psyker-class

[steel flame]

Not till it triggers

[echo turtle]

again tho, it depends

[viral solstice]

so does voidstrike

secret techamajamology

[ember hornet]

is unstable the equivalent of all or nothing aka shit

[echo turtle]

if theres shit around you, you can’t necessarily get the attack off

it stacks 4-5 times

[viral solstice]

unstable is like all or nothing except instead of being actually shit its tooltip doesnt say it stacks 4x

[echo turtle]

it just doesnt say that

[viral solstice]

[echo turtle]

XD

[ember hornet]

unstable stacks oh ok

thanks fatshark

[echo turtle]

secret wizard tech

[viral solstice]

so tier 4 is 20% power

and because fs special gets u to 100% peril without killing u

safely

[ember hornet]

so it's all or nothing, except not ass

[viral solstice]

u get full benefit

[echo turtle]

power also affects soulblaze damage

[viral solstice]

u got a problem with ass bro

[echo turtle]

so +20% from that, + 20% from thw feat

• 24% from charges

it all adds up

[ember hornet]

what's giving the soulblaze though

[echo turtle]

power adds to soulblze damage

[cyan notch]

25 for feat

[viral solstice]

on mine that sword is going to be soulblaze on crit and bloodthirsty (100% crit after special kill)

[echo turtle]

so if you hve a weapon like that where it can get + power

[viral solstice]

its fire sword

i just dont have bloodthirsty yet

[echo turtle]

I personally think thats a waste

[viral solstice]

i mean

[echo turtle]

arguably with bloodthirsty therwa somethinf

buuuut

just take a fire staff lol

anyways

[ember hornet]

no I mean if I'm running power feats and what not for FS then what gives soulblaze

[viral solstice]

i have zero interest in a good force sword

[cyan notch]

its about fun

[viral solstice]

i want memes

[ember hornet]

or is that inherent and I have no idea what the passives are

[echo turtle]

I think there is confusion

[viral solstice]

on my sword is just blessin

[echo turtle]

whenever from anything you get + power. enemies with DoT damage receive more damage

thats not very important

but like you could take out a shredder and trigger yoru ult

[ember hornet]

is this for running with purg

[echo turtle]

then get 150% damage on the dots from the power

[ember hornet]

I'm just wondering what the source of soulblaze would be

[echo turtle]

lets not get hung up on that

diesnt matter

[cyan notch]

mostly just ascendant blaze

[viral solstice]

imported soulblaze

dont question the source

it fell off the back of a cargo ship

[ember hornet]

lol

[echo turtle]

Anyways

that sword with maniac damage will 1 hit muties

sorry for potato quality

[ember hornet]

I have a tip for you

[echo turtle]

I need to get a way to screenshot down here

[ember hornet]

shift + windows key + s

[echo turtle]

no

[ember hornet]

draw a rectanglen

paste to discord

done

[viral solstice]

u cant control me

[echo turtle]

I do cardio and play with a controllee

[cyan notch]

looks like hes on a controller

[echo turtle]

no keybord

[ember hornet]

oh god

a controller

[echo turtle]

I am on a cellphone on discord

[ember hornet]

good thing you play psyker

[echo turtle]

Lol I play zealot too

braced autogun vet

[ember hornet]

sounds like pure pain for zealot

imagine using a hammer with a controller

[echo turtle]

controller is lit for melee

you don’t need rhe janky swing

[spice veldt]

I guess just bring a keyboard/mouse and an extension cable if you've got extra ports

[echo turtle]

ita got a huge arc

[ember hornet]

I'd love to see your hammer gameplay

[viral solstice]

um u cant accurately behead with ur samurai sword if u dont have the precision of the mastercrafted mouse

[echo turtle]

True

[ember hornet]

and compare it to my 500 hours of mouse and keyboard hammer lol

[echo turtle]

But I can dodge around probably better

I have yet to get a good hammer

[ember hornet]

hammer is the only weapon I've used since closed beta

[echo turtle]

but I top charts on T5 with the wizard

[ember hornet]

I keep getting 2nd on scoreboard

[viral solstice]

i top charts on t6

but i keep it quiet

[ember hornet]

beating a vet seems impossible

[echo turtle]

its hard for zealot

[ember hornet]

I mean on psyker

[viral solstice]

actually quite easy if u got da voidus strikus

but u just need da techamology

[echo turtle]

do lots of BBs

[ember hornet]

not a brauto vet lol

[cyan notch]

but now u just mentioned it

[echo turtle]

make sure you can clear horde with something

then ur always killing

[viral solstice]

no u did

y u spilling the beans

[ember hornet]

tbf my weapons are still low rating with no blessings

[viral solstice]

traitor

yea the good shit is quite blessin dependent

[cyan notch]

is this what being gaslit feels like

[viral solstice]

but no voidstrike put up gud numbers

eg 400k in 30mins

ees not bad

[cyan notch]

fabricated and untrue

[viral solstice]

[cyan notch]

he farmed for 20mins at hordes at the end

[ember hornet]

my first level 30 emp gift was a knife

[viral solstice]

im so sorry

[ember hornet]

plz delete knife fatshark

it will be a better game

[cyan notch]

its ok u were just trying to get the 1m kills frame

[spice veldt]

that other player had 0 damage taken

[viral solstice]

he was just chillin

it was a very easy run tbh

[echo turtle]

the knife slaps

[ember hornet]

no

[echo turtle]

one of the best psyker weapons

[ember hornet]

stop

stop

[echo turtle]

uh yeah it does

[ember hornet]

stop it

[viral solstice]

u cant escape

da nife

[ember hornet]

I'm losing respect with every message

[echo turtle]

It straight up is

[cyan notch]

u can do cool tricks qqing tho itd pretty fun

u do the knife throw and shiiiing wooosh

[ember hornet]

the knife is an abomination

[echo turtle]

psyker stam delay being .5 seconds lets you block push strike super fast with it

lol no

[cyan notch]

fancy fingerwork

[ember hornet]

it tricks everyone into thinking they can play damnation, and then they are all terrible

[echo turtle]

I have been running knife in T5 for a month

I slaughter

[ember hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

I believe you, I just hate the knife for what it did to the zealot

[lunar hollow]

hello psyker chat

i dont come here often

[echo turtle]

I don’t feel the need to prove myself, I have footage of T5 games crushing with it

[lunar hollow]

how shit is this

[echo turtle]

before I even got mercy kill on it

[ember hornet]

woo 20% damage

[lunar hollow]

i am aware of the bugged nature of warp flurry

[echo turtle]

It’s very good on the psyker when you run kinetic deflection

and it help’s you not die, with large dodges

very good weapon

[ember hornet]

you would be 1 out of 100 psykers that can use it

but I understand if it's not driven by an idiot it can be good

it's mostly pub knifers that are offenders

[cyan notch]

sucks vs ragers and crushers

[viral solstice]

[cyan notch]

decent ur losing like 1 stack from burn but other stats are good

[spice veldt]

cloud radius is high which is really the important thing

[lunar hollow]

thats what i thought i just havent played much psyker and wanted to make sure

[viral solstice]

also one shotting shotgunners with voidstrike is cool

[lunar hollow]

i wonder how useless kinetic flayer would be with purgatus

brainburst random poxwalker constantly

[spice veldt]

good nuff for maintaining warp charges

[lunar hollow]

you make a good point

[viral solstice]

everybody gettin surge

i wanna surge

but congrats on da sorge

[cyan notch]

[daring cobalt]

it is vroom

been trying for power cycler on vet for weeks but today melk gave me surge to ease the pain

[grizzled jasper]

yooo this is pretty nice

[cyan notch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1080182611785298052/1082456889675235368/image.png

(not mine)

[daring cobalt]

hnnng

[proven raven]

I regularly run it because you can kinda game it a bit if you pay attention to when it can trigger.
Purgatus gives lots of hits very rapidly, and meatier targets tend to get it triggered very rapidly (in my experience)

[surreal eagle]

How are you guys liking them psyker buffs?

[proven raven]

What psyker buffs /s

[restive slate]

Is it really rare to get Power Cycler? I've not seen one in the shop before

[pearl lion]

What is that vet nonsense doing in the cool psyker club

[forest coral]

Vykers

[surreal eagle]

The two talents on the 2nd line that no one wants because peril resist is always better anyways

[pearl lion]

I think power cycler is minimum t3 or 4, so yeah it wont show up in bux shop

[daring cobalt]

ive been playing since beta, checked melk every day and upgraded dozens and dozens of power swords and still havent seen it

[restive slate]

Veterans are all psykers using their abilities to see the souls of gunners, change my mind

[forest coral]

Psykers are actually just zealots with the souls of daemonhosts, change my mind

[proven raven]

When Ogryn psyker subclass

[restive slate]

Daemonhosts are Psykers who failed Damnation missions

[forest coral]

buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

[daring cobalt]

the soulblaze stack buff today is still an unuseable feat

[feral verge]

no

it's huge

changed psyker gaming forever

if uaint running it u bummin it

[daring cobalt]

#teambum

[lethal folio]

Wrack and ruin is good.

[devout axle]

Wrack and Ruin is definitely not good.

[grizzled jasper]

bulwarks are fallen shield mains

[restive slate]

All the fallen vet mains?

[devout axle]

Ragers are just fallen zealot mains

[viral solstice]

[devout axle]

Flamers are also fallen zealot mains. Just a different breed.

[viral solstice]

wrack and ruin has a cool name

[forest coral]

Pox bursters

[devout axle]

Soulblaze had a cool name in CBT too, when they called them AGONY Stacks instead of Soulblaze.

[grizzled jasper]

pox bursters are psykers trying to get their penance

[viral solstice]

bring bak cool name

[daring cobalt]

top kek

[steel flame]

What. All anyone is looking at is the range and stack increase. What you actually need to look at is the fact that it procs on BB HIT now instead of kill meaning you can stack stupid stacks of soulblaze with barrage

[viral solstice]

it did that already

i think is why ppl arent talkin about it

its just the tooltip didnt reflect that

they changed that aspect previously

but dint tooltip

[steel flame]

Well they sure didn't advertise that fact at any point in the past

[viral solstice]

yeah i thought it was a bug

hadnt played psyker in a while

came back

messed around with wrack and ruin

shits triggering on hit

[steel flame]

I never saw that change in any patch notes anywhere

[viral solstice]

and im just like

wat

[devout axle]

Is also completely irrelevant since things don't survive being brainbursted enough to stack stupid amounts of blaze. Nor does it have the range to make those stacks matter for clearing commons. You'll do infinitely more just stacking blaze on enemies with Purg staff. Or even just using a 6 charge AB ult.

[steel flame]

You can get 3 stacks off bulwarks, 4 stacks off crushers, 2 stacks off maulers and maniac rages

[cyan notch]

in the crafting patch

[devout axle]

3 stacks off Bulwarks ... on what? 6 commons?

[steel flame]

I usually take laceration with my laspistol and wrack so I'm just getting 2 but still, that's enough to clean the trash

I just wish monsters counted as elites so we could proc off them

[devout axle]

On what difficulty? Because on Heresy and Damnation, 6 stacks of Soulblaze is barely half of a commons health.

On Damnation, its not even half

[steel flame]

Crusher?

Da hell is a common

[devout axle]

Commons. Poxwalkers and Groaners if you want technical terms.

[spice veldt]

l4d2 terminology

[devout axle]

I'm using the L4D term because that's what is ingrained in me.

[steel flame]

Fair enough

[surreal eagle]

Had to go and test it. Does 197 damage in aoe from 1 BB Wrack and ruin

[ember hornet]

havent rerolled perk yet but this feels nice

[forest coral]

It’s decent

[viral solstice]

yee

even with that u will be already feelin peril not such big problemo

[ember hornet]

what do I want, unarmored?

[viral solstice]

flak/unarmoured is the dream

[placid crypt]

I'm happy

[ember hornet]

makes sense

[viral solstice]

with max rolls and warp + 25% unarmorued u can one shot a dreg gunner

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075774179665772566/1082728515394355332/image.png

dis is quite tazty

[devout axle]

I personally like Carapace on my Void staff so I can lazy spam it on Crushers and Maulers.

[viral solstice]

i usually 4-shot them but havent tested if i could move it up

improob da spoob

[devout axle]

I haven't either tbh. I don't use the staff often enough to care.

[viral solstice]

but i must kill the shotgunner squad

[devout axle]

I only bring Void when I don't want to put any effort in.

[viral solstice]

so flak cannot go

die potgunners die

impreeb da speeb

[surreal eagle]

I think for wrack and ruin to be viable it needs to make up for the 1 extra BB you can cast from Inner Tranquility in AOE damage. And it does.... So I wouldn't write it off entirely

[lunar hollow]

big E has gifted me this

i think he mixed up the blade and a pool noodle

[viral solstice]

thnak u big e

[devout axle]

Sad damage.

[lethal folio]

Wrack means when you smite the crusher in a pack, all his friends are going to die

[lunar hollow]

is there any hope at all for this wretched item

[viral solstice]

well u can just extract the rampage

suck out the juices

[devout axle]

I mean, its still got mobility I guess?

[viral solstice]

[devout axle]

But you aren't gonna be two-tapping Mutants with it.

[lunar hollow]

it looks pretty damnation ready to me smh

im gonna take it to gold just to see what happens

[viral solstice]

dont let anybody dull ur sparkle

[lunar hollow]

lets pretend the damage stat was higher

how good would it be

[viral solstice]

HELL yea

i mean uncanny strike is just fun

slappin people in da face

[lunar hollow]

what do i reroll groaners and poxwalkers to

[viral solstice]

flak

if in doubt

[lunar hollow]

well i ran out of plasteel on melee weakspot damage

[viral solstice]

quite right

target those weak spots

[lunar hollow]

im going for the head

[primal fjord]

If I'm thinking of messing with Gun-Psyker, which model of Recon Lasgun should I be looking for?

[lethal folio]

VId or II

[devout axle]

I like the VId with Infernus blessing personally.

[surreal eagle]

Alright I stand corrected psyker buff did do something, wrack and ruin is pretty nice. It can proc on kinetic flayer too. I think i'm going to start using it over peril resist

[cyan notch]

what the hell is Vld

what was fatshark smoking when coming up with that mark

[devout axle]

That, Kinetic Flayer and Wrack and Ruin feels like it should work together. But it tends to not more often than it does.

[cyan notch]

there are an infinite number of marks and only like 2 were taken but them mfs went and said yea lets go with vld

[devout axle]

They really need to reduce the CD on Kinetic Flayer so it can compete with Warp Battery. Also need to make it so it only triggers on Elites and Specialists.

Feels really bad wasting your one KF every 15 seconds because it procced off you hitting a common once..

[spice veldt]

i hate it when it triggers on a target that I'm special-ing with my Force sword

cuz it won't trigger bloodthirsty

but otherwise, it's nice for maintaining warp charges cuz I hate BBing

[lethal folio]

Accatran IVe was taken already

[surreal eagle]

I actually highly pref using kinetic flayer just to keep the stacks up and not having to use psychic communion over psychic aura

[devout axle]

Sure its okay for maintaining warp charges. That's what it was good for before the warp charge buff. But its design feels counterintuitive, especially for its level.

[feral verge]

the duelling sword is sex

[devout axle]

That can't be right

I have a dueling sword

[feral verge]

mk4 gang rise up

drippiest sword

[spice veldt]

what's counterintuitive about the design; the whole cool down limit on it?

[feral verge]

its the tassle

[devout axle]

The whole "this talent is only really useable as a lazy qol talent" rather than actually being something to enable brain burst synergies.

Kinetic Flayer feels like it should be there to proc things like 'Wrack and Ruin' or 'Cerebral Laceractions' through alternative methods.

[feral verge]

ik its reddit

[lunar hollow]

this sucks

why am i doing this

[feral verge]

but reddit says mk4 is the best dueling sword

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11ap7as/dueling_sword_opinions/

[forest coral]

Reddit

[devout axle]

But since you usually end up wasting it on common trash, that synergy is wasted alongside it.

[feral verge]

ik, ik

[surreal eagle]

Hmmm would be nice if it prioritized elites

[devout axle]

Mk4 is the most aesthetically pleasing. From the beautiful hilt to the "For the Emperor" inscribed on its blade. Its also safer to fight hordes with than the Mk5.

But the Mk5 is so much better for killing Elites, its ridiculous.

[feral verge]

yeah mk4 sexist

sexiest

[surreal eagle]

FS and BB already has your elite killing covered. Purg for crowed. So I guess M4 is highly favored if you don't want to run purg.

[viral solstice]

just run the weapons u vibe with

live ur troof

i ran a 47% devil claw on my vet for like 50 hours because i like parries

[feral verge]

no

there's a right and a wrong weapon

[viral solstice]

yes

[feral verge]

all the weapons i like are right

everyone else's are wrong

[viral solstice]

the right weapon is the weapon reading this post

respected

[feral verge]

:)

[lethal folio]

IV doesn't have any block delay so you can do snappy block cancels.

[surreal eagle]

Ah I heard about that

[feral verge]

what do yall use the stab special for

i've been using it to stun

and style points

but wondering if it has any further applications

ik it comes out v fast if ur in a combo

[surreal eagle]

Game crashed after switching builds

[feral verge]

i've had that twice

[surreal eagle]

[feral verge]

having zero luck with trauma staff building

maybe ill try farming dueling sword 4 blessings

[rocky cedar]

On V it links straight into the overhead light which is much much stronger than the other light attacks

Special light repeat on V makes for a very safe rager combo

[devout axle]

Holy shit this actually works.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah I used to be a IV fan but I'm fully converted to V now

The mobility, the way better single target

Still think it's kind of a worse knife

[devout axle]

I think its a much better knife tbh.

[rocky cedar]

But it's easier horde clear and gets massive style points

[devout axle]

Only thing Knife has over it is bleed stacking.

[rocky cedar]

God no

Bleed knife is a meme

Just get uncanny, use KD, and spam push attack

It just works

[viral solstice]

i dont believe in push attacks

straight up

they dont exist

ppl say they do

[devout axle]

I ain't push attack spamming on the class with the lowest base Stamina.

[viral solstice]

but they dont appear on the historical record until AFTER the founding of the cia

use ur brains

[rocky cedar]

Your call, it's pretty broken with KD. 0 risk, incredibly safe to snipe elites out of hordes, very good DPS

[twilit flicker]

What about the Dead Sea Scrolls?

[viral solstice]

u are permitted a bit of gnosticism

as a treat

[lunar hollow]

is this worth earning a blessing

[viral solstice]

hell yea

[lunar hollow]

im having the weirdest luck rn with dueling sword blessings

on the shittiest dueling swords

[viral solstice]

gotta max out on duelling sword techamajamology

[lunar hollow]

i like you crab

youve got a can-do attitude

[steel flame]

Use the laspistol

[viral solstice]

[steel flame]

Laspistol go brrrrr now

[rocky cedar]

Legit laspistol or autopistol

Recon seems mid at best

[steel flame]

Auto pistol is also really fun on psyker now

[twilit flicker]

I think its because we've all used the pug staff and know intuitively how to use a the autopistol.

[rocky cedar]

No it's because it's really strong

[devout axle]

Autopistol is just good in general.

[rocky cedar]

I legit prefer it to Purg in the vast majority of situations

[twilit flicker]

Stand close and point in general direction, pretty much what yoy do with pug. But instead you dont need to run from maulers or switch to primary fire to stun ragers.

You just have to manage ammo.

[devout axle]

Autopistol has stolen the shotguns niche as a bursty close range stagger tool, having much higher dps and ammo efficiency.

[twilit flicker]

Pug sets things on fire though, and fire is warm

[rocky cedar]

That was never shotgun niche what are you on

Shotgun is practically a sniper

[devout axle]

Shotgun CAN be used as a sniper. That was never what it excelled at.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah autopistol straight can't so I don't really see them in competition with each other

[devout axle]

Where shotgun shined was knocking any elite off its feet and doing incredibly high burst damage at close range.

Which Autopistol now does better.

Yes, I can still headshot a sniper better with a shotgun. But that was more of an added bonus.

Which came at the cost of having next to no ammo.

[proven raven]

Shotgun is like, built for special removal

[feral verge]

empra gave me an autopistol earlier

never used em really

is it shit

(this specific one, not in general)

[twilit flicker]

Kinda, it has pinning fire though

[devout axle]

No, its fine. Damage is a bit low, but top end damage is only 66.

[twilit flicker]

Truth

[feral verge]

i have another

[devout axle]

Also, yeah. Pinning Fire is broken.

[twilit flicker]

I'd want to use the first one for the blessings, and also it says it does more dmg even though the percent bar is lower [ohh no my bad, i was looking at ammo count]

[rocky cedar]

Pinning fire + blaze away is the god roll

Pinning fire is doing most of the heavy lifting though

I have one with good stats with pinning 3 and blaze away

I'm scared of what pinning 4 is gonna be like

[feral verge]

i kinda want a true crit saber

riposte + shred, +crit chance +crit damage

[devout axle]

All my sabers have to have +1 Stamina, purely for the qol of being able to full sprint 50% longer.

[rocky cedar]

At least forego crit damage

That's too trash to justify

[feral verge]

ik crit dmg aint that great

[rocky cedar]

Also have fun losing shred whenever you have to push (pretty often with DS)

[viral solstice]

nobody can make me push

ill never push

im slidin im crabbin

[rocky cedar]

I don't understand why DS doesn't have extra base crit chance

[viral solstice]

[feral verge]

should i replace shred on mine?

with ripost?

[viral solstice]

no u need all the creets

[proper elbow]

What blessings and stuff are best for the voidstrike staff?

[viral solstice]

warp flurry / transfer peril

[viral solstice]

if u wanna do the normie one

[feral verge]

this

[viral solstice]

if u wanna do the cool one

u go surge / warp nexus

but u gotta get surge and be rich

[devout axle]

Because they want us to have to proc riposte to get our 1600 damage crits.

[rocky cedar]

Is that a joke?

I mean they're pretty good I guess

[rocky cedar]

Oh on a mutant is cheating

[devout axle]

Its like 1300 on dogs.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah cause they take triple melee damage

Lots of weapons do a heap to them

[devout axle]

I mean, it ends up being to same kill speed because of their bloated hp regardless. They want us to work for the big numbers.

[rocky cedar]

Eh DS DPS is comparatively to many things not particularly impressive

I don't think they'd be overtuned with like+5-10% base crit chance

But whatever

[devout axle]

I mean, when it comes to single target the higher damage melee alternatives that Psyker has are ... Force Sword.

[near wyvern]

It's not that good

[spice veldt]

and if you want better cleave, there's also the force sword

[near wyvern]

Transfer peril is so much better because you can just shoot for days

[devout axle]

And Force Sword has that pesky downside of having god awful mobility.

[near wyvern]

Gotta run for that Plasteel

[spice veldt]

mobility's not too bad if you hold the heavy attack while running

slide during the first part of the heavy startup to avoid the slowdown

[near wyvern]

And then you still watch the zealot going all Sonic

[spice veldt]

they are the melee class for now i suppose

maybe when we finally get our melee subclass

we better have a +movement speed feat of some sort

[near wyvern]

Sad ogryn grunts

[spice veldt]

ogryn's don't exist

[forest coral]

Ogryns are just figments of ur dreams

[devout axle]

Why does this dream hurt?

[near wyvern]

Arcotash:
We better have a +movement speed feat.

Fatshark:
We have a movement speed feat at home.

Movement speed feat at home:
Mind in Motion

[spice veldt]

i cry every day I look at the lvl20 feats

WHY DOESN'T QUICKEN GIVE A SELF BUFF

IT'S IN THE GOD DAMN NAME

[sacred jetty]

Lvl 20 feats are the real penance

[cyan portal]

What's the best perk for a FS with slaugherer? Falk? Cara? Unyeild?

[spice veldt]

I prefer +maniac for mutants and dreg ragers

[near wyvern]

Depends. I would still run +infested to get that train going a bit easier.

[devout axle]

Kinetic Shield should be tied to warp charges, not Peril. Also make it so it also affects allies in coherency to give it some pizazz.

[spice veldt]

with +maniac, you can two-shot a mutant with light-special bodyshots, assuming that you're also running Warp Unleashed

there's also dreg ragers

[devout axle]

And Mind in Motion should just be removed and replaced with something actually useable.

[spice veldt]

peril-scaling feats always feel a little meh to me

but I do kind of like it as a tradeoff sort of thing

basically a "generate x% peril to get x% benefit"

only thing is that the peril-scaling feats pretty much only really benefit a melee playstyle

well after this patch warp unleashed is pretty significant now

[devout axle]

I like the idea of getting benefits for high peril. But I feel those should be tied to bonuses from Blessings, not from feats. Or should be its own class entirely, like the Unchained class in VT2.

[near wyvern]

Yes, it's actually significant enough to reward you with increased DPS if you ride the edge of madness with Trauma instead of quelling all the way to zero (which is more efficient quelling). Don't know about the other staves but basically it gives you a minor reward for playing it risky, even better if you have warp nexus as well.

[devout axle]

I mean, I see Warp Unleashed the same way after patch as I did pre-patch. It's a Voidstrike feat.

[near wyvern]

Oh and in case this chat didn't know, you can use 5 LMB go get your flurry charges and then start casting RMB with the full buff for faster cast and reduced charge cost. Especially useful on trauma which has a huge charge cost on secondary cast.

[spice veldt]

wat

LMB fucking gives flurry stacks?

[near wyvern]

Yes

[spice veldt]

what the fuck

[forest coral]

What heck

[devout axle]

And the sad fact is, the damage difference between not having Warp Unleashed at all and having full Peril with Warp Unleashed is only like ... 60 damage on fully charged Void shots.

[near wyvern]

You go back to back 5 LMB into RMB

[steel flame]

What gets me about quicken is that barrage plus aura completely invalidates it

It has no reason to exist

[forest coral]

Quicken is just poorly implemented

[steel flame]

What if quicken gave us battle wizard dashes

That would be dope

[near wyvern]

Quicken is an artifact of the era when the ult removed all your peril

[steel flame]

Minus the fire probably

Or maybe not

Toss that fire in there

[spice veldt]

i'm pining for an attack speed buff

[devout axle]

If it replaced the shockwave with the dash, I could see that being a thing.

[spice veldt]

soulblaze can go screw itself

[steel flame]

Aw but I like not being able to see

[devout axle]

The sight of Heretics distresses me. I would prefer to be able to kill them while seeing them as little as possible.

[steel flame]

Make quicken ult a teleport with an attack speed buff after

[devout axle]

Please, make purg staff more blinding.

[cyan notch]

[forest coral]

I would never take it off in that case

I would like wizard dash yeet distance too

[steel flame]

Omg the could make raking fire really good

You could actually get behind shit

[near wyvern]

IMO quicken should just be inverted to introduce a style of gameplay where you don't always want to collect warp charges for more CC. It would go like this:

Quicken - reduces the cooldown of your ult by 75%. Each Warp Charge on the Psyker increased the cooldown by 12.5%.

So without any warp charges, you can do a little shout and quell 50% peril every 7.5 seconds. If you have 4 warp charges, your ult cooldown is 22.5 seconds and with 6 warp charges you are back to the original. Using the ult consumes no charges.

This would mean that for something like surge for example, you can decide to avoid collecting warp charges for more efficient peril removal without having to worry that it would break BB spam and male it infinite again.

[spice veldt]

not having the damage buff from warp charges for a shorter CD is still a bit meh

too much of a tradeoff for me

[near wyvern]

Why so? It's your remove the trash button.

[devout axle]

I dislike this suggestion since it has a complete disregard, nay a disdain for something designed to be a core mechanic of the class.

[spice veldt]

well ascendant blaze is already the lvl30 soulblaze option

[devout axle]

If they were to rework Quicken, you would want to implement a greater payoff for expending warp charges, not discourage them entirely.

[spice veldt]

if we had another method to spend warp charges beyond our ult, it could work

[devout axle]

Or implement some sort of way to recoup those warp charges after they are expended.

[wide tiger]

or lower the warp charge cost

maybe half

[steel flame]

The thing that kills quicken in its current form is that it removes warp charges but gives no flow in return. No way to continue the low cool down chain. I mean I would still like a different effect for quicken but it would help it

[near wyvern]

BTW, warp nexus + blazing spirit is a total meme on void but actually decent on trauma. It has a hidden max stack cap of 6. Void does get to 6 with a single cast when the projectile hits an enemy directly and with the explosion, but Trauma just lights up much more enemies due to the huge explosion radius, so with Trauma you actually see some AB charge procs.

[wide tiger]

I tried it, compared to flurry/rending shockwave.... i find it far worse

[steel flame]

Can we just go mug veteran and get the natural 10% crit chance from him that we rightfully deserve?

[wide tiger]

Id prefer his toughness regen on melee kill lol

[devout axle]

I don't need vets Crit chance. I need vets ESP.

[steel flame]

Why da hell does he need a 10% crit chance anyway xP

[spice veldt]

laspistol i guess

[steel flame]

Oh boo hoo. Laspistol is better with psyker anyway.

[wide tiger]

I mean i feel like vet can make any gun better than a psyker can, even with a special moveset attached to it for us

[devout axle]

Like, Vets out here able to see through walls. But Psykers, who all possess the ability to see the psychic aura of all living things, can't.

[wide tiger]

they just have so many talents buffing the fuck outta them + passives + blah blah crazy ult etc etc

[steel flame]

He's got all the options in the world, vet don't need no laspistol 35% crit chance

[cyan notch]

why does psyker need crit chance tho

[spice veldt]

on-crit blessings

[cyan notch]

everyone has those

[wide tiger]

yeah like i said, rather have vets tough on melee kill rate

[spice veldt]

what on-crit blessing does vet have on their class-specific weapons

[wide tiger]

all i can think of is infernus

[cyan notch]

why does it have to be class specific

[spice veldt]

because we're discussing a class-specific trait

[cyan notch]

but it applies to all weapons

[steel flame]

Only one they have is toughness on crit kill. Because of boy they really need to rub their better Regen in our faces

[cyan notch]

not just class specific ones

[spice veldt]

i mean, a class with on-crit blessings on their class-specific weapons should have some way to get more crit

[near wyvern]

Rending Shockwave is not that awesome. Most of the time you only increase damage versus Crushers, and that actual increase in damage is rarely that awesome. It's often around 13%. There are some cases like for soulblaze it's 460% but garbage damage times 460% is still garbage.

[cyan notch]

yea warp nexus

[wide tiger]

Well admittedly its probably flurry doing most of the lifting

[cyan notch]

shred

bloodthirsty

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty is pretty good

warp nexus is meh

even with the surge staff and surge/blazing spirit blessings

our crit synergies are intentionally hampered

[cyan notch]

how are they intentionally hampered

[wide tiger]

well i think its widely agreed blazing spirit should just be on hit

[spice veldt]

surge/blazing spirit not being on the surge staff, the staff that has scaling crit chance

it was an intentional design choice to leave it out; one that I disagree with

[near wyvern]

You have the Surge staff which has more base crit and it cannot roll Blazing Spirit nor Surge blessings which are on crit effects.

[steel flame]

I wish we could get warp nexus on our psyker guns

[cyan notch]

surge on surge

then what u shoot 2 lightings

[spice veldt]

LMB

[cyan notch]

so it only works on lmb? thats stupid

[spice veldt]

it's better than nothing

[devout axle]

I think that'd be fair. Knife gets to apply bleed on hit, why cant I set people on fire with my psychically charged sword on hit?

[near wyvern]

Not that stupid when you realize surge staff LMB crits do almost double damage

[cyan notch]

all bolts do that

i am well aware

but why have a blessing that only works on left click

[spice veldt]

but the surge staff has higher crit chance

to give the left-click more offensive power?

why do we have a blessing that increases crit chance on dodge? why do we have blessings that do x thing?

[near wyvern]

Because FartShart thought it would be a good idea. Like Unstable Power for an example.

[wide tiger]

The whole thing behind dot damage is consistency, crit is inherently inconsistent though and it kinda fucks over dots, especially for the paltry number of stacks you apply. Just my take

[cyan notch]

those work on light and heavy attacks

your argument is weird

[spice veldt]

how is my argument weird

what's wrong with blessings affecting a specific part of the weapon

[cyan notch]

u know what ur right

[spice veldt]

i don't see anything wrong with Surgical only taking effect on ADS

[wide tiger]

I hate sustained fire btw

just saying, that blessing is garbo

[near wyvern]

It's even more horrible when you consider the fact that Blazing Spirit is bugged so that it doesn't count towards AB procs if the applying hit kills the target, which on a crit can happen quite easily.

[wide tiger]

would rather have a tiny blessing pool than a blessing pool filled with trash

[wide tiger]

yeah thats kinda balls

[steel flame]

I mean let's be real. Psykers ENTIRE deal is being inconsistent. I wanna lean all the way into it

[rocky cedar]

I don't see what the issue would be if blazing sprit just applied 0 stacks at min charge, 1 stack at half charge, and 2 at full charge

[devout axle]

The problem with that is the inconsistency exclusively hurts psyker.

[rocky cedar]

I'm struggling to see how that would be broken

[spice veldt]

and the staffs with blazing spirit have an extremely slow fire rate

[steel flame]

I WANT MORE CRITS BABY

[spice veldt]

it's not like kantraels/recons which have a decent enough fire rate to consistently proc infernus

[devout axle]

For inconsistent effects to be fun, you have to have an extreme high to balance out the extreme low.

[cyan notch]

theyre aoe

[spice veldt]

and crits are global to all enemies; it's not like crits are rolled independently for enemies

my point is that it's inconsistent

not that the expected value is different

have you heard of variance

[rocky cedar]

I think inconsistent is rarely fun but whatever

[steel flame]

Not even laspistols crit chance procs infernus all the time. I'm not sure if it's bugged or what

[devout axle]

Crits are rolled on attack, not on hit. Melee weapons even have a special trail effect when the attack is a crit, even if you are swinging at empty air.

[rocky cedar]

Crits are just not a very fun trigger condition IMO

[devout axle]

I agree with that.

[spice veldt]

if doing x thing consistently triggered it, like the bloodthirsty blessing on FS

[rocky cedar]

Even if you think consistent blaze stacks based on charge level is too good, I'm sure there are other options that would be agreeable but less awful than crit

After killing X enemies in Y seconds, attacks inflict soul blaze for Z seconds

Just as an off the top of my head example

I'm sure we could brainstorm much better ones

[spice veldt]

hitting a weakspot LMB causes your next RMB to be a crit

[cyan notch]

anybody can make anything up

thats not the hard part

[rocky cedar]

I'm waiting for your point TBH

[spice veldt]

what's the argument here?

[cyan notch]

we dont know the dev vision for blessings

theres a reason why they do things the way they do

[spice veldt]

...

[cyan notch]

...

[spice veldt]

it would be nice if they explained it

[rocky cedar]

That sounds like blind faith to me

But you do you

[spice veldt]

also, why are you being so snarky this night mate

[rocky cedar]

Meanwhile I'll suggest things that would be more fun to actually play with

[wide tiger]

sounds like people who say the immense rng gated crafting system is fine because "we dont know the dev's vision"

[spice veldt]

i suppose there's a reason why precognition is such a shit blessing

[wide tiger]

the dev's vision is suck every minute of engagement out of you

[cyan notch]

i never said anything was fine nor any blind faith in everything

[devout axle]

I'm really tired of that argument tbh.

[spice veldt]

you certainly imply it with a "there's a reason why they do things the way they do"

[cyan notch]

i can suggest a million "fun things" also

[spice veldt]

you don't get to get away with "i didn't say that exactly"

[cyan notch]

anyone can thats not the hard part

[spice veldt]

i'm not here to play with doublespeak
what is your point?

[devout axle]

You can definitely use logic to get a pretty good idea of what the devs intended by looking at how they have implemented things.

[cyan notch]

im not even replying to you

[spice veldt]

so?

i'm replying to you

[rocky cedar]

Oh so you're just making non arguments then drunk

[spice veldt]

i just don't get your statements
it's apparently stupid to have blessings that involve a specific function of a weapon, but then there's a reason that the developers do the things that they do (which includes creating blessings which involve a specific function of a weapon)

[cyan notch]

my point is anybody can come up with anything thats subjectively "better than crit" its not hard

[spice veldt]

and what's wrong with that?

[cyan notch]

they havent done that for a reason

[spice veldt]

and what reason is this?

[idle bay]

I have wild idea.
Private lobbies that yield no rewards or don't count for penances, but allow you turn on and off some cheezy or crazy options. To make that run very special/fun/painfull/whatever

[cyan notch]

hard to tell without full information

[spice veldt]

bruh

well, we can talk about it a little more abstractly anyways

would these reasons be good or bad

[wide tiger]

sounds like modded games

[spice veldt]

do the developers have valid reasons to have these on-crit blessings despite lacking consistent methods of critting?

what do you reckon?

[wide tiger]

I think it was easy so they did it, and then they did it a lot

speculation

[rocky cedar]

After many many years of Tide games throwing darts at an idea board seems like a pretty good bet

[idle bay]

Yes something close to modded games. But native Fatsharkian mess. Which will be moded by modders who can do it better 🙂

[wide tiger]

lots of blessings trigger on weak spot, and on crit

and almost always the ones that trigger on hit or on kill are better

cause consistency is coveted

by all of us

[spice veldt]

something that puts the player in control would be nice

do x thing to get x benefit

rather than do x thing to have an x% chance to get x benefit

[devout axle]

Consistency rewards creativity and diversity in playstyles.

[rocky cedar]

You'd have to wildly naive to think that Devs that came up with Mist Shade have a good grasp of their own game's balance

[devout axle]

Inconsistency demands you either hamstring yourself to make it work, or you ignore it altogether.

[spice veldt]

like I think it's fine to experiment around and throw your ideas into the active playerbase

but the changes are so glacially slow and reeking of inconsistency that it's seeming not as intentional design but as something that was hoggled together

like anything that makes the blazing spirit blessings good would be fine

even ignoring the inconsistency of triggering it

beyond the niche interaction with ascendant blaze

at least on the same level as warp flurry

[wide tiger]

warp flurry is a special blessing. Consistent and increases attack speed (sort of), no other blessings that I know of do that

[spice veldt]

blazing spirit is a cool blessing that I do want to be consistent in some sense

even if it doesn't get applied to every enemy

i do think that crits having the same roll for every enemy for the same attack limits the things you can do with it

[cyan notch]

if it doesnt get applied to every enemy thats less consistency

[idle bay]

Few new mods that was nessesary:

1. Disabler of Materials pick-up notification (Scoreboard did it better anyway)
2. Mission completion checker for penances for account and for each class

[spice veldt]

in the context of throwing an equinox secondary into a horde, it seems fine (at least to me) to have the rolls independent for each enemy

given that the blazing spirit blessings are on weapons with decently large aoe

[devout axle]

In the context of things that trigger on Crit, this is incorrect. Since you only roll one crit pre attack, regardless of how many enemies there are, you will always have the same painfully low crit chance. But if you rolled crits for everyone individually, you would have more chances to score crits, and thus trigger your on Crit abilities.

[steel flame]

Reason all the crit blessings could work in vermintide were because many classes had straight up auto crit conditions in their feat tree

[spice veldt]

then again, soulblaze needs a couple of ticks to really do damage

[steel flame]

We have all the crit blessings and none of the crit conditions

[spice veldt]

i guess it would be fine to have the same roll if it applied 1 stack

less stacks in exchange for a higher crit chance

[devout axle]

on Crit affects are currently all-or-nothing. You either crit and affect everything with it, or you don't crit and nothing happens.

There is no "I crit some stuff and still got some value"

[steel flame]

What if they tacked on crit chance to warp charges like everything else in the universe xP

[wide tiger]

the more you load warp charges the more you penalize the ults that expend them

[devout axle]

That said, I worry if FatShark made crits roll individually, it would bog down their servers.

[wide tiger]

and make certain feats more attractive like warp battery

[steel flame]

I fear for my audio stability

Crits are already loud enough when they trigger on one shot

[cyan notch]

depends on what you want to be consistent with, applying the effect or applying it to your intended target

[steel flame]

I hit so many enemies with a crit void shot that it completely broke my audio. Had to restart to fix it. Didn't wear headphones the rest of the day

[devout axle]

Applying it to your intended target doesn't go up. The only thing that happens when changing from single crit rolls to individual crit rolls is the chance for you to trigger on-Crit effects at all.

[spice veldt]

i don't think it's crits doing that

it just happens at random

[wide tiger]

hmm, i like the sound of void crits and tearing body parts

[spice veldt]

unless the crits aren't showing as yellow

[steel flame]

Maybe it was a headshot

Those are loud too

[cyan notch]

what if you want to hit an entire horde with blazing spirit individual crits are never gonna be able to do it

[spice veldt]

a single blast setting an entire horde on fire would also prob be cooler

[devout axle]

I'd rather get some value out of my on-Crits MOST of the time, then maximum value as a rare occasion. Like I said before, on-Crits right now are all-or-nothing. You either crit and affect everything, or you don't crit and affect nothing at all.

Getting some value on most occasions is inherently more consistent than getting no value at all most of the time.

[wide tiger]

indeed

[cyan notch]

sure if thats what u like

[devout axle]

Yes, I do like it when I get value out of the blessings taking up a slot on my equipment.

I'd figure that'd be common sense.

[wide tiger]

different strokes

[cyan notch]

youre phrasing it as if youd get no value otherwise

when you actually just said youd prefer if u get some small effects here and there as opposed to having max value sometimes

[austere estuary]

Yeah I get that

[devout axle]

I'd prefer to get small value all the time instead of maximum value 5% of the time, yes.

[austere estuary]

Sometimes it’s fun to roll the dice and win big

[cyan notch]

sure if thats what you like

[wide tiger]

like the crafting system? :p

[cyan notch]

idk what the hurrdurr common sense lmao xd was for

[austere estuary]

Like if trauma could have surge and have it work on secondaries

I would run surge warp Nexus all day

Just for a cash out when it works

Alas

Er, not surge, trauma

[devout axle]

The 'hurrdurr common sense' comes from someeone not understanding consistency. #psyker-class message

[cyan notch]

we already went over this

depends on what you want to be consistent with, applying the effect or applying it to your intended target

[devout axle]

Are you actually this dumb or are you trolling me.

The chance to hit an individual target doesn't go down.

The chance to hit any target at all only goes up.

[wide tiger]

yeah hes right'

same odds

[cyan notch]

target(s)

[wide tiger]

Doesnt matter, what you said is it depends on your intended target

your intended target always has the same chance to get crit

[cyan notch]

how are you going to apply blazing spirit to an entire horde if thats your target

[wide tiger]

lol

You're really moving the goal posts

but it feels like you realized you were wrong and trying to change the framing

[cyan notch]

im not talking to you i dont care about your input

[wide tiger]

Very good.

[devout axle]

You are talking in a public discord server.

[steel flame]

Ah I see the conversation has devolved slightly into "nananana I can't hear you." always fun to watch

[golden tartan]

Kek

[eternal basalt]

🐒 moment

[feral verge]

Random chimp event

[cyan notch]

not really someone was having a conversation with me and another person interjected with meaningless comments like "oh i think u thought u were wrong"

i just dont care to reply to that

[wide tiger]

lol

I'm pretty okay with what i said, I'm sorry you got so upset by it

[steel flame]

Don't mind me. Just here to sow chaos

[cyan notch]

itd be justified if i replied to the guy i was talking to and said randomly said i dont care about his input

but its just a random person popping up saying stuff

[wide tiger]

dude, relax, let it go

its a public forum

[rocky cedar]

God damn this got petit

[eternal basalt]

It sure did

[wide tiger]

random person popping up saying stuff could be the name of this channel 😛

[real sapphire]

How does the Surge blessing work with critting multiple enemies? Does it just activate once?

[rocky cedar]

Anyway not a fan of on crit as a condition generally, but considering half the point of these soul blaze blessings is realistically warp charge gain crit being rolled per enemy would definitely improve consistency in that regard

Still not really a fan of that idea though

[wide tiger]

Would just prefer on hit

but by the same token, lacerate is on dagger which has -not so great- cleave

esp compared to something like voidstrike or trauma

[rocky cedar]

Also don't think FS is gonna change how crit is rolled for a few specific weapons

[wide tiger]

now force sword, well you got me there

[rocky cedar]

Or at all

[cyan notch]

hey i didnt start it all i said was one comment about how its less consistent depending on if you want to apply the stacks at all or apply it to your intended target

[wide tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky cedar]

Can we just talk about the damn blessings and drop this?

[wide tiger]

How about that terrifying barrage

makes up like a third of our blessing pool

[bold flint]

mushroom mushroom mushroom...!

[rocky cedar]

Run n gun or whatever it's called is the real poggers

[wide tiger]

ive never tried run n gun on purgatus

[rocky cedar]

I get to sprint while charging trauma?

Heck yeah

[wide tiger]

do you?

i thought it was primary only

i know you can charge n slide

[rocky cedar]

Yes it works on trauma secondary as a weird exception

[wide tiger]

or should i say slide n charge

[rocky cedar]

It's still not very fast

[bold flint]

forbidden knowledge

[rocky cedar]

It ain't full sprint speed but you can definitely do it

[cyan notch]

u can do that with all staves

[spice veldt]

does run n' gun make the sprint faster?

[rocky cedar]

No

It just stops it cancelling secondary charge?

[spice veldt]

i can't sprint while charging the voidstrike secondary
i can sprint once, but sliding will prevent me from sprinting again during the same charge

[wide tiger]

seems odd that the whole point of the blessing is that you run, but then you cant run?

[bold flint]

me scarpering off to test staves

[rocky cedar]

Oh I didn't realise. Only used it on Trauma and heard people say it didn't work on other staves secondary or something

[rocky cedar]

I don't think you understand?

You can run

Just you still experience the charge up slowdown.

[spice veldt]

it's voidstrike that is the exception

[rocky cedar]

But it's faster than not sprinting while charging

[spice veldt]

you can't sprint-slide while charging its secondary

but you can do it with trauma/surge/purg

[rocky cedar]

Oh interesting

[wide tiger]

yeah i see, it still feels kinda sad though

[rocky cedar]

Yeah it's not good I was just memeing

But it does make it easier to initiate slides while charging

Without dodging

Which is kinda neat

[spice veldt]

sliding into a group of shooters to fuck their shit up

[wide tiger]

Gonna be honest that goes sideways for me often

[rocky cedar]

Yeah it mostly just lets you slide under ranged fire while charging without using dodge resources

[spice veldt]

i run trauma so it goes great for me

[wide tiger]

tightly packed not so bad

but when they're all spread out

one volley and my toughness goes poof

[cyan notch]

void is weird yea something about its charge

like how you fire off your shot when u get hit charging

surge is the fastest you basically can sprint and sprint slide while charging at near max speed

[spice veldt]

presumably voidstrike is how the charging should work but they didn't get around to making it work like that for the other staff secondaries

[rocky cedar]

Wait sorry so if run n gun even needed to sprint while charging secondary?

[spice veldt]

that would add much more value to focused channeling

nah

[rocky cedar]

I'm getting confused

[spice veldt]

not needed for surge/trauma/purg

i did it without the blessing

[rocky cedar]

Oh wow lol

[spice veldt]

ikr

[rocky cedar]

I just never tried

[wide tiger]

really? interesting, I tested slide i didnt think i could sprint

[rocky cedar]

Before I had one with that blessing

[bold flint]

huh? you can run and charge with every staff

[spice veldt]

not with voidstrike

[steel flame]

......

[bold flint]

you can, its just slow as fuck

[steel flame]

Wtf fatshark

[wide tiger]

is it faster than regular walking?

[spice veldt]

oh you can run while charging the voidstrike secondary

just that it breaks if you slide with it

[obtuse crypt]

me when fat shark breaks warp flurry on the only fire staff i have

[cyan notch]

yea u need to recharge

[obtuse crypt]

and it's a locked blessing lmfao

[bold flint]

what do you mean by this

[cyan notch]

and the default sprint while charging is not really a sprint at all its more of a walk it just lets you cancel it into a slide

[steel flame]

I'd like to imagine fatshark coding is just a bowl of fried spaghetti

[spice veldt]

it plays the animation of your hand/staff bobbing to the left and right

[obtuse crypt]

how does star citizen manage to have less fucking spaghetti code breh

[olive ember]

what spaghetti code are we talking about this time?

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/whtjs3

[obtuse crypt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11jev3t/psa_warp_flurry_blessing_makes_your_purgatus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[spice veldt]

at first, my hands are bobbing left-to-right and vice versa, and I can go into a slide

but after sliding, I can't initiate a slide because I'm no longer sprinting

[olive ember]

oh boy

[bold flint]

whats unusual about that?

[obtuse crypt]

me when that blessing is locked on the only fire staff i have that's supposed to be good but i guess ain't anymore

least till they fix it

[spice veldt]

it's unusual because the other staffs can do it

[obtuse crypt]

whihc will happen when they fix bloodletting

[spice veldt]

read the above conversation for the context--purg/surge/trauma are all able to chain slides into a sprint while charging the secondary

[olive ember]

XD yeah this is why I have warp nexus locked

that way I can swap terrifying barrage and warp flurry in and out

but big rip

[obtuse crypt]

is warp nexus even good on the fire staff?

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/n9in2k

[olive ember]

its meta because crit applies two stacks of burn

[spice veldt]

here's me chaining slides into sprints consecutively while charging the trauma secondary

[obtuse crypt]

oh

[olive ember]

yeah so having extra crit is like rly important on purge

[obtuse crypt]

well whenever they fix warp flurry and i shove warp nexus on this it'll be a god purg staff

[olive ember]

that carapace damage tho

big rip

what was the other perk you swapped out

[cyan notch]

this is weird

[wide tiger]

nice

[bold flint]

right i see

[cyan notch]

i can chain slides with void but it recharges from 0 every time i do it

[spice veldt]

if i continue holding RMB, it'll keep my charge but i can no longer sprint

[cyan notch]

huh

[obtuse crypt]

A level 2 elite damage

Hadrin fucked me on that staff

[spice veldt]

and with trauma/surge/purg, you can enter and exit a sprint at will

[wide tiger]

level 2 perks been far more common since the patch before last

[spice veldt]

oh I see what you mean

yeah if I spam my shift key, voidstrike just resets its charge every time I start a new sprint

[cyan notch]

yea im holding rmb down the whole time

[olive ember]

oh yeah I should prob check the damn autopistol perks

[cyan notch]

just pressing sprint again after each slide

[olive ember]

now that I can actually fucking read

[spice veldt]

at least with trauma/surge/purg, you can hold sprint and just crouch to slide at will without breaking your sprint

whereas with void; if you hold your sprint and try to slide consecutively, it won't work after a single slide

[cyan notch]

oh i always just tapped sprint just to initiate the slide then let go of it

probably why i never encountered that void cant sprint thing

[spice veldt]

i'm in the habit of holding sprint since I always use the force sword which doesn't break sprint on running heavies

[bold flint]

have you filed a bug report

[cyan notch]

that does seem like a bug

[spice veldt]

nah; i don't have a forum account

[cyan notch]

although they might nerf everything to void behavior

[spice veldt]

:(

[bold flint]

[cyan notch]

i think surge is definitely a bug

you can sprint at full speed or near full speed while charging

[spice veldt]

it makes sense since you can't sprint/slide with guns while ADSing

i can accept that since we can always dodge-slide

[bold flint]

well yeah you dont really get slowed with it normally

[cyan notch]

i mainly use it to take more space with purg

instead of running there then charging while my face is full of bullets/rusty clubs

[olive ember]

mmm

[rocky cedar]

Why VII claw?

[spice veldt]

stagger build?

[olive ember]

oh i was talking about how I'm holding my staff XD

it glitched out and somehow forgot to swap out the trauma staff

so i was holding the damn thing like I was holding a gun

[obtuse crypt]

melk gonna scam me?

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-time-to-find-out-lets-find-out-dark-of-the-moon-gif-17053364

[olive ember]

I mean

the perks are meh

the blessings you would have to swap the barrage out

well currently you would swap the flurry out but

[obtuse crypt]

i want that blessing to put on my other staff

perks ain't the greatest but i can work around the poxwalker one at least

also hadron once again giving us level 2 perks

fatshark gotta get that fiunny player grind one way or another

[wide tiger]

Yea

[rocky cedar]

T2 perks when upgrading a good base to purple makes me irrationally angry

[obtuse crypt]

it annoys me that you can clearly see they increased the rng of lower level perks too

[rocky cedar]

For sure

[obtuse crypt]

before this patch i didn't nearly get as many level 2 perks when upgrading

[still hearth]

Just get lucky

Lol

[bold flint]

[obtuse crypt]

literally every fucking player every time fatshark tries injecting shit rng into their game

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-how-many-times-teach-you-this-lesson-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14501726

[rocky cedar]

Like they realistically rarely matter but it's just enraging to look at

[wide tiger]

They want to give you the illusion you can win big

Keep pulling that lever baby'

[bold flint]

what happens when we win big

[wide tiger]

Then you tell everyone and it causes them to pull levers harder

If I can do it so can you!

[bold flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/209843216227368962/945481891283337266/dwayne_the_yes.gif

[obtuse crypt]

ever notice fat shark has some kind of gimp every time they make it seem like the system is getting better? like before hand it was that you can only get level 2-1 blessings in brunts shop so that you'd have to grind more, now it's giving you 300+ rating weapons from brunts shop only BUT now you gotta grind more anyways since they gimped the chance of better perks

[cyan notch]

cuz greys have the highest potential

[obtuse crypt]

gotta get that fat juicy player time some way or another

[feral verge]

I'm wondering if I should just bank all my plasteel and shit

Till it's fixed

Yeah yeah, it might not be fixed

[obtuse crypt]

i was gonna say form the looks of it they'll always find new ways of making the grind seem better but actually not so players would flock back

[feral verge]

The grind was nowhere near as bad in vt2

I only have 85~ hours in that game (all on saltzpyre p much) and I have 100% perfect gear for every career

I have 250 hours in dt and no true perfect gear

[uneven drift]

Well, because it's how they want gear to be. "Perferct gear should be very rare case" or something like this.

[idle bay]

That was pleasant and rare encounter. 2 Rare frame players in same mission 🙂

[rocky cedar]

I honestly don't mind the whole getting perfect weapons is impossible thing

It's just a lot of small things and a lack of RNG mitigation systems that add up to create a sour taste for me

Like I would like to actually try a blazing spirit + warp nexus Trauma but I could get it quickly or it could be a massive pain

There's just no way to know

And that is discouraging

[olive ember]

anyone else crashing alot?

didnt mean to reply to that XD

[gray island]

So whats everyones prefered curios? Im personally aiming for 19-20% HP with toughness regen, combat ability regen, and either additional HP or Toughness % for all 3 curios