kit as much as I can all the time

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:14 AM

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I feel like Acendant Blaze help Revolver build a lot

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Sad there's no way to boost AB like Pinning Fire of Autopistol

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:14 AM

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it helps soften crowds but tbh its not that useful I realized

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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Oh?

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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I can use it alongside wrack n ruin tho

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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How do you real with hordes then?

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:15 AM

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chainsword

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when savage sweet kicks in, it mauls pretty well

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:16 AM

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Savage Sweet, nic

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Melee da hordes

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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I'm not sure I trust myself as a Psyker to deal with melee but that's worth considering

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Can confirm, I got a juicer of a chainsword on my vet and it lets me free up the nade talents for the other options

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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do you have a pic of your chainsword shulby?

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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I do not, and the game isn't letting me log in so 🤡

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

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backend error?

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Nah, I'm past that and now in perpetual loading screen

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Psyker has no melee talents so you either just gotta cheese it with op melee

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Or play well lol

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Restarted steam and everything

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Force swords and caxe make it ez

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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yea but whats the fun in that

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Currently using Caxe with Revolvet

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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Yeah, melee for Psyker is feeling good. Feeling happy with the options. Even if I do just spam Illisi

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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How's the recon lasgun post buff

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Is it still dogshit

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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harsh urchin Psyker has no melee talents so you either just gotta cheese it with op melee

Warp unleashed / kinetic shield or deflection.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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the brown one is good I think but I havent gotten one

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 AM

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That's what you want in melee

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:20 AM

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Oh? I'm using the blue recon

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:20 AM

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General consensus is that it's a nice buff for Recon but there are still things that are better at being a gun

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:21 AM

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Imagine if psyker had access to brauto

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Or shotgun

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:22 AM

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They had access to shotgun during the cb

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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The DoT Psyker, kantrael shotgun, bleed melee, and ascendant blaze

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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You can do stuff with a vraks3 no respite tbh

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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I never got to use it, heard it was strong

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Knife is actually really nice lol

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If they added a staff that was good at everything

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Like beam

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I'd run knife beam for the mobility

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:24 AM

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Sienna momment

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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I dunno, I am spoiled with the unlimited dodges on the force swords. Just saved me from a wipe earlier today since I was able to back dodge and quell for free

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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You can still monkey walk with a Deimos or use a gun with stripped down 4 🤔

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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yeah but with a knife you dont even need to dodge lol

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you just turn around and sprint away

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and nothing can catch you

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cuz you're sanic

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Psyanic*

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Psyonik

fathom adder Jul 5, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Psyker the Hedgehog

prisma peak Jul 5, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Valid, I'm just lazy and hate the weapon swapping sometimes.

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 12:28 AM

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I also think coruscation staff is nutty

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that would be a sick staff in this gaem

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 12:40 AM

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Beam staff

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:03 AM

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harsh cobalt Beam staff

We already have this in game

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It's called the Accatran Recon Lasgun series

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 1:04 AM

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Another day another gun psyker argument. I don't want to start this again lol

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I'll just say...nah, gimme beam staff

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:05 AM

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Chill sibling I was just making a funny

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:07 AM

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mg12 and autopistol psykers are unironically based

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autopistol less so but it's still okay

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mg12 is mainly carried by the fact that you're using the goddang mg12, it slaps so hard

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:08 AM

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I've been having a lot of fun deviating into MG4 and Recons lately

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:09 AM

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can you stack enough damage boosts onto psyker to get one shot bodyshit breakpoints on the mg12

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does 6 warp charges + high perils get there?

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:10 AM

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I believe Ryken has a table in his lasgun video somewhere

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But I'm mostly using the alt lasguns as a supplement to my main build around Wrack

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:12 AM

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doesn't look like scab shooters can ever be OHK

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Wrack for elites, illisi for hordes and the lasguns to make quick work of shooter lines

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 1:16 AM

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runic hornet doesn't look like scab shooters can ever be OHK

With volley fire they can...oh wrong class KEKW_ogryn

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But even then probably depends? How much health they got

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:19 AM

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i feel like 6 warp charges + high perils should be enough

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(+flak perk)

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 1:20 AM

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Are they like 500 health

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Thicker then they look

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:21 AM

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how much of a buff is volleyfire again

harsh cobalt Jul 5, 2023, 1:21 AM

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Oh, also with XII it's got innate sniper hidden perk I think. It'll deal more DMG at a distance

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Gotta consider range

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 1:22 AM

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because volleyfire gives you OHKs and i thought it was "only" 50%

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so 6 warpcharges and high perils should be comparable?

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:28 AM

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All infantry lasguns have the sniper bonus, and I believe one recon variant has it too

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 1:29 AM

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you mean reversed falloff?

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:30 AM

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Ye

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 1:31 AM

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runic hornet mg12 is mainly carried by the fact that you're using the goddang mg12, it slaps ...

The MG12 is indeed awesomeness, at least if you win at Hadron's slot machine.

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It's perhaps got fewer underwhelming blessings than some, but things like extra Critical Weakspot damage...?

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This is my psyker's current MG12:

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Which isn't perfect, but given how painful fighting the RNG is, I'm not expecting to find better unless they heavily change crafting or increase the caps.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 1:39 AM

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its perfect for damnation

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 1:42 AM

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Oh, it's definitely very good, but it has technically got the potential to be better, if it was a full 380 and had everything at Tier 4.

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But it's got most stats at near maximum, and ammo seems to be a very good dump stat for the MG12. (Still gets 32 shots per reload, and its ammo reserve goes quite a long way).

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 1:45 AM

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lasguns are really good for ammo efficiency, too

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:46 AM

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Psyker as a whole is really good for ammo efficiency

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Most of the ammo sinks can be BB'd

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 1:47 AM

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Yes, it was a little odd in my last game where someone was emptying a laspistol into a Crusher while I was charging up a brainburst.

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 1:48 AM

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does the fire blessing on lasguns work with peril/warp stacks?

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:48 AM

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Soulblaze scales off those so I can't see why burn doesn't

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 1:48 AM

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yep, warp unleashed and warp charges affect all outgoing damage

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 1:49 AM

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does the crit meme fire build work for recons ? lol

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 1:49 AM

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not really

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the cap on the burn stacks is too low for it to be worth it

hoary badge Jul 5, 2023, 1:50 AM

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It gives a slight bump to monstrosity damage output at most

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Since two out of the 3 recons is resisted by unyielding

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But anything else the base shots already melt well enough

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Aside from maniacs

pine relic Jul 5, 2023, 1:57 AM

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Can anybody log into the game

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 1:57 AM

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it's all dumb right now

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the backend error thing

pine relic Jul 5, 2023, 1:58 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/anger-issues-issues-tyler-screaming-disappear-meme-gif-23950735

Tenor

cold geode Jul 5, 2023, 2:02 AM

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whats annoying me is that i got DC'd and now i cant get back in, and on top of that the error message keeps popping up, then the text box its in fucks up and i can't click it so it can retry with out having to reboot the game, so now if i want to get in i have to restart the game over and over again

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its awesome

pine relic Jul 5, 2023, 2:04 AM

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It's independence day, i guess I'm gonna go out the enjoy the firework

cold geode Jul 5, 2023, 2:05 AM

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well its either tgrepang²

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or DRG

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or maybe starship troopers

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 2:12 AM

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hoary badge All infantry lasguns have the sniper bonus, and I believe one recon variant has ...

yeah the 6d

brave flame Jul 5, 2023, 3:56 AM

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i'd thought that more people would chat here lol

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 3:57 AM

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This is the least active of all 4 class chats

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Shame, I miss my siblings

shadow wigeon Jul 5, 2023, 4:05 AM

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brave flame i'd thought that more people would chat here lol

Doesn't help the game is down

pine relic Jul 5, 2023, 4:11 AM

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meager plinth Shame, I miss my siblings

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

Tenor

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Me too

cyan portal Jul 5, 2023, 4:19 AM

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meager plinth This is the least active of all 4 class chats

Psyker is most fun to play, thus less incentive to lurk in forums.

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 4:37 AM

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Playing psyker put me in the mood to roll one up when my RPG group swapped over to Dark Heresy 2nd edition recently. Alas, though, when I actually looked into it, it'd've taken ages to level one up to the kind of power level that would actually have been fun.

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I eventually ended up playing a ratling instead.

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 4:39 AM

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I played a gun psyker / biomancer in DH 1st ed

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 4:53 AM

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brave flame i'd thought that more people would chat here lol

SadgeCry

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 4:54 AM

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cosmic sigil I played a gun psyker / biomancer in DH 1st ed

I've got an interesting telepath/pyrokinetic psyker for the old "Inquisitor" tabletop game. Combines the two disciplines into a shock and awe style.

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 4:54 AM

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I am more active in this chat than zealot these days. Zealot chat became too weird..

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 4:56 AM

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Don't worry, in here we just scream about people thinking too loudly.

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 4:57 AM

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plucky flax I am more active in this chat than zealot these days. Zealot chat became too wei...

how so?

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The Josho and Archo Show is on both chats

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 4:58 AM

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Too much femboy chatters and unrelated stuff.

grizzled jasper Jul 5, 2023, 4:58 AM

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cold geode

https://tenor.com/view/sus-among-us-gif-24132003

Tenor

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 4:58 AM

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oh true

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 4:58 AM

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(Suffice to say that most of the psyker voices are not the most sane people in the galaxy...)

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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plucky flax Too much femboy chatters and unrelated stuff.

vet chat was like that in January-February

cold geode Jul 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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was something with the logmein addon that was causing that error

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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nope

cold geode Jul 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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once i disabled that i could just try over and over again to get in, but the servers are still fucked

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 4:59 AM

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Yeah I was inactive in vet chat then because of that. It's okay I'm not judging for your preference but it's like bruh no one cares stop talking about it all the time.

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Just me though

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:00 AM

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I do admit coming here more often

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then someone is shitting on the gun psyker and i'm like ><

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:01 AM

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Well gunpsyker bad 👎

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Play psyker to not steal ammo fren

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:01 AM

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gunzealot bad too

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:01 AM

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Tru. I melee only

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I'm waiting for veteran squad leader. Melee vet feelsgoodman

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:03 AM

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hope the stam will be fixed

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:03 AM

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i hope they get the Commisar's ability to kill a team mate to remove suppression

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:03 AM

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Stam regen should be different from sharpshooter

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Otherwise it's rip

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:04 AM

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melee with the psyker is my favorite melee

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i dodge dance and push / deflect

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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Yeah illisi my fav

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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same

safe pendant Jul 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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Love Illisi

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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yesterday i did an entire room of shooters and gunners, felt awesome

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:05 AM

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are the servers still fried?

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 5:06 AM

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would have died ten times with the vet

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:06 AM

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I am illisi blaze trauma main

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It's so fun

safe pendant Jul 5, 2023, 5:06 AM

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I wasn't sure what to pair with mine. I went with Surge since I had no good surge staff

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:06 AM

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I'd play surge if I play with people I know whom are decent.

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Become a stun bitch FeelsStrongMan

safe pendant Jul 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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I rolled this today

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:07 AM

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what's the perks/blessings for blaze trauma?

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:08 AM

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Crit chance + damage perk of your choice. Flak is best generally. Blessings warp nexus and blazing spirit

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:08 AM

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do you charge all the way?

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 5:08 AM

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plucky flax Become a stun bitch <:FeelsStrongMan:880925680416743505>

You are a stunning bitch, everyone stops in their tracks when you're around

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 5:09 AM

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burnt maple do you charge all the way?

I do yeah.

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Bigger blast radius, more burning stuff

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But I melee way more

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https://youtu.be/qZIjlLLAkq8

YouTube

Swaggarino Blackarino

blaze trauma

▶ Play video

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Keep the burn going with 5 stacks slaughterer

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:10 AM

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do you take ascendant blaze or wildfire?

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blazing spirit on the sword, too?

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 5:12 AM

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Slaughterer and Peril/deflector is common for Illisi

steel flame Jul 5, 2023, 5:14 AM

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plucky flax Bigger blast radius, more burning stuff

The fire procs based on the stagger radius which is the same no matter the charge, So fast charge spam is more optimal for getting fire going than full charges on blaze trauma

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Best way to do that is quell cancel spamming min charge to get 6 sb going before going in with the FS with slaughterer. Although personally I do not use slaughter illi with my fire trauma build. I prefer laceration mercy kill combat knife

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 5:38 AM

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yeah but don't you need to macro that

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someone here uses a macro that makes it like a machine gun

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oh no that was with the voidstrike

restive slate Jul 5, 2023, 5:40 AM

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I can proudly say I replaced my voidstrike build with Revolver build haha

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 6:00 AM

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burnt maple do you take ascendant blaze or wildfire?

I took both wildfire and ascendant blaze. Slaughterer deflector on sword.

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 6:00 AM

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steel flame The fire procs based on the stagger radius which is the same no matter the charg...

Okie noted. Fast charge does no damage though I'd rather full charge for the body parts flying.

steel flame Jul 5, 2023, 6:02 AM

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burnt maple yeah but don't you need to macro that

I quell cancel fire trauma as fast as it can go without a macro. Those posts with the macro were testing out quell canceling the m1

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It's actually pretty easy to do once you practice it a bit

burnt maple Jul 5, 2023, 6:05 AM

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i would try it out, if the servers weren't crapped out

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 6:10 AM

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It's really fun. Its like illisi surge but you do more damage.

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If your team has lots of fast damage already though then surge probably better.

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I run flayer and barrage when I use surge also. So if my team seems to lack elites/specials sniping I'll go with surge.

near wyvern Jul 5, 2023, 6:40 AM

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@burnt maple
https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY

YouTube

Pygex

Psyker Quick Guides - 6. Psyker Tech

Steam Guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

0:00 Intro & List of Techs
0:12 1.1 Dodging
0:38 1.2 Sprinting
1:03 1.3 Third Eye
1:13 1.4 POW Abuse
1:34 2.1 Sliding
2:08 2.2 Quell & Channel movement
2:35 3.1 Quell Cancel
3:07 3.2 Slide Quell and 3.3 Slide Casting

▶ Play video

west smelt Jul 5, 2023, 6:59 AM

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I had a dream of playing Psyker and brain bursting then I woke up

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Presumably due to my psyker main friend

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 7:03 AM

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Don't succumb to the warp bro.

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 7:43 AM

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near wyvern <@125777370568327168> https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY

wow, your accent? british?

near wyvern Jul 5, 2023, 8:05 AM

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cosmic sigil wow, your accent? british?

Finnish

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Some linguistical mistakes give it a away but a couple years of academic studies with English as the studying language and collaborating internationally for work does the trick I guess

cosmic sigil Jul 5, 2023, 8:07 AM

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yeah i wasn't completely sure

lilac tapir Jul 5, 2023, 9:20 AM

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Can someone share the stat priority, Perks & Blessings for a Revolver? I'd like to try it out after the recent buff but never used one before (other than while levelling ages ago). Thanks.

golden tartan Jul 5, 2023, 9:29 AM

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lilac tapir Can someone share the stat priority, Perks & Blessings for a Revolver? I'd like ...

Damage, Penetration, Reload Speed, Crit bonus in that order

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Maniacs and Reload speed for perks

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Blessings i personally like trickshooter and roulette but that has individual preference

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 10:06 AM

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lilac tapir Can someone share the stat priority, Perks & Blessings for a Revolver? I'd like ...

@meager plinth help my man out

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 10:08 AM

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Mobility is the main dump stat but you can afford having a bit lower reload tho not too much

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The other 3 are important for damage but idk the exact specifics for which % is acceptable for breakpoints

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For perks flak/maniac is ideal mainly for ragers

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Tho crit% and unarmored are also pretty useful overall

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For blessings you mostly want more crit rate since that’s where your damage peaks

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I personally prefer crucian roulette because it’s a guaranteed boost while surgical and point blank are conditional

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I gtg rn so I can’t write more in details but if you have questions about anything just @ me

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rat_thumbs_up

lilac tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:14 AM

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Thanks all

lilac tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:15 AM

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meager plinth I gtg rn so I can’t write more in details but if you have questions about anythi...

Sustained Fire not good at all? There is Tier 4 at Melk Store right now that I can grab.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 10:16 AM

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It’s a pretty nice boost against bigger targets but for anything lower than a mauler it will be wasted since the second shot will kill anyway

lilac tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:16 AM

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Alright

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 10:17 AM

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So it can help a bit against ogryns and maulers

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If you know that you aren’t gonna be in melee often to benefit from point blank or that you don’t need to hold your shots for surgical, it’s a really good option

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Tho I would recommend against shooting Ogryns and maulers when you can since your ammo pool isn't too high, brain burst em when you can and use the volver to stagger or finish them off

lilac tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:28 AM

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well as a Psyker running with Illisi and with random groups I most def will be in melee often 🙂 so I guess I'm just gonna go with Roulette and Point Blank or Trickshooter I guess

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and yea def not gonna try shooting Ogryns with it

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 10:31 AM

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It has its use to shoot em, but overall it's better to keep your revolver full while you brain burst them

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Incase something attacks you won't be caught unready

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Trickshooter is overall better with vet

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They got more ammo to spare dumping in a weak spot of a boss

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You can already 1shot most units in the game so this one encourages you to blast away on bigger ones

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Bb ogryn then finish it off with revolver for swag

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 11:51 AM

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golden tartan Blessings i personally like trickshooter and roulette but that has individual pr...

😄

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 11:51 AM

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thumbsup_ogryn

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Good pew pew

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 11:52 AM

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My thanks kindred KEKW_ogryn Yaga in-game lucky charm

ember hornet Jul 5, 2023, 12:01 PM

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trickshooter doesn't really work unless you full on magdump, it has an insanely low reset time

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like, not possible to chain headshots on multiple targets

golden tartan Jul 5, 2023, 12:13 PM

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fluid knot 😄

Solid gun

golden tartan Jul 5, 2023, 12:13 PM

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ember hornet trickshooter doesn't really work unless you full on magdump, it has an insanely ...

Its High Noon

ember hornet Jul 5, 2023, 12:14 PM

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also why is it 5%

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like

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bruh

golden tartan Jul 5, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Its power on a headshot

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I'll take it

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Tbf i found revolver the easiest gun to rapid chain headshots with

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Due to its innate head magnetism

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 12:16 PM

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Its also great how it doesnt just headshot something, it straight up removes their noggin

ember hornet Jul 5, 2023, 12:19 PM

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I don't even think trickshooter works unless you instantaneously chain a headshot

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most consider it to be non functional

wheat quartz Jul 5, 2023, 12:28 PM

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siblings is the Emperor memeing on me or is this actually useful

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 12:29 PM

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Got crazy good mobility, but its very much a single target melee choice

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Cleave is pretty shitty, but its good just by virtue of easy repositioning

wheat quartz Jul 5, 2023, 12:29 PM

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it's competing with Deimos, though

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and I guess the knife

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 12:31 PM

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Its got better mobility than the Deimos, not by much, but you can use one of the attacks to add distance to your forward slides, which is niche, but lets you cover massive amounts of ground, its pretty similar to knife in that respect, but it kills stuff more safely without requiring you to be licking your target

grizzled iris Jul 5, 2023, 12:54 PM

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wheat quartz siblings is the Emperor memeing on me or is this actually useful

Well, it has the best blessing (Uncanny Strike) just need to get rid off Rampage and get Shred 4 and its okay

weak crystal Jul 5, 2023, 12:57 PM

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which psyker voice talks to subtitles?

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 1:05 PM

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weak crystal which psyker voice talks to subtitles?

Male loner (German accent)

obtuse moth Jul 5, 2023, 2:20 PM

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psychic subtitles? cool

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 2:26 PM

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spot the infernus staff

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sometimes you get a party that just feels textbook
psyker does the infernus+wildfire heavy lifting on hordes
two vets both with mg12s deleting every single enemy rifleman and specials
And then a pocket ogyrn to keep everyone's noses clean

fathom adder Jul 5, 2023, 2:27 PM

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And Zealot stays home 🤣

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 2:27 PM

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RIP zealot

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he's a fairly good all rounder with an mg12 or headhunter auto tbh

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or even a bolter

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he can't facetrade with enemy rifles like vets can though

fathom adder Jul 5, 2023, 2:28 PM

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Thunder Hammer to delete Monstrosities seems to be their best niche atm

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 2:28 PM

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yeah but the thing is you never get anything like, say

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Vermintide twitch mode where "racing bosses" is actually a priority

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like in vermintide twitch mode "ability to delete bosses" is a real niche because if you don't kill them fast enough twitch mode might spawn a second while you're fighting the first and that's just crazy

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but without anything similar to that, the proper repsonse to a boss isjust to pull back to avoid pulling any extra patrols and then assassinate the boss by its lonesome which is usually trivial

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almost always the correct response to a boss that's around other enemies is to focus purely on kiting the boss while killing all other trash

fathom adder Jul 5, 2023, 2:30 PM

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It's just nice to be able to remove bosses before it spawns a bunch of shit alongside. Also if you pull a Daemonhost it's basically impossible to DPS it fast enough without a Thrusthammer

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 2:30 PM

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yeah thrusthammer mercs pulled DHs

fathom adder Jul 5, 2023, 2:30 PM

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Unless a permablock Psyker or Shield Ogryn happened to be the one that pulled it

runic hornet Jul 5, 2023, 2:31 PM

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clearly what we need a true minibosses that are near immune to stagger, like tougher than crushers even

bold flint Jul 5, 2023, 2:34 PM

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wodje think

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 2:38 PM

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runic hornet he can't facetrade with enemy rifles like vets can though

Vets can only do that because a couple of their skills are significantly overtuned vs what they should be

old oyster Jul 5, 2023, 2:38 PM

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bold flint wodje think

gib me that sword , dont care about blessings

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 2:38 PM

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Class needs a solid whack with the nerf bat

zealous sierra Jul 5, 2023, 3:06 PM

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What perk to swap

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 3:17 PM

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Could swap maniac to flak but both are good

crude dove Jul 5, 2023, 3:27 PM

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My definitely sane Psyker that was certainly not named after the man who invented the electric chair

patent steeple Jul 5, 2023, 3:29 PM

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man, i have not played darktide in a long time. i have had too much fun grinding for reds in vermintide...

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 3:35 PM

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crude dove My definitely sane Psyker that was certainly not named after the man who invente...

Sibling you should show us your radiant smile!

lyric burrow Jul 5, 2023, 4:13 PM

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fluid knot Class needs a solid whack with the nerf bat

Idk what you mean being invincible while also doing more damage and regenerating ammo and grenades for most of the mission is fair and balanced

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 4:15 PM

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It's okay as soon as they need to clutch they fold like paper

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thumbsup_ogryn

bold flint Jul 5, 2023, 4:43 PM

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its alright when they sprint they take 2x damage

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thumbsup_ogryn

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 4:44 PM

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Just use camo staregryn

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Become a passive hindrance to your team

bold flint Jul 5, 2023, 4:45 PM

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play ogryn

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become an active hinderance to your team

fluid knot Jul 5, 2023, 4:48 PM

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Ogryn is capable of most damage in the team by a fucking mile and can evaporate 99% of a mixed horde in a single Ripper mag KEKW_ogryn

stuck finch Jul 5, 2023, 4:58 PM

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Ogryn has biggest brain

rare arrow Jul 5, 2023, 5:37 PM

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Which staff do you all prefer right now?

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 5:41 PM

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beam staff psyker_chaos

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 5:45 PM

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MG12 staff.

shadow wigeon Jul 5, 2023, 5:53 PM

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rare arrow Which staff do you all prefer right now?

They're all good. My favourite is switching between different staffs for flavour, and depending on team comp.
Most cartoon fun is void, but trauma can be entertaining if you learn to play it well. Making meat chunks is satisfying.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Purgatus is a powerhouse in most things

leaden pier Jul 5, 2023, 6:26 PM

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what perk should i change the 6% into

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Flak damage% is your best bet

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thumbsup_ogryn

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Helps against ragers too

hidden crystal Jul 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Yeah, flak.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 6:28 PM

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Good Illisi right there

leaden pier Jul 5, 2023, 6:30 PM

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ye melks does give something good once in a while

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a long while

south zephyr Jul 5, 2023, 6:52 PM

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upgraded my Sizzle Stick

stuck finch Jul 5, 2023, 6:52 PM

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rare arrow Which staff do you all prefer right now?

Right now surge, loving the constant stun

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:07 PM

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So, I've been wondering how exactly toughness and dodging works.

I've heard somewhere that only zealot has i frames on his dodge, but I've also felt like I've dodged on other classes and felt like attacks should have hit me and I was i framing through them. Do all classes get dodge i frames or some or what's up with dodges?

How does toughness chip damage work. I know that at 100% toughness, you can tank the next hit with no chip damage, but how does chip damage work when not at 100% toughness? Does flat 100 toughness have a breakpoint, or is it only at 100% toughness, no matter the maximum number?

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:09 PM

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all classes have i-frames on dodges

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:09 PM

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that's what I felt like

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:10 PM

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zealot just gets 100% toughness DR on slides unlike the other classes, which is a different system than i-frames

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:10 PM

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ahhh, so their slides are the special thing

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:10 PM

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melee chip damage depends on the percentage of toughness remaining; if you have 90% toughness, then you'll take 10% melee damage to your hp

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:11 PM

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spice veldt zealot just gets 100% toughness DR on slides unlike the other classes, which is ...

in practice, does that mean that their slides have i frame-like use?

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:11 PM

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the exceptions are the crusher/mauler overheads, which have the spillover property such that if their damage exceeds your toughness, you will take the remaining hp damage even if you were at 100% toughness

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slides, dodges, and sprinting perpendicularly (with stamina) has i-frames against ranged enemies

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here's an example with dodging against ranged https://streamable.com/2lt083

Streamable

i-frames - Scab Gunner

▶ Play video

obtuse moth Jul 5, 2023, 7:12 PM

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steel flame The fire procs based on the stagger radius which is the same no matter the charg...

tested this, clearly not the case for me in the meat grinder, i can have enemies completely out of range of min charge stagger and soulblaze proc. however if i max charge i can still affect them

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:13 PM

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dodging doesn't give you i-frames per se against melee, and I don't know the exact technicalities, but it basically shortens the range that melee attacks will have. The degree to which the attack is "shortened" is on a per-attack basis. E.g., bulwark swings have basically no dodge catch https://streamable.com/e905ne

Streamable

i-frames - Bulwark

▶ Play video

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ragers' 4-hit combos notably will catch you in your dodges if you're anywhere near them

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:13 PM

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huh, good to know

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I always felt like it was consistent, yet inconsistent in certain cases sometimes, and I guess that's why

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:14 PM

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running melee attacks tend to have a long dodge catch

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:14 PM

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suuuuper long

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does the direction of the dodge affect the range thing? Or its just that you can dodge perpendicular to the direction and not outrange it, but make it miss?

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:16 PM

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dodging also breaks the tracking of (some) melee (and ranged) attacks so that can work

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:16 PM

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ah, but you have to dodge during the time the tracking is going to make you get it, right?

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:16 PM

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maybe

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i don't know the specifics, but anecdotally, it's usually pretty safe for me to dodge early

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:17 PM

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yeah, the main one I'm referring to is long wind up attacks, like running attacks

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you break the "lock on", but the attack is still incoming, so it retargets after the lock on break before the strike lands

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:18 PM

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dodging perpendicularly usually works out pretty well

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it doesn't seem to retarget

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:18 PM

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yeah

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oh

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hmmm

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I'll have to experiment more

shadow wigeon Jul 5, 2023, 7:18 PM

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dodging backwards has to be done very late

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perpendicular is quite forgiving

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:19 PM

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dodging backwards always gets me hit against a poxwalker's running attack

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i still remember a clutch moment when I didn't know how dodges worked and I got downed by a single poxwalker

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still makes me salty

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:19 PM

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haha, yeah

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I guess that dodging backwards requires utilizing the shortening of the attack range part of the dodge, while perpendicular is the target lock breaking part of the dodge

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so, it's much more forgiving to dodge the target lock early than to try to time the "fake" i frames late

shadow wigeon Jul 5, 2023, 7:21 PM

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backwards might also depend on dodge distance? No idea if there are edge cases where it's not possible to dodge.

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:21 PM

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you can also walk into the enemy as they're in the windup of their running attack to slow them down, and then dodge away since they'll be slower

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:21 PM

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oh, interesting

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:21 PM

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true, i'm thinking of a scenario where you're charging your BB and have short ass dodges

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since that's how i did my testing

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prob can just dodge backwards with most weapons

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 7:22 PM

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south zephyr upgraded my Sizzle Stick

That's op man

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 7:23 PM

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rare arrow Which staff do you all prefer right now?

Blaze trauma firebear

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:24 PM

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perpendicular dodges are so nice https://streamable.com/dfg8rx

Streamable

owned_by_SKILLS_and_LOGIC

▶ Play video

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:25 PM

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yeah, force sword infinite dodges go!

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:27 PM

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void mural in practice, does that mean that their slides have i frame-like use?

pretty much, provided that you're at 100% toughness, since the damage resistance only applies to your toughness and not your health

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presumably you'll also get staggered unless you're running TWBS

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ohhh.... so it will still bleed through?

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ye

void mural Jul 5, 2023, 7:28 PM

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good to know

shadow wigeon Jul 5, 2023, 7:29 PM

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void mural in practice, does that mean that their slides have i frame-like use?

Hits while sliding will trigger TWBS which is fun.

spice veldt Jul 5, 2023, 7:29 PM

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wat privacy protected dafuq

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#zealot-class message

sudden isle Jul 5, 2023, 7:32 PM

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suggestions on what to reroll?

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 7:32 PM

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flak->maniac, uncanny->deflector/unstable

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depending on your preference

sudden isle Jul 5, 2023, 7:33 PM

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ty ty

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Damn 80s damage stats

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Shame 1 perk is kinda borked. Carapace maniac would be perfect.

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Save it for when they remove the locks in 10 years whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet Jul 5, 2023, 7:39 PM

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uncanny 4 to dab on carapace whatthefuck_heresy

sudden isle Jul 5, 2023, 7:41 PM

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think they'll actually remove the locks?

harsh urchin Jul 5, 2023, 7:42 PM

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no lol

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there's no possible way

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the most they'll do is in like 6 months they'll add more ways to roll gear

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ie: being able to set a weapon model as preferred so you have a higher chance to drop that one instead of others after missions

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they want you to spend as much time grinding as humanly possible, and removing the locks basically removes all of the grind

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:12 PM

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I can see them removing the locks

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But you need a lot of a new rare crafting mat

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To unlock it

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I can see it coming when they add T6 difficulty/T6 equipment tier

willow hazel Jul 5, 2023, 8:17 PM

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sudden isle suggestions on what to reroll?

I would keep uncanny on Demios. Special procs it multiple times which let's you light special -> h2 to kill Crushers

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:18 PM

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not rolled purg staffs in a while, sitting on this. What do I want to min max it? (gonna roll for a better one) Blessings are correct right? (besides warp flurry 4, ofc)
and preferably i want 75% burn right?

what should I look for for better perks?

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plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:18 PM

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76% burn

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:18 PM

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ah ok

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:19 PM

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76% burn but thats a pretty good one, unyielding is great for bosses since the soulblaze can do a lot of damage when kept at max stack

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:19 PM

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ah unyielding is actually good?

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makes sense

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what aboiut the basic crit chance perk

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seemed to synergize with nexus, since people like crit on burn anyway

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but i know most weapons want double 25% dmg perks

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is there anything better I would swap that to?

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or would i literally be hunting for the same staff, with 76% burn and tier 4 warp flurry?

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:20 PM

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basically yea

sudden isle Jul 5, 2023, 8:20 PM

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god roll? or just close?

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:21 PM

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so BIS purg staff is
ranged Crit chance + unyielding perks
good stat pool, but min 76% burn
tier 4 warp flurry and warp nexus.

thats the meta build? Not like +flak dmg or something instead of crit?

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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its pretty equal for damage% vs crit% because a better crit rate = faster stacks

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so you get better chance of higher damage

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Either flak unyielding crit chance

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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^

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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All those 3 perks are good.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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everything else will die

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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crude cape so BIS purg staff is ranged Crit chance + unyielding perks good stat pool, but m...

I'd say crit chance and flak damage

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:22 PM

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warp nexus is the only "mandatory" blessing

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:23 PM

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I start to think if I maybe don't need Warp Battery on some builds and Staves

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Reject purgatus. Embrace blaze trauma.

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I never use warp battery. pepesurrender

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Blaze wildfire trauma?

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:23 PM

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plucky flax I never use warp battery. <:pepesurrender:759374139055931393>

I use it on my Nomanus loadout but

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:23 PM

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I will always use warp battery

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Warp battery is SO tiring

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Yeah blaze trauma wildfire ascendant blaze. Burn baby burn meme build but it's kinda good whatthefuck_heresy

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Here, have a chance to MAYBE one shot pox hound, kark you

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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So I basically have a BiS staff except for tier 4 unyielding, tier 4 flurry, and 6% burn.

Might still roll for it since I got nothing else to farm for but maybe I should save my resources for new weapons

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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On purg full fire build I don't use warp battery

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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Even without warp charge generating feats, it's not that hard to keep 5/6 warp charges

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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I just consider quitting it from my Nomanus loadout

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:24 PM

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feral verge Even without warp charge generating feats, it's not that hard to keep 5/6 warp c...

On damnation atleast

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:25 PM

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I already have a Bis trauma I mostly use. And the purg is close enough

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:25 PM

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crude cape I already have a Bis trauma I mostly use. And the purg is close enough

Can you show it?

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If not it's chill

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:25 PM

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The trauma sure

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This is my best rolled weapon I think

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:25 PM

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Looks

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Amazing

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:25 PM

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Not blaze trauma FeelsStrongMan

feral verge Jul 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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OOOOF only 79% charge rate. Dead staff. Bricked. Sorry, hadron ruined it

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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I’ve heard people debate if infested is bad or better as something else but my understanding is it allows quick charge poxwalker 1 shots etc

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And in testing it slaps

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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feral verge OOOOF only 79% charge rate. Dead staff. Bricked. Sorry, hadron ruined it

Damnit guess I’ll go back to the gamba machine

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:26 PM

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I heard flak unarmoured are best for rending trauma build.

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:27 PM

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I have bad meme- , I mean, Deimos roll
Has only one workable perk and 2nd blessing that is not slaughterer is 100%CC on special attack.

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Deimos is so fun especially with purgatus in full fire loadout

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1 tapping muties on follow up heavy...

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:27 PM

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All the cool people use illisi whatthefuck_heresy

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:27 PM

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plucky flax I heard flak unarmoured are best for rending trauma build.

Ya maybe unarmored would be better honestly not sure but it clears all hordes no problem anyway lol

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Don't get me wrong I use Ilissi on my zapzap staff loadout

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Sometimes I wish it was +carapace for even faster crusher kills

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:28 PM

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I wholly respect Trauma Siblings
Top dogs they are

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:28 PM

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I think carapace not needed with rending 4.

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:28 PM

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🧠

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I just use Nomanus because hahaha unlimited powaahh

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⚡

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And critting on nomanus sounds so pleasant

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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chrome arch 1 tapping muties on follow up heavy...

Love doing this purg + Deimos and trauma + illy are my two favorite psyker loadouts for sure

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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Why are you calling it nomanus monkaS

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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I memorize names

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🤷

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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The poke 1 shot on Arnold’s is super satisfying when you do it

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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Zap zap surge is Nomanus

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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Ah the manufacturer?

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:29 PM

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Yis

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And I often call revolver Zarona xD

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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plucky flax Not blaze trauma <:FeelsStrongMan:880925680416743505>

I’ve heard it’s a bad blessing mostly but fun - is it actually effective?

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It’s a fun blessing idea

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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It is with wildfire I assume

crude cape Jul 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Hopefully it gets buffed

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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There are no variations so I just use the weapon type. It's not like combat axes with antax, rashad, achylys

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Honestly full fire psyker is so much fun, 4 stacks still do the job you just miss some breakpoints on damnation

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:31 PM

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crude cape I’ve heard it’s a bad blessing mostly but fun - is it actually effective?

I dunno I only like blaze trauma. Don't have a normal damage trauma one.

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But can opener 4 on ogryn (8 stacks of brittleness/rending) eats up crushers

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Like wise with boltgun.

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:32 PM

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You stab once and it is enough?

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Can Opener ripper that is?

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Both those weapons don't need +carapace at all.

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:32 PM

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be careful mag we have 2 more staves that are made on Nomanus

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:32 PM

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Yeah if you have can opener 4

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Can opener 3 is only 6 stacks sadly.

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:32 PM

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meager plinth be careful mag we have 2 more staves that are made on Nomanus

2 more zapzap in the work?

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Or at least one cos Equinox is both trauma and uhm voidstrike

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The update psyker gets 3-4 new staves will be a good update

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:33 PM

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nah not zaps

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:33 PM

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IC

meager plinth Jul 5, 2023, 8:34 PM

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*nvm its 1 Nomanus and 2 rifthaven

plucky flax Jul 5, 2023, 8:34 PM

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Give big giga force sword with unlimited dodges whatthefuck_heresy

chrome arch Jul 5, 2023, 8:34 PM

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Interesting