psyker-class

[spark cape]

it feels like Psyker penances are some of the hardest 😔

[gilded viper]

Expect it in the mail in 4-6k business days

[pearl lion]

They're definitely the most fiddly

[feral verge]

they are

[pearl lion]

I'd say they are on par with some of the other most difficult ones, but psykers are definitely the most... not complex, but like... you need to go out of your way to do them

A lot of the other penances you can kind of just chance into

[north cradle]

I'm sold. I thought I wanted a crowd clear Force Sword, but I'm digging the Deimos

[pearl lion]

Psykers ones you have to be really deliberate, or require coordination

[gilded viper]

Yah, who else has, just suck as your class and blow up 3 dudes as a penance?

[pearl lion]

It's be nice if the explosion reliably killed ragers in one shot

[gilded viper]

Or didnt have absurd fall off

[pearl lion]

Instead you need to weaken them a bit and have them all directly up your butt

[north cradle]

You could do Shotgunners

[gilded viper]

Getting 3 of them to stand still next to each other is the problem with doing it with ranged elites

[north cradle]

Roll up on them, block their shots, get in melee, spam block push followup, explode

[gilded viper]

I just did 3 scab ragers. Lol

[mortal breach]

Unleash the Warp?
Souls?

What is FS trying to say here?

Are we the baddies?

[gilded viper]

Implying there are good guys in 40k

[kind jay]

fatty leaking future updates via lack of QA

[gilded viper]

Fatshark is well known for a lack of consistent verbage

Or even understandable verbage

[graceful aurora]

Hello fellow Psykers. I really enjoyed this game on release but took a break because of the bugs and I'm back now that I've heard so much about the fixes and improvements. Is there an FAQ or link I can get so I don't ask a lot of reduntant questions here?

[mortal breach]

I mean I just assume they were the working names for the ability and buff

[gilded viper]

You might be able to skim over all the updates on the fatshark forums.

I somehow missed the quicken buffs. So like. Is there a reason to use it now?

As opposed to Barrage or Blaze?

[olive ember]

Yoooo finally got someone tilted

[sleek pebble]

ok used a bad illsi sword and it feels amazing

[gilded viper]

I always put a marker on ammo crates and healthkits I drop. If they miss it, I ain’t worrying about it.

[olive ember]

I didn't drop it

he didn't say anything and then just raged lmao

kinda bruh too that was the easiest assassination boss of all time

literally zero specials or elitse

only fucking poxwalker hordes

and they only come from one direction too

[cyan notch]

u must be new to magistrati

[olive ember]

lmao idk the guy just quit

and idk about you but normally I get teammates who crumple at the first sign of a rager or mauler

so yeah

[gilded viper]

The pug experience: runs into open area full of shooters, gets downed, dcs. Repeat forever

[cyan notch]

theres a reason why people like this assassination boss mission

[gilded viper]

There needs to be a modifier that adds assassination targets to boss spawns

[solar cloak]

multiple captains spawning

that sounds really nice

[olive ember]

I mean I just quickplay damnation nowadays

[gilded viper]

Qp damnation is fine as long as the time of day has a healthy pop

[olive ember]

welp I got my illi up to gold

its eh

[mortal breach]

You can quick-spam the Illisi sword charge for some quality peril ehm... edging.

[olive ember]

lmao yes you can

[gilded viper]

I mean you could do worse. Slaughterer/Deflector aint bad either

[solar cloak]

got me screwed up on the damage

[kind jay]

selling whats left of my shriveled and bitter soul to nurgle in exchange for a crumb of plasteel

[cyan notch]

better than his

[gilded viper]

Just a crumb of plasteel good sir

Give us a currency exchange damnit

It worked in vt2

I don’t need 5k Diamantine

[kind jay]

yo the peddler is tryna peddle me some shit

MELK WHY

guess im a lasgun main

[mortal breach]

Get lasgun'd nerd

[gilded viper]

By the emperor you shall be a gun psyker

[mortal breach]

the HUMbLE laSGun

[kind jay]

but why cant i have something more interesting? like a laszooka or something

[mortal breach]

Lascannon will be gunner only

[daring nexus]

It’s the best one now

[gilded viper]

How

[gilded viper]

Ogryn lascannon will be fun

[graceful aurora]

Is this ... Legal?

[olive ember]

It really isn't

[mortal breach]

While my warpflame-snorting ass disagrees, I have to at least admit that they made a perk I hated into a perk I expressed some interest in

[green phoenix]

what better to get? deflecter t4 or executioner t3

[daring nexus]

Using it with communion and essence harvest is totally broken. You can just charge into melee with the insane new swords and go full zealot.

[rose lily]

man... seeing the buff/debuff icon for terrifying barrage looks like it's only effective for 1 second, maybe less

[gilded viper]

But I could already do that from range with Ascendant Blaze

[gilded viper]

Exe t3, Deflector is mostly for the ranged block

[olive ember]

Lies reee

[mortal breach]

I love that Warp Unleashed now just applies to all damage, instead of just warp attacks

[gilded viper]

I mean if they don’t have any deflector I’d take the t4

[gilded viper]

Yah

Revolver psyker

[mortal breach]

Does Warp Absorption have a hidden cooldown? Also does the charged Illisi count as multiple warp attacks?

[spark oxide]

You want sum gun?

[kind jay]

he has ONLY guns a 1 purg staff

only lasguns rofl

[gilded viper]

Warp absorption is peril loss on kill right? I’ve had that trigger multiple times in a row before, so I don’t think there’s a timer. Also I think for “multiple hit” it has to be multiple attacks, not just 1 attack with cleave

[mortal breach]

It's the toughness gain on warp attack

[gilded viper]

Oh. Idk, I’ve never used it

Is Warp Attacks still only Brain Burst or?

[graceful aurora]

This is my collection of rewards from 3 months ago, it might be why I took a break... Behold the Axenetic

Might be fine now but in Dec these were worse than useless.

[mortal breach]

I was under the impression that any skill or weapon that consumed peril was a warp attack. Charged swords, staff attacks, BB. I still don't know if soulblaze kills are warp attacks, or if an enemy killed by indirect warp attacks count

IE falling off a cliff after getting pushed

[gilded viper]

Idk. I just remember somebody saying the bonus damage after brain burst talent worked on all damage except brain burst. Even force weapons, which one would think was “warp damage.”

[mortal breach]

I would hope since swords have a "Warp Damage" stat

[gilded viper]

This is Fatshark we’re talking about here.

[cloud sequoia]

the thrust sword good?

[cyan notch]

yea

[gilded viper]

The deimos? Jury’s out on that one, can probably 1 shot a crusher with minimal setup tho.

I like how it looks too

[safe crystal]

Warp attacks are force sword attacks, trauma and void strike in their entirety, and surge LMB. Or at least thats how it was

[mortal breach]

My illis is not counting as a warp attack for the sake of warp absorption

[wintry plover]

I assume this stacks? Because it seems terrible at first glance.

[safe crystal]

Stacks 4 times, up to 20% power. Not sure about the new stacks, but they were the same as warp nexus, which was changed this patch

[gilded viper]

Every 20% peril up to a 20% power increase at 80% peril. Is good

Unstable-slaughterer or deflector-slaughterer are likely the go to blessings for fs going forward

[mortal breach]

the wording on that perk sucks

[gilded viper]

The fatshark special

[ornate hamlet]

Reminds me of that other Perk where it originally said you'd get more crit per empty chamber, but instead it was a flat multiplier based on ammo % missing

lol

They fixed that this patch

[gilded viper]

Crucian Roulette got reworked this patch as well.

[ornate hamlet]

Just a heads up by the way. The two new Force Swords supposedly have Deflector inbuilt

Enjoy

[terse saffron]

this any good?

[gilded viper]

Sauce?

[ornate hamlet]

Forums. Bug reports. Hol up

[kind jay]

oof

[safe crystal]

This is definitely not intended, it'll get fixed asap because its a nice thing for psykers

[ornate hamlet]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/both-new-force-swords-have-deflector-effect-by-default/77225/2

[gilded viper]

For sure.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh, most likely. But it's interesting to see that it was originally an intended feature, not a Blessing.

[kind jay]

yeah they should remove innate deflector. and then change it to innate slaughter

[sonic coral]

I kind of figured it was that way what with the block being a literal forcefield even with NO block-related blessings or feats

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone tried the stabby Force Sword yet? Only tried MKV variant. Damn it's nice.

[gilded viper]

Deimos seems fine.

[terse saffron]

make it innate for force swords and move the blessing to dueling swords instead? could be nice

[brave plume]

I did the numbers, they nerfed it hard

[safe crystal]

The stabby one does single target and armour damage better than the others, but sacrifices horde clear for it. The H2 especially is nuts

[gilded viper]

I’ve wanted innate deflector since the word go.

I don’t even care about the bcr

[brave plume]

I got deflector on a very shitty low level FS but hey, can earn it (when I get a decent one lol)

[brave plume]

Might not be bad with flame staff for hordes

[mortal breach]

Deflector has multiple ranks too but I only have the lowest one 😦

[brave plume]

Same, but fuck it

[gilded viper]

Deimos with trauma or purge could be good

[brave plume]

My Psyker isn’t even 30 yet

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah on Revolver and Autoguns. Pretty mean.

[brave plume]

it's like... can they even math??

[kind jay]

man i tried blood on illy without slaughter (because thanks hadron) and it feels so good

i wnat both

[brave plume]

4% (I only have T3) per 10% mag was WAY better then .5% or w/e per bullet which will max out at like half?

[pearl lion]

I'm pretty sure surge is quite good

[ornate hamlet]

Really only gives you extra Block Efficiency. The ranks are 3 / 6 / 9 / 12. Not really missing out much. You take the Trait that lets you take Blocked Damage as Peril Overheat instead of Stamina Damage and you're golden either way.

[gilded viper]

All the staves are good right now fortunately

[pearl lion]

Surge blessing, not staff

[mortal crest]

What set of blessings should I be looking for in a Blaze Force Sword?

The Illisi in particular.

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector, Slaughterer. Ez.

[gilded viper]

Slaughterer/Deflector/Unstable Power

[mortal breach]

Yeah but If I'm going to put a blessing on, I'd rather have the best

[ornate hamlet]

Everything else is way too niche

[mortal crest]

Aight bet thanks.

I had deflector, wasn't quite sure about the other.

[safe crystal]

Slaughterer + bloodthirsty/unstable/deflector

[pearl lion]

I believe surge works on the charged shot so you can do two big ol VS charged shots

If it's for melkbux I'd probably pick it up if only for that blessing. I think it's t4 exclusive, so rare

[manic halo]

So how are the new buffs feeling siblings

[gilded viper]

Neat

[ornate hamlet]

Delicious.

Sweet sweet buffs. You know they won't last.

I don't feel judged now

[brave plume]

Not always possible, having solid runner ups with BIS is good enough

[ornate hamlet]

I am judging you right now. Step back from the keyboard and put down the Psyker Character RIGHT NOW.

[daring nexus]

I just don’t think AB kills fast enough

[mortal breach]

So yeah; Illis charged attack is currently not counting as a warp attack, so it does not trigger Warp Absorption

Which means I can't get infinite toughness from wholesale slaughter

sad boi hours

[ornate hamlet]

🫴 💨 🧰

[silent coral]

saw this devil claw in melks shop. never actually used a devil claw sword before is this good or worth?

[ornate hamlet]

Bitch.

[void reef]

i personally really like that specific mark it has good anti horde attack patterns

the parry's kind of a meme but has decent damage

[cyan notch]

@viral solstice

[silent coral]

are the blessings good or do i need to replace any?

[ornate hamlet]

[leaden thunder]

that is

[viral solstice]

alas

[leaden thunder]

an hammerclaw

[viral solstice]

the claw of devils

well i mean if u like devil claws that is a devil claw

[ornate hamlet]

Bonk sword

[viral solstice]

i would suggest testing it first tho

[mortal breach]

That's perhaps the best devils claw I've ever seen

[ornate hamlet]

Blade so blunt it gets 2 stagger blessings at tier 4

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly, no. The only Clawsword that is worth a damn is the MK II variant, because it has the nicest Light Attack combo in the game. Left-right-swipes in a perfect 90degree horizontal angle, that always line up with the heads of most trash mobs. Terrible weapon against Ogryn and Armored Targets, though.

As a Psyker, it's not even a contest.

You either go for the Force Sword so you can play a War-Mage-Paladin-Tank or you go for the Sabre so you can slice and dice nice and easy.

Everything else in terms of melee is trash (for Psyker anyway).

[mortal breach]

dagger mains rise up

[olive ember]

Antax is broken on psyker

As is all caxes tbh

[leaden thunder]

antax is broken*

[ornate hamlet]

You can make a clawsword work nicely on a Zealot. But that's only because you can critfish so nicely with a certain setup. Still hardly the most effective.

[leaden thunder]

claw sword is stilll crap on zealot

[viral solstice]

antax aka bad rashad

[olive ember]

Taxe and knife are also both usable on psyker

[leaden thunder]

I have used it alot half meming

and like

yeah it's usble

[ornate hamlet]

What setup?

[rare sand]

Heard something about new blessings for force swords?¿

[olive ember]

Literally anything

[ornate hamlet]

Wrong. New Force Swords, not new Blessings for Force Swords.

[leaden thunder]

brutal momentum and headtaker/decimator

[olive ember]

You can run an antax on any build

[viral solstice]

nono i show u wat u need

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/110Mts4Ux47TOZ/d1337isq4o0p?invite=cr-MSxsTXksMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

a mere 1500 crit w/ no carapace roll

[ornate hamlet]

Setup?

[viral solstice]

thats uh

a rashad

[cyan notch]

it will be bad rashad when they fix it

[viral solstice]

wrong rashad is better rn

hitboxes are fake

antax fake

rashad real

open ur fourth eye

but ye the setup is literally just

warp unleashed

6 warp charges

high peril

hit crushers in the face

[cyan notch]

achlys > all

[rose lily]

man... seeing the buff/debuff icon for terrifying barrage looks like it's only effective for 1 second, maybe less

[leaden thunder]

I mean

it applies the supression

then goes away

it's not a buff on you

they just added them to activation blessings to show you they work

[ornate hamlet]

Would have been nice if they gave ALL blessings that treatment. 😛

[leaden thunder]

you can see them all now

[ornate hamlet]

Why does that make Rashad better? I thought Antax can do the same thing.

[viral solstice]

oh its partly meme partly serious

if u can hit the hits

rashad is literally just better antax

because its heavies are faster

and have better weakspot damage

antax heavies are notably slower

but yee im just 2 rashad pilled rn ive snorted too much

i cant go back

but frankly if u get a nicely rolled one its much more usable than the memes suggest and the faster heavies really make killing lots of eg bulwarks feel nice

[viral solstice]

slaps the shit out of boss shields too

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10ZOTzrIoCnAEZ/d13370MtSxzS?invite=cr-MSw1MnEsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

like u can just chain on bulwarks forever

ees nice

[pine relic]

Do I even want deflector if I'm using wrap unleashed

[long wharf]

okay FartShart changed something with purge

it feels like it more reliably staggers enemies now

[cyan notch]

ragers?

[long wharf]

nah, ragers still ignore it, which is fine

[cyan notch]

didnt notice anything from the couple of games i played

[long wharf]

is unstable power still garbage?

[ornate hamlet]

Of course. You can gain Warp Peril even easier

[long wharf]

the text description didn't change

[cyan notch]

unstable has been good

it always stacked up to 20 but now i guess it got buffed since they fixed thresholds to 20/40/60/80

[olive ember]

I mean if you want 20% power is alright

gotta play at 80% peril but yeah atleast it actually works properly now

[ornate hamlet]

20% power is damage + stagger. Don't forget that. Infinitely better than just +dmg

[olive ember]

eh

I mean Personally I'd run deflector over unstable power

[spice veldt]

as well as cleave

[olive ember]

mostly for the cleave tbh, most weapons dmg kinda becomes irrelevant once you have enough

[spice veldt]

no amount of cleave will save the achlys' h1

[rose lily]

right, it just seems like it lasts for too short a time, have you checked it out since the update?

[leaden thunder]

it's actual duration shouldn't have changed

[sonic coral]

wildfire seems... interesting, but I don't know if it's worth it with purg and AB

[leaden thunder]

from my understanding it's super not worth with purge

but it could be interesting with a blazing spirit build on the truma/void

[sonic coral]

oo yea that's a neat thought

[edgy hearth]

Does weak spot hit work on Trauma right click?

[spice veldt]

nope; only if kinetic flayer procs

[edgy hearth]

Guessing that kinetic flayer doesn't significantly help with the peril usage on that staff then

[blissful dirge]

I was under the impression that Kinetic Flayer didnt generate peril

so if you were looking to gain MORE peril, yes it wouldnt help.

[long wharf]

it does not

[spice veldt]

they meant if flayer procced Transfer Peril

[long wharf]

it should

it's a headshot

[spice veldt]

in the sense of Flayer quelling peril because it procced it

[blissful dirge]

ah. fair.

[long wharf]

the BB is free, and you benefit from it as if you did it intentionally

[blissful dirge]

completely unrelated topic. the Illisi seems very good. but I dont do the harder stuff.

[long wharf]

whoa whoa whoa

the Deimos fsword has a dodge distance of +8.6??

[spice veldt]

an actually positive dodge distance yup

[blissful dirge]

does it still have unlimited dodge?

[long wharf]

yes

[blissful dirge]

speedrunner sword!

[spice veldt]

it also has the dodge speed stat unlike other force swords

[long wharf]

nah, no decreased stamina usage for sprint

and the sprint boost is ... small.

[forest coral]

after some practice with it, it has similar horde clear with obscurus

Its actually pretty damn strong but im trying to find a time to sensibly use the special over heavy thrust

[blissful dirge]

yeah but chained dodges (specially with that positive dodge) you can just shuffle your way through a map

[forest coral]

the heavy thrust alone does more damage than a charge thrust in alot of cases

or chains more effectively

[daring nexus]

Use the first light and second heavy for a double thrust

[long wharf]

I was hoping the deimos special was different

[olive ember]

Deimos has better dodge

[long wharf]

much better dodge

[olive ember]

i think the single taret combo is light 1 into heavy 2

the horde clear combo is heavy 1 into light 2

[forest coral]

Heavy into light 2 yeah

and rinse repeat

I think would be fairly optimal on purg and ab builds

[daring nexus]

The first heavy didn’t seem that good for hoard clear to me

[forest coral]

its not good

[olive ember]

it isn't

[forest coral]

its funcitonal

[olive ember]

but its the best we have on the deimos

[forest coral]

much like obscurus with animation cancel was

[olive ember]

honestly I just prefer the obscurus

[daring nexus]

I just do the whole light combo into hoards

[olive ember]

the h2 on the obscurus was more sideways than it was verticle

Lmb spam on deimos is passable but

[forest coral]

diagonal slices definitely made obscurus much better than what alot of credit was given

Deimos is a slightly shittier version of it but

functions practically the same

[spice veldt]

prob easier to drag your mouse with it

[forest coral]

the advantage being deimos will clap any elites that happen to be caught with the horde

[spice veldt]

compared to a straight up strikedown at least

[forest coral]

ye

also the thrusting and bigger dodge distance makes this a very good sword for 1v1ing elites and monsties

[spice veldt]

it's an especially terrible idea to light combo into hordes with force swords

because their lights only have 2 cleave while the heavies have 6

[daring nexus]

Haven’t used the obscurus since before the patch but just today the demos hoard clear seemed better to me

[spice veldt]

the base damage stats of force swords was buffed

[forest coral]

deimos is easier to do

no need to right click cancel

can simply chain heavy> light> heavy light etc

same results

and then snipe any elite withthrusts

[rose lily]

the dodge distance is really nice too

[forest coral]

ye

the dodge is honestly what makes it fairly goated

like its not as faceroll as illi is

but this thing is def a strong weapon

and i dunno if they patched it yet

but this weapon seems to have its own deflector for time being

[daring nexus]

Definitely will be hotfixed soon

[forest coral]

deflector such a dumb blessing

[olive ember]

fk you

[forest coral]

my hot take is all fs should come with it in the weapon already

[olive ember]

deflector is amazing

oh

nvrm

Yes

[forest coral]

lel

[spice veldt]

i do not want to be guardbroken by ranged attacks

[forest coral]

like ur clearly warp blocking

[green phoenix]

is exorcist better than executor?

[spice veldt]

if we could turn it on and off

[olive ember]

lolno

[ornate hamlet]

It being in the new Force Swords kinda suggest that was original design intent

[spice veldt]

on the Illis and Obscurus, i'd say definitively yes

Illis will always break the chain with the special, and Obscurus has cancelling as part of its combo

you're not really going to reach full stacks very often with those two variants, so I'd prefer exorcist where I really only need two swings to make use of it

[forest coral]

yeahh, weird decsiion to take it out

[ornate hamlet]

They probably just wanted filler content so there is more Blessings

[feral verge]

Cuz 10 blessings (not including deflector) weren't enough

[forest coral]

more rng time gate

to pad out casino treadmill

[feral verge]

Dueling swords meanwhile only have 5

That said, the only truly decent blessing for them is shred

The rest are meh/personal preference

[viral solstice]

they should give duelling swords unstable power

and uhh

and fire

and also glowing

just one that makes them glow

[celest hedge]

i feel like reposte and precog are fairly easy to do since you can dodge around alot in combat, and I don't know how much of a difference rending makes but you swing so fast and can land headshots easy so you can get that stacked up

[viral solstice]

riposte is at least functional

precog numerically does nothing

basically u know how it says crit and weakspot damage

u would assume it would apply 2x to crit weakspots

in fact... it applies once

[bright brook]

is there a staff good for taking out specials/elites?

[viral solstice]

and yeah the way crits and weakspots are calculated makes precog fake

BUT

[celest hedge]

crit chance is always better than crit damage, especially with the difference in numbers

[viral solstice]

if u invest in precog now

[spice veldt]

and +weakspot/crit dmg having an extremely terrrible calculation

[compact cargo]

forge sword blessing pool is shit, where is my slaughterer and head taker?

[viral solstice]

u will make HUGE money

when they buff precog

[olive ember]

Precog is rly rly shit

but hey

[spice veldt]

we have no single-target DPS force staff so far

[viral solstice]

to be fair precog isnt as bad as surge staff

so its got that going for it

[olive ember]

surely they'll give significant buff to precog

[feral verge]

Take the precog pill

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

.>

[feral verge]

Get precognition. Literally

[viral solstice]

i see u calling an awful lot of thigns bad

for somebody who unironically runs surge staff

[olive ember]

Fk you surge staff is amazing

best staff in game

[viral solstice]

[feral verge]

On M A L I C E

[olive ember]

once it gets buffed It'll blow all the other staffs out of the water ;-;

[feral verge]

Purga best staff

[olive ember]

unironically its fucking useless on malice I legit only run gun psyker on malice kek

it spawns like one mutant every 5 minutes

[viral solstice]

until they put surge blessing on surge staff

its unusable

[feral verge]

Purga is the staff I take when I really want to secure the dub

[viral solstice]

imagine u surge when u surge

and then u surge

and then the surge surges

and u surge AGAIN

[kind jay]

who uses staves really? all i need is a zippo and some spray paint

[feral verge]

Staff special only. I carry in damnation with that

[viral solstice]

⚡

[forest coral]

No more staff

[viral solstice]

control ze elements

[forest coral]

Only funny dick sword

[iron marten]

We have a dick sword now?

[bold flint]

absolute sook of a psyker complaining that we picked up grims on malice

[olive ember]

I def would complain

fuck grims

[forest coral]

Deimos sword

[olive ember]

fucking grims

[blissful dirge]

cause you cant block for SHIT mate.

[olive ember]

ruining my fun

smh

[forest coral]

It even has a weird bulge at the tip

And it’s a thrusting sword

[bold flint]

why was that directed at me

[iron marten]

The Dildon't

[blissful dirge]

cause the psyker was ME

[forest coral]

The forbidden

[bold flint]

alright and? nobody died

[ornate hamlet]

Gonna thrust that sword into a beast of nurgles gaping maw

[olive ember]

but thats not the weakspot for Bons tho

[spice veldt]

still deals more damage than the rest of the body iirc

[olive ember]

Yes but muh weak point multiplier

[plucky perch]

i have used random que on heresy 8 times, i have gotten shock trooper gauntlet and failed 8 times XD i feel like trash

[ornate hamlet]

Just make it a weakspot

[unkempt onyx]

I’m zealot main, I’m going to make a psyker for a flame sword build

[olive ember]

Don’t worry there’s a high chance it’s the team

Try running damnation

Better teammates

[plucky perch]

ehh ive done failed enough ill give it a try though i dont feel the last one was my team mates fault

[kind jay]

youd think so

LOL

[olive ember]

I did one heresy shock trooper literally by accident and yeah I was hard carrying

[feral verge]

Once I started playing damnation, I never looked back

[plucky perch]

we got 3 muties and 4 tox flamers and 2 hounds at once

[feral verge]

It makes you a better player, and you get better teams

[olive ember]

You see that becomes my state of mind

And then I accidentally go down to heresy

And I realize just how much worse it really is

[compact cargo]

Occasionally you still get shield ogryns that do nothing

[plucky perch]

yeah one of em was a shield ogryn

[olive ember]

Sounds about right, I had to solo clutch and I was dealing with like 1 bulwark two trappers a flamer and a hound

[feral verge]

Or John Darktide vets who try to have a hero moment alone and die

[plucky perch]

honestly i cant solo clutch i panic to hard

[forest coral]

Don’t

Stay calm

[olive ember]

You don’t want to

But we’ll

Sometimes you gotta do what you can I guess

[spice veldt]

200iq pop beta blockers

[unkempt onyx]

Don’t stay calm

[feral verge]

Or oblivious vets who just let themselves get roflstomped cuz they don't know how to look around for player pings for healing/defensive holdouts

[compact cargo]

barrel kill your teamates

only trust other psykers

[olive ember]

Just select your background as veterans so you will never panic

Ez pz

[forest coral]

https://streamable.com/dwoiy0 https://streamable.com/m0t48e

psyker may not have crazy damage output but

we got the flexibility

and stam regen to deal with most bad situations

[spice veldt]

esp with the quell buffs now

psykers have so little downtime

[forest coral]

aye

[feral verge]

The flexibility is my fav part of psyker

[forest coral]

like the stam regen this class has

[primal plume]

I found a new funny mechanic. Using the 6 stack with quicken, you can get ult every 3 seconds back to back

[forest coral]

enables us to do so much shit other classes would struggle to pull off

[feral verge]

I can use any staff/weapon combo really (other than guns) and be able to handle any situation

[forest coral]

Illi sword pretty much has enabled gunker

[feral verge]

Whereas on other classes I might see a sniper that's too far and just hope a teammate can kill it so I don't have to run over there to get it/spend 30 seconds widdling it down

I enjoy the self reliance

[forest coral]

the best part of bb is like

if u have an asshole sniper across the map

with like one pixel of their head showing

you'll take them out by jumpinh and holding down lmb

[feral verge]

Sometimes if the sniper is by a railing, bb won't target them

[forest coral]

whereas even good vets will struggle under pressure to get a bead down at that distance

[feral verge]

Yet they can still hit you

[forest coral]

ye

well, fatshart pls fix

[kind jay]

try primary firing near them, it can force them to move

[forest coral]

ye back to clutching tho

[kind jay]

unless you use purg then i guess just get domed

[feral verge]

I use purga

[forest coral]

most of the fails i see result from disabler or carapace units

[feral verge]

For me, it's muties

[forest coral]

because most classes dont build towards that armor type so they take too long to bring down

[feral verge]

I've had a lot of easy clutch moments, snatched by a dumb mutie

[forest coral]

yeh

[spice veldt]

my dodges always get blocked by a stray enemy

[forest coral]

2+ mutie during horde in clutch situation usually ends it for me if there are also shooters involved

[spice veldt]

though that enemy is usually to my side because i accidentally trauma staffed it to my side

[feral verge]

Besides purga, trauma is THE clutch staff imo

[spice veldt]

2+ muties is doable unless their charge is staggered so perfectly that the other mutie will catch you between your dodges

[viral solstice]

its never doable

[feral verge]

Voidstrike helps prevent clutch situations

[viral solstice]

this is a fact

why?

because ur dead

[feral verge]

But when it's clutch time you want a trauma or purga with you

[forest coral]

happens surprisingly often haha

[viral solstice]

why are u dead?

not enough jrot

[spice veldt]

:(

[viral solstice]

i have a theory

that mutants get 400% grab spaghetti

when ur doin something else

they just summon it from the italy dimension

[feral verge]

False, because

Italy isn't real

[viral solstice]

oh u right

[feral verge]

Italy never happened

[viral solstice]

ok they summon it from the hypothetical yet to be proven italy dimension

[feral verge]

Yes

[plucky perch]

this is going to sound like blashpemy but i honestly dont like any of our current staffs like i liked seinas

[spice veldt]

i hate CC weapons

[feral verge]

Not blasphemy

[viral solstice]

yeah thats fair the staves are all pretty mid and none really fuck shit up

[feral verge]

All of sienna's staves had unique lmbs

But ours don't :/

[viral solstice]

they are all parameterised super weak because of infinite ammo

and the default left click is fuked up

[spice veldt]

i don't think it's because of infinite ammo but just because of the CC

[viral solstice]

so u just kind of end up with a bunch of mid sticks

[feral verge]

Purga only fucks shit up with ascendant blaze. Without it, it becames ok.

[viral solstice]

totally usable

[kind jay]

imagine wiping to muties or armor - this message paid for by biggest brain surge psykers. all 2 of us

[viral solstice]

i mean that too but eg purg vs flamer

flamer actually flames

but in theory is limited

purg is just obviously tuned weaker

u no how it be

they are scared of space wizard

have too strong magik stik

this is simple fact

shark always fear

[rocky cedar]

Just shoot them with autopistol instead

It's bigger brain

[viral solstice]

[feral verge]

Yeah but you wipe to everything else cuz you can't kill it lmaooo lmaooo lol lmaoo lmfao lol

[plucky perch]

fellow spark heads

what curious perks should i be going for if i want to break into damnation?

[feral verge]

• brought to you by e ery other staff that can actually presently CC enemies by outright killing them

[viral solstice]

wait what if they put a force sword

on the end of a staff

so when u press staff special

u just hit ppl with force sword on a stick

[feral verge]

Stack hp, or toughness. Maybe 1 + 3 stamina curio if you fancy

[kind jay]

i mean, surge > illy special x2 kills them at t5

without any danger to me

[cyan notch]

fireball and conflag were the same pretty sure

[plucky perch]

i have 2205 halth and one wound

[rocky cedar]

2 toughness 1 stamina is my favourite combo and it's not close

[plucky perch]

20% health

[feral verge]

I do not recommend using wound curios

[spice veldt]

i also run 2 toughness and 1 stamina, especially with the quell buffs that make quietude insanely good

[rocky cedar]

For most people 2 toughness 1 health or vice versa is more desirable

[plucky perch]

ty ill switch things up

[cyan notch]

3x health

[lethal lagoon]

Quell buffs plus the illy sword generating peril really fast seems like it might be time to go back to toughness curios.

[feral verge]

For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary

[spice veldt]

although if you have a stubborn playstyle and want to adapt your build to your playstyle and not vice versa, running wounds is fine

[lethal lagoon]

Also, most wipes happen when 1 player goes down in a bad spot and the team tries to save him. So more wounds is basically more chances to nuke your team.

[rocky cedar]

Wounds are relying on your team to actually get you back up when you go down

[lethal lagoon]

Sometimes if you are struggling it's better to just die.

[plucky perch]

how high does the toghness curios get?

[lethal lagoon]

17

[feral verge]

17 + 5

[rocky cedar]

It also pre-supposes it won't in fact be you having to revive team mates to save the run

[feral verge]

HP is 21 + 5

Max HP possible on psyker is 267

[rocky cedar]

In my experience that is very often the case

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, extra wounds does jack shit if you are the last one alive

Or in a bad spot where they can't help

[plucky perch]

is toughness regeneration speed at all solid? i tend to almost always be in coherency of my team

[feral verge]

Toughness Regen is very good

I don't leave home without it

[lethal lagoon]

Psykers are almost always in coherency so I run 90% simply because unless you use deflector there's nothing else you really NEED.

[plucky perch]

dozens of hours playing ogryn even is psyker is my favorite...concept

[feral verge]

90% toughness Regen speed is a lot

[plucky perch]

and to double check damage reduction bombers is bugged right?

[lethal lagoon]

I like to have at least one revive spd to, because the number of times I've failed a revive at 95% is too uch to count.

[cyan notch]

absolutely not

i rather have resist or more hp or toughness

than faster res on noobs

[lethal lagoon]

Resist to what?

[cyan notch]

snipe

[feral verge]

Gunner or sniper

[full egret]

did anyone else notice that they increased the perils cost for bb

[lethal lagoon]

I legitmately just forgot I run sniper on two of my curios.

[cyan notch]

its still 45

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe you got used to the warp resist feat and stopped using it?

[rocky cedar]

Sniper resist is the only resist I will run

[lethal lagoon]

I like gunner and sniper on ogryn. But gunner on psyker would just be silly.

[rocky cedar]

Sometimes the game decides the sniper is going to shoot at the same time as the audio visual cue you just eat shit

[lethal lagoon]

A silent sniper took out 3 members of my team once, it was geniunely crazy.

By silent I mean delayed sound and visual.

[feral verge]

My ideal would be 3x HP curio. HP, toughness, and toughness Regen perks on 2. 1 curio with sniper resist

[spice veldt]

smh wasn't the cue from your character enough /s

[feral verge]

This guy is bad

Should be able to dodge silent and even invisible enemies

Stay in malice buddy

[lethal lagoon]

Force sword has infinite dodges. It's honestly gross you aren't just constantly dodgeing as move tech.

[spice veldt]

somebody in this chat had a video of them getting pounced by an invisible dog

[feral verge]

Crab?

I bet it's crab

[spice veldt]

i think it was the other members

[full egret]

yeah that was it, clicked off apparently somehow. Using warp resist just makes the class actually function.

[spice veldt]

skaleek, keemo, tekuki, etc.

[lethal lagoon]

Eh, with the new peril buffs and quietutude I can't see myself running warp resist ever again.

[spice veldt]

oh it was iceslow I think?

[lethal lagoon]

Plus warp unleashed being super buffed

[feral verge]

Warp unleashed fucks now

[lethal lagoon]

^

[magic burrow]

at least you were never stalked by a bot. Something funky happened a week ago and every time I started a game, the same bot would be in the lobby

[full egret]

I saw it got more damage and applied to everything

[lethal lagoon]

My BB 2 shots crushers on t5. Like damn. Does it feel nice.

[spice veldt]

witness the most visible dog ever #psyker-class message

[feral verge]

Dickot gaming?

[full egret]

Also having issues that pox walkersgrab my force sword charge lmao.

I'll clearly hit a target, then a pox walker walks directly infront of me and his head exploseds instead

[spice veldt]

that happened to me twice when I wanted to hit a mutant

[feral verge]

Illisi luckily doesn't have that problem

[magic burrow]

No, Doran https://puu.sh/JCyHs/ddd7005667.jpg

[full egret]

true, but its still a worse power sword

[lethal lagoon]

??

Illy is bae.

[full egret]

at least its really good at keeping high peril, if annoying

[feral verge]

I'm a big fan of the dickot bot

Illisi fucks

[lethal lagoon]

The OG Force sword is only better if you are a cheating macro user.

cough cough

Not me ever.

[magic burrow]

I dont know if this says something about veterans that Darktide seems fit to put vet bots in lobbies, or if its just a funny coincidence

[spice veldt]

tbf, you can QQ cancel manually if you set up your keybinds right

[feral verge]

There are only vet bots

[lethal lagoon]

If vet bots didn't just randomly yolo into elite hordes, they'd honestly be better than 90% of vet players.

[magic burrow]

I know, but theyre not supposed to be in lobbies

[plucky perch]

i wonder what made chubbyshork decide to give us a primary thats semi auto, has travel time, a cast delay, AND it cant even one shot pox walkers

[viscid cedar]

is this even worth the melk bux

[rocky cedar]

I mean if you want meme fire void that seems like a good one

[feral verge]

If you want the meta/best in slot void, that's not it

[viscid cedar]

what is?

[feral verge]

Warp flurry + transfer peril blessings

Flak + unarmored perks

[wide tiger]

when your light is better than your heavy?

[feral verge]

Lol

[cyan notch]

its like that for chainsword too i think

and a bunch of stuff

[spice veldt]

chad stab vs virgin sweep

[feral verge]

Dueling sword mk2 I think

Has that

[wide tiger]

is it a sweep?

they kinda messed up labeling the attack chains in gui

I'm still working on getting a decent ilisi havent touched deimos yet

[spice veldt]

deimos' 1st light is a stab

speaking of which, why tf is it a strikedown

[wide tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pine relic]

Its second heavy deals the most damage, the first heavy is vanguard.

[cold geode]

holy crap the reroll mod goes fast now

[weak sapphire]

What is the difference between the psyker swords: Illsi and Deimos?

[cold geode]

ills = horde clear
deimos = single target

[weak sapphire]

Thanks

[ornate hamlet]

Illisi also has a special that doesn't lock onto one enemy and buffs a single sword slash

It's the only FS with a special that allows hitting more than one enemy

[weak sapphire]

I dont understand the difference between Deimos and the old obscuros?

[spice veldt]

different attack combos, but the specials seem the same so far to me (haven't really tested the deimos)

[weak sapphire]

ok 🙂

[spice veldt]

the Deimos has a heavy stab that deals a buttload of damage

[cyan notch]

specials are the same yes

[sleek pebble]

so if i wanna use illisi what staff to pair? cause lightning has been feeling like a crutch

[cyan notch]

u can use it with anything

[spice veldt]

though prob the best with surge to cover up your hordeclear

[rocky cedar]

Deimos seems to be focused on non special attack single target and mobility

Doesn't it have a higher dodge distance?

[spice veldt]

ye

and it has a dodge speed stat unlike the other force swords on its mobility card

[cyan notch]

it also has pretty damn good horde clear

[rocky cedar]

Heavy light rotation?

[cyan notch]

yea or u can spam lights too

they are pretty fast im almost certain faster than obscurus

[rocky cedar]

Well yeah with those dodges you can probably get away with a lot

[spice veldt]

the 2nd/3rd/4th lights on the deimos are all sweeps, though I probably wouldn't spam the lights if I could

[weak sapphire]

if I save a blessing at that Hardon guy. How many times can I use that blessing, just once?

[rocky cedar]

Infinite dodges with positive dodge distance

[cyan notch]

stab on first light is massive you can 1 shot dreg bruisers even

[rocky cedar]

Infinite times

[weak sapphire]

THanks!

[cyan notch]

previously on obscurus u needed to do some lame light into heavy and that sometimes didnt even kill dreg bruisers

now u just poke 1 light dead

[weak sapphire]

Running with purgestaff. Could I change anything on my sword?

[rocky cedar]

That looks great to me

[cold geode]

yea

looks good

[cyan notch]

u could get 25% maniac

[weak sapphire]

Ok, gotta do some rolling. I liked the new Deimos sword though. But rolling this sword costed me so many mats 😦

[rocky cedar]

That's fine honestly it's pretty close to perfect

Should serve you great for farming more mats

[weak sapphire]

Nice, i was lucky buying it at the req, good base and then I managed to get slaughterer from my deimos 🙂

[magic burrow]

https://puu.sh/JCySY/a19de8ebe5.png

these blessings are ass, right

[feral verge]

unstable power is good

precog sucks

[magic burrow]

it is?

[feral verge]

yes

at 80% or higher peril, t4 unstable power is 25% power boost

combine that with warp unleashed and 6 stacks of warp battery

74% dmg boost

not to be scoffed at

and unstable power is at it's best on illisi, because you can spam charge the special attack

repeatedly

to keep peril up

[cyan notch]

replace slaughterer with precog and ur pogging irl

other way round

[feral verge]

yeah i have a slaughterer unstable power illisi and it fucks

[magic burrow]

ahh, seems like a good investment then

[edgy finch]

worth for anything? is blazing spirit good on void? i have surge i can bless onto it as well

I think ill grab it either way for the blessings, even if just to farm them. staff seems like a decent roll

[wide tiger]

keep flurry

put transfer peril, you win

perks are meh but w/e

[edgy finch]

25% carapace no good for void?

im just getting into min-maxing my builds

[forest coral]

Carapace rubbish for void

[snow scaffold]

Does the new force sword have power cycler? I read the patch notes and couldn't find where you can see all the blessings

[pine relic]

No

[spice veldt]

same blessings; they share the same blessing pool (you can transfer blessings from obscurus over to Deimos/Illisi and vice versa)

[hard oyster]

Illis sword plus surge feels good

[spice veldt]

Illisi is basically the devil's claw but it has slaughterer

[snow scaffold]

I think I played 6 games with 3 psykers including myself, I lost all but one game.

[tired notch]

swap carp for crit?

[cyan notch]

have u tried winning

[cold geode]

carapace + flak (already has carp on it) or carapace + unarmored on deimos?

[spice veldt]

psyker teams tend to get really fucked in the chasm terminus assasination mission

[cyan notch]

thats just everyone

[spice veldt]

true, though I do think that our lack of surgical burst DPS can gimp us

and god damn purg psykers never switching to their melee

[snow scaffold]

Yeah I've tried but random psyker players usually aren't the best melee users

[pine relic]

Avoid high intensity or special conditions in case your teammates are dead weights

[snow scaffold]

Plus it's probably returning players from our main classes

Kinda hard to make a comeback when there's a horde and elites on you and you're by yourself

[spice veldt]

esp with those fucking assassination bosses sapping all of your toughness with a single shot

[wide tiger]

its so refreshing to see force swords in the armour

y

[cyan notch]

and then they fire it infinitely at you

[wide tiger]

just dodge back when his shield gets close to 33% and you dodge it

and then weave back in

[snow scaffold]

But that was before I found out how good force blade V is

[wide tiger]

ive gotten real good at dodging that aoe

[spice veldt]

it's about 50% ish

[wide tiger]

Its definitely 33%

lol

[spice veldt]

i was referring to their gun attack shooty thing

[pine relic]

plasma gun or shot gun

[spice veldt]

50%

[wide tiger]

its not 50% unless your dps is so low on it that its just going off

[snow scaffold]

You just dodge around him and he won't be able to shoot you

[spice veldt]

they gain access to it at 50%

[cyan notch]

its definitely around the 40-50 range

[wide tiger]

everytime ive dodged it, its around 33% and i dodge it pretty much everytime

[snow scaffold]

But you need to be in his face

[spice veldt]

I can dodge it too, but that's besides the point

it's certainly around the halfway mark rather than 33%

[pine relic]

I remember that the plasma gun generates 1% peril if you have the deflector.

[wide tiger]

You have the code to back that up or you're just saying that?

[cyan notch]

if theyre animation locked when they reach the threshold they will take longer for them to activate it

[wide tiger]

sure

[spice veldt]

breh

[wide tiger]

but i want to know

[spice veldt]

i'll look around my gameplay footage

[wide tiger]

Because ive tested it a lot and I want to know if they just take forever, or if its for sure 50%

[kind jay]

the captain shields explodey thing?

[wide tiger]

yes

[kind jay]

yeah thats low af shields

i dont have numbers either but definitely closer to it being gone

[wide tiger]

For me its always sub 33% but i also dont really dick around when dps'ing him so maybe hes got multiple trigger factors

and i dont have anything but conjecture

[spice veldt]

he gains access to the attack, so that doesn't mean he immediately uses it

[wide tiger]

Yes i heard you

[spice veldt]

e.g., if he's in the middle of a combo, he'll finish the combo first

[cyan notch]

its sub 33 cuz hes locked doing some animation most of the time

[snow scaffold]

So what blessings are people recommending for the new force sword V

[wide tiger]

Yeah i get what you guys are saying

But i still hjave seen him start combos at 40% without using it

[kind jay]

slaughter pretty much bis

[wide tiger]

or charge

or switch weapons

[kind jay]

and then whatever you want. unstable power, bloodthirst is still good on illy

[wide tiger]

So you guys keep saying he gets access to it at 50% i just want to understand how you know this

[blissful dirge]

did brain burst start costing more peril this patch? I feel I used to be able to do 3 without any interuptions

but...I may JUST be dumb

[spice veldt]

i've seen him use it at around the 50% mark

[cyan notch]

just from looking at the shield bar

[spice veldt]

just that it can be as late as 33% or whatever

the point isn't the lower bound but the upper bound

[snow scaffold]

This is exactly what I wanted for psyker, a power sword bc we were so squashy before this patch

[spice veldt]

i'm not disputing that it can happen at as low as 33% or that you can DPS him down before he uses it

[wide tiger]

I never said that you were, and i understand upper bounds

I'm going to try to get him to do it at 50%

I havent been able to do it

[cyan notch]

if u really want more proof

[wide tiger]

But i will try

[wide tiger]

Thank you

saved me time

[steel egret]

Random psykers disappoint me always.

[feral verge]

best psyker i've ever seen was a random

[snow scaffold]

Heresy is full of psy players

[feral verge]

consistently only takes 80~ dmg in high int damn

[steel egret]

They use too much BB or dont know how to fire their staff or switch between them wrong in conditions.

[snow scaffold]

Best one I played with was today, but he was using a rifle and the new force sword. I legit thought he was a vet 15 mins into the game as I didn't know there were 2 new force swords. He played mostly like a vet player though

[steel egret]

Like void staff that they fire once a minute

[wide tiger]

I've been using a mk I iag just to try it out

[devout cosmos]

what would you switch out, maniac or flak?

[steel egret]

Makes me want to strangle them.

[tired estuary]

I really hope the t2 perk storm isn't a new feature and its gonna get hotfixed this week

[steel egret]

?

[snow scaffold]

Keep flak i believe

[spice veldt]

i'd reroll +flak

+maniac includes muties and dreg ragers, and you can always gun for a higher tier or +flak if you refine it

[snow scaffold]

Unarmored are the bosses, it's not smart to melee as a pskyer

[spice veldt]

why isn't it smart

[feral verge]

Replace flak with higher flak dmg

Keep maniac

[spice veldt]

we have a 0.5s stamina regen delay

[cold geode]

wrong sword, this one, unarmored, or flak?

[snow scaffold]

Cause you can't get shield quickly like the others

[wide tiger]

I love melee on psyker, you get unlimited dodge on the fs and you can spam push

like toughness?

you definitely can

just gotta be killing shit

[spice veldt]

you can definitely hit trade with enemies

unless you are performing the combos with the worst safety

[devout cosmos]

thanks for your input fellas 🙂

[spice veldt]

e.g., light->heavy on the Illisi with block-cancel to balance safety and dmg so that you can get to the push earlier

or heavy->heavy if you want to risky af

or just spam the 1st heavy with cancels if you want to be super safe

[snow scaffold]

I thought he said perk for unarmored, which are bosses

[spice veldt]

I hittraded fine with light->heavy on the obscurus fine

[hollow current]

Maniac/Flak/Unyielding are good options imo depending on what you wanna hit harder.

[wide tiger]

I try not to hit trade because i like to have the tough shield up, but every once in a while i'd take a hit and be ok

esp if you're in coherency

[spice veldt]

i always hit trade to get the kills before my teammates do

[cold geode]

thx

[wide tiger]

I mean that's cool. I try to stay alive for when my team mates inevitably go down and i have the save them :p

[spice veldt]

you can play into extremely bad positions to maximize kills cuz of stamina (and slaughterer)

smh

good teamwork

[wide tiger]

You can also just weave push in esp with slaughterer and turn yourself into a cc machine but then you kinda slow your killspeed so im not a huge fan

[spice veldt]

you can QQ cancel out of the push animation early if needed, so I don't consider it to be too big of a DPS loss

[wide tiger]

but if you need to buy someone else time to rez or something it works

[steel egret]

I got pretty good illisi day 1 of this patch, sword just has 17% mobility rest stacked.

[wide tiger]

I've been buying and rolling them

i havent gotten one with a decent perk yet

[steel egret]

I still need to get decent deimos but on that I cant skim on mobility

[wide tiger]

force swords, for whatever reason, take me an eternity to gett

[spice veldt]

i like mobility for closing the gaps on shooters

[wide tiger]

meanwhile everything else has been easy

I heard deimos mobility is sweet, looking forward to trying it

[steel egret]

My shop usually has 2-3

But they got terribad stats

[wide tiger]

Yeah i mean, i dont mind dumping mobility or warp resistance to like 60%

i can live with that, but i dont like to go too low

you can gimp the dodge so low on the fs it becomes very difficult to use

[steel egret]

On deimos I want all around 80 except warp resistance.

[wide tiger]

sure makes sense

esp for unstable power

[feral verge]

I like low warp resist on fs

Makes it easy to gain peril

[steel egret]

I dont want unstable power.

[feral verge]

It's good

[wide tiger]

I mean its ok

[feral verge]

Unstable power is good especially on illisi

[steel egret]

[wide tiger]

its a bit better than one stack of slaughterer IV

[feral verge]

T4 unstable power 25% more DMG/power at 80% peril

[steel egret]

On illisi slaughterer is above 1 whenever there are warm bodies nearby.

[summer prairie]

why do you say 25%

[feral verge]

Unstable power + warp unleashed + warp battery = 74% extra damage

[spice veldt]

t4 is 20% innit since it stacks 4 times? unless you get a stack at 100%

[feral verge]

Unstable power stacks 4 times

Yeah my b

Still

Worth it

[spice veldt]

it does edge you over for 1 extra poxwalker in your cleave probably

i'd probably prefer exorcist for spamming specials

since while you won't proc it on your special swing, if you chain into a normal attack, you'll proc it as long as you hit a weakspot in your first swing

[feral verge]

My illisi has it, with slaughterer

It's like a heavy sword

Lawn mower

[spice veldt]

if only the lights had 6 cleave

[feral verge]

High peril is very easy to upkeep with illisi

[snow scaffold]

What's the cleave of fs 5 light attack when using it's special

[feral verge]

Because you can chain/repeatedly charge special

[spice veldt]

seems to be 6?

if it's anything like the power sword, the light and heavies should have the same cleave whenever the special is activated

just that the cleave distribution on the light-specials are far worse

oh it's definitely more than 6 actually

[blazing trout]

The new force sword feels incredible

[feral verge]

There's 2

Which one

[blazing trout]

!! I was using the Deimos. Reminds me of kerilian

[snow scaffold]

Well I'm sure we know which one is getting all the hype lol

[blazing trout]

L1->H2 feels incredible

[spice veldt]

lights and heavy-specials have 11 cleave it seems or around that

[feral verge]

stab STAB

[wide tiger]

The buffs to obscurus are no joke now either

You dont even need good stats to headshot poxwalkers

[summer prairie]

deimos is much more pleasant than obscurus due to the mobility

[feral verge]

Obscurus finna fade into obscurity...

[spice veldt]

t4 slaughterer illis special into poxwalkers

[blazing trout]

I was thinking the cleave one might be fun on gun psyker

[wide tiger]

Still gotta try deimos

I'm excited that we have 3 variants

more will show up in shops, more in melks

[blazing trout]

I got a Deimos with trash warp resistance and it feels awesome. So much toughness regen

[cyan notch]

10.5 with special

[steel egret]

What did deimos special do again?

[spice veldt]

14 groaners huh

[cyan notch]

with slaughterer 5 and special

[spice veldt]

o shit it's on the calculator now

[cyan notch]

it was there pretty fast

[snow scaffold]

Deimos special does the deep Stab

[cyan notch]

deimos special is the same as obscurus

same damage

[vale creek]

is the stabby stab sword better than the mkII?

im lvl upping one o.o

not sure to worth tho

[snow scaffold]

Have you tried the MK V? It's really good

[cyan notch]

yea it has better mobility better lights better single target better boss damage

[vale creek]

mk5 isnt missing the special warp charged anim?

[hexed wedge]

Is the wildfire feat new or have I just been blind?

[vale creek]

im not sure is a bug or intended

[snow scaffold]

MK 5 does have it's own animation

[vale creek]

hmmm

mk 5 is the stabby one or the other new?

[snow scaffold]

MK 5 is basically the vet's power sword

[ornate hamlet]

Obscurus is the original, deimos is the new single-target and illisis is the horde one

[vale creek]

ye

i like the single target better

since im burning up the horde s anyways

[snow scaffold]

I need the MK 5 and other better survivability perks in heresy bc I'm usually the last one alive

[vale creek]

mhmmm

i guess ill still stick with the obscurus

[hybrid solstice]

It's not the same, it's supposed to be quicker thsn the others

[vale creek]

it does the job

[hybrid solstice]

it is a bit weaker for single target though

[forest coral]

how so

Mk5 is downward chop ds right

[hybrid solstice]

The illis FS is horizontal

[vale creek]

yupp

[forest coral]

Ooh thought we was talking bout duelling swords

My bad

[ornate hamlet]

I'd say grab illisis, a nice ranged for firefights and leave burst to deal with specials and dance around bulwarks and crushers

ez psyk

[hybrid solstice]

deimos and illis both have built in deflector i think

[forest coral]

It kills bulwarks in like 4 shots to the back charged up with unyielding

Which isn’t bad to have for mixed horde scenario

[quasi pier]

Bugged?

[ornate hamlet]

If you can kite while bursting, you already knocked down half of the class' difficulty