You almost always get gold or purple from damnation
#psyker-class
steel flame
spice veldt
you'll need to earn blessings first from weapons
uneven drift
so how do i change blessing?
Sacrifice other weapon of the same type to get blessing, then rebless weapon you want. Remember that 2nd blessing will be locked. So you can change only 1.
drifting arrow
so i got to find a weapon with brutal mometum from somewhere and sacrifice it
so check shop all the time?
steel flame
Welcome to darktide
uneven drift
Shop gives you mostly t1-t2 blessings, so it's a bad source. Melk shop gives t3-t4 and higher difficulties have a chance to give you high tier blessings.
drifting arrow
melk shop is where?
uneven drift
Or you can craft weapons.
uneven drift
melk shop is where?
Dude that gives you contracts.
steel flame
Darktide: The shop checking simulator with a combat minigame bolted to the side
drifting arrow
did they say if they gone put other chaose factions in this game?
would be fun to play vs khorn
uneven drift
No, they haven't. It's long way till we get a new content.
steel flame
Next Week™
uneven drift
Only thing they said that they upgraded their engine and so on, so they can do thing they want in term of enemies and stuff. Because somehow VT2 was very limited in that regard.
steel flame
Only thing they said that they upgraded their engine and so on, so they can do t...
You know what a great time to upgrade your game engine is? WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THE GAME.
uneven drift
Well, i consider DT as a game. Not the best handled game, but it's a game.
steel flame
Not 4 months after release xP
shadow wigeon
He's level 17
I tried to see if there was any way to scam some benefit from Warp Flurry on Surge, but any combination is just busted. Sad.
sweet drift
You know what a great time to upgrade your game engine is? WHEN YOU ARE MAKING T...
What? Fatshark is already on an updated engine
drifting arrow
when do u unlock melk shop?
uneven drift
Not sure if anyone remember
lvl 11 or may be 18 idk.
cyan notch
11
drifting arrow
so i have already... must have suppresed it out of my mind
uneven drift
This guy.
spice veldt
uneven drift
Just go straight from starting spawn and he will be on the right at first crossroad.
lucid horizon
drifting arrow
jep never visited him XD
spice veldt
f
uneven drift
Remember that in order to get bonus for completing all contracts you need to check him and get into contracts page.
spice veldt
since the game will not begin tracking your contracts until you visit Melk at the start of every week
and you will not be rewarded for finishing contracts until you visit him again
steel flame
Get the better milk mod
ornate hamlet
since the game will not begin tracking your contracts until you visit Melk at th...
which is stupid af btw, it should be automatic
just one of the many oversights from fatshark devs that should have been thought of before implementation
it shouldn't even be an NPC that you talk to, it should be built into the UI menus
(like penance or whatnot)
drifting arrow
where do i find grimors?
steel flame
it shouldn't even be an NPC that you talk to, it should be built into the UI men...
But but but........ what about the player retention?
steel flame
where do i find grimors?
In half priced books
drifting arrow
mission says find 2 grimories
ornate hamlet
But but but........ what about the ***player retention***?
spice veldt
the milk contract says "Grimoires", but Scriptures will also work
They just haven't updated the name of the contract to reflect that
There are currently some scrip missions at lvl2 and lvl3 that you can do
drifting arrow
does contract guy shop reset every hour too?
coral cave
I think its every week
coral cave
I have almost 200hours with the game but that guy has been p much ignored so far
uneven drift
Well, since a tweaks to him it's better to do contracts(they are easier and gives more now) and check his shop to snipe t3-4 blessings.
steel flame
does contract guy shop reset every hour too?
Every day at like 6pm US central time
spice veldt
5pm for pacific daylight savings
fading heath
Is warp nexus IV (5%-20% crit based on peril) worth getting from melk for trauma staff?
uneven drift
Not really, but just for future if it would be changed.
fading heath
i see
uneven drift
t4 blessings even now pretty rare, so collect them not a bad idea.
fading heath
if i had the currency to spare perhaps, but i would rather be ready to buy the blessings that are actually good
uneven drift
Well, for trauma you want flurry mostly and something else, like rending shockwave maybe to help your melee and such.
spice veldt
or focused channeling for consistency
I personally use the Force Sword (whose special has >100% damage against all armour types) alongside trauma, so rending shockwave has no personal benefit to me; and my team can go kick dirt
uneven drift
Nexus may be good for meme soulblaze builds, but still not really best choice for trauma currently. Not that there are a lot of good blessings tho.
fading heath
yeah that is a shame that we get so little good choices
steel flame
Or choices period
drifting arrow
what are unyielding enemies?
spice veldt
Bulwarks, Reapers, Plague Ogryn, Daemonhost, Beast of Nurgle
drifting arrow
also when it says dmg(maniacs) what does that mean?
uneven drift
It's a damage vs maniac type of armor.
spice veldt
Enemies have an armour type on specific body parts
Unyielding and Maniac are armour types
drifting arrow
manic dmg on surge staff good or reroll?
steel flame
It's good
drifting arrow
or rather unyielding dmg?
drifting arrow
what does suppressing mean? just stun?
uneven drift
It's fine. Surge doesn't really benefit from vs damage types a lot. Need to check breakpoints. But you can't go wrong with flak/maniac.
drifting arrow
i got alot of questions XD
ornate hamlet
i got alot of questions XD
no
uneven drift
what does suppressing mean? just stun?
No, it's when shooters shoot you and you shoot them they will stop and get into cover, or melee enemies will stay in "terrified pose".
spice veldt
don't worry; the game explains very little to you so it's natural to have these qeustions
there is no in-game glossary for you to refer to anyways
uneven drift
Suppression against player is applied to guns, it's harder to aim and such.
steel egret
I think Ive read this before.
idle bay
Ang recently quite a number of live service games gone tits up
uneven drift
Wait till Pc games become full mobile gacha.
idle bay
Destiny 2 was my second work after work for quite while. Another good ls game
uneven drift
At least nft shit is not getting through yet.
olive ember
Destiny 2 was my second work after work for quite while. Another good ls game
My friend is a day 1 raider
I swear half the time he’s just complaining about destiny 2
He still loyally buys all the dlc’s grinds the grind, to get the funny garbage experience of day1 raiding
I think recently he was talking about how the raid was way too easy, with like a 44% clear rate day 2 lmao
drifting arrow
is it better to charge up surge or to spam surge? dmg wise
summer prairie
always charge when you have time for it
olive ember
So you’re will be spamming it a lot
summer prairie
but you e.g. only need to charge roughly halfway to kill regular scab shooters
(on damantion, I think you are playing on a lower difficulty)
olive ember
Someone said he was lvl 1 a few hours ago so prob yeah
spice veldt
Surge staff generates a lot of peril on cast (well, it's equally split between casting and charging), so it's one of those weapons where charging definitely gets you more bang for the buck per peril%
ornate hamlet
we're inching closer and closer to world war 3 btw
so the whole "war is over" thing doesn't really fly anymore
olive ember
I mean they are specifically referring to the funny corporate vs consumer or wte
olive ember
summer prairie
the reddit post didn't claim that it doesn't crit with flurry
olive ember
Idk the YouTuber was asking in comments so if anyone has vid evidence of it breaking
steel flame
Which is fair
olive ember
Iirc this guy is one of the YouTubers who pops up if you look for psyker builds on YT
steel flame
Id like to see it break too
summer prairie
Depends on what you mean by break, do you mean flurry not working?
steel flame
I don't remember. Don't use the surge staff so I don't keep up with the latest staff breaking bugs with it
olive ember
Flurry not working yea
summer prairie
I've clips here that here that demonstrate it https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/warp-flurry-on-the-surge-staff-still-does-not-work-as-intended/
olive ember
I didn’t watch vid btw what does he do in the vid that it seems to work there
summer prairie
he isn't even testing the flurry speed in the video
and he is doing mincharges so you can't even tell
olive ember
🤔
twilit flicker
I thought he was testing if the crits break, as that is what his attention was on.
steel egret
Ive had bug with surge in which character has a spasm of some sort
Havent used surge as much as before so cant give more elaborate description
summer prairie
The newer reddit post about flurry claimed that flurry breaks the crit rate on surge, perhaps by making it ignore the other blessing (nexus in this case) and possibly even the crit bar
This would be strange but I also seemed to be getting much lower crit rates with a flurry+nexus than a nexus surge
olive ember
Would prob need evidence etc. idk
steel egret
Would probably need concrete testing
summer prairie
Did some retests and the crit rate seems fine. At least not the base value or anything
twilit flicker
He's just some amateur testing things, he is right about one thing. There is confusion.
mental aspen
does anyone here know the psyker bleed build?
drifting arrow
i forgot, what is best on combat axe blessing wise?
olive ember
Brutal momentum and head taker
olive ember
does anyone here know the psyker bleed build?
Haven’t seen a psyker bleed build here before
spice veldt
Brutal Momentum being the important one
olive ember
Unless I missed it
mental aspen
Haven’t seen a psyker bleed build here before
where is dorfus when you need him
remote raptor
havent played since launch, are all psyker staffs pretty viable now
spice veldt
I know that crab talked about an autopistol power build with bleed
spice veldt
though that was a bit of a meme build
summer prairie
There was a "bleed build" during pre-release beta back when bleed stacked on itself and psyker ult would apply bleed if your weapon had it
spice veldt
ah that one
olive ember
How long ago was that
spice veldt
back in the days of haymaker killing your teammates
olive ember
Pre bleed fix obviously
spice veldt
Trauma staff is fine now since they fixed the peril generation
remote raptor
They’ve always been viable
i thought it was surge or void staff for high level stuff last time
olive ember
It changed weekly man
2 week ago it was surge + purge meta
A week ago it’s trauma + voidstrike
olive ember
Now it’s voidstrike + purge idek
spice veldt
purgatus is still a banger regardless
remote raptor
olive ember
It changes weekly based on what people think is cool
remote raptor
so basically just build what you like
remote raptor
spice veldt
as a trauma main, i will give the unbiased opinion that trauma is the best
olive ember
Tbh people have gotten bored and are running gun psykers now
Surge is the best and everyone else is just a fad
Besides maybe purge
remote raptor
Tbh people have gotten bored and are running gun psykers now
i saw lol machine pistol go brr
olive ember
But purge is discount flamer so
mental aspen
There was a "bleed build" during pre-release beta back when bleed stacked on its...
nah that's not it, it was pretty recent we talked about it, maybe i can find it in the discord logs
summer prairie
Can't imagine that being anything beyond a joke
mental aspen
he said it was decent on heresy iirc, but hadn't tested it at damnation yet
no idea, didn't bother at the time
bleed+soulblbaze something is what he mentions
still searching tho
summer prairie
You can stack those vs a boss, that's about it
steel egret
2 week ago it was surge + purge meta
Trauma & laspistol meta.
ornate hamlet
Ive had bug with surge in which character has a spasm of some sort
yeah i've seen the spasm you're talking about, it's one of the reasons i stopped using surge
it is bugged, but the bug doesn't happen all the time, when it does however, it's annoying af
ornate hamlet
But purge is discount flamer so
unlike flamer, purge has unlimited ammo
olive ember
Shhh
ornate hamlet
you only have peril as a limitation, and it's not even really much of a limitation because purge barely generates any peril
you can use it as often as you need to in almost every situation
i have crap for peril resist on mine, still have no peril issue
the issue with purg staff is this:
if you sprint immediately after shooting, your shots - while still being visually represented on screen, are actually disappearing as soon as you hold shift to run
so they pass right through enemies and do nothing (even tho visually it's still flying out from where you shot)
if you slide, same issue
(you can animation cancel your purge attack, causing it to make the projectile disappear, altho visually it still appears to be there, it's gone)
there are a multitude of issues with this game - many of which revolve around animation cancelling.
it's all unintended, sometimes animation cancelling fucks over your attacks, while other times people are macroing animation cancelling in to be able to skip recovery time of attacks allowing them to swing faster than they should be able to
bottom line: fatshark needs better coders to work on the game
on a different note, they could use better game designers on their team as well, with more experience in gaming and able to design a better endgame loop / loot grind system for us
ornate hamlet
this game is fun because it's a re-loaded re-mastered re-skinned heavily modded version of vermintide.
they spent years working on the gameplay, polishing and trying to make things more fun and engaging.
ultimately, darktide is a reflection of the experience they earned working on other games, it has fun gameplay, but it's still a buggy / unstable shitshow with poor endgame loop designs.
poor client stability, poor network stability, poorly optimized, feels laggy often when it shouldn't..
the gameplay is fun, but the implementation as a whole is poor.
i mean, when you join a match mid match you load in UNDER the stairs and shit? i mean this is amateur stuff lol
that's indie game dev mistake type shit
they're either being extremely lazy, or they don't have enough experienced coders working on the game
while they've been making tweaks for "balance" instead of going hard and actually fixing their game and adding the things they promised, they've gone from 42k active players to 8.5k active players
while it's normal for a game to quickly drop the bloat from new game launch, it usually stabilizes after the 1st or 2nd month.
this game lost players rapidly for 3 months, and seems to have roughly 8.5k loyal playerbase
in comparison to Outriders, darktide is doing better.
outriders went from 46k to 3k in the amount of time darktide went from 42k to 8.5k
and outriders never really had more than 600-1k loyal players.
darktide seems to have 8.5k loyal
outriders had an arguably better gear system and feat system than darktide too, but gameplay just wasn't as good.
viral solstice
theyre wildly different
ornate hamlet
they're both in the same category honestly
viral solstice
outriders for most ppl is at most a co-op thing
had an actual campaign
darktide is an online experientz man
its just fluffed
but it ok in like
12 months they drop DARKTIDE: THE NEW JIGGLY PUSMAN EXPANSION
and youtubers do "IS DARKTIDE GOOD NOW THEY ADDED JIGGLY PUSMAN?" videos
and then they come back
its all planned out
upbeat schooner
its all planned out
Alex Jones vibes
ornate hamlet
the gameplay in darktide is a lot of fun, it's very engaging, fast paced, and there's enough build diversity to keep people entertained.
but it could certainly use more build diversity, we need those subclasses.
and they need to work on gear / itemization systems a lot more
viral solstice
yee but i mean they obviously know that
mellow dock
this is available at melks, buy or not?
viral solstice
like if u listen to what they said about development
they straight up junked their entire gear system like 4 months before release
like they know they launched with something barebones and scraped together
ornate hamlet
this is available at melks, buy or not?
it's actually pretty good
it is lacking a 4 diamond perk, and the blessing sucks, but it can still be good if you put a good tier 4 blessing on it and re-work one of the perks
if you really want to use trauma, i'd say grab it
spice veldt
focused channeling is good on the trauma as an anti-shooter staff
mellow dock
ty!
spice veldt
and prevents you from losing your warp flurry stacks just cuz you got shot once
I think a trauma tends to shine with both +Flak and +Unarmoured
and I'm pretty picky about the charge rate and blast radius stats
drifting arrow
how do i screen shot weapons on windows?
spice veldt
winkey + shift + s
ornate hamlet
how do i screen shot weapons on windows?
windows snipping tool
viral solstice
i strongly suspect that darktide needs a significant "story" / fluff content addition to revitalise player numbers, even if the actual systems are a problem rn
because most players love that shit
finally i get to meet the REAL jiggly pusman
drifting arrow
which one of those should i use?
tropic pollen
Never you mind. It’s not good to be asking questions like that.
ornate hamlet
which one of those should i use?
show us the stats on the MK V combat axe plz
viral solstice
it really is "do u like the chainsword activate or not"
ornate hamlet
show me the MK V combat axe i'll tell you if it's shit or not
long wharf
outriders had an arguably better gear system and feat system than darktide too, ...
the biggest issue with Outriders on release was the absolutely stale end-game
drifting arrow
long wharf
and the utter lack of rewards for playing
ornate hamlet
that's not a great axe
55% on cleave is good but it has low values on important stats
long wharf
use it until you get a better one, which I'd expect to be Soon(tm)
ornate hamlet
i'd use the chainsword instead, till you get a better axe
drifting arrow
i never used chainsword so i am gone test it
ornate hamlet
you'll still do ok with that axe, it's still ok for horde, but you'll want a better one for sure
olive ember
I think darktide gameplay is just a lot more engaging than outriders tbh
spice veldt
chainsword has pretty good heavies and it looks like you have the savage sweep blessing on it
olive ember
I played the demo and like yeah
ornate hamlet
I think darktide gameplay is just a lot more engaging than outriders tbh
it most certainly is
outriders gameplay was just tracking heads for headshot damage - on nearly every build
olive ember
It was just running the same mission over and over again for the funny legendary drop
Literally Clockwork
I think the biggest bruh moment was that technomancer was strongest not for their support abilities but because they could enhance their bullets the best
drifting arrow
i am oneshoting normal dudes thats so awesome
olive ember
Atleast this was last I checked idk if any balance changes were applied
Yeah axes do that
ornate hamlet
i think he's using chainsword lol
lethal folio
Melee makes it much more interesting.
long wharf
I think darktide gameplay is just a lot more engaging than outriders tbh
oh definitely, though the power combos were fun to use in Outriders
I easily put a couple hundred hours into Outriders
Outriders didn't have the issue with shit not working like Darktide does
ornate hamlet
long wharf
Outriders blatantly disrespected the player's time, though
ornate hamlet
leaden thunder
outriders made me sad
ornate hamlet
my darktide hours are low because i have no reason to play
leaden thunder
had a lot of potential
ornate hamlet
😦
leaden thunder
but the balance for the higher end stuff (at least when I was playing)
was absolute trash
long wharf
ouch... not sure if this is good or bad
ornate hamlet
but the balance for the higher end stuff (at least when I was playing)
yep, they had even worse balance issues than darktide
ornate hamlet
ouch... not sure if this is good or bad
lol you must have loved it
olive ember
I put like a hundred hours in outriders… demo
ornate hamlet
i liked it, but not enough for over 160 hours lol
long wharf
I mean, I really enjoyed it, but I also had friends that played it
leaden thunder
like the gun balance
was just so shit
like if you didn't have a gun build you had to use the wierd proc things
olive ember
Idk a lot of games recently have been letdowns tbh
leaden thunder
to do any reasonable amount of damage with the guns
olive ember
GTFO had good concept but wow it’s jank as all hell
ornate hamlet
GTFO had good concept but wow it’s jank as all hell
i knew that game was gonna be trash, i never even bought it
leaden thunder
outriders, godfall
olive ember
Lmao I tried the alpha test and then the beta test
leaden thunder
those 2 I got burned by
olive ember
Saw the $60 price tag saw the gameplay and laughed
olive ember
Thankfully I was never interested in BF but yeah 2042 is def an oof moment
leaden thunder
but like
ornate hamlet
olive ember
I mained technomancer cuz I’m a support main
leaden thunder
it was easily the worse class for the most part
and of course the gun balance was still shit
and the devastaror(?)'s
gun build was also shit
olive ember
But turns out “support” is a lie and technomancer was one of the meta picks or wte
leaden thunder
yeah techno was op as fuck iirc
olive ember
Cuz funny empower bullets which was better than the assassin classes empower
ornate hamlet
i played techno as well btw, in beta and release
leaden thunder
I literally have 0 idea how the balance is now
olive ember
Same
leaden thunder
hopefully it's better
ornate hamlet
gun build, as long as you kill something your magazine is refilled.
leaden thunder
I might pick up the dlc if it's on a massive sale
olive ember
Was tempted to buy it but friends didn’t wanna play so yeah
I guess we dodged a bullet but tbh i think I’d have some fun with it
olive ember
Oh yeah
viral solstice
i mean outriders was designed as a singleplayer game
olive ember
And I guess darkswarm and remnant 2 whenever those pop out
viral solstice
they literally said
"This is not a live service game. we will release it, one expansion, maybe some bugfixes"
thats it
leaden thunder
ye
leaden thunder
that's the only reason I might still pick up the dlc
long wharf
I literally have 0 idea how the balance is now
why not ask any of the 60 people still playing Outriders?
ornate hamlet
outrider devs used to watch their discord and nerf every build people recommended to others on their discord
no bs
that was their version of "balancing"
whatever people liked, they nerfed
at least fatshark ignores us
drifting arrow
one the plague oger thing how do i do most dmg? brain bust surge staff main or secondary attack?
ornate hamlet
by the way
drifting arrow
or just go melee?
spice veldt
BB deals more damage than the Surge staff; Plague Ogryns are Unyielding
spice veldt
I'm not sure if your melee is good enough at lower levels to out-compete BB
well, I guess you don't have access to a particular lvl30 feat so your melee is probably better
blissful cedar
I just started psyker, is this crit dsword good?
summer prairie
yes
spice veldt
if you like duelling sowowaoaindrds, then sure
Combat Axes deal something along the lines of 200% damage against Unyielding on their heavies, so they're certainly something to be used against Plague Ogryns
olive ember
Yes a week ago
uneven drift
Yes.
ornate hamlet
lol why
olive ember
It never did broken damage apparently
ornate hamlet
LOL yes it does tho
olive ember
The lmb is in line with the other axes
ornate hamlet
i can kill mutants with 1 light attack wtf
spice veldt
the heavies are the ones that did lower damage to unyielding for some reason
olive ember
It’s the heavy that was under performing apparently
But lmb is in line with other axes so
uneven drift
Yeah, instead of fixing heavies they fucked lights.
olive ember
They should’ve buffed it instead of nerf
uneven drift
Both of them need tweaks tho.
ember hornet
why do you need lights that do a million damage to maniacs
spice veldt
otherwise, CAxes deal 100% damage against maniac on lights
ornate hamlet
guess it's back to 1 shotting mutants with light attacks then
olive ember
Not too familiar tho tbh I mainly use FS
ornate hamlet
i should get on and play some
dude i wish the game had floating damage numbers in missions
so i could screenshot how much damage i do with light attack on mutants in missions
spice veldt
healthbar mod
ornate hamlet
it's clearly broken, i dunno why they think it isn't
ornate hamlet
the sound effect doesn't even sound right, it's like it's getting hit more than once by 1 light attack because it's charging
if you hit a mutant when it's charging it connects more than once i think
it multihits them
they just don't know that yet i think
i can tell because the sound effect is fucked up
it sounds way louder than normal
drifting arrow
the chainsaw makes me feel like johnrick not gone lie
ornate hamlet
which indicates to me that it is multihitting and each itteration of the sound effect happening at the same time makes it sound louder
drifting arrow
i am one taping everything
ornate hamlet
i am one taping everything
when you get an axe with near-perfect rolls, they do that too, but they also drop specials and elites like nothing else
and bosses
drifting arrow
but the chainsaw is attacking fairly fast for the dmg it does
ornate hamlet
on armored enemies they have a damage multiplier, and axes can have some very strong blessings that increase power by a ton
drifting arrow
did not expect that
ornate hamlet
but hey, if you love chainsaw, stick with it
make the best of it
but still try other stuff for comparison sometimes
leaden thunder
also the csword may get a little buff to it's blessings
ornate hamlet
inspect your chainsword then hit tab to look at damage versus certain types of armor so you know what it's strength and weaknesses are
leaden thunder
since it got left behind in the rampage buffs
wide tiger
no comm link or anything huh
leaden thunder
not yet
wide tiger
meh
back to rolling more forceswords
i started keeping them in my inventory
getting pretty cluttered
silk ridge
What are the recommended feats when using a voidstrike staff?
olive ember
Meta or funny
wide tiger
So, every perk in my melk shop right now is tier 2 except 1
olive ember
Meta is warp flurry+ peril transfer
Funny is warp nexus + blazing spirit/surge
Wait
Feats
Eh
silk ridge
Sorry I meant what talents xD
olive ember
There’s a bunch prob ask someone who actually uses staff
This is what I had a while back but
It will work but there’s prob better builds out there nowadays
leaden thunder
off the top of my head
silk ridge
I was thinking something similar to that build, i'll look/ask around 😄
leaden thunder
the main things that change for void
is you want the damage increase to force weapons talanet
and in t1 you can run either quitude or the force weapon kills restor toughness
normal sequoia
Is Surge worth putting on Voidstrike? (instead of Barrage) Or should I stick with Warp Flurry + Transfer Peril instead?
normal sequoia
I have no idea what the meta is lol
drifting arrow
i have a question, i have sacrifist my staff for blessing but i still cant change the blessing on my other staff
leaden thunder
is it a different kind of staff
spice veldt
ah, you've been fatsharked
normal sequoia
but a warp nexus + surge is memes
as in funny memes or funnily terrible memes?
leaden thunder
funny
spice veldt
blessings between different staffs (Purg, Surge, Voidstrike, Trauma) can not be transferred over from one another
leaden thunder
you have to jump through some hoops to make it that way tho
drifting arrow
...
drifting arrow
knietic shield or mind motion?
spice veldt
I personally say that mind in motion is not too useful; I run Kinetic Shield, but I think Kinetic Deflection is more broadly useful if you're starting out
olive ember
Kinetic deflection is the best trait
spice veldt
Kinetic Deflection offers that comfy option in being pretty safe in melee
olive ember
Kinetic shield if you want to have inferior trait
Mind in motion is funny
10/10 would recommend
shut ether
What are the recommended feats when using a voidstrike staff?
YOu want Unarmored/Flak. Transfer Peril is necessary. Lots will say Warp Flurry is also BIS slot I find that you can run Warp Nexus to great effect as well.
I always use the reduced Toughness on Ranged. Idk I never got attached to kinetic deflection because I like to keep my peril for BB and staff usage.
austere estuary
hot damn
shame about the cleave but
never seen all t4s on an item
at least without refine/rebless
austere estuary
trauma is p funny if combined with that other impact one I forget the name of
olive ember
Hammer blow
austere estuary
claw knocking crushers on their ass with lights
slapping maulers and the like around 
olive ember
Vicious strike
Who knows only like 2 of the who knows how many blessings on the claw actually affect damage rip
spice veldt
i think rampage is the only damage blessing for devil claws unless you count in shred lmao
austere estuary
does it even have any power buffs at all?
viral solstice
the only damage blessings on claw are rampage, shred, skullcrusher
shut ether
Hey T4s are T4's slap that in the bank
austere estuary
mind you
viral solstice
thats it
spice veldt
oh right skullcrusher
austere estuary
claw does well out of x hits things since it counts all hits in a cleave
austere estuary
I was able to have it activate all levels of shred in 1 swing iirc, before the shred crossover nerf
viral solstice
yes but shred is a very bad damage buff
because crit is finesse damage
adn finesse damage scales down across multiple targets
austere estuary
point is it cleaves enough to activate enough hits for buffs was my point
for any of those
shut ether
Alright time to see what guns are in my Psyker shop today
viral solstice
i am just a disgruntled claw user
austere estuary
ye np
shut ether
austere estuary
all claw users should be disgruntled
viral solstice
because people who dont know how it woirks think u can full parry ragers easily
austere estuary
before that crossover and peril nerf claw actually had some function since you could do a combo of getting mobs off you, activating a bunch of buffs, clearing peril all in one go, then get back to your now buffed staff
now it's like
well
austere estuary
that the devs think the parry is good
wait what
viral solstice
they read reddit and on the post about them recently
olive ember
Lmao what you mean
austere estuary
D:
viral solstice
lots of upvotes for comments about how u can make urself 100% safe vs ragers
viral solstice
olive ember
LMAO
austere estuary
oh no
olive ember
We saw the same post
viral solstice
u can do it if u know something
olive ember
Holy shit
austere estuary
tbf most weapon specials are garbage
so the weird part is that they consider them at all
cyan notch
melee specials are pretty good
austere estuary
duelling one lost its mobility and I can
't see the point of it
FS/chainsword are useful
viral solstice
weapon specials are funny
spice veldt
MKV if you want to tank daemonhosts I guess because the block cost scales with the defense stat
viral solstice
because u know what most weapon specials do
answer
they stun ragers
out of their melee combo
austere estuary
staff poke and swing
viral solstice
thats like 50% of all melee weapon specials
austere estuary
does our staff swing melee stun them? I kinda want to use that for style points now if it does
spice veldt
though some weapons straight up don't need the special anyways for ragers like the axes
no it doesn't
you wish it did
austere estuary
aw man
spice veldt
I wish it did
shut ether
I'm pretty sure staff doesn't have nearly enough stagger to do that?
spice veldt
I also think that it can't stagger maulers out of their attacks?
austere estuary
staff melee really feels like pure leftover from a time when pistol + staff was a thing
spice veldt
the staff LMB has more god damn stagger
cyan notch
its just a standard bash/melee for a ranged weapon
austere estuary
like probably staff + laspistol and staff didn't have LMB I guess
cyan notch
which are all garbage
shut ether
Yeah I wish they would give staffs an actual unique special
spice veldt
they could've made it not have the slowest fuckin startup anim of all time
shut ether
Although if I find a lone sniper it's fun to beat them with the staff
spice veldt
for the low low cost of two stamina bars and 10% peril
spice veldt
no
shut ether
It's free real estate!
spice veldt
is it bad
spice veldt
huh extant is the antonym of extinct
viral solstice
shut ether
Much like exteez
viral solstice
actually i bet most ppl couldnt tell u what the headhunter special was
WHILE USING A HEADHUNTER
spice veldt
Much like exteez
naughty
upbeat schooner
Much like exteez
exteez nuts
spice veldt
headhunters aren't real
shut ether
Lights out is clear indication that they had a weapon customization system at some point
viral solstice
i mean
they said they did
like just read dev interveiws
they legit talk about it 5 months before release
shut ether
It was probably immeasurably complex to implement
viral solstice
then they junked everything 4 months before release because it wasnt working
which is a good thing
but then they had to release
feral verge
You're assuming that I can even read
viral solstice
i cant read
i just guess what the words mean
and type stuff
i trained myself like a DNN
1 pizza when i say something vaguely context-appropriate
spice veldt
that's quite a strong reward
viral solstice
strong signal
spice veldt
and also a strong stomach
drifting arrow
so, i have tried everyhting to make push to talk voice chat work
anyone knows why its not working?
upbeat schooner
so, i have tried everyhting to make push to talk voice chat work
does it work in other applications?
shut ether
Is your mic set to your default communications device in Windows?
viral solstice
i think the big thing about where darktide is rn is that this is all minimum viable product and so questions of balance etc are all very secondary
which is why im looking forward to them adding the jiggly pusman expansion
long wharf
Imagine buying a MVP <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
imagine releasing a game you know is missing key systems and refusing to call it Early Access
drifting arrow
is there a score board?
someone said i have the highest defence score even tho i am the smallest person
long wharf
sure, FartShart would have been roasted for releasing into EA after two big delays and beta tests, but it would still have been better than what they did
and we'd all be sitting around, excited to see what they improved upon and added, telling each other "can you imagine the shitstorm that would have happened if they had called it a full release? lol"
obtuse moth
ye theres a mod @drifting arrow
viral solstice
the dialogue would be TOTALLY different
obtuse moth
you probably took the least damage/staggered the most enemies
long wharf
that's what I just said.
drifting arrow
i have surge staff so yeah
viral solstice
yes im literally agreeing
long wharf
okay
viral solstice
the no is with an implied imaginary interlocutor who thinks it was a bad idea
long wharf
you started with "no", so.
viral solstice
ornate hamlet
scoreboard can be cheesed very easily since it doesn't calculate damage the same way it does in meatgrinder
it counts "overkill" damage as damage unlike meatgrinder.
it's kinda bad to use the mod imo
leaden thunder
it shows both
ornate hamlet
what really matters is teamwork, coherency, coordination
leaden thunder
overkill and and real damage
long wharf
the scoreboard has utility
regardless of what you think of the social interaction impact
ornate hamlet
i think a lot of players who use it put to much stock into it
leaden thunder
100%
like
I have top d'ed with the claw sword
does that mean the claw sword is good
sharp ibex
I get my teamwork score as low as possible by picking up ammo I don't need
long wharf
I bet most players that use it are actually using it to compare their own performances
leaden thunder
fuck no
does that mean my team was bad?
I didnt; think so in game
I just like seeing the funny yellow numbers
ornate hamlet
what matters is your ability to work well with your team,
your ability to lead or follow when each is needed,
your ability to support - which is really not going to be reflected accurately in a scoreboard - they're easy to cheese.
when you stagger an enemy that was about to hit a teammate for example, this isn't shown in a scoreboard
team coordination is everything
personal skill matters, but only to an extent, can't always carry with skill alone
cold geode
you gotta play darktide like these guys https://old.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/11ss2ls/amazing/
sharp ibex
What matters is having the lowest team scores
viral solstice
I have top d'ed with the claw sword
i top d with everything, because i ensure my team all die
its not enough i win
u must also lose
wide tiger
Scoreboard is the size of my penis and therefore all important
ornate hamlet
you gotta play darktide like these guys https://old.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/com...
really though, as someone who's played a lot of mmorpg's with meters reflecting performance,
those meters don't usually show who's fucking the team over by failing a mechanic that causes a cascade failure to the raid.
there's a lot more involved than just scoreboard
wide tiger
To an extent
long wharf
and yet, just the same, having an objectively measured performance metric enables you to directly compare personal performance and behavior
wide tiger
when you have 3 people that do 300-400k and one person who does 100k
and you find out they're a shield ogryn
something starts to paint a picture
ornate hamlet
in darktide, it's safe to say, whoever is getting downed when they shouldn't be is the weak link,
but then again, maybe they were only downed because some asshole shot a barrel and sent them flying off a ledge lol
that won't be reflected in scoreboard either
it'll just look like the guy that got flung was to blame
ornate hamlet
i'm just sayin, you're better off not taking too much stock into scoreboard
it's really easy to cheese anyway
wide tiger
it also paints a black and white picture of whos fucking looting
cold geode
i have it, i don't really take any stock in it i just like the numbars
wide tiger
which btw, is a pretty important metric, lazy people
ornate hamlet
it also paints a black and white picture of whos fucking looting
you can see that now anyway, with the new popup notifications
wide tiger
yeah but not the totals
ornate hamlet
shrug don't really need em
wide tiger
memory is short
cold geode
you dont get a total per person but you can see the total on the tab screen
ornate hamlet
and even then, the orgyn and zealot are faster at getting around than us psykers, they're naturally going to pickup more shit unless they suck
cold geode
w/o the scoreboard
i kinda wish they would put in a positive scoreboard similar to the way overwatch did it in OW1
hard oyster
Anyone know if superiority blessing works when the fs is in your pocket?
leaden thunder
shouldn't
spice veldt
nah; it shouldn't at least
cross-weapon blessing interactions were patched out a while ago
besides the intentional ones (like particular blessings on the Revolver and Ogryn Kickback) or an unintentional one (All or Nothing), blessings should not have any effect if the weapon is not equipped
that is to say, superiority is doodoo
long wharf
honestly, looting should be removed from the game entirely
just give us mat rewards at the end of the mission based on base for the mission, how many secondary objectives completed, and any min-bosses killed
spice veldt
I like looting since it gives a reason for me to be away from my team
long wharf
but... the team should be sticking together
long wharf
I think you meant birds aren't real
wide tiger
honestly, looting should be removed from the game entirely
yes please
wide tiger
Its such a pain in the ass to loot and have to solo
long wharf
makes a mental note to never team up with Arcotash
spice veldt
:D
jump-sliding also probably keeps you at running speed
well sliding already probably does that
I do have periods where I actually am a team player
but there aren't any solo privates so I can't go into my own game to play my own way if I'm in that mood
drifting arrow
kinetic flayer sounds kinda op or not?
long wharf
definitely not
drifting arrow
with surge? surge hits a lot so 10 % chance should hit quite often or not?
near wyvern
kinetic flayer sounds kinda op or not?
10% chance to trigget BB with 15dec internal cooldon? Not OP. It's mostly useful with gun psyker builds for dealing with those lone specialists and for staff builds it's only really used to upkeep stacks if not going warp battery.
near wyvern
with surge? surge hits a lot so 10 % chance should hit quite often or not?
My friend. Purge hits every 0.35 seconds on all targets it can reach.
spice veldt
BB every 15 seconds is not particularly impressive DPS, though it's nice to have it one-shot elites and whatnot
velvet crescent
am i correct in assuming that trauma staff is less damage and more for disrutpion
...oh
shit
my bad
spice veldt
yup; none of our current staffs are DPS
velvet crescent
oh sweet, works for me
leaden thunder
I mean it will 1 shot poxies with like 2 warp charges
and it does like full damage to everything else
spice veldt
I personally consider it as Psyker's best anti-shooter staff
though it certainly depends on the map layout and section
near wyvern
I personally consider it as Psyker's best anti-shooter staff
No where near. Should I post the full auto void again?
spice veldt
voidstrike isn't real
near wyvern
Trauma is best anti everything but not best anti ranged
Purge is best anti melee and surge is best anti special/elite
long wharf
imagine calling a staff with built-in range limits "best anti ranged"
spice veldt
it still interrupts shooters in its outer radius if sufficiently charged and has a decent amount of knockback
it's good for initiating engagements with shooter patrols that are still clumped up, though it performs much worse after that
long wharf
one of the big problems with trauma is the amount of knockback
spice veldt
it doesn't knock enemies that aren't groaners/poxwalkers as long as you kill them in the epicentre
with +unarmoured, you'll certainly kill dreg bruisers as long as you charge it enough, and you'll usually want to knock elites down anyways
the outer radius will only stagger/interrupt enemies that aren't groaners/poxwalkers
long wharf
aaaaand another lackluster community update
long wharf
our "march content" is a thunderhammer that doesn't pop on the first target and another force sword (1h) that stabs more
spice veldt
it's not a 2h force sword
also why is it even more single-target
what the fuck mate
long wharf
like, who the hell asked for a fsword to stab more?
it's like the devs don't play their own game
I don't think any dev mains psyker, at the very least
spice veldt
i swear to god if those stabs have less than 2 cleave
shut ether
COMM LINK NOBODY PANIC
olive ember
Oh it’s out
leaden thunder
I will
long wharf
that's major copium right there
olive ember
I want my force greatsword
limpid lily
let's gooo
limpid lily
if it's 2h I bet it's gonna be for zealot more like
olive ember
We get a force sword
spice veldt
also they already have the thunderhammer and eviscerator; god damned bastards
olive ember
But pokey
leaden thunder
spice veldt
zealots and their burly arms
leaden thunder
cope my ass
spice veldt
3 new weapons
long wharf
yep, 3
leaden thunder
long wharf
or
spice veldt
better be a force weapon
long wharf
each class is getting 1
rare furnace
I didn’t understand is that the two handed force sword
rare furnace
Or different version of the small
spice veldt
I assume that maybe they'll deliver a new revolver
long wharf
Vet will get a new version of power sword, with increased number of charged swings by default and improved cleave
olive ember
I hope not lmao
velvet crescent
id love to see vet get a hellgun, ogryn i have no idea
spice veldt
a new variant of the basic weapons seems likely to me
long wharf
Zealot will get a new flamer version, with even more damage per burn stack, base damage, and no delay for secondary fire
olive ember
Idk all the zealots have been complaining about how overpowered the flamer was
limpid lily
tho like I wonder if she meant other things other than just 2 weapons, or 2+ weapons
olive ember
Like I wish I had something overpowered to complain about
limpid lily
liek fixes, buffs, changes etc...
limpid lily
Like I wish I had something overpowered to complain about
tbf isnt the fire staff basically the flamer, albeit slightly less dmg but that's not even that big of a difference xD
olive ember
Depends on who you ask
spice veldt
the range is a big differentiator
olive ember
Some people think purge is just mid flamer
hard oyster
Give me my 2h FS that's got the rmb of the mk IX heavy swd n a cleave power active
olive ember
Other people think it’s better
rare furnace
tbf isnt the fire staff basically the flamer, albeit slightly less dmg but that'...
My fire is better than the machine crit all time and stack up
olive ember
Rly depends on who you ask tbh
limpid lily
hmhm
spice veldt
i see purgatus as basically a replacement for your melee weapon
the power sword but it takes up a ranged slot
gilded viper
getting another L 😦
near wyvern
Was just about to post
gilded viper
i hate thrust attaack pattern with the first force sword
near wyvern
All we wanted is more cleave
long wharf
I already dislike the fsword's moveset
rare furnace
ITS TWO HANDED COMPARE THE FLOOR TO THE HAMMERS ITS SAME SIZE LETS GOOOOO
long wharf
the new fsword sounds like a big "nope" to me
rare furnace
IM GONNA BB MY BRAIN
hard oyster
If psyker got mk IX cleave I'd stop running purge
near wyvern
The FS we have is already good vs single targets
spice veldt
if the special is the same, I'm going to cry
the special better fucking nuke enemies
rare furnace
Special same but deletes all armor?
spice veldt
100% carapace damage dream
rare furnace
I mean it having cleave and big dmg is stil awsome
wide tiger
emperor just gave me a 520 laspistol
spice veldt
well actually the stabs of current melee weapons are actually ass against carapace aren't they
wide tiger
what could it be what could it be
long wharf
how about an AoE blast special on the fsword?
gilded viper
so two single target FS 
rare furnace
I believe the preachers hammer got the same special as vet power sword because they talked about cleave special
gilded viper
i hate it here
rare furnace
We might become more elite hunters
long wharf
invert the behavior - single target swings, AoE special
wide tiger
cold geode
why game geif vraks? why?
wide tiger
why couldnt you give me a force sword emperor
cold geode
all the times its vraks
rare furnace
Finally I can say I AM A WARRIOR like in cinematic
gilded viper
funny that zealot get 2 weapons but vet get 1 KEKW
long wharf
that cutscene was so cringey
gilded viper
or getting any new range weapon in general
wide tiger
oh a new force sword
lol
thrusting force sword
thats what we needed
more single target force sword
let me thrust into all the enmies
mmmmm
leaden thunder
aye yo
rare furnace
getting another L 😦
Wait it says more of thrust ? But in old old trailers it had reverse eviserstor patern
leaden thunder
rare furnace
So idk
long wharf
Vets are going to get a new lasgun with the power of the MG12 and the firerate of the recon VId
gilded viper
Wait it says more of thrust ? But in old old trailers it had reverse eviserstor ...
wait really which trailer
i want to see
rare furnace
It is like 1,5 half second
wide tiger
at the very least a new variant of force sword means more force swords in melks so a chance at bloodthirsty goes up
hard oyster
Could have gotten a staff that was mostly defensive, like while channeled it makes a defensive dome going out like 10meters, and soulfires enemies in it while blocking ranged shots
rare furnace
Let’s say evis goes from right to left first heavy
It looked like left to write
On that
But it might be different
Right*
long wharf
at the very least a new variant of force sword means more force swords in melks ...
watch the new fsword's version of bloodthirsty be the same as the chainsword
spice veldt
if we get another CC staff, I will shit my pants
wide tiger
Well as long as I can unlock the blessing on the regular force sword through it idgaf
cold geode
why give the zealot a new hammer that just does what the fucking first one should have done
long wharf
if we get another CC staff, I will shit my pants
no you won't
clear heath
wait is this going to be a new force sword with worse cleave?
spice veldt
no you won't
fine; I'll shit in somebody else's pants
wide tiger
wait is this going to be a new force sword with worse cleave?
YOU BET
long wharf
fine; I'll shit in somebody else's pants
sharing is caring.
clear heath
well
Maybe it'll be nice for a purge staff build. They probably don't need cleave as much anyways
wide tiger
Man i gotta be honest, i feel like an intern could be putting out the content they are, but hey
wide tiger
I guess the 2 new weapons at least have some modeling and animations
long wharf
sometimes?
clear heath
ok a lot of the time
gilded viper
this is named Deimon mk2 blaze force sword
we have ** Obscurus Mk II Blaze Force Sword**
wide tiger
Single target melee, thats what we need
long wharf
this is named Deimon mk2 blaze force sword
we have ** Obscurus Mk II Blaze Force...
classic FartShart name collision
wide tiger
i wonder if the special activation will be identical or not
hard oyster
What if it has better blocking?
clear heath
this is named Deimon mk2 blaze force sword
we have ** Obscurus Mk II Blaze Force...
The different combat axes do share blessings despite having different brand names tho
gilded viper
that why i fear blessing won't carry over from the FS
gilded viper
The different combat axes do share blessings despite having different brand name...
ooooooh
wide tiger
It almost certainly will
clear heath
like antax and rashad share blessings i'm pretty sure
wide tiger
they do
gilded viper
i hope that the case 
long wharf
FartShart should make all the staves share blessings
gilded viper
having the same Mk number scaring me a bit but hopefully im just tripping
cold geode
i assume the worst
clear heath
anyways if it does do more single target damage, i'll probably build one for a purg build
and keep my current one for the other staves
wide tiger
so wait, is this the big march update?
gilded viper
the deflector 3 i just pick up going to the trash 
gilded viper
im guessing next week it techinally near the end of march at that point
clear heath
I mean i feel like this new sword is going to be generally worse anyways
rare furnace
Maybe the skins will come soon on shop?
long wharf
new paid cosmetics for the new weapons
wide tiger
great
long wharf
no free recolors
rare furnace
Don’t the special class weapons get a second skin for free?
clear heath
Actually you know what would make the new fs pretty cool and actually noticebly better for single target?
If the special locked you in for less time
rare furnace
The warp sword looked a bit different than the small
clear heath
so i could just one shot mutants quickly instead of being stuck for 3 seconds
rare furnace
Or will it be the red thing
long wharf
I'm hoping the special is some kind of AoE with a very short animation
wide tiger
where's my god damn heavy force sword
rare furnace
If special was a cone blast of soul blaze like ultimate but smaller would be so fun
clear heath
i assume the heavies will be stabs cause they said it was thrusting focused
viral solstice
they should make it shoot a laser
wide tiger
I assume its just gonna have worse cleave than our current FS
rare furnace
Worse cleave but pen?
wide tiger
I dont really go into melee to 1v1
near wyvern
I'm hoping the special is some kind of AoE with a very short animation
I would bet it has the exact same special. Look at our staves. I have no reason to hope they will handle this differently.
rare furnace
Our current force sword has cleave? But hits one target 😂
clear heath
I dont really go into melee to 1v1
maybe you would if you had this sword
long wharf
I would bet it has the exact same special. Look at our staves. I have no reason ...
I know, I expect it to be a copy+paste
gilded viper
i just hope if this going to be their high damage trust the shit better kill as good as axe can, cause the current FS feel like so to use since u swing it so weirdly
lament sonnet
I'm just happy to get new toys to play with
near wyvern
i just hope if this going to be their *high damage trust* the shit better kill a...
Yay you can stab and kill one mob while the other 10 get free hits on you because no cleave.
supple skiff
https://prnt.sc/7hDkAvZ51V2w hadron bout to pull the rug out from under me
wide tiger
How long would it take one intern to fix warp nexus?
lament sonnet
I mean given the glacial development pace, they have to do both
long wharf
I definitely think blessings need fixing before we get more shit content nobody asked for
rare furnace
I'd give up the new toys for fixes to blessings
NOOO
lament sonnet
Whether they succeed at both remains to be seen
near wyvern
https://prnt.sc/7hDkAvZ51V2w hadron bout to pull the rug out from under me
Those perks may seem good until you realize how the damage is calculated.
lament sonnet
But no, I wouldn't trade anything for anything at this point.
rare furnace
I AINT GETTING the same max mobility 380 weapon but no dmg😂
lament sonnet
They're giving it all to us eventually, or else
supple skiff
Those perks may seem good until you realize how the damage is calculated.
will reroll ranged crit to flak, idk if theres something far better than ranged weakspot
spice veldt
here's an explanation as to why +weakspot and +crit dmg is bad
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/counterfire-is-still-not-applying-the-correct-amount-of-weakspot-damage/75377/4
particularly on the voidstrike with a very mediocre base increase in weakspot damage
well, that forum post is specifically about +weakspot dmg, but the same idea applies to +crit dmg
supple skiff
well fuck
spice veldt
you've been fatsharked
gilded viper
@spice veldt i wish i could had continue my life in ignorance
