if only we could fly like that
#psyker-class
feral verge
doggy space mission
cyan notch
i went flying once sideways tho
dusky grail
i went flying once sideways tho
love it when that happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwbDgjyqa4
feral verge
lol
cyan notch
viral solstice
forest coral
feral verge
totally avoidable
viral solstice
dusky grail
I held S for a second and my game interpreted that as me wanting to go mach 1
feral verge
incredibly rookie mistake
dusky grail
should've activated my air brakes
forest coral
Has anyone been bonked through the floor by crusher yet
grizzled jasper
love it when that happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwbDgjyqa4
Skill issue obviously
echo turtle
Well, I upgraded another 3 force swords to gold today, still none of the rank 4 blessings I wanted popped up :/
cyan notch
still dont have deflector 4
viral solstice
downgrading squad unite
feral verge
once you have decent-good stuff, upgrading isn't worth it
just save your mats till they fix it (HOPEFULLY)
wishful thinking ik but
viral solstice
actually its very worth it if u have good goals (u want fire sword)
if ur goals are lame (damage) then u will be sad. but fire sword ppl will never be disappoint
forest coral
CRAB IT TAKES TOO MUCH TO MAKE FIRE SWORD
viral solstice
no
dont give up
fire sword need strugle
the hottest fire sword is forged in the uhhh
cyan notch
is there t4 blazing?
feral verge
temper thyself in the forge
viral solstice
biggest waste of plasteel?
i think thats a phrase
its like surge
i need surge because my dream is to do surge w/ blazing spirit
so 1 in every 10 shots
i fire fiery blob
this cannot go wrong
feral verge
i want bloodthirsty, t4 warp flurry on void and trauma, and t4 riposte and shred
warp flurry the most
wide tiger
i need surge because my dream is to do surge w/ blazing spirit
Yeah but its not like you get extra blazing spirit stacks from it
its still just like critting without the surge 😦
wide tiger
👍
viral solstice
i do about 75% of my optimised staff with my meme staff and given that surge is probably about the same effectiveness as my meme staff i have zero qualms
about ruini- uhh joining ppls games
wide tiger
As long as you're having fun 😛
viral solstice
and making sure my team arent
last man alive
gotta keep ur team on their toes
wide tiger
nice timing
I mean i just ran on my vet with 2 psykers with purg staff in a hunting grounds 5
viral solstice
u have a tiny window to do it
if ur too slow u will die and ppl will not respect ur dedication to the bit
wide tiger
they managed to blow the zealot and I off the ledge with a barrel, and everytime the hounds came they'd hide behind doors and close them and wait for us to clear the hounds
pretty big troll
ended up with like 250k damage between the two of them and zealot and I had 350k each. long mission
viral solstice
ive tried it before and theres nothing more disappointing than not killing it
viral solstice
i need to get one on a dog
but now ive found out why i was killing so many dogs
its space time
spice veldt
nice showcase of animal cruelty
restive talon
hrm...blaze sword with t4 slaughterer or stub revolver with t4 trickshooter
safe crystal
Im not exactly sure what happened here, i think it has something to do with the space dog 'fix'
echo turtle
after using the sword and flame staff for a while I used my axe and gun again
jfc I felt drunk with power
echo turtle
mk3 hh goddam fucks
I scored higher than both vets in the party and I play on a controller
Brutal momentum really does come intonplay in the hordes with rhw light swings
viral solstice
echo turtle
Barely notice with the oush block, but the light chain, holy cowza
restive talon
rocky cedar
Gun Psyker fucks
restive talon
that worth buying?
rocky cedar
Damn yeah that looks pretty excellent
spice veldt
holy shit
restive talon
tbh i've kinda strayed away from FS but figure i should give it a try
spice veldt
t4 slaughterer
rocky cedar
Kind of insane honestly
cyan notch
swap warp res with first target
viral solstice
? are u guys high it doesnt have bloodthirsty OR blazing spirit hello?
how do u set ppl on fire with that
spice veldt
AND IT HAS +MANIAC
viral solstice
smh guys cmon
rocky cedar
Yeah that might be the most godly Melk item I have ever laid eyes on
It's definitely up there
restive talon
alright, thnx pals
viral solstice
melk has offered me one (1) staff in the last 7 refreshes
it was a trauma
otherwise its just been godlike headhunters
spice veldt
smh
viral solstice
i only want one thing tho
well 2 things
surge and bloodthirsty
and i will get them
use them for one mission
then move on
to a new meme
thank u melk for mercy killer 4 uncanny strike 4 ghost 4 BUT I DUN WAN DEEZ
cyan notch
deez nuts lmao
restive talon
dude i'd love to be able to use autogun as psyker effectively(and not have to worry about getting kicked from group). i just love the feel and sound of the rapid fire version
restive talon
twilit flicker
shoot them a wink and then clutch the game with your sick skills
dawn warren
Does staff/BB receive the bonus from Slaughter (+power on kill) on a melee weapon? Also do the crediting kills have to come from that melee weapon?
safe crystal
As long as the weapon that has slaughterer is equipped, doesnt matter what you use to kill an enemy, as long as its your kill. (For example, you can set things on fire with purgatus, then switch to your melee) Not sure about stack behaviour when you switch out of it, though. I'd assume you lose the stacks
cyan notch
if ur not on the floor half the game i dont think people mind what you bring
digital loom
actually i'm not sure about that, i keep finding new ways to make people angry
wide tiger
if ur not on the floor half the game i dont think people mind what you bring
Shieldgryn Never Die only absorb all damage
Muahahha
dense panther
does anyone know how to upgrade mods?
gilded quail
actually i'm not sure about that, i keep finding new ways to make people angry
i dont doubt that
twilit flicker
slightly annoyed, today i did an insane clutch and the recording only started after i reached the team to revive them - because i had it set to record the last two minutes, i changed it to 5 after ... still might not have been enough
feral verge
does anyone know how to upgrade mods?
what do you mean
dense panther
what do you mean
after most recent patch, my mods don't work any more
feral verge
you just click on toggle_darktide_mods.bat again
digital loom
i dont doubt that
do you know what the key is?
dense panther
slightly annoyed, today i did an insane clutch and the recording only started af...
at least you know in your heart
dense panther
you just click on toggle_darktide_mods.bat again
i love you, you're beautiful
feral verge
np
twilit flicker
my brother was there, and the ogryn gave me a nice compliment " you might be the best psyker ever"
gilded quail
do you know what the key is?
a sharp tongue
twilit flicker
i know its not true, but i would be lying if i said i was [complete] trash
twilit flicker
hopefully, i can be trash in your heart
twilit flicker
proof that ogryns are nice, this was after clearing the downstairs area of several reapers and gunners
grizzled iris
Psyker Weapon Tier List Patch 1.0.36
wide tiger
wait mkII dueling sword A but V and IV bad? 😮
olive ember
so um
was warp flurry every fixed on purge and surge
cuz someone said it did
and then someone else said it didn't
and yeah
grizzled iris
It is not fixed yet, but when it is it will be the best for it. But currently you can run w/e second blessing on it
olive ember
fun
cyan notch
its atrox tac axe not atrax
defences on mkv ds aint the dump stat
mob like the others imo
cyan notch
also charge rate dump for void and trauma is questionable
summer prairie
A lot of questionable on the list but can't be an expert on every weapon
grizzled iris
also charge rate dump for void and trauma is questionable
Charge Rate at 60 and 80 is a difference of 0.05 seconds, you won't feel that neither will your peril
cyan notch
why is “atrax” 4 tac axe b when the rest are d
fierce sinew
would be interesting to see something like this that was an aggregate of scoreboard data over time
cyan notch
why would u take wrath and shred on chainsword too when savage sweep does more
fierce sinew
rather than the "just some internet shitter's opinions" standard tier list methodology
bold flint
peril powergaming?
grizzled iris
its atrox tac axe not atrax
Thank you for the tip
summer prairie
The scoreboard isn't reliable at all for damage
bold flint
clear heath
Psyker Weapon Tier List Patch 1.0.36
Would rather dump warp res than mobility on fs
Had a 13% mobility force sword and never again
summer prairie
Would rather dump damage stats when they don't matter for breakpoints
fierce sinew
the only thing I know the scoreboard definitely doesn't track is the revive state things and everything that goes on therein
viral solstice
damage mindsety
summer prairie
Overkill is most important stat
viral solstice
grizzled iris
why is “atrax” 4 tac axe b when the rest are d
Because of its light move set, Mk 2 requires you to spam heavys to horde clear and maintain shred stacks which isn't always possible and Mk 7 requires you to make use of push attacks or have a wonky rotation. They aren't "player friendly" so to speak
viral solstice
i enarly hit 50:50 damage overkill
summer prairie
You get yellows on the scoreboard
half anvil
hey guys, whats a good map for me to blow myself on (for the penance)?
grizzled iris
In the hands of an expert they are the same tier, but if you were an expert you wouldn't need a tier list
half anvil
lmao blow myself UP
fierce sinew
In the hands of an expert they are the same tier, but if you were an expert you ...
this is exactly the opposite of the point of a tierlist
viral solstice
not for the penance its just how i roll
i mean not sure how this helps but u know
food for thought
i think before u work up to the penance u gotta work on explosion reses, tactical suicides to kill muties, etc
u know the small, essential moves that make psykers such a powerful presence in darktide
half anvil
ofc
viral solstice
cyan notch
Because of its light move set, Mk 2 requires you to spam heavys to horde clear a...
shred isnt even listed for those
half anvil
I'd like to attempt it, but its hard to stop playing the shredder vet
clear heath
Anyone else think block eff is an overrated stat to have as a fs perk?
I like it as a curio stat, but i wouldn't ditch 25% more damage on an enemy type for it on a weapon
fierce sinew
curio is the spot for it
grizzled iris
defences on mkv ds aint the dump stat
Defences is the dump stat due to it reducing push cost and sprint cost which you don't care about due to your 0.5 stamina regen, meanwhile Mobility increases your sprint speed
viral solstice
yeah i mean u need important stuff on ur fs, like %crit chance in order to proc ur blazing spirit
u cant afford block eff
grizzled iris
shred isnt even listed for those
Ah, sorry were refering to my Zealot tier list. It is mainly due to the lack of Light spam to win
spice veldt
Charge Rate at 60 and 80 is a difference of 0.05 seconds, you won't feel that ne...
the difference between 60 and 80 charge rate for the trauma staff is 0.3 seconds
it scales from 2.5 to 1.0 seconds unlike voidstrike's 1.6-1.3 seconds
with +25% unarmoured at 60% damage (360), you will hit the 450 breakpoint for dreg bruisers
charge rate is not the dumpstat for the trauma staff; damage is
cyan notch
Defences is the dump stat due to it reducing push cost and sprint cost which you...
it also affects block cost and those costs are more important than just sprint speed imo
also savage sweep on chainsword seems just miles ahead of wrath
shadow wigeon
Has anyone tried the Show All Buffs mod, and knows whether it's accurate?
viral solstice
it seems accurate from what ive tested
i havent seen it do anything that wildly disagrees with lua
but more importantly
summer prairie
The combat blade info seems to be just copied from the zealot list
viral solstice
i would be surprised if they actually made it differ because it wouldf require effort
spice veldt
only bug I can spot is that the bloodthirsty blessing doesn't pop up as a buff icon at all
seems pretty good
viral solstice
like if u wanted to fake shit like number of crucian stacks u would need to either find an alternative info source for the buff than what the game is doing or like
summer prairie
Show all buffs isn't always accurate yeah
viral solstice
simulate the logic urself?
so u can miss things but if ur seeing shit gettin updated its unlikely to be straight up wrong
spice veldt
crucian roullete propaganda perhaps
viral solstice
i know its peril shit is rite at least
cos i bug reported that ages ago
uhh
havent checked much but mostly seems fine
spice veldt
many moons ago
shadow wigeon
The icons for Warp Nexus are either wrong, or the stacks apply weirdly
clear heath
Has anyone tried the Show All Buffs mod, and knows whether it's accurate?
Holy shit this is a thing now? I've been waiting for this to become a mod
viral solstice
yeah miles thats completely correct
basically in the lua theres a warp level system by default which is like low high critical extreme
clear heath
warp nexus does have weird stack thresholds
viral solstice
but for psykers when they cloned the table they set low at 0.3 high at 0.5 critical at 0.97 and extreme at 0.97
clear heath
30% 50% 97% 97% right?
viral solstice
and i think u can spot the mistake there
the default for the archetype is 0.8/0.97
and 0.2 not 0.3 but eh who cares
grizzled iris
also savage sweep on chainsword seems just miles ahead of wrath
Chainsword is a light attack spammer, it performs best with it. Wrath allows you to hit the breakpoint to hit the flak that you can damage with the cleave it gives and it makes your cleave on heavies go from 6 to 12 while savage makes it go from 6 to 18, you will rarely hit those numbers with the low range the weapon offers. Wrath can also be stacked on any number of enemies while savage sweep requires 3 or more
shadow wigeon
That makes Nexus not that thrilling then, at least until that's fixed.
viral solstice
well i mean
clear heath
just assume that you'll usually have like 2 stacks
shadow wigeon
unless ur a 100 peril Gamer
i will learn the wae
fierce sinew
not thrilling and still BiS
clear heath
the thing is, the other blessings for surge and purg suck ass
there is no competition
fierce sinew
the absolute state of staff blessings smh
shadow wigeon
Yeah
viral solstice
to be fair u shouldnt use those staves anyway because they are boring (objectively*)
*based on my objective opinion
so really its ok
im sorry it says right here that its objective fact
u cant argue with the facts
grizzled iris
charge rate is not the dumpstat for the trauma staff; damage is
Could you join strike team 50 I'd like to ask you a few things.
shadow wigeon
but for psykers when they cloned the table they set low at 0.3 high at 0.5 criti...
You woulda thought this would be an easy fix... I wonder what's up with that.
summer prairie
I reported that in January I think
viral solstice
like i dont think 99.9% of ppl know
shadow wigeon
the absolute state of staff blessings smh
Yeah that's pretty funny, hah - to agonize over T4's and then see that.
viral solstice
u would have to look in the lua to realise
because the only other way to find it out
shadow wigeon
like i dont think 99.9% of ppl know
Well, not anymore
viral solstice
would be to use warp nexus
go "hmm im critting 4-5% less than i should be if this was divided evenly"
then go test it manually
and do the pdf inference
shadow wigeon
Well anyone with the mod will see it now
cyan notch
Chainsword is a light attack spammer, it performs best with it. Wrath allows you...
interesting i usually heavy for horde
shadow wigeon
Ok, turns out I've probably been benefitting for 4 stacks of nexus on surge a fair bit, at least.
what a silly bug
cyan notch
u can go crit chainsword too on zealot
shred ds?
viral solstice
i mean its really just shred + whatever u want its more about the fairly decent base crit properties of the sword, the zealot baseline crit synergy and slappy slappy
ees goony
plus the slightly uh
"interesting"
way cleave fallof is distributed in various attacks
summer prairie
Critical_threshold used to be 0.9 but was changed to 0.97 due to it also being used for the safe casting threshold. But extreme_threshold is also used for it in some cases, I believe
lunar hollow
BIG E PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
I DONT WANT FUCKING AUTOGUNS
STOP GIVING ME THEM
summer prairie
so it's slightly more effort than just changing the percentage, but not much
cyan notch
Critical_threshold used to be 0.9 but was changed to 0.97 due to it also being u...
yea peril blocking used to stop at 90 but now its 97
viral solstice
i mean broadly the issue is the templating is disgusting
if u actually chase back that shit thru the components and the way its passed
its just like
theres also zero reason - literally zero - it should be using the thresholds
what they did is put in the thresholds, then decide they would share them for diff purposes for no reason other than they could
the funniest part is that if u look in the blessing code
its basically just taking it in and it could just ask... for the warpcharge... value...
then do wahtever it wants with it
the only reason this is a problem is because they chose to ask for the thresholds
basically programming is a crime
and we should all just write books about our adventures
summer prairie
it makes some marginal sense to use thresholds if your peril sfxs are tied to them too
cyan notch
but then we wouldnt have zombie game
viral solstice
but we would have the theatre of our imagination
rocky cedar
As long as the weapon that has slaughterer is equipped, doesnt matter what you u...
I've tested slaughterer stacks and swapping. Swapping weapon doesn't break stacks, they'll still be there if you swap back quickly but I'm pretty sure the duration is still ticking down while you have your ranged weapon out
viral solstice
well, if u have already moved ur threshold from 90% to 97% for a functional purpose, eliding an entire category
then u already kinda like
broken the entire concept of modelling it as having this separate coherent peril stage concept
summer prairie
yeah that was just a hack when people were randomly blowing up during the open beta
viral solstice
its all very "cmon lads ur using lua lets just get down in the filth"
like they had bugs that were literally from null table entries not throwing errors
fuck it go nuts nobody will know
or will they
i remember talking to a phd student about lua in like 2011 because they were doing some computational model using it
and the deep emotional damage caused by his explanation of functions in that language
maybe we can recover in time
long wharf
the fundamental basis for Lua is "Hmm, we need a scripting language and has no concept of type safety and we can set anything to anything at any time"
long wharf
"Oh, and it needs to be able to access C libraries"
you have three kinds of objects in Lua
table, function, and variable
olive ember
are we in our weekly "why is the code so shit whyyy" session
olive ember
did you learn anything cool about dolphins
long wharf
they rape porpoises
shadow wigeon
are we in our weekly "why is the code so shit whyyy" session
It was related to understanding the thresholds for when blessings like nexus apply, and that they mostly don't apply.
olive ember
XD
olive ember
they rape porpoises
huh
long wharf
idle shuttle
hollow spruce
best blessings for force swords?
idle shuttle
best blessings for force swords?
back in my day it was said to be deflector
and the other one was w/e
near wyvern
best blessings for force swords?
Bloodlust and slaughterer
Deflector is training wheels
dense ivy
Psyker. Buffs. When.
Deflector sucks because enemies don’t treat it as melee
If a zealot dashes into the middle of a shooter patrol they all whip out their swords
If a psyker block walks into a shooter patrol they all keep shooting unless you’re actively touching them
It also only protects from the front in 90 degrees, it’s almost always just better to dive for cover than use deflector.
spice veldt
that's probably just because of proximity, since the shooters farthest away from you aren't close enough to make them melee; like you said, it's better to be in the center of a shooter patrol to be closest to all shooters
torn shadow
check this out
spice veldt
i used to be too afraid to dive into the center of stalkers/shooters until I realized that it's really all or nothing
spice veldt
surge works on the RMB of voidstrike but not the RMB of trauma
near wyvern
@lament glen I am making a montage and I own the Darkride Soundtrack, can I use the original soundtrack for the music or will I get copyright ripped to sewers?
twilit badger
lament glen
<@237832805504122881> I am making a montage and I own the Darkride Soundtrack, c...
I have utterly no idea. A personal use license is generally different from a production/business license though, so I have to assume that you can't if you plan on making any money off of it. That said, using the darktide OST to score darktide itself probably doesnt have any problems
I'm just a discord mod though, I really don't know anything about this stuff
spice veldt
getting thrown by an explosion normally causes your arms to flail around; but if you hit a wall while in the air, you get control back. This means that you can do things like this, https://streamable.com/azn594
near wyvern
I have utterly no idea. A personal use license is generally different from a pro...
Is it ok for me to DM like catfish or something about it? It's for a Montage that is 100% Darkride footage. Figured no better music for the montage than the OST which is 🔥
I am no affiliate or anything and I have no monetization on my YT channel
lament glen
CM's don't take direct messages anymore. If you're really worried about it, you could send an email to the community email listed in rule#18 in #📕server-rules, or you could wait until one of them comes online to ask
for a small scale project, I don't think it's a big deal though.
I wouldnt expect a company to give a damn about anything like that unless it explodes
And even then, you're making a gameplay montage of the game- that's just free advertising
near wyvern
Yes and the OST can be heard in the game audio here and there 😅
lament glen
yeah if I were you I'd just do it- I don't think anybody would be bent out of shape by it
safe sun
https://i.imgur.com/vgJInhM.png Not sure about the blessings on this one, thoughts?
safe sun
The main thing with Flurry is that I'm not sure what the time window is for a chained secondary attack. Does it have to be immediately back into charging, or is there like a second or two margin?
summer prairie
You have to keep holding the charge button essentially
river sand
as soon as you let go your m2 or you cancel with R its gone
thats why i'm more a fan of Nexus+surge with animation cancel lately
zealous sierra
What IV do I replace on?
spice owl
Does kinetic overload do something, or is it too slow?
safe sun
Does kinetic overload do something, or is it too slow?
not really worth it in favor of 6 charges IMO, since charges are much easier to build and keep now
spice owl
fair enough
still hearth
Kinetic Overload has one niche
And that's fighting a boss in a horde
Which doesn't really happen very often
spice owl
Kinetic flayer looked really cool 😔
but im having a hard time getting away from 6 charges
still hearth
Flayer is ok, but 99% of the time you use it to keep 4 stacks up
It'll pop on so many goons rather than big ones
But sometimes it procs when you BB bulwarks and they die immediately which is nice
spice owl
one day i will get so good i can play for the cool factor and not the sweat factor
shakes fist at heavens
spice owl
flayer is cool with surge
still hearth
I guess Flayer on Autopistol Psyker
Is kinda nice
But idk I'd rather have 8% more damage on that nasty thing
Even if I have to use my ult to get a stack fast
rocky cedar
But idk I'd rather have 8% more damage on that nasty thing
It pulls double duty for essence harvest and I often notice it just instantly one shot a rager or something I just started unloading on
Come to think of it
Do flayer procs get boosted by active power bonuses?
spice owl
my big question is
spice owl
does flayer prioritize enemy elites if you have damage on multiple mobs?
still hearth
Nope
spice owl
darn
rocky cedar
Warp battery is obviously never a bad choice though
spice owl
🙂
rocky cedar
Yeeeee
rocky cedar
Oh yeah I still think flayer needs a buff, but mostly to how much control you have over procs
Then it could be very cool
Like if you could save it for proccing off BB and stuff like that
still hearth
What if
Flayer was an instant BB every 15s
Instead
At no cost
Damn I'm smart
Imagine that
safe crystal
You can use your F to always get the max stagger bonus, at least. It'll still proc on the first poxwalker hit 
Pinning fire was 100% power right?
still hearth
And then 24% from charges multiplied with that
civic patio
hey fellas quick question
does the game feel choppy (like lagging) even with high fps?? (70ish fps during horde, mid-high 90s any other time)
still hearth
Yes
spice owl
Yes
still hearth
The servers suck
spice owl
What he said
still hearth
They can't handle the game
rocky cedar
I've had some weird nasty lag spikes recently
civic patio
honestly the game run like 30fps max
spice owl
Ive gotten really bad spikes during hordes mostly
still hearth
Hordes fly off into space
spice owl
Which is when no lag is critical
civic patio
it dont matter for me it always lag. honest to god this game run like shit on amd cpu
technically i have a better pc than my lil bro but his game run much smoother than mine
its so annoying
still hearth
My favorite part for autopistol is that in ideal conditions you can do 255 damage per shot on Psyker
Without perks accounted for
And you do 50% more on Maniacs
Tbf Vets just do more but
Psyker not bad
spice owl
Psyker is just the flex class
still hearth
Flexing on the floor
spice owl
Flex on the heretics
civic patio
as much as i love ogryn (it was my first character) but i think i main psyker ^ ^
i just hope they buff em tho :(((
still hearth
Lmao
civic patio
dogshit state i mean
rocky cedar
Tbf Vets just do more but
But then they don't get an anti bulwark/crusher/sniper button so I feel like there's strong pros and cons to both using it
rocky cedar
All but Veteran are equal ish
100% agree with this
still hearth
You can also run AB and delete hordes
For basically no cost
Veteran is a glass cannon that can become a tank nearly permanently
Interesting concept
Meanwhile Ogryn is a tank that does good damage and serious horde control
Zealot is wonky but probably has the best survivability and far more great weapons foe every situation than Ogryn
rocky cedar
I still can't believe Camo Vets exist while unwavering is what it is
still hearth
Psyker is kinda good at everything but not excelling at anything
Good ranged, good melee, good stamina, good damage, okay stats
rocky cedar
Yeah Psyker is like ultra flex/potential carry class with their revive utility
spice owl
crap toughness regen
still hearth
It could use bumping up to 150 toughness and 175 hp
spice owl
thats it really
still hearth
Or why not 175 and 175
rocky cedar
Psyker stamina stats are underrated
spice owl
^^
still hearth
Psyker stamina is fucking nutty
cyan notch
Or why not 175 and 175
ur dreaming
rocky cedar
I honestly find damage avoidance probably easiest on Psyker out of all classes
still hearth
It'll never happen but why not dream
rocky cedar
And stamina stats have a lot to do with that
rocky cedar
I feel a bit like handmaiden as a mobility tank with Psyker with a fast melee weapon
still hearth
Duelling sword go brrrr
rocky cedar
Vet stamina regen is the one downside to Vet I think counts as a serious weakness
still hearth
But then
rocky cedar
Every other weakness people quote for Vet are lies
rocky cedar
Like saying their melee abilities are bad when their toughness stats are wild
rocky cedar
They mitigate it
Can't mitigate the delay though
still hearth
But Power Sword go woosh
rocky cedar
I'm honestly not sure though
still hearth
I ran claw on Vet
And you can just
Slap hordes around
Literally never in danger
It takes forever compared to psword to kill stuff
rocky cedar
Power sword has enough potential damage stacking to theoretically kill every single poxwalker cleaved with crit or headshot
still hearth
But it's way safer
cyan notch
give power sword to psyker vet can have duelling sword
cyan notch
rocky cedar
Of all things it's the stagger strength of power sword that really bothers me
still hearth
Imagine Thunder Hammer or Force Sword with 8 charges and instant damage
rocky cedar
Why does it get to stagger lock everything with its damage cleave
cyan notch
john shootgun
still hearth
There's really no other reasonable explanation
They nerf Zealot dr but not Vet dr
robust meteor
what would you change
cyan notch
id get 80 stats in everything and t4 blessings
still hearth
Warp Flurry is not working as intended on trauma atm, but probably want a t4 when it's fixed
Yeah a better staff is probably ideal
cyan notch
flurry works on trauma
robust meteor
i thought it just didnt work on surge
orchid venture
I suspect that the power sword is good because they're trying to follow the lore, since it's supposed to be some godly ancient super weapon that can cut a dudes atoms in half like they were made of ghost butter
still hearth
Get T4 Flurry
still hearth
I suspect that the power sword is good because they're trying to follow the lore...
Excuse me
Thunder Hammer
robust meteor
i might have that one
still hearth
Is meant to cleave through enemies
And explode on impact
Why does it do neither
orchid venture
The thunder hammer we have is the laithe pattern, made for regular humans to hold
If it exploded like that, i think our arms would go with it
still hearth
Nah I'm not buying it
If we can enhance swords to cleave
We can enhance hammers
We already fight enemies that would delete our crew from just being in the same room
Lore is useless
Ogryn are stronger than space marines but you're telling me a plauge ogryn can hit me and I survive?
still hearth
Ye lore discussion kinda meh
orchid venture
Plague ogryn just isn't feeling it today, they're not putting their heart into it
orchid venture
I mean, victor magnusson's favorite class is zealot, just this favorite weapons are autopistol and axe
safe crystal
I mean, its a guy with a gun. They have to make it interesting somehow, even if its on the expense of the other classes
still hearth
I mean, victor magnusson's favorite class is zealot, just this favorite weapons ...
No wonder they reverted the changes on axes
orchid venture
I forget who the lead weapons guy is, all i remember is that they're a massive lore buff
And his job, besides making the weapons good, is trying to balance the weapons lore versus the weapons in-game role
To try n balance power sword, it has terrible mobility, but that's not even that bad in the grand scheme of things
Who needs to dodge when you can just kill everything attacking you
still hearth
Meanwhile Thunder Hammer, no cleave damage, no speed, highest single target damage (that's something), slow swings, terrible light attacks
cold geode
I watched a Zealot with a monster hammer this afternoon absolutely destroy a plague ogryn and a beast of nurgle in seconds.
orchid venture
Thunder Hammer has terrible mobility, AND terrible horde clear as it's main detriments, and there's pretty much nothing you can do to assist on those areas
No blessings, no perks, not even a perfect 380 roll helps enough to kill 2 enemies in one swing
proven raven
Or because veteran is selected to be OP
Vet balances range, Zealot balances melee, psyker and ogryn need buffs because of it lol
orchid venture
If the game was ALL plague ogryn and beasts of nurgle, thunder hammer would be OP
but you're lucky to see more than one of those per match
clear hamlet
How can a hammer cleave 🤔
orchid venture
Heavy
river sand
btw has anyone ever seen a 25% helath curio ?
river sand
always though could go up to 25
orchid venture
It can, but everything is limited to 80%, like all modifiers
river sand
hmm
orchid venture
Like how toughness only goes up to 17% too
river sand
makes sense
clear hamlet
Game really wants me to play gunker I guess, another emperor's blessing that is a gun
valid marsh
btw has anyone ever seen a 25% helath curio ?
closest is if you get the 5% health perk on top of a 21%
Which I have because rerolling becomes free past a certain point for some reason
unreal sedge
for force sword, what do you guys run blessing wise? deflector and slaughterer i guess?
is exorcist any good? (quell on weakspot)
frail berry
I run deflector and slaughterer
hoary hearth
Should I keep flak? And what do I replace terrifying barrage with?
still hearth
Carapace is trash on Purge so you'll want a new one eventually
But flak is good
Unyielding is my prime choice
Terrifying is fine atm since I think warp flurry isn't working fully on purge I think
Otherwise having Focus Channeling is comfy sometimes
still hearth
Not very but fun memes, maybe
feral topaz
Dang
still hearth
9% chance to do 3 stacks is kinda bad
feral topaz
and the 2nd one isnt anything to write home about either?
still hearth
But shockwave helps lasgun vets on carapace right
I think Brittleness is always bad personally
feral topaz
Hmmm
still hearth
Since it caps at 40%
And I think trauma does 100% to all but infested
So you get nothing yourself
feral topaz
Bummer
still hearth
Brittleness needs to be doubled for it to be valuable imo
Then it'd be great
If max is 80%
lament sonnet
I'd imagine brittleness' value is more in the fact that it applies to all the damage the team puts out
Not just you
lament sonnet
Whether that's working is another story lmao
lament sonnet
How does it suck? I'm not sure what the standard is here.
Legit asking, I'm not sure what to compare it to
still hearth
40% Brittleness adds up to 40% damage you wouldn't do based on armor
So if you do 70% to flak usually
lament sonnet
I may be in psyker chat but I'm the least numerically inclined in here easily
still hearth
You'd do about 13% more damage with 40% Brittleness
still hearth
And most weapons do full damage to most armors
Or at least a decent value
Except flak and carapace
But people fighting carapace usually have a weapon for it
And it's not often worth giving up other stuff for it
latent stirrup
Should I keep flak? And what do I replace terrifying barrage with?
flak is most important dmg stat on purgatus.
carapace is garbage
unyielding is not that useful: only 2 ogryn (which you will most likely brainburst instead) and bosses
i suggest you try to get flak+unarmored and use warp nexus+warp flurry blessings
latent stirrup
yeah and you definitely do not need unyielding
still hearth
Once the ticks start to kill stuff they're dying so fast anyway
You want it because that's the only thing which doesn't die in 3s of flames
Basically
latent stirrup
with flak+unarmored you only need 5 WC to kill all non tagables with ascedant blaze
still hearth
Otherwise crit chance is actually better I'd say
That's okay, too
But you probably run flak on melee
So you could swap to that
still hearth
If you spit fire you probably got the time to do so if you're concerned about 5 stacks killing things
latent stirrup
and nobody keeps you from using these stats on mele etoo
but sure, feel free to use a dmg stat on your staff, that effectively only gives you a bonus against bosses 😄
still hearth
Purge broken anyway so 
latent stirrup
the threshold for what is "broken" seems to be incredibly low nowadays 😄
clear hamlet
any gunkers around?
still hearth
Yes
clear hamlet
What feats you use
still hearth
Mostly the same as staff, quell toughness, inner tranq, cerebral, Deflection or shield, 6 stacks, barrage
Depends on what I feel like though
It's a mix of BB and gunplay
Might run wrack and ruin now though but people kill my targets constantly if I bb
still hearth
Tbf if they're playing aggro then it's fine since their dr is valuable
But long range vets
latent stirrup
y but if there are 10 guys to shoot, and they awlays pick the blue shiny one... just bad player
olive ember
As a vet main
I just think psykers should stop BB'ing targets
the time it takes for them to BB one target I could kill like 5
just stop
river sand
BB is good for 4 things, start of the map get stacks going / bulwarks / long range snipers / fleeing hounds or bombers
latent stirrup
the time it takes for them to BB one target I could kill like 5
nobody keeps you from killing anything while psykers bb.
still hearth
I want to see the Vet that kills 5 elites in 3s that aren't standing still at long range
latent stirrup
it is just massively dumb, to constantly focus down the guy that is already getting brainbuzrsted.
anything that dies 1 shot to BB and is not the only immediate danger, should not be attacked when already blue shiny
olive ember
Nah idk why the psyker is using BB
it isn't malice
its like zealot using thunderhammer
olive ember
BB oneshotting pox bursters
The depressing thing is that it takes 2
olive ember
Psyker moment
still hearth
You can also shoot it with one staff sap then BB
unreal sedge
All you need is a terrible blessing and 6 stacks
wait which blessing buffs bb?
latent stirrup
none?
olive ember
wait which blessing buffs bb?
Cerebral lacerations
still hearth
All or nothing
olive ember
Oh yes
still hearth
It buffs it just enough for a few breakpoints with laceration
Two shot Crushers, three shot muties, oneshot bursters
olive ember
They just need to buff BB again and make it one shot everything ez pz
10000 dmg per BB
still hearth
Make it cost 100% peril
olive ember
👌👌
unreal sedge
so many enemy survive BB with 1 hp
tempted to run it
do u 1hit ragers and flamers too?
unreal sedge
F
still hearth
They have like 60 hp left
olive ember
Depends on warp charge I thought but meh
Idr you almost never run warp battery and CL
still hearth
You could run wrack and ruin too
unreal sedge
they should buff bb by another 10%
still hearth
And they'll die
unreal sedge
and gg
olive ember
laughs
still hearth
They just need to buff it by 5%
cyan notch
mf said laughs
ornate hamlet
anyone know how to get the penance to retain one down and low health easily?
and which missions i should focus on
olive ember
The zealot achieve?
hybrid solstice
Are you referring to the penance where you maintain less than a wound worth of health?
hybrid solstice
get downed once and then stand in toxflame or let a dog pounce you for a little bit
still hearth
You just need less than one wound in hp
olive ember
Or just hit a barrel and stand in it
still hearth
Don't need to go down
latent stirrup
and maybe do not run the selfheal feat
olive ember
Don’t bring +wound curios obviously so you have half your hp to play with
latent stirrup
or lose 1 wound, get a tiny bit of corruption on the remaining wound (so less than 1 entire wound is remaining) and then do use the selfheal feat
hybrid solstice
you could run health curios so that "less than one wound" is more effective HP to work with perhaps, for breathing room (assuming you dont run those already)
latent stirrup
dont rly need health curios
if the way you play, you gain more survivability from toughness, then take that instead
use what ever feats you play with comfortably, but maybe use the feat that allows you to heal yourself when the invulnerability passive istriggered
(as i said, you are required to have a bit of corruption on your last wound for that, sou you always stay below 1 full wound of hp)
hybrid solstice
If you want to build just for doing the zealot penance i'd probably pick something like probably 1-3-2-3-3
the last feat is basically whatever you want but having two on-demand instant toughness recoveries (and escapes) would probably be a good safety net
you can theoretically take toughness curios instead, anything to up your survivability, but health chips through toughness, which is the only thing to consider when deciding (based on the way you manage damage), however you could even run a mix of both. I dont think it will make or break you either way for this penance
ember hornet
what even is 13233
boreal meteor
what gun is the most meta rn for psykers
latent stirrup
what even is 13233
1st feat 1st option
2nd feat 3rd option
3rd feat 2nd option...
lethal folio
Laspistol, Headhunters.
ember hornet
oh I know but 13233 is one of the worst recommendations I've ever heard
assuming you were talking about zealot
terse saffron
does inner tranquility affect kinetic deflection peril gain?
terse saffron
yes
halcyon root
excellent
terse saffron
because thats the only manufacturer ig
halcyon root
there are 3
elder rain
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leaden thunder
antax, brutal momentum and decimator or headtaker(decimator prefered)
if you find yourself push attacking alot then it may be worth using headtaker
sterile vale
2 5 or 4?
If I'm not mistaken, MK V is the most popular one because it's got fast and strong heavies, easy to hit heads
halcyon root
I see I'll give it a go
near wyvern
Best is such a relative word. It all depends what you are after, what you want from your melee weapon.
hard oyster
I just think psykers should stop BB'ing targets
Fast BB is fast, gives stacks
clear heath
Just played a damnation game with a psyker who killed himself over 4 times
he was a gun psyker
elder rain
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summer prairie
only if you need t4 nexus
ornate hamlet
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yeah steal t4 nexus and put it on the right one
elder rain
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ornate hamlet
the staff's base stats on the right is nearly as good as it gets
personally i'd change sprint efficiency to crit chance,
and i'd steal tier IV nexus and put it on the right one
elder rain
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ornate hamlet
i dunno much about FS, i'm a combat axe enthusiast
elder rain
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ornate hamlet
with purg, you don't really need to use V you can use II or VIII
elder rain
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leaden thunder
they are better single target
the rashad will just be better if it gets fixed
just in general
ornate hamlet
purg is superior horde clear tool at psyker's disposal, do you don't need a melee weapon that is good at horde clear
you can use one that is higher single target dps
i linked a breakdown i posted comparing the three combat axes when you are spamming heavy attacks with them
with images showing animation recovery times, and this is a comparison with 80% finesse for nearly 12% attack speed
which MK V doesn't get (it has cleave instead, so it's pretty good at horde clear, but you don't need horde clear if you're using purg for horde clear)
ornate hamlet
the rashad will just be better if it gets fixed
rashad had bodyshot hitreg priority intentionally, doubt it'll change
can still hit weakspots, it's just trickier
leaden thunder
it should, that's a stupid balancing mechanic
elder rain
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leaden thunder
for psyker yes
ornate hamlet
i agree, but if it did, it'd just be superior to MK VIII in every way
instead, they each have their pros and cons
leaden thunder
if achyls h1 cleaved by defualt
which it's wierd it doesn't
since its a horizontal heavy
honestly they should make both of it's hevies cleaves
ornate hamlet
it was unintentionally showing a cleave attack on h1, they fixed it.
leaden thunder
fix the hit box prio on the rashad
elder rain
for psyker yes
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ornate hamlet
the three combat axes are designed the way each of them are designed intentionally, they're not likely to be changed anytime soon
leaden thunder
this is purely my opinion on how they would be different
ornate hamlet
the only unintentional thing was the damage against mutant, which was obviously a bug
and they already fixed it
leaden thunder
i'd like for the antax to be light cleave, achyls to be heavy cleave, and the rashad to be single target king
but that's me personally
ornate hamlet
it is single target king if you know how to use it correctly
it's just much harder to get the weak spot hits to connect
leaden thunder
I mean like for if they change them
ornate hamlet
you have to practice and know the exactly positioning needed to make it work
it's designed that way on purpose
elder rain
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ornate hamlet
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health + health + toughness
and i have toughness regen on each one of them
leaden thunder
get enough toughness to eat a shooter burst
then rest hp
I think hp+hp+tough may give enough to eat a shooter burst
elder rain
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ornate hamlet
@elder rain honestly i'd recommend MK VIII
even tho it has slightly more recovery animation time when spamming heavy attacks compared to MK II, it's waaaay easier to land weakspot hits on enemies with compared to MK II, resulting in practice doing more dps usually
if i had a better rolled MK VIII i'd use it instead of MK II
but mine keep getting shit blessings
it's also harder to find a good MK II and MK VIII than it is to find a good MK V
because to find a good MK V, you only need 50% or more on the cleave stat
to find a good MK II or good MK VIII
you need good rolls on finesse too
so if you find a good MK V but don't have a good MK II or MK VIII yet, just use the MK V
it's still high dps on single target too
much better than most other melee weps for psyker
as far as i'm concerned, the only 2 melee weps psyker should be using is combat axe or force sword
ornate hamlet
if you use surge, you should most def use MK V combat axe.
if you use purg, you should probably use MK VIII combat axe, or force sword.
if you use void or trauma, i'd probably still use MK V combat axe, but these 2 staves have different positional advantages, so melee weps that allow you more mobility can work out pretty well too
still hearth
Duelling Sword/Knife on all staffs.
On Void I don't even really use my melee for anything but moving around
Could use it on Crushers sometimes, I guess.
But most of the time there's other stuff to do, or I'll Barrage it down
hybrid solstice
mk v dueling sword has the largest dodge distance in the game and ties for highest sprint speed modifier with the knife (i think) so if you just want a mobility stick it's pretty good
cyan notch
yea it do go zoom
hybrid solstice
yeh fr
elder rain
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hard oyster
I've been using purge because well, by fire be cleansed but I feel the damage is lacking hard, and the stagger takes like a full second to happen, if I roll a higher damage staff, will the stagger take place faster?
ornate hamlet
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headtaker is the best blessing for combat axe, decimator is also a good one, those are my two fav
hybrid solstice
I've been using purge because well, by fire be cleansed but I feel the damage is...
What is the BST on your staff
cyan notch
do u mean vs ragers or normal adds
hard oyster
What is the BST on your staff
I haven't heard that abbreviation before
elder rain
headtaker is the best blessing for combat axe, decimator is also a good one, tho...
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hybrid solstice
I haven't heard that abbreviation before
Base stat total
hard oyster
344
hybrid solstice
what are damage, burn and cloud radius at
hard oyster
Blast and burn are near max, the burn is like 57
ornate hamlet
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they're all important except for mobility
hard oyster
Damage* not burn
hybrid solstice
i dont actually know which of those is responsible for stagger
But mine staggers instantly
hard oyster
Hmm. I know the lmb is usually reliable stagger, I'm wondering of more stagger on rmb
hybrid solstice
the fire puff on the staff is amazing since it insta staggers almost all humanoid specials and dogs
cyan notch
stats dont affect the stagger im pretty sure
rmb flame does less stagger than lmb so vs ragers they can sometimes get a hit in
ornate hamlet
against ragers, all you need is axe and knowing how to properly time your dodges
but yes purg left mouse is a good as you close to melee with them
hard oyster
Aight I'll just spam lmb when I need close range stagger faster. I was just curious about it
cyan notch
yea thats just the staff stats arent gonna affect your stagger
hard oyster
Okay I wasn't sure, other weapons I think it does is all
ornate hamlet
as you close in before you reach melee with rager, just hit them with left mouse from purg staff, this will stagger them, at which point you can begin eliminating them with your axe, which will usually kill them before they can even attack, if it doesn't, know your dodge timings
still hearth
I think damage affects the stagger value, actually. But it doesn't say it does in the modifier. I'm not 100% on that though.
cyan notch
when i was levelling my alts i brought garbage grey purgs into damnation and didnt notice anything different
hard oyster
Gorchya. And I use the weeb sword, so I just special them during stagger
ornate hamlet
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these base stats are pretty good, but perks suck and blessings suck
and it'd be better if it had more penetration and less mobility
hybrid solstice
Gorchya. And I use the weeb sword, so I just special them during stagger
Which sword is the weeb sword lol
ornate hamlet
on MK VIII combat axe:
damage>first target>finesse>penetration>mobility
still hearth
Anyone got a purge with below 79% damage?
Apparently my only ones are maxed out in damage
cyan notch
brunt has em
hybrid solstice
Lol
ornate hamlet
Anyone got a purge with below 79% damage?
cyan notch
first try 17% guaranteed
ornate hamlet
nope
still hearth
That's not below 79 :<
hybrid solstice
My purg is 76% damage
ornate hamlet
hybrid solstice
With a 376 bst
still hearth
I'm looking at voidstrike instead
And stagger does not seem to be affected by damage there so I'll go with that.
So yeah
ornate hamlet
i kinda doubt stagger is dependant on damage
still hearth
Damage very big dump stat
It helps with chaff clear
Since it does 60 DPS
Which does more than the first two seconds of flaming
In terms of DoT
But even at like 0%
ornate hamlet
i mean, warp resist is also a dump stat on purg imo.
even with only 54% warp resist i barely generate peril using it constantly
still hearth
I think it only goes down to like 30 DPS
Especially in hordes
You just
Go to 60+ peril
Then suddenly
0
ornate hamlet
purg staff:
burn>cloud radius>quell speed>damage>warp resistance
imo
elder rain
on MK VIII combat axe:
damage>first target>finesse>penetration>mobility
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still hearth
You ideally want cloud to be at 80
And burn at 76 I think
Then its kind of whatever
hybrid solstice
Is there a reason for burn at 76 specifically
still hearth
That's when you get the last bonus
ornate hamlet
76+ is the same
ornate hamlet
(until fatshark gives us 81+)
still hearth
Since it caps at 0.32/s per stack and 16 stacks iirc
cyan notch
15
elder rain
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cyan notch
its ok 74 is not a big deal you just have 14 stacks max which doesnt really come into play except bosses
still hearth
I ran full HP curios and sniper resistance
Then I ran full toughness
And I prefer full HP heavily
And sniper resistance because snipers just sometimes blow you up without proper warning
cyan notch