psyker-class

[cyan notch]

pretty nuts

[forest coral]

its not useless in this case but you do you

dang

ye im slapping the dick sword with purg for sure

[feral verge]

i swear poxburster has updated/slightly different sounds

[hoary hearth]

What do you guys think of the new swords and feats?

[humble star]

was in the notes

[weak galleon]

neat. actually good.

[feral verge]

oh

i should be banned for not remembering that

[forest coral]

All the new FS are really good

[humble star]

why, it's not like many read the smaller QoL tweaks

[forest coral]

Illisi is probably best all rounder for psykers now, Deimos stomps elites/ monsties

[olive ember]

Eh base FS is still best all rounder imo

[river sand]

as long as you go staff, maybe deimos even better, who fights horde with melee when you got staffs

[olive ember]

It’s a Deimos that can actually clear hordes

[river sand]

and it looks like a dick

[humble star]

Surge users

[forest coral]

Well compare how easy illisi is to use

To Deimos

[sharp jackal]

Illisi if not energised feels like garbage

[olive ember]

??

[forest coral]

And no, saying deimos is good at horde clear isn’t something I’d agree with

[steel flame]

you must be on crack

[olive ember]

I’m saying the obscures is a Deimos that can horde clear

Deimos is overrated af imo

[humble star]

Illisi is the best thing for gun psykers so far.

[gilded viper]

illi my new favorite sword

[sharp jackal]

I don`t see a point of it to be honest

[forest coral]

Illi my beloved

[steel flame]

its oneshot stuff that obsurus can only do with 5 stacks of slaughter

[olive ember]

It’s literally the zealot hsword uncharged? And the zealot hsword literally chews through hordes

[summer prairie]

Illisi is very good horde clear even without activation, but little reason not to

[humble star]

Did you do it with slaughterer?

[forest coral]

Make sure to put slaughterer

Otherwise ur literally griefing urself

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-scared-hand-shaking-shivering-gif-24524523

[sharp jackal]

No, but i just can`t find a place for it

[twilit flicker]

At work.

[olive ember]

You don’t even need slaughterer I brought it into heresy and that shit was so easy

[tall torrent]

Is it just me or Deimos' special attack is weaker than the obscurus even though it's higher damage? 🤔

[twilit flicker]

Nice to see the chat buzzing away.

[orchid nest]

illisi does resonable bursts of dmg against monsters too by using the charge to ani cancel the light swing repeatedly

[sharp jackal]

Heresy is easy

[humble star]

Try it with the blessing that makes it good before trying to find a place for it

[olive ember]

Idk how ngl, all you do is spam lmb at poxwalkers and they die

[gilded viper]

[olive ember]

Heresy is also just damnation with 30% less stats

[sharp jackal]

ngl my purg does the same

[forest coral]

Aim head height, blend horde

Life easy

[feral verge]

derpy is our local malice gamer, so heresy is a huge step for ihm

[olive ember]

^^

[feral verge]

if oyu ever see him with a damnation border, it was his cousin playing

[olive ember]

It’s meh, to me it does about the same damage it’s the base move set that makes it standout but eh

[full kite]

Lmao y’all trash when y’all gonna step into a real adults difficulty and try sedition

[tall torrent]

I mean it actually does less damage like wtf

[feral verge]

yeah im sitll stuck in low int sedition

cant beat reg sed

[olive ember]

Jokes on you I have the sedition border equipped

[full kite]

It’s okay me too

[left briar]

i only play t1 and t5 tbh

[full kite]

We’ll all get there someday

[olive ember]

Can you actually get games in sedition?

Cuz I sure as hell can’t

No one queues for that shit

[humble star]

Having a melee weapon do the exact same thing as a purge staff isn't a bad thing. Creates more build variety.

[left briar]

yes, if you're lv30 you get some speedrunners that just want to get weeklies done

[olive ember]

I never get em then smh

Oh well

[sharp jackal]

Its just pointles to have 2 hord clearing weapons

[humble star]

I'm not saying to use it with purge

[forest coral]

You can like

[olive ember]

You could always run not the purge staff

[forest coral]

Not use purg with it

[olive ember]

Kekw

[forest coral]

Lmao

[gilded viper]

i wish it with gun psyker and it a dream come true

im now truely

[left briar]

im actually enjoying all 4 classes lately so i havent needed to do sedition for weeklies

[sharp jackal]

I like staffs in general, I`m not gonna run a gun like some... veteran

[gilded viper]

vet 2.0

[olive ember]

It starts raining the moment I step outside to attend class

[clever lynx]

Superiority good for FS?

[olive ember]

Must be a sign to go back home and play darktide

[feral verge]

meh

[faint sigil]

How's purge feel now? Is the wildfire perk cool?

[gilded viper]

i gtg to class now so u better not jinx me just now

[olive ember]

I mean isn’t gun psyker meta nowadays

[feral verge]

slaughterer and unstable power are better

[gilded viper]

it look like it going to rain

[clever lynx]

[olive ember]

We are both EST so

[sharp jackal]

cool, but kinda weak

[olive ember]

Haha

[gilded viper]

[feral verge]

imagine bieng EST

couldnt be me

im MST

[sharp jackal]

You have to sacefice 6stack perk for it

[spark oxide]

How are the Psyker changes feeling? Haven't had a chance to try

[feral verge]

massachusetts standard time

which is way dif from EST

[faint sigil]

I can't play until tonight

[humble star]

good enough to the point that I'm worried FS might walk some of them back

[olive ember]

P good lots of buffs both weapons are p good

Well

Fuck Deimos but

It’s passable

[sharp jackal]

quite nice, I would like to have the new talent in diffrent row

[clever lynx]

[feral verge]

even with purga, i think i prefer running illisi with it, over deimos

charged special illisi does enough dmg vs elites for me

[sharp jackal]

Ill probably will go back to DS, but in the meantime Im gonna enjoy a new weapon

[gilded viper]

no lie exorcist feel nice

infinite speical gaming on illis

[humble star]

Does it stack per kill or per swing?

because going back down to 0% peril would ruin my damage feat

[gilded viper]

no clue KEKW

[olive ember]

How many heads you hitting

[summer prairie]

the problem with exorcist is you don't get it when you keep activating

[gilded viper]

feel like im hitting a few head at the start then body for the rest

need more testing but school be like

[humble star]

doesn't count on first hit right?

[olive ember]

Honestly the passive vent is so fast that I don’t think exorcist is needed

Like

[austere estuary]

regular shop keeps hitting me with high statlines

[olive ember]

Unless you are literally only using charged swings

But like

[summer prairie]

it doesn't

[steel flame]

wildfire is gonna get nerfed into the ground

[austere estuary]

I wonder if they quietly buffed it or just RNG being kind

[steel flame]

i can feel it in my bones

[humble star]

aight, then exorcist seems pretty meh. especially after the quell speed changes

[olive ember]

Wildfire is overrated

[halcyon root]

does flame staff trigger wildfire?

[patent steeple]

btw i feel like wildfire with warp unleashed is decent because it helps kill hordes of trash mobs easily without needing to keep actively using purg right click, allowing for BB focusing on a sniper/special/any ogryn enemy in the meantime.

[olive ember]

A big thing is that your dot has to kill em, most of them will die from teammates

[left basin]

psykerdom

how's psyking

[halcyon root]

it just needs to die not from flame

[sharp jackal]

you have to kill them while the dot is running - just to clarify

[olive ember]

Pretty sure the dot has to kill em

That’s what happened in the meat grinder for me

[sharp jackal]

The is some guide on steam for all the hidden mechanics

[olive ember]

Shit didn’t do anything when I killed him with my FS after putting burn on em

No

For wildfire

[halcyon root]

I just tested in psycharium

[olive ember]

The new thing

[halcyon root]

it jumps

[sharp jackal]

oh yea

[olive ember]

I legit tried it this morning unless my lack of sleep is making me not see things idk

[humble star]

how good is it with wrack and ruin, the real question

[olive ember]

Put like 3 stacks of burn on something and then FS special

[sharp jackal]

i thought that you talk about other stuff for a second - it would benefit greatly if it was in diffrent row

[olive ember]

Be amazed as it doesn’t jump

[sharp jackal]

so you could par it with 6stacks perk

[humble star]

p sure that's why they put it in that row

[sharp jackal]

yeah, otherwise you could have some sort of siinergy, and that would be crazy

[patent steeple]

also, now i am thinking about using AB instead of KB on my purge psyker considering wildfire and the fact that warp unleashed now affects the dot from soulblaze...

[karmic reef]

So if I'm trying to farm force sword blessings, should I wait for blue+ swords to show up in the shop/from drops, or should I buy green/gray ones and upgrade them just to steal the blessing?

[fringe garden]

Yes

[olive ember]

Honestly AB is still best with warp battery imo

Wild fire is a bunch of sparks but not actually that useful

[still hearth]

So since I assume people have played a lot

[worn cypress]

wildfire sounds like it'd be fun with blazing spirit build

[still hearth]

How good are the buffs?

[karmic reef]

so do both?

[worn cypress]

okay so illisi swing pattern feels amazing but the damage kinda sucks

[olive ember]

I do both basically yeah

[worn cypress]

tho this is white trash from the shop I'm just trying

[karmic reef]

Isnt it kinda a waste of plasteel to upgrade them though?

[summer prairie]

what damage sucks, illisi literally does power sword damage on activated heavies

[worn cypress]

gets better with blessing I guess?

[olive ember]

You aren’t gonna be using em on Much else

[worn cypress]

I'm using just shitty white trash straight from the shop to try the swing patterns lol

[olive ember]

Well slaughterer yes but honestly the base damage is already rly good

[karmic reef]

fair

[olive ember]

It’s on par with hsword lights

[north cradle]

Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword- Force Sword with a focus on horde management. When charged with Warp Energy it cuts through groups of enemies with increased power.

This makes my stubber the heavy stubber

Psyker gets his own Power Sword

[worn cypress]

I really like the charged

ye

[patent steeple]

very good, for example the damage boost from warp unleashed (the one that boosts damage based on peril) is actually good on purge now because it boosts dot (which i have said multiple times in this chat)...

[worn cypress]

sad that its one swing only

[olive ember]

Special only lasts one swing so actually balanced

[north cradle]

Fuuuuck really?

Is it at least a super powerful swing?

[fringe garden]

I mean, that's fine. I'd rather it be balanced

[olive ember]

The plus side is that the base weapon is basically a hsword without rampage

[still hearth]

Power Sword nerfs when

[olive ember]

Slaughterer replaces headtaker

[sharp jackal]

I just tested it, it does jump if you kill the target

[summer prairie]

since they just put in another power sword, probably not in a while

[olive ember]

So use it like a hsword until mixed hordes and then empower

[karmic reef]

even light hits while charged can sometimes vaporize specials

[olive ember]

I’ll test again later then

[north cradle]

My boss is giving us tomorrow off work so I defo have time to try these out

[summer prairie]

and I mean illisi, not the actual power sword

[olive ember]

Maybe I was just being sleep deprived idk

[sharp jackal]

the range is derpy tho

[north cradle]

Do they also Deflect?

[still hearth]

I hate playing at 100% peril though

[olive ember]

All FS share blessings

[north cradle]

Noice

[wide tiger]

How come they didnt change any of the modifiers on the forceswords

like cleave instead of first target on the illisi or w/e

[summer prairie]

cleave damage/targets is very bad

[north cradle]

Do stacked mutators have stacked rewards?

[sharp jackal]

also its buggs on the testing ground and does not want to jump to just spawned mobs if you just hit them

[north cradle]

I forget the actual word for them so I call them mutators like Left 4 Dead

[patent steeple]

it can be at about 70+ peril to function decently enough, although yeah i can see why tryna just constantly raise peril while not in combat is annoying...

[wide tiger]

its as bad or as good as the modifiers make them, no?

[still hearth]

Though with the peril changes it should be easier too

And you want to run Nexus anyway

So sitting at 80%+ is good

[uneven drift]

So, i'm late to the party. Are flurry for purge/surge really fixed?

[steel flame]

tranquility got nerfed hard

[wide tiger]

How so?

[sharp jackal]

wildfire in fucking bugged, sometimes it jumps to target 30m away and somtimes 2 poxwalkers hugging can`t get it

[olive ember]

So far yes

[north cradle]

FINALLY BLESSING ICONS

[olive ember]

Nerfed in comparison since fucking warp unleashed applies to all damage now

[humble star]

One thing I can find it being pretty useful with is wrack and ruin for clearing groups around elites from very far away.

[wide tiger]

i suppose

[olive ember]

Even I’m using it shivers

[wide tiger]

Now we dont need to argue tranq vs wrack and ruin 😛

its just warp unleashed

[steel flame]

yup

[lucid olive]

is pushblock on the new force swords the same?

[steel flame]

yeah

[humble star]

yup, WU is the best. But BB having lower power means I get to stack more flame stacks from the elite If I get just below breakpoints

non-meta strats. Pergatus from across the map.

[karmic reef]

So for a purgatus soulblaze CC based build, how does this perk spread look? warp absorption, wrack and ruin, psychic communion, mind in motion, kinetic flayer (im curious if overload is worth it), then I havent decided between ascendant's blaze or quicken, ascendant's might be redundant as I have a lot of soulblaze sources

I might swap wrack for wrath though, I'm not sure if it is more impactful with pugatus, wrack might be unneeded with how many ways I can apply blaze

[near wyvern]

Quietitude WU is the meta build now unless you are running transfer flurry void or some BB gunker stuff

[olive ember]

What about gun psykers kek

Oh nvrm I can’t read

[north cradle]

Added variations to the Pox Burster sounds. I didn't really think they needed variations but I'm here for it

The Geiger counter and ticking noises were good enough to tell me that I was in danger

[cyan notch]

warp unleashed with warp battery is pretty good u can 1 shot flamers and ragers

[karmic reef]

can someone send me the patch notes?

[still hearth]

Quietitude is still better for guns since it regens constantly as long as you have peril, imo.

[north cradle]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/content-drop-tools-of-war/77097

I can't wait to get home tonight

[summer prairie]

plus quietitude was buffed in two ways

[olive ember]

You will only have peril if you BB tho

At which point essence harvest would be better

[still hearth]

Yeah but you BB twice

Ew no

[karmic reef]

damn, my college blocks it

[still hearth]

Essence Harvest is poopy

[summer prairie]

now it works with battle meditation and all quelling is twice as fast as before

[olive ember]

Also KF profs also trigger Essencd harvest as does communion etc.

[north cradle]

Wildfire looks absolutely insane

[near wyvern]

Spotted the gunker

[olive ember]

Hey I used to be a surge staff psyker but everyone made fun of me

[rare furnace]

I think the crit and speed makes it have enough dmg I did fastest damnation ever

[north cradle]

Warp Unleashed is the scaling damage with peril?

[olive ember]

Yep but even at 0 it’s an extra 10%

[near wyvern]

Depends. If you run WU CL WB you wanna keep that peril topped so you BB every 6-8 seconds or so and fire your shots between.

[north cradle]

I see they finally called it something other than Psykinetic's Wrath, not to be confused with Psykinetic's Wrath, the ult

[olive ember]

Lol yeah it was changed I think a patch or two ago

I still call it force weapon ngl

[near wyvern]

Yes. You get up to +25% based on peril, applies to everything you do. So new BB break points available.

[north cradle]

NOICE

[karmic reef]

I really cant decide between flayer or kinetic overload with purgatus and ascendants

[cyan notch]

deimos is definitely better at horde clear you have the ultra stab at the start and better light spam since u dont have the garbage upswing

[north cradle]

Is there still two flavours of Mind Over Matter in the penance section?

[feral verge]

i reccomend warp battery

[near wyvern]

It's wildfire (WF) now, RIP KO you were a degenerate

[olive ember]

10-25 damage based on peril, more specifically it’s + ( 0.1 + 0.015 *peril )

[north cradle]

Rest in Piss

[feral verge]

with 6 stacks from warp battery, you delete hordes

[karmic reef]

I might take kinetic overload since I'll be getting a lot of warp charges through ascendants

[olive ember]

No way also og horde clear was light into heavy

You never used the damn upswing

[still hearth]

Wildfire is good for Purge

[cyan notch]

and deimos has it too its just heavy into light

[still hearth]

Not worth it if you want to use AB without it

[near wyvern]

If you have PA go KF, otherwise go WB

[olive ember]

I am big dumb wats PA again

[karmic reef]

hmm, is wildfire plus wrack worth it, I feel like you get a lot of utility out of those two

[karmic reef]

same lol

[north cradle]

Purgatus...?

[karmic reef]

thats what I assumed

[olive ember]

Nah the move set is worse

[near wyvern]

Psykinetic's Aura, CDR on elite/special kill

[olive ember]

Oh aura

[north cradle]

Oh that one yeh

[cyan notch]

nah

[olive ember]

.>

Well up to personal preference I suppose

[near wyvern]

Depends what else you running. WU is so strong it's hard to pass on unless you have a special thing in mind.

[leaden flare]

so my spark ead is nearing 30 how much hate will he get for using the lightning staff,

[still hearth]

Not a lot.

[olive ember]

Not much

[karmic reef]

I feel like I can go PA because with ascendant's blaze I'll be getting a lot of warp stacks with purgatus

[still hearth]

I think lightning is the worst staff

[near wyvern]

From others? None. From yourself? Tons.

[still hearth]

But it has good use cases

[olive ember]

Zealots hate them because “oh no my perfect TH one shot on the mutant” but

It’s still useful

[leaden flare]

good cause when i have psychers in my grp using purgatorus i hate it cant see shit lol

[north cradle]

Sounds about right

[karmic reef]

until I get ascendant's I'll use communion though for warp charge passive gain

[wide tiger]

Surge staff you will put out some real bad damage

[gleaming comet]

how are the new Force Swords?

[leaden flare]

yea i know the damage is bvad

[gleaming comet]

and/or does the buff to Warp Unleashed unlock any new BB breakpoints?

[leaden flare]

im going for a "support"

[still hearth]

Support your team by killing instead

[wide tiger]

I can 2 shot crushers in t5 and one shot flamers now

[gleaming comet]

more importantly, does it unlock any BB breakpoints without requiring the use of Lacerations?

[karmic reef]

I forget what WU is just a 5-15% dmg buff though

[wide tiger]

flat 10%

[gleaming comet]

10-25% now

[near wyvern]

The cycler build works wonders for purge, that is EH WU/IT PA KD/KS KF AB.

You ulr whenever you see elites / specials nearby, keep flaming and by the time it's over you are at 4 stacks and ready to go again.

[karmic reef]

I was gonna try to do the max soulblaze build

[wide tiger]

with 15% variance

bonus

[karmic reef]

oh I didnt see that

[gleaming comet]

it got buffed last patch

but then buffed again

[karmic reef]

why not warp absorption

[still hearth]

Curious when they take two of the things I said that I'd like them to change on Psyker from here in the patch

[wide tiger]

cause soulblaze doesnt count

[karmic reef]

darn

[olive ember]

But they ignored the flamer and vet was untouched

[wide tiger]

They didnt nerf anything

[olive ember]

False prophet detected

[still hearth]

Well that's true

[maiden wolf]

Love that "I told you so" feeling after other users tell you your idea is stupid.

[still hearth]

They only look in this chat apparently

[near wyvern]

EH has more utility if you get pinned by ranged. You can peak a boo BB cast to keep yourself topped up while getting rid of them at the same time.

[olive ember]

They removed thammer animation cancel

[karmic reef]

am I gonna have to keep having to use bb to get heals though

[wide tiger]

Alright alright

[olive ember]

Thammer into the grave lmao

[still hearth]

Well, people did agree on some of the things. And I do think the Quicken change isn't enough but hey, they went with it

[north cradle]

There's nothing of substance in #veteran-class so naturally Fartshack doesn't know what's going on

[wide tiger]

you get what i mean though

i think nerfs are coming later

[olive ember]

I run hsword bolter zealot now

[karmic reef]

cause I kinda just wanna do a build where I dont have to micromanage warp charge stacks all the time

[wide tiger]

pretty fun

[karmic reef]

cause I always forget to keep them up

[near wyvern]

Nope. As long as you are not face tanking ranged in the middle of the room you will be topped up. Every time you get a warp charge (AB proc or KF proc kill) you will get toughness back.

[worn cypress]

if you're passively getting warp charges from other sources you'll passively proc EH

[karmic reef]

oh I thought it was on brain burst, mb I cant read

[wide tiger]

they also buffed a lot of the thammer basic attacks it looks like

[karmic reef]

Im still tryna decide if I need kf with AB or if I should go overload for more soulblaze, or warp battery for more dmg

[umbral jetty]

deimos feels really really good coming from Vermintide

[still hearth]

Damn

[near wyvern]

Definitely. Illisi is ez.

[still hearth]

You can 2 shot Reapers now

[olive ember]

Meh useless since the new version makes old one obsolete

[still hearth]

You can oneshot flamers too

[wide tiger]

i was more talking about the flamer but yeah

[olive ember]

If they nerf the illi while the fucking power sword is around in fucking done

[wide tiger]

i havent even tried to illisi yet

[still hearth]

Can't 2 shot Mutants

Sad

[north cradle]

I feel like Psyker has some options for the first pick. Because someone running Warp Battery and Psykinetic's Aura, for instance, could possibly benefit more from Quietude more than Essence Harvest depending on how many brains they burst

[ornate hamlet]

Not a huge fan of the illisi compared to the old force sword. One hitting mutants on damnation was just too good for me to give up

[wide tiger]

Can anyone push F5 in the mourningstar?

[umbral jetty]

does 2 warp charges at once make the first level 5 talent give 60 shield?

[near wyvern]

Can you one shot Ragers at 100 peril and with enough stacks?

[still hearth]

Yes

[north cradle]

I feel the same way honestly

[still hearth]

You can one shot all elites and specials other than mutants and ogryns now

[wide tiger]

Everytime i push F5 in the mourningstar my game crashes

[near wyvern]

There ya go, BB is working again

[wide tiger]

so weird

[still hearth]

With 6 stacks and a lot of peril

[north cradle]

I like horde clear but I really like deleting Dreg Ragers and Mutants

[still hearth]

Uhh

Dogs do live too

Actually

With like 100 hp

[wide tiger]

What's f5's default binding?

[olive ember]

It was quite surreal tho this morning. All the psykers were celebrating and then I looked in zealot chat and the first msg I saw was “these fucking devs only play on malice after all”

[near wyvern]

So if you truly are a BB guy you want to run quicken with WU and ditch KB

[north cradle]

We have lower standards because we're used to getting fucked every patch

[near wyvern]

3 BB to top up battery

And to top up peril as well

[still hearth]

I'd say Barrage is still better

[near wyvern]

Probs

[still hearth]

Because you want to stay at high peril anyway

[north cradle]

Kinetic Barrage is also more fun honestly

[still hearth]

And faster BB is good so

[karmic reef]

so ok, what do you think about EH, WU, PA (PC until I get AB), MIM, KO, AB? Do you think that looks decent with purgatus?

[still hearth]

So

6 stacks + Unleashed

Is enough to one shot ragers

From 0%

Peril

Same for Flamer

[wide tiger]

yeah

[still hearth]

So you don't even need to play high peril to get benefits

[wide tiger]

is nice

[vital flint]

Hi everyone, just popped into the new update, the new force swords are interesting

[wide tiger]

need high peril for crusher unless you have cerebral i think

[still hearth]

You need it for Reapers though

[karmic reef]

maybe I dont need mind in motion now that all quelling is faster?

[near wyvern]

MM is noob trap especially now that quelling is so buffed. Staves have a lesser movement speed penalty. Run wither KS or KD.

[wide tiger]

mind in motion is bad

[north cradle]

Don't Reapers need three Brain Bursts compared to Bulwark's two?

[near wyvern]

And KO is not existing anymore, it's WF now

[summer prairie]

Here's a wildfire slaughterer+unstable power+warp unleashed meme with +infested and +horde as well https://streamable.com/x9i35i

[still hearth]

Not with all the buffs

If you have 6 stacks and Unleashed

You 2 shot reapers at high peril

[north cradle]

Ah nice

[karmic reef]

probably kinetic shield since I have little range with purgatus

[still hearth]

Uh, 6 stack, Unleashed + Lacerations

[karmic reef]

I'd hope my squad would take down the ranged enemies, but you cant trust those

[gilded viper]

Jacking off the sword = more power

[summer prairie]

yes

[near wyvern]

They fall like dominoes

[still hearth]

The quell speed on hands

Is just nuts too

[wide tiger]

i love the infinite spread

[near wyvern]

Just use KD, sit and wait

[still hearth]

Like you don't even need a staff to quell fast anymore

[north cradle]

I might need to rework my Purgatus and non-Purgatus builds now

[near wyvern]

Tons of monstrosity damage now. You take hilarious chunks out with it.

[still hearth]

I think I did like 2k per brain burst on Reapers with everything stacked

So yeah, you can actually do the monstrosity thing with BB build now and it wont take 10 years

[north cradle]

We still doing 122113 for Voidstrike/Force Sword?

[still hearth]

Ew Essence Harvest

[near wyvern]

Yeah I had to le learn the muscle memory, I am quelling too much now.

[still hearth]

[late yew]

How good are changes for psyker?

[still hearth]

Very

I'd genuine say they're beyond Zealot in power atm

[late yew]

cringe

[north cradle]

I can always swap it to 3 instead of 1, but I find myself using Brain Burst a lot too

[karmic reef]

You think KO or KF meshes better with this build?, its supposed to be a horde killer build, but KF doesnt do as much if I dont pick Wrack, and WU is so good

[still hearth]

Closer to Veteran

[gilded viper]

Bad, I miss slow passive quelling

[late yew]

Just because of peril changes? Or because of new weapons?

[olive ember]

Psyker is a samurai now

[karmic reef]

maybe battery

[still hearth]

Mostly peril and feats.

The damage feat is just stupid good now

There's no reason not to run it imo

Especially since they made quelling super fast

[north cradle]

312113 then?

[olive ember]

Gomenasai, my name is Ken-Sama.

I’m a 27 year old American Otaku (Anime fan for you gaijins). I draw Anime and Manga on my tablet, and spend my days perfecting my art and playing superior Japanese games. (Disgaea, Final Fantasy, Persona series)

I train with my Katana every day, this superior weapon can cut clean through steel because it is folded over a thousand times, and is vastly superior to any other weapon on earth. I earned my sword license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak Japanese fluently, both Kanji and the Osaka dialect, and I write fluently as well. I know everything about Japanese history and their bushido code, which I follow 100%

When I get my Japanese visa, I am moving to Tokyo to attend a prestigious High School to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become an animator for Studio Ghibli or a game designer!

I own several kimonos, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to Japan, so I can fit in easier. I bow to my elders and seniors and speak Japanese as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond.

[late yew]

What was old force sword for again? Since we got new single target one and anti-horde one...

[gilded viper]

Damn now thinking about it I need to think of a new gun psyker build with the feat changes

[karmic reef]

since if I run AB and PC I get a ton of charges

[late yew]

Which one?

[spice owl]

Autopistol psyker ahoy!

[still hearth]

Warp Unleashed

[gilded viper]

Oh question, the 2nd feat in level 5, do it work with force sword special

[still hearth]

Getting up to 25% damage to anything is stupid

[north cradle]

Awkward horde clear with First Target instead of Cleave Damage with regular attacks, and zapping bad men into the Shadow Realm with the charged attacks?

[late yew]

Oh, so now on level 5 is is prboably better take peril vent talent?

[near wyvern]

If you have PC take WB or WF, KF is paired with PA for additional stack gen so you can spam 4 stack ult to buff your staff flames over cap.

[gilded viper]

• warp charges

[still hearth]

I always took Peril = Toughness

But now its even better so

[late yew]

Restoration on warp attacks was bad?

[austere fractal]

Psyker best! Autopistol best!

[late yew]

warp kills*

[still hearth]

Yes

[late yew]

Why 😦

[rare furnace]

With the new cleave weapons I would love a new boss variant like 3 tiny demon hosts with less power each but they go on almost your whole squat

[still hearth]

It didn't save me when I needed it.

[late yew]

Insta heal to full when using charged staves against hordes

[still hearth]

And it was awkward to make use of

[karmic reef]

why wf with PC?

[still hearth]

Yeah but I don't need toughness in situations where I can insta charge a horde

[late yew]

fair

[karmic reef]

Damn, I gotta get me the new force sword for cleave

[still hearth]

That's the safe situations

[karmic reef]

or maybe I dont bc pugatus already is really good for horde clearing

[late yew]

But does venting save you in dangerous situations?

It is not like you really hav e time to do that

[still hearth]

Yeah

[karmic reef]

and my sword could be for elites that get up close

[karmic reef]

yes

[still hearth]

Your toughness breaks and then you take cover so you can regen it

Is usually the way it goes

Or you quell while dodging to cover

[near wyvern]

WF is additional horde clear, it's quite strong but not needed, WB is more damage for things you are currently flaming, it's a choice of flavour.

[north cradle]

Howdy, my name is Rawhide Kobayashi.

I'm a 27 year old Japanese Japamerican (western culture fan for you foreigners). I brand and wrangle cattle on my ranch, and spend my days perfecting the craft and enjoying superior American passtimes. (Barbeque, Rodeo, Fireworks)

I train with my branding iron every day, this superior weapon can permanently leave my ranch embled on a cattle's hide because it is white-hot, and is vastly superior to any other method of livestock marking. I earned my branding license two years ago, and I have been getting better every day.

I speak English fluently, both Texas and Oklahoma dialect, and I write fluently ias well. I know everything about American history and their cowboy code, which I follow 100%

When I get my American visa, I am moving to Dallas to work in an oil field to learn more about their magnificent culture. I hope I can become a cattle wrangler for the Double Cross Ranch or an oil rig operator for Exxon-Mobil!

I own several cowboy hats, which I wear around town. I want to get used to wearing them before I move to America, so I can fit in easier. I rebel against my elders and seniors and speak English as often as I can, but rarely does anyone manage to respond. Wish me luck in America!

[gilded viper]

If u not deep in the front line u can quell pretty safely most of the time

[pine relic]

This weak spot crit damage

[karmic reef]

I really wanna do WF so I guess I'll try that

[gilded viper]

Fs really just say fuck it

[still hearth]

The 10% per target seems nice if you can manage to be in close quarter constantly and now with the cleave sword it might be great tbh

[daring nexus]

With warp unleashed and six stacks you can now 1 shot BB ragers and flamers on damnation!!!

[still hearth]

But now you can also just have 100% peril

Swap to melee and get 50% toughness over time

Since they buffed the peril stuff

[north cradle]

Does the Deimos sword have a different special than the Obscurus?

[gilded viper]

No

[north cradle]

Thought so

[rare furnace]

So wait no one’s trying the stab sword?

😂😂

[karmic reef]

Is the new force sword just as good at killing tough single target's like the OG force sword?

[gilded viper]

Illis have a new one tho

[karmic reef]

cause if it is, I dont see a reason not to take it

[north cradle]

Ya I know the Illisi is like Power Sword

[rare furnace]

You do 3 heavies and all dead

But happens so fast you don’t care it’s not oneshot

[near wyvern]

If you go WF you might as well go CL instead of PC for guaranteeing 2 shot BB on those Bulwarks which are one of the only two purge cannot deal with.

[rare furnace]

With one special

[daring nexus]

You can 2 shot crushers now too!!!

[gilded viper]

One is basically stronger single target og fa
Another one is power sword but 1 swing per charge + good horde clear like heavy sword

Fs*

[spice veldt]

illis has a greater dmg multiplier against unyielding but seems to have 100% ish against everything else

[olive ember]

The stronger single target has shitty horde clear

[gilded viper]

Does it, I haven't try it, only manage to do 1 game before college

[olive ember]

Oh yeah it’s no longer raining

[olive ember]

Did the rain move to you?

[gilded viper]

Just cloudy

I think the rain happen earlier in the morning for me

[lucid terrace]

So how are yall feeling about the update?

[olive ember]

Tch

[gilded viper]

0/10 I wanna drop out of school to play darktide now

[spice owl]

So what are you gonna pair with the stabby sword? I was thinking of the trauma staff

[spice veldt]

it's nice that we got a hordeclear melee

[karmic reef]

is wf the one where when you go over max charges it blazes a random enemy, or is it the one that applies blaze on BB?

[karmic reef]

do I really need it for the horde clear if I have purgatus?

[lucid terrace]

Yeah, but if only it was... bigger...

and two handed...

and great...

[spice veldt]

:(

me too

[karmic reef]

cause rn my force sword is mostly used for single target

[gilded viper]

I mean if u want, there other secondary outside of purg so it nice for that, I would just say try the stabby one then if u want to run purg

[still hearth]

So

I'm definitely playing full BB with Quicken

Just because you can keep BBing on demand

Jesus that's so funny

[karmic reef]

also I just invested a ton in a good stabby one pre update, so I'll just keep it

[still hearth]

By the time you go into peril you have your shout back

[spice owl]

I accidentaly tap quell and lose 25% perils

You can bb on demand right now with the buffs

[karmic reef]

Good

[still hearth]

No, I have to stop and quell, but this also knocks things back all the time which is fun

[north cradle]

Zased

I can't wait to get home

[gilded viper]

U running it with the elite cd one as well ?

[wide tiger]

Crucian roulette kinda got gutted huh

[still hearth]

Nope

Just 6 stacks and Quicken

You can shout more often with CDR but its useless

Since you need 6 stacks

[gilded viper]

Did it, I kinda got confuse when reading the patchnote and I heard people say it got nerf

[wide tiger]

yeah pretty hard

[gilded viper]

Thought it was better but my reading skill suck

[safe crystal]

It went from 5% to 0.5%

[spice owl]

Haha! You only need 4 with the pinning fire autopistol!

[north cradle]

So 312113 for me running Voidstrike?

[hollow current]

I think it'll pair well with Trauma 🤠

[near wyvern]

They removed that, that was KO, it's now WF and spreads up to a total of 4 stacks of soulblaze combined on enemy deaths to nearby enemies

[karmic reef]

ooh yeah that good, I'll take that

[gilded viper]

Give me that NOW

[hollow current]

Give me a copy of Slaughter IV

[gilded viper]

Sure

Blood thrisy just sound broken on the great fs

[near wyvern]

I like dagger with trauma for that reposition ability

[gilded viper]

Infinite criting

[north cradle]

And I guess 111122 for Purgatus?

[hollow current]

I usually use the duelling V, it has great dodges and speed too.

[near wyvern]

Bloodthirsty will probably be up the roof with Illis

[lethal folio]

I seems like the heavy stab on force sword is better damage uncharged.

[kind jay]

i like that you can spam special on illisi and it looks like youre giving the blade a happy ending

[hollow current]

yeah charging it on the heavy stab adds like 10-20% damage it feels

[near wyvern]

That's the other option. I just like my knife push attack spam which quarantees kills on all trash heads, reliable way of getting toughness back if stuck at melee.

[lethal folio]

It has such a massive headshot boost.

[noble meteor]

idea: change wrack and ruin to something called ''firestarter'' its the same thing but with any ennemies instead of elites

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[worn cypress]

did a run and now I'm conflicted bc duelling movespeed fits how I play better but illisi is so fun

[near wyvern]

Would be neat but I forecast nerfs to us on next three patches.

[lethal folio]

Oh fatshark, you forgot to add stat bar mods to the ilisi light 4

[noble meteor]

i hope not, vet just got buffed for f sake lmao, for once the psyker kinda got something going for em

[near wyvern]

But at this point since WU is so strong there is no point in taking WR

[near wyvern]

Vet needs more buffs so all the fps newbs can dip their feet in

[near wyvern]

Cause that's the class they gonna first play on and that will be their first experience. The first time is always special.

[summer prairie]

This is such an overkill for horde

[worn cypress]

hah sweet

[lethal folio]

I think with slaughterer stacked you can happily stab out all the human elites.

[noble meteor]

sad but true.. damn i hate that you're right

[wide tiger]

nice

[near wyvern]

You don't even have to charge that if you just have decent roll and hit them with the second heavy.

[wide tiger]

fantastic

[pine relic]

special is for the safe kill.

[near wyvern]

But animation lock is far from safe

[pine relic]

that depends on your positioning.

you are not gonna kill a flamer faster with secondary heavy than a special attack.

[royal granite]

ah yes, the safe kill that's only safe if you're already safe

[clear heath]

good morning

[still hearth]

It sure is a good morning for Psykers

[clear heath]

wtf they added 10 new weapons? I thought they were adding 3

[still hearth]

They also buffed Psyker

Hard

[clear heath]

wtf

[wide tiger]

they surprised us all

[still hearth]

This is on the level of stacks not falling off individually good

Which was already insanely nice

[near wyvern]

@clear heath you are in for a pleasant surprise

[clear heath]

i am reading patch notes now

quelling twice as fast now???

[rocky cedar]

New quell stuff is neat but kinda makes staying high peril annoying

[clear heath]

Also how are the new force swords? Is my current one obsolete now?

[rocky cedar]

No

It's an in between of the new ones

Everyone seems to be in love with the new horde clear one

[clear heath]

wait is that mk5 force sword just a power sword?

[sage yacht]

Yes

[lethal folio]

huh,

[sage yacht]

You jack it off for max power

[rocky cedar]

Not really

[still hearth]

Staying on high peril is easy if you just use BB constantly

[clear heath]

can it roll the same blessings?

[rocky cedar]

But the closest you'll get on Psyker

[rocky cedar]

Yes they're the same weapon different MKs

[rocky cedar]

The warp unleashed one really is kinda wild

I'm not sure anything else will be run on that row now

[clear heath]

It sounds like i should just switch my force sword

can't wait to try it

[gilded viper]

10%-25% damage + 16%-24% damage + blessing

[wide tiger]

Wildfire seems gimmicky still, this part kinda kills it for me

[clear heath]

gonna miss the old fs moveset though. it's been growing on me

[gilded viper]

I won't

Tho it suck that I got used to it yesterday

[soft cliff]

yall fucking with force swords that have low mobility ratings? or should I pass

[near wyvern]

Transfer flurry void will still probs run tranq since it doesn't need more damage

[olive ember]

its weird tbh because it makes it kinda meh

[sage yacht]

why be mobile when you can force block everything

[olive ember]

but at the same time if it werent there

it would be fucking broken

[spice owl]

Fs has infinite dodge so who cares about mobility rating

Not me at least

[olive ember]

imagine if you had that and you burned a horde with a plogryn in the middle

that thing would melt

[gleaming comet]

How're y'all enjoying the new Deimos FS?

[cyan notch]

the more specials condition is pretty nuts they throw like 5 million specials

[olive ember]

I think its just a worst obscurus ngl

[gleaming comet]

I know right? It's great

[wide tiger]

that was the dream

[gilded viper]

Green circle gaming

[feral verge]

high special is more intense than high intensity

[still hearth]

Its great on Purge

[soft cliff]

heard chef

[near wyvern]

It works wonders with spirit nexus trauma. You can pump those procs to 4 stacks as soon as you get the fire started.

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[still hearth]

There's little reason to run the other two options on Purge either, really.

[wide tiger]

yeah i was thinking it would be good with blazing spirit

[olive ember]

queued into one on heresy by accident... my teammates were... interesting...

[cyan notch]

dude we were literally stuck for a solid 2 mins from triple bombers nading us with the more flame duration buff too

[olive ember]

lots of me reviving

[wide tiger]

I disagree i think warp battery is probably better

[still hearth]

8% damage isn't going to let you hit many breakpoints so its really only 6 stacks AB that you lose.

[wide tiger]

8% damage and more from AB

[still hearth]

Ehhh

8% damage is so tiny for the Purge

[olive ember]

warp battery is def better

[still hearth]

It already overkills hard

[runic hornet]

yooooo what the fuck, big psyker buffs?

[summer prairie]

I could see taking quicken just for communion or KF synergy if you want to run voidstrike with surge+nexus with little BBing

[olive ember]

6 stack AB with WU means you can one shot not only shooter packs, but also shotgunners and ragers

thats soo much utility

[wide tiger]

wildfire wont do much if you already have everything stacked with soulblaze

[clear hamlet]

best blessings/ perks on maccabian V?

[still hearth]

Wildfire lets your stack spread

[olive ember]

wildfire is kinda mid cuz each guy only afflicts as much burn as the last guy

[still hearth]

So you speed up the clear a lot

[wide tiger]

to enemies with less stacks

[cyan notch]

warp battery lets you 1 shot ragers and flamers

[olive ember]

and without warp battery that means at most you can get like what 4 stacks of burn on a guy?

[still hearth]

Yeah but you usually don't flame the entire horde for the same amount

[olive ember]

unless you using purge but

idk

I think especially with the 16m range

[still hearth]

Without purge then yeah there's no reason to go Wildfire

[wide tiger]

I think it kinda breathes some life into blazing spirit builds

[still hearth]

But I think Wildfire helps Purge some

[olive ember]

the 6 stack burn with WU that kills everything from shooters to shotgunners to ragers I think is more useful

on something as short ranged as the purge staff

[still hearth]

But you don't have 6 stacks of damage boost after you ult

And you also have max 50% peril

[feral verge]

WB has more utility

[still hearth]

At least for the first ticks

[olive ember]

WU hits the breakpoints to kill shotgunners and ragers iirc

I saw someone mention it earlier

[still hearth]

Either way I imagine its miniscule differences

Neither is going to make or break runs

[olive ember]

Eh being able to press F and deal with a shotgunner pack

can def make or break a run

same with rager packs

[near wyvern]

Flamers and Ragers, gunners are always one shot

[olive ember]

or both for that matter when the game chooses to screw you

[olive ember]

oh i thought shotgunners werent'

[wide tiger]

flamers arent always a one shot for BB

[clear heath]

wait, warp unleashed affects all damage?
does it affect brain burst?

[olive ember]

yes

[clear heath]

any new breakpoints?

[olive ember]

its been changed this patch

[cyan notch]

yes

[olive ember]

I think some 3 hits move to 2 hits, some 2 hits move to one hit

[still hearth]

You couldn't one-shot flamers without new WU

[wide tiger]

needed new buffs for one shot flamers

[near wyvern]

rager and flamer one shot

[clear heath]

nice

[olive ember]

crusher and reaper can be 2 shot if you take CL as well

[still hearth]

With WU and Lacerations the only things you can't one shot are dogs and mutants

[olive ember]

mutant is still 3 shot tho

[still hearth]

And Ogryn

[cyan notch]

not doggo either >:(

[near wyvern]

Crusher is anyways 2 shot with CL

[still hearth]

You two shot all Ogryns though

[wide tiger]

you can 2 shot crusher without CL now though i think

[still hearth]

And you can almost 3 shot mutants

I think they have 300 HP left

[olive ember]

ah wasn't familiar with the breakpoints on crusher tbh I don't always take CL XD

[still hearth]

HANG ON

DOES ALL OR NOTHING STILL WORK ON BB

[olive ember]

no mutants you can 3 shot

[still hearth]

[runic hornet]

Oh, does All or Nothing still affect all weapon damage?

[lethal folio]

No, All or nothing no longer persissts.

[still hearth]

Fug

Ah well

[runic hornet]

fug

[wide tiger]

sad because i never have stam on my psyker lol

[olive ember]

I think WU + CL + WB is enough to 3 shot mutants 2 shot everything else

[still hearth]

Yep

[still hearth]

The only things that live 1 shot at that with high peril are Ogryns, dogs and mutants.

[olive ember]

its an actual word apparently

[still hearth]

Dogs and Ogryns dying in 2 hits

And mutants in 3

[near wyvern]

Don't forget, even with 0 peril WU is still a global +10% damage boost vs everything

[still hearth]

WU is stupid good now

[feral verge]

based and WUpilled

[still hearth]

There's 0 reason to take the other options I think

[olive ember]

I'm debating if I wanna run WU or quietitude on surge

idek

[still hearth]

Its so overwhelmingly strong thanks to peril changes

[lethal folio]

Wrack

[olive ember]

with quelling changes probably WU tbh

[still hearth]

Wrack kind wack

[lethal folio]

Wrack is a hard choice over WU now

[still hearth]

I think that's just for you Tyr

[olive ember]

welp ima just not run zealot for a while

anyways

how were the new shotguns treating vet

[still hearth]

Every time I tried Wrack my team mates took all the glowing head kills

And I didn't even get to see how good it was

Because I got no BB kills

[gilded viper]

I like wrack but 10% damage is kinda nut if u use more force weapon

[feral verge]

it buffs all dmg

[still hearth]

10% damage, or getting 25% damage BB pops

[feral verge]

force or no

[olive ember]

fml I just realized

[still hearth]

Just play around 90% peril constantly

[untold isle]

the new forceswords any good?

[olive ember]

I have to fucking remake MetaPskyerTM

WTF

[spice veldt]

illis is amazing

[gilded viper]

Well saying force to build up peril without only doing bb

[olive ember]

WU is actually useful on MetaPsykerTM now

fucking

god fucking

[spice veldt]

smh making feats viable for guns

[hybrid solstice]

erm... wut da tuna

[gilded viper]

I'm sorry now psyker can legit close their eyes at rhe feat and still be fine

It over

Souls

[olive ember]

its called Fatshark Standardization

comon man

[hybrid solstice]

neither of those things even exist

[olive ember]

you clearly haven't kept up with the terminology

please refer to Fatshark Lexicon Book 12312451213123

[gilded viper]

Shit man I didn't kept up with the lore

[frozen osprey]

Im sorry im very stupid what is wrack and wu?

[still hearth]

Wrack and Ruin, Warp Unleashed.

[olive ember]

wrack n ruin

warp unleashed

[hybrid solstice]

i have to assume they were like alpha names for warp charges and psykinetic's wrath or something and they got used here on accident... or something..

[frozen osprey]

I schnee

[near wyvern]

Warp charges are called souls in code and peril is called warp charge in code, because why not

[void mural]

How's the new force swords? Cleaving sword has me excited for playing something besides CA with BM for horde clear

[hybrid solstice]

lol just lol

[gilded viper]

Good

[near wyvern]

Cleave FS is great

[gilded viper]

Might be my new favorite melee weapon

But only did 1 game, which I failed in cause the special spawn modifier slap

[olive ember]

you mean you don't know about EH, WA, WU, WR, PA, CL, KD, KS, MiM, WB, WF, KF, AB, KB

[void mural]

Noice! Is it basically power sword, but psyker flavored?

[spice veldt]

yup

[idle bay]

Bootleg Power Sword with Force sword push and hold 🙂

[gilded viper]

Kinda, sadly it 1 charge per swing but it still good uncharge I'll say

[spice veldt]

the cleave distribution on it seems really good

[still hearth]

I made a list of acronyms for Zealot chat and people still don't know them.

[gilded viper]

Better uncharge state then power sword imo

[frozen osprey]

Still has infinite dodges right?

[void mural]

Ah, power sword, but less reliant on charge, and actually useful cleave without charge?

[spice veldt]

yeah you probably don't need to worry about infinite dodges getting changed on the force sword

[gilded viper]

I want to thank u tho, cause I look at pin one day and was like "oh I see now"

[olive ember]

lmao

[void mural]

Alright, cool! Might be my new main. Have to check it out first though

[hybrid solstice]

ah wonderful, a new force sword, glad Brunt only has a 301 BST one for sale...

[spice veldt]

the illis' first heavy is also just straight up spammable

[still hearth]

Just doing my part

[gilded viper]

I don't know the number but from my 1 game, with slaughter it pretty good

[frozen osprey]

Very epic

[void mural]

Lol, anything with slaughterer is good

[spice veldt]

since part of the tradeoff is that the force sword has a higher base block cost than other weapons

[gilded viper]

Now free me from this test I'm going to take in 5 min

[near wyvern]

• Essence Harvest
• Warp Absorption
• Warp Unleashed
• Wrack and Ruin
• Paykineitc's Aura
• Cerebral Lacerations
• Kinetic Deflection
• Kinetic Shielding
• Mind in Motion
• Wildfire
• Kinetic Flayer
• Ascendant Blaze
• Kinetic Barrage

Get up to speed FFS (for fucks sake)

[faint vault]

But is it better than the antax?

[fringe garden]

And we can still get deflect on the new sword, yeah?

[cyan notch]

yes

[frozen osprey]

You seem cool and all but NEEERRRDDD

[olive ember]

@still hearth bruh you have that shit pinned lmao

[still hearth]

I told you.

[cyan notch]

you can probably get away with not using any muggle weapons now

[gilded viper]

Doing God work

I mean em

Don't shoot me

[near wyvern]

What did you expect, I maintain the Atheneum, which I will update during the weekend. A lot has happened.

[olive ember]

thats what I did beforehand tf you mean

[spice veldt]

here's a video of the 1st heavy getting spammed against 20 poxwalkers https://streamable.com/6umxux with t4 slaughterer

[frozen osprey]

The what

[olive ember]

you don't use h1 you just lmb spam

[still hearth]

Ah. The Heavy Sword levels of cleave.

[olive ember]

like the hsword

[hybrid solstice]

hey someone posted this, what do you think of this blessing combo? would even just shred be a good choice paired with slaughterer you think?

[spice veldt]

why would you lmb spam with 2 cleave lights

[near wyvern]

Oh and @olive ember you forgot IT inner tranquility

[spice veldt]

unlike the hsword, force sword lights have far less cleave than their heavies

[cyan notch]

2 even

[olive ember]

FUCK I just call it tranquility lmao

I mean once you have slaughterer it does enough

imo

i'll run it back once i get home

in

[cyan notch]

u should probably get it pinned tbh

[near wyvern]

NOTICE: NOT UPDATED YET TO CURRENT PATCH

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[olive ember]

in 6 hours rip

[olive ember]

@still hearth how did you get your shit pinned

how do we get pygex guide pinned

[frozen osprey]

Oh i remember thiiiiss
And being too stupid and/or tired to fully comprehend it

[still hearth]

Ask a warden

[frozen osprey]

I just play

[olive ember]

🤔 @near wyvern fine with getting it pinned?

[near wyvern]

That's fine for me

[olive ember]

guess i'll take the plunge then

@tranquil nova https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Could we get this rly comprehensive psyker guide pinned for reference in the future etc.

<@&735928989146939404>

[still hearth]

LMAO

[olive ember]

LMAO

[still hearth]

Pinged a random dude called warden

Nice

[spice veldt]

nice gaslighting

[cyan notch]

why is there a dude called warden

[olive ember]

I think the worst part was I fucking audibly went "bruh" rly loudly in class

[spice veldt]

oh wiat

[still hearth]

I should rename myself to Wardens

[near bluff]

close enough

[spice veldt]

lmao

[still hearth]

Thanks Skelebro.

[olive ember]

thx thx

[frozen osprey]

He wards

[void mural]

What attack combos do people use on the achlys axe? I finally got myself a decent one, but the attack combos are so different from the mk 5 combat axe I'm used to.
Been fumbling around with the first heavy attack and push attacks but they don't chain smoothly into each other for horde clear.

[cyan notch]

now ur @ warden is permanently pinned

LOL

[still hearth]

You don't

Achlys kinda fucked.

Either repeat H1 or use H2/H3 on single targets

[olive ember]

Right before I pressed enter I was like "huh why is the warden roll lowercase"

[spice veldt]

achlys is kind of meh for hordeclear because H1 has really bad minimum cleave damage and its lights have a poopoo animation

[still hearth]

Is what I'd do if I tried to do it

[olive ember]

and then I saw the fucking not yellow name

and yeah

[still hearth]

As Arco put it, yeah.

H1 sucks because shit min cleave, lights suck because bad swings.

[void mural]

Yeah, that's kinda how I was feeling with achlys. Even BM doesn't do a huge amount for horde clear

[spice veldt]

here's the cleave distribution of the achlys h1

look at that sweet 13.25 minimum cleave dmg

[still hearth]

You do less than half the damage on H1 compared to Antax Light spam

Which is just

Cleave damage distribution is so messed up in this game

[spice veldt]

and here's the antax lights

lmao

[still hearth]

I think Achlys lights are the same

But they are like

[void mural]

So, suck it up and use a different weapon and hope for buffs?

[still hearth]

Diagonals and overheads

For some reason

[vernal portal]

Anyone know if the Surge blessing only applies to the left click?

[spice veldt]

the worst attack patterns in the world

[wide tiger]

so let me

tell you a story

about wildfire

and daemonhosts

[spice veldt]

on the voidstrike, it affects both the LMB and RMB
on the trauma, it only affects the LMB and not the RMB

[cyan notch]

thats kinda fine since its meant for single target but the problem is every single one of its attacks are single target

[olive ember]

just like deimos

[vernal portal]

@spice veldt Ah cool, thanks

[olive ember]

does it apply?

I was pressing F with my AB + Wildfire

[hybrid solstice]

it really doesnt affect the trauma RMB? that is absolute dreck

[olive ember]

and that shit refused to apply to the DH

[void mural]

Yeah, I have BM on it, but even then I was struggling to make a usable attack pattern for horde clear while BM was active

[spice veldt]

trauma staff truly is oppressed

[cyan notch]

deimos has better light spam and same horde combo

[frozen osprey]

now all of china knows he's a fool

[olive ember]

trauma surge staff truly is oppressed

fixed

[void mural]

I struggled through some difficulty 4 missions, but man is horde clear funky with achlys

[olive ember]

also no deimos sucks

my psyker will die on that hill >.>

[cyan notch]

i mean sure if thats your only argument then yea

[hybrid solstice]

does deimos actually sucks

[cyan notch]

it sucks cuz it sucks

[olive ember]

eh i think the single target is mid cuz it sacrifices horde clear

[cyan notch]

[olive ember]

idk what combo hes using

heavy - light is like

the heavy is an overhead

[hybrid solstice]

how is the special attack on deimos?

[olive ember]

and the light attack is light

[olive ember]

unless you miss the first swing on purpose its the same as the obscurus, an overhead

[cyan notch]

heavy is only slightly less diagonal

[olive ember]

the heavy 2 on the FS is basically a horizontal cleave

idk wat you talking about

[spice veldt]

the angle is quite steep but it's not too bad

[olive ember]

the h1 on deimos is like

[cyan notch]

it is absolutely not horizontal

[hybrid solstice]

oh i see

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, so we got a horde FS and a funny fire feat

[void mural]

New even more single target, single targeter FS is pretty meh?

[ornate hamlet]

I'm liking where this is going

[olive ember]

idk I think the deimos is a meh obscurus, Blooddrunk thinks the obscurus is a meh deimos

[brave plume]

Yeah unless you're using flame staff maybe I can't see ever using it?

[olive ember]

so just run both and decide for yourself I suppose

[hybrid solstice]

the profane weapon shop is so ass, fatshark please buff this useless feature

[cyan notch]

you get better light spam and basically same heavy + light combo and u get ultra strong stab and im pretty sure the lights are faster

[void mural]

Yeah, I was really questioning wtf they were thinking when they said a single target FS... like, don't we have one already?

[cyan notch]

and much better mobility

[hybrid solstice]

so the new force sword both have the same exact special as the obscurus right

[olive ember]

I mean better than before we got it which was nothing kek, Legit had like 500k gold and nothing to do with it

[olive ember]

not exactly, the move set is wte the heavy moveset of the FS is

the only problem is that

[spice veldt]

the illis has a power sword-like special

[olive ember]

usign the special resets the chain

so you are always using h1

[void mural]

"Better", but still basically the worst solution that can still be considered a "solution"

[olive ember]

and both obscurus and deimos h1

are overheads

so they basically function the same

unless ofc you miss the first attack on purpose after activating the special and then follow up

[faint vault]

How does the buffed obscurus compare to the new ones?

[lethal folio]

You can push and go into the stab

[cyan notch]

no point to whiff the first attack if youre using special

[hybrid solstice]

ive seen someone use a sample purchasing size of 500 profanes (they had an asston of dockets to spend) on reddit and the highest they got was a 370 with an average of like 340, and the profanes you buy in that shop are more expensive than the ones you buy in the exchange, it's literally not better than nothing

[olive ember]

I personally think its a better deimos, cuz imo the extra damage from the stab and the "better" lmb spam (haven't tested cuz you don't rly lmb spam on FS) isn't worth the trade off of a worse horde clear

especially since I could one shot maulers etc. with the original FS just fine

even without WU, and now with WU it def can hit the breakpoint without any scratch damage or warp charge/slaughterer fuckery

[void mural]

It is better than "nothing", it's just the absolute minimum to be actually not letting your dockets rot unspent. It's still a waste of time and dockets though

[faint vault]

Nice, thanks!

[olive ember]

but again try out both

see which one you prefer

blessings carry over between FS so yeah

[cyan notch]

deimos mobility is miles ahead of obscurus

[hybrid solstice]

no like it's actually not because you just blow dockets on literally nothing if you dont know what your odds are and opt not to. without that you have more money for rebless and the exchange

[olive ember]

Well before you would never actually have enough items to buy with gold. Like its an hourly reset, with maybe 2 weapons that are 350+ of which they might not even be the weapons you want

[faint vault]

Have to check it out. Have a weird feeling I'll go back to Antax or knife, hehe.