#psyker-class

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feral verge
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oof

gloomy obsidian
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Sooo close

feral verge
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chrage rate

gloomy obsidian
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I got fucked in the ass by the game

still hearth
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That's a feature.

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Enjoy it.

gloomy obsidian
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Yeah just got one that seems as good as I'll get

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Best I could ask for atm

still hearth
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That's so close to perfect

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With max damage you'd probably not roll anything better in forever.

vestal stirrup
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So

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how do I use the flame staff?

pine hearth
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right click to charge

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left to release

spice veldt
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LMB for better stagger, RMB for better Soulblaze application

spice veldt
vestal stirrup
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cool

long wharf
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now let Hadron brick it

vestal stirrup
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how could Hadron brick it?

pine hearth
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I guess quell speed is the dump stat on trauma?

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but even that dosent sound nice

feral verge
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yeah

pine hearth
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you could get 2 t1 perks

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or 2 t1 blessings

leaden thunder
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idk if it's possible to get double t1 blessings while consecrating

river sand
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nah quell speed is kinda important on trauma

feral verge
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for me, it's not more important than the other stats

river sand
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bet would be 80 dmg 75 rest

spice veldt
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damage is the dump stat for me

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since you can still reach important breakpoints with 60 damage as long as you have +Unarmoured and +flak

river sand
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with 60 dmg and unarmored/flak dont you miss the breakpoint for poxers ?

spice veldt
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I don't use my trauma staff for hordeclear, and the outer radius damage will finish them off anyways

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bruisers/stalkers/shooters are more dangerous

river sand
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other more important question for trauma: Flurry or no flurry. traumas peril generation doesnt let you pump out to many blast that flurry really shines, wouldnt it be better to animation cancel for shorter delay ?

pine hearth
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I can get like 15+ blast off in a horde

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with flurry

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also if you hold rmd and quell the stacks stay

spice veldt
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quelling drops your flurry stacks

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I use flurry for a minor boost in cast speed even if I can't make use of max stacks

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so that I can repeatedly interrupt stalkers/shooters from volleying

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or I can ult and maintain my flurry stacks (as long as I'm holding RMB)

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and the warp res stat on my main trauma staff isn't good enough for 4 full charged blasts without flurry

river sand
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sure, but animation canceling gives a significant speed boost. at least with void i knows flurry is better than canceling after 5 casts. so wouldnt it be good to ignore flurry, animation cancel and get something like nexus ?=

spice veldt
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trauma's charge scales much more harder than voidstrike

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because the damage and area scale massively with charge

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if I'm blasting a single enemy I'd probably do low charge blasts on them, but I definitely want full charges if there are two or more

river sand
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in fact the shorter overall cast time of trauma make canceling even better cause the delay between casts that you get rid of by canceling has more impact on the attackspeed

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btw animation canceling doenst mean to spam low charged attacks

spice veldt
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you mean quell cancelling between RMBs?

river sand
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yeah

spice veldt
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i don't like nexus because it's crits, and it's not as though it has a good multiplier on trauma

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consistency is much preferred because I'll know that I can kill a shotgunners with a full charge followed by a no charge

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and being able to do 8 continuous blasts with ult is extremely good for starting engagements

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my ult is basically used as a kinetic Barrage for my trauma staff

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I also run focused channeling to ensure that my casts aren't interrupted

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if you don't, then I see how flurry is useless

still hearth
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Y'all don't stack flurry with LMB or specials? Smh.

spice veldt
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punching air

still hearth
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Any time you hear a horde you can just punch air owoNods

river sand
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we need some serious theroycraft guys here. i can imagine, something like rending + nexus/focused with quellcancel might give higher dmg output

spice veldt
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I forget about that tech every time I start up the game lmao

still hearth
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Though if we're talking about Trauma

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I don't know nothing

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Rending seems garbage though

spice veldt
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I don't recall quell cancelling to be massive with trauma staff at least

river sand
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you dont get benefit from rending but your team

spice veldt
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your melee benefits

still hearth
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Muh team can use armor pen weapons if they want to armor pen

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I use my BB

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Or just my trauma stick

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I guess

spice veldt
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I see rending shockwave as the "I have friends" blessing

still hearth
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There's no way that quell canceling is faster than 1/2 charge time though

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And you don't get the 50% discount on peril

river sand
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maybe even something like nexus/blazing and running AB might work

still hearth
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I wish Brittleness was a per player stack

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So you could get 40% each

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For over 100% damage

river sand
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i wish trauma had rending and not brittleness

leaden thunder
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I mean it was "rending"

still hearth
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But that would make it even worse?

leaden thunder
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before

spice veldt
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I mean, trauma has a huge ass aoe

leaden thunder
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the only thing the explosion does less damage to is like

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infested

still hearth
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The only damage increase it gets is from infested iirc

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Ye

river sand
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nah rending would give the dmg boost for urself on the inital cast

spice veldt
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it's basically rending for every enemy that you hit

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Trauma staff doesn't benefit from rending because it deals 100% damage against almost every armour type

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rending is not a damage boost

still hearth
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Idk if the 40% at full charge would even be impactful against infested.

spice veldt
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it is an armour ignore

river sand
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that might be true

leaden thunder
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about what?

still hearth
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Just make Brittleness 2x value

leaden thunder
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rending?

still hearth
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If you can give 80% Brittleness

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Now we're talking

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Anti-carapace

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40% is nice on weapons that don't do carapace damage

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But people wont hit carapace with those (except Vets)

spice veldt
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rending + Purg teammate

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I run the force sword so I get basically no personal benefit from rending shockwave

feral verge
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first game on new psyker

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for melk store

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i never knew the las pistol had a unique force shove lol

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all this time

spice veldt
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smh you haven't used the las pistol's special until now?

feral verge
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i probably did when i first got the game

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in nov or whenver it came out

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but i forgot

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and havent used las pistol since

spice veldt
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smh no photographic memory

feral verge
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smh my head

spice veldt
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it was pretty memorable to me cuz I came from veteran

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and I was like cool maybe other weapons might be like this

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and then I got jebaited

leaden thunder
feral verge
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i got godroll forcesword from brunt's

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yeah this'll be good

spice veldt
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omg 24% warp resistance

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how are you getting these low warp res swords

tough trail
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should i pick antax 5 over catachan 3 blade

spice veldt
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combat axes deal good unyielding damage and have decent hordeclear with brutal momentum

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if you like that, then sure

tough trail
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ok\

leaden thunder
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the claw swords are

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incredibly mid

tough trail
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i feel like im always doing subaverage as psyker, am i not using voidstrike properly?

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can you guys tell me how to use voidstrie efficiently

leaden thunder
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point at head height and blast away

tough trail
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spam?

spice veldt
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aim higher than you'd expect

tough trail
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i always full charge so thats prob the problem

leaden thunder
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well not quite spam the uncharge

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but it's mroe of a rail gun then an explosion

feral verge
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charge it up to 50-75%

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if you have time (like far away enemy) go ahead and full charge

leaden thunder
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the explosion part of the voidstrike is

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not very good

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but the main projectile will punch through like 8 pox walkers

tough trail
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oh i see

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so it has to be precise

leaden thunder
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sorta it's still a big hit box on it

tough trail
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and for stragglers far away should i just let my team deal with those

leaden thunder
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the normal shot will often 1 shot them with a headshot

tough trail
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yeahj but they run constantly

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stalekrs

spice veldt
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I just get lazy and BB running enemies whenever I use voidstrike

still hearth
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If its just one enemy at mid-long range

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I often use BB instead

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Because their movement kind just

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Sometimes they stop randomly

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Or start moving randomly

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In fact if there's several and they're spread out I also BB often, too.

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It's too bothersome to lead the shot

spice veldt
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it's also why I use the trauma staff instead of voidstrike

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of course, there are new aiming difficulties to deal with

leaden thunder
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voidstrike is a dopamine factory tbh

feral verge
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its def the most satisfying

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the sound design

spice veldt
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getting the trauma circle onto the step of a stair sparks joy for me

tough trail
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omg your tips worked

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i actually feel useful

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and i got all 3 dodge this achievements within like 5 seconds

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lol

pearl lion
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Im not sure if it's cause im in Oceania, but the LMB on voidstrike etc feeels very janky

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It feels like there's about a 10th of a second of delay on clicking attack and it actually leaving your hand

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Its kind of like how I VERY OBVIOUSLY dodge a dog or a mutant and still get pounced. I suspect that there is no Oceanic server and they just use some kind of peer to peer shenanigans to make the game mostly feel not laggy

fierce sinew
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what's your ping

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when this happens

pearl lion
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It always happens

fierce sinew
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what is your ping to the server usually

pearl lion
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Im not sure, I've never checked

fierce sinew
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you should, for science

pearl lion
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Its weird though, the game never feels laggy really except for dogs, mutants, LMB staff attack and occasionally snipers

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Not at home rn or I would check

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Does it display in numbers somewhere?

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Or is it an option you need to enable/mod

spice veldt
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you'll need a mod to see your ping

pearl lion
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That'd be why

fierce sinew
austere estuary
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so you know how credit shop weps only have lvl 2 perks on them now, does that extend to the perks that are possible to get on them if we upgrade one?

still hearth
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Not from what I've been able to tell.

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The crafting and shop uses different rules.

pearl lion
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Getting t3 and 4 perks from upgrading is very rare if I recall correctly

fierce sinew
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you recall incorrectly, t3 are the most common

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t4 are the annoyingly less common

viral lotus
pearl lion
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I think the blessings from upgrades may be tied to the items base level?

viral lotus
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Also wrong

olive ember
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literally 70 ping is enough

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so yeah

viral lotus
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Amazing

pearl lion
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I literally watch a dog go past me, like I can see it's side in front of my face and
boomf

viral lotus
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Wait a second, you can backwards dodge a sniper shot??

fierce sinew
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literally every day

leaden thunder
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dodging makes you immune to a lot of different attacks

fierce sinew
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lmao

leaden thunder
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not every attack

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but a good amount

viral lotus
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Yeah but not backwards

pearl lion
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Fark, this actually makes me pretty mad

leaden thunder
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no it makes you in a state that makes you immune

viral lotus
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I get it

pearl lion
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I asked the CMs to clarify if there was going to be an Oceanic server and they were so coy about it

viral lotus
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I think it's stupid

pearl lion
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Never got a straight answer

viral lotus
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Let me answer it for you:

pearl lion
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I knew getting dedicated servers was going to make the game worse for me

fierce sinew
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you ask a video game cm a question expecting a straight answer, you deserve the disappointment you receive

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sometimes you make your own luck

olive ember
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simply move to America

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ez pz

spice veldt
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f to OCE players

pearl lion
olive ember
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You don't like freedomland that much?

pearl lion
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I dont want to get shot

fierce sinew
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prefers triple digit ping and spiders apparently

viral lotus
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER

olive ember
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FREEDOM UNITS WOOO

pearl lion
spice veldt
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Alexa, how many ounces are in a pound

clear hamlet
fierce sinew
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do you have a script doing this or are you actually selecting, by hand, unrelated pictures of bald men to attach to everything you say

viral lotus
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What??

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That's Dean

fierce sinew
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I'm trying to get a sense of what kind of autism I'm dealing with

pearl lion
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It's legit kind of annoying spamming those pics

viral lotus
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Do you not know Dean Norris

fierce sinew
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is this store brand or like

pearl lion
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Ive seen Breaking Bad yes

viral lotus
fierce sinew
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international sanctions, highly enriched, no peaceful purpose autism

feral verge
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im level 4 now

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just lost the first malice run at the end of an assasination mission

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braindead zealot

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no one has questioned the malleus monstronum armor

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i was hoping to be accused of hacking

spice veldt
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they probably think it's premium armor haha

feral verge
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that's what i was thinking

austere estuary
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emprah's gift a trauma staff with terrible statline, and both blessings already unlocked sadgeCry

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on the other hand

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finally gonna consecrate this fella

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not sure what to reroll on perks

olive ember
olive ember
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I would be jealous

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if I actually used the memestrike

fierce sinew
sonic coral
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this is my standard dam staff

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not perfect but it gets the job done

austere estuary
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flurry on trauma?

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thought it still didn't work

spice veldt
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is only broken on purg or surge iirc

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it definitely works fine on trauma

sonic coral
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seems like it works on trauma

austere estuary
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oic

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that's good

spice veldt
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W for equinox staffs

austere estuary
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I have two traumas atm I can't decide between

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blazing spirit one had something like run n gun on the other slot or whatever

olive ember
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The one on the left can swap nexus for flurry

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so yeah

austere estuary
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I don't think I'd want to use flurry on trauma without 80% quell or close to

olive ember
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Nah you still want flurry

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faster charge time also means less peril gained

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its double duty

austere estuary
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yeah, but instead I can just run at max peril

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and rinse the 25% damage and 16% crit

olive ember
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bruh

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this guy uses warp unleashed

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visual disgust

austere estuary
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I find it hard to picture not using it really even with the wrack and ruin buff

olive ember
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is warp unleashed good on trauma even? I thought the only use for it was so you could start killing with voidstrike earlier, or to help with FS along

austere estuary
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well 25% damage is huge

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mind you, talking does remind me

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trauma crits are kinda ehhhhh

olive ember
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it only rly matters if it hit breakpoints tbh

austere estuary
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so maybe flurry nicer even at high peril

olive ember
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especially since its competing with warp resist

austere estuary
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with a flexible charge you're always able to breakpoint schmuck mobs faster if you were needing full charge before, and for bigger mobs you're doing more in the team context

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warp res not really gonna mean much to you if you're slingshotting

olive ember
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eh

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granted I use surge staff so yeah warp res is pretty much the go to

austere estuary
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I just can't see passing up on such a big damage buff for trauma and also FS

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especially after the buff

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used to sometimes leave it for void but after they boosted it not even sure about that

tough trail
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????

austere estuary
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you can skin them

tough trail
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your trauma looks like a voidtrike what is this sorcery

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oh fr

austere estuary
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yeah

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from credit shop

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any staff can look like any staff

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for some reason

tough trail
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the only two camos are red and black camo i thought

austere estuary
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yeah but you can use purg on any, or void on any, etc

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doesn't need to match the staff type

spice veldt
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probably the blue camo since that one is basically unnoticeable

feral verge
tough trail
feral verge
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i tried hounds malice on new psyker

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it went okay

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until one of the other psykers opened up a door

feral verge
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while hounds were ocming

tough trail
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thats cook

austere estuary
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just use a camo from another staff

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on whatever staff you want

tough trail
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oh yeah youre right for orgryn i could make my bull butcherer look like a krourk mk 4 or krourk mk 6

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if its of the same 'type' of weapon you can make it look like any of those of the same class

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which is pretty cool

ember hornet
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I tried to make funny crit voidstrike work, definitely noticeably worse than big power with transfer peril

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crit/flame

sonic coral
austere estuary
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oh my god

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they made refining worse????

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need to re-click the perk to reroll every roll???

sonic coral
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:^)

feral verge
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who here

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is ready

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for melk

sonic coral
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I'm ready for him to give me fucking nothing like always

feral verge
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nah

sonic coral
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fuck the milk man

feral verge
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this itme

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time

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it's gonna be epic

sonic coral
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I have more milk money than I can use

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oh it's in one more hour LOL

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very cool daylight savings thank u

feral verge
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oh yee

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foiled again

austere estuary
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but

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I don't have any currency ho ho

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warp flurry 4, warp nexus 4, just watched them float by

feral verge
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i've only ever bought one thing from melk lol

unkempt laurel
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yall running the same feat build on surge and purge staffs?

spice veldt
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I build mainly around my Force sword so I dont change my feats

unkempt laurel
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What kind of build you running? Psyker is my least played class sadly. Running 1-2-1-1-1-2 right now

austere estuary
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D: D: D:

olive ember
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Um

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depends on the staff

austere estuary
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the cursed lightbulb

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spread from cosmetics to this

unkempt laurel
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thats a funny lookin staff

rich rose
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Learn to block people, I sure do

olive ember
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My surge staff build uses 3-2-2-1-3-3
My purge staff build uses 1-2-1-1-1-2

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My MetaPsykerTM build uses 2-1-2-3-2-1

clear hamlet
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what about splurge staff

sonic coral
olive ember
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Because its Meta

sonic coral
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and 1-2...

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it's so meta I can't tell what it's supposed to do

olive ember
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warp absorption so whenever I kill someone with BB I get that instant toughness

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essence harvest sucks cuz its over time

spice veldt
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makes sense

olive ember
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Force weapon honestly because everything else in that column sucks, wrack and ruin is a meme according to everyone else and I don't need warp resistance

fierce sinew
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your meme build should have the meme

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you're 1 feat away from all memes

spice veldt
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communion?

sonic coral
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*you're 1 feat and 2 feet away from all memes

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that needs to be your 3rd pic

olive ember
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Idk what you guys are saying

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this build has beaten Hi 5

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easily

austere estuary
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what are the chances

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never get triple vet

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then reading about others getting triple camo vets

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and man it's death LUL

olive ember
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I've had a game where I crashed while loading in

steel flame
olive ember
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all 3 vets were downed by the time I came back

olive ember
steel flame
clear hamlet
ornate hamlet
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Picked up this little th ing on reward, replaced sprint efficiency and hit and run

feral verge
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rate my build

ornate hamlet
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1/6

feral verge
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alas 😔

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but i put alot of thought into it

ornate hamlet
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Whoa!

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For my gun build, this is awesome! (hope it perks out well)

feral verge
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being tall definitely makes you feel slower

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my main og psyker, mai is short af

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and she feels fast

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this new psyker is tall af

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feels slower

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but ik its not

ornate hamlet
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Wanna feel slower? Decrease FoV to min.

feral verge
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placebo effect

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fov is at max lol

ornate hamlet
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Wanna feel fast? Go with a knife at max fov

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ye

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FoV at min is good for snipers

kind jay
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being small is good, but have you tried just throwing your body away?

feral verge
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many times

steel flame
fiery atlas
fiery atlas
kind jay
leaden thunder
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optimal psyker

fiery atlas
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GW releases psyker models that are floating heads

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=/= servo-skulls

feral verge
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Melk time

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2 mins

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Gaming will change

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Forever

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new carry staff

cyan portal
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Which blessings are regarded as bis for voidstrike? What feat build do people run with it?

feral verge
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You'll want warp flurry and transfer peril

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And as for perks, unarmored/infested and flak

nocturne badge
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already have a better one, but i'll probably buy the new one to strip pinning fire 4 off it so i have access to it and blaze away

feral verge
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@cyan portal

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I use that build for trauma and void

nocturne badge
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they really need to revert kinetic shield to be based on warp charges

lethal folio
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Sustained fire is also good on voidstrike.

nocturne badge
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does it work on right clicks?

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last time i tested it didn't

feral verge
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Transfer peril and warp flurry are 100% bis

lethal folio
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If it doesn't, I retract.

nocturne badge
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i'm psure sustained fire only works on lmb

restive slate
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Warp Flurry still broken for Purgatus and Surge, right? What other bis blessing other than warp nexus?

nocturne badge
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warp flurry works for purg

feral verge
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Yeah it appears to work on purga

restive slate
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Ohh? Neat

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How about Surge then?

feral verge
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I don't use surge so idk

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I'm built different

cyan notch
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you still get some benefit though

lethal folio
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If sustained fire does not work, that would be a bug. It should infact be effecting Only the secondary fire

restive slate
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I'm using all staves to fill up all build slots haha

feral verge
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Even if sustained fire worked I wouldn't use it

safe crystal
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So, uh. Whoever is saying purg flurry works, care to elaborate exactly how its supposed to be working? The charge time remains the same with the first 3 casts unless you do small RMB puffs that do practically nothing, and by the time you have done 4 of those to get that one fast full charge, you're already casting your second full charge without it. And you lose the stacks immediately if you decide to go full charge after gaining max flurry stacks, requiring you to repeat it again.

rich rose
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Not a fan of the dueling sword but put this together

lethal folio
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Why not, it is effectively as good as warp flurrying.

pearl lion
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I really hope they add more force melee weapons

feral verge
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@rich rose precog sucks unfortunately

cyan portal
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@feral verge You think this is worth the bucks then?

pearl lion
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Force glaive or something would rule

pearl lion
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It could use Krillains glaive move set

feral verge
rich rose
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Still trying for slaugther 4

lethal folio
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Do you not see how that reducing your time to charge is equivalent to increasing your effectiveness per charge?

feral verge
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Voidstrike already effective for it's job

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I'd rather it be faster

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Then do more direct damage

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Warp flurry + transfer peril means never wasting time with quelling

pearl lion
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I do wonder if they do make more force weapons if they'll still use the same single target killing special, or if we might see some weapons that have a special closer to the power sword

feral verge
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Just shot after shot after shot

lethal folio
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A metaphor: is doubling your speed better than reducing the distance by half?

feral verge
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I've never heard anyone recommend sustained fire

sinful stream
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Warp nexus broken on trauma yes? The show buff mod seems to say that you can only get 2 stacks until you are on like 98% peril then suddenly 4 stacks

safe crystal
restive slate
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Yea I noticed that too

feral verge
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Voidstrike is already capable one oneshotting pox walkers and shit

sinful stream
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Ok once that's fixed my Blazing spirit staff is gonna be so much fun

feral verge
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Rather let balls loose faster to stagger more

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Sustained fire only does extra damage on the 2nd and 3rd shots. Thats it

lethal folio
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In that case why is reducing your charge time with flurry helping you. If you already one shot them.

feral verge
#

Not anything after that

safe crystal
#

It also reduces peril generated, afaik

feral verge
#

So you move onto the next group with speed

feral verge
lethal folio
#

If you do more damage, you do not have to charge as much, savvy?

feral verge
#

I don't charge

safe crystal
#

Only on 2 shots, then you have to quell to reset, or quick swap

feral verge
#

It reaches 50-75% charge almost instantly

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I almost never fully charge

lethal folio
#

If you don't charge, why are you using warp flurry?

feral verge
#

Speed

lethal folio
#

Speed at what?

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What do you think warp flurry changes?

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The ||Charge||

feral verge
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.

lethal folio
#

You are a walking contradiction.

feral verge
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You're reading too far into it

lethal folio
#

No, please explain it to me.

feral verge
#

I won't change your mind so no

lethal folio
#

Why do you want warp flurry if you don't charge attack?

feral verge
#

I do charge

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Just not fully

feral verge
feral verge
lethal folio
#

"I don't charge"

feral verge
#

Yes

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I clarified that statement after

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With the quotes I just replied to above

lethal folio
#

And what does charging the voidstrike do?

feral verge
#

I'll leave it with this. I've never seen anyone but you recommend sustained fire. I've seen tons of people here recommend warp flurry + transfer peril. That tells me sustained fire doesn't do anything revolutionary in comparison, after months of ppl of testing

lethal folio
#

So how are you not getting that doing more damage means you don't have to charge as much, which is equivalent to charging faster to do more damage.

safe crystal
#

I would honestly take faster charging over more damage on 2 shots specifically. Mainly because flurry reduces charge time and peril generation, because its tied to charge time. You get way more out of your boomstick that way

wide tiger
#

Sustained fire is only the second and third shot in a volley then you gotta reset, and isnt it like 15% extra damage? its pretty low value compared to 50 extra charge rate

lethal folio
#

Again: Doing more damage means you don't have to charge as much, which is equivalent to charging faster to do more damage.

wide tiger
#

hell I'd rather do nexus surge

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if im just looking for big damage

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granted nexus sucks right now but thats gotta change down the road, hopefully

spice veldt
#

charging the voidstrike also affects the epicentre cleave

spice veldt
#

and you only need two warp flurry stacks to get an advantage over sustained fire

safe crystal
#

Why would i want to do more damage to things that die in one hit without the blessing?

wide tiger
#

which you can charge by primary fire (unsure if this a bug or not for flurry)

spice veldt
#

their point is that the relative damage per time spent charged is going to be the same/better

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but even that is moot by the time you get two flurry stacks

lethal folio
#

Nono, we are numbers aside here.

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He said that charging faster is strictly better than doing the same damage at less charge.

cyan portal
spice veldt
#

well there's also the cleave thing

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and while I hate the outer blast radius, that's something that you might want

lethal folio
#

Aside from the fact that sustained fire is meant to give the charge level stat.

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Which means it is boosting it exactly the same way.

spice veldt
#

oh it's mechanically different on the voidstrike than guns?

wide tiger
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The other question, and I dont know this, is the damage increase linear for time charged?

lethal folio
#

Yes, but I supect it is being overriden by the default buff template and giving ranged damage instead.

feral verge
#

But ik carapace is shit

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So not much else you could put on

cyan portal
#

Maniac is generally good, covers lots of important targets

feral verge
#

Yeah not a bad call

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I BB them anyway

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So I take unarmored/infested and flak when available

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Just in case it meets breakpoints

wide tiger
#

Maniac, Flak, and Unarmored to me seem like the universal "best perks", disregarding specialty cases like crit, carapace, etc

safe crystal
#

Sustained fire doesnt work on voidstrike RMB right now, so the entire debate was pointless KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
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Maniac is primarily for melee since mutants are the big spooky men that you want to DPS down

wide tiger
#

and it struggles with maniacs

spice veldt
#

Unarmoured and Flak are for dreg/scab enemies, which should probably be put on your ranged

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smh guns

wide tiger
#

flamers i believe are maniac

leaden thunder
#

yes

wide tiger
#

Yeah i play vet zealot and psyker

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😛

leaden thunder
#

both flamers are maniac

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for somer eason

feral verge
#

...vet

spice veldt
#

yeah; though flamers take 3x melee damage so I just run them down

feral verge
#

Can we ban this guy

wide tiger
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😄

feral verge
#

No vet players please

spice veldt
feral verge
#

Psyker chat is a safe space from vet degeneracy

wide tiger
spice veldt
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i have a lvl 30 vet with like 70 hours on it

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until I learned that Psyker could block bullets

wide tiger
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I mean vet can too, take the 75% DR and go in perma ult

feral verge
#

I have a level 11 vet

wide tiger
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toughness blocks bullets

feral verge
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With like 5 hours

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Don't play it

spice veldt
#

i was actually saddened to go from 200 toughness to 100 toughness

wide tiger
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I absolutely adore being able to stand in the middle of the field with a ton of shooters shooting at me and just laugh it off

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and return fire, i dont even need to block

leaden thunder
#

vet moment

wide tiger
#

Coming from psyker it was quite an awakeninng

feral verge
#

Imagine stacking stamina regen on vet

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Then its one weakness would be largely negated

wide tiger
#

I did that for deadshot

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36% stam regen

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its alright

leaden thunder
#

i actually want stam regen on my vet

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even without using deadshot

feral verge
#

Tbh I would play vet if there was a personality I really liked

wide tiger
#

I did health curios, toughness/tough regen/stam regen perks

feral verge
#

Imagine toughness stacking lol

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Brought to you by HP stacking gang

wide tiger
#

toughness perks give more value than health perks

leaden thunder
#

they have hp curios

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but toughness perk on them

feral verge
#

Ik

wide tiger
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because you can have hp curios that give 21%, but toughness curious give 17%, but both perks give 5%

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So i just went purely mathematical value wise

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honestly either health or toughness perk is fine

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the priority was tough regen/stam regen

spice veldt
#

if snipers didn't exist, I would stack toughness

wide tiger
#

on my vet its rare i get nabbed by a sniper

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on my zealot sometimes though

olive ember
spice veldt
#

hounds -- don't get hit
bursters -- don't get hit
mutants -- don't get hit

#

ez

wide tiger
#

but snipers -- facetank with hp? 😛

spice veldt
#

yes

wide tiger
#

roger

spice veldt
#

i literally do not have the reaction time for them lol

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for whatever reason, I can't build for muscle memory for snipers

wide tiger
#

I find hounds the worst because i actually try to dodge out of reflex

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annd it never works

olive ember
cyan portal
#

dodge, dodge snipers dogs and mutants, push bursters.

pearl lion
#

Im guessing you arent a VT vet then haha

wide tiger
#

i basically have the same problem with dogs that you have with snipers

spice veldt
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hehe

wide tiger
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i try to dodge dogs and it never works

spice veldt
#

hounds are actually pretty fine for me cuz of the force sword

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i can just light-special them as they leap for me

olive ember
#

mutants and hounds have funny ping hitboxes

pearl lion
#

Dodging + block when you hear the backstab sound becomes second nature after awhile. Sniper has the same thing going on

wide tiger
#

yeah if i remembered to just swing my weapon at hounds instead id be so much better off

olive ember
#

snipers have funny invisi instant lasers

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bursters have my teammates

wide tiger
#

Im pretty sure what can happen is a sniper can lock onto a team mate

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and then if the team mate dodges

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he instaswitches and fires

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and you dont get the beam

cyan portal
#

its actually when they los the sniper

pearl lion
#

Ive never had a clear answer to this actually

wide tiger
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Cause i had one time where i walked through a door on my psyker and got instadeleted

olive ember
#

I mean idrc how it happens

wide tiger
#

was a good laugh

olive ember
#

it just happens

pearl lion
#

Do Trappers sound like they shoot multiple times for you?

wide tiger
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only if they get stagger locked

olive ember
#

not rly, unless maybe you staggered em mid windup or wte

wide tiger
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and reset

pearl lion
#

Cause when they're prepping a shot I hear the shot sound and then when they actually shoot I hear it again

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I've been caught out dodging on the first sound

olive ember
#

I mean I base it off timing

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so I hear the windup and I use that as timing

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more than the actual shot sound

pearl lion
#

If im not facing them/dont know they're there, I'll dodge if I hear it

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And then the shot sound plays immediately again

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well like 2 seconds later

#

Maybe I should verify my game files or something, its quite annoying. Been this way since release though

rich rose
olive ember
#

🤔 tbh i don't really recall hearing a double shot

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tho tbh at this point I'm like half spaced out when playing darktide

spice veldt
#

yeah I only hear the double shot when they get staggered right before they shoot

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presumably your teammate shot the trapper or something

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if you play with friends, maybe they're gaslighting you or something

elder rain
#

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olive ember
#

fucking axe user

cold geode
#

yep, those are axes

elder rain
#

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olive ember
#

I forget how important penetration is on axes tbh

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they are pretty similar tbh one has more pene one has more crit

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so imo its up to blessings

elder rain
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olive ember
#

of which both are kinda meh

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ideally you want atleast two t3 blessings, and I believe axe meta is BM and headtaker or decimator

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tho thats for the antax idk if its any different with the mk 8

elder rain
#

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lunar hollow
#

brutal momentum

fierce sinew
#

the more of those I see the less time I have for the "high modifiers = high blessing tier" speculation

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whatever relationship there is (if any) has to be so minor

wide tiger
#

All my high profane items get to perks :p

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T2

tough trail
#

when you blow up will it one hit specialists or will i need to get them low first

#

?

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for penance

unborn drift
#

I'm not sure if it's because my level was too low or because there's damage falloff with distance but I had to hit mine a bit for it to work

cyan notch
olive ember
#

supposedly you should be able to kill em with just the explosion on malice

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but its jank AF and the explosion falloff range is very harsh

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so yeah

spice veldt
#

group hugs

feral verge
#

30 missions away from life leech 5 (250 missions as psyker)

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last penance

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i've finally been trying out quietitude

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i actually kinda like it

fiery atlas
#

i have decided to become brainblasting maniac main

feral verge
#

malice might be harder than damnation

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cuz ur fighting the hordes of nurgle AND your team

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we have sometihng from our very on pygex

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@whoever just made that post asking for a writeup guide

agile garden
feral verge
#

nw

olive ember
feral verge
#

@agile garden this is what im running on damnation and im having alot of fun and success

olive cairn
feral verge
olive ember
#

how does it feel to have clueless teammates

feral verge
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its bizarre

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alls people have to really do is stick together

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if they can do that, that's 75% of the battle

olive ember
olive cairn
#

For entertainment, yez

olive ember
#

man my MetaPsykerTM build runs columnus cuz its a meme gun

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but I think the laspistol stands out more

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like its easier for people to see you using a laspistol

olive cairn
#

Running meme builds in damnation gets a GLHF from me

olive ember
#

I'm surprised the Pygex guide isn't pinned

olive ember
#

mmm heresy game

feral verge
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Lol

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Going well

fiery atlas
#

Someone pissed off a daemonhost and when I BB'd it went invis

grizzled iris
#

The most ammo efficient team out there xD
1 purgatus, 1 voidstrike and 2x Trauma staffs

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Damnation btw

rocky cedar
#

Sounds like an extremely comfy team comp

agile garden
#

Is there something for best blessing per weapon? I am trying to decide on how to go with a rapier, flurry seems buggy

rocky cedar
#

For duelling sword rampage + uncanny is usually what you want

lavish forge
#

Whats a good roll for a Dueling sword and Trauma staff for Psyker and a good build to go with it?

agile garden
#

Also trying to figure out good melee weapons that combo well with each staff.

fierce sinew
#

Purg-antax surge-antax void-antax trauma-antax

rocky cedar
#

Trauma is armour agnostic so run whatever melee you like with it

agile garden
fierce sinew
#

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

rocky cedar
#

Antax is V bro

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Or were you joining in on the joke?

agile garden
#

No I thought antax was the tac axe

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All the names confuse me

rocky cedar
#

IMO

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Purg: knife, Caxe, FS

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All roughly equally good options

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Void pretty much the same

agile garden
#

Yeah I like the feel of antax. I cannot get into force sword.. feels bad to use

rocky cedar
#

Surge probably anything that kills fast to make up for Surge

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So like bromo Caxe or power stacking force sword

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Trauma I just like to have mobility to pair with it

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I enjoy DS and chainsword but again Trauma does decent damage to every armour type so run it with whatever you like

fierce sinew
#

Antax is just a numerically overtuned do everything weapon, mobility is the main reason to use anything else imo (DSV, knife)

agile garden
#

The push attack throws me off my loop. I heard the horde clear rotation was light, heavy, blockpushshove repeat. But once I got that block push shove it throws me. Also the sometimes tipping me into blowing up sucks too

rocky cedar
#

Chainsword is good for finishing off elites your trauma knocked on their ass

lavish forge
rocky cedar
#

For Caxe V?

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You literally just mash M1

lavish forge
rocky cedar
#

Ohhhhhhhh

fierce sinew
#

You can skip the shove usually

rocky cedar
#

Yeah just block cancel

agile garden
lavish forge
rocky cedar
#

Or with enough power stacking you can probably just mash light or heavy into a horde with FS and get away with it

lavish forge
agile garden
#

So what blessing and perks do you want on DSV, blade, combat axe? (And fs I guess)

rocky cedar
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DS V: rampage + uncanny

fiery atlas
#

I have a force sword now

fiery atlas
#

This will be very funny

rocky cedar
#

Knife: uncanny + whatever(probably executor or something)

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Caxe: bromo + decimator

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Trauma: Warp Flurry + Rending

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Force sword: Slaughter + preference

agile garden
#

The push attack is a start of chain then everything is always a new chain

spice veldt
#

i had a fun time learning that assassination bosses regenerate their shield slowly if they aren't hit every-so-often like our toughness

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thought I could just leave him alone as I whittled down the horde that spawned but no

hot agate
#

what blessings should i shoot for on trauma?

agile garden
#

Rending

hot agate
#

got this rn, not the best but ive played this game for 500 hours and havent touched psyker except to level to 30 KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

warp flurry, focused channelling, rending shockwave

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perks are meh but at least you got warp flurry

hot agate
#

what perks to shoot for as well?

spice veldt
#

+unarmoured is the highest priority for dreg enemies

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and +flak as secondary priority for shotgunners/gunners (yes, dreg shotgunners/gunners have a base armour type of flak for some reason)

hot agate
#

aight thanks friend

spice veldt
#

since you'll want to use your trauma staff as an anti-shooter staff

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and if you want to spec particularly hard for anti-shooters, replace terrifying barrage with focused channelling instead of rending shockwave

fresh sky
#

I wish there were more weapon guides stickied with optimal perks / blessings

spice veldt
#

a centralized resource would be nice

pastel quiver
#

whats good on purgatas staff blessing wise?

fiery atlas
#

Ok force sword is actually funny

rocky cedar
#

Push attack is noticeably weaker than normal lights

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You should be avoiding push attack where possible

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To spam lights

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Which is made much much worse by limbsplitter

spice veldt
#

For the first 3 targets cleaved by the lights or push-attacks, the net damage they do is comparable. However, push-attack has a minimum cleave damage of 0. Beyond the 3rd target, it will do 0 damage to every other target.
The light attacks on the other hand have a nonzero minimum cleave damage.
So you'll want to prioritize light attacks for hordeclear,.

near wyvern
idle bay
#

Does anyone have experience of getting a random player in team that just keep blabbering some nonsense in mic, while foulmouthing everyone in a team?
Yesterday i've got one of those 🙂
Only problem was - broken UI was not showing for a while who was that. So it took a while to mic symbol to pop near his portrait for immidiate vote-kick

rocky cedar
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No thankfully

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Everyone I've run into that actually used voice has been good

wet jacinth
#

"You're pretty good"

idle bay
#

Anyway, beautiful morning here. Blue sky, bright sun, warm -7C weather with a light breeze:)

robust relic
#

best blessings/perks for a purg staff? what are ppls opinions?

cold geode
#

@rocky cedar whats that gunker build with the auto pistol you've been playing around with?

fiery atlas
#

Trauma staff is solid so far

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Surprised it can do as much dmg for a lil baby psyker

buoyant furnace
#

Should I stick with Slaughterer over Blazing Spirit? Having trouble deciding on good blessing to go with deflector

robust relic
buoyant furnace
#

I know just wondering if I should work for another

fiery atlas
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Unless you're dead set on using force sword more than staff

fresh sky
#

Blazing spirit seems to suck from my experience.

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Slaughter is really good

rocky cedar
# cold geode <@180582276671864833> whats that gunker build with the auto pistol you've been p...

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spice veldt
#

slaughterer is pretty much the best blessing on the force sword if you want to use it for hordeclear

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or as a power stick for purgatus

rocky cedar
#

W & R probably also a legitimate choice over inner tranq if you like it

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Oh also knife probably isn't optimal pairing but I enjoy it and with uncanny it's a solid crusher deleter

cyan notch
#

i use wrack and cerebral but otherwise same

rocky cedar
#

Yeah Cerebral helps cover your boss weakness which is really nice

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I'm just lazy

fresh sky
#

I’d just use a bromentum axe

rocky cedar
#

I do need to actually experiment with W&R and see how I actually like it

fresh sky
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For crushers but also horde clear

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It’s a solid all rounder

rocky cedar
#

If horde gets dense enough for it to be a worry autopistol is honestly super efficient for that

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But yeah everyone knows bromo Antax is S tier for everything

fresh sky
#

I wish that wasn’t the case. Weapon diversity would be more fun

rocky cedar
#

You might be surprised how quick uncanny knife push attack spam butchers Crushers though

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It's like 6 push attacks (to head) average to kill one, probably less with executor

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Or lucky crits

fresh sky
#

I just lean to slow weapons because fast weapons give me carpal

rocky cedar
#

Takes about 3 seconds or something silly

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Also you have KB though so you don't really have to spec against crushers if you don't want to

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Finally bothered making a good Caxe with bromo + decimator and yeah it's pretty silly

cyan notch
robust relic
#

why do ppl take stamina curios? psyker stamina returns basically instantly, you can chain push forever

viral solstice
#

intimidation factor

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ppl on ur team see 150hp 100 toughness and 2 wounds

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and they know theyre dealing with some fucker whose stamina bar looks like a fuckin ruler

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that inspires fear

spice veldt
#

if you don't consume the full stamina needed, then your pushes are weaker; this means that you might not be able to stagger enemies like shotgunners with your pushes, and the stagger is significantly shorter on the enemies that you do stagger

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On weapons with good push efficiency (Duelling Swords, Combat Blade, Force Sword), they have lower max stamina in exchange. Of course, two of those options (Duelling Swords, Combat Blade) have their default block cost cut in half.

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But for the Force Sword, the default block cost is 50% higher than usual

viral solstice
#

this is nothing to do with the reason tho, the actual reason is this.

#

u see that

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i get a shiver just seeing it

twilit badger
#

Or maybe psyker wanted to use deflector blessing without taking feat that change stamina cost to peril cost

viral solstice
#

tbf thats probs underrated

#

chad move

near wyvern
viral solstice
#

u knopw what else makes melee combat trivial

near wyvern
#

My skillz

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🔥

viral solstice
#

i was going to say having friends who are supportive

rocky cedar
#

To my understanding KD peril generation seems to kind of scale with max stam

near wyvern
#

That's what's in the lua yea

rocky cedar
#

One stam curio makes me feel like I can guarantee revives under almost any amount of pressure

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That's why I value having it

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Getting guaranteed revives feels game changing sometimes

summer prairie
#

If you don't use your stamina for pushing much, you can skip kd and just run one stamina curio and it's not too different.

#

Probably makes sense for voidstrike

rocky cedar
#

I'm struggling to imagine knife with +3 stamina having nearly as easy a time without KD

spice veldt
#

push-attacks smh

summer prairie
#

Well if you push attack obviously it's not the same

rocky cedar
#

I dunno when I'm running other melee again I'll see how things feel without KD

summer prairie
#

But kd knife with no stamina is effectively 10 stamina though the ult also changes things

rocky cedar
#

But you still get the stamina to block with after the peril is maxed out by KD so no question it's significantly improving what you can get away with regardless

spice veldt
#

taking a single +3 stam without KD feels fine to me with the force sword, but I also stack all three stamina perks on my curios

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
#

Heyyyyy LMAO

viral solstice
#

hell yeah

#

make that shred t5, put 5% crit on instead of unarmoured (u cant let down the theme)

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and go hard as fuck

ornate hamlet
#

unarmored is locked for the carapace

viral solstice
#

rip

#

but still

#

chad loadout

#

time to crit

ornate hamlet
#

Yup

#

Finesse is the crit dmg stat too

#

so im uber hype

#

attack speed suffered a bit, but the crit dmg rolls were pretty juicy

#

Now time to work on getting my stubber revolver

rocky cedar
#

That's max finesse bro what

#

You can't roll higher than that

ornate hamlet
#

See those values in grey?

#

It means that with the max roll, they could have been those max values, depending what their counterpart rolled.

rocky cedar
#

Yes because they're assigned for a stat of 100 at max

#

And your stats don't go above 80

#

So no you are literally maxed

ornate hamlet
#

I think you're missing it.

viral solstice
ornate hamlet
#

\Light attack critical/ ws power could've gone up to 1.25

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Had HV/Lght atk spd been lower, they could've gone higher

rocky cedar
#

No they can't lol

viral solstice
#

no those values are just lerped between 0 and 100 and the max value shown is the value at 100

rocky cedar
#

That's not how stats work

ornate hamlet
#

Then why post the max in grey like that/

#

Doesnt make sense.

viral solstice
#

because the orange tier isnt the max tier

rocky cedar
#

Your DS is maxed in both attack speed and crit multipliers

viral solstice
#

theres going to be a tier with 100%

#

its just not in yet

#

but they set the items up to have the 100 so u get horny for the big boi items

rocky cedar
#

Yeah most likely because we will have access to 100 stat weapons one day

cyan notch
viral solstice
#

but ye 0.75 + 80% of 0.5 (the 0-100 range)

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is indeed 1.15

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true true they will never let u hit 100

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fatshark are just going to dangle it in front of us

ornate hamlet
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huh

viral solstice
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forever

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the fat shark....

ornate hamlet
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THey really need to communicate better

rocky cedar
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I don't think it's guaranteed that there will be 100 stat weapons

cyan notch
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until they say something i aint gonna take it as "its coming one day"

ornate hamlet
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Because this shit is fucking counterintuitive.

rocky cedar
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But it's definitely a solid possibility

spice veldt
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maybe they really like the number 80

viral solstice
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actually

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im the fat shark

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and i can confirm its coming

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any question

ornate hamlet
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Yes

rocky cedar
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Anyway enjoy your maxed finesse DS with the knowledge it is indeed maxed

ornate hamlet
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When does this whole system make sense?

viral solstice
spice veldt
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in 3 years

viral solstice
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well

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it makes perfect sense to me

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because ive slept 4 hours

viral solstice
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in the last 40

ornate hamlet
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You don't dev your game for you; you dev for the audience.

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eh

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thinks

viral solstice
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now if i had slept more

rocky cedar
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Crab go to bed

viral solstice
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i did

rocky cedar
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For fucks sake

viral solstice
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i woke up

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and lay there for 4 hours

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before giving up

spice veldt
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i'm surprised you're functioning

fierce sinew
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telling the audience to get fucked is a chad move tbh

viral solstice
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insomnia is a motherfucker

fierce sinew
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respect

viral solstice
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i mean thats the secret

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im never functioning

cyan notch
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Just Sleep Lol

rocky cedar
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Crab is a higher being

ornate hamlet
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I sleep 4 hrs a day every day for the past 16 years.

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PTSD is a bitch.

viral solstice
cyan notch
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Have You Tried Just Closing Your Eyes

viral solstice
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Yes But Then All I See Is The Pizza I Could Be Having

ornate hamlet
viral solstice
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im old greeeeeeeeeg

ornate hamlet
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Those words came to my head when I read what you wrote

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"Im gonna hurt you." lmao

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16 years...

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Never thought of just closing my eyes

cyan notch
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i dont understand that reference

ornate hamlet
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Last one is just a meme

cyan notch
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no the dude with the lipstick

ornate hamlet
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Oh.

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Here...

viral solstice
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its from the mighty boosh

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surreal bbc sketch comedy from like 15 years ago

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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its fun

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This was a big meme in early 2010s

tribal swallow
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this one seems pretty good, no?

fading heath
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insta buy right?

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Now do i wanna roll crit chance or weakspot dmg

ornate hamlet
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Just ran a mission with it

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Nothing touched me in melee

spice veldt
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+weakspot is not good because of how it's calculated

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if a weapon does 100 base dmg and does 120 on a weakspot hit, then +10% weakspot will give you 2 damage because it's adding 10% of 20, not 120

ornate hamlet
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What blessing should I replace on this thing?

frail berry
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raking fire imo

ornate hamlet
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With?

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Thinking blaze away

frail berry
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that is what I have heard suggested before here

ornate hamlet
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Or cavalcade

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Going with blaze cuz thats 50% dmg if I hold it down (at tier III)

rocky cedar
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Blaze + Pinning is what you want

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Ideally a higher tier pinning cause it does a lot of the heavy lifting

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But I know with the system so have that's much easier to say than do....

steel egret
twilit badger
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Cavacade is trash blessing

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You don't want it on any guns that can roll it

viral solstice