psyker-class

[spice veldt]

don't worry; they'll go to damnation instead

[leaden thunder]

as long as they are good idc

just a lot aren't good

same for any class

[wide tiger]

yeah psykers can do fine with guns

[leaden thunder]

guns are good

[wide tiger]

guns are strong

[leaden thunder]

so gunker is decent

i'd rather have a staff psyker

but as long as they aer good

idc

it's not like a shieldgryn

where even if they are really good

there is only so much they can do

[wide tiger]

sometimes you get deflector psykers that channel shieldgryn energy

[leaden thunder]

dw guys I am tanking them

[spice veldt]

walking straight into gun fire

instead of killing enemies

thanks

im glad you used your peril to block them

it's not even free like shieldgryns

[wide tiger]

Watch me tank these reaper for half a second

Im useful

[leaden thunder]

it takes stamina to block it while moving on shieldgryn

and quite a lot of it at that

[feral verge]

i'ma shieldker

[olive ember]

I mean

atleast deflector psykers can see where they are getting shot from

[spice veldt]

not with the force sword's block VFX

[wide tiger]

oh shit, they need a mod to turn off that bullshit block fog on force sword

[idle bay]

Half a second you say?
#psyker-class message

[feral verge]

yea deflector isn't as useless as ppl like to say around here

it's a neat bonus

[wide tiger]

Get close to a reaper lol

[feral verge]

my fw already does enough damage

fs*

[wide tiger]

the bottom line is if youre blocking youre not killing and its kinda :\

[feral verge]

ik

[wide tiger]

cause yeah shield ogryn can do what you did in that video too

so

[feral verge]

but it's really nice to have when you need it

sometimes you're just in a situation you cant dodge or kill out of

it's not often, but it happens

[wide tiger]

is it really worth losing a blessing on your FS though?

[feral verge]

yea cuz

[leaden thunder]

as long as you have sluaghterer

[feral verge]

my fs already does enough damage

i have slaughterer

[olive ember]

to be fair throw in one or two gunners in there

thats what you are going to get in a damnation game

[devout axle]

I've stopped using deflector and FS altogether in favor of a melee that actually has good dodge stats tbh.

[leaden thunder]

as long as you aren't being dumb with deflector

it's fine

it's great to have in a pinch

[feral verge]

yeah DS dodge feels amazing

[leaden thunder]

just don't be a fake shieldgryn with it

[feral verge]

yeah i dont shieldgryn with it lmao

[wide tiger]

id like to run unstable power and slaughterer when they fix peril scaling blessings

[devout axle]

Deflector is good on FS because FS doesn't really have many good Blessings anyways. But being able to actually dodge and reposition is invaluable.

[olive ember]

I mean the thing is slaughterer does the job fine

so I don't particularly need the extra power

[feral verge]

if they fix

[olive ember]

so being able to block bullets is just a nice utility to have i suppose

[feral verge]

yeah that's what im trying to say

[leaden thunder]

if sluaghterer wasn't basically the main damage blessing

other then like

bloodthirsty

[wide tiger]

there's 11 blessings on t3/t4

[leaden thunder]

which good fucken luck with that

then it'd be a different story

but rn

you pretty much want to run either defelector or bloodthirsty

[wide tiger]

I'd rather run bloodthirsty/slaughterer personally

Most of the time i get shot its from a random behind spawn anyways

[feral verge]

did i post this machine yet

[wide tiger]

Also did they fix block efficiency and deflector? it was raising peril generation instead of cutting it at one point no?

[summer prairie]

NumericUI was updated there's an option to show dodge count. On Forcesword it's a bit distracting though

[spice veldt]

lmao

[near wyvern]

Live glimpse of math.huge

I just want an icon to display the cooldown reset of my dodges

More like a dodge bar similar to stamina bar

With a cooldown visualization

No need to clutter screen with numbers

[summer prairie]

You can disable the debug info, but then it only shows the dodge count without a timer. You can see when it resets though

and you can move it with the hud mod

[tender onyx]

how good is the ascendant blaze feat?

[supple skiff]

its really good

max stacks you can take out pretty big groups

[tender onyx]

does it proc off the purgatus staff?

[supple skiff]

I believe so

[tender onyx]

oh sweet emprah...

[supple skiff]

if memory serves its got a weird interaction it counts other sources of soul burn too

including other psykers running purge,

might have been fixed though, don't run purge, wouldn't know

[tender onyx]

guess ill pay a visit to the psykanium for some research

[lofty sable]

yeah, with the purg staff i like to run 6 warp charges since you generate them so much. makes ascendant blaze nasty

[near wyvern]

@tender onyx Section 5 has everything there is to know about Soulblaze

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[tender onyx]

cheers

[jolly barn]

i bet im preaching to the choir here but going out with a bang is bullshit 😭

[olive ember]

two vets and I have to dodge shooters while dealing with horde

true malice gaming

[proud rain]

It sure is

[jolly barn]

when i go malice and the team makes us lose they tell me not to go on level 3

[spice veldt]

so dodge-sliding takes two away from your dodge counter, and sprint-sliding will prevent your dodge counter from resetting
thanks for explaining this in-game, fatshark

[summer prairie]

Explains some things...

[olive ember]

I mean I only dodge slide if I need to reload or quell tbh

normal melee combat I just dodge normally

[spice veldt]

i always dodge slide into ranged enemies

[wide tiger]

yeah same

[spice veldt]

since it's easier to aim with trauma when they're closer

[supple skiff]

I use it to avoid hounds, mutants and trappers

mixed results on the hounds, works great otherwise

[near wyvern]

No wonder I have been running out dodges surprisingly fast when I battle monstrosities. Well explained FFS. I have been always just dodge sliding, gotta learn new muscle memory I guess.

[summer prairie]

Has especially been a problem when fighting a DH

[near wyvern]

Yup

Also, I wonder if it is better to just side dodge without sliding when dodging incoming ranged fire then

Since you can do more in a row

The ranged immunity duration just seems to be so much greater when dodge sliding

[solar cloak]

im such a schizo at dodging when I play psyker

[spice veldt]

on the duelling swords, dodge-sliding seems to still be pretty effective even if you hit the softcap dodge count

[fading heath]

Anyone can point me to up to date guide for "going out with a bang", i tried just getting it during normal game but always either not enough to kill or everything dying beforehand.

[leaden thunder]

if they brought back hounds this weekend i'd say do that

[fading heath]

no hounds as of now

[idle bay]

1. Premade team, Use LFG channel. Voice coordination helps a lot
2. Malice with low intensity so less zombies and special will bother you
3. Gunners and Shotgunners are your best targets! They always get one-shoted by Warp Explosion
4. So find 2 spawns of elites (gunners and shotgunners close by) and with team effort bully them (by pushing them) into the nice good pile, preferably 4 of them just be sure. And then do the Warp Explosion.
5. Chasm Terminus start is one of the best spots to do it

[fading heath]

figured gonna need a team,

malice low intensity is a good tip

thanks

[feral verge]

do NOT have kinetic flayer equipped when you go for the penance

i got robbed the first time

i killed 3 elites

but one of them was technically kinetic flayered

and didnt die to the suicide explosion itself

[turbid bluff]

So I'm new to this discord, but I'm also looking for a team for doing some achievements! So I'd love to help people out.

[fading heath]

which skill tier is that

[feral verge]

4

right here

[leaden thunder]

it's the chance to brain burst one

[fading heath]

i see

good to know cause im using that

thanks

[feral verge]

what ended up working best for me was a premade group

highly coordinated

[leaden thunder]

what worked for me was getting it on vet

but idk if that has been fixed

[feral verge]

we got a few gunners and shotgunners, and pushed them into a small room, they were trapped

[fading heath]

yeah i wanted to avoid social interactions but looks like i will need to get a team

[feral verge]

i recommend a shield ogryn

you will need a team

anything else requires too much luck

since dog mode isn't on rn

[fading heath]

i can tell after like 10 games

i would never expect this to be so hard

it seems so natural to have 3 elites close and damaged

[feral verge]

rarest achievement in the game

1.3% hold it on steam

[fading heath]

but the setup for blowup

more rare then "make very shot count" huh

i guess you can cheese that once or could from what i heard

[idle bay]

I remember doing mine "Going out with a bang!"
Started the team in LFG. Insisted that i will try to get mine last. Helped few other psykers to get it (some fall of and some more joined) - and when it was my turn i failed few times in row and them it was to late to play for other team mates. So next day i start team in LFG , and again insist that i get it last. Helped few more psykers and then got mine in 1st try 🙂

[spice veldt]

hmm, it seems that the running attacks of enemies can only be dodged sideways
dodging backwards doesn't seem to work at all, no matter the timing

[jolly barn]

mfw in the perfect situation to kill a monster with brain burst but team decided to say no

and then later perfect situation to do go out with a bang but the gunners just didnt die

[wide tiger]

I got going out with a bang by accident

Professional peril management

[leaden thunder]

same, but on the wrong class

it confused the fuck out of me

[jolly barn]

this shit sucks 😭

[leaden thunder]

blew myself up with the plasma gun

killed like

3 maulers

nad got it

[lofty sable]

my game just crashed like 3 steps away from the extraction. this fucking game

[leaden thunder]

[olive ember]

the psyker achievements are p bad

armor looks dope tho

imo

[jolly barn]

this man is flexing on me

[feral verge]

Drippiest in the game

[feral verge]

Feels nice to have it

[olive ember]

the sword out looks more casual

but that staff pose tho

[jolly barn]

drippiest outfit but worst looking staff

[olive ember]

I mean i got a bunch of staves

[spice veldt]

poptart staff

[olive ember]

I just can't be assed to spend the money to skin em

I got this loadout too

[jolly barn]

psyker and gun D:

[spice veldt]

it's the meta psyker build

tm

[idle bay]

In unnerves me more than it should - that clipping issue with Psyker Penance drip....

[fringe tapir]

Any of you have tips for getting pick n' mix done?

[idle bay]

Issues to be exact

[idle bay]

Team that suck at ranged + blind luck 🙂

That is how i've got mine randomly...

[fringe tapir]

lol...for sure the luck gods are against me

[olive ember]

you either get lucky

or you get a premade

[spice veldt]

commsplex midevent spams shotgunners and gunners at you

[olive ember]

its alot easier with a premade

[fringe tapir]

keep gettin teamed with two sharpshooters or ogryn grenaders

[olive ember]

Legit all you need to do if you have a premade is find a big enough group of gunners/shotgunners, have you team keep the trash and normal shooters off you

[fringe tapir]

roger that premade will have to be it

[olive ember]

and you just BB them using KB

[fringe tapir]

🙂

[idle bay]

LFG channel to your help 🙂 Create a premade there for penance runs.

[olive ember]

the timer is 12 seconds, if you BB optimally it takes about 8 seconds to kill 5 shooters with KB

so 4 seconds of leeway

[fringe tapir]

thx all

[olive ember]

just remember the timer doesn't start until you pop the first one so I recommend killing the first one with BB normally, immediately pop KB and pop the next 4

I wish they gave an upgraded ribbon tbh

[feral verge]

I have 160 or so missions done on psyker

[idle bay]

I wanted accessory slot item that give psykers a Proper Glowing Eyes!

[digital narwhal]

Real quick; does the Trauma Staff secondary fire count as an explosion?

[olive ember]

not sure why?

[digital narwhal]

Wanted to confirm a thought about it, since it one shots Poxbursters and does pretty good damage vs Monstrosities

[leaden thunder]

I beleive it does

[digital narwhal]

Awesome

Good to know for sure.

[leaden thunder]

both of those would point to it

at the very least

[feral verge]

@digital narwhal do you play ogryn

[turbid bluff]

So I'm trying to do a penance run for the NASA (North America & South America) region! I'm very far from a pro tho lol

[pine hearth]

Does terrifying barrage work on purg staff?

[feral verge]

I saw a grond yesterday

[digital narwhal]

Yes.

[pine hearth]

seems much nicer on void I can supress a whole horde but seems to do nothing on purg

[digital narwhal]

What were they wearing?

[idle bay]

Psyker 508 missions
Ogryn 221 missions
Vet 181 missions
Zealot 134 missions

[digital narwhal]

Not me

[leaden thunder]

[primal fjord]

Well dang..I was gonna ask about getting conflicting info from people on forums and discord. On if Warp Flurry worked on Surge staff, but even guide says there unsure.

Be nice if I could get like lv4 of it to try and test myself. 🤷

[olive ember]

The consensus is

it works

until you put warp nexus on it

and then it breaks

[primal fjord]

lol..it breaks when you add the best Blessing for surge staff. Go figure..

[summer prairie]

Straight from a dev that it was bugged

[quaint pollen]

is this even worth consecrating to orange? im getting shit rolls on these today and going broke

like none of that is ideal

[summer prairie]

with better perks maybe but I wouldn't bother

[quaint pollen]

yeah these perks ruined it

[summer prairie]

with good perks you could roll the warp flurry to barrage first to get a better chance of getting a good second blessing (and then roll it back to the other one)

[quaint pollen]

oh thats smart. i roll that to barrage and it takes both barrage and flurry out of the pool for it to roll blessings?

[summer prairie]

not flurry, but you want a higher tier flurry anyway

[quaint pollen]

yeah

[olive ember]

I mean if he gets nexus

[summer prairie]

and there are only three tier 4s on surge/purg

[olive ember]

he can swap flurry for wte he wants

[quaint pollen]

do i want nexus/flurry or nexus/what

[olive ember]

nexus/terrifying barrage

until flurry is fixed

[summer prairie]

the dev posted that they have a fix for flurry. Should be in the patch next week, I imagine

[quaint pollen]

am i looking for crit chance/flak perks or something?

[summer prairie]

that or I also like elite/flak

[quaint pollen]

alright cool ty

[summer prairie]

maybe a case could be made for unarmored for drek shooters, haven't looked at breakpoints but seems marginal even if you do frequently want to stun the groups

[quaint pollen]

yeah most of em seem marginal, this thing doesnt do much dmg no matter what you do

[summer prairie]

it does fine against most of the dangerous elites

[quaint pollen]

i got lucky and made a first try 99% perfect purgatus but i've flushed 10k materials on these awful surge rolls

[summer prairie]

and they don't have a lot of hp, the crits are very close to one-shotting some of them

[quaint pollen]

hmm. maybe i'll change my mind with a good nexus roll on surge

[summer prairie]

and two-shotting isn't bad when they aren't doing anything

[quaint pollen]

i just cant play with purgatus after using zealot flamer so i need a good 1 of these

[feral verge]

Purga still does way more damage than surge

[summer prairie]

purg lmb spam is nice with quell cancel

[quaint pollen]

yeah but at least this doesnt blind my entire team with a wall of flame that does 10% of a flamers dmg

[summer prairie]

the damage is very similar

[quaint pollen]

everyones running flamer anyways so purg is redundant

hell no dude, flamer is so busted

[summer prairie]

without the ult

[jagged lance]

HOW SO?

[feral verge]

Since everyone is going flamer, go with ranged

Trauma or voidstrike

[quaint pollen]

queue a damnation, there will be a zealot that sprays a 2 second flame and gets 8 elite kills

void is next but really need ideal rolls on that for it to be useful

[feral verge]

I use bolter on zealot

Don't wanna roll into a team that has no range

[quaint pollen]

yeah i mostly bolter also but flamer kills all the ogryns just as quick if not quicker. some1 else can deal with the 2 snipers per map

[feral verge]

I prefer being versatile

Don't like relying on someone else in that way

[lofty sable]

if you dont think the flamer is busted you have never used the flamer. spray it in a damnation horde and watch the kill feed show your name 9 times while also shredding any monster. and it's also not a blue flame that's brighter than the sun.

[quaint pollen]

flamer is busted. nerf psyker

[lofty sable]

i love psyker, but omg i need sun glasses when i use purg

[quaint pollen]

i maxed brightness because some parts of some levels are annoyingly dim. big mistake when there are purgs in a match

[lofty sable]

lol good lord your poor retinas

[summer prairie]

I've health bars turned on for horde just so I can see whether I'm killing things when using purg

[lofty sable]

i wish they either didn't give zealots a flame thrower, or didn't give psyker a flame thrower and just made trauma or voidstrike explosions cause flame stacks

just feels redundant right now

[spice veldt]

flamer/purg damage against elites could be tuned down

or they lower their cleave

because they're in pretty much the same state as the pre-nerf power sword

[viral solstice]

dude the scoreboard mod is so good for voidstrike

because it counts overkill damage

ur just out there FARMING it

and u dont pick up ammo

thank u scoreboard mod guy

[lofty sable]

my last game 55% of my damage with voidstrike was overkill hah

[summer prairie]

overkill damage shouldn't count at all

[viral solstice]

wrong

theres no kill like overkill

thats a kill fact

[summer prairie]

the mod should also remove the overall scores

and just keep the plain stats

[viral solstice]

thats a fuckin ratio

damage:overkill

that shows true power

[summer prairie]

pretty sure the game/mod doesn't count purg damage/kills properly

[viral solstice]

got so much damage im just throwin it around

wasting it

on FRIPPERY

[lofty sable]

to quote the starcraft archon: "power overwhelming"

[viral solstice]

back to the voidstrike mines

[summer prairie]

That's better

[lofty sable]

i want to make a good force sword, what am i looking for on it?

tired of using axes. I want to be a space mage

[broken quail]

Slaughterer and anything else. Maniac/flak

[lofty sable]

ty

[olive ember]

deflector

if you are using a FS without a deflector you are using it wrong

[viral solstice]

doin 3 psykers lights out

[lofty sable]

sir i did not become a space wizard to block like some filthy tank

[viral solstice]

is very scare

[leaden thunder]

luckily

there is not tank

[viral solstice]

[leaden thunder]

because this ins't an mmo

so you are just a jedi

instead

[worn cypress]

lol I hunted for deflector for so long and end up hating it

[viral solstice]

who uses block u should only uses pop and l ock

[lofty sable]

this guy gets it

[viral solstice]

we defeated the evil captain

but the ragers comin out of the darkness in the boss fight were very scare

too scare...

[olive ember]

just bring more purge staffs

[viral solstice]

this has stacks rite

i cbf checkin

[summer prairie]

same as nexus

[viral solstice]

noice

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty is the other good offensive blessing on force sword, but good luck getting it since it's a t4 only

[olive ember]

unstable power

disgust

its like +20% power at max peril right?

[pine hearth]

does sustained fire do anything?

on void

[olive ember]

no clue

[viral solstice]

thats better than most void blessings

gimme dat on a stif

[olive ember]

lmamo

staffs with good blessings?

[viral solstice]

wait

i have the answer

next week they give voidstrike

pinning fire

im ready

[olive ember]

wtf is pinning fire again?

[viral solstice]

20% power when u stagger an enemy stacks 5 times

i mean its on the bolter

and the voidstrike and the bolter are very similar

according to this document

its only logical voidstrike should get perma 100% power

i can see no flaws here

[olive ember]

When can we get a funny plasma gun but for psyker

wait

thats the voidstrike

[viral solstice]

i actually suicided yesterday because a bulwark hit me in the bum while i was charging something at 100%

[olive ember]

minus the killing power

[viral solstice]

so my character fired it due to the stagger

which triggered suicide

i was like

[olive ember]

lmao

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

why were you charging at 100% tho

[viral solstice]

sometimes the game is out to get u

[quaint pollen]

something weird is going on, i have more plasteel than diamantine on my pskyer

[viral solstice]

i was charging a voidstrike to get a dog i could hear coming, it didnt come while the charge was goin

was just about to cancel it when i get clomped

fukin sneaky ogryn

[olive ember]

Nothing tilts me more when I see a bigger threat and I start charging my staff

only to get hit by a damn poxwalker behind because my team couldn't finish clearing the 5 poxwalkers left

[viral solstice]

ive actually ascended

i kill dogs just by looking at them now

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Y8p82HohOWb9L/d1337LCmsFRV?invite=cr-MSxPWGssMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

he never stood a chance

against my unparalleled mind

[olive ember]

do I want to know what happened?

i mean my assumption is that it hit a box and then pathfinding jank

screwed it

[viral solstice]

dog jumped on stairs, flew in the air, landed on top of the box

out of pathfinding area

suicide

but thats all fake

[olive ember]

yea

[viral solstice]

i killed it with mind bullets

[olive ember]

why can't we get mind bullets

[summer prairie]

Next week

[olive ember]

lmao

you guys have any guesses of what could possibly be buffed for psyker and ogryn btw

the two weakest classes in the game

[spice veldt]

tweaks to staffs, maybe new blessings

[viral solstice]

probably tweaks to talents/feats and blessings

[spice veldt]

maybe weighted pool of weapons

[viral solstice]

and ye unique weapons

numerical tweaks to talents most likely

because easy

peril should have a basic effect

u should get warp nexus just as a passive

das my view

[olive ember]

what if its just

[viral solstice]

i wanna do more crits

and warp

nexusly

[olive ember]

warp charge goes from 4% to 5%

per charge

[viral solstice]

dumb but ill take 6% damage

[spice veldt]

and in the next patch, 7%

and we slowly go up by 1% increments

100% damage per warp charge

[olive ember]

[spice veldt]

i'm still on that hopium for a new weapon next patch, since the only conceivable way I can see to buff psyker is just new weapons; i don't really think that numerical changes will fix our problems

give us a glock that uses peril

[olive ember]

thats hard copium bruh

but hey if we do get a new weapon you can say your hopium carried us

unless that weapon is trash

[spice veldt]

i take no responsibility

[olive ember]

We know how to blame if the force greatsword is trash guys

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-mad-dance-gif-12234681

[royal granite]

force greatsword? has anything been confirmed?

[leaden thunder]

nothing has been confirmed

but

[olive ember]

datamined

[leaden thunder]

there was sometihng in the files that is like

100% it

[spice veldt]

there was the power 2h and the force 2h

of course, the vets can go fuck themselves

i wan our 2h force

[leaden thunder]

the 2 handed power is most def not for vet

[spice veldt]

fuck whoever's getting it

fuck the zealots

[feral verge]

what if it's psyker

[viral solstice]

what if psyker get 3-handed power sword

[feral verge]

hand and a half sword when

[viral solstice]

if u dual wield those

3-handed swords

i like what ur puttin down

[viral solstice]

one must imagine crabyphus happy

check this out

if u have a single-edged sword right

[dawn crypt]

how do you guys get 5 brain burst in 12 sec?

[feral verge]

what are the other force weapons in the lore? (i wouldnt know, i'm newer to 40k)

[viral solstice]

its cool because u cant accidentally cut urself with the back of it and u can press down with it

[leaden thunder]

any melee

[feral verge]

you need kinetic barrage

[viral solstice]

but the bad thing about it is that u cant cut ur enemy with the blunt side either

so in that way, a single edged sword is kind of a double edged sword

[lethal folio]

Kineblades.

[leaden thunder]

you can turn pretty much any melee weapon into a force or power version

[lethal folio]

Psychic floating knives

[safe crystal]

Timer starts on first BB kill, you need kinetic barrage for the faster BB afterwards. Doesnt need to be different target types, you can just kill 5 shotgunners and call it a day

[feral verge]

can i have a force bolter

using bolter as a force melee weapon

[viral solstice]

a folter

or a borce

[lethal folio]

Grey knights have force bolters.

[leaden thunder]

I was gonna say

[dawn crypt]

so BURST 1 , pop ULT then 4 x bursts?

[feral verge]

yea

[safe crystal]

Pretty much, yeah

[viral solstice]

easiest time to do it is when u see a bunch of gunners

and mebbe a trapper or bomber or two

give em da psychic wedgie

[dawn crypt]

so i need a team that wont screw me over , and how do u avoid accidentally bursting a zombie

once ur left click locks on, how do u cancel or switch

[viral solstice]

check for the blue glow on ur target

if u let go it just stops

[dawn crypt]

do u always left click burst or right click?

[safe crystal]

Right click only if i hear a dog spawn somewhere around and theres no other threat around to give it an instant wham when it comes into vision

[viral solstice]

that achievement is probs more easily done mostly left clicking

[safe crystal]

Otherwise, always LMB

[viral solstice]

right click is for specific situations where u know something is going to appear in ur los and u need it to have a stroke immediately

without delay

[mortal harness]

Looking for peeps to help with the BB penance

preferably an Ogryn with shield

[dawn crypt]

should i even attempt this penance in a pug or find a premade ?

and on Heresy normal or High intensity?

[viral solstice]

i would say

[safe crystal]

You can get it by accident while playing damnation, or heresy hi int

[viral solstice]

dont deliberately farm it

just let it happen

i got it by accident

[mortal harness]

is it the pick n mix penance?

[dawn crypt]

yeah Pick n Mix

[mortal harness]

doable in PUBS on heresy

hi intensity certainly helps

[river sand]

pick and mix happens naturaly

[mental junco]

can someone tell why this seems more like a warp lighting to me(

[river sand]

going out with a bang, is doable with a few attempts on damnation. only for malleus monstronum you need a premade team

[mortal harness]

even more doable on heresy isnt it?

[leaden thunder]

I have seen people do it in pubs

just wait for a plogryn and ask the team

[river sand]

nah damnation is better cause more elites

[jolly barn]

i asked once and they ignored me 😭

[river sand]

the extra hp they have doenst matter cause you have to soften them up anyway

[mental junco]

malice is enough

[mortal harness]

but they are tougher and the chance you last hit them with the explosion is smaller

[mental junco]

u can see 3 rager group

[rigid loom]

best way i've found to even attempt going out with a bang is the hunting grounds modifier, got it myself blowing up in a pack of dogs lol

[mental junco]

just hit them with staff several times

and suiside

u only need 1 friend to use private session

[jolly barn]

i thought it had to be a whole premade for it to work

[mental junco]

there is quite a chance to spawn 3 rager group in ur first encounter of a run

[wide tiger]

Cant wait till they give us the plasma gun so we can manage warp and heat and ammo at the same time

[leaden thunder]

double explosion

[mental junco]

the upload data mission

when waiting for the lift

the shotgunner spawn in a group of 4

but shotgunner is not easy to keep distance

[wide tiger]

So fellow warp flurry voidstrike enthusiasts, do you spam fire secondary to get to max flurry or do you take your time and still partial charge

[mental junco]

depends(

spam no charged "ball" is not very damaging...

[mental junco]

many penance need known friend to help

[rocky cedar]

Many penances should just be ignored

If not all

[jolly barn]

but psyker penance fit is so cool :)

[mental junco]

if not for the outfit

who will do that shxt

[rocky cedar]

They're alright I guess

I'm happy with my look without a bunch of them

[mental junco]

i am still straggle with the cliffhanger

[rocky cedar]

I'd just like there to be way more armoury cosmetics

[mental junco]

all my other penance is done

but because the most basic cliffhanger can not be done...

my headgear is still...

[jolly barn]

go to smelter

stand in the middle at the end

press f with 100% peril

[rocky cedar]

Does the knockback scale with peril?

[jolly barn]

ye iirc it does

[mental junco]

i tried...

oh

maybe my peril is not full

[jolly barn]

dunno

i got it first try when i tried that

[mental junco]

i even got the double ult

use it

[jolly barn]

pushed them a bit with my weapon shove too

[mental junco]

but still not enough

[jolly barn]

then ability

[mental junco]

they just refuse to fall

[lethal folio]

0.25x stagger power per warp charge

[mental junco]

can we push them off but not consider to be killed yet and use the ult?

[jolly barn]

dont think so

[mental junco]

like, they began to fell, but not killed yet

ok..

[dawn crypt]

theres a youtube video taht teaches u to cheese it. u just need a bridge

[near wyvern]

You mean 1.25?

If it is multiplicative

[rocky cedar]

Presumably 0.25 of some base value

So 1.0 for 4 warp charges

[near wyvern]

Right

[rocky cedar]

1.5x for 6

[near wyvern]

So +0.25 not 0.25x

[mental junco]

i am trying to use the bridge of the ammo steal and/or scan plague mission

but so far still not able to get it...

[rocky cedar]

I'm just guessing but yeah that's how I read it

[mental junco]

there is an extremly tiny passage

but...

[left briar]

the staff blessings seem so mediocre

[feral verge]

voidstrike has good ones

it has the most impactful feeling blessings

[rocky cedar]

I'm a fan of rending shockwave

And warp flurry is good for trauma and void

[mental junco]

headshot one?

[rocky cedar]

Purg and Surge have shit blessings for sure

[mental junco]

they headshot lower peril

[feral verge]

these

[mental junco]

yeah

[feral verge]

autocannon capable of constant bombardment

[rocky cedar]

Having more than 2 good blessings basically doesn't matter in this game since there's almost always an obvious BiS blessing combo

[mental junco]

its like

[rocky cedar]

Very few weapons actually have meaningful choices

[mental junco]

the battletank

with plasma cannon

if u played DOW2

[near wyvern]

Rending Shockwave + Warp Flurry is for Trauma what Transfer Peril + Warp Flurry is for void. Those are the blessings you want ATM.

[rocky cedar]

I dream of a day blazing spirit is worth a damn

[feral verge]

@near wyvern do oyu think this is salvageable

i've had it for awhile

never used

[rocky cedar]

Actually blazing spirit buff pretty high on my list of wants for Psyker buffs this week

Trauma + AB sounds like a pretty sweet build

I would really like it to just be like 0-2 stacks based on charge time

[wide tiger]

Its so bad

lol

[rocky cedar]

I think more than that and with trauma's huge application radius it'd become pretty busted

[wide tiger]

Blazing spiorit

[rocky cedar]

It's bad because of the condition

[wide tiger]

I tried a nexus/blazing spirit trauma

was so sad

[rocky cedar]

Fix that and it'd be very solid

[leaden thunder]

either make it way more stacks

or just make it on all attacks

[rocky cedar]

More stacks is pointless

[wide tiger]

on all attacks would be nice

[rocky cedar]

Consistency is what it needs

[leaden thunder]

i'd prefer it on all attacks

[wide tiger]

crit is the definition of inconsistent so yeah

[rocky cedar]

Well not pointless but not what it needs

[leaden thunder]

I wish for fire

[left briar]

the other classes have so much stronger blessings on their weaps

[wide tiger]

then i could go flurry/blazing spirit

[rocky cedar]

Yeah flurry blazing spirit has the potential to be excellent

If they buffed warp nexus that could also make it work

But I'd prefer BS just functioned fine on its own

[wide tiger]

agree

soulblaze away

[feral verge]

flak, or crit chance for this

i had crit chance on it, but noticed it was only tier 3

i have the reroll tier 4 perk mod

[wide tiger]

I think crit personally, everything dies once its blazed up

[rocky cedar]

Crit for Purg

[wide tiger]

well, most everything

[feral verge]

i'ma craft a good trauma ig

the one i posted earlier isn't salvageable i think

then again i should probably wait for the patch

[left briar]

what patch gonna do

[warm spindle]

Hopefully buff psyker so I dont have to use the same 2 weapons to play him effectively

[wide tiger]

i'd really like it if they'd make primary staff fire be pinpoint accurate

[left briar]

the damnation has been damned

[dawn crypt]

theres some T4s that are harder than T5

[rocky cedar]

That's cap, Psyker has a bunch of good builds

[feral verge]

yeah i really fuck with this thing

clutched me a game

[rocky cedar]

Very nice

[feral verge]

kinetic deflection

[rocky cedar]

Last Damn match I played I ended up having to solo clutch

[feral verge]

was able to rez while in a mob

[rocky cedar]

KD dagger pulled it off

[wide tiger]

yeah i always go KD

[rocky cedar]

Don't think I would have lived with any other class

[wide tiger]

sounds more like KD clutched it lol

[feral verge]

does block efficency work with KD? or is it just stamina

[rocky cedar]

No way I would have gotten the revives off otherwise

[wide tiger]

They made it so weapon stats dont affect anything while you rez

so that block efficiency from deflector and the weapon? nuh uh

[feral verge]

that's fucked

[wide tiger]

thats just how it is

[feral verge]

that's fucked

[wide tiger]

at least its the same for all classes

i can get on board with consistency

[feral verge]

that's fucked

[rocky cedar]

Kinda true though I did need to strategically dispatch a bunch of shooters camping around the boss while having like no health lol

Then I needed to dodge the shotgun attack and slowly bait the boss into melee to get the revives off

[wide tiger]

I think the only reason i might be convinced to run deflector is for fucking shotties

i hate them

[rocky cedar]

Curios should still work I imagine

[wide tiger]

yes

[feral verge]

i only run hp curios

[safe mountain]

Hopefully they finally fix the bug with primary fire that's been in since release. The one where the projectile flies to where you started the attack not where you are looking when it shoots out...

[wide tiger]

i run hp curios as well

[wide tiger]

fucking amen

that needs to be fixed its so annoying

[feral verge]

how much HP do you have?
i'm trying to push mine as high as possible

[wide tiger]

im just at 250

[feral verge]

i think it's 270 or so

nice

im 260

[wide tiger]

i have block efficiency, tough regen, and mostly hp curios

but not really perfect

just good enough

[rocky cedar]

I'm running 2 toughness 1 stam curio at the moment and I dig it

All 3 with max toughness regen

It's dank

[wide tiger]

usually what im going for~ish

[feral verge]

i've been buying all the toughness curios i've been coming accross

[rocky cedar]

Would like more sniper resist though only got one of those

[feral verge]

in the event i wanna try maxing toughness

[wide tiger]

ive thought about changing to tough

i certainly have the resources lying around due to not being able to get any fucking decent force swords

[feral verge]

got 90% toughness regen

[wide tiger]

yeah

i think im close~ish

82.5

[feral verge]

nice

[wide tiger]

like i said, just good enough

[feral verge]

i want that one

to replace this

i have plenty of failed curios. ones that i tried to roll for good perks

like this

[wide tiger]

I melt em all lol

[brisk maple]

i dont wanna know how much time you spend for this

[wide tiger]

but yeah i had some failures

[feral verge]

i keep them just in case, if an update later on will let us dismantle thme for the perks or something

[brisk maple]

ahh missing only +exp

[wide tiger]

ahh fair

[brisk maple]

for perfect

[wide tiger]

hopium

:p

[feral verge]

not too long tbh

i got pretty lucky

within the week of that update, i got all this setup

good force sword, god voidstrike staff, good curios

scroll up bro

HP

[wide tiger]

health atm

[feral verge]

i got 260 hp. trying to push it even higher

[wide tiger]

wouldnt be terrible to split and do 2 hp 1 tough

[feral verge]

but i am open to experimenting with toughness

[spice veldt]

1 hp, 1 toughness, and 1 stam is my configuration

[feral verge]

i've been buying good toughness curios

[brisk maple]

hp atm, kinda more survive but now im hunting for good toughness for testing

[spice veldt]

toughness is mostly for poking at ranged

[brisk maple]

at veteran i have 3 with toughness and this shit is crazy on him, but base shield for veteran is 200 so no comprred with papier psyker

[wide tiger]

well they changed it like a week after release didnt they

[spice veldt]

they did think it through, but they also don't explain all the mechanics to you

for example, you have an 82.5% ranged dmg reduction for some time when your toughness is broken by a ranged attack

[feral verge]

i heard 3 toughness isn't good for vet

cuz 1 burster and your hp is destroyed

[wide tiger]

wtb a single force weapon in my melk shop

[spice veldt]

shotgunners are going to shit on you regardless because they do 120 damage up close

[restive slate]

Is health curio always a safe option?

[wide tiger]

even far away they shit on me

[brisk maple]

dosnt matter, mostly burster dont should be close to you. Is pif paf classes. but is good have high shield for gun fights

[feral verge]

yes

a burster shouldn't be close to you aye

doesn't mean it wont

if only they played by those rules

[restive slate]

I heard wound curio is unnecessary

[feral verge]

yeah

it's like expecting failure

it's better to prevent going down in the first place

[restive slate]

How about Stam though? I got a +3 that I'm not ready to part with haha

[wide tiger]

shieldgryn with all wound curios - dressed for success

[brisk maple]

nah on psyker i used one in case if you blow up yourself, sometimes on zelot is too good option - running all time with 2hp isnt safe

[feral verge]

stam is a survivability tool

[brisk maple]

depends from weapon what. atm my zelot have 2hp + 1 stamina 3 - focus on regen stamina. Very nice in close combat and all time sliding / running

[rocky cedar]

You heard that cause most Vets are bad at the game TBH

[feral verge]

rip vets

i see vets and psykers get downed the most

[rocky cedar]

One health curio on Vet is acceptable

[lethal folio]

Psyker gets a lot of use from a +3 stamina curio.

[rocky cedar]

Personally I go all toughness with sniper resist on Vet

Psyker 2 toughness + 1 stamina feels great to me

[feral verge]

should i forgo a 25%hp curio for this

[rocky cedar]

I'd probably sub a Toughness out for HP if I was trying to run grims

[feral verge]

first time i've heard ability reduction

[rocky cedar]

HP is not better lol

It's situational

Ability reduction also sucks

That's a lot of bad takes TBH

[feral verge]

lmao

[rocky cedar]

I play Damn

Lol

[feral verge]

i'm still in low int sedition

[spice veldt]

gunner damage reduction is not the ideal perk

it only affects the elites (Gunners, Reapers)

[rocky cedar]

Oh yeah those 3 seconds you saved off your Ult for the cost of 3 perks is sooooooo valuable

[restive slate]

Later someone asks the meta build for prologue

[feral verge]

lmfao

what about corruption resist?

[rocky cedar]

Gunner resist is also pretty bad

Who honestly dies to Reapers or gunner elites?

[restive slate]

Corruption resist for BoN slime sliding build?

[spice veldt]

reapers can be staggered by staff LMBs, so they're not really a threat unless you're in open space against 3+ reapers

and they're a big target to hit, and they also don't move very much

[brisk maple]

good if you want take grims, on 5lvl is like 10k+ more golds so, one 15% safe a lot hp

[rocky cedar]

Probs don't call people that if you don't wanna get banned

[spice veldt]

i bet he's going to double down

there we go

[clear heath]

it's not

[feral verge]

yeah i have a grim resist

wish it was something else though

[rocky cedar]

<@&735928989146939404> might wanna keep an eye on this one

Whatever they can run whatever bad perks they want

[lament glen]

Bye.

[jade mulch]

what gawain said

[restive slate]

Wow

That's the most efficient Inquisitorial act I've seen, impressive!

[rocky cedar]

What an actual clown

[wide tiger]

reapers do like 300% damage to health if your toughness is stripped

I have definitely died to a reaper

Not saying i run gunner resist, but yeah

[rocky cedar]

Yeah but you have an eternity to get behind cover

[wide tiger]

well, you're also being staggered to shit when they focus you

[spice veldt]

eh, just throw a bolt into them

they get staggered immediately

[rocky cedar]

It's not a worthless perk but it ain't great

[restive slate]

I do appreciate the Reaper having audio cues too

[wide tiger]

i would never take gunner resist

over something universal

[brisk maple]

yes yes, and then you see all three comrades die surrounded by gunners or cant even move. All 15% def is good. Enough to save your ass more than once. no one can tell me gunners and reapers aren't a threat

[forest coral]

Usually in that situation you’re dead anyway if there’s that many reapers and gunners firing at you

[wide tiger]

flamer resist makes me ???

[wide tiger]

pretty much

[restive slate]

Curios shouldn't have locked perks I feel

[rocky cedar]

Shooters are a threat

[spice veldt]

shooters are the main threat; gunners and reapers are not

[wide tiger]

I would probably take a shotgun resist if it existed

[rocky cedar]

In my experience gunners are not

[wide tiger]

and if general shooter resist existed that would be BiS

[restive slate]

Barrel resistance perk when?

[spice veldt]

gunners do dinky damage, and reapers are easy to stagger

[rocky cedar]

When I see gunners I'm like hooray free warp charges and kill feed hell yeah

[wide tiger]

you know i got fucked up by a reaper in melee when i went in with a dueling sword cause it didnt have enough stagger to stagger him

that was a funny oh shit moment

[spice veldt]

enemies without a dedicated melee do a surprising amount of melee damage

mfing flamers

[wide tiger]

how come their ranged special activated melee is good

[forest coral]

I still remember pre patch reapers would make vets and zealots life hell because they fired at the same suburb you were in

[wide tiger]

meanwhile im out here doing like 5 damage with my staff

[forest coral]

suppressed for no reason

[restive slate]

Oh speaking of Duelling sword, I heard there's a slide attack move tech akin to catachan blade?

[spice veldt]

weak psyker arms

[wide tiger]

true

[spice veldt]

can't even use 2h chain weapons

that slide tech got nerfed a while back

[forest coral]

Psykers noodly arms

Big foreheads

[restive slate]

It's "By my Incomparable Mind" not Incomparable biceps after all

[feral verge]

sad charge rate

but that should be solid

[restive slate]

Hmmm blazing spirit, I've never seen it in action haha

[feral verge]

put transfer peril over blazing spirit

no matter what, keep warp flurry

[forest coral]

It would be somewhat decent if void had a good crit rate

[restive slate]

Only it's lmb has crit rate no?

[rocky cedar]

Blazing spirit ain't gonna do anything without warp nexus

[forest coral]

I think so

[rocky cedar]

Even then questionable

[spice veldt]

as far as I know, the LMB and RMB of weapons have the same crit rate

[forest coral]

And even then 3 blaz stacks is kinda laughable atm

[rocky cedar]

Yeah have fun with 1/20 shots proccing

With warp nexus you can at least get that to more like 1/7

[restive slate]

Psyker Soulblaze Ult is more reliable

[rocky cedar]

Run a crit perk too and you can reasonably have 1/5

Not worth giving up flurry and peril vent on HS I'd say

[restive slate]

Is Blazing Spirit on Surge?

[rocky cedar]

No

[restive slate]

Shame

[spice veldt]

you would think

[rocky cedar]

Because then it would actually be useful

Trauma and Void only

[restive slate]

Ah yes the weapons that blow enemies up in aoe... Let's give them dot on chance blessings! Genius

[wide tiger]

Blessings are just a mess in general

[spice veldt]

tbf, they also have a massive outer radius

trauma in particular

so far, we have soulblaze blessings and a class with soulblaze feats, but neither of these go very far

besides purg being purg

[wide tiger]

I've tried so hard to go all in on soulblaze and im disappointed everytime

[restive slate]

Hopefully upcoming patch buffs up Psyker and Ogryn a bunch

[wide tiger]

"Small buffs" : Psykers now have double bleedout state hp. You're welcome guys.

[restive slate]

Psyker crafting feels so limited atm

Veteran silent buff? Haha

[ember hornet]

leveling a psyker atm in heresy, vets delete everything blue feelsbadman

[spice veldt]

maybe zealot feats get broken again

[restive slate]

Blue glowing head? Must shoot before it explodes!

[spice veldt]

yeah, the only way to kill something before others can get to it is with melee

[ember hornet]

void and force sword feels kinda fun so far

[forest coral]

Psykers only really shine in damnation

[ember hornet]

trauma was not terrible

[wide tiger]

Vets never stop deleting everything

[ember hornet]

I hate surge as a hammer user so probably not gonna use that lol

[restive slate]

Psyker Force Hammer when? Lol

[ember hornet]

why are people hating on force sword so much

cause it's not caxe?

[restive slate]

Surge is more cc anyway can't expect it to kill much

[leaden thunder]

it's damage isn't great without sluaghterer

[restive slate]

I like force sword

[leaden thunder]

it's passable

[forest coral]

Cause they don’t know how to use it properly

[ember hornet]

I meant I hate when psykers use surge when I have hammer on zealot

[restive slate]

It's not the best weapon but put some tenderloving care into fs and it can work wonders

[ember hornet]

the fs special feels nice but a bit wonky at times

[spice veldt]

requires a lot of RNG to get a good one

and i need to run the trauma staff to get the most use out of it

because the special locks you in place

[ember hornet]

yeah it's fairly fast on a light though

[spice veldt]

but the lights are also shit

[restive slate]

Ah I remember someone surge staggered a poxburster as I was about to push it then it got shot or something and I flew down to the lower floor

[spice veldt]

shit cleave and shit damage

the 1st light exists so that you can get to the 2nd heavy

[ember hornet]

yeah left diagonal

is nice

[spice veldt]

tbf, it's better than duelling sword lights

still hate them

except the 2nd light

[restive slate]

I appreciate the dodges fs gives

[spice veldt]

2nd light is terrible

[ember hornet]

the head poke is decent

[restive slate]

I wonder how an actual swordsman would react to the 2nd light of fs

[spice veldt]

nvm i lied about force sword lights being better than duelling sword lights

i thought they cleaved 3 poxwalkers, but they only cleave 2

[restive slate]

You can... force push!

[ember hornet]

earlier it seemed like I did 3000 damage to a mutant with one BB

is that possible

[cyan notch]

3 with slaughterer

if u got a flayer proc on your bb maybe

[spice veldt]

i can't believe the heavies have three times the cleave of the lights

[ember hornet]

I have healthbars on for mutants and it said 3000 and died instantly

don't think anyone else hit it but maybe other psyker did at exactly the same time

[cyan notch]

was someone else shooting ur mutant

[restive slate]

Did the brain burst trigger another brain burst?

[spice veldt]

cereberal lacerations and 6 warp charges?

[ember hornet]

I'm only level 18

so probably not

seemed wrong, probably wrong

some other source of damage I didn't see I guess

[restive slate]

I don't think bb can crit, unlikely

[ember hornet]

only saw 1 hit, but probably can't trust that fully

[flat cargo]

my baby 😍

finally

[floral solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-click-nice-man-guy-gif-21933845

[flat cargo]

now I just gotta find that warp flurry 4

[hollow current]

Same. I've had no luck with upgrades though.

[grizzled iris]

My Baby ❤️

[feral verge]

wish mine had warp flurry 4

but its locked at flurry 3

[olive ember]

wait did someone get yeeted and deleted out of psyker chat while I was gone? wat did I miss?

[feral verge]

but everything else is godroll on it

[floral solstice]

wot who what happened

was there another sweaty fight

[olive ember]

idk I saw a warden show up and msg deleted

[spice veldt]

somebody got real heated that we didn't like his opinion that gunner resist was good and he said the r word twice

[olive ember]

the r word?

[feral verge]

it was blink

retard

[olive ember]

oh

[hollow current]

ratatouille

[floral solstice]

i thought raisins

[olive ember]

I use that word alot XD

[spice veldt]

damn raisins are that bad to you?

[olive ember]

remind me to hold my tongue I suppose

I blame CSGO and League

[spice veldt]

i blame CSGO and league

[olive ember]

nah csgo is just as bad

well I was worse in csgo

cuz I actually took comp seriously back in like 2017

never gave two shits about league

[floral solstice]

yeah in dota the r word is starting to feel like a compliment because there are worse things to say lol

[forest coral]

Evil league players be like “good game, well played” and actually mean it

[olive ember]

Lmao I've never seen anyone say that

[forest coral]

Exactly

[olive ember]

its normally "holy shit top diff how did you throw that hard"

followed by a bunch of slurs

[leaden thunder]

it's me

[scarlet bear]

I say good game

[leaden thunder]

I am the evil league player

or was

[olive ember]

I say bg

like unironically i go bg if I had a trash game

[leaden thunder]

I say ez when I lose

[olive ember]

and I just don't say anything if I win

XD

[scarlet bear]

Sean your evil

[olive ember]

ffxiv is my therapy

[leaden thunder]

[olive ember]

it makes me not toxic

[forest coral]

When i die, come to my funeral so you can let me down one more time

Ff14 is like

[leaden thunder]

my mental health has skyrocketed since I stopped playing league

[forest coral]

uwu overload

[scarlet bear]

My favorite is

[floral solstice]

toxic people smh, definitely cant be me

[scarlet bear]

I call my team mates dad because there never there 😦

In reality I have a good dad xd

[forest coral]

Many moba players claiming they’re my dad or did things to my family members