#psyker-class

1 messages · Page 421 of 1

viral solstice
#

GETTING THE CORPUSCLES MOVING

#

great piece of writing

austere estuary
#

hoo

#

this gonna depend a lot on the second blessing LUL

feral verge
#

gl

austere estuary
#

oof

#

rip

feral verge
#

oof

#

thanks fatshark

austere estuary
#

if only sustained fire worked on consecutive secondaries

#

even then though

wide tiger
#

A lot worse lol

#

after having fantastic rolls on both, for some reason purg doesnt stagger nearly as much as flamer does

#

MEEELK

#

bring me bloodthirsty

spice veldt
#

t4 slaughterer :o

wide tiger
#

yeah ill take it

#

but i want my bloodthirsty

#

you get a pass this time melk

trim garnet
#

so with blazing spirit and bloodthirsty will every individual tick of the special attack apply the soulblaze stacks

wide tiger
#

yeah

#

like

trim garnet
#

so it'll instantly maximize it to whatever the cap is

wide tiger
#

the second special you do

trim garnet
#

yeah so you special kill something

wide tiger
#

yeah

#

and then its all crits

trim garnet
#

and then special attack thing numer two

wide tiger
#

yeah 3 procs

trim garnet
#

niiice

#

so that would put you at the cap of 12 stacks since its 3 ticks of 4 with a max level blazing spirit?

wide tiger
#

If melk brings bloodthirsty tomorrow and im out of currency cause of slaughterer 4 ima be pissed

primal fjord
#

What are good perks to put on melee weapons on Psyker? For Combat Axe and Dueling Sword?

wide tiger
#

i think the cap is 10?

wide tiger
trim garnet
#

thanks for the info thumbsup_ogryn

wintry plover
#

Just picked this up from Melk. First time I've seen bloodthirsty. Is it a blessing that can only roll on oranges?

feral verge
#

nah it's not orange dependent

#

no blessings are 'color' dependent

#

other than greys dont get blessings

wintry plover
#

I thought power cycler on power swords is orange only

spice veldt
#

holy shit

feral verge
#

nah it has nothing to do with color

#

you can roll a t4 on a blue item

spice veldt
#

the working theory is that higher rating = higher chance of greater tiered blessings

proven raven
#

Power Cycler is just rare as fuck, and blues have a lower chance of getting higher level blessings than yellows

spice veldt
#

not that it is strictly impossible to get it from a green->blue consecration, but that the chance is lower

proven raven
#

and melk passes out T3 blessings like candy

#

except when he gives you a 2

#

what a loser /s

wintry plover
#

Yeah, I'm glad I've been saving my melkbucks for something good

feral verge
#

that's the best tactic

viral solstice
#

ive been saving my melkcoins for bad things

feral verge
#

just pick out a handfull of blessings you want, in your head

#

and never stray from that

feral verge
feral verge
#

you dont minmax

#

you maxmin

wide tiger
#

You made my slaughterer 4 pick up look terriblle

#

how dare you

wide tiger
#

i think if you use it on a full purg stack you can get it up to 16 or something though?

#

like a weird quirk

#

4 psyker damnation runs are hard

#

kind of a commentary on the state of the class

humble star
#

Slowly BB all the shooters pogryn

forest coral
#

much easier to do overall damage on zeal and vet

feral verge
forest coral
#

on that one build maybe

feral verge
#

yeah, jsut that build

#

i out damaged flamer zealot and bolter vet

#

(i'm Mai)

forest coral
#

been going for a few avg numbers on damnation runs, unless running that specific build its actually rare for me to go past 200k on psyker on other staffs unless hi5 or something

cyan notch
feral verge
#

with void i dont think i go past 230k

forest coral
#

whilst its quite easy to push 250-300+ on most zealot plays

feral verge
#

everytihng else is below that

forest coral
#

ye

feral verge
# cyan notch nope

in my experience they are. if i match with 2 other psykers there's a 90% chance of failure

#

its gotten to the point where if i match with 2 others, i leave

cyan notch
#

not for me

#

pretty smooth experiences

forest coral
#

even if topping out with kb build this is like

feral verge
#

2 psykers is the smoothspot imo

forest coral
#

avg damage i usually see on non purg

cyan notch
#

i only ever consider quitting with a shield ogryn

#

cause i know we are going to have to babysit and pick that guy up 500 times

feral verge
#

looking at my screenshots

#

i get 230+ with voidstrike

#

379 with void or trauma here

forest coral
#

i can see that happening in hi5 with trauma

feral verge
#

hjard to tell because i like putting other staff skins on

forest coral
#

ye

#

but back to point tho

feral verge
#

but for psyker unless it's purga

forest coral
#

i dont think 4 psykers is exactly awful

#

unless its like all surge or something

feral verge
#

i really have to try to get the big damage numbers

forest coral
#

ye

feral verge
#

i just got back from this game on my zealot

#

(Theil)

#

brain was off for most of it

#

230k damage easily attained with brain off

cyan notch
feral verge
#

that shieldgryn carried

#

158 attacks blocked

forest coral
feral verge
#

yall wouldve died

forest coral
#

reminds me of dumb mid joins

clear heath
#

I've been seeing a lot of ogryn players lately

#

did something happen?

cyan notch
#

no damage no kills no nothing most damage taken most downs

forest coral
#

not sure

#

probably people getting bored on other classes and trying ogryn in damn

feral verge
#

you look like the savant psyker stereotype @cyan notch

cyan notch
#

there arent a lot of cosmetics that look good

feral verge
#

savant stereotype

cyan notch
#

i dont use that hair

feral verge
#

ik

#

but you got all the rest

forest coral
#

HE GOT DA WHOLE PACKAGE

feral verge
#

im biased maybe, but i think this looks good

forest coral
#

THE ENTIRE BAKERY

long wharf
#

definitely biased

cyan notch
#

they dont have normal faces

forest coral
#

Like i aint expecting super models but

cyan notch
#

half of them look like a grenade exploded in their face

feral verge
#

lol

forest coral
#

or fridge dropped on them as a baby or somethin

feral verge
#

like they been punched in the face or take roids or testosterone

cyan notch
#

they all look like variations of this

feral verge
#

definitely shocking

#

wouldnt want to wake up next to those faces

forest coral
#

heck

#

male customization has nice options

cyan notch
#

even the hair is all shit

blazing oak
#

Reroll sprint efficiency or unarmored damage? I assume sprint efficiency.

forest coral
#

ye

#

worthless on psyker

blazing oak
#

What about other classes

#

I get ignored when I ask on their channels

forest coral
#

and mostly worthless on other classes

blazing oak
#

Alright

feral verge
forest coral
#

its loss of huge damage potential so u can run 5 more meters

cyan notch
#

unless you really like sprinting

feral verge
#

sprinting is bad on psyker

#

you take increased damage

forest coral
#

sliding on psyker tho

blazing oak
#

Alright I’m gonna reroll it to flak damage or something on my Chainaxe

forest coral
cyan notch
#

people still sprint cuz its easier

forest coral
#

aesthetically i can only really stand my vet without a mask

wide tiger
#

Idk ive been playing 4 psyker runs

forest coral
#

and ogryn

wide tiger
#

and its rough

#

psyker pubs die a lot

#

lol

feral verge
#

that's a cool look

wide tiger
#

and then im alone

forest coral
#

ty

#

i went for vet who is 'sick of this shit'

wide tiger
#

1 day away from retirement vet

#

lol

feral verge
#

yeah most psyker pubs are meh

wide tiger
#

just on average

#

i think psykers are the weakest class performance wise

feral verge
#

many will explode several times a game lol

wide tiger
#

yeah you get good players

#

but on average psykers just dont perform as well as some of the other classes, my opinion

forest coral
#

best performance without question are actually good vets

feral verge
#

take a screenshot lol

#

not a phone pic

blazing oak
#

Steam deck

forest coral
#

you simply wont catch up to their damage

blazing oak
#

I’d have to publish the photo to steam

forest coral
#

unless said ab purg build

wide tiger
#

yeah vets run away with damage between power sword and their ranged weaponry

cyan notch
#

psyker doesnt have i dont feel like taking damage from ranged today like vet or i dont feel like dying today or maybe ill just heal to full hp from a couple swings like zealot

blazing oak
feral verge
#

or the infinite toughness regen that ogryn get

#

when in horde

wide tiger
#

I find with 4 psykers we just dont have the beef to stand up to big ambushes

#

if we have the CC to survive, great

#

but otherwise overwhelmage

blazing oak
#

Give me horde melee dammit

cyan notch
#

skill issue tbh

#

everyone has f

wide tiger
#

i mean if you think 4 pubs are gonna time their F's together i think you're out to lunch

cyan notch
#

no i dont mean anything about timing anything

#

everyone has cc is what im saying

wide tiger
#

yeah and their staves have CC too but you cant CC everything lol

#

esp in like a hi5

cyan notch
#

yea u kill the rest of the stuff

wide tiger
#

where you just have an onslaught of bulwarks and elites trailing behind

fiery atlas
fallow meadow
#

As long as the zealot is picking flamers, pub zealot are mostly fine.

fiery atlas
#

Sorry, three hours ago

wide tiger
#

Im just going off my experience, 4 psyker runs are the hardest i have to try

fiery atlas
#

Did a 4 psyker heresy run in pubs

wide tiger
#

noticeably different than regular runs

#

and yeah, shitty pubs exist, but its not just a coincidence

cyan notch
#

yalls regions pub psykers must be hella noob

fiery atlas
#

We called each other 'siblings' and unleashed our purge staves on a poor plague ogryn

fallow meadow
#

Psyker just don't have much opinion to get out of a sticky situation.

fiery atlas
#

He stood no chance

#

Poor bastard

feral verge
#

basgard

wide tiger
#

I think psyker just cant stand up to big pressure

#

have to run and hide constantly

#

but when you run out of space to run and hide

fiery atlas
wide tiger
#

glass cannons?

#

vets a cannon

#

we're glass ill give you a 50%

feral verge
#

only w ith purga and AB do you become glass cannon

fiery atlas
#

We're glass cannons because our BB ability

#

That's about it

wide tiger
#

:\

cyan notch
#

they can definitely handle pressure

fiery atlas
#

Dueling sword makes you a little less of a glass cannon

#

More of a "glass baseball"

cyan notch
#

just gotta want the dub enough

feral verge
#

i love duelling sword

proven raven
#

as a psyker main, psykers do be lackin

#

couldn't honestly tell you how to fix it though

fallow meadow
#

Psyker can do some good niche things that other can't, but lack the power to break the stickly situations that the game will throw on you.

cyan notch
#

skill issue imo

gilded viper
#

i just got hit with that tbh

#

use KS > KD for 1 run, lost cause i couldn't clutch revive 3 of my teammate caues i was using a taxe and would had gotten instant guard broken RWwhy

#

use my ult, res one then they instant die to dog jumping them

feral verge
#

I always run KD

wide tiger
cyan notch
wide tiger
#

Im in north america, east if thats a region

gilded viper
#

me too, just want to try to see if i can get away without blocking too much but not using it for one run basically remind me that i run KD as a revive tool > block tool for myself

cyan notch
#

oof maybe not then

#

ping is gonna be ass

wide tiger
#

I mean i play with a guy in germany and he never has issues

fiery atlas
#

With BB

wide tiger
#

lol

#

you should light up targets for your vet

#

with BB

fiery atlas
#

Even if they're not scabs you should be doing it anyways

wide tiger
#

you're a laser pointer weee

#

I play vet, zealot, psyker and man i really feel the difference

cyan notch
#

i dont like getting hit through block from latency

wide tiger
#

or getting shot in slide

feral verge
#

Skill issue

fiery atlas
#

Yeah zealot just says "lol" and beheads people

feral verge
#

I have psyker and zealot and zealot is definitely brain off for me

#

Atleast compared to psyker

#

I only play damnation

#

Brain off psyker = ded

cyan notch
#

yea cuz dying is just a suggestion for zealots

gilded viper
#

TRUE

#

unless they don't take the healing feat

wide tiger
#

vets can get overwhelmed too

feral verge
#

I take it

wide tiger
#

i feel like they are the most dependent on a good team

#

like

#

having frontliners as a vet is great

cyan notch
#

i feel thats mostly their fault for refusing to use melee or not knowing how to melee

fiery atlas
#

And then they start swinging heavy sword around like no one's business

long wharf
#

Is the zealot trap card to go down for the third time this mission?

fiery atlas
#

Thunder hammer if you want more brain off interactions

feral verge
#

Yeah with thammer is just relentless charge the boss till it's dead

wide tiger
feral verge
#

Run in BAM, back off run in BAM back off run in BAM dead

cyan notch
#

idk it kinda does mean ur invincible

wide tiger
#

alright

#

so this conversation is

#

Im invincible in melee therefore

#

all classes are godlike

#

and there can be no disparity in power

#

very good

forest coral
#

zealots wil lsay

#

its zealin time and then zeal all over the heretics

#

and their near death experience was nothing more than skin exfoliation

#

very smooth and silky now

pine hearth
#

does sustained fire do anything on voidstrike?

cyan notch
#

no its vets are invincible in melee so they arent "most dependent on a good team" idk where u got the whatever power disparity thing

fiery atlas
#

Only time u should be in melee as psyker is when all ranged threats are dead and you need to dps bulwark or mauler with fs special

#

Or boss idc

#

Toughness needs a buff imo

wide tiger
#

So anyways

fiery atlas
#

It's not like zealot where you regen toughness per swing

feral verge
#

All's I'm gonna say is that you have a small handful of people saying psyker is fine/perfect balance/survivability wise, then a very large amount saying that there's something off with the balance/survivability. So are all those people wrong/bad at the game? Hmmm.

forest coral
#

yes

#

all skill issue

fiery atlas
cyan notch
#

a lot of it is cuz theyre shit

fiery atlas
feral verge
cyan notch
#

but sure u have to work harder as psyker in some situations

fiery atlas
#

Psyker is OK if you work well with your team I just think toughness needs a lil buff

feral verge
#

Yeah maybe 50 extra toughness or higher toughness Regen

hybrid zephyr
#

What blessings should I go for on Trauma staff

fiery atlas
#

@viral solstice too

feral verge
cyan notch
#

flurry and whatever u want

fiery atlas
cyan notch
#

theres not much to choose from and besides flurry they arent game changing

fiery atlas
#

Toughness just doesn't hold up well in heresy or higher

wide tiger
#

you get a few players who are like, Im so good i dont ever get hit and kill everything. When you're that good you can play any class and be godlike

viral solstice
#

i have never used trauma so my view is u should use the ones that look the coolest

wide tiger
#

so you arent really contributing to a conversationm

hybrid zephyr
#

kk and for stats, is there a dump stat on trauma?

wide tiger
#

you're just flexing on a discord channel

cyan notch
#

a little warp res and a little quell

#

maybe a little damage

fallow meadow
#

Toughness just melt in damnation and give your enemy a free stun.
Not for vet though

viral solstice
fiery atlas
#

Wait why did I reply to that

feral verge
#

Yeah why did you reply to that

#

Can we ban this guy

fiery atlas
#

Brain moment

feral verge
#

What an idiot omg

fiery atlas
#

Idk maybe we'll wait and see what devs do for game balance

#

Either they'll buff the classes or rework damage values for enemies or both

fallow meadow
#

I personally feels purge+BB focus psyker give me the most stable damnation run. Surge+axe can do the job but just cant change the tide when things go south on the team.

cyan notch
#

theyll probably do that in a major rebalance patch idk if this upcoming one is it (probably not)

feral verge
#

Purga and AB wreck damnation yeah

fiery atlas
#

Or maybe they'll do the fatshark meme of "we add weapons to fix our problems omegalul"

spice veldt
#

i think psyker's toughness regen feats are good

#

but the fact that I need to play through an animation to activate the special on my force sword

#

is so shit

#

all our secondaries are charge

#

so much downtime just to use peril

#

and the one warp ability that works on click, the LMB of our staffs, is kind of shit

fiery atlas
#

They really want to throw the idea of it being a risk-reward glass cannon wep out there

spice veldt
#

very unresponsive and there's just downtime here and downtime there

#

i'm fine with having downtime for quelling since we're basically reloading

feral verge
#

I honestly forget to use lmb on trauma and void lol

#

Cause they're so shit

viral solstice
#

lmb fucks its left

fallow meadow
#

Yeah, psyker have the best t1 feats. All three are useful depends on the build.

spice veldt
#

but if they're going to encourage peril generation during combat with abilities like Kinetic Shield and Warp Unleashed, they better fucking make using the Force Sword's special better

fiery atlas
#

Yeah because most of your usefulness comes from m2

fiery atlas
#

Fatshark did this w/ sienna's staves in vt2

feral verge
#

Staff special

#

Way more useful

fiery atlas
#

True

fallow meadow
#

Lmb is good for stuning small things quickly, but that is it.

fiery atlas
#

Weak ass poke special LESGO

spice veldt
#

like, you can skip out of the Chainsword's special activation animation, but you can't do that with the Force Sword for whatever reason

#

so stupidly clunky

feral verge
#

Atleast the anim looks cool

fiery atlas
cyan notch
#

u cant do that with hammer too i dont think

fallow meadow
#

Most wep special is shit tbf.

spice veldt
#

i hate zealots since they get heavy swords, so they probably deserve it

fiery atlas
#

True

#

Heavy swords are fun

cyan notch
#

if anything chainsword seems like an outlier if u can just cancel it

fiery atlas
#

I love catachan sword more tho

spice veldt
#

3 target hard cap on TH's attacks and a special activation you can't skip

fallow meadow
#

What is heavy sword good for? Had try the move set a couple time, but never get any feeling from it.

fiery atlas
#

It's mostly cleave weap

spice veldt
#

the MKIX in particular has 7.5 cleave on its lights
and all Heavy Swords have access to a buffed version of Headtaker

cyan notch
#

its like if devils claw was good

#

and had ultra buffed blessings

spice veldt
#

At t4, it's +15% power up to 5 stacks, and you get stacks for simply hitting enemies

fiery atlas
#

But it's got a special that does some single target dmg

#

It's actually pretty good for melee only zealots

spice veldt
#

unlike Slaughterer where the condition is killing enemies

fiery atlas
#

It got buffed a while ago

fallow meadow
#

Just feels like a bad devils claw by the move set its own.
Soooo what I need is a overpower blessing.

spice veldt
#

here's the cleave of the Heavy Sword MKIX

#

and here's the cleave distribution of its lights on a Poxwalker

fiery atlas
#

Light spam has never been more viable

spice veldt
#

lmb go brrr

cyan notch
#

its ok psykers have duelling sword with uh precog and uh riposte and uh

fiery atlas
#

Going to best buy every week because your lmb develops ptsd

spice veldt
#

contrast this with the Devil Claws which all have at most 3.6 cleave on its lights

#

and for comparison, here's the cleave distribution of a sweeping light attack on a Devil Claw

#

look at that whopping 8.81 damage

#

beautiful, isn't it?

spice veldt
#

and here's the cleave distribution of a sweeping heavy attack on a devil claw

hybrid glade
#

What is the functional difference between the various dueling swords

spice veldt
#

the minimum cleave damage on a devil claw is WORSE than the minimum cleave damage on an MKIX heavy sword's light

#

27.42 compared to 36.27

#

and devil claws don't even get power blessings

fiery atlas
#

They're meant to be finesse weapons but funnier on force swords

spice veldt
#

MKV is really the only distinct one because of its Defence stat that scales block and push cost

hybrid glade
#

Ive been using an MK V and not really found it wanting for an yreason. Not sure what the differences for the others are

fiery atlas
#

Dueling sword has better cleave i believe

spice veldt
#

All duelling swords have at most 2 cleave on their lights and heavies

#

As far as I remember, the heavy stabs have 0.7 or 1 cleave

hybrid glade
#

Trying a force sword now for the first time

spice veldt
#

I guess their attack combos and whether they have an overhead/diagonal/stab for their heavies is the difference

#

make sure to use a force sword with the Slaughterer blessing

hybrid glade
#

Also, a question I only feel the need to ask because fatshark. But, does wearing a head piece increase my hit box in any way shape or form?

feral verge
#

I highly doubt it

fallow meadow
#

Just use dueling sword to run and jump fast.

#

Mk4 have the worst slowest melee loop, so just not that one.

cyan notch
#

mk4 is good all headshot angles

fallow meadow
#

A better word to be specific

feral verge
#

Mk4 also the drippiest dueling sword. That's why I use it

hybrid glade
#

Ok I do NOT like the force swordd.

fallow meadow
#

I am not a fan of its pokieness on both heavy and push attack

hybrid glade
#

Lol, we wiped on the 2nd room

feral verge
#

What level are you

hybrid glade
#

30

#

Had two people go off a ledge because they didnt push a poxburster

feral verge
#

Do you know the horde clear combo for fs?

hybrid glade
#

Monstrosity threw another off the ledge

#

I do not, I am going back to dueling sword

cyan notch
gaunt stone
#

is warp flurry still bugged on surge staff?

hybrid glade
#

I do not liek the force swords dodging potential

feral verge
#

Light, heavy, block cancel

feral verge
#

It has infinite dodge potential

hybrid glade
#

I mean the distance it doges

#

*dodges

feral verge
#

FS is the only weapon with infinite dodge count

hybrid glade
#

I got pinned by a horde that would not have pinned me with the DS

spice veldt
#

just gotta keep in mind that the dodge distance isn't enough to get out of the attack range of most attacks, so you'll need to dodge sideways against running attacks

feral verge
#

It's not so bad if you slide

spice veldt
#

if you proc slaughterer, the power buff will increase the strength of your pushes

hybrid glade
#

It was just a green sword. Nothing to proc really

spice veldt
#

f

hybrid glade
#

Ill give it another chance afteR I build one up

#

I want 4-5 viable builds on all classes.

gaunt stone
feral verge
#

Purga + ascendant blaze is the most viable build imo

long wharf
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

feral verge
#

Psyker has a few viable builds

pine hearth
#

sustained fire work with voidstrike animation cancel?

#

dk if quell cancels it

spice veldt
#

you can quell-cancel LMBs and still get the buff from sustained fire

fallow meadow
#

Purge+dueling is my build. I rarely use the sword though.

fallow meadow
#

Anyone think FS will fix the useless special on most wep?

cyan notch
#

its mostly the ranged weapons

#

and no

spice veldt
#

specials sometimes chain into later attacks of a chain, so there's a use for that

#

on the MK4 Duelling Sword, doing a special into a light skips the first 2 lights to the 3rd light

fallow meadow
#

I was thinking about mostly the little bash on range wep. Yeah, melee mostly have their use.

spice veldt
#

add some warp thingamajig to the staff special and make it generate peril

#

boom

fallow meadow
#

Just add force on the bash and let us push enemy away or something.

cyan notch
#

they have to make em on par-ish with torchlight

#

so idk what they can do

spice veldt
#

can't even trust dodging mutants near walls

#

dodged a mutant but he 180s into my ass

cold geode
#

had that shit happen to me repeatedly this week

long osprey
#

Melk gave me a bloodthirsty IV blessing that gives 100% crit on special attack kill but do I keep 100% crit chance if I keep the sword equipped ?

#

How does it work?

cyan notch
#

100% crit for 5s after special attack kill

fallow meadow
#

I have heard the buff will maintain for 5s. Not sure about wep change.

long osprey
#

Ok, it wasn’t written on the blessing I think

cyan notch
#

yea its not

long osprey
#

The other blessing is the one that apply soulblaze on crit but it’s only 2 stacks so it sucks

#

Should be at least 4 stacks for tier III

cyan notch
#

u can apply it pretty fast with bloodthirsty as u can imagine

long osprey
#

Ah true, it’s just most things died pretty quick so didn’t get to test much

#

Gonna give it a chance again Sunday

fallow meadow
#

Lmb two time with purge seems faster if you are looking for soulblaze

long osprey
#

The weapon came up with both blessings so I was trying to figure out the synergy possible

#

Thanks guys good night

fallow meadow
#

I guess it will be better to change if the other blessing is good?
PS special critical already killing most of the things on itself. And for those don't, soulblaze isn't doing much to it either. Better just hit it with another special.

wide tiger
#

Has anyone ever seen 5 ammo in one train in chasm logistratum raid?

#

just happened to us on the right train

lunar hollow
#

ive seen 4

steel flame
#

Happened tonight actually

steel flame
#

Or 12

#

Nvm

magic burrow
#

Purgatus is probably the best build in the fact that almost every feat synergizes well with it, but I think you can make a build with any staff work in Damnation. We have a couple of weak feats, but overall Psyker is in a good place right now.

#

Lately I've been playing Gunpsyker with the shredder autopistol, and that's a lot of fun too when you get bored of staff psyker.

steel flame
ornate hamlet
#

Speaking of staves, I'm loving how voidstrike works compared to surge and that not-conflagration one

shadow wigeon
#

You can get ten L1 swings off from Bloodthirsty

cyan notch
#

its 5s

spice veldt
#

it lasts longer than Slaughterer, so it's certainly more than that

#

I can get 6 critical heavies off

cyan notch
shadow wigeon
#

Oh yeah you can get 5. Man it's tight though, had to get swinging right after the animation lock breaks

#

Got 10 swings off Finesse 75, but that 10th one is right on the edge, misses the window sometimes

spice veldt
#

I can get 11 swings with a 79% finesse FS

shadow wigeon
#

I do wish Flaming Sword was more... useful. Those burn stacks really hit for a lot, but so awkward.

ionic frost
#

If only Bloodthirsty + Blazing Spirit made your sword visibly flaming until bloodthirsty ended... =D

near wyvern
steel flame
#

Ah

near wyvern
#

Give FS Surge KEKW_ogryn

steel flame
#

I really need to find blazing spirit. Still have never gotten a single weapon to roll the blessing

#

Since I started playing

near wyvern
#

I am missing the Bloodthirsty, only have like 2 T4 blessings for FS but 10/11 for T3

steel flame
#

I've got bloodthirsty at least

#

I wish I could put blood thirsty on a staff. Bonk somebody with the void staff special then crit kill the entire map in 5 seconds

#

Probably best it never goes on a staff on second thought

fallow meadow
#

Got a bunch Shred force sword when I try to farm blessing.

#

I didn't even have much in my FS blessing pool but I somehow just keep getting them.

steel flame
#

I got 16 ghost t3 blessings out of 40 when hunting for infernus

#

It's very annoying

#

FATSHARK: alright varlets, we've been listening to your feed back about wanting popular systems from vermintide 2 brought to darktide, and so we are happy to announce, psykers will now take health damage from active quelling above 30% peril. I hope you all enjoy

ionic frost
#

lol

#

And we hear you veterans: Plasma gun at 100% heat will now fire a supercharged 100% heat blast that lowers heat to 0% and annihilates everything in the blast radius.

near wyvern
steel flame
wide tiger
ionic frost
#

@near wyvern the devs said they are weighted...it's why I don't have power cycler yet, probably a 0.5% drop chance

steel flame
#

I just love LAYERS of rng

ionic frost
#

I love this game, but until it's more accessible to players it'll still get a thumbs down from me. Can't recommend something that other people will hate due to RNG bullshit.

steel flame
#

We cant just have RNG anymore we gotta layer that shit like a 12 layer lasagna of bullshite

ionic frost
#

All my friends quit once they realized how bad the grind was and how little content there is.

#

Every time I reroll a perk I'm cursing Fatshark with every click.

#

Stupid nexus mods won't let me download without logging in, and that's too much work.

cloud sequoia
#

KEKW_ogryn if you trust someone in here they can give you the download

ionic frost
#

Fatshark needs to enable Steam Workshop, yesterday.

#

One day I'll feel un-lazy and recover my nexus pw...

#

Until then, I get to waste time rerolling and wonder why noone at Fatshark plays their game, or games in general.

fiery atlas
#

today is that day

#

get to work, psyker

ionic frost
#

Technically I'm an Omni-varlet.

fiery atlas
#

many emails to read, many disappoints to be discarded

ionic frost
#

Main all 4...

fiery atlas
#

we must grow our brains together gigasaltz

shadow wigeon
near wyvern
near wyvern
ionic frost
#

no bloodthirsty here either

#

but i do have Blazing Spirit IV

shadow wigeon
ionic frost
#

I'm in the process of leveling another psyker to maybe get some psyker gear from melk...

#

My main psyker only gets guns...

steel flame
#

Lol

steel flame
ionic frost
#

1/3,142,253 chance

#

doubled!!!!

steel flame
#

Lol

ionic frost
#

it is fun carrying newbs in low levels with heavy laspistol tho =P

#

They're probably like "wtf level 1 in uprising?"

#

It's crazy how long the shooters take to shoot at you

#

I feel invincible

near wyvern
ionic frost
#

I do have 10-20k melkbux on all my characters, except the lowbie

#

I do wish fatshark would've said definitively that we could earn blessings from deconstructing gear

#

I passed up some tier 4's I would've liked on bad gear months ago

#

I don't recall, but I might've seen a bloodthirsty in december

#

On like a 300 base force sword

fading heath
#

What perks and blessings should look for when making Purgatus aka fire stick?

magic burrow
#

uh

cold geode
#

lolwut

steel flame
ionic frost
#

I always knew they were level 1 trying to throw the game!

#

@steel flame Infernus

#

Oh wait, you said good reason...

steel flame
ionic frost
#

But I like Ghost and Reassuringly Accurate on laspistol. =)

magic burrow
#

that new force sword better be amazing for me to drop this for it

fiery atlas
ionic frost
#

Low damage, and MK II has a lot of upward strikes that don't hit heads...

#

they need to re-do it's moveset

#

Though really, if an attack goes through the enemy's body and comes out of it's head...shouldn't that be a weakpoint hit?

#

I know it isn't...

magic burrow
#

Im being stalked

steel flame
#

I can't find many reasons to take any saber over the knife

ionic frost
#

He's just trying to make you sing a new song...Doran Doran...

#

I only like the Mk 5...+15% dodge distance =)

#

Still not as good as knife

#

I wish we could get those fabled 6 dodge limit knives...sadly reserved for mobility over 80...

mossy bobcat
#

where does duelling sword shine ? it does low damage, only 4 dodges, it sprints very quick, I don't understand the middle click

steel flame
#

Special stuns

#

Saber has low block cost

spice veldt
#

it can stagger ragers

#

MK5 in particular has its block cost scale with the Defense stat

#

at 80%, it costs about 0.33 bars to block a groaner

#

The other two duelling swords will take 0.5 bars

#

And for comparison's sake, the Force Sword will take 1.5 bars to block a groaner

mossy bobcat
#

oh I see, so very good for blocking, and I think it has good cleave too

steel flame
#

Depends

spice veldt
#

not that you really want to block, of course, and it's kind of useless because of the duelling sword's high mobility

#

its cleave is actually pretty shit

#

lights and heavies will have at most 2 cleave

steel flame
spice veldt
#

2 cleave means that you can only hit three groaners (0.75 mass) or two poxwalkers (1 mass) in a single swing

mossy bobcat
#

this is my sword and I like the pokey heavy but it's very low dmg

spice veldt
#

the push-attack has 6 cleave, but its cleave damage distribution is extremely shit

mossy bobcat
#

I also have an mk5 I could maybe upgrade

spice veldt
#

If you stack block efficiency and grab +stam curios, you can tank Daemonhosts with just the MK5 duelling sword for a good while

#

though you will slowly run out, since even +56% block efficiency isn't good enough to out-regenerate his attacks

mossy bobcat
#

yeah I am stacking stamina already for that sweet force push

spice veldt
#

i take +3 stam curio too, esp because I don't run kinetic deflection

mossy bobcat
#

how about blessings, what blessings do I really want ?

#

on the duel sword

spice veldt
#

on which weapon?

mossy bobcat
#

MK5 to be specific if I start upgradding it

near wyvern
spice veldt
#

all blessings on the duelling sword except precognition are pretty viable iirc

#

not that the duelling swords have a large blessing pool anyways

#

they only have 5 blessings I think? Shred, Precognition, Riposte, Uncanny Strike, Rampage

mossy bobcat
#

I guess shred is always good, maybe with riposte

fiery atlas
cold geode
#

doesnt register dodges correctly so it never works right i believe

#

latency and the like fuck with it

spice veldt
#

it registers dodges correctly

#

oh it doesn't in actual missions?

cold geode
#

no idea

spice veldt
#

it works in the meatgrinder fine at least

cold geode
#

i dont use it cause its crap

spice veldt
#

the problem with precognition is that the bonus it gives is extremely bad

cold geode
#

that too

spice veldt
#

because +weakspot and +critical dmg only boosts the bonus crit/weakspot damage

#

that link explains it

#

and at t4, it only gives +10%

wide tiger
#

Precog and riposte work in mission according to show buffs mod

cold geode
#

bah, so dead tonight, no one wants to do HI 5 😐

spice veldt
#

i'm watching youtube rn

#

have fun doing a solo hi5

cold geode
#

100%

steel flame
drifting arrow
#

question, what should i aim for as base stats in general... i got 379 on my first roll so i am spoiled...

steel flame
#

380 is the highest you can go

spice veldt
#

and all stats are capped at 80%

#

"dumpstats" are stats that you can usually be fine with being low
on the Force Sword, warp resistance and mobility are the dumpstats

drifting arrow
#

yeah but i cant keep rolling got no money... anything over 360 good enough?

steel flame
spice veldt
#

a 340 Force Sword is what I roll with

#

mostly because it has two good blessings

steel flame
#

Yeah...
If only

#

I'm at work

cold geode
#

lol

#

GG

steel flame
#

Nightshift can suck sometimes

cold geode
#

yea

fallow meadow
#

Having a 380 with shit roll mean nothing anyway. So I will use whatever is good enough

steel flame
#

Lots of weapons have dump stats so many 360 can be better than 380

spice veldt
#

i could probably do with having 0% warp res on a force sword

#

so 300 if you like being at 100% peril all the time

rocky cedar
#

It's uhhhhh better warp unleashed uptime, yeah we'll go with that.

spice veldt
#

quietude users be like

rocky cedar
#

Skissue

fiery atlas
rocky cedar
#

No only damage related stats

fading heath
#

Anyone could tell me which perks and blessings i should get on purgatus staff?

olive ember
#

technically speaking you would want flurry over barrage but its currently broken rn

#

so yeah

fading heath
#

i see

olive ember
#

perks you can basically go for the typical maniac and flak dmg, or swap out one of them for crit

#

purge crits apply two stacks of burn, which is why its worth running crit

fading heath
#

thanks

hexed marsh
fallow meadow
#

Seems warp nexus is a must on staff?

olive ember
#

only on purge and surge

#

Meta Blessings:

Surge & Purge: Warp Nexus + Terrifying Barrage (Warp Nexus is the important one, Swap Barrage for Warp Flurry if/when it gets fixed)
Voidstrike: Transfer Peril + Warp Flurry (Both are pretty important)
Trauma: Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave (Warp Flurry is the important one, shockwave is just extra)

fading heath
#

Someone could pin this ☝️

honest frigate
#

Pin it for free aquilas

#

Totally not fake

olive ember
#

Someone please help these poor souls

cyan notch
#

maybe malice

olive ember
#

Actually living in alternate reality

fallow meadow
#

I am not using FS in damnation, and I use purge lol.

uneven panther
#

How do you do fellow psykers? Having fun clearing penances? harold

olive ember
#

I’ve had mine done since like December

near wyvern
olive ember
#

Catachan

fallow meadow
#

Giving up on that quite a while. Not having fun with penances.

olive ember
#

Also I bring FS into my damnation games with surge staff

#

Works fine for me kek

#

Personal preference rly but

uneven panther
near wyvern
#

Good armour pen

olive ember
#

To dare say the claw sword is good… much less better than the FS

#

Fucking heresy

near wyvern
olive ember
#

Tbh half of me almost wishes I still had some stupid penance on Psyker left to do

#

Cuz god damn there’s nothing to do

uneven panther
#

You can help me? ahha

olive ember
#

Key words ofc being “half of me” and “almost”

uneven panther
#

idk what they were thinking with the penances, honestly

olive ember
#

Back when cliffhanger was 20 enemies not fucking eight

uneven panther
olive ember
#

What penances you need anyways

uneven panther
#

Blowy uppy and kill monster with BB

olive ember
#

uneven panther
#

1st one actively harms teamplay. 2nd one does too....but is completely impossible in with pugs

#

"Ah yes, play your class worse and kill yourself. Have fun!"

olive ember
#

2nd one best bet is to get a shieldgryn from LFG to help

#

Same with first one actually

#

Both are aids

uneven panther
olive ember
#

Oh yeah also using FS with deflector can make out with a bang easier

#

Push three shotgunners in a corner with shield ogryn

#

Blow up

#

Success

fallow meadow
#

The worst thing is blowing yourself up don't do much damage.

olive ember
#

They nerfed the blow up damage at one point

#

Was funny

uneven panther
#

People on forums either despise the penances or are like "Oh I got it randomly lmao"

#

If you're a half decent psyker, why would you ever be in a group of elites with 100% peril?

olive ember
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

I’ve seen a guy do it once

#

Think he was using trauma or purge, started blowing up halfway through the horde event

#

And walked into the horde and fucking got the achievement

#

I was livid but eh congrats I guess

uneven panther
#

Have we gotten any kind of official response to the penance backlash?

olive ember
#

Lmao they changed cliffhanger from 20 enemies to 8, changed malleus wte from 100% to 90% and changed pick n mix from 10 seconds to 12

near wyvern
olive ember
#

That’s pmuch it

uneven panther
#

"Just get friends"?

#

That's a hard sell for a game that's "Mixed" on steam

near wyvern
olive ember
#

Ez pz

near wyvern
uneven panther
#

And yet no sibling in the world wants to suffer for a penance harold

near wyvern
#

Well JK I did have firends but most of them quit the game already. Did manage to get them to get my goggles before they quit tho.

olive ember
#

It wouldn’t do if I lessened your suffering

olive ember
#

The rest I LFG’ed and did in one sitting with a group I found at like 1 AM (took 5 hours and I went to bed at 6)

fallow meadow
#

cliffhanger is harder to get when you and your team are better on the game

olive ember
#

I mean there’s a way to get it easily

#

Find chasm logistratum and there’s an area off spawn where you just afk and wait for a horde

fallow meadow
#

I guess malleus is a fair change since one random shot from your turn can ruin the whole thing.
It won't stop that it is a stupid thing to do though.

olive ember
#

@uneven panther great news, turns out the vet plasma gun explosion still counts towards out with a bang

#

So try that instead

uneven panther
#

When do you get that? Don't have a vet yet

olive ember
#

Idr

#

Let’s say 15 for now lmao

safe crystal
#

How to do psyker penances 101:
Step 1: change into vet Sitgryn

olive ember
#

👍👍👍

uneven panther
stuck sinew
#

Eh, just do Comms Plex and get to the elevator hack section, spawns a billion shotgunners

drifting arrow
#

what is brittlenes as effect?

olive ember
#

Armor damage

drifting arrow
#

so like armor pen?

potent echo
#

hey guys, its been months since i've been here, do dreg shotgunners still ignore suppression from purgatus staff?

olive ember
#

Didn’t even know that was a thing but never saw a fix

olive ember
#

Basically there’s a coefficient for each weapon between 0 to 1

#

For armor damage

#

And brittleness increases that coefficient

drifting arrow
#

i have it on my combat axe so

#

what do use diamite for?

#

i have so much of it

fallow meadow
#

Just remember brittlenes is better since it work for the whole team.

drifting arrow
#

so that and brutal momentum i guess will be my blessings on combat axe?

#

so its good

olive ember
#

Brutal momentum and head taker/decimator

#

Both head taker and decimator increases power, and power increases damage, cleave, stagger. Axes also have a naturally high armor pen value iirc

astral lark
#

Can you brainburst barrels?

#

Pug psyker claims he did

olive ember
#

Nope

#

You can hit it normally though

fallow meadow
#

Do headtaker and limbsplitter stack?

olive ember
#

Ehhh yes but you want brutal momentum so only take one

#

Head taker being the better of the two

fallow meadow
#

power+power seems nice lol

olive ember
#

It’s eh

#

Only useful if you are using it for like crushers otherwise overkill

#

The important blessing on pmuch all axes is brutal momentum

#

And then a power blessing of your choice to assist in killing, head taker and decimator being the top choices

steel flame
#

FATSHARK: alright Convicts, we've been listening to your feedback about wanting popular systems from vermintide 2 brought to darktide, and so we are happy to announce, psykers will now take health damage from active quelling above 30% peril. After the last patch adding many QOL changes to psyker we feel this change will bring them back into line behind the other classes and bring it closer to how we feel psyker players need to suffer

olive ember
#

Sounds accurate

fiery atlas
#

would make playing psyker a pain in the ass more than it usually is when you're trying to BB like a gigachad

olive ember
#

Plasma gun vets get burned while venting

spice veldt
# drifting arrow what is brittlenes as effect?

Brittleness% is an enemy debuff for 5 seconds.

Let's say that you were using the Force Sword's heavy which deals 66% damage against Carapace by default. Then, if the enemy is debuffed with 25% brittleness, then you will deal 66% + 8.25% = 74.25% damage against Carapace instead. Where does this 8.25% come from? It comes from (100% - 66%) * 25% = 8.25%.

That is to say, brittleness% will mitigate the fact that a weapon does lower damage than usual to a particular armour type. However, if an attack already does 100% or more damage to an enemy, it will do nothing. E.g., the Force Sword's heavies do 100% damage against Unarmoured and thus will not benefit from brittleness% at all.

fallow meadow
#

vet are not forced to shoot plasma. We are force to use BB

spice veldt
#

brittleness% and rending% follow the same math as listed above, but rending% is a self-buff for a player and brittleness% is an enemy debuff

olive ember
#

Technically you can just not use BB

#

And just play gun psyker so you don’t touch the force at all

fiery atlas
#

yeah but what about force sword only users like me

#

i channel my powers thru da emprahz steel

fallow meadow
#

Oh yeah, does anyone knowledge the special attack on FS and chained wep count as multiple hit now?

#

I remember it was a question that had no answer back then.

fallow meadow
olive ember
#

Eh BB is overrated anyways

fallow meadow
#

It is not the best, but I would rather work with whatever I had.
By the way, it work fine on my purge dueling sword build.

#

The main complain is that it should one hit the dog.

spice veldt
#

why?

#

i really don't think that dogs should get trivialized by brain burst

olive ember
#

Meh I would prefer if dogs were one shot by BB

spice veldt
#

trappers are already pretty easy to deal with specifically because they get fucked by a single BB

unreal sedge
#

on void staff, is having less aoe better? i get way too many bodyshoots even while aiming at/higher than enemy heads

#

it's so annoying

olive ember
#

The jank ass targeting is annoying as is

unreal sedge
#

for the quell on weakspot blessing

olive ember
#

Idk why dogs have same hp as mauler

spice veldt
#

voidstrike just has a large hitbox and torso prioritization

#

you need to aim a good bit above the head of enemies

potent echo
#

WAIT

spice veldt
#

dogs also take 3x damage from melee

olive ember
#

Imo shit like dogs and bursters should be one shot BB

near wyvern
potent echo
#

you only lose 1 stack at a time?

#

when did they add that

olive ember
#

2 months ago

potent echo
#

psyker finally fixed

olive ember
#

Yeah it’s why psykers don’t run communion anymore besides purge staffs

potent echo
#

i havent played since 2022 lmao

olive ember
#

Ye

#

Makes sense

spice veldt
#

dogs and bursters have other methods to be dealt with by

#

BB shouldn't be this universal tool

potent echo
#

any other changes

spice veldt
#

it's already quite good for Bulwarks by ignoring their shield/staggering them for other attacks

near wyvern
unreal sedge
near wyvern
#

Also all or nothing gets you to 2 shot crushers with 6 stacks (WB) and CL

olive ember
#

It’s like the suicide bomber and the fast, janky pouncer that can turn on a dime isn’t one shot BB like bruh

#

I’m fine with something juggernaut ish like the mutant being what 3 Bb? But yeah the dog is bad imo

#

And it’s jank as well

spice veldt
#

and even if you don't run the force sword, the staff LMBs will always stagger them in the middle of their pounces

olive ember
#

The amount of times it goes flying into who knows where is rly annoying

near wyvern
#

At the very least BB should stop the dog on tracks when it hits

spice veldt
#

and we have an ult that pushes them

olive ember
#

That would work as well yeah

#

The slip n slide bs is also dumb

#

It’s like they get staggered and instantly recover into a pounce ready state and it’s like

#

Bruh wtf

spice veldt
#

their timer doesn't seem to stop while being staggered

fallow meadow
#

Burster is fine since there are different way to push it back.
Dog is not even with 3x melee. It just get up too fast for you to finish the job and jump out of your camera.

spice veldt
#

just chase them

olive ember
#

Nah bursters are dumb they should be one shot too

spice veldt
#

with full stacks slaughterer, you can push a horde away and kill them

#

they are one-shot by the trauma staff wink wink

idle bay
#

When you are doing casual Assassination mission for Scriptures for weekly and get 2nd "Untouchable" (technically)

olive ember
#

Nice nice

olive ember
#

Surge staff forever

unreal sedge
spice veldt
#

speaking of void, the secondary also tends to straight up kill them if you hit them in the middle of their pounce

fallow meadow
#

If staggered dog have a longer down time or suffer a speed debuff, I will consider that is fine. But now, I will stick with my opinion.

unreal sedge
#

void is love, void is life

#

if only it didn't magnet so much on the body when the projectile is visibly travelling through the enemies skulls

spice veldt
#

i'm fine with changes to dogs to fix them or alter them, but BB should not be able to one-shot them

#

fix the problem directly

fallow meadow
#

All staff lmb can stun nice, you don't need void for that.

spice veldt
#

i don't mean that it will stun them

#

I mean it very literally when I say that it will one-shot them

#

lemme see if I can find the videos by crab

unreal sedge
#

ye it's probably the xsame way surge kills them

#

stunned mid explosion = the fall, get up, explode on the spot

spice veldt
unreal sedge
#

with void they usually die before even jumping tho

#

cause 2shot them or so

spice veldt
#

dog rocket space program

unreal sedge
#

surge i wait for them to pounch or takes 2 long

unreal sedge
#

that's new

fiery atlas
#

other times it just doesn't work

olive ember
#

@leaden thunder meant to do this 4 hours ago but since you are on now

#

How ya feel

leaden thunder
#

FS is def better then the claw just for blessings alone

spice veldt
#

and having an actually useful special

olive ember
#

“It can just do everything. Good armor damage, good horde, good attack patterns”

cyan notch
#

on malice maybe

olive ember
#

Idk what the guys smoking but holy shit I need some of that

#

Idek what malice player would think the claw sword is good on armor

#

Try slapping a crusher with it on malice i doubt it’s much better

leaden thunder
#

like in should have good hoard

#

but rn it's just way undertuned

cyan notch
#

flak is still armour

olive ember
#

I doubt that’s what he’s referring to kek

spice veldt
#

and i'm pretty sure that devil claws have extreme doodoo damage on their lights against flak

leaden thunder
#

it do

#

hoping for some buffs to it next patch

#

it's pretty bad on all classes

#

and on zealot it's only use is to be a crit heavy sword that is worse

#

hopefully at least upping it's cleave and damage a bit

olive ember
#

I think it’s like 3 heavies to kill those bucket head dregs on damnation

#

It’s….. not good

leaden thunder
#

about yeah

fiery atlas
#

hey arcotash

cyan notch
#

depends on which mark ur using

fiery atlas
#

how much cleave does chainsaw sword have

leaden thunder
#

this is the cleave of the devil's claw mk 4

olive ember
#

I’m surprised tho of the trash mobs the fucking hobo ass bucket heads are the most annoying to deal with

leaden thunder
#

lights on the chainsword have like 2 cleave

#

heavies have like 6(?)

#

let me check

#

yeah heavies have 6

fiery atlas
olive ember
#

Cuz chainsword bad kek

leaden thunder
#

lights for single target heavies for hoard

#

I assume

#

if you have savage sweep/rampage you have to heavy first unless it's against groaners

spice veldt
#

same cleave count as the force sword, surprisingly enough

olive ember
#

Hoard clear on mk 1 is heavy -> heavy

leaden thunder
#

I mean on the chainsword

olive ember
#

Oh no clue then

leaden thunder
#

not the claw

olive ember
#

I’m p sure it’s heavy -> heavy

#

For hoard clear

cyan notch
#

its horde

leaden thunder
#

it is, though once you proc svage sweep you can light spam

#

I will continue to misspell it(maybe, probably not)

olive ember
#

It doesn’t rly have a good heavy for single target iirc

cyan notch
#

just rev

olive ember
#

Eh

#

Yes but then you have the TH problem where the big damage heavy is a side swipe that gets caught on random shit

stable silo
#

so surge is the kinda best staff for higher diff ? just so you can spam aoe stun

olive ember
#

All the staffs are good

#

I like it the best everyone else here uses other staffs >.>

cyan notch
#

not really the first heavy is pretty easy to hit

stable silo
#

iv been lovin the trauma staff its so fun blowing up groups

spice veldt
#

i wouldn't mind the heavy being a sweep

olive ember
#

Yeah just use whichever staff you like the best tbh

spice veldt
#

i personally prefer having the overheads on the lights

olive ember
#

Every staff psyker has is more than viable rn

stable silo
#

iv been running trauma dueling as fresh 30

unreal sedge
#

all staff are viable, just try them out a bit each

#

the void to shine needs transfer peril blessing, even the t2 is enough

#

can just spam forever in hordes (and even single targets if hitbox works)

#

and with quietitude you get toughness back from it too pretty sure (?)

#

what you guys like to run on purgatus (perk wise)?
+crit +flak?

stable silo
#

what about the mighty gun psyker with shredder pist 331132

unreal sedge
#

never tried guns on psyker

stable silo
#

they were talking about it on here i think last night or the day before seemed interesting the idea is to take wrack and the passive burst chance with a fast firing ranged for elites then just spam and hope it procs to spread aoe fire i guess then passivly build warp charges and ult into hordes

#

seemed an easier passive way to play unsure how good it is prob not as good as just palying a veteran lol

unreal sedge
#

ye

#

pretty much

leaden thunder
#

tbf

unreal sedge
#

also i tought every dot stack double the dot, but from 14 to 15 it's just 10% extra dmg

leaden thunder
#

it's hard to be as good as just playing veteran

unreal sedge
#

from 161 to 177 or so

steel flame
drifting arrow
#

what perks on combat axed against swarms?

fallow meadow
#

I do use devil crawl from time to time just to play brain dead. (Emperor gift me a nice one so better get use of it.)

long orchid
#

@drifting arrow unarmored/infested

fallow meadow
#

I guess infested+flak will be better as they tend to mix up?

stable silo
#

which one was the best dueling sword again?

fallow meadow
#

V for better blocking. Other than that is more or less a preference.

spice veldt
#

their lights have the same cleave count, so it comes down to how much you like the light anims or heavies (whether you want a stab/overhead/diagonals)

fallow meadow
#

VI have is slower because if the move set. Two heavy and block attack are stab, so it can be hard to use.
II give you the most slash move. My personal preference.
V have a smash light attack so it is a little better in dmg.

robust relic
#

brunt is my friend today

#

of course it got 15% tox flamers on upgrade which is terrible so, there is that

clear linden
#

any thoughts on the blood thirsty blessing?

#

is it worth getting?

wide tiger
#

yes because its so fucking hard to get

clear linden
#

but is it worth the pain?

robust relic
#

how long does it last?

wide tiger
#

5s of auto crit after special kill, yeah

safe crystal
#

5s on FS, pretty sure everything else only gets the buff for the next attack

wide tiger
#

yeah chain weapons get 1 crit after special kill

safe crystal
#

I have a feeling they'll ''fix'' it next patch for FS as well

wide tiger
#

oof

near wyvern
runic hornet
#

time to start buying greys and upgrading