#psyker-class

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shut ether
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80 max

near wyvern
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Well yes and no but that would be in line with crucian roulette. We should just get more cirt chance per stack to compensate than what we now have.

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And given how you can also pump peril up and down where as Crucian Roulette you have to reload the whole gun

shut ether
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I just want to be able to run a Nexus/Surge Voidstaff for fun but you need transfer peril

near wyvern
shut ether
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Yeah but I don't plan on using macros.

near wyvern
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The whole point of combining nexus and warp Unleashed is to get great benefits but put yourself to constant danger in casd you mess up

wide tiger
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They should just make it like warp unleashed

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or just peril/4

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at max blessing tier

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crucian nets you so many more crits than warp nexus

shut ether
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I just feel like it's redundant when if you just charge your staff things die to headshot anyway

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Pointless to have a chance at applying a weak amount of soulblaze

wide tiger
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not redundant.

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moar double blob

shut ether
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I guess I just prefer sending out penetrating shots 🤷‍♂️

wide tiger
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uhh

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You can do that with surge?

viral solstice
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MORE BLOB

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:grumgpe

shut ether
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Yes but I'm talking about Pyrex's example

viral solstice
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WHRE MY BLOB

wide tiger
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But yeah, you can also just charge as per usual for hordes

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I really like his macro to replace lmb tho

shut ether
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I'm sure but I just don't prefer to use the voidstaff in that way. I like shooting an absolute laser :)

blissful dirge
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just gimme Comet Azur in Darktide

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totally balanced.

wide tiger
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Im so ready:

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they balance based on how the weapon looks so lets hope any new weapons we get look like they do damage

blissful dirge
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why are we talking about guns on psyker tho?

wide tiger
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because its 80% of our arsenal

twilit flicker
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Woe is us

shut ether
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Sadly

blissful dirge
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and? most of our feats want peril or void attacks or something.

wide tiger
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I hope the next force staff has a buncha spikes and shit on it

shut ether
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I'll have great blessings if I ever decide to roll a Zealot/Vet haha

wide tiger
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I think 2

blissful dirge
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right but a majority care about peril

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how are you generating peril with a gun?

wide tiger
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lol

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im gonna give it a second

wide tiger
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Gun psykers can still use brainburst, and should

blissful dirge
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cool. but all psykers have brain burst

wide tiger
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and?

blissful dirge
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so why gun? it generates in larger chunks

wide tiger
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Wat

blissful dirge
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brainburst* generates

twilit flicker
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All psykers also have trigger fingers

blissful dirge
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appologies. brain faster than fingers

viral solstice
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whats wrong with being a psychic swordsman with a revolver

blissful dirge
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because it feels like shitty Veteran

viral solstice
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veteran cant set ppl on fire with their mind

blissful dirge
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the fuck is the point of picking the magical space wizard

viral solstice
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qed

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it does not

blissful dirge
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without my magical space staff?

twilit flicker
viral solstice
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but u still have magic sword, magic brain explosion, blue fire, and psychic suicide

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psychic suicide most important feature

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that i like to maximise

blissful dirge
wide tiger
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Having your entire peril bank be dedicated to just brainburst is actually an argument for gun psyker, not against. When you have a staff and BB you have 2 peril drains fighting for the same pool

blissful dirge
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I'd count that as a very good thing

wide tiger
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gun psyker gets to utilize BB more

twilit flicker
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Nothing like a little mortality to mix it up a bit hehehe

near wyvern
wide tiger
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Gets to

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I wouldnt say gun psyker HAS to use BB more than any staff user

vestal rose
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revolver + kinetic flayer gives me dopamine
what more is there to say

wide tiger
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You also get to wrack and ruin barrage on gunker that i quite enjoy

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melt the hordes around bulwarks

sacred dome
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Should have psyker aimed bullets

summer prairie
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oh that looks weird

shut ether
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The elusive 25 Unarmored 25 flak

summer prairie
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More annoyed by the lack of T4 blessings

shut ether
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Yeah true. Although that Void is going to be great once you get T4 Transfer on it

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Probably already is great

summer prairie
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Which one, they are all the same

shut ether
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The 379

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Mine isn'

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Mine isn't perfect but it's perfect for me:

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My baby

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Plus the crits make a CHONKY sound into hordes and can allow me to oneshot gunners

wide tiger
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yeah i love that sound

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My flurry voidstrike needs to be replaced, i still havent found t4 warp flurry for voidstrike

shut ether
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How does the Surge one perform? I've been wanting to try that

wide tiger
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They perform equally, surge a bit better because of animation cancelling

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lmb on crits is strong

shut ether
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Ah sure

wide tiger
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I think with a t4 transfer and t4 flurry and proper perks the flurry staff would perform slightly better

shut ether
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I just don't really care for the rapid-fire. It can be helpfull but I don't want to do it all the time

river sand
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those are mine, the surge one got shitty perk but who cares

wide tiger
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i like that flurry one a lot

river sand
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flurry performs better on high intensity, surge better on lower

wide tiger
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for me its almost area dependent

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like, long hallways vs open areas

river sand
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well the more enemies you can hit with 1 shot the better flurry gets

wide tiger
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the more thick hordes, the better, yeah

river sand
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and on low intensity maps, well when there are no enemies left when flurry is stacked or your peril is at 100% then surge shines

shut ether
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Def jelly. I can't finds any staffs in my Milk shop

wide tiger
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I mean, in a really thick horde a double full charge is suuuper satisfying

shut ether
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You probaby brute-forced these though

river sand
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havent got anything from melk, buy greys and up em

shut ether
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Yeah but I don't want to have to quit my job KEKW_ogryn

wide tiger
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I've gotten things from melk

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pretty sure i got the tier 4 nexus one from melk

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and i got my purg from melk

shut ether
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Transfer Peril IV eludes me after 250 hours

wide tiger
shut ether
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Are you pleased, Varlet?

wide tiger
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I also dont have transfer peril IV

feral verge
wide tiger
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or warp flurry IV, but thats cause voidstrike has a bigger bless pool

feral verge
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@wide tiger nice purga

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v similar to mine

shut ether
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I feel like infested is a bit of an OOF on the void

river sand
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working on trauma right now. still not sure with the second blessing

wide tiger
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ive gotten most of my really good items from melk tbh

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when i roll myself its mostly garbage

feral verge
river sand
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everything melk sells, is like 330-350 base rating

feral verge
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oof would be sprint efficiency

wide tiger
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like i said ive made about 25 legendary force swords and over 100 blue force swords and all i've got to show for it is t4 shred

shut ether
feral verge
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infested make the bulk of hordes

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i BB those anway

shut ether
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The non-specialists?

wide tiger
feral verge
shut ether
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ah

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It probably has to 2 tap them though

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No way you can 1 shot them

feral verge
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unarmored would be preferred

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but infested is in no way an oof

river sand
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unarmored flak is best for void

feral verge
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infested is the next best thing to unarmored

shut ether
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Yeah but void doesn't need help with hordes

wide tiger
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for flurry, unarmoured + flak, for surge crit + flak

shut ether
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Still great staff thumbsup_ogryn

river sand
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i would rate the 10% for elite higher than infested

feral verge
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10% is nothing

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i hate that perk

river sand
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but better than infested ^^

feral verge
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i'd prefer unarmored but alas

wide tiger
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im inclined to agree, although sometimes i like infested/unarmoured on melee horde clear weapons

feral verge
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wish the unyielding dmg was unarmored

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or flak

shut ether
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I bet that destroys bulwarks but I guess you can just BB those

wide tiger
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or unarmoured even, either or

shut ether
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Anything to help you deal with shooters

feral verge
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i read somewhere on here that infested was important for trauma

wide tiger
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dogs and a few trash mobs, what else is infested

river sand
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you either need infested or 4 stacks to 1 shot poxwalkers

feral verge
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to kill infested out o nthe outer rings

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poxburster is infested

wide tiger
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i guess if its getting you to break points

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poxburster is instagib always tho

river sand
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poxburster dies in 1 shot with explosives anyway

shut ether
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I can see it being useful for one reason: You kill the group of infested instead of knocking them around everywhere KEKW_ogryn

river sand
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the horde mobs (poxwalkers) are infested and take less dmg from explosions. And its super annyoing not to be able to oneshot them

shut ether
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Trauma was my first staff, then I swapped to Purg due to meta. Then I settled on Void because void is love. Void is life.

wide tiger
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I think i'd still rather have flak or unarmored on there for shooters, but its all preference

river sand
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the better your dmg roll is the fewer stacks you need to oneshot em, so you dont need infested

supple skiff
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top of the list from milkman

wide tiger
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i hate that gun

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i made a godroll one and im so sad about it

river sand
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i've got a 79 dmg roll so as long i have 2 stacks i can oneshot. therefore no infested needed

supple skiff
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I wont use autoguns on principle, not rolling in the 40k universe to shoot a regular gun

feral verge
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me with knives

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not gonna use some lame dumb ass puny knife when i could use a thammer, or force sword, or drippy dueling sword

long wharf
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Are there regular guns used by the militarum, even?

void mural
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I think all "normal" guns are called stub guns?

cunning junco
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Any decent breakpoints on FS? mutants etc?

wide tiger
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Waiting for my Force Latrine Shovel

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thats what im playing a 40k game for

viral solstice
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also for those who were debating hand-cannon on reevolver

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on testing

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let's just say don't

wide tiger
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i already tested it

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she bad

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melted it for the blessing in case they buff

astral meadow
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No buff

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Only nerfs

sharp ibex
ember hornet
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I mean just run whatever you want for fun on revolver, cause it's all bad

wide tiger
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small amounts of rending feels like a really pitiful bonus, especially on something as unreliable as crits

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hand cannon should be 25/50/75/100 instagib on crit

viral solstice
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a crit headshot damage increase of just under 1%

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on a rager

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for 40% rending on crit

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525-530

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and precisely nothing on other armour classes other than carapace

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the issue is that crits already have bonus effect on armour

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so its giving u extra pen in the situation where u need it least

ember hornet
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just make a blessing that makes the revolver kill everything in one shot BUT there is also a 1/5 chance you explode

viral solstice
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i would use it and mash fire whole mission

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put me in coach

wide tiger
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I'd put you in

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i need my revive and rescue penances

shut ether
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I still need out with a bang PepeHands

feral verge
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best bet is to go to the 'vox channels lfg' here

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if you want it done as painlessly as possible

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need a coordinated team over coms

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a shield ogryn or two

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and DONT have kinetic flayer equipped

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because it can rob you of the penance

shut ether
feral verge
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no

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the suicide explosion can trigger kinetic flayer

shut ether
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ooo

feral verge
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and kill an enemy with a brain burst

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i got robbed the first time

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and had to wait another 40 mins in the level to get another oppurtunity

shut ether
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I never run it. I don't like BBing poxwalkers KEKW_ogryn

agile garden
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What gun has the highest DPS. I am thinking of synergizing it with the 5 second brain burst debuff.

feral verge
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idk what has the highest DPS for certain

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but ik the shredder autopistol is good

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telopots just uploaded a video on a gunker build using it

agile garden
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Yeah I was thinking recon lasgun or shredder. With Force sword. My main concern is regenerating toughness. Maybe quietude?

near wyvern
feral verge
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Recon is considered bad by many players

near wyvern
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You hold LMB and mutants just die

near wyvern
feral verge
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Because you lack a staff to quickly generate peril for quietitude/quickly lower peril

near wyvern
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My shredder build is EH, WR, CL, KD, KF, AB

feral verge
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I think that's what telopots is using

gilded viper
feral verge
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K

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We ain't gonna bury you

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Rip

agile garden
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Recon feeeels like it has autotarget

leaden thunder
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you can make it sorta work

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but it's like

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significantly worse

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then other options

lethal folio
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Vet can juice enough crit to make recon infernus work

gilded viper
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What is the downside of recon, is it just dps and bad vs Cara (like most stuff anyways)

leaden thunder
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and ammo consumption

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dps being a downside is a major reason why it's badKEKW_ogryn

wide tiger
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it does so little damage and takes so much ammo lol

gilded viper
leaden thunder
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unless it's like a slow fire rate weapon that 1 shots things

wide tiger
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at least the VIIa has some punch through

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so you dont face palm as hard when people magdump into a horde

gilded viper
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I mean I always thought the point of it was needing to shot alot to kill stuff since it basically no recoil

leaden thunder
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recoil is like a non issue for most guns imo

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unless it's like the mk5 ripper

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and you are spam firing the primary

wide tiger
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the autogun that fires faster when you downsight on it has pretty bad recoil if you dont cycle fire

leaden thunder
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that the fastest firing one?

wide tiger
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the graia i think

leaden thunder
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ah

viral solstice
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i invented that build

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i told him everything

leaden thunder
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I haven't tested the gria like ever

viral solstice
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wowee

wide tiger
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its bad

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lol

viral solstice
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disgraceful

wide tiger
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i hate it

lethal folio
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Recon VId is the fastest sprinter available.

wide tiger
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can you get stripped down on it?

viral solstice
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yeee

lethal folio
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You can, and it is one of the few rifles with strong base speed mods.

wide tiger
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New meta ignore enemies rush objectives and loot

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0 kill run lets go

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best of all, great ammo economy

gilded viper
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Never notice, love using the vld to fast suppress stalker cause fuck them

leaden thunder
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I shot near them like twice with my agri and the get supressed

wide tiger
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sprint effiency/+1 stam stripped down and.... ????

gilded viper
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Wish psyker have brace weapons 😦

gilded viper
leaden thunder
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I am fairly sure the agri inf can do it as well

wide tiger
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no im never gonna shoot no need for reload speed

gilded viper
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Only try the pe shooter one

leaden thunder
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agri inf is good, both vraks HH are good(execpt vs maniac but you have brain burst for that)

viral solstice
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no u shoot them anyway

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tell ur team to hold on

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u got this

gilded viper
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True teamplay

viral solstice
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its like when ur at the gym

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u yell to ur bro

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DONT SPOT ME

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WATCH ME

wide tiger
leaden thunder
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I tested how long they take to kill a trapper

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and it's pretty bad

wide tiger
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You still kill most maniacs faster with a HH than a BB

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unless youre doing barrage

leaden thunder
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2-3 bursts for the burts vraks

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all to the face

viral solstice
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i dont care about burts vraks

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how about mine

wide tiger
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which one is yours

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VII?

viral solstice
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i put my name on it

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and painted it pink

wide tiger
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i like the burst on gunker cause it gives me 3x the chance for flayer

viral solstice
wide tiger
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Oh the recon II? 😛

leaden thunder
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I was gonna fix it

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but i'll leave it as burts

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the semi vraks took like 4-5 shots to the dome for a trapper

viral solstice
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i think i have qutie a tasty 7 on my psyker

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tho i havent used

wide tiger
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you guys better be ready for the recon II super buffs

viral solstice
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u can see me there desperately trying to get them to notice that they could be using mobility

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to indicate that lighter variants are light

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imagine...

wide tiger
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NOPE

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If it looks small it shoots fast and reloads quick

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just like the revolver!

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Thats why i want them to put lots of spikey shit on the next psyker staff

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then its melee damage will be amazing

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So what class can best leverage the pinning fire/blaze away shredder? I would contest its psyker since all that power stacking can set you up for a pretty nice AB

twilit flicker
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I want to argue that psykinetics wrath should be what defines psykers, but for you guys it sounds like BB? What do you think?
Staff lovers and non psykers probably think it's staves (and bb).

shut ether
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I actually like brain burst. I just wish it was more interesting.

wide tiger
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I think its brainburst only because that's what generates our warp charges and has more interactions with our feats

leaden thunder
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to me it's the staves

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but I am not a psyker main by any means

wide tiger
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If psykinetics wrath had more interaction with our feat tree with the exception of the final tier id change my mind

twilit flicker
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Staves are the most noticable for sure, they make us stand out by a mile.

wide tiger
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Self explosion is pretty defining

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Just rando kablammo

twilit flicker
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It's worth taking in a bigger perspective too, what defines veterans, zealots, and ogryns? Is it the class skills? Probably not the grenades though. Our grenade is bb. Lol

wide tiger
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I know our grenade is BB but all of our class functions around it, thats the only reason why

twilit flicker
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I ask because every few weeks or so, there's a debate about gun psykers and synergy or whatever, right?

wide tiger
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I guess, gun psyker is functional

leaden thunder
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warp charges buff gun damage

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and guns are in general pretty good

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so it works

wide tiger
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yep

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kinetic flayer + cerebral + wrack and ruin works with guns

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essence harvest is pretty low toughness regen in comparison to like... every other toughness regen feat, but oh well

twilit flicker
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This isn't about guns, it's about what defines psykers, because I think that's where all this confusion comes from.

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BB is solidly in first place

viral solstice
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o its pretty spoicy

wide tiger
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Yeah i gotta stick with BB

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ohh nice

twilit flicker
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Staves make us unique

wide tiger
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i think i prefer crucian/salvo but that is pretty sweet

twilit flicker
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Didn't you show that the other day? It's pretty sweet!

viral solstice
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tbh i was pretty sleep deprived i used it once then went back to voidstrike

wide tiger
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You have to keep showing your items until you get the stroking you crave aight

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dont worry, I get it

viral solstice
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until i get surge

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who needs guns

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i need surge

twilit flicker
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Wait yeah, you said you forgot that you even upgraded that one, and that you forgot you had it. Right?

viral solstice
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yeah because i made like 5 on vet

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been filling out my blessings

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got t4 crucian and t4 os now

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oh yeah there was some guy

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who was convinced u cant kill shooters with a VII

wide tiger
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i still need crucian 4

viral solstice
wide tiger
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lol what

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you can body shooters with a VII

viral solstice
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idk just terminal vet brain

twilit flicker
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Anyway, I think psykinetics wrath needs a boost

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Back to work ...

wide tiger
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What would you boost?

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Maybe make kinetic barrage baseline? 😄

shut ether
wide tiger
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I guess. Most psykers are putting out pretty pathetic damage compared to other classes when i pub 5's though

shut ether
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Really? i Usually top the charts

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With Void

wide tiger
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Yeah you might, you also might play with really shitty vets or zealots

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Vets are monsters

shut ether
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I mean it's pretty consistent and I pub damnation all day

wide tiger
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I can top damage with my voidstrike too, but on average you see most psykers doing pretty garbo

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Also when i play with a really good zealot or vet i dont top them with void, or if i do its because im trash clearing

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but the elite kills and the shit that really matters is def going to the vets

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I also have really good gear

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easier in a hi5 to top damage than a lo5

steel egret
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BB spammer psyker who fires his staff like once a minute.

dusky bear
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lol wtf is melk doing now

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my ogryn gets nothing but oranges almost all of them having a t4 blessing. my psyker gets 1 shit tier axe orange and the rest purple

viral solstice
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i get top everything

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and also best looking

dusky bear
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i got all the penence unlocks. but melk still gives me shit :c

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at least im getting paid this week

shut ether
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Checking Melk's shop is your penance

viral solstice
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also i found a psychic dog

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who battled hte voidstrike pounce one shot

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with levitation

near wyvern
shut ether
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I was considering leveling multiple Psykers but I also need to keep my job

wide tiger
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gun psyker versus purgatus pub

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Guns are OP, doesnt matter what class uses them, imo

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although vets just make it better

near wyvern
wide tiger
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it is a lot of cc

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but so is death

viral solstice
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tbh i think that voidstrike is way better than voidstrike, every time i see 2 voidstrike psykers one voidstrike strikes more void than the other voidstrike

summer prairie
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bowling ball farming

viral solstice
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voidstrike vs voidstrike is a 10:0 matchup

near wyvern
dusky bear
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are all monstrosities unyielding?

wide tiger
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except assassination bosses, yeah

near wyvern
dusky bear
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oh what are they?

wide tiger
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flak i think

near wyvern
dusky bear
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hek

near wyvern
wide tiger
viral solstice
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shield is void shield (u cant see it on ur tables) and flak when shield down

dusky bear
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they count as them for contract

near wyvern
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But the shield is not counted as flak I think

viral solstice
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void shield has its own damage tables

near wyvern
dusky bear
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so vore slug and uh oh stinky are both unyielding but not assassination bosses

wide tiger
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void shield like super immune to ranged damage?

near wyvern
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Slug is also extra vulnerable for explosive damage

wide tiger
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trauma blow up slug?

dusky bear
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would be be worth dropping 5% crit perk for unyielding damage? on purg staff

near wyvern
dusky bear
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purg staff

wide tiger
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I just never use ranged on the shield... it feels like it does nothing

dusky bear
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ive noticed i very consistantly do most boss damage by just hosing the boss down with fire non stop

summer prairie
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purg is decent but not high boss dps

wide tiger
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remember when we talked about super mobile recon rifle

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emperor heard me

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thanks for the gift emperor now i can reroll sprint efficiency and run forever!

gilded viper
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Hit and run is so bad diescringe

near wyvern
wide tiger
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Its on theme

gilded viper
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When ghost is legit right there

dusky bear
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fair fair

wide tiger
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I get to use special activation to hit them, and then run

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unless recon special is flashlight, in which case i blind them with my highbeams as i driveby

gilded viper
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It flashlight

wide tiger
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beamers

gilded viper
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All laser gun expect pistol is flashlight

near wyvern
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Gotta flash that Daemon

wide tiger
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all stam curios with sprint efficiency and recon lasgun with max mobility and stripped down, zoooom

viral solstice
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sprint efficiency should make u faster

near wyvern
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Faster than knife?

viral solstice
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like 1% se should be idk 0.2% speed

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so if u full stack it

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u get a lil edge

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and then block efficiency should make u cooler

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20% block efficiency = 1% coolness

gilded viper
wide tiger
viral solstice
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no, 1% less

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because ur pushing it to the limit

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(the limit the limiiiiit)

near wyvern
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True chads take transfer peril and quell with staff bonk

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Coolness factor over 9000

viral solstice
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i do the reverse

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hit 100 peril with staff

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quickswap sword press specioal

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insta die

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its kind of an advanced frame cancel

near wyvern
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Just fush-ro-dah and you'll be fine

viral solstice
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a lotta ppl dont know it

near wyvern
#

Where is the fush-ro-dah mod anyway? We need one.

wide tiger
#

where is this H coming from

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you are triggering me

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FUSH

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stop it

near wyvern
#

RO

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Say it

#

I know you want it

wide tiger
#

fush-ron-dahg

near wyvern
#

Dawg

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Sush-yo-dawg

#
hollow creek
#

Is a brain burst more an actual pop in your head or is it like imploding

#

I need to know because I'm currently surrounded by brain dead customers and am trying to kill them with my mind

magic burrow
#

It's more like a burst.

hollow creek
lofty sable
wet jacinth
#

You first find a suitable Box

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And you WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT. THROW THAT BOX AT THEIR SKULL

#

Damage varies depending how built you are in comparison to a Ogryn

ornate hamlet
#

My passive brainburst build for gun psyker, then psyker mental breakdown mode with the level 10, 15, and 30 talents if there's monstrocities.

elder pine
#

I'm still leveling up my psyker, is a full flame build with purgatus staff viable?

twilit flicker
feral verge
#

but

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by 'fu;ll flame build'

#

if you're talking about wrack and ruin and kinetic overload

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those are not the best

#

especially kinetic overload

elder pine
#

Which one is kinetic overload?

feral verge
#

its n the fifth row of feats

#

it's the middle one, in the picture above

twilit flicker
#

Getting a warp charge when at max warp charges will set someone on fire. Hopefully the zealot.

#

Not heresy.

elder pine
#

Oooh right

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What about the last one, which gives a 10% chance to get warp charge when an enemy is killed by warp flames?

feral verge
#

it's the icing on the cake

#

for a purga build

elder pine
#

It sounds pretty decent

#

With like the 6 warp charge one and the peril resistance with warp charges one

twilit flicker
#

It's the best one, though I use kinetic barrage for flexibility

feral verge
#

this is that build

#

i only play damnation and have alot of success with it

elder pine
#

Neat! Psyker is a lot of fun so far

feral verge
#

i love psyker

#

for me it's the most fun class

trail jackal
#

hello does anyone know if +damage(%) (for example +25% vs flak) apply to the burn damage of the purg staff? or only application damage

viral solstice
#

ye it applies to dots u have active while u hold it

trail jackal
#

thank you

feral verge
#

i reccomend unarmored dmg for purga

trail jackal
#

I run flak + infested

feral verge
#

because for some reason purga already does bonus damage to flak, in game

viral solstice
#

i recommend jorts

trail jackal
#

unarmored damage seems fine without it the zombies not dying to the flames is my main gameplay concern

feral verge
#

i run crit + unarmored

trail jackal
#

do you know flak damage coeffecient on it? I remember seeing it being 1.5 vs unarmored and 1.25 vs infested

#

*coefficient

leaden thunder
#

the damage of the staff is mostly irrelevant

feral verge
#

i dont know the coefficient

#

but here's the dmg table on mine

leaden thunder
#

most of it comes from soulblaze dots

trail jackal
#

The burn coef

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its in a steam guide somewhere

steel flame
feral verge
#

might be pygex's guide

leaden thunder
steel flame
#

Steam Community :: Guide :: The Psyker Atheneum

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Oops

leaden thunder
#

it's in the pins here

trail jackal
#

does crit feel worth it? I feel like you already receive so much crit from blessing

#

I have not tried with crit so unsure

leaden thunder
#

some people run it

#

it applies 2 stacks of burn so that's neat

steel flame
#

Crit bypasses stack cap

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For soulblaze

trail jackal
#

so better for boss DPS

feral verge
#

purga crits alot

steel flame
#

I wish we had better blessings for all the staffs

feral verge
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especially with warp nexus iv and 5% crit rate perk

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my reg damnation games avg around 730 crits

trail jackal
#

Armour type Armour modifier
Unarmoured 1.5
Infested 1.25
Flak 2.0
Maniac 1.0
Unyielding 1.5
Carapace 0.1

steel flame
#

More blessings

feral verge
#

high intensity damnation i got 900 crits

trail jackal
#

this "Infested - 1.25" is actually the bane of my existence with purg staff

#

2.0 flak is crazy though might need to change flak damage off my staff seeing how the value is already so high

feral verge
#

go with crit rate or unarmored

steel flame
#

I have one I run with 25% unarmored and 25% infested and I prefer it over crit chance

feral verge
#

that might solve your beef with infested

trail jackal
#

I will test it

#

praise the emperor for the reroll mod

feral verge
#

yeah

#

it do be like that

steel flame
#

Let's me clear trash faster so I can force sword everything else

trail jackal
#

psyker build I run I use kinetic barrage (30 fast bursts)+ psykinetic aura(cooldown) so I can handle +/- every enemy

#

but getting swamped by zombies is painful

maiden gate
#

is 21% the highest?

cold geode
#

Ya

hollow creek
# elder pine I'm still leveling up my psyker, is a full flame build with purgatus staff viabl...

Personally the perks that add stacks of soul blaze are kind of a noob trap, even 2 or 3 stacks of soulblaze doesnt do a lot of damage because it has increased returns per stack
I dont remember the perks off hand but I regen armor on brain burst, have peril resistance per stack, have 6 stacks, have extra cooldown on elite kill, and my level 30 makes my brainburst cost less and charge faster

uneven rivet
#

Am I just bad at video games or is the force sword kinda crap?

hollow creek
uneven rivet
#

Guess I'm supposed to CC with the staff but that shits gotta charge you know?

feral verge
#

what staff are you using

uneven rivet
#

The pierce sniper one

hollow creek
#

Stand still so they dont try to follow you, slide dodge, let loose lucario ball

long wharf
feral verge
#

and there you have it

#

pygex has lost all credibility

long wharf
#

maybe it's counting as multiple crits? I don't know

#

but every on-hit blessing I've tested on the fsword only sees one hit/proc on special use

#

been a few patches since I tested

#

the blessing icon mod should make testing even more conclusive

uneven rivet
ornate hamlet
#

Also using the special attack with it can kill a lot of things in one hit which is handy

uneven rivet
#

That sounds amazing. Deflect is a blessing?

ornate hamlet
#

Yep. It's sweet

#

I basically only use my force sword to block bullets and kill tough things that get too close

near wyvern
long wharf
#

interesting, so special is supposed to be multiple hits

#

good to know

near wyvern
#

It's just that you cannot continue any chains from the special

long wharf
#

makes sense, anyways

near wyvern
#

So like for executor you can't get to full stacks

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Kinetic Flayer also counts as a stack if it happens during special or while you are chaining attacks

#

Haven't tested that with Exorcist tho

#

But in any case exorcist not working on special is officially labelled as an acknowledged bug

jagged lance
#

is Surge a good blesing for a Trauma staff?

long wharf
#

not at the moment

long wharf
ornate hamlet
#

I wanna rename weapons so I can rename it to "Masamune"

feral verge
#

not the charged aoe

#

so it's shit on trauma

#

BIS (best in slot) blessings for trauma are warp flurry and rending shockwave

near wyvern
near wyvern
twilit flicker
#

Pygex, a reliable tester, and he's humble!

ember hornet
wide tiger
#

I only use AB for purgatus, otherwise i find warp charge generation too slow

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find barrage keeping my charges + allowing me fast charge generation nice

feral verge
#

1.1 criticals with purga in my most recent high int damn game

#

1.1k*

wide tiger
#

I kinda like flurry/nexus on trauma

#

I like to crit more than i like to help my team

#

Does that make me a bad person?

#

Dont answer that i already know the answer

feral verge
#

what's the base crit rate of purga?

leaden thunder
#

5%

#

well

#

it's the psyker base which is 5%

river sand
#

nexus isnt the worst on trauma

#

rending isnt that super usefull

spice veldt
#

i prefer consistency on trauma

#

so focused channelling is my pick

river sand
#

focused is ok as well

feral verge
#

wish trauma had precog

spice veldt
river sand
#

but focused makes the trauma shitty rating, i want all my staves 540+ ^^

feral verge
spice veldt
#

woe is my 486 trauma staff with focused channeling 😔

feral verge
#

hahahahha

#

hey everyone look at this guy

#

look at this dude with a sub 500 staff!!!

#

lmfaoo lmaooo mad embarrassing loool

#
  • brought you by over 500 staff gaming
robust relic
feral verge
#

go into your inventory and hit inspect

spice veldt
#

[V] inspect, then [Tab] for attack breakdowns

feral verge
#

then hit tab

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@robust relic

spice veldt
#

tucked away in a little corner

feral verge
#

they hide it so it doesnt hurt the brains of vet players

robust relic
#

oh wtf, I didnt know that was in there

feral verge
#

(((they))) dont want you to know

robust relic
#

I like how they dont list the damage charged force sword does because reasons

ionic frost
#

Immeasurably complex.

#

(TM)

robust relic
#

Also looking at my purg staff melee attack is weird, vs unarmored it's 11 dmg, and this is a staff with +25% unarmored but vs unyeilding it does 45 for some reason...

ionic frost
#

Lots of weapons do more vs unyielding...

#

They have more HP too...

#

Bleed does more to them too.

#

Too bad the assassination boss shield no longer bleeds. =D

cold geode
#

they dont list it so you can find out its Hidden Potential™

spice veldt
#

it lists out the base damage that the weapon does purely based on its stats

robust relic
#

unarmored 11, infested 34, flak 23, unyeilding 45, carapace 0 (?!?) maniac 23....it just seems random

spice veldt
#

a lot of attention was dedicated to the staff special apparently

ionic frost
#

@robust relic And the amount of times you would actually want to use the staff special as it is...ZERO!

olive ember
#

the fine tuned damage numbers

#

the stagger values!

viral solstice
#

the staff special rules

olive ember
#

gotta proc that warp flurry

viral solstice
#

i think i hit a 200 crit by stacking a bunch of buffs before they fixed it

olive ember
#

the staff special is an easy way to proc warp flurry without needing to gain peril

#

clearly meta staff tech

olive ember
#

rip my fun

wet jacinth
robust relic
#

can the trauma staff even transfer peril? I suppose on a LMB?

olive ember
#

yep

stable silo
#

essence harvest vs quietude

leaden thunder
#

depends on the build

#

all 3 choices work well with different staves/builds

olive ember
#

quietitude is more consistent 9/10 times, essence harvest is rly good on purge builds since you generate alot of charges

wide tiger
#

^

#

I find you need AB and Purg to really get mileage out of essence harvest

stable silo
#

fair thanks

leaden thunder
#

you may also be able ot use essence on the fake purge set up for void/trauma

#

but how good that is in general idk

robust relic
#

lot of procs with harv and purg, but then again there are times when you just got hit by something and want some toughness back and quietude would work wonders

olive ember
#

essence harvest and quietitude are about similar for gun psyker builds, because then your only source of peril gain is from BB,

spice veldt
#

i like quietude for poking at ranged enemies with trauma

olive ember
#

so 15% peril every BB, or 30% every BB kill

#

more or less

#

technically less for essence harvest since it doesn't stack, only refreshes

#

so if you are killing targets with BB faster than 5 seconds you are refreshing the buff but not actually gaining the full 30%

wide tiger
#

the only one im not a huge fan of is the one on "warp kills" (soulblaze doesnt count, sad) because i usually dont need toughness back when im getting massive amount of staff kills

olive ember
#

i personally don't use it but apparently its good on voidstrike, purge, and trauma

#

dunno tho never used it myself

wet jacinth
#

Funny blue fire =/= Warp

shut ether
#

I like the consistent regeneration of on Warp Stacks combined with Communion

#

On quell almost seems redundant since if I'm quelling I'm normally pretty safe outside of the emergency 8743f

wide tiger
#

When i hide

#

i like to have something to do

#

to regen my tough

dusky bear
#

is gun psyker a thing or is that just gimping your squad?

leaden thunder
#

guns are good

#

most squads would rathr have a staff psyker but idk if i'd say it gimps them if you are good

feral verge
#

telopots uploaded this today

cyan notch
#

who is that

leaden thunder
dusky bear
#

that looks like the build i threw together

#

flayer/lascerations combo pretty nice

feral verge
#

the only real way psyker can do good dps vs boss

dusky bear
#

especially since the gun gets damage boost

#

wait what mod is he useing that gives all those buff timers

#

thats my biggest complaint in the game atm is the lack of buff indicators/timers for the weapon blessings

leaden thunder
#

I think it's called Show all buffs

feral verge
light quail
#

gimmie

#

Emperor I so badly want to hear a "WITNESS YOUR DOOM!" in darktide one day

dusky bear
#

i might as well learn how to mod the game my self since that will mean my QoL improvement desires get implemented far faster than the trickle of updates we have gotten since release

feral verge
#

zealot judge says 'i am your doom'

light quail
#

played through winter assault a few moons back and I absolutely love how balls to the walls the VA is in that game

halcyon creek
#

Much scenery got tooth marks in the Dow1 series

olive ember
#

already complete trash build

#

disregarded

dusky bear
#

kinetic deflection is bad?

olive ember
#

its easily the best perk in the column

spice veldt
#

kinetic shield is the middle lvl20 feat

cyan notch
#

i think kinetic shield is fine

dusky bear
#

oh myb

leaden thunder
#

tbh

#

most people don't block enough to actually use kinetic deflection

olive ember
#

He's using

light quail
#

which ones are in column 4 though?

#

can't remember off the top of my head

spice veldt
#

deflection (peril block), shield (10% to 33% reduced toughness dmg based on peril), mind in motion

olive ember
#

warp battery and ascendant blaze on his gun psyker

#

wow

#

wait is he even

plush sand
#

he's using specifically with pinning fire

light quail
spice veldt
#

I always run kinetic shield cuz I hate ranged enemies more than I hate melee enemies

olive ember
spice veldt
#

I also have trauma staff to act as my panic button for melee situations

olive ember
#

autopistol most important perk is pinning fire and second perk is blaze away

spice veldt
#

i'd probably just play less aggressively with guns though

light quail
#

I throw on KS if I'm running a staff, too good to pass up on a voidstrike

cyan notch
olive ember
#

thank fuck

#

oh AB for the stagger with pinning fire

light quail
#

no warp battery?
or is he going gunpsyker?

olive ember
#

build redeemed

#

gun psyker

light quail
#

ah gotcha

olive ember
#

wrack and ruin is questionable tho tbh

light quail
#

yeah I'd go for middle on that column

#

and then kinetic barrage on 6th

cyan notch
#

i think wrack is fine

olive ember
#

i mean it is but

leaden thunder
#

ab is there for a reason

olive ember
#

compared to the peril resist you get

leaden thunder
#

the power buffs of the pistol

cyan notch
#

with flayer and ab you can get charges

light quail
#

with warp battery and just go nuts, get a bunch of stacks and shoot everything

leaden thunder
#

apply to the dot

#

I don't think it needs warp battery

#

but i'd have to check the number

#

for it to 1 shot everything

light quail
#

that's how I'd run it cause I'm a stinky lil laspistol user

leaden thunder
#

since it should insta max pinning fire

olive ember
#

kinetic flayer is used as well since it helps maintain stacks

light quail
#

need all the extra dmg I can get

vocal socket
#

mind in motion chads rise up

leaden thunder
#

this build is very very specifically using the auto pistol

cyan notch
#

shoot an elite flayer procs u get wrack and ruin stuff around elite is burned

leaden thunder
#

just from an observation

olive ember
#

meh I'll run it and give it a spin

leaden thunder
#

basically using pinning fire and blaze away you don't need warp battery to 1 shot the same stuff

#

I think

#

I think crab was using something similar

olive ember
#

yeah the warp charge gen is a bit of a problem but

leaden thunder
#

and if crab is using it

olive ember
#

thats what kinetic flayer is for tbh

leaden thunder
#

it at least must be a funny meme

olive ember
#

its bad

#

XD

warped kernel
#

hey so what are considered the best perks specifically for force sword? tried searching but couldn't find anything.

olive ember
#

I mean this is my gun psyker build

#

yeah he runs communion + flayer

#

so thats his warp charge gen

spice veldt
#

maniac and carapace would be my ideal

#

but that's only with a FS with slaughterer

olive ember
#

yeah the stack gen is kinda mid

#

granted im running fucking low3

hybrid glade
#

What are yalls favorite melee weapons

lethal folio
#

I just run a normal blaze setup on gunpsyker. sometimes going warp unleashed with force sword.

spice veldt
#

force sword is my favorite melee weapon because of the special and the fact that it has access to Slaughterer

olive ember
#

I use FS

#

cuz funny block bullets

forest coral
#

think most of us have it in a build

olive ember
#

see a problem

spice veldt
#

i thought you were falling behind your team

#

but no

#

tf are they doing over there

#

at least you have a gun to clear the eyes

pine relic
#

@echo turtle did you just play the zealot

olive ember
stable silo
#

kinetic shield bad ?

spice veldt
#

i personally run kinetic shield all the time as a melee psyker

olive ember
#

very super duper bad stinky doo doo

spice veldt
#

but I also take a +3 stam curio and block eff to compensate for the force sword's absolutely doodoo block cost

#

since my rationale is that kinetic shield like having another +toughness curio, so it's fine to give up a curio to stamina

#

I also dislike having my passive peril regen stopped by blocking since i rely on it for force sword specials, and I have the trauma staff to clear enemies off downed teammates to revive them

olive ember
#

basically will you have value being able to take one extra shot

#

over infinite push attack spam

#

one of the biggest things about kinetic deflection is that it just lets you forever push attack, which basically makes hordes a non issue

spice veldt
#

if you're using a weapon with an actual push-attack (AKA not the force sword), then kinetic deflection is nice for that

olive ember
#

Like the moment you take a hit just hold rmb and spam push attacks

#

and yeah

#

super comfy

spice veldt
#

but for weapons like the force sword where pushing only costs 1 bar and it's not something that you spam, then kinetic shield is fine

olive ember
#

makes pretty much hordes a non issue

#

and then you use positioning to not get shot to shit

stable silo
#

should i be spamming trauma staff during fights or gettin in there with the force sword ?

viral solstice
spice veldt
#

being aggressive with the trauma staff is the best way to deal with ranged enemies

viral solstice
#

i just tested some pinning fire bleed memes and showed it to him

spice veldt
#

sprint-slide while casting into ranged enemies

#

that's why I take focused channeling

viral solstice
#

also u dont need pushes to make hordes a non-issue, u just need to be a chad

#

like this

#

👃

spice veldt
#

of course it depends on the map section, but there are some sections where you can be an absolute monkey and charge into ranged patrols with the trauma staff

olive ember
#

also

#

yeah i tested his build, granted it was in low three but

#

the stack generation wasn't there

#

I even had another psyker running purge and yeah

#

wasn't getting shit for warp charges

cyan notch
#

you have communion and flayer and manual bb

#

it should be pretty easy to maintain 4

olive ember
#

I mean the problem is that AB gets rid of em

#

maybe its just my play style where I use my ability frequently

cyan notch
#

u get em back if u ab hordes

robust relic
#

Ive never seen the need for stamina trinkets, regardless of FS or not FS, psyker default regen/push is plenty to stay alive

olive ember
#

it helps with peril blocking

#

thats the main reason

#

kek

robust relic
#

block eff is nice for picking people up in a crowd, otherwise likewise, haven't felt the need

olive ember
#

honestly tho its just personal preference

#

like i run a funny wound curio

brazen basalt
#

a bit of a stupid question, but what duelling sword blessings have value? is 10% of precognition even noticeable, if it's additive to already massive innate bonus? stacking uncanny strike also seems like a dumb gimmick for when you wanna dance with a mauler.

#

riposte is obviously massive, and shred, i guess. but eh.

spice veldt
#

so, +weakspot/+crit dmg actually does better if the weapon in question has a good weakspot/crit multiplier

#

but it's usually still not that great

viral solstice
#

uncanny isnt terrible but its kinda specific and situational

#

precog is just a meme

#

they fucked the numbers on it

#

and it only applies once on crit weakspots

#

so u dont even get to dip it twice

spice veldt
#

breh

viral solstice
#

invest now and wait for the buff

brazen basalt
#

lol

olive ember
#

3 minutes until disappointment time

brazen basalt
#

i do have a raw shitty sword with both uncanny and precog t4, waiting for hadron sacrifice.

#

but since both look like crap stat-wise, no rush to slap it on my main.

olive ember
#

fucking hadron

#

the fact that vets love her so much shows they got no taste

brazen basalt
#

is duelling rampage worth it? can it be procced reliably?

leaden thunder
#

it can be

#

if you push attack

spice veldt
#

the lights and heavies on all duelling swords have at most 2 cleave, so the only enemy that you can cleave three times are pretty much groaners (0.75 mass)
the push-attack has 6 cleave

robust relic
spice veldt
#

still no force weapons in my milk shop

gloomy gulch
#

This is worth it right?

#

or nah

leaden thunder
#

the burnGuarded

robust relic
#

burn should be the highest stat, damage lowest

olive ember
gloomy gulch
#

yes the burn is potato

leaden thunder
#

tbh it's probably worth to rip flurry off of

gloomy gulch
#

yeah that is what I was thinking as well

leaden thunder
#

nexus rather

#

not flurry

gloomy gulch
#

almost got baited lel

olive ember
#

I forget is it the mk 7 thats the good one

#

or nah

lunar hollow
#

is this worth the melk coins to strip the blessing?

leaden thunder
#

both vraks are good

lunar hollow
#

(rending shockwave)

austere estuary
#

melk trolling

lunar hollow
#

(terrifying barge is shit)

austere estuary
#

warp flurry 4

#

but on surge

leaden thunder
#

idk if I'd want crit stuff on the semi vraks tho

olive ember
#

fml I want a warp flurry 4

#

on my surge staff

twilit flicker
#

I am not much of an axe user, but this one made me exhale heavily. do I take it? if i do i wont have enough to get anything else.

shadow wigeon
#

Alright tried Shredder AB build, that was pretty fun

olive ember
#

Were you getting stacks for AB?

shadow wigeon
olive ember
#

cuz i couldn't maintain stacks for shit in my low 3

shadow wigeon
#

I don't think AB works great below damnation TBH

#

Sorry not AB really - psychic commuion specifically

#

feeds AB

proven panther
#

I've not played Psyker in a while but I still check my shop. Is Deflector on Force Sword still the most desired blessing? Getting this from Melkies and I don't think I'll want to reroll the blessings.

shadow wigeon
#

I would much prefer to run Aura, but tried communion first to be safe.

olive ember
#

meh I'll run it back one more time in damnation

#

Alright anyone named Aso

shadow wigeon
olive ember
twilit flicker
gloomy gulch
#

Ill buy it and give her a spin, I dont own a purge staff so why not

shadow wigeon
#

I had top damage (by a hair.....) on my lo5 with Shredder AB

hybrid glade
#

Decent for a fresh 30?

olive ember
#

lol toxic

spice veldt
spice veldt
olive ember
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on damnation

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idk why he was so mad lmao

spice veldt
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oh now I see that two wounds

olive ember
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i've been running autopistol meme for like a week now

hybrid glade
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Why would someone be mad his build is popular

hybrid glade
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That means he made a good build

gloomy gulch
shadow wigeon
spice veldt
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oh and it was another psyker?

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dafuq

hybrid glade
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The nerd rage is coming from inside the house

feral verge
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seems like he's surreptitiously bragging

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trying to say

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hey thats MY build that I came up with, and i want you to know it

hybrid glade
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Fuck 'em.

feral verge
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because im cool and built dif

forest coral
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its kinda not a secret anymore than autopistol with pinning fire and blaze away is pretty ridiculous

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especially once you get at least one decent perk to go with it

twilit flicker
spice veldt
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mfs when they say something is underrated

shadow wigeon
forest coral
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Mfs when their old weird useless builds that gave them identity suddenly get accepted as good from discovered requirements

feral verge
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i just played a high int game with someone playing auto pistol psyker

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we won

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he topped the scoreboard

feral verge
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and his gun seemed good

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but he got downed alot

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he died 2 or 3 times

viral solstice
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thats a good sign

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how many were suicides

shadow wigeon
feral verge
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none that i know of

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harder to suicide when you dont have a staff

viral solstice
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hmm not such a good sign

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u can alw ays suicide

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so many ways

feral verge
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yee

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he just went on his own a bit and would get schmegegged

spice veldt
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that's what I do as well; sometimes I even live

feral verge
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i always always stick with the team, or atleast a pair

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i usually have the highest coherency efficiency in the scoreboard

twilit flicker
feral verge
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if that's to be trusted

spice veldt
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I usually have one of the lowest since I like to fuck off somewhere to get all the kills to myself