psyker-class

[feral verge]

yeah i go hard in the paint

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, the scoreboard mod really does need to reweight some of its scoring.

[spice veldt]

i pretty much just ignore the summary scores

[hidden crystal]

Or, to be honest, do away with it entirely.

[obtuse moth]

you can turn it off

[spice veldt]

the only reason why i keep them in my scoreboard to visually separate the categories

[feral verge]

yeah i dont look at the total scores or whatever

[obtuse moth]

i keep it on just because it makes a good divider and i found it easier and faster to find what i want when i turned it back on

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[feral verge]

the stats i really only care about are damage taken and damage dealt

[obtuse moth]

i have it all broken down by melee and ranged by enemy type

[acoustic osprey]

i care about plasteel gathered

[hidden crystal]

It's not about whether I can turn it off, it's about whether it encourages people to not use a med station we're never going to be able to come back to because oh no, that would be bad for their score.

[feral verge]

after that, it's disabler/special/elite kills and boss damage

[feral verge]

look at my plasteel

[obtuse moth]

also explosives triggered is a big one

i like the damage taken one to see how i'm playing

[acoustic osprey]

ok

[spice veldt]

i like the # of ranged enemies that i killed in a match

[feral verge]

dont say it arcotash

[spice veldt]

l

[feral verge]

we will not mention the diamantine

[spice veldt]

ess than mines

[feral verge]

can we ban this guy

[obtuse moth]

people like that also pull every enemy and run ahead and spam all the ammo to inflate their score, bad people gonna find excuses to play bad

[acoustic osprey]

i didn't even kno that affected the score

[spice veldt]

i would imagine those people to be in the niche

[obtuse moth]

it weighs things weird like times blocked anyway

[spice veldt]

since i expect people to want to win

[obtuse moth]

its completely meaningless

[acoustic osprey]

that's assuming everyone is running scoreboard

[raw swift]

is this worth buying?

[feral verge]

yes

[obtuse moth]

not from melk

[raw swift]

whwy

[feral verge]

exorcist into slaughterer

[spice veldt]

it has +maniac and deflector, but its stat distribution is meh; buy it if it's better than what you have

[hidden crystal]

I'm not sure what the internal maths is, but yes, I think most of the stats have some influence, but it definitely seems to give too much weight to certain things.

[feral verge]

it will be a solid sword

[obtuse moth]

its a 340 without t4 perks or t4 blessings

[feral verge]

until osmething better is found

[raw swift]

is better?

[obtuse moth]

its not worth spending limited currency on

[feral verge]

340 is okay so long as warp resist is low

[acoustic osprey]

if you already have a good weapon, i wouldn't buy that from melk and hold out

[spice veldt]

stat distribution on that is also eh and none of the perks or blessing are great

[acoustic osprey]

oops

[obtuse moth]

you can get something of that quality pretty easily

[feral verge]

oh i just noticed the finesse

[obtuse moth]

yeah

[feral verge]

i'd get it still, if oyu had melk bucks to spare

[raw swift]

DO I BUYY IT OR NOT, i dont play pysker much anyway

[feral verge]

i like to keep 10k saved

how much melkies do you have

[obtuse moth]

don't buy, save for t4 blessings or excellent base weapons

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, that's what i do

[obtuse moth]

also btw its worth including how much it costs in your screenshot

[raw swift]

what should the build be

[raw swift]

2.5k

[obtuse moth]

will tell us what store it comes from and how much

[obtuse moth]

do not get from melk either, this one is worse

[raw swift]

ok

what should the build be tho

[feral verge]

what staff are you running

[acoustic osprey]

that's my favorite one

[meager cliff]

I need yalls help with a decision real quick, I have some left over money in my steam wallet and I wanna get a headpiece for my psyker but can't decide which one

[acoustic osprey]

you should get a regular gun tho so you can steal ammo

[feral verge]

i'd use kinetic barrage

instead of quicken

[acoustic osprey]

i vote mask

[feral verge]

the only time i like quicken is for my pure melee build

[raw swift]

anything else

[feral verge]

(because it lets me get warp charges faster, becasue it has no other way to generate charges quickly)

[raw swift]

to change

[feral verge]

warp battery can net you extra damage

[hidden crystal]

Well, I like the Deimos Rebreather more of those, but then I'm weird. (My psyker mostly runs around in fairly low level Penance cosmetics).

[feral verge]

i dont find kinetic flayer to be all that amazing

cuz it;s random and has a cooldown

[raw swift]

ok then what to replace

warp battery?

[spice veldt]

flayer is mostly fine as long as long as you're not running Quicken or Ascendant Blaze

[feral verge]

take warp battery

instead of flayer

[raw swift]

this is the build

[feral verge]

bruh a PEG LEG??? ??

[raw swift]

anythin gmore to change

[raw swift]

sweettt

[hidden crystal]

Warp Battery is good even if you're already hitting breakpoints, because it means you've got longer before your warp charge stack decays to any specific break point.

Including during all those tediously long elevator rides, or when someone has to check every fragging corner in case there's a tiny morsel of plasteel in it and won't get in the karking airlock.

[broken carbon]

that’s me!

[acoustic osprey]

i check every corner

i steal ammo, i leave my group, i don't heal

[broken carbon]

are you sure you aren’t a zealot player

[spice veldt]

god gave us an ult that can save us from dogs and trappers

[acoustic osprey]

i just cycle depending on who has lowest melks

[spice veldt]

of course I'm going to roam alone

[acoustic osprey]

lol i walk into every dh when soemone types it or pings it

[hidden crystal]

I probably need to bind "Some of us have warp charges bleeding away here" to a QuickChat hotkey.

[broken carbon]

warp charge warp shmarge

[spice veldt]

at least I still have free slots on my block list

[broken carbon]

honestly as psyker i don’t really care that much about warp charges decaying

worrying about it is annoying, and i run the 10% BB on hit anyway with a trauma staff so i get them without trying often enough

plus kinetic barrage makes it not an issue

[hidden crystal]

I'm often more fussed about it because it affects the power of your ult.

[broken carbon]

that’s why i use kinetic barrage

[hidden crystal]

I don't fret over it too much, but gods damn the penance to maintain maximum charges for five minutes is... actually, I suspect it's actually impossible on many sections of many maps just because of the time elevators and airlocks take.

[acoustic osprey]

it's easier now

[broken carbon]

oh i got it without trying a while ago lmfao, the map with the big bridge on it is where i got it

[hidden crystal]

I'd actually bet that, by large majority, most people completed that one on Enclavum Baross.

[broken carbon]

i can’t remember any of the map names lmao

[acoustic osprey]

it's hard

[spice veldt]

i got mines on consignment yard

[acoustic osprey]

vt2 was easier with names

[hidden crystal]

Because that's the one map with no lifts or airlocks.

So there is a constant flow.

At least as long as the fragging vet doesn't assume the blue halo around that lone poxwalker between larger encounters is a targeting marker.

[broken carbon]

lmfao

yeah

[hidden crystal]

But yeah, maximum warp charges (particularly with Warp Battery adding more) is great for the ult, even if you ignore the extra damage on your other attacks.

[broken carbon]

you mean for quicken/ascendant blaze?

or does it increase stagger as well?

[hidden crystal]

The ult actually has more stagger with more warp charges.

[ornate hamlet]

What would be the main dump stat for surge?

[broken carbon]

probably mobility

[ornate hamlet]

Assuming quell, but idrk how much the damage bonuses actually make the difference

[spice veldt]

crit bonus if you don't use the LMB

[ornate hamlet]

Doesnt have mobility

[broken carbon]

oh

welp

[ornate hamlet]

Oh does the rmb not use the crit bonus at all?

[spice veldt]

it does, but crits don't particularly give much of a boost on the RMB

except on unarmoured or infested, but that's just because of the rending bonus from crits because of the low damage that the RMB does against those armour types anyways

[ornate hamlet]

I c

[broken quail]

Started trying quicken and am deeply amused by almost negating my cooldown at 6 warp charged along with double warp charge gain, the stun is a little weak but is just strong enough with enough aoe to let me kill the specials that made me use it. I find ascending blaze a bit of a waste when hordes are rarely a threat, it's just to delete hordes for fun or to get charges from your/allies purgatus staffs. Kinetic barrage still rocks though

[hidden crystal]

Kinetic Barrage is indeed awesome.

It does perhaps mean your ult has too many things that are expected of it, but rapid fire brain bursts have saved quite a few situations with a heap of elites/specials.

[silent coral]

so how exactly does unstable power work? at near max peril it gives 4-5% power? Dosnt seem like much vs say slaughter or executor?

or am i not understandin the blessing?

[spice veldt]

the description is just wrong

[broken quail]

its 3-5% per stack, it caps at like 20% at max peril. Not quite useless

[hidden crystal]

It's enough to make you hit certain break points. (Apparently, I admit I don't really use it).

[spice veldt]

you get a stack at 20/40/60/80% thresholds

the 2/3/4/5% that you see in the description is what you get per stack

on the illisi, the breakpoint I know of is one-shotting groaners with the minimum cleave damage with t4 unstable, t4 slaught, warp unleashed, and 4 warp charges

and I like having an initial damage boost

whether that +20% power is enough for you to give up deflector and whatnot is left up to you

[broken quail]

I gave one look at the breakpoint calculator and went

[spice veldt]

yeah i think it only goes up to 1 stack in the calc

i usually just use Executor in its place in the calc

[ornate hamlet]

Kinetic barrage is just so much better than the other two options

[broken quail]

But quicken lets you spam so many voicelines, it's like I'm playing crit zealot all over again

[ornate hamlet]

Each time I try AB I come out disappointed, and each time I try quicken I stop using it before I even get into a match because of how ass is the idea of having that many ults at the cost of the elite killing power of KB

[harsh urchin]

Unstable will be much more popular once slaughterer is nerfed

Right now it's not competitive number wise

[frozen osprey]

@lunar hollow

[lunar hollow]

@frozen osprey@frozen osprey@frozen osprey@frozen osprey

[frozen osprey]

am i annoying yet

[lunar hollow]

nope

[frozen osprey]

Damnit

[outer stump]

yea or nah?

[cyan portal]

https://youtu.be/1kWzx2EbmOc convinced?

[raven gate]

so much no

besides, save ur melk bucks till u hit 30 or u see tier 4 blessings

[outer stump]

are the modifiers almost good?

or is there up to 100%

[raven gate]

the base rating can go up to 380, that one is 285
each modifier can only go up to 80%

[outer stump]

so if i find a 80% all around try and reroll that?

put my whole life savings in it

[raven gate]

a) all stats cannot all hit 80
b) not necessarily. the perks and blessigns need to hav eone good one each

take a look at this gun. Its 380 but the dmg doesnt hit 80. in other words, u cannot get a perfect weapon, u will need to sacrifice some points in some stats

[undone oriole]

which of these would go best with purgatus flame staff brothers

[raven gate]

deimos 100%

[undone oriole]

it is my new baby :)

[raven gate]

just remember to spam light -> heavy

[undone oriole]

yea the heavy blows ass with deimos ime

even with hitting big guy with charged hit i just use L1

[spice veldt]

the 2nd heavy is a stab deals 2.5x damage compared to the usual sweeping heavies

[undone oriole]

o fr

didnt know that

[spice veldt]

yeah it's just like the l1 in that it has a damage boost in exchange for lower cleave

though the special-h1 and special-h2 both deal the same damage

you'll see people remark that you won't need to use the special as much on the deimos (compared to the obscurus), and that's because of the 2nd heavy

[undone oriole]

ah interesting interesting

i just like it for its funny to dash in with a charge and l1 a mauler or something and dash out again

[spice veldt]

yeah it's very nice having it as the first attack

unlike the obscurus where it's tucked away as the 3rd light (and behind that god awful 2nd light)

[fresh steeple]

No? That wasn't the condition. You had three teammates helping you clear it and also fighting the adds

I'm readily aware that Psykers can dodge-tank them

I do so myself

[flat shadow]

Do you guys know if I should turn down texture quality to low and hope dlss makes up the difference?

[fresh steeple]

the discussion some time ago was whether only the Psyker could completely solo one while their teammates stood to the side and also didn't help with adds

but you did do well with the tank, I'll say that. Very clean. Now back to D4.

[undone oriole]

yea the obscurus is the funny middle ground between horde clear and critical target focusing

illsi i like if im running ball staff or like revolver or something

[flat shadow]

I was playing with this in the firing range and it is possible to hit a critical if you look up very far as the second light starts

[spice veldt]

it has the deep misfortune of having that weird uppercut despite being a finesse weapon with low base damage and one of the higher weakspot/crit weapons

yeah it's one of the things that you can do

that's what I used to do against the plogryn when spamming with obscurus lights

[flat shadow]

But in a big fight you'd forget

[spice veldt]

yeah

not something that I'd ever want to willingly do

[cyan portal]

My memory of the conversation was around whether you needed to block at all while tanking dh, perhaps we were just talking at cross purposes.

[spice veldt]

I'm fine with looking left or right to exploit when the attack hitboxes start, but looking up and down is a bit more cumbersome

[flat shadow]

Obscurus has the cooler special out of the 3 swords though

[spice veldt]

obscurus and deimos share the same special

but you do have more of a reason to use it on the obscurus

and I like the model and attack combos more than the deimos (besides its 2nd light)

[flat shadow]

Pretty sure the Obscurus has one longer I think and more damage but the Deimos just flat out does more damage as a sword anyway

I tried to mess with Deimos in the psykhanium I think it does like 600 damage on a special

And then the Obscurus does like what 1.5k

I need to check again

[cyan portal]

special dmg depends on whether you light or heavy attack

[spice veldt]

you probably did it on different enemies

flak enemies take 200% damage from the deimos/obscurus special (all other armour types take 100%)

[flat shadow]

Why would you use special on those dudes though

It does like quadruple their health

[spice veldt]

scab ragers and scab maulers

[flat shadow]

Pretty funny though

maulers are flak?

Wrf

[spice veldt]

their bodies are flak

their heads are carapace

[flat shadow]

I thought they were unyielding

[spice veldt]

unyielding enemies are the monstrosities (plogryn, beast of nurgle, daemonhost), reaper (skin), and bulwarks

[flat shadow]

Idk the way enemy resistances work are not very clear

[spice veldt]

the chaos spawn should also be unyielding, but I haven't personally checked

[flat shadow]

All the characters call chaos spawn fleshbag

I wonder if it's just a quick term or if nobody knows to call it chaos spawn

Because everyone knows what a beast of nurgle is and say the whole thing

[spice veldt]

dealing emotional damage to it

[flat shadow]

Do you guys know much about dlss

Trying to find ways to make my game run at more than 40 fps

I want to set textures to low and have dlss make up the difference

[spice veldt]

dlss pretty much lowers your internal game resolution and upscales it iirc; so if the textures are low, it's still going to look a bit low

I personally have all settings set to low and DLSS on ultra performance since I'm running darktide on an ultrathin laptop

man if only the chaos spawn didn't exist

i wanted to take off +3 stam for another toughness curio and go without kinetic deflection, but it's fucking me up because I only have 3 bars to block his ass

[lunar hollow]

another chaos spawn W

[spice veldt]

oh nvm it seems that all of his attacks except his grab are i-frameable

[lunar hollow]

yea

[spice veldt]

I guess I just need to dodge at the right timings

[lunar hollow]

they dont want u to know that

[spice veldt]

damn I have to start using my brain

[lunar hollow]

i dodged an entire combo while cornered

it was pretty funny

just kinda phasing out of reality for half a second

[spice veldt]

yeah I just got pushed around by his slams

I knew that some of his attacks were i-frameable but I didn't realize that all of them were

[lunar hollow]

i got trolled by him

he slammed me off a ledge

[spice veldt]

smh

[lunar hollow]

everyone else was down or also ledged

[spice veldt]

smh smh

[lunar hollow]

and i had a brauto/psword

couldn't solo him

[spice veldt]

i'm waiting for crab to drop a no-damage psword solo against the spawn

[lunar hollow]

i dont know if crab has ever owned a psword

[spice veldt]

das true

[lunar hollow]

too normie for him

[spice veldt]

he might use it against the chaos spawn which punishes the psword's lacking mobility a bit more

well not that it matters if you can i-frame through everything

[lunar hollow]

psword has based mobility

smh

it is way less punishing than uh

some other weapons ive used

[spice veldt]

-20% dodge distance

[lunar hollow]

only -12% for me

mine's highest stat is fucking 80 mobility

[spice veldt]

lemayo

[lunar hollow]

the dump stats are damage/cleave damage

which doesnt matter at all cuz of how the stat scaling is on it

[ornate hamlet]

Who Needs Dodge Anyways

[spice veldt]

my psyker legs make me superior to everyone else

[ornate hamlet]

Magic Makes Me Better Than My Teammates

[placid sorrel]

why dodge when you canEXPLODE

[ornate hamlet]

Why EXPLODE When You Can Transcend Reality And Make This Game Good

[placid sorrel]

why make this game good when you... wait a minute

[ornate hamlet]

Game Was Never Good

[autumn smelt]

was doing that hi5 hunting grounds hab dreyko

and mission was going well, just finished first investigate section

then the game decided that i should eat a whole entire ass

and sent

1. a horde
2. a plague ogryn
3. a dog pack

all within the span of 2 seconds

[karmic delta]

Sounds fun

[autumn smelt]

i take pride in the fact that i was the last alive

[placid sorrel]

big boy takin da dogs for a walk

[cosmic sigil]

damn i got it way faster and earlier than on my zealot

[placid sorrel]

been seeing psykers with autopistol lately, whats the juice?

[cosmic sigil]

autopistol with pinning fire is kinda broken

[placid sorrel]

ah yeah

[cosmic sigil]

moreso with blaze away

especially on vet

on psyker you can proce kinetic flayer kinda easily

[placid sorrel]

every tiny itty bitty stagger still counts for the blessing

i tested it last time

[cosmic sigil]

and ascending blaze is putting the stacks way up

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, but rmb on the pistol staggers almost immediatly

i used max and low collateral... and i tend to prefer to have it not too high it helps me get the target in crosshair, but that just may be in my head tbh

i just consacrated that

do i go further?

[harsh urchin]

yeah hit it

[cosmic sigil]

i read warp flurry is good but i don't know

ok

time to another run then

do i keep infested for hordes or do i reroll it to unarmoured or flak?

[harsh urchin]

um

i would keep infested probs

maybe infested crit or infested flak

[autumn smelt]

warp flurry is really REALLY good

youll start to feel its effects as you get more than 2 stacks

a large portion of you warp buildup comes from charging up the flamer attack

so the less time you actually spend charging up your attack, the longer you spend actually attacking before hitting 100

[hoary leaf]

question, do blessings you pull off a staff count for all staffs or just the same type of staff?

[autumn smelt]

they are all different

[hoary leaf]

craaaaaaaap

just wasted Melk Dockets then

[spice veldt]

yeah all of our current staffs belong to different families (Voidstrike, Trauma, Surge, Purgatus)

[autumn smelt]

luckily force swords all share the same blessings

[spice veldt]

and no family has more than one variant as of right now

[hoary leaf]

man I thought I just got Warp Flurry IV for all my magic space sticks

[autumn smelt]

@cosmic sigil this is the staff i currently use, so it has the exact same tier as yours, t3 warp flurry

this is what its like when you fully charge it for each cast, you can see the stacks being added to the buffs

and they dont even have to be fully charged either, if you have the time to toss out a few low charged attacks, you can be at 5 stacks for the majority of your peril percentage, as shown here

[hoary leaf]

what does Warp Nexus give again?
Power?

[autumn smelt]

crit chance

[hoary leaf]

ah

[autumn smelt]

which is very good on the purg staff, as a crit applies 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of 1 iirc

[acoustic osprey]

was warp nexus description always cut off?

[hoary leaf]

I dont think it was but I really dont remember

[acoustic osprey]

same here

my psyker ended up finding a decent shredder, so i prefer it over a staff

[spice veldt]

the description was cut off during for some time and then it was fixed

and then they borked again recently somehow

[ember sentinel]

melk offering me a force sword with bloodthirsty

i think i have to buy it even if the blessing doesnt allow me to do a whole lot that i know of

other than the meme illisi build

[hoary leaf]

im still waiting for them to fix all the bad Book spots, theres 2 I run into regularly where you cant pick the book up

[acoustic osprey]

i found 1 in the map we got on patch day

[hoary leaf]

the 2 I know of is on the one Assassination mission in the Train Station, theres a spot right before the end on a pile of rubble that doesnt give you a pick up command and theres another one I cant remember exactly where but its that map

[worthy moon]

time to ruin it

[raven gate]

next: + stamina

• sprint speed

[bitter galleon]

What's the channel to beg strangers to carry you through the "solo a monster" penance?

[ember sentinel]

what do you guys run for the blazing spirit meme illisi build? Ik it probably doesnt really matter but i figured id try it since i got bloodthirsty

[hoary leaf]

shouldnt be too too hard but I think you need a premade party for that now

is that one of the "Private game only" Penance's?

[bitter galleon]

Ye

But I only have 1 friend, and I doubt his capabilities

[hoary leaf]

I need that one too

but I want the new "Kill 25 Incap enemies before they incap you" one the most

I like the cosmetic it gives

only need 6 more
But for now I sleep
Shall crush those insects with my infathomable mind tomorrow

[old oyster]

how its end??

[spice veldt]

hmm, you can solo the chaos spawn with just 3 stamina and no block eff or kinetic deflection, but it's really fucking hard to do

you only need to block the first attack of his 4-hit and 3-hit combos, and the next three attacks can be dodged once you get some distance away from him; and his 1-hit or 2-hit combos usually push you away and allow you to i-frame them; but he sometimes just rushes into your body and you might need take more than one hit when he's that close

[harsh urchin]

ya it's way harder to tank

than in vt

[spice veldt]

i spent like an hour and a half trying to no-hit him

i think the best I could do is beat him while taking three hits

and that's in the open arena of the psykanium

why does he have to get so uncomfortably close

and he has a different set of combos if you dodge to the sides

and one of his 1-hit and 4-hit combos share the same right-arm overhead

the safe way to beat him is to always hold a block before he begins a combo

at least my reaction speed isn't fast enough to distinguish between his 1/2/3/4-hit combos

[harsh urchin]

im sure they nerf him

after reddit complains

[spice veldt]

that'd be a shame

more sane people would prob take a stamina curio or kinetic deflection though

or not attempt to 1v1 a chaos spawn with the illisi

basically can't do anything except light-spam with the illisi because charging your special except during certain combos or timings will just get you hit

[harsh urchin]

ye i think you probably dont have enough time to charge

i saw someone solo it with deimos in meat grinder

[spice veldt]

it was blood drunk who did that I think

I was practicing 1v1ing the chaos spawn cuz I got greedy and wanted to take 3 toughness curios and kinetic shield into a mission without getting punished hard for having only 3 bars of stamina

[worthy moon]

Maybe a chance :i

[odd hound]

Okay, which one of you level +279 psykers is this queueing for damnation? Stop.

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/IdCqrln.png

is there something i should replace run and gun with

[spice veldt]

warp nexus perhaps

[cosmic sigil]

E-tesla should have been a surge psyker

[cosmic sigil]

You need to wear jorts and have some crab DNA @viral solstice

[spice veldt]

i do not have jorts :(

[lunar hollow]

thigh highs will suffice

[spice veldt]

maybe fishnets

[lunar hollow]

yea

[worthy moon]

is it worth carrying on with the left one?

or bin itg

[wanton terrace]

Bin it IMO but I am no expert. Looks so similar

On force sword what does finesse and mobility do? Which is mor eimportant?

[harsh urchin]

both are important

you can dumpstat warp res

[spice veldt]

yeah, on all force swords, I'd generally be safe with treating warp res as the dump stat

unless you want to go for a special spam build with the illisi

i would at least want 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first target on all of my force swords

though in the illisi's case, the first target stat doesn't scale the damage dealt to the 1st target hit by its special (presumably a bug)

[cosmic sigil]

good enough?

[spice veldt]

warp nexus isn't too impressive on the voidstrike, as crits are only +30% damage

[cosmic sigil]

it's purgatus

[spice veldt]

fuck

[cosmic sigil]

i liked the skin of the void better

[wanton terrace]

Thanks @harsh urchin and @spice veldt

[spice veldt]

it's a bit too silver-ey for me

or well I don't hate silver, I guess it's the texture I don't like?

[cosmic sigil]

just for you

warp nexus is power i presume

[spice veldt]

based

nah it's crit chance

[cosmic sigil]

oh?

[spice veldt]

yeah unstable power (force swords) is the power based on peril% one

[cosmic sigil]

well it's better than terryfing barrage

[spice veldt]

yep

[cosmic sigil]

too bad that unstable power is not on staves..

[spice veldt]

if only

then bolts would be able to cleave two poxwalkers

[cosmic sigil]

so wait, should i reroll flak to crit chance then?

[harsh urchin]

it's probably fine

[worthy moon]

why can we not just change 2 perks if we dont change a blessing :<

[cosmic sigil]

[cosmic sigil]

i didn;t check the list of blessing, the choice is kinda limited lmao

[harsh urchin]

this one is actually fine lol

specials -> crit or flak and you're done

[worthy moon]

change pox / groan to flak?

[harsh urchin]

pox/groan is good

[worthy moon]

ok

no flak ?

[safe crystal]

Nah, get rid of the trash mob perk. They die fast enough as is with purg, it literally does almost nothing. Unyielding/flak/crit chance are far better than it

[cosmic sigil]

@lunar hollow found another of your signature weapon in the wild

I'd upgrade it. It can lead to good results 🙃

[spice veldt]

i can fix him

[worthy moon]

is wildfire any good?

[cosmic sigil]

with ascendant blaze and purgatus no?

[spice veldt]

wildfire has some unlisted and bugged behavior that makes it not very good

and purg is already extremely good at spreading soulblaze

[cosmic sigil]

so you take 6 warp charges right?

[spice veldt]

probably yeah

[dense vault]

has 79% burn so worth using

but it is purgatus so nobody likes you 😛

[empty obsidian]

does anyone know the real diffrence between the obscurus and deimos force sword? deimos just seems way better all around

[dense vault]

that´s because it is better than obscurus

which needs some love badly

[spice veldt]

deimos is straight up better

they both have the same special

[dense vault]

also known as mutie-b-gone

[spice veldt]

however, deimos has the light stab as its 1st light and has a 2nd heavy stab that deals 2.5x more damage than the usual sweeping heavies

also has a better light combo

[empty obsidian]

yea, its single target damage seems pretty strong

[spice veldt]

whereas obscurus has the weird ass 2nd light that's an uppercut despite being a finesse weapon with low bodyshot damage

maybe if the obscurus' 2nd light was a horizontal/diagonal instead, though the deimos' 2nd heavy would make it still more worth it

[empty obsidian]

def seems like they need some proper way to distinguish between them, they just seem to be way too similar

[spice veldt]

did a chaos spawn no-hit with no +stam, kinetic deflection, or block efficiency with the Illisi; although I did have 1 stam regen perk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4eujyB82M
tldr is to hold block before he starts a combo because his 3/4-hit combos can catch you in your dodge if you're too close, and he tends to rush at you to close the distance. The rest of the combo can usually be dodged. Dodge-slide backwards against his tentacle grab.
Ideally, you'll only need to block at most one attack per 3/4-hit combo, and he won't do enough 3/4-hit combos to drain all of your stamina if you keep it up.
This was done in the Psykanium where I had infinite space to kite, so it is a very idealistic scenario.

[worthy moon]

what to change?

I went for 5% ranged crit? Tewll me if that is wrong. Someone said to do it 😄

[sick grail]

Id get rid of the groaner perk

[cosmic sigil]

i kep infested and i went for flak

[nova dirge]

i need to kill myself

for the emperor

[cosmic sigil]

i just got the penance by accident lmao

[nova dirge]

imagine

bad psyker

[raven gate]

no such thing. there are only less good psykers

viva la psyker supremacy

[ornate hamlet]

Rise against the blunts siblings

The only thing you have to lose are your chains

[idle aurora]

Inner Tranquility is good? Or resistance it offers is too low even with 6 charges?

[raven gate]

i dont have the game open and I dont remember all the talents. ur guna need to be more specific

[spice veldt]

it was pretty common to pick it before Warp Unleashed and quelling got buffed

inner tranq is primarily useful for making the most out of Warp Flurry on your staff nowadays

e.g., warp flurry trauma spam build

[raven gate]

oh yeah trauma staff is so good with inner tranq

and 6 charges

[ember hornet]

now do it with Rashad vet

[spice veldt]

no

it would require thinking

[normal sequoia]

Been running this Purgatus someone recommended me to stick with yesterday, and it's so far been performing rather well

I somehow even managed to get through a High Int Gauntlet with Power Outage, with it. With a second psyker in the team and no flashlights

[ember hornet]

pretty ideal other than crit damage perk

[normal sequoia]

yeah

what would be the ideal perk instead of that?

flak? maniac?

[ember hornet]

I'm guessing flak but not 100% sure I don't use purg

[idle aurora]

Hm, so a purg build would now usually go 2-3-1-2-2-2 ?

[spice veldt]

wrack & ruin is a bit redundant except as a long-range soulblaze option; it's useful as an infinite cleave option if you're running Surge or Voidstrike but Purg is pretty good on that

wildfire has some bugged, unlisted, and detrimental behavior that makes it not as good as it sounds #psyker-class message

running Warp Unleashed and Warp Battery over them seems to be the common choice

[idle aurora]

warp unleashed works for all damage sources right? So the soulblaze, the base attack itself etc.

[spice veldt]

you got it

i wonder if I can get a sub 1-minute kill on the chaos spawn with the illisi

[ember hornet]

simply maintain max slaughterer stacks for a minute while fighting it

[spice veldt]

if I fight without caring about taking damage, I do roughly his hp in 30-ish seconds

too bad i die

it seems that if you're practically inside him, you can maybe reliably dodge the first hit of his combos

too bad he has his tentacle grab

[ember hornet]

crab can tell you the best pattern I think

something about back left dodges

and you can dodge certain combos in specific directions or something

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1c8dau_79WQkgT/d1337Ybthkxv?invite=cr-MSxZSkUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[spice veldt]

damn seems like he can tell whether that left right arm overhead is going to be the 1-hit or the multi-hit

[lethal folio]

when he does the right arm slam stay close, keep dodging right and he will often repeat it.

dodge right the grab too, and he will go into right slam.

[cosmic sigil]

hmm i wish they made the purgatus staff like the flamer...

it reminds me too much of charging a helbore

[ornate hamlet]

octopus monster defeated by man jumping sideways too much

[cosmic sigil]

poor monster defeated by octopus jumping sideways too much

fixed

[spice veldt]

alright sub 1-minute is basically impossible unless I hit every melee headshot and have nearly 100% uptime attacking him

[worthy moon]

What perks to run on demios?

[spice veldt]

+maniac (mutants/dreg ragers) and +flak (scab maulers/ragers)

[feral verge]

maniac is the most important one

[vestal raven]

^

[ember hornet]

git gud bro

[feral verge]

He will never git good

He suffers from early onset late stage skill issue--which is incurable and untreatable.

[olive ember]

the unpredictable AI

[spice veldt]

uwu meeeeeeoooowww

[spice veldt]

you suffer from lowdiamantus

[cosmic sigil]

i dodge a lot with my force swords, would riposte be interesting on the deimos?

[feral verge]

No

Barely procs

[cosmic sigil]

damn, 20% seemed nice

[feral verge]

Bad blessing p much

[vestal raven]

all deimos wants is slaughterer the rest is history blessing wise

just like every other melee that can roll it

[merry onyx]

looking for people to help me with my final psyker penance

[ornate hamlet]

Willing to help, probably easiest to get it on a daemonhost

[merry onyx]

yessss thank you only two more!!

[spice veldt]

i can help; here's my steam code 141358899

[merry onyx]

I'm on the stupid game pass is cross play available yet

[spice veldt]

f

ye

that's the one saving grace of the blessing system

[ornate hamlet]

Oh rip I wont be able to help then

Mb

[merry onyx]

They planned on making crossplay work though right

[ornate hamlet]

Supposedly, one of these days

[merry onyx]

If not, let me at least transfer characters from microsoft to steam
No way in hell I'm going to level my Psyker and Vet to 30 again

[spice veldt]

yeah lemayo

too bad even curios aren't shared

[merry onyx]

The dodges are chefs kiss

[spice veldt]

ikr

being able to run through open spaces by just dodging is nice

and completely turning my brain off against hordes

[merry onyx]

And the staffs are so nice against hordes too

[viral solstice]

thats why u go backwards like wat im doin

otherwise u miss da headshot

goin close right is basically what u have to do in a real game wheever ur near a wall

to rotate him

[spice veldt]

yeah headshots are way easier when i'm at a distance

[viral solstice]

the core loop u goet without going right

is the overhead slam -> right arm single slam -> overhead slam one

the thing to watch out for there

is that if u see him do it 4-5 times

ur boutta get a grab usually

idk if its intentional

but backdodging that on autopilot will get u die

in psykhanium the fast sweeping right hand one is the one that is extremely shady to block

or rather

dodge

the 4 hit slam

can be read

but tanking hit 1 is ok

[spice veldt]

yeah everytime I try to roll the dice I just fail

[viral solstice]

it costs v lil stam

[feral verge]

thanks for your research crab

[viral solstice]

on psyker

u have so much stam regen

[spice veldt]

ikr

[viral solstice]

u literally can free block hit 1 of everything he does

so just don't care lol

[spice veldt]

force sword blocks having a short hold timer as well

[viral solstice]

block and dodge back right on every move transition and u gucci

if he has baited u and does a grab

then just slide out of the dodge

and it misses 00%

100%

4 hit slam can be read dodged with 2 dodges

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1bVfs1eNFcv5IL/d1337Frs8IjF?invite=cr-MSxJclUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[idle aurora]

I guess that blast is pretty good against ants

[shy prairie]

the single target trauma staff

[karmic delta]

The only Crowd Control you're gonna do is

[lethal cave]

Hey
solid warp resist though 🙏

[ornate hamlet]

BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT

the 0% blast radius trauma when the psyker fires it

[sick grail]

have they changed the animation of the surge staff secondary?

[cosmic sigil]

i have slaught 4 on my deimos and illisi so i'm covered, i wanted to try something else than uncanny or executor

[feral verge]

unstable power

[spice veldt]

it no longer has that pulsating flicker if that's what you're referring to

[raven gate]

oops, accidently created a singularity

[spice veldt]

162 toughness babyyyyyyyyy https://streamable.com/kwcqps

my external drive just ate shit and now my recordings are gone

very sad

[ornate hamlet]

smells like toughness DR

thou wouldst not be happening to not useth kinetic deflection, art thou?

[strong thicket]

How many enemies does the surge stun exactly btw?

[feral verge]

7 i believe

[spice veldt]

thy scent is well placed

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-yskysn-ltg-thunder-thunder-gif-23523876

[spice veldt]

:(

[celest hedge]

I'm finding it hard to play anything that isn't psyker just for how much millage i'm getting out of the purge staff, especially on the new missions

[karmic delta]

YOU SHOULD

love yourself NOW

[tropic vigil]

damage is dump stat for surge staff right?

[ember sentinel]

damage is still nice for killing armored targets and whatnot but you dont need a 80% roll on it or anything

[meager cedar]

Loner Psyker with Surge staff be like

[tropic vigil]

just spent 300k at burt for surge staff and got something semi mediocre and hadron kind of bricks it unlucky.

barrage and run and gun

[feral verge]

dont go crazy spending your life savings on a surge staff

there's zero need to make a perfect one

remember that it's just a stun stick tool

not even a real weapon

[spice veldt]

ur not real

[feral verge]

arcotash demonhost confirmed???

demonhost: "ur not real, ur not real, ur not real"

[meager cedar]

Just replace run and gun

[karmic delta]

Youre not even using the Surge staff 90% of the time. that goes to your melee weapon

[meager cedar]

Barrage could be good one day

I believe

[feral verge]

this

best way to use surge staff is to barely use is

for elite/special groups only

and sometimes for shooters

i use melee 90% of the time

[ornate hamlet]

How to use surge staff:

[karmic delta]

💀

[elder nacelle]

I am a ogryn and i have a question for you spark heads, what does stick do?

[ornate hamlet]

on its own

nothing

but with MIND

many things

[magic burrow]

Its like a gun, but the gun is a stick instead

[ornate hamlet]

and the trigger is MIND

[elder nacelle]

woooa

Can rations come out of stick?

[native moat]

I want to thank you psyker players for always highlighting elites/specials with your blue-thingy-skill so we veterans can shoot them

[spice veldt]

i try my best

[meager cedar]

But we're trying to save you bullets

You may need them for when the psyker gets possessed

[elder nacelle]

Spark ead just need rations

Go less sparky

[meager cedar]

I kinda wish they did more with the whole perils thing, maybe used more stuff from the tabletop rpg

We already have the "everything gets really cold" UI effects from daemonhosts, psykers should be able to cause that

Of course they'd never do "you accidentally summon a bloodletter" but I choose to dream

[ornate hamlet]

If you point the stick at someone, they never need to eat again

[karmic delta]

I pray everyday you'll never find ammo

and Power Sword is removed

[native moat]

This ones for my shovel

[karmic delta]

*presses F

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE MADE ME ANGRY

[native moat]

SEVER THE HEAD,THE BODY DIES

[karmic delta]

MAD/PAINED LAUGHTER

[spice veldt]

turns out that you can still make the jump to the metal roofing on vigil oblivium albeit from a different spot

https://streamable.com/60yoks

[frozen osprey]

YOOOO this is so useful

[spice veldt]

you have to make the jump from the railing which is kinda hard to do

though you can do what I did in the video and do heavy swing->dodge->jump

dodging during your swing and then jumping will make you jump at a faster speed

whereas doing a dodge->jump just makes you move at 4 meters/s at most

[lilac tapir]

does this allow to backtrack?

[spice veldt]

ye

[lilac tapir]

aah cool

[spice veldt]

hopefully you can do it under pressure

[frozen osprey]

Does any melee heavy swing work?

[spice veldt]

it should yeah

i tested it with duellies and it worked

lemme see

[frozen osprey]

Nice

[lilac tapir]

btw after the patch and Diablo 4 release it seems harder to find games where people don't die... had to resort to running random Sedition games to get my last contract for the week after playing 5-6 Damnation games ... usually I was able to do this while running random weekly Damnation stuff...

Tried heresy first but that ones is even worse as there are random people attempting penances without telling anyone in the group, that usually results in their death... (or death of a group lol)

[spice veldt]

ye it works on other melee weapons; seems to work on lights though they are slightly slower at ~4.7 meters instead of the 5+ meters/s that I usually get with heavies

[frozen osprey]

I c i c ty

[harsh urchin]

this one is a rough one lmao

i found it easier to finish it pugging 5s

than playing 4s or playing with my friends

[hidden crystal]

I want to thank you for assuming my aim is good enough that you think I'm always highlighting elites or specials.

(No, I want the fragging sniper at the back, not a random poxwalker...)

[spice veldt]

me jumping to target the sniper and then getting sniped midair

[lilac tapir]

seems the new level (Ascension Raiser) is the issue, I had a lot of good runs where people rush at the end and die to surprise 5 Ogryns and 4 Ragers in one of the last rooms before dropship

[spice veldt]

damn an elite patrol can spawn there?

[harsh urchin]

ya people try to rush too much lol

[lilac tapir]

yea and people are caught completely unprepared lol

btw what would you reroll the Specialist Damage perk to on this one? Just randomly upgraded a grey and Hadron was in a good mood today

[harsh urchin]

i would do flak

make it even better at what it's good at

[lilac tapir]

thanks, Flak it is, wasn't sure if getting 5% crit is better or not

[kind jay]

on demand damage is way better

[shadow onyx]

its exactly how i imagine and play ilisi

with bloodthristy and slaughterer

special heavy > light

so smooth

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[echo turtle]

There must be an uptick in players buying the game, since the event I have moticed the quality of player in damnation drop

[final mesa]

is there a workaround for the 6/7 mission penance? Can't seem to get a Repair mission.

[olive ember]

Probably returning players who don't play the game for months on end

grinding the same missions over and over again

[hollow steeple]

need warp flurry 4
plz melk

[graceful eagle]

good luck with Melk, last time i saw a staff was like month ago

[broken carbon]

ive got a good voidstrike in my store

but i cant afford it so i gotta grab books

but im having shit luck finding books

last 3 games only found 1 scrip out of 3

[echo turtle]

I’m one of those@lol but I’m back and practiced already at least

I am pretty much needing to carry every game rn

[olive ember]

the random experience

[echo turtle]

It’s usually not so bad

I am also seeing tons of sub lvl 30s

[idle aurora]

That's very good tbh, hopefully some toxic damnation speedrunning tryhards won't drive newbs away

Let them learn

One of the best things is seeing new players who understand wtf to do, but just get a bit overwhelmed by hordes

[old field]

i was wondering if slaughterer stack will count on a kill of a blazing spirit soulsblaze ?

for the force sword

[idle aurora]

or the opposite when i do melk $$ runs on lower diffs and see guys getting rekt on uprising

[spice veldt]

ye it does

[old field]

thx

[final mesa]

anyone with a repair mission on their mission list?

[spice veldt]

everybody has the same mission board

[final mesa]

so some penances are just not do-able at this point?

[spice veldt]

yup

[final mesa]

so lame.

[spice veldt]

you'll have to pray to rngesus for them to appear

[final mesa]

will just play other games I guess.

[hollow steeple]

o bby
time to get more plasteel to reroll this for +flak
and then I'll just swap unstable power to whichever blessing I want to fiddle with

[broken carbon]

it does

what should i reroll/rebless for

[ornate hamlet]

Me rerolling the surge to a purgatus:

[sterile vale]

Hmmmmmmm, I'm torn on which blessing to replace with Rending Shockwave

I only have Rending Shockwave tier 2 right now

[sinful olive]

Sustained fire reblessed to peril removal on weakspot hit, not sure of the breakpoints for voidstrike but stam replaced for whichever damage roll will let you hit them.

[spice veldt]

i'd replace warp nexus with rending

[hollow steeple]

crit doesn't seem to add much damage to trauma
my 75% damage roll goes from 375 on most targets to 431

[spice veldt]

with focused channeling, you won't get staggered out of a sprint by shooters, so you can play aggressively into them by sprint-sliding into them

i personally run a focused + rending trauma

crits are only a +15% damage bonus on trauma

[broken carbon]

thanks

[frank lake]

should i buy for the perk?

[sinful olive]

Personally I'd replace warp nexus with warp flurry, I currently run flurry/rending but do often wish I had focused simply for the safety.

[hollow steeple]

slaughterer 4 is super good
if you can afford it just to grab the blessing, I would

[frank lake]

cheers, i had 3 in use previously and liked it

[kind jay]

yes

immediately

[echo turtle]

most of the time they just constantly die

[idle aurora]

My experience is 50/50 it's either +- normal player, or a complete potato. But as always some people will catch on really fast, other slower, and some never

[white saddle]

Mine is 90/10 it’s a fkin potato that should’ve stick to uprising. Low level in 5 is a huge red flag ever since

I mean normal 5 is okay but if it’s hi shock 5 dear god

[obtuse moth]

honestly sub30s are the same except maybe with worse gear, i lump them in with sub +200s

a sub +50 is going to be nearly as bad as a sub30 in many cases

the real answer is peeking at their blessings and to some extent their perks and feats

running off meta weapon with no cleave or power bonuses theyre mostly just a bot that might survive better

[white saddle]

Miss me with that low level chainaxe zealot

[spice veldt]

huh you can go back up the dropdown on silo cluster along a path on the walkway

i never realized

[feral verge]

bad at game

[spice veldt]

begone

[kind jay]

arco true solo hi5stg when?

looks like it's time

[spice veldt]

silo cluster is one of the more solo-able maps yeah

[kind jay]

nah nah

smelter time

[spice veldt]

hmm

smelter has the harder midevent but easier finale, and silo cluster is the other way around

well silo cluster's midevent is only easy because you usually have enough team DPS to keep the ranged at bay

[burnt maple]

what does Warp Nexus increase?

[kind jay]

crit

[burnt maple]

it just says, "gain 5 to 20%"

[kind jay]

chance

[burnt maple]

i figured it'd be crit but why doesn't it say lol

[kind jay]

because

[spice veldt]

they somehow broke it this patch again

[burnt maple]

it used to say, right

[spice veldt]

it was broken like this before, then fixed, and then broken again now

yeah

[kind jay]

broke, fixed, renamed and broke, renamed again still broke

[thick carbon]

anyone have a good purg staff/soulblaze build? I tried making one and it made me feel so much weaker

[obtuse moth]

just run 311112 or 311113 depending on if you like setting the entire room on fire with a button or like using brain burst more

obv you can tweak for psykinetic's aura or peril resist etc

get a staff with high burn stat and cloud radius, run flurry on it on profit, you can run flak/unyielding/maniac/crit chance perks

[burnt maple]

you want burn stat at least at 76% for max burn stacks

[obtuse moth]

if you struggle with defense i'd recommend still using illisi, if you are comfortable deimos is nice for the single target stabs of death that dont cost peril

ideally, but honestly 14 stacks is enough even for hishock5

[cosmic sigil]

Hmm i just realized something interesting with my scoreboard. I hit a looooot more weakspot with my illisi psyker than my vet psword or my zealot hsword. Is this because I made her the tyniest possible and I happen to strike at the right height? My two other characters have max height. Or is this the weakspot/critic thingy of the force swords?

[feral verge]

yes

i main psyker, maining purga staff

damnation only

it carries games

[feral verge]

high peril

almost always at 80% peril or higher

with this build you will out damage everyone else in your average pub damnation game

the only builds that i found that can out damage it are tryhard bolter vets and tryhard shredder users

damage gets crazy when you have a deimos with slaughterer on it

because dot damage (Like fire damage from your staff/ ascendant blaze) benefits from blessings on your melee weapon

so you can set a horde on fire

swap to sword

boom your DOT (and ur sword obviously) gets a big damage boost, because slaughterer has been procc'd

save your staff for hordes and larger groups

melee should be used about 70% of the time

[thick carbon]

weird, that's almost the exact same as the one I made aside from the 4th column

[idle aurora]

Is your purga itself good? Burn % etc. Because it should nuke hordes and everything that's runs with them

[obtuse moth]

thats probably just the nature of the swings, horizontal vs diagonal

[thick carbon]

80% on everything except quell speed

[obtuse moth]

height doesnt really matter since either way you have to aim it

[thick carbon]

or at least.. close enough to count as 80%

[cosmic sigil]

i will look more at my mk3 psword vs mk6 then

[ornate hamlet]

Depending on the weapon's damage, and cleave targets, it's also very possible for a weapon with weaker damage to get a lot more weakspot hits by needing to hit more often

Not that the illisi is weaker than those by any means

[obtuse moth]

ye but the scoreboard counts by %

[cosmic sigil]

i tend not really target them in horde, i mean i do it probably subsconsciously at that point

[ornate hamlet]

What percentage?

[obtuse moth]

if you're more used to playing on your psyker than other classes, that could also be a factor

[ornate hamlet]

I thought it just counted up each time you hit a weakspot

[obtuse moth]

weakspot hits and crit rate

[ornate hamlet]

But it goes above 100%

[obtuse moth]

mine definitely doesn

[ornate hamlet]

I regularly get over 400 weakspot hits and I even had matches with over 1000 crits

[obtuse moth]

we're prolly looking at two different parts

you're looking at the top one, im looking at the bottom one

[obtuse moth]

tbh i thought i turned the top one off a while ago

[cosmic sigil]

well.. i have rougly 300h on my vet, the same on my zealot and i just started psyker last week so...

[ornate hamlet]

I didn't even know you could toggle a bottom one tbh

[obtuse moth]

ah, height could still be a factor if thats how you like to aim your camera

[ornate hamlet]

sus mod

[cosmic sigil]

yeah I hit 400 a lot more

[obtuse moth]

hmm? theres a lot more stats you can enable

i have a few scoreboard modules though

[cosmic sigil]

yeah i checked, i do roughly double the score on wp/critical hits dealt

[obtuse moth]

that might just be more hits then

although thats interesting since vet should have a similar amount of crits since it has double the crit chance

[cosmic sigil]

well yeah but i used the mk6 a lot so diagonal slashes

[obtuse moth]

shouldnt affect crit rate

[cosmic sigil]

hmm

[untold meteor]

alright, I've done everything on Hi5 shock on all classes besides gun psyker

what's the build so I can have people hate me

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on how cringe you want to be

[untold meteor]

one for premade with friends

one for cringe pugging

[ornate hamlet]

My gamer tactics are 111111113 or something idfk how many 1s there are

Because I don't use the illisi on one of the gun psyker builds

The force sword one just starts with quietitude instead

[feral verge]

from a game i just played

narrowly outdamaged by a tryhard vet

regular damnation game

[smoky wigeon]

Hmmm does quelling peril mean that percentage thingy is going down?

[cosmic sigil]

111233 for mine

[feral verge]

yes

[cosmic sigil]

i like kinetic flayer

but i could do without

[smoky wigeon]

Thanks. Is there a way to make my psykers a little more tanky?

[feral verge]

when you hit R to lower that "percentage thingy"

[smoky wigeon]

Wait you hit R to lower the percentage thingy?

[idle aurora]

hp/toughness curios

[smoky wigeon]

Okay thanks

[feral verge]

yes oyu can hold down the R button to quell peril

with a staff, or force sword out

or your 'brain burst hands'

cant be done with regular melee or ranged weapons

force swords have an infinite dodge

so at all times pretty much you should be dodging

it's pretty easy to take under 300 dmg on avg, in every game

in damnation

if you play like that

[idle aurora]

my man just dropped entire tutorial on the guy

[feral verge]

[idle aurora]

I really hope to see sycorax with with specials gauntlet or light out + high int soon. Played regular high int damnation, and it already made the map better

Maybe it feels easier because everything is kinda funneled in, more linear parts

Riser 31 feels more difficult on regular then sycorax

[smoky wigeon]

@feral verge why can I dodge infinite?

Also I'm level 5 soooo. But I've been mostly playing ogryn and this is a big adjustment for me lol. 60 hours of ogryn.

[thick carbon]

agreed. riser 31 is pretty difficult. only character I managed to get through without going down on heresy/damnation was my zealot.

I like the challenge of it though

[cosmic sigil]

the passage with the train can really break the team if you are pinned down by shooters

[ember hornet]

Idk if I got an easy AI director but

I played riser once and it was severely lacking enemies

[cosmic sigil]

otherwise it's ok and the ending is easy

[ember hornet]

like I had 6 special and 8 disabler kills.... which was the highest

[cosmic sigil]

i had the opposite on one section of the map, the one where you go out of the lift and had to go way below

shit ton of elites and shooters

like the entire map there

[ember hornet]

I'll have to try it again, maybe just easy roll

[cosmic sigil]

i think i prefer archivum

[ember hornet]

for sure

also the end spawned a mauler pack right

3 maulers?

just 3?

[cosmic sigil]

but that's probably because everybody was playing riser yesterday and i did 10 time at least

[cosmic sigil]

that's 3 bonks there

you should have a bonk meter Lazorr, in the scoreboard

[ember hornet]

I should try and make a plugin for it

[sick isle]

gun psyker time?

[cosmic sigil]

fuck yeah

[harsh urchin]

may need to test that collateral is a bit low

see if it is staggering

[cosmic sigil]

that's not a problem tbh

i use 70ish and 40ish ap... and rmb staggers immediatly

[harsh urchin]

against trash sure, but if it's taking 1 extra hit to stagger a rager that would be unacceptable

[cosmic sigil]

#psyker-class message

without pinning

i do prefer having the target not on the floor because i don't have to reajust my aim

[sick isle]

I mean, with the gun with the state its in right now, it should be fine

[cosmic sigil]

oh yeah

[harsh urchin]

ok that test is completely pointless cuz he's blasting it lol

i would like to see one where he taps it

and the PF stacks

[cosmic sigil]

that's a shredder not a bolter lol

[sick isle]

Does gun psyker use different feats.

[cosmic sigil]

i could try later

[harsh urchin]

correct but on high 5s I usually have to tap my shredder

otherwise the entire team runs out of ammo

[cosmic sigil]

hmm never happened to me tbh

[harsh urchin]

you must be very lucky then lol

[ember hornet]

[cosmic sigil]

but yeah, i know what you mean

[harsh urchin]

i literally had to adjust my playstyle

to beat hi 5 shock

[cosmic sigil]

[harsh urchin]

because i was using too much ammo

[cosmic sigil]

never did hishock with a shredder, only bolter

but hi int is fine as long as there's a mg12, a psyker or just a vet in the team...

by tapping you do short burst?

[harsh urchin]

sometimes

sometimes if it's just shooters i just semi-auto it a few times

because stacked PF is insane

[cosmic sigil]

im gonna try in the psy

[harsh urchin]

usually I full auto real threats like flamers and stuff

or a huge pack of shooters that hasn't spread out yet

but yeah against random shooters and mid-range specials like bombers i just tap it

ye i think the main thing I wanna see is if you have any trouble getting PF stacks against gunners and stuff with low collat

maybe, maybe not; but I dumpstatted mobility just in case

[merry onyx]

Can all the staffs use the same perks/blessings? Or does Purgatus need something different say.. Voidstrike?

[harsh urchin]

some of the blessings can be used across weapons; but generally yes each weapon has its own set of ideal

[thick carbon]

hey @feral verge, what do you use for curios when it comes to blessings?

[cosmic sigil]

vs

[harsh urchin]

damn so laki

how many did you roll to get those rolls

[kind jay]

staves do not share blessings

[old field]

this one is better

[cosmic sigil]

not a lot, i already hade blaze and pf4 before

but yeah i got blaze naturally on the fourth shredder i upgraded

meanwhile my zealot has neither pf4 with blaze away or cavalcade

so, high or lo collat makes no diff to stack pf in short burst

[harsh urchin]

how about tapping

and on different enemy types

dreg stalker, etc

[cosmic sigil]

i did 3 bullets bursts

that enough?

[harsh urchin]

i think it may be inaccurate no

since you'll pretty much instantly stack it up

whereas we're trying to see if there's a breakpoint you might be missing due to not having enough collat on single shots

ie: taking 6 hits to stack to it to max instead of 5

[untold meteor]

my nerd gun

[cosmic sigil]

it is quite hard to fire a single bullet with the shredder

[untold meteor]

sadly not as good my vet's

[cosmic sigil]

and sadly something i never do ig

[harsh urchin]

3 round burst is fine i guess

are you getting 3 stacks each time

even against ragers/gunners

[merry onyx]

then what perks/blessings would be fit for purgatus and trauma?

[harsh urchin]

idk about trauma, but purg generally uses flurry nexus with unyielding, crit, flak

[cosmic sigil]

each burst gets me around 1 stack of pf

and everything dies pretty much with 3 stacks

it's interesting btw because blaze away proce on the mutie and the reaper welll before pinning fire if i hit center mass

i never really checked before

[harsh urchin]

ye i think we need some more refined testing heh

it may make a difference

it may not

[cosmic sigil]

so blaze is fine but you could really use cavalcade or raking fire

[cosmic sigil]

well sorry about that, no scientific methodology for plasma testing here

but to sum it up in my case collateral is not a concern

i prefer having good roll elsewhere, good perks and the blessings

[merry onyx]

i see thank you!

[cosmic sigil]

and if i ever want to try hard i have this on my vet

[merry onyx]

i heard that the surge staff is supposed to be the best staff but i dont quite understand why its better than purgatus? one burns the other electrifies?

[broken carbon]

there is no real best staff

i personally love the trauma force staff

but the surge staff's niche is its really high stagger

its one of the few things that can stagger a mutant

and its got high damage against armored enemies

[cosmic sigil]

surge staff in high hunting grounds is quite comfortable

[broken carbon]

so its best for locking down specialists

[merry onyx]

yeah I'm really liking that one too but I don't know good blessings/perks for it Do you have some ideas?

[broken carbon]

ive got warp flurry and warp nexus on it

and it works perfect for me

[feral verge]

2x hp, 1x stamina