tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:08 PM

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decimator is on hit and i dont think it wiffs

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:08 PM

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axes at least have brumo and decimator also works on bodyshots

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:08 PM

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it holds for xS

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:08 PM

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No headtaker holds

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:09 PM

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obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:09 PM

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Decimator and shred both whiff

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:09 PM

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tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:09 PM

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either way its way better

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cause hard to miss when you're lmb into a horde

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shits movin around in a horde sometimes you get an unfortunate miss

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weakspot*

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:09 PM

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Hard to miss a head when you're swinging a sword Ina 180 degreearc at head height

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You only need to hit one

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:10 PM

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decimator also gives more power and procs on bodyshots

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and force sword lights having 2 base cleave without slaughterer already active

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:10 PM

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obtuse moth Hard to miss a head when you're swinging a sword Ina 180 degreearc at head heigh...

might be a good idea to catch up on the convo before interjecting maybe

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Ye, the added power is definitely a consideration

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:10 PM

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and heavy-special spam being the best hordeclear on illisi anyways

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so all-in-all, I don't find executor that well on the illisi

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maybe on the deimos with light-spam

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:10 PM

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we were literally talking about the deimos lol

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:11 PM

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spice veldt

That icon/emoji pops up and stacks to 5.
It disapears:

immediately on a non-heaed strike
after 2 seconds.

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:11 PM

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you didn't say no to noth's question asking whether it was about illisi, so I assumed it was about the illisi

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:12 PM

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spice veldt you didn't say no to noth's question asking whether it was about illisi, so I as...

using illisi on psykarnium cusher

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:12 PM

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oh that was in response to widgetworks

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:12 PM

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I mean I put a caveat in more than a page ago and you failed to mention the Deimos this entire time since, not my problem

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:13 PM

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obtuse moth I mean I put a caveat in more than a page ago and you failed to mention the Deim...

LOL

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:13 PM

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The illisi was also directky mentioned in thw convo by Dornam

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Literally the message above yours

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:14 PM

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I have a deimos executor too..
What do you want to test.

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:15 PM

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i'll keep it in mind to make footnotes in my messages to ensure everyone knows whats being discussed in the future ty for the advice

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:16 PM

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i mean you could've not be condescending about it and just clarified over it, but here we are

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:16 PM

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spice veldt i mean you could've not be condescending about it and just clarified over it, bu...

im not sure that word works in that sentence but if you say so

obtuse moth May 31, 2023, 9:16 PM

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Was a specific message reply, and I opened with an if statement that had the exact conditional in my response.

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:16 PM

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something something colloquial

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i'm not going to spend a minute thinking about how to word it if you're going to get the point anyways

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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nah i get it but words matter

rare wadi May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Does psyker class really need to use the staff or can I chill with a gun

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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feel free to use a gun

rare wadi May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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I need to kill fast, but magic too slow

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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the only worry is toughness regen

rare wadi May 31, 2023, 9:17 PM

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Ahy

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Ah

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:19 PM

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since quietude relies on peril generation, warp absorption on warp kills, and then there's essence harvest

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if you're using the shredder autopistol, you have 15 toughness/s from coherency regen when standing still, though you have 5 toughness/s when moving

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:19 PM

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rare wadi I need to kill fast, but magic too slow

use a better staff

rare wadi May 31, 2023, 9:20 PM

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Need to find flamer staff

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burn them all

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:20 PM

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so if you stack toughness regen speed and stand still, that comes out to 28.5 toughness/s when in coherency with all of your toughness, which is neat

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:20 PM

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rare wadi Need to find flamer staff

yes, this is correct

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burn them all is the correct answer

rare wadi May 31, 2023, 9:20 PM

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spy check every9one

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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Burn does damage over time.. time a rager won't give you.
LMB staggers lots, and burn a little
RMB doesn't stagger, but burns a little more
Hit a charger with LMB,, then RMB for 2 seconds.. Repeat

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:23 PM

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hm

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i feel like i just rmb lmb ragers and they just... die

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:24 PM

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tender terrace i feel like i just rmb lmb ragers and they just... die

peril economy.

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:24 PM

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idk what that is

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i just hold the button

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:25 PM

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LMB gets them to stop charging you..
RMB baths them with more damage than LMB could.. for same amount of ... mana

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:26 PM

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i just treat pskyer like sienna unchainned tbh

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:26 PM

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I don't know VT .. so maybe?

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:26 PM

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spam buttons till boom hit f rinse repeat

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7.5 second cd on F key, ez game

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How Many People Will I Trigger With This Image?

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:28 PM

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I dont know VT.
Bt looks pay2win. so not a fan

void mural May 31, 2023, 9:28 PM

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spice veldt if you're using the shredder autopistol, you have 15 toughness/s from coherency ...

Huh? Do you mean 15/second when quelling?

tacit venture May 31, 2023, 9:29 PM

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tender terrace How Many People Will I Trigger With This Image?

Reeeeeeee

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:29 PM

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split oxide I dont know VT. Bt looks pay2win. so not a fan

unchained was basically you kept as high of "peril" as possible and you got a damage buff just like pskyer but the higher the peril the less overall damage you took too

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melee wizard

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:30 PM

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tacit venture Reeeeeeee

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the zealot and vet bundles are kinda ass tho

tacit venture May 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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i bought a few cosmetics too, enjoy

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 9:31 PM

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the pskyer feet kinda silly, a peg leg?

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i guess that would work if you have the german sounding guy

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:32 PM

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tender terrace unchained was basically you kept as high of "peril" as possible and you got a da...

I play melee psyker - a lot.

slide into charged slash.

Breacher:

slide into purg., advance-repeat
can't do slide-quell .. but dunno if that's also broken atm.

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:34 PM

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void mural Huh? Do you mean 15/second when quelling?

so, the shredder autopistol is an "assault" weapon which is supposed to have 15 toughness regen per second from coherency while moving (and 5 while standing still), but they got it reversed and made it so that you have 15 tough/s while standing still

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for reference, most weapons give you 7.5 toughness regen per second from coherency

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here's a demonstration of shredder autopistol regen with +90% toughness regen speed

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https://streamable.com/grgtjp

Streamable

toughness_regen_shredder_90% tough speed

▶ Play video

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at 80% quell speed and when quelling from 100% peril, you quell 12.31% peril four times in a single second (250ms per tick), so that's 24.6% toughness from quietude per second

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:37 PM

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spice veldt https://streamable.com/grgtjp

Lol, that's marginally better than 72.5% toughness regen.

void mural May 31, 2023, 9:38 PM

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spice veldt so, the shredder autopistol is an "assault" weapon which is supposed to have 15 ...

Huh, so different weapons affect your coherency toughness regen?

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:38 PM

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How do you spawn bots? I don't remember seeing it in regulars-list

void mural May 31, 2023, 9:38 PM

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I wish that this was said somewhere in game

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I didn't even know that wad a mechanic

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:38 PM

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it's a separate mod from creature spawner

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i sorta knew but didn't realize the autopistol was one of these weapons

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I have this mod that shows my stats and one of the stats is coherency toughness regen

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which is how i realized

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https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/27

Nexus Mods :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Bot Spawner

Allows spawning bot players in self-hosted lobbies.

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here's the mod that shows my stats https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/152

Nexus Mods :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

InventoryStats

Displays some character stats in the inventory screen

void mural May 31, 2023, 9:39 PM

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Ugh, fucking fatshark hiding all the weapon stats

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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it's not necessarily accurate

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i think?

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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Most guns have killshot toughness which is (reversed) more toughness regen while moving and ads

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:40 PM

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yeah the laspistol has different toughness regen speeds while moving/standing still depending on whether you're hipfiring or in ADS

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weird af

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i don't think the inventorystats mod represents that accurately at least (or doesn't split the speed up into hipfire or ADS at least)

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though I haven't checked the regen speed of the laspistol yet

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 9:42 PM

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It's assault toughness on laspistol

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:42 PM

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so 15 toughness/s same as the shredder while standing still (and then reversed while ADSing)?

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 9:43 PM

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Killshot on ads

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Killshot multiplier is 2 moving 0.5 still

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default is 1.5

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assault is 3 still 1 moving

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 9:44 PM

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its weird because when i first looked at those stats

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i assumed they would be the other way round

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but i guess the idea is u want to regen while repositioning with killshot and taking cover while not moving with assault? idk

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the whole system is very odd

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 9:45 PM

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you would expect that because that is what it says

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but when it says look at the still and moving modifier and assign them to A and B, it does B and A

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:46 PM

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thanks for the info

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 9:46 PM

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literally a one line fix

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so ping catshark so she can pester the gameplay guys

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:53 PM

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TRegen: 11.4
lets see waht it's with bots

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:55 PM

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I legit have no use for kinetic barrage they way I play with illisi psyker

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I could BB or

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I could run face first into all the enemies

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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0.5 seconds could be the difference between a teammate getting the kill or you getting it

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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AB is good with slaughterer right

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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yeah

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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I'll try that next

olive ember May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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The problem is getting stacks

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cuz you expend stacks and you need like atleast 4 charges

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:56 PM

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ember hornet I legit have no use for kinetic barrage they way I play with illisi psyker

I use kineticBarrage against monstrisities and horde of bullwark/crushers

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:57 PM

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well yes

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but also I was just meleeing bulwarks lol

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depends how much the team is pushing

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I have mash special ingrained in my brain from playing hammer

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and I kept killing myself lol

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cause I was double tapping at 100 on accident

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:58 PM

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foolish fool

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 9:58 PM

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lethal folio but when it says look at the still and moving modifier and assign them to A and ...

kek that explains it

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:58 PM

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i could never ever be greedy for a kill and accidentally activate my special at 100

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 9:58 PM

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i never investigated why it was backwards

split oxide May 31, 2023, 9:58 PM

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My stamina allows for 2x pushes.
Bulwarks needs 2x to open them up from the side.
i've seen 8 Crushers/Bullwarks ambush us.
retreat. ..retreat. ..retreat. ..

Against Monstrosities.

1x BB sends me to 50
KB sends me to 0
I get another 5x BB super quick.
They get super aggroed tho.. they switch targets to you .. and you got a lot of dodging/running to do.. unless your teammates block.

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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I mean

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if nobody is capable and damaging and CCing ogryns

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yes

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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i don't trust my teammates, so I prefer to just BB bulwarks

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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BB is nice

olive ember May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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I mean for lazorr's purposes I guess a trauma build is best but

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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and obviously the correct choice

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yeah I think I'ma run trauma

olive ember May 31, 2023, 9:59 PM

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trauma builds use KB normally im pretty sure

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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I recognize kb is good but

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I ain't sitting there BBing stuff for 10 seconds

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like ever

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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I use KB with purgatus

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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maybe on a bigger map

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and not new map

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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i don't often use it during its duration

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 10:00 PM

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sycorax is flamer heaven

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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deleting the specials it one shots when they spread out or at various ranges

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its ok

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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AB seems like it would be sick for new map

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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sometimes I pop my ult to kill two enemies faster

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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or instakilling them when they are coming in

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now they have the specials coming in conga line

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the speed on the bb is nice too

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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true

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morale of the story

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illisi is busted as fuck

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:01 PM

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or when getting battered by a horde and that 0.5 seconds help in not getting whacked when trying to kill a sniper

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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BB is good when theres like 2 trappers + a sniper + a bomber

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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nooo my illisi my precious baby it's not busted

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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and you just press F and in like 3 seconds kill 3 of em

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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I played as braindead and hold W zealot as I possibly could

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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spice veldt nooo my illisi my precious baby it's not busted

very true needs buffs

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doesn't have power cycler

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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and man....

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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we could tell

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:02 PM

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tbf most of my damage was from blowing myself up

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lol

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:03 PM

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lmao yeah

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:03 PM

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I like void more on different maps

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that one is just a lot of close quarters and sprinting through

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:04 PM

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olive ember doesn't have power cycler

oof .. illisi powrcycled

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I moved from Trauma > Surge > Void > Surge > Purg.
I moved from Obscurus > Deimos > Illisi..
I haven't really 'moved back' on most of my weapons.. so experiences may be 'out-of-date' with buffs and nerfs

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330k missions out of 400k monstrostiesd complete.. Stage 2 will be finished tomorrow.

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:12 PM

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Here’s hoping

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:12 PM

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I also really like chainsword with bloodletter on purg build, helps to strike down single targets pretty fast

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 10:14 PM

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I can attest to that

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:15 PM

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olive ember Here’s hoping

stage 2 benefitted from 'level multipliers'
stage 3 might unironically be weeks

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:16 PM

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Stage 3 should be getting multipliers as well

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atleast they should

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:16 PM

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my tinhat theory is the counts are entirely artificial and the new map will drop this weekend as has always been the plan

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:17 PM

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olive ember atleast they should

else "everyone speedrunning 2x man private Sedition missions"

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:18 PM

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cyan portal my tinhat theory is the counts are entirely artificial and the new map will drop...

people were saying that stage 1 the count was increasing by like 40k a second

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either way I think the damn thing is gonna be rigged if it takes too long or wte

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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But even if the count is real, 1400000 mission completes, damn counts for 5 per player. so it is 70,000 damn missions complete, won't take long.

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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Everyone looking for their level but shock-troop

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:19 PM

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cyan portal But even if the count is real, 1400000 mission completes, damn counts for 5 per ...

Isn't it just 1 mil?

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:20 PM

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yup 900k now

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:20 PM

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inb4 need a hotfix for the new map

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:21 PM

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If they have no multiplier,, we be karked

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:21 PM

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idle aurora Isn't it just 1 mil?

Maybe, you seem to be right, i think they changed it I guess? Or i have bad memory, a likely explanation.

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:22 PM

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ember hornet inb4 need a hotfix for the new map

New map implementation breaks game for AMD users again

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:22 PM

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cyan portal Maybe, you seem to be right, i think they changed it I guess? Or i have bad memo...

changed to 900k yeah

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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split oxide If they have no multiplier,, we be karked

In faq they said that its 4x5 per damn mission, so 20, and that means 50k damn missions to complete

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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so 900k/25 so 36k damnation mission completions

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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4x5 if 4 players are in a damn match

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3x5 if 3 players are in a damn match

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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wait

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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olive ember so 900k/25 so 36k damnation mission completions

Already lowered it?

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:23 PM

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its 900/20

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braindead

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45k damnation mission completion

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:24 PM

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idle aurora Already lowered it?

well we haven't hit stage 3 yet but the original post said 1.4 mil but now its apparently 900k

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45k damnation missions, assuming we have like what 10k players apparently today

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thats 4 damnation per player

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but realistically more

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:24 PM

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you're all assuming multipliers

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:25 PM

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olive ember thats 4 damnation per player

people play all mission difs

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:25 PM

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They said there would be multipliers so yeah

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and I'm going to assume they aren't stupid

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but we'll see when we get to it

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:25 PM

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It is a safe assumption. From the forums "Missions:
Player mission wins is a difficulty weighted value for individual player wins, not unique missions won. For example if a team of three players complete one mission on the fourth difficulty (Heresy) then the counter is increased by 3 * 4 = 12. Similarly, if a team of four players complete a mission on the fifth difficulty (Damnation), the counter is increased by 4 * 5 = 20. As a result, If we only have full teams running Damnation missions (then a total of 1 000 000 / 20 🙂 50 000 unique mission wins would be enough to complete the challenge."

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:25 PM

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split oxide you're all assuming multipliers

catfish posted in faq how it will count

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:26 PM

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lunar hollow people play all mission difs

yeah so I'm realistically saying like 2k or 3k damnation players yeah

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out of 8k

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25% players

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so 45k/3k is 15 damnation games per player

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so somewhere between 4 and 15 damnation games

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:26 PM

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steam chart numbers

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:27 PM

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But I'm also expecting # of players to start going down tbh

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:28 PM

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so assuming malice missions (3 points each), i suppose that each active player will have to complete 77 missions if I'm doing the math right

olive ember May 31, 2023, 10:28 PM

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prob gonna be closer to 6k or 5k in a few days rather than 8k

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure it will drop fri night/sat morning. Just makes sense for them to release it to get players over the weekend.

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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77 missions is oddly, the amount of T3 missions you need to do from level 1 to lvl 30

ember hornet May 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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why do you know this

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 10:29 PM

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huh

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fun fact

split oxide May 31, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Right, I'm gonna go and 'do my part'.
Diff game I know.

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:34 PM

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split oxide Right, I'm gonna go and 'do my part'. Diff game I know.

The only good heretic/bug is a dead heretic/bug

tropic vigil May 31, 2023, 10:35 PM

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i do hope that one day more things will be added and playercount can increase

safe crystal May 31, 2023, 10:37 PM

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The next time you'll see a larger player count increase is when a new class/subclass/whatever is released

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Even with new maps and weapons, its still the same 4 classes you're playing on

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:37 PM

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player counts will rise with updates and slowly descend back to the regular

safe crystal May 31, 2023, 10:37 PM

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It gets stale very quickly

tropic vigil May 31, 2023, 10:38 PM

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i want fatshark/darktide to be successful. there is a huge dedicated warhammer fanbase, but i think gamers are kind of tired of just halfbaked games

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new classes and a lot more weps yea.

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:38 PM

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once fatshark gives us a 'content drop' that isnt cosmetics with decals missing, tattoos, and more than 2 maps

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there'll be a rise in players

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admittedly the one map we've got so far is really good

tropic vigil May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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hopefully we get it sooner than later. i think they did great with the current map but more needs to be done.

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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i think we're probably not getting that much content until the console port is done

tropic vigil May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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yeah i do think this map is pretty solid and the pacing on it is nice.

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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there's a screenshot somewhere of hedge saying theyre close to being finished but cant give any further details

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:39 PM

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tropic vigil yeah i do think this map is pretty solid and the pacing on it is nice.

it encourages you to hold W the whole way through

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don't have to do much scrounging for plasteel or anything

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i like it

tropic vigil May 31, 2023, 10:40 PM

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yea

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people are less inclined to split up too

lunar hollow May 31, 2023, 10:41 PM

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yep

cyan portal May 31, 2023, 10:45 PM

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My favorite thing about the new map is it is very solo friendly, can't wait for a hi int damn modifier to drop to make it an interesting challenge

ionic frost May 31, 2023, 10:47 PM

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maybe variants come "Next Week ™️ "

idle aurora May 31, 2023, 10:50 PM

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From the small snippets 2nd map will also have some long ass bridges where i can unleash my warp barbeque

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 10:57 PM

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ya good plan drop this weekend, nothing going on in the gaming world this weekend, seems like a great time

split oxide May 31, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Today's gonna be the ast day for me for a bit.
Beta for RogueTrader drops tomorrow.

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:12 PM

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spice veldt so assuming malice missions (3 points each), i suppose that each active player w...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075774179665772566/1113596749370638488/image.png

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u know whats boutta go down

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 11:14 PM

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bom

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all the poxwalkers are going bom

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:15 PM

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u best believe

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26min game

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hehehe

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 11:18 PM

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bom

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also 1.1k damage taken by a vet

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 11:18 PM

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lmao big oof

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:19 PM

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nobody is ready for bom

tender terrace May 31, 2023, 11:23 PM

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rumbler?

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:24 PM

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left click baby

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rumbler shovel of course

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im not a savage

harsh urchin May 31, 2023, 11:31 PM

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viral solstice

which mod?

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:33 PM

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oh just normal scoreboard

harsh urchin May 31, 2023, 11:55 PM

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i need to figure out which mods everyone runs

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is there a mod that makes the block on force swords less obnoxious

lethal folio May 31, 2023, 11:56 PM

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yes

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:56 PM

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i think so

harsh urchin May 31, 2023, 11:56 PM

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what else is good

viral solstice May 31, 2023, 11:56 PM

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uhh

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creature spawner so u can spawn enemies in psykhanium

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healthbars

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stuff like toggle sprint / toggle ads

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or sticky sprint

spice veldt May 31, 2023, 11:59 PM

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harsh urchin is there a mod that makes the block on force swords less obnoxious

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/104

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CustomHUD lets you move your UI elements around

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barter with hadron lets you sell items while in hadron's inventory, which is nice for me because my normal inventory lags a shit ton for some reason while it's perfectly fine in hadron's inventory

tidal scaffold Jun 1, 2023, 12:01 AM

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Like healthbars in the main game and not just psykhanium I dunno why that feels kinda cheap to me

viral solstice Jun 1, 2023, 12:02 AM

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it is cheap

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should either be default functionality or not allowed

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but it is what it is

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shoobieFEELS

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 12:04 AM

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yeah it gives a very real advantage, especially when you can disable it for specific enemies so it doesn't even visually clutter your screen that much

tidal scaffold Jun 1, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Only really need it for elites

viral solstice Jun 1, 2023, 12:05 AM

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no

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every poxwalker

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NEMESIS

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i must know

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his pain

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 12:07 AM

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i suppose it will do

tidal scaffold Jun 1, 2023, 12:17 AM

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tender terrace i suppose it will do

Looks pretty damn good to me

autumn spire Jun 1, 2023, 12:26 AM

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my first sword

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 12:42 AM

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autumn spire my first sword

is bloodthirsty actually decent on this

autumn spire Jun 1, 2023, 12:44 AM

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I mean i'd prefer slaughterer but I think bloodthristy will be fine until then

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I just hit 30 so I'm not too stressed

lunar hollow Jun 1, 2023, 12:45 AM

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slaughterer is what makes da force sword do crazy shit

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bloodthirsty is one of the contenders for things u can use besides slaughterer

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 12:46 AM

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i suppose i ask because i have this and maybe it would be ok with bloodthirsty + slaughterer

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disgusting perks tho

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 1:00 AM

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gotta get reroll mod

acoustic osprey Jun 1, 2023, 1:07 AM

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what to reroll here?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 1:34 AM

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if you're running +stam or kinetic deflection, i'd reroll block eff into stamina regen
or toughness regen speed into a higher tier

ashen pilot Jun 1, 2023, 1:44 AM

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i recommend rerolling toughness into gunner or sniper resist

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 1:53 AM

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tender terrace i suppose i ask because i have this and maybe it would be ok with bloodthirsty +...

you can

pallid smelt Jun 1, 2023, 1:56 AM

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i am oficially done with staffs

fresh vessel Jun 1, 2023, 2:02 AM

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Like back to shooty shoots or you've made some decent ones and got the worthwhile blessings.

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:04 AM

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ok im converted illisi pretty sick with the right setup

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did not consider when you special swing through many things it procs 10% reduction so often

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also naturally quells pretty damn fast

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:19 AM

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autumn spire my first sword

slaughterer > deflector

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:20 AM

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tender terrace ok im converted illisi pretty sick with the right setup

Illisi is awesome, It single handedly makes warp absorption viable

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:23 AM

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definitely not something i even notice tbh lol

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it is fun to swing tho

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and you run pretty fast with heavy swing charged

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hit crusher with a big ol trauma charged blast with rending and slice it in half pretty satisfying

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oh holys hit you can charge it at 99% too

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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yeah

analog agate Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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I’m just trying surge. Do I do a full charge to take out gunners? Or just spam tap?

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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get all the buffs it’s insane

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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charge the surge staff to get more damage out of it per peril and time

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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analog agate I’m just trying surge. Do I do a full charge to take out gunners? Or just spam t...

half charge for gunners wearing flakk

analog agate Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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Ok thanks

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:33 AM

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unarmored gunners take 0 damage from@lightning

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well, it’s almost nothing

analog agate Jun 1, 2023, 2:34 AM

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Aye. I have my illisi for that

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:34 AM

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dreg gunners count as flak to the surge staff secondary

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:34 AM

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the guys in yellow dont

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:34 AM

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yellow dreg gunners do

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dreg stalkers don't

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:35 AM

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i’ll have to go and see for myself which do and dont now again

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the guys with headwraps are flak?

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:35 AM

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man idk how people didn't mention the best feature you run FAST AS FUCK with this heavy

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:37 AM

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yeah force sword heavies make you run pretty fast

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if you slide -> begin a heavy -> hold your heavy and run, you go pretty fast

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:38 AM

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yeah but like

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this is like swinging a ps

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and you run very fast

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and its kinda nutty

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:38 AM

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all force sword heavies seem to have this property

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:38 AM

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also i just found out how good force absorb is lmao

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stuck in a corner just constantly swinging at 100% toughness pretty lit

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Does Surge the blessing apply to voidbolt alt fire?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:41 AM

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yeah it works properly on voidstrike

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:41 AM

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im half even in on swapping back to purg over trauma with illisi

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:41 AM

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it's only trauma's secondary that it doesn't work on

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:41 AM

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Even works for lightning?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:42 AM

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Surge (staff) and Purgatus don't have Surge (blessing) in their pools

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:42 AM

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i see

shy prairie Jun 1, 2023, 2:42 AM

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toptier bangs

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:43 AM

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what i got so far

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651949906965168141/1113656414318112858/image.png

restive slate Jun 1, 2023, 2:44 AM

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So how viable is a Surge+WarpNexus Voidstrike?

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:48 AM

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jesus the games have been fucking awful tonight, people just playing slow as fuck

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:48 AM

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restive slate So how viable is a Surge+WarpNexus Voidstrike?

everyone keeps saying surge sucks so idk

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seems like it would be pretty cool to shoot two bubbles

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:49 AM

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Literally more than double damage on crit

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:49 AM

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i wouldnt use transfer peril tho

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you get enough from baseline feat and you want to be at high peril anyway

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:50 AM

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taking warp nexus + surge also means giving up flurry

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and crits themselves only deal +30% more damage (assuming you hit a bodyshot)

glass badge Jun 1, 2023, 2:50 AM

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Do both balls get the 30%?

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:51 AM

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i dont like it personaly

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i prefer the vt2 one

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hit harder but real space between his patterns actions

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and not random aggro swap bullshit

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:52 AM

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bro

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i had that troll me today

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was at 10 damage whole fucking run and cspawn randomly turns at me

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cringe

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:53 AM

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i never hitted him , busied to clean the shit and keep safe my team from trashs and shooters

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they aggro him

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fight him

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10 sec afters he travel like 20 m to reach me

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KEKW_ogryn

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:53 AM

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is this a decent base if all i want to do with it is cc big shit and ranged

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like all this thing does is make things flail around right

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:53 AM

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its a decent one

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but imo you shouldnt use surge

analog agate Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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Surge sucks eith the bug going on

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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is p crap

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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i dont want to use it

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i just want to use it to make shit flail about

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trauma takes too much peril

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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purgatus ?

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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purg does not make big shit flail about

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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loregryn

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:54 AM

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well maybe not as fast as i am hoping

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doesnt surge put a rager on its ass

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or was that changed

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pretty sure i saw it today where someone push the burster across the map

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:55 AM

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poxbursters are the only enemies that surge knocks around

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otherwise, surge just makes enemies flail about in place

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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does it do it reliably to crushers

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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ye

analog agate Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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Ya, surge sucks compared to trauma

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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and do i need to charge it

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or can i primary

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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as far as I can tell, charging changes nothing except damage

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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fuck yeah

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this is gonna be sick then

pallid smelt Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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trauma is only good with a good roll imo

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:56 AM

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primary is a normal bolt that is the exact same as trauma and voidstrike's

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though surge has that high crit chance and the LMB bolt having one of the better crit multipliers in this game for some ungodly reason

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:57 AM

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trauma eats way too much peril

pallid smelt Jun 1, 2023, 2:57 AM

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idk im sick of all staffs at this point

autumn spire Jun 1, 2023, 2:57 AM

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echo turtle slaughterer > deflector

Slaughterer + Bloodthristy is the way to go?

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:57 AM

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slaughterer deflector

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or peril

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bloodthirsty seems ok on illisi tho

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:57 AM

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i'd want slaughterer for even more damage on an illisi

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bloodthirsty is fine as long as you have things to kill

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:58 AM

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autumn spire Slaughterer + Bloodthristy is the way to go?

slaughterer unstable is my fave, but slaughterer is BiS

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 2:58 AM

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mines bloodthirsty slaughterer and i miss deflect

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:58 AM

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here's a comparison between unstable power and bloodthirsty/crits

autumn spire Jun 1, 2023, 2:58 AM

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I just have deflector/bloodthristy because the other blessing was not too good iirc

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I definitely wanted slaughterer

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:58 AM

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wow crits suck

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:59 AM

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yeah the illisi's special has a reduced crit multiplier

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:59 AM

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aaaah

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 2:59 AM

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oh I should probably write in that those numbers are about illisi's special

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oops

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 2:59 AM

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does uncanny strike do much for the illisi?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:00 AM

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though in exchange, it maintains this reduced crit multiplier for three targets instead of the single target for normal attacks

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depends

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on special attacks, the only armour type against which it does <100% damage is carapace

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:00 AM

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it’s in the target, not a buff to you right?

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ah

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:00 AM

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uncanny strike gives +rending% to attacks that come from you

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:00 AM

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ok, that would help non charged attacks tho?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:00 AM

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brittleness is the debuff that gives +rending% to all attacks that go to the enemy with that debuff

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force sword heavies have pretty good armour mods, with the only armour type against which it does <100% being carapace (does 65% damage to carapace)

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the illisi special does 75% damage to carapace

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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so brittle kinda meh

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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Big E just gve me a 496 illisi, I’ma try it out

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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all it does is make up that 25%?

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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it has uncanny

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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yup

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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waste of time to charge trauma then

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surge it is

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:01 AM

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ah, yeah the charge attacks will get fuck all

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:02 AM

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so 40% rending will make you deal 75% + 10% = 85% damage to carapace instead with illisi's special, with the 10% coming from 40% * (100% - 75%)

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:02 AM

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gunker with illisi slaps btw

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:03 AM

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I primarily like rending shockwave in the event that I have a purg psyker on my team just so that soulblaze can start ticking on crushers

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though now that they removed sprinting with staff secondaries, I've just swapped to using warp flurry + rending shockwave anyways since the other blessings blow ass

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:04 AM

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guys in yellow btw, the non specialists. are unarmored

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 AM

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yeah the dreg stalkers are unarmoured #psyker-class message

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 AM

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ok i guess not

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surge targeting is ass

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 AM

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dreg gunners are counted as flak by surge's secondary

cosmic sigil Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Do you have have a list of the bis perks / blessing for each staff? And eventually the dump stats too

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:05 AM

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i thought the surge would chain farther

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:06 AM

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after testing, uncanncy strike sucks ass on the illisi

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:06 AM

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but reaper behind flak shooters not getting hit

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cringe

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:06 AM

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its 6 trgets

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mac

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max

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:06 AM

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uncanny strike is mostly if you're doing stuff like light-spamming and whatnot or against carapace, which ends up being a bit niche

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or to get some extra stagger

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:06 AM

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yeah, its just not good on thsi weapon

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:07 AM

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yeah prob better mileage on the deimos

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:08 AM

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yeah ok holy fuck its awful

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wont even stagger a pack of flaks lmao

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at least trauma would throw them around

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:18 AM

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lightning staff is great

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It takes some learning tho

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:20 AM

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great at what exactly

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not hitting half the things you aim at

vestal raven Jun 1, 2023, 3:22 AM

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lmao

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:23 AM

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You need to learn how to use it

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if you want to do good with it

restive slate Jun 1, 2023, 3:23 AM

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Surge is fantastic

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 3:23 AM

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great at doing no damage

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:23 AM

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its not something you pick up and just succveed with

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it does lots vs flakk

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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i didn't even want it to do damage

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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and shuts down disablers and bursters

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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i just wanted it to cc targets and it doesn't even do that

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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it does, again you need to learn when to use it and when not to

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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surge is ok if ur not maining it

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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Actually hey, ur the expert here

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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its kinda just there not doing much

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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hit a pack of flak shooters and all you do is kick a hornets nest cause you only hit 6 of them

restive slate Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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I was a surge main before a Purg main

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:24 AM

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I have only used that weapon alone for 90+ hours

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but you tell me how it works

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:25 AM

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wow 90 hours

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that is huge buddy

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:25 AM

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it's certainly not a generalist staff with suppression and whatnot if you're looking for that capability out of surge

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:25 AM

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fucking zoomers man

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:25 AM

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lmao zoomer

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ty for the compliment but im definitely an old man

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:26 AM

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Big E blesssed me

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ragers are specialists right?

primal fjord Jun 1, 2023, 3:29 AM

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What would y'all say is a good perks for a Illisi, besides Maniac?

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:29 AM

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Specialists or flakk

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assuming ragers are specialists

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:30 AM

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ragers are elite mutants

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err

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maniac lol

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:30 AM

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i'd probably go for flak

primal fjord Jun 1, 2023, 3:30 AM

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loregryn

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 3:31 AM

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or if you have a t4 unstable + t4 slaughterer illisi with warp unleashed, then perhaps +infested to oneshot 20 poxwalkers with headshots

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though the illisi doesn't need that much more hordeclear

echo turtle Jun 1, 2023, 3:31 AM

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I have that illisi

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 3:39 AM

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ragers are not specials

marsh kayak Jun 1, 2023, 3:43 AM

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tell me this shit dont go hard yo

tender terrace Jun 1, 2023, 3:43 AM

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shits bussin frfr ong

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pants a lil tattered tho

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 3:48 AM

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it goes mid

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way too bulky

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u just look like a rectangle

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 3:56 AM

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people still helpin out with malleus monstronum at all

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are there like

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secret meetings

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in dark alleys

orchid shadow Jun 1, 2023, 3:57 AM

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You need to speak the pass phrase.. with your mind only.

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 3:57 AM

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frog_lick

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are you getting that

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prayge

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staregryn

orchid shadow Jun 1, 2023, 3:58 AM

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Cannot unsee.

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 3:58 AM

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NM_peepoBlood

orchid shadow Jun 1, 2023, 3:58 AM

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What kinda of help were you looking for? Someone to tank it? Or someone who has a Shield Ogryn alt?

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 4:00 AM

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Oh, I was just curious if anyone needed to trade for it or anyting. Like I tank one, they tank the next, or w/e.

Thinking about it, it might just be way easier to wait for lights out for the guarenteed demonhost

orchid shadow Jun 1, 2023, 4:00 AM

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That might be best if you're not in a rush. With the addition of the Chaos spawn, the monstrosity pool I imagine just got a little harder to luck into a DH.

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 4:01 AM

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yesgryn

broken carbon Jun 1, 2023, 4:07 AM

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topaz yoke Oh, I was just curious if anyone needed to trade for it or anyting. Like I tank ...

plague ogryns are also fairly easy to solo if you get a private game going

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 4:10 AM

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broken carbon plague ogryns are also fairly easy to solo if you get a private game going

are you saying you want to go into a private game with me

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frog_shy

broken carbon Jun 1, 2023, 4:10 AM

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lmfaooo

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im about to go to sleep unfortunately

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it is 12 where i am

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 4:10 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/wasted-gta-gif-21874257

Tenor

broken carbon Jun 1, 2023, 4:10 AM

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lmao

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maybe tomorrow though

quasi pier Jun 1, 2023, 4:12 AM

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I work nights or I would help. Try posting in the lfg channels though

topaz yoke Jun 1, 2023, 4:14 AM

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broken carbon maybe tomorrow though

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-at-last-gif-14253211

Tenor

north cradle Jun 1, 2023, 4:46 AM

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Well I found something to finally spend my Imperial Edition money on

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The Ogryn cosmetic set

autumn smelt Jun 1, 2023, 4:57 AM

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what refusing to gamble does to a mf

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marsh kayak Jun 1, 2023, 5:07 AM

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cyan notch u just look like a rectangle

It’s all muscle baby

full bane Jun 1, 2023, 5:08 AM

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Lil’uns are getting a tattoo of the Big E himself this current milestone

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 5:10 AM

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autumn smelt

yo

kindred sand Jun 1, 2023, 5:17 AM

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what is the easy way to do the 5 brainbursts in 12 seconds penance?

shy prairie Jun 1, 2023, 5:21 AM

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flurry

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 5:22 AM

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it was fortunately changed to 4 brainbursts in 12 seconds

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commsplex has a midevent that spams a bunch of shotgunners and gunners at you

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the shotgunners and gunners spawn from where you dropped down from, so you can just gank them before your team has an opportunity to by being pretty forward

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or you get shitty teammates who can't kill them and leave them all for you

tribal marten Jun 1, 2023, 5:53 AM

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how do different sources of block efficiency interact? i have 12% from Deflector, 15% from a perk on the sword, and 10% from a curio

summer prairie Jun 1, 2023, 6:05 AM

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Multiplicatively, but deflector is ranged blocks only

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:08 AM

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so with the numbers provided, you would then take (1 - 0.15) * (1 - 0.10) = 76.5% of the stamina damage that you would usually have taken against melee, and (1 - 0.12) * (1 - 0.15) * (1 - 0.10) = 67.3% of the stamina damage that you would have usually taken against ranged

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 6:08 AM

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im not gonna lie the lack of any challenging mutations over the last 2 days is completely killing my motivation to play rn

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:09 AM

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don't you love electric boogaloo 2: hunting grounds

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 6:11 AM

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oh its just the BEST

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ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS ALWAYS LOW INTENSITY

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i guess i could take this time to level one of my other classes stranded at 15 since there isnt anything worth playing in damnation

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or

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and hear me out

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im just gonna go play space marine

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:13 AM

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do cocaine

fast python Jun 1, 2023, 6:13 AM

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what blessings and perks do i want on surge staff?

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 6:14 AM

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i can also start boltgun or do speed freeks too

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:14 AM

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boltgun is nice, but prepare to get lost if you don't consult a guide

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i'm currently stuck on a level cuz I apparently didn't pick up a door key and now I'm just procrastinating on it lmao

pine relic Jun 1, 2023, 6:18 AM

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Noice

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:19 AM

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nice

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seeing people dump stat ~~warp res~~ quell speed saddens me though

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 6:19 AM

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why

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EXPLAIN

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:19 AM

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cuz quell speed is nice

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IS NICE

pine relic Jun 1, 2023, 6:20 AM

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Any trauma build? I want to try this staff now.

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:20 AM

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lemme cook up the numbers brb

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 6:20 AM

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but that.....you said....warp rez....now its quell speed.....???????

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:20 AM

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oh oops

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i only did 2 lines of cocaine

pine relic Jun 1, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Ok, I don't even remember I have this one, did they fix the surge?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:25 AM

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with 80% quell speed, you quell 12.31% peril per tick from 100% peril.. A tick occurs every 250ms. You need to quell 8 ticks (2 seconds) to reach 1.5% peril.
with 60% quell speed, you quell 9.57% peril per tick from 100% peril. You need to quell 10 ticks (2.5 seconds) to reach 4.2% peril. In addition, you'll need to quell three ticks to get a full charge off from 100% peril. E.g., an 80% warp res trauma will generate 20.25% peril from the charging process.

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and in the case of a 69% warp res staff, that's 21.075% peril generated from the charging process

marsh kayak Jun 1, 2023, 6:27 AM

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yo how can i optimize this

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perks/blessing wise

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:28 AM

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+unarmoured is nice to have on a trauma staff; I'd swap out specialists for something like Flak to two-shot dreg gunners with two fully-charged blasts

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I'd swap out terrifying barrage for Warp Flurry

marsh kayak Jun 1, 2023, 6:29 AM

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thanks dude

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thoughts on the base stats

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i saw 80 dmg and 80 radius and was like dang

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:29 AM

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charge rate and blast radius are the most important stats on the trauma staff because of how wide they scale and how impactful they are

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you can afford to lose a little bit of damage on the trauma staff since there are no particularly important breakpoints that you miss (assuming that you pick certain perks like +unarmoured)

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I'm not a fan of low quell speed, though there are some trauma builds that don't care about having a low quell speed (such as inner tranq warp flurry trauma spam builds)

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I personally run trauma as a support weapon and am content with it one-shotting all non-elites/specials, so I treat damage as my dumpstat and prefer 80 in everything else

marsh kayak Jun 1, 2023, 6:32 AM

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hmm ok tghx for the info

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what feats u run

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:32 AM

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+unarmoured being important to one-shot dreg bruisers (450hp), though you can reach this breakpoint if you run warp unleashed, or if your damage stat is high enough, warp battery

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I run 312233: quietude, warp unleashed, psykinetic's aura, kinetic shield, kinetic flayer, and kinetic barrage

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i have a melee-focused build though

bold flint Jun 1, 2023, 6:39 AM

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what two perks would you pick for surge staff

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 6:47 AM

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Buy?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 6:49 AM

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i mean... if ur collecting all the blessings sure i guess. its a decent blessing
but not to use

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that said. i like to run deflector on my force swords. so that leaves me one slot for slaughtere on illisi at least

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 6:49 AM

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if you have the milk coins to spare or you're already running unstable power, go for it

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i know that for the illisi, a little bit of extra power will help in one-shotting groaners with the minimum cleave damage of the special-heavy a bit easier

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 6:51 AM

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like llama said mostly for recycle bless

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finesse + first target is your main goal

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with dmg

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then the rest

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 6:52 AM

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So I just buy it and rip out the blessing?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 6:52 AM

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yes. if u got melk bucks to spare

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 6:52 AM

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if you want the blessing yes

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 6:53 AM

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I have 7k

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 6:53 AM

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if you think its not worth dont buy

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 6:53 AM

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dunno what I want now

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I just look for good melee

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and one blessing for voidstrike but I don't remember which

shadow onyx Jun 1, 2023, 6:53 AM

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slaughterer/deflection are the most used blessings on force swords

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but since nerf, deflection is not so clutchy

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and you have also many good blessings

compact cargo Jun 1, 2023, 6:56 AM

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You can still stand infront of a reviving teamate

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You'll stop most shots

steel flame Jun 1, 2023, 7:03 AM

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man i cant wait for that new FREE DLC and a brand new career we are getting in two weeks. man getting more content for this game sure is awesome

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oh wait thats not for this game its for vermintide 2

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guess fatshark be playin favorites

serene comet Jun 1, 2023, 7:09 AM

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Pretty sure the new career is in Fall and not in 2 weeks.

static mango Jun 1, 2023, 7:33 AM

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Yeah

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RGB Sienna not for a short while yet

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:14 AM

#

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only 600k

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they reduced it again lmao

vestal raven Jun 1, 2023, 8:15 AM

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reduce it to 0 nex time fs

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:17 AM

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Very true

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 8:18 AM

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it's funny because even if it failed they'd release the map

pine relic Jun 1, 2023, 8:21 AM

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yeah, like the old players would care about it.

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:21 AM

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what was the point of this event again

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like actually

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the only thing I think I noticed was that I played the new map a bunch

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like literally

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only the new map

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besides that its gameplay as usual

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 8:29 AM

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you don't like having another reskinned bit- i mean beta helmet?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:31 AM

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Idk I hopped into the modding discord

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and its literally a circlejerk safe space

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literally had a guy go "can you not bring the negativity of the main discord into here please"

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:31 AM

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I'll probably play the next map once or twice, then go back to CDDA grind. As good of a change as the new map is, i'd rather it not get stale playing solo, and then be bored out of my mind playing with friends (and suggesting we play VT2 instead Sitgryn )

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:35 AM

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its a good map

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def more fun with friends

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with randoms its bad

idle aurora Jun 1, 2023, 8:46 AM

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olive ember with randoms its bad

Literally easiest map with randos, like actually, yet to have a fail on it

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Two worst ones imo is the assassination with trains, where boss has a bunch of specialist adds, and smelter

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Real test if your team (and you) have functional brains KEKW_ogryn

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 8:49 AM

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lunar hollow there's a screenshot somewhere of hedge saying theyre close to being finished bu...

anyone have this saved?

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:50 AM

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idle aurora Two worst ones imo is the assassination with trains, where boss has a bunch of s...

I cant remember which, either Oblivium or Silo cluster start with the goddamn stairs in the beginning is really up at the top too.

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 8:51 AM

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silo cluster

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:51 AM

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Vets start blasting down below on the stairs and aggro every single ranged mob

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 8:52 AM

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the one that's in the upper district that has the middle mission event in the library thing is one of the harder ones with all the gunners imo

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the final event on that one is easier than the middle one

idle aurora Jun 1, 2023, 8:53 AM

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safe crystal I cant remember which, either Oblivium or Silo cluster start with the goddamn st...

Oh yeah, this one can be hell, as always depends on ai director

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:53 AM

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Comms plex? Its not too bad if someone is handling the ranged spawns when they come in, but its hard to coordinate with randos

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 8:53 AM

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there's that 1 room where you have to keep repairing and the room is just constantly filled with shooters and my rando vets never focus them down lol

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 8:54 AM

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safe crystal Comms plex? Its not too bad if someone is handling the ranged spawns when they c...

yeah i think that's it

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:54 AM

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I've given up on vets dealing with ranged so im just sitting near the entrance to that area and going wherever i see things with guns to engage them in melee

vestal raven Jun 1, 2023, 8:54 AM

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can demonhost even spawn on the new map

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never seen one

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 8:54 AM

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haven't seen one yet on there

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the monstrosities always seem to spawn on the stairs section for me

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:55 AM

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idle aurora Literally easiest map with randos, like actually, yet to have a fail on it

Its not about difficulty its about how annoying it is to play with randos

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especially on that map

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completely clueless

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can't push mid objective

vestal raven Jun 1, 2023, 8:55 AM

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lol^

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:55 AM

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don't push shooters

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can't do fucking scans

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just

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fucking

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infuriatingly slow

vestal raven Jun 1, 2023, 8:56 AM

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nothing worse than when people dont push shooters

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esp zealots

idle aurora Jun 1, 2023, 8:56 AM

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olive ember can't do fucking scans

On a scan side of things it feels so much better then other missions for some reason, probably because its more streamlined

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 8:57 AM

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hab dreyko is especially easy with the trauma staff as long as you don't caught out by shotgunners that come out from the closets right next to you

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it's also one of the shorter maps which might help its reputation

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:58 AM

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I mean I hate hab dreyko with randoms too

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nothing like literally having to do the objectives by myself because they don't know how to scan

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 8:59 AM

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olive ember nothing like literally having to do the objectives by myself because they don't ...

They're just letting you advance your penance, you should thank them next time thumbsup_ogryn

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 8:59 AM

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safe crystal They're just letting you advance your penance, you should thank them next time <...

is that why they keep getting downed and need me to rescue em

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 9:00 AM

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Yah, thats another penance

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See

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Perfect teammates

idle aurora Jun 1, 2023, 9:01 AM

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olive ember Its not about difficulty its about how annoying it is to play with randos

It's funny how damnation is kinda easier because the % of people who know wtf to do is bigger there, i have more frustration on malice/heresy

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:03 AM

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eh malice is so easy that i just go wte

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my standards are also lowered so I get less annoyed

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I don't touch heresy kek

lean python Jun 1, 2023, 9:04 AM

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honestly cant wait to try the new map with the lights out modifier, that mid section going thru the doors is already hectic af as is

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:05 AM

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I wanna try it out in hi5s

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 9:05 AM

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trappers might be a menace in certain sections

lean python Jun 1, 2023, 9:06 AM

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can u get a HI intns and lights out combo modifier on a map? seems like itd be nuts

idle aurora Jun 1, 2023, 9:08 AM

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lean python can u get a HI intns and lights out combo modifier on a map? seems like itd be n...

yep

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hi int + lights out/hi int + spec gauntlet waiting room Sitgryn

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^ If somehow they can add 3 modifiers in the future we can have them all together

lean python Jun 1, 2023, 9:13 AM

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Finally, a worthy challenge. T5 runs just arent that hard as long as ur not running with actual crayon eaters

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:15 AM

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who the hell plays malice

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:15 AM

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I do!

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:15 AM

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why tho

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:15 AM

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i do. when i need deathless missions and my teammates have been eating crayons for the past 5 games

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:16 AM

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why not do sedition

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:16 AM

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no one plays sedition

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i just get empty lobbies

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:16 AM

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tier 3 is ez enough that i can save my teammates almost no matter what

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:16 AM

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and the ones who do are all knife speed runners

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smh

lean python Jun 1, 2023, 9:17 AM

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Just keep up with the Mk.. is it 4 or 5 Sabre that has Defence scaling that makes u actually faster than knife users?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:18 AM

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oh well i dont usually do so on my psyker. But on my other classes

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i play psyker enough that it doesnt matter

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so what IS the point of the sabre?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 9:20 AM

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it has the streaks of a defensive weapon, with its low block cost, fast pushes, and high dodge distance

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too bad it has nothing else to offer

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yeah the MKV should be the one with the higher dodge distance

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:22 AM

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but it doesnt have infinite dodge does it...

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force swords all the way!

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 9:25 AM

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deimos is literally just duelling sword dodges but infinite yea

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but knife move tech is still faster with the benefit of being able to see

pure palm Jun 1, 2023, 9:25 AM

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force sword and seven years ago

wet belfry Jun 1, 2023, 9:25 AM

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Kinda weird to becuase the rapier in vt2 is a way stronger weapon then the dueling sword.

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The equivalent of a rager could be oneshot by the vt2 rapiers heavy attack.

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:29 AM

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raipier was the best

lean python Jun 1, 2023, 9:29 AM

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But it was also waaaaay easier to godroll/perfect stat ur rapier in VT2 compared to DT, crafting is waaay off

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:30 AM

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cuz saltz had assassin and hidden headshot bonus and rapier had built in thrust

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not to mention crits

wet belfry Jun 1, 2023, 9:30 AM

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I guess but it still shows a huge design change.

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I think the dueling sword should be more like the rapier in terms of its performance

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 9:31 AM

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we need a new difficulty lvl tbh

near wyvern Jun 1, 2023, 9:36 AM

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Tell me yhou are new to damnation without telling me you are new to damnation

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 9:38 AM

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near wyvern Tell me yhou are new to damnation without telling me you are new to damnation

what's the gear score mod you have there?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:38 AM

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u mean the levle next to all the players? thats called true level

tired tinsel Jun 1, 2023, 9:39 AM

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raven gate u mean the levle next to all the players? thats called true level

oh perfect, thanks

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:45 AM

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150hp

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 9:47 AM

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all the hp you need

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 9:49 AM

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near wyvern Tell me yhou are new to damnation without telling me you are new to damnation

yeah look at the nerd with no corruption. clearly that's the heretic.

exotic comet Jun 1, 2023, 9:53 AM

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near wyvern Tell me yhou are new to damnation without telling me you are new to damnation

Wound curio behavior

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 9:55 AM

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oof

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guna need some medicae

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 9:57 AM

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wounds can be a fun way to troll

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sometimes I'll go in with 3x wounds and peril nuke the first few enemies, even if it's just one guy

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 9:59 AM

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ill leave you dead

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not so fun now huh

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 9:59 AM

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still would be

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but i also play with a friend so not worried about that

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:01 AM

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who are you trolling with this exactly

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the poxwalkers?

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:02 AM

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yes

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:02 AM

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900 IQ move

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:04 AM

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near wyvern Tell me yhou are new to damnation without telling me you are new to damnation

they are simply using up their mathematically superior advantage in HP

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gotta utilize all the wounds you know

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:05 AM

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right?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:05 AM

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kind jay sometimes I'll go in with 3x wounds and peril nuke the first few enemies, even i...

@ember hornet did this accidentally with his voidstrike psyker

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4 times

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:06 AM

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accidentally you say

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:06 AM

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no such things as accidents

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:06 AM

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"accidently"

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:06 AM

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his "fuck NO" in the background as we were fighting random horde was a big indicator

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:07 AM

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just one fuck? when that happens to me its more like "no no no no no no fuck fuck shit fuck"

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:08 AM

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Idr sadly Josho didn't record the game

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but it was rly funny

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:08 AM

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dammit Josho. u had one job

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:08 AM

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^^

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:11 AM

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yeah i mean who uses virginstrike when chad surge exists

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:11 AM

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TRUE

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:11 AM

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i wana make a voidstrike build next. played too much with all the other staffs

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:11 AM

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kind jay yeah i mean who uses virginstrike when chad surge exists

madge

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:12 AM

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smugcat

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:12 AM

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think i'll go with warp nexus and surge as the blessings

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:12 AM

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Do you want me to burst your bubble on that build, or do you want to try it out either way?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:13 AM

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meh. either or

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

Tenor

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:13 AM

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You get to occasionally oneshot shotgunners, thats the only upside you get compared to infinite bowlingball spam

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:14 AM

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and maybe shoot a dog out of the sky

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(but only if you're a crab)

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:15 AM

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im just bored at this point. i started playing my other classes at this point. xecpt ogryn

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i do want quel peril on weakspot hit on the voidstrike but i still havent rolled it

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:18 AM

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look man I mostly blew myself up cause illisi spam and I haven't used psyker in a minute, so I kept accidentally mashing and double tapping special lol

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cause my muscle memory is mashing special for hammer

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:19 AM

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oh yeah btw @ember hornet do you use bandolier or extended mag in starship troopers

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:19 AM

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zealots trying to be psykers lol

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:19 AM

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Tbf half the psykers in this chat are trying to be zealots

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but on psyker

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:20 AM

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I use bandolier

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:20 AM

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sure, but that makes sense. they dont wana be purged

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hide in plain sight

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:21 AM

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ember hornet I use bandolier

Yeah turns out extended mag is just the same thing but better, cuz it increases the magazine size for all mags or wte

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so basically do you prefer 3 mags of 150 or 2 mags of 225

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:22 AM

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huh

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I would not think it worked like thst

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:22 AM

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it does apparently yeah

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I realized when people started talking about having like 225/450 ammo by using both bandolier and extended mag

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but yeah just checked on my operator and my grenade launcher went from 6/18 to 9/27

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:22 AM

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well alright then

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I've only gotten one chaos spawn in like 18 games

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and I wasn't on zealot when it happened

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:23 AM

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lmao I've gotten it a few

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like 2 or 3 times in all my games played

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shouldn't have been a slave to the ogryn MTX

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:25 AM

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I doubled my friends damage without slaughterer on BB so he hates BB more now

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lol

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:25 AM

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lmao

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I mean its BB

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so yeah

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:25 AM

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yeah

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just don't say its bad cause uh yeah

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Idk how pub ogryns with BB die tbh

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 AM

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I mean my ogryn would be a pub ogryn ngl

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 AM

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all your characters are pub characters

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:27 AM

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nah my psyker is pro gamer

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and I've had to carry on my zealot too

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we don't talk about my vet or ogryn tho

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 AM

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what I've learned is simply play every class like a zealot and don't play vet

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 AM

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fake news (in response to derpy)

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:28 AM

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Eh vet is just the as zealot just

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you have shit stam

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kekw

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Probably doesn't help that I can't aim

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and I use the lucius on vet tho

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if I was running some broke bullshit like ap I prob could carry on vet as well

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:29 AM

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yeah

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:29 AM

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but ogryn I just can't use lmao

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I fucking hate all their ranged options

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and idk the bull butcher is stupid but I don't enjoy using it

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:29 AM

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yeah I can only really use it for a few games and then it gets boring

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I love grenade gauntlet though

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:30 AM

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idk grenade gauntlet I just don't like

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its a lobbed shot that feels just rly not impactful idk I can't use it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:30 AM

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skissue after skissue smh

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:31 AM

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stop saying skissue

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:31 AM

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Sitgryn

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:31 AM

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thats the stupidest thing ive heard today

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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skissue

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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I forgot blooddrunk hates shortened phrases

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like

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flakiac

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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from the enlightened people that brought u flakiac

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here comes another 2iq word

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skissue

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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I mean skissue isn't even from zealots tho

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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BUy?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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pretty sure its fairly wide spread

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:32 AM

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ive only seen it there

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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🤔

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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thats an orange tier weapon. its prob approaching 3k in melk bucks
i wouldnt

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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actually idk now that I think back

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eh

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

Tenor

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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raven gate thats an orange tier weapon. its prob approaching 3k in melk bucks i wouldnt

2,3k

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and I have 7k

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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I wouldn't spend melk bucks on a dueling sword

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:33 AM

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hmm rather low for an oragne with a tier 4 and 3 blessings

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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Oh yeah btw they fixed the loadout issue with starship troopers

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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deimos is dueling sword 5.0

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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already 180k out of 600k

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kekw

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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even so. i wouldnt unless ur collecting blessings

ornate abyss Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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mmm ok

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:34 AM

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so we should have the new map today at this rate

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assuming it doesn't require a hotfix

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lul

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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probably will require a hotfix

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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watch them move the goal post cuz they are not done with the map lol

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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fucking the stage 2 tattoos required a hotfix

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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does the helmet even have skulls yet

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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raven gate watch them move the goal post cuz they are not done with the map lol

it will be doubly hilarious if that was the case cuz they were the ones who reduced the goals from 1.4 mil to 900k to now 600k

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:35 AM

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ember hornet does the helmet even have skulls yet

lmao no

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 AM

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did they give a reason for the reduction?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:36 AM

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nope but people were complaining

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i mean its better don't get me wrong but this entire "event" is kinda boring

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its literally just "yeah do what you normally do, but we are locking content behind it"

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 AM

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yeah pretty much

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 AM

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no real extra rewards or anything

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:37 AM

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ember hornet no real extra rewards or anything

wdym you don't like your re-skinned beta helmet thats not even reskinned properly

merry onyx Jun 1, 2023, 10:38 AM

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olive ember wdym you don't like your re-skinned beta helmet thats not even reskinned properl...

Getting Aquilas as a reward would be more satisfying

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The tattoos themselves are also uh AscPEPEBruhmogus The skull on the chain that's across the shoulder and back is already a tattoo

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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the real question of the day

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do I main necro or sorc

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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I'm at lv 20 right now, is Illisi + Voidstrike viable?

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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🤔

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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ember hornet do I main necro or sorc

playing blizzard game

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unbelievable

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heard sorc was broke as shit

merry onyx Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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olive ember playing blizzard game

heresy

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:40 AM

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floral relic I'm at lv 20 right now, is Illisi + Voidstrike viable?

yeah it's fine, most anything can be paired with illisi

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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floral relic I'm at lv 20 right now, is Illisi + Voidstrike viable?

everything is viable, illisi is the most broke weapon in the game and can be paired with anything, voidstrike weakest of the 4 staffs but still more good

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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ember hornet yeah it's fine, most anything can be paired with illisi

If I want to try Illisi + Voidstrike, what feats would you recommend? Since I'm too poor now any the weapon will barely have any effects

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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olive ember everything is viable, illisi is the most broke weapon in the game and can be pai...

I see, I just feel like I can't figure out how to learn the other 3 staffs

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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let a psyker psyker give you advice lol

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:41 AM

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Void is the only one I could get a hang on

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Honestly im not sure of voidstrike feats myself XD

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@spice veldt got a clue?

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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warp unleashed is always good

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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trauma is a kinda meh at lower ratings

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no i don't use the voidstrike smh

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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quietitude

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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probably 3/1/1/1/1/3?

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idk

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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ur not changing much

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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btw you can only block with sword right?

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I mean Illisi

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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just your toughness regen to whatever u prefer

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Staff can't block

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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I run 31211x I think

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:42 AM

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yeah you can't block with staff

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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yeah, only melees have a block currently

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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What about 3112?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Would warp battery or flayer be better for voidstirke

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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kinetic shield is fine, though you'll probably want to supplement yourself with a stamina curio

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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I'm at lv 20 so only 4 feats

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Uuh,voidstrike?

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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I see

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Kinetic Shield and Deflection are up to user yeah

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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yeah

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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312133 is what i run

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Also any tips on how to get better at blocking?

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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deflection is better if ur starting out

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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I'm inside China right now, so minimum ping is 100

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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herm

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would you use communion with voidstrike?

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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I think I should just practice using block more?

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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I guess you would if you used it with battery

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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there's rarely a need for blocking in this game; you'll really only need to block attacks that ignore your i-frames

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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the funny thing about blocking is you shouldn't actually be blocking a ton of stuff, but pushing instead

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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like rager combos and whatnot

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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pushing and dodging

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:44 AM

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if you don't block alot already and survive just fine then you can just use shield

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we recommend deflection for newer players cuz we prefer people who hold RMB and live than people who don't and die

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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spice veldt there's rarely a need for blocking in this game; you'll really only need to bloc...

I see, can you push with Kinetic Deflection?
Why would it be like the default feat for the 4th slot?

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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you dont even need to push in this game even

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all your attacks stagger everything

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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yeah kinetic deflection only affects your block

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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kinetic deflection basically lets you use peril instead of stamina to block

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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not with your infinite dodges especially

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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I see

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Can I block ranged gunfire?

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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light spam staggers all your hordes

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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with deflector

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

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turn ur brain off and spam left click

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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floral relic Can I block ranged gunfire?

only on Force Swords with the Deflector blessing

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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You need to bring the "deflector" blessing on the force sword

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the names kinda suck for psyker

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"Kinetic Deflection" is the feat that lets you block using peril instead of stamina

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"Deflector" is a force sword blessing that lets you block ranged bullets

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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I see, seems like a good blessing

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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olive ember the names kinda suck for psyker

skissue if ur confused by that

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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I feel like I often get trapped in range trash fire and die

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:46 AM

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I mean I'm not but i prefer making it clear to newer psykers

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it could be worse

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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cyan notch skissue if ur confused by that

bangflash

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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Like I get trapped in cross fire from mobs and die

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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Dont forget our gains confusing newer psykers as well

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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floral relic I feel like I often get trapped in range trash fire and die

use infinite dodges, slides, and F for stagger if you get caught out

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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its up to you then basically, cuz kinetic shield is basically if you brought an extra toughness curio

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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I see

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I think I'm gonna try 3112 first

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:47 AM

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kinetic deflection lets you hold rmb and block, and if you get the "deflector" blessing you can use it to block ranged fire

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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Also what works well with Kinetic Flayer?

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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safe crystal Dont forget our gains confusing newer psykers as well

we psykers dont just get buffed

WE GAIN

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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guns

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:48 AM

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Kinetic flayer is just good no matter what

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though some specific builds will prefer warp battery over flayer

kind jay Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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deflector has niche uses and it has what i feel is too tiny of a cone. like it's great when it works but a shooter standing 2 pixels to the left will blast right through

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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I mean to say I run 31121x

raven gate Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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olive ember

2 2 1 1 1 3

ember hornet Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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not 312

cyan notch Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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flayer is for lazy people

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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^^ pmuch

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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hell yeah

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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Flayer lets me skip communion on 3rd row and take CDR instead

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:49 AM

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free charge gain and maintenance, an extra bit of damage that sometimes helps on a 15 second CD

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its just free shit

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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Can Flayer replace Communion?

spice veldt Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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that's often the case yeah

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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If you are using Kinetic Barrage yes

floral relic Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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Also Flayer can proc on every instance of damage right?
So surge and fast fire rate guns benefit a lot?

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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I wouldnt take CDR over communion if you dont have KB unlocked yet though

olive ember Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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yes

safe crystal Jun 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

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kinetic barrage*