psyker-class

[still hearth]

Not super useful

But its funny that it works

Just raise your weapon and the flames burn stronger

[leaden thunder]

zealot magic

[still hearth]

Psyker gets it too on Axes

Which is even more warp fun

[strange wigeon]

fanning the flames with your antax, the ol' fashioned way

[still hearth]

I still need to check

How stacking purge works

I assume no one has done that properly yet

To see if the stacks combine into a single damage, or if they're separate stacks of damage

[fierce sinew]

we haven't had the technology really

until recently

[still hearth]

Well you could've probably done it with bosses but it was definitely hard to tell

[fierce sinew]

yeah

[still hearth]

Since even if they stack separately 177 + 177 isn't that easy to see difference between that and 500 per tick

[olive ember]

What you mean by purge stacking?

[safe crystal]

Caxes can get limb splitter and thrust both, right?

[still hearth]

Having two Purge staffs

[olive ember]

Oh yeah dunno then

[fierce sinew]

suppose you and I both put 5 stacks on the boss

is the boss taking 5 stack damage x2, or 10 stack damage?

[olive ember]

This is why I ask if I see another psyker if they are running purge or not

[still hearth]

Well if they combine you'd go from doing 340 damage per tick to about 500 damage with two maxed purge staffs

But then also how does that work with perks

[spice veldt]

Uncanny Strike also causes your Soulblaze ticks to start dealing some good damage to Crushers

[still hearth]

And bonus damage

[olive ember]

I am pretty sure it’s the former btw cuz I think I remember seeing bosses take multiple burn procs

But I could be misremembering

[fierce sinew]

this is consideration that made me assume initially that they're all separate

(which I still operate under)

[still hearth]

Yeah I'd assume they're separate.

Which makes it slightly worse but still not bad to have two Purge staffs

[shy fiber]

Omg why does Trauma staff cause so much peril

[fierce sinew]

if the same dot was getting buffed by 2 (or 3, or 4) sets of perks and blessing surely that would be plainly visible

[still hearth]

It used to cost twice as much too

[fierce sinew]

poor slugs would

evaporate

[spice veldt]

it was fine pre-patch for killing shooters if you ran Quietude

[fierce sinew]

4 players using the double blessing axe setup above on 6 warp charges + tier 4 unyielding would be doing just over 27,000 damage per tick

[mellow dock]

Guys what are the best blessings for the blaze force sword?

[leaden thunder]

[leaden thunder]

sluaghterer

• deflector or bloodthirsty, or like uncanny strike if you can't get bloodthirsty

[hybrid solstice]

Precognition :)))

[spice veldt]

Slaughterer alongside Exorcist/Bloodthirsty/Uncanny Strike/Deflector

[mellow dock]

this is what i have so far

[leaden thunder]

get sluaghterer in place of exorcist imo

[spice veldt]

If you know how to dodge-slide, then you don't need Deflector

[fierce sinew]

honestly with the passive quelling change exorcist might actually have a role in the game now

not like, a stellar role

[leaden thunder]

I mean

the fs didn't get effected by it iirc

[spice veldt]

The only downside with Exorcist is that it only quells once per swing

[leaden thunder]

or it got buffed even

[spice veldt]

even if you hit multiple weakspots in your swing

[fierce sinew]

right, the fact that other weapons used to do a better version of this for free but don't any more means if you want to swing and quell at the same time

[mellow dock]

Ok ill give this a few tries

[fierce sinew]

this is what there is

[mellow dock]

and switch to slaughterer

ty

[fierce sinew]

letting it multihit like the void equivalent would be way better though

[digital narwhal]

Reckon Infested might be better over Flak on this considering I use my Trauma Staff on any Flak enemies I see?

[spice veldt]

slaughterer is extremely strong because it increases both the damage and cleave (targets hit) by your weapon

[fierce sinew]

and your soulblaze damage

[mellow dock]

what about blazing spirit?

[spice veldt]

if you don't use Trauma as your hordeclear, then sure why not

[digital narwhal]

Also Stagger too

[digital narwhal]

I use Trauma for everything really; Chainsword is my back up for when I'm forced into melee

[spice veldt]

I personally dislike the stagger increase because it also affects your pushes

so I just end up sending groaners to the nth dimension whenever I push-cancel my combo

[echo turtle]

Hmmm this makes me@wondwr

if you took bonus power blessings, would 4 charges be enough to kill pox walkers in damnation

cuz, you could do AB + flayer + psykinetic for lots of nova spam

[mellow dock]

has anyone tried blazing spirit yet?

[spice veldt]

i think syllogism or somebody else did that

[leaden thunder]

blazing spirit is neat

but not great

[fierce sinew]

a lot of the potential power + BB applications died with the patch that killed similar "bonus from weapon I'm not currently holding" strategies

[leaden thunder]

you'd want it with bloodthirsty

[spice veldt]

#psyker-class message

In that video, I think their axe has Thrust and there's a glitch that not swinging your heavy will cause you to maintain the power buff of Thrust

[digital narwhal]

Ayyyyy, might finally have a decent weapon for Gun Psyker too

I might be able to make somethin' outta this

High Mobility is an oof but

Doesn't have bad stats

And +Flak is nice

[leaden thunder]

I don't think that one cares about stopping power as much

[digital narwhal]

It's mulching Flak enemies quite nicely anyway

So ye

Shouldn't be too bad

[shy fiber]

I got this earlier thinking that I would be able to spam the shockwave

[digital narwhal]

Plus it makes my Psyker look cool asf

[shy fiber]

But oh my god why is the peril cost so bad

Dear lord

[digital narwhal]

You used to only be able to use 2 secondary fires before hitting almost max Peril

[shy fiber]

Trauma staff like

[digital narwhal]

It was wayyyyyyy worse

[shy fiber]

It still doesn't feel good to use

[cold geode]

even with 60% peril resist on a trauma staff, you should be able to get 4 fully charged shots off before hitting 100%

[digital narwhal]

I dunno, I like Trauma now

[spice veldt]

warp flurry is nice for both the faster cast and lower peril cost

[digital narwhal]

Let's me turn people into soup.

[cold geode]

its got the same peril as the void now

warp flurry is a great thing for trauma

[digital narwhal]

Also, Inner Tranquility + Warp Flurry helps the Peril cost immensely.

[cold geode]

yea

i was using the trauma before they buffed it, i really liked it

[digital narwhal]

same

[cold geode]

now that its gotten a facelift its prime

[digital narwhal]

Could still use a bump to it's AOE but

Ye

It's good

[cold geode]

i would like it to gain some benefit from the shattering blessing but thats just me

[spice veldt]

Trauma is extremely good for starting engagements with shooters

[shy fiber]

How does Warp Flurry help with peril?

[spice veldt]

because you just kill entire groups of them when they're clumped up

since the peril is generated per second

not per charge level

if you charge faster, then you consume less peril overall

[shy fiber]

Oh shit I didn't think of that

I was able to earn Warp Flurry 4 so I can put it on my staff as soon as I get the plasteel

[spice veldt]

for some reason, the Charge Rate stat on your staffs also increases the peril generated per second

[shy fiber]

THERES HOPE AFTER ALL

[spice veldt]

but Warp Flurry doesn't

[digital narwhal]

Shortens cast time, reduces Peril built because of it

[spice veldt]

so Warp Flurry has the dual benefit of being faster and reducing peril usage

[shy fiber]

It doesn't?

Does Brittleness only affect other teammates?

[spice veldt]

Trauma's secondary only has a lower damage mod against Infested

[cold geode]

it applies the debuff, but doesnt benefit itself from it

[digital narwhal]

Trauma does max damage vs Carapace anyway

It's there to help teammates

It's a support Blessing

[shy fiber]

Oh ok

[shy fiber]

What perks should I get for it

[cold geode]

i know its a support blessing but it would be nice to actually have it do /something/ for you outside of increasing your own melee dmg vs target

[digital narwhal]

A fully charged shockwave with Rending Shockwave can make Crushers a joke since it knocks them on their ass and applies Brittleness

[spice veldt]

replace sprint with Unarmoured

to kill dreg enemies

[digital narwhal]

^

Flak/Unarmoured is the best all round Perk duo in the game

[shy fiber]

Aye ok

[digital narwhal]

Flak/Maniac being a close second

For certain weapons

[spice veldt]

Maniac for melee weapons

[leaden thunder]

flak maniac for melee most the time

[shy fiber]

Does it still apply to shielded enemies if it doesn't deal damage?

Or does it have to deal damage?

[leaden thunder]

flak unarmored for ranged

[digital narwhal]

Whatcha mean?

[shy fiber]

I've noticed that the shield dudes only get staggered

Unless you're able to get behind them

[spice veldt]

prob blasting a Bulwark from the front

[shy fiber]

Even positioning the circle to hit them from behind doesn't technically hit them

[spice veldt]

you can stagger Bulwarks with a Trauma staff underneath or behind them as long as it's charged enough

[shy fiber]

You have to physically be behind them for it to hit

I wonder if the debuff still hits

[digital narwhal]

Ye, hit behind the Bulwark

[spice veldt]

you don't deal any damage unless you're behind them

[digital narwhal]

and then they'll be knocked down

[spice veldt]

i have no idea since they changed it so that shield hits don't count as "non weakspot hits" anymore, but maybe it'll just count as a simple hit?

[digital narwhal]

Okay yeah, this is 100% my Gun Psyker weapon from now on.

Just gotta hope I get a good 2nd Blessing

Really satisfying to use too

[twilit flicker]

Gandalf dropped his staff for an AK

[solar cloak]

you’re god damn right

[shadow quail]

Just returned, are the crafting blessing unlocks per class? or account wide. I assume class.

[lilac tapir]

is this worth taking or...? 375 is a pretty good roll

[gleaming comet]

blessing unlocks are account-wide

but dependent on overarching weapon archetypes

[shadow quail]

Nice!

I have some great blessing on my psyker guns for my vet

[gleaming comet]

like getting blessings for your Braced Autoguns won't get you the same blessings on your Headhunter Autoguns, for instance

[shadow quail]

ahh

[lilac tapir]

and none of the staves share blessing too... because that would be too easy 🙂

[shadow quail]

Well, still better than character bound

eh yeah that kinda sucks

[digital narwhal]

I really hope the next Psyker Career is "martial" focused with Feats for melee and gunplay.

[spice veldt]

melee melee melee

[lilac tapir]

@digital narwhal is this good for gun build or should I look for something else?

[spice veldt]

gave us 0.5s stam regen and only 1 class melee

[digital narwhal]

Headhunter Autoguns are kinda mid

I'd say take a Blessing and put it onto an Infantry Autogun

Or wait

Unless Headhunter Autogun Blessings can only be put onto Headhunters-

Not sure how it works with Autoguns

[lilac tapir]

which one should I take from this one? Ghost or Headhunter?

(assuming it works on the other guns :))

[feral verge]

gun talk? in my psyker chat?

[digital narwhal]

Personal preference tbh

But I'd probably take

Headhunter

[lilac tapir]

what would you pair it with (other blessing)?

[digital narwhal]

Either Deadly Accurate or Opening Salvo

Okay ye, can't put Headhunter Blessings onto Infantry Autoguns

Unfortunate

Did you dismantle it yet?

Maybe hold off on doing so

[rocky cedar]

How we feeling about the promised further Psyker buffs?

[spice veldt]

isn't Deadly Accurate total shit because it's only on crits and it enhances the weakspot damage

[rocky cedar]

Any bets on what's coming?

[rocky cedar]

It's still significant on Vraks VII since it has both a high crit and headshot multiplier

[spice veldt]

maybe tweaks to staffs

[rocky cedar]

And can be made to crit very often

[digital narwhal]

Ye but it's one of the only synergistic Blessings for Headhunter

[lilac tapir]

I didn't buy it, don't wanna spend 2.5k melks for that. If it was Infantry with those rolls, and at least one good blessing/perk, that would be different 🙂

[safe crystal]

Normalized passive quelling again, this time so everything is on non-force weapon level right now

[digital narwhal]

Fair

But ye

Focus on getting an Infantry Autogun instead

[spice veldt]

i doubt they'll touch anything related to passive quelling

[digital narwhal]

I got myself a Mk V Columnus and this thing fucks up anything I point it at

[rich rose]

^ I'll stick with staffs but yes

[spice veldt]

i personally don't think passive quelling should be fast anyways

[rocky cedar]

Can you imagine a real special attack that actually serves a purpose?

That'd be crazy

[spice veldt]

? our 30 damage staff hits are really impactful

maybe they should buff the crit damage

so that blood thirsty + staff bonk is a viable strat

[rocky cedar]

Infantry autogun?

[digital narwhal]

Ye

[safe crystal]

Woah woah woah, staff bonk has a use

[rocky cedar]

That's the worst infantry autogun by a good margin

[digital narwhal]

Don't care

It shoots fast

Gives me happy chemicals

[rocky cedar]

Yes now try Agrip

Or Graia

Anyway use what you like obviously

[digital narwhal]

But happy chemicals

[pearl lion]

Staff melee is best gun

[rocky cedar]

Just thought you might not be aware

[digital narwhal]

Oh I know, but still.

I can make a gun work.

As long as it's not a Recon Lasgun.

[safe crystal]

You can reliably put poxbursters on the armed-but-downed mode with staff bonk for those spicy surprises for everyone

Just gotta bonk then swap to melee quick

And push

[spice veldt]

and with force sword push into a push-attack

[digital narwhal]

Staff Bonk should do a knockback around who you hit it with

Like Power Maul's charged bonk

[spice veldt]

and from there, all forms of stagger will juggle the poxburster around

including the staff LMB, so that you can send a poxburster to your teammate from a distance away

[pearl lion]

Nemesis Force Halberd when

[cold geode]

next week

[pearl lion]

o cool

[feral verge]

i'm working on a staff melee build that's going to change the way everyone plays the game

[lilac tapir]

reminds of of Dawn of War librarian hero AoE attack, he would put down his staff and project a force wave all around, knocking everything back

[pearl lion]

I for one think that having a stormbolter slapped on a force spear is very fair and balanced for the psyker

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty on your force sword also gives guaranteed crits to the staff bonk

i wonder how long it would take to complete a mission with 4 psykers using only their staff special

[digital narwhal]

Tried it out; still prefer the Columnus

Feels better.

[shy fiber]

Gun? Psyker?

What? Do those two words even go together?

[rocky cedar]

They can

Game isn't that hard play what you like

[shy fiber]

HERESY

[rocky cedar]

Unless it's shieldgryn

[shy fiber]

I’m joking

Dw

I don’t care

[rocky cedar]

If you're a shieldgryn never speak to me

[shy fiber]

Wdym

Don’t you like sitting in one area the entire game

[digital narwhal]

Even if the Columnus is the worst Infantry Autogun, it still feels plenty good enough.

Kills quickly.
Stable enough for me to control properly.

[rocky cedar]

I like my team mate's having at least double digit kill counts if possible

[rich rose]

IF you like it, use it

[digital narwhal]

If I can make pre-buff Kickback and pre-buff Ripper Guns work, then I can make this work.

[shy fiber]

As long as you can make it work

[rocky cedar]

@digital narwhal you really don't have to prove anything to me, use what you want

Also pre buff Ripper wasn't bad

[rich rose]

Some people get way to stuck on the "numbers." I am playing to have fun

[shy fiber]

The true Warhammer 40k: Darktide is gatekeeping what people can and cannot use

[digital narwhal]

Certainly weren't the best though.

But ye.

[rocky cedar]

It was just ammo hungry mainly

Which is still is but can sustain better

[cold geode]

reading the rules to one another is 80% of all warhammer game play across all mediums

[vague hornet]

hey

I just picked up my psyker again, wich staff is good for end game now ?

purgat or surge ?

[pearl lion]

Voidstrike numbah 1 baybee

[cold geode]

depends on what you want to do, surge is a CC stick, not much damage, Purge does decent damage, and has some cc but not as strong as surge, trauma blows things up/mulches hordes, void explodes shit

[pearl lion]

(I dunno)

[digital narwhal]

All of them are good

Just depends what role ya wanna fill

[spice veldt]

purgatus is generally considered the best

[digital narwhal]

^

But the others are still good

[vague hornet]

my friends do damnation and I want to play with em but kinda need something really good

we are one of each class

[digital narwhal]

I'd so go the easy route of either Surge Staff spam or Purgatus + Ascendant Blaze

Does your Zealot use the Flamer?

[cold geode]

i personally cycle through staffs a bit, right now im playing with a void, but surge has been my go to for a while in damnation cause i like stunning shit and letting the team kill it

[vague hornet]

thanks for the answers 🙂

what is your surge build ?

[pearl lion]

Voidstrike is my fav cause thing go boom

[vague hornet]

sorry purgat

I run 1-1-1-2-3-2

[cold geode]

its decidedly not "meta" but it works for me

i use that for surge

[digital narwhal]

1-1-1-2-1-2

Or 1-1-1-1-1-2

[vague hornet]

gotchta

[cold geode]

current weapons, i swap the melee around a bunch but kinda settled on the antax for now

waiting to change blessings on the staff, need to farm good ones

[feral verge]

Afaik warp flurry is not working on surge and purga rn

[cold geode]

yep

dont have anything good to replace it with so meh

[feral verge]

I'd keep it tbh

It will be worth it when it's fixed

[cold geode]

maybe "next week" when the psyker buffs supposedly happen they will have at least fixed it

[digital narwhal]

Does Quietude work with Passive Quell?

I forgot

[spice veldt]

ye

[digital narwhal]

Good to know

[spice veldt]

so if you're passively regenning toughness from quietude and getting shot at, your screen will also flicker

is very fun

[digital narwhal]

Might find myself a low Warp Resistance Force Sword to pair with my Autogun to just spam the Special before going into a firefight

and get more passive Toughness regen

[spice veldt]

though the passive regen is super slow

i think it takes 17 seconds (including the 3 second delay) to reach from 100% to 30%

and 13 seconds for 30% to 0%

[digital narwhal]

Still.

Or would Essence Harvest be better for a Gun Psyker build?

[spice veldt]

i think that's what rhinoxerous runs

with essence harvest at least for gun builds

[digital narwhal]

With Kinetic Flayer and Psychic Communion

I think I'll try that

[vague hornet]

what is the gameplay with purgat stafff ?

spamm right click or ?

[spice veldt]

this was his gunker build
#psyker-class message

[digital narwhal]

Your primary fire is for "Oh fuck" moments to stagger something a bit

[spice veldt]

left-click has a strong stagger, and right-click applies more Soulblaze to enemies

[digital narwhal]

You mostly use your secondary fire

[vague hornet]

thanks 😄

[spice veldt]

oh I guess with the low warp res sword, you can make use of Kinetic Shield

[digital narwhal]

True

[echo turtle]

another FS user, another poor performance.

playing with my buddy doing his ogryn weeklies I said at the start if the game.

This fs guy, is gonna have a wound curio and not melee shit

I killed more with my axe than he got with his flame thrower

maybe I killed, 1 less guy

hot damn

the emperor protects

[safe crystal]

My dude, why do you pin it on the weapon instead of the player just being not as good?

[echo turtle]

My dude, the weapon sucks

you give a good player a shit weapon and they are gonna do poorly

[spice veldt]

it's a fine weapon

[safe crystal]

I mean, you're saying shit like AB is worse than KB at taking out groups of gunners at range, so your takes are pretty questionable ngl

[echo turtle]

everyone keeps saying how great it is, yet I never match with a player doing great with it

just putting that out there

[spice veldt]

idk be the change that you want or something something

[echo turtle]

I didn’t say that. I said your example was bad

I use AB all the time, you never get to light up 30 gunners

I was using surge here in that game tho

[spice veldt]

me getting more kills than a heavy sword doesn't mean that the force sword is better than a heavy sword

[viral solstice]

if i was usin the force sword

i woulda got 69 kills

a second

and i woulda looked cool af (probably)

das factual

cos i just made it up

but it sounds credible, too me

[safe crystal]

Uhhuh.

After that, i chimed in, and you backed off and got on the defensive after i asked you to kill 10 shooters faster than AB kills them, which is 10 seconds btw, if you need it. Through chaff, but you can run your test without chaff

[olive ember]

Hey i'm in the screenshot

I feel special now

[safe crystal]

You're famous!

[twilit flicker]

Youre famous!

Hahaha

[cyan notch]

youre famous!

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-sax-guy-gif-18663354

[safe crystal]

But anyways, maniacs or flak on this FS? Hadron gave it unstable and riposte sadly, and infested/sprint efficiency

[echo turtle]

I love this axe. 1500 a weakspot hit

on muties

[olive ember]

herm

flak means better against maulers

maniac means better against ragers

good question

[spice veldt]

maniac cuz fuck mutants

and fuck dreg ragers

maulers can be finished off by normals while ragers have their dumb ass undodgeable combos

[olive ember]

oh right mutants are maniacs

btw who is the random lady on the comms link anyways

[cyan notch]

maniac better imo

thats catfish

[olive ember]

oh

was wondering XD

[cyan notch]

you already 1 shot heavy maulers

[olive ember]

its a bit finicky

[cyan notch]

and 1 shot light headshot scab ragers

[olive ember]

man I'm pretty madge my fucking replacement FS has

fucking unstable power

fuck me might as well give me precognition

[spice veldt]

be careful about what you wish for

[safe crystal]

It goes up to 4 stacks, gives a stack at 30,50,and 2 stacks at 97% peril

So 5%*4

Its still bad but at least its better than precog

[olive ember]

Did I mention it rolled sprint efficiency as well?

[digital narwhal]

Hadron is only giving me T2 Blessings for my Psyker weapons

I thought she was supposed to give T3 and T4

:V

[hard oyster]

A part of me wants as much sprint as possible purely cuz it's funny.

[olive ember]

rng, best way to get t3 t4 is to use weeklies

and recylce

[hard oyster]

Sprint efficiency should be removed, and replaced with speed

[twilit flicker]

Is precog really that bad? Well theres a general consensus so i believe you guys.
But how is crit dmg and weakspot dmg calculated. Doesnt the knife get damage the same way, crits on weakspots?

[spice veldt]

suppose that a weapon does 10 dmg and 11 weakspot dmg

+80% weakspot damage is +0.8 damage

because it only boosts that extra 1 damage

[hard oyster]

That's silly.

[safe crystal]

Its added to the damage difference between a normal hit and weakspot/crit instead of the entire damage.

[hard oyster]

And doesn't translate well.to a person caring about it lol

[twilit flicker]

I guess the knife is good because its fast, is that right?

[safe crystal]

Example here, the antax light 1 has a 60 damage difference between body and weakspot on infested, so you add that 4% to the 60 damage instead of the entire 289

[hard oyster]

That just sounds so weak

[twilit flicker]

Sounds like a bug

Plz fix fatshark

[safe crystal]

Hopefully its a bug and not just a massive balancing issue

Then again, this is Obese Megalodon

[spice veldt]

probably a bug in the sense that different programmers had different ideas about what weakspot dmg was

because who the fuck calculates weakspot damage like this

[hard oyster]

Teams not communicating?

[spice veldt]

how could you ever have a coworker who made this calculation

my theory is that their internal documentation is just really shit

weird inconsistencies in descriptions

[cyan notch]

its not a bug

[echo turtle]

I dont think this is right

[cyan notch]

they already mentioned in forums

[echo turtle]

but it could be

[safe crystal]

You're free to prove me wrong

[echo turtle]

When I put weakspot damage + on my dagger it went up by the 40% total

the modifier is huge tho

[safe crystal]

Im glad we used the same weapon in our examples

[echo turtle]

so you tested this or wht?

[spice veldt]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/counterfire-is-still-not-applying-the-correct-amount-of-weakspot-damage/75377/4

[cyan notch]

yup thats the one

[echo turtle]

the knife is like a Force sword that attacks twice as fast, does more damage and has better blessings.

you trade infinite dodges for longer dodges and get a huge sprint speed boost

[shadow quail]

best blessings for a surge?

[spice veldt]

are you really going to argue that any of the knife's blessings is better than slaughterer

[echo turtle]

nexus and flurry

[wide tiger]

You have like 3 options in the surge staff blessing pool lol

[safe crystal]

Flurry doesnt work on surge afaik

[shadow quail]

it doesnt?

[cyan notch]

knife isnt like fs at all

[wide tiger]

It will eventually. Plan for success, terrifying barrage is kind of ass

[cyan notch]

amusing to compare em

[spice veldt]

and i really don't get why you shit on the force sword so much

their use cases don't overlap

[shadow quail]

I like the FS for the deflect

[wide tiger]

I think deflector is a trap

[spice veldt]

Deflector is nice but you eventually learn to dodge-slide

[wide tiger]

if you have unlimited dodges you can unlimited dodge ranged enemies anyways

better off stacking as many offensive blessings on the FS to try and bring it up to useful levels

Combat axes, imo, totally outclass the force sword

especially once you start getting that brutal momentum going

[spice veldt]

normal attack wise at least

[wide tiger]

Yeah force sword has its special

[spice veldt]

force sword's only remarkable feat in that sense is that it has access to the slaughterer blessing to boost its minimum cleave damage

[cyan notch]

zamn

[twilit flicker]

Disapointing to learn about weakspot damage like that. Then again it was posted by the community support guy who suggested they make a thread in the gameplay feedback section. Nice job tricking everyone!

[spice veldt]

I like the special because it means I can deal with ragers in melee

[wide tiger]

Well

funny story

Combat axe absolutely destroys ragers

you can just spam push block attack

[spice veldt]

ah right the special breaks them out of their combo doesn't it

[wide tiger]

I can just spam push block attack against 6 ragers

and not take a hit

[cyan notch]

its just push attack

[wide tiger]

call it what you want lol

theres the push block, and the attack, so i like to clarify i do the sweeping swing after the push

[mellow dock]

Which weapons have the best push block attacks?

[cyan notch]

theres no push block

[mellow dock]

I love the Antax for sure

[cyan notch]

its just block

[mellow dock]

Yes Block push chop

[spice veldt]

one could argue that the push is the block-attack

and that the push-attack is the block-attack-attack

[mellow dock]

whatever...

[wide tiger]

like i said, call it what you want

[mellow dock]

u guys know what i mean

[spice veldt]

/s

[mellow dock]

splitting hair.

which ones do u think are good?

[cyan notch]

knife one

[spice veldt]

knife, combat axes

[twilit flicker]

Knife is good, lots of ppl say the antax is great.

[spice veldt]

force sword can stagger crushers, but it's meh since it puts them on their long cooldown

[mellow dock]

What about the Turtolsky MkVII?

[cyan notch]

tac axes are great too

[shrewd warren]

could i get a recommendation on what perks/blessing to go for on this staff? its worth investing in right?

[wide tiger]

The heavy swords are monsters

[cold geode]

antax is a beast with the right stats and blessing

[wide tiger]

I would kill for a heavy force sword

[olive ember]

transfer peril then warp flurry imo

[cold geode]

HS is a beast on zealot as well

[twilit flicker]

Oh you will ...

[cold geode]

HS is basically a power sword for zealot

[wide tiger]

yup

I want to recreate this staff but lose the shitty perk and honestly, i'd prefer warp flurry to nexus (since nexus is kinda crappy with the way the peril points work right now)

and before you comment on the ranged crit hit damage, the other perk was +1 stam lol

But i suspect even tier 4 warp nexus wouldnt do much

better off just living with 10% base crit with the perk and picking up a good tier of warp flurry

[cyan notch]

i wouldnt even get 10%

better to reroll +armor damage imo

[wide tiger]

at that point probably just better off tossing surge

going flurry + peril quell on weak hit

[cyan notch]

transfer peril and flurry miles ahead

[echo turtle]

I just got this from@melk. it’s absurd

[cyan notch]

[echo turtle]

perks are not the best,but man

[wide tiger]

51% pen 😦

[echo turtle]

that only affects carapace and flak

[wide tiger]

only

lol

Yeah

[echo turtle]

the diff between 50 and 80% is like 20% damage to flk

I would hve loved some from mobility or cleave go into there but oh well

[wide tiger]

yeah

[echo turtle]

when this thing gets going it does over 1500 to a mutie weakspot

[wide tiger]

I'm not a big fan of decimator only because i use push attack a lot of the combat axe

[echo turtle]

dunno if I want unarmored or maniac on it

[cyan notch]

i think that was the only decent one i had when i made it

[echo turtle]

yeah, In that case headtaker is ya boi

[olive ember]

every zealot in damnation just brings the autopistol

and then trolls

.>

[echo turtle]

I’m wondering if the autopistol + power affecys soulburn damage

that thing can get+100%

[safe crystal]

Sure it does, but you can only get a max of 6 stacks efficiently if you run AB + warp battery. Damage goes from 40-ish to 80 with full power

[wide tiger]

Has anyone else been getting ridiculous amounts of tier 2 perks when increasing high level profane items?

[rare rock]

hey, what are the best blessings for force staff? i rolled one with warp nexus and run and gun, i should replace run and gun right?

[wide tiger]

this is becoming more and more normal for me

[cyan notch]

what force staff

[rare rock]

oh yeah sorry lol surge

this one

[echo turtle]

with pinning and blze away it can get up to 150%. could be something there

especially if you get + vs flak + vs specialist or something

[safe crystal]

Yep, just gotta stack up to 6 between fights, or hope for lucky rolls with AB/communion

[cyan notch]

there arent many good blessings so its up to u if u like run and gun

[rare rock]

hmm it does make any difference?

[echo turtle]

Could be a off beat gunker build here. interesting

[rare rock]

im really not against it i just dont know if it works

[cyan notch]

it lets u lmb while sprinting

thats about it

[rare rock]

hmm i think i'll keep it then, seems alright

ty

[rocky cedar]

Wait I just realised, warp siphon grants bonus damage not power right?

If so it's probably multiplicative with power bonuses

[safe crystal]

It does increase soul blaze damage as well. Anything that gives +power or +damage does

You can even run DS with rampage

[rocky cedar]

So maxed blessing auto Pistol with 6 warp charges would be around 3.1x damage all up

Before perks

[safe crystal]

Just gotta get the blaze in somehow, which usually means you dump your charges with AB, sadly

[rocky cedar]

I'm not talking about soul blaze at all

Never was

[safe crystal]

Oh, just general damage?

[rocky cedar]

Just the actual autopistol itself

[safe crystal]

Hm

[echo turtle]

I was

talkin stackin blaze with pistol

[safe crystal]

I'll try and test it tomorrow

[echo turtle]

fuck yes

you got one with blaze away and uh

[rocky cedar]

I know, what you said made me trigger that warp siphon is probably multiplicative with power bonuses

[echo turtle]

what is the other

[safe crystal]

Pinning fire

[rocky cedar]

And that's busted

[echo turtle]

yeah

[safe crystal]

I have a T3 pinning on a purple pistol iirc, and a T4 blaze away waiting on rebless

[echo turtle]

I’m wondering if like, we can get soulburn damage high enough to drop communion for psykinetic aura

and spam the Fuck outa it

[rocky cedar]

T4 blaze away doesn't exist

It's a T3 only blessing

[echo turtle]

ah

still

there may be something here

[safe crystal]

Well, shit. I know i have them both though

[rocky cedar]

Anyway I think I've gotta make a force sword + autopistol Psyker now

[safe crystal]

Just cant remember which tier, just took the guns apart on psyker and never looked back

[rocky cedar]

Or maybe knife + autopistol

Might be actually kinda busted

[olive ember]

yeah im getting some bad teams in damnation

feelsbadman

[rocky cedar]

Me too bro

Shieldgryns and floor mains

[echo turtle]

fs isnt as good at this

[rocky cedar]

Joining high int

[echo turtle]

slaughterer drops out too easy

[olive ember]

idk why every autopistol zealot i've seen so far actually just sucks

[echo turtle]

antax would work, decimator and headtaker are@more consistent

[olive ember]

like I'd rather they just brought the flamer and held m1

[echo turtle]

but autopistol can instAntly get +100% and slap another 30ish on

[olive ember]

this guy spends like an entire clip to kill 2 shooters and gets shot to shit while doing so

[rocky cedar]

You should play with me I carried the shit out of high int damn last night

With my Chaxe Autopistol Zealot

[rocky cedar]

I'm still not taking about soul blaze

I'd be bringing it for single target

[echo turtle]

word

[rocky cedar]

Because auto pistol ruins hordes

[echo turtle]

I’m eyeing up a slaughteror/shred FS

that thing, I could give a try

[rocky cedar]

Only FS combo I'm interesting in outside usual meta is Bloodthirsty + Blazing spirit

But I think it'd just be annoying to use in practice

[ornate hamlet]

alright, what blessings should i use to fix this

[echo turtle]

meta is slaughterer

[rocky cedar]

Bromo

[forest coral]

Bloodthirsty is a myth

[echo turtle]

people take deflector but it’s not great

[ornate hamlet]

i guess replace all or nothing?

[rocky cedar]

Correct

[echo turtle]

yeah

[echo turtle]

I’ve never seen it either :/

legend says it’s out there

[forest coral]

I know blooddrunk has a t4 one

And I’m like, hoooow

[echo turtle]

god damn

[forest coral]

which testicle did he sacrifice to rngesus for it

[echo turtle]

that makes the sword legit 10x better cuz its busted atm

that + slaughteror

god damn

[forest coral]

Wait u are liking fs what is this

Who are u and what did u do to real rhino man

[echo turtle]

With enough damage bonus I could fuck with that

it wiuld be enough to actually deal with shit

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty slaughterer is pretty good

you only need a single special kill to immediately one-shot maulers on a light-special bodyshot

same with dreg rager light-special headshots

[forest coral]

Slaughterer is like right of passage to make weapon viable

[echo turtle]

The 5 seconda of autocrits is busted, I think FS will fix it the moment I get one

[forest coral]

Bloodthirsty is that god roll

Yeah, if u do get one lemme know how things go

[spice veldt]

well slaughterer is what makes FS good--bloodthirsty is how you get slaughterer stacks

[echo turtle]

slaughteror still doesn’t quite get it where it needs to be

slaughteror + shred might be ok, but the sword needs a shot in the arm

I will

I just got a godlat antax tho so I’ll be rocking that a bit

godly*

[spice veldt]

it's still pretty good with only slaughterer; heavies cleave 10 poxwalkers and deal a minimum of 70 damage with max stacks

[echo turtle]

I used up all my luck

[spice veldt]

lights only cleave 5 and deal about 40-ish minimum cleave damage, so they're pretty much 4 times worse than heavies

[ornate hamlet]

its hard to deal lots of damage with psyker

[spice veldt]

melee is our DPS option by elimination because we have no DPS force staffs

[echo turtle]

This antax with 6 charges is bonkers. It’s dps is not far off a FS charge attack

[forest coral]

Which blessing?

[echo turtle]

Dacap4 headtaker 3

[ornate hamlet]

using the scoreboard mod is depressing

[forest coral]

Not really

[echo turtle]

yeah its not at all lol

[forest coral]

Depends what build ur playing

[spice veldt]

still workable though

[forest coral]

I regularly top damage on psyker if I use purg builds

[spice veldt]

i got 350k actual damage done compared to a bolter vet's 273k in one game

[echo turtle]

Yeah, that round I was using surge too

[spice veldt]

if you run ahead and snipe kills, you'll hog them and the damage to yourself

[echo turtle]

148k overkill XD

you should be top in Damage pretty much always

[spice veldt]

that's my strat

[echo turtle]

you can literally do nothing but brainburst specialists and top damage

[forest coral]

If u use AB in hi intens

[cold geode]

well thats some nice instability

[ornate hamlet]

thats not what i see happen

[cold geode]

got dc'd from a match, now having issues getting into the morning star

[forest coral]

You should easily top dam

[echo turtle]

Well, If you are having issues topping dam

theres players here that do it regularly

[ornate hamlet]

wat do

[echo turtle]

maybw they can help you

[ornate hamlet]

i mean ifi m playing with potatoes ofc i top

[echo turtle]

I reccomend hiding behind the team, spam@blocks until people save you. Take lots of wound curios

run away from fights, just spam your staff endlessly

[viral solstice]

[echo turtle]

😂

[viral solstice]

who cares what the scoreboard says if ur winning the run

just win

u gotta go hard

[echo turtle]

if you score@low all the time

[viral solstice]

if u got 2 vets who shooting everything fuck it

go afk

[echo turtle]

you can thank everyone else for the win

[viral solstice]

put on an episode

relax

it really dont matter

the scoreboard is all in ur mind

also on ur computer

but the computer is in ur mind too

[spice veldt]

low performing players are good anyways though since you get fed all the kills

[viral solstice]

its all a dream

[crystal jolt]

said this in another chat, but i've only ever seen the scoreboard mod used to dunk on others / say how amazing someone has done

[spice veldt]

though now that you can actually play solo, i'm prob going to do that for a while

[ornate hamlet]

i use it to track progress sigh

[echo turtle]

This is low scoring talk

[ornate hamlet]

you need to put in lots of effort to do the same damage other classes do naturally

[crystal jolt]

i genuinely don't care

[viral solstice]

i play psyker to relax i just yeet fireballs at head height and make no effort to be useful

fireball go

[forest coral]

I just like playing space magic man

Or girl in this case

[spice veldt]

i like murder

[ornate hamlet]

i only have voidstrike and guns tho

that i got from emperors gift

i'll start to grind for a purgatus

[forest coral]

hue

Don’t expect to top frag as a gunker

Unless your team is super bad

[viral solstice]

why not

u gotta gun

shoot da bad men

[forest coral]

[ornate hamlet]

the only good gun i have is a columnus autogun and a autopistol

i've been grindign for a good melee weapon first

[forest coral]

and you’re wondering why ur doing poor damage

Don’t bother with scoreboard till u get a proper build going

[ornate hamlet]

i mean i could do good damage with other classes while getting weapons

[viral solstice]

see melk has 2 staves for a change

neither have t4s

melkus ur gonna get ponched

[echo turtle]

literally any antax will do fine

that weapon even as a sub 350 white is fine

get momentum and slap + vs unarmored and that will carry you until you can build optimal weapons

staves, honestly all the buffs don’t make a huge difference

get a fire staff and you’ll do fine

surge same deal

[forest coral]

You’ll still want to hit certain % breakpoints tho

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i just got one switched from force sword

[forest coral]

Well makes ur life easier

[echo turtle]

Yeah, if you wanna actually fight stuff the antax is the best all roundwr

it can do excellent against literally everythinf

[forest coral]

force sword is a mini gear check

Needs slaughterer to be decent

[echo turtle]

rank4 slaughter no less

[forest coral]

Nah rank 3 is fine

But obv 4 nicer

[echo turtle]

that blessing really jumps up in power

anyways

[viral solstice]

rank 5 is best

[forest coral]

One day

[echo turtle]

antax mk5 allways works

[forest coral]

[echo turtle]

so thats a great start

surge and purge.

[forest coral]

antax is vanilla ice cream

[echo turtle]

pffft

with fucking sprinkles

[forest coral]

yup

won’t go wrong but can get boring

[echo turtle]

I like to switch it up

Lil daggy, lil axey

if I can get blood thirsty

lil forcey

[twilit flicker]

finally got my video uploaded, here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lesGEPRT95Q

its nothing special just a gameplay, honestly probably not a good pick for a first video

since theres some desync in the middle

[echo turtle]

not bad

[twilit flicker]

thanks!

[echo turtle]

I wish there was a mod that showed our dps

I like the effects

shredder shreds

and wtf

you edgelord

a catachan sword

The AUDACITY

[twilit flicker]

hahahaha i gotta show you it, its 8 points form max rating, i had to try it!

[echo turtle]

tight, that one hs parry right?

[twilit flicker]

yeah, its still not great ... but i mean, it is edgy

[echo turtle]

I mean, it’s basically a poweesword

same move pattern but no charge attack right?

hows the cleave damage on the hwavy swings?

[twilit flicker]

i wouldnt know, i dont play enough to be a pro let alone make other characters

[echo turtle]

word

I’m looking at vicious + rampage

looks like you can double damage on the sweeps

or nearly so

[echo turtle]

god damn peice of shit, I wanted slaughteror, blood thirsty or shred

[twilit flicker]

at least you have a backup, a back up to your backup i hope?

[echo turtle]

Its 3k dockets now

is what it is

I have another thats basically the same lol

I’ll probs just surrender that one

[rare furnace]

So what buff do you think we get

Better quell in all force weapons?

[spice veldt]

adjustments to feats

[twilit flicker]

i hope so

[rare furnace]

What feat isn’t working?

Maybe the mind in motion could get assistance or the quell resistance

[spice veldt]

they all work; just that some are total dogshit

wrack & ruin still sucks

[twilit flicker]

Mind in Motion, some people want adjustment to Kinetic Flayer but it seems fine to me personally

[spice veldt]

mind in motion still sucks

[rare furnace]

Mind in motion does everything run and gun that would be cool

[spice veldt]

Quicken still sucks

Kinetic Overload still sucks

[rare furnace]

Quicken is lvl 30?

[spice veldt]

yup

[twilit flicker]

im using mind in motion on my video, a better quicken would be exciting actually ... maybe hehe

[rare furnace]

It helps you do a penace

[spice veldt]

the one that gives you 12.5% CDR per warp charge consumed

[rare furnace]

Ah that one

[spice veldt]

lmao

[rare furnace]

Yeah it’s bad

[spice veldt]

dumps all of your warp charges

[rare furnace]

I though the faster bb

[spice veldt]

ah you were talking about pick n' mix

[wide tiger]

I've been getting so many tier 2 perks using consecrate... Im seriously suspicious at this point if they made tier 2 more common or something. No one else?

[spice veldt]

thought you were talking about cliffhanger

[rare furnace]

Dumps half would be cool

[spice veldt]

or just 2x warp charge gain

[twilit flicker]

they said it was "smol buff" so it makes me think quell changes

[north cradle]

1. Should buy?
2. Replace perks/blessings with what

[spice veldt]

if you have nothing better; having flak as a perk is nice but it's otherwise meh

[twilit flicker]

blessing look fine, i would change sprint though for crit chance

[spice veldt]

it has 79% cloud radius I suppose

purg is one of those weapons where you can just buy one from brunt's and use that one fine, so it's up to you whether you want to spend milk bottles on this

[echo turtle]

awe 😦

[twilit flicker]

actually i would buy, tier 4 terrifying barrage, if you dont like it in the end you could collect the blessing

[echo turtle]

Shop rolled over while I was looking at a 378 rating devils clw

[north cradle]

Righto, thanks for the help

But in the future, Damage is the dump stat I want on a Purgatus, yeh? Burn and Cloud Radius are the bigguns?

[feral verge]

i really hope they let you upgrade locked blessings

have warp flurry III on a godroll voidstrike staff. would love it to be 4

[cyan notch]

yea cloud slightly higher than burn imo

[safe crystal]

Welp, it goes up to ~2k DPS on a mutant with bodyshots if you stagger at least 5 enemies with your F @echo turtle Mine has a low damage roll and no modifiers for mutants though. It hogs ammo like crazy, so i wouldnt play this if theres 2+ vets in the team

Kinda weird seeing this thing do more damage than an agri brauto :L

[spice maple]

Rolled this out of boredom. Are the perks wasted on the stat distribution or is it worth using?

[digital narwhal]

I love just melting enemies with this Autogun.

[echo turtle]

bruh

thats LIT

[echo turtle]

show gun

show gun nao

[safe crystal]

I can get it up to 4k~ sometimes, but thats after killing every other specialist in the mutants group

[echo turtle]

Well

I’m gonna grind up a shreddy now

[safe crystal]

Mine is low damage roll, so

Can be better

[echo turtle]

it does way more damage up close

maniac is like 170% close

vs 60% far

go point blank him

[safe crystal]

Yup, ik. Im trying to engage where it would be reasonable to shoot at things, though

[echo turtle]

Swap carapace for maniac I suppose?

muties often are close

[safe crystal]

I was thinking more flak, since this thing already shreds maniacs, and staggers even ragers like crazy

[lyric atlas]

is this decent for leveling?

also how do i trigger sustained fire? i never see myself get a buff even if i contiunously fire

[twilit flicker]

if it melts muties it'll melt flak, you may as well put unyielding for boss damage

[spice veldt]

heavy attacks?

[olive ember]

what you mean by charged attack?

[spice veldt]

holding down LMB on melee?

depends on the melee

[olive ember]

pretty often for force sword

[spice veldt]

heavies are the only good thing about the force sword

[lyric atlas]

yes no maybe?

[spice veldt]

heavies are more situational on combat axes, but you're going to be heavying against Unyielding enemies with them often

[cyan notch]

oddly specific

but u probably have to remake ur character

[echo turtle]

I usually go for maniacs since its trappers muties flamers and ragers that get nearby and I need to drol fast

but flak also solid

[lyric atlas]

whats this mean

[spice veldt]

It's good enough. I think sustained fire is bugged on staffs? I haven't personally used it, but people say that it only works on LMB and whatnot. I personally don't like voidstrike.

[safe crystal]

That would probably be the norm for most weapons, but this thing just has an insane maniac damage %, at 170%. Flaks, it takes a while to kill them

[lyric atlas]

ya i dont either but people said it was the only wep that made us good, is there a better staff?

[twilit flicker]

mean you gotta overload yourself with peril until you explode and kill 3 specialists with the boom boom

[lyric atlas]

i need to kill a special by 100% peril dying?

[spice veldt]

who are these people >:(

purgatus is unequivocally the best staff on Psyker

[twilit flicker]

yeah 3 of them at once, its very difficult to get if youre trying intentionally, better get friends to help

or get lucky

[echo turtle]

yeah it sucks into flak I see why uou would want that

[lyric atlas]

wow thats the stupidest, 3 at the same time thats insane

[twilit flicker]

Ill change out Pinning Fire on my Autopistol for Cavalcade just to see if it fare much better against bosses, it melts everything with the stagger anyway

[echo turtle]

pinning fire gives you + power vs everything tho right?

i dont see how cavalcade matches that

crit bonus is small on the pistol too

[twilit flicker]

15% power for stagger, up to 5 ... i see now its great because of the psykers busrt

[echo turtle]

yeah

[safe crystal]

Pinning is up to 100% power, its easy to stagger things with this, and you can always use your ult for the stagger. Crit damage is like,10 more than a normal hit

[echo turtle]

so 80% power, then you keep it up

mutch better than a chance to deal 20% more damage

[twilit flicker]

pinning fire wont do anything to bosses, well unless you CAN stagger them

[safe crystal]

Pinning goes to T4, i have a T3 on this one

[twilit flicker]

or find another person to stagger

[echo turtle]

you have your bb

and melee

the gun doesnt need to be good at everything

my crappy blue shredder deals 1700 dps to a mutie

damn

[twilit flicker]

true, but this is what we do with power, we exercise it.

[echo turtle]

is this real life?

thats without blessings etc

[safe crystal]

Wait, why does ADS on this thing double its stagger

[echo turtle]

cuz you hold it sidewYs

[twilit flicker]

it also reduces it recoil by a lot

the shredder shreds

[safe crystal]

I can understand the recoil but not the stagger

You just hold it different

[lyric atlas]

wahts the strength of the force sword over the dueling swords?

[echo turtle]

yeah

well

thats how it is

[spice veldt]

more cleave (can hit more enemies in a swing)

[echo turtle]

IrL

you ever hold a gun sideaYs. you can feel thw stagger double

[safe crystal]

Gets slaughterer, more cleave, the special deals with big things okay-ish

[twilit flicker]

flexibility, you can turn it into a defensive wand or a beat stick

[spice veldt]

takes a lot mats and RNG to build a good force sword though

and it's a weapon with very strong stat scaling

meaning that a low rarity force sword is total ass

[twilit flicker]

the dueling sword is very mobile and had good range for its melee attacks though

compared to the force sword of course

[safe crystal]

I do also prefer the moveset of mkV DS over FS, but thats a preference thing

[spice veldt]

mkV also has innate block efficiency on its defense stat or as some other property of it

so if you like to block, there's that

[safe crystal]

Nah, its just push cost reduction, no block cost reduction, unless they're the same thing. Mobility and defense have overlapping things, so you can get away with a worse rating DS sometimes

[spice veldt]

block an enemy with an MKIV and an MKV

[twilit flicker]

the force sword has infinite dodge limit, but i would imagine you need a decent mobility stat to really make good use of them. i have one with decent mobility and i still run much slower than a DS, feels more like a catachan

[spice veldt]

it's not listed, but the MKV has a block cost reduction

[safe crystal]

Well goddamn, thanks Obese Megalodon

[spice veldt]

ikr

I was tanking a daemonhost in the meatgrinder for fun

and I realized that a duelling sword only lost 1 stamina bar or so against their attacks

compared to the other weapons that lost 2

[safe crystal]

HMMMM. Let me guess. The stat that governs this is on the defences, and its written as sprint cost reduction? Maybe a typo?

[spice veldt]

it might just be a non-scaling stat

so while it doesn't scale with stats, it's still there

[safe crystal]

Sprint doesnt make any sense on defences though

[cyan notch]

i think its per weapon type

they have their own bcr

[spice veldt]

i think the other duelling swords have the same block cost as the knife

[digital narwhal]

Having lotsa fun with Gun Psyker using my Mk V Autogun

[spice veldt]

i'm 70% sure that MK5 was an exception

[cyan notch]

fs takes a lot of block cost

[spice veldt]

though FS also seems to make you more immovable

blocking with other weapons made you move with every daemonhost swipe

FS grounded you in place most of the time

[spice veldt]

whew

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[ornate hamlet]

just use axe + purg and kill everything, fuck blocking

know when to use cover, know your dodge timings, stick with your group for coherency, you'll be fine

i literally never block

[twilit flicker]

they aren't debating, just making comparisons

[spice veldt]

you're right, i shouldn't block against daemonhosts

[ornate hamlet]

i mean psyker used to just be able to block daemonhosts indefinately just because they were blocking with a non psyker melee wep and passive peril cleansed at a bugged rate, which is the only reason ppl were really doing it, they were just exploiting a broken mechanic

you shouldn't really be able to block them like that imo as a psyker

[spice veldt]

you can sort of do it with stam regen block eff on the MKV duelling sword with a +stam curio without Kinetic Deflection

[ornate hamlet]

that's what people were using before because the weapon has good block efficiency, there's no reason to use it now that the bug has been fixed imo

[spice veldt]

I think I could stand in place and block the daemonhost for a half minute

[hard oyster]

ive been blessed!

[cyan notch]

grats

[spice veldt]

though you can also just weapon swap out of the guardbreak

that's what I do now

[cyan notch]

cheat

[spice veldt]

yes

[twilit flicker]

it actually make me think that people were MORE justified in using that bug, because theres no way they would've kept that in.

[spice veldt]

but i hate daemonhosts

[ornate hamlet]

i just avoid em

[spice veldt]

i can't avoid bad teammates

well

i actually can now

soloooo

[ornate hamlet]

when ppl disturb them, i can do a shitload of dps to them with axe, or decent dps with purg

but i just avoid them

if your team was sticking together and someone disturbed it, they're usually not that big of a deal

can drop them fast

[spice veldt]

not during a horde

or enemies are pushing you

or the vet got targeted

[ornate hamlet]

yeah unfortunately a lot of times there's a lot more than just the boss to deal with, i always try to focus it down asap tho

cause if i don't it'll come for me next probably
(and i can't block for shit)
and dodge timing it isn't easy

[spice veldt]

i just ignore the daemonhost since there's no way we're killing them during a horde

take the loss of 2 players and survive the horde

[ornate hamlet]

well, that's one good thing about purg

you can aoe dps pretty good