psyker-class

[summer prairie]

It is

[wet belfry]

thats why we need the shotgun

[still hearth]

But uh

Autopistol stacks it in

3 shots anyway

So

[fierce sinew]

0<3

[still hearth]

True true

[fierce sinew]

(still bad)

[still hearth]

Pinning Fire is just too stupid tbh

[wet belfry]

no respite shotgun with quicken could have been a legit build

but no

[clear heath]

I only really like spamming BB with KB up
and i need BB for long ranged damage if i'm running surge/trauma
purg wants ab
idk what i'd run quicken with

[wet belfry]

Psyker doesnt have access to shotgun .-.

Despite us having the best synergies with it.

[summer prairie]

I think quicken is only good if you don't BB much and want it for the stacks

Like some gun builds

[still hearth]

I don't think Quicken is good

I think its okay

But I just find it more fun to use

[clear heath]

i think quicken would be funny for quell spam if you generate a lot of peril

[still hearth]

Its just impossible to keep it up with anything but BB

[clear heath]

lotta toughness from doing that too

[still hearth]

Unless you get super lucky

[summer prairie]

Maybe flurry trauma

[fierce sinew]

both of the other level 30 feats generate stacks rapidly in their own way and also give more utility

is the thing

[clear heath]

i would miss KB too much, but yeah that could work

[still hearth]

Yeah

Quicken should give you

full stacks

Every time

Or maybe double your stack cap too

Rebalance it

[timber shale]

quicken should clear a higher % of peril than the others

[fierce sinew]

now we're podracing

[still hearth]

Quicken just needs a bit more

Not a lot

But a bit more and it'd be very nice

[fierce sinew]

make quicken also add +4 to your charge cap or something

[clear heath]

they should make essence harvest give like an extra instant 5% or something per warp charged gained so you get some value out of the double charges from quicken

[still hearth]

Quicken doubling stacks and giving 2x charges would be nice, then just rework the CDR a bit.

[fierce sinew]

essence harvest should just stack instead of refresh, change my mind

[still hearth]

I agree

Maybe reduce it a bit but definitely make it stack

[clear heath]

sorry only vet gets this privilege

[still hearth]

AB into horde

Get 30 stacks

[clear heath]

if they did that and it synergized with quicken, would be interesting

[still hearth]

Regen 30% x 30

[fierce sinew]

I should be rewarded with toughness regen like we had for that one patch

for AB shouting

I earned it

I deserve

it

[still hearth]

Yeah

Make Psyker more broken

And then Zealot

Then Ogryn

Then make Difficulty 6

[fierce sinew]

you know 6 is coming, they won't let us kill bursters in one BB on the highest difficulty for long

[still hearth]

It'll be hell

Or

Hel

[kind jay]

we need a hardcore mode where if you die hadron turns you into a servitor

and then you get to fly around peoples games making them scan shit

[olive ember]

Finally someone gets me

Make everything op and then release new difficulty

Master plan

[clear heath]

Guesses on what they'd call it?

[still hearth]

Hel

That will be 6 or 7

For sure

[olive ember]

Extinction 🤔

[still hearth]

Annihilation is also good

So we have Sedition, --, Malice, Heresy and Damnation

What was second difficulty again?

[wet belfry]

I think even with the current buffs psyker actually is the worst class.

[olive ember]

Uprising

[still hearth]

What

Psyker is stronger than Zealot now

[olive ember]

Correct psyker needs more buffs

All the buffs

Screw zealot

[still hearth]

Its closer to Veteran than any of the other classes

[spice veldt]

10 charges on illisi activation

[still hearth]

[wet belfry]

Zealot has flamer, insane survivability.

[still hearth]

One weapon

Thanks

You mean Flamer is OP

Not Zealot

[wet belfry]

Their melee weapons arent either to sneeze on

[still hearth]

Psyker gets mini flamer

Oh they are now

When Psyker gets to play at 49% melee damage

For some fucking reason

[wet belfry]

Heavy sword mk 9 is amazing

[spice veldt]

eviscerator and th very top tier

[still hearth]

Like Zealot has so much trash

And the feats are mostly nothing

Its still good

But its definitely the worst class overall

If you ran S tier only

Then most classes were on a similar level before

And they still are

But if you consider it without S tier weapons and feats

Zealot has so much useless trash

[wet belfry]

I usally consider the classes with their best equipment

[olive ember]

Nah man

eviscerator is amazing

[still hearth]

That's not a great way to consider classes

[olive ember]

See funny sword go vroom vroom

[still hearth]

Though to be fair if you run

Recon and Claw

On Psyker

You're probably worse off than a Zealot

[olive ember]

Recon is good >.>

[vestal raven]

lol

[wet belfry]

By that point your anyways just intentioaly trolling yourself.

Might aswell remove all the feats.

Those are just a crutch

[vestal raven]

whats the actual point of the claw

[still hearth]

Well we need to buff things that are bad

And not just consider things that are strong

[timid storm]

Psyker feels super powerful IMO, not damagewise but CC is insane

[past parrot]

Running Claw is a flex

[still hearth]

Psyker definitely feels great atm

[timid storm]

^

[spice veldt]

quell speeds mean that we have very little downtime now

[still hearth]

Zealot feels like its missing a bit in its melee fantasy

[timid storm]

Zealot is super powerful too, idk why people say they arent

[still hearth]

Especially now that Psyker gets a power sword

With infinite dodges

[timid storm]

Oh true, but they arent weak IMO

[past parrot]

They’re just sad about the Hammer, they’ll get over it

[still hearth]

Oh yes

I'm not saying Zealot is weak

I'm saying overall they're the weakest class

Unless you only count the strongest builds

[timid storm]

Idk if I agree. I feel like zealot has the highest survivability

[still hearth]

It used to be the king of clutching

But now Psyker might be better at that

With Illisi

[vale creek]

what does the assasination boss music say?

[timid storm]

The toughness gain, and huge melee weapons + movespeed

[late yew]

What is AB?

[wet belfry]

All the classes seem pretty able to clutch

[past parrot]

Psyker has the nice benefit of solo passive toughness regen

[still hearth]

And Zealot survivability is at the cost of their most unique feature.

[wet belfry]

I probably couldnt with the ogryn? But thats a skill issue methinks.

[still hearth]

Ascendant Blaze.

[olive ember]

You see when I chose psyker I didn’t choose it because funny magic

[timid storm]

Wdym?

[olive ember]

I chose it for the super duper Star Wars swords

Kek

[vale creek]

ive chosen psyker cuz funny magic

[still hearth]

Thy Wrath Be Swift allowing you to ignore slowdown and stuns.

[past parrot]

I made a Psyker for the new swords too lol

[still hearth]

Which also keeps you alive from not being hit several times due to being stunned or slowed.

[vale creek]

hocus pocus everymeow dead

[timid storm]

How does survivability come at the cost of that

[still hearth]

Because it is in the same tier as their healing

[timid storm]

Ohh I see

[still hearth]

And at the moment Psyker dodges are as good if not better than Zealot

The only thing Zealot can avoid is melee hits

If you're at full toughness

[timid storm]

Imo, it's kinda like "choose which style you want, avoid hits or tank them"

Dodges are pretty standard for all classes

[spice veldt]

psyker has shorter dodges

[still hearth]

Except that you want to avoid hits anyway but Thy Wrath Be Swift lets you ignore some really annoying ones

[timid storm]

Yeah, so either "dodge more" or "tank them"

And dodges are meant to be a basic trait of each class, zealot is unique bc of survivability not dodges

[clear heath]

idk do you count stagger immunity allowing you to dodge more shit as dodging or tanking?

[still hearth]

Its definitely dodging.

But the issue is

Ogryn is just

Tankier all the time

Psyker can dodge insanely well and block bullets

[spice veldt]

deflector is meh, but the infinite dodges on our class melee is quite good

[wet belfry]

I honestly personally ignore deflector as a factor

Current default deflector is a bug

[idle bay]

I was not able to replicate staggering of Beast of Nurgle with Autogun in Meatgrinder. Most likely stagger i noticed in mission - he probably was just stuck.

[still hearth]

Seems likely.

[idle bay]

But at least his head wobble in funny way when you shot his mouth 🙂

[still hearth]

I mean I agree that Zealot can probably still survive the best

But Psyker is so close

And still gets to do its funky stuff

[clear heath]

yeah honestly if you ban flamer, zealot is probably in the worst spot rn

[still hearth]

Brauto, Autopistol and Shotguns are still broken

But

They're more broken on Vet

[clear heath]

yeah those aren't exclusive to zealot

L

[still hearth]

Heavy Sword is the one W Zealot gets

But other classes get Power Sword, Bull Butcher and Illisi

[clear heath]

heavy sword is still great
competing with illisi and power sword tho

[still hearth]

Which are about as good

Yeah

Even the wins that Zealot gets other classes also get.

So at this point I feel like Zealot is in a sore spot

[clear heath]

I used to think ogryn was the worst class for a while
but it's been in a pretty good state since the regen curio fix imo

[idle bay]

You completely disregard Latrine shovel because of it's limited cleave while being all-arounder ?

[still hearth]

Lul

Yes

[clear heath]

they're slowly killing zealot builds too

[still hearth]

Crit DR should've taken a hit

But so should Veteran DR

But alas

We decided not to hit Veteran

[clear heath]

lacerate nerfed, crit dr nerfed, thammer bugfixed

crit dr deserved it yes

[still hearth]

Lacerate nerf wasn't really much of an issue tbh

But bleed is too weak atm as well

[idle bay]

Zealots have to endure same treatment that psyker got since early beta until recently, nerf upon nerf upon nerf, and them massive rework and buffs all around 🙂

[still hearth]

It needs to just be more damage

[clear heath]

zealot used to be one of the better classes

but psyker got love

[still hearth]

It's less of a difference than before at least

[clear heath]

vet is still vet

[still hearth]

Psyker used to be so low

[vestal finch]

I hate the freak redemption arc

[gilded viper]

god slowest tAxe

[still hearth]

Pfff

[idle bay]

And apparently it pissed off some super-elitist that loved them nerfed 🙂 I made a topic on forum thanking devs for psyker buffs. Thread was dead for week and then some elitist-karkhead started complaining there about class being buffed , spewing skill-celling nonsense and stuff.... chuckles

[gilded viper]

people are weird

[still hearth]

People who played Psyker when they were shit

Enjoying new Psyker

And then some freaks enjoyed them being shit

[gilded viper]

then again im one of those people since i like slow quelling passive so i can keep up my high peril on gun psyker

[clear heath]

idk i do think it's stronger than it should be now

[gilded viper]

kinda hard to use WU now

[idle bay]

Some players just want other players to play in very specific way, or they are not allowed to play at all, bad, e.t.c. 🙂

[gilded viper]

send them this and end the convo there

it weird that people are so hard on trying to shoe hole psyker to being support only

[idle bay]

I enjoed Psyker in completely nerfed condition because i was using him a way that made all nerfs irrelevant 🙂

[spice veldt]

give me my peril glock

[clear heath]

laspistol

[spice veldt]

bullets don't use peril--rejected

[idle bay]

No-no... there should be STARTER Devil's Claw. And starter Laspistol, Green stamina curios. And final screed with score-board of Damnation-high 🙂

That will send him convulsing

[late yew]

What is the best way to deal with pox bursters/

[gilded viper]

[spice veldt]

push them

[fierce sinew]

purg left click

[gilded viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prACsHvK-xw&t=190s @idle bay is this close enough

[spice veldt]

make sure you have enough stamina for a full strength push

alternatively, run away from your team and let them handle it

[fierce sinew]

use purg left click because stamina doesn't matter

[idle bay]

All think may be just fake to made elitist loose his crap 🙂

[still hearth]

Watch it in like 2 years

They'll return to letting blessings stack

[fierce sinew]

(also BB works now)

[still hearth]

Because they run out of ideas

[ornate hamlet]

In a way that balanced the buffed WU, so it was kinda clever

[still hearth]

[idle bay]

Yes, Sibling! Its perfect!

[ornate hamlet]

Now psyker has to really edge that peril

blblblblbl

[gilded viper]

yeah kinda just annoying since most of the time im using non force weapon

[main oasis]

ffs finding blazing spirit on trauma is a hell of a deal

[still hearth]

I love edging

[ornate hamlet]

noooo tzeench knows about my browser history nooooo

[idle bay]

Thankfully innocent minds don't know yet 🙂

[still hearth]

And stroking the sword for peril is cool too

[clear heath]

put it on the other swords pls fatshark

[idle bay]

That is the best class feature ever 🙂

[clear heath]

i want to stroke my deimos

[idle bay]

It can be used as emote in mission! When someone talking shit - come close to him - look him in the eyes and start stroking the sword

You can even explode at the end to make your point clearer

Meanwhile recent reviews for Darktide are really close from getting to Mostly Positive. 65% recent positive ones. Which is heartwarming

[ornate hamlet]

ngl i have bought older games on sale for so long that i still find it hard to look at the money i spent here and recommend it

like vt2, which i got for free and bought all dlc for on sale

i think i didnt even spend a third of this games price

[olive ember]

Eh there are worse games to spend money on

Like back4blood

[ornate hamlet]

i suppose there are

like triple a garbage that works on the same formula everyone has already seen

namely ubisoft

or a barely different iteration of the same sports/racing game, like fifa and formula

[idle bay]

Ubisoft logo is a pile of..... view from up top 🙂

[olive ember]

Eh I personally prefer mid tier garbage from Ubisoft over the trash like Diablo immortal

[ornate hamlet]

i think the only credit ubisoft gets is their formula doesnt outright suck as entertainment and they do craft gorgeous environments

exploring the division 1 and 2 is jaw-dropping with how much environmental detail there is

[olive ember]

There’s like two games in hyped about rn tbh

[ornate hamlet]

its less bad and more just... repetitive

[olive ember]

One is darkswarm but that’s more cuz it’s being published by the people who made DRG

And the other is ffxvi

[ornate hamlet]

i think the only ff i played is xiii or xii

something like that, with the pink-haired girl

[shadow quail]

Haven't liked the newer FF's but this one looks like it might be alright

[olive ember]

Ff13

That’s like

Infamously bad XD

It’s the worst one of the entire series rip

Followed by ff15

[ornate hamlet]

imma be very onesto, i dont like turn-based games

it was mostly because my ex played the game

[olive ember]

Ff16 is gonna be like devil may cry, an arpg

[ornate hamlet]

she like lightning and i played a bit and was internally like "oh, its not a hack and slash"

[olive ember]

@ornate hamlet https://youtu.be/2bRy9qv2KE8

Ff16 ain’t turn based so that’s a plus for you I’d assume

[late yew]

My psyker has ascended

[autumn smelt]

this game is REALLY determined for me to not get the PoW elite kill penance

ive had 3 ragers literally huddled up on me, directly touching me when i blew up

didnt kill them, just knocked them down

malice difficulty and unarmored

[olive ember]

Ragers you gotta soften up with like a surge staff

[feral verge]

has to be shotgunners or gunners for 1 hit kill

[olive ember]

Also unarmored ragers have more base hp than armored ones

[feral verge]

make sure you dont have kinetic flayer on

because that can rob you of kills

happened to me

[autumn smelt]

team will kill them before i do that tho

happens every time

[olive ember]

Ah I had a premade so didn’t have to worry bout that

But yeah if you want to one shot without softening then it’s only possible on like shotgunners and gunners

[autumn smelt]

i only got one person on rn and theyre leveling a character

[olive ember]

Next best bet is like…. Armored ragers cuz even tho they are armored they have less base hp

Unless the explosion does reduced damage to armor? But shouldn’t of it one shots gunners and shot gunners

[autumn smelt]

now i just gotta wait for another high intensity shock trooper malice

[feral verge]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042832970211397735

go here

or wahtever region you live in

ask for help

lfg shieldgryn psyker going out with a bang penance

thats how i got my penances done

[autumn smelt]

mission type isnt what i need atm tho

[feral verge]

so

i did it without the mission type

its doable

you just need gunners or shotgunners

those spawn enough

[olive ember]

It’s jank but you basically have to push and stun lock a bunch of shotgunners n shit into the corner

And then do the funny kablooey

[ionic frost]

@autumn smelt throneside espionage mission, in the room with the elevator, the shotgunners never stop spawning

[autumn smelt]

there is a heresy up for throneside i could do

[ionic frost]

harder on heresy since they have more hp

it has to be the espionage mission tho

[autumn smelt]

it is

[ionic frost]

not the raid or w/e it is

ok

[stone pulsar]

while reading through the rpg book i found brain burst

[autumn smelt]

commsplex

[feral verge]

you wont 1 shot on that difficulty

[ionic frost]

you'll probably need to soften them up with a quick surge cast on heresy...so if you don't get it try that map on malice later =)

idk exactly how much you'd need to soften them up, or if the explosion benefits from the +25% damage feat...

[north cradle]

What about during a dog rush?

[autumn smelt]

bb would probably be too risky

i think it 1 shots gunner elites on heresy

[ionic frost]

@autumn smelt i think it's warp unleashed, +10-25% damage based on peril

not sure if that applies to perils of the warp

[north cradle]

Brain Burst kills Gunners and Shotgunners of all types on Damnation too, unmodded

[olive ember]

Dogs are specials

They don’t count towards penances

[ornate hamlet]

that it is

[north cradle]

Ah crap

[ornate hamlet]

i think the closest i owned to final fantasys turn-based style was white knight chronicles

where characters had their own bar that filled and not necessarily turns

[north cradle]

I liked the turn-based one more than the action time gauge

Gives me time to think about my attack

[olive ember]

Some final fantasies are like that too

[pearl lion]

We did it

[olive ember]

Congrats

[north cradle]

Noice

We did it Reddit

[olive ember]

I mean I was thinking about getting yakuza like a dragon

[north cradle]

Which one

Ah yeah

[olive ember]

But my aunt has it on PlayStation + so

I got tales of arise instead

[north cradle]

I don't have any subscription services myself

I just bought it during the Steam Spring Sale

[olive ember]

Been thinking about subbing to ffxiv but

I am poor

And also busy

[pearl lion]

I cant believe this is still unclickable

[north cradle]

I'd play RuneScape again and Final Fantasy 14 if they had lifetime subscription options

[olive ember]

There are mods for em

Don’t ask how tho I did it with a notepad

[fierce sinew]

modding community is goated

[olive ember]

XD

[north cradle]

I did that once because I was sitting at 6/7 for weeks

It was Repair, and was also the last one I tried

Every time

[olive ember]

F yeah I made the list before I started so I wouldn’t have to back track

I can’t be assed with doing penances on my alts tho so I have no clue what missions I need still for em

My ogryn is still 6/7 malice lmao

[rare furnace]

Lol I won so many damnations on my psyker I’m stack on level 1 hood penace 💀💀💀

I don’t know the map

[lilac tapir]

I remember doing a list and then I fund out it wouldn't count games where I joined mid-game and turned out my tracking was worth jack squat and had to start all over again 🙂

[olive ember]

Ah I went down the list so I didn’t quickplay

[pearl lion]

I just need that last mission and to complete like 20 more missions for t3 hood now

[olive ember]

Psyker malice hood tilted the fuck out of me

[lilac tapir]

sometimes it would still join me mid-game even without quickplay unfortunately 😦

[olive ember]

Cuz when I was running green gear I didn’t have the green trim hood

And then by the time I got the damn green trim hood I was wearing the black heresy armor

And then I didn’t have the black hood, so I was running the black heresy armor but with that fucking grim trim malice hood

[north cradle]

I guess you could say the penances vs the rewards were malicious

[olive ember]

tilt

[pearl lion]

I do love my drip

[olive ember]

Oh right there was also a period where there was a bug and you couldn’t get get a penance I forgot which one

[clear heath]

i don't bother putting effort into getting the penances that just involve normal gameplay
I just assume i'll get them eventually from just playing

like the 7/7 thing will just come with playing

[olive ember]

So I spent like 165k for the grey hood

And then 3 days later they patched the bug and I got my hood

tilt

[north cradle]

I've finished all the penances that require me to put effort into them. The final one was 15 missions on Malice without going down

[pearl lion]

I quite like this one, but Im not 100% on the pants

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2ucj7/when_the_server_crashes_right_as_i_finish_my_7th/

[olive ember]

Found the old Reddit thread

[clear heath]

nice clown pants

[pearl lion]

I think its more interesting than all black

[olive ember]

I was denied my hood for like a week >.>

Eh I just wear the heresy armor

I worked my ass off for them

I’m wearing em

Also I like the idea that I’m important enough to be given body armor

[vestal raven]

lol

[lilac tapir]

I'm at 13/15 for that one, kinda scary to do with randoms so I'm waiting for normal (no modifiers) or low intensity missions with scriptures as these usually get joined by more skilled players farming contracts rather than your usual random group that pulls DH.

[pearl lion]

I think the mask looks good with the monster killer armour

[olive ember]

Low int malice

Yeah that shit was bad

I legit only played low int malice for like 10 games straight

Another thing apparently is if you think you are about to go down or die for wte reason

Just alt F4

[leaden thunder]

yep

[lilac tapir]

last time I was 7/10 and I failed on the 8th because some dude shot a DH while I was sneaking past it and it immediately went for me....

[olive ember]

I still can’t tell if dh is damage based or proximity based

[gilded viper]

lasgun 4 is kinda nice, too bad i died like twice that mission KEKW

[olive ember]

So at this point it’s kinda just

/shrug

[lilac tapir]

so now I'm really careful and running a knife which is really easy to dodge DH with - turns out having that high mobility saved my ass more times than Antax V would (on that difficulty at least)

[olive ember]

Try a deimos, it’s got good dodges and literally infinite dodge count

[clear heath]

all this talk of penances reminds me
pain

[gilded viper]

BRUH

[lilac tapir]

will def try it after I finish that penance, not in the mood to experiment now when I'm so close haha 😄

[olive ember]

Best of luck and pray you don’t have literal bots

Or trolls that shoot barrels

[lilac tapir]

I really hate malice because of this penance, to the point where I probably won't play it again even for easy contracts...

[feral verge]

i got gone bowling retroactively

cuz i tried to do it before they made it easier

i got 77 out of 100 or however many it used to be

then they made it easier

and i logged in, got it instantly

in the mourningstar

[lilac tapir]

btw can someone explain to me the purpose of "Clean Force Blocking" mod? Appeared on Nexusmods yesterday

"Remove blocking and pushing effect of force swords."

[kind jay]

disables the bright effect on fs block

[lilac tapir]

what effects are they talking about - the visual ones?

aaah ok

so basically it's just a visual mod, just like the one that removes the flashing animations from the edges of your screen etc., got it

[olive ember]

Yea

[clear heath]

i gotta try that

hate how much blocking with fs obscures the screen

[solemn zenith]

ayyy nice got all the penances done, just have to play missions now

[late yew]

So which talent considered good on 25?

[feral verge]

what staff are you running

warp battery is good, especially with purgatus staff + ascendant blaze (level 30 feat)

[late yew]

Why battery is good for purgatus?

[feral verge]

.

it gives more power to ascendant blaze

[leaden thunder]

^

[late yew]

and i don't get why wildifre is not default for purgatus instead of battery

[feral verge]

with 6 stacks of warp charges from warp battery, when you use ascendant blaze ultimate, you will delete hordes

[leaden thunder]

6 stacks of soulblaze is enough to kill damnation shooters

[olive ember]

Cuz wildfire is overrated

[leaden thunder]

with ascendant blaze

[olive ember]

And battery is amazing

[late yew]

also i am level 25

[leaden thunder]

oh

[feral verge]

because wildfire is meh on purgatus

[late yew]

so no ult upgrade yet

[leaden thunder]

then not a whole lot matters rn

[feral verge]

it makes purgatus build 10% better

[leaden thunder]

psyker kicks off at 30

[feral verge]

whiel ascendant blaze makes purgatus build 80% better

wildfire is better on a trauma staff with the soul blaze critical blessing + warp nexus

[olive ember]

Which isn’t meta

Cuz meta for trauma is warp flurry + rending shockwave

[late yew]

What applies soulblaze aside from that 1 BB talent and purgatus?

[olive ember]

So wildfire is just kind of mid since it’s only actually useful in off meta

[feral verge]

.

[olive ember]

Ascendant Blaze at 30

[late yew]

i have not got to blessings yet

[olive ember]

And blazing spirit blessing but that blessing is again off meta

[feral verge]

reposting my build for you

i only play damn. high success rate. most successful build i got

[ionic frost]

If only trauma blazing spirit was 4+ stacks, and stacked up to 12+...then it'd be a lot better =)

[fiery atlas]

decent drip

how'd you get it?

[pearl lion]

The chest piece is from the most recent premium set. The hood is the grey mask one from the armoury. The pants are from the Brain burst multiple targets on Heresy+

[late yew]

does crit actually matter for purgatus?

[calm sapphire]

Any recommendations for melee weapons?

[pearl lion]

Illisi force sword all day

[leaden thunder]

either of the new force swords

[olive ember]

Literally anything besides claw sword

[olive ember]

Crit chance yes crit damage no

[feral verge]

big yes. when it crits , instead of putting 1 stack of soul blaze on a target, it puts 2

warp nexus and warp flurry are BIS for purga

[long osprey]

Is rending shockwave worth it on trauma staff?

[leaden thunder]

can be

[long osprey]

Otherwise I don’t know what to use

[leaden thunder]

you don't exactly have many good options for the second blessing

so for normal truama usage you either but rending shockwave or the uninterruptible on it

[olive ember]

It’s BiS but eh

Important one is flurry

Rending shockwave is just the 2nd best

[long osprey]

Melk offering a tier IV of rending for 2. 7k so just gonna but it

Buy*

Trying to collect all tier IV like they are pokemons

[olive ember]

Gl that’s gonna be hell

[long osprey]

I know but I’m already dead inside so I’ve got nothing to lose

[ionic frost]

you made a 5th toon already right?

[long osprey]

I’m waiting for when they roll out a new class

[ionic frost]

i made a 2nd psycker to get more blessings!

hit level 30 yesterday

[long osprey]

But got all 4 already, but I never play the veteran

[ionic frost]

4k melkbux on him

[long osprey]

Vet is kinda boring imo

[ionic frost]

i plan to delete him later and maybe make a 2nd ogryn

tho more char slots would be better

[late yew]

so remind me

after i hit 30, what do i do?

Just buy things from Melk?

What should i upgrade?

What i should reroll?

[ionic frost]

buy good greens/greys to upgrade

might get lucky with two tier IV blessings on it

[long osprey]

Farm mishs for emperor blessing weaps

[ionic frost]

some blues can be good...

getting the curios you want will cost a LOT of plasteel

[kind jay]

that's why you have to not want them

so you get them instantly

[feral verge]

im gonna try that

you know what would be fucking terrible and would suck so bad

if melk had a t4 unstable power in his shop

that would be the worst and awful

[hollow current]

god it'd be awful if that blessing got in the way of the guns im looking for on my psyker

[kind jay]

TODAY IS GONNA BE A GOOD DAY. this is my first dam game of the day and this is how i loaded in LOL

[tough mesa]

boutta hop on myself and prepare raid them 5 lvls

[ornate hamlet]

pikachu already missing you

sad days

yesterday my teammate clipped through the map twice somehow

one was when he was last alive

[tough mesa]

interesting ++ difficulty modifiers

[olive ember]

man looking at the old trailers

the atmosphere they convey is so much different to how the game actually plays

[velvet crescent]

psyker's turn to save my veteran's ass

Purgatus staff saved everyone's ass

me and another vet kept going down

[fresh reef]

vet dies to trash mobs
DH spawns next to their rescue
someone who went for the save aggro'd it
it kills fucking 3 of us, with the one who died to trash still alive
wipe

why

[olive ember]

clearly a skill issue

how did the dh kill 3 of you guys anyways

[lilac tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-down-my-cheek-bead-nervous-hot-gif-20243917

[orchid shadow]

Is there something I'm missing with Unstable Power? I have T3 version at 4% scaling with Peril. Is this another case of the tool tip being incorrect?

[clear heath]

yes

[olive ember]

t3 is 4% t4 is 5% per stack

[fresh reef]

no idea

[olive ember]

stacks 4 times

[feral verge]

it stacks 4 times

[olive ember]

it means one of the 3 the dh killed didn't actually die to dh

[feral verge]

at 20%, 40%, 60% and 80%

[fresh reef]

lul

[feral verge]

combine that with warp unleashed and you get 49% increased damage

combine that with in illisi that can do this

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042832970211397735

wrong link

[orchid shadow]

Well damn. That's insane.

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM

this is what i meant to share

you can spam charge illisi for instant peril gain

[orchid shadow]

Lol, that never gets old.

[feral verge]

the one in this video has 41 peril resist

the lower the better

provides dmg when needed, and toughness when needed

also, the power gained from unstable power, or even slaughterer will increase the distance of the force sword push

very useful for poxbursters

[leaden thunder]

that works on any melee btw

[feral verge]

i dont get hit by them anymore, unless they get in that rare unstaggerable state

[leaden thunder]

any melee that you can boost power on can get some pretty insane shoves

[olive ember]

but @leaden thunder what about the ironhelm

[steep shuttle]

Is there a bug where force swords automatically come with Deflect?

because my force swords are blocking bullets without that blessing

[olive ember]

the two new force swords have it built in

[feral verge]

just for illisi and deimos

[steep shuttle]

that seems...

like it will go away

[olive ember]

because the new force swords are based off old code from the CBT

before they stripped the block bullets function off the FS and slapped it on an arbitrary blessing

and yeah its probably a bug

[cold geode]

ugh, i have to play my vet to get his weeklys done

[feral verge]

rip

[lilac tapir]

that feeling when you can go back to Heresy/Damnation 😄

and not care about random crash or disconnect or loading into failed mission ruining your streak...

[spring fern]

grats! Ya I just finished this yesterday. so refreshing now

[lilac tapir]

thanks, being under a constant stress of not only random players killing you by destroying a barrel or pulling a DH but also the game crashing/disconnecting was not fun, glad to be done with it!

[olive ember]

You did it!

One of the more annoying penances done

[lilac tapir]

the next question is... can this be done with Voidstrike into horde or do I have to/easier to use a gun instead?

[olive ember]

I think I got that by using an ogryn stubber into a horde

[lilac tapir]

hmm, what if I don't have alts - only playing psyker atm and don't time to level another char 🙂

[fresh steeple]

I did that on Heresy, for at least a fair number of missions. Very nerve-wracking

[fresh reef]

anyone else here run Warp Absorption with Trauma?

[fresh steeple]

definitely steered clear of damnation during, though

[olive ember]

Ehh Quietitude is kinda broken nowadays with how fast you quell

Before yes

[feral verge]

wouldnt dream of using warp absorption with trauma

cuz quietitude

[fresh reef]

While true, I've kinda fallen out of love with Quietude
My main source of regen coming from Quelling just feels..off, somehow

[fresh steeple]

I knew there was something fucky with my quell speed. Completely forgot that they rolled out that doubling effect in the last patch. Only played Zealot since patch launch.

[fresh reef]

lately been running Essence with Illisi/Void and just picked up Absorption with Deimos/Trauma

[lilac tapir]

Although I feel that the whole ordeal did make me a better player though, at least in the defensive aspect and generally more aware of what's going on around me and constantly looking around for possible threats 🙂

[fresh steeple]

certainly does

I got the "take no damage" penance at the same time that I was doing it

failed it several times due to that dumb Pox Hound 1-damage bleedthrough

glad they fixed that, but a bit late for me to care I guess

[lilac tapir]

oh how I wish it was fixed back several weeks ago when I was doing that one haha 😄

[olive ember]

That was fixed?

[fresh steeple]

yup

[olive ember]

Huh cool

[fresh steeple]

okay, make me stop putting my Trauma staff in a corner.

Assume +8 Brittleness as one feat. What do you take as second: Surge, Warp Flurry, or Warp Nexus?

[leaden thunder]

flurry

flurry is the main one anyway

[clear heath]

agree

[leaden thunder]

the brittleness is just for support generally

[fresh steeple]

but of course

that's the whole point of it! XD

doesn't exactly help your own damage. But it's such a nice source of rend for teammates

[leaden thunder]

it'll help if you swap to your melee and maybe some like soulblaze fuckery(but idk why you'd have soulblaze stuff and rending shockwave) but otherwise yea

[fresh steeple]

my hypothetical build for it is 311211

[fresh steeple]

I do have Soulblaze available, but yeah, I don't see the point in it on a staff that doesn't have Nexus

can't get the crit high enough

I want to be able to use Surge, but I feel the same way about that: Not worth it without Nexus

[still hearth]

The issue with Rending for allies

Is that if they're good players they aren't targetting armor with bad armor pen weapons

[leaden thunder]

I told my team I had it

[still hearth]

And there's no way to tell enemies are Rended

[leaden thunder]

and I still don't know if they used it

and I have health bars on

[still hearth]

Even if they know its also just ingrained that you don't shoot Carapace with lasguns (except when they do it anyway)

[clear heath]

well, at least you can clean up that lone crusher that everyone is meleeing to death slightly faster

[fresh steeple]

counterpoint: fights are hectic, and +8 "free" rending" on multiple chunky targets in Damnation is pretty nice because you can't always play optimally

[clear heath]

i mean people actively avoid hitting crushers with low pen weapons usually

and for like flak enemies i'm not sure how often it'll even save you a hit

[still hearth]

It can be sometimes pretty nice and most of the time it does barely anything*

Like most weapons have close to 100% damage to the common armor types

[clear heath]

it'll help that weirdo trying to fight a crusher with their taxe

[edgy finch]

Dump stat gone too far? or a worthy investment

help me decide lol

[olive ember]

both per and blessing are pbad

mobility is dump but idk about a 20 role ngl

[clear heath]

not worth it at this point imo

[edgy finch]

thats what im feeling lol, 24 seems excessive lmfao

sigh, maybe melk will have something nice for me in 54 minutes

[clear heath]

if you had gotten like anything worth caring about from blessing or perk, i'd say maybe consider trying it

but like you could probably just get a grey from brunts and get something with not shit mobility in a few attempts

[edgy finch]

Limited resources, finding good weapons for all my characters is my "end game" so im not in a rush for it

[still hearth]

Warp Resistance the real dump

Get that high peril

[clear heath]

i dream of getting a fs with low warp res and high everything else

game keeps giving me mobility dump

[olive ember]

"warp Res is the dump stat" inb4 they revert quelling changes and suddenly all your force swords are bricked

[clear heath]

even if it was back to the way before

[olive ember]

mobility still dump stat imo besides the deimos

[clear heath]

i would still dump warp res

[olive ember]

eh

[clear heath]

I dumped warp res on obscurus

i've been using quietude this whole time anyways

as long as it's not like literally 0 and generating 45 peril per use

i'm fine with like 30 peril per use

[lilac tapir]

btw is it just me or is it weird that the melk refresh moved by 1h with summer time? I've never seen a game timer change with summer/winter time before... I always thought things like WoW server restarts etc. generally happen at set time regardless of summer/winter time?

[fresh steeple]

daylight savings

though I feel like it should be synced back again

[lilac tapir]

yea which in some areas of the world is called summer time (where I'm from we call it like that)

[fresh steeple]

Sweden starts DST a few weeks after the US

[lilac tapir]

exactly, it's weird to me that melk reset moved moved to 2 AM CET

things like that are usually set to specific time in games and don't move to different time when summer/winter time changes 🙂

[weak sapphire]

Should I change Warp nexus to anything. Also I dont want to talk about the locked in dmg vs carapace armored enemies.

[fresh steeple]

they do when it's in a different country with different time observations

otherwise from Swedish players' perspectives, it would have shifted forward an hour for two weeks

[fresh steeple]

Purg can't crit, so yes

[clear heath]

purg applies double stacks on crit

[fresh steeple]

some value, then?

that's interesting to know

[lilac tapir]

I still don't get it tbh - isn't Sweden and the rest of Europe on the same daylight savings schedule (unlike US which switches to daylight savings couple of weeks earlier than EU)?

[clear heath]

yeah i think nexus is pretty nice on purg

I've seen a few games not account for daylight savings

[fresh steeple]

are you in an EU country?

I didn't really make a specific distinction. Figured it was accurate enough to say "Sweden" instead of "Sweden, like all other EU countries"

[lilac tapir]

I am, it's 1:18 AM here, I'm in CET

[fresh steeple]

an oddity to be sure, then. I can no longer provide a good answer

all I know is that it shifted an hour later on my end with DST and I thought nothing of it because that's commonplace with games made in the EU or China

[near wyvern]

Flurry Nexus is BiS for Purge

[clear heath]

it's nexus/flurry for purg right?

[weak sapphire]

Ok thank you all guys involved in discussions regarding my staff.

Ill just upgrade the rank of it then 🙂

[robust relic]

My Deimos has these perks...which should I reroll into flak?

[lilac tapir]

I guess I haven't noticed this behavior before in other Games then 🙂 It was weird for me because for example WoW server maintenance (another game which I used to play a lot) is still at the same time as it was before DST.

[fresh steeple]

t2 unyielding. alas.

[robust relic]

I know 😦

[fresh steeple]

WoW servers are synchronized to particular timezones outside of the US iirc

they do that deliberately

because the maintenance of other server clusters is different than those of the US server clusters

[near wyvern]

It's probably defined as UTC so it doesn't move. 2AM CEST = 1 AM CET

Which is UTC+1

[fresh reef]

what should I change here?

[ornate hamlet]

both perks 😔

[fresh steeple]

the stamina

[clear heath]

i'd change sprint eff

[fresh steeple]

I'd rather lose one stamina than sprint efficiency. The second is at least... something?

[fresh reef]

stamina and not sprint efficiency?

[fresh steeple]

but they're both horrible

so flip a coin

shame about them perks

[clear heath]

stam effects peril block btw

[ornate hamlet]

with 78 mobility, i think sprint efficiency can be tossed

stamina affects block and sprint, sprint affects only sprint

[lilac tapir]

that might be it actually

[fresh steeple]

oh?

then sprint efficiency

I never noticed my stamina being affected at all when using KD

[clear heath]

100% of your peril is equivalent to 4x your max stamina if you're wondering

[fresh reef]

man

[kind jay]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-recreation-tv-show-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-throwing-away-computer-gif-17541708

[ornate hamlet]

wait, does that apply to bb and staves as well?

[fresh steeple]

so you're telling me I should put a +3 stam on my Psyker for easier 90% balancing

[clear heath]

no only for blocking

[ornate hamlet]

aw

bad game

[fresh steeple]

^ agreed

no more stam curios

[fresh reef]

POG

hope I don't brick this one

[clear heath]

if you stack a shitload of stamina with kinetic deflection, you can block a silly amount of stuff

not that it's a good build or anything

just a funny gimmick

[fresh steeple]

I stopped caring about KD when they nerfed my passive regen for Daemonhost tanking

that was such a fun thing to do

and they RUINED it

maybe they unruined it with the new patch?

[fresh reef]

they reverted it to prenerf values, basically

so it should be possible

[fresh steeple]

wow, bot silenced me

[clear heath]

well kd still pauses your passive quell doesn't it?

[leaden thunder]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1089595344335151205/zealot_sploinky.gif

[clear heath]

so you have to actually dodge

[fresh steeple]

hardly an issue

[clear heath]

for like a second

[fresh steeple]

their attacks are very telegraphed

the problem before was that they ruined passive quell values on weapons, not that they halted quelling from a block. At least imo

it's what made me go back to force swords

[clear heath]

yeah but it's less funny if i have to move

[fresh steeple]

agreed, less funny. But effective again

[near wyvern]

DFS can dodge faster than people can sprint so yeah, you can still tank her.

[leaden thunder]

you pretty much always could

[near wyvern]

You just got to be able to move a bit for dodging

[leaden thunder]

just not by standing still

[clear heath]

how's the base block eff on the new force swords btw?

[near wyvern]

Knife was the previous tank mode

[near wyvern]

Good enough

[clear heath]

are they better/worse than the obscurus?

or the same?

[leaden thunder]

I had to do it with a power sword one time

[near wyvern]

No idea, probs the same

[leaden thunder]

that was unpleasant to have to do

had to tank one for far too long on my vet

[sharp lava]

Are all force sword blessings held in common?

[clear heath]

yes

[sharp lava]

So if i rip a blessing from a Mk 5 I can use it on Mk 2?

[clear heath]

yup

[exotic tulip]

Do the new swords not need kinetic deflector or did they change to original too?

Or does the feat block ranged damage now?

[near wyvern]

@fresh steeple

#psyker-class message

[sharp lava]

Opinion on best purgatus staff blessings?

Presumably warp nexus is a bit pointless

[leaden thunder]

warp nexus and flurry

are the best two

[near wyvern]

Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry is best in slot

[sharp lava]

faster charge, right?

Does nexus affect the purgatus dot then?

[near wyvern]

Faster change and increased crit chance

[clear heath]

crits apply 2 stacks

[sharp lava]

Ah nice, so fast stacks

[fresh steeple]

is this about Trauma?

[sharp lava]

Purg

[fresh steeple]

you linked that suicide video based on what I clicked

[sharp lava]

Same question for Deimos FS btw; presumably the deflection talent + ... ?

[fresh steeple]

but I already corrected myself that if crits apply 2 stacks, it's a good roll on Purg

[feral verge]

Slaughterer and unstable power for force swords is my go too

For a 'normal' build

[alpine pulsar]

"normal"

[fresh steeple]

at the moment Deimos and Illusi have Deflection baked in

it's certainly a bug. The question is how long they take to fix that bug.

[sharp lava]

Oh, so having the talent on it is pointless right now?

[feral verge]

The new swords have deflector built in. A bug, most likely

[alpine pulsar]

Hopefully never.

[feral verge]

Aye

[leaden thunder]

blessing

not talent

kinetic deflection isn't built in

deflector is

[fresh steeple]

sorry, yes. That

[near wyvern]

Well there is some block cost reduction but in any case it is surely gonna get fixed next patch. At least we can enjoy it first for a couple months.

[fresh steeple]

Deflector*, not Deflection

but we were all talking about the right thing

[hollow steeple]

okay emps, thanks
but I really don't want to be the ammo-hoovering psyker lol

[near wyvern]

Just slap on + power from stagger and your 4 stack AB will kill everything except ogryns, mutants and dogs when you shoot after AB

[clear heath]

i'm aiming for deflector anyways cause i assume a fix is coming

[near wyvern]

Instead of Cavalcade

[hollow steeple]

no, I know it's cracked
I just like my staves lol

[fresh steeple]

Aim for the ability to roll on Deflector, obvs

[worthy jewel]

Am I correct in thinking Voidstrike with Nexus and Surge is really strong? I haven't got Surge yet but it looks like a really solid Combo

[near wyvern]

Meh. Warp Flurry + Transfer Peril is where it really shines.

[worthy jewel]

good to know.

[near wyvern]

Shooting twice every sixth shot versus shooting forever without quelling at around 30-40% faster when you factor in the shooting animation as well.

[worthy jewel]

makes sense

[fresh steeple]

I've thought the same thing, Ulf. But I haven't been able to test it because I keep getting Surge only on Trauma staves

but yeah, I feel like the crit+soulblaze meme staff, while amusing, doesn't carry enough weight by itself, and surge is too inconsistent except perhaps on the Surge staff itself

[worthy jewel]

I got Transfer on a Trauma.

I imagine between staves don't share Blessings

[fresh steeple]

I've long debated whether it's worth full-charging Voidstrike if you have transfer, or just rapid-firing it

[near wyvern]

You can get some fun out of Warp Nexus + Blazing Spirit on void strike if you use a quell cancel macro but the DPS is still a bit meh because of the 6 stack hidden limit of Staff Blazing Spirit

[weak sapphire]

@worthy jewel Have you been driving for TNT

[worthy jewel]

TNT?

[weak sapphire]

Nevermind. You very so similar to an old work assosciate 😄

Associate

[worthy jewel]

aha lmao

[fresh steeple]

fukkin what

[tropic pollen]

for trauma staff, what's my priority perks? flak and ?

[fresh steeple]

no wonder I've been disappointed with my recent tests with it. And I was so excited to finally get both together.

[plush glacier]

unarmored imo

[worthy jewel]

well I did just roll Nexus and Blazing on my latest Voidstrike

[plush glacier]

for trauma

[fresh steeple]

6 stacks. Absurdity.

[worthy jewel]

[fresh steeple]

any opinions on this?

[near wyvern]

The thing with void is the projectile procs it and the explosion procs it, so the enemy that stops the blast and gets hit by the projectile will get 6 stacks and you can't increase it further on it.

[willow hazel]

Doesn't 6 stacks just kill everything though?

[worthy jewel]

well I imagine the ideal would be to max stack on a Boss which can take multiple VS hits

[near wyvern]

"But what about Wildfire? It must be good on that, right?"

Wildfire has a hidden cap of 4 stacks. If a target has more than 4 stacks of Soulblaze, it can't get any stacks from nearby dying enemies. Since void often applies 6 stacks on a very small radius... Not good.

[worthy jewel]

time to see if Milkman gibes anything neat

[near wyvern]

All trash yes and almost half of mauler HP but it takes 8 seconds to tick.

[worthy jewel]

does Voidstrike do better with Flak or Maniac? I'm locked to Unyielding on my latest Staff.

[fresh steeple]

like, 6 total across all targets, instead of 6 per target

yeah, this explains a lot. Not even remotely worth running with such a low cap

the whole idea of it is to get blazes on multiple targets. What a waste. 😦

[clear heath]

wait soulblaze from blazing spirit counts towards the cap for wildfire?

[near wyvern]

6 per target. Blazing Spirit on a staff cannot increase nor refresh the duration of soulblaze stacks if the target has 7 or more stacks of Soulblaze

My dudes you gotta start reading the Atheneum (link in pinned messages)

[feral verge]

melk time

[willow hazel]

@near wyvern But it's constant damage and you just staggered and chunked whatever you hit. By the time it stands up they should be dead. Like if you see fire you don't need to attack it, because it will just die.

[clear heath]

i just assumed different sources had separate caps

[near wyvern]

Wildfire targeting mechanics are in Atheneum

[feral verge]

if i got unstable power 4, that would be the worst of the worst. i'd hate that so much. i'd hate it if that happen

[near wyvern]

No. There is only 1 soulblaze effect. It's shared among players as well and the player who applies the first stack gets the ownership (buffs based on this player) as long as the target has soulblaze running on them, no matter who else increases the stacks.

[feral verge]

i've asked this before i think, but forgot the answer

[clear heath]

damn i would have assumed it would the last player

[near wyvern]

Ahh yes but then again you would do more DPS with just flurry peril void so...

[feral verge]

are soulblaze stacks and regular fire stacks (from zealot flamer) seperate? can you stack both on one target?

[near wyvern]

Haven't tested but they deal different damage per stack (regular fire does like 60% more damage) so they are likely separate.

[feral verge]

okay melk

[feral verge]

thanks homie

[cold geode]

melk got dat no respite 4 for me today ooooo

[near wyvern]

I am jealous

[feral verge]

i am gonna try it on my illisi

tho i still want unstable 4

[near wyvern]

You have blazing spirit 4 on it?

[karmic copper]

@worthy jewel i always do maniac on my melee anyway. I use flak and im sure ive read flak is standard across for melee and ranged. If i was at pc id check mine. Im only responding because your comment got skipped past. Remember you can go and talent up in psykanium and run some quick tests without xhanging it. See what a full charge zero peril vs full charge 80%+ peril does to the 3 flak in a row without 25% flak. Would another slab of damage tip it over the kill threshold?

[feral verge]

exorcist

[near wyvern]

Exorcist is bad

Doesn't proc on specials

[feral verge]

ik it doesnt

i like it as a little bit of extra peril quelling for generating toughness from quietitude

this is that illisi

gonna throw that bloodthirsty on it

give it a shot

[clear heath]

what is with this game sometimes saying elites when it means specials+elites, and sometimes meaning elites only

[worthy jewel]

s'what I've been using on my other Voidstrike as well, figured I'd ask rq if Maniac might be a handier Breakpoints for Flamers/Trappers on Damn.

Also, fuckin Milk offered nothing but guns and a mediocre Deimos.

[near wyvern]

Bloodthirsty+Slaughter is probably the highest horde clear Illisi one can make

[feral verge]

i got this too

but this is my hordeclear illisi

[near wyvern]

It's codenamed Sour Milk for a reason

[clear heath]

i've heard they nerfed bloodthirsty to just one swing after the special

that true?

[feral verge]

which i dont need on my main build (purga)

[near wyvern]

This one would be on steroids with Bloodthirsty

[worthy jewel]

worthless on my Pal as well, sigh

[feral verge]

before i put bloodthirsty on anything

ig i'll waste my resources trying to roll unstable 4

[kind jay]

hadron ruined this one real quick but this is the one ive been using since patch

[near wyvern]

Unstable 4 is nice on Deimos

It's funny with surge cause when a mutant charges you you can zap into tap tap and it's gone

But even with Trauma and Purge you usually always have some peril going on so just dodge to left near a wall and double tap the head to delete

[kind jay]

is anything more satisfying than the stars aligning and you deimos h2 headshot a mutant with full stacks and it dying instantly

[clear heath]

Do you even need unstable to do that?

[feral verge]

this 325 grey has potential

[ionic frost]

Suggestion for Deflection: Let force swords block bullets normally...let Deflection block bullets while interacting with things...win-win.

[near wyvern]

Depends on rolls I think

[clear heath]

my obscurus could already oneshot headshot mutants without unstable
I would think deimos could as well

[ionic frost]

It'll restore Deflection's old clutch potential...reviving those stupid teammates out of position. =D

[near wyvern]

We talking about special or light into heavy2?

Cause I am talking about light into heavy2

[clear heath]

oh i just meant with one special heavy

idk what the damage combo is on deimos

[near wyvern]

Light into the second heavy deals more damage than a special, is faster and doesn't animation lock you

You only use special for lone elites

On Deimos

[feral verge]

not that rare, and meh blessing, but nice to see a t4 blessing on a blue brunt store wep

[clear heath]

well if it's doing more damage than the special as you say, it should work fine

[kind jay]

ez

[feral verge]

t4 executor agian, but on a lowly 325 hmm

bloodthirsty...

give me unstable damnit

this is making me unstable

[ionic frost]

@feral verge nice...

[feral verge]

riposte 4

im gonna get every t4 but unstable

sons of bitches

wow im on a t4 blessing roll here

[ionic frost]

Imagine if T4 Riposte was +100% crit chance for 1 swing...

[feral verge]

PLEASE UNSTABLE 4

[ionic frost]

no time limit...

[feral verge]

DEFLECTOR 4

LMAO

20K plasteel down the drain

no unstable 4

but atleast i got a bunch of other blessings

all these force swords, lost to time, like tears in the rain

[cold geode]

GG

[feral verge]

i can put deflector 4 on my shieldgryn sword

[nocturne parrot]

Melk just made me happy

might swap +Maniacs for Stamina, First target is too low to one-tap Muties with a regular heavy unfortunately

[autumn smelt]

pushing a trapper should actually stagger them, change my mind

[cold geode]

pinning fire staggers them good

[autumn smelt]

my point is if a trapper rounds a corner and is literally RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, you should be able to push them and cancel their net, considering that range isnt dodgable

[nocturne parrot]

it still annoyes me that if you F them, they get staggered but shoot anyway

as a zealot

[olive ember]

If they are right in front of you just hit them

They are rly easy to stagger

[autumn smelt]

ive tried everything every ttime it happens

hitting, pushing, psyker ult, nothing actually stops the trapper from shooting the net theyre charging

[olive ember]

Idk I stop em often

I think you might be hitting late cuz Ik one of their animations gives them stagger resist I believe

But yeah I literally run up to trappers and melee em for fun sometimes

And they are def staggerable

[fierce sinew]

this sounds like a lag issue

[nocturne parrot]

could be

[clear heath]

F is really buggy sometimes

I've had it not push things, or push things towards me

[kind jay]

happens with surge too

its real bs

[clear heath]

surge blasting poxbursters into my face is really funny

[fierce sinew]

when you can count the tick rate on your fingers anything with high displacement in a short amount of time tends to behave interestingly

I wouldn't be surprised if at very close range the server had you in the net before your client saw the shot at all

in laggy conditions

[kind jay]

my favorite is surging a dog when they do space program and you just see lightning going up to the moon

ima BB zeus himself

yaaaaas

this performed like a mofo in hi5

in a good way

[rare furnace]

I want force sword that can electrocute stager lol

Since we have one with fire

Blessing

[kind jay]

that's what the staff special should do. charge your melee to do something based on your staff

[rare furnace]

Wry nice idea

But it does 5 damage

Close attack

[kind jay]

lol thanks

[restive slate]

Staff special should be a cc repelling near enemies

[rare furnace]

Yeah like have you ever killed ant#thing by attacking with stuff special giving it the stick does nothing

We also can peril and hit so no extreme circumstances happen