psyker-class

[cosmic sigil]

You play on a thin and light?

[spice veldt]

ye

it's got a 3050ti so I have access to DLSS at the very least

I also have it sitting on top of a fan for more cooling

[cosmic sigil]

I have a 3060 but yeah same setup with fans underneath

[cyan portal]

Ok, so I am right in thinking you can't get there without buffs, good to know

[spice veldt]

ye

if only

[unreal dust]

+25% vs Maniacs is highly suggested for Deimos. Warp Battery will let you consistently one-shot muties with Warp Unleashed on top of it. If you decide not to do WB for 6 charges, you can still get the Mutants low enough for a quick follow up stab. And still ace muties that have grabbed allies or have any other damage on them.

Bonus feature for Deimos if you're learning it. The H2 hurtbox seems to prefer the furthest possible point. So you can stap a Mutants weakspot from behind. Same for Crushers, Bulwarks, and Monstrosities

you'd be amazed how much damage you can crank with H2 on Plague Ogryns this way.

Though I will not recommend face-stabbing through a Beast of Nurgle to do this trick. That's just asking to get swallowed >.>;

[blissful dirge]

Ok so I understand gunpsyker. the autopistol is too good. BUT

what the frak is the point of Laz Pistol psyker?

3rd ive seen.

[faint sigil]

probably want to try something new

[kind jay]

it's very strong, if you can aim

[blissful dirge]

really? cause its stats arnt very impressive. Does it have something hidden or something? I know the pistols have base Run n' Gun apparently but it'd need some impressive bonuses to be better than a simple laz rifle

[spice veldt]

it's one of the few weapons with a good weakspot/crit multiplier

and also one of the weapons with a nonzero crit chance

[blissful dirge]

ok but how much is non zero

cause if its 5% thats still garbage

[spice veldt]

not that much

I think at least 10%

15%, if nothing has changed from the past

so 20% crit chance all-in-all

[blissful dirge]

i dunno. It seems like the worst option for the classes that use it

[spice veldt]

not as great but not as worst

[cyan portal]

tbh I don't get the fuss of deimos over illisi then, with buffs the illisi 1 shots muties too.

[feral verge]

With buffs

You're not always gonna have slaughterer active for the one shot

[lunar hollow]

deimos does it more reliably

[feral verge]

Deimos has a double edged sword feature (haha get it?) The special charge locks you on place for a bit, yeah

But it also stuns the enemy

[spice veldt]

(haha)

[feral verge]

I find it useful on ragers, and for stopping crusher/mauler overheads

[spice veldt]

i'm slightly scared of using the obscurus/deimos special to stop crusher overheads

because I've had instances where the special did not interrupt their overheads

[lunar hollow]

i hate using specials that stunlock you

[spice veldt]

consequently, I ate shit

very true

[lunar hollow]

because on hi int and shock gauntlet trappers/hounds/etc spawn constantly

and you will get grabbed

if you use the special

[spice veldt]

or at least, I wish we had control over it

[lunar hollow]

i wish you could stop it

just let me fuckin qswap

and be free

[spice veldt]

like we're only going to be in the special for as long as we hold LMB

yeah

and the activation on force swords also being uninterruptible

[lunar hollow]

like on chain weapons

u can just stop revving

on force swords ur literally controlling it with ur MIND

[feral verge]

I mostly only use the light attack special. It doesn't lock you in place for that long. I just spam block to cancel it asap

I usually don't get hit

[lunar hollow]

people laugh at me whenever i get netted i cannot afford to have it happen

[spice veldt]

is this why you're not playing psyker

[lunar hollow]

no the reason im not playing psyker is because im trying to get a very particular godroll on vet

that requires millions of ordos

[spice veldt]

no plasmagun for you

[feral verge]

V*t

[lunar hollow]

no plasmagun for me indeed 😔

i wouldve played psyker yesterday if i didnt feel like i would be unable to actually use the survivability tools it has properly

due to being sleep deprived

[spice veldt]

simply have hours of spamming the dodge button ingrained within you

[lunar hollow]

sorry i play classes that have to think about when to slide around the floor like an ice skater

[spice veldt]

and be a god gamer to not get stunned by a melee hit and then eat a crusher overhead

[lunar hollow]

[spice veldt]

not that I would ever know of course

[lunar hollow]

me and red fought like 6 crushers

no damage

u fight 2

destroyed

[spice veldt]

I THOUGHT SOMEBODY WAS GONNA HELP

BECAUSE SOMEBODY PINGED A CRUSHER

[lunar hollow]

?????

[feral verge]

I have a habit of getting hit by overheads lol

[lunar hollow]

I DIDNT HEAR THE PING

[spice veldt]

so i didn't trauma them

[lunar hollow]

i was buy being a brauto vet

[feral verge]

In crusher groups

[lunar hollow]

do u think i have the capability to look at non-yellow outlines

when im in the flow state

[feral verge]

Because I try to melee them all

[spice veldt]

my b

my b

[feral verge]

When I should just hang back and bb a few

[lunar hollow]

just like

spam ping them

if u want help

cuz i'll hear the noise

but if it gets pinged once i cannot guarantee my object permanence will turn on

[spice veldt]

well if my teammates are already running ahead I don't want to waste mission time by dragging them forward

also it turns out that it was the bot that was near me and not any of you two

[lunar hollow]

lmfao

ugh god why tf is the archivum hishock heresy and not damnation

[spice veldt]

oh yeah my complete lack of spatial awareness bit me in the bum

cuz the trauma staff lets me get away with not having to ever kite

i dodged backwards into the damn metal grating

[lunar hollow]

f

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/yrwfvy

[lunar hollow]

ive done that sometimes

or i'll try to dodge

and i turn my camera at the same time

and i end up hardly moving cuz the direction i dodged in is now where a wall is

[feral verge]

Can't say I've ever made a mistake in this game

Can't say I've ever taken damage

[lunar hollow]

there's me

[spice veldt]

100% real facts and non-actors

[lunar hollow]

coming to help at the end

when u dont need it

[spice veldt]

look at you with your fancy power sword

except taking a swing at that dreg bruiser

[lunar hollow]

stylish

[spice veldt]

lmao

[cyan portal]

those graphics really are something

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a new mod on roblox

[lunar hollow]

ngl that wouldve been a lot cooler

if the slide wasn't too early

[spice veldt]

this is what an ultrathin laptop gamer has to do for frames

[feral verge]

Remember after the power sword nerf the v*ts were crying that it was ruined

[spice veldt]

ikr

[lunar hollow]

holy shit

[spice veldt]

and it spurred on some new discussion

[lunar hollow]

why is the fuckin spark so MASSIVE

[spice veldt]

such as people bringing up the infinite cleave of the old power sword being fair and balanced "because it already basically does that"

[lunar hollow]

i think the only legitimate criticism i saw

was that it made cycler way more necessary

the problem is

this is already an issue for a bunch of weapons

where effectiveness is determined by blessings

[lunar hollow]

and then this was alleviated when they kinda secretly buffed RNG and added t3 cycler

[spice veldt]

yeah, which was nice

[lunar hollow]

the rng buff drastically improved the game

cuz now my soul is only crushed like

70% of the time

instead of 99%

and that soul crushing is now at brunts instead of hadron

[spice veldt]

because ur my light

[lunar hollow]

this is another funny frame

[spice veldt]

nice legs

[lunar hollow]

thanks

i uh

i dont know how that happened

[spice veldt]

the bruiser's machete is covering your leg up

and my low LOD settings gives it a triangle look

so now it looks like you have legs that taper off into a point

[lunar hollow]

lol

as u can see in the kill feed im kinda just vibing shooting stuff

and then i had like a moment of calm

and i look around

and there's 1 nobody there
and 2 i see your health bar kinda nose dive

[spice veldt]

and then you see me almost dying in the 1st minute of dropping down

[lunar hollow]

yes

and then i arrive to heroically save u from a single dreg brusier

[spice veldt]

god bless

it would've been also sad if the dreg bruiser finished me off

[lunar hollow]

i was kinda just going over there cuz i figured in for an overhead in for a stupid down to a single bruiser

so i was gonna pick u up if need be

[spice veldt]

true

on the other hand, I was at 10 hp for a good while

until we got to the next medicae lemayo

[lunar hollow]

ive had a couple games like that

one time i spent a good while at 1 hp as vet

cuz people picked up both grims

[spice veldt]

i considered just blowing myself up

[lunar hollow]

lol

the tactical down

i tried doing that in a game with red and a psyker dropped a medpack at my feet the literal moment i was about to suicide

(as ogryn)

[spice veldt]

oh wait I deployed a medipack when the boss spawned

cuz you also weren't healthy

[lunar hollow]

is that the game

where i ate shit to 3 bursters

at the start

[spice veldt]

maybe

[lunar hollow]

i was so fucking mad

cuz like

im pretty sure 1 jumped outside of my push range

and there's literally nothing you can do when that happens

im p sure thats the game where i ate shit to 3 separate bursters yeah

[spice veldt]

yes

[lunar hollow]

it may have been like 2

idr

but it was multiple

unless im thinking of a different game

[spice veldt]

yeah there was another one

[lunar hollow]

ok im not insane

[spice veldt]

the second didn't seem to have blown on you tho

[lunar hollow]

there was some uh

trickery going on

also

https://streamable.com/rv9bw9

here's 50 seconds of me trying to get up to you and then just trying to survive

while the game paces the spawns perfectly so that i can't fucking go anywhere

[feral verge]

I've played with zug zug before

Random pub game

[lunar hollow]

red is like 'button pls'

meanwhile

me and the ogryn

fighting for our fucking lives

[spice veldt]

yeah i saw his chat message and was like i might as well press it

[lunar hollow]

mostly me fighting

the ogryn is just kinda there

[spice veldt]

damn you were right under me when I got sniped

got a 1st seat hearing to me getting my torso blown out

[lunar hollow]

yeah lmfao

i was under there trying to find the sniper

cuz like

[spice veldt]

don't mind me dying off screen to you multiple times

[lunar hollow]

i knew he was somewhere

[lunar hollow]

the mystery is part of the fun

also could u imagine how fucking funny it wouldve been if my burster kill aggro'd the dh

[spice veldt]

f

another two-person wipe at that same area

[lunar hollow]

that area is actually hell

[spice veldt]

ikr

though it is partly our fault for always splitting up

since none of us apparently have any idea of how the others died

[lunar hollow]

well uh

that last one

when i played ogryn

was 90% my fault

[spice veldt]

and 10% not?

[lunar hollow]

because i walked away from everyone else

to go kill a crusher

[spice veldt]

smh

[lunar hollow]

and i turned around

and someone's on fire

and 2 people are down

i had an actual ogryn moment

[lunar hollow]

do u really have this little faith in me

most of the time i wasnt the one dead ok

[spice veldt]

hi kronk

[lunar hollow]

u can see me in the distance

i think this is around when i turned around

and kinda uh

realized

"oh shit i have teammates"

[spice veldt]

but you got the crusher kill at least

[lunar hollow]

yep

enemy down

saved the game

[spice veldt]

oh that's where the crusher went

[lunar hollow]

i also picked up an ammo pack

so yeah

[spice veldt]

cuz I saw the shadow of a crusher in the fire, but I didn't see where it went

[lunar hollow]

huh

no you know that walkway on the right?

[spice veldt]

cuz I tried to BB his ass and he just disappeared

[lunar hollow]

are we talking about the same crusher

[spice veldt]

oh hmm

[lunar hollow]

cuz i went to that walkway thing

[spice veldt]

oh nvm

it was a reaper

not a crusher

[lunar hollow]

and there was a crusher

and i ripper'd him

[spice veldt]

ye

[lunar hollow]

i dont remember what i did when i turned around besides putting a medipack down at some point

that whole situation was kinda a blur

[lunar hollow]

looks like a shitty watercolor painting or smth

[spice veldt]

be quiet, you

[lunar hollow]

nuh uh

https://streamable.com/sdtw0c

at 23 seconds i steal a kill from u

for the greater good

[spice veldt]

bastard

[lunar hollow]

if u think about it

it was a trade

cuz i set up the mutie kill for u

[spice veldt]

it's funny seeing my trauma circle pop around randomly

:(

mr 0 ammo in your mag

[lunar hollow]

what

what about it huh

the thing with the brauto

is that if u have big deathspitter/fire frenzy stacks

u can kinda gamble

and try to use the last shot to kill something

and sometimes it works out and i get a pretty safe reload

and sometimes it doesnt

and i love gambling

also

[spice veldt]

oh lmao

there was a barrel exploding

so i decided to just use it to propel myself

[lunar hollow]

speedrun strats

the flying psyker thing was pretty funny

[spice veldt]

pro gaming

[lunar hollow]

i did not see any of this

when i was playing

[spice veldt]

smh

missing out on those yellow outlines

[lunar hollow]

they walk into me later

so its fine

[spice veldt]

i clear out some of them

[lunar hollow]

but i legit just realized there's shit over there

[spice veldt]

though some of them sadly did walk over to you

[lunar hollow]

i will literally never get tired of just

standing out in the open

vs shooters

and leisurely strolling around

[spice veldt]

me frantically spamming shift and crouch

[lunar hollow]

see

if im an easy target

i get more stuff shooting at me

thus making ur life easier

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/3igr9m

[lunar hollow]

just casually ignoring the shotgunner

[spice veldt]

i have no concerns for those below me

[lunar hollow]

ok u had no slaught stacks

we traded kills then

i gave u the mutie

and i took the scab shooter

[spice veldt]

i gave you some ult cd bitch

[lunar hollow]

i dont give a fuck about ult cooldown

its not cool if the minute and 30 seconds is me pressing f 30 times

ive gotta be chilling on that ult while still in volley fire

[spice veldt]

smh

[lethal folio]

Yellow barrels are risky as all the buffs make them likely to oneshot you.

[spice veldt]

yeah I was considering just staying right on it

and then I realized that maybe I don't want to lose all that health

[lunar hollow]

its ok i wouldve killed everything so somebody else could pick u up

[spice veldt]

bottom behavior is when you lose a quarter of your hp and get no elite kills https://streamable.com/thy1z0

[lunar hollow]

wtf

uncalled for

when i played autopistol the sleep deprivation had been setting in

i lost 90% of my health to the first bruisers i saw at the start

[spice veldt]

i was very happy when I saw the killfeed and your name wasnt on there

[lunar hollow]

i was setting the kills up for u

ok

[spice veldt]

thx bottom

[lunar hollow]

shut up

stop lying about me

[spice veldt]

i only speak fax

[lunar hollow]

nuh uh

[lunar hollow]

i was seriously playing like shit for the first half of this match though

the neurons were not activating

[spice veldt]

i could tell

i do feel validated whenever somebody other than me is at 10% hp right at the beginning of the match

[lunar hollow]

well uh

i do that sometimes

lazorr has witnessed me lose 90% of my hp at the start of a match as zealot to a gunner and a couple shooters

[ornate hamlet]

🇧 🇦 🇸 🇪 🇩
🇺 🇸 🇪 🇷

[lunar hollow]

i just noticed that the face mask is significantly darker for u than it is for me

[spice veldt]

your mask?

[lunar hollow]

yes

the shitty graphics fuck up the lighting on it

[spice veldt]

they're not shitty; they're just a different style 🥺

[lunar hollow]

lets be real ok

the graphics are awful

but since ur some weird cretin who plays on the worst laptop ever created by human hands it is allegedly necessary for frames

so u get a pass

[spice veldt]

i shall accept this

though the laptop isn't that bad

it's just small

[ornate hamlet]

You got some cute hands

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotoritoken-kounotori-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676340

[spice veldt]

my hands are very cute indeed

but not as cute as josho's

[ornate hamlet]

[twilit flicker]

Me going to work ...

Trying not to laugh cuz theres dude standing next to me. Sorry.

[ornate hamlet]

Laughter harder

[near gale]

So, uh, how trolly do you guys think it would be if I were to put this skin or the surge staff skin on my purgatus staff?

I apparently also have a trauma staff skin...

[twilit flicker]

Oh troll-ey. Uh use whatever, just make sure to lie if they ask.

[near gale]

Since I am doing something stupid with that, with my staffs(because I can) I'm putting this skin on my surge staff.

[spice veldt]

depends on how much you see the trauma staff in your area

on NA west, a lot of people like to slap the trauma skin on their other staffs

so maybe surge (poptart) on your purg

[near gale]

So I should put the surge staff skin on my purgatus to make it more unique >_>'

[spice veldt]

mostly since the surge staff is a common enough pick that people won't be skeptical

maybe

though the poptart is ugly

i wouldn't want that on my screen all the time

[near gale]

I mean they might be surprised about how the surge staff isn't stunning the bs, and it somehow murdering hordes

[raven gate]

i mean, u could do this.
but u'll just be hurting ur team and therefore u as well
since teammates often plan their loadouts around what others have

[spice veldt]

their effects are both blue, so I'm sure there will be no confusion

[near gale]

Also: The custom flames mod is a HUGE boon to being able to see stuff when someone has a flamer or purgatus staff

I was playing earlier and has 2 seperate games where I got purgatus psykers... and the thing that made it harder to see what was going on was the burning effect on enemies

I don't think I ever saw the flame from the staff, in my pov

[spice veldt]

the darkening of their skin and clothes really does hide them

i don't look past 5 meters ahead of me, so the flame itself doesn't make much of a difference

[near gale]

I also am not blinded by my purgatus fire

[spice veldt]

simply have better eyes (and turn off Bloom)

[near gale]

That's what it looks like, for me

[spice veldt]

neat party trick to have it shoot out from your wrist

also, I must ask, what is that HUD

did you just leave everything in their default positions

[near gale]

I have the crosshair hud mod

but I turned off pretty much everything besides toughness and 1 other thing which I can't remember atm

[spice veldt]

maybe the ally indicators

[near gale]

oh: toughness, dodge count, and ammo

and reload time

[cosmic sigil]

i think i'll go back to using deflector

[near gale]

I guess I will turn on the peril indicator thing to see how that is, since I am using a staff on my psyker

I don't think I will need it because my battle wizard main skills(from vt2) make me not blow up... like... ever...

I don't remember the last time I didn't intentionally trigger the blow up...

[spice veldt]

it's all according to keikaku

[near gale]

I mean Sienna maining does seem to make peril management... very easy...

and the pysker get's the unchained's ability to cancel their blow up, unlike the other 2 careers for Sienna

[lunar hollow]

😳

[spice veldt]

damn, so you just straight up blew up at 100% in VT2 with no recourse unless you were playing a specific subclass?

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/vfqtna

im sorry psyker

i thought the burster would be out of the blast radius

[formal ridge]

hadron be trolling me

[formal ridge]

nurgle vomit

[near gale]

I'll see what that looks like in the meat grinder, hehe

Hm, this Iliisi which was in the credits shop looks so similar to my current one

[near gale]

Here you go, lol

Is wildfire at all worth taking over warp battery, for the purgatus staff?

I'm look at it... and thinking "Less peril resistance and damage... for just spreading fire to nearby enemies"

[spice veldt]

wildfire has some bugged, unlisted, and undesirable behavior that makes it not as great as it initially sounds

with the purg, the (dubious) advantage is "extending" the range of your flames by 5m

you've probably applied at least 4 stacks on every enemy near you, so I don't see the point in taking it with the purg

[near gale]

I didn't think the range from it was very high, but, 5m seems extremely small considering what I would lose by taking it...

This should work for damnation, right?

[near gale]

Well now...

I changed warp flurry to terrifying barrage, since I already changed the 1st blessing... then upgraded it to orange

I was amazed that it didn't turn out terribly

I changed terrifying barrage to focused channeling since that's the best blessing I have in my pool, besides warp flurry t3

[formal ridge]

lost a hishock earlier bcuz i thought bb'd a hound but hit a poxwalker instead

[raven gate]

interesting. u got incredibly lucky
cuz u want warp flurry and warp nexus in your purge staff

or terrifying barrage

[near gale]

I had to use t4 terrifying barrage, because that was the only tier I had for the purgatus

before I upgraded it, I mean

I mean I think focused channeling will help, until I am able to get warp nexus, since if I mess up and get hit by a melee enemy it won't cancel my flame at least

[echo turtle]

I don’t think you ever need inner tranq for the purgatus.

You can do a full charhed spray at 100% and if you trigger the 10% on kill reduction you don’t peril. So personally I run warp unleashed with the fire staff.

Wildfire can be good, but you need dense hordes to make good use of it

Personally, I found wildfire usefull for lighting up dudes then switching to a slaughterer sword. Though what tended to happen is there wouldn’t be the density of chaff needed to keep the effect going

[formal ridge]

coherency

[vestal stirrup]

What are some good blessings for the Illis MK V Blaze Force Sword?

[spice veldt]

Slaughterer + Deflector/Unstable Power/Bloodthirsty/Uncanny Strike
my preference leaning towards either Deflector or Unstable Power, with bloodthirsty and uncanny strike being a bit more situational

Maniac + Flak as per usual for psyker melees

[willow hazel]

If you are running Ascendant Blaze but not Warp Battery, then +Unarmored gives breakpoints to kill all normal enemies

[safe crystal]

If you mean groaners, you dont need +unarmoured to kill them with AB 4 stacks, it already does that on damnation. Everything else stays alive though, even with +unarmoured, unless you have some other form of damage/power increase (pinning fire, slaughterer, unstable etc from blessings, warp unleashed talent)

[river dawn]

OK i finished, the rng for peril transfer was pain, how is it now?

[ornate hamlet]

pog

[restive spoke]

a lot better thats basically the same as what im running the resaon the transfer peril was important cause if you use it against a hoard and get a bunch of colat headsshot it will basically get rid of all your peril

[molten sparrow]

Starting to think that for the Surge Force Staff, the actual dump stat is Quell Speed. Doesn't Warp Resist allow for more shorts if you aren't actually charging the M2 attack past minimum? That allows you to get more fully buffed attacks from Warp Nexus? Maybe a equal balance between them at 70% with the rest at 80% is the ideal?

[ornate hamlet]

Depending on your intention with it, low warp resist means you get warp unleashed's buff sooner

[spice veldt]

it's only a difference of 2.73% peril quelled between 80% quell speed (12.31% per tick from 100% peril; 9 ticks or 2.25 seconds to reach 0% peril) and 60% quell speed (9.57% per tick from 100% peril; 11 ticks or 2.75 seconds to reach 0% peril), but I do like my quell speed for Quietude (even if the difference is only 0.5 seconds).
And if you prefer to use the surge at 100% peril, you can charge more from a single tick of quelling

[near wyvern]

Weak spot damage roll is a bit unfortunate but it will surely serve well

[toxic crater]

best blessings on the obscurus blaze force sword?

[kind jay]

i assume you mean blessings. slaughterer + unstable power/deflector

perks you'll probably want any combo of flak, maniac, unarmored

[toxic crater]

yeah lol sry

sweet thx a lot

[steel flame]

Well it's happened again. Seems that every build I have an illi sword on eventually ends up going to my combat knife instead

First it was my shredder build, then my purgatus build and now my blazing trauma build

I'll be honest even on hi shock troops missions I just don't find much use for illi unless I'm specifically going for melee. So I just use diemos or combat knife instead

[harsh urchin]

well bringing an illisi with a purg just seems silly

[fathom adder]

Illi is the perfect companion to the surge staff, but I almost never run surge

[fathom adder]

How well does Blazing Trauma work

[lunar hollow]

illisi is a build on its own

[spice veldt]

a bit redundant but not silly if not running warp absorption

[sinful bramble]

So Surge blessing on Trauma staff... Does that still only apply to the primary fire?

[spice veldt]

since you'll only regenerate toughness from melee kills by default

[sinful bramble]

The +2 shots on critical hit, that is

[lunar hollow]

the staff/gun works best as a secondary when u have it

[digital loom]

wildfire is a great softener

if you play with randoms a lot you cant guarantee they are minmaxing gear to hit "all the optimal breakpoints" or whatever, so by just having an enemy lighting itsself on fire for a few seconds is ofteen times enough to push that enemy down into a one shot range for the poor shovel vet killing it

i think it works best when combined with blaze trauma

not only is the spread radius huge, but it increases the number of enemies you can kill on average per trauma blast because they have been softened up by wildfire spread

[steel flame]

I find it to be exceptional. better with AB than purgatus staff.

With how far your range is and it's massive aoe you can get an entire room goin with 6 SB, pop ab for 10sb and it all dies. Its also still a trauma staff so you can lock down all the melee and ranged threats and still be lighting everything on fire

[fathom adder]

Interesting

Better go check if I have Blazing Spirit of any level for Traums staff

[steel flame]

I guess you could go warp battery like pygex does but I prefer wildfire

[steel flame]

You really gonna want blazing 3 and warp nexus 4. Blazing 2 only has a cap of 4 sb rather than 6

[harsh urchin]

how much sniper resist and stamina regen do yall run?

[spice veldt]

i don't run sniper res and just accept my death whenever I get shot
I used to run stamina regen but figured that I don't really need it with the build I have

[safe crystal]

I have 20 sniper res on everything, but no stam regen. I rarely go down to anything that isnt a sniper hiding under the floorboards, should practice more on chaos spawns but cant be bothered to play right now

[steel flame]

None. I run toughness Regen and a few resistances to everything except snipers

[hollow jolt]

Simply ask snipers to not shoot you c:

[harsh urchin]

susge

[trail oar]

Hello fellow Psykers

What's rending

Have a force sword that gets 20% rending

[spice veldt]

So, an attack has a base damage. Then, to each armour type (Unarmoured, Infested, Flak, Unyielding, Carapace, Maniac), an attack deals some percentage% of its base damage to that armour type.
For example, force sword heavies deal 65% damage to carapace; rending% will push that damage to 100%. So, if you had 40% rending, you would deal 65% + 14% = 79% damage to carapace instead, where the 14% comes from (100% - 65%) * 40% = 14%.
Blessings usually offer rending as a self-buff (all attacks that come from you will have rending), though Brittleness is a debuff that gives rending to all attacks going towards that enemy. 1 stack of brittleness gives 5% rending, and an enemy can have at most 8 stacks of brittleness (so 40% rending).

[trail oar]

So 100% rending is pretty good

[spice veldt]

on the force swords, it's a bit more niche since it has pretty good armour modifiers

but it is nice against carapace

prob more useful on the Deimos than the other force swords since you're more likely to use the Deimos' normal attacks against Crushers than the other force swords

Illisi gets a minor benefit since its special attacks deal 75% to Carapace, but I personally don't use the Illisi on Carapace except to finish them off after two Brain Bursts

[untold fiber]

(dont want to interrupt discussion, heard yall got a chat bug fix anyone wanna pm me?)

[open flame]

From what I've learned as Psyker, everyone seems to fit into their roles. One person has to deal with mixed hordes while others deal with ranged combatants, and others have to take down specials all the while, what's cool about the game is that many classes can have the capacity to change their capacities for the 3 pivots depending on how they wanna play the game

[harsh urchin]

how cute

[ornate hamlet]

What chat bug fix?

[calm sapphire]

Felt like I had malice players with me on damnation ☠️

[crystal jolt]

the malice players are getting braver. its more likely than you think

[hollow jolt]

Yeah Heresy is full of shitters now

I do low-inten Damnation for funsies

[calm sapphire]

On the last part of the mission when u need to scan the plaques, I couldn't even focus on obj cause they got down every few minutes

[hollow jolt]

Heresy is just that fucked

[calm sapphire]

this was damnation

[hollow jolt]

Oh...

[vestal rose]

heresy was always harder than damnation

[hollow jolt]

Vet that takes over 1000 damage lol

[vestal rose]

till the people dragging heresy games down got so confident with being carried they figured they were set for damnation ;-;

[calm sapphire]

worst parts was when I had to solo clutch 2 times

as a psyker

[hollow jolt]

Lol yeah, I think you're running into the Vets in #veteran-class

[trail oar]

Hey peeps, how does the redacted penances work?

Can i just not complete those?

[hollow jolt]

People are unironically not using Toughness curios as Vet

[safe crystal]

Some of them require you to make a private lobby, but you can still complete them

The ones that require private should have the text on them

[trail oar]

Thanks

[formal ridge]

was just trying it out... but with surge staff

[formal ridge]

thats the best parts of games

[calm sapphire]

arguably yes tho it can be stressful while rewarding at the same time if u manage to clutch a game

[calm sapphire]

Hmm I think I might switch deimos for Ilisi since I kinda hate the lock in animation when u charge hit

[late yew]

I don't get what makes autopistol so powerful

Is blaze away mandatory?

I only have pinning fire

[spice veldt]

pinning fire is the big one

100% power at t4 and it's extremely easy to stack

blaze away is there, though you need to shoot a bit to get it up to full stacks

[cosmic sigil]

Why would you

[late yew]

What is opinion on crit void with blazing spirit or surge?

[cosmic sigil]

On the topic of void staff, the sustained fire blessing only works on lmb right? It's as shitty as in other weapons?

[cosmic sigil]

I went back from unstable to deflector yesterday. Sometime pugs do not take care of the shooters as fast as possible :/

[hollow jolt]

Multiple feats that buff toughness and give toughness resist

A better question is why wouldn't you

[cosmic sigil]

Well. Nothing is really bad.

[digital loom]

i tend to prefer unstable over slaughterer since i wind up dueling a lot

unfortunately that is the way it is in pubs

[cosmic sigil]

You can stack toughness, or hp or like me Stam and stam Regen

I never have a toughness problem with confirmed kill and sustained fire. But I'm very careful with stamina management

I literally run +6 Stam and +1hp (i do have +5% toughness on all my curios so it's like a fourth curio)

Your base toughness is already excellent and you can maintain regen quite easily. Stam on the other hand..

[cosmic sigil]

Yeah... I literally have a set for premades now. By dueling you mean killing lone targets?

[digital loom]

sometimes, but also killing crusher swarms on my own because team is wiped

[cosmic sigil]

Maybe I should put unstable instead of slaughterer on that cursed blade.

[cosmic sigil]

What staff do you use to deal with them?

[late yew]

slat is thebest blessing

[cosmic sigil]

I know I know. But maybe trying something different...

I can go back to slaughterer if I want

[ornate hamlet]

All force swords have their own separate version of the mortis operative skin

So do staves apparently

[digital loom]

i have been using voidstrike lately but traditionally i use trauma

the key to dealing with groups of those assholes is to clean off the trash around them

[cosmic sigil]

What is your setup for the void strike?

Feats / perks / blessings

[steel flame]

Blazing void is terrible

[spice veldt]

it's a crime indeed

though I don't like the mortis obscurus skin because the model is shifted slightly forwards and kinda looks a bit loose

[ornate hamlet]

The game's sitting here like "you're only getting one model and it's red or blue" for the dockets skins

Lemme check real quick if it's on the autoguns too

[late yew]

and surge?

[steel flame]

Surge doesn't have blazing

[late yew]

obviously

And?

[steel flame]

Would be nice if it did though

[steel flame]

It would certainly look cool, but I don't think it really hits enough targets to make it gane changing

[ornate hamlet]

It even gets a model change on this one

[steel flame]

Then again it's hard to know whether or not it would be cool without testing it, who knows

[ornate hamlet]

Hm, it's kind of a pattern

[steel flame]

Oh are you talking about surge on void? I heard it's good spam

[ornate hamlet]

The agri IAG gets the same handguard and barrel cover

The grip still is the same as the default, and so is the stock

As is the magazine

[cosmic sigil]

@spice veldt

[ornate hamlet]

So it's an interesting mix of both models as if the weapons were created similarly to the skins

[spice veldt]

i don't believe it does last time I checked it on the RMB

[ornate hamlet]

Mix and match stuff

[spice veldt]

on the LMB yeah it's as shit

[cosmic sigil]

Need to hunt for faster charge then

[late yew]

... obviously, what else?

[steel flame]

Dunno never used it

[noble socket]

so I'm playing my spark'ead tonight and I just noticed the dueling swords have a dodge limit on both defense and mobility stats. Is it really a feature?

does that mean I'm capped at whichever is the lowest?

[safe crystal]

Voidstrike does get damage from sustained fire on the RMB, but its mediocre at best

[spice veldt]

oh right the reason it doesn't work is because the RMB fires too slow

[cosmic sigil]

That's sad. Looks like the helbore problem no?

[safe crystal]

Oh, huh. It doesnt work anymore

It used to work

[gilded radish]

Psykers should have force spears

[karmic delta]

Yes yes yes

[gilded radish]

Charging into a hoard and making a giant kebab

That would be so cool

[cosmic sigil]

Can't you cleave with a Deimos h2 already?

[gilded radish]

Yea but spears

Longer reach

[sick isle]

Psyker should have a beastmaster subclass

[gilded radish]

Spin around smacking everything

[karmic delta]

Aint there a 2 handed force sword datamined

And a 2 handed force sword in one of the trailers

[gilded radish]

i don't know

i dont really watch trailers

[cosmic sigil]

@lethal folio said it was a debug weapon but apparently some movesets have been implemented recently. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[karmic delta]

Movesets implemented? Its coming soon HOPIUM

[cosmic sigil]

That's why I summoned him. He knows much

#zealot-class message

Here

[steel flame]

I think it averages

[proper raven]

Siblings question, does Warp Charges increase all damage or just Brain Burst damage?

Also how worried should I get that I kind of like the sound a heretic's skull makes when it goes
-crunch, pop-

[kind jay]

all

[proper raven]

[steel flame]

Welcome to the almost definitely heresy club

[cosmic sigil]

That wasn't like that a first iirc

[vague quail]

Does brittleness not increase the damage of the trauma staff?

[cold geode]

nope

[vague quail]

Shoot Alt
flat
1.000 both - Unarmoured, Flak, Unyielding, Carapace, Maniac
0.750 both - Infested, Void Shield

Fancy that.

[near wyvern]

Brittleness and Rending only affect attacks that deal less damage than the base value. However they do stack additively so if you have a full uncanny strike going on and someone is applying brittleness on the enemy you can deal more than the base damage, but only on targets that do not take full damage to begin with.

[near wyvern]

We are already. Look at your team mates.

Bunch of animals

[near wyvern]

Actually it's not the worst if you do a lot of mid charges.

Flurry Peril is the best DPS during hordes, there is no doubt in that, but to get the most oomph out of it you have to find a good line. Quite often the enemies are scattered around so what ends up happening is that you shoot through a couple and then hit a wall.

There is also a wind up before you get it going, so if you get hit or get pressured by melee it will end your combo.

With Nexus Spirit, using a mix of low and mid charges combined with quell cancelling will deal comparable DPS in real games as you are more effective when the enemies are scattered around and deal better DPS for the first few shots of your barrage. It also scales better with Kinetic Shielding if you like to use that and Quietitude since you are generating more peril.

The regular game play is that you use a full charge to open with, then perform quell cancelled mid charges but if you get pressured by melee, you perform quell cancelled low charges near you which is fast enough to keep things away from you (flurry is not fast enough since you have to animation cancel to be fast enough).

I have actually had many horde fights where I kill so much stuff with Nexus Spirit that it's hard to get past 50% peril even without Transfer Peril.

The rule still applies that the more you charge your void, the more raw DPS it will do, however, any charging above one shot is wasted DPS as well.

I would say I recommend Flurry Peril to anyone who is interested in Void since it's a lot easier to craft and easier to play correctly, but Nexus Spirit Void is definitely a viable option for more advanced users.

[steel flame]

its a far cry from being a decent option though. the fire is almost a nonfactor in your damage with how few you spread it too

at least trauma has the benifit of lighting up an entire zip code when it crits

when shooting void like a void and not shooting it at the ground like a discount trauma you wont really be hitting all that many enemies with the fire comparativly

and if youre gonna shoot the ground

well....i geuss that works

[potent echo]

How does void deal with 3-4 ragers leading the pack? They tend to shrug off shots all the time

[steel flame]

it staggers them pretty good

half charges knock unarmored ones on their ass

flack ones kinda shrug it off though

[harsh urchin]

Hmm i kinda wanna try giving slaught-unstable a go on my illisi

[meager cedar]

It's very good

Build slaughter stacks on hordes, rev up specials for an unstable stack or two, one-slap a mutant as it charges in

[wheat quartz]

Finally, Hadron, finally.

I even like the +25% infested. Praise the Omnissiah.

[wheat quartz]

Worth it to keep going and try to get a flak/maniac version?

[raven gate]

its fine if u dont like deflector

[wheat quartz]

I feel like I don't need it to live so I might as well hit harder

Guess I should put resources into curios instead, this thing is as good as I'm reasonably going to get until they release red weapons probably

[worn heron]

Which is stronger, Warp Battery or Kinetic Flayer when using Voidstrike staff?

[west galleon]

I personally prefer battery for the extra % dmg overall

Dunno about the actual values though

[feral verge]

Warp battery

Consistent extra damage that will almost always be there

Whereas flayer is random chance and has a cooldown

[worn heron]

Thnx

[cosmic sigil]

Yes. Infested will help you get those sweet slaughterer stacks easily without activating during a horde. Unarmored could have been better but flak won't really be a problem tbh.

[hasty valve]

Moving on to Psyker from soloing Zealot for 200 hours so I’m utterly clueless what to aim for in terms of best builds for Heresy+. Any consensus here on best overall builds? Especially for staffs and their perks/blessings and feats I’m extra lost.

[raven gate]

theres plenty. short answer
pick either demios or illisi force sword
and pick either a staff or a shredder pistol.
Outside of these, you are not using meta, but can still be useful

[raven gate]

suddenly 4 weapons with t4 blessings and slaughterer 4 shows up twice
wtf

[tacit jungle]

I've been using the obscurus with t4 slaughterer for a while (because I don't have anything else) and it's been good enough at a few damnation runs, I mostly do heresy tho

[raven gate]

truth is obscurus is not a bad weapon. we were all using them before illisi and demios came out.
But sad truth is they are now outclassed by the new versions

[tacit jungle]

very true, just trying to point out if that's what you can get your hands on then it'll work as well)

[karmic delta]

Oh my god the devil claws are so bad

[floral relic]

Wait what there was only one Force Sword on launch?

Also, any tips on how to use Demios?

I feel like I don’t know what the sword does

Like I try to use the charged light, then die to spam damage

Do you need to like, clear the horde first before using it?

[compact cargo]

For us psykers maybe

They have good crit synergy

so zealots are best with them, they also don't inconvienience vet too much depending on secundary

issue they got is dogshit damage against flak and carapace

[raven gate]

i see devil claws primarily as a survival weapon
they have great mobility and dodge count.
but u will not contribute nearly as much dmg as other alternative weapons

and for psykers....we got force swords. quite possibly the best mobility weapon thats also pretty deadly

[karmic delta]

Yep. Its especially a problem where youre up against Dreg Bruisers

the damage to flak is so bad

I switched back to Deimos afterwards

[harsh gust]

istg cliffhanger is a pain in the ass

all the poxers die to teammates before i get to push em off

[spice veldt]

yeah, there was only one force sword
On the Deimos, you don't need to use the special that much because your normal attacks already deal so much damage. The stabs (1st light and 2nd heavy) have a higher base damage than the other attacks.
The special attack is more niche, being used either for the stagger or the bonus damage it deals against Flak.

getting locked in place is a real problem with the obscurus/Deimos, and it's the main reason that nobody likes the special

[compact cargo]

Weren't you able to slide out of it in the past?

[spice veldt]

you can still do it I believe

as long as you're in a slide when the special sticks into somebody

[compact cargo]

Perfect, new weapon focus

[cyan notch]

i like the special

special is good for specials and maulers and ragers and crushers

[raven gate]

yeah but some ppl prefer to use the 2nd hevy to kill anything like that.
I personally still use it, but u gotta be careful when u do though

[floral relic]

I see, I don't think I'm good at learning the Deimos for now. I'm just gonna stick to Illisi lol

Also if I want to use Illisi, is Voidstrike staff fine?

Got a lucky one with Melk, don't really have anything better so i've been using it

[karmic delta]

just spam the first light attacks since its the most damaging

Light attack > Block > Light attack > Repeat

[floral relic]

I see

[karmic delta]

Combo when youre in a pinch

I usually reserve the heavy attacks. Especially the 2nd heavy for charged attacks

[raven gate]

also light -> heavy -> repeat for heavy targets

[karmic delta]

yep

[broken carbon]

imo its the best, the only thinkg you really gotta learn is getting to the second heavy for some attacks

hordes arent too big of a problem with just default combos, dodging, and the occasional push

first light does the most damage, so you can do light into heavy which gives you the 2 highest damage attacks it has

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ggn55j30A

this video does a better job of explaining it than i ever could

[lethal folio]

Voidstrike actually feels useful with nexus/surge.

25% of the time, things die.

[graceful eagle]

it doesn't sound very useful when 75% of the time things dont die

[austere sandal]

reroll maniac or unyielding?

[raven gate]

tough choice. id say u cant go wrong with rerolling either

or even leaving it as is

maybe turn unyielding into carapace to kill crushers and maulers faster
or even just weakspot dmg

[lethal cave]

check mission board
it's all sniper gauntlets and vent purge
Huh
not the worse modifier spam in the world but still
wish there was at least A shock gaunt 💀

[floral relic]

This is like my best Illisi, if I want to upgrade it a bit what should I do?

Replace Riposte 3 with Slaughter 2?

Or Unstable Power 2?

[shy prairie]

S2

[floral relic]

Slaughter 2? kk

[minor verge]

uhm if i may ask, why only slaughter 2, is it only because you dont currently have a higher one or does it have a purpose to use a lower tier skill? No offense meant in any way

[floral relic]

Don't have 3 or 4

[minor verge]

ah ok

[floral relic]

I'm long time Darktide player
Been playing since like... last Tuesday...?

[minor verge]

i also only got slaughter 3 currently

[floral relic]

Actually probably been playing for like, 9 days or something lol

[minor verge]

i got it when the main thing came out with the beta stuff and went on a grind maxing out all my chars and then took a long break from the game till i recently started playing again

[floral relic]

Also which Perk do you think I should reroll?

[minor verge]

im "only" at ~140 hours or so

[floral relic]

Actually I don't even know what perk to reroll for lmao

neat lol

[karmic delta]

New tattoos looks dope

[spice veldt]

I'd reroll weakspot damage into either maniac or flak

[minor verge]

weakspot damage if my knowledge is correct only applies to the weakspot damage portion so elite damage is better i think?

unsure about that tho

[spice veldt]

ye

[floral relic]

Cool, I'll keep Elite damage then, let's see what I can reroll into

[spice veldt]

if you do 100 base dmg and 120 weakspot damage, +10% weakspot will only add 2 damage

[near wyvern]

Yes, same for crit damage

[floral relic]

wait wtf?
I thought weakspot damage meant 120 + (10% of 120)!

[spice veldt]

if only

[near wyvern]

So you would think but why code it so when you can confuse people

[spice veldt]

that's what a normal person expects when they see "+10% weakspot dmg"

[floral relic]

Continue to roll?

[minor verge]

yes

[near wyvern]

The correct wording would be +10% weakspot bonus damage but that would be just too clear to write by Fatshark

[floral relic]

btw I think I heard after you reroll a certain amount of time, reroll becomes free?

[minor verge]

go for either +25% Flak or +25% maniac

[floral relic]

I see

[ornate hamlet]

get the reroll mod to spare you the pain

[spice veldt]

ye, the cost of perk rerolls decreases in cost until it goes to 0

[floral relic]

Ah

Always thought it increases

[raven gate]

dude, get reroll until rarity mod

[ornate hamlet]

Set it to reroll and alt-tab or go make some choccy milk

[floral relic]

Yeah I guess I should

[near wyvern]

When you get into fixing your curios you can't live without the reroll mod

Most tier 4s have like 1% chance so at times you need to roll like 300 rolls to get what you want

[minor verge]

i'd personally go for maniac damage since the warp charge attack helps you against armor ( i think)

[floral relic]

btw what are Flak again?

Like, those normal armored stuff?

[near wyvern]

All scabs

[minor verge]

Flak is most enemies with a bit of armor

[karmic delta]

Yeah Flak + Maniac is good combo

[floral relic]

Neat

What's Maniac?

[ornate hamlet]

A very good song

[spice veldt]

it's only the Deimos/Obscurus special that deals bonus damage to flak

[near wyvern]

Dreg rager, flamers, bombers mutant, trapper are maniacs

[floral relic]

I see

[spice veldt]

illisi's special deals 100% to flak

[floral relic]

Illisi want maniac because fuck Dreg rager?

[spice veldt]

but I'd probably prefer maniac nevertheless for the exclusive purpose of killing mutants

[floral relic]

I see

[near wyvern]

Anything goes for illisi as long as you have Slaughterer

[minor verge]

true

[near wyvern]

But maniac is nice just so you can dispatch muties faster cause they can really fuck your team over

[floral relic]

Neat

I'm just gonna do Flak, Elite, then Slaugther, Deflector

Should be good enough for a newb

[near wyvern]

Yeah that will do

[floral relic]

Yeah better than my last sword

It was like "we have sword at home"

[minor verge]

aside from it only being deflector 3, the moment you get slaughter 4 on it i'd say its basically a god roll

are there stat value sums over 380?

cuz i havent seen it yet

[near wyvern]

My swords at home 😅

[spice veldt]

380 is the hard limit as of right now

[floral relic]

Neat

Ok I have a functioning sword now!

[near wyvern]

Yeah that will do, once you find a better Slaughterer just slap the patch on

When you get Slaugherer 3 or 4 on that I would reroll to maniac

[floral relic]

Neat!

Also any recommendations for this Voidstrike staff?

[near wyvern]

Funny thing, the most optimal Illisi at the moment would have total base stats as 320

[floral relic]

The perks feel a bit oof

[floral relic]

Hun? You want less Warp Res?

[spice veldt]

maybe if you weren't using it as your main weapon

I would cry if I had to use an illisi with a lower warp res

[near wyvern]

Some builds benefit a lot for having a way to get up fast and you can spam Illisi special so with low warp resist you get high fast.

You can anyways special up at 99 so warp resist doesn't really matter for the function of the sword.

[spice veldt]

I could tolerate as low as 51% to get 4 swings off

[floral relic]

I see

[spice veldt]

or is that the threshold for 5 specials

[lunar hollow]

this is mine

[floral relic]

Also I don't actually have any good Blessings for this staff
Which Perk should I replace?

[lunar hollow]

i enjoy the high warp res

cuz like

ur gettin more out of those big strong swings

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like the warp resist because I don't use the special

[lunar hollow]

than like a handful of power %

[spice veldt]

yeah and spamming that shit into elites

[floral relic]

Where was the sus psyker gif again?

[lunar hollow]

if i wanna build peril in a horde i just spam special lights like im a filthy psword user

[floral relic]

https://streamable.com/tb0hug

[lunar hollow]

if only you could turn off the chance to quell peril on kill

[floral relic]

sus illisi

[lunar hollow]

that would be nice

[spice veldt]

walk up in dis bitch

[minor verge]

this is mine (+25 Maniacs, 10% to weakspot, Slaughter 3 and Deflector 4)

[lunar hollow]

i think i should reroll unarmored on the illisi

but like

its 25%...

[near wyvern]

Warp Nexus to Warp Flurry and elite damage into flak and you are good to go

[minor verge]

really dislike the weakspot dmg but i had to reroll the other fkin sprint boost

[ornate hamlet]

runescape

[spice veldt]

RuneScape gaming

[lunar hollow]

https://streamable.com/wuwdf9

@spice veldt are u proud

[floral relic]

Neat, don't have Flurry so I'll just keep Nexus for now, I don't actually have anything better
Infested enemies are the trash mobs right? Seems like a decent enough perk

[spice veldt]

not a special heavy but it will do

[lunar hollow]

im scared when i fight hounds ok

[spice veldt]

smh

[lunar hollow]

i dont like the vulnerability of charging the special up

[spice veldt]

if you don't special heavy, then others can steal your dog kill when you don't one-shot it

[lunar hollow]

hmmmm

true

[spice veldt]

10/10 reason

I generally prefer to activate the special anyways for the cleave in case I need to smack a dog through a horde

[near wyvern]

Nah you don't need infested with void, it's easy one shot without it. Ideally you get +flak +unarmoured so you can deal better with ranged enemies. Elites and specials take anyway quite a long time to kill with it. You only really hit them to CC, you use BB if you intend to kill asap. That being said I recommend running Kinetic Barrage with Void.

[spice veldt]

I just need to pray that I notice the dog quick enough

[lunar hollow]

if i have to deal with a hound in a horde i just pray to god my ult isnt on cooldown

and no this is not an invitation to shit on me for not using aura fuck u

[spice veldt]

smh

non-psyk aura

[lunar hollow]

communion + battery for the 1 shot bbs my beloved

[near wyvern]

It's not the dog that I am scared of. It's the trapper that is hidden behind 8 crushers.

[minor verge]

Sheeesh

[lunar hollow]

the two side-by-side bulwarks in a corridor manifesting out of thin air when a trapper nets someone in a horde:

[spice veldt]

u can do some of the oneshots with 4 warp charges and high enough peril with warp unleashed

[near wyvern]

Communion has nothing to do with one shots

[lunar hollow]

'

"some"

[lunar hollow]

warp charge stays at 6

[spice veldt]

flamers n bursters are the ones I can think of

[lunar hollow]

much less stacks babysitting

[near wyvern]

There are other ways

But depends on build really

[lunar hollow]

its lazy gameplay so i can focus on stroking my illisi until the enemies explode

i like the consistent results over benefits being determined by elite kills i get/random procs of flayer

psyker ult also just isnt that useful to me

[spice veldt]

flayer isn't that random

[near wyvern]

If you stroke it hard enough you can see a glimpse of your beloved

[spice veldt]

ur not useful

[lunar hollow]

sorry bro im a loner

aint got no beloveds

[ornate hamlet]

savant chads stay winning

[lunar hollow]

ive been nice to u today

dont do this to me 😦

[spice veldt]

not running aura and doesn't see psyker's ult as useful smh

[lunar hollow]

im used to playing every other class

where u dont get to just kinda knock stuff over for free

i dont put myself in situations that rely on it

and when i do i dont have the ult off cooldown

and thus i eat shit

[near wyvern]

Kinetic Deflection push spam

[lunar hollow]

true

i fucking hate force sword push though

i would pay money for it to be a regular shove

[spice veldt]

I don't run stam or kd so I rely on my ult to save myself

[lunar hollow]

kd my beloved

you come in useful like

once every 3 games

but u have saved me

[spice veldt]

force Sword's push is a normal push, but the push-attack is a single-target stagger

[lunar hollow]

the push feels off to me

compared to every other weapon

[spice veldt]

prob just the animation

[lunar hollow]

the animation fucks with my brain

[spice veldt]

smh

and the fact that your entire vision is blocked if you don't have the mod to disable the effects

[lunar hollow]

i should probably download that already

kinda weird to play with 99% of screen effects disabled but still have that on

[spice veldt]

tsk tsk tsk

[lunar hollow]

shut up

i dont need ur judgemental attitude

[spice veldt]

tsk

[floral relic]

I feel like Force Sword's push, pushes enemies "towards" you?

Instead of away?

But yeah probs just the animation

[near wyvern]

You become twice as good force sword user the moment you disable the effects that cover your entire screen

[floral relic]

But Force Swords do have a bigger range on the normal push right?

[minor verge]

it looks like it he does some sort of pull but the enemy goes away from you

[near wyvern]

Yes, bigger angle and range

[spice veldt]

the push is the same as every other melee as far as I can tell

oh really?

[near wyvern]

Yeah

Try a knife push and compare

The force sword push used to cost peril as well because of the increased range and angle

But they removed that peril cost from the push

[floral relic]

Neat

[lethal folio]

Forcesword push radius is about 10% bigger than most weapons, but the strength and angles are the same.

[karmic delta]

Im a psyker in a match with 2 shredder and 1 bolter veterans

time to just chill

[minor verge]

well i just died cause my teammate didnt wait for me

i wanted to push back burster

he shot it in my face

bruh

[karmic delta]

I hate when that shit happens

[spice veldt]

the force sword's push does seem to perform better than the knife https://streamable.com/h2y09q

[karmic delta]

I do notice how more powerful force push are than normal pushes

[floral relic]

I'm honestly still pretty suprised by how good the push is on the knife
And how much it hits 360

[karmic delta]

arent all push? hits all enemies from all directions?

[floral relic]

Yeah didn't know that

I always thought push only hits stuff in front

Turns out both block and push are 360?

[spice veldt]

ye

though the efficiency/strength of your block/push is better at the front

[karmic delta]

Dude these 3 Vets are literally carrying me right now

My contribution is jackshit

Literally just along for the ride when I saw 2 Shredder and 1 Bolter

[lethal folio]

Knife push is not good.

push is normally 45 inner 180 outer, knive is 18 inner 180 outer with a weaker inner push.

[minor verge]

man you should be able to convert diamantine to palasteel

[twilit flicker]

They should convert extra exp into dockets, it doesn't have to be much as long as it's a difference.
Imagine how many dockets you could get with +exp and +dockets curios.

[minor verge]

i dont need dockets i just need palasteel for weapon upgrades, although yeah xp should yield something after lvl 30

[twilit flicker]

Well, something more interesting than that idea, i would hope.

Like diamantine, it doesn't have to convert, the same with exp.

Like what if diamantine was used to change the map conditions for extra rewards hehe.

[minor verge]

or just be like transmutable to palasteel man i neeeeed more palasteeel

bruh

[royal birch]

Nah, when you get all you want, it's just collecting dust there 🤷

[twilit flicker]

What if you could use diamantine to add extra dogs!

[raven gate]

calm down there satan

[minor verge]

"when"

ive been trying the whole week to get slaughter 4 on one of my swords and ive had like 20 swords with exorcist 3 deflector 4 and im getting effin sick of it

[royal birch]

well it's 0,5-1 attempt per one damnation run so it takes some time for sure yea but at least you have something to aim for

[spice veldt]

there's not plasteel to go around at least for me

since I'm dumping most of my mats into curios currently

[twilit flicker]

Me too.

[spice veldt]

I've swapped my curio configuration about 3 times around, so plasteel has been lacking

[royal birch]

just a week? lol my zealot took a month of 4-6 hrs per day playing to get the thrust 4 to TH. Got all other T4 bless before that too.
RNG can be a b... or a god to be worshiped

[twilit flicker]

We need a boss that is literally two bosses at once. Like another chaos spawn but when you kill it it makes more!

[spice veldt]

blessings aren't that bad nowadays, but curios still stuck ass

[royal birch]

agreed with curios

[twilit flicker]

I've melted all of my wound curios. Sad?

One of them even had +20% curio

[royal birch]

No, wounds are not to be used. Learn to keep yourself on your feet and get more from hp and toughness curios

[twilit flicker]

But what if one of the perks was +100 coolness. Imagine how cool I could be!

[royal birch]

dance dance dance

[minor verge]

Best i got so far is this one, 20 HP 5 HP 8% Ordo 30 Toughness Regen

Bruh

Damnation

[idle aurora]

Ogryn with 6 wounds and shield on damnation is like a 2nd coming of Jesus

[severe peak]

He’s ready to be used to mop the floor clean

Cleanliness is next to godliness

[royal birch]

as a mop*

I mean with so many wounds, you really are prepared to be down a lot

[minor verge]

guess who just got yeeted off a cliff by a mutie 💀

[royal birch]

lmao

[minor verge]

useful wounds

[graceful eagle]

im running with +%toughness on my vet, might as well switch for +3 wounds just to annoy people lol

[near wyvern]

I use 2 toughness one stam on vet and toughness regen on all 3

For psyker I have 2 toughness 1 stam with toughness regen on all three

[crystal jolt]

i played with a 6 wound shieldogryn with a rumbler on damn once. he had like 500 extra levels.

[polar grail]

Why do some psykers have red eyes and why dont I

[graceful eagle]

you need Vermintide on your account

[idle aurora]

You mean orange ones, or actuall red?

[polar grail]

glowing ones

[polar grail]

I have it but I dont have the eyes on psyker

[minor verge]

ive only ever seen glowing blue

[polar grail]

is it just own vermintide?

I have both games

I havent played sienna once or maybe theres some other objective I'm missing?

I do have all the hair and tatoos from vermintide

[idle aurora]

I have glowing blue/orange but never saw red

[polar grail]

I mean its probably orange, hard for me red v orange at times

[idle aurora]

2 that glow

[karmic delta]

Bro on that Illuminati shit

[polar grail]

Yeah I dont have the 2nd one

guess ill have to talk to fatshark about it

[minor verge]

Cyclops gang

[idle aurora]

Hmm, that's strange, i only have vt2, and i played it for like 3 hours. Im not sure you even need to own any vt games

[graceful eagle]

i also have both vt games but didnt get any cosmetics from pack
https://i.redd.it/ca9s14bk4l7a1.jpg

[polar grail]

probably contact support and they can get us hooked up I imagine

[idle aurora]

Bruh, i have all of them, fatshark moment xd

[raven gate]

hey me too

[tropic vigil]

are toughness curios worth it or should i just stick to HP? i am getting rid of wounds, but dont know which to swap to. already have one 21 + 5 hp curio.

i cant imagine 17 would make that much of a difference when i get shot at vs another 26 hp

[coarse dagger]

3 diff purg staff crafted to final stage and all got terryfing barrage as second blessing no tier 4. hadron does hate me

not what i wanted but okay hadron i guess you heard me

[spice veldt]

the other benefit of toughness besides having a larger buffer is that you regenerate more from your feats or melee kills; whether you make use of this benefit will decide whether you bring it over HP

[coarse dagger]

what do we get on tier4 anyway anything good on purg staff?

[spice veldt]

warp flurry, warp nexus, and terrifying barrage

[flint pawn]

Just got this as a mission reward, good enough to keep? I've never run Purgatus

[coarse dagger]

ah okay so only warp nexus is really of importance at that tier

[coarse dagger]

yeh id keep it