psyker-class

[floral solstice]

go

what

[viral solstice]

yeah its enough to protect them against the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune

[echo turtle]

Show me a T5 where you alone can fight in a mixed horde and not just stun cancel then use a staff

actually use the thing, not just stunning and dodging to flame shit down

I’ll stop@saying it’s a garbage weapon

[restive slate]

I'm pretty sure even a BM Antax can't deal with that alone haha

[floral solstice]

LMAO

stupid condition

but sure

i'll start building my fs when i get on

[echo turtle]

the condition is using the weapon in melee

[floral solstice]

duh

[echo turtle]

any weapon can block push and dodge back

[vagrant furnace]

you think you can deal alone with a mixed horde in damn with a knife every time

what are you smoking

[echo turtle]

so, lets see the FS actually perform in the situations that matter

[floral solstice]

yet you're claiming that it's BAD and impossible to do with

[echo turtle]

dealing with a horde, and a mixed horde

[floral solstice]

repeating over and over

but sure i will

i'll get a clip

[steel flame]

Ah. I see we are on the: try to convince everyone FS sucks discussion today

[echo turtle]

where your team mates don’t just do it for you while you spam block

[floral solstice]

look guys he's spamming push-attacks with dagger therefore it has control therefore fs is bad

woohoo

[unreal dust]

The FS is my swiss army knife of awesome. I don't see the problem. >.>

[steel flame]

Neither do I

[restive slate]

Problem is the one complaining FS sucks without wanting to discuss with reason haha

[steel flame]

It can do all the things

[pine relic]

FS just need slaughter, otherwise, you will always get overwhelmed by the horde.

[floral solstice]

he thinks FS is objectively bad just because it can't do the boring-ass spam attacks that dagger does

[unreal dust]

Yeah, but I have a Purgatus staff for horde.

[echo turtle]

I can spam and kill, If you can spam@block and kill a horde thats fine

[floral solstice]

i guess everyone should play knife now

[steel flame]

I do not have issues on t5 without slaughter

[echo turtle]

I’m saying no spamming to make space to use a staff

[lethal plover]

another day of "my weapon is objectively best" circus

[pine relic]

There are many situations you have to do melee.

[floral solstice]

btw rhino out of curiosity you do know the fs push right?

[echo turtle]

i was pretty clear about that, so you gonna keep trying to put words in my mouth or fucking show me whats up?

[floral solstice]

oh i will

[unreal dust]

And 6-stack Psykinetic Wrath with Ascendant Blaze can, and will, 100% to 0% an entire horde

[floral solstice]

when i play later

[vagrant furnace]

if you deal with an horde using a melee weap you shouldnt play psyker anyway (unless you are a surge user) go play something else

[floral solstice]

but answer me, you know what fs push does right?

so if you do know

[echo turtle]

K so stop the bullshit with trying to mischaracterize what I said

[floral solstice]

what do you think stops people from pushing mixed hordes and whacking in between?

lmao

[steel flame]

That...a....huh??????

Are you insane

[echo turtle]

I wanna see horde clear qith the sword and clearing mixed hordes without the team doing it for you while you buy time

[vagrant furnace]

there are better options as a psyker than melee

litteraly staffs

[floral solstice]

oh, i can do that easily, but here's the thing

[vagrant furnace]

why would you melee

[floral solstice]

that i keep repeating

[pine relic]

I do use surge. but even with purgatus, clearing small horde with FS is much faster and elegant.

[floral solstice]

you keep saying FS is bad

[echo turtle]

DM me the link

[unreal dust]

Also the FS Push doesn't have a drop off for body-mass since its a shockwave. The Shove on top of that can even knockdown Crushers. Again. Not seeing the problem >.>

[echo turtle]

when you got it

[floral solstice]

solely because of that, in general

sure, what do i get

[echo turtle]

I already said, I will stop saying it’s garbage

if you cant get a video tonight

you gotta say it’s garbage

once a day

[unreal dust]

Hell. I can Shove a Bulwark into breaking his guard roughly 1 in 3 shoves.

[echo turtle]

for 4 days

[floral solstice]

i bet this guy will be like no no you did it wrong it should be vs 6 bulwarks and 6 crushers LUL

[restive slate]

Rhino literally got no consideration for other people's irl priorities outside the game

[echo turtle]

if you can deal with a mixed horde that has some ragers in it and some@kind of ogryn without the team bailing you out thats good enough

[floral solstice]

nah fuck your deadline, i am doing it soon but im not prioritizing it just because you're too arrogant to accept facts

[restive slate]

Altering the deal to maximize that they'll win and prove their superiority

[echo turtle]

Buddy is pushing me for stakes. I didn’t suggest stakes

[floral solstice]

in fact i should be cooking lunch rn

[steel flame]

i do plenty of melee horde clear along with my void staff in close combat. probably my most effective t5 build. this is objectectivly wrong

[echo turtle]

Don’t press me for stakes then man

[floral solstice]

instead i have to entertain this genius gamers

i said i will do it

[restive slate]

Have a good lunch Ranni

[floral solstice]

even with your bs conditions

lmao

and then you'll just find an excuse

to say it's bad

[echo turtle]

the conditions of actually using the sword?

[floral solstice]

like bro you didnt kill 6 bulwarks its bad

[worn heath]

doesn't count, the horde composition was in your favor, it needs to be THIS composition

[echo turtle]

Then fuck off lol

[floral solstice]

[echo turtle]

like this wholw time you’re misquoting me

[floral solstice]

definitely skill issue vibes

[steel flame]

screw all you. im gonna go enjoy laspistol psyker supremacy

[floral solstice]

FS USERS ARE FLOOR LORDS GUYS

CASE CLOSED

[echo turtle]

then you say you’ll show me up, then you want stakes, then You don’t want a timeframe, then it’s “you’ll say it wasnt good enough”

[pine relic]

With full-stack slaughter, you can one-shot almost any unarmoured mob, it's much more efficient than using range weapons.

[floral solstice]

lmao

[cyan portal]

Does warp flurry work on purga? It is hard to notice a difference and wondering if anyone has timed it carefully

[floral solstice]

already said so many times im doing it

still going at it

[steel flame]

it really is. you can melt shit like butter with any melee weapon when you have warp charges galore

[floral solstice]

just to be clear, you think FS can't kill mixed hordes with melee right?

before you go all pedantic on me

[echo turtle]

K, then DM me when you got it, if ur gonna keep characterizing my intentions and saying I’m gonna do xyz then Lets just block eachother and move on

[unreal dust]

judges you in Psyker ... ... that said I do need to find a good weapon for "Light's Out" Maps. Preferably one with a torch on it >.>

[echo turtle]

k@man last warning

[floral solstice]

oh i wanted to block you earlier, believe me

[echo turtle]

your gonna talk to me@like that you can fuck right off

[floral solstice]

but i will do it just to prove you wrong

[restive slate]

Trauma secondary? Haha

[floral solstice]

that slaughterer on fs can deal with mixed

even if it's not as fast other obvious horde clear weapons

[echo turtle]

K cool, dm me when you got it

[pine relic]

But if it does not have slaughter blessing I would just use the duelling sword.

[echo turtle]

dagger takes a while too

its like 1 kill on chaff per push, maybe 2 if wounded

[steel flame]

laspistol doesnt have a light. instead it has the best push in the entire game. it can kill bursters 25feet away and stop dogs. also it has a 20% crit rate with stupid high crit damage and can fuckin delete stuff like its nothing. also infernus is totally busted on it

[restive slate]

I do like the force push on laspistol

[steel flame]

if it didnt have a small delay on it it would be perfect

[unreal dust]

Hmmm

I will need to try it. Point is I still need a good primary for Light's Out nods

[pine relic]

Dont temp me

[sonic coral]

warp absorption or essence harvest on trauma?

[restive slate]

Just a bit sad that the quell for nonwarp weapons got nerfed, else it's free toughness with laspistol pushes

[steel flame]

ikr

sadge

[echo turtle]

@floral solstice if ur on twitch I’ll follow you and watch a stream / past streams if you got them. I’m busy for a while tonight but I play most evenings

[floral solstice]

the fuck is this now

i told you im getting a clip

[pine relic]

Why am I keep getting this stupid raking fire blessing

[floral solstice]

i dont even have a slaughterer fs yet so im building one LOL

sit quietly and wait there my dear

now im cooking lunch late because of all this "fs is bad" fiasco

feels like reddit moment

[unreal dust]

squints The push on this pistol doesn't even make Crushers flinch.

... that said the push does have an obscene range...

10m? That's respectable

[steel flame]

its got the same force as a regular push

so of course it wont make crushers fall

but its got a 25ft range XP

[unreal dust]

10m is more like 30ft bruv

[restive slate]

I hope they give Psyker force push on all weapons with push special

[steel flame]

i know.

its not 10m though XP

20-25 feet

😛

can i piss you off enough with measurements

[unreal dust]

Psykhanium waypoint marker says 10m >.>

[steel flame]

ph whatever

you and your proof

[unreal dust]

Maybe 11

[restive slate]

I think we're all kinda tuckered out with arguments here for a while hahaha

[steel flame]

DONT YOU WAVE YOUR PROOF IN MY FACE AND THINK IT PROVES ANYTHING

[pine relic]

Is it damnation viable though, i have never seen anyone using it

[steel flame]

i played with it all day yesterday

it was alot of fun

[restive slate]

Also funny poxwalker stuck mid air

Music starts

"You're probably wondering how I got here..."

[unreal dust]

I will say it has a very respectable magazine size too

[echo turtle]

Theres some combos you can do as a vet to get the damage up, for a psyker I don’t think it’s the best gun

[steel flame]

aim is required so i wont be using it all the time. sometimes i can only manage ungabunga fire

[echo turtle]

vet has + ads crit + damage + weakspot it can stack in addition to the naturally higher crit

[steel flame]

with lacerations its really good. it has no swap animation so you can use the full duration of laceration to deal damage

it can kill reapers in a few shots on t5

[pine relic]

Ok, I'm gonna try it

[restive slate]

Oh yea cerebral lacerations got buffed, right?

[steel flame]

yessir

[restive slate]

Fascinating...

[unreal dust]

From 15 to 25%

[steel flame]

this is what ive been using

[unreal dust]

I am tempted to... if only so we can hard burn monstrosities

[restive slate]

Gun Psyker build time

[steel flame]

it takes a bit to get used to

i started out with a few matches in heresy, it went really well

then i did like 5 in damnation and it went really well

[restive slate]

Imagine if the Infernus stacks for Psyker counts as soulblaze

[steel flame]

i wish XP

would be dope though

[restive slate]

What do you recommend for melee and curios?

[steel flame]

id do some more tonight, but im so tired i cant aim straight

im still workshopping everything. so i was using deflector FS as my melee and my default curios, a wound and some stamina

[echo turtle]

something you can handle hordes with, and I reccomend a mix of health and T,

when I ran gunker I found kinetic barrage paired with the aura and flayer was very nice

ymmv

warp essence havest

[restive slate]

Aite got it, might try with duelling sword

[cyan notch]

idk chainsword push attack is worse and special doesnt stagger consistently plus doesnt have deflector utility

[steel flame]

its more high effort than some other psyker builds

but its still effective

[pine relic]

My teammates are gonna hate me

[restive slate]

Psyker gameplay has always been high effort haha

[spice veldt]

FS light attack has pretty ass hordeclear even with max slaughter stacks

but heavies are pretty decent at max slaughterer stacks

[steel flame]

ive got a pistol with ghost and 10% toughness on headshot kill

and i felt pretty tanky as long as i was doin headshots

[unreal dust]

Its important to remember one of the main stats on FS

[spice veldt]

i know

[unreal dust]

"First Target"

[spice veldt]

i'm an advocate of FS being a single target weapon

but i'm talking about a situation where you use it for hordeclear

[floral solstice]

well it's definitely not the best horde clear melee psyker has

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's certainly workable though at max slaughterer stacks

[floral solstice]

still dont think it's a bad weapon like mr dumbo said earlier

[unreal dust]

Its horde CLEAR isn't great. But its horde MANAGEMENT is great.

[viral solstice]

its jank but people overrate the horde clear of host other weapons badly

most

[steel flame]

i prefer management over clear in some cases

teamates still exist

[floral solstice]

pretty much yeah, the block and push are good

[plucky perch]

does cerebral lacerator still not count brain bursts as warp damage?

[floral solstice]

yeah

oh wait it counts

misread

[plucky perch]

might make it a solid pick if your brain bursting often thhen i think with 4 -6 warp charges and that it can take an entire brain burst off a crushr kill

[floral solstice]

bb does count, sorry i just misread

[plucky perch]

aahh they fixed that

gotcha

[floral solstice]

it's been like that before afaik

[plucky perch]

nah was bugged a number of things including staff primaries didnt count as warp sources for it

[hexed sage]

What blessings are good for the MK V axe?

[plucky perch]

the one that kills people good

though fr i think alot of people love brutal momentum on the axes because it allows a bit of horde clear and control.. and the one for charged heavies and repeated strikes increasing power

[pine relic]

It's sad I don't have stamina regen curios for my psyker

[plucky perch]

i have a.. cant remember the name, but increased poewer per strike blessing on my antax is a noticable decrease in time to kill for some of the beefier targets

i dont KNOW if its the best though

[safe crystal]

BB still counts as non-warp damage for lacerations, but on damnation, crushers are left with 63 hp after 2 brain bursts, reapers with 434. Technically still needs 3, but they're so low at that point a light breeze will kill them

[plucky perch]

ahhh i THOUGH it would take a brain bust off my mistake ty @safe crystal

though that combined with kinnetic barrage i wonder how fast a psyker could burn through a monster

[steel flame]

not fast

it has burst potential but not that much burst potentian

maybe if you get a crit bb

but thats not something to rely on

really wish we had monsters in the shooting range

[wet jacinth]

Get the flayer double BB procs kekw

[steel flame]

ikr

[safe crystal]

The damage on lacerations + 6 stacks is 1364, plogryn has 32000 hp on damnation. It would speed it up, but would still take a while

[wet jacinth]

It's funny flayer can trigger on BBs itself

[neat summit]

Luckily in most cases there’s other people shooting at the crushers too, so 1-2 BB is plenty

Unless you’re playing with all ogryns or zealots

Which has its downsides when it comes to carapace management

[plucky perch]

i tend to rely on kinetic barrage brain bursts since staff primaries are iffy for consistent damage the secondaries charge is almost as long as brain burst and am squishy little psychic boy i dont wanna get in melle range

[neat summit]

Kinetic Barrage is my bae for sure.

[steel flame]

i kinda prefer playing with zealots when i do laspistol psyker. veterans feel entitled to any and all ammo even when they only need 10. so trying to find las ammo with 2 veterens is pure pain

[plucky perch]

for monsters that is

[neat summit]

Especially when they game thinks it’s funny to dump 6 gunners in a room.

[plucky perch]

@steel flame 100% agree hence why i rarely gunpsyker SO many vets so many times they take ammo while im at red and theyre near full

[neat summit]

Hahaha that’s me as veteran.
“I have the plasma, I get all the ammo”

[pine relic]

If there are no veterans in my team I would use Psykinetic aura instead of lacerations

[neat summit]

“Now watch me whiff this headshot”

[steel flame]

hot take here. but i prefer playing games without a veteren in it period XP

[pine relic]

Just in case six gunners show up

[neat summit]

I actually really like psykinetic aura

[unreal dust]

I meaaaaan. So many vets like to play power sword only it does get frustrating >.>

[plucky perch]

i wouldnt quite agree with that i have ran into a good number of solid minded team oriented vets, theyre just..kinda rare

[steel flame]

they play powersword only and still find time to take all the ammo

[neat summit]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-horus-heresy-power-sword-gif-25203006

Because power swords are the shit

[plucky perch]

i want a force sword whose empower is similar for power sword

[neat summit]

That’d be sick

[steel flame]

there is another one in the code

there is still hope

[plucky perch]

theyres lore of force weapons cleaving material as effeciently as a powerfull weapon

[steel flame]

imagine

a powersword

[plucky perch]

like literarly cleaving into tank armour

[neat summit]

My hopium is endless

[steel flame]

with deflector

[plucky perch]

*as effectively as a power weapon...not powerfull

[neat summit]

Limitless, one would say

[plucky perch]

i want a warp melle that can TRUELY take advantage of warp absorption like a power weapon honestly not just to give us a super solid crowd option

maybe a toggle where every swing costs x% of peril

or a straight up copy of press x swing four times then press x again

[unreal dust]

I really wish there was a Boss shield in the Psykhanium so I could test weapons on it...

[plucky perch]

i THINK it has the same proproties as flak armour witht he caviate of reduced range damage

[unreal dust]

It blocks bleeds. I want to know if it blocks soulblaze stacks

[plucky perch]

it blocks them

but it doesnt block them on its self

[neat summit]

That

[plucky perch]

soul blaze 100% works on the shield

just no visual

[neat summit]

Soulblaze stacks up really good. Keep the puffs going as much as possible and he will burn to death

[plucky perch]

has run into the boss with a purugut and seen the stead tick damage while team mates were dealing with horde or getting beat by specials

[neat summit]

Yep

[plucky perch]

its actualy pretty solid

even with the reduced range damage modifier

[neat summit]

Purg is one of my favorites especially for bosses and monsters

[plucky perch]

though surge also does good damage to his shield too

[neat summit]

Ugh I love surge so much

[plucky perch]

infact i think every psyker secondary charge does decent damage to the captains refractor field

[neat summit]

Worp

[plucky perch]

except maybe void strike? i havent tested that opne

[viral solstice]

it ok

[plucky perch]

though empowered force sword heavies straight up take out massive chunks of the refractor field pool

but then you gota get in melle distance... and ive been in groups where even the ogryn is daka dakaing at a distance

[neat summit]

My favorite

Purg staff just barely doesn’t have enough range in open areas. You can get chewed up at range real quick even with good cover hopping

Surge staff just zippity zaps

[plucky perch]

true i hate that even with a max damage and critical bonus roll it can take 3 casts on unarmoured enemies, i get balancing its great anti eleite damage veruses hordes but cmon i wanna palpatine the squishies too

[neat summit]

I think if purg staff more reliably applied the burning animation to stagger enemies at range it’d be better.

It’s finicky about how it likes to apply it

[plucky perch]

or could compete with a zealouts flamers range

[neat summit]

I’d accept either

I dislike giving a puff of flames to hit 4/5 dudes with 2 of them not registering that they’re on fire so you’re taking shots from 3 when it should be 0 if it applied properly.

[plucky perch]

yeah the stagger is inconsistent

[neat summit]

It really bugs me

Half is on fire and realized it
The other half is on fire but doesn’t care

And the 5th man somehow didn’t get touched by flames even though he’s right with all of them

[unreal dust]

Take Terrifying Barrage

Fixes that problem

[idle shuttle]

is first target... important?

[neat summit]

I don’t remember the axe cleaving much anyway even in animation but I’m not expert

[long wharf]

yes, first target affects all the damage you do

whether you hit only one enemy or multiple

[echo turtle]

yeah its important

[echo turtle]

FS doesn't have a push attack, it just pushes a dude over. Which is better than the chainsword. Deflector is over rated. Sweeping strikes + shred or something makes the chainsword performance real good in comparison.

[idle shuttle]

guess il be upgrading this one

and hope its second perk isnt trash

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty + slaughterer is pretty good for FS

[cyan notch]

sure but they both have pros and cons its not as clear cut as "chainsword is objectively better than fs"

[floral solstice]

BRO DONT

blood

your brain cells, i care for them

dont lose them

dont entertain him even further

[cyan notch]

[neat summit]

Entertain ME further

[floral solstice]

starts stripping

[cyan notch]

?

least horny ogryn

[floral solstice]

please

[floral solstice]

show them your alt names

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-23864982

[neat summit]

My alt name is Dirkoppotomus

Dirk for short

[spice veldt]

crits don't seem to boost cleave damage by that much, but it pushes the FS cleave damage at max t3 slaughterer stacks over the threshold to kill poxwalkers in 4 2nd-heavy cleave hits

[idle shuttle]

FS is not good

no quell

[echo turtle]

It depends what you value. DPS and attack animations CS wins out. Better/faster heavies, more cleave.

It loses deflector but gains a lot elsewhere.

[spice veldt]

they nerfed passive quelling for non-force weapons so passive quelling isn't a talking point anymore

[idle shuttle]

im using antax and its way more than FS

passive quell

"feels like it"

[echo turtle]

Passive quell should be the same, but you aren't interrupting it with blocking or the push shove that generates peril

[spice veldt]

blocking only generates peril on kinetic deflection

that's not FS specific

I don't personally use the push-shove a lot

unless I want a crusher to fuck off when I'm meleeing a small horde

i would assume that all non-force weapons have the same passive quell speed
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1190df3/passive_peril_quell_comparison/

here's a comparison by commisartyr between a chainsword and forcesword

I also don't use kinetic deflection and just take a +3 stam curio instead, which is good enough until I join an assassination mission and get overheaded while i'm guardbroken

[idle shuttle]

this is horrible news

[rose lily]

which chain sword type is the best?

[rose lily]

i switch to my staff (over 70% quell) to quell for few seconds, it's way more effective

[floral solstice]

there's only one, unless you also consider eviscerator on zealot

[rose lily]

i do, yeah eviscerator and chain sword
which one is better?

[wet jacinth]

Chain axe

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[floral solstice]

i prefer evisc but im a bit biased there

more consistent with locking, sweep attacks, easier to headshot stuff compared to cadian chain

can't say much about 1h chain because im not into it but ive seen a few praise it and actually say it's better

[wet jacinth]

Evis is nice

Except

I have to be a Shouty

And even then. I personally prefer the good ol Devil's Claw

But a normal chainsword would also do

[forest coral]

I want 2h axe

Then it can really be a skulls for the golden throne energy

[spice veldt]

i've always just actively quelling since I've run the force sword as my melee 99% of the playtime that I've been psyker, so the change didn't personally affect me

i still don't find it particularly impactful since the staff is usually the weapon that makes an impact during rough situations anyways, so you're going to be actively quelling to get more usage out of your staff

[restive slate]

Emperor approved???

[forest coral]

Blood for the emperor after all

[restive slate]

Khorne be feeling mighty jealous about now

[cyan notch]

chainsword special is much worse and push attack is worse

[idle shuttle]

damn im the last antaxer it seems

I do use the push block on it

[rocky cedar]

Chainsword, Evic, and Chaxe all have good arguments for them TBH. Gonna be fairly down to preference

Just don't bother with Chaxe without a good slaughterer blessing minimum

Slaughterer + Thrust and it's getting pretty juicy

[cold geode]

alas, there is another

[feral crater]

Lol. Way more people use Antax than you think. It's just that we are being overrun by zealot chat so you see their pointless dribble

[idle shuttle]

damn thats a nice one

I just ripped a decimator off some trash sir milkers had

gonna put it on a BM antax

[cold geode]

nice 😄

[rotund marsh]

can someone recommend a nice build for damnation with Antax? been playing FS with surge or purgatus but looking to branch out a bit 🙂

[fierce sinew]

121112 purge

[rotund marsh]

ty ❤️

what's the most important stat modifiers on an antax?

[floral solstice]

damage first target pen

[rotund marsh]

thank you very much

[floral solstice]

np bruh

[steel flame]

ive woken from my nap. time to continue spreading my laspistol propoganda to the unwilling masses

[forest coral]

It’s a pistol and it’s laser

Perfect for all occasions

Paper weight

Flash light

Door stopper

For all ages 2+

[steel flame]

on reapers with laceration i can do almost 3000 dps

with a pistol

[forest coral]

With what stat perk, blessings and warp stacks tho

[steel flame]

4 stacks and laceration

no damage perks affecting reaper damage

no blessings that affect reaper damage

lots of crits

[floral solstice]

that's cool if you're making it work and you like it

just dont gatekeep/spread misinformation like some dumbo here earlier

[steel flame]

wdym?

[floral solstice]

just some stupid discussion here earlier

dont worry you dont have anything to do with it

[forest coral]

As long as you can back up what you’ve said

[floral solstice]

well that too

[forest coral]

I’ve yet to see a single laspistol in use that made me go “wow that’s amazing”

[floral solstice]

they'll most likely just make a subclass for guns

[forest coral]

Hopefully

[floral solstice]

instead of reworking some stuff on our current feats

[forest coral]

Unlock rest of weapon sets for psyker

And have synergy

[floral solstice]

then again ogryn got a new feat, so there's some hope lol

[steel flame]

sadly my recording software crashes my computer rn

[floral solstice]

delete darktide, that might fix it

jk

[rotund marsh]

what to reroll here?

[floral solstice]

if you like barrage then you can reroll nexus to a higher tier

also wtf why u guys so lucky with gear

[rotund marsh]

this was the only time I was lucky 😛

I'm not sure what I think about Terrifying barrage but it sounds like it would be kind of okey

[floral solstice]

try it out, some people say it's good

mine has focused channeling and im too lazy to rebless rn

[rotund marsh]

😄

[steel flame]

i tried to start recording with obs earlier and it literally bluescreened my computer

ive been cursed it seems

[forest coral]

Could try medal tv or shadowplay if u have it

[viral solstice]

trying to get surge

emprah gives me the most cursed psyker weapon of all time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079287944097050634/1079287955891425390/image.png

i am indeed pleased hadron

or something

[ornate hamlet]

it's a gun

[forest coral]

A new marvel awakens uwu

[viral solstice]

its a magic wand

ive actually never even bothered using a recon lasgun because theyre such a meme but why not

[forest coral]

Hadron slapping a new emperor no.1 sticker on your weapon and telling you it hits harder or something for all your life savings

[viral solstice]

ill take brain burst soulblaze

and ascendant blaze

[ornate hamlet]

over 50% of psyker's ranged weapon pool are just bad for the character, including that one.

[viral solstice]

and set ppl on double fire

negatory

nothing is bad

if the omnissiah has blessed i t

[ornate hamlet]

in t4 or t5 using that you are a hinderance to your team

[viral solstice]

kek

i only play damnation

and im way more of a hindrance than that on the regular

im sure it will be a delight

[ornate hamlet]

wanna

be

[viral solstice]

gogogo

ok lets see what colour they go

[viral solstice]

omg

its beautiful

now thats blessed

[plucky perch]

is.. that an actual mod?

[viral solstice]

its the next cosmetic tier

starting at $999.99

[plucky perch]

LOL

i just want a ui mod and health bars above enemies mod

and for chubby fis to give us a better force staff primary

[viral solstice]

also make the staff fu better

they bothered giving it almost a combo

make it sick

[plucky perch]

the special melle?

[viral solstice]

yea

its so much effort for a shitpost

[plucky perch]

yeah it should straight up be warp empowered or somehting

not just a normal bonk

[viral solstice]

i tried seeing how high i could get the damage

i hit a 200 crit on something with it

abusing a bunch of pre-nerf overflow buffs

very op

[plucky perch]

i think they only gave it that cause every other weapon in the game has a special attack

i could see such better specials

a fire ball for the purgutus

a single long range zap for the surge ect

[viral solstice]

wait

the "killing an elite with brain burst splashes soul blaze"

that procs just on hit??

[plucky perch]

on hit

but still only on eleites

[viral solstice]

hell yeah

[plucky perch]

but ONLY on the eleite

it only splashes if its a kill

[forest coral]

It’s a skill that makes u go

[viral solstice]

no it splashes

[forest coral]

But why tho

[viral solstice]

on hit

rn

[plucky perch]

ooh they fixed it then 😮 it wasnt spashing on hit for me just applying tyo primary target

but i havent tried it since right after patch though

[viral solstice]

i mean tooltip says killing

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/X5JKAA1GMUwCs/d1337oCRpLHc?invite=cr-MSw0cE8sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

but there u go it straight up is on hit

[plucky perch]

yeah patch notes mention that but that they didnt update the tool tip yet

[viral solstice]

ah

guess ill run kinetic flayer too

for random green fire

hell yeah i love it when a plan comes together

[plucky perch]

honestly i want it as a steady aoe option that applys on any mob hit, pepper an entire horde in warp fire by popping chaff when you killed the specials already, would make brain bust so much m,ore versatile

and be a fun brain bust only build

[viral solstice]

brain bust

now thats an upgrade

out of the 10 or so emperors gifts ive gotten from non li 5s tonight

all have been guns or axes

lets see if he will finally give me a staff

[plucky perch]

warp shenanigans is heresy the emporer is trying to guide you to redemption

[forest coral]

UNBELIEVABLE DAMAGE

[viral solstice]

ticks for 8

now thats what i call a soul blaze

its the damage equivalent of will smiths cigar in miami

just for the look he doesnt light it

[robust badge]

How's terrifying barrage on trauma?

[inland sand]

i fucking died man

just rewatched the whole Miami video to see what u were on about

feeling my fuckin age lol

but also I can see why he gave up on his rap career

[magic burrow]

will smith always reminded me of the early hip hop which was all about being chill and goofy instead of the edgy east vs west "i have more money/bitches than you" anger rap

[parental advisory explicit content]

[near wyvern]

Dunno, haven't tried it on Trauma but I guess it can work

I just think it's a bit redundant

[summer prairie]

Fyi mods are now publicly available so you can now have stuff like creature spawner in the grinder. Has toggleble AI

[river sand]

hey guys, what would be your ideal blessings / perks on void ?

[forest coral]

i like sustained fire+ transfer peril

perks wise I run unarmoured + flak but im not sure whats optimal

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/9a4mja

[spice veldt]

any other place that you've been downloading the mods from or is nexusmods the only place, cuz darktide mod loader has been quarantined and can't be downloaded for now

[summer prairie]

They have a discord

[spice veldt]

ooo

[cold geode]

Link?

[clear heath]

How are you liking the mods so far? Any issues?

[summer prairie]

No issues other than you can crash if you e.g. die in the grinder and don't hit the hotkey to revive/leave quickly

https://discord.gg/GFyCGNpJb8

Scoreboard mod, nexus hotkeys and creature spawner are a++

[cold geode]

It's in the instructions channel

[clear heath]

hmm, i'm debating on whether i want healthbars or if that borders a little too closely to cheating

[summer prairie]

not against their modding policy at least, but yeah it technically helps

but so did something like numeric UI for players in V2

https://streamable.com/344tk8

[gusty furnace]

oh shit

that's cool as fuck

[floral solstice]

shieldgryn cosplay

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-wizard-hagrid-afirmation-magic-magical-gif-16533730

[spice veldt]

ahhh the hotkeys for mourningstar menus is soooo good

[still hearth]

Finally

The players can fix the game

For Fatshark

[strange wigeon]

can't wait for the equivalent of armory mod so we can get proper numbers on a lot of shit in the menu

[spice veldt]

enemies are noisy in the meatgrinder now, but I can live with that

[spice veldt]

if you're hugging a crusher, he won't do an overhead or swing it seems; he'll just smack you with his left hand or kick you

[viral solstice]

yes

thats how u parry bait him

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QaUGaPgJc9Yu9/d1337NmefcST?invite=cr-MSw2RVIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

is it useful... kinda

not really

good to know how he works

[spice veldt]

i'm sure there's a situation in the next years of my lifespan where I need this information

[viral solstice]

tbh with crushers it is actually useful

because there are situations where u want one or the other

and if ur outside the range of those attacks

he will always overhead and do a few steps to get to u

whereas the mauler can actually do a fast version of his overhead slam point blank

which is troll

fuk u mauler

i should get this mod to figure out the exact timing for the block parry transition on rager double hits

im pretty sure its not consistently possible because its inside 0.1s but it would be insanely swag to do

bored of waiting out the two horizontals until u can be cool and own him

[spice veldt]

ah i forgot about those fuckin ragers

gotta learn how to deal with them without purely relying on force sword special

[viral solstice]

broadly their attacks are good vs dodges

but suck vs blocks

so if all else fails...

but specifically they have weirdness where some of their attacks - not all of the attacks where they use both weapons, because that would be consistency - have 2 separate damage instances back to back

super fast

this doesn't matter for blocking

but it REALLY matters for parry which has an icd of like 0.45s

so if u try and parry those attacks u get a riposte but also eat damage

[spice veldt]

dafuq

[viral solstice]

his standard 4 hit combo of 2 horizontal overhead whatever

the 2 horizontals are both unparriable without taking damage

but the other two (also 2-weapon attacks) are parriable

[spice veldt]

what an oddly specific behavior

i guess they really didn't want catachans countering ragers?

[viral solstice]

now one of the interesting things about parry is that u can go from block to parry instantly

so in theory u can block tick 1 of those swings

and transition to parry before tick 2

[spice veldt]

ima test that out with the catachan to truly experience it with myself

[viral solstice]

its truly a journey

[spice veldt]

oh that's what it fucking is

that horizontal swing yeah

[viral solstice]

except

EXCEPT

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QGnZe0l4cmPgs/d1337Kvtkg03?invite=cr-MSxjdDksMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

sometimes....

my guess is that theres a spacing

[strange wigeon]

anyone already tried out the mods? How's the disable scren effects on psyker working out?

[viral solstice]

where only one of the hitboxes intersects with u

but because ive never had active monsters in da lab ive never found it

except it turns out that i actually was spacing ragers mostly like this because i didnt realise parry didnt work on those two swings until commisartyr posted examples of him being hit thru it

so its all truly fatshark.jpg

[spice veldt]

i think ragers have two combos

[viral solstice]

they do

they have several

one of them is long af

[spice veldt]

huh

[viral solstice]

they also have shit for running away

ragers are silly bois

[spice veldt]

oh damn yeah that shit is inconsistent

i thought it was gonna be like one combo having those multihit attacks

but no it seems random

so far at least

unless that was a new combo i just experienced

[viral solstice]

safest way in an actual game is to block the first 2 things they do whatever they are

then parry

less focus required

90% safe

[spice veldt]

hmm, does parry have a slight duration

[viral solstice]

yes

[spice veldt]

ah

[viral solstice]

parry lasts a while and locks out ur block

so the basic idea is u only parry when ur ending ur block sequence

because u can go block -> parry but not parry -> block

[steel flame]

I always found it strange that catachan swords had parry instead of dueling swords

[viral solstice]

theres also an icd on parry so u cant go full kung fu on a poxwalker horde

and this is another source of frustration

instead of the parry having a just frame type setup

where if u hit the parry input 0.1s before an attack u always get a parry

so in theory with good timing u can parry multiple hits

its actually a weird like 1s duration block

so it requires very little timing merely a prediction of whether or not ur being hit by a parriable move and also a prediction that ur not going to be hit twice within 0.45s

however

it does have zero startup out of weapon swap

[unreal dust]

What is the preferred method for farming T4 blessings right now?

[viral solstice]

and it is basically the best way of stunting on random mobs

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/RCAhBGa0KsiQz/d13370udheBr?invite=cr-MSxSU3osMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

ive used the devil claw for like 200 hours and my conclusion is its really shit

but i love it

there are a few legitimate uses for the parry outside memes and rager 1v1s

[spice veldt]

styling on them haters

[viral solstice]

the first is that parry lets u carry on doing eg reloading or shooting longer than u could usually

because u can quickswap parry instantly

so u can be a little bit riskier with those kinds of things

the second is that parry is 100% safe vs a bunch of enemy attacks and always superior to blocking if u know they are doing them, or ur dealing with 2-3 normie mobs

also u cant parry out of the heavies but u can always interrupt lights into a parry

so if u wanna be a cool dude u can spam lights and fish for parries

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QaH1ID2Gbao0T/d1337AJ4ceJ8?invite=cr-MSxYbEUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

this is what i mean about how fast it comes out

so if u have a devil claw u can snatch back half a second here or there if u want

[spice veldt]

whew

[viral solstice]

if u add all this shit together does it make the devil claw good

no

[floral solstice]

yeah i used to run claw sword on my psyker too before i got a brumo antax

[viral solstice]

but u know

its one of the swords of all time

[floral solstice]

pretty decent enough for hordes and weaker elites but definitely could use buffs

[viral solstice]

its like a heavy sword with worse lights and no headtaker

[still hearth]

Claw, the weaker Heavy Sword

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

hmm, rager combos are indeed undodgeable

[floral solstice]

ive been asking for a long time

[still hearth]

There's basically no reason to use it on Zealot

[spice veldt]

but their non-combo attacks are dodgeable

[floral solstice]

hs on psyker when

[viral solstice]

yea they have the ignore dodge tag on some of that

and ridiculous reach too

so its actually unironically useful to learn the parry setups because it does let u farm them

[still hearth]

Simply be a Zealot

[viral solstice]

plus u look cool

[still hearth]

Don't they have attacks that you can't parry too though

[viral solstice]

well i mean what kind of a weakling hasnt specifically started 3bot games to learn the rager attack patterns

exactly

[spice veldt]

what nerd would do that with such clear and explained mechanics

[floral solstice]

what nerd plays dt

[viral solstice]

see now i got the best axe in the world so im switching to a different way of life

i was debating putting 10% melee weak spot damage on instead of flak

simply as a statement of intent

true rashad fans ™️ know

its such a shitpost of a weapon

i love it

[spice veldt]

best headshot weapon

finesse stat :)

[viral solstice]

have u looked at the finesse stat on rashad

[spice veldt]

no

[spice veldt]

is it less than 1

[viral solstice]

its actually inspirational

[spice veldt]

yup

[viral solstice]

thank u for 0.59x crit and weakspot power

also the special attack claims it does "heavy damage" vs armoured enemies

translation: 90 damage to carapace

hell yea

[spice veldt]

wooo

thank god the weapon can't hit headshots

:)

[still hearth]

Wrong.

You aren't good enough at the game if you don't hit weakspots.

Smh.

[viral solstice]

actually the special on it

does stagger crushers

if u overhead into special

[spice veldt]

yeah combat axe special is pretty nice

[viral solstice]

it layers the staggers

and they get the guard break stagger

broken rashad techmology

keep it secret

[spice veldt]

can even stagger ragers out of their combos

true bully weapon

[viral solstice]

brutal momentum 4 rashad requiring pinpoint aim to unlock its potential

for true doom murderheads only

are u powerful enough to get a headshot on a poxwalker

apparently... i am not

[still hearth]

Just look up into the sky

And swing wildly.

[viral solstice]

50% of the time

it works every time

i was debating headtaker vs decimator

then i stopped pretending if i was going fo rheadshots i wouldnt sometimes miss at random

[summer prairie]

Jump attacks

[viral solstice]

u know what weapon really needs a jump attack

the thunder hamer

charged heavies from a jump do a ground pound

[spice veldt]

should add crits while jumping like minecraft

jumping meta

turns out that the inconsistency that i feel from dodging normal enemies is just because of their many attacks and wildly different timings from their startup anim to their actual swing

just that i've never noticed cuz i usually dodge away from them

if you spawn a bunch of poxbursters into a wall such that they are stuck and clumped up together, you can boost yourself to the top of the psykanium

[forest coral]

h e r e s y

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/2zjhkc

[shy fiber]

That is heresy

[mental junco]

guys any idea how to avoid this one?

after the first scan location

before the med station

in transit hub

the right corner is a no pass (or only allow one to pass

the left seems even worse in term of distance to DH

[viral solstice]

stab her in the nutsack

no mercy

[spice veldt]

at the very worst, daemonhosts have a timer before they're aggroed

[summer prairie]

wait for a poxburster to spawn and rocket over

[spice veldt]

they shake a lot when they get alarmed

lmao

[viral solstice]

ye especially if u dont wake them up at all

u can just tippy toes past

[spice veldt]

if the daemonhost gets alerted, your team can go one-by-one

[feral crater]

waitasec....

[mental junco]

but we got two bot... and u know bot are...

[feral crater]

That definitely looks like heresy. KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!

XD

Let the bots aggro it and die. It only kills 2

[mental junco]

yeah, sadly the second one aimed my friend

[viral solstice]

i discovered the recon lasgun fires so fast it will instantly aggro a daemonhost

if u shoot a short burst near her

[shy fiber]

Wild

[viral solstice]

well in this case into her

[spice veldt]

best weapon

[viral solstice]

but it was at long range spraying into a crowd and literally 0.5s firing took her from not alert to coming for that booty

[mental junco]

suppression will aggro DH

[viral solstice]

i told my team to flame me

but they refused

[mental junco]

and ur torch

[spice veldt]

oh this was in an actual game? lol

[viral solstice]

i like to keep it interestin

[spice veldt]

seems that poxbursters will consistently enter their "explode until they get back up" state if they are staggered by two different sources of stagger (push and push-attack in this case)

https://streamable.com/vxi44m

also works if you staff bonk into a push from your melee quickly after
https://streamable.com/db9vug

[forest coral]

also works with surge

[viral solstice]

yeah the endless poxwalker falling over surge stun

and im always just like

IS IT SAFE

IS IT SAFE

BRO U GONNA BLOW UP STOP FUCKIN FLOPPIN

[forest coral]

they will always stand up and look at you awkwardlt

[unreal dust]

Yeaaaah.... its frustrating when you surge stun it forever and nobody kills it

[forest coral]

and then

[spice veldt]

you guys should spawn a bunch of mutants; it'll be real fun i promise

[floral solstice]

if you time surge while the burster is armed it will blow up on its own when it gets up, provided no one staggers it again while it's getting up

[rocky cedar]

Wait creature spawner is available now?

[spice veldt]

yeye mods are available now

[rocky cedar]

Oh shit

I gotta get on that

[spice veldt]

here's a message with the invite to the modding discord

#psyker-class message

since one of the mods needed for everything to work is quarantined on nexusmods (can't be downloaded), so it'll have to be downloaded there

[unreal dust]

huh

[strange wigeon]

I'm at work, wanna see the disabled screen effects so bad right now, favorite mod in VT2 😦

anyone tried it?

[floral solstice]

if i had the mod that spawns bursters i can show it

sadly i dont have a clip rn

but one of jsat's true duo vids has it

[spice veldt]

i've downloaded it but turned it off for now; something to be warned is that when you initially install it, it has EVERY screen effect disabled which may or may not be a good thing. I'd turn everything back on and then flip the switch on the specific effects that you don't like

[floral solstice]

ngl im kinda worried about mods rn because im a dumbass with mods

i remember wrecking my skyrim playthroughs back then lmao

[strange wigeon]

thanks! I think I'll disable 95% of them though, I can't remember a single screen effect I ever liked in VT2 and ever single one of them except DH frost in DT are making the game look bad

[floral solstice]

here you go, timeframe is around 15:46, he zaps it while it's armed and never looks back because it blows on its own https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK6lHrOOfSk

kind of a niche when your team usually just shoots it tbh but if no one else is available to deal with it/burster spawns on a nearby door then the delayed explosion gives you enough time to move away

[unreal dust]

huh

It takes a long time to die, but it definitely does

[floral solstice]

yeah

i only do it when whole team is occupied with something else

[spice veldt]

after spawning a bunch of mutants, it seems that the worst mistake that you really can do with dodging is dodging diagonally instead of sideways

[summer prairie]

can you dodge them with any weapon or do you need to hit some dodge distance breakpoint

[spice veldt]

lemme look for a FS with doodoo mobility

even with a 17% mobility FS at -9.95% dodge distance, it seems fine to dodge mutants; no idea if it affects how easy or hard to do it though. video is still uploading

[hazy cairn]

Hi, can anyone help my with few penances?
-Cliffhanger
-malleus monstrum
-going out with a bang
-pick n mix
🥲 🥹

[restive slate]

Big question fellow siblings, what kind of anim cancel is this on Force Sword?
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxQCbqjWd3lfUmC1lj7EG5_A7ogS2hmY2A

[restive slate]

Funnily enough I got Cliffhanger by random, was using Trauma Staff and just spamming a spawn door. Seems I "knocked" some enemies out of bounds that way and it counted haha

[spice veldt]

seems like they're just spamming the 1st light by swapping to another weapon back to their melee

[restive slate]

That sounds... tiring, bet its a macro

[unreal dust]

Cliffhanger isn't hard. There's even a narrow bridge dedicated to it at the start of a map. Malleus, just ask your team at the start. I had a macro for it. They were all on board once they knew. Going out with a bang is mostly luck. I still don't have PnM

[spice veldt]

i have my ranged weapon on 'Q' and my melee on 'E'; it's manually doable if you have your keybinds set up on two different keys

[restive slate]

Hmmmm, now I'm interested to try...

[spice veldt]

i like my keybinds set up that way for being able to quickly swap to one weapon and another, although you give up moving sideways in that particular direction

but it allows for anim cancelling

here's a video of me attempting to dodge a few mutants with a FS with -9.95% dodge distance
https://streamable.com/mcjfc5

[random wolf]

Random, but nice Zudah display picture.

[spice veldt]

here's another video of me attempting to dodge mutants with an MK5 DS with 80% mob and 80% def
https://streamable.com/nclhe7

[restive slate]

Its an OC design but yes, with the Zudah as base, thank you for the recognition

[random wolf]

Yeah a moment later I was like "wait the Zudah doesn't have heat pipes"

[random wolf]

Ironically I got Cliffhanger with Surge

They got shocked while vaulting off the parked train before the ledge on the assassination mission.

And that... counted somehow.

[near wyvern]

Not actually a bad idea to macro and spam the first light of FS, it's the best horizontal swing it has

But obviously it's a bit cheesy that you have to rely on a macro

[spice veldt]

FS lights are actually kinda poopoo, even at max slaughterer stacks, but the heavies are pretty good
#psyker-class message

here's are the damage numbers with a 2nd heavy critical hit (from Bloodthirsty) + max slaughterer stacks
#psyker-class message

[unreal dust]

Is that really important when you can turn into a blender with a macro?

[spice veldt]

that's true

all that's missing is another macro for spinning around

[unreal dust]

It slices. It dices. It also makes Chili and French Fries

[random wolf]

I usually go light > Heavy for groups with FS, give it a split second to reset and do it repeatedly

It works well enough

[spice veldt]

you can also block cancel to reset your attack chain back to the 1st light/heavy

that's faster than letting your chain reset naturally

[random wolf]

Not by much for FS personally.

It's surprisingly short.

[steel flame]

That's what she said

UGH

the modloader is still quarentined by nexus

PAIN

[spice veldt]

they uploaded the modloader onto the darktide modding server

the invite link is here
#psyker-class message

the mod loader file is at the bottom of the #instructions channel

get the creature spawner, and I recommend spawning a million mutants, snipers, and poxbursters

make sure to set up the keybinds for healing and reviving yourself before doing anything kooky

exploding too many bursters at once will crash your game *pikachu face*

[solar cloak]

what are ideal perks

for purge staff

[ornate hamlet]

focused channeling and warp nexus are good for extra burn

terrifying barrage is cool too, but burning enemies already get staggered anyways

[empty onyx]

I was going to ask the same. What should I replace the Warp Flurry & Free perk with?

[summer prairie]

higher tier flurry

[empty onyx]

Is it that useful?

[safe crystal]

Flurry doesnt work on purgatus,afaik

[summer prairie]

seemed to work fine last I tried, maybe even getting the full effect since the patch

[leaden thunder]

in theory it's good anyway

so if/when it gets fixed it'll be a good option to just have

if it isn't already

[celest hedge]

I thought flurry did work on flame staff, I only charge it for half a second most of the time and I felt like I noticed a difference

[cyan notch]

doesnt work for me

[safe crystal]

I concede my knowledge on this is at least 2 months old, it didnt work back then, and i havent felt like i've needed it anyway

[celest hedge]

Warp nexus on a flame staff sounds rad as hell and you got a maxed out version too

[cyan notch]

ive recorded clips where i felt it was faster but going frame by frame from the start of peril increase to max charge its always been 1.4s for me

[summer prairie]

Are you holding rmb for the whole duration

[near wyvern]

Flurry currently works on void and trauma, surge and purge are bugged

[summer prairie]

the bar was moving considerably faster for me when I tested it

[celest hedge]

I assume terrifying barrage is an AOE around you which sounds nice in big hordes/open areas with a lot of areas to approach. I’m dumb and don’t pay attention so I don’t know if flames can suppress enemies that aren’t trash mobs decent well, so that might be good for specials in hordes

[summer prairie]

but I didn't spend much time on it, could be wrong

[cyan notch]

it seemed that way for me too but it turns out for me it was charging during the recovery frames of the previous attack sometimes

[summer prairie]

maybe the same issue as surge then

[cyan notch]

nah not as severe and it isnt super consistent i think

[summer prairie]

the bar didn't get stuck though

[idle bay]

Mods are in

[empty onyx]

What what other Perk do you think I should aim for? Haven't really played Purgatus yet.

[exotic turtle]

Hello new to psyker, do people usually go for toughness or health curios? And what toughness feat should I go for if I’m gunna be running surge staff?

[celest hedge]

I don’t think surge lands any killing blows as much as it makes any enemy easy to kill for your teammates so I don’t think the warp kills one’s is good, and you’d need communion to get value from toughness on warp charge and rely on teammates a lot there, so I imagine the best option is toughness on peril venting

That’s a straightforward and general one

[exotic turtle]

Thanks

[sonic coral]

this is my surge feat loadout

realistically I should probably be using 2.2 though

[summer prairie]

are you just manually BBing targets for toughness

[sonic coral]

I usually don't need to, but occasionally

[summer prairie]

your only source of toughness is 5-3 proccing every 15s

[sonic coral]

Correct

[still hearth]

EH does seem very weak with that set-up.

[sonic coral]

I also play exclusively damnation

[still hearth]

Like a 10% chance to maybe get a charge, or using ult to BB

[summer prairie]

when you are running 1-3 you get nearly as much toughness immediately when you ult anyway

[sonic coral]

Passively the solo proccing works fairly well at keeping me topped up, F followed by BBs is my "oh shit" button

3.2 is really underrated IME

[summer prairie]

almost everyone runs 3-2 now, especially with non-purg setups

[still hearth]

I always run 3.2

[sonic coral]

ah

[still hearth]

Even on Purge

[leaden thunder]

tbh especially on purge(3-2 is the cdr one right?)

[still hearth]

I want to run 3.3 though but 3.2 is too nice.

Yeah

3.2 is CDR.

Shout down a mixed horde, get ult back and full stacks back.

[leaden thunder]

yeah i'd run it more for purge then the other staves

[still hearth]

I like the barrage CDR too

[leaden thunder]

but I am not the gold standard psyker

[sonic coral]

Maybe I'll give 1.3 another go but I've been lukewarm on it with every build I've used it with

[summer prairie]

barrage cdr is better synergy since you are free to ult whenever, but yeah I wouldn't run 3-1 with purg either

[still hearth]

Ayy

I just realized

That with 6 stacks

Your death explosion

Hits breakpoints on shotgunners

[vestal rose]

huge

[manic needle]

The +wound trinket guy was right all along

[spice veldt]

oh shit warp charges increases perils of warp dmg?

[glad tulip]

i'll just leave this here

for memes

[idle bay]

Yay! Mods are working!

Now full testing of stuff with creature spawner in Grinder 🙂

[idle bay]

Keep this item for memes 🙂

[leaden thunder]

I wish I had a 1% burn and cloud radius flamer on my zealot

aka a balance flamer

[maiden wolf]

I'm more a fan of focused channeling

[dense panther]

Should I just scrap this staff or can it be salvaged?

[leaden thunder]

replace rn and gun with warp nexus and it's fine

[summer prairie]

it's not great but doesn't matter much

and reblessing is cheap

[empty onyx]

I got 10% against Groaners and Poxwalkers on my Flame staff. What do you reckon should the other perk be?

[dense panther]

You're everywhere! thank you for your help ❤️

[strange wigeon]

just tried playing without the peril visuals and sound, incredible

no pointless visual clutter, no constant screaming if our chain BBs at high peril

[leaden thunder]

am I wierd becuase I like those effects

but I also don't play psyker as much as the other classes

so it hasn't had as much of a chance to bother me

[strange wigeon]

I always hate screen vignettes and such, in VT2 the "Neuter ult effects" ehich also let you disable other screen stuff honestly changed the game for me

stuff like the vignettes is put in to make it more "immersive" but for me it has the complete opposite effect

[leaden thunder]

in vt2 I could 100% see getting annoyed by like the Warrior priest ult effect

that one is super intrusive

[strange wigeon]

like blood splatter on screen just takes me out of the experience

[leaden thunder]

I also feel that

I want the bloodsplatter

but I want to see

and there isn't like a lesser version of it

[idle bay]

Quick test:
Heresy
10 dreg shootersvs FS with Deflector + KInetic Deflection = 13 Stamina + 53% Block Effeciency

Result - Block lasted for roughly 35 seconds.
Now worth it. Can upload video but it's 82. mb

[cyan notch]

ok those arent gunners tho

try actual gunners

[idle bay]

I mean shooters.

Gimme a moment for actual gunner test 🙂

[summer prairie]

well you aren't going to just sit there https://streamable.com/344tk8

[cyan notch]

yea u can ult for peril reduction too

[idle bay]

Thank you!

Ult just delays the inevitable 🙂 It's a cool trick but i'll betted get 1 +3 Stamina and 2 + Health curios 🙂

I was interested how long character can last under intensive fire with more or less maximised defences

[spice veldt]

I'm sure you'll regret it when you need to tank 1000 shooters

[cyan notch]

should try reapers and gunners

[idle bay]

I need only realistic situations 🙂