psyker-class

[spice veldt]

prob just the charge rate stat on your staff, and you don't need to charge it to get the maximum utility out of the stun

[granite mauve]

it's that easy

[spice veldt]

it does have a somewhat slow charge with the scaling being between 2.7-1.8 seconds

[static lintel]

ok....i am playing a whole different game it seems

[spice veldt]

compare that to the voidstrike with 1.9-1.6 and trauma with 2.5-1

you can also always sprint-slide while channeling

[jovial solstice]

does crit on purgatus really apply soulblaze? and how useful is in general

[spice veldt]

crits apply two stacks of soulblaze instead of the usual non-crit one stack

[jovial solstice]

ohhh okay

[kind jay]

full peril resist surge shreks ass. you can get like 10 full charges off if your ult is up

nothing lives through that

[jovial solstice]

so basically i made right choice by choosing crit rate over flak armor damage

for purgatus

[jovial solstice]

Shreks ass

[kind jay]

shreks ass

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-26102346

[jovial solstice]

afaik, damage of the staff doesn’t really change when you upgrade damage since burn is main thing doing damage right?

or am i wrong abt that

[kind jay]

for purge? burn is the important stat, damage is dump

or quell speed

[plucky flax]

73% burn on my staff. Missing out on 15 stacks.

[spice veldt]

accidentally brought quicken and was sad when my brain bursts were so slow after ulting

[lyric burrow]

Kb goated

[harsh urchin]

vendor imo

[plucky flax]

tru dat

Got the damage dump stat though

[cold geode]

when we finally got the visor cosmetic

[static lintel]

is it worth waiting till i find a decent staff on the board or am i just better off upgrading greys

[safe crystal]

Upgrading from greys is faster but more expensive, because you're RNG rolling for the stats until you find a decent one

Upgrading from the other store gives you certainty about the stats you're getting, but its way slower

If you have the time and money to upgrade from greys, go with those

[static lintel]

basically pray if the store finally gives something usable

[safe crystal]

I personally only have one weapon bought from the hourly shop that i still use, but i also have played on/off since November

[steel flame]

i dunno man ive kinda just stopped playing this week. im sick and tired of the 5 casinos required to get a blessing i want to test and its just sapped any enthusiasm to play the game

[static lintel]

i play ever so often, there is just too much fatshark middlefingers. But i do want to get in difficulty 4 at some point

[steel flame]

all the small stuff is just getting to me and i dont want to play

[lyric burrow]

Yeah Brunts is much faster

[safe crystal]

This killed my will to play for a while, i'd rather get my RNG from Rimworld than this stupid upgrade system

[steel flame]

theres just so many stupid little things that keep adding up and im kinda just done with it all

[lyric burrow]

But you might blow 50k and get nothing usable

Esp if your rolling for something finnicky like chainsword that needs all high stats

[steel flame]

i blew through 250k and 16k resources trying to get a blessing for an experiement

and i still dont have it

[lyric burrow]

Yeah i think i spent 100k+ to get a good ironhelm

[steel flame]

fuck this crafting system

[lyric burrow]

Got lucky with blessings thankfully

So not much plasteel

[safe crystal]

I've spent ~300k plasteel as well to get a upgrade for my Crucis thammer, but its such a bitch to roll

[inland sand]

i am drowning in irony right now

[lyric burrow]

I have 2 million+ dockets built up on my psyker

So hopefully i can roll anything i need

In the future

[inland sand]

since buffing Hadron's blessing tier rate it is impossible to roll a level 2 blessing apparently

RIP ever getting focused channeling for trauma

[lyric burrow]

The shop gives me level 2 blessings constantly

[inland sand]

shop sure but not hadron

and shop never sells trauma

[lyric burrow]

What do you need a t2 blessing for

[inland sand]

and it certainly never sells trauma with the specific blessing I want

[lyric burrow]

Oh right

[inland sand]

becaused Focused Channeling is tier 2 only

[lyric burrow]

Channeling is t2 only

Forgot

Yeah that blows

[safe crystal]

I rolled this last week

You can still get T2

[inland sand]

wow that is mad unlucky

or in my case lucky

[inland sand]

just want u to know I read your last few messages and u have my utmost sympathy my friend

[safe crystal]

That one kinda sucked, so i rolled this 5 minutes later

Carapace is now UA

[inland sand]

this system fucking sucks and the sooner it goes in the bin the better

[steel flame]

while i was trying to roll for surge nexus trauma and got 6 nexus 3 blazing spirit voids

SIX

FUCKIN 6

[inland sand]

brutal

[lyric burrow]

I made a blazing nexus void

Its painful

[inland sand]

fwiw

[lyric burrow]

I need to make a blaze trauma

[steel flame]

its not even a salvagable nexus 4

[inland sand]

surge sucks on Trauma

[steel flame]

they were all nexus 3

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[inland sand]

i had to take a month break back there because the crafting system is so depressing

[steel flame]

i love my blaze trauma

[lyric burrow]

Whats the build for that

Spirit nexus?

[steel flame]

let me grab it

[lyric burrow]

Or spirit flurry

[steel flame]

spirit nexus4

you need nexus 4

its very noticable

id say mandatory

[lyric burrow]

Do you run any of the blaze blessings

Er

Feats

Or just the regular stuff

[steel flame]

wrong one

[lyric burrow]

I was about to say

[lyric burrow]

Ok that makes sense

[steel flame]

wish i had a better second perk but other than that its golden

[lyric burrow]

And this build is actually good right

Not just usable

[steel flame]

i use it on damnation hi shock

its my favorite trauma build

better than flurry trauma once you get the rythm down

[lyric burrow]

Idc either way i just dont want recon levels of sad

Ok cool

[steel flame]

it does require constant quell canceling at 80%+ peril so its pretty easy to blow up if you fall out of rythm

you wanna be spamming 1/4 charges to get fire going and clearing hordes and 1/2 and full for locking down and controlling threats as you cook everything

once you get 6 stacks goin on an entire horde you can pop AB for a horde wipe

[near wyvern]

I use nexus spirit trauma with 311112 and have cleared multiple damnation hi int stg runs with it. Like Zazy said, you gotta quell cancel and live between 80-100. Deimos for melee so you can one shot those mutants with H2 as it's the only enemy your trauma cannot control.

[lyric burrow]

So im not doing full charges with this one then

Might take some practice

But nothing too crazy

[steel flame]

i like knife myself but deimos is probably the melee to go with for most people

[lyric burrow]

So the fire is killing everything in this build

And trauma is for after fire gets going/controlling any elites

I didnt realize the fire was strong enough

To actually horde clear outside of AB

[steel flame]

think of it like this. the fire isnt always whats going to be killing stuff outside AB but it will chip it all down to get oneshot by trauma spam

[near wyvern]

3 stack fire is not by itself but then again you will be blasting the enemies with trauma outer explosions as well which puts trash into kill range even with 3 stacks

Not to talk about the fact that there is a 9% chance to get two procs in a row and that's 6 stacks which just clears all the trash in a couple of seconds.

[lyric burrow]

So its trauma + fire thats killing stuff

[near wyvern]

The version I use (311112) also has access to 6 stack AB so if you manage to land a proc on an elite pack (non-crusher) you can just press F to delete them all as that will push the stacks to 9.

[lyric burrow]

What's the advantage to it over flurry trauma

[near wyvern]

Yes

[near wyvern]

More versatile and you can deal ok damage while securing a location (hold point, med kit, downed player) and you can better deal with ranged units

[steel flame]

think of it as a purge/trauma hybrid with all the benifits of both

[near wyvern]

The trade off is that it's a lot more sweaty play style in order to be effective

[lyric burrow]

So how do the blaze stacks work

That never made full sense to me

The crit procs 3 right

[steel flame]

here comes da link

[near wyvern]

Check atheneum in pinned messages, section 5

And then check blazing spirit under ranged weapon blessings, it's the last section I think

[steel flame]

crit procs 3 with a cap of 6

[lyric burrow]

So what adds more stacks

[steel flame]

wdym

[lyric burrow]

How do i get from 3 to 6

[steel flame]

crit again

[lyric burrow]

Are the enemies not just dead at that point?

[steel flame]

hence the spam

it lights up the entire stagger aoe of the trauma

even outside the damage radius

[lyric burrow]

Ah ok

How often do you actually crit

[steel flame]

when you live at 80 peril

every 3/4 shots

[near wyvern]

30% crit chance when you have warp nexus 4, +5% from perk and 80+ peril

Sometimes you slip below 80 (but above 60) so that's 25%, hence every 3/4 like Zazy said

[lyric burrow]

Ok cool

Seems neat

[near wyvern]

And you gotta have Warp Nexus 4

That extra % over warp nexus 3 is very noticeable

[lyric burrow]

I think i have nexus 4

Just gotta get them on the same staff

also how do i know how many stacks are on an enemy

is it indicated with all the buffs

[spice veldt]

you can only know the exact number with a mod https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

[lyric burrow]

ah ok thats a little annoying

[steel flame]

you can also just listen for the very loud crit sound the trauma makes

[lyric burrow]

i usually dont like to use mods that give info you arent "supposed" to know

but i might make an exception there

oh ok so if i hear it once i know everything on fire is at 3 stacks

[steel flame]

you get the feel for how many stacks hordes have the more you play with it

[lyric burrow]

Cool

[steel flame]

i just love the build because i have all the cleanup and horde clear with fire as the purge staff but can also lock down threats and chunk stuff as a trauma staff and it never feels like im not equipped to deal with something

[polar grail]

I just got the cliffhanger achivement with the purge staff?

No ult used just fire?

[ornate hamlet]

I guess it's just ledging a bunch of twats with any psyker CC

I thought it was just trauma and the ult

[polar grail]

Does the purge staff even push back? thought they just like went down

[unreal dust]

It does. Primary has more push than the Channel does

This is more important when interrupting trappers and such

[harsh urchin]

primary is really good

you can use primary and then pull out deimos

against maniacs and stuff that doesn't really die to the flamer

[polar grail]

I was only channeling so wack

[unreal dust]

Channeling is a bit trickier. Since its only going to apply full push (which is still less than primary) to the first target hit. So either focusing the line and killing it (if you have wildfire) or measured sweeping is important against poxwalkers

[polar grail]

Guess I was doing measured sweeping as I dont have wildfire whatever that is

[unreal dust]

Its the Feat that allows stacks to spread when a target dies.

[polar grail]

o

[steel flame]

the cliffhanger can also trigger off killing enemies while they are falling

as long as they are falling and they die game does care how

pox walkers toppling over boxes counts as "falling" too so theres a chance the stars just aligned and you got 7

[cloud sequoia]

wtf, not playing for a week paid off

[fluid knot]

sorry bud, bit late on this i know, I run Flak/Maniac personally

[lyric burrow]

Its all g i went maniac anyway

I enjoy the build, heavies go through hordes decently

[fluid knot]

Ye its kinda good aye 🙂

[river dawn]

Literally cutest thing ive seen today

[spring hamlet]

Is there a way to turn off 100% peril sounds/visual effects?

or a mod

or whatever

[spice veldt]

In settings > Interface, you can tune down the Peril FX settings to 0

[spring hamlet]

ty 🙏

[steel flame]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17

[spring hamlet]

ty as well

[spice veldt]

I personally have mines set at 32% instead of completely turning it off because it is a nice reminder for when I'm about to kill myself

[steel flame]

whaaaa

i like my death to be a surprise

keeps me on my toes

[spice veldt]

I already have that in the form of snipers

[steel flame]

Oh come on we need more surprise mechanics in the game to really put a third A on this AA game

We already have the casino now we just need to put new classes into loot boxes

[white sky]

Please do not give them ideas

[fluid knot]

Curious to know how the subclasses are gonna work, is it gonna be a case of being able to switch skill tree or is it gonna require levelling a new character

[white sky]

I s2g if it's an entirely separate character I'm gonna lose my mind

[fluid knot]

Given we only have the five save slots it would make sense its the skill tree option but ye

Yeah that'd be the less desirable one for sure

[harsh urchin]

it's 100% going to be a new character to level

they specifically designed it that way

with the individualization of ordos and plasteel

[fluid knot]

Idk man, unless they plan on expanding the save slots thats gonna cause a lot of upset in the community

[safe crystal]

Character slots for aquilas

[harsh urchin]

they'll probably add more save slots lol that's easy

they'll probably add it for free cuz it doesn't make sense to monetize that

[safe crystal]

One can hope

[harsh urchin]

but having to go through the 1-30 experience

and having to grind a bunch of plasteel

is something they're going to force everyone to do

[fluid knot]

Provided the save slots are expanded, i dont hate the idea of levelling a new character up tbh

its a good way to learn to play it

[harsh urchin]

I personally dont think the game needs new classes or weapons atm

[fluid knot]

Nah, they would do better to fix the current issues, i certainly agree with you there

[harsh urchin]

i think they need to fix balance, fix qol, fix bots and fix the map selection

before I want them to put in new content

[fluid knot]

Well at least the prior comms link hints at some rebalancing so thats a start

Buffs an nerfs will be very welcome

[harsh urchin]

i dont think they're gonna buff anything lol

probably just slaughterer 75->25 and pinning fire 100->40

and they call it a day

lmfao

[fluid knot]

Those two are certainly on the chopping block, but i'd personally be surprised if nothing was buffed

There are so many dead-end blessings atm

[harsh urchin]

agreed

but i still dont think they're gonna buff anything lmao

[fluid knot]

Maybe its hopium, but personally i wanna see all the "Power" blessings changed to "Damage" :/

[spice veldt]

I think they'll buff some stuff

because they have previously buffed some blessings, although those measures were pretty quarter-way

[harsh urchin]

speedload from 8% to 20% woo

LOL

[safe crystal]

Stagger blessings go from 5% to 10% woo

[fluid knot]

The Limbsplitter change was a fairly good one imo

[harsh urchin]

they could make it so crits affect cleave

that would be a good change

[fluid knot]

that would be WAY better than having "Power" as a mechanic

Because if you have the option currently why would you take anything else when it effects a multitude of stats

[spice veldt]

i like crits as they are as basically a single-target damage boost

though I somewhat dislike how they interact with weakspot hits

[fluid knot]

How'd you mean Arco?

Like too OP or not enough?

[spice veldt]

the bonus damage from crits is lowered if you land a weakspot hit at the same time

[fluid knot]

Oh really? I didnt know that, thats interesting

[spice veldt]

so if a crit bodyshot gives +50 damage, a crit from a crit weakspot hit might contribute +40 damage instead

[fluid knot]

Yeah that checks out why its a wierd interaction, suppose depending on the weapon that removes the need to aim for weakspot strikes

Or rather makes it much less profitable to put the effort into consistently doing

[spice veldt]

there's an edge case related to this where critical headshots from a voidstrike will deal less damage to a Rager's head than a critical bodyshot

since ragers take 0.85x ranged damage to their head, and the damage contribution from weakspots is also lowered if you get a crit

[compact bluff]

oh since slaughterer might be nerfed i might as well say i think it's theoretically possible to get an illisi that can one-shot bodyshot poxwalkers with the minimum cleave damage, letting you kill like ~20 poxwalkers per swing

i dont think its been mentioned before because its such a specific build that you need on an illisi, and it needs a godroll on top of it
and because of that godroll requirement i dont even know of any illisi that anybody currently has that can do it...

[spice veldt]

with bloodthirsty/infested/warp battery?

[fluid knot]

That is very niche though, lets be honest here, aint none of us spamming a Voidstrike into ragers when we have Illisi and Deimos

Or indeed BB/KB

[spice veldt]

i know that you can't do it with unstable power/infested/4 warp charges, so i assume a bit more damage from bloodthirsty and 2 more warp charges might let you bodyshot them

the revolver also has this problem

[compact bluff]

+groaners/poxwalkers, +infested, t4 unstable power at 4 stacks, t4 slaughterer at 5 stacks, warp unleashed, 4 warp charges
you need like. all of it to be perfect on the weapon

i have an illisi with the right setup its just missing unstable power, its minimum cleave damage is 266 at max

[fluid knot]

Ohhh that actually makes a lot of sense.. I was wondering for ages why it feels so ineffective vs Ragers

[safe crystal]

I guess you must've missed me saying this the last time you were trying to sell the revolver here

[spice veldt]

yeah that along with its lower maniac damage

revolver does better against the scab rager than the dreg rager

huh the weakspot multiplier on revolvers is kinda ass

[compact bluff]

yeah the revolver has alot of really odd quirks about it

whenever i use it i dont really aim for headshots tbf unless it's an enemy that needs it just because the headshots dont really get you much aside from a big chance of a hitreg error

[fluid knot]

I've simply said its usable, not that its good mate Much like many options the community seems to think are non-viable because they aint something that cant roll X super-overpowered +Power blessings

If you actually read what i post regarding the revolver, you'd also know i'd said that the same roll is fulfilled better by both the new shotguns

Same reason i totally ignore people who obviously only run the most powerful possible meta options

[compact bluff]

oh yeah! the revolver blessing, trickshooter, might actually be the worst blessing in the game

you get extra power on chained consecutive weakspot hits, which sounds great, but the 'chained' means you have to constantly hold down fire or it will immediately lose all stacks if you let up firing at all
not only that, but if anything is hit by the revolver and it isnt a headshot, you lose the stacks. so if you shoot a guy in the head, and the bullet goes through and hits another guy's stomach, you lose the stacks
at least it looks like you do... it's hard to tell because the stacks genuinely get lost so so quickly

[fluid knot]

Best blessing the revolver gets is "Hand Cannon"

Hands down, no content

Shoot crusher in the dome twice, wallop with melee till dead, ez

[compact bluff]

speedload is amazing on it too though

the One weapon it is good on

[fluid knot]

Can't say ive really used that one tbh

It'd be better if that wasnt a blessing though an was just a native feature of the weapon, give us the equivilent of an IRL speedloader in the animation an it'd go up massively in viability

Could do with more ammo too, same for shotguns, because as powerful as they are, they're severely hurt by the reload time and low ammo pool

[compact bluff]

funny thing is they already buffed the ammo and damage on it once

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but sadly not enough

Though apparently there are more versions on the way, so we'll see how that pans out

Its weird tho, because the only weapons with actually well-done variation between the MK's is the Hellbores and Rippers, so they are capable of getting things right in that respect, but for whatever reason they've chosen not too, or fucked up with the majority of other weapon types and thier associated versions

See: IAGs as a good example

[fluid knot]

Accurate tbh

[safe crystal]

#psyker-class message

When i first pointed it out. Also, stop putting words into my mouth, its very rude. I pointed here, right now, you missed this tidbit when you were selling it here, thats all

I do agree with you that both shotties are far better than the revolver

Not sure about lawbringer

[fluid knot]

I didnt put any words in your mouth at all pal

Not a one

Lawbringer is dogwater tho

Well.. thats a bit unfair, the secondary is dogwater, the primary is ok

[olive ember]

eh for the average player, but a really good psyker can run it down just as hard as a zealot

look at @spice veldt over tehre

all he does is run it down with Josho and redverse

every fucking game

[lunar hollow]

this sounds really gay

im ngl

[safe crystal]

Then elaborate where i said, roughly 30 minutes ago, the revolver is not viable because they cant roll X

[olive ember]

it is

[fluid knot]

Kinda yes, kinda no, idk its wierd, i guess a lot of people dont realise that the things have unlimited dodges

[spice veldt]

yeah so?

[lunar hollow]

im just sayin

y'know

[spice veldt]

i know

[lunar hollow]

good

[olive ember]

its 2023 josho, you can come out of the closet

besides

everyone already knows

[lunar hollow]

shut up

[olive ember]

how else does Redverse know you are a bottom

[fluid knot]

Anime PfP kinda implies it pal (dw im just being a windup)

[lunar hollow]

anyways back on topic most pub players have like

70 iq at most

u can play aggressively on every class it just requires being good at the game

psyker is probably the hardest because u don't really have 4-500 hp, a button that makes you not die every 90 seconds, or virtually unlimited toughness

[spice veldt]

and the game not having a very good tutorial

not even explaining what dodging/sprinting/sliding does at all

[lunar hollow]

i mean it kinda does

but there's a bunch of stuff it doesn't really tell u

[spice veldt]

yeah p much

[lunar hollow]

because it doesn't just show u the code for how the game works

[spice veldt]

it's too vague for my liking

[lunar hollow]

its fatshark nothing is intuitive

[spice veldt]

they could just tell you that dodging breaks tracking and shortens the reach of melee and gives i-frames against ranged

it's really one of the aspects that shows the lack of time that they had to work with

though I don't know how well the tutorial in vt2 was either

so maybe they wouldn't have given that information anyways

[lunar hollow]

vt2 also like

doesn't have iframes

[spice veldt]

so dodging was purely hitbox displacement

[lunar hollow]

yes

which had some really funny effects for bardin vs those sorcerers that grab u

(cant remember the name)

since there was some weird targeting system it was like considerably harder for a bardin to dodge it

[safe crystal]

You can hop over the stormvermin slices if you're on a slope as well

[compact bluff]

the only thing i remember about stormvermin is that vt1 stormvermin didnt have a run attack so if you had a mobile weapon you could just run away while poking or shooting them
they learned to fix that for vt2 by giving enemies running attacks
then they forgot in darktide cuz now you can just outrun enemies again

[safe crystal]

You can hop over the stormvermin stabby run attack as well on a slope, but its needs to be a bit steeper

[ornate hamlet]

BB should be a group target attack instead of single target

[safe crystal]

It would break a lot of the things in the class though, like gaining warp charges through BB kills, wrack n ruin etc. Its also thematically just better as a single target

[spice veldt]

as a utility weapon, BB is fine since it bypasses bulwark shields and gives you decent ranged anti-carapace

[safe crystal]

Giving those nasty math problems for ogryns to solve

So their head explodes

[steel flame]

running attacks were just the fucking worst

so much sliding and they hit way outside of range for rats

some of that shit might as well have been teleporting to you despite being a mile away

[compact bluff]

yeah i really didnt like the running attacks, they were just kinda a flawed mechanic
designed to stop players from running but they forgot you can just block and side dodge
and now it just punishes players for not blocking and side dodging

[snow coral]

Yeah BB is fine. I like my current built. I clear hordes with the void staff and perk into peril damage so BB kills almost everything in two hits on damnation, so I can pop specials and elites when that is needed

[spice veldt]

uwu

[lunar hollow]

how low is the radius on it

[spice veldt]

i fatfingered the enter key ok

u motherfucker

lemme see my game crashed when i changed loadouts

[lunar hollow]

its a reaction image now

[lunar hollow]

wow we have the same shitty blast radius stat on the weapons we should kiss

[safe crystal]

[spice veldt]

shut up u unloved child why don't i give you the love you never received

[lunar hollow]

[spice veldt]

damn exactly 5% blast radius

[lunar hollow]

see

its meant to be

[spice veldt]

also, I think that combat ability regen% on curios reduces the amount of flat CDR that you get from psykinetic's aura

[lunar hollow]

but do u know

[spice veldt]

wat

the extent of ur love for me?

very much, I bet

[lunar hollow]

thats not what i was talking about

u said u think that the cdr bla bla bla

and so i asked

but do u truly know

[spice veldt]

amazing

we will radius all over the enemies

[lunar hollow]

no we wont we'll radius over like 1/8th of the enemies

dummy

[spice veldt]

true

[burnt maple]

that's like a sniper staff

[lunar hollow]

i cannot fucking believe derpy deleted the thing where he said "aura is 5% chance to refund ult in coherency"

god im so mad i didnt screenshot that

[spice veldt]

that motherfucker

[lunar hollow]

it was so fucking funny

cuz it was out of nowhere

and it was so fucking stupid

[spice veldt]

actually psycho speak

i thought he was trolling

[burnt maple]

it's 6%

[lunar hollow]

he was like mad when he said it too

fuck i cannot BELIEVE he denied me that

[burnt maple]

lol

[lunar hollow]

its 4%

[spice veldt]

i'm eating your ass anyways

[lunar hollow]

😳

[lunar hollow]

makes sense. dog pfp

[safe crystal]

Giving out Skyrim modding instructions smh

[harsh urchin]

wait wat happen

update my ass

[lunar hollow]

_ _

[harsh urchin]

@spice veldt wtf i could say it

lmao

what was the context

[spice veldt]

i guess it's e*t ass

eat ass

eat ur ass

[lunar hollow]

eat my ass

[spice veldt]

hmm ok

[lunar hollow]

wtf

[harsh urchin]

wtf

LOL

[spice veldt]

will do

[safe crystal]

They just really like each other

[burnt maple]

doing some real science in this chat

[lunar hollow]

do not

[harsh urchin]

too late

i tried doing evis + fire shotgun

bcz hs + fire shotgun seems redundant

but evis sucks too much ass

and i'm too lazy/poor to make a hammer

so i guess i'm not allowed to use fire shotgun

[spice veldt]

something something ur poor because ur too lazy something something

[lunar hollow]

pull yourself up by your bootstraps

invest 1100 hours in the game

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[harsh urchin]

the problem is

that ever since i made my godrolled illisi

[lunar hollow]

excuses

[harsh urchin]

i've just only wanted to play psyker

[lunar hollow]

back to the plasteel mines wagie

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[harsh urchin]

actually addicted to this thing

i have enough money for beam staff when it comes out in like a year

[spice veldt]

das like 6 whole beam staffs

[lunar hollow]

all waiting to be bricked

[harsh urchin]

but yeah when i'm holding the illisi

i actually feel like holding a real evis

not that piece of shit the zealot has

[indigo siren]

That is a stupid good roll.

[cosmic sigil]

Brother?

[restive slate]

So a question, will there be any announcements this week?

Or are the FS staff already on their 2 months holiday?

[plucky flax]

Patch next week then that's it for the summer.

[oblique gulch]

if I'm building a rashad for single target dmg what blessings do I want

Thrust Decimator?

[restive slate]

Cool, preparing myself for either a disappointment or being blueballed haha

[burnt maple]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[plucky flax]

Yeah it won't be a big patch. Some blessings and balance changes. Nothing about crafting.

[lyric burrow]

Yeah probably

Actually I might go headtaker over decimator

[kind jay]

inb4 slaughterer nerf

with nothing else to make up for it

[spice veldt]

typical obscurus L

[lunar hollow]

typical arcotash statement

[harsh urchin]

the expectation is slaught 75->25 and pinning 100->40

and nothing else

don't get your hopes up lmfao

[kind jay]

oh i personally dont care ill adapt to whatever. i just hope something fun comes out of it

[cyan portal]

redeemable?

[plucky flax]

You got deflector man it's op

[harsh urchin]

ye weapon is great

[hearty python]

swap exorcist for slaughterer, and I'd swap infested for maniac and you'll have real killer sword

or swap for Uncanny Strike to near (or actually) 1-shot crushers with charged heavy 1

[loud peak]

is flurry and nexus still bugged when used together on the surge?

[inland sand]

how are/were they bugged?

[inland sand]

this would be my choice

US very good on Deimos

[lunar breach]

Anyone up for helping a fellow Psyker out with Malleus Monstrum....? Happy to help with any other penances in exchange for help.

[fluid knot]

Yeah idm mate

Done it for like ten other people now anyway

You Damnation ready? (We'll do it in Heresy, but just so i know your level of gameplay)

[lunar breach]

Thank you!

[lunar breach]

Yeah I am damnation ready. Been playing for a while now, got all to 30 and now just maining my Psyker. When works for you?

[fluid knot]

Im easy mate, whenever

[lunar breach]

Free now?

[fluid knot]

Ye

Send me your code

[lunar breach]

Will do, 2 secs

[fluid knot]

In Strike Team 10 VC

[lunar breach]

Like Steam code?

[lunar breach]

2 secs mate just sorting microphone sorry

[fluid knot]

Ney bother pal

[inland sand]

what build do people like on surge? trying a few different combos atm

[plucky flax]

313133 or if you're spicy go 311122

[inland sand]

are u running Terrifying Barrage over Warp Flurry in those builds?

[plucky flax]

Nah

[inland sand]

hnmmm, Warp flurry doesn't really do a whole lot on Surge

you can only get 4 stacks max from full charge surge shots if ur not runner inner tranq

and with inner tranq you hit 5 stacks at around 95% peril

would be nice if they added more blessings to it

[plucky flax]

The other blessings don't really do anything though so even flurry is better.

[inland sand]

sure, but it's not great

like ur taking Flurry because u already took nexus and TB is terrible

focused channeling doesn't really do anything and neither does run n gun

[plucky flax]

Is this good?

[safe crystal]

Decent stats, terrible first perk and blessing

Up to you if you want to gamble on it

[plucky flax]

Nah I was memeing about the quell speed.

[safe crystal]

Its still decent :>

[plucky flax]

• actually good modifiers other than that.

[dense kayak]

best weapon rating i ever had. i would rather have had the dump stat be mobility instead of damage, but oh well

[ember hornet]

damn

why are 550s always....

[fluid knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043961296531492884/1097887859022762145/Capture_decran_2023-03-13_081354.png

[ember hornet]

hey, a good 550

[fluid knot]

Not mine, but thought you sounded like you needed to see one

[ember hornet]

not a fan of the reload speed esp if they are vet, but what are you gonna do

[fluid knot]

Is a Zealots

At least it has a reason to be there in that case yaknow

[ember hornet]

still not a fan, 25% unyielding is so much damage

or maniac

but hey they can change it so that's cool

[fluid knot]

Aye i agree, but eh, reload on bolder is long asf so i dont really blame them

[ember hornet]

just gotta get that slide gaming going

also fun trick, just reload halfway and swap to melee, then normal pullout time when you need it again

[fluid knot]

Hows that work? Another reload cancel?

[ember hornet]

you can slightly cancel the bolter, but I just mean slide dodging while reloading to effectively negate being immobile

[fluid knot]

Ahhh gotcha, ye

QQ reload cancel works ofc

Kinda anyway

[ember hornet]

the biggest cancel is the one I mentioned, putting it away mid reload and then it's normal when you pull it back out

really just kind of need to treat bolter as "primary" in a sense

and favor having it out or ready

instead of running with melee weapon

cause you can always easily switch to melee

[strong thicket]

So, does the force sword special categorise as a warp attack?

[fluid knot]

It does not

Sadly

[strong thicket]

Bollocks

Will have to settle for quietude then

[fluid knot]

Quietitude is great anyway mate

V good feat

[meager plinth]

You mean Illisi?

[strong thicket]

Oh I know but warp absopriton + illisi

[strong thicket]

Ye

[meager plinth]

Ye with the toughness regen feat, every charged attack give toughness

Illisi is absolutely busted

[strong thicket]

I like the melee psyker with the surge

[meager plinth]

After playing too much Illisi it kinda got boring

[plucky flax]

What is this burning intensity tied to the damage stat on purg staff?

[latent stirrup]

probably delay between the ticks for the dmg of the secondary

as in tick rate of its direct damage

[plucky flax]

Ah but not of the burn damage.

So it doesn't matter.

[latent stirrup]

y

burn dmg itself is only affected by perks and power/dmg from blessings or feats or something like that

and number of stacks ofc

number of max stacks and application rate are both affected by burn stat

[plucky flax]

24% damage

[latent stirrup]

perks are pretty bad but the modifiers are technically fine

[plucky flax]

Wut you want crit chance though.

[latent stirrup]

although it should be very easy to gget a better one with higher overall modifier.
you do not really need the burn stat to be any higherthan 70% or so, where it gets 15 max stacks

cc perk in flamer is pretty bad

many people do not get it though

[plucky flax]

And 76% burn for 15 stacks.

[latent stirrup]

cc blessing is good

but 4-5% cc from perk only give you an extra crit every 20 hits

you can not stack with the staff past 15 hnless the last hit is a crit

on average, you will get less than 1 extra stack on each enemy that you kill (even on elites) from that 4-5% extra cc

soft targets die before you reach 15 stacks usually, which means that the 5% extra cc will likely not have hit at all
hard targets die after you reach your max 15 stacks in which case you only save maybe 0.2 s on ttk even if the crit procs

[plucky flax]

I see.

[latent stirrup]

with double dmg perk, you get guaranteed bonus dmg and it is much more effect

with the CC blessing, you usually have 15-20% bonus cc which is good, but as i explained above, the 5% cc from perk doesnt do all that much

you probably want something similar to this
(i got very lucky)

unarmored is not necessarily the n1 pick for 2nd perk, but it is pretty good in some situations
for example, 20%+ against unarmored allows you to kill damnation dreg shooters with 5 WC with ascendant blaze

some people take unyielding, which i am nto a fan of because when fighting unyielding, you won't be holding your staff for most of the time, which means that the perk bonus will not apply anyway

for example when you fight a boss (regular bosses that are not assassination targets, are unyielding), you will stack your dot, then bb 2x, then tap the boss with flamer and again bb 2x

so you will only hold your staff for a very small fraction of the overall time and the unyielding dmg bonus wont do all that much

[latent stirrup]

if you do not care about this part, probably take flak+maniac or flak+elite

[strong thicket]

True, same for my main vet with ps but for now I'm just about lvl 60 with my psyker so

[meager plinth]

Same with powersword, yea it kills stuff but like

Iunno

[strong thicket]

It definitely makes many things trivial and it's easy to build

Does not require much brainpower to play

[meager plinth]

It's good to have a good one when you want to shit your brain and just KILL

[fluid knot]

If you're looking for an interesting melee option for psyker might i reccomend the combat knife?

Its got massive dodge range so repositioning is a breeze

[meager plinth]

What is better knife or dueling sword?

[latent stirrup]

better for what?

[meager plinth]

Movement

[latent stirrup]

for whom?

[meager plinth]

Psyker

[latent stirrup]

purely for running away, you probably move faster with knife

[latent stirrup]

i mean which player 😄

[meager plinth]

Me

Iunno in general

[latent stirrup]

weapon performances are player skill dependent in some regards, but i guess for running around, the knife is the way to go

good dodge range, sprint speed and you move fast with heavy1 into slide

[meager plinth]

Knife has faster running speed and dueling sword has better dodges I think?

[nimble bolt]

what is the easiest way to get the cliffhanger achievement? Got 3 left and i just cannot get it

[strong thicket]

Hab Dreyko spawns a massive swarm at the end

You can wait near the extract and just push some off the landing platform

[nimble bolt]

ooo okay will give that a go thank you

[strong thicket]

Power matrix is the same

[latent stirrup]

you got a friend who can help you?

not sure if it still works, but i helped a buddy: he staggered and ignited enemies with ascendant blaze psyker ult, i kicked them off the cliff with ogryn charge (it is possible that the last instance of damage before the guys die to falling, is what determines who killed them, so the dot would make the psyker the killer, even though the ogryn knocked them off the map)

you can also easily do it early in magistrati oubliette
when entering the map, you drop down into the "dirt floor area" and then go towards the left to get into the straight, long and narrow "metal floor area" with a "stone floor corridor" that goes parallel on your right

you can knock off a horde in the corner right before the entry to the stone floor corridor (remember to not only ult, but also use your weapon to push after that)

the first horde usually spawn around the time you reach that spot anyway, which is nice

[plucky flax]

Vigil station end event. Enemis have to cross 2 small bridges to get to the hacking station.

[nimble bolt]

ill give it a go, thanks guys

[steel flame]

End of the dreyko mission during the escape on the spiral up to get to the extraction there is a hole in the railing and the enemies run right toward it. All you gotta do is push. I got it there during launch week when it was unnefed and still like 20 instead of 7

[crystal jolt]

beginning of dreyko is good as well, if you wait around there long enough a horde will spawn eventually. lots of good spots for it

[ornate hamlet]

Funny, preacher calles the psycher a freak but the Emperer is supposed to be the most powerful Psycher in existance

[olive ember]

in case you haven't noticed the zealots aren't the sharpest tools in the shed

they are after all quite literally peasants who have nothing else to cling to but their faith

[kind jay]

and one of my faves

[tropic vigil]

i love the interaction between schizo psyker and i think the aggro ogryn. the one about ogryn wanting to be hated.

[kind jay]

psyker/ogryn interactions are some of the best

[fresh panther]

The spot I managed this achievement on is atop a bent pipe right before you drop down into the last area on hab dreyko's escape. Weak enemies will pour down from above you on one particular spot on the pipe which has no railing, letting you easily push them off with a force sword after hitting f

[static lintel]

so what do i want in a purgatus staff

burn as close to 100%, big cloud, damage doesnt matter?

[inland sand]

Warp Resistance, Burn and Cloud ideally at 80

dmg doesn't matter, quell is whatever

Flak/Crit chance as perks

Nexus/Flurry as blessings

[static lintel]

screenshotted for prosperity

any way to make the lightning staff not suck ?

[spice veldt]

surge is mostly for the stun so melee is your main weapon when running surge

[plucky flax]

I run surge when I play with people. Purg when I solo queue.

[static lintel]

they generally seem to get out of stun before i even switch, so its more a support

[plucky flax]

Just surge and chill mane.

Relax gaming.

[static lintel]

nothing is relaxing on difficulty 4-5

[plucky flax]

Low intensity sedition.

[frank hazel]

For the Illisi is it more important to have finesse or warp resistance?

[spice veldt]

finesse, since that also affects attack speed

[frank hazel]

Playing Brunt's Armory and getting a few atm

[static lintel]

last low intensity i did could just as well be called sniper gauntlet

[spice veldt]

I'm fine with having lower warp res on illisi, though I personally wouldn't want less than 51% warp res since that's the threshold for getting 4 specials off iirc

i forget if that's for 4 or 5 specials

[frank hazel]

Ah okay the warp resist on this one is around 57 so I guess that'll be ok

[spice veldt]

seems good

yeah I like at least 51% warp res cuz that's 24.6% peril generated per special, allowing you to get three specials off after ulting from 100%

you can always activate the special at 99% peril, so a low warp res on force swords isn't as detrimental as it is on staffs

[frank hazel]

Ohh nice

Thank you ^^

I also got a void strike staff which seems decently well rounded.

[inland sand]

Surge is a weird one, ur job is to cook flak gunners and render specials and elites flacid

[spice veldt]

you can do an RMB and immediately swap to your melee to cancel out of the casting animation

the only enemy that requires you to cast for a while to stun is the mutant as far as I know

[spice veldt]

voidstrike has range and hordeclear, but I personally don't like it since it doesn't have much else because its cleave and damage is too low to deal with groups of elites well

staffs like Trauma and Purgatus don't have damage either, but they have the cleave

I don't dislike it too much now that you can sprint with it and thus sprint-slide while casting though

[static lintel]

all the staffs feel very gimmicky to me so far

hope a strong purgatus is going to do well

[frank hazel]

I get that. I think for me is that I just enjoy the voidstrike so much, alongside purgatus

[static lintel]

i dont think i have seen a stat above 80 yet

[spice veldt]

80 is the hard cap currently

purgatus pretty much performs the same as long as you have an 80 cloud radius stat since the sore point of the purg is its range

[lyric burrow]

I find i can usually at least L1 them with deimos in the head before they get out which is good damage

[spice veldt]

I dislike all the staffs as well, since I want single-target burst DPS out of my ranged weapon

it's a shame that staffs are the only option if I want my toughness regen feats to synergize with it, and I am not willing to run a force sword with a low warp res to make up for it

[static lintel]

feels like the pistol and shotgun is just best weapon overall, but im a psyker and i shall staff

80 is max, i see

leave it to fatshark to even mess up a bloody statbar

[lyric burrow]

Pistol is insane

The fire shotgun is quite good and the slug shotgun is also good but a bit worse than the fire one just cause the infinite cleave is pretty insane

Both have the ammo issue though

[static lintel]

i prefer the slug shotgun because the range

the flame shotgun...im just bad at it since i keep shooting downwards

[lyric burrow]

Yeah flame is more aggro

[ornate hamlet]

Slug Shotgun?

there is a slug shotgun?

[spice veldt]

agripinaa shotty

[ornate hamlet]

Ohhhh you are talking about the specials ok lol

[burnt maple]

iirc the flame shotgun can proc On Hit weapon blessings if you fire it and swap to melee

If it can, does that mean the purgatus can?

[spice veldt]

all DoTs do that, so yeah the purgatus can as well

[burnt maple]

Hmm might be fun to mess around with Headtaker and some other on hit blessing. I haven't swapped off my Illisi since I got it

[harsh urchin]

I think some people use illisi with slaught and wildfire with that

I think its cute; but effectiveness wise its probably a downgrade

Since you're dropping your single target option as well as your 25 talent for memes

[burnt maple]

All of the On Critical hit blessings are trash imo. Even with +5 crit and nexus they're a gimmick at best

[oblique gulch]

good?

[burnt maple]

That would be God rolled if the mobility and penetration were swapped

[oblique gulch]

okay so pen matters

on that weapon

I was kinda like it's mostly for hordes

maybe is fine

[burnt maple]

I'm not sure how much tbh I don't use the dueling swords so I've never looked

I'd wait for one of the numbers guys to chime in

[oblique gulch]

well imma snag it atleast

is cheap

[burnt maple]

Yeah pick it up I say

Worst case you use it to fish for blessings

[oblique gulch]

honestly seems like it was a good dump stat, thing already does shit to armored targets

[spice veldt]

duelling swords have uncanny strike at least

[oblique gulch]

plus the main point of this weapon is movement and horde clear

[spice veldt]

movement but not hordeclear

[oblique gulch]

really?

[spice veldt]

MKV has a pretty good block cost of 0.33 at 80% defense if you want to build it for daemonhost tanking memes (though you could always dodge)

[oblique gulch]

I thought they were good at it

horde clearing that is

[spice veldt]

duelling swords have at most 2 cleave on all attacks including lights and heavies, and their damage/attack speed isn't enough to make up for the lack of good blessings

[oblique gulch]

wait why do they have rampage then

the fuck

[spice veldt]

their push-attack has 6 cleave

that's the one attack with more than 2 cleave

but the push-attack also has the cleave distribution of their lights
the push-attack does have a nice property where it maintains the full crit/weakspot damage multiplier for 3 targets unlike most weapons which drop it after the 1st target hit in a cleave

the lights/heavies can at least trigger Rampage against Groaners (0.75 hitmass)

[oblique gulch]

hmm interesting

[spice veldt]

for comparison, here's the cleave distribution of a force sword's sweeping lights

.
and here's the cleave distribution of a duelling sword light

i ran a quick and dirty test with this MKIV duelling sword w/o warp unleashed or warp charges

it took 28.57 seconds to clear 40 poxwalkers with a repeating combo of a push-attack followed by 6 lights to proc rampage

a gray 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first target illisi takes 29.710 seconds to kill 40 poxwalkers w/o warp unleashed or warp charges with the light combo

[harsh urchin]

ye but proper combo will take like 5 seconds

to be fair

[spice veldt]

you mean for the illisi?

[harsh urchin]

huh no blessings/feats/warp charges

feel like that'd change things

[spice veldt]

yup

my point is that a decked-out duelling sword is competed by a gray illisi's light combo

[harsh urchin]

my expectation

is that they'll take the infinite dodge thing and make it dueling sword exclusive and buff the weakpoint dmg

[spice veldt]

here are my results with blessings/warp unleashed/no warp charges (albeit with 1 sample each)

[harsh urchin]

since rn the dueling sword has no identity

[spice veldt]

maybe they'll buff the crit chance on it

since the push-attack has the interesting property of maintaining the crit/weakspot multiplier for three targets hit in a cleave instead of the usual one

maybe give it some more significant damage buffs on certain attacks like the deimos

[harsh urchin]

something that might be interesting

is adding a talent for psyker: You can 0-15% crit chance based on your heat. 15% at 0 heat, 0% at 100

i think that'd make guns + non force swords more useable

[rigid needle]

What exactly does critical damage do on purgatus staff?

critical strike adds extra stacks, but damage?

[spice veldt]

critical damage itself sucks, but critical hits apply two soulblaze stacks instead of one

table of an 80 dmg purg RMB

[spice veldt]

it's a more interesting version of warp unleashed

[harsh urchin]

exactly

that's the point

[spice veldt]

oh i didn't see the inverse scaling

[harsh urchin]

it's supposed to work on weapons

that can't generate heat

[spice veldt]

maybe a feat that slowed down passive quelling

since now that active quelling is pretty fast nowadays, the fast speed of non-force passive quelling may not necessarily be all that well

since I'd still want a feat like that to work pretty well on staffs esp with blazing spirit

you could work with it by using the staff at 0% peril, but you quell significantly less at lower peril than from a higher peril

[steel flame]

What I want is blazing spirit 4 on staves

A secondary want is for them to buff it to force sword stack cap of 12sb on 4

No shot they will do that but I can dream

Though I think what I really want are unique blessings for each stave. Kinda like overclocks in drg

[harsh urchin]

eh I would rather those come from different models of staves

and keep the blessings away from that direction of design

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword on its way to use 2 blessings to be on par with a basic melee weapon

God, I love being unable to one-shot a poxwalker with a powered light attack from the weapon that has 2 cleave

Dueling sword is basically the combat axe from the worst timeline

no cap ong

[twilit flicker]

if we balanced the dueling sword against the deimos, what would it look like?

i havent used the dueling sword in quite a long time, the special attack hardly ever. the way i see it, its like slightly less mobile knife with more reach. hopefully thats what they were going for except they dropped the damage somewhere in the between the couch cushions.

its a psyker only weapon too right, it somehow doesnt feel special, maybe the veterans and zealots should have access to it too

like, compared to a catachan sword it feels special but not compared to a freaking power sword, or eviserator

idk, i kinda went off on a tangent there ... anyway.

[ornate hamlet]

I would give it access to slaughterer (or honestly just make it able to one-hit poxwalkers on a headshot), make it able to cleave 3 or maybe 4 poxwalkers and give the special massive stagger on head hits

At the moment its damage suffers a lot despite its finesse multiplier

[twilit flicker]

extra stagger on weakspot hits, now theres a new blessing. also true, making finesse matter more ...

it feels like its in a good spot, but its just not very high up on the power chain ... better than the catachan, a little worse than a knife.

[ornate hamlet]

I would say that at 70% or maybe a bit more on the relevant damage values, poxwalker headshots would kill the first target

So people don't get nasty fucked by RNG with things like "this breakpoint is at 78%"

I think giving it slaughterer is the easiest way, but I don't like the idea because it's a broken blessing and I want the weapon to be good on its own

[twilit flicker]

i dont like the idea of giving slaugheter either, its too easy

[ornate hamlet]

In fact, I find it downright stupid that weapons can have things like slaughterer and uncanny strike, because they're straight damage buffs instead of things that actually change the weapon significantly

[twilit flicker]

the dueling sword is the recon lasgun of swords right now lol ... okay well, maybe not exactly, it just sounded funny.

[ornate hamlet]

Limbsplitter is an interesting blessing because it brings block cancel, but also block cancel is obnoxious and I'm not sure there even are any relevant limbsplitter breakpoints

And most importantly, it's a tradeoff

It changes the way you approach the weapon in a neutral way instead of slaughterer's change of "now you can more safely spam light attacks"

[twilit flicker]

maybe a couple of blessing that work like, give extra stagger on weakspot hits and extra damage on staggered opponents.

its different, not extactly new, for melee weapons maybe?

and then let the vets and zealots have it, although i think they would be disappointed tbh hehe, its sounds fair okay!

[steel flame]

I would too but God the blessing pool on staves sucks ass

[ornate hamlet]

Skullcrusher gives 4 stacks of +5% damage on staggered enemies

Well, at least tier 4

Turns out it does nothing on the weapons that have them

But that's also because the weapons are inherently bad

Claw and crusher, probably some ogryn stuff too

It's like a stagger rampage, just worse

... so it's a stagger rampage

[long osprey]

What do you mean? The blessing skullcrusher do not work at all?

[static lintel]

is this worth upgrading or am i better off waiting till i get something with more warp resistance?

[kind jay]

worth

practically a godroll

[static lintel]

ok, then flak and crit

and nexus and flurry right?

[burnt maple]

if damage was at 80%, your primary action damage would be 17 and your secondary would be...12? or 13 lol

[harsh urchin]

flak/crit/unarmored/infested/unyielding

whatever you like

[static lintel]

so i only need to change terrifying barrage?

[harsh urchin]

ya

[burnt maple]

yes, absolutely

[spice veldt]

damage presumably also controls the "rate of fire" of the direct damage, but yeah it's pretty meh compared to stacking soulblaze

[static lintel]

i...dont get what warp nexus does

[spice veldt]

you become more muscular

[lunar hollow]

its crit chance

[harsh urchin]

🦾

[harsh urchin]

wow josho so boring

[static lintel]

gain, yes

[lunar hollow]

yes

never ever trust a fatshark tooltip

[harsh urchin]

you should learn to have fun

[lunar hollow]

they lie

[spice veldt]

yeah josho wouldn't know about muscles anyways since he's a femboy

[lunar hollow]

you are absolutely not one to talk

[spice veldt]

maybe in this weird hypothetical image that you've crafted of me

[lunar hollow]

be quiet

[spice veldt]

no

[static lintel]

time to wait till something comes with gains

[lunar hollow]

know ur place

[spice veldt]

no

why don't u know ur place

[lunar hollow]

idk where u are

smh

[spice veldt]

but you know where you are right

[burnt maple]

i thought Arcotash said they could open a jar

[spice veldt]

was that me

[burnt maple]

how could they not lift a laptop

[spice veldt]

exactly

i've opened many a jars

[lunar hollow]

arco has not given me the requested evidence

and thus it is unconfirmable if he can open a jar

[burnt maple]

was it like, a tag team situation or did you 1v1 the jar?

[spice veldt]

i 1v1ed it with a rag, my weapon of choice

jars are usually pretty easy to open

i find it to be a matter of getting the right grip and leverage on it

rather than any measure of strength

[burnt maple]

pfft just brain burst the jar

[lunar hollow]

i just fucking smash the jar against a countertop until it yields

[spice veldt]

i would just tell my mom to adjust her grip and she can then open it afterwards

[spice veldt]

angry bottom behavior

[lunar hollow]

no

[static lintel]

time to try it

[burnt maple]

are we even sure it's crit chance, though

[lunar hollow]

yes

[burnt maple]

it could be anything, it could be taxes

[lunar hollow]

we are

[spice veldt]

absolutely

true

20% more taxes

[lunar hollow]

just like im sure arco has weak, effeminate arms

its a universal constant

[spice veldt]

pretty weak confidence

the tooltip used to say crit chance for a while

they just broke it recently (well, this is the second time)

[lunar hollow]

theyve broken it repeatedly

[meager plinth]

its either that or arco is a bodybuilder, no inbetween

[spice veldt]

it's amazing how they do it

[spice veldt]

totally

since i clearly do not have weak arms, i am a bodybuilder

qed

[meager plinth]

alright, its canon now

[spice veldt]

what is canon

speak

i demand to know

[meager plinth]

bodybuilder arco redemption arc

[lunar hollow]

no bodybuilder would play psyker for a thousand hours

[meager plinth]

[lunar hollow]

its impossible

[spice veldt]

there's nothing for me to redeem

[meager plinth]

thats why its an arc

[spice veldt]

hmm at the end of it

that much I can agree with then

[spice veldt]

sure they would

proof: me

[meager plinth]

a psyker's biggest muscle is their brains

plural

[lunar hollow]

oh boy do i love my melk shop having plenty of psyker weapons in it

[oblique gulch]

which is better?

I'm sitting here racking my brain

I swap terrifying barrage for one or the other on either staff

[kind jay]

i like right more.

quell is whatever

[oblique gulch]

well yeah but the left has better blessings and perks

that is the reason I'm racking my brain

[dusk sierra]

seeing mixed reactions on bloodthirsty illisi - thoughts?

[safe crystal]

The one on the right IS better, but its a surge. The difference isnt that great between a low and a high roll

[kind jay]

right can have flak/cara which is perfectly fine

[oblique gulch]

true, but crit chance is also pog

fuck

[long osprey]

I like high charge rate on my staff

[oblique gulch]

yeah it's a miniscule difference

it's definitely nice

honestly I'm stumped

left has 30% crit chance and roll flak to full dmg

or unarmored

right has carapice and flak

25% crit

[kind jay]

very good with slaughterer

amazing even

use it myself and love it

[burnt maple]

is the crit it gives just the next attack ?

[kind jay]

yes but you can chain specials and they all are crit

on surge i don't value crit perk. i think front loaded damage is better for it's purpose

cara/flak shows it's power in hi5 stg

[burnt maple]

how are you supposed to use the Surge Staff? full charge then release? i find myself quelling a whole lot when i use it

[spice veldt]

you really only fully charge for the damage

[kind jay]

spam quick charge to build flurry then full charge till 100, ult and repeat

although it's easier with inner tranq. if you use warp unleashed just full charge

just do it for special packs and you're solid

no hordes

[oblique gulch]

you right tho

right is better

I lose 10% charge speed

for the extra dmg

which is a dub

both can be cara flak

so that doesn't really matter

[kind jay]

what i use

[oblique gulch]

yeah that's nice

mine will be 5% dmg off carapice and a tier 3 warp flurry instead

[kind jay]

i use inner tranq and battery but any combo with unleashed or flayer works

[oblique gulch]

still a super solid staff nonetheless

[kind jay]

you got a great roll

@olive ember would be proud

[dusk sierra]

Well damn 👀

[oblique gulch]

didn't roll it, game dropped it for me

[kind jay]

oh

praise the god emprah and all that

[oblique gulch]

I've been getting really lucky with drops

got like 4 different god rolls from em

[olive ember]

[pine relic]

You'd rather lose?

[burnt maple]

SMG for Ogyrn?? do they mean "SUCH MASSIVE GUN"?

oh you're the pskyer lol

[pine relic]

Gabriel here was using a Purgatus for hi int shock.

[safe crystal]

Wowee, such a bad weapon to bring when enemy density goes up!

[pine relic]

apparently, we would die to the poxwalkers instead of 100 mutants.

[safe crystal]

You would die to poxies? Thats not the weapons fault, its how it was used

Or the teams positioning

Or both

[pine relic]

Yes, he was very useful; that saved a lot of ammo for our zealot who didn't need to use his flamer.

[safe crystal]

Now you've lost me, what exactly was the problem here?

[pine relic]

I'm clearly being sarcastic.

[safe crystal]

Welp, woosh for me then i guess

[burnt maple]

purg is fine for Hi Shock, all of the staves can work

looks like he handled the hordes, which is what the purg staff is for

i dunno, if y'all completed the mission i don't see a problem

[pine relic]

Horde was never the issue. I joined the game in the middle, all three of them were dead, they didnt even make it to the first elevator

[burnt maple]

i'm pretty sure that's happened to all of us that have played enough lol

you saved the match, nice

if you're playing quickplay, it happens

you did really well with the specials/disablers from the screenshot/score

[pine relic]

You don't always get to be able to carry the game. If you want to complete the most difficult condition in this game, just use the most suitable weapon. I'm not really complaining, but he said it's boring. is it funnier to die in the first five minutes?

[safe crystal]

Autopistol is boring

Its like flamer (and purg,at least for me)

Fun for a bit, but it gets stale quickly

[pine relic]

Blame FS, the game is notoriously slow at updating content.

[safe crystal]

Im fully aware its really slow, i've almost managed to do something i rarely get to do

Finish my DnD character art on time because im waiting for more stuff in games i play

[burnt maple]

FF16 just came outif you need something to play

[pine relic]

Yeah, I'm gonna forget about Zealot and main Ogryn or Psyker.

[safe crystal]

Naah, my next game i'll pick up will be Baldurs Gate 3

[pine relic]

yeah, coming out next month.

[cyan portal]

You think purga is bad for histg?

[pine relic]

I do

I mean, it's not just bad, it's terrible hahaha

[tropic vigil]

Really? I feel like as long as it isn't double purg / flamer and you have good vets purg pretty good for histg

[cyan portal]

I can only assume you haven't seen purga played to its potential

[pine relic]

I had a map where AI spawned three dogs to chase me. tbh, I'd rather use a surge.

[hoary badge]

Does Purga lmb not stun dogs

[pine relic]

they came from three directions...

[hoary badge]

Honest question actually, I barely touched the staff after embracing Blaze Trauma

[pine relic]

I don't like carrying the game; I only hope my teammates could do more.

[spice veldt]

it does but it'll really only stagger once they're in their pouncing animation (LMB and RMB) or if they're on somebody (LMB)

purg is lacking in that department of having consistent stuns, but I wouldn't use that as a metric for saying it's shit

esp for pushing a map and killing patrols quickly

probably better in a premade though

[hoary badge]

So 360noscoping a charged stream should theoretically prevent pounces?

[spice veldt]

i wouldn't really bring a purg to pubs

[cyan portal]

Assuming the server doesn't jank out, yup

the trick to purga in histg is pushing the packs of pox bursters with lmb, once you have that down it is safe as houses