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#psyker-class
topaz sable
my brain says "that's still really strong" but the heart says "the power sword lasts ~3"
shadow quail
After getting my powercycler 4 PS, im having trouble coming to terms with any melee weapon tbh
topaz sable
After getting my powercycler 4 PS, im having trouble coming to terms with any me...
At least when I'm using a non-giga cleave weapon my brain stops comparing them
shadow quail
I charge it once, horde dies like 7 swings, PS is so strong.
topaz sable
Though I've been loving the DFS, especially with the + dodge distance and infinite dodges + deflector it feels silly lol
austere estuary
notice also the rager dying to a non charged heavy even
topaz sable
PS is busted tbh, pretty sure vets still get more toughness back than everyone else on melee kills too
austere estuary
illisi is ridic
shadow quail
Psyker used to have PS 😢
topaz sable
damn you're killing the ragers in one hit
steel flame
Think of it as a power buff with warp unleashed. Keep charging it after every attack and the stronger it gets
topaz sable
Wish I could get slaughter for it
I burned an absurd bank of plasteel trying to get certain blessings for several weapons and had such shit luck
austere estuary
I got slaughterer 4 from emprah gift I think it was
topaz sable
That's the best way to get blessings. Tonight it's literally just guns + axes
austere estuary
this illisi was from the regular credit store as a blue with exorcist on to begin with I think
tbf melk did just offer me bloodthirsty and unstable power IV
topaz sable
blowing through plasteel to research blessings is actually just not worth, just have to wait for it in store or limited aquis
pine relic
I'm still using KB or AB on gun psyker
shadow quail
Melk needs to sort his shit out
pine relic
the problem with quicken is if you use F you just lose all the wrap charges.
steel flame
Thats the best part. Quicken makes every instance that gives a warp charge give 2 now
steel flame
You get your charges back almost as soon as you lose them
pine relic
And why would I need that if I have kinetic flayer and KB?
shadow quail
illisi more busted than I thought
show us
pine relic
You basically will never lose wrap charges with those two feats
and also deals more damages
austere estuary
just getting vid now
long osprey
With quicken and trauma and psychic communion I get 6 charges constantly and can spam ult with barely any recharge
Trauma staff*
left basin
so uh yah
steel flame
I love quicken now. Opens ups loads of high peril builds
long osprey
It generate charges really quick
austere estuary
obscurus better horde clear than deimos, better vs ogryns than illisi
but personally
I mean
illisi overall seems top to me
esp if you're using warp unleashed
spice veldt
spice veldt
very important on the force swords
pine relic
Illisi is always preferable because you want to cut through specials and elites within the horde.
spice veldt
since the weakspot multiplier scales from 1.5 to 2.5, and it also affects attack speed
cyan notch
important on sissy
hypno
left basin
okay i'm running a moronical warp unleashed cerebral wbatt kb with sissy
what second
i've got a funky
pine relic
Deimos can two-shot a mutie in base state, but it's still a very slow process.
pine relic
You can't.
left basin
you can'tn't
wide tiger
Guess i can make a flame sword:
stable silo
go all in the crit reroll manic to crit chance and exec to shred and become the man u were born to be
shadow quail
What sword you guys running for the purg?
stable silo
i just wanna know if its quicken or kB for voidstrike build i tried quicken unsure about it
wide tiger
pine relic
Guess i can make a flame sword:
Unless it's a T4 Blazing spirit.
wide tiger
Does t4 blazing spirit exist? didnt know
stable silo
3 stax instead of 2
pine relic
I don't know but T3 damage sucks.
spice veldt
yup; it's +4 stacks up to 12 stacks
austere estuary
something you can do with exorcist and illisi
wide tiger
ah
austere estuary
this is with 0 stacks of slaughterer
wide tiger
Without power stacking, im wondering if is hould do unarmoured over maniac
austere estuary
if you were coming off of stacks from something else, you can two shot him
wide tiger
because non-slaughterer is so bad
shadow quail
for my purg build?
topaz sable
something you can do with exorcist and illisi
that's actually crazy, I never thought of that combo
since it's a big cleave weapon, just aim head height and at least one attack will always be a weakspot hit
have to give up deflector though D:
cyan notch
i feel like maybe psyker is maybe a little bit too strong now? this is me just using illisi and bb and a revolver that i barely fired and we had 2 flamers also
pine relic
that's actually crazy, I never thought of that combo
Do you really want to stay in a state of 100% peril during an actual fight
wide tiger
pretty much the exact same thing
gilded viper
i feel like maybe psyker is maybe a little bit too strong now? this is me just u...
no psyker need to be stronger
wide tiger
i dont have the screenshot anymore
gilded viper
that higher we get the harder we fall 
shadow quail
Vets still stronger imo
austere estuary
why though
fierce sinew
i feel like maybe psyker is maybe a little bit too strong now? this is me just u...
I was saying before the patch that aside from specifically bolter we were competitive or better in damage terms
and this buff is enormous
topaz sable
Do you really want to stay in a state of 100% peril during an actual fight
I mean, if you're in melee, why not?
even if you mess up, just pop ult
spice veldt
and since quelling is so extremely fast now
shadow quail
has anyone tried blazing spirit on the lllisi, doesn't seem to be working?
fierce sinew
it low key reminds me a little bit of the toughness regen thing, like I'm playing thinking "they can't have meant to juice it this hard"
clear heath
I feel like they forgot to test with blessings on
austere estuary
I had this happen from a run where I basically only used illisi and mostly spammed lights without thinking too hard
fierce sinew
it's not blessings, it's warp unleashed
topaz sable
I feel like they forgot to test with blessings on
I think the main problem is most +power blessings are probably too strong
cyan notch
maybe theyre letting us go nuts before damnation 2
gilded viper
someone convice me to stop playing psyker and try the new weapons on zealot
shadow quail
Weapon*?
clear heath
someone convice me to stop playing psyker and try the new weapons on zealot
i cannot
pine relic
Scoreboard is working now? I installed it but can't see the actual scoreboard at the end of the mission.
cyan notch
yiou have to update it
cold geode
you need animation events and ui extensions for it to work
manic halo
Wouldn't bother with the new hammer
shadow quail
new hammer is bad
fierce sinew
like if you told me before the patch that we'd be running around today with up to 12 warp charges worth of buff I would have laughed in your face
but here we are
manic halo
I mean its perfectly useable but its got some jank imo
gilded viper
oh 😦
manic halo
pyers weapons are way cooler
gilded viper
zealot stay losing i guess
austere estuary
tbh it's not far off from where we were when we could swap blessings over weapons
spice veldt
classic zealot L
clear heath
hammer players losing in general
manic halo
it aint too bad shot guns are sexu
gilded viper
want to play the new shotguns tho, but 😛
clear heath
they removed the animation cancel
fierce sinew
zealot glowup has to be soon right
gilded viper
they removed the animation cancel
no lie i thought they remove it two patches ago
manic halo
I just wish blessings crossed over to different marks
cyan notch
u really dont need a ranged weapon you have omega buffed melee with omega buffed bb with ab + wildfire i find myself not using ranged much
manic halo
I want zealot myatrodom changes or somethun
austere estuary
I just wish blessings crossed over to different marks
I mean they do with things like force swords
clear heath
wtf
austere estuary
wow
clear heath
do they actually have different blessings?
austere estuary
that almost seems like oversight
fierce sinew
I just wish blessings crossed over to different marks
blessings are shared between marks, they don't cross over to different patterns+variants
pine relic
I think I only saw five hammer zealots after the patch and none of them were using the old hammer.
gilded viper
even axes carry ovver and some have diff names
pine relic
feels bad
clear heath
hammer is dead
gilded viper
i saw 2 but couldn't tell if they was using the new one or the old one
cyan notch
john warhammer
gilded viper
was really hoping the new hammer to make me like the hammer gameplay as much as the new FS made me love FS now
manic halo
give me my blessings on the other varients fat sharkd
Hammers special is based on hit mass like the evis
So it’s really inconsistent
So really what I’m saying is to buff camo vet
clear heath
it consistently sucks
manic halo
gilded viper
fierce sinew
hopefully the hammer nerf gets reverted in some way
the way our quelling nerf did this patch
manic halo
If we could at least block after hammer special it would feel better
austere estuary
oh speaking of quelling this patch
pine relic
I doubt it will.
austere estuary
80 quelling is also now ideal for riding high peril with warp unleashed on trauma if you're not using flurry
gilded viper
quelling this patch for me really is "never touching manual quelling ever again (gunpsker)"
manic halo
I’m living in the gun psyker Revolution right now and I don’t have a single gun to my name
manic halo
I was staff only
austere estuary
so near full peril benefits
pine relic
the anim cancel is broken, you can solo DH with it.
fierce sinew
maybe that was fatshark's idea all along
juice the entire class so hard the gunspykers can stop trolling runs
clear heath
wait can you still anim cancel block break with 1?
gilded viper
does that mean gun psyker back to meme status 😦
manic halo
Also I’m so used to only running warp battery I feel strange only having 4 bb
Make warp battery base 
digital loom
i avoid gun psykers because having to listen to them cry about having no ammo is just embarassing
fierce sinew
if you're walking around with +55% power you can use whatever weapon you want and punch dick
manic halo
Gun Psykers are the protagonists we are living in their world right now….
pine relic
If you play properly, I don't think you will run out of ammo unless you are using a revolver.
fierce sinew
play properly
manic halo
Can a staff user boy and a gun psyker girl really fall in love 
fierce sinew
steal ammo
pine relic
And I hate any class using revolvers.
fierce sinew
simply pick it up before the vet can get to it, you're faster than he is
power sword lugging goofball
pine relic
I have played over 1000 hours and haven't seen a single good revolver player. all of them are just bad.
manic halo
I’m waiting for the revolver variant with 6 shots
cyan notch
ive been using revolver for a couple games since the patch
never actually fired more than half my reserves
gilded viper
i want to uninstall now, lost a game cause muntant throw me off the map
gilded viper
cyan notch
idk man he can throw ogryns
gilded viper
And I hate any class using revolvers.
honesty revolver just suck mainly cause of reload and ammo
even on vet i feel like it just straight trolling since u just going to eat ammo so fast even with the class build in reload speed
pine relic
idk man he can throw ogryns
Our Ogryn is smart but punny.
gilded viper
really is if they use a irl speed loader i think the gun problem would be mostly fix
pine relic
He can't even get rid of a dog.
wise pecan
honesty revolver just suck mainly cause of reload and ammo
i shot a basic-ass dreg in the head with a revolver and it didn't die
gilded viper
the gun didn't make the funny crit sound so L + ratio 
manic halo
Tbf big dogs are literally a mass of muscles and would be hard to get off you normally. Beyond that the dogs bigger than a person+ it’s buffed by nurgle
Poor ogryn struggling
pine relic
honesty revolver just suck mainly cause of reload and ammo
The same goes for shotguns.
manic halo
Not enough lore on ogryns. Give us a full series on em
pine relic
I have seen the vet asking for ammo at the start of the game more than once.
shadow quail
I'm not getting any stacks with blazing spirit on the MKv, anyone else tried it?
left basin
sissy is the shitttt
cyan notch
sissy hypno
pine relic
Dude, we just played three minutes and went through the first horde and you ran out of ammo already?
gilded viper
i never understand the mindset
left basin
yo uh
shadow quail
yeah
left basin
fuckin
force glaive or sum stupid shit like that
force dildo for all i care
you caress the dildo with your magic hands to charge it and do a vibration attack
pine relic
i never understand the mindset
I'm fine if it's low intensity, you can have your fun.
digital loom
i guess an ice psyker would be a... cryker?
manic halo
Want to shoot ice spikes skyrim style
left basin
sissy hypno
god i was rolling this shit in my head
left basin
i guess an ice psyker would be a... cryker?
can you run cryker
manic halo
He ashamed of that joke
digital loom
gonna cry? gonna ice your pants maybe?
manic halo
Guys that’s not cool
left basin
GOD I WANT MORE ZAPS
manic halo
pine relic
manic halo
Bros go 100% peril
left basin
fr i am so used to constant peril drumnbass in my head i straight up left it at 100
perilcore
damnation hiintensity here i go
manic halo
Can we make make psyker related shit posts and call it peril posting
summer prairie
I think this means AB can give a warp stack upon the target dying even if soulblaze stacks have expired. Can't test this right now though
kind jay
if you're not using illy to go 100% right off the plane you're doing it wrong
blazing trout
How are people feeling about quicken? I have been enjoying it a lot
digital loom
i fucking hate quicken, i always forget to save and it crashes
blazing trout
Lel
gilded viper
i like KB too much to drop it tbh
digital loom
idk if its my pc or what
gilded viper
if i want CD ill just get the elite CD on kill feat > going for quicken
BB go brr is nice
blazing trout
I bet I wouldn’t like it as much if I wasn’t doing 6 warp charges. The double count on getting a warp charge is cozy
topaz sable
I am enjoying so much purga + KB + CD on kill feat
gilded viper
trure
topaz sable
It feels I can handle anything at any range
gilded viper
feel like it a weird spot, cause u basically need 6 warp charge to think quicken a good idea
blazing trout
I’ve started running trauma+deimos FS. It just feels so cozy and strong
topaz sable
still not sure if I'm taking off inner tranq on my trauma staff, with a good flurry blessing its just so spammy
blazing trout
Good options all around.
topaz sable
loving the diversity in builds now
fiery atlas
summer prairie
@near wyvern This is the AB change I was talking about #psyker-class message Thinking about this topic, I assume AB only gives you a stack if a) you kill an enemy that has/had a soulblaze stack from any source or b) you applied the first soulblaze stack and the dot specifically kills it. Someone else may have applied additional stacks. Also, your warp flurry section needs an update as chaining LMB or special can no longer be used to trigger flurry.
shadow quail
loving purg
shy prairie
remind me, do the various forcesword blessings share between the mkii, mkiv, and mkv?
shadow quail
yes
shadow quail
already has deflector atm btw, probably will be changed
topaz sable
bloodthirsty is only for one crit right?
kind jay
yes
gilded viper
isn't FS blood thristy 5sec?
gilded viper
oh they fix it 😦
cyan notch
1 hit only
topaz sable
:(
rocky cedar
topaz sable
depends I suppose
When a sword swings, does it count on a per-enemy basis for crits, or the entire swing?
summer prairie
entire swing
topaz sable
still good on ISF then
since you can kill any little elite and then get a guaranteed charged crit heavy
cyan notch
internet service frovider
summer prairie
Doesn't particularly matter for horde as you'll mostly overkill harder. I guess it will let you hit some additional cleave breakpoints if you don't already
cyan notch
i feel like even this is a little bit too many specials this was just normal hi int no shock troops
pine relic
Should I replace dumdum with headhunter?
pine relic
the recon gun has pathetic damage even with dumdum and wrap charges.
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> This is the AB change I was talking about https://discord....
Thx I'll verify and update
gilded viper
Should I replace dumdum with headhunter?
thisis what i run on recon
wide tiger
If you apply soulfire to an enemy dying does it count as having been applied? @near wyvern
ie you crit hit some poxwalker, slay it in one hit, but also apply soulblaze on crits
gilded viper
don't have a better headhunter but it so noticeable since base crit for the gun kinda suck, LIKE MOST GUN
wide tiger
I switched over to using HH over crucian since crucian in most cases is kinda ass now
If i was doing more spray and pray or less headshot id probably stick with crucian
but also no respite and opening salvo exist so
gilded viper
too bad weapons that have crucian don't have HH
wide tiger
crucian is still good on revolver even though its ass, revolvers need lovin bad
gilded viper
i try to make this work so much but man, using point blanak effienty is so hard
steel flame
ie you crit hit some poxwalker, slay it in one hit, but also apply soulblaze on ...
Blazing spirit will only apply SB on something that survives the crit
wide tiger
Blazing spirit will only apply SB on something that survives the crit
Damn, even though it shows the animation of soulblaze on the target as it dies huh?
shame
steel flame
Yessir
wide tiger
That kinda sucks for trying to use wildfire and blazing spirit
steel flame
Yessir
If you do lights on the crit swing to minimize damage some of the stuff farther into the cleave can survive sometimes
Sometimes
shadow quail
Blazing spirit will only apply SB on something that survives the crit
Kinda sucks on the new cleave sword then, wondering why I cant get it to work
topaz sable
wait thats the wrong sword fml
steel flame
Kinda sucks on the new cleave sword then, wondering why I cant get it to work
Makes it most useful on elites in a mixed hordes rather than regular horde
topaz sable
which perk do I go for? assume I change crit hit to flak?
shadow quail
Makes it most useful on elites in a mixed hordes rather than regular horde
Just spent 2k on it from melk because im staring a purg build but feels bit meh
near wyvern
If you apply soulfire to an enemy dying does it count as having been applied? <@...
Nope
steel flame
Just spent 2k on it from melk because im staring a purg build but feels bit meh
As least you have the blessing now. Never know when it could get buffed
near wyvern
i try to make this work so much but man, using point blanak effienty is so hard
Yeah the duration is too short
steel flame
I have this feeling blazing spirit will have it's day at some point
topaz sable
It already does on trauma
steel flame
Well on sword
topaz sable
yeah that'd be neat
It'd be cool if for melee it was that enemy + every enemy within so many meters
steel flame
Hmmmmm I wonder if min damage illi can crit without killing mobs
The problem is getting a min damage Illi
Anyone have the game open? What's the least amount of damage the Illi can roll
wide tiger
steel flame
And the crit mult
If we don't have damage perks for flack and unarmored. There might be a chance making a low powered Illi sword could be the key to a good soulblaze sword
Hmmmmmmm
topaz sable
but why build around putting a dot on nearly dead enemies instead of killing them outright
topaz sable
can't disagree with that
steel flame
I need to do some testing when I get off work it seems
steel flame
What's the crit multiplier for light 1?
summer prairie
Shred makes more sense for that kind of build
spice veldt
1.5 to 2.5 irrc
wide tiger
steel flame
Oh. Even with min damage that might be too much for pox walkers
steel flame
Hmmmmmmmmm. So maybe the way to go is to get a 30% or lower finesse roll
hollow current
All these gun gifts I've gotten today make me want to warpslode. Feels like I only get a stave/duelling/force sword 10-20% of the time.
cyan notch
theyre kinda mid now with the new force swords
ornate hamlet
y
cyan notch
cuz fs do what they do but better
hollow current
I like the V because the heavies can 1 hit flak goons on damnation. It also has a pretty large dodge. Been using the pointy new warp sword tho.
cyan notch
unless you really like the mobility
regal musk
I see nothing has really changed ... Dealing witha horde, check to see team is behind me. Yup team is behind me!
Turn back to the fresh horde ... and sudenly im getting hit in the back, i turn to find the team, scattered across the map.
shy prairie
bought slaughterer fs from melk, immediately get a random blessing for slaughterer
spice veldt
skill issue
gilded viper
I see nothing has really changed ... Dealing witha horde, check to see team is b...
teammate are like magnet, force to be pull apart from each other
shy prairie
the misery
summer prairie
with rampage+shred the horde clear should be pretty good, warp unleashed helps a bit with breakpoints I suppose
wide tiger
with rampage+shred the horde clear should be pretty good, warp unleashed helps a...
you talking about rapier?
cyan notch
doesnt help cleave tho
summer prairie
The left one is great
cyan notch
use the left one
pine relic
sad, got grabbed by the dog in the end.
cold geode
left
stable silo
dang lol i guess its lefty hands down
shadow quail
isn't hard to make a good surge tbh
shy prairie
crit my beloved
stable silo
i also got this one
pine relic
The high peril made it hard for me to distinguish the direction of the dog.
stable silo
i dont know surge as much im dabbling now after getting a good purg and void
shy prairie
still have no idea how t.b. works on surge
stable silo
would that blue one be better than the left one from earlier u think ?
cyan notch
green one better
u already have +crit chance on green
so your 2nd perk can be whatever flak etc
stable silo
ooh crit chance > crit dmg
wide tiger
yeah its decent on flak
cyan notch
left click damage is good as always but 10% crit dmg doesnt really do anything great
summer prairie
at least it can pretty easily one-shot two flak gunners
stable silo
dang
wide tiger
gets a high crit rate on LMB
stable silo
bad perk (tier 2 ) but this is finished product
wide tiger
might have the best LMB of the non purg staves
shy prairie
run it with a deimos and you can singlehandedly clown crushers ect.
wide tiger
for whatever thats worth
wide tiger
I'd keep flurry just so you have the option to charge tho
cause run n gun
well
up to your preference
shy prairie
mincharge + flurry = continual lightning (in a perfect world)
near wyvern
<@345531303942291457> This is the AB change I was talking about https://discord....
ok so I tested these, indeed LMB and special stacking were stealth patched out
AB is indeed now able to yield a proc even after the effect has expired. The window is around 1 seconds after the last damage tick. After that it cannot yield procs.
cyan notch
yea just replace run and gun with warp nexus ez boom
wide tiger
yeah
stable silo
well its no tier 3's but it will do for now i suppose \
should i reroll unarmored to flak ?
steel flame
Maniac
shy prairie
it should be able to reach the breakpoint for flak (at least basic scabs) relatively easily
summer prairie
you could consider rerolling crit to flak too
wide tiger
flak cause thats the only thing you'll do damage to
steel flame
Fair enough
wide tiger
well carapace actually does take some damage from it too
summer prairie
the extra crit chance doesn't help that much when you already have nexus+crit from the stat
wide tiger
but thats like one enemy
summer prairie
but unarmored can help against dreg shooters, maybe can crit kill them more easily
wide tiger
lol
im pretty sure the crit bonus to unarmored is crazy too
its been a while since i used a surge
cursive marten
Exorcist or Slaughterer ?
hollow current
I used it on the shock trooper modifier or whatever. Was useful.
Slaughter is cracked. real easy to quell now days anyways.
cursive marten
Slaughter is cracked. real easy to quell now days anyways.
ok
light citrus
final bay
Suppose Melk's random curios are worth gambling on? Trying to figure out a way to get non-shit curios when the shop ones always seem to suck royal blue emperor dick
spice veldt
only if you have a buttload of milk bottles to spare
or if you're particularly wanting for curios
steel flame
Aight I've decided. I'm gonna go all in on finding me a min damage illi sword with blaze and bloodthirsty.
Odds of finding it? Slim to none but I'm gonna give a try anyway
cyan notch
good
leaden pier
what do you guys think i should adjust?
hollow current
It's so good it feels like cheating lol.
Blood thirsty got nerfed/fix so it's one and done instead of 5 seconds of crits.
pine relic
thisis what i run on recon
I tried. the weapon recon gun is bad.
spice veldt
why slaughterer instead of other blessings?
power is damage, cleave, and stagger
+60% power is +60% damage, +60% cleave, and +60% stagger
though, if you're not using your deimos for killing enemies at all and just for sniping specials, you can probably take on unstable power or something instead
but slaughterer is still amazing nevertheless
forest coral
Deimos the more I use it, the more I like it
I’m getting somewhat of a spear fix
Goes wonderfully well with purg and void to an extent
stable silo
niiice
spice veldt
we are in heaven right now
shadow quail
purg my new jam
spice veldt
can't believe they basically gave us a power sword but we don't have dogshit stamina regen delay and we have damage buffs that affect melee
forest coral
Illisi is better than power sword without cycler imo
spice veldt
and there's also unstable power; not as good as power cycler, but god damn
oh wait power swords get rampage
forest coral
Slaughterer and unstable when things align
spice veldt
fuck
forest coral
Ye
pine relic
nice
shadow quail
PS still much better with tier 4 cycler, but the fact that we got a sword that is comparable to the PS is nice
leaden pier
you can only rebless with blessings taken from the same kind type of weapon right?
spice veldt
yup; though that intuition doesn't necessarily work out in all cases
e.g., the equinox staffs (Trauma, Voidstrike) don't share blessings
leaden pier
i see
spice veldt
works in most cases like guns n melee n all that
so for everyone that isn't a psyker
stable silo
whats the perks and blessings you wanna go for with purg staff ?
leaden pier
i run warp nexus to procc crits more and more crit chance
stable silo
hm this is what im working with atm
shadow quail
flurry and nexus
stable silo
ah so i got a good base right there
leaden pier
when reblessing, i can still replace the blessing in the slot ive chosen with another one later right?
leaden pier
ah ok that's good to know
shadow quail
staffs are the easiest weapons to get decent ones lol
leaden pier
does sustained fire even work with the voidstrike?
spice veldt
haven't tested after the patch but it didn't work on RMB pre-patch
leaden pier
i cant really tell even with the icon showing up in the bottom
pine relic
Power sword is nice until you realize your push and dodge are so bad that dog can easily grab you.
leaden pier
the unlimited dodges is quite neat
spice veldt
was about to throw hands
shadow quail
just swing and it'll die
shadow quail
with PC 4 it does
leaden pier
i still dont understand the point of the staff melee
frozen iris
forest coral
spice veldt
i still dont understand the point of the staff melee
best bonk 10/10
forest coral
replace infested enemies with perk of ur choice
Blessings replace shred with slaughterer
near wyvern
All the Deimos fansiblings out here please stop using special and start using push into heavy
staggers everything around the elite + no animation lock and deals more DPS FFS
near wyvern
does the heavy stab stagger ragers?
yes, even on a body shot
forest coral
Special is bugged right now on Deimos
near wyvern
and that is on a body shot rager mid swinging
spice veldt
heavens
forest coral
Like if u swing too quick, it cancels itself
near wyvern
but in any case you want to push attack if it's in your face since it will hit you if you try to access the 2nd heavy
forest coral
If u shank something it takes really long to apply it
leaden pier
what if special into push heavy
forest coral
And u seem to do more damage on second heavy anyway
pine relic
All the Deimos fansiblings out here please stop using special and start using pu...
most of the time you don't get to stab mutants in the face, that's the problem.
forest coral
what if special into push heavy
Only the special damage goes through for some reason
Overriding the physical itself
pine relic
And you could just use light + heavy to trigger the second heavy attack.
white cedar
BigE give this to me...thank you
near wyvern
what if special into push heavy
you still do more damage if you so push attack into heavy light heavy
with no animation lock and no preparations
forest coral
The only good thing about the special is it disables the target units when u inject that force energy into them
snow scaffold
Isn't the special good against crushers vs heavy?
forest coral
That’s bout it
cyan notch
All the Deimos fansiblings out here please stop using special and start using pu...
there are situations where u want to special like when dodging a mutant and hitting it while it goes by to 1 shot it or just light special into a flamer
or vs maulers etc
pine relic
Heavy special attacks deal the same amount of damage, regardless of whether it's the first or second attack.
near wyvern
most of the time you don't get to stab mutants in the face, that's the problem.
then you re-position
you can even find the head when stabbing through the back
most reliable are on the sides
pine relic
you can even find the head when stabbing through the back
yeah, but how many times can you actually pull it off?
snow scaffold
What advantage does the fs 2 have over fs 5? I just love finally being about to deal with armored enemies
near wyvern
yeah, but how many times can you actually pull it off?
around 50% of the time, the easiest is from the side which is just 100% head shot rates for me
and it takes 1 dodge to get from the back side to the side
so there are no excuses
cyan notch
using a special isnt about dps its more for 1 shotting stuff
near wyvern
the time you light dodge (heavy readyign up) you are already at the side when you can release
near wyvern
using a special isnt about dps its more for 1 shotting stuff
but that's my point, 2nd heavy does exact same damage than special on head
and has no animation lock
and you can push into it
cyan notch
its not the same damage
near wyvern
wel, not quite exact but close enoug
pine relic
Yeah, I'm just gonna pretend I believe in you.
cyan notch
you can 1 shot a mutant while dodging it with a special heavy but u cant with just the poke
summer prairie
if you don't headshot the difference is very significant, but yeah
near wyvern
2nd heavy on head is a tiny bit more than special heavy on body
so pepole crying about headshot reliance think about that
near wyvern
Which should i go with
anything with good damage roll, it just slaps
summer prairie
ask me again after they are blue
snow scaffold
Get 2nd it has higher rating
vestal raven
OK
near wyvern
too bad it had 2 under performing blessings but at least this thing nukes well with trauma
pine relic
Most of the time I just one light stab in the face then one heavy on the back, but the mutant usually still alive.
near wyvern
not the best roll but hits like a truck
cyan notch
theyre both tools to use when the situation is right for them
its not a clear cut just use this only all the time
near wyvern
I mean Deimos is really good with horde clear weapons and Illisi is really good with single target weapons
🤷
gonna miss the movement speed of dagger tho
snow scaffold
I think someone said the new force blades come with range deflector is that true
summer prairie
yes, but only because they used an old lua file from last august or so as base
snow scaffold
Hmm so you're saying that's not the original design
smoky fractal
are we able to 1 bb ogryns yet?
cyan notch
gonna miss the movement speed of dagger tho
deimos has really good movement so it shouldnt be too bad
pine relic
Pretty sure they will fix that.
pine relic
are we able to 1 bb ogryns yet?
That's never gonna happen.
shadow quail
yes, but only because they used an old lua file from last august or so as base
is that confirmed?
snow scaffold
I like psyker but I feel I lose the most with other psykers in heresy, especially when there's 3 of us.
hearty dagger
Can i get psyker chat's opinion on this?
spice veldt
force sword has no extra crit chance on it's own so you're stuck with psyker's base crit chance of 5%
hearty dagger
Fml then :D
runic hornet
I have a force sword with riposte
successful dodge = 15% crit chance... for 2 seconds
It's not enough to make blazing spirit worth it
pine relic
By the time you build full stacks, I think everything is already dead.
runic hornet
and that means you can't take slaughterer or unstable power
shadow quail
it just means blazing sucks on the FS
pine relic
And it deals less damage than your light attack.
runic hornet
There is a really niche idea where you take wildfire on a build that doesn't use purgatus, doesn't use ascendant blaze
you put 4 soulfire stacks on the field with the on-crit talents from your weapons
runic hornet
but... the utility of that is really, really minimal
pine relic
Unless FS buff it, it's a meme.
runic hornet
the one situation where wildfire is actually useful and not just eyecancer
pine relic
Not to mention you have to give up slaughterer, You will struggle to kill a mob.
runic hornet
is where you're kiting around in circles
and wildfire has the time to actually burn poxwalkers from 100 to 0
in basically any other situation any mob that is in range to receive wildfire stacks should be dying to your team in the next two seconds
hearty dagger
Tbf with Illisi the alt fire just nukes mobs anyway
ornate hamlet
illisi enjoyers 
twilit badger
I guess Illisi with bloodthirst blessing would be really cool?
hearty dagger
I honestly wish there was a cosmetic skin for Deimos
So i could stick that on my Illisi
snow scaffold
So is this the ideal blessings deflector and slaughter for MK 5 then. I use so much deflector to get my shield back up and to get some range aggro for my teammates
hearty dagger
Since Deimos looks cool but i really don't dig the moveset
shadow quail
wildfire helps keep stacks up on a purg build, right?
twilit badger
Since it guarantees crit after crit with amazing horde clearing
pine relic
Tbf with Illisi the alt fire just nukes mobs anyway
You still do a lot of light attacks.
runic hornet
wildfire helps keep stacks up on a purg build, right?
not really
ascendant blaze only rewards warp charge stacks if it scores last hits
hearty dagger
@pine relic I found that the best mod clear combo is heavy into light, so no, not really
runic hornet
...wildfire is basically never going to score last hits
hearty dagger
Gives you best damage and best coverage since it's just two horizontal slashes
runic hornet
if it were "if an enemy dies and it has soulfire stacks on it", the same way Wildfire reads
shadow quail
ah
runic hornet
but ascendant blaze requires enemies to die TO the soulfire tick
shadow quail
so warp battery better?
snow scaffold
Legit Illisi made me switch off of using vet and zealot. Psyker just requires so much more skills to play optimally
cyan notch
but ascendant blaze requires enemies to die TO the soulfire tick
no it doesnt
cyan notch
since forever
runic hornet
what the fuck
hearty dagger
Was about to say
shadow quail
I am so confused
runic hornet
I spent like an hour in the range trying to get stacks
hearty dagger
I remember purgatus giving me warp charge when killing shit with in in my AB build
runic hornet
and I was like "wow I'm not getting any warp charges from ascendant blaze"
hearty dagger
You straight up got that 0% luck bro
shadow quail
so..WB or wildfire for purg?
hearty dagger
Personally i just rock Kinetic Flayer regardless of what i run
runic hornet
6-stack warp battery into blaze ult is fun but USUALLY unnecessary
hearty dagger
The 10% chance of warp charge from any attack is pretty poggers especially with warp charge toughness recharge
shadow quail
KF seems kinda pointless on purg its not hard to get stacks
hearty dagger
Though Warp recharge+Illisi alt fire is my new favorite since it's way more consistent
runic hornet
Okay, I'm in the range right now
I have received 0 warp charges from ascedant blaze by marking enemies with purgatus and then killing them with my sword
which is what I was saying
i know it's 10% but I've killed like 50 poxwalkers at this point
runic hornet
oh, well in that case, why the hell do you need wildfire
steel flame
i know it's 10% but I've killed like 50 poxwalkers at this point
Skill issue
runic hornet
what does wildfire contribute to directly flaming enemies with purgatus
steel flame
More fire.....
fluid cove
everyone excited about the new weapons and im here making grimnir proud.
runic hornet
if you're hitting poxwalkers with purgatus stream directly they are gonna die in like 2 seconds regardless
steel flame
It extends your range of effect drastically
runic hornet
you mean you start ticking them for scratch damage like a second before they walk into purgatus stream range and then die?
it looks cool
that's about it
steel flame
16 stacks distributed constantly means entire horde continues to go up in flames even after you stop spraying them
runic hornet
no
it's 4 stacks
truncated
That's how wildfire reads
if it transfered fuly stacked purgatus it'd rock
steel flame
It's only 4 per enemies but it spreads the 16 around meaning it spreads to everything
runic hornet
4 wildfire stacks caps at like ~25 per tick
steel flame
And?
runic hornet
and thesea re enemies taht are running into your purgatus stream
they're gonna melt in the blink of an eye anyway
steel flame
It's 5 meters but with stuff dying constantly to gunfire it just goes everywhere
runic hornet
the situation is this
poxwalker horde spawns on a side
You flame it. It dies as it walks into purgatus stream range
...nothing changes when you add wildfire to that situation
shadow quail
What are you using instead?
runic hornet
flayer, by a long country mile
steel flame
Why though
shadow quail
for one kill?
runic hornet
flayer is automatic warp charge buildup+maintenance, and massive damage spikes that so often land on key opponents
steel flame
More fire more stacks more consistently
runic hornet
more stacks more consistently
I will reiterate they have to die to the tick
i'm in the range right now, nothing has changed here
shadow quail
but you have max stacks most of the time anyway?
runic hornet
from what I said
hearty dagger
It's better to have some extra insurance+damage on top
runic hornet
i have been flaming and last-hitting mobs this entire time between lines
you 100% do not get stacks from ascendant blaze if they die to a non-soulblaze source
cyan notch
u do
runic hornet
which is gonna be most of the time, in a situation where you're not applying purgatus stream directly to the mob and stacking the stacks higher than 4 stacks=25 damage/tick
pine relic
I almost crutched with wildfire because I was fighting a horde with four bulwarks.
There is no way I could kill them without wildfire.
runic hornet
blooddrunk I have been tagging and stabbing poxwalkers this entire time
I still have 0 stacks
unless you tell me something is broken in the range
past brook
I just got this beautiful illisi force sword
but emperor damn if the perks are complete crap, and the blessings middling
runic hornet
like the idea of wildfire is that it continues to apply damage even when you're not using the purgatus stream, whether because of range or because you have to go to your sword for some reason
runic hornet
but... why is the enemy in range of getting wildfire, but for some reason, you're not able to use your purgatus staff? doesn't make sense
pine relic
You can check the damage I dealt with wildfire.
runic hornet
You can check the damage I dealt with wildfire.
irrelevant tick damage that didn't affect hits-to-kill from your allies
runic hornet
innnnnteresting
are you sure that you're not getting "close but not quite" and then wildfire is last hitting, somewhere in that hyperstack?
because again I've been in the range for an eternity with ascendant blaze doing it one by one
zero stacks, still
specifically I've been using my thrust Antax
and using a thrust heavy to make sure I last hit
with massive fuckoff damage
cyan notch
idk what u mean by close but not quite
runic hornet
like your illisi is taking one of the hyperstacked mobs to like 10 hp
and then wildfire finishes it
cyan notch
theyre all fresh spawns
runic hornet
i mean it's a longshot because it looks pretty in sync, same frame
stable silo
@late yew mostly mobility
runic hornet
could just be that the range is broken somehow because I was switching feats
summer prairie
this discussion has been had a dozen times and with video evidence every time
runic hornet
....could it be that I'm not using a force weapon?
summer prairie
no
spice veldt
it works with the antax
runic hornet
I'm just going to go with the range broke somehow
pine relic
irrelevant tick damage that didn't affect hits-to-kill from your allies
If that's the case, I would not kill almost double the number of lesser enemies compared to the combined number of enemies killed by two of my teammates.
spice veldt
it's probably just probability
runic hornet
If that's the case, I would not kill almost double the number of lesser enemies ...
That's just purgatus being purgatus
Purgatus fucks
but I don't think wildfire helps
runic hornet
it's probably just probability
it might just be a 10% chance but I am killing like a poxwalker in between every line
I'm going to settle for "I broke the range somehow and the talent swap didn't apply correctly"
summer prairie
possible yes
pine relic
Well, Enjoy your kinetic flayer on purgatus.
shadow quail
Seems pretty conclusive, tbh
runic hornet
Well, Enjoy your kinetic flayer on purgatus.
flayer fucks
late yew
<@351362618981744653> mostly mobility
Dodging?
runic hornet
flame crushers and they get flayed, BB distant bulwarks and they get double BB'd
late yew
But force swords have infinite dodges?
spice veldt
here's video of it with the antax; i get a warp charge at the 19 second mark https://streamable.com/r999zc
runic hornet
hey, there it is
cyan notch
....could it be that I'm not using a force weapon?
nope
near wyvern
why are we still debating about this
stable silo
@late yew dodging sliding and move speed with fast attacks to stagger enemies while rotating around generally poor vs armor with low cleave but good vs unarmored lowish ST dmg as well sadly very quick weapon but weaker as a result
runic hornet
okay, ascendant blaze aside
I don't think the etick damage from wildfire is significant in any situation where you have the purgatus staff actively in hand
which should be most of the time
summer prairie
it means the new targets start with more stacks
runic hornet
is the difference in TTK on a poxwalker going to be that significant?
near wyvern
it means the new targets start with more stacks
not that likely to happen, people running into your staff range have 4 stacks quite quick after which point wildfire cannot increase their stacks
runic hornet
Even against elites it doesn't seem that improtant, anything you are streaming purgatus onto is going to be hurting
near wyvern
wildfire is only really useful when combined with blazing spirit weapons
runic hornet
i mean there's an argument that like
a bulwark walks into your purgatus stream and it already has 4 stacks on it when you start streaming onto it
summer prairie
it's also useful with 4 stack AB if you switch to your weapon that has sufficient relevant power/damage
runic hornet
but that headstart of 4 stacks doesn't seem significant to me
summer prairie
and even with purg wildfire is going to be applying to targets you haven't gotten to 4 stacks yet
runic hornet
it's also useful with 4 stack AB if you switch to your weapon that has sufficien...
actually, how badly would those stacks hurt on a fully stacked unstable power+slaughterer force sword with + infested on it, @ 100% peril
summer prairie
it's like 40 damage per tick on infested
so it will keep burning through the horde as long as there's sufficient fuel
runic hornet
that "sufficient fuel" thing is why I'm leery, because, like
Why are you going to swap off of purgatus, when there are mobs to hit with it
spice veldt
slaughterer perhaps
summer prairie
well you wouldn't be running purgatus
runic hornet
if you fully stack purgatus on a bunch of mobs and then whip out a slaughterer weapon
do the tick kills add slaughter stacks
summer prairie
I do that with trauma blazing spirit+nexus+AB
runic hornet
okay, see, that I can get behind
summer prairie
and switch to Illisi that has slaughterer+unstable+infested+horde dmg
runic hornet
Because trauma has a notable thing where it shoves mobs into narnia who take forever to stand back up and get back into the fight
runic hornet
But the original point was "I should stack wildfire with purgatus with ascendent blaze"
runic hornet
yeah okay, so anything that dies to tick damage with your sluaghterer force sword add
does add to the slaughterer count
summer prairie
It's very fun when your team isn't destroying the horde already, which admittedly isn't often
runic hornet
so... I can see that actually adding up
again, because trauma staff has a tendency to throw mobs into funny places where they take ages to get back into the fight
knocking them back down off of climb-ups for example
summer prairie
you don't really even need blazing spirit for it as your ult with 4 stacks can get it going too
runic hornet
I still stand by my point that it's overkill with purgatus
and doesn't meaningfully contribute there
runic hornet
anecdotally, it plays exactly the same and has no discernable improvement, but 1. anecdotal 2. small sample size
summer prairie
people also get excited about purg crit applying double stacks but in a sense this has a similar function
runic hornet
the mobs are blue when they get to you but they die while in your stream just the same
late yew
How much difference in damage happens because of power level?
Thinking if it is ok for me as level 18 to keep doing dif 4
I do more or less fine there, but wonder if i could be more useful
runic hornet
you can do diff 4 at min level it opens up at
summer prairie
very little difference
runic hornet
enemies don't really become sponges until damnation and even then it's not THAT bad
summer prairie
not from your level at all, but your weapons get a bit better
late yew
Weapons is what i mean
cyan notch
theres no power level yea
weapons are just weapons your rolls will be a little low but thats your only damage disparity
spice veldt
weapon damage can be 2.5x greater compared to a 0 rating weapon, though it's prob good enough as level 18
Just that it's harder to DPS check
late yew
So it is nothing like vermintide?
cyan notch
nope
runic hornet
no base power from levels, no
summer prairie
50 all stats Illisi is still going to destroy even damnation horde
cyan notch
ur a beast straight out the gate
only ur weapon rolls boost your damage and blessings perks feats blahblah
late yew
Oh, so amount of hits to kill does not change even when you get better weapons?
summer prairie
Illisi weapon special heavy damage with 0 damage/finesse/first hit
spice veldt
that gets into the topic of breakpoints and gets messy when you consider stat distributions and different weapons
summer prairie
no blessings
spice veldt
but higher stat weapons "tend" to do more damage
just that stat distribution is the thing that matters, not the overall rating of the weapon
late yew
noice
So i will not have to get used to way faster kills when i lev el up
and i can just keep getting used to diff 4
spice veldt
you might get some whacky damage buffs from certain blessing though
slaughterer being the prime example
late yew
I don't even know what blessings are
cyan notch
theyre like cool talents/perks on your weapon
near wyvern
I don't even know what blessings are
Blessings are buffs that are tied to having that weapon out. Different weapons have different pool of blessings.
As en example, all force swords can get a blessing on them that allow blocking bullets from the front and decrease block cost by X% depending on the blessing tier.
Perks are more like direct stat buffs on a weapon. These can have things like more damage against a selected group of enemies, more crit chance and so on.
Weapons get perks and blessings at the following qualities:
- white => none
- green => first perk
- blue => first blessing
- purple => second perk
- orange => second blessing
You can choose 1 perk and 1 blessing on any weapon at Hadron which you can change. The other blessing and other perk will be locked forever so that they cannot be changed. You can also upgrade your weapon colour at Hadron all the way to orange.
twilit badger
I'm having such shit lucks as psyker
I had decenr RNG on loots and crafting on other classes
Just that psyker has absolute shit lucks
sterile vale
Same, Melk had two decent Gorgonum stubbers for my ogryn on patch day, but I've yet to get a single Voidstrike with transfer peril
I think it's a problem made worse by staff blessings not being shared between each other
twilit badger
Over 250 matches i have played as psyket and staffs and FS drops been very rare for emps gift i think it was like only 4-5
Then i spent over 40k plasteel on crafting alone hoping for good void staff
sterile vale
I have actually had quite some luck with emp's gifts myself, got at least 4 transcendent staffs from it so far
idle bay
Finally got T4 Deflector.... but still do not have T3 Slaughterer.. only T2
dim lava
Hi I was wandering if you have any tips for the Malleus Monstronum penance, and Going out With a Bang. I am a solo player btw.
idle bay
Hi I was wandering if you have any tips for the Malleus Monstronum penance, and ...
LFG channel for Monstrum. Only option for solo player
Also LFG for and easy Bang... (Phrasing!) Easy "Going on with bang" LFG as well. And Chasm Terminus start of the mission one of the best spots for it.
Preemptively instruct team to push all elites they find in a nice pile. And then go Boom. Use Shotgunners or Gunners for this. They one-shot from the Warp Explosion on every diffculty
pine relic
Ogryn's new stubber seems very good
idle bay
I played with 2 really good vet players today. They barely left me anything to kill 🙂 Bolter vet with crazy numer of elite/special kills was most impresive
pine relic
vet is broken.
idle bay
vet is broken.
Don't worry Fish will compensate power of each class with more AI director spawns bullshit 🙂 And new crazy conditions
spice veldt
we got a cleave special now so idgaf
pine relic
Their feats alone give them 100% additional range damage. How much damage do you get for six wrap charges
idle bay
we got a cleave special now so idgaf
Cleave special that we barely have to use really 🙂
spice veldt
i dont recall veteran having that many damage feats
besides counterfire (which gives dogshit weakspot) and sniper
idle bay
Vs hoarde simply spamming heavy is enough (with Slaughterer). Special is just for tough elites 🙂
glossy hazel
I fell in love with the Illisi Force Sword. Nothing more satisfying than killing 3 ragers and a horde with a single swing.
spice veldt
the special bumps your cleave up to 10.5
i agree that you can just qq cancel the 1st heavy for hordes
but that damage and stagger from the cleave special
idle bay
but that damage and stagger from the cleave special
And sound and sparks!
pine relic
volley fire 50% damage + 30 level feats.
spice veldt
pretty fair to get a damage bump during their ult i'd say
glossy hazel
Illisi Force Sword + Voidstrike is a pretty potent combo. You got longer range horde clear/shooter clearing paired with a melee powerhouse/horde clear.
spice veldt
and the lvl30 feats only give the damage boost during the ult
the real problem isn't the damage but the ult extensions
glossy hazel
Ascendant Blaze is best in slot unless you want to use the shitty brainburst. Even if you don't run Purgatus, since with 4 stacks it's a huge aoe dot.
Really good to put pressure on elites/shooters hiding behind a horde.
late yew
Blessings are buffs that are tied to having that weapon out. Different weapons h...
Thanks
dim lava
@idle bay Thanks for the advice sibling ❤️
idle bay
<@189647817147416576> Thanks for the advice sibling ❤️
Also fastest way to into 100% peril and overload is to spam special on your Force Sword. Simply charging and charging it again without attacking Few clicks and you ready to go.
still hearth
vet is broken.
Working as intended
runic hornet
so it turns out I had an illisi with slaughterer + 8% horde + 20% infested
so I took it out for a spin with wildfire and blazing spirit on trauma
it works
trauma has a tendency to stall horde at the edge of its range
and the wildfire procs and chaining will do the damage
still hearth
Ascendant Blaze is best in slot unless you want to use the shitty brainburst. Ev...
"Shitty brainburst" you mean the infinite range sniper that can 1-shot every single enemy except ogryn, mutants, dogs and bosses?
runic hornet
it takes like 3 seconds per burst, not including venting time, but the ability to insta-peek and then duck back into cover when a gun-user would be suppressed out of their mind, or just taking too much of a risk, is notable
there's plenty of times where you end up with angles that are "yeah, don't peek that" and psyker can
spice veldt
2 seconds LMB, 3 seconds RMB minimum
runic hornet
and you can kill snipers and bombers a mile away
still hearth
It takes 2s before they die, then you had about 1s of the snap animation, which can be cancelled to speed it up.
And with the charge speed bonus
You can snap a lot
runic hornet
it's a 2 second charge, with like 1 second until next burst is available unless you cancel
still hearth
Yeah.
runic hornet
though i guess the distinction matters, because 2 seconds means you can actuall weave it in sometimes in horde situations
still hearth
It still does about the same damage as a fully charged Plasma shot
And you have no ammo
glossy hazel
The charge time makes it shitty, it's good if there is no one else who can snipe but why waste 2 seconds when you could have been doing something more beneficial to the team.
runic hornet
Trauma burst feet -> BB that fucking sniper -> force sword push -> trauma feet
still hearth
I hate this argument because it makes no sense.
runic hornet
there's plenty of times when a player with a gun absolutely wouldn't be able to safely peek
spice veldt
we're not disputing that it's useless in some situations
spice veldt
but it's a fucking grenade slot weapon
runic hornet
if you seriously think that "oh a vet could always do it faster"
still hearth
BB is free and has infinite uses
spice veldt
what more do you want from a grenade slot weapon
still hearth
And gives you lots of peril to quell
And currently one-shots almost all big enemies
runic hornet
I suggest you play some hi-intes damnation with like a quadrillion riflemen shooting at you
still hearth
Two-shotting everything else
Veteran can definitely kill a quadrillion riflemen faster
runic hornet
oh yeah the vet kills the riflemen faster
idle bay
It took me a while to get T3 Slaughterer. 660 Hours in game...
light citrus
Which Force sword prefer now
still hearth
But I get more use of BB than spamming melee
runic hornet
but he can't take the angle at all even with 75% damage res
runic hornet
to kill that one fucking grenadier who is covered by a quadrillion rifles
still hearth
but he can't take the angle at all even with 75% damage res
You sure can if you run the right guns.
Shredder punching through 3 enemies atm
runic hornet
plasma might be able to do it
any ADS gun is going to get aimpunched into the skybox
still hearth
If you run Revolver you can cap things straight through enemies too
You don't get aimpunched on Vet
spice veldt
i get the sentiment about having a better single-target DPS ranged option, but BB is not the one to shoulder that responsibility
go blame fatshark for giving us CC staffs
spice veldt
it's still CC to kill crowds
still hearth
It's like 2.3m
glossy hazel
If you can use brainburst constantly then A. you are being carried hard or B. you are playing on malice or below.
still hearth
Of damage
spice veldt
If you can use brainburst constantly then A. you are being carried hard or B. yo...
what is this strawman
runic hornet
hyperconcentration exists all the time
idle bay
2nd try today 🙂
twilit badger
Is T4 slaughterer blessing exists on FS?
still hearth
Nice one 
spice veldt
hyperconcentration exists all the time
wow the trauma famed for its single-target DPS
twilit badger
I think i never seen one
light citrus
idle bay
Is T4 slaughterer blessing exists on FS?
In alternative reality 🙂
twilit badger
Only T3 ones
light citrus
twilit badger
I actually haven't seen one with T4 slaughter blessings so far