psyker-class

[olive ember]

Eh I would at lvl 25, cuz flayer is good enough of a buff and you are getting CDR

its also team CDR

[floral relic]

Also why is Kinetic Barrage good?

Also what's CDR?

[ember hornet]

I think in 2 games running KB yesterday I only BBed during it like 3 times lol

[olive ember]

Cooldown Reduction

[floral relic]

Ah I see

[olive ember]

Depends on how much you BB tbh

but if you BB alot, KB is a no brainer, it also helps when you need to quickly kill a bunch of specials that are far away, think like idk snipers and bombers etc.

The main thing is that KB doesn't expend your warp charges tho

both Quicken and AB get rid of your warp charges, KB doesn't

[floral relic]

I see

How many BB can you pop after KB?

Like 3?

[olive ember]

Uh I think 4 or 5?

[floral relic]

Hun nice

[spice veldt]

5 brainbursts back-to-back

[cyan notch]

5 or 6 if u time it

[spice veldt]

assuming that you start from 0% peril

[floral relic]

Nice

[olive ember]

6 requires quelling tho

[spice veldt]

5 max

[floral relic]

Also I feel like I don't actually know how to use the abiliy, Wrath

Like, I've been mostly using it as a reload button

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/kmxgqm

[cyan notch]

u can do 6 if u start with one before casting

[floral relic]

Wrath is also like a, super push?

[ember hornet]

F is very useful as a stagger everything button too

[cyan notch]

how do u have this random ass clip ready to paste

[olive ember]

thats one way you can use it

[spice veldt]

oh cuz u said it was 6 brainbursts before so I made that clip to argue against you

[olive ember]

basically you can use it as a quick stagger to everything in front of you

yo ucan use it to get rid of peril

its pretty versatile

[floral relic]

I see

[cyan notch]

[floral relic]

I think I don't use it liberally enough

Should pop it more on CD

[olive ember]

I do that and yeah it works

[ember hornet]

with illisi I am constantly using F

[spice veldt]

it's fine to save it if you want to play more defensively

since it can save you from pouncing dogs and stagger trappers

[olive ember]

^^ tho most of the psykers here just kinda walk into hordes

so yeah

[ember hornet]

lol

[idle aurora]

and stop bombers (sometimes)

bursters*

[spice veldt]

i've had extremely sus interactions between the ult and bursters, so I avoid using my ult on bursters

[olive ember]

oh yeah one thing is that the stagger is strong enough to knock dogs off and the psykers ability goes through walls

[graceful eagle]

30m push thats go through walls, handy to save teammates pinned by dog behind cover etc

[olive ember]

so you can literally just press F through a wall to save your teammates

[cyan notch]

usually a zealot getting dogged

[ember hornet]

new hi5 dogs is kind of brutal

[olive ember]

I havent' tried the new hound modifier

what they like

[idle aurora]

Poor ogryns, they should be able to eat the hounds raw, but instead get pinned by little puppers

[ember hornet]

they added more dogs, fewer waves, and big dogs in the waves

[graceful eagle]

new hunting grounds is so much better

[cyan notch]

i prefer fewer waves over the 18 in a row every 2 steps you take

[ember hornet]

I agree

[safe crystal]

@spice veldt If you had to choose between UA or flak on trauma, which one would you take?

[ember hornet]

but I got some super shit RNG in a couple hi5 dogs games

[lethal folio]

Unarmoured for dreg bruisers.

[cyan notch]

pretty sure the triggers are all at specific places

[spice veldt]

I prefer to do as little chaos with trauma, so I prefer +unarmoured for the guaranteed one-shot on dreg bruisers

depends on how high your damage stat is, whether you run warp unleashed and/or warp battery, and how well you are on top of keeping your warp charges up

[ember hornet]

https://streamable.com/onj4lp

that was the area that spawned some of the most bullshit I've seen in a while

right after we dropped down and got towards the end of the tunnel

[safe crystal]

Guess it turned out alright for now, just gotta find a higher base stat one next

Maybe next month

[cyan notch]

i would never get trapped like that personally (skilled gamer)

[ember hornet]

bonbon, dogs, horde, specials, and elites all spawned/agrod at the same time

[ember hornet]

josho things

[ornate hamlet]

Would you believe that back when I didn't know you could push bursters, I used the zealot ult on them because I thought it was some kind of stagger breakpoint?

So I would always shoulder charge the poor sod

[cyan notch]

dogs with anything that takes too much of your time is pretty much a wipe

[raven gate]

dammit i want warp flurry 4
ive spent so much ordo dockets trying to get it

[cyan notch]

cuz there are 158 of them

[olive ember]

This is what happens when I'm not there telling him what to do

Confirmed

I am god gamer

[ember hornet]

yeah there's so many damn dogs that spawn

[spice veldt]

hiyaaaaaaaah

i'd believe it

[ember hornet]

and in the chaos there's just random big dogs

[spice veldt]

i'd probably do that if I started out with zealot

[cyan notch]

u can dodge all of em flawlessly but it takes so long for everything to finish that if theres a boss ur dead

[olive ember]

I know back when I played heresy there was a guy who didn't know you could shove bursters so he was like "how tf did you not take any damage"

[ember hornet]

I still use F for staggering dogs sometimes on zealot

[olive ember]

and yeah had to teach him midgame how to shove em

[ember hornet]

mostly if I'm out of position or need to keep attacking

[spice veldt]

positioning is a myth

[ember hornet]

by position I mean

I put myself in a scenario where I might get pounced

cause attack timing

and other enemies

[spice veldt]

true

i just pray that I can hear and react to the dog in time with my ult

only god can save me once I'm in that situation and a hound spawns

[ember hornet]

immediately pounces you though 7 bulwarks

I do kind of wish dogs had a cleave limit

[spice veldt]

yeah it is a bit of bullshit that they can leap through 1 million zombies

at least mutants have the courtesy to knock them down

[ember hornet]

yeah

[spice veldt]

at least three out of the four classes have the ability to protect themselves in that situation (assuming their ults are up)

[ember hornet]

it feels like the audio issues happen more on some maps

than others

[spice veldt]

yeah like that initial area in smelter complex where you go into the indoors area and go down that stairs

I've gotten jebaited by a burster there one time

thought it was farther away than it actually was

[ember hornet]

yes

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1bgWVp9TpshzWz/d1337oHWchMz?invite=cr-MSxlUE4sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

this area?

[floral relic]

I see, I definitely needs to use it more than I use now, which is just as a panic button at 100% Peril

[spice veldt]

o that's ammo raid but yeah I think it has the same audio issues right outside that doorway

always stairs and doorways

[ember hornet]

ah right

but yeah that area

I've seen silent bursters multiple times

[spice veldt]

at least bursters have a relatively consistent arming timing

unlike dogs whose sound and their pounce timings can vary massively

[ember hornet]

like in that clip

where the fuck did 4 bursters come from

[spice veldt]

u only have the privilege to hear them after they're 2m away from you

be grateful ok?

[cyan notch]

they spawn like at the top of the stairs

pretty stupid

[spice veldt]

oh yeah and shitty as spawns

[cyan notch]

oh out of los i guess i can spawn em here hehe xd

[spice veldt]

I got fucking jebaited by a dog who spawned at the top of a stair and immediately pounced on my ass

one of the most infuriating experiences I've had in this game

[ember hornet]

there's a door on new map by uh, one of the checkpoint doors

dogs just immediately jump out of the door

without warning

[spice veldt]

the one that leads into the finale?

with the door to the right>

[ember hornet]

I think so

yeah

[floral relic]

Random question, when you earn blessing by destroying a piece, do you get that blessing for all equipment?

[spice veldt]

yeah I had bursters spawn there; good thing I use the trauma staff lemayo

[idle aurora]

The best interaction i saw was dog being launched up like 20 meters and on landing insta pin the guy who launched it

[spice veldt]

blessings earned from a particular weapon can only be used on a weapon within the same weapon family

[ember hornet]

blessings are per weapon family

[spice veldt]

the latter parts of a weapon's name indicates their family

[floral relic]

I see, are all force swords same family?

[spice veldt]

so Voidstrike, Trauma, Surge, and Purgatus belong to different families

[floral relic]

I assume all force swords are one and all staffs are another?

[spice veldt]

yeah they all belong to the Blaze Force Sword family

[floral relic]

Wait wut

[floral relic]

Ouch

[spice veldt]

yeah that was my reaction as well

[floral relic]

lmao

[spice veldt]

since none of our staff families have more than 1 mark in their family

hot bullshit

[floral relic]

I think I'm gonna stop collecting blessings for axes now

Don't think I'll ever become a Warrior Psyker lmao

[ember hornet]

it would be more acceptable if like... the staffs had cool unique blessings

but uh

[spice veldt]

noh

you only get blazing spirit (on staffs with 0% base crit)

and surge (which only works on the voidstrike)

rending shockwave is neat I will say that

[ember hornet]

I definitely want a blessing that works 1/10th of the time max

[floral relic]

Also is Quicken a fine feat?

[spice veldt]

i'll let you take the stage

[ember hornet]

ha

I like quicken for melee focused build

[floral relic]

Like if I Kinetic Flayer + Psychic Communion, is Quicken viable?

[floral relic]

Psychic Communion + Warp Battery Quicken?

[ember hornet]

I run communion + quicken

yep

[floral relic]

I see

[ember hornet]

that's what I run for illisi spam build

[floral relic]

It should mean I can spam more Wrath

At the cost of KB's BB 5 strike

Also is BB good against bosses?

[ember hornet]

yeah, if that's what you want to do it's kind of fun

BB is most reliable method for psyker to damage bosses outside of like, getting burn stacks going

[floral relic]

Like I notice BB is very good against fat armored Ogryns

I see

[spice veldt]

BB is pretty decent against the Plague Ogryn and Beast of Nurgle now that they buffed its damage against those enemies

[floral relic]

Nice

Also what should I do once a Demon Host is triggered?

[spice veldt]

it's not as great against the Daemonhost or Chaos Spawn, but those are pretty fast enemies so you'll probably be using BB against them anyways

[floral relic]

Should I attempt to fight it?

[ember hornet]

you should try AB too, use it with a melee that has power buffs

[floral relic]

AB hun, how do I use that?

AB into a big group of enemy?

[ember hornet]

yeah, light whole room on fire

you want max warp stacks and power buffs to kill all the things

[floral relic]

I see, for AB, would PC + KF be better, or PC + WB?

Also what does Soulblaze do anyway?

Just a stack of DoT?

[spice veldt]

yeah just damage over time

nothing fancy

[ember hornet]

back to you lol

[spice veldt]

besides synergizing with Psyker's feats

[floral relic]

I see

[ember hornet]

no no

[spice veldt]

i dunno about AB cuz I don't use it

[ember hornet]

soulblaze blazes souls

very different

[spice veldt]

das true

420 blaze souls

compared to BORING burn

[ember hornet]

I guess I could check the pins and see if AB breakpoints are in there

[spice veldt]

whether you use communion with AB probably depends on whether you're using the purgatus or not

though you might probably take communion anyways

[ember hornet]

oh yeah, there's a good pinned guide to check out I think

I'm pretty sure without purg and with power buffs on weapon you can clear a room of trash with AB

[ornate hamlet]

I'm gonna bring a recon

[spice veldt]

terrorist

[raven gate]

purge him!

[ember hornet]

No buts.

[floral relic]

Hun don't Warp Battery help with AB more?

Or is 4 stacks usually enough?

[spice veldt]

oops

i forgot about warp battery

I don't know how well you generate warp charges with ascendant blaze alone

[floral relic]

Pain

[spice veldt]

since AB does have that passive 10% chance for warp charge on the death of a soulblaze-afflicted enemy

note that it doesn't matter what kills them as long as they were afflicted with soulblaze from anyone (whether that soulblaze came from you or another psyker)

[ember hornet]

#psyker-class message

see this guide

pretty comprehensive

[floral relic]

Cool, thanks!

Also what version of the game are we at now?

[spice veldt]

oh lmao a hotfix just dropped

1.1.2

[floral relic]

I see cool

[spice veldt]

Fixed so that sprinting into slide does not break charging on ‘Brainburst’ and all Psyker staffs.

[ember hornet]

they fixed psyker charge sprint

[spice veldt]

HELL YEAH

WE ARE EATING TONIGHT

thrust fixed :(

now you guys will have to hit bosses 1 more time

I can sleep comfortably knowing that sprinting while charging is an intended mechanic

hmm well the wording is a bit ambiguous saying that it's "sprinting into sliding"

time to hop on and test it

[ornate hamlet]

petition to make infernus into soulblaze on psyker

force recon

[spice veldt]

SPRINTING WHILE CHARGING IS INDEED BACK ON THE MENU

[spice veldt]

that would be nice

[merry onyx]

looking for two more people help us clear our last redacted penance for psyker
i hate this penance

[acoustic holly]

Finally broke my curse of 9 lose streak on psyker

[floral relic]

Wait, Kinetic Shield reduces all damage taken?

[spice veldt]

ye

whenever you see "ranged toughness damage reduction", it's actually just all toughness damage reduction

[floral relic]

Weird

fuck

weird as fuck

[spice veldt]

e.g., this applies to veteran's 75% toughness damage reduction on ult feat as well

[floral relic]

lmao

My cousin who got me into this game is playing his second character

His first character is Vertan

And his second character is still Vertan

[spice veldt]

hmm

i wonder what his first class is

[ember hornet]

also whenever you see "elites" in feats

it means elites and specials

[floral relic]

And whenever we are playing together he is always bragging about doing double my DPS

[ember hornet]

vet is busted as fuck

that's just how it be

[floral relic]

And I'm getting salty about it ;w;

[spice veldt]

so the type of person that you want to dab on

[floral relic]

💀

[ember hornet]

literally there is basically nothing you can do to touch the DPS of a good vet

[spice veldt]

i find that you can do decent damage by being extremely aggressive regardless of your build

though that also requires a lot of hours to know how to do safely

[floral relic]

Yeah

And I do noticed, I'm on like, day 2 or 3 of playing Darktide

So trying to race for more Damage numbers on the scoreboard usually means feeding a lot for me

[spice veldt]

that's true

especially when you're not geared up

[ember hornet]

you will get to the point where you stop feeding

[floral relic]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

psyker will feel a bit better once you're lvl 30 and whatnot

equipment does make a difference

[zealous lily]

wait how r u seein dps

[floral relic]

There is also this moment that I realize I really want to use guns

[floral relic]

mod

[cyan notch]

wow the game is playable now

i can finally play it before d4 starts in 11 hours

[floral relic]

So I'm like, Gun Psyker trying to race DPS against a Vet...

[spice veldt]

a fully leveled vet presumably

[floral relic]

Nah, it's his second character so it's only lv 15

[spice veldt]

oh damn

i predicted wrong

[zealous lily]

oh wow there's lots of darktide mods, there a channel or somethin for reccomended mods?

[lethal cave]

There's a modding discord, but really it's all up to preference really

[ember hornet]

nexusmods has them all, and shows popularity

[kind jay]

reroll until rarity

done

[zealous lily]

that sounds damn useful lol

[ember hornet]

several good hud mods too

creature spawner

[zealous lily]

need to roll block efficiency on my deimos

[floral relic]

Also is there a big difference between LMB and RMB BB?

[spice veldt]

my UI is the coolest of them all

[ember hornet]

RMB you use when you know something is coming

like a preemptive BB

[spice veldt]

RMB basically allows you to pre-charge it without having to lock onto an enemy; it is 1 second slower than LMB

[zealous lily]

does using RMB produce more peril

[spice veldt]

yep

[zealous lily]

can never tell

[safe crystal]

Yes

[zealous lily]

nice

[floral relic]

I see, I always hold RMB then hold LMB to lock on

[spice veldt]

you generate 10% peril per second, and since it takes 1 second longer, you generate 10% more peril with it

[floral relic]

what happens if I hold LMB then hold RMB?

[zealous lily]

yeah, i wonder how it goes if u switch halfway

.5 sec extra peril's worth?

[spice veldt]

LMB into RMB doesn't do anything as long as you keep holding LMB

[floral relic]

My main worry is if I use only LMB, the target gets killed and I lose all charge

[zealous lily]

nah i mean Right into Left

[spice veldt]

if you let go of LMB, you just restart your BB

[spice veldt]

terrible ugly doo big fat peepee poopoo

[ember hornet]

don't worry health doesn't display all the time

[spice veldt]

i personally like a bit more space below my crosshair

but I also use a weapon that requires me to look at the sky

[ember hornet]

lol

I just want to see toughness and dodge count

when I am brain off hammering

[zealous lily]

got a stupid 333 hours in this game and only now am i getting mods lol

[spice veldt]

RMB into an LMB basically makes your BB lock on as if you had LMBed initially, but you'll charge at the same rate as your RMB

[floral relic]

Pain

[zealous lily]

that blows

[ember hornet]

I also enjoy how I'm looking at 20 crushers as that was from proving a point about flamer "nerf"

[zealous lily]

ig that means i can hold the right click longer just in case i need to switch targets

no benefit to getting to left click earlier

[floral relic]

Also I have a weird bug with my mods
When I obtain a new item, it's covered in green and I can barely see the stats

[spice veldt]

devastating nerf it was

[spice veldt]

yeah p much

[floral relic]

I wonder what Mod could cause this

[spice veldt]

only if the target is going to break sightline like a trapper running away or something

[ember hornet]

it's not mods pretty sure

[zealous lily]

yeh

[ember hornet]

game inventory is doing some weird stuff atm

[floral relic]

Wait what?
Is that a bug everyone have?

[spice veldt]

yeah it was a bug with the game itself that was just fixed a few minutes ago by the hotfix

[floral relic]

Oh cool lmao

[zealous lily]

is this a bad time to grab mods lol, ik the game just updated

[ember hornet]

nah

[zealous lily]

not tryna brick my shit

[spice veldt]

small hotfixes like this don't break anything usually

[ember hornet]

mods hardly need to be updated when game updates

[floral relic]

Official game have more bugs than mods lmao

[spice veldt]

mods are also a-ok by fatshark themselves

[zealous lily]

they better be ok w/ it, mofos uipdate this game every blue moon

[spice veldt]

with some caveats and obvious guidelines; the policy is pretty lenient so far

[floral relic]

Yeah, also mods are more simple than I thought, I mean I look at the code, and it feels like most mods are just simply like 20 lines of code

[ember hornet]

just make sure you retoggle mods every time a patch happens

[floral relic]

I should strart learning how to make mods

[ember hornet]

I was able to add a key for the for the emperor button

lol

[spice veldt]

here's their modding policy if you care for the details https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-modding-policy/75407

stuff like healthbars in multiplayer missions have been fine so far

easy anti-cheat has also been disabled for a while, so that opens up some flexibility with what mods can do

[zealous lily]

i remember someone using a book area detector

that honestly sounds chill

[spice veldt]

yeah it basically posts a message to your chat if you're near it

[ember hornet]

yeah it tells you if you are in a certain range of books

[spice veldt]

very nice especially when I have music on

[lethal cave]

It also, at least IIRC, generates more peril on-fire too than lmb

[spice veldt]

ye 10% more peril

[ember hornet]

you can also do things like increase the distance of drop icons

[spice veldt]

so 55% (30% + 25%) compared to 45% (20% + 25%)

[lethal cave]

Also yes, the book finder mod is very useful

[ornate hamlet]

Is "bypassing progression" not what the reroll mods do?

[floral relic]

Wait so this mod don't actually give you all blessings for free?https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/138

[ornate hamlet]

No?

[lethal cave]

No it shows you what the blessings for that weapon that can be in those slots are

[spice veldt]

nah just reveals their images instead of having it be a question mark

[lethal cave]

So, if you haven't given Hadron a blessing you don't know at all what blessings are in that tier

This just changes that

Now you can know what blessings Hadron has in a weapon's T4, for example
You just don't have it

[spice veldt]

rerolling is free and the current system is just an artifact of the old system they had planned, so it's presumably a-ok by them

[ornate hamlet]

I mean in the sense that sometimes the player is mean to sit there and reroll something a thousand times manually

[spice veldt]

it was planned to be increasing costs

[safe crystal]

Oh boy, can you imagine it actually being increasing cost

[spice veldt]

it's presumably low on their priority list to rework the system to make it just simply choose the perk based on a fixed cost and whatnot

[spice veldt]

would be actual proper absolute pain

[cosmic sigil]

I have this weird issue where the warp charges icon resets its position everytime i change it if finish the run or die during it.

[spice veldt]

yeah it's a current bug with crosshairHUD

[safe crystal]

'For the low, low price of 1000 plasteel, you can reroll this T2 sprint efficiency into a T3 sprint efficiency' would've actually made me uninstall and check back some time in 2024

[spice veldt]

i actually just moved that warp charge indicator below my healthbar just for that screenshot haha

[zealous lily]

hmm, the healthbar mod might be a bit cheezy lol

[spice veldt]

i set the scale in user_settings.config to be lower than 1 so its size doesn't bug me as much

yeah it gives a pretty decent advantage

I personally don't use it, mostly to avoid protracted arguments about the validity of its usage

except for psykanium and all that

[zealous lily]

it's on that borderline of comfy and infringing on intended difficulty to me

[cosmic sigil]

Can't you do it directly in the mod?

[spice veldt]

the good ending

[spice veldt]

in the mod settings UI, the minimum scale that the slider lets you to set is 1

[zealous lily]

but ig i dont really care

[spice veldt]

so you have to go into the config file to set it below 1

just a UI limitation rather than some actual numerical limitation in the implementation

[cosmic sigil]

Ohhh I didn't touch that. I thought it was the biggest possible number.

[cosmic sigil]

Well, it's not a pvp game and there's no official ranking so who cares...

[hard breach]

Why does the vet have to be so damn good? Playing others feel really mixed compared. Ogryn i play when i want some comic relief

hehe, box go BONK

[fresh steeple]

you can do that with standard UI now? Or are you using a mod?

[spice veldt]

CustomHUD allows you to move UI elements around with your mouse

its pretty neat

[fresh steeple]

nice. Gonna look into that

[floral relic]

I see, I should go grab it then,
I thought it’s a mod that screws with the “intended progression” so I skipped it

[spice veldt]

stuff that's posted on the modding discord is more likely to be a-ok as there are fatshark employees sitting there (and the whole modding framework was developed in conjunction with a fatshark dev) https://discord.gg/GFyCGNpJb8

so far, I haven't seen anything "bad" on nexusmods

you can double check there and whatnot

[floral relic]

Yeah heathbar do feel like an actual advantage over vanilla,
Not a super big one but it do felt different

[spice veldt]

yeah I do find some enjoyment in keeping track of enemy hp

I am a little saddened at the knowledge that I could get more kills if I knew the hp of enemies to do the optimal thing, but it's a tradeoff that I am willing to give up

[prisma condor]

[nova dirge]

this is messed up

12 mins left :(

[ember hornet]

you can still buy it pretty sure

[ornate hamlet]

I realized 4 charges gets me this 🤏 close to one-shotting a flak rager

Flamers too

Time to abandon the brain burst feat again

[nova dirge]

damn, didnt know

[nova dirge]

the max warp charges for 300 seconds one?

[fresh steeple]

rip on the blessings

[nova dirge]

wait no, thjats a penance

[ornate hamlet]

[lilac tapir]

RIP

[ember hornet]

I'm honestly impressed they hotfixed psyker

in the same week

[ornate hamlet]

?

[steel flame]

man that new tatoo looks super cool right

wish i could actually tell which one it even is in the barber shop

[pine relic]

What's psyker's new tattoo?

I redeem the code but I can't tell which one is the new one

[ember hornet]

it seems like it's not working cause everyone keeps saying that

[lunar hollow]

the emperor face tattoo has been DENIED to us

or me at least

[pine relic]

Chaos spawn: You shall not play the game.

[shut matrix]

I mean, they put the skulls helms in without... y'know the skulls, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tats don't work

[pine relic]

First mutant now this

[ember hornet]

imagine getting chaos spawns

1 in 18 games

[shut matrix]

Haven't seen one yet 😦

[lunar hollow]

ive gotten it like 9 times now

[ember hornet]

I wasnt even playing my main when I saw it

[pine relic]

the stupid thing threw me off the map

[ember hornet]

killed it by literally just back dodging/sliding and shooting grenade gauntlet

[safe crystal]

I've had a spawn in every game i've played today

5/5

[mint palm]

Sould I spend melkies?

[blissful kestrel]

What are you currently running and how much melk bucks are you sitting on?

[mint palm]

And 2300 ish melks

Can get about another 1400 currency

[blissful kestrel]

If you buy that trauma staff you won't be able to afford anything else nice that shows up until Monday, so I personally wouldn't. However, if Hadron bricks your current trauma, it could definitely be a good weapon to run for a while.

[mint palm]

Of my characters, I think it goes Skullbreaker>Veteran>Zealot=Psykinetic in terms of playing. So it wouldn't hurt if something else rolls in the meantime.

[river crypt]

What does the Warp Nexus blessing do?

[blissful kestrel]

crit

[olive ember]

crit chance base on peril thresholds

100k more clears

[cyan notch]

good job guys!

-me when i havent played a single mission

[olive ember]

Don't worry they fixed the sprint bug

you can play again

kekw

[cyan notch]

nah

diablo 4 is out in 8 hours

aint nobody got time for nocontenttide

[mint palm]

Honestly I was thinking of just cannibalizing the melk staff for the Blazing Spirit blessing.

[olive ember]

blizzard game player spotted

[harsh urchin]

diablo4 is gonna be bad though lol

[olive ember]

@ember hornet look some other guy is playing diablo 4

I actually heard pretty good things about d4 just

[harsh urchin]

the game is already solved and there's 0 endgame

[olive ember]

its made by blizzard

[cyan notch]

oh ok i guess ill refund it then ty

[rigid needle]

Finally got the first part of my meme sword - Blaze iv on illisi

Now to hunt down bloodthirsty iv

[ember hornet]

how do we know there is no endgame

[harsh urchin]

i mean of course the campaign and leveling is going to be good

because they literally said

that they'll add endgame with future battlepasses and seasons lol

[cyan notch]

so just like darktide then

perfect

[harsh urchin]

ye but worse

cuz it's blizzard

[cyan notch]

oh ok that makes sense

[harsh urchin]

so expect heroes of the storm / overwatch2 / starcraft levels of treatment

[cyan notch]

yeah ill refund it now ty

[harsh urchin]

to your beloved game

i would recommend refunding and waiting 1-2 months

if it's good just buy it and play it

if not then skip

[cyan notch]

dude i cant imagine i was gonna play it before you warned me of this thats crazy

[harsh urchin]

i dont think any games are worth preordering anymore

in this day and age

better to wait a bit, you get to see how shit it is

and you also get to save a bit of money on sale if it happens

[cyan notch]

its not really a preorder if it comes out today

[harsh urchin]

fair, day 1 purchases i guess

[cyan notch]

so day 1 purchases are not worth it huh

[sudden jasper]

Which force sword is the go to?

[harsh urchin]

yes, IMO no preorders/day 1 game purchases are ever worth

[harsh urchin]

people like illsi and deimos

[cyan notch]

damn thats crazy but i dont think so

i will buy it and enjoy it

[harsh urchin]

well you do you then i hope you can enjoy it

[sudden jasper]

Thank you

[harsh urchin]

from what i see the campaign should be pretty fun

so after 10-15 hours of campaign you basically run out of content afaik

the endgame paragon system also looks very un-interesting, it looks like just dmg% boost and stuff

[mint palm]

I was drugged twice within the first 5 minutes of the D4 campaign

[cyan notch]

i dont believe anything you say

[harsh urchin]

well the best thing is that you dont need to lol

[cyan notch]

exactly

[harsh urchin]

i still hold firm that preorders and day1 game buys are a mistake

[mint palm]

I preordered Age of Wonders 4, and Darktide

[cyan notch]

up to you dawg

[kind jay]

meanwhile, i bought 2 ultimate editions

[cyan notch]

i personally hold firm that people named dis have no idea what theyre saying and are a mistake

[harsh urchin]

lmao alright then

keep preordering

[harsh urchin]

yep and in this case

preordering dt was a mistake, and age of wonders was actually good

i dont think darktide was in an acceptable state on release.

[mint palm]

Honestly even then, the money spent on the preorder for the time invested has been worth it for both. Though I still hope that things for Darktide get better within a year or two.

It was not.

[cyan notch]

eh

doesnt really matter

[mint palm]

I'd argue it still isn't, but at the same time I've dumped 500 hours into it.

[cyan notch]

its just like 60 bucks

[harsh urchin]

it's not really about the money

it's about the product you're buying being in an acceptable state

basically i'm going to predict what is going to happen in d4

it's going to be a huge grindfest to get perfect gear

people are going to grind for like 1-2 months

and then quit because there's no challenging endgame content to do with that gear

i think the itemization actually looks decent, and the story/campaign looks pretty fun

[cyan notch]

dont play a game if dont like it pretty ez

no need to write an essay about why u think random game bad out of the blue

[harsh urchin]

i dont think it's going to be bad lol

since you can't read, the tl;dr is that i think it'll be good

[west galleon]

Dont try to engage the zealots in simple discussions

They will be confused and angry by your opinion if its not game good or game bad

[harsh urchin]

ya seems like the brain levels are not developed enough lololol

[cyan notch]

[west galleon]

Proving my point

Ty

[copper raft]

based

[olive ember]

Blooddrunk can't read

sad day indeed

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/filian-fu-shemad-gif-25192160

[outer stump]

this any good? bit new so idk whats top tier

[west galleon]

Uh are you lvl 30 yet?

[outer stump]

just about 20

[west galleon]

I think thats okay for 20

[outer stump]

should i just save up? this is from that daily challenges vendor thing

[west galleon]

Yes

You can get way better perks blessings and stats

But its a grind obviously

[outer stump]

mkay, thank you for the help

[west galleon]

Im not really for min maxing but you can do alot better if you are patient now

[olive ember]

at lvl 30 you start getting higher base rating weapons

until 30 just use wte the hell you goet

maybe spend like 10k to get a weapon type if you rly want to try it out

[outer stump]

alright

[sudden jasper]

Whats optimal horde clearing combos on the Illisi? Heavy, light is what im thinking but I dont really know psyker well

[floral relic]

I dunno idea, I'm on like day 1 of Illisi

[outer stump]

whats illisi

[sudden jasper]

Force sword

[floral relic]

But for me it's like, charge, heavy into horde, then push and backup, then repeat

Like the lv 15 force sword

Big AOE damage

[sudden jasper]

Ty

[floral relic]

But yeah, I feel like charged heavy is important for clearing stuff

But it is like, much slower than normal heavy

Since charge

You can also Charge then push + after push into heavy

Which is Charge, then hold RMB, hold LMB until heavy is ready

But I couldn't find much use of it yet

Do note you can't dodge while Charging

So it seems impossible to dodge into the enemy while charging

Wait...

I think you can?

[sudden jasper]

Not sure I'll give it a shot, thanks for the advice

[frozen osprey]

wait what

yesterday we werent even halfway through the second challenge

now we're done?

[olive ember]

Illisi combo is basically charge heavy when you have time

and then when you don't have time just do Heavy 1 -> light 2 -> repeat

[placid sorrel]

anyone crashed when scrolling psyker penances?

[charred urchin]

Just started leveling psyker, played a lot of Vet and Zealot. What's feats are usually taken?

[tired estuary]

I think they lowered the 3rd challenge or smth

[west galleon]

I'd be surprised if they didnt, the original goals were pretty... ambitious

[wet belfry]

2-1-1-2-1-3

[charred urchin]

ty

[west galleon]

I personally prefer quietitude but thats bc i play voidstrike with transfer peril maxed

So i guess for leveling 2 is better?

[wet belfry]

I just gave one for max level psyker

I think 3 is best for leveling in the first tier

[acoustic osprey]

lol i just had same reaction and came here to see if anybody else did

[frozen osprey]

lmfao

welp guess it's time to desperately wait another 1 or 2 months

[echo turtle]

Passive quell rate was increased while holding non force weapons?

I was running a gun yesterday and I felt mike it quelled p fast

[sudden jasper]

What perk rolls would a Illisi Force sword want?

[echo turtle]

Maniac, flakk

[sudden jasper]

Ty

[echo turtle]

Or maniac elite if ur nasty

but flak is probably better

[mental rock]

lmao I just had a wipe because a poxburster knocked 3 people off the map and the last one was a camo vet who noticed too late and died xd

I wish I was recording it goddamn

[hard breach]

Yeah but the new map won't be out until tomorrow

[static mango]

Lol

[idle aurora]

Hopefully it will add another new banger ost

[tender terrace]

spoiler alert the numbers were bogus from the start and they had this planned the whole time

[frozen osprey]

i mean yeah but i dont see how that changes the surprise

[kind jay]

we were getting the map no matter what

[harsh urchin]

They alao have no idea how to do these kind of events properly lol

I think payday does these kind of community progress events well

Tldr you need to have more tiers and better feedback

Otherwise you're better off just releasing the content

Without all this bs

[tender terrace]

well at least they finished the event before D4 came out, curious to see how down bad friday is on steamstats

[harsh urchin]

Eh itll be back to normal in a month

Its a blizzard game

[tender terrace]

yes it is a blizzard game

[harsh urchin]

People will beat the story and then stop playing

Cuz iirc theres no endgame yet

[tender terrace]

you recall incorrectly

[harsh urchin]

Not for at least a while longer

Well its just the paragon board and itemization

There's no endgame content lol

[tender terrace]

i feel like everyone just says those words and has no idea even what they expect them to mean

[harsh urchin]

For me, its challenging content + good progression

You want to be able to get stronger and then have hard content that you need to get stronger for

There's no point maxing out a paragon board and getting godrolled items if theres nothing to do

Itd be as if the max difficulty in darktide was 4s instead of 5 high

Sure you can farm up proper weapons and curios, but what do you do with them

[tender terrace]

diablo has a t5

and then it has a system that scales t5 from 0 - 100

[harsh urchin]

Yeah its rift system

I wasnt a big fan of it in d3

[tender terrace]

ok so it has an endgame you just dont like it

[harsh urchin]

Simply scaling up monster dmg and monster hp works but doesnt work very well

Yeah i guess i see it the same way as crafting in darktide

[tender terrace]

so you want lost ark/ffxIV bosses then

[harsh urchin]

It exists but it's shit

Nah maybe something more akin to poe apex bosses

[tender terrace]

there really isn't any way to expand the endgame of either game other than scaling difficulty, throwing more mobs at you, or creating some variety of either of those two things

[harsh urchin]

If were talking about arpg genre

I dont agree

I think poe does it very well with monster modifiers and random league mechs in maps

I dont think theres only scaling difficult or more mobs as options

Monster modifiers allow combinations that generate very unique encounters

[tender terrace]

you haven't played POE in a long time i guess

map end game is literally monster quantity and difficulty scaling

[harsh urchin]

Only with map tier

[tender terrace]

nah

[harsh urchin]

Rare monster mods and stuff appearing like rituals, delirium

[tender terrace]

t16 maps are pretty much baseline in current meta

scaling up 16s with massive 8 affix unid corrupts, juicing them further with sextants and atlas tree, the entire goal is to massively expand pack size and quant

and with quant, comes affix difficulty

[harsh urchin]

Oh lol i think we play different games

[tender terrace]

that's probably a fair assessment

[harsh urchin]

I have only played ssf for the last few years

Trade got too boring

[tender terrace]

poe lives and dies based on trade for the most part

[harsh urchin]

I was making like 30ex by the end of the weekend and finishing with the game by end of the first week

[tender terrace]

4 weeks big playerbase, dead

[harsh urchin]

So i was able to extend my own playtime and enjoyment of the game through ssf

[tidal scaffold]

That kind of economy is so weird to me

[tender terrace]

well that's where d4 comes in and meets middle of the road

[tidal scaffold]

It's very traditional

[tender terrace]

d4 is a mixture of ssf and trade

a little heavier on the ssf

[tidal scaffold]

What's ssf

[tender terrace]

solo self found

[tidal scaffold]

Ty ty

[harsh urchin]

I mean I'll play it if its good

But I'll wait a month or two

I dont have super high confidence in bliz as a company to deliver

[tender terrace]

reality is, i think everyone is looking for their replacement for a wow-like game that they are able to sink 10,000 hours into and it's just never going to happen again

[harsh urchin]

Given the last few times

With immortal, ow2, reforged

But maybe they can make a miracle happen

[tender terrace]

other than cringers whining about the "p2w" system, i have not heard a single negative thing about d4 from content creators

[harsh urchin]

I mean why would you say something negative about it if your job is a content creator

I think same thing happened when new world came out

everyone was very positive; until 1 months after the launch, by then the cracks started to show

[tender terrace]

is that a real question?

content creators thrive off negative energy

[harsh urchin]

Lol. no.

[tender terrace]

its like the most profitable feedback loop in existence

[harsh urchin]

only specific content creators do

the drama based ones, like asmongold, etc

the actual people who try to create good content

[tender terrace]

ah right the successful ones, got it

[harsh urchin]

like ziz, razz, etc

[tender terrace]

all of which joined the "lol p2w" hype when it cycled

[harsh urchin]

correct

idk how about this

let's wrap up this conversation for now

and in 1-2 months i'll ping you

and we can continue

i had a similar conversation with some guy about ow2

i think our convo ended after they casually shut down the pve

[tender terrace]

you can hate it all you want but OW2 is a massive game

[harsh urchin]

yeah fortnite was also massive, so was justin bieber

massive = good

[tender terrace]

massive = massive profits

which is critical for a live service game to churn out more content and keep your aforementioned "endgame" alive and healthy

when the endgame never ends because content always comes out when the previous content is about to run dry, etc

[harsh urchin]

hey man

given the choice between something like vermintide and d immortal, the latter which makes around 2 mil a day which I would consider massive profits

maybe from the corporate side they prefer the latter since $$$; but i think most consumers prefer the former

[tender terrace]

for sure, the data supports that with vt/dt's like 5,000 player count vs d immortal or ow2 like millions playing every day

consumers definitely consuming the former lol

[harsh urchin]

as I said, I care more about whether a game is fun to play moreso than the popularity

maybe stuff that caters to the lowest common denominator is more profitable and reaches a wider audience, great.

that doesn't matter cuz i am not going to eat shit just because everybody does so

[twilit flicker]

Have you guys tried Genshin Impact?

[ornate hamlet]

Thankfully no

[twilit flicker]

Lmao

Ok, you do you, Darktide rocks!

[tender terrace]

i dont really have a good reason for not playing genshin tbh

looks cool just never gave it a shot

[harsh urchin]

i played a few gachas

not really a fan of the gacha system

so I havent tried genshin

some of them are quite good though

[tender terrace]

is it even really fair to call genshin a gacha game though

[harsh urchin]

neural cloud and arknights were great, but i stopped playing because I dislike gacha

[tender terrace]

its just a free to play zelda clone fundamentally

[harsh urchin]

idk, let's ask someone who actually plays the game

@twilit flicker how integrated into the game systems is the gacha

[tender terrace]

you can play the entire game and not spend a cent

[harsh urchin]

You can do that with every single gacha game in existence

So thats a moot point lol

[echo turtle]

Just checking in, slaughterer power bonus still augments the soulblaze DOT right?

[harsh urchin]

yes

[full bane]

Hey Spark’Eads, Ogryn is getting his associates on Monday, am I smart enough now?

[olive ember]

congrats

[full bane]

Thanks

[twilit flicker]

Judging more on how you sound than my actual game knowledge. You will not like it. Everyone has their preferences so no worries.

[placid sorrel]

kinda dig this

[normal sequoia]

drip

[frozen osprey]

drown

[hexed wedge]

I have something similar. Digging the prosthetic

[tropic vigil]

im a lil stupid but, "releaving" should be relieving no?

or is that british spelling?

[hexed wedge]

Can confirm that is not the British spelling

[tropic vigil]

not that the typo is critical to the game i just thought i was going crazy

[crystal jolt]

they're also a swedish company so yeah

[tropic vigil]

are they? i always thought fatshark was UK for some reason

[rain saddle]

dont use guns but i got this base from the emprah

[tropic vigil]

its gamesworkshop thats UK aint it

yea thats where i got that from

[ornate hamlet]

Check this out:

[echo turtle]

Whats the load out to get a deimos able to one hit a crusher?

[safe fulcrum]

Still really digging this look over nearly all the other cosmetics

[rain saddle]

why are my teams today playing at the speed of slow

[lilac tapir]

yesterday I played the new Archivum mission with random team who insisted on staying in the corridors during the event where you have to get through the corridors as fast as possible because stuff just keeps spawning... that was a painful experience...

[safe fulcrum]

Oh my god, just spent 3 min baiting a Damnation Plague ogryn around while a zealot tried to set it on fire....instead of using his hammer?!?!

[olive ember]

gotta get them burn stacks

[safe fulcrum]

I'm very rarely left so dumbfoundeed...

[olive ember]

its just the special heavy to the head with warp unleashed + enough warp charges + 100 peril

oh

and slaughterer stacks

[ionic frost]

maybe he tried charging thrust, charging it, then hitting it for no damage due to charge taking away thrust stacks?

or he could just be scared of the big bad ogryn

[tropic vigil]

i just found out you can RP walk in mourning star by holding ctrl

[echo turtle]

Wildfire with the Fs slaughterer combo really works

I am doing a wildfire deimos build and it’s crushing

[frank hazel]

Oh? May I see your deimos? (Dont make it weird)

[echo turtle]

It is not great tbh

sprry for potatoe

not sure if I want maniacs or carapace or flakk or whatever

[vestal raven]

maniac is good

[echo turtle]

just tryung this shit out and its working

I am gonna take CL cuz I thjnk scoreboard credits you your 25% damage buff on bosses

gonna try for a build that wins on everything

[echo turtle]

It seems to work

I got #1 in offensive score

won most catagories, only slightly behind a zealot in boss damage

[cold geode]

windows key + shift + S to take a proper screenshot

[echo turtle]

yeah I was about to start a game

though i realize i did have time

So yeah, wildfire with a deimos legit works

do we know if soulfire kills trigger warp absorption?

after a search thru it seems it does?

I’ll try it, I think I have this build pretty nailed down

[spice veldt]

yeah it does as long as soulblaze makes the killing blow

[echo turtle]

amazing

this build is like, broken

[obtuse moth]

prefer wildfire with illisi for pumping peril

[echo turtle]

using a diemos

when slaughterer is up is carves the horde up just as good as illisi

[obtuse moth]

you dont get the unstable power + warp unleashed power

soulblaze quells you super fast in dense hordes

and i like it for making sure harder targets die

with or without slaughterer stacks

[echo turtle]

I know how it works

[ionic frost]

low warp resist ftw =)

I have one deimos unstable+slaughterer with 9% warp resist

[obtuse moth]

still not comparable imo, but it sounds nice to have one so low

[spice veldt]

deimos hordeclear is good but not as good as illisi special-heavy spam (then again, most melee things aren't)

[obtuse moth]

we're talking about using it for wildifre

[ionic frost]

i carry best with purg

=)

[spice veldt]

oh oops I should've replied to rhino

[ionic frost]

3-1-3-1-2-2 deimos+purg ftw

[spice veldt]

purg is nice; i swapped off to 3x stamina duelling sword purg build and still dealt fine damage with it

[obtuse moth]

interesting, you swapped off your toughness build for it?

[spice veldt]

it was for daemonhost tanking

[ionic frost]

My ideal deimos sword would be all 80's with 0% warp resist, +25% flak+unarmored for wildfire killing power

[spice veldt]

though it was on heresy

[ionic frost]

I feel I don't need +maniac

[spice veldt]

since i was helping for malleus monstronum

I'm somewhat comfortable with taking toughness off as long as I'm not diving with melee

[obtuse moth]

but maniac for the mutant oneshots

[spice veldt]

which I'm not doing with the duelling sword

[ionic frost]

I never have problems tanking+dodging daemonhosts with only one +3 stam curio.

unlimited dodges ftw =)

[spice veldt]

i'm lazy and I don't want to learn the daemonhost dodge pattern

so I'd rather just hold RMB

[obtuse moth]

unlimited dodges is so strong

[ionic frost]

fair enough =)

[obtuse moth]

i can do it with 0 stamina if i just spam slide circles around a box

[spice veldt]

i forget about exploiting corners to dodge daemonhosts

[obtuse moth]

dont even stop blocking or quell

[ionic frost]

some places all you need to do is climb up some boxes to the upper level/jump back down, maybe block an attack once when he teleports

or she

saw a really good ogryn do that

[obtuse moth]

think the trapper is the only anatomical female enemy npc >_>

[ionic frost]

daemonhosts sound female

[spice veldt]

tox flamer

[obtuse moth]

i think the dh might have a female voicing but a male body

[ionic frost]

lol

trans-daemonhost =P

[obtuse moth]

i just assume its a female daemon possessing a male body

idk

idk 40k lore

[ionic frost]

me neither

did they cure cancer?

[obtuse moth]

doubt it, unless the emperor has cancer

google

is the topic of cancer ever brought up in 40k lore? : r/40kLore

Reddit
https://www.reddit.com › 40kLore › comments › is_th...
May 5, 2019 — The Imperium has a general cure for most cancers but this is only applicable before it metastasises; one character goes to a doctor and finds ...

[ionic frost]

Death from cancer in the 41st millennium is just the Emperor's will.

[cold geode]

why are my daggers bent?

[spice veldt]

stop sitting on them

[ionic frost]

tried to slash too hard, bent the metal rod in the cheap hilts.

They're for pokey pokey not slashy slashy.

[spice veldt]

your ass is too dummy thick

[tropic vigil]

moebian dagger

[ionic frost]

Man...duel wielding daggers when?

That'd get me excited.

[tropic vigil]

force daggers would be sick

[cold geode]

https://youtu.be/m6vYKJerstg?t=53

[ionic frost]

dual force daggers...

sounds OP

[kind jay]

dual force revolvers

[tropic vigil]

force charged bullets sound fun

[ionic frost]

Yes!

Force Shredder!

[snow coral]

so I've been using curious to buff toughness thinking that regens, can I do better overall if I go HP instead?

[echo turtle]

so yeah, this slaugterer deimos with wildfire and warp absorption is actually insanity

[spice veldt]

if you get hit often in melee or by enemies that ignore toughness or deal relative toughness damage, sure

[echo turtle]

just kick off the chain reaction and you have ultimate regen and damage until the fight is over

[snow coral]

i normoally don't, but I saw overall higher HP+tougness with HP buffed on some other psykers

[spice veldt]

I personally dislike engagements with ranged enemies the most and have a "kill faster than I die" mentality, so I stack toughness myself

yeah, we do have a higher HP, and health curios have better scaling than toughness curios

the max toughness that you can get is 166 (+66), whereas the max hp you can get is 267 (+117)

[snow coral]

yeah I'm 157 156

[ionic frost]

2x HP 1x Stam + 3x corrupt resist ftw

[snow coral]

I'm about to get a corruption resist because people keep picking up fucking grims

means I insta die if I go down once

[ionic frost]

3x sniper resist is good too, for when you dodge it but the game says "nope"

[echo turtle]

the diemos wildfire build

I tossed in cerebral lacerations to also just take boss ddamage

[ionic frost]

imho...if you say no grims at before I pick up a grim, I'll leave the mission. If you say it after I pick up a grim, your fault for not saying it earlier/being prepared. =)

[echo turtle]

Here is the build fellas. This build is legitimately broken

get the flames going and switch to the deimos and its absolute insanity

[ionic frost]

Which is why they need to remove RNG from mission selection. The people who join scripture/grimoire missions but don't want to do them can just pick non scrip/grim mission if they did that.

If you think you need 3 medipacks instead of a 2nd scripture on a mission, you're a heretic Nurgle worshipper!

[snow coral]

I just never care about secondaries. Scriptures fine, but grims are pointless. Pass them at melk for something else

[ionic frost]

Nah

I'm always starved for Ordo, maining 5 characters

Need that sweet, sweet Ordo.

Still haven't bought any cosmetics with Ordo, now they jacked up the prices.

[snow coral]

I more ordos than I know what to do with

[ionic frost]

They need to double the Ordo reward from missions for me to ever afford them.

[spice veldt]

i don't mind the challenge and grims give me an excuse to hittrade

i'm not an idiot who's taking chip damage; I'm an opportunist who is making use of the fact that my health is going down because of grims anyways

[snow coral]

That's why I think I might need to put one curio towards health, because with one grim I go below my bar, and I don't run wounds

[tropic vigil]

is blast radius relevant on voidstrike?

[snow coral]

so if I go down I'm straight dead and it's annoying

[ionic frost]

You need a second curio set for grimoire missions

[spice veldt]

pretty much for stagger

[ionic frost]

with corrupt resist and maybe some grim resist

[spice veldt]

the epicentre has a cleave limit, so the only thing that gets realistically scaled is the radius of the outer explosion

[tropic vigil]

my current staff has barrage so im trying to replace it

[spice veldt]

I'm personally fine with dumping a little bit of blast radius

[snow coral]

Problem is I just do quick plays to get in faster. I should just be more patient and pick non grim runs, but sometimes I get empty lobies

[ionic frost]

My preacher has 60% grim 24% corrup resist on a 2 stam 1 HP curio set...still trying to get a set like that with 45% corrup resist and some grim resist...ofc with sniper resist

[tropic vigil]

gambling at burts and i only got like 4 staffs in so if i can stop now thatd be nice

ill upgrade it a bit and see what hpapens

lmfao. barrage iii

[ionic frost]

Only one run in 20 doesn't get ppl in the lobby, and if I start alone people always join quickly...but I usually just leave and re-queue, sometimes getting in a mission halfway complete.

[idle aurora]

I stack hp-toughness regen speed-ability regen speed

[spice veldt]

you're going to barrage over those enemies so hard

[ionic frost]

I wish we could see damage taken stats for past day/week/month/lifetime.

[tropic vigil]

i have excess mats so i upgraded it to gold, ended up getting surge iv.

swapped barrage into flurry.

[ionic frost]

I wonder if snipers outdamage all other enemies combined. =D

[tropic vigil]

not much better than my last one but marginally better is better.

i should get rid of maniac right for flak right?

[ionic frost]

no crit to boost surge?

[tropic vigil]

didnt think of that.

[ionic frost]

voidstrike does poor damage to maniacs...so maybe warp flurry for nexus and specialist to crit?

[idle aurora]

I got so used to the cut recharge speed, that i probably couldn't go back

[tropic vigil]

might as well try it

[ionic frost]

Or specialist to flak?

and warp nexus for crit?

[spice veldt]

yeah i'm also thinking of stacking combat ability regen once I get dem curios

i do love psyker's ult

[ionic frost]

That's the problem...

[tropic vigil]

i gotta update me mods

[ionic frost]

getting the curios you want costs way more plasteel than getting a good weapon

[spice veldt]

yup

and if you want to change things around

tough fuckin luck

[ionic frost]

curios should only have 1 perk locked

[spice veldt]

I already dumped a shit ton of plasteel into certain curio configurations

[idle aurora]

But overall it works super well on purg build, horde is already melting and then you F and start burning it even more + knocking and staggering everything that's not yet dead

[ionic frost]

unstable power IV + slaughterer IV + 25% flak + 25% unarmoured = wildfire set FREE TO KILL!

ofc warp unleashed too

[echo turtle]

yeah it’s actually broken

[ionic frost]

well

[echo turtle]

warp absorption on top of that takes it to another level

[ionic frost]

if it couldn't do that, wildfire is absolutely useless

wildfire would have to be buffed

[echo turtle]

its the slaughterer synergy that breaks it

yeah hopefully when they eventually remove that interaction they up wilfire to 6 charhes

[ionic frost]

not nearly as broken as 75% toughness DR

[echo turtle]

truth

that was ridic

zealots were so broken for so long

But yeah, Warp absorption triggers on the DoT kills

so as soon as you start the chaun c@reaction the healing is like infinite

I took deflector, though I unstable 4 is pretty great

[ionic frost]

I'm talking about Vet DR

=)

[echo turtle]

oh lord

I forget how underpowered psykers were

[ionic frost]

And you usually don't need toughness regen when deleting everything...

But when pinned down behind a pillar, you do need toughness regen.

Quietitude ftw.

[echo turtle]

absorption imo still better

you can Bb 4 times and get more Toughness than you get from quelling

purg doesn’t generate the perils needed to make quiet worth

[ionic frost]

Only if you're trying to be rambo charging into 4 reaper firing squad that's shooting at you.

[echo turtle]

I do do that tho

tbh

[ionic frost]

low warp resist deimos/illisi generates all the peril u need to get back to 100% toughness in seconds

[echo turtle]

You have ti get the peril first

the time it takes to ramp peril and quell, you would have the same regen killing with absorption is what I’m getting at

[ionic frost]

only if there's a ton of fodder to kill

[echo turtle]

no not really

15 toughness per kill

[ionic frost]

and you already have the warp charges to power ascension

and can do it without taking health damage

[echo turtle]

3 warp kills is the same as quelling 100 to 0

[ionic frost]

I'll take a Quietitude buff. =)

10 for 10!

[echo turtle]

aha, it needs a buff or the ult needs to quell 100% honestly

ult not quelling 100% is ridic

[ionic frost]

I'll be invincible!

[echo turtle]

almost as invincible as everyone else

[ionic frost]

well I guess me playing a character is a lot different than the average pugger =)

[echo turtle]

Anyways, whatever regen you choose doesn’t matter. I know I get a lot more from@absorption but that is a ymmv situation

[ionic frost]

bring back deflection ranged block revives!

[echo turtle]

unleashed + wildfire + ab + slaughterer is absolutely crazy

[ionic frost]

how bad would wildfire be if there was no way for it to kill who it spreads to?

[echo turtle]

it wouldn’t be very good

I wouldn’t use it

[ionic frost]

you have to build for it to be good...nerf the things that make it good and you'd need to buff it

if they don't want it to be able to kill anything...they'd need to make it get everything to low health