psyker-class

[leaden thunder]

flak + maniac is pretty much always a safe bet

[obtuse moth]

you know thats almost a 20% dps increase

[past brook]

that's if you include a 100% roll, which isn't possible atm
for me, my 55% charge rate is 1.73s, the max 80% charge rate roll would be 1.66s
delicious 0.07s difference

[faint vault]

That's where Nurgle lives. In those milliseconds.

https://tenor.com/view/clown-nightmare-clowns-scary-horror-gif-19977226

[past brook]

nurgle can suck my force sword

[hexed ether]

i have these 2 staffs should i transfer flurry to the 512 staff or nexus to the 481 staff? 481 has ass perks kinda unlucky

[kind jay]

transfer to the 512

actually no

wait

[north solstice]

lol

[kind jay]

yeah id go with the 512

[hexed ether]

i rlly like the stat spread on 481 but ye

[north solstice]

you can always make another later!

but yeah id go with 512

if im not mistaken surge doesnt even do enough damage to worry to much about the crit bonus

[kind jay]

it does

[north solstice]

i dont use surge for damage* 💁‍♀️

[kind jay]

full charge surge feels slow (i think thats what probably turns people off) but it puts in work

or spam quicks for stunlocks

[hexed ether]

ye flurry makes it feel great

[north solstice]

full charge surge just doesnt deal enough damage for me to feel like its worth while

its def. in need of a buff

[kind jay]

100%

[north solstice]

i really wanna use it (cuz i got really lucky) but just compared to other staves im not touching this for a while

[long wharf]

what did you roll off?

that's a very good surge staff

no reason not to use it

[river sand]

well being the surge staff is reason enough not to use it, isnt it ?

[supple skiff]

[vital compass]

would you guys buy this? Swap riposte to deflector or shred3 and block to +carapace?

or put slaughterer on this instead

[supple skiff]

first target on the second one is rough

idk how important mobility is on demios given that you can dodge for days with one, so probably stick slaughter on the first

[vital compass]

I was thinking the one in the shop looks better yea

was going to scrap the other for it's deflector and put it on the first

[supple skiff]

going to go commit heresy with this siblings

[hexed wedge]

Those blessings are a fun mix

[glossy bough]

So, how are the new force swords, after some time to build and test them?

[spice veldt]

illisi is a more mobile and faster power sword. Very nice with surge/guns or you like a pure melee build.

[obtuse moth]

deimos is so strong you can one shot mutants on damnation without empowering it

theyre both absolutely strong weapons. i wouldnt say its overpowered though since it does require a very specific build (decent roll, +25 maniac, high stacks, high peril or damge blessing) with a headshot on the second heavy to accomplish

[steel flame]

This good for Psyk?

[spice veldt]

it's ok

not something I'd use milk bottles for

[deft gorge]

any recommends for an illsi/gun build? talents etc

[fading patrol]

Buy or not? Sadly finesse is the dump stat

[olive ember]

ehh

mmm

ehhh

probably not?

[ancient gust]

Anyone please have top tier purgatus build these days. Seems to be dominant

[north solstice]

sprint efficiency

[cold geode]

this is what i use

[half crater]

observe, a godrolled staff

[sour bison]

Not lvl4

Not 80% important stats

[half crater]

well its base

[sour bison]

How is it godroll?

[half crater]

warp resistance is a dump stat

its literally unrefined

[north solstice]

you need 79% charge rate to be meta

[half crater]

thats pretty godrolled before any reblessings or refining

[north solstice]

sorry you didnt make the cut

[ember sentinel]

i need that staff

good voidstrikes continue to elude me

[stable silo]

actually quell speed is generally the dump stat now

[half crater]

no way, its for sure warp resistance so you can ramp the damage faster

[stable silo]

but u cant stay that high as long the trick is to keep firing and letting battle meditation drop you back down a bit then get more shots off on high peril

same with transfer peril to keep spamming

IMO anyway

[orchid venture]

Really all i need on a voidstrike is transfer peril, that makes it pretty good

[stable silo]

flurry and transfer peril are great blessings to run on it

turns it into a minigun bowling ball generator

[hollow current]

yeah warp flurry + quell on headshot and you can run warped unleashed while spamming still.

[stable silo]

this is what my peak performance looks like you might not like it but its mine (ignore blazing spirit ) thats a flurry now and 25% maniac to

[orchid venture]

I got to the end of a hab dreyko, and they're was a bug of infinitely spawning poxwalkers coming from the rafters.
We were actually able to beat that mission cause i was holding off the massive tide with infinite bowling balls launched at them thanks to transfer peril

[hollow current]

this is what I ran before switching to full time Trauma.

[orchid venture]

Tbh though, if the ogryn had a bull butcher they probably would've handled it better

[ember sentinel]

bull butcher do be melting hordes

[midnight bluff]

can i improve the tier of blessings

this is in my shop

[spice veldt]

unfortunately not

[midnight bluff]

that hurts

[spice veldt]

is very sad

[steel flame]

holy shit

playing psyker in 3rd person is hella fun

[golden elbow]

oooh

[steel flame]

makes the game feel totally different

[golden elbow]

thats the only way to make it more like lego starwars

[steel flame]

even shooting feels super nice with the perspectives mod

then again im only using a shredder pistol and that doesnt have sights anyway

[golden elbow]

third person is oddly satisfying when shooting, like somehow more accurate

[steel flame]

will have to try with laspistol too

if nothing else it certainly feels cooler

[golden elbow]

you ever play fortnite? you might like it

[steel flame]

absolutely not

[golden elbow]

lol

[steel flame]

over my dead body

[golden elbow]

you WILL play fortnite

they all do.

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-14818845

[olive ember]

lmao fortnite

[golden elbow]

youre right, it is Love More Arbitrary Ordinances

and before you say anything, yes, i dont know what half of that means

[golden elbow]

if i say anything else, i will be imprisoned for heresy, destined to level up to 30 only so i can waste all my money to get best in slot god rolls

[cinder obsidian]

Man, I want to like soulblaze but DoT just seems lackluster

And there’s not much to really make the stacks themselves more effective

Yeah, there’s perks to get more stacks from more places

But they usually don’t give a lot of stacks, and by the time the DoT does anything, they’ve been dead from something else for a while

[golden elbow]

PREACH

[cinder obsidian]

Psyker needs a way to actually use the stacks, not just get more

Or, if they’re just gonna give more stacks, at least give them in easier ways

Like ‘melee attacks apply stacks of soulblaze to nearby enemies’ or something

I really like the idea of a way to detonate soulblaze stacks

But that’s because they made it seem like there was a way to do that in the psyker trailer

But they were really just using the flame staff on a barrel

[golden elbow]

or like let us stack higher

[cinder obsidian]

Irrelevant

By the time you actually get that high of stacks, whatever you’re attacking is already dead

Though, really, for the love of god, let my flame staff just keep shooting. I hate the charge up mechanic for its secondary fire. So annoying having my protective wall of fire drop in the middle of being swarmed and struggling to charge it back up before getting hit

[steel flame]

anything that ramps your damage also ramps soulblaze damage

a good example is shredder with pinning and blaze away

you ramp up and your soulblaze is also doing 200% more damage

[cinder obsidian]

Again, by the time the DoT has done significant damage, the attacks used to apply it probably killed it a while ago anyway

I use exclusively the flame staff because it’s cool

[steel flame]

fair enough

[cinder obsidian]

I never think about the stacks it’s applying

Because the fire kills them fast anyway

[steel flame]

im confused. is it lackluster or good XP

[cinder obsidian]

The weapon itself is good, but feels like trash to use

I use it because it’s cool

And I’m stubborn

Soulblaze stacks as a whole, however, are just… not worth it

[spice veldt]

soulblaze is fine as long as you're using the purg

but it sucks if your only source of soulblaze generation is from feats

[cinder obsidian]

I tried going all the soulblaze feats and the purgation staff

[spice veldt]

i do agree that it could be more interesting than just blue burn

[cinder obsidian]

The feats felt like dead weight

[steel flame]

i like wrack and ruin, for getting loads of sb going, only problem is that is now competing with one of psykers best perks atm

[cinder obsidian]

I get more synergy by using the ‘random brain burst change’ feat, because at least that can proc while I’m using my fire

Like, I don’t even think the perks came up

[steel flame]

its better with not purge staff builds

[cinder obsidian]

I tried to use ‘brain burst on elites applies soulblaze to nearby enemies’

[steel flame]

you really want warp unleased with fire

[cinder obsidian]

But I couldn’t get enough brain bursts off for it to be useful

And when I did, nobody was around

But that’s the eternal psyker problem of everyone dying before brain burst even goes off

[steel flame]

i use wrack and ruin with a shredder build with kinetic flayer and kinetic barrage

can get 18 stacks of sb goin sometimes, really melts hordes

but warp unleashed has so much value right now there isnt much reason to take it even with KB

[cinder obsidian]

Again, I have a hard time actually procing wrack and ruin

Because the elites I try to use it on either die before it goes off, or aren’t in a horde

[steel flame]

like i said pinning fire+blaze away ramped to max makes even 3-6 stacks just obliterate everything

[cinder obsidian]

And even then, I could accomplish the same thing with my flame staff

[steel flame]

its good for alpha strike

or at the start of a horde you can get the elites to set everything on fire while they wade through the middle. and while you ramp your shredder stacks off the eleite as they run towards you your stacks on the horde then melt the rest of the stuff

[cinder obsidian]

Or I could just walk at them with my flame staff

And do the same thing, but better

And likely faster too

[steel flame]

well yea. there isnt any reason to use wrack with a flame staff build

other builds exist

[cinder obsidian]

The problem with soulblaze isn’t even particularly damage, it’s that it’s a DoT in a game where you want to deal with enemies as quickly as possible, not wait for them to die

[steel flame]

the dot ramps exponentially with more sb stacks on a target

[spice veldt]

well, the idea of DoTs is fine

in the case of purg, you get infinite cleave, and the true advantage is being able to spread it to every enemy so long as your line of sight is not blocked by a wall or bulwark within 16 meters

[cinder obsidian]

And how long does it take to get those stacks?

[steel flame]

with flame staff? about 5 seconds

[cinder obsidian]

I don’t think I’ve met many enemies outside mini bosses which take five seconds to kill

And the performance of soulblaze on mini bosses from my experience is… poor

[spice veldt]

being able to indiscriminately target enemies and deal with them even while they're inside a horde is quite powerful

e.g., mixed hordes with ragers and maulers mixed within

[cinder obsidian]

Yes, that’s why I use the flame staff

[spice veldt]

or crushers at the front whose carapace armor will block the cleave of any and all weapons with a few exceptions

[steel flame]

most of your damage is coming from your dot anyway

the actual damage from the staff is quite poor

[cinder obsidian]

But I’m not using the flame staff for the stacks

[steel flame]

sb stacks are doing most of the damage not warp charges

we seem to be on different pages

[cinder obsidian]

They don't really stay alive long enough for the soulblaze to do much of anything

[steel flame]

because they have like 14 stacks of sb on them

they die almost instantly

[cinder obsidian]

I've tried testing soulblaze in the meat grinder

and they get maybe one tick of soulblaze damage before they're dead

perhaps two

which sorta defeats the point of it being a DoT

[spice veldt]

that's if you're continuously using the purg

but if you've got 6+ stacks already applied onto the poxwalker, you can swap off to do something else and let it tick down

I do agree that people underestimate the direct damage dealt by purg

[cinder obsidian]

And when would you not?

[spice veldt]

crushers/bulwarks

[cinder obsidian]

it takes a decent amount of time to charge up the staff, why would you not just use it for a fraction of a second more and actually kill them

[spice veldt]

because you could spend that time doing something else that may or may not be more urgent

I'm not saying that you're going to swap off in all situations

but it does come up

[cinder obsidian]

that's what your melee is for

[spice veldt]

and that's where the fact that it's a DoT will be an advantage

whaddya mean melee

[cinder obsidian]

If you just need to smack a dude and do something else, your melee is faster in actually killing them then charging your force staff and applying only a few stacks

[spice veldt]

well, I did specifically refer to crushers/bulwarks

[cinder obsidian]

that's what brain burst is for

[spice veldt]

and there are enemies such as bombers/snipers which usually not in melee range

[cinder obsidian]

the purg staff sucks at taking them out

[spice veldt]

i think we have a misunderstanding here then

I'm just saying that there are some situations where you may have to swap off, and that's where the ticking damage from soulblaze does it work while you go do something else

and I don't think that the DoT has to necessarily be that important

[cinder obsidian]

you'd have a point if turning your back on an enemy close enough to purg staff wasn't just asking to get smacked for free

[spice veldt]

eh

dodge or wait for the stagger invuln on crushers to wear off

you can always swap to melee for a quick push and then swap to BB

since you are instantly actionable when swapping to melee

[cinder obsidian]

Or just... keep on them for the fraction of a second it would take to kill them

[spice veldt]

I'm not talking about the horde or enemies that get affected by soulblaze

I'm talking about enemies that are either outside the range of purg or don't get affected by soulblaze

e.g., situations where swapping off to purg is probably better

e.g., the aforementioned crushers/shielded bulwarks/snipers/bombers

[cinder obsidian]

It seems like you're trying to construct a possible scenario where they DoT might actually be useful

[spice veldt]

they do happen, and I'm not saying that it happens all the time

I'm just saying that they do happen

[worn ravine]

is low warp res good if youre not running quietude?

[spice veldt]

I suppose there's warp unleashed or kinetic shield, but probably not

[cinder obsidian]

because as I'm reading it: IF you are getting attacked by a horde, AND there is an elite outside of the reach of your purg staff, AND nobody on your team is helping with the elite and/or horde, AND you don't have half a second to finish off the horde, AND you don't have the time to do a melee swing or two to finish off the horde, THEN you MIGHT get some use out of the DOT while you switch focus to the elite

like, so many things have to be going wrong already for the DoT to maybe have a use case

[spice veldt]

sure?

but I'd rather have some of the damage as a DoT rather than being purely as part of the direct damage

for the rainy day situations where it is needed

and you pretty much admitted that it does help in bad situations

[cinder obsidian]

That's...

Alright, it's obvious you aren't reading what I'm saying

so no use in continuing this conversation

[olive ember]

eh

pinning fire + AB is

well its not bad i guess

just meh now

the main point of AB imo was the clear packs of shooters and stalkers etc. etc.

and I think pinnging fire with 4 stacks + warp unleashed can't even kill stalkers

or was that pinning fire + 4 stacks w/o warp unleashed

[olive ember]

It takes a bit to get used to but rn the only real reason to run quietitude is for super high peril gain staffs like trauma and maybe surge

low warp res is actually considered "meta" by some players because they are trying to stay at 80 peril as much as possible to maximize warp unleashed for +25% dmg and unstable power on their FS for +20% power

[orchid venture]

hmmm.... melk has a Deimos with Slaughterer3 on it, with 369 stats...

sadly, Damage is the lowest, but it's only 67% which isn't abysmal

I think i'll get it, if just for Slaughterer

[worldly iron]

Two Damnation Run loot and Modifications Are these weapons good?

[spice veldt]

nice perks on both; Duelling Swords are a bit meh unless you're specifically looking for mobility and block cost out of your melee weapon. I'm not sure about the blessing meta on duelling swords, but rampage is nice.
Both blessings on the Illisi are a bit meh (Blazing Spirit requires another crit blessing to work, and it's not really that good even then; Executor stacks are easily dropped and I dislike it for this reason), but replacing one of the blessings with Slaughterer should make it work pretty much as best it can. You lose some minor damage/utility from not having Deflector/Bloodthirsty/Unstable Power as your second blessing, but it's whatever.

[worldly iron]

alright and thanks

[slate oasis]

any thoughts on what I should do with the perks on this?

[cold geode]

reroll melee to mutant to one shot muties?

[autumn smelt]

maniac you mean?

[cold geode]

yea

[autumn smelt]

just loaded into a hi5 shock and was greeted with a mission failed screen

looked at my docket count and it was up by 4k

epic

[ornate hamlet]

If I'm making a dedicated Tank Psyker, which Curios should I focus on? Toughness or Health?

[olive ember]

depends on your playstyle rly

I run health, someone like Arcotash runs toughness

[steel flame]

Wish toughness curio values weren't worse than health values for REASONS BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION

[olive ember]

@ember hornet see

toughness sucks

its because toughness can regenerate while hp cannot

also theres traits which give toughness DR

[steel flame]

Like wtf does toughness cap at 17 while health caps at 21

[ember hornet]

more than 1 health is trash, everyone knows this

[ionic needle]

What do I do with this now?

Played gun for too long, forgot how to staff

[steel flame]

Kill heretics

[ember hornet]

peril block instead of DR is trash, everyone knows this

[olive ember]

lmao okay lazorr

also

[steel flame]

Wot

[ionic needle]

What's a good melee weapon for it? Deimos?

[olive ember]

that staff is a crit staff which is.... off meta

[ionic needle]

Yes, I wanted a crit staff

[olive ember]

for voidstrike you are better off running warp flurry + transfer peril

[steel flame]

#itdepends

[ember hornet]

anything except quicken....

[olive ember]

oh then by all means the staff is pretty good

[ember hornet]

trash

[olive ember]

Use the illisi or the deimos

both are good

or if you are based like me

run the obscures

😄

[steel flame]

This man be slurping the chaos coolaid

[ionic needle]

Quicken???

Why

I love KB too much

[olive ember]

he's meming

don't use quicken

pls

thx

[ember hornet]

I'm busy making fun of the game for illisi and autopistol being overpowered

and quicken makes it more funny

cause I just spam force push

with illisi

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[steel flame]

Quicken is top notch for surge and trauma and illi. Your durability and ability to spam your staff is absurd

[olive ember]

pls stop

[steel flame]

No

I shall not be silenced

[ember hornet]

it's hilarious, I can basically infinitely knock everything over and kill with illisi

[olive ember]

No one besides the fucking zealots use quicken

[steel flame]

Lol

[olive ember]

[ember hornet]

I mean am I not gonna have max peril with unstable and 6 warp charges

no

[steel flame]

Yeah........ autopistols living on borrowed time right now

[ember hornet]

cause I want to 1 shot everything

[olive ember]

unless you are playing melee only psyker

just use KB

bleh

[ember hornet]

keyboard and mouse way better I agree

[steel flame]

Why in the world would I not use quicken with trauma staff

Heresy I say

[olive ember]

also

how is it 60 degrees F

[ember hornet]

[olive ember]

at 2 AM

why is it so hot in April wtf

[steel flame]

Lol

[cold geode]

global warming

[ember hornet]

I mean April kinda hot here and there

[olive ember]

its been 90 for the past 5 days

[cyan notch]

quicken is…fine

but i dont like dropping stacks

so i aint ever using it

[steel flame]

I personally like my 14 second cool downs

[olive ember]

just run KB with aura

its a 15% CDR for you and everyone in coherency whenever you kill an elite

3 gunners and you already got 45% of your CD back

[steel flame]

If I'm running void or guns I do. Except laceration is just better

[ember hornet]

quicken is best jedi build smh

[olive ember]

oh yeah @ember hornet you run quicken or warp absorption

dude you say that but you don't even take peril blocking to block bullets like a jedi

[ember hornet]

bunch of people thinking psyker isnt a melee class

[steel flame]

I like it with surge and diemos since damage inst the goal anyway and you get the stacks back almost instantly so

You stay at full health forever and you can cc forever

[ember hornet]

I prefer to take inspiration from jar jar

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/jarrod-star-wars-meesa-jarjar-parody-gif-4841312

You talk like jar jar wasn't a sith lord smh

[ember hornet]

imagine being such a biitch that you replace jar jar with dooku as sith lord

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yy3q9f84EA

its an actual theory tho lmao

Its my head canon

[ember hornet]

jar jar was definitely the OG sith lord

wdym theory lmao

[steel flame]

Those people are idiots. Psyker can be whatever the fuck he wants to be and be good at it

[olive ember]

I mean they gotta be a good psyker first tho

most new psykers forget how fragile they are when they get hit

[steel flame]

True

[ember hornet]

simply infinitely dodge

[steel flame]

It's there for a reason xP

[olive ember]

I mean stronger or weaker than palpatine kekw

[steel flame]

Been running laspistol again as of late with illi and dear God it's fun. Especially with the 3rd person mod

[ember hornet]

why the fuck else would jar jar be by palpatines side

[cyan notch]

i remember people here were telling me no wounds was bad

[olive ember]

I mean maybe he was the evil overlord behind palpatine kekw

[steel flame]

I prefer 1 wound to account for bullshit personally,

[olive ember]

I do too

Don't listen to these

[ember hornet]

the only class I could ever possibly maybe potentially be ok with 1 wound is psyker

[olive ember]

elitists

[cyan notch]

id rather not go down

[ember hornet]

but the only reason I could see 1 wound

is that I just can't stop stroking my sword

[steel flame]

Lol

[cyan notch]

and even if i do go down im probably not gonna go down again and die before a medicae

[ember hornet]

nah dude you need HR to survive as zealot

[olive ember]

It also protects against those funny clips where you get revived into a sniper

or into a crusher overhead

so

[steel flame]

Yup

#bullshit

[fierce sinew]

just stack health in a way that leaves you at an odd total

[cyan notch]

completely not worth to spec into some niche scenario

[steel flame]

Explain yourself

[ember hornet]

let's count the number of times I've been meme revived

[cyan notch]

0

[fierce sinew]

you get most of the benefits of the wound

[ember hornet]

twice? In 750 games

[fierce sinew]

you can go down twice without dying

with zero wound curios

[steel flame]

Teammates never want to revive you hence removing and chance of a meme revive

[river sand]

with wounds you expect to die so you're not meant for damnation difficulty anyway

[cyan notch]

u sure bout this

i tested it and i died

[fierce sinew]

your first death leaves you above your wound

[steel flame]

Something smells fishy

[fierce sinew]

you obviously can't take any corruption damage

[olive ember]

It's weird cuz sometimes when you get revived you have like

a sliver of white health left

never tested it tho

[cyan notch]

thats just visual

[fierce sinew]

unless there's fractional health being tracked

[cyan notch]

u still die if u go down again

[olive ember]

all ik is that having a wound is funny

cuz you can do stupid shit twice instead of once

and its great

[cyan notch]

i blew myself up at the start of a mission twice before and got full killed

[fierce sinew]

you can't even, you wasted your first stupid shit taking a wound curio

only one left, same as before

[olive ember]

smh

[river sand]

wound gives you nothing 99% of the game (as long as you know what you do)

[steel flame]

Hmmmm. Pox walkers deal corruption so they would remove that sliver of you ever lost health to them. Sounds like it's not worth it

[olive ember]

Look at these elitists smh

[river sand]

there are tons of medi stations. if you die once just heal at the next

[olive ember]

I’d replace my wound curio with a stam but I’m too lazy kekw

Maybe when they add curios to brunt’s

[steel flame]

We need to mail more triple surprise pox bursters to this man

[autumn smelt]

its so fun when vets get downed on hi5 shock because they were alone in the middle of the room holding w and left click

[fierce sinew]

once burster stagger resistance is changed even that scenario is no longer threatening

[cyan notch]

there is no magical health pixel giving u a free down it doesnt work

[olive ember]

I mean imo the actual question is “do you take more than 1/3 hp corruption before you go down” cuz I’m assuming I’m playing with not shit tin tbh

[fierce sinew]

people die to them now because they get memed by their team

[steel flame]

True

[olive ember]

So as long as I’m getting use out of the wound it’s worth it

Optimal nah but then again

[worthy moon]

Just got to level 30 and rolled this as my first grey upgrade. Is it worth upgrading further?

[olive ember]

I think I’m good enough that the difference between 30 more hp and an extra down won’t make a difference tbh

[olive ember]

Do you have another purge staff?

[river sand]

poxers shouldnt reach you anyway. pushing them is kinda inconsistent nowasays so you can : trauma insta explode em, void full charges always knocks em back and low charge knocks em back while jumping, purg and surge knockem back easy as well

[steel flame]

At the very worst I get a blow up without immediately being put in the danger zone and that's more than enough value for me

[cyan notch]

u meam bad enough

[worthy moon]

@olive ember only from level 24

[olive ember]

Erm

Probably worth for now then

[worthy moon]

or shall I keep pulling greys

[olive ember]

But def not like a god roll

[worthy moon]

only got 100k left from leveling

[olive ember]

Stats are mid cuz burn radius is <70

Perks are bad cuz crit hit damage is useless

[worthy moon]

I will wait 4 mins for shop to update and see what is in there

[olive ember]

But warp flurry is good and it also hits the >76% burn

So it’s usable but

[worthy moon]

and then pull a few more greys

[olive ember]

I wouldn’t say it’s a god roll

[river sand]

you can use it for now but i wont upgrade it further

wow first time melk sells a curio with 3x t4 perks and they are all shit

[olive ember]

Eh I mean I’d say it’s worth upgrading to gold tbh

Fish for blessings n all that

Also it’s prob most efficient to run Damnation so I’d say he’d want atleast a half-decent gold

[steel flame]

It's not like purge is super dependent on perks anyway

They are a nice bonus but honestly you can always swap to a melee with better perks of you really want that burn to do more damage

[worthy moon]

is something like this worth upgrading at all?

sorry for 21 questions so early

[steel flame]

Do it

[cyan notch]

yea thats great

[olive ember]

It’s more to fish for nexus

Yeah damage could be higher but that’s for like a literal god roll

[steel flame]

Damage doesn't matter

Much

[worthy moon]

onto the next stage of RNG

[olive ember]

I mean it does just not that important

[cyan notch]

nah it doesnt

[worthy moon]

should I upgrade to legendary?

[olive ember]

Pray to rngesus

[twin pond]

what to replace uncanny strike with?

[steel flame]

Pray hard

[olive ember]

Prob get to legendary

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty/unstable power/deflector

[steel flame]

Unstable

[spice veldt]

I vote for unstable power

[olive ember]

Probably deflector or unstable power

I vote deflector

[twin pond]

thanks y'all

[cyan notch]

if u have the mats yea

[desert mortar]

What's a psykers best source of stagger?

[olive ember]

Surge staff kekw

[twin pond]

unstable power sounds trash, 4% power thats it?

[spice veldt]

that's fatshark description-itis

[worthy moon]

Guessing that is a GG?

[olive ember]

Psyker has stagger in pretty much everything

[naive junco]

in 20% intervals

[steel flame]

Autopistol and surge

[olive ember]

All staffs stagger psyker ability staggers

[spice veldt]

it stacks 4 times; you get a stack at 20/40/60/80% peril. You get 4% power per stack

[olive ember]

The fucking auto pistols stagger

[twin pond]

i see

[spice veldt]

trauma is a good source of stagger

[olive ember]

Every forcesword has a force push that staggers

[cyan notch]

still good u can swap barrage with flurry/nexus

[desert mortar]

Heh, thanks.

[olive ember]

Just a lot of stagger

[steel flame]

It's so stupid how much stagger the autopistol has

Once the pox burster change happens it should be able to knock them back too

[worthy moon]

So re-bless the terrifying barrage to warp nexus rank 3?

[olive ember]

Nah

Wait

[cyan notch]

yea

[olive ember]

Did we ever get any confirmation that terrifying barrage did nothing

Cuz in theory terrifying barrage is more useful than run n gun

[cyan notch]

no its shit

[olive ember]

Tf

It’s better than run n gun if it works

[cyan notch]

flametheower already suppresses

[olive ember]

The built in suppression on the purge is shit tho

[steel flame]

I mean it works but it's redundant on purge anyway

[cyan notch]

????

[olive ember]

It’s literally shit

[cyan notch]

surge psyker moment

[steel flame]

It's redundant shit

[olive ember]

Have you not been around for the past 5 months

.>

[cyan notch]

you have no idea how strong purge suppression is

[olive ember]

Choose wte both perks are kinda meh

Basically do you plan on ever lmb while sprinting

If so run n gun might be useful I guess

[steel flame]

Shit +shit = shit

[olive ember]

Even tho sliding exists

[cyan notch]

run and gun does something

[olive ember]

Terrifying barrage basically suppresses anything in a 15 m radius, this includes shit you aren’t purging and behind you etc etc

Imo way more worth than fucking lmb while sprinting

[cyan notch]

it doesnt suppress anything

[olive ember]

I especially since sliding exists

That’s why I asked if it worked in a practical situation

Bruh

[cyan notch]

only works on direct damage kills iirc

i told u it doesnt

and its shit

[olive ember]

You just told me it’s shit without saying it doesnt

Breh

Wte the tldr is both blessings or trash replace one for nexus

[worthy moon]

any good?

[olive ember]

Not bad but the first target hurts it

[spice veldt]

it's decent; workable if that's the best you have

[olive ember]

Especially for the deimos

[spice veldt]

warp res being my dump stat for the deimos

[steel flame]

Mine too

[worthy moon]

Ooo maybe this for the RNG blender?

[cyan notch]

also its not a 15m suppression

it literally says 6/7/8m suppression

[olive ember]

I got 8 m and close range kill mixed up

2 AM moment

[steel flame]

Most things can be 1 shot without diemos special anyway so there isnt much reason to spam it

[naive junco]

stat wise, which ones more worth it?

[steel flame]

Blend away

[olive ember]

🤔

@spice veldt how important are maniac breakpoints on voidstrike

[steel flame]

Stats are better on the left but overall the right is better

[naive junco]

can always reroll the left for 25 flak too. im just really lazy to reroll if its not even worth it

[spice veldt]

idk i don't use voidstrike

i'm loyal to my trauma staff except for the times I'm not

[worthy moon]

have the gods answered my prayers?

[olive ember]

Right would be better except for the fact that it has weak point damage rolled

So that’s what makes it hard to decide

Is the extra bit of damage and 1 tier higher transfer peril worth the innately worse charge rate and loss of maniac

[steel flame]

Put 25% maniac and unstable

[olive ember]

How did you get slaughterer 4 so quickly

[worthy moon]

I just got it random

[olive ember]

When did you hit 30 on psyker

[worthy moon]

on the RNG upgrade

1 hour ago

[steel flame]

Hacks and heresy

[worthy moon]

Have I been blessed? xD

[olive ember]

@wide tiger @feral verge

Look at this guy

[naive junco]

lmao.

[steel flame]

This man clearly worships tzeetch

Burn him

[olive ember]

Yeah replace executor with unstable imo and probably replace groaner for flak

[naive junco]

its like getting a day 1 power cycler on power sword

[olive ember]

I’m not familiar with deimos actually

Is t2 maniac enough or do you need t4

[steel flame]

Maniac over flack.

[olive ember]

For breakpoints n shit

I mean he already has t2 maniac

[steel flame]

Mostly for mutants

[olive ember]

So it’s prob worth getting rid of the shitty 8% on poxwalkers

depends on maniac breakpoints

Is t2 enough or do you need a t4 maniac

[cyan notch]

you can 1 shot with just 15%

just needs a little more peril etc

[worthy moon]

So change the melee to poxwalker?

[cyan notch]

flak is good to 1 body light maulers

[olive ember]

Also good against assassination targets

Since they are flak

[steel flame]

That is true

[autumn smelt]

i feel like i should probably start gambling

[steel flame]

-_- you have stronger willpower than me

[worthy moon]

So just keep going for flak damage?

[cyan notch]

activate windows

[autumn smelt]

or just wait to see whatever they decide to do with the crafting system and just be juiced for it

[autumn smelt]

wdym

[autumn smelt]

i refuse

[cyan notch]

thats what im doing

[steel flame]

I recommend getting the reroll until rarity mod so you don't die from tedium

[autumn smelt]

ill still be checking the shop when im playing and upgrading ideal rolls but other than that

i might just wait

[worthy moon]

2nd roll I got 20% flak damage

[cyan notch]

it does help if u already got the stuff u want

[olive ember]

T3 not bad

[steel flame]

Witch

[olive ember]

I mean I stop at t3 cuz I don’t use mods but

[worthy moon]

whatever is going on, I am going to keep rolling with it. Maybe I should do the lotto?

[autumn smelt]

i keep rolling till t4 manually

because im a PSYCHOPATH

[olive ember]

The reroll gets cheaper and cheaper until it’s free

That’s why people run reroll mods cuz it eventually is just 6000 rolls to get what they want or wte

[autumn smelt]

i think it costs close to like 250 till its free

[olive ember]

Nah no way it’s 250

[autumn smelt]

idk its like 90

then 50

then 30ish

i kinda stopped paying attention after 50 lol

[worthy moon]

so now just change executor for unstable power?

[steel flame]

I once needed roll for 25% flack on something and it took 1900+ rolls to get it. I refuse to take reroll mod off. That's just bullsit

[olive ember]

Yeah

I just don’t use mods and I’m too lazy to set it up for darktide so yeah

[steel flame]

I would have been there for an hour otherwise

[worthy moon]

to try and get an unstable power blessing, is it worth upgrading greens from quests to blue and see what I get?

or just wait and see what I get as I play a bit more

[olive ember]

Idr what the consensus on farming blessings was

Was it higher rating = higher rarity blessings?

[steel flame]

That diemos is great rn it will only get better when you find unstable

No rush

[autumn smelt]

i didnt know it was anything more than rng i aint gonna lie

[olive ember]

Cuz I remember there was this whole thing about replacing your first blessing with a useless t4 to try and inflate weapon rating

[worthy moon]

Maybe I will try and get a better staff now then :>

[olive ember]

Idek lmao

[steel flame]

I do not understand why we can't just pick the perk we want after rolling it till it's free.

[olive ember]

Cuz the reroll system was never meant to be free

[steel flame]

Like fuck modern game design man

[naive junco]

this is endgame. its like sitting at the slots in a casino

[olive ember]

In the original post talking about crafting way back in December

[worthy moon]

is it worth upgrading curious when I hit 30? and what should I be looking for on those? max health and toughness?

[olive ember]

Rerolls were supposed to get more expensive

[steel flame]

Hah

[autumn smelt]

[olive ember]

Probably changed it cuz backlash but originally speaking they weren’t supposed to be free

Yeah in a post introducing the crafting system way way back

Was it December or November

[olive ember]

Rly depends, some people run health some people run toughness it’s who you ask and how you play

[steel flame]

Thank God they backed up on that

Fuck slot machines

[olive ember]

Post from 11/25

[steel flame]

Wow. That is some of the most bullshit pr speak I have ever heard

I have an extreme urge to punch whoever wrote that

[river sand]

imagine pushing the roll till t4 maniac dmg and the mods gives you the attempted in 476 rolls ... with increasing cost ....

[olive ember]

but yeah i've seen people ask why they don't let you choose a perk when its free and then they assume stuff like "oh well clearly its for farming player retention"

the good news is "congrats, its probably just an oversight when they decided to remake crafting system"

the bad new is "the old system that this reroll thing came from was much worse"

[steel flame]

So so so much worse

[river sand]

its a fat shark thing, in vt2 you rerolled 2 perks at once and were hoping for the right combination ...

[steel flame]

Imagine having to roll power cycler or t4 slaughter.....multiple times. I shudder at the thought

[olive ember]

I wasn't even a fan of the VT crafting system

a bunch of rng, if you wanted to actually get a red weapon you would have to farm for vaults which required grims which I personally hated

[cyan notch]

it didnt require grims

[olive ember]

I mean no

but then you have like a 1% drop chance?

[steel flame]

I didn't care for reds much

[olive ember]

idr the actual rates but yeah

[cyan notch]

its not a 1%

[olive ember]

pretty sure it was

[steel flame]

They added barely anything

[cyan notch]

nope

[steel flame]

To the weapon

The only good thing was that perks could roll the highest value. The matters to like none of the weapns

[worthy moon]

Is it worth upgrading the staff on the left over the right?

[olive ember]

The big thing VT2 crafting had over Darktide crafting is that you basically couldn't brick a weapon

[worthy moon]

or is the 4% cloud better?

[olive ember]

I'd say upgrade it just to see what blessings you get

[ionic needle]

Burn won't make a difference above 76 right?

[olive ember]

I was looking at peasant's instead of commoner's

[olive ember]

won't make a difference that matters

[cyan notch]

the stuff in red doesnt have enough sample size

[olive ember]

fair I suppose

[cyan notch]

since u are never gonna just get peasants unless u speedrun glitch or something

[worthy moon]

Errrm

xD

[ionic needle]

Warp nexus is awesome

[olive ember]

Either way the one on the left is worth upgrading to see what blessings they get. If you get either warp flurry or warp nexus as one of the two blessings then that staff is better since you can replace the other blessings. Another thing is you might be able to get better perks on the staff (flak/maniac/crit chance)

worth trying to upgrade, but the game can just as easily brick your staff so yeah

[ionic needle]

Roll carapace -> crit and run n' gun -> warp flurry and that staff is insane

[worthy moon]

I am also really sorry for asking so many questions, I just got to 30 and I am loving the game. I really appreciate all of your help 🙂

[cyan notch]

thats really really good

[olive ember]

oh yeah um replace run n gun with flurry, replace carapace with flak

and yeah

[ionic needle]

Not sure about the carapace -> crit roll but yeah

[olive ember]

thats rly good

for purge staff specifically even tho its a crit staff you want +flak

cuz of the stupid nerfs to global burn dmg to flak

it helps hit flak stalker/bruiser breakpoints when using something like AB (I'm assuming they are using the typical purge + AB build)

[worthy moon]

So change the 20% carapace/armored to flack damage?

[cyan notch]

yea

carapace is useless

[olive ember]

Burn damage is rly bad against carapace

[worthy moon]

The finished product

[olive ember]

in fact, the whole reason why they nerfed burn dot against flak from 200% -> 100% was because a certain class had the ability to downgrade Carapace into Flak

[olive ember]

yeah that will be BiS for a long long while, unless you somehow get an even better like 380 god roll staff

[worthy moon]

Not bad for just hit level 30 😄 thank you all for your advice 🙂 just need a nice unstable power for the sword

[olive ember]

prob replace executor with unstable power when you find it and yeah

and if you do choose to download mod and use the reroll perk mod then get a t4 flak dmg on your purge staff + a t4 warp flurry when you get that

and etc. etc. but yeah at this point its all just min maxing

[worthy moon]

Is it worth upgrading curios to yellow?

[cyan notch]

good ones yea

otherwise theyre really expensive to do so

[olive ember]

they're rly expensive, lots of rng, even easier to brick

basically you have 1 main attribute for a curio, where its already super rare to get a max roll (+21% hp or +17% toughness or even +3 stamina) and then a yellow curio has 3 perks

of which you can only choose to change one

[worthy moon]

more RNG 😮

[olive ember]

its just layers upon layers upon layers of rng. You can't even buy via brunt's you gotta actually check the store which cycles on an hourly basis (the old fashioned way)

basically min max BS

[worthy moon]

I got this is it worth having a go on that?

[olive ember]

thats not bad tbh

[olive ember]

Its dumb but at this point if you plan on only using purge psyker then yeah curios would be the next point of min maxing

[worthy moon]

those are the only 2 that have max health

[olive ember]

its really up to you tbh

for perks you want

[cyan notch]

i wouldnt upgrade the 18% health

[olive ember]

sniper resist > gunner resist > hp/toughness/ability regen/stamina regen > everything else

unless I'm missing something

but basically sniper resist is rly useful given how squishy psyker is. With enough sniper resist they only do like 1/3 of your hp? Thats compared to normally where they can basically do 90% in a shot iirc

gunner is kinda meh but its something

[cyan notch]

yea ability regen is in everything else tier

[olive ember]

is it? some people rly like stacking ability regen apparently

I remember asking before and some people swear by it

[cyan notch]

12% if u stack everything

[olive ember]

eh wte

[cyan notch]

thats like 3s

your 30s cd is now 27s woohoo

[steel flame]

It's.....ok ability Regen also got shadow nerfed when quicken was buffed.

[olive ember]

you talk like people actually run quicken tho

kekw

[steel flame]

So it will only take 1 second off a 4 charge ult

[olive ember]

hp/toughness is just padding your stats a bit to give you a bit more survivability

stamina regen is just decent for people who use stamina alot

and then everything else is kinda useless

except for ordo dockets

[worthy moon]

Managed to get this and now I am out of materials. They are a lot more!

[olive ember]

some people apparently swear by ordo dockets

not bad

your third perk you can basically reroll so that curio is guaranteed to not be useless

[worthy moon]

I just love purg staff so going to build around that until I got some nice gear in every slot 🙂

I will do the same when leveling up another class and just save everything for level 30. I doubt I will get as lucky this time xD

[cyan notch]

its great id upgrade to orange

if u compare 3s off ur ult compared to 15% toughness or 15% health or 60% sniper resist

its pretty f tier

[olive ember]

tru tru

also stuff like grim resist is a trap. Besides BoN grims are probably the main source of corruption

but they actually do a set amount of hp

so if you are stacking grim resist you are prob better off just stacking hp

as for bombers and flamer resist. They don't work.

Or more specifically, the only attack where the resist actually works is the kick they do if you get too close to them

and then everything else is a meme like more exp which is literally useless or more curio chance etc. etc.

[naive junco]

4% more plasteel

[olive ember]

Lmao I wish

[worthy moon]

What sort of items should I be fishing for from the weekly rewards vendor?

is it for t4 perks etc?

[cyan notch]

blessings yea

or high stat items

[river sand]

never seen a usable high base stat item at melks. but here and there you get some t4 blessings

[near wyvern]

I got my Illisi from Melk the day the patch did but other than that yeah never seen a 370+ on there

And I have been checking the shop every day since it was released

[cyan notch]

f tier distributions or f tier weapons tho

[near wyvern]

Good ol'Melk

[radiant lance]

Why doesn't Melk just give good things

Why can't even one facet of this game be generous

[near wyvern]

Padding player in-game time

Many players play until they get way they want and then quit. By making it RNG you lure them to come back regularly to try their luck in case they get what they want. Not disclosing the chances of getting that item means they also can't do "sheiiiiit that's such a low chance byeeeeee"

[cyan portal]

except 3s off you ult will save your life occasionally

[cyan notch]

absolutely not

nowhere near as frequently as other things in that slot

[cyan portal]

Guess it depends how you play, i always dodge snipers but occasionally blow my head up

[near wyvern]

Get the mod that allows you to reposition hud elements. Raise the peril counter up a bit closer to your crowshairs. Helped me a ton.

[cold geode]

or get crosshair hud

[cyan portal]

i have, it is most often to a bb triggering pop at 97%

[near wyvern]

?? You can start a BB cast at 97 and pop it at 100 safely

[cyan portal]

yeah, apparently not always..

[ionic needle]

If your target dies right at the start of the charge and you start charging something behind it that might happen

[spice veldt]

I've died to a 97% before

[near wyvern]

It is always. What you are experiencing is you start a cast at 97 but the target immediately dies so at 98 or 99 it starts a cast on another nearby enemy without you noticing which is death.

When you start a cast at 97 you need to immediately look somewhere where there are no enemies (floor, roof, walls, above enemies etc.) to make sure if your target dies it doesn't start a new one on another target.

[spice veldt]

and in my experience, it's been safe for a target to die and to restart my cast on a new enemy as long at 100% as I held down LMB

[cyan moth]

Sleeping on the force staff I see

[cyan portal]

https://youtu.be/sm6TAaxOB4Y?t=950 for some reason it jumps even though it was just pressing lmb. lag or something i guess

[digital loom]

you know

[worthy moon]

anyone know a good guide to downloading mods for darktide?

[digital loom]

i'm starting to get the idea

that you can steal another psyker's blaze stacks with wildfire

[cyan portal]

scoreboard just counts it as whoever applied first stack, so kinda yeah

[ionic needle]

That's it, getting the exact peril mod

[digital loom]

well i kill things on fire

then other things set on fire

[ionic needle]

Kind of annoying that you have two peril counters though

[digital loom]

i think purg/trauma combo is the way to go

because the purg staff makes the stacks and the trauma can spread it around fast

i've been using this and it's surprisingly fun

[cyan portal]

I do? do you mean the toughness number?

[ionic needle]

Oh that's the toughness? They were lining up at some point and I mistook them haha

[digital loom]

these two trauma staff look different

[ornate hamlet]

Made in different Atoman sweatshops

[cold geode]

you mean made on atoma? the whole hive city is a sweat shop

[ionic needle]

Is wildfire even worth it compared to warp battery?

[cyan portal]

So, testing in the meatgrinder with the 2 decimals turned on. if you're at 97.04% peril you will blow up from bb.

[near wyvern]

You are using TruePeril. That's your reason. The regular HUD always rounds up, TruePeril with decimals rounds according to the general rounding rules so that 97.0% you saw was actually something like 97.001 to 97.049% which the regular HUD would have indicated as 98%.

I don't use TruePeril since the only info I need is:

• am I at 80+ peril (Warp Nexus 4 stack)
• am I at 97 peril (still safe to BB)
• am I at 100 peril or not (below 100 safe to let go of staff casts)

I don't do anything with the floating decimals, all I need is to now if I am in danger or not, for which the default peril meter does a fine job.

If you use TruePeril the 97 becomes 96 for you, but I am too used to the 97 and don't need that accurate info from my peril.

[near wyvern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11cod2i/guide_how_to_install_mods_in_darktide_w_gifs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[clear mason]

yo what's with Saturdays and groups of 3 x psyker with staffs trying to cheese damnation. stop it witch scum.

[digital loom]

thats just euro hours

western hours get vet spam

europe hours get psyker spam

[clear mason]

oh

[digital loom]

russians really like vet too

[magic burrow]

euro hours is when hogwarts finest wake up

[clear mason]

well i play in pretty good stretches of time.. didn't think the servers would be that diverse(apart of the obvious class choice) my gut told me they were all north American's.. but i guess they picked up bad habits

i see less and less vets honestly and the ones i do play with don't bolt or push f

[stone pulsar]

melk pls. stop giving me guns.

[grand arrow]

gunmancer soon

[lilac raft]

hey I have issue witj weapons name and shit my brain can't work. Is there someone that can explain to me the differences between the Forces swords?

[grand arrow]

deimos - dueling sword
illisi - power sword
obscurus - power/dueling hybrid

deimos and obscurus are more oriented towards single target, while illisi is very good all-rounder and can do both single target and hordes decently, similar to vet power sword since the special attack doesnt lock you in place

[cyan notch]

obscurus is absolutely not a power sword lmao

[grand arrow]

it has vanguard heavies

but assassin lights

[grand arrow]

i was alluding to the moveset, not the efficacy

[cyan notch]

the movesets are nothing alike

[grand arrow]

cap

[cyan notch]

lol

[spice veldt]

they do share the same 1st light and 2nd heavy (well, pre-patch obscurus' 2nd heavy), with the 3rd light being the deimos' 1st light

[cyan notch]

hes talking about powersword vs obscurus moveset

which is just absurd

[spice veldt]

oh

I also wish that the obscurus had a true horizontal

[lilac raft]

too sad I never seen a illisi D:

[cloud sequoia]

Buy it

[near wyvern]

Yeah Illisi is great even with bad perks and blessings

[cold geode]

damnit its nearly 6 am, why is no one in damnation

[ornate hamlet]

yeah haha why

The only one I could find was sniper ventilation with a zealot that I think was multitasking because I joined on him AFK at the start and then a mutant grabbed me while he stared blankly at a wall

But he wasn't pushing and just kept dumping the shredder on ranged enemies

I was like "nah, I don't have the energy to do a two-player damnation like this" and now I'm playing DDO because even heresy is dead and I don't feel like joining a voice chat

Which is a fun game with the DUNGEONCRAWL code still being redeemable until April 23rd or sometime around that for most of the quest packs the game has

Because it's otherwise a pretty repetitive game and no regional pricing like Steam

[ionic needle]

Trying out trauma staff, feels like I kind of need inner tranquility?

[faint vault]

Dungeons and Dragons Online?

[ornate hamlet]

Yep

[near wyvern]

Only if you have Flurry. Otherwise Quell cancelling and pumping 80-100 with Warp Unleashed will do, not to talk about the added BB breakpoints it gives.

[faint vault]

What a blast from the past. Had no idea that game was still around. Played it to death back in the mid 2000s.

[radiant lance]

Does anyone here use Quicken and can explain to me why?

[leaden thunder]

double warp charge gen is really nice

also it lets you have some sort of crowd control up at all times

it is worse then the other two

but it's not bad imo

[near wyvern]

I use it on Surge build and on my infantry lasun psyker loadouts.

Surge pairing it with Kinetic Flayer you have an ult always ready to go for additional CC and instant quelling when you need it.

For lasgun loadouts, it's extremely important to keep up 5 or 6 stacks at all times so you can one shot 2/3 of ranged trash (MG IV) or 3/3 ranged trash (MG Ia) with headshots at a much faster rate than XII. Basically Warp Unleashed + 6 stacks makes your Ia a faster firing and more stabile XII. Psychic Communion + Quicken means you are always at 5/6 stacks without having to work for it because of the double stacks. And to start the match or after ult, you only need 3 BB to top it up, which you can do without quelling.

[ionic needle]

I am running flurry, what would an alternative be there?

[near wyvern]

Blazing Spirit 3 with Warp Nexus 4. Less DPS if purely racing but more DPS when you don't actively gimp your Zealots and Ogryns. Huge burst capability with Battery AB.

[ionic needle]

I'm running flurry + the brittleness one, so I've speced into communion, 6 stacks and quicken to try and keep up the CC as much as possible while still doing decent damage

[near wyvern]

It's a valid choice

[ionic needle]

That's the idea at least, but managing peril without inner tranquility on it felt like such a hassle

Maybe I'll get used to it

[leaden thunder]

yeah truama is the only staff I still blow my self up with sometimes

[ionic needle]

I remember something about non-force weapons having faster passive quelling? Did I dream it?

Thinking about dropping illisi for mk v combat axe if that's the case

[near wyvern]

The thing with flurry on trauma is that you must run inner tranq to get the benfits of it, obviously pairing it with battery. The best ult choice with it is KB since you can use that without loosing flurry and stacks to keep the flurry going.

Trauma secondary cast had the largest charge cost of all staves. Since charging peril cost is a flat peril/second, the faster you charge the less peril you need to spend.

[ionic needle]

PW is always castable while channeling staffs no? That's not unique to running KB

[near wyvern]

It went back and fort for a few patches but non-force weapons currently passive quell as fast as a 80% quell speed roll staff.

For the actual values and more, checkout the Psyker Atheneum in the pinned messages.

[ionic needle]

But yeah, dropping stacks can hurt

Trauma is fun though, I managed to kill like six ragers at once earlier haha

[near wyvern]

You can always cast it regardless of what you are doing as long as you have control of your character. Aiming down sights, quelling, firing a weapon, charging a cast, casting, whatever.

It will always go off but the hand animation only plays if you are not doing anything else at the same time.

[ionic needle]

Yeah that's what I figured

[summer prairie]

not while ressing

[near wyvern]

You don't have control of character when ressing

[summer prairie]

well in a sense

[near wyvern]

It's a pure animation lock. Force Sword special is a soft animation lock. Still allows you to move a bit.

Thus you still have some control over your character

[ionic needle]

Oh and on ressing: Will deflector block bullets while I ress if I have my FS out when I start channeling? I tried finding this in the guide you mentioned

[cyan notch]

no

[ionic needle]

That sucks

[cyan notch]

it used to but it got removed

[ionic needle]

Guess I'm dropping deflector then

[near wyvern]

Deflector is a weird blessing. It can be extremely powerful when used correctly but it's also a noob trap. On top of that the block reduction from the blessing is bugged so Deflector 1 and Deflector 4 are currently identical.

The correct use for deflector is to cover a res under ranged fire. That is, you go and block shots in front of the downed player while another player secures getting them up.

Other than that the uses for deflector are basically just a bandaid solution for poor positioning or bad dodge skills. You have infinite dodges on the force swords so blocking shots just for yourself, as bad as it sounds, is a skill issue. Moreover the cone on the deflector is super low while the dodge slide makes you immune to ranged 360.

It's nice for blocking that occasional shotgunner shot but that should be an indication that your awareness / positioning was poor, not that the blessing is good.

The noob trap part of it is that people just start blocking shots and make a clown out of themselves when they could just hop behind the box next to them and start clearing the ranged.

[ionic needle]

Yeah I find myself never using it for blocking shots since I started learning how to slide and dodge properly, the only reason I kept it around was for safely getting downed teammates up while being shot at

[summer prairie]

the block reduction should work for ranged

[cyan portal]

With a +3 stam you can tank a lot of ranged fire. If they're shooting harmlessly at you they aren't shooting your teammates. So it lets you function somewhat as a ranged tank, which is pretty handy if you're trying to carry. You could avoid being shot at with los, but then that pressure goes onto your team, who might be worse at dealing with it.

[summer prairie]

you should be dodging while blocking, no point intentionally taking the shots unless you really want the peril. Lets you move around faster too. I don't think it's a bandaid solution, it's just another tool. Dodging doesn't make you immune to ranged and "better" positioning in many cases just means less aggressive play

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector doesn't work for revives

It's interrupted only by health damage, so a player can eat their entire toughness in ranged attacks before being interrupted

[cyan portal]

Yup, dodging a sliding means you can tank many more. Often I'll over extend on purpose into a ton of entrenched shooters and purg them up, then switch to fs and deflect/dodge while slaughterer ticks up and they all die.

[radiant lance]

Interesting, why with Surge specifically?

[near wyvern]

With purge and (spirit nexus) trauma I use AB for the obvious synergies, with Void I use KB since Bulwakrs and Crushers are the thing it struggles most with and KB makes a quick work of those.

You wouldn't also use it with Flurry Trauma because you need to keep your stacks up for inner tranq to get the full benefit of flurry, so you would go KB there as well.

Why not KB/AB on Surge is because if I go surge I pick it for the CC. KB is single target DPS/CC which takes away from the time I could multi target CC with surge. AB is horde clear which I don't need cause I would have gone with Purge, Void or Trauma in the first place. Illisi is all the horde clear you need with Surge.

[faint vault]

What do you run for trauma with flurry? 3-2-1-1-1-3?

[near wyvern]

Absolutely correct.

[faint vault]

Nice.

Gonna try it out, been running without inner tranq, and absolutely do not like it.

Do you run quicken with your surge build?

[near wyvern]

Flurry trauma is the only build currently where you should run inner tranq over warp unleashed. On every other build you always go warp unleashed.

[faint vault]

Yeah

[near wyvern]

Yes

[dire coral]

on a voidstrike, if ya had a choise between surge or sustained fire T4, which one?

idk how SF scales on VS

[vestal raven]

what makes it a good pairing

never really tried quicken

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

In short double stacks for KF procs and BB finishes, you have always ult up for extra CC and more surging

[near wyvern]

Shelve it and wait for flurry peril one

[dire coral]

already have it

But i was wondering if it was worth it, outside peril

that's not optional

[onyx frigate]

How do I turn off the peril sound effects?

I can't find it in the settings

Is it this one?

I was under the impression it would just be hud related because... of the other hud options but I guess it has to be this one?

[leaden thunder]

I think it should be both

[onyx frigate]

That's odd

[leaden thunder]

might go into the psyk and test it t make sure

[onyx frigate]

I'll try it

Yeah, it has to be both

Because I can't hear the audio cue of reaching the peril cap and I think I'm seeing a bit less hud related stuff

Oddly enough, even though the slider is at 0, you can still see a little bit of visual effects on the hud

Anyway, this solves my issue, thanks

You'd think they'd just make it two separate sliders and put each in video and audio separately, however...

[unreal dust]

Rolled a new 379 Deimos from Brunt
Decent base stats
Consecrate is go!
.... ..... cries

What absolute garbage

[radiant lance]

Interesting, I actually use KB with Purge to make up for its lack of range and ability to CC/Kill armored elites.

Thank you for your thoughts, I'll give Quicken another go.

[unreal dust]

AB will kill everything short of a crusher or monstrosity. For Crushers, I swap to Force Sword and play knockdown jockey for the rest of the team. Or sneak in a few stabs of my own.

[river sand]

not anymore, the flak modifier nerf hit it hard

[unreal dust]

Is that something across the board with Soulblaze?

goes hunting for patch notes

[river sand]

yeah all burn effects do 50% dmg compared to before the patch to flak

[unreal dust]

I guess I didn't really notice it much. I usually run 25% vs Flak on my Purg staff

[leaden thunder]

you mean they do

the same damage as they do to everything else

instead of double damage

ab still kills all shooters and stalkers with like any sort of damage boost

[radiant lance]

Does AB kill Bulwarks?

And like I said, also to make up for the lack of ranged M1 on the Purg.

[leaden thunder]

wasn't effected vs bulwarks really

only flak damage was nerfed(which granted is most enemies)

[unreal dust]

The trick is this:
Charge up to medium or full on Purgatus
Let the Bulwarks get in range
Pop CD to break the guard
Hose them down while their shield is out of position
they die

[radiant lance]

Will give it a shot.

[unreal dust]

ymmv if you have an idiot Zealot who is keeping their guard up by beating on the shield rather than baiting a swing

[radiant lance]

Didn't mean in context of the nerf, just generally.

[unreal dust]

Also AB + Wildfire is a surprising amount of hotness. I used to love Warp Battery for just clearing massive Poxwalker packs, but Wildfire is a gift that keeps giving

(assuming you run Purg. Warp Battery + AB for instant horde clear is still super viable on Surge Staff)

[steel flame]

Fire is terrible on ogryns in general

It can deal with bulwarks eventually

But you'd be better off whipping out bb

[golden elbow]

is blazing spirit necessary for that

[steel flame]

The weapon blessing?

[golden elbow]

yeah

[unreal dust]

The problem with BB is opportunity cost. If you don't run Wrack and Ruin, you're probably going to get overwhelmed by all the other mobs not getting targetted.

[radiant lance]

I found Wildfire barely does anything to be honest. Not meaning to discount your opinion, but did you test it in Psyk?
I'm also asking because it is currently bugged.

Here's the bug thread:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wildfire-not-stacking-past-4/77402/3

[steel flame]

Personally When I run fire I typically ignore ogryns entirely unless they are an immediate threat and just kill everything around them

[radiant lance]

Eh, I have 3 teammates to hold the horde while I (slide back and) pop the Ogryns 😛

[steel flame]

Talking about fire staff

[golden elbow]

MAXIMIZE THE BLAZE sounds like a fun build to try out

[unreal dust]

I played with it on and off. It didn't really show a big DPS increase initially. Then I went to post findings here on the discord--when I noticed the unarmoured horde pack was -still- burning and dying 5 minutes later. Wildfire shines best in Damnation Hi-intensity and Hi-Shock. Where the mob density reaches absurd levels. Because the stacks 'spread' it means a single maintained column of flame will catch that stragglers that spill around the horde getting pushed back. It also boosts the Kill efficiency of the entire team by softening things up.

If you run with any Ogryn ever, who generally has a ton of knockdown and low DPS, its becomes super-efficient since he will cause the stacks to keep spreading on their own.

[radiant lance]

You know Wildfire can't push a target past 4 stacks though, right?

[unreal dust]

Wildfire gets it to 4 stacks. Your flame staff pushes it higher.

[steel flame]

4 stacks is plenty. Ab is also 4 stacks without battery

[unreal dust]

This is important when dealing with an incoming horde. As only 6 stacks are required to take Poxwalkers from full to dead (as tested with AB+Battery)

[radiant lance]

Hmm, I'll do some more testing.

[unreal dust]

Take it into the field

[steel flame]

And you can ult on this 4 stacks to make them 8 if you really want

[unreal dust]

You'll notice Ragers get a bit closer

[radiant lance]

I did, didn't really notice a difference

[unreal dust]

But the horde is much more manageable

[radiant lance]

It's hard to tell with everything burning lol

If it's making a difference, that is

[unreal dust]

Yeah. Run scoreboard mod if you can. You'll be surprised at final DPS/kill counts

A lot of weapons and swings will get super-dense horde near death. Your flames do the rest.

[radiant lance]

Mhm, I'm just wondering if that's because of Wildfire or just you burning things manually with your staff

[unreal dust]

And because the flames self-sustain, you can juggle multiple fronts

[radiant lance]

I'll take your word on it 🙂

[unreal dust]

The biggest difference is when the horde starts to stagger and pathing forces them to spread

Without Wildfire, you have to regularly sweep

With Wildfire? You can just focus the door

And with Wild Flurry, there's almost no DPS loss when charging up the next M2

Because they die, spread the stacks, max out the incomers to 4, then your flame staff (which should be critting at high peril) rockets them up to another 14 stacks on top of that. Repeat.

[golden elbow]

what kind of boosts can you add to soulblaze, i see theres warp unleashed for 25%

[unreal dust]

Warp Nexus on Purg Staff.

Technically ... you can also run Power on Kill for 2s on your melee weapon. For whatever reason, things dying to fire will proc this and also affect the damage you do? Its weird. I don't fiddle with it much

IE: Light everything on fire, swap to melee when you can't cast anymore, watch the stacks tick up and also burn hotter?

Sadly SoulBlaze on Deimos FS isn't very hotness

Since the thing tends to overkill all the time

[river sand]

soublaze on force sword is more of a fun build anyway. in almost every scenario possible you're better with slaughterer + unstable/deflector/uncanny

2 things that are considered meme builds but are actually amazingly good are voidstrike nexus/surge and trauma nexus/blazing

did some math, assuming the second shots hits as well surge/nexus out-dpses transfer/flurry even if you dont animation cancel on the first 8 shots, and with animation cancel you need at least 20 shots till flurry gets better

[ornate hamlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091034829254049812/1092513902664892486/flabbergasted.gif?width=441&height=676

[broken pollen]

first hi int shock troup gauntlet with my psyker character, at least i got through it lmao

[tired estuary]

gj