#psyker-class

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delicate smelt
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Quell speed doesn't really matter, you just have to get used to not over quelling all the way down to zero from mid or high quell. Quell a bit, attack once or twice, requell a bit, repeat, press F, repeat.

feral verge
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then maybe quell

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acutally nah

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charge speed

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then blast radius

cyan notch
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DAMAGE 100!!!!

delicate smelt
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By my incomparable miiiind!!!!

viral solstice
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teach the muties ur a handful

formal flume
cyan notch
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id be funny if it ran past you and grabbed your teammate

viral solstice
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i got the special sauce

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he wants it

peak grotto
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Thoughts on this staff Melk is selling me?

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Everything is nice but that burn damage is concerning

twilit comet
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Can psykers get braced auto gun? I thought not.

devout axle
long wharf
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that's heresy

devout axle
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Then I guess I'm a heretic.

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Inquisitor isn't around

spice veldt
# delicate smelt Quell speed doesn't really matter, you just have to get used to not over quellin...

Exactly. It's important to quell from 100%. And because of how you quell in discrete amounts, it's important to get a bit more out of each tick. For reference, 80% quell speed will quell 13.28% peril and 100% quell speed will quell 16% peril. Eeking out that extra 2.72% can push you past breakpoints.
In the case of my trauma staff, that means that I can quite possibly one-shot dreg stalkers with a single quell if I were to reach 100% quell speed; I am just barely unable to do this.
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lunar hollow
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first time i get a gold curio on psyker as a big e gift

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and its FUCKING THIS

devout axle
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God I love rolling +Experience on curios. Literally waste of an entire slot for no benefit at all.

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Why the fuck is +Experience even a potential roll?

real sapphire
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My favourite part of +xp is not being able to get the full benefit of it until you're already max level.

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To which there's obviously none.

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Incredible.

lunar hollow
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mutie resist is damn near useless

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combat regen is just as useless

long wharf
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maybe at some point in the future we'll get "prestige levels"

lunar hollow
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experience literally does nothing cuz all my characters are 30

devout axle
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I like combat regen. If I'm running a build that doesn't use ult CDR feats, the 3 seconds you can shave off its cooldown from running +10-12% Combat Ability Regen is actually quite nice.

rocky cedar
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But on the other hand trauma winning so far is pretty pog

feral verge
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I really like trauma

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First time really using it since I started playing in Nov tbh

rocky cedar
devout axle
lunar hollow
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if combat ability cooldown reduction didn't coexist with shit like 5% toughness or 30% toughness regen i'd enjoy it

feral verge
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I'd take HP, toughness Regen, toughness, sniper resit any day all day over ability cool down

rocky cedar
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3 seconds is very rarely impactful

lunar hollow
devout axle
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You clearly don't play any mobas then.

cyan notch
rocky cedar
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For 3 whole perks

rocky cedar
viral solstice
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i just pretend my curios got nothin so whatever is on there is gucci

rocky cedar
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Your opponents are AI

viral solstice
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ordos life

feral verge
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I just pick the curio that looks the coolest 🙃

cyan notch
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my opponent is fatshark

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doesnt give me my blessings i want

devout axle
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The most cope thing is probably thinking any of the curio perks matter at all.

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Because in reality, none of them really make a difference.

cyan notch
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toughness regen definitely does

rocky cedar
spice veldt
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i like the stamina curio perks

long wharf
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because everybody knows we psykers are the ones doing all the actual testing, this mod was just released

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I'm going to setup modding for darktide right now

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this mod has pushed me to do it

rocky cedar
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I would argue sniper resist and toughness regen are both orders of magnitude more impactful than ability cooldown

feral verge
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Sick

rocky cedar
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I'd take stam recovery over ability cooldown any day of the week too frankly

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Just for getting around

peak grotto
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Terrifying Barrage is worthless on Purgatus, right?

feral verge
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Now I can see if rampage is procable on duelling sword

rocky cedar
long wharf
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yeah same

rocky cedar
feral verge
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In psykhanium I can only hit 2

cyan notch
humble star
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Block efficiency still worth it for deflector swords?

lethal folio
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Lights only have 2 mass limit, you need to be using push attack for rampage.

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You should be push attacking with dueling sword anyway because it keeps a lot of damage on target 2.

long wharf
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I wouldn't have put Bloodthirsty on that, though, Slaughterer would be better for a blocking fsword

humble star
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I'm running perg, so a 2 second slaughter buff isn't gonna ever get used

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had nothing better to put on it

devout axle
long wharf
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not my mod, but recommend and tell everyone you know anyways

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I just finished a major block of work on a Valheim mod, so I'm switching gears to Darktide now

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I want to play with a blazing spirit surge staff, god damn it

humble star
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didn't that used to exist? Never had one so I wouldnt' know

long wharf
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nope

humble star
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so the old blessing lists were just wrong?

long wharf
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Blazing spirit is normally available on fsword, trauma, and void

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oh definitely

humble star
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Blazing spirit on all the weapons that don't benefit from it pogryn

long wharf
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and have no increased crit chance, unlike surge staff

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yep.

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well, fsword has finesse, but that doesn't matter

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without Bloodthirsty, you aren't reliably critting anyways

rocky cedar
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But you can do crit swapping with FS and Surge

humble star
rocky cedar
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It's just way way more trouble than it's worth KEKW_ogryn

grizzled iris
viral solstice
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i have some bad news about vicious slice

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tho its probs only temporarily bad news because ive bug reported it

cyan notch
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i think savage sweep is better

viral solstice
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vicious slice does impact not damage

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so

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yeah savage sweep is better rn

steel flame
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Viscous slice has terrible wordin. It's consecutive hits right?

tough trail
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is the 'peril shock trooper' build in pins the current meta?

humble star
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play the "did fatshark test this before writing the description" roulette

tough trail
steel flame
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Oh that

humble star
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Haven't played that since passive quell was neutered

steel flame
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Meh. I prefer laspistol over recon

tough trail
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but force sword still good right

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i heard its super cool

humble star
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it's a sword, with force

tough trail
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woah

shadow wigeon
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Melk has provided

humble star
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the most useless but awesome looking combo

clever elk
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this worth buying and upgrading?

viral solstice
shadow wigeon
viral solstice
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if the mobility was moved to ft

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still crab it tho to show respect

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or rather if the wr was moved to first target

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but yeee

humble star
viral solstice
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i mean fire sword is for its own purpose

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its to have fire sword

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fire sword, fire sword, its a sword that is also fire

steel flame
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Truth

shadow wigeon
humble star
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Now if only I could get a FS with Unstable power IV and slaughterIV whatthefuck_heresy

shadow wigeon
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I tried it on a few games, it is very hard to get value from the blaze stacks

viral solstice
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memes u say

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does this look like memes to u NO this is GAMER JUICE

idle bay
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Sour Milk brought this today

humble star
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14 damage pogryn

viral solstice
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see now thats what u call

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a finely calculated one shot

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mm yes my dear boi it is indeed a one shot just wait

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crusher goes off, overheads and one shots ur vet

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then dies

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"i thought u were gonna one shot it"

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i did

gloomy obsidian
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Is Deflector a good perk to replace Shredder 3

viral solstice
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the answer is straightforwardly: do u want to use deflector

cyan notch
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yes

viral solstice
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ur not allowed to use his deflector unless he says its ur turn

gloomy obsidian
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Lol

cyan notch
wide tiger
elder rain
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One message removed from a suspended account.

grizzled iris
steel flame
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So close to perfection

viral solstice
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but yea vicious slice sohuld be fixed soon

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so both will be very gucci

steel flame
grizzled iris
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Running this combo atm

viral solstice
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i got a ver similar voidstrike except the blast radius charge rate are swapped ish

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or maybe quell speed?

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but same blessings same tier

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i just want surge

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i just wanna shoot multiple blobs

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its a great setup tho

hollow obsidian
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What blessings should I be looking for on a purgatus staff?

steel flame
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Oh man. So many options

cyan notch
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i like flurry and channeling

steel flame
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Pretty much only Warp flurry and nexus

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Channeling gets rid of stuns so it can get you killed since you lose melee attack feedback

cyan notch
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not really you still get the damage indicator unless ur really not paying attention

steel flame
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I'm just letting you know it can be more of a detriment on higher difficulties than a help. Up to you with what you do with that information

spice veldt
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you still get the stun anim and get slowed

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it just keeps your charge as long as you RMB

cyan notch
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hardly a detriment if you are aware of whats going on imo

spice veldt
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nvm i lied

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you don't get the stun anim or slowed

steel flame
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Well. I tend to see fire psyker has considerably less spatial awareness than most. Had a buddy using channeling that kept getting himself killed be melee trash because the attacks didn't interrupt him and give the chance to react

cyan notch
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yeah thats unironically skill issue i guess

viral solstice
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when i first installed the remove screen effects mod

spice veldt
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focused channelling also protects you against the stun of the bomber nade

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very cool

viral solstice
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it removed the "u took a hit absorbed by toughness" effect

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and i got fucking battered by a poxwalker squad from behind while blasting bangers

steel flame
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It might not be as terrible now that they fixed not being able to swap to melee during a charged secondary attack

spice veldt
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i mean it's still a net benefit as long as you pay attention to your hp/toughness

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being able to hittrade with ranged enemies without breaking your cast is extremely good

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i distinctly remember the times where my cast got broken in my most recent match because that shit was so annoying getting my cast cancelled at max toughness

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and then I take more damage because the shooters that I intended to kill/interrupt can now blast my ass

steel flame
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Big issue before was you couldn't swap while doing the flame secondary and the stun let you break out and quick swap to melee. It still feels like that happens sometimes but not as much. More noticeable on void when charging when you try to swap to BB and you just can't

cyan notch
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it helps a lot when youre trying to play aggressive less so if youre just safely flaming

spice veldt
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i always just released my LMB/RMB before swapping to melee

elder rain
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One message removed from a suspended account.

spice veldt
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it wasn't that big of a deal if you just changed up your muscle memory

steel flame
static epoch
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if you don't normally get hit don't get channeling

steel flame
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Purge already had great suppression so terrify doesn't add much

cyan notch
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theres only 5 blessings and one of em is run and gun

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so not a lot to choose from

tough trail
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what feats should i be running

static epoch
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run and gun is great

viral solstice
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its hard

cyan notch
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barrage

static epoch
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barely does anything on damnation

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.. i use peril crits it helps on big packs which is what it's for

tender onyx
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should I buy this?

spice veldt
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chainsword has the nerfed version of bloodthirsty, but you could buy it in the hopes that they buff it

uneven rivet
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I mean do you want it? Better then what you got? Stats are fine, perks are bad, blessings are decent.

tender onyx
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I'm tempted. but I don't know if I wanna give up my force sword just yet

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Are chain swords in general good for psyker?

cyan notch
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pretty good at horde clear if you build into it

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push attack kinda shit

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special attack stagger on enemies can be inconsistent

steel flame
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Burn it for bloodthirsty. Pray it gets buffed

tacit flume
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Anyone have any tips for psyker? Ive got mine to level 14 but its not clicking with me

steel flame
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It only starts clicking when you hit 30

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Psyker doesn't mesh much without his capstone skills

tacit flume
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oh ok thats good to know haha

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Ive gotten every other class to 30 but psyker feels like tissue paper

steel flame
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He's got battle wizard syndrome where he feels kinda bad till he gets all his feats

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Quietude is his best t1 while you are leveling up since lower level staves and BB generate lots of peril

tacit flume
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Are any of his unique melees worth using?

steel flame
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Essence harvest becomes really good once you have flayer and communion

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The sabres are pretty good. Force sword is pretty great for defense if you can get one with deflector

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Let's you block bullets

tacit flume
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that would be really nice

rocky cedar
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Force sword can also stack damage boosts like crazy with feats and blessings

wide tiger
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much prefer all offense force sword to deflector fsword

forest coral
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Force sword needs slaughterer to start being juicy

wide tiger
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unlimited dodge is all you neeeed

forest coral
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Deflector is like… optional. It’s nice utility tho

rocky cedar
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In theory FS should be capable of reaching close to 3x base damage with max stacking

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Before perks

steel flame
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Too bad RNG keeps me from actually getting any actual offensive blessings for force sword

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Fuck RNG

echo turtle
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upgraded 3 swords to gold tonight

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no slaughterer 4 or blood thirsty :/

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maybe tomorrow

echo turtle
rocky cedar
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Yo rhinoxerous

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You know how unstable power stacking works?

wide tiger
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the 9/9/11/11 blessing pool really blows for fs

echo turtle
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rn I use unstable/slaughterer

wide tiger
rocky cedar
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Yeah but also what the peril points are for each stacks

wide tiger
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I also use unstable/slaughterer

echo turtle
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i dont

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I just figure, number go up

rocky cedar
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Like is it same as warp nexus?

wide tiger
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yes

rocky cedar
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Cause that'd be lame

echo turtle
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it probably is the same

wide tiger
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it is

rocky cedar
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Oh god damn it

wide tiger
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yeah

echo turtle
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whats the nunbers?

wide tiger
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its like 50/70/97/97

echo turtle
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I was JUST thinking maybe I should use shred instead

rocky cedar
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Yeah something like that

wide tiger
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I mean, it'll get fixed one day

rocky cedar
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Shred kinda bad

wide tiger
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and then it will be good

echo turtle
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oh fuck

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shred kinda decent

rocky cedar
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Block resets it

echo turtle
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yeah but with lights you get back up so fast

wide tiger
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I dont like shred because i often weave a push into my combo

rocky cedar
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Pretty eh for force sword IMO

echo turtle
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I seldom@block

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and the multiplier is huge

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2.3x

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i wish it was more reliable tho

rocky cedar
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I'd probably take executor over shred

echo turtle
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ehh

safe crystal
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Im using uncanny until i get a bloodthirsty

rocky cedar
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Though I'm not sure how executor stacks either

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Or what resets it

echo turtle
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I would take unstable for executors

wide tiger
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Honestly it feels like anything that gives +power > everything else

safe crystal
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Bloodthirsty waiting room

echo turtle
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its 5 seconds isnt it

safe crystal
wide tiger
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besides maybe all or nothing cause... well

rocky cedar
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I could see uncanny being good

echo turtle
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same issue as shred

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I have uncanny 3 and was testing it

rocky cedar
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I don't think so

echo turtle
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you have to hit weakspot repeatedly

rocky cedar
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At least it definitely doesn't get reset on knife

wide tiger
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uncanny doesnt do much of anything for your special either

echo turtle
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as soon as you hit something not a weakspot it resets

rocky cedar
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It's probably like a 2 second duration

echo turtle
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duration i didnt test

rocky cedar
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So drops off easy since force sword isn't that fast

echo turtle
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but you hit a non weakspot it resets

rocky cedar
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It's pretty easy to sustain with knife

echo turtle
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yeah easier with a knife

safe crystal
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Uncanny is 2.5s duration

rocky cedar
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I'm almost sure hitting non weakpoints doesn't reset on knife

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Like 95%

echo turtle
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so, each % crit on the FS averages to like 1.25% extra damage

tender onyx
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run and gun. Good or bad?

rocky cedar
echo turtle
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so if unstable is usually only giving 4-8% power

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shred evens out on the 2-3rd hits ij a chain

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then outperforms

wide tiger
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Yeah, its just my hope theyre going to fix it

echo turtle
wide tiger
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so I'm holding onto it

safe crystal
rocky cedar
wide tiger
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5% per peril threshold yeah

rocky cedar
echo turtle
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lol

rocky cedar
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You're realistically not getting above 2 stacks except maybe right after activating special if well managed

mossy bobcat
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does trauma staff hit weakpoints on explosion or is the quell on weakspot blessing garbo ?

rocky cedar
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You might occasionally be able to pull off a quick max unstable special attack

wide tiger
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juggling special at max stacks isnt too hard

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but thats about the only time you get to use it

echo turtle
mossy bobcat
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thanks

wide tiger
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I still think if you're gonna do shred then you may as well do executor

rocky cedar
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You can still theoretically get value from primary fire

wide tiger
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not like headshots are hard to get on FS

rocky cedar
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But definitely not worth over other options

echo turtle
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why would I do executor?

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5% power after an elite kill

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for 5 seconds

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lol no

wide tiger
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thats not executor

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thats superiority

echo turtle
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Second hit on shred 3 is a 4% crit chance boost, which is as good mathematically as that 5% power

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oh whats executor

wide tiger
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+5% power on repeated weakspot hit

rocky cedar
echo turtle
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ah

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So, same issue with uncanny

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it resets too easy

near wyvern
echo turtle
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4% crit, maths the same average bonus as 5% power

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it is so much easier to get the crit chance

rocky cedar
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I swear uncanny is not broken by non weak point hits but I'll have to test it specifically with force sword at some point

wide tiger
echo turtle
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I was just testing it and it was

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but, naybe i did something wrong

wide tiger
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😦

echo turtle
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you hit a non weakspot

near wyvern
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And you only get to 3 stacks with special and those are lost when you then start a swing

echo turtle
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shred resets in broken chaun

rocky cedar
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Weird that it would work different between knife and FS

echo turtle
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uncan resets on another kind of hit

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hit a head and then it body then hit head

rocky cedar
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I did on crushers with knife in the past and it kept the rending for a time

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I'll have to test again

near wyvern
echo turtle
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after missing the head?

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FS specials count as a bunch of hits

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which is dope for blazing spirit for instance

wide tiger
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yeah the dream is to crit all 3 hits

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for big soulblaze stacking

echo turtle
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you crit 1 they all crit

wide tiger
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well, just crit

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yeah thats what i meant

rocky cedar
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Interesting that you can use it for blaze boosting

echo turtle
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yeah I noticed I critted with a firesword and an ogryn had a ton of stacks

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so, a FS special would probably max out shred righht away

rocky cedar
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Assuming it has similar mechanics to executor

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Which is likely

echo turtle
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uncanny is legit tho, I generally like it

rocky cedar
# near wyvern

Is there a similar description for uncanny in whatever that document is you're screenshot thing?

echo turtle
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Uncanny is definitely a contender

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I just was finding it resetting

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maybe I need to test more

rocky cedar
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Yeah I'm just curious about a mechanics breakdown

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Whatever doc Pygex is referring to seems pretty thorough

spice veldt
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its his own guide that he's referring to

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the athenum

echo turtle
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seems to have 0 effect on the heavies

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vs flak

spice veldt
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FS heavies deal 100% against flak

olive ember
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I’m surprised pygex guide isn’t pinned tbh

echo turtle
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same with maniac

olive ember
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It’s a rly nice resource for psykers

spice veldt
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FS also deals 100% against maniac

echo turtle
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so, uncanny does nothing for heavies

olive ember
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You think we could get someone to pin it? XD

spice veldt
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the only armour type that FS heavies deals <100% against is carapace

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so only maulers, crushers, and reapers (hands and feet) will get affected by uncanny strike with regards to FS heavies

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the main benefit of uncanny for the FS is just the stagger really

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and maybe some extra damage on the lights; particularly the 3rd light

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if you look at the inspect table, the damage mods for the 3rd light are kind of all over the place

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for Executor on the FS, my results conflict with pygex's results

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blocking, and consequently pushing/push-attacking, resets my executor stacks

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OH WAIT

rocky cedar
spice veldt
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yeah

rocky cedar
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But also less stagger for the first 2 stacks

spice veldt
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but you lose stagger if you have less than 50% rending

rocky cedar
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Yep cool I remember how that works correctly then

spice veldt
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executor is so weird on the FS

rocky cedar
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I guess that's part of why it feels really good on Knife

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Very easy to get max stacks then you have double stagger

spice veldt
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so push-attacks don't break executor

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interesting

rocky cedar
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As well as great DPS

spice veldt
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yeah so the main benefit of uncanny for FS is pretty much the stagger

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FS has one of the worst staggers on their normal attacks

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except the 3rd light as far as I can tell

rocky cedar
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Where can I find a link to the athenum by the way?

spice veldt
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it's a steam guide

wide tiger
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dueling saber seems to have terrible stagger on its normal attacks

rocky cedar
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Ok cheers

spice veldt
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i think it should be on the front page of the newest steam guides?

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not too many steam guides for this game have come out

echo turtle
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Uncanny adds stagger?

spice veldt
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rending modifies your stagger for some reason

wide tiger
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on all enemies or just flak/carapace enemies?

spice veldt
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the stagger multiplier is given by 2 * rending%; I'm not sure if brittleness also affects it but I assume it does

echo turtle
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ah

spice veldt
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on all enemies, even if the attack doesn't do <100% damage against that armour type

wide tiger
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man this game is random as shit under the hood

spice veldt
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ikr

echo turtle
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Lols

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so, my Fs rn is just shy of oh hitting a mauler with a light charge attack

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we were THIS close to greatness

spice veldt
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sniping maulers is my favorite thing with the FS

echo turtle
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with warp unleashed it can one hit maulers with a light and muties with a heavy tho

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so thats cool

olive ember
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But you need warp unleashed

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Which isn’t cool

echo turtle
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indeed

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Having been testing it

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I like the extra damage but hate the perils

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I would need to lean very heavy on then FS to make it worth it

olive ember
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Pmuch

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The FS is the main weapon it helps out with

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Next one is voidstrike and then the rest it’s not worth

spice veldt
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i bump myself to high peril whenever a horde comes and there are no elites/specials to take care of

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then I hope that battle meditation quells enough whenever elites/specials do come

olive ember
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It buffs FS base damage tho so I guess

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Technically you could start a fight with 25% more damage on your FS before you have the slaughterer stacks

spice veldt
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basically like having two t3 slaughterer stacks right from the getgo

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at least pre-buff, warp unleashed pushed me over the threshold for one-shotting dreg ragers with heavy-special headshots (with +maniac)

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and it made one-shotting maulers with light-special bodyshots a bit more easier

agile acorn
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what's the best first perk?

rocky cedar
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Depends on the rest of the build

spice veldt
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if you're BBing a lot, essence harvest

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i dislike warp absorption since you have to DPS check enemies (successfully) to make the best use of it

rocky cedar
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Yeah at low level probably the easiest way to be useful

spice veldt
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I like quietude since it's a bit more general

rocky cedar
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Quietude is also good

olive ember
summer prairie
#

Not when he has no staves

olive ember
#

yeah

spice veldt
#

ah that's true

olive ember
#

oh hes lvl 5

rocky cedar
#

Quietude is still ok with just BB

agile acorn
olive ember
#

amazing

#

um

agile acorn
#

just trying out psyker lol

olive ember
#

for trauma run either 2nd or 3rd

spice veldt
#

oof; trauma staff is kinda poopoo at low levels

rocky cedar
#

Probably quietude for a low level trauma

olive ember
#

2nd gives you more toughness back whenever you blow alot of stuff up

#

quietitude gives you toughness whenever you quell peril

rocky cedar
#

Low level trauma isn't gonna get many kills with lower difficulty density and a bad radius and charge rate stat

#

Hence I think quietude would be a lot more consistent at low level

olive ember
#

also @agile acorn I will say that psyker is def a class that gets better the more you play it

#

its probably the strongest at the start cuz it gets funny weapons like the FS at lvl 2

#

but around lvl 15 it will feel like shit

#

when the fucking las gun vet just kills everything before you can kill anything

rocky cedar
#

I remember quietude feeling the best for a large portion of the leveling process

olive ember
#

Idr tbh cuz I played mostly uprising while leveling

#

so yeah

#

XD

#

also at the start I was using my CBT build which used essence harvest without realizing how meh it was after the nerf from CBT

#

ah CBT builds

safe crystal
#

I'm using quietitude until I hit 15 on my new psyker, then use EH and communion

rocky cedar
#

Quietude isn't as good as it was when I was leveling mind because it worked very well with non force melee passive quell

olive ember
#

In case people wondered

#

CBT builds SUCKED lmao

rocky cedar
#

I only got to play a little Zealot in CBT

olive ember
#

1-2-3-3-3-3 or some shit

#

was the CBT build iirc

rocky cedar
#

I think I started my Psyker not long after release

olive ember
#

well most people only got to like level 20 in the CBT

#

wait

#

no

#

it was even worse

spice veldt
#

i only played psyker after they nerfed the force sword push

wet belfry
#

Veteran was actually awful back then to play

olive ember
#

people ran wrack and ruin up until like the last day of the CBT

#

because no one knew how much the dot was doing

wet belfry
#

Any attack would deal damage to your health

olive ember
#

otherwise no

spice veldt
#

oh right literally anyone with 100+ toughness took health damage

olive ember
#

psyker doesn't have the plasma gun cringe

spice veldt
#

imagine having had 200 base toughness during that time

#

smh

olive ember
#

it was a meme

#

it also sucked playing vet

#

that was the period I was leveling my vet

#

actually aids

steel flame
#

Guys I think playing psyker has spoiled me KEKW_ogryn I can't bring myself to finish leveling up the rest of my classes. Ogryn and vet put me to sleep, so I probably will only level up zealot maybe

#

Maybe

safe crystal
#

Level up more psykers so you get more Milkies rolls

olive ember
#

malice gaming moment

#

trash teammates

uneven drift
#

Not so different from heresy nowadays.

steel flame
olive ember
#

meh

safe crystal
#

:>

uneven drift
#

Don't forget to include "boobs" in their names.

steel flame
#

Master8008s

olive ember
#

left me for dead

#

so i've been playing the entire event at half hp

#

still more hp than the rest of em

#

welp that was tilting

#

basically retard randomly hit a barrel even though I was behind him

#

so i got stuck behind

steel flame
#

Noice

olive ember
#

and then 3 ragers spawned on my ass followed by a poxhound

#

so obviously I got fucked and when I called out his dumbass these retards just started rushing ahead and let me die when I was tring to deal with a reaper and got poxhounded

steel flame
#

If you tilt hard enough maybe you can rotate the table back around to being flat

olive ember
#

maybe

#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

steel flame
#

I know what really tilts me is when 5 pox burters ignore my push in a single game and leave me in a perpetual state of almost dead

olive ember
#

or when you push them properly but you have shit dodge distance

#

and somehow get hit by the explosion even though you dodged backwards

steel flame
#

That's why I like laspistol. When the push registers I can kill them a mile off and through walls

#

And I dont have to dodge

olive ember
#

Thats why I like the surge staff

#

no need to push when you just stun them to shit

steel flame
#

I BANISH YOU TO THE SHADOWREALM POXBURSTER! BEGONE

magic burrow
#

they should make the staff special attack a force push attack

steel flame
#

It seems oddly natural for the zealot chat to be the horny channel.......

olive ember
#

my 2nd malice game has a wrack and ruin psyker

#

oo

#

oof

steel flame
#

Rude

#

Wrack and ruin is baller

magic burrow
#

In malice you can run pretty much anything. Malice is the fun difficulty level.

uneven drift
#

Malice is lvling difficulty. Heresy where is fun begins with not so hard pushing enemies.

wet belfry
#

With enough faith you can run anything in damnation.

#

👍

#

Just belive in the Emperor your teammates

olive ember
#

I mean

#

ik

#

MetaPsykerTM is damnation approved after all

safe crystal
#

Its hi5 approved

#

😠

wet belfry
#

We had two wonderful shield ogryns yesterday

steel flame
#

Boooo meta is fuckin lame

#

Laspistol psykers rise up

wet belfry
#

They were great spectators i will say.

olive ember
#

idk what you talking about

#

no one runs it because the elitists keep the build a secret from the rest of the community

wet belfry
#

Admitely we did forget to pick up the ogryns once they died.

steel flame
#

Happy birthday

#

Still need better blessings tiers

wet belfry
#

Do you use all or nothing?

olive ember
#

all or nothing is literally meme tier bad

#

if you are asking legit

safe crystal
#

It affects all staff and BB damage though

#

Does it affect guns?

wet belfry
#

^

steel flame
safe crystal
#

Yeah, i know. It does affect BB and staves, at least though

#

So might work for guns as well

steel flame
#

It's on your melee weapons. How would it affect your staff -_-

safe crystal
#

Well

#

Thats the mystery

#

The game works in mysterious ways

#

Voidstrike goes from 678 to 705 with a T3 all or nothing

#

Tested on reaper, that is

steel flame
#

That's because you can swap to your melee while the bolt is in the air

safe crystal
#

But i didnt switch .__.

steel flame
#

Oh its that bug again

#

I thought they patched that out already

safe crystal
#

Looks like they missed all or nothing

#

Not blaming them, the blessing is horrible

wet belfry
#

This bug is anyways the only thing keeping the blessing somewhat relevant right now.

steel flame
#

Wouldn't be the worst of the bonus wasn't garbage

olive ember
#

failed a low five damnation because the team played like it was malice bleh

#

literally ran into a group of beserkers while there was still an entire squad of shotgunners and stalkers shooting em

safe crystal
#

Low damnation is full of people who jumped from malice because the plasteel changes :L

olive ember
#

feelsbadmoment

#

welp i guess I won't be able to get that mission off my damnation checklist

#

also yeah

safe crystal
#

How long is it still there? I can hop in for a run

olive ember
#

one vet legit got downed by a bulwark

#

we failed

#

one vet got downed by a bulwark cuz he was too busy grabbing diamantine

#

even tho I pinged the bulwark

#

and then another teammate was a psyker who somehow blew up while using the voidstrike

#

if that psyker is in this channel

#

please use transfer peril on voidstrike

#

@safe crystal yeah we um

#

failed

steel flame
#

I dunno why anyone would want to play low intensity damnation it's sooooooooo booooooooring

olive ember
#

XD

#

because I wanted to get it off my "missions to beat on damnation" checklist

#

didn't expect the damn team to wipe tho

safe crystal
#

I've been dragging my friends who started playing the game last week into low int damnation

olive ember
#

bruh

#

was that a smart move?

safe crystal
#

Although they do have experience from VT games

#

Yeah, i did the same in VT

olive ember
#

I mean if you down feel free to invite

safe crystal
#

Just drag their asses to cataclysm chaos wastes when they're level 20

olive ember
#

I screwed up my sleep schedule

#

so yeah

#

woke up at 2 AM it is now 4 AM

feral crater
#

Chaos wastes was really fun and the mechanics are quite forgiving. Unless you get yeeted off the side of the map ofcourse 😄

forest coral
#

I would be so happy if we get rogue like campaign for darktide

#

Chaos wastes was so much fun

feral crater
#

will take about 5 years. Remember, darktide is a regression, not a sequel

forest coral
orchid venture
#

My theory is that this 2nd hive city our characters keep talking about is what our version of chaos wastes will be

olive ember
#

ouchies

safe crystal
#

I mean, it did go pretty well

olive ember
#

ogryn forgot he had medkit on him

safe crystal
#

He,uh

#

Forgot a lot of things

olive ember
#

XD

#

wat was score anyways

#

curious

#

cuz i know I couldn't tap heads for shit

safe crystal
#

I didnt take a screenshot, it was something something 158/146/132/59

#

Ogryn with the 59

olive ember
#

XD

#

alright

safe crystal
#

I fell down into a corner and couldnt get out in the end

olive ember
#

I wish I was playing psyker rip

#

couldve clutched that easily

#

surge staff into a BB for the mutant and then i'd just peril block revive

steel flame
safe crystal
steel flame
#

Clientside pain

#

Fair enough

#

I just want a vermintide 2 scoreboard in darktide

#

Hurry da f up Fatshark

olive ember
#

immeasurably complex

forest coral
#

Immeasurably complex

formal flume
uneven drift
formal flume
#

Good ol’ toxicity

vagrant furnace
#

No scoreboard no toxicity = more players that what they were thinking

#

Nobody plays call of duty and csgo because of toxicity anyway bern

steel flame
#

Next they'll get rid of text chat or start recording our VC. It's a slippery ass slope

formal flume
#

While I agree, that’s a bit much

#

||Besides, tencent’s already recording that info anyways.||

steel flame
#

The real way to make a less toxic Game is to follow Deep Rock Galactics example. Manifest a community so positive that toxicity ceases to exist

forest coral
#

Ff14 somehow got rid of most toxicity too, even tho def still exists in rare instance

steel flame
#

We got scoreboards in deeprock and it don't get our titties in a bunch, but hey, maybe dwarves are just built different

forest coral
#

Yeh

#

I miss tf2

#

Literally had achievements for making people rage quit after dominating them

#

And that was still one of the most positive community games I’ve played

young spear
#

i never get psykers

#

but when i play psyker i get 3 other psykers on my team

#

siblings stay together

steel flame
#

It went downhill after comparative was added

forest coral
#

I didn’t play ranked

#

Probably why

steel flame
#

Ranked ruined Freeplay too

#

I hate eSports worming it's way into my game. It ruins everything it touches

#

Why can't we just have fun anymore. Maybe I don't want it to be a competition

forest coral
#

Doesn’t have to be

#

I’d still like a darktide scoreboard at the end tho

#

If not to be a judgemental bitch, then gauge how well I personally did

steel flame
forest coral
#

Or how effective a certain build avg is

steel flame
#

Oh I still want a scoreboard

forest coral
#

Yes

formal flume
olive ember
forest coral
#

It’s main reason I liked scoreboards in vermintide

olive ember
#

too bad its a dueling sword

forest coral
#

Can can gauge ur personal performance with meme builds

steel flame
forest coral
#

What’s wrong with duelling sword

olive ember
#

its a dueling sword

#

bad weapon

steel flame
#

#hottake

forest coral
#

#ratio

steel flame
#

I don't like it either personally but I see what people think is good

olive ember
#

Autopistol on psyker is actually pretty good

#

you can make up the lack of range and anti armor with BB

formal flume
steel flame
olive ember
#

almost the exact same then

steel flame
#

Still.looking for the higher tier blessings but it still rolls through damnation without much issue

olive ember
#

ruined axe

steel flame
#

Wot?

#

Oh the perks

steel flame
#

Oof

olive ember
#

decap is also not good

steel flame
# formal flume Very noice

The crit kill Regen on the pistol along with warp charge Regen more that make up for not having a staff

#

I've got a 25% crit chance on the pistol so I proc the Regen constantly

olive ember
#

I tried out wrack and ruin

#

not it

#

run warp resist

steel flame
#

It's really good vs mixed hordes

olive ember
#

ehhh

#

it screws over your KB tho

#

with warp resist you can basically KB through the entire duration

steel flame
#

Kb a crusher and bulwarks and you can really melt shit

formal flume
young spear
#

never even knew this blessing existed

formal flume
#

(Sorry for taking awhile to respond, currently playing)

cold geode
young spear
#

yea

cold geode
#

It's p.sweet

young spear
#

is it?

cold geode
#

Yea

gentle rose
#

depends how good the weapons hipfire is, on some weapons its trash imo, but on the purgatus its pretty nice

steel flame
formal flume
#

Ye, figured this guide was outdated. Lol

steel flame
#

A bit yes

olive ember
#

its really bad

formal flume
#

Unfortunately I couldn’t really find too many things as of recent.

olive ember
#

you can only use your lmb with it

#

cant use rmb

steel flame
#

I've tried recon a few times with my builds but haven't had as much luck as with laspistol, granted one is crowd clear and the other is high damage single target

olive ember
#

autopistol is stupid because it can deal with anything besides carapace as long as you are close

steel flame
#

I've reached the conclusion that trying to reach into crowd clear territory with guns on psyker leads to being ok at everything but great at nothing. So for my gun psyker I lean all into murdering elites as fast as possible. Laceration makes ogryns fold like paper and everything else gets critted and flayered to death in seconds

#

But I haven't played around with auto pistol yet so that view may change

olive ember
#

I mean idk

#

psyker special/elite killing power is basically their BB

#

the laspistol to my knowledge isn't that good against those

#

its only mainly good against shooters

ionic frost
#

I need to try autopistol...

olive ember
#

the autopistols are rly blessing dependant

#

you want a t4 pinning fire and a t3 blaze away

#

like both of em

steel flame
ionic frost
#

but antax with purg staff, 322113 has helped me clutch hard

steel flame
#

So I use laceration and wrack and ruin to melt down ogryns and everything around them, and kill specials on 3 shots with laspistol

ionic frost
#

is there a cap on wrack and ruin stacks?

steel flame
#

31

ionic frost
#

so no

#

=D

steel flame
#

Not that you will ever get that high xP

ionic frost
#

or # of enemies>

steel flame
#

Nope

ionic frost
#

stacks

#

=D

steel flame
#

Just radius

ionic frost
#

31 enemies?

#

3.1 m?

steel flame
#

31 stacks of soulblaze

ionic frost
#

ok

#

i think that might finish the god emperor of mankind

#

so many stacks

steel flame
#

It's only 3 stacks per bb hit

#

You'll never feasibly reach 31

ionic frost
#

but then civilization would end and he would resurrect later

#

yeah... =D

steel flame
#

But 9 is enough to kill mobs

ionic frost
#

does it count monstrosities>

steel flame
#

No

#

It needs to though

ionic frost
#

31 stacks would be nice on them... =(

#

not cheezing any penance

#

still need malleus and every shot counts

#

and both ogryn 4's

#

and preacher 20min

#

almost got the preacher malleus while 2 ppl were dead, but the other guy did too much damage =(

#

i mean psycker

#

I feel like soloing a monstrosity for the penance would be so rewarding... =)

#

probably would've been easier before they nerfed non-force melee weapons =(

steel flame
ionic frost
#

I mean that as a happenstance thing...

#

Not trying to do it, it just happens.

#

only two people alive they're holding everything else off, and you kil lthe beast!

steel flame
#

That actually happens alot on damnation

ionic frost
#

I almost got it

#

but i didn't do 90% of the damage =(

#

didn't have the +25% dmg feat on tho

steel flame
#

Usually we can leave the zealot to the monster while we keep mobs off him

ionic frost
#

got pick n mix that same game =D

steel flame
#

I still don't have that one

ionic frost
#

I mostly pub

steel flame
#

Very unlucky

#

Ill get 4 constantly but never 5

ionic frost
#

I got it clutching...all 3 others were dead =D

steel flame
#

Nice

ionic frost
#

saved the game, no medkit for assassination boss, they all scattered and died

steel flame
#

You might hurt your back if you pat it any harder

ionic frost
#

it already hurts

#

=(

#

need a better antax:

steel flame
#

Stick limbsplitter on it

#

Brutal moment tier doesn't matter all that much

cold geode
#

They removed t3/4 blessings from the hourly shop correct? I remember the devs or someone official saying that? Or am I crazy

steel flame
#

Wouldn't put it past them

ionic frost
#

I got a T3 blessing 2 days ago from it

olive ember
#

lmao

ionic frost
#

only one i've seen since patch

#

i play 4 chars every day

#

it does seem like the reduced the chance tho

olive ember
#

supposedly you aren't supposed to get anything above t2

#

so if you do then its a bug

ionic frost
#

i passed up on some blessings i would've bought in the past if i knew how the system would work, not just through rumors

#

I did just roll this though:

#

@olive ember Did they state that that's a bug, or is it just supposed to be super rare>

#

?

olive ember
#

who knows

#

just assume its super super rare

#

at best

#

and to not expect to ever see one at worst

ionic frost
#

I missed out on an 80/80/80/80/52% charge rate surge staff T3 crit chance because I didn't look at the timer and when I clicked buy it wouldn't let me get it...It was blue in the armoury exchange... =(

#

like 2 months ago

olive ember
#

feelsbad

ionic frost
#

At least I finally got my first T4 ghost blessing...

#

Though I don't think I'll dissolve the pistol.

#

i think it could do some work on damnation

steel flame
#

That should be a really good pistol

#

It's perfect for taking down reapers since you can just stand there and headshot and nothing can touch you

#

Almost perfect

clear hamlet
#

Another day another crap milk rotation

#

Today he didn't even have the decency to bring a staff

summer prairie
#

I think I had like 3 or 4 370+ items

olive ember
clear hamlet
#

Never seen one before

#

I'm stuck with a purgatus I got from emperor's blessing

summer prairie
#

This is pretty good but I don't need it

clear hamlet
#

Stats sub optimal but I'll take it over gambaing 2 rolls over 25+minutes in brunts only to have it brick

tired totem
olive ember
olive ember
#

throwing away god rolls

steel flame
#

Wot

#

That ain't no godroll

#

Rip blast radius

leaden thunder
#

on voidstrike?

#

the blast radius scaling is terrible

steel egret
#

Yeah

#

Stat Im least interested of

leaden thunder
#

like the difference between 0% and 80% is very small and the blast doesn't deal a lot of damage

#

iirc

hybrid solstice
#

for me a godroll VS would be like 60 warp resist, 80 everything else

river sand
#

nah blast radius is more the dumpstat

#

if got a 57% blast radius and a 80%, the epicentre is 1.27 vs 1.33

leaden thunder
#

^

#

it's marginally more important if you want to run blazing spirit on it

#

but that's only 4 fun anyway

summer prairie
#

My current one is maybe very marginally worse, doesn't seem worth. Not like there are different builds I could use it for

#

Melk also has this

leaden thunder
#

could be neat

hybrid solstice
austere estuary
#

rending IV trying to get my melk marks D:

near gale
#

I got that blessing from the trauma staff I called a lawn ornament >.>

austere estuary
#

wish I had the marks for it

#

or the time to farm them

leaden thunder
#

tfw rending shockwave doesn't actually apply rending anymore

austere estuary
#

it's brittleness

leaden thunder
#

yeah

#

well

austere estuary
#

iirc they said it always was?

leaden thunder
#

it always was

austere estuary
#

yeah

near gale
#

for how long?

leaden thunder
#

if something says +x rending

#

it means brittleness

near gale
#

Is it the same as the other one at 3s?

leaden thunder
#

no idea tbh

#

it's either 3-5 seconds

#

or indefinetely

austere estuary
#

but +8 rending in AoE with a knockdown

#

is just like

leaden thunder
#

very nice support

austere estuary
#

free ticket for your team to delete a pack of crushers etc

#

maulers

leaden thunder
#

it only increases the truama's damage vs infested

#

which is funny

#

but it's very nice support

near gale
austere estuary
#

rending on trauma works vs carapace too, just that it only affects your primary so

#

really more about letting team rip em up even with weps that wouldn't normally

leaden thunder
#

fair enough, I forget about the primary fires alot tbh

austere estuary
#

yeah

#

hardly use it

near gale
#

Doesn't the trauma staff do a decent amount of damage to Crushers, as well? at full blast damage

austere estuary
#

it does yes

near gale
#

in the epicenter

austere estuary
#

but the blast itself doesn't care about armor in the first place

near gale
#

Last time I looked it was like ~800

austere estuary
#

so it doesn't itself benefit from the rend

near gale
#

Yeah, I know it's a team buff

austere estuary
#

but yeah

#

trauma damage is good again with the buff to 25% at high peril and warp charges etc

#

feels more like when I was running executor on FS when those crossed over before patch

#

thank goodness

near gale
#

I've been finding the chainsword to be pretty fun, on Psyker and Zealot

#

The heavies are pretty quick too

leaden thunder
#

I still need to get a good one on my zelot

near gale
#

I wonder... would brittleness help the chainsword's rip damage?

leaden thunder
#

it should yes

near gale
#

vs crushers specifically

leaden thunder
#

I can shoot one with my rending bolter(actually brittleness) and test how much it changes

near gale
#

I've steered clear of cleave blessings on the chainsword/eviscerator, ever since I learned how it interacts with the rev attack

leaden thunder
#

you still should probably have 1

near gale
#

Having my heavy rev go through something...

#

its pain

leaden thunder
#

I think only dstrike will really fuck it up vs the targets that matter

near gale
#

I've had some pretty bad luck <.<

#

In fact... I have pretty bad luck quite often... I am just used to it.

lethal folio
#

It would feel better if the rev charge wasn't used if it didn't bite anything.

trail jackal
#

Is it worth investing into melee + fire psyker on damnation or am I better off just spamming with trauma

near gale
#

Purgatus melts stuff, if used right

leaden thunder
#

Fire goodthumbsup_ogryn

echo turtle
#

I would not sleep on that

solemn ibex
#

can someone post a godrolled void staff? please

rich rose
river sand
#

not godrolled but best i got

solemn ibex
#

thank you

river sand
#

i really had a blast with the surge one, if you animation cancel (not machingunning uncharged) as long as you chain 10 or less full charges. it take the same time for both staffs. so flurry outshines if you chain more than 10 full charges

near gale
leaden thunder
#

and it does

#

but not very much

#

against a crusher at least

wide tiger
leaden thunder
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no rending it does like 101-65-65-214

wide tiger
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at least it fixes that stupid delay between charging though 😛

leaden thunder
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with rending it does like 127-90-90-300

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on a heavy rev

lethal folio
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Animation cancelling is an accepted clever use of game mechanics.

leaden thunder
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^

lethal folio
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If an animation cancel gets too silly it sometimes gets addressed.

river sand
wide tiger
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yeah in this case it increases dps, especially on primary fire by a large margin

leaden thunder
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in 90% of games at least

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you can do it with a couple of weapons

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laspistol and the non purge staves to name a few

wide tiger
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increases my fire rate by almost 100%

leaden thunder
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rapid fire laspistol must be crazy now

sonic coral
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Does Decimator (chaining more than 2 attacks gives +x Power) have to be attacks chained against a single target?

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I replaced the other blessing because it was a crappy T1 but wondering if I'll have to swap headtaker to brutal momentum

rich rose
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How are you taking screen shots? I still havent figured that out

leaden thunder
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we are discussing that in zealot chat rn I think

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f12

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be defualt on steam