psyker-class

[ember hornet]

have you heard of

pinning fire

it's a good blessing

and on vet

that makes the bolter

like 350% bolter

[lunar hollow]

um actually its 200% bolter

[ember hornet]

no

[lunar hollow]

bitch

[ember hornet]

I realize you were being sarcastic

[lunar hollow]

lol

that made the joke a lot funnier than it was initially

thank u

[ember hornet]

if you use bleed nades with bolter you can kill like, 30+ reapers and crushers very quickly, quite funny

[lunar hollow]

i tried using a grenade to pre-stack pinning on 2 bulwarks

when i was going to revive someone

and then i checked the footage and it gave me a single stack of pinning fire

i felt so smart and tacticool and it was for basically nothing

😭

[fluid knot]

An after that said Veteran has two poxwalkers spawn behind him an he goes down on a ledge noone can get back up to and dies

[ember hornet]

usually if someone can use a bolter they can melee

usually

not really, it's pretty weak rn

[lunar hollow]

its usable

[ember hornet]

I wouldn't give up a week of shops for it

[lunar hollow]

like theres a niche for it

[spice veldt]

i think it's mostly fine; though it's also a staff that doesn't really require blessings/perks to do what it needs to do

I wouldn't waste milk bottles on a surge staff

[lunar hollow]

but if u mainly play public lobbies i probably wouldnt bother with the weapon

[ember hornet]

also true

[karmic delta]

nice jab

[spice veldt]

i try my best

[fathom adder]

Surge Staff is not a weapon, it's a CC tool for melee psyker builds. It's very good at that

[thick carbon]

and it melts carapace/flak

and stuns muties

nothing else does that second part

that I know of at least

[fathom adder]

However, when you bring the surge staff the map is 90% dregs

[faint sigil]

The dregs die to melee like the rest

[thick carbon]

exactly. ez

[steel flame]

Ah peace has returned to psyker Chat

[granite plaza]

is Claysthetics perks/blessings recs considered BiS for psyker staffs?

https://i.imgur.com/Uos0pQ6.jpg

[cyan moth]

Surge is my favorite staff because I like the support role it offers

[steel flame]

i mean if i could read it i could tell you

[cyan moth]

Eh l

If you know how to dodge

[steel flame]

i guess they are close enough

[cyan moth]

Deflector is kinda useless

Imo

I thought it was really good but once I learned how the movement system works I really don't

Use it

[fluid knot]

I second that, Deflector is mid at best

[cyan moth]

Like I use bloodthirsty on my force weapons

At least the uhh..

[elfin nexus]

dont ever listen to that claysthetics guy hes a clown

[cyan moth]

Illis?

Whatever it's called

[steel flame]

oh god chaos has returned

[fluid knot]

fear me!

[cyan moth]

But it's 100% crit chance on special activation

And it's really good on hoards

But yeah everything else looks okay?

[steel flame]

he did say staves

[cyan moth]

Although

On the weapons with the 2-5% crit chance

I honestly feel like that offers little to nothing

And there are better ones out there

[fluid knot]

Point still stands, Claythestics opinions are even barmier than mine are

[cyan moth]

Like for the surge and las pistol

[steel flame]

.....i what...what does that even mean

[cyan moth]

I'd go crit damage if anything

[steel flame]

da fuck is barmier

[fluid knot]

British word for madder you uncultured swine

[steel flame]

if it wasnt a real word id say you just made it up

[fluid knot]

Yes. And its horrendous.

[granite plaza]

does that mean kinetic shield>kinetic deflection

[cyan moth]

Yes

I'd say so

[steel flame]

ah good to see some things never change

thanks milk

[fluid knot]

Ooof

[burnt maple]

does terrifying barrage even do anything/ i thought it only works on dreg/scab shooters and even then for just like a half second

[steel flame]

really puttin the effort into your aquisitions

[fluid knot]

Not really mate no

There are better choices

[burnt maple]

why would he say that's BIS for purg lol

[fluid knot]

It'll save you getting bonked quite so frequently

But it doesnt add a huge amount

[burnt maple]

i have warp nexus/flurry on mine

it'd be nice if focused channeling and transfer peril were feats

[fluid knot]

I dunno what you'd swap out for focused, peril transfer is good though

[burnt maple]

oh i mean as one feat

[fluid knot]

Yeah nah i got that, but what would yo take out for it/them?

[burnt maple]

hmm thats a good question

the second talent tier

probably

[fluid knot]

🤨

I mean i kinda get it for Wrack an Ruin, but not the other two choices

[spice veldt]

i'd prob move the functionality of focused channeling into mind in motion

[river dawn]

Can this be saved at all or its useless?

[polar grail]

What are the 5 rusted spires?

[fluid knot]

Swap out Block to either Flak or Maniac (Maniac will let you one bang muties with H2, but it can be finnicky) Swap Executor for Slaughterer. Though not perfect, it will be more than workable

[steel flame]

can we talk about how its been a week since the update and swapping weapons in mission lobby is still fucked

[fluid knot]

really hoping they fix that with the next patch

[burnt maple]

just be glad its your inventory and it doesn' tjust swap players whole kits with eachother lol

[steel flame]

please dont jinx it

dont speak that evil into existence

[burnt maple]

purgation ogyrn

[fluid knot]

that could potentially make for some very interesting games though if it randomly assigned gear to characters or swapped loadouts onto the wrong classes

Bet it could be manipulated too

[burnt maple]

when is the last time fatshark did something fun for us

just because it'd be fun

[fluid knot]

Uhhh... when we got the Illisi and Deimos

[burnt maple]

that's not the kind of fun i mean

that's just content

and it's just as annoying and frustrating rolling a good one as any other

[fluid knot]

They're fun to play wit tho

[burnt maple]

like what if ascedent blaze and/or wildfire would make the targets explode on death and spread even more fire

things like that, just cause it'd be fun to see/do

[fluid knot]

Flamer has a blessing that does that iirc, but its such a small chance to proc its largely irrelevant :/

"Showstopper" i think its called

[burnt maple]

the last thing i can think of was the shirtless bug

and they fixed it

[fluid knot]

I mean if you're playing for funny bugs might i suggest Cyberpunk?

[burnt maple]

i'd like to be able to play, thoughlol

[river dawn]

Oh cool :D Will do that thanks a lot ^^

[fluid knot]

o7

[pallid smelt]

best blessings for illisi?

[karmic delta]

Slaughterer and

[burnt maple]

Run and Gun, for sure

[karmic delta]

Executor

Since the wide horizontals are already good

[safe crystal]

Slaughterer and unstable power if you're confident in sliding, deflector if not. Executor gets reset every time you use your special, so its not that good, whereas unstable power is a 20% power boost at 80 peril, and deflector is just good QoL early on, when you're still learning the movement of the game

[karmic delta]

Didnt know that about Executor resetting. Thanks for correcting me

[ornate hamlet]

It's why chain stuff is generally meh

You get outliers like decimator stacking per hit on a weapon that can get infinite cleave, but there's usually better stuff

Executor is pretty pog on knife

On FS, where you have slaughterer, it's meh

[near wyvern]

On a counter point you do loose the Unstable power bonus rather quickly because of Battle Meditation as Illisi is a death machine

But yeah you usually have Unstable Power for the initial hits and then Slaughterer takes over so you don't have to worry about break points

[pallid smelt]

executor no good on illisi?

[karmic delta]

I think I have my Illisi on Slaughterer and Unstable Power

[near wyvern]

It's fine but you want to meet some poxie break points for sure if you go that route. Slaughterer is best in slot so do not replace that one with it

[karmic delta]

Though Im more a Deimos kind of guy with Slaughterer and the rending blessing. What's it called again?

[near wyvern]

Do not use uncanny strike on force swords

[cosmic sigil]

I'm using unstable on a 60 warp resist with Illisi... I'd rather have it on a 40 or below one.

[pallid smelt]

why?

[near wyvern]

All force swords have their best DPS on heavies which ignore all other armour types other than carapace (mauler head, crusher everything).

You only benefit from rending on attacks that deal less than the base damage.

[karmic delta]

Really the only use I got out of Uncanny is spamming Deimos L1 on a Crusher or Mauler's head

Since Slaughterer is already busted as is

[cosmic sigil]

To the point I'm considering putting executor instead

[near wyvern]

Why would you spam L1 on Deimos when you have H2. The only reason to use the L1 is to access H2

[pallid smelt]

what should i replace uncanny strike with

[karmic delta]

Faster to spam it

[cosmic sigil]

Change melee weakspot

[near wyvern]

H2 just hits like a truck

[cosmic sigil]

It doesn't help you at all

[pallid smelt]

what should i swap it to?

[near wyvern]

And on another note you shouldn't really melee a crusher in the first place

For Deimos? Unstable Power

[spice veldt]

I like +Flak as the second perk

[cosmic sigil]

Flak, or elite.

[karmic delta]

I pair Deimos with Trauma and Trauma is where I already spent most of my time on Psyjer

[cosmic sigil]

But probably flak

[karmic delta]

Its surprisingly effective ngl

Though I do just prefer to Trauma them

[cosmic sigil]

For the quick swap l1h2 after hitting max peril on your staff?

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10?start=36

[fluid knot]

*Unless doing Soulblaze memes

[near wyvern]

That should answer your Unstable Power on Deimos questions

The part of the video I linked

[near wyvern]

Even more so if you have Trauma you shouldn't be on the melee range of a crusher unless it's very safe (and at that point you can finish it with the special, the only time you can a actually use the special on it)

[near wyvern]

What has uncanny strike to do with Soulblaze memes? You need Shred or bloodthirsty (a lot worse than you would think)

[karmic delta]

Its not like I have a choice to be on melee range against Crushers if Im on a bad position

But then again Trauma just tumbles all that mass

[near wyvern]

If you have Trauma you do have a choice

[south zephyr]

Worth getting from melk? swap out stam for flak, RnG for Nexus?

[karmic delta]

😭

Not in that one time.

[near wyvern]

@karmic delta you always have 2 options with trauma + Deimos, either trauma your way out (video, learn to quell cancel) or pull out your force sword and spam push dodge push dodge push dodge out of there

https://youtu.be/CWUnfFfvB4o

[karmic delta]

Luckily my Staff will protect me

[karmic delta]

Yeah thats what I do yeah

[near wyvern]

If you have time to hit a crusher head it means you have time to pull sword (instant) and dodge out of there

Uncanny Strike is not something that makes you live longer

[karmic delta]

Not at that one time my back was against a wall no 😭

[near wyvern]

Trauma and then pull out sword

[fluid knot]

So what happens is when you proc uncanny, anything with Soulblaze stacks currently on it has its armour debuffed by Uncanny. (Maniac, Flak and Carapace), You can wipe whole Crusher squads by burning them and bonking one on the dome a couple times, this can easily quadruple the damage of any applied soulblaze (on armoured targets)

[karmic delta]

This is the part where I so wish to record my gameplay

Alas. I do not xd

[near wyvern]

Crushers that land on their arse have 3 second stagger immunity after they get up but it takes like 3 or 4 seconds for them to get up so you can be elsewhere by that time

[karmic delta]

So it's hard to explain all the relevant context

Let us end this now before misunderstanding each other 🙏

[elfin nexus]

spent an entire match just playing melee illisi and managed to get the untouchable penance from it lol

such a goated weapon

[near wyvern]

Lmao

• Firstly, there is no way to keep up the rending and the soulblaze you can do only the other
• Secondly, the easiest rending to keep up is Trauma's rending shockwave but it caps at +40%
• Thirdly, even with 100% rending (full uncanny strike) a 6 stack AB will not be even close enough to kill a crusher if you manage to keep it up

[fluid knot]

Go an test it

Its actually really quite cracked

[near wyvern]

I have tested it, it's really sweaty to try to get it work with stationary opponents in meat grinder which means it's never going to work in a real game

[fluid knot]

Uhh you are kidding right?

[near wyvern]

You could just pull out a shredder with pinning fire and be done with it

[fluid knot]

You can spawn in like 20 crushers and burn them all to death simply by proc'ing Uncanny on one

Its really cool tech

[near wyvern]

The max amount you are ever going to get is 8 at a time and even then all you need is a trauma to trivialize them

[fluid knot]

Man, go test it

[near wyvern]

You should save that 6 stack AB for when the shit hits the fan

[fluid knot]

We've been utilising this for a while now, an its absurd how effective it can be

Quadruple, if not more the damage of the blaze on all targets with DoTs by proc'ing Uncanny on ONE enemy

If you think thats sweaty to do, you literally havent tested it and are talking fluff

[lunar hollow]

what weapons are u using

pygex seems to be talking about trauma but this sounds like something u would need purg for

[near wyvern]

Rending with Soulblaze only affects crushers, nothing else

[fluid knot]

We've labbed this extensively. Use Purge to apply Soulblaze, bonk Crusher on dome, watch all armoured targets evaporate.

[lunar hollow]

this follows the same general logic as using flamer and zealot F (though, the armor pen on zealot F is wholly unique in that for the purposes of damage numbers, it treats carapace as flak and flak as unarmored) in order to 1-mag any non-boss enemies

[near wyvern]

If that truly increases damage on other targets then there is a bug somewhere, since the last time I tested only crusher has armour against Soulblaze

[lunar hollow]

although yeah, it only really does anything for soulblaze vs carapace

[near wyvern]

6 stack AB kills all trash anyways

[fluid knot]

It very much might well be a bug, but the tech is seriously powerful. We did a run with one Trauma wi/Rending shockwave and one Purge, we didnt have to swap our weapons once though the whole run

We didn even need to use Uncanny doing that

Using Uncanny just means you're self sufficient with it

[lunar hollow]

uncanny would be significantly more damaging

because brittleness caps at 40%

and rending doesn't

[fluid knot]

Yep, so that should tell you how effective it is

[near wyvern]

Even funnier if you do both since they stack additively

[fluid knot]

Potentially, we didnt actually test it with both active together, but its a tech people should be aware of

[near wyvern]

But only on targets with less than base damage in the frist place

[fluid knot]

V helpful in situations where you need to clutch for example

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/zpMkDk1_HwQ

[fluid knot]

Wrong video mayhaps? Thats just you dumping Trauma into poxies

[lunar hollow]

i think rending itself can go over 100%

[fluid knot]

Oh never mind, thats bizzare, i opened it via link an it showed a different clip

[lunar hollow]

because u can use unncany strike and i think ruthless backstab

and u get 140% rending

[near wyvern]

Yeah I deleted and reposted

[lunar hollow]

or 150% at t4 both

[fluid knot]

Ahh gotcha, ye interesting, that makes it even more cracked then lmao

[near wyvern]

Brittleness you get to max regardless of tier but yes with uncanny 4 and any tier of shockwave given enough hits it's 150%, but only on targets that take less than base damage in the first place

For shockwave the only difference is that with a T4 you can max it out in one hit

For the brittleness

[pallid smelt]

do i swap headhunter for ghost?

[fluid knot]

Sir, this is Psyker chat

[pallid smelt]

im playing psyker lol

[fluid knot]

🤨

[lunar hollow]

[cyan moth]

Yes

[pallid smelt]

kool

[cyan moth]

:D

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/eqzfkr

this is uh

probably a lot faster if u have t4 uncanny instead of t3 like i have

and any amount of braincells cuz i kinda just did whatever i felt like

[pallid smelt]

what goes here instead of uncanny?

[fluid knot]

Cool eh?

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector or unstable power, depending on how comfortable you are with your damage and with shooters, as well as if you even care to keep managing peril to raise your damage a bit more when you can already do 75% more of it and that's a massive amount

[south zephyr]

It's a good thing damage stat isn't important on Purge... cause uh, yeah

[near wyvern]

Slow AF

Plus you have no control over them while you are doing it

[south zephyr]

perfect example of a dumped stat

[harsh cobalt]

what are the favored curios on psyker these days? I fell out of the game for a while, and just rocking toughness and health by inertia

[cyan moth]

Depends on your play style Ngl

And what feats you picked

[harsh cobalt]

also, what's the brief rundown on differences between force swords? Guessing deimos is better for single target, obscurus has cleave on heavy, and third one?

[safe crystal]

Curios are personal preference. I run 2 toughness 1 hp, some people run 3 toughness, some run 2 tough/health 1 stamina

[harsh cobalt]

it's really just the movesets, right?

[cyan moth]

Yeah kinda

[safe crystal]

Illisi is a force powersword

[cyan moth]

^

It's my favorite of the three Ngl

Only because of the crowd clearing potential

It's so good

[harsh cobalt]

I see illisi has two cleaving heavies

[cyan moth]

Ye

[harsh cobalt]

I think when game dropped we only had obscurus, right? I don't remember the other two

[cyan moth]

Yeah no it was just the one

And it's still pretty good Ngl

[safe crystal]

Obscurus was the OG,yes

Its overshadowed by the others being great

[harsh cobalt]

I've found deimos in the store, and been using it a bit. It's alright, and the harpoon tip kinda looks funky

[safe crystal]

Its somewhere in the middle

[cyan moth]

It's very single target but can do a little of both

[harsh cobalt]

although, deimos has a tiny bit of cleave I feel. It has a diagonal slash in it's light combo. But it's obviously not a reliable horde killer

I still don't quite understand push attack on force swords tbh. It feels unreliable

[spice veldt]

the push-attack is a single-target strong stagger

it's able to knock crushers to the ground

[steel flame]

With slaughterer it clears hordes just fine actually, just isn't as overkill as illi

[pallid smelt]

Push feels mad op to me

can just shove my way thru anythjing

[cyan notch]

it has pretty short range and only hits 1 thing

[harsh cobalt]

I probably need more time with it to understand it, because it feels strange

[spice veldt]

it's fairly niche; I personally only use it against ragers and mauler/crushers that are invading my space

[harsh cobalt]

I really don't find myself pushing a lot on psyker, I usually manage my whatitsname warp meter decent enough that I have my skill as an oh shit crowd control ready

[steel flame]

Oh @near wyvern I'm trying for a mega meme build with surge void staff spam. Just gotta find a void surge staff

https://streamable.com/hej4n0

[near wyvern]

Obscurus was made obsolete by Deimos and Illisi.

Illisi is your horde focused one, always have it with a Slaughterer, the special on it deals good single target burst damage as well but heavy heavy is the top DPS (single and multi target) option. Against hordes you might want to use heavy light combo as it's a bit safer and perfectly horizontal but you loose out on some DPS compared to heavy heavy or light spam if you really gotta focus on dodging.

Deimos is the single target focused one where all your damage comes from the 2nd heavy. Ways to access it are:

• light heavy, repeat
• push into heavy
• push attack into heavy
• heavy heavy (don't use)

For Deimos you want Unstable Power and +Maniac so you can one tap mutant heads with that 2nd heavy like in the vide below. If you also want some horde clear on it, the light spam works wonders with Slaughterer. In other case you want to funnel the enemies in and light heavy repeat them to death.

With guns and surge, use Illisi. With Void use either Illisi or Deimos and finally with Purge and Trauma use Deimos. The Illisi and Deimos force swords are out performing all other melee weapons at the moment.

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10?start=36

[steel flame]

I gotta expand my horizons ya know?

[near wyvern]

Aye

Some people like to ride to the eye of the storm. I call it natural selection.

[cyan moth]

What in gods names??

How...

[near wyvern]

Quell cancel

If you don't know how to quell cancel you should learn

The only way for void to get back to BB fast since it's still missing the cast finish -> BB hands animation chain

Other staves have the animation link so all you gotta do is swap to hands, but still quell cancelling is extremely useful on all staves, a bit less on purgatus

@steel flame imagine if surge had surge blessing, could actually make warp nexus + surge quell cancel LMB an option

[steel flame]

It would be so good

Stuns into machine gun finishers

[near wyvern]

And with the base crit on it

[steel flame]

And the m1 gets the boosted crit chance

[safe crystal]

Blessings that benefit from crit, on my crit staff?!

[near wyvern]

The only thing with surge blessing is that you gotta be careful with the quell cancel timing. If you do it too early you will cancel the bonus shot on a crit.

[steel flame]

Actually no

I made a macro to test just how fast quell canceling could go and surge was still triggering on 1ms intervals

[cyan moth]

What..I

I must LEARN this POWER

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pointing-not-scientifically-possible-gif-14882344

[steel flame]

There is an input buffer. You can only make it go so fast.

[cyan moth]

There a guide?

[steel flame]

What you see in the clip is the max speed you can eek out of quell canceling

[cyan moth]

I just made a new psyker and I wanna try this lmao

[steel flame]

It's such a meme most people never bothered to document it

You basically need to be hitting m1 as soon as you hit r and try to stay in rhythm to keep the speed going

[cyan moth]

Fuck

[cyan moth]

Can I bind it???

Like

Quell to the same button

[steel flame]

.......no?...

[polar grail]

me gonna try it

[steel flame]

Lol

[polar grail]

It isint that bad

imagine pulling it off in a real match is alot harder

[fluid knot]

You kinda need T4 Uncanny, but it becomes more an more effective the more armoured enemies you have burning

[near wyvern]

Quelling input takes precedence over casting so no.

The input precedence is quell > cast > channel. So when playing with flurry staves you never have to let go RMB, just keep holding it and use LMB to cast and quell button to quell while holding RMB.

[polar grail]

https://youtu.be/YxfaDXofPKg

It feels easiest to be focusing on your r key imo

Like clicking right after you know its been pressed

im a bit better off cam because im camera shy uwu

[near wyvern]

@steel flame you owe me an apology

https://youtu.be/fL0JTGPvqwk

@polar grail the quell cancel timing differs between each staves so you gotta learn them all

well surge, trauma and void has the same LMB timing but other than that

[polar grail]

I see I see

also quick shadow wizard money gang question

but is there ever a good reason to use the obscuras swords special attack?

[worn canopy]

This is still in the game?

[polar grail]

like wouldn't it almost always be better to just brain burst, its only tiny bit longer and seems to always do much more damage, unless its just due to me having low level swords

[near wyvern]

Let's begin with that there is never any reason to use the Obscurus sword

[compact cargo]

Only for m1 now

[near wyvern]

And then to answer the question of if the special on it is ever used (Deimos has the same special so it's a relevant question):

Outside of finishing off the last elite when the fight is over, no, you never use the special.

[near wyvern]

This is not true

[compact cargo]

M2 voidstrike canceling is no more

[polar grail]

Alright, also its the only one I have atm since I just started my shadow wizard money gang journey

[compact cargo]

Was fixed ages ago

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

Just take a look a couple messages ago on that video

Also, quell cancelling on good allows you to access BB a lot faster after a cast of RMB

[compact cargo]

This is not the old m2 voidstrike cancel.

Not even close lol

Let me go fetch the vid

[near wyvern]

Not being able to constantly spit out balls is not the same as quell cancelling not existing

[compact cargo]

We are talking about the "end lag" cancel on the staff, I claimed "only for m1 now", then said m2 voidstrike cancel is no more, the old ball machine gun

https://youtu.be/kaF6_PMLkgY

Your own vid ^^

since mine was deleted, thanks streamable

[near wyvern]

@compact cargo recorded this a couple minutes ago

https://streamable.com/325n0i

8 minutes ago to be exact

[compact cargo]

How.

[near wyvern]

quell cancel

[compact cargo]

Ain't working for me

[spice veldt]

the timing for voidstrike RMB is different from the LMB

[near wyvern]

hold RMB to make it work on RMB

this works for both

[compact cargo]

Should work with the old macro then

[cyan moth]

I wonder if I can bind quell to

Mouse 4

So I can move and shit effectively

Hmmm

[spice veldt]

yeah you can

[cyan moth]

Fuck yesss

[spice veldt]

I personally have the Multiple Keybinds mod, so I've got quell bound to 'V' and mouse5

[cyan moth]

Ima try it when I'm done dealing with stupid people doing stupid things

[harsh urchin]

you need crouch on m4 tho

to slide

[compact cargo]

Old macro ain't working, but works on manual, great job and nice to see fatshark using old patch

[near wyvern]

Just fix your timings

[spice veldt]

depends; if you've got dodge/sprint on the same key, you can usually afford to have crouch on either shift or one of the keys that your thumb can access

I personally have dodge/sprint on 'Shift' and crouch on 'C'

[near wyvern]

Or then just have a mouse with extra keys

[spice veldt]

200iq

[harsh urchin]

i like to have a minimalist mouse lmao

thanks for reminding me tho

[near wyvern]

Logitech G502, any version, can recommend. Good sensor, on board memory and just enough extra buttons but not too many.

[harsh urchin]

i should order another copy

of my current mouse

i didn't like g502

was too heavy for me

[near wyvern]

I have had a lot of sensor issues with Razers. Used to have a Hex and Hex 2 buth had to move on due to sensor and software issues.

Logitech software is not the best but at least it works.

[near wyvern]

Even with no weights? I use mine without any weights.

[harsh urchin]

ye

even baseline was a bit heavy for my taste

i'm currently using the glorious o

[near wyvern]

Welp, it's a subjective experience so can't argue with that

[cold geode]

currently using the steelseries aerox 9 wireless, the software easy to use for creating macros and its an "mmo mouse" so an extra 12 side buttons, also really light

https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/aerox-9-wireless

[cosmic sigil]

i put crouch + dodge on m4 and activation special on m5

quell / reload is one the wheel

[harsh gust]

are obscurus still good?

[fluid knot]

Its useable, but its massively outclassed by the other two FS's

[harsh gust]

o well, i get to save money for another day

[graceful eagle]

it wasnt good even when it was only available force sword

[feral verge]

Nah, obscurus is good

Just outmoded by Deimos and illisi now

But obscurus was always good.

Infinite dodges

[fluid knot]

Trouble with Obscurus is it dont know what it wants to be

Its like half wide swings an half single target

Weird sword

[hearty python]

@fluid knot it's a generalist, can take on armor and elites as well as hordes pretty well

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but so can illisi an deimos, they just both do both parts better

[smoky wigeon]

The revolver. Yay or nay? I'm enjoying it...

[vernal tulip]

does demonhost count for malleus monstronum penance?

[safe crystal]

Yes

[vernal tulip]

ok i did it in a private game but we didn't got it for demonhost

maybe bots fked us then

[safe crystal]

Revolver falls off when you go into higher difficulties. It doesnt deal enough damage for the amount of ammo you get for it, and the damage tables are fucked against some enemies. Dreg ragers, for example, take less damage from a critical weakspot hit than a critical bodyshot hit

It just doesnt deal enough damage on the higher difficulties

[fluid knot]

Yay on Zealot, ney on Vet an Psyker

[steel flame]

I don't have a surge void so I can't test the M2. I thought you were talking about it canceling the m1 second cast

Unless I was reading the damage numbers wrong I was still getting the second m1 even at the cap

[karmic delta]

Did you get the killing blow?

[steel flame]

@near wyvern when I get back in the game I will test the M1 again

[vernal tulip]

anyone wanna help me run a private game to try and get malleus monstronum penance ?

[acoustic holly]

Is this usable?

got plasteel to go for orange but idk about the blessings

which and for what to swap

[karmic delta]

I'd say swap Shred for Slaughterer

[near wyvern]

Until you get a better one, sure. Don't throw this one away tho, in case they decide to remove the locks at some point.

Replace Executor with Unstable Power

@fluid knot

I tested again. Soulblaze does not benefit from rending/brittleness except against Crushers like I said. The fact that it melts other armoured targets is just because it deals 1.5x damage against flak, nothing to do with rending.

A single 6 stack AB only scratches the crushers. You basically need full staff stacks + AB on the crushers to have them get killed while smashing uncanny strike and that is the only use case for the uncanny strike. Even then, you need a 6+ stack of crushers with something you can safely bash on a head to get some benefits, so a very extremely specific scenario to get some value out of a blessing.

On top of that, I did not manage to solo 6 crushers with aggro while using the strategy, simply because it's unsafe to try to keep up the uncanny strike together with Soulblaze.

For these reasons, I don't believe uncanny strike is any good, you would be better off with something else, like deflector, slaughterer or unstable power.

I challenge you to complete a challenge and prove me wrong.

I made a baseline version of a "6 pack crusher challenge" which has two parts (A and B). This was done with my regular build so nothing there increases my damage against crushers specifically. Yes, you might do the part A a tiny bit easier with uncanny strike and +carapace damage, but by trying to complete it you can see how risky it is to go for constant melee hits, and there is no way to keep up the flames.

https://youtu.be/6FWsvgfL_HM

[fluid knot]

Why are you so fixated on AB?

Its literaly an interaction you use with Purga, not AB

[near wyvern]

Feel free to try part A with purga

Teach me a lesson

[fluid knot]

You're literally telling me it doesnt work when trying to do it with a sub optimal setup which is either being deliberately disengenous or you really dont want to actually try it, i'll not waste my time here any longer thanks pal

[near wyvern]

I am telling you I did it with no specific setup and telling you to do it with the optimal setup using the strategy you suggested, cause I tried that setup and couldn't do it.

[worn canopy]

Thanks for the testing

[chrome arch]

Dear Siblings,
Does Deimos need +25 maniac to 1 shot mutie with followup heavy stab?

[mental rock]

Depends on your stats and feats

[chrome arch]

I see

Finesse is it?

[mental rock]

Damage and first hit are most important

[chrome arch]

It has 80dmg 80first target

[mental rock]

For the one ahot

[chrome arch]

Should I not get terrible blessings (it is white for now)

[near wyvern]

No, +20 maniac will also do, most important thing is to have Warp Unleashed and Unstable power 3 or 4 on it as well.

It's just the more buffs you have (warp charges, maniac damage perk, special damage perk...) the less peril you need for the one shot. Also depends on the rolls of the sword.

[chrome arch]

I actually counted in at least 4 stacks and having WU

Sorry for not specifying

If not 6 stax ofc

Sooo no need for 25 maniac?

[near wyvern]

+20 is fine as well

[chrome arch]

Gotcha

So better to have it

[near wyvern]

But you kinda want to have a +maniac perk on it

[chrome arch]

Doubt I will get that both maniac and carapace

But one-shotting muties is too meme not to do

[near wyvern]

Carapace is not needed. Don't try to melee crushers and maulers unless you have to.

[chrome arch]

Uncanny strike combo can 3hit crushers no?

[near wyvern]

And for maulers the 2nd heavy still does wonders on a head without +carapace

[chrome arch]

Gotcha

Thank you Sibling

Now to get 1500ish plasteel (my psyker is broke)

[near wyvern]

Doesn't matter. Check part A here and try it yourself. Learning of the lesson: don't try to melee them unless you have to.

https://youtu.be/6FWsvgfL_HM

Edited to include the link instead of the title lol

You have always BB with you so if your ranged weapon is not good, get out of melee range and BB.

[cyan portal]

Oooo, I can do this. Vid with much worse editing incoming

[cyan portal]

It is processing, will link when it is watchable. 32 seconds vs hostile, 15 seconds vs passive.

[smoky wigeon]

Man

I legit have been STRUGGLING forever with range on my Psyker

Can't gel well with the staves

Was diggin the revolver was pretty cool but doesnt scale well to higher difficilties apparently :/

[tropic vigil]

Voidstrike can help with range a little otherwise you just need to practice positioning. And don't be afraid to use ulti to even stagger groups of shooters if you need to move closer or somewhere safer.

[cyan portal]

Or find a team that doesn't aggro everything at max range

[tropic vigil]

Problem with range enemies is there's a night and day difference between having capable vets who annihilate shooters, and vets who wait until they're being targeted

[fluid knot]

[tropic vigil]

Real

[grizzled jasper]

had a autopistol vet who shot everything including crushers

i respect that

[cyan portal]

If you find a vet that will hold off until you're in purgatus range you can easily just burn them all to death before they can fire back. Good luck finding a vet with restraint though

[tropic vigil]

Yeah it can be tough. I don't mind breaking los and just waiting a few seconds but consistently being pelleted in the back is annoying. You do get the good vets that don't miss and do a good job cleaning up once in a while though.

But there's been too many times were you just kinda have to cower and spam bb for a minute

[cyan portal]

Do you use deflector? Allows you to close the gap and get an ult off to then finish them off

[tropic vigil]

I did a while ago but have since swapped to slaughter/unstable.

[cyan portal]

That's probably your issue then, it forces you to be very positionally defensive.

[harsh walrus]

What do I gain from Warp Nexus?

[cyan portal]

crit, not a good staff though so unless you're ripping a blessing save your milk

[harsh walrus]

That's what I both though and were afraid of 😦

[cyan portal]

nexus is BiS though, so if you don't have it then it is good to learn the blessing

pretty rare to see anything worth buying from milk, so dont worry about saving the currency

[harsh walrus]

It's better to view it as spending the currency for the blessing more than anything else?

[cyan portal]

yup

[harsh walrus]

Cause my weapons are already pretty good

Rocking 500+ with the ones I have

[cyan portal]

I have like 50k milk bucks, rare to see anything actually good, so any progress is worth using the currency

[harsh walrus]

lol 😅 aight, cheers

[cyan portal]

for pysker you'll get most of your godly weapons from brunts rngarmory

[harsh walrus]

Felt like a poketrainer collecting blessings

[smoky wigeon]

How do I even know when I update a weapon it'll hit 500+

[harsh walrus]

you start with gray with good stats

then upgrade and pray

[smoky wigeon]

Oh if all the percentages are like 80 or something it adds up to 500?

[harsh walrus]

in game atm, I can link and explain after 🙂

[royal hollow]

Protip : You can eat a snickers and you instantlly quell your peril to 0%

[smoky wigeon]

@harsh walrus thanks just a little confused

[severe peak]

Horg is wondering, what is best staff for use on crushers?

When playing as spark ‘ead, horg has the most trouble with 6 large lads walking up and removing me from the game

[faint sigil]

Either godroll trauma or surge

[tropic vigil]

Base stats will have a total number up to 380, then perks have a number based on their level (1-4), then blessings get a number based on level (also 1-4)

So highest you can start with is gray at 380 but depending on what it is and what dump stats it can be lower. Then just add for whichever perks and blessings Hadron feels like giving you.

[tropic vigil]

Trauma is goof AFAIK I haven't actually used it myself, surge is good assuming your team is there to kill them. Otherwise you can just force shove them to the ground and get enough space to bb.

[harsh walrus]

@smoky wigeon base weapons stats are max 380, then you get "points" from blessing and perks

[near wyvern]

Is it watchable?

[harsh walrus]

It all adds up to 400-550ish

Check earlier pic for reference

[cyan portal]

Still processing, youtube must be busy today. Short vid so surely it will be done soon

[smoky wigeon]

@harsh walrus I see. So if the percentages are all really high it'll have a better chance of being 500 plus?

[near wyvern]

Surge and trauma both work. Surge has the problem of RNG targetting for secondary targets but it deals ok'ish damage to crushers.

Trauma is more effective in killing them but you gotta learn how to use it since when you apply a strong stagger or a knock down on them they will be immune to all staggers 3 seconds AFTER they recover. So the best option is to blast, use your three dodges, then blast again once they are close. Blast too early and they don't get staggered and you will chuckle in danger.

[severe peak]

Thank, not a problem with 2-3 random crushers but the 9 man crusher patrol is a lot of hp to get through

[near wyvern]

Yeah you gotta learn to quell cancel for that

[severe peak]

Would trust team to help, but only quickplay, and don’t trust teammate to have any anti armor options

[spice veldt]

yeah, trauma is the generalist option

[near wyvern]

And in that kind of situation always use your dodges in bursts. I strongly recommend installing numerical UI and enabling the dodge counter. Personally, I have everything else disabled from Numerical UI other than the dodge count and ammo colour for self.

[severe peak]

Already have my game kitted with mods, all the bells and whistles

[harsh walrus]

@smoky wigeon The stats have no inpact on when you upgrade it

it's all RNG after you start with the gray

[near wyvern]

This is why I use nexus spirit trauma. It's the most generalist staff you can get. Combined with Deimos mutant one shot there are no enemies I cannot handle.

[harsh walrus]

If you upgrade to green and get a 4/4 perk, then blue with a 3-4lvl blessing it's a very good chance

[near wyvern]

If you are talking about crafting this doesn't seem to be the case but don't have raw data to back it up, only personal experience

[harsh walrus]

hit me up in private if you need more help

[near wyvern]

High base weapons tend to roll higher perks and blessings on them

[smoky wigeon]

@harsh walrus okay. Well. Hm. I see. But at least if the percentages are all high that's a good start...

What's the dump stat on psykers weapons? And like the force swords

[harsh walrus]

yes, but "tends" is the word 😅 theres a higher chance, but still all chance

[severe peak]

In that situation would you be using your staff more often on the trash mobs and using sword as more of an elite killer?

[near wyvern]

Depends on the weapon and blessing combo you are going for. For force swords thats the warp resist. No need for it.

[near wyvern]

I pretty much only pull out the sword when there is a mutant incoming or to finish off a debunced hound.

I quell cancel a shit ton and have quietitude so my toughness and crit chance both benefit for generating unnecessary peril. Even my sword likes it (unstable power).

If there is an elite or specialist that I threw on my feet I might stab it to the head but most often I just keep the trauma blasting

[severe peak]

Horg likes illis, can still one shot hounds and kill mutants reliably after 1 bb

[spice veldt]

I run a non-blazing spirit trauma and pair it with the Illisi. I prefer to melee in most cases because the stagger of Trauma is both a blessing and a curse, sometimes being a bit much in certain situations.

[severe peak]

Illis takes care of pouncing hounds in an emergency great with a well timed swing

Very fun

[near wyvern]

I use Illisi with guns and surge staff. But mostly I play with my Trauma + Deimos, it's nice for those hi intense shock troop missions where you can get a mutant train incoming. No time to BB all of them.

[placid sorrel]

tried something new today, deflector illisi and autopistol, other than my usual deimos and void... it's really cool... feel like a jedi

[harsh walrus]

I like illis if im going surge staff, cause then the sword is nice to pull out for clearing hordes and general terms. if going purgatus I loke Deimor for more singletarget dmg (playing on damnation)

[smoky wigeon]

I enjoy using my melee as psykers way more than ranged. Idk if that's not the right way to play

[severe peak]

What do you run on your deimos?

[severe peak]

Right way to play is the fun way

[spice veldt]

in terms of optimality, having a melee focus isn't too far off especially with the existence of the illisi

i do find myself being too conservative with my staff though, getting killed because I was worrying about the trauma's stagger when I should've been worried about not dying

[smoky wigeon]

I rarely die. I have been playing Revolver / Illisi sword

Only on Malice difficulty so far. Only lvl 22.

But I really love the revolver. Feels so..COOL

[harsh walrus]

it is, but if suffers in hi-intensity damnation. too many elites too fast

and you will have to get consistent headshots

It's very fun to build veteran around revolver, cause their talents makes up for loads of it's shortcomings

[shy prairie]

inner tranq or warp unleashed for staff gaming..

[tropic vigil]

I would say warp unleashed cuz more damage

[harsh walrus]

But @severe peak said it best, right wat is fun way 🙂

[smoky wigeon]

I like the idea of my psykers with a pistol. Does the lazgun fair better in damnation?

I mean I'm not even on heresy yet so w.e lol

[karmic delta]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-abatukam-gif-26360022

[karmic delta]

Male Savant

[tropic vigil]

Haven't seen many psykers with lazguns in damnation. I've only ran lazpistol in it a few times, once with hounds. It was alright but it's definitely kind of memey. Good for Eisenhorn rp

I have no clue which perks and blessings would be optimal though and it can be expensive to invest for it and prob not as strong as investing in a good sword or staff first.

[undone oriole]

laspistol is really strong for vet idk bout psyker

the great thing about psyker tho is you dont have to worry as much about having great carapce penetration since u have bb

i have been having fun doing recon lasguns on psyker with brain burst ability feat tho

recon lasgun def a meme but pretty good against bosses with infernus

[tropic vigil]

Kinetic barrage is probably mandatory when running any of the lasguns I think

I should probably level my vet and try the other guns out

[undone oriole]

yea for sure

[tropic vigil]

When I used it it wasn't anything spectacular and really only found myself shooting specials in the head, but not nearly as effective as basically any other staff or gun.

[cosmic sigil]

what should i change?

[undone oriole]

run n gun probably for anything else

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, certainly, but what is the other good blessing?

[ember hornet]

is it arco that stans for focused

[spice veldt]

yeah

what about it

huh

you lil shit

[ember hornet]

I was just saying it's an option

[cosmic sigil]

i only have surge

[spice veldt]

oh ok

pass along now

[cosmic sigil]

for the moment

[ember hornet]

[spice veldt]

I'd reroll +specialist into something like +unarmoured if you're not running Warp Unleashed or Warp Battery

[spice veldt]

GO OUT

[cosmic sigil]

i run both

[ember hornet]

[spice veldt]

Warp Flurry is the common pairing with Rending Shockwave; but yes, I will stan focused channeling for sprint-sliding into shooters

[harsh urchin]

hes saying you suck

fight fight

[spice veldt]

why don't you turn your bum towards me so I can bite your cheeks off

[ornate hamlet]

Zealot chat forever changed Arco

[steel flame]

@near wyvern aight after futher testing.......stuff has been a bit....inconsistant. sometimes i can get it to trigger at the 1m/s intervals and other times it wont. then fastest i was able to always proc surge at was with a 100m/s interval between M1 and R. its annoying

[ornate hamlet]

No extension

[steel flame]

oop

hang on

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-cereal-eat-hungry-breakfast-gif-17739091

extension fail

[steel flame]

100 m/s https://streamable.com/0htxnq 1m/s https://streamable.com/v9vyi3

so sometimes surge procs when im goin as fast as i can and other times it just doesn't????

it might be the input buffer freakin out

[near wyvern]

For Deimos with Trauma/Purgatus I have:

• +20 maniac
• +1 stamina
• Unstable Power 4
• Deflector 4

For Deimos with Void I have:

• +25 maniac
• +25 flak
• Unstable Power 4
• Slaughterer 4

[severe peak]

Deflector? Isn’t that for force swords?

Oh

I realize now what you mean

Running WITH trauma

[near wyvern]

Yeah the thing is, there is a certain delay after which when you quell cancel it will not cancel the shot. If you go too fast, it will at some point quell too early a couple times and at those points it will cancel the proc.

Basically to tune in the macro, you want to start at very slow, like so slow that it doesn't even cancel, and then make it faster and faster with a lot of testing in between to make sure it's not cancelling the shots.

It's a lot of work to get it right

And all of this for a blessing that is underwhelming

[steel flame]

And you know what? I'm having fun

But yeah I worked my way down to 100m/s in testing. It starts getting inconsistent at 95

[near wyvern]

👍

[near wyvern]

Yeah sry bad wording on my part

[severe peak]

No prob, horg ogryn brain does it’s best

[nova dirge]

I stole this from the subreddit and i dont give a damn

Please fatshark, give us big funny goggles

[severe peak]

Psyker killing a man by making him think too hard

[nova dirge]

THATS WHY WE NEED BIG FUNNY GOGGLES!!

[severe peak]

Hypno goggles would go hard

[granite plaza]

would you mind telling me the feats you have on your trauma psyker? I think you mentioned above you run blazing spirit/warp flurry - why do you prefer blazing spirit over rending shockwave

[azure oar]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-toad-frog-mesmerized-gif-3938170

[feral verge]

Deflector

[lean valley]

Can only get the rending shockwave to stack efficiently if you light charge spam

[feral verge]

Lmfaooo lmaooo looll never taking you seriously ever again all credibility lost lmaoooo lmfaooo

[near wyvern]

I run blazing spirit with warp nexus 4, you cannot run blazing spirit with anything else.

Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave is the recommended option because it's easier to play effectively and has the better theoretical DPS under ideal conitions. Trauma doesn't get a lot of crit damage bonus and with Flurry you go between 0 and 100 with your peril so that's why Rending Shockwave is better as it increases your teams damage against the beefier targets (trauma itself cannot benefit from it as it ignores armour).

The only downside of it is you have to run Inner Tranquility (with Warp Battery) in order to get the Flurry going in the first place, so you will miss out on Warp Unleashed and the important break points it brings for BB.

With Blazing Spirit and Warp Nexus 4 (T4 mandatory) you have the ability to apply 3 stacks of Soulblaze (caps at 6) statistically every 3rd - 4th to everything that gets touched by the explosion. This enables you to deal better with the biggest weakness of trauma: ranged enemies. In addition, you are not forced to place the epicenter on top of enemies to deal damage, you can create a safe space at your team's feet or a deployed med kit and keep enemies at bay while dealing ok damage. Since you are not using flurry you can also pick up Warp Unleashed, which helps you to get those sweet BB break points and helps to one shot mutants with Deimos, the only non-boss enemy Trauma cannot control.

But in order to get the Warp Nexus 4 Blazing Spirit to work, you need a near max blast radius and charge speed and you have to learn to quell cancel and constantly play at 80-100 peril so in takes a lot of practice as well to not blow yourself up when things get heated.

[steel flame]

I can second this. You are very much teetering on a razor edge the entire game, though it does produce fantastic results well worth the effort

If they ever decide to buff blazing spirit on staves I can easily see it surpassing flurry shockwave in the future

[granite plaza]

thank you for the detailed explanation! what talents are you running on your psyker? and just to be certain - quell canceling is hitting quell (reload) in between RMB casts to cancel the casting animation?

I just looked at your YouTube channel and the video of you facetanking the daemonhost is the reason I took kinetic deflection with my force swords when I started playing this game last month lmao 🤣

[steel flame]

This is what I use for blazing trauma. Pygex prefers warp battery in t5

Personally I prefer having wildfire to ramp up the fire stacks faster on big hordes, though warp battery has better dps at 6 stacks and AB has more burst damage with 6 sb vs 4

But both work and come in close to each other at the end of the day

[near wyvern]

I run 311112, quell cancelling is when you cancel the after cast animation with the quell input and then release the quell input to charge a new cast again. When done correctly this will greatly reduce the time when you can cast again.

[near wyvern]

Well thank you! I use both Kinetic Delfection and Kinetic Shielding depending on if my build is a front liner or not. Kinetic Deflection combined with Deflector allows you to get out of very nasty situations without taking any chip damage and is the best revive tool in the game. Tanking a Daemonhost is more of a meme, if you can move on circles you can just outrun the Daemonhost by spamming Illisi/Deimos dodges, easier to do with Deimos (check out Meemos from my videos if you want to see how that looks like).

[cyan portal]

@near wyvern That video is still processing, no idea what youtube is up to it is normally much faster.

[near wyvern]

Probably bugged out

[cyan portal]

Maybe will try it again, one of them will finish first

[olive ember]

Anything new in psyker chat

[near wyvern]

People claiming Uncanny Strike is useful on Deimos over Slaughterer/Unstable Power

[olive ember]

🤔

I mean eh

Uncanny is only rly useful on illisi

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12p4uq6/psa_for_deimos_force_sword_users_uncanny_strike/

its kinda mid imo tho tbh

like its only actual use case is crusher packs (atleast if you are using deimos solely for its single target)

where as the illisi you can get uncanny up naturally while fighting hordes, which is amazing when fighting mixed hordes

[cyan portal]

I would only run uncanny deimos if none of the teammates have a good solution to crusher packs.

[olive ember]

I mean I’d just run a rending shock trauma staff then

[cyan portal]

I wouldn't bother with uncanny illisi because what situation is it even going to help with?

I'm married to my purgatus staff, trauma too janky doesn't fit my vibe.

[olive ember]

Uncanny illisi is actually good because they can quickly swap from horde clearing to mauler/crusher clearing

Since you should have uncanny up a decent chunk of the time

On top of a spammable special

[spice veldt]

you want to bodyshot maulers most of the time with illisi, so even for that it's only particularly relevant on crushers

[olive ember]

I mean there’s still a dmg reduction associated with flak

The big thing is keeping uncanny up. The deimos is basically relying on the multi hit of the special to proc it

[spice veldt]

for lights and bodyshotting maulers sure, but force swords have fast heavies, and the illisi has special spam

[olive ember]

But illisi you can probably keep it up rly easily

[lunar hollow]

it is really not that hard to keep uncanny up on any weapon that has it

i dont think u would need a special hit on deimos to do it

[olive ember]

I mean depends on how you use the deimos

[lunar hollow]

especially on elites (the main use for it) because they are larger

[olive ember]

A lot of people only use it to kill specials and ogryns

[lunar hollow]

if u want uncanny u aim at head

left click 5 times

boom

[olive ember]

So they just pull it out to slap ogryns with it and use staff for trash clear

[cyan portal]

Curious to see the illisi version of this https://youtu.be/6FWsvgfL_HM if anyone cares to prove the point

[olive ember]

The idea is you purge everything and when an ogryn comes you pull out your deimos and special it, get instant 5 stack uncanny or wte and then you can just heavy combo the rest of the ogryns

But that’s rly the only use case for an uncanny deimos vs an unstable power deimos

[lunar hollow]

u dont even like really have to do that though

[hard breach]

Siblings, is the Trauma useful?

[olive ember]

It’s been meta for atleast 2 months now

[amber abyss]

Yes

[lunar hollow]

i would definitely not say its "relying" on that method to get uncanny up

cuz its not a very hard blessing to activate unless ur playing with ogryn weapons headshot prio

[spice veldt]

it's useful if you're not a lvl3 psyker with a 0% charge rate and blast radius staff

[lunar hollow]

in which case it is literally impossible

[amber abyss]

Good horde clear, good stagger on crushers/maulers/bulwarks

[hard breach]

And Blazing Spirit? I do like fire

[olive ember]

Its a side grade to the meta blessings

[lunar hollow]

the only blessing that gives a significant change to how u play is warp flurry and thats if u like spamming explosions everywhere

everything else just kinda exists and can kinda be built around but isnt hugely impactful

[hard breach]

Meh, running entirely meta is boring

[olive ember]

I mean blazing spirit is meta tho

well a side grade of the meta

[lunar hollow]

there's no meta when u can run everything that isnt run and gun

[olive ember]

I'm not one to discuss it tho, trauma is like my tertiary choice of staff

[lunar hollow]

the only meta on trauma staff is have good stats

[polar grail]

Your guys sounds like saltspyre with those grunts 10/10

[olive ember]

I'll be running recon las on my psyker next game then

[lunar hollow]

hey you stupid fuck we were talking about blessings

that's entirely unrelated

[spice veldt]

perish

[near wyvern]

If you gonna light perhaps, but heavy is where your DPS truly lies and for that, only carapace benefits from rending. Dunno abou the special.

[cyan portal]

That's Pygex's work

[olive ember]

I'll be running surge and transfer peril on my trauma then

[lunar hollow]

do those even exist

theyre not real

[olive ember]

on trauma yes

[lunar hollow]

those dont count they actually dont do anything

[hard breach]

Picked up from Grunt's armory, looks decent enough

[polar grail]

I dont know what that means!

[olive ember]

@lunar hollow

Trauma staff has so many fucking useless blessings lmao

[lunar hollow]

im ngl

those arent real

[olive ember]

sustained fire, surge, transfer peril, run n gun, and ofc focused channeling

[lunar hollow]

they basically dont exist on it because most of them don't actually fucking work

[cyan portal]

Pygex is a player here

[olive ember]

pray hadron doesn't ruin it

[hard breach]

Why'd you say that, she just put +1 Stamina on it

[olive ember]

oof

[lunar hollow]

surge should basically only exist on voidstrike

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[lunar hollow]

unless they make it do something else on rmbs

[olive ember]

just search up stuff from pygex for blazing crit traumas

and yeah

[lunar hollow]

double explosion on trauma would be really funny but honestly with how fatshark works the first explosion would knock everything out of the epicentre and the 2nd wouldnt do damage

[olive ember]

thats the funny part

surge doesn't work on trauma staff rmb

only lmb

[lunar hollow]

yea

thats what im talking about

in the hypothetical world where it does

[olive ember]

still mid yeah

[lunar hollow]

it probably wouldn't do anything unless the enemy has stagger res

because fatshark is evil

[olive ember]

we had a guy convinced that if surge worked on trauma staff it would be OP

something about how we would be doing what was it @spice veldt do you remember the guy?

[spice veldt]

no

[lunar hollow]

it would be

[olive ember]

something about how we would be doing 450 or 900 damage per explosion and it would be stupid op

[lunar hollow]

so useless

[spice veldt]

i have peabrain memory

[near wyvern]

That would be me

[polar grail]

Saltspyre

[lunar hollow]

it would uhh

maybe 1 shot gunners?

but u know what else 1 shots gunners

that funny built in psyker mechanic

[olive ember]

well the guy isn't here so we are all in agreement

for once

[near wyvern]

Is my main on VT2

[polar grail]

I play elf because I love stealth

[near wyvern]

I do the head popping on Bounty Hunter

And billhook for speeeeed

[polar grail]

bounty hunter is really funny too

I like the duel daggers

dual

[cyan portal]

who is best traumer that uploads to youtube? I want to see what the fuss is about when in the hands of skill

[olive ember]

@near wyvern I do actually wanna see like a hi 5 or up with a blazing trauma

Just cuz when I was testing it out a week before it felt kinda mid

Tho I was using it with wildfire and not WB

[near wyvern]

I can try to take some clips the next time Emperor allows me to have fun again

[olive ember]

thx thx

[near wyvern]

Wildfire is bugged AF, I don't recommend it

[olive ember]

oh yeah ik

the thought process was that blazing spirit applied 3 stacks, which would've been right in the middle where its not too many stacks or too little

but even then it felt kinda meh

[cyan portal]

I kinda enjoy wildfire in its current state with purga, going to be entirely busted if they ever fix it.

[feral verge]

Same

Mostly warrior priest

But zealot and witch hunter too

[olive ember]

Disgusting

IB trollhammer is true beauty

[feral verge]

I love the hammer and tome

[steel flame]

I'll try to make a video too

I just always forget to hit the upload button

[olive ember]

[cyan portal]

@near wyvern Also curios to see a trauma staff vs 6 crusher race too.

[steel flame]

It just ragdolls them around which is still great but just does ok damage

[olive ember]

Trauma isn’t the worst against crushers actually

They have 100% armor pen naturally so it’s just crusher health / trauma damage # of explosions

Sure the trauma does like what

300 damage per blast

And sure the crusher has like what

4.5k hp?

[spice veldt]

something along the lines of 2550

i forget if its 2.4k something or 2.5k something

[cyan portal]

I'm curios to see how it actually plays out with peril management and them spreading out

[limpid sundial]

hey, can anyone tell me what this blessing tooltip means?

[lunar hollow]

its crit chance

[limpid sundial]

oh okay

idk why its so poorly worded, it doesnt say anything about crit

[harsh orchid]

you gain between 2% and 8% psyker

you get bigger

[limpid sundial]

lmao

no no

you gain

betwen 2 and 8%

based

you just get more based

[olive ember]

It used to say crit chance

Then they took a leave of their senses and changed nexus to “harnessing the warp” or wte

And broke the tool tips

Recently they changed it back to nexus but kept broken tooltips

The fatshark guarantee

[limpid sundial]

wtf

[olive ember]

Welcome to the psyker experience

[polar grail]

Shadow wizard money gang

[safe crystal]

You get either gains or become more based, your pick

[olive ember]

What about an illisi with uncanny

[harsh urchin]

is that on 5?

[lethal folio]

Yes

[harsh urchin]

I am surprised a crusher overhead didnt break through toughness

I would've expected it to o_O

[cyan portal]

100% toughness will tank first hit

[lethal folio]

Have to be in dodge for toughness reduction

[harsh urchin]

Ah you got hit in dodge state

[lethal folio]

then it does 130

which is very convenient

[harsh urchin]

what is the base damage

in non-dodge state

[lethal folio]

260

[harsh urchin]

ye that seems about right lmao

[olive ember]

oh btw you know how crusher and mauler overheads break full toughness right

DR applies to that

had vet ult active and took a mauler overhead and only took like a quarter of my toughness

[lethal folio]

yes all toughness dr is all damage, ranged/melee is not real.

[olive ember]

oh yeah i knew i just didn't expect it to apply to the "special" attacks

like overheads

but I guess if the vet ult can nullify snipers then it can nullify overheads from crushers and maulers as well

[spice veldt]

overheads just have really high base damage

they don't break toughness like fire does

[olive ember]

makes sense

[lethal folio]

Couldn't do Illisi, Deimos was much easier.

[harsh urchin]

oh so the 10-33% ranged toughness damage reduction is everything as well?

[lethal folio]

yup.

[harsh urchin]

lit

[lethal folio]

Even generic health damage reduction such as ogryn passive applies to toughness.

[harsh urchin]

lol wait orgyn's passive says it applies to both though

[lethal folio]

one applies to toughness, the other applies to health & toughness.

[harsh urchin]

oh! so it double dips?

so ogryn gets 64% toughness DR baseline? LOL

[lethal folio]

36%

[harsh urchin]

seems like a bug tbh

[polar grail]

dude

I was doing the repair mission and after we got all the rods put in and were waiting for the door to open

I was stood on the catwalk slinging spells too below

felt so good

[polar grail]

Is the demios force swords special actually worth using?

[cyan portal]

on crusher if safe and into butt of mutie if they've grabbed a friend and you want to confirm a safe kill, otherwise light heavy combo better for every situation

[spice veldt]

it has decent stagger and 200% damage to flak which is nice for 1v1ing enemies and flak (such as the assassination boss's hp)

if you can hit weakspots, I'm pretty sure the special and l1h2 DPS was comparable against flak? I didn't really compare the DPS and don't know which one is better, though the l1h2 at least won't lock you in place

[polar grail]

Its better then just brain burst and doging thyo?

[cyan portal]

@near wyvern https://youtu.be/cgMenk9Deqc

[near wyvern]

No. The only use case is to finish a lone elite after fight is over

[near wyvern]

Thx, seemed to be about the same for Part A than what Tyr did with just meleeing them with uncanny, so super niche usage.

[spice veldt]

depends on the melee and enemy being fought; but if it's an enemy that you can reach and whack on with melee continuously, then melee will probably be better

oh oops i'm in my illisi mentality

yeah the deimos is probably better than brainburst in almost every situation for single-target

[near wyvern]

But it's super unsafe

[cyan portal]

Yeah, anything else mixed in would have also died is the only real difference. I agree it is a niche loadout, but useful if no one else on the team has any faster way to deal with the crusher pack.

[polar grail]

I hope one of the subclasses they make for psyker is melee

I want a melee glass cannon

[near wyvern]

anything else mixed in would have also died

This is not due to rending as crushers are the only thing that benefit from it for Soulblaze. And Bulwakrs obviously block the flames.

What you can also do with purge is just RMB through and then start spamming LMB, RMB makes sure everything around them burns away and LMB can stagger crushers if you don't have all aggro on you

Doesn't kill yeah but controls

[cyan portal]

Yeah, they would have just died from the stacks as normal. I use ult to open up bulwarks to burn, so it plays out a little differently, but similar outcome.

https://youtu.be/qfNaTFGykwg?t=325 is it playing out in an actual game, though flamer teammate did about half the dmg too, he ulted too early to do the zealot trick properly.

[near wyvern]

It would be funny to see how flurry shockwave and nexus spirit trauma duo would do

Flurry shockwave with barrage and nexus spirit with AB

[polar grail]

I thought psyker was like bad low level or smth

[cyan portal]

You might know, am I right in thinking wildfire will only trigger if the pysker with wildfire applied the first stack?

[late yew]

third person is fuckn awful

[late yew]

this is psyker already

with illi

[cyan portal]

Not a fan? 1st person feels very narrow now I've got used to it.

[late yew]

Because it is meant to be narrow

[cyan portal]

I guess so, 3rd person certainly makes aiming harder. Better for team awareness though 🤷

[snow coral]

what's this crusher challenge? just spawn a certain number?

[cyan portal]

https://youtu.be/6FWsvgfL_HM

[snow coral]

just spawn 6 and see how fast you can kill them

I haven't messed with any of the psykanium mods

[cyan portal]

pretty much, it is handy training

[cosmic sigil]

How did you cancel the lock animation after hitting with the activated sword? (second hit I think?)

[polar grail]

what dueling swords are good

[spice veldt]

tyr didn't seem to have activated his deimos at all in his video

[cosmic sigil]

Look closer. I'm sure he stroke it.

[cyan portal]

no peril, so dont think so?

[spice veldt]

i don't notice any stroking animation

i think it's just the shaky camera that makes it look like it

[cosmic sigil]

I'm gonna screen that

[steel flame]

i cant say the crusher challange is very difficult with brittle trauma and deimos sword

4 charge shots with trauma then its 6 insta kills with diemos heavy

[harsh urchin]

[cosmic sigil]

Ok. No activation indeed. But stroking there was.

[polar grail]

With that one if it was activated wouldn't it get stuck in for a moment anyways

[lethal folio]

That's just the heavy wind up animation.

[cyan portal]

not supposed to be difficult, just interesting to see kill speed and safeness of various approaches

[steel flame]

i mean fair enough

[west fox]

Hey guys. Is the Trauma staff worth using over void?

[cosmic sigil]

God. That looks the same. I'm not using the Deimos that much. So everytime I see stroking I think activation.

[west fox]

I'm pretty new to psyker

hit 30 today

[cosmic sigil]

I'm more afraid of 6 ragers or maulers tbh.

[west fox]

6 dogs

[polar grail]

Why maulers?

they are just crushers but small

[cosmic sigil]

Sorry ragers.

[west fox]

I got a 377 profane and Hadron ruined me

is this worth keeping?

[cosmic sigil]

Scar ragers and dreg ragers. Urgh.

Yeah maulers is small crusher indeed

[rare lagoon]

How could Hadron do this too you

[spice veldt]

ragers aren't too scary to me ragers aren't too bad to me since their individual attacks don't do that much damage and their combos always slow their movement speed

maulers and crushers are insanely scary to me because I tend to whiff my dodges

like in one of my recent games, I whiffed two dodges against two maulers and just got two-shot from full hp and toughness to getting downed

[west fox]

are you f-ing kidding me.

[spice veldt]

at least ragers won't two-shot my ass

[rare lagoon]

When the crusher throws that one attack that he holds until the heat death of the universe

[west fox]

elden ring boss Crusher

[rare lagoon]

actually though

[steel flame]

trauma is the most versitile staff psyker has right now. its got arguably the best crowd control, being able to stun and knock down every non boss enemy in the game minus mutants allowing you to lock them down for the team to deal with. it also has amazing horde clear being able to solo hordes easily in only a few seconds as well as chunking the bigger enemies like maulers, orgyns and ragers

if you can get a good one and get used to how you aim it, it very much outclasses void at this point in time

[west fox]

ty

what blessings ought I go for?

[rare lagoon]

if you get flurry you can just spam the thing at stupid speeds and its great, there is another for rending thats really good

[steel flame]

best all around rn is warp flurry and rending shockwave,

[steel flame]

there is also a trauma build with nexus 4 and blazing spirit 3 that also slaps but its not as easy to use

[rare lagoon]

Yeah I tried a couple but the Flurry + Rending is my favourite rn

really does just shred through hordes

[west fox]

ty guys. Really appreciate the help

is transfer peril worth?

on a voidstrike

[cyan portal]

yup, add flurry and you can easily chain cast secondaries forever if you can aim

[cosmic sigil]

For me it's the other way around... I tend to be downed by the dual blade attack

[restive slate]

Its the slowdown from the Mauler/Crusher overhead that dooms me

Even if I survived it, I become easy stationary target for everyone

[spice veldt]

don't mind me spamming dodges and getting punished for it https://streamable.com/cgnsik

[restive slate]

Mauler be like don't hit where he's at, hit where he will be

[lunar hollow]

what rebinding your dodge key does to a mf

[lunar hollow]

its a feature carried over from vt2

enemies with overheads like to keep tracking u if u fuck up the dodge time

[spice veldt]

whatever mr jump and dodge on the same key

[lunar hollow]

dont be hating on me cuz im BEAUTIFUL

[spice veldt]

you are beautiful yes

but there are some things that can't be looked past (like binding jump & dodge on the same key)

[lunar hollow]

im not re-learning hundreds of hours of muscle memeory

it would do more harm than good to me at this point

[spice veldt]

you can always just move jump to another key

and keep dodge on soacebar

[olive ember]

look at those graphics holy shit

[lunar hollow]

i cannot believe i didn't think of that

[spice veldt]

perish

[lunar hollow]

im stupid 😦

[spice veldt]

dumdum

[olive ember]

It really puts the pre-alpha playtest look into the game

very accurate

[lunar hollow]

i dont have any good keys to rebind jump to though

[spice veldt]

yeah could do something like moving sprint to your spacebar, where you'll then have shift free for something else

[lunar hollow]

good god no

[spice veldt]

yes

sprint and dodge on the same key supremacy

[lunar hollow]

i try to keep my key configurations as similar as possible between games

[olive ember]

these people are degens

fucking space for jump

[lunar hollow]

when i tried playing dark and darker

[olive ember]

ctrl for crouch

[lunar hollow]

the interact and ult keys were swapped from dt

[olive ember]

lmao

[lunar hollow]

so ult was e and interact was f

[olive ember]

e or F

[lunar hollow]

and u only get 1 ult per game

in dark n darker

[olive ember]

just press both at the same time scrub

[lunar hollow]

and i wasted it SO MANY FUCKING TIMES

[spice veldt]

lemayo

[restive slate]

Yea can't spam dodge, have to time it

[olive ember]

anyways gamers

who wants to play some

mhrise 😄

[spice veldt]

does the game not allow you to change keybindings or what

[lunar hollow]

no i just