#psyker-class

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feral verge
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best in slot with warp flurry

reef cave
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this is for the people that think surge staff is just utility, friggin nerds

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pearl lion
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Melky and his complete lack of force weapons

north cradle
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Corruption Resistance no longer works on Grimoires, yeh?

pearl lion
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cmon my guy

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There's always been corruption resistance (Grimoires). Did reg resist also work in the past?

north cradle
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Ya

crystal jolt
north cradle
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In fact, Grimoire Resistance used to do next to nothing

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It just increased the time between each corruption tick

pearl lion
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oof

spice veldt
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just testing in the psykanium, corruption resist at the very least affects the initial corruption that you gain from grimoires

north cradle
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The Man-Emperor of Mankind blessed me with this Curio and I was just thinking to replace Corruption Resistance with Toughness Regen

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ornate hamlet
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great idea

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could also use health if you got a good regen, like quietitude

north cradle
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I do use Quietitude, but I already have three 20% Health curios

kindred sand
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Which are the bis blessings for MKV Blaze Force Sword?

spice veldt
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slaughterer and unstable power/bloodthirsty probably

north cradle
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I was thinking about that. Bloodthirsty on Illisi would be insane

spice veldt
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though the special has a reduced crit multiplier, and further cleave targets have a reduced crit multiplier

topaz sable
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Anyone have a picture of the trauma soulzblaze build feats?

north cradle
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Drat

topaz sable
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blazing spirit 3/nexus 4 and pray for crits?

spice veldt
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for normal attacks beyond the first target, the crit multiplier at 80% finesse is along the lines of 1.15x instead of the full 2.3x

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not negligible, but I'd prefer Unstable since I'm not always using the special

onyx sentinel
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What's the general consensus on trauma staff now with the peril drain buffs?

topaz sable
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good before, better after I'd think

spice veldt
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I think it's pretty swell

ruby plover
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quietude scales better with toughness doe

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oh i didnt scroll

near wyvern
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trauma is one of the better performing staves with purge now

feral verge
north cradle
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Purge Purgatus

reef cave
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purgatus is 100% a cop out for a simple easy build, like so many other builds do way more and are more versatile, but harder to put together

potent glade
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what are the best perks to have on purgatus staff

feral verge
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nah i think purga is tied with trauma for most versatile

north cradle
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I like my Deimos/Voidstrike setup

feral verge
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with purga + deimos oyu can do everything

feral verge
ruby plover
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yall use staves?

feral verge
ruby plover
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erm i stay strapped

north cradle
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I kept getting told I don't know what I'm doing when I'm using my MG XII on my Psyker

ruby plover
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thats a lil cursed

rare furnace
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Psyker gets Ogryn Machine gun

near wyvern
rare furnace
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Hahah you got a like 👍🏻 now

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@near wyvern did they forgot to put limit on the doge?

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Looks@funny

near wyvern
spring fern
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lol

viral solstice
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there is no limit on doge

near wyvern
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The doge is unlimited

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Can't see the tail from here

gloomy gulch
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lol just upgraded this 😄

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tired jackal
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just put slaugt on mine about the same stats too, taking a break then gonna KEK the game

gloomy gulch
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not to decide on maniac or flak hmm

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probably flak

tired jackal
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i think you want flak maniac so preference then

gloomy gulch
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yeah you might be right on that one after some testing in the meatgrinder

feral verge
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@near wyvern

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you use wounds?!

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unfollowed. unsubbed. blocked

viral solstice
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3 wounds, make ur healthbar a ruler

cyan notch
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pretty cool

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restive slate
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How viable is Blazing Spirit Voidstrike with Wildfire feat?

lunar hollow
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sniper patrol vent is fucking B O N K E R S

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dusky grail
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ay

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thats me

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lusstig

lunar hollow
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damn

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the sniper placement is fuckin beautiful

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congalines of em

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or that one spot at the dropdown where they just formed a wall

dusky grail
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yeah I shot like 3 that were standing in eachother then

lunar hollow
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i thought sniper patrol would be like 3-4 the first time i played it

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boy how wrong i was

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i tried it on low int and there were still like 10 of them per patrol

dusky grail
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lucky they arent very smart

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although if you let them spread out it gets fucked

restive slate
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Though I am slightly disappointed as I was expecting randomized sniper nests guarding certain points in the fog

lunar hollow
dusky grail
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same here

restive slate
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Instead we get a dozen snipers charging our Operatives haha

dusky grail
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I watched him run right into it lmao

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focused on not getting sniped

lunar hollow
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the funny part was there was one behind us at one point that didnt walk forward until the patrol started

lunar hollow
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and then it just left

dusky grail
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yeah lucky I got shot in the side of the head as I watched the demonhost go after the zealot

restive slate
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I think if there's noone around and noone else damaged it the Daemonhost may just leave after 1 kill

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...or its randomized, which I like less

dusky grail
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was the bio optic targeting helping you out?

lunar hollow
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yes

dusky grail
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totally the way on that mode

wet belfry
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Its mostly to chill and keep dodgeing when meeting snipers.

lunar hollow
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i would have to spam T to find the snipers

wet belfry
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Sliding works to.

lunar hollow
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then the brainburst would log on

hollow current
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gentlemen, I have reached ascension, warp flurry IV on trauma pogryn

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onyx sentinel
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Which one of these blessings should I replace with Warp Flurry?

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lethal lagoon
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Sacrifice the weapon and bank Surge. Hope they fix it for Trauma in a later patch.

hollow current
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Neither are that great on trauma but yeah, banking surge for the future might be the move.

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so if you want to use it, pave over warp nexus I suppose

lethal lagoon
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The weapon is not worth using honestly even if you don't care about surge.

mortal crest
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Dawg why are bursters the most inconsistent thing to push

onyx sentinel
onyx sentinel
hollow current
gloomy gulch
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man I wish the staffs shared blessings

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the heck

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doesnt void and trauma have all the same blessings?

spice veldt
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with the exception of rending shockwave

cloud sequoia
idle bay
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It took me a while to get T4 Warp Nexus on Surge staff.

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Thanks Melk!

cold geode
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It showed up in my melk today and I don't have enough to grab it. First time I've seen it and I'm at 1236.7 hours played

idle bay
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Finalized my Surge staff at last. It can't get any better. Above 369 does not exist in my RNG seed for me.

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ember hornet
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I kinda maybe see a use case for surge on hi5 shock

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but like what if instead you did damage

cyan notch
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u can do damage with melee

cold geode
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Runnin' and gunnin'

idle bay
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While suppressing potential melee kills while breaking distance

forest coral
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Surge ain’t too bad on gauntlet until the horde and gauntlet happen at same time

idle bay
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At same direction - then it's awkward 🙂

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LMB of Surge is massively underestimated really

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If only lightning from charged Surge was not chaining to RANDOM number of targets....

ember hornet
potent glade
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is blazing spirit a meme blessing

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I just got t4 for it

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amd t2 exorcist

weak sapphire
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If Im using kinetic flayer it says all attacks have a chance of brainbursting my target. Will my lasgun attacks enable that too?

gloomy gulch
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are people still using void because Im having a blast with one right now 😄

spice veldt
idle bay
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I find that the funniest thing to trigger Kinetic Flayer is your BB, that leads to Double BB 🙂

ember hornet
cyan notch
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void kinda lame

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i only use infinite cleave weapons

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aka trauma and purg

lunar hollow
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i feel like a gremlin

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just joined a malice game to get warp battery

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left

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then went to a hight int gauntlet heresy to get pick n mix then left

gloomy gulch
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I have a purge staff that is good but not sure what melee to pair it with. The tipped sword? Or some sort of silly dueling sword

lunar hollow
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ive ran purge with mk IV and V dueling sword

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and obscurus FS

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on damnation

gloomy gulch
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Neat

lunar hollow
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deimos and illisi are both quite good right now

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personally ive found dueling swords to be very underwhelming, since force sword gets stuff like slaughterer, unstable, and deflector

humble star
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Yeah, Deimos FS works very well with the pergatus

lunar hollow
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also siblings

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what are good spots to do Cliffhanger on

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im thinking the throneside area where you gotta power up the bridge

ruby plover
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classic was the green mission

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whats it called

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with the interrogator finale

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bridge connects to a last interrogator

lunar hollow
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i know the one

humble star
ruby plover
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yeah that finale is a banger

lunar hollow
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thats a good idea as well

lunar hollow
gloomy gulch
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Ok so there are two levels that start at the same spot that have a little bridge one is hab dreyko and the other one is Chasm Logistratum I believe. Right at the beginning on the first bridge there is a tiny brig off to the side. It's on the right at the beginning of dreyko and the left on chasm.

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Wait for a horde and

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You should be good

humble star
# lunar hollow i dont use my special enough lol

On Chasm Station. the drop down(point of no return) to the final area just above the boss room. You can aggro enemies down there without jumping down and they will all climb up behind you. Simply use special while they are all climbing up and you will knock like 20 of them off

ionic frost
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primary can do damage too if you hit...

lunar hollow
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appreciate it boys

humble star
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This spot

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feral verge
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the deimos fucks so hard

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plague ogryn

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doesnt like deimos to the head

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they need to buff dueling swords

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cuz deimos beats them in almost every single way

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i think the only edge dueling swords have is a little bit more sprint speed/dodge distance

cyan notch
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better block cost

feral verge
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oh true

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still

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overall, vastly outmoded by deimos

humble star
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unlimited dodges is nice, so is the free deflector currently KEKW_ogryn

feral verge
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after seeing pygex's video, im learning the 1 shot charging mutie tech

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its alot of fun

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ironic

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because im the first comment in the video, complaining about the deimos' announcement

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and now im singing it's praise

cyan notch
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they are valid complaints

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we didnt know we would be getting illisi

feral verge
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yee ik

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just ironic in my case

potent echo
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Is there a scenario where you press weapon special on deimos

humble star
feral verge
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obscurus is still good

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but deimos and illisi feel even better

humble star
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up until that point the regular FS was amazing. Now that these are out, IDK if I'll ever go back

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simply outclassed in every way

feral verge
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this one sword would be the only reason for me to go back

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for shieldgryn roleplay

cyan notch
forest coral
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No more obscurus, too obscure

ruby plover
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i never wanted brain burst special

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illisi....

summer prairie
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the special is also better against ragers in many situations and the captain when the shield is down

weary elbow
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what should i get rid of, for deflector? as well as perks

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feral verge
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Yeah special stuns ragers

feral verge
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But it's a bug

weary elbow
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oo

feral verge
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Keep unstable power

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Get rid of crit chance, for maniac

humble star
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slaughterer

weary elbow
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ahh kk

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ive never used the 2 new swords

humble star
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always go more power whatthefuck_heresy

weary elbow
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im just crafting them

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so idk which is better

feral verge
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Slaughterer+ unstable power are the best blessings for force swords on most builds

weary elbow
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oh daymm

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i'll be on the lookout for a slaughterer

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what are the 2 best perks on force swords? maniacs and ___?

feral verge
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Flak

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Infested is nice on illisi. I think it helps with 1 shot break points on poxwalkers

ember hornet
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aka killing 20 poxwalkers per swing

weary elbow
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lol nice

feral verge
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Yeah I run 25 maniac & infested on mine

weary elbow
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just rolled an illisi that came with 25 maniac, i'll put infested as well

feral verge
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I haven't tested to see if a normal illisi can do it

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But with mine (25 infested) I can 1 shot dogs

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It's very useful

weary elbow
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i kinda like the deminos (after tryign it in meat grinder), the heavy 2 is real strong

feral verge
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With unstable power + warp unleashed + 6 warp charges, the heavy special on an illisi with 25 maniac does around 70% of their hp

weary elbow
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maybe in the future swap off unstable power for slaughter?

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god damn i gotta try that

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i c people running the auto pistol as well, seems real strong

feral verge
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If that's a horde clear sword, out slaughterer on it

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I don't use mine as horde clear

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I use mine as straggler clear

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Opps

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Wrong wep

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I use exorcist to get toughness back

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My purgatus is for horde clear

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I pretty much play like a flamer zealot with this

hybrid solstice
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tfw i already spent all my melkbux buying tier 4 slaughterer

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actual rip

feral verge
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Rip

weary elbow
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yeah for now, ganna make imporvements once i get more plasteels xD

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forest coral
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rip but grats on t4 tho

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thats still kinda a huge win

hybrid solstice
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i guess but i wish i could have both lel

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ah well

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it is what it is

feral verge
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I keep 8k melkbucks in reserve

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So I never run into the situation of not having enough

hybrid solstice
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i havent been doing that and now i am reaping what i sow

weary elbow
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psyker got changed so much since last month... are these good feats to run with flame staff?

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hybrid solstice
weary elbow
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no reason flybee, im just taking peoples' advice, haven't play teseted yet

hybrid solstice
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you can run essence harvest if you want though

weary elbow
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woah warp unleashed got a big buff

spice veldt
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you'd run infested on Illisi to hit the one-shot breakpoint on poxwalkers with the minimum cleave damage with max slaughterer stacks and whatnot

weary elbow
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didnt realize till i hoved over

spice veldt
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e.g., killing 21 poxwalkers in a single swing

hybrid solstice
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oh, would you run that over flak?

forest coral
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3 1 1 1 1 2/3 not bad either

feral verge
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Purga staff shines with ascendant blaze. Ascendant blaze shines with warp battery

hybrid solstice
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i just chose flak since i didnt know what else to run

spice veldt
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if you reaaaally want too spec into hordeclear, though I personally wouldn't take it over flak

hybrid solstice
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i c

weary elbow
hybrid solstice
fading patrol
humble star
young spear
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we have the mage's court and 1 homeless guy with a sledgehammer

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ionic frost
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homeless guy with a razor

forest coral
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Tbh i find kd just a bit too useful to pass up

ionic frost
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or naturally bald

forest coral
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But I play very melee oriented so might be biased on it

ionic frost
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i like kd...can save you when a shooter squad ambushes your flaming self =)

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purg staff

humble star
ionic frost
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and not close enough to roast them

forest coral
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It’s rare but it definitely saved me in a clutch a few times before

grizzled jasper
forest coral
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Yup!

young spear
humble star
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Even without deflector blessing. it means you can block with 0 stam. Just super good

young spear
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and he was all up for it when he heard we were being threatened

forest coral
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Yup, I love it because u can become tank against bosses

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Or just needing to block dodge through a horde unscathed

humble star
forest coral
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Because his mind needed to rest

young spear
forest coral
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uwu

young spear
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uwu

hybrid solstice
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okay so at 6 warp charges, about 25% ish peril with WU and +25% infested you can one-shot damnation dogs to the body with a special charged heavy from the illisi assuming it has good damage stats

grizzled jasper
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“Guys who took the toilet seat again”

young spear
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my fault

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im dripped tho

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chair game high

hybrid solstice
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hopefully they die before they get into melee but its' nice to be able to do

young spear
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can this weapon even hit 3 enemies

forest coral
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No

primal plume
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WHAT IF PSYKER GOT A STAFF THAT CAN HEAL TOUGHNESS

forest coral
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It’s a sad meme

hybrid solstice
forest coral
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If u want duelling sword playstyle but actually kill things

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I’d advise using the Deimos instead

hybrid solstice
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it is called Quietitude :^)

primal plume
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is quietude good?

hybrid solstice
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veteran has a feat that does that i think

primal plume
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never used it

forest coral
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Yes

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Quietitude is very very good

young spear
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oh well the shove can hit 3 enemies

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thats still pretty not great

humble star
primal plume
forest coral
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Use Deimos SkadiNODDERS and have access to slaughterer

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Unlimited dodging

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Insta killing elites with heavy shanks

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Very high light attack damage

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Etc etc

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All whilst maintaining same dodge mobility and access to specials that can kill armoured bois without having to bb

kind jay
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change mind in motion to a temp health build if you really wanna rile up some folks

cyan notch
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what does that even mean

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sounds like youre just saying random words

humble star
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V2 is leaking

kind jay
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don't worry it's #JustIncomparableThings

cyan notch
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doesnt even make sense

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changing a feat to "temp health build"

kind jay
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it's just a v2 joke

ionic frost
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vets that dump all their ammo into the horde you're destroying... =D

cyan notch
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terrible joke

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thats like saying change mind in motion to red dust build

ionic frost
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the warp

cyan notch
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LOL get it its vt2

ionic frost
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has me

kind jay
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red dust build op

sinful spruce
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Are there decent alternatives to FS? New to Psyker and really not liking FS while also trying to figure out what weapons to run, looking to run Heresy+

humble star
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Don't like any of the 3 FS options?

forest coral
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Well, knife and axes are still very decent

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duelling swords look great but are outclassed by the Deimos fs

humble star
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Knife, dueling sword, antax mkV are the usual non FS options

forest coral
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Ya

kind jay
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people use combat axe with brutal momentum

forest coral
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If u want safe to try higher difficulties, I recommend antaxe

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psyker can infinitely block push attack due to stamina regen

sinful spruce
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so far dont like the deimos fs havent unlocked the others yet

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was gonna look at antax and see how it feels

spice veldt
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they bumped up the level requirement for obscurus huh

humble star
forest coral
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illisi is incredibly strong

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Deimos is also incredibly strong but needs practice

fierce sinew
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antax remains the best do everything melee

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imo

sinful spruce
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I'll give illisi a try once i've got it unlocked, do you guys have any reccomendations for staves/guns?

spice veldt
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agripinaa infantry and shredder autopistol (w/ Pinning Fire and Blaze Away) are my picks for guns

forest coral
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If u want entry staff

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Purg is safe

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Void is a middle ground, trauma is excellent for hi intense

humble star
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Just use what you feel like using, all the staves are good thru the highest content.

forest coral
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Surge is like a true support staff

forest coral
sinful spruce
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ty guys for the reccomendations, helping save me moeny early on and saving me some time on stuff to look outfor/try

forest coral
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Have fun!

vague path
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what is 'illisi'?

stone quest
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One of the two new Force Sword variants.

vague path
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ah copy

stone quest
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Sacrifices single target for cleave...

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But, oh wait, I mean "sacrifices"

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Because charged attacks still do like 1k+ damage on headshots, and can oneshot basically everything with the correct perks

weary elbow
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can voidstrike staff even crit (warp nexus)

stone quest
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Because.. Yes. KEKW

vague path
stone quest
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Illisi also has fuck-broken clear capability though

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Easily can chop through 10 Poxwalkers, and with any roll of vs. Infested, that shit goes straight up to 20.

autumn smelt
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completed a heresy and got this

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i didnt even know that charge rate could drop this low over 300 base

near wyvern
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Emperor is mysterious

forest coral
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Illisi is a child of power sword and heavy sword with infinite dodges

spice veldt
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doesn't have the 7.5 cleave on normal heavies like both though; very sad

cyan notch
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you need specific stuff to 1 shot 20 poxwalkers

spice veldt
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weakspot, WU, max slaughterer stacks, +infested

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may or may not need unstable power for it as well

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works on my force sword at least with +infested assuming that I hit weakspots

forest coral
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Specific stuff yes, but the fact it has potential to do that is juicy

potent echo
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Is there any same way to build revolver on psyker? Takes 3 headshots for trapper lmao

cloud sequoia
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laser tripwire KEKW_ogryn

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sniper fog is fun as psykerKEKW_ogryn

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kind jay
ionic frost
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if it had infinite pen, it'd be good

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revolver should be emperor-infused warp-bullets for everyone>

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small bonus for psykers

digital loom
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does exorcist work on illisi

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as in practice

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i've got this hadron special i am trying to salvage

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and i'd like to boost slaughterer

golden tartan
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Yes

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Exorcist gud

digital loom
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ok

golden tartan
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Do u want free toughness? Thats how u get free toughness

near wyvern
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Exorcist Bloodthirsty would be interesting if Slaugherer wasn't so strong

summer prairie
near wyvern
forest coral
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Those straight 80s

cyan notch
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swap that mob with warp res

late yew
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Worth buying?

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Don't have warp flurry yet

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costs melk

potent glade
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I honestly dont know but it is a t4

late yew
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I fuckn hate playing with another psyker in team

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am i the only one like thaty

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when i play psyker i get grouped up with 2 other

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when i play zealot i get grouped up with 2 zealots

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wtf

digital loom
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yeah

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i see one ogryn every five games

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when i play ogryn, 2-4 a game

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??

late yew
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So should i just take flurry off that surge

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since i don't have it

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or upgrade it?

digital loom
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i'd upgrade it just to see what it turns into

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oh

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it costs melk

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nvm

late yew
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i mean i need flurry 4 no matter what for other staves as well

fierce sinew
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that's not how it works

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you give hadron that staff and you get flurry for surge only

digital loom
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if you spend your milk money on something like that, something good will show up tomorrow that you can't afford

burnt island
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I kind of feel bad that I got the Not Even Close penance at level 2. I'm a vet main and I recall seeing other pyskers struggle with it.

ornate hamlet
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which one is that?

burnt island
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brain burst the dog as it pounces

fierce sinew
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if you are going to spend your milkies on something nonessential saturday is the day to do it

ornate hamlet
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ah, that one is fine tbh

fierce sinew
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since if something you really care about shows up tomorrow you'll have the option to reroll and do all your contracts worst case

ornate hamlet
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just guarantee a one-shot on the dog and boom

burnt island
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Easier to do at the sedition level missions.

past brook
near wyvern
# past brook oh that's great, I need to know the build lol

Unstable 4 with +maniac 20% so if you have +maniac 25% even unstable 3 would be fine.

For feats I have 311112 as that's what I run with my spirit nexus trauma, the main thing is to have Warp Unleashed. The more warp charges you have the less peril you need. As long as you have good enough damage, finesse and first target rolls it's happy head hunting.

The other blessing I have is deflector, I know the Deimos has it built in but I am anticipating it's a bug.

past brook
#

alright, nice

#

speaking of built-in, doesn't the new power sword also kind of have power cycler built in? at least, on heavy attacks

fierce sinew
#

the deflector thing got the acknowledged tag

past brook
#

FYI acknowledged just means they've logged it, it doesn't mean they've said "yep that's a bug"

#

I've had stuff go from acknowledged to not-a-bug, presumably after they looked at it

fierce sinew
#

their behavior is definitely inconsistent

cyan notch
#

i mean cmon do people actually think its not a bug

fierce sinew
#

they've also come out and made comments in addition to categorizing things in the past which they so far (to my knowledge, I don't pay the closest attention) haven't done here

past brook
#

you never know, it might be them looking at how people make force swords and seeing if it becomes default behavior

#

companies are known for doing unlisted changes to see how people react

fierce sinew
#

now that I do think is silly

cyan notch
#

ok but then you think about it for 2s and you realise obscurus doesnt have it

fierce sinew
#

fatshark are not doing actual AB testing

#

no shot

cyan notch
#

deflector is still a blessing thats locked

fierce sinew
#

nothing that data driven is behind their design process

past brook
cyan notch
#

the amount of copium people have to be inhaling has to be off the charts if they convince themselves its not a bug

past brook
#

never pass down an opportunity for more data

cyan notch
#

no shit dude u give people a free blessing of course theyre gonna want it

#

how about they just make slaughterer intrinsic on all weapons

past brook
#

it's not making the weapon more powerful, it's a behavior

fierce sinew
past brook
#

eh, yeah

cyan notch
#

wdym what builds people use with obscurus

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builds dont change with deflector

#

you just get a free 3rd blessing

mental junco
past brook
#

how often any force sword gets used now vs. pre-patch, and how often the obscurus gets used vs. the two new ones

mental junco
#

why it only come to me when i have no money at all (although it is not really a good one

past brook
#

it may make them think about turning this bug into a feature, so to speak

cyan notch
mellow dock
#

What blessings am i looking for on the Void force staff?

past brook
fierce sinew
#

the bizarro world fatshark that was doing regression analysis to normalize class/weapon/feat combination boss parses like this was a moba or mmo is funny to think about

past brook
#

so which one is it

past brook
ornate hamlet
#

psyker players are usually too busy brain bursting shooters one by one across the map to worry about things like getting shot and using deflector

past brook
#

but that's my 2 cents, for however much anyone cares about it

late yew
late yew
cyan notch
late yew
#

But now i want to do "kill boss with only BB"

fierce sinew
#

I think flurry 4 is very good, it's surge that I personally view as medium

mellow dock
#

Deimos has deflector intrinsic

late yew
#

who the fuck designed that one

cyan notch
#

so how are you going to definitively say yeah people really like this deflector on the ALREADY BUSTED SWORDS

late yew
fierce sinew
#

but if you're surge gaming I think it's 100% worth

past brook
late yew
#

Which perks and blessings i want on surge?

digital loom
past brook
#

always a possibility, regardless of origins of why the two new force swords have delfector baked in

digital loom
#

also i run deflector with 60~ block efficiency and a stamina curio

cyan notch
#

yeah always a possibility that theyre gonna give me and only me 100% stat weapons sure

#

never say never!

#

always a chance!

late yew
fierce sinew
#

the only thing that makes me think the deflector staying could happen is the combat axe maniac thing

cyan notch
#

ok then what about people with deflector already locked then

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are they just fucked

#

theyd have to redesign it

digital loom
#

the reason i run deflector on a sword that is bugged to have it without deflector is because i don't want to play dishonestly around a bug and then have the bug fixed and then i get upset

fierce sinew
#

to be clear I don't think it's likely

cyan notch
#

its way less simple than just reverting maniac damage

fierce sinew
#

agreed

late yew
#

i think deflector should just allow you to block shots even from behind

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while keeping blocking front shots as basic function

fierce sinew
#

but the fact that they reverted at all means they're wary of stepping on toes that way, maybe they just let it rock

ornate hamlet
#

funny warp bubble

fierce sinew
#

(probably not)

cyan notch
#

its a different scenario imo

fierce sinew
#

it's not a perfect analogy

past brook
#

I could easily see them reworking deflector into something related if they decide to go that route

cyan notch
#

they gave us ultra toughness regen and they still toned it back

#

and then what happens with blessing locks

#

people are just fucked every time they decide to drastically change blessings

past brook
#

they've done it before

fierce sinew
#

in the world where they left it I think deflector just gets changed into a block efficiency blessing with some shooting related throw in

#

maybe movement speed when you block shot, something small

cyan notch
#

yea something small thats not worth it

#

but already locked

#

what if they changed slaughterer to u taking 500% more damage also

past brook
#

I dunno, have it actually reflect lasbolts/bullets at whatever damage is deemed appropriate

fierce sinew
#

people who locked in deflector on a sword that deflects without it still have the functionality they had before

cyan notch
#

yea but now they have a blessing that they might not even want

#

and they didnt choose

past brook
#

you left deflector on for a reason, it now has the same functionality but adds another layer to the now-default behavior

fierce sinew
#

they could also just unlock all deflector blessed swords in this hypothetical patch

cyan notch
#

sure thatd be the best solution

fierce sinew
#

seems cleanest

cyan notch
#

let people make the decision for themselves

digital loom
#

dont ever lock deflector lol

fierce sinew
#

they could also just do nothing

cyan notch
#

but it aint happening

fierce sinew
#

leave deflector as a taunt

#

forever

cyan notch
#

as a warning to every single blessing that you have locked

#

that they could change it at anytime and ur stuck with it

#

changing slaughterer to make you take 500% damage also

#

well its locked now get fucked

fierce sinew
#

"complain on the forums one more time you fucks"

#

"you'll see, you'll all see"

#

unlocking locked blessings whenever a patch changes them is a good practice in general that I'd like to see implemented tbh

near wyvern
fierce sinew
#

but probably won't

cyan notch
#

how about just remove locks

fierce sinew
#

of course that would be preferable

cyan notch
#

thatll save them all the trouble every time they change shit (all the time)

past brook
#

ain't that the truth

digital loom
#

thats how i imagine things playing out

near wyvern
#

But if they remove the locks they can't bloat the play time of the game, which in return lowers their value in the eyes of the stock holders

digital loom
#

eventually they'll nerf slaughterer or something and everyone will be mad and to placate the masses they'll go "ok we're removing locks but changing it to cost more!" or something like that

#

and then everyone will be upset about the increased costs but they'll get ghosted by fatshark

#

and then with their stockholm syndrome the players will look at this shit and go "well, it could be worse"

potent echo
#

thats how you live service

cyan notch
#

dead service

#

no new content

#

no endgame

#

for what 5 months now

#

good thing diablo 4 is coming out soon

#

gonna be outta this shithole then

idle bay
digital loom
#

funny that you think diablo 4 will be different

cyan notch
#

i mean d4 has a story and endgame

#

thats already better than dt (4months in btw)

digital loom
#

hey, dont get me wrong ok, you like diablo, you like the franchise, you can play your shitgame in peace, ok? But it won't be better. It never gets better, it only gets worse.

#

all games are shitgames now

#

its just about what you like versus what you have to put up with

idle bay
#

Indie games are our hope now...

cyan notch
#

sure if thats what you think

#

but i dont believe your judgement

#

all game bad no!!!!! nothing will ever be good! no!!!!

#

yea ok buddy sure u do u

digital loom
#

just try to avoid investing so much time and money into it that you mistake the time and money investment as something too valuable to abandon

#

or else you will either feel awful or delude yourself

#

possibly both

cyan notch
#

who is doing that

#

sounds like ur speaking from experience

digital loom
#

i've been on the internet for over 25 years of course i have experience

#

"this shitgame is bad i'm going to play new good game!" "i just realized i'm playing a shitgame and it's bad, I'm going to play this new good game!"

inland juniper
#

Can someone give me some general tips/generic build please I'm struggling to get the hang of the class

cyan notch
#

it aint that deep if u arent having fun just do something else maybe come back later if you like what you see

#

you dont have to eat at the same restaurant every single day

digital loom
#

its a never ending loop of deceitful marketing work and minimum viability just to host the cash shop

#

you can be in denial all you want, and truthfully it's better if you remain ignorant because then you'll have more fun

cyan notch
#

who is in denial of what

inland sand
#

i've never understood why people play games they don;t enjoy#

west galleon
#

Here we have a guy trying to communicate on why you should not invest your personality into gaming and a guy who gets kind of defensive about that

#

And im here sitting on my throne

digital loom
#

most likely what will happen on D4 launch is it will get loaded with all of the poe haters who never stop complaining and agitating and harassing each other because marketing is saying it's a "poe killer" and getting "x killer" as a label has been proven to be a death sentence. they never pull the audience long term of the game thats supposed to be killed because who wants to play a new game that's basically the "same thing" as what they're playing already, the audience they do pull from that game however are all of the toxic high conflict personalities that are unhappy with the game they are playing and think the grass is greaner at the "x killer" who will linger for a few months, review bombing the game, complaining nonstop, harassing people who actually like the game, griefing and getting themselves banned, before returning to whatever hell they crawled out of

summer prairie
#

ok

potent echo
#

psyker chat lore friendly edition

digital loom
#

and that's assuming blizzard has effective protection against the bot army that will appear to appease an artifically created demand in order to sell solutions in the cash shop

cyan notch
digital loom
#

lost ark didn't and now 80% of the population is bots supplying rmt to the 20% of juicers left

#

new player retention is in the toilet, its just a whaling ship now.

forest coral
#

Forgive Amazon games they are small indie company who clearly didn’t run an mmo before lost ark

digital loom
#

the spicy thing is they kept accidentally banning people for various things, a lot of people quit out of fear.

forest coral
#

but for reals, every Korea to global release has been a botting shit show because kr games usually don’t need to worry about multi account since all online accounts need citizenship id

#

And not a single na publisher ever addressed it

digital loom
#

i think bliz requires phone number now for a lot of stuff

#

its only really fucking wacky with steam f2p releases because steam has an extremely low barrier for bot entry

#

and f2p have no barrier to entry

#

d4 shouldn't be too bad since its a 70$ game, unless there is loads of money to be made

#

imagine, 70$ game trying to kill a free to play game

forest coral
#

The entry price tag curbs the botting mostly

#

but I dunno, im skeptical of new mmo releases

digital loom
#

no no excuse me

#

70$ game with cash shop

forest coral
#

that’s like every mmo I’ve played since guild wars

digital loom
#

i'll wait until they sell it for 20$ unless its extremely extremely good

forest coral
#

I’m waiting for the “paid convenience” or “monthly benefits” to rear its ugly head

#

Then u get trifecta

#

Paid entry, cash shop, subscription

digital loom
#

the modern economic strategy is to wait a month or two before turning screws

#

you want to get people attached to their time investment first before you roll out the circus

forest coral
#

That’s it

#

I’ll give blizz around 3 months- 6 months before the clowning begins

#

After all the “competitive” guilds are set up

digital loom
#

yeah i usually wait 6

#

unless its something i'm weak to

#

i simp for warhammer, unfortunately

idle bay
digital loom
#

but i do have over 1000 hours and am not unhappy with darktide so

#

i guess this is the shitgame for me

forest coral
#

Yup, this and monster hunter for me

cyan notch
#

waiting for world 2

#

didnt like rise

#

but whatever i get it they have to make a title for garbo switch

forest coral
#

Rise wasn’t awful, just the end game loop was mediocre imo

#

but yeah, worlds 2 I know groups of people waiting for news of it. Hibernating, slumbering.

potent echo
#

rise is fun if you mod out all the rng nonsense lmao

cyan notch
#

dont like wirebug stuff

#

dumbs game down

potent echo
#

for me it adds options and variety, used to be problematic with some weapons but currently it feels well balanced

digital loom
#

the wirebug was more fun than the clutch claw

#

but i do want more world

#

the lobby in world is the best

faint vault
#

Any cons to binding crouch and dodge together?

inland sand
#

i'm pretty excited for the future of DT tbh

potent echo
#

can you even slide when doing that

faint vault
#

Yes.

potent echo
#

dodge slide eats 2 dodge counters

#

so i wouldnt bind them tgt

faint vault
#

Valid point!

rigid sky
#

Question: Trauma Force Staff. Pair with Deimos or with Illisi?

still hearth
#

Yes.

#

They are both good with it, imo.

near wyvern
rigid sky
#

I mean I do absolutely love my Deimos

#

would like to find something to use an Illisi with though

potent echo
#

revolver

still hearth
#

Just use it

potent echo
still hearth
#

Illisi claps

summer prairie
#

illisi+shredder

rigid sky
#

Illisi seems like a good one for gunker

still hearth
#

Its definitely great for that combo

#

Shredder will already brutalize mutants

#

Before they touch you

summer prairie
#

illisi is mostly there so you don't get the urge to shoot at hordes

still hearth
#

Deimos needs a rework

#

It should be all stabs

#

All of the lights and heavies

#

Just high damage stabs

onyx sentinel
#

I've picked up Trauma about 6 games ago and so far it feels better than voidstrike at damnation idk why

#

like with 6 charges you get unlimited mindless m2 spam

rigid sky
#

It's enough horde clear by itself?

near wyvern
near wyvern
onyx sentinel
#

that's fair, though we had a run where we had double zealots and no one had long range guns/staves, ranged scabs on throneside just fucks us

#

but with vets around I feel like it's strictly better than void

summer prairie
#

void can cleave most non-ogryn elites fine

near wyvern
#

Also illisi is good with surge

cyan notch
#

its good with pretty much anything tbh

summer prairie
#

On hi/shock barrage/aura BB is so good that you can pretty much bring any ranged you like and be useful

cyan notch
#

yea i bring trauma for that just for oh shit moments

#

gameplay is just spam bb

inland juniper
#

is there a melee weapon tier list?

near wyvern
inland juniper
#

illisi and deimos? force swords?

magic burrow
#

Id say the dueling swords and the combat knife come second based of pure mobility

inland juniper
#

are those first two forceswords?

magic burrow
#

yeah, the new ones

#

illisi for cleave, deimos for single target

forest coral
#

Deimos is just duelling sword but better

inland juniper
#

so deimos purgatos combo good?

forest coral
#

Very

#

Practice accessing the heavy shank

#

And you’ll one tap elites with headshots

#

Maulers 2 headshots

#

it’s also an extremely good sword for holding boss aggro and kiting daemonhost

#

in fact you can easily 1v1 assassination targets with it if ur team can hold the horde off you to an extent

potent echo
#

Yea Deimos demolishes the shields too from the captain boss

#

It's just harder to maintain high peril for warp unleashed

forest coral
#

Yeah, more high effort. Have to q swap rather than spam like illisi can for stacking

inland juniper
#

so what does illisi pair with

#

lightning?

lusty viper
#

Other staves all clear hordes decently to excellently, where as surge is all about stunning a handful of toughies

#

Here's a question though, I've never been tempted to take a Dueling sword, less so with the new force sword updates, but this one seems nice?

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summer prairie
#

bad blessings and perks, easy skip

#

riposte is fine but you'd want the t4 if you get it from melk

inland juniper
#

thought it would be a damage class, we just CC machines huh

quiet galleon
#

which perks does purg want?

forest coral
stable silo
#

Make sure that you unlock the true spirit of the illisi with blazing soul crit firesword build

forest coral
#

only if blaze sword was actually good

near wyvern
pearl rune
#

I can’t find the answer anywhere, does kinetic Deflection and the deflection blessing stack?

summer prairie
#

yes

whole oxide
#

like, +500% more damage absurd

summer prairie
#

crit is okay but it's only a t3 too

whole oxide
#

true, best saving melks for a t4

summer prairie
#

that might have been worth getting a few months ago but high base rating items are very common now

whole oxide
#

they're common if you've been farming mats/gold for the last 5 months

summer prairie
#

even the ordo shop has 370+ all the time

still hearth
#

Because Fatshark

vestal raven
#

When u see warp flurry 4 in melk but used all ur currency

#

huge L

still hearth
#

Crit isn't even that good on crit weapons, it's just the best option they got.

#

Idk where you get +500%

#

It does about 3x damage on light crits

summer prairie
#

check out armored though

whole oxide
still hearth
#

You're still better off using heavies on flak

#

But sure

whole oxide
#

okay, heavy on maniac, 163 bodyshot, 272 critical, not as big an increase, but still that's a higher increase than any other damage boosting blessing/perk

summer prairie
#

it's pretty nice when you run shred riposte and get 50% crit going

still hearth
#

If you could have Headtaker and Slaughter for 75% power each I'd never even look at crit

#

And Shred + Riposte is just stupid how much effort it takes compared to that

summer prairie
#

give dueling swords something goofy like +30% attack speed blessing

still hearth
#

I approve

#

It'd be way better than Precog

#

And also what is up with dodge based blessings

#

And them being shit value

viral solstice
#

precog is stonks

#

invest in it now

#

it get boofewd

#

riposte is honestly fine

#

20% crit is ok

still hearth
#

No it's garbo

#

Buff

cyan notch
#

precock

viral solstice
#

they just need to make the duration like 1s longer

still hearth
#

100% crit on dodge

#

For 2s

viral solstice
#

i mean yes what i would do is

whole oxide
#

i guess I just value different things on DS, 'cos I'm not going to use a DS to attack a wall of zombies, or take on a big group of elites, its mainly for moving out of trouble and quickly spiking the occasional thing on its own

still hearth
#

There you go

viral solstice
#

make it like bloodthirsty

whole oxide
#

so i wouldn't be stacking slaughterer on it

viral solstice
#

on successful dodge u get a one use buff

#

which is way cooler

#

but u no how it be

still hearth
#

If you could stack Slaughter on it it'd shred hordes

#

So you would do that

viral solstice
#

what the game really needs is two diff successful melee dodge types

still hearth
viral solstice
#

normal dodges, and either perfectly timed dodges / dodges for big attacks

#

so u cant just spam dodge chaff and get infinite value

still hearth
#

The only reason people don't use DS as a weapon is because it kinda sucks as a weapon. If it didn't suck people would use it as a weapon.

whole oxide
#

trouble with reposte, is it sounds like you can have it up constantly by spamming dodge

#

but if you actually watch your blessings icons ingame

#

its really not up that much

viral solstice
#

ye

still hearth
#

Because you mostly stagger enemies if you're fighting back

viral solstice
#

thats why when they said they were going to reduce duration

#

i was like

#

but whyy

#

precog isnt bad beacuse its dodge related, its bad because they set the numbers the same way they set all the weakspot stuff

#

at random while afk

summer prairie
#

I like how they reduced the duration when they made it refresh but now they made a bunch of other ones refresh and let them be

viral solstice
#

also the fact the bonus is a special non-double dipping crit weakspot finesse bonus so u get less value on weakspot crits than u would expect

#

they made the entire class of buffs refresh

#

bm, ghost, etc

still hearth
viral solstice
#

which is fine

#

like they should, it makes sense

#

but riposte yeahhh

still hearth
#

Riposte should stack and last until you block or swap weapon

#

Up to 100% crit

#

Hire me

viral solstice
#

or, even better

#

the amount of crit it gives

#

scales with the damage of the hit u dodged

#

bam, instant swag

still hearth
#

Let me store crits

late yew
viral solstice
#

light attacks store soulblaze charges

#

heavies spend them to set ppl on fire

still hearth
#

That would be neat

#

Capped at 3 of course

#

Because thumbsup_ogryn

viral solstice
#

and u get +1 stack on crits or weakspots, +2 on crit weakspots

still hearth
#

You get 0.5 stacks

ornate hamlet
#

imagine giving the player control over their blessings

wet belfry
#

The amount of tech the psyker has compared to other classes always manages to impress me.

chrome arch
#

So I put IV Exorcist on my Illisi, and I don't see any icon when I kill poxwalkers with headslashes. It still works, right?

near wyvern
near wyvern
still hearth
#

You only get 5% per swing anyway right?

#

So its not easy to notice.

chrome arch
#

Ye

#

I believe it does work still

#

Just

#

So many other short"" blessings have an icon popped, I am surprised they didn't make any icon for this

near wyvern
near wyvern
inland juniper
#

this class feels so fucking weak??

feral verge
#

it's as strong as ever

#

its just levelling kinda sucks for it

wet belfry
#

Depends on what you compare it to.

inland juniper
#

nothing is dying, nothing is getting stunned

#

I have no hp and no toughness

wet belfry
#

Your probably using the wrong gear, weapons.

inland juniper
#

dueling sword surge

feral verge
#

there's your problem

#

surge is very mid

#

dueling sword is completely outmoded by deimos force sword

#

surge is the worst staff imo

#

if oyu are low level still, that's a problem too. psyker doesnt take off until level 25-30

#

all of the staves feel kinda bad at low level

#

because low damage, slow cast time and high peril cost

wet belfry
#

Honestly i think psyker is actually pretty good low level.

viral solstice
#

get ur hands on some high quality drugs and a sword

#

and go to town

tall temple
#

you can do some fun shit that works only at malice like use a revolver or something

inland juniper
#

yeah, staff psyker feels awful atm

#

like oh my god I get nothing done

vestal rose
#

wait am i not supposed to be using revolver at damnation

inland juniper
#

yeah, back to ogryn lmao

lethal folio
#

Revolver works until you run out ammo.

late yew
#

Damn, BB build is pretty fun

viral solstice
#

Simple, steal the veterans ammo

late yew
viral solstice
#

Also use a revolver dump stat reload speed so ur ammo lasts longer

late yew
#

by bb build i mean using Wrack and Ruin, Psykinetic Aura and Kinetic Barrage

#

Just use ult whenever you see elites

#

Kill them

#

and your ult ready again

#

hmmm

#

Should i replace revive speed?

feral verge
#

big yes

#

stack toughness regen

sage yacht
#

I have an ok Deimos but not sure what perks I should be looking for on it. Given that's it's a special clearer, is it maniacs + elites or what?

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lean valley
#

But if you stack revive speed you can bring up the people being downed on malice :)

feral verge
#

swap weakspot for carapace

#

deimos does full damage to all armor types, except carapace, where it only does 80% dmg

summer prairie
#

that's not how it works

#

even if you do full damage, you'll still do more with the perk

feral verge
#

yee ik

summer prairie
#

get flak

feral verge
#

im suggesting carapace to shore up the 1 "weakness" of deimos

#

yee flak would be my 2nd suggestion

#

i have flak and maniac on mine

summer prairie
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you are better off BBing most carapace targets anyway

cyan notch
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u can 2 shot without carapace already

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seems kinda low value to take it

sage yacht
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wouldn't it be nice that instead of removing ranged weapon block from deimos they just made it inherinat for all force swords

feral verge
spice veldt
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it'd be nice but also a bit too nice

feral verge
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thanks hadron

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luckily i dont want this sword

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just to farm for t4s

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but jfc

cyan notch
spice veldt
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it's not like pre-patch where you could argue that the obscurus had milquetoast offensive power

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since the illisi and Deimos now exist, and the base damage of force swords got bumped, and the other blessings besides slaughterer that compete with deflector are also meh

summer prairie
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the swords don't particularly need more power though besides slaughterer

late yew
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Does toughness regen speed affect quitetude?

spice veldt
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nope, toughness Regen speed only affects the toughness regeneration from being in coherency

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it does not affect toughness Regen from any feats

late yew
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What other perks are good?

feral verge
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sniper resist, gunner resist

late yew
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just don't get hit (tm)

spice veldt
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I like stam Regen since I'm constantly in melee and running around

late yew
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i would get it on zealot

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but psyker?

spice veldt
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well we have the illisi, and it's not like our effectiveness in melee is terrible

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infinite dodges make it very safe to aggressively push into ranged enemies with dodge slides, and you have this passive protection as long as you:re spamming dodges

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I find it very safe to be in melee until I dodge into a wall or accidentally corner myself

near wyvern
feral verge
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i'd take sniper resist over gunner resist every time yee

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but if i roll gunner resist on 1 curio, i wont complain

runic nest
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I can put Slaughterer II or Executor 3 on my Illisi

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Which one's better?

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(Still Slaughterer, right?)

spice veldt
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yup

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far far better than executor

runic nest
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Yeah, even at low levels.

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I'm farming my swords in the hope of finally getting Slaughterer 3 or 4...

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But I'm pretty okay with this one

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feral verge
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Dump block efficiency for infested

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That's a good sword

runic nest
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Thanks, will do!

faint vault
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Melk is offering bloodthirsty IV. Should I get it?

spice veldt
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if you use the illisi and/or like the novelty of it, then sure

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or if you're willing to live on the hopium that they'll buff it

leaden thunder
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it's a fucken t4 only

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it should be buffed

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for all weapons that can roll it

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let me have 100% crit chance chainsword cowards

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or at least like

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give it 50% for x seconds after the initial 100%

nimble burrow
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consecrated this to max and it looks based already

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viral solstice
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if u go bloodthirsty blazing spirit on this sword

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ur cool

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its just fact

quiet galleon
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is this good? does trauma have a dumpstat

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feral verge
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quell speed would be my dumpstat

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blast radius is important on trauma

quiet galleon
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thought as much

cloud sequoia
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Quell or warp resist

feral verge
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but that thing isn't horrible

prisma condor
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Good enough?

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spice veldt
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damage being my dumpster if you have at least 60%

feral verge
spice veldt
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I love dumpsters

feral verge
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and yeah it'll be good enough

vagrant frigate
spice veldt
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smh to the dumpster it goes

vagrant frigate
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:c

spice veldt
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i was referring to the trauma; i'd personally pick warp res as my dump stat on the purg so even harder into the dumpster it goes

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smh shake my head

vagrant frigate
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smhing my head

north cradle
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And here I was thinking "Yeah, Bloodthirsty Slaughterer Illisi would just be a meme machine of deleting enemies"

idle bay
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Rare case of store having somewhat decent Illisi

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So deflector to Slaughter and it's a killing machine. And Stmaina for whatever

vagrant frigate
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deflec will be good once they patch it

idle bay
vagrant frigate
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true yes

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unstable is amazing

idle bay
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We need mod that changes Charging sound for FS into rubbing something made of rubber, like twisting a clown-baloon and making a giraffe out of it 🙂

faint vault
feral verge
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i have the same sword

faint vault
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Had a feeling

feral verge
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if you wanted to enjoy the feeling of setting stuff on fire

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you're better off with shred

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instead of bloodthirsty

faint vault
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So, ideally, keep slaughterer and add bloodthirsty for even more lols.

feral verge
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and just lmb spamming

faint vault
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Yeah

radiant lance
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What blessings do you guys like on the Deimos?

feral verge
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the same on all force swords

faint vault
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Unstable power and slaughterer

feral verge
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unstable power and deimos

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oops

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i mean slaughterer

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unstable power and slaughterer*

radiant lance
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Does Unstable Power actually give you any breakpoints?

faint vault
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MOAR POWAH

feral verge
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its 20% more damage