idk if they want to keep it somewhat realistic/lore friendly or memeable like on some arpg modifiers
#psyker-class
floral solstice
something easy to do will be some kind of barrels modifier
imagine areas littered by them especially near ledges
winter lotus
Sniper packs 👀
feral verge
oops, all bulwarks
coarse dagger
so what blessings and stuff do you guys run on force swords? any recommendations?
floral solstice
slaughterer
coarse dagger
the only good sword i have.... and i guess i fucked myself early one when i had no idea about the game at all
floral solstice
reroll crit damage
also isnt unstable power ass, idk
seems like the fs version of all or nothing
coarse dagger
yeah i guess its ass but i rarely find a good sword sadly
floral solstice
rip, well if you have ordos to burn you can try brunt's
then upgrade a bunch to blue hoping for a good bless
feral verge
my sword
coarse dagger
then upgrade a bunch to blue hoping for a good bless
yeah am trying hard
just wanted to know what blessings to look out for
feral verge
deflector is amazing
spice veldt
Slaughterer and bloodthirsty
feral verge
but it guarantees crits for 5 seconds, when you kill with the special attack
coarse dagger
i guess warp res is kinda useless on the sword?
cyan notch
wouldnt say useless but yeah you can afford to get a mid roll
coarse dagger
still hearth
If the only criteria is "how many swings do I get"
Then yeah.
But its also the same as people only considering breakpoints
feral verge
but it guarantees crits for 5 seconds, when you kill with the special attack
what's this blessing called?
still hearth
Bloodthirsty I believe.
feral verge
was thinking of farming for it
long wharf
good luck
long wharf
that's what I'm going to be doing
cyan notch
yea i want a t3 blazing spirit to roll before slapping it on
long wharf
I have a fsword ready to slap Bloodthirsty on it
spice veldt
should pair up bloodthirsty AND slaughterer together
bloodthirsty is basically a 40% damage increase for 5 seconds
long wharf
with the fsword special, however, I imagine you only get 2 special light attacks off before Bloodthirsty runs out
spice veldt
yeah; though it will refresh the duration
long wharf
well, using the fsword special repeatedly on mooks isn't an efficient use of time
long wharf
can you animation cancel the special charging animation?
long wharf
I haven't tested what can be cancelled with the fsword
but you're going to want to cancel as much as possible
spice veldt
activation can't be cancelled it seems, even if you ult in the middle
long wharf
what about blocking?
spice veldt
nope
long wharf
shame
spice veldt
nor quelling
but i think it's fast enough
I can do a light-special while surrounded by a horde and take no hits or only one
twilit flicker
i just made this
cyan notch
fluid knot
FS can roll blazing spirit.. huh
long wharf
for the love of the emperor, please test and record your test
long wharf
https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-batem...
his reaction after saying this is exactly how I feel after upgrading so many fswords myself and not getting Bloodthirsty
long wharf
exactly.
twilit flicker
sorry for the video quality, had to figure it out
long wharf
well, okay
the real test is proc'ing bloodthirsty and then special attacking one of the ogryns
and seeing how many soulblaze stacks get applied
at 4 stacks a hit, either the special is applying the same number as a single hit or is hitting stack cap instantly
twilit flicker
I believe that's right, I just need to swing three times after getting a kill with the special attack
long wharf
that's the test - which is happening with the fsword special and blazing spirit?
twilit flicker
yeah, I get a kill with the special attack to proc bloodthirsty to get 100% crit rate, then swing for auto procing of blazing spirit
long wharf
you're not understanding
kill with the special attack to proc bloodthirsty, and then special attack again to see how many soulblaze stacks the special is causing
twilit flicker
i see, it DOES go to max stacks
long wharf
in one special?
twilit flicker
yeah, the special also crits
long wharf
right
but, the test is how many times does the special crit
for some blessings, the fsword special hit is a single hit, not multiple
I wanted to see what blazing spirit did
with that confirmed, that's awesome
twilit flicker
it depends on how long bloodthirsty lasts doesnt it? it crits everything
clear heath
yes but how many hits does a force sword special count as?
is 1 special 4 hits or 1?
long wharf
that also means bloodthirsty + slaughterer ought to be a disgusting combo
clear heath
because multi hits in this game sometimes count as 1 attack
long wharf
god damn it, now I want bloodthirsty even more
clear heath
like chainsword rev doesn't count as 10 hits for on hit effects
despite it showing that many damage numbers
long wharf
it really should, though
white halo
anyone know if the surge blessing on trauma staff does double rmb explosions, or just the lmb shot?
clear heath
it really should, though
well, rev pushattack actually used to be bugged with bloodletting and maxed out the stacks instantly, but they patched that out
specifically just rev pushattack
none of the other rev attacks
long wharf
interesting
viral solstice
n
twilit flicker
auto crits for 5 to 10 seconds, all special ttacks crit, doesnt work if i change to my staff
twilit flicker
no that was guess work
clear heath
pyrrus, can you record a clip of you doing special kill on an enemy, and the using special again on a reaper?
long wharf
okay
clear heath
I just want to see how many stacks of soulblaze a single special does
long wharf
it should hit cap of 12 (blazing spirit t4 cap)
twilit flicker
yeah it does, if it crits on the special it gives max stacks
that is, if it doesnt kill whatever it was you hit
long wharf
for hitting the bigger things? I imagine situationally very useful
clear heath
crushers kinda don't take much from soulblaze anyways
long wharf
but it's a melee way to use AB
twilit flicker
yeah, it lasts 5 seconds, i didnt time it exactly, just counted on the video replay
long wharf
but bloodthirsty is the only way you can use blazing spirit reliably for AB to be worth using
on fsword
viral solstice
just spec into luck
long wharf
I already dumped Strength and Dexterity for Intelligence and Wisdom
or if we're playing Fallout, I dumped Strength and Endurance
still hearth
Shred and crit chance is 35% to crit. I'd say that's reliable enough, since Soulblaze also lasts for 8s + .75 per stack.
long wharf
it really isn't
I have a shred + blazing spirit fsword
it's not anywhere near good enough to build around
still hearth
I mean
long wharf
honestly, blazing spirit ought to be 1-2 stacks per hit, double that on crit
still hearth
Neither do I imagine crits for 5s is worth building around.
steel flame
Aight lads. After playing for the entire day with laspistols. I can safely say it's one of psykers better ranged weapons now
long wharf
Aight lads. After playing for the entire day with laspistols. I can safely say i...
you posted this to the wrong channel, try again in #veteran-class
that's where gun using psykers belong
just had a fun thought - giving a melee psyker subclass the ability to warp charge any melee weapon to have it stack soulblaze on hit
steel flame
It's fantastic with laceration since there is basically no weapon change animation. It's push is disgustingly effective now. That 20% crit rate just deletes everything. I've been using one with ghost and 10% toughness on headshot kill and I can basically do whatever the hell I want with impunity, ranged attackers be damned. Pairs great with deflector force sword, I can swap back and forth so fast I can kill stuff in the middle of a firefight and bring deflector back up without getting tagged. Weapon sway is non existent and aim is pinpoint so you can headshot your way through crowds like butter now. 11/10 I'm a gun psyker now.
proud mantle
does limbsplitter work on that playstyle where you push between each attack
long wharf
call them "milkies"
steel flame
Push breaks chain so you can keep getting bonus
long wharf
It's fantastic with laceration since there is basically no weapon change animati...
as much as I dislike the idea of using a gun with a psyker, I have to recommend that you swap for a horde-clear melee to pair with your decidedly non-horde-capable pistol
steel flame
as much as I dislike the idea of using a gun with a psyker, I have to recommend ...
I dunno. I haven't had any issues with horde clear weirdly enough. I thought I would need to as well but I can make so much space with the pistol that I can comfortably clear waves even with force sword
long wharf
how much peril does the push with the pistol cost?
clear heath
fs actually does ok with horde clear with slaughterer
steel flame
About 15
Ish
It's first one is like 15, the more you use it in a row the more it costs
gentle skiff
anybody know if block efficiency perk affects peril gained by blocking using the kinetic deflection feat?
clear heath
It's first one is like 15, the more you use it in a row the more it costs
Really? i'm using it right now and it's 10 every time
long wharf
block efficiency, max stamina, and now peril resistance (from Inner Tranquility) are all factors in peril block cost for Kinetic Deflection
gentle skiff
cool thanks
steel flame
Really? i'm using it right now and it's 10 every time
Hmmmmm
clear heath
wow i only explode if i push 2 times after reaching 100
if i spam it i can laspush 12 times
i guess it's hitting 99 as soon as i get to the 11th laspush
steel flame
I got a decent pistol from emprah gift and decided, fuck it, I'm a try gun psyker for a match then drop it back in the trash, and then I kept using it. Now I'm hooked
small sinew
what kind of blessings am I looking for on trauma?
steel flame
Really? i'm using it right now and it's 10 every time
It felt like it was scaling up while I was playing in game........KD might have been scewing my perception
spice veldt
what kind of blessings am I looking for on trauma?
warp Flurry and rending shockwave are the two big ones
rending shockwave won't benefit the trauma staff itself except against infested, but it'll help your melee and teammates
static epoch
get damage to carapace on your trauma if you use it as a can opener maybe
long wharf
I really wish trauma laid down patches of warpfire as normal operation
rending shockwave will help the trauma staff itself
brittleness is an enemy debuff, helps all attacks against that enemy
small sinew
get damage to carapace on your trauma if you use it as a can opener maybe
does trauma not ignore armor?
static epoch
brittle enables quite a lot more damage to heavily armored enemies.. and it staggers the enemy into a "free" area if you put the epicenter in the right place
long wharf
does it?
small sinew
i could've swore so
long wharf
I don't use it, can't stand the aiming
long wharf
but if it ignores armor, then you're right that trauma doesn't directly benefit from rending shockwave
small sinew
I really wish trauma laid down patches of warpfire as normal operation
this would be sick
static epoch
sure aim is jank but if you get better at it, it's very rewarding
yeah but it lasts for enough time for you to get two heavy hits in with most weapons if you're quick enough
long wharf
it's more than "jank" for me, it's downright frustrating and unintuitive
static epoch
and if you knock them down into the right area, that's cc and damage in one
long wharf
I can't stand it
long wharf
I think trauma needs to start out with a larger area, grow faster, and aiming should be exactly where you look
static epoch
hmm perhaps yeah, personally i'd just prefer a clear indicator of the epicenter
long wharf
I'd also make everything under the circle take full damage
static epoch
two variants of it would be great, if we had one for damage and one for stagger, both sidegrades off the original one
long wharf
no reason it can't be both
the defining differentiator between psyker staves and other ranged weapons is that they all do CC to some degree
no reason they can't do damage at the same time
static epoch
i suppose
steel flame
Almost forgot, another fun interaction with laspistol. You have 20% crit chance, and crits oneshot poxbursters on damnation
twilit flicker
Heres a more complete test, starting with soulblaze stacks, moves onto lighter material and finishes off with a bit of fun with the special enemies.
spice veldt
the only enemy that the trauma deals <100% damage against is infested
and another staff should be the one to deal damage
floral solstice
good lord i hope they address refining next patch
so annoying lol
is this another fatshark thing
i aimed for the chest
it's flak with melee
unyielding with gauntlet lol
floral solstice
that's weird, im comparing 2 gauntlets rn
1 has unyielding 25
other has flak 20
flak 20 deals more
kek
i dont trush that unyielding shit
well whatever im just gonna use my new one
steel flame
Fat Psyker has joined the chat
narrow jolt
looks like a good time go come back? lol
dawn orchid
Kinetic overload worth taking for a purge build at the moment?
fluid knot
Kinetic overload worth taking for a purge build at the moment?
100% yeah
Oh wait no never mind, thought you meant barrage
Barrage is best pick pretty much regardless
cold geode
Anything I can do to improve this?
spice veldt
depends, since it's gonna vary by personal preference. I'd want to replace deflector with slaughterer and change +flak to +maniac
cold geode
hmmm
cold geode
already have the blessing cataloged XD
cyan notch
Anything I can do to improve this?
dawn orchid
Barrage is best pick pretty much regardless
Wrong tier, although I would assume ascendant blaze is best for a purge build
fluid knot
Wrong tier, although I would assume ascendant blaze is best for a purge build
You'd think, but KB is a much better "Shit hits the fan" perk by a mile
That moment when you're about to leave an elevator an two crushers, two bulwarks and 6 ragers flood the thing
steel flame
I just had the best moment of realization. Reapers can't hurt me anymore. Ghost is funny on laspistol
dawn orchid
That moment when you're about to leave an elevator an two crushers, two bulwarks...
I don't think I'd have much time to charge bb in that specific scenario
And it'd only do one enemy at a time
fluid knot
Works for me, dodge still works
An odds are everyone else is gonna start swinging, so you'll have a lot of the aggro pulled off you
dawn orchid
I think if it's working for you, your team is giving you way more breathing room than the example would imply
(You can also stun all those ragers and apply stacks to everything else with purge primary
fluid knot
Its a matter of positioning, dont be in the front, let the ogg an zealot start swinging like madmen, because they will, simply stand behind them an in those few precious moments of respite before the whole lot is in the elevator you can generally deal with a lot of it without you an the team getting pulped too much
An i play pugs, so yeah, breathing room an pugs are pretty mutually exclusive 
north cradle
Copped me some new Curios, what do you think?
Gonna finally replace my +1 Wound with the locked one
dawn orchid
Hard for me to imagine being more useful with BB in that situation instead of stunning all the ragers and applying stacks. You could target one ogryn at a time, or everything in the room and stun multiple units.
rigid widget
floral solstice
almost clicked earn blessing on this instead of rebless 
spice veldt
all the force Swords that I bought from brunt's all have more than 70 warp res
what's this bullcrap
steel flame
all the force Swords that I bought from brunt's all have more than 70 warp res
I got one with 1% warp resist
cyan notch
almost clicked earn blessing on this instead of rebless <:staregryn:102208508384...
not 25 flak dismantle
floral solstice
dang ur right
cyan notch
floral solstice
hoary hearth
is 50% on warp resistance on surge good enough?
floral solstice
hmm i think so as long as quell speed is good
north cradle
Ya, Warp Resistance is no issue if Quell Speed is good. Especially on Voidstrike
fierce sinew
ornate hamlet
almost clicked earn blessing on this instead of rebless <:staregryn:102208508384...
why you posting ogryn trash in the heretic channel
ornate hamlet
why do you stink
regal jasper
pearl delta
Seems legit...
thorny crypt
any voidstrike staff build please? new to psyker
cyan notch
Seems legit...
nice good luck on upgrading
steel vapor
Morning psykers! Whats the best blessing for this thing?
summer prairie
rampage instead of shred
dawn orchid
Jesus christ can I get a single vet in my lobbies while I'm playing psyker
The lack of ranged killing power is making these incredibly painful
I can only do so much with this dinky brain blast
spice veldt
whip out da trauma staff for ranged
steel vapor
rampage seems like a good idea ye
north cradle
Jesus christ can I get a single vet in my lobbies while I'm playing psyker
I'll come with ya
lone fractal
flamer build is the easiest and most satisfying build i could run in this game. so great
north cradle
I even play Veteran correctly by prioritising shooters
rocky cedar
What can DS even hit 3 of with light attacks?
Unsure of its cleave
I'm assuming groaners and poxwalkers yes
Bruisers I'm thinking possibly not
rocky cedar
Oof
Ok if you can push attack to proc on poxwalkers that's ok
That the same for all 3 MKs?
I'm assuming II heavy sweep also hits 3 without issue?
safe sun
Just had a run with 3x purgatus psykers. I think my eyebrows are gone
ionic frost
You don't need eyebrows to purge heretics!
dawn orchid
I'll come with ya
I'm getting off for the night, don't think I'll be playing psyker again in the future anyway until another subclass comes out.
I do appreciate the offer though
steel flame
I'm getting off for the night, don't think I'll be playing psyker again in the f...
BECOME THE LASPISTOL PSYKER MY SON
plucky mantle
Hi, question, I'm newish to psyker, what are considered good perks and blessings for Purgatus?
floral solstice
Hi, question, I'm newish to psyker, what are considered good perks and blessings...
crit chance, warp nexus
sly matrix
saw a youtube dude say that now the voidstrike is better than the purgatus. Thoughts?
steel flame
any voidstrike staff build please? new to psyker
122133
rocky cedar
BECOME THE LASPISTOL PSYKER MY SON
My friend unironically runs this and honestly post buff it looks ok
rocky cedar
saw a youtube dude say that now the voidstrike is better than the purgatus. Thou...
Lol no
steel flame
saw a youtube dude say that now the voidstrike is better than the purgatus. Thou...
Ive been running it in damnation all of today and I can safely say it's one of his better ranged options now
rocky cedar
It's fine but better than Purg...
sly matrix
Ive been running it in damnation all of today and I can safely say it's one of h...
better than surge and purgatus?
steel flame
Different play styles
rocky cedar
The staffs all do fundamentally different things TBH
steel flame
On par
steel flame
Psyker has the most diverse play styles in the game
His weapons are apples and oranges
sly matrix
Ive been running it in damnation all of today and I can safely say it's one of h...
if I wanted to pick myself a voidstrike, what would the most important modifiers, perks and blessings on it be?
rocky cedar
Transfer peril
steel flame
You want quell on weakpoint
rocky cedar
No idea about perks and breakpoints
steel flame
You can spam forever
rocky cedar
I think just about every stat is fairly important on Void?
steel flame
If you run toughness on warp kill you can fill your whole bar up in one shot if you play your lanes right
Find places you can line up long headshots and spam. You can kill entire waves before your zealot can reach them
I use it with brutal antax because it's also really good in close quarters with good cleave even at low charge
sly matrix
aight
steel flame
I run these feats with it 122133
sly matrix
Thank you
sly matrix
I use it with brutal antax because it's also really good in close quarters with ...
just saw an antax with brutalm omentum, but its the tier 1 blessing. If I upgrade the weapon from blue, will the blessing upgrade as well?
steel flame
If you can get warp flurry and any level of transfer peril you are set
floral solstice
nope
steel flame
Half charge spam is your best friend. Go for headshots
Higher charge for elites, try to shoot around ogryns and maulers as they will stop your cleave. Use bb on them instead
3/4 charge will knock down bursters
steel flame
1/4 charge will stun dogs out of the air
Alright class. Any questions?
Also when you hit 30 crit headshots at once it WILL get very very loud
Also you don't have to hit them directly in the head. You can aim between heads as the void ball has a hitbox that scales with charge
sly matrix
Also you don't have to hit them directly in the head. You can aim between heads ...
aight, thanks
sly matrix
Alright class. Any questions?
any important breakpoints for damnation?
sly matrix
Alright class. Any questions?
Im a teacher irl 🤭
steel flame
Noice
I dunno. Never bothered with breakpoints tbh
At least with void
Damage can vary wildly with psyker so I focus on knowing stagger breakpoints to minimize the damage I take rather than looking for oneshot with voidstaff
I swap between antax, bb and voidstaff so often I end up cleaning my own messes up so I didn't bother memorizing damage breakpoints for voidstaff
Maybe one day
steel flame
any important breakpoints for damnation?
If I think of any I will let you know
sly matrix
I swap between antax, bb and voidstaff so often I end up cleaning my own messes ...
why do you use antax over force sword?
feral crater
Antax has really good single target damage, it's push-strike cleave is really high. Force sword is more around it's specific abilities like deflector. Still they seem to be pretty close in value to me
But yeah as they said, breakpoints on Psyker really hard to focus because of the stacks increasing damage, getting different effects with high peril, crits, variable charge... In general you more focused on the muscle memory of how high to charge for each target. You make your own breakpoints with charge length
near wyvern
The thing is FS is a very defensive weapon, but in horde games targets that are dead don't need to be defended against. The FS special obliterates pretty much everything but in damnation it's just a bait to take health damage due to the animation lock. You can only pretty much use it against mutants. The horde clear is bearable with slaughterer + shred but if you are not running something like deflector with it you might as well take another weapon.
steel flame
why do you use antax over force sword?
Reason I don't use deflector fs is because of toughness on warp kill. I can fire into ranged enemies as much as I want and Regen any chip damage I take. Void staff is also very good in closr quarters so I take kinetic deflector antax to compliment that. Push attack easily cleans up stuff I knock down with void and can kill mutants and specials very easily. It also means I can block for as long as I need to to make space to line up headshots to Regen toughness in a melee brawl.
So funny enough my void staff play style ends of being my most melee focused and my most ranged focused at the same time. Swapping between goin in and sitting back whenever I need too
inland sand
pretty sure at this point Brutal Momentum Antax is just the best melee weapon in the game. I have one on my Psyker and on my Vet now and it's just ridiculous.
Basically a power sword with higher mobility and you don't have to charge and kills Crushers faster
summer prairie
power sword does 10x damag
antax does damage to 3 targets
with the push attacka nyway, but the lights dont do much either
The worst possible power sword with 0 stats is better against the horde than the best antax basically at least in terms of damage
still hearth
Basically a Power Sword if you ignore it only killing one target per swing instead of 13
The funny thing is that a stacked Force Sword actually has massive cleave potential with the heavies but theit attack arcs are horrible for cleaving
steel flame
I prefer force sword on most of my other builds, especially my new laspistol build and my purge staff. Mobility and defense for the laspistol and ranged defense for a close range flame build
floral solstice
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cyan notch
forest coral
sly matrix
I prefer force sword on most of my other builds, especially my new laspistol bui...
I like the dueling sword with my surge
Versatile and quick
And I feel very comfortable with the moveset
steel flame
I use it on my trauma staff build
sly matrix
I use it on my trauma staff build
why on trauma and not on surge?
sly matrix
Why not?
I feel like I help my team a ton by stunning ragers, soldiers, dogs, busters, bulwarks
steel flame
It's a really powerful staff I just don't enjoy using it and so I don't have a build for it
Its more of personal preference than anything
I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't flow for me the way I want
sly matrix
I understand
I'll try asking again. If anyone has it, could someone show me how the skull helmet looks on this armor? Im thinking about buying it but I cant try it on the shop https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713271161139494912/1078725465507897364/image.png
steel flame
I'm at work at the moment but I have both but it won't be for a few hours
sly matrix
I'm at work at the moment but I have both but it won't be for a few hours
thank you, ping me with the image if you remember it
steel flame
Aight
lilac raft
hey anyone has a cool build to use the electrical staff ?
inland sand
hey anyone has a cool build to use the electrical staff ?
I run 3-2-1or2-1-3-1 on it
cast constantly, use F ability to keep casting uptime to a maximum
on the 15 row it's a choice between either passive warp charges or even faster ultimate cycling that also helps the rest of the squad
doesn't really matter what you take, preference really
Not sure if Surge staves can take Warp nexus (crit blessing that scales with peril) but if they can, take that
perk wise the one u definitely want is vs Flak
wise pecan
Not sure if Surge staves can take Warp nexus (crit blessing that scales with per...
they can
i've got a surge staff with +20% flak and +25% carapace. delicious
inland sand
i've got a surge staff with +20% flak and +25% carapace. delicious
this is the perk load out I rock as well
one of the few weapons I like with +Carapace
wise pecan
to be fair, it's one of the few weapons that touches carapace at all lol
almost every other weapon is better used for polishing carapace than damaging it
surge staff is the only dedicated anti-armor weapon
wise pecan
Not sure if Surge staves can take Warp nexus (crit blessing that scales with per...
is crit chance that good on surge?
i know you def want it on purg
but last i heard surge crits were pretty lacklustre
inland sand
it already has a lot of inbuilt crit
so getting crit perk means you probably won't see a lot of return from it due to diminishing returns
especially when you factor in Warp nexus
wise pecan
i mean why do you want warp nexus instead of something else, though?
frigid marten
surge have like 4 blessing.
wise pecan
ie terrifying barrage, just as an example
inland sand
i mean u get 2 blessings
and your choices are nexus, flurry, barrage and run and gun
so realistically speaking you're probs gonna wanna take flurry and nexus
wise pecan
my instincts are terrifying barrage and focused channeling, just because if you're using surge and enemies are in close range, you probably really want to make sure you can keep using it
inland sand
this is a surge staff crit chance at 29% critbonus mod
I'm really not a fan of focused channelling, that blessing gets you killed in my experience
wise pecan
just cause it takes away the feedback from getting hit?
inland sand
seems to be and issue with Q swapping when you are currently engaged in weapon secondary action
no it takes away the stun
so lets so you get hit
normally u get interrupted
and that interrupt window is when u switch to melee
if u get hit with focused channeling, you don't get stunned
and keep casting in secondary
and for some reason the game does not let you Q swap when u r in secondary
like it doesn't read the input or something
it's fucking weird
wise pecan
mmm. i suppose terrifying barrage and warp flurry could be good, then. a 20% chance to get 12% more damage seems completely worthless to me
frigid marten
crit is also more stagger.
wise pecan
more stagger... on the staff that stunlocks anything with one hit?
floral solstice
uhh you can just switch to melee or dodge back if you're about to get hit while using surge
inland sand
and personally speaking I'd rather take a little extra damage even if it is negligible
floral solstice
i dont q swap
also spam casts on surge can still get interrupted by shooters with the right timing so i still prefer focused
inland sand
as I said, it's all pretty negligible. take whatever u prefer
I don't like FC so I don't take it, but if u do go wild
floral solstice
yeah i know surge/purg blesses in general are eh.
inland sand
maybe one day they will add interesting blessings to the staves
floral solstice
but i've never, ever, experienced that thing you mentioned before
about not being able to switch or w/e
inland sand
but i've never, ever, experienced that thing you mentioned before
it happens to me all the time mate. across multiple weapons
i feel like it's dropped inputs from latency
floral solstice
if it's a Q swap thing then i have no idea
floral solstice
occasionally i do fail some swaps but that's usually because i click too fast
wise pecan
purg seems to have three good options. you definitely want the crit chance on purg, since crits = double stacks, not getting interrupted by melee attacks when using the melee-range weapon is good, and your kills are always close range, so terrifying barrage has to be going off frequently
inland sand
would be nice not to have it and for the weapon to just swap when i press the swap button
frigid marten
purgatus effect already have suppression.
wise pecan
yes, but more suppression (especially at the edges) is more better
frigid marten
then suppression behind you is the good one.
near wyvern
this is a surge staff crit chance at 29% critbonus mod
Note that it was stated by a fatshark official critical damage bonus only applies to the extra damage portion, so it's even less than what the % would imply.
As an example, if you have a weapon dealing 100 damage on a normal hit but 200 damage on a crit, with +20% critical damage you would be dealing 100 + 100 * 1.2 = 220 damage.
inland sand
There u go, so even less reason to line into crit perk/blessing
frigid marten
it's not already calculated on the damage numbers of the info tab?
because is the staff bar modifier.
near wyvern
There u go, so even less reason to line into crit perk/blessing
Some people state crits do more stagger so +crit chance is still useful. For purge you apply double stacks and given the damage scaling on those +crit chance is very beneficial for reducing the damage ramp up time.
near wyvern
it's not already calculated on the damage numbers of the info tab?
It is
floral solstice
yeah i've seen some people say that about crit staggers
tbh i dont notice it much
near wyvern
tbh i dont notice it much
It depends on the weapon, unfortunately we don't have a table for staff secondary fires. For LMB and other weapons you can find the crit stagger values in the table, and if staff secondaries follow the same pattern, they should stagger more on crit.
inland sand
Some people state crits do more stagger so +crit chance is still useful. For pur...
yeah on purg crit is goated
i think on surge i'd rather just have + vs though
floral solstice
found this clip of a previous cursed hi5 run w/ chinese randoms, i think the mutie delayed the poxburster's explosion lol https://streamable.com/pvx8ep
olive ember
Is heresy still bugged btw?
wise pecan
Just recently a mutie saved my ass from facetanking a burster
Apparently when a mutie hits you, you have a brief window of invulnerability
So the mutie grabbed my and amber instant later the pox burster detonated and did 0 damage lol
dusky bear
after weeks of trying to find a single void strike staff with blazing spirit on it
the last 3 that i have upgraded to blue have all had blazing spirit put on them
hadron is really just doin me like that
inland sand
why is that blessing good?
steel flame
you can hit like 30 people with a crit at once and it effects everything in the aoe of the crit too
dusky bear
why is that blessing good?
soul blaze is great at softening targets and clearing chaff. adds even better damage to an already really good damage staff
inland sand
doesn't void and trauma have a 5% crit rate tho
safe crystal
Soul blaze also has very low damage on low amounts of stacks. Iirc, 3 stacks = 9 DPS or something
inland sand
yeah i feel like its a total meme
dusky bear
warp nexus is a thing
inland sand
no, crit chance isn;'t bad. taking crit chance to only apply 2-3 stacks of soulblaze on a low chance is bad
as is the opportunity cost of forgoing flurry
inland sand
in lieu of what though
safe crystal
more crit chance is bad
Depends on the weapon. If you look at some of the weapon damages at the damage table, you can see the crit damage is fairly low. Its more beneficial usually to have a flat 25% boost to a certain armour type
inland sand
like I have this blessing on my VS and I think it's a joke tbh
dusky bear
Depends on the weapon. If you look at some of the weapon damages at the damage t...
blessings do not take the place of perks. you can have both
inland sand
if I could get this on Purg I would run it all fucking day
but for some reason they made it only apply to the 2 worst staves suited for it
forest coral
Peril transfer + warp flurry would still probably be better on your void strike
safe crystal
blessings do not take the place of perks. you can have both
Yes, but dedicating 2 blessings for a void strike, for example, would leave me with no room for peril transfer, which is very good on void
forest coral
But I do wish that vs would crit more
inland sand
Peril transfer + warp flurry would still probably be better on your void strike
this is defintiely what I would build it as
ur sustained dps is going to be much higher
olive ember
did damnation get easier? because I'm bringing my group who barely touched heresy in and we just beat two damnations in a row
like was it nerfed
inland sand
did damnation get easier? because I'm bringing my group who barely touched heres...
nah, total RNG
some games are really hard
dusky bear
maybe im just crazy. but i never seem to have an issue with peril manegment
inland sand
all depends on the spawn director
safe crystal
did damnation get easier? because I'm bringing my group who barely touched heres...
Premades usually play around much better, and then theres RNG. Pugs are still a coin flip, now more than ever
inland sand
maybe im just crazy. but i never seem to have an issue with peril manegment
me neither, but sustained dps takes into consideration how much you have to quell
if you don't have to quell you can keep shooting
forest coral
maybe im just crazy. but i never seem to have an issue with peril manegment
It’s not about peril management it just enables you to blast much more than you normally would
right now low soulblaze ticks just don’t really feel worth it
dusky bear
and thats great that you have minmaxed your voidstrike build and can do maximum sustained dps to do the most optimal damage possible, but im playing to enjoy the game. And enjoyment to me sounds like a psychic powered incindary grenade launcher
inland sand
if we're talking enjoyment
then play whatever u want
i like everything so i def understand that take
proven raven
I personally enjoy a low burn that'll weed out a few bits of extra chaff that much quicker, damage is damage 
floral solstice
To each their own <a:SkadiNODDERS:899288090881949747>
no u play like me or be banished
forest coral
no u play like me or be banished
inland sand
I personally enjoy a low burn that'll weed out a few bits of extra chaff that mu...
I like a harsh burn myself followed by coughing
safe crystal
Im honestly just waiting for a surge at this point so i can swap out the transfer peril from this very old staff i have to see how it plays out
inland sand
that's how u know u've ripped well
floral solstice
rip quell speed
inland sand
still need to make a Psyker called Perils McQuellington
but i don't want to go through the leveling process again
floral solstice
i saw one named criss angel with the right look
inland sand
LOl excellent
dusky bear
also 5% crit perk, 5% base crit, 20% crit from warpnexus = 1 out of 3 shots applying 3 stacks of soul blaze in a large AOE with direct hit doing an additional ~430 damage sounds pretty nice to me
especially since void strike detonates on high hit mass specialists
damage the rager while softening everything around them
sage yacht
is the idea that the mk5 with limbsplitter works because block and attack isn't a chain?
inland sand
alright back to work for me
safe crystal
also 5% crit perk, 5% base crit, 20% crit from warpnexus = 1 out of 3 shots appl...
Warp nexus gets the last 2 stacks at 97% peril, so you can only rely on 10% from it. Other than that, might take a look at this myself later on
still hearth
They changed that didn't they.
safe crystal
Did they?
dusky bear
Warp nexus gets the last 2 stacks at 97% peril, so you can only rely on 10% from...
going to need a source on this
cause thats sounds like cap
still hearth
I think they changed it so its only 4 stacks now but it applies properly
safe crystal
Yesterday someone was saying it was still the old system
still hearth
It used to be that you get the last 2 stacks at 97% peril
Not sure if that's true anymore.
dusky bear
even if thats the case, thats fine. Ive gotten the art of juggling 100% peril down to a science
safe crystal
Gonna take a while
still hearth
That's a lot of effort to get data
Though people just look into the code
Like @lethal folio might know if Warp Nexus and the peril blessings still use 2 stacks at 97%?
safe crystal
The old % were 30,50,97 right?
still hearth
I think it was 20, 40, 60, 97, 97
safe crystal
Hm
still hearth
But idk, I didn't pay much attention to it
safe crystal
Nexus for flurry 
olive ember
Wait I already have terrifying barrage in my library
that means I can hand in my current surge staff for warp flurry
is terrifying barrage not good I forget
safe crystal
It works, so yeah, i guess
still hearth
still 0.3/0.5/0.97/0.97
Thanks! Though that feels like its actually worse.
But idk if it was that way from the start.
wise pecan
Terrifying barrage seems like one I’d want on every staff, just as a defensive cc
rocky cedar
But idk if it was that way from the start.
It was
olive ember
btw do surge staff runs warp nexus + warp flurry or warp nexus + terrifying barrage
cuz warp flurry works with surge now
olive ember
it aint bad but you would want Slaughterer
What are best blessings on flamer btw (the zealot flamethrower)
bright raft
it aint bad but you would want Slaughterer
thought so 😦
still hearth
Blaze Away is insane on flamer now.
olive ember
wat about second perk
still hearth
Overpressure is the only other one with any impact basically.
median elk
What are best blessings on flamer btw (the zealot flamethrower)
Blaze away+overpressure
olive ember
does overpressure increase burn damage?
still hearth
Yes.
You even get more damage if you run Heavy Sword with Headtaker and Rampage, if you got someone burning and stack it on the sword
olive ember
ah alright I thought it was only direct damage so thats good to know
still hearth
Since DoT damage is improved based on the buffs you have.
Regardless of what weapon you use.
olive ember
ah i c
Also wats best weapon on zealot?
idk I like the idea of zealot in concept but I hate all their weapons XD
except the combat axe but then I'd just play psyker
still hearth
Heavy Sword for horde clear
Thunder Hammer for single target
Antax for overall usefulness with BM
The others are kind of marginally worse
cyan notch
devils claw
still hearth
Knife is great for mobility and single target, but lacks cleave.
Claw, the worse Heavy Sword.
If only Psyker got Heavy Sword
olive ember
how about eviscerator
cyan notch
crazy horde clear weapon on psyker
olive ember
If we cope hard enough maybe the force greatsword will be like the heavysword
except with special killing
worn heath
aoe force blast special
still hearth
They'll do it the same way they did thunder hammer
olive ember
is the eviscerator no long considered good btw?
still hearth
Eviscerator was always decent
All melees on Zealot are at least good.
But some are just gooder.
worn heath
evis general purpose, specialist weapons will always do better than it, but it can handle most every situation
unreal dust
These are very good Zealot questions. But also this is Psyker chat xD
olive ember
yeah
zealot chat doesn't answer questions
neither does vet half the time
so I just always ask in psyker chat
unreal dust
I wonder why Psyker chat is friendlier
strange wigeon
If only Psyker got Heavy Sword
still wonder why they took it away from psyker, in the psyker announcment trailer he could use it
still hearth
still wonder why they took it away from psyker, in the psyker announcment traile...
Arbitrarily I'd presume
olive ember
and the shotgun
strange wigeon
Arbitrarily I'd presume
"just because" is half the design of the game so it fits
unreal dust
Purgatus w/ Terrifying Barrage or Surge Staff is all you need anyways...
near wyvern
I wonder why Psyker chat is friendlier
Because we can relate to suffering
dusky bear
hound pack modifired just runs a train of dogs on you now 
floral solstice
yeah it's hilarious
silk flax
Behold siblings. Near perfect god roll
north cradle
Check out this beaut I found
idle bay
tired hemlock
I wonder why Psyker chat is friendlier
Because we are all use to hearing voices... not sure if you are asking, or if you are me from within. either way we enjoy the conversation. 😆
floral solstice
he's probably just missing the shitposting/sweaty arguments
then again i guess other class channels are more sweaty
safe crystal
At least its not constant here
crystal jolt
I wonder why Psyker chat is friendlier
because psykers are the real oppressed class, both in universe and in the patch notes
feral verge
because psykers are the real oppressed class, both in universe and in the patch ...
They are second only to gamers
stuck shoal
what exactly is a warp charge
is it just the peril thing
because there is a feat that allows up to 6 "warp charges"
safe crystal
what exactly is a warp charge
The stacks you get out of brain burst kills/from certain talents. You can see your current stack amount bottom left, where the rest of the buffs are. One stack = 4% power, max of 4, or 6 with a talent
dawn bluff
its a medusa looking blue icon
summer prairie
There is no decline, some of the maps just don't have enough material spawn points
safe crystal
it just makes me do more damage?
Some talents give you additional benefits as well, but on base level, yes
dawn bluff
yep and triggers passive
vernal frost
did you know that force sword special doesn't explode barrels
safe crystal
Additional power = more damage, cleave and stagger as well
stuck shoal
Additional power = more damage, cleave and stagger as well
Cleave?
safe crystal
Cleave?
The amount of enemies your melee weapon damages and goes through when you hit them
stuck shoal
ah
safe crystal
Also ranged, but its not as important for psykers
stuck shoal
like piercing but not
stuck shoal
Also ranged, but its not as important for psykers
idk i use the lightning staff
so wait the more warp charge i have the farther that would reach?
safe crystal
Nah, the range remains the same
stuck shoal
ah
stuck shoal
I think its 5 or 6?
i think it is 4
is there a better one for crowd control
like hordes n such
i know theres a flamethrower one but i have not unlocked it yet
safe crystal
For stopping targets completely, surge is the best. For hordes, purgatus is the best option for psyker
Trauma and void strike are somewhere in the middle, but both have some problems with them
stuck shoal
i tried voidstrike
safe crystal
Trauma being clunky to aim and void strike falling short on higher difficulties
near wyvern
Trauma and void strike are somewhere in the middle, but both have some problems ...
What do you mean, my trauma stick is working fine
safe crystal
What do you mean, my trauma stick is working fine
Clunky aim, is what i was going for :>
near wyvern
Clunky aim, is what i was going for :>
It's not clunky, it's the only thing possible for allowing you to shoot over ledges above you
fresh reef
Clunky aim, is what i was going for :>
aim isn't too terrible, aside from the strange maximum range thing it has going on
near wyvern
Void is good up to damnation, at damnation hi it falls off due to the amount of elites that spawn
safe crystal
Yep, one just needs to get used to it. Im not saying trauma is bad, its my 2nd favourite staff
summer prairie
Trauma and void are pretty good if you have a t3-t4 flurry now that it fully works even with full charges
near wyvern
Trauma and void are pretty good if you have a t3-t4 flurry now that it fully wor...
Can confirm. I have a T3 flurry with T2 rending shock wave, can't wait to find a T4 rending to slap on it
But to truly benefit from the flurry you want to run inner tranq and warp battery
inland sand
I have T4 Rending but no flurry abover tier 2
question on peril transfer
does it go to tier 4?
near wyvern
Yes
safe crystal
Yes
near wyvern
It's 5% at T4
Highest I have is 4%, but I bet it's good since even the 4% allows to do infinites with only 4 warp charges
And inner tranq
With void that is
Don't use it on Trauma
safe crystal
Does anyone here have the surge blessing on void strike? I recall someone saying yesterday crits shoot 2 charged balls on void strike, but i cant test it myself, i dont have a surge yet
near wyvern
Someone here had it, @long wharf did you have one?
summer prairie
Can't imagine it ever being good since flurry and peril transfer are both quite essential. You have to go surge+nexus so you lose both
safe crystal
True, but i just want to experiment
viral solstice
i mean how is it not good its so fun
u literally shoot 2 shoots per shoot
u just rng a fiesta
all good gameplay is based around fiesta
safe crystal
Waiting for a bloodthirsty on FS as well so i can slap things with 100% crits causing 3 stacks of soul blaze each hit for 5 seconds
leaden thunder
does that still work?
I have been told it doesn't work like that for the other weapons that can roll it
safe crystal
Surge or bloodthirsty? Afaik, bloodthirsty just sets your crit to 100, and the soul blaze blessing applies it on crits
I wouldnt be surprised if there was some kind of a cooldown on it though
sly matrix
Should I buy it?
still hearth
Yes
viral solstice
buy it so u can strike voids
cyan notch
zamn
leaden thunder
Surge or bloodthirsty? Afaik, bloodthirsty just sets your crit to 100, and the s...
blodthirsty
I was told it now is only on the next attack
viral solstice
leaden thunder
for the chain weapons that can roll it at least
cyan notch
its 5s for fs
safe crystal
Well shit
safe crystal
Oh
cyan notch
leaden thunder
that's dumb
safe crystal
The dream lives on
safe crystal
Yep, thats the best one you can get
sly matrix
im gonna keep upgrading it
leaden thunder
aim at head height and leter rip
sly matrix
Give a prayer to the Omnissiah for me
leaden thunder
swap cara for flak and the perks are fine
second blessing shoudl be the charge speed one
warp flurry I think
cyan notch
yea
leaden thunder
I wish if you reblessed something it counted as earning the blessing you take off
still hearth
shit?
That's pretty good.
I think Transfer Peril 2 is good enough.
And Terrifying Barrage isn't useless either.
Unarmored + Flak is my choice for Voidstrike
long wharf
Someone here had it, <@524039295317835797> did you have one?
Nope, not me
viral solstice
real chads run blazing spirit with peril
near wyvern
real chads run blazing spirit with peril
I use one, unfortunately you can't trigger AB warp charges on enemies that are killed by the actual critical hit but at least that has been marked as acknowledged, so some day.
viral solstice
Yeah I know it’s so sad
But seeing when u crit because ppl are on fire is cool
Setting people on fire is a lifestyle
near wyvern
It's about ambience
viral solstice
I might even start running soulblaze on bb kill
Why not I’m being useless as it is
something else that annoys me about void staff
notice crit ratio on left click
crit ratios on right click
its just like cmon its the same green shit
let the actual bolt have decent finesse bonuses
viral solstice
yes
if u have a bunch of crit left click spam does kinda nasty dps vs some targets lol
flak etc
it just feels so goofy
still hearth
Abusing the reload quick shot means the primary actuall does chunky damage
viral solstice
ye but it shouldnt be like that
the charged version should be left click edition: explosion more power
still hearth
We need a staff
viral solstice
not i charged it for 1.6s and on a crit im doing 30% more damage to flak
viral solstice
i mean u say that
but have u considered how funny it is that the charge shot could just be holding left click
feral verge
Are earned blessings infinite? Could I put deflector on an infinite amount of force swords? Or will it be spent, and I'd have to find the blessing again?
viral solstice
but if they did that they would have to make 3 primaries
still hearth
Are earned blessings infinite? Could I put deflector on an infinite amount of fo...
You can apply them repeatedly.
feral verge
Dope, thanks
steel egret
I just want this
vocal fox
And Terrifying Barrage isn't useless either.
isn't useless,just doesn't work
viral solstice
its the only fun thing i can think to do with psyker
rng double shots for the memes
steel egret
Its only thing about Darktide I think of.
viral solstice
im spam upgrading random voidstrike staves in the hope hadron gives it to me
she is not
steel egret
I have this one fading memory that I saw one around launch
I just want my machine gun staff.
to have even more firerate.
dusky bear
i joined the cool kids club
wet jacinth
sly matrix
Fellas I didnt enjoy the voidstrike staff
I feel like dealing with hordes is not so hard that I need a staff for it, I can just kill them with the melee weapon
and I feel like shooters ogrins, etc. can be easily dealt with with the ultimate + BB feat combination
what am i missing
daring nexus
A good melee weapon will do the job but staffs are objectively better at hoard clearing so…
obtuse crypt
I like surge stunning and killing with dueling sword 
viral solstice
it has less feat synergy than purg and basically u just get to do ok damage vs everything but give up all specific strength
so calling it bad is a bit unfair its more just kinda mediocre feeling
idk im not huge on any of the staves and purg is powerful but boring
sly matrix
I like surge stunning and killing with dueling sword <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727...
based that's my build
obtuse crypt
based that's my build
broken quail
Upgraded so many bloody voidstrikes and not a single warp nexus, what is with these chances
cold geode
drowsy torrent
My sword now since we have ReBlesss
rigid sky
What's the best way to fight a monstrosity as a Force Sword/Purgatus/Ascending Blaze Psyker? Spam brain bursts, attempt to force strike the weak spots, or just keep lighting them up with soulblaze from the staff? And how about the Assassination captain?
I kinda cludged through on T3-4 but I would like to know what I should be aiming to do for T5s
onyx lotus
good question thats hard to test. ive been a fan of force sword nuking it personally, but i haven't studied that damage output tbh.
near wyvern
It's hard to say since we don't have damage numbers, my feel is that soulblaze doesn't really do much against monstrosities, the purgatus range is also rather short so you will put yourself into danger with that. I would say BB spam regardless of your build but it's your main job to focus ads first.
That way you can pull out melee if the boss comes after you
Not taking damage is also an important factor when fighting monstrosities, not just dealing DPS
onyx lotus
that one feat that adds 5%-15% extra damage on force attacks w/ peril, and the force sword special is just a tasty smack every time.
crystal jolt
if its an assassination boss, go force sword, they get nuked by them and in between go on CC for any horde that appears.
For a daemonhost, if you can get behind and close without getting knocked away, then force sword, otherwise BB.
For plague ogryn or beast, focus on cleaning up any extra enemies when they spawn. If it's on you, kite it and BB. if i's not, just BB and kill any specials that spawn.
fresh reef
is Wrack and Ruin applying soulblaze on hit intended?
fresh reef
I'm a tad out of the loop, mb
just reinstalled today and didn't bother reading the notes lol
clear heath
wrack and ruin still sucks anyways imo
fresh reef
does it have a cap for stacks?
clear heath
idk but it's not applying that many anyways
fresh reef
I was thinking it could be useful for boss dps
drowsy torrent
if you have a flame staff for assaasiation boss you should just clear hoardes and specials first
fresh reef
I run trauma
drowsy torrent
bc if the squishy carry takes aggro he will pull boss away and boss will bust out shotty and kill you
fresh reef
ever since the WC timer change I haven't really felt the need to equip the purg
drowsy torrent
or plasma
fresh reef
bc if the squishy carry takes aggro he will pull boss away and boss will bust ou...
skill issue tbh
just dodge
drowsy torrent
just hope lol
or you can just not let the possibility of this common thing to even happen
fresh reef
I want to like surge staff so much but it's cucked me with its autotargeting too many times
fresh reef
like, instead of stunning a gunner it decides to arc to the nearby shooters
most often it decides to ignore the bulwark in my face and just hit poxwalkers
though it could definitely just be negativity bias because I suck with the staff lol
drowsy torrent
you can move the cursor around to produce sparks of lightning on enemies to assist with the chains you want
fresh reef
I forget that's a thing a lot of the time lol
the sparks are a tad hard to notice for me
drowsy torrent
its a faint visual indicator but its ther
echo turtle
Watched a psyler blow himself up twice in the first part of a damnation run before he left the game
drowsy torrent
i only ever intentionally do this
echo turtle
neither was intentional
drowsy torrent
usually if i'm low hp and doomed anyway
echo turtle
He would have been fine,
echo turtle
a wound is never worth clearing trash
drowsy torrent
its because with BB its ok to release skill at 100% peril as long as you started at 97
not the case with staff
i disagree
trash mobs make it hard to kill the elites and specials in the horde
to pick them out sometimes. its all realative
viral solstice
drowsy torrent
lol
viral solstice
extreme brainpower demonstration
drowsy torrent
Nothing is always the same everytime aside from mathematics
not even going to discuss it with you
you lack the capacity
stray birch
Hrmm? Who lacks capacity for what?
drowsy torrent
exactly
stray birch
Perhaps it is you who lacks the capacity to understand anothers preference and taste?
viral solstice
i surge chaff all the time
its funny
get zapped idiots
time to boogie
actually out of interest i just surged the poxwalkers in psykhanium and i kill 2 - TWO! on a crit
now thats what i call limited power
⚡
truly the gamer choice
just wish they had crit as a stat on voidstrike
stray birch
I love voidstrike charging that ball all the way up and launching that bitch down a hallway full of pox walkers and watching them all disappear fills me with joy.
viral solstice
u know what a sick blessing for void strike would be
every consecutive weakspot hit doubles the blast radius
u yeet that shit down a corridor and by the end its a wmd
drowsy torrent
yeah my surge crits crushers for 600+ damage on crit. i crit every other full charge
oh and it locks down the toughest enemies in the game
stray birch
I need to get off the subreddit before their godawful takes spike my blood pressure any further.
viral solstice
what happened
stray birch
its about lightning that sets ppl on fire
Honestly I would be down for more soulfire proc ways.
viral solstice
its also just annoying that surge staff is apparently a crit archetype but then the blessings dont key off it
stray birch
what happened
Just someone with the average intelligence of a stone complaining about the recent change to psyker weapons.
viral solstice
tbh i really didnt like the super speed passive quell on normie weapons
it felt pretty goofy
like heres ur sick psychic sword to help with psychic shit except a random lump of iron lets u escape the warp faster gl
primal fjord
So is Kinetic Deflection worth using on any builds not using a Deflector ForceSword?
stray birch
Because it's too hard to Press R and quell with a staff for a second.
fresh reef
So is Kinetic Deflection worth using on any builds not using a Deflector ForceSw...
it's best in slot imo, since no matter what melee weapon you use it frees up a curio slot to run something besides stamina
stray birch
Or to wait to quell to extract from melee.
fresh reef
combine with mk5 combat axe for maximum comedy
stray birch
Eh, don't need stamina anyways. Just don't get hit.
viral solstice
i run mind in motion because it feels nicer and dying is just a fact of life.. and death
stray birch
i run mind in motion because it feels nicer and dying is just a fact of life.. a...
Mind in motion is good.
But I run the ranged damage reduction with peril build up.
viral solstice
ye i take it nto for power reasons i just hate how slow a lot of stuff on psyker is by default
i assume that ranged damage reduction is generic toughness dr no
i havent checked the lua but if its like the others it probably is
stray birch
i assume that ranged damage reduction is generic toughness dr no
I believe it is, up to 33%, which for psyker is quite a bit buys you some wiggle room.
A lot more than some extra blocking stamina.
Because if you're in a situation you have to block a lot as a psyker, you're already pretty fucked.
stray birch
I just tend to try to stay out of melee, and if I am in melee, abuse my extremely fast Stam recharge and push, kill a bit, and fucking leave.
clear heath
mind in motion is kinda pointless imo since it barely does anything for staff quelling
staves already walk at like 90% speed when quelling
stray birch
But you feel so faaast
clear heath
try measuring how far you get while quelling with mind in motion vs without it when you use a staff
you barely get like 10% more distance
stray birch
Please don't mind me, sleep deprivation has caused brain damage.
clear heath
it only matters for quelling with BB hands
stray birch
it only matters for quelling with BB hands
I agree
north cradle
This looks promising
viral solstice
i just wanna yeet fireballs down corridors
and im sure one of the next 100 staves i consecrate will have surge
right... right?
clear heath
oh right, i got surge blessing yesterday and sacrificed it without testing it
i probably should've tried it out
viral solstice
frankly rude
proud mantle
This looks promising
id keep it but not upgrade and wait for a better roll on damage
clear heath
well, i can rebless something with it when i get some plasteel later and try it out
viral solstice
a 1 soulblaze stack on crit with any weapon feat would be so dank
obviously broken with some things but i would take that shit
i just like the green fire effect
clear heath
I think it's blue