psyker-class

[austere estuary]

what on earth

[olive ember]

Nope even then warp resist is probably better

[austere estuary]

saw a 3000+ mutie crit weakpoint strong attack on the FS

[near wyvern]

How I did it is I look Melk (via browser addon) every day. If there is a good purple with 2 good blessings or a good orange with 1 bad blessing, it's a buy.

[austere estuary]

non force attack

[olive ember]

Makes BB more efficient if you get high stack count with kinetic flayer and KB or wte

[void mural]

Wait, can you refine perks, then consecrate to remove the lock?

[olive ember]

Didn’t work like that beforehand but

[austere estuary]

ohhhhh

[near wyvern]

For a gun psyker? Please. You only need to quell 3%.

[olive ember]

If that’s changed then pog

[austere estuary]

okay

[void mural]

Right?!

[austere estuary]

yeah AB not using warp charges just a bug thing

happens if we swap to AB from barrage while having stacks active

until that stack drops, AB doesn't consume, oh well

[olive ember]

The dot damage is complete trash, since you are prob building stacks via KF, the warp resist is way more beneficial imo

Granted I don’t run gun psyker kek but the wrack and ruin charges I would imagine are useless as the only time you would be BB would be against crusher spam

At which point you would want to be able to BB more without quelling

[loud girder]

best melee weapon for psyker? i cant seem to pick and enjoy one in particular T_T

CLAW* maybe is my fav

[near wyvern]

6 stacks will kill all non-elites/specials so it's not that trash

[olive ember]

I prefer FS but people have used axes, dueling swords, knives, etc etc

[sly matrix]

Ppl recommend axe, knife and force sword, but I will never drop my dueling sword

[olive ember]

I suppose but it’s gotta be crushers in a horde and they gotta be REALLY close

[split oxide]

passive quells have been nerfed haven't they?

[near wyvern]

Yes, so still not solid but better than the alternatives

[near wyvern]

Yes. F.

[olive ember]

Yeah but as someone who used a FS since CBT imo it’s just something you gotta get used to rip

[sly matrix]

I hate that change and I think it wasnt deserved

[near wyvern]

I guess it's time to find that bloodthirsty slaughterer FS

[void mural]

They should have at minimum made them half quell speed than 0%

[olive ember]

I mean I still run deflector FS

It’s just a nice safety net if you get caught in the open

And slaughterer I find does well enough in its own to kill shit

[void mural]

It's slaughterer...

[near wyvern]

Although staves got a buff in passive quell so there is that

[proud mantle]

how important is cleave targets for combat axe

[near wyvern]

Typing on my phone, butter fingers what can you do

[near wyvern]

It's not. Brutal momentum is.

[void mural]

What? No, I was replying to derpy. Of course slaughterer is all he needs, haha

[sly matrix]

I have a question. If I have the brain burst mode on (two hands out), should I take the staff out to quell for the quelling time stat? Ive been doing it but idk

[patent steeple]

what are the best (or at the very least decent) blessings for a FS?

[near wyvern]

For combat axe you want something that sends the head flying in one hit combined with brutal momentum. Then what happens is:

[olive ember]

Yes imo

[rose lily]

i'll replace one of these blessings with a %12 deflector
which one should i replace?

[olive ember]

The staff quell can brin you from 100 to 30 in like 2-3 seconds

[split oxide]

@near wyvern can you review the two staffs? still trash?
pls?

[proud mantle]

precog methinks needs to go

[olive ember]

I run deflector + slaughterer

[normal hawk]

I'm thinking keep the one with 50% charge rate?

[olive ember]

If you want more killing power replace deflector for something like blood thirsty

If you want better quelling get exorcist but it’s kinda meh imo

[near wyvern]

Yes you bring the staff out. The time gained in quelling just for next BB is depatable, in all honesty it's the same since you have to do a weapon swap but you can move more freely for that couple of seconds which is more valuable than you think.

[split oxide]

You don't need to maxcharge for stun - the effect is constat. but you'll not get damage delivery
You can half charge to lockdown opponents.. but youll be sitting there waiting for some teammates to remember you need help

[olive ember]

The warp res is more important imo

[pearl delta]

sorry, if i'm late to the party: now that we can move blessings, what are people building? also are non-force sowrd weapons pointless now that passive quell got nerfed to the ground

[olive ember]

Nah their killing power is still rly good

[still hearth]

Antax is still the best melee that Psyker has imo

[olive ember]

And you bring it for the killing power

[normal hawk]

Yea that's what I'm thinking

[neat summit]

Antax easily one of the best melees in the game, especially for psyker.

[still hearth]

If only you guys weren't snubbed

And got Heavy Sword still

Now that its become an absolute monster

[olive ember]

Passive quelling is now in line with FS so if you are used to using the FS (me) then the changes doesn’t feel that bad

[patent steeple]

antax? which weapon was that again?

[neat summit]

mk 5 axe

[olive ember]

Antax mk 5 combat axe

[patent steeple]

ohhh yeah ok i see

[still hearth]

The only great Combat Axe

[patent steeple]

what about Tactical Axes? i got a yellow tier one from emp gift once...

[still hearth]

They're not as good I'd say.

[near wyvern]

Left one. Replace +1 stamina with +flak or +crit chance, up to you. Warp flurry does not currently work on purge but purge is not very dependant on it.

So either sit with the warp flurry and wait for a fix so you can roll T4 warp nexus instead of T3 or replace the warp flurry with whatever you like. I would sit and wait since it's not a big deal.

[olive ember]

Tactical axes are Good on crit zealot but on psyker the flat damage of the combat axe is better

If you want mobility you are better off using the combat knife iirc

Or dueling sword

[loud girder]

i saw people keep complaining about psyker being weak or the worst atm (?) any particular reason

i have no clue i just came back for this patch

[olive ember]

Nerf after nerf after nerf

Well

“Bug fix” after “bug fix” after “bug fix”

[loud girder]

okay so is psyker.. bad now? or

i dont understand

[surreal portal]

Warp charge stacking was a great change.

[leaden thunder]

it got a nerf this patch for some reason

[surreal portal]

(that is, not expiring outright but only losing one stack)

[leaden thunder]

but got a solid buff last patch

[surreal portal]

But otherwise it's been very much not great.

[leaden thunder]

I wouldn't say psyker is bad per say

[olive ember]

Passive quell on non force is now same as FS

[leaden thunder]

but it's worse then other classes mechanically

[olive ember]

It’s jank af but a good psyker is rly good

[leaden thunder]

^

[olive ember]

If you go on Reddit well… they are some interesting takes

[loud girder]

mkay well is lightning staff any good? its pretty much the only staff i like

[olive ember]

It’s meta

[leaden thunder]

a good psyker can still make damnation feel like sedition

[olive ember]

Along with purge

[loud girder]

purge? i thought trauma is best

[olive ember]

I think funnily enough voidstrike is the weakest rn

[leaden thunder]

[surreal portal]

And if you're back after a while you might've missed the patch where they made the lightning staff possibly cause epilepsy, so there's that.

[loud girder]

at least thats what newtypebtw said

[olive ember]

Who?

[leaden thunder]

I was gonna say

who

Trauma is fine

but it's not the best by a long shot

[loud girder]

huh okay

[olive ember]

Trauma is good Cuz it brings some horde damage with good CC

[leaden thunder]

i'd say purge is the best mechanically

[olive ember]

Purge for amazing horde clear

[leaden thunder]

because it has unlimited cleave

[near wyvern]

It's not bad, it's just people think psyker are extremely weak, where as if you really get into it it's strong AF. For a long time there were these mechanics (kinetic deflection, deflector, non force auto quelling) which were left in place for so long people got used to it so it feels bad when they take it away.

Psyker is in no way weak, not even after the nerfs. It's just that it's a hard class to get into and given the recent changes I am still unsure why fatshark gave psyker any guns in the first place.

[loud girder]

so trauma + axe/knife is the meta?

[olive ember]

Psyker also requires the most investment to make good tbh

Out the gate it feels either like a Garbo vet or a Garbo zealot

[surreal portal]

That's my main beef personally, I came into psyker specifically aiming (har har) for a gunpsyker.

[loud girder]

i see

[olive ember]

You gotta invest to make it good but if you invest it’s RLY good

Imo

[slow karma]

gunpsyker will be its own subclass later. Trust.

[surreal portal]

Are we sure they're doing it that way?

[leaden thunder]

melee beef psyker next hopefully

[surreal portal]

Might be a fresh level to 30.

[leaden thunder]

force greatswords please

[slow karma]

We're not sure of anything but I'd rather err on the side of hope than stay mad like most of this place

[olive ember]

It’s also a thing that psyker is typically the support player so probably appeals less than pew pew vet or unga bunga ogryn and zealot

[surreal portal]

And yeah, melee psyker makes more sense as the next psyker class thematically / lore-blah.

[slow karma]

it's exhausting being so irritable all the time

[leaden thunder]

next is probably the beef psyker that got data mined

[olive ember]

Beef psyker?

[leaden thunder]

then after that who knows

seemed to be a defensive melee psyker

iirc

it got data mined alongside gunlugger ogryn, excoriator zealot, and squad leader vet

[surreal portal]

I bought (well, used the premium edition currency on) that spiffy military coat for the psyker week 1, so by dadgum I hope I have a reason to use the class later.

[olive ember]

I’m assuming we will have all the subclasses leveled

[maiden wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077347899538673817/1078080856477941910/Darktide_Gigachad_Meme.png

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-skull-emoji-sus-smile-gif-25113334

[austere estuary]

what are the nerfs we received in this patch?

[slow karma]

Non-force passive quelling

[austere estuary]

just the non force wep stuff?

[slow karma]

Other than that, nothing

[olive ember]

Mfw my surge FS using ass is celebrating that my equipment didn’t get touched

[austere estuary]

my fs got stroooonk

[olive ember]

They actually buffed me this patch

Cuz the staff quell is better now

[forest coral]

FS playstyles got stroong

[long orchid]

If you relied on passive quelling to play pyker then idk what to tell you before and after the nerf

[vagrant furnace]

i dont get the "psyker is a support class" tbh, every class right now is a support class without their meta weapons

[leaden thunder]

psyker with surge is 100% a support class

[vagrant furnace]

playing purgatus sure doesnt feel like playing a support class

[leaden thunder]

now with purge or other ones

[cursive crest]

Does "block efficiency" perk works for Deflector blessing on FS ?

[slow karma]

It should now

[forest coral]

Well the normal weapon passive quelling was kind of nice, just relies on staff to have a decent stat there now

[frigid burrow]

Haven't logged in for the day but did they remove the passive quell on non-warp weapons? Thought the note said it was 'normalized' which I assume meant just got slower

[forest coral]

Well it basically meant that the non warp weapons dont automatically have max quell speed a few moments after swap

[safe crystal]

Normalized apparently meant putting it on the same level as other force weapons

[frigid burrow]

It sounds like it was busted before

[leaden thunder]

it wasn't

[olive ember]

Normalized as in as slow as force weapons now

[forest coral]

Wasn't busted

[grand bolt]

"unintended" would prob be the way I would word it

[safe crystal]

Not really busted, it had its own niche

[forest coral]

but it made it fairly strong paired with quietitude

It was extremely strong for a day or so when toughness regen became a thing

[leaden thunder]

that toughness regen bug was around for way longer then a day

[frigid burrow]

Toughness regen was the funniest thing I ever saw

[forest coral]

yeah

[frigid burrow]

[grand bolt]

it wasn't OP, but it was unintended

and it caused a playstyle to emerge they hadn't intended and didn't like

i didn't use it

my main gripe is it's still effectively a nerf to a class with already a relatively high skill floor that takes away a viable option that existed, further restricting things to force weapons for most psykers....

which sucks when there's literally only 5 of them, and only 1 of them is melee, there's less viable build diversity again

[frigid marten]

it's a nerf to the tankness

[forest coral]

yeah, pushes you toward FS more but In no way is it unplayable to use non warp melees

[olive ember]

I mean FS is still a niche weapon and combat axes are still the meta

Passive quell changes won’t fix it, just makes FS more appealing I suppose

[forest coral]

I wouldnt call FS niche but i agree for the axes

[grand bolt]

i like my deflector too much, and I got to put it on my higherst powered sword now toooooo (after having to use a worse one that had deflector for months)

[frigid marten]

push attack Caxe can still clear hordes safe

[olive ember]

Well niche in the sense that you kinda have to know how to use it

Compared to the axe unga bunga

[forest coral]

FS is amazing but it really needs good stats and blessings

[surreal portal]

'Normalized' is technically accurate in that all weapons have (either hidden or not) a quelling stat.

Only staves actually can get better than 0% now. Previously non-force weapons were 100%, FS was 0%, and staves were... also 0% I think?

[forest coral]

diff between slaughterer and 75%+ on FS and another that doesnt meet that stat is night and day

[grand bolt]

i got 4% quell on weakspot hit on it and deflector, at 366 with decent roll, i am le happy man

[olive ember]

Prob wanna swap the quell for slaughterer imo

[forest coral]

yeah, not sure about the quell but can never really go wrong with deflect

[rocky cedar]

I don't think I can bring myself to play Psyker till they revert or at least soften the non force weapons nerf

[cursive crest]

So what would be the good blessing to look for for each staff ?

[west stream]

I will keep using pistol and dueling

yolo

[rocky cedar]

Building high peril with trauma then spending the majority of my time in melee was my favourite way to play Psyker by far

[olive ember]

Warp nexus and terrifying barrage for both purge and surge staff

[rocky cedar]

Never liked force sword

Never liked super heavy staff use with lots of venting

My playstyle just got removed from the game for no reason

Feels real bad

[forest coral]

I wouldnt say removed

just requires alot more active staff quelling

[olive ember]

Now you know what deflector revivers went through

[rocky cedar]

I said that sucked at the time too

[rocky cedar]

Yes removed

The whole point of the playstyle was to get aggressive in melee rather than active vent

That's literally not an option anymore

It's like 1/5 of the previous quell speed or something

[grand bolt]

it literally is an option with a force sword with peril vent on weakspot hit

[leaden thunder]

[leaden thunder]

"repeated"

[olive ember]

To be fair if you want to run melee psyker FS isn’t the play XD

[rocky cedar]

Did you miss the whole section about how I've never liked force sword and it was the non force weapon playstyle that was deleted?

[forest coral]

thats force sword exclusive tho right

[rocky cedar]

Yes it is

[grand bolt]

"The whole point of the playstyle was to get aggressive in melee rather than active vent"

you can do that with a force sword

[rocky cedar]

So literally couldn't be more irrelevant to what I'm saying

[leaden thunder]

it's also not a great blessing anyway

[rocky cedar]

What part of I don't like force sword don't you understand?

[leaden thunder]

if it was baked in sure

but since it has to compete with sluaghterer and deflector

among other things

[grand bolt]

it literally is an option, just not with the previous unintended mechanic

[grand bolt]

i am responding to this

it LITERALLY is an option

[rocky cedar]

Ok but not with the whole slew of weapons I actually enjoyed playing

So no the playstyle as I previously enjoyed it is indeed gone

[austere estuary]

man brunt's armory feels like a scam seems nearly all are awful rolls

though at least it'sa gold sink

[grand bolt]

yes, and I even broadly agree that taking away viable play styles on an already high skill floor class is bad

i am just responding to you saying it's literally not an option. it is

[leaden thunder]

you aren't reading

[rocky cedar]

Not an option on non force weapons

Can you stop being so pedantic now?

[leaden thunder]

the playstyle of using non force weapons to passivle quell was removed

[rocky cedar]

Nobody enjoys arguing semantics endlessly

Also nerfs gun Psyker which is beyond hilarious

[grand bolt]

you're both missing the point though. you can do exactly what you want to do, just with a different weapon. They didn't remove the PLAYSTYLE they removed access to it with some (too many) weapons

ideally we get other force-weapons for the melee slot to help alleviate the issue

[leaden thunder]

I believe you are missing the point

the point is the NON FORCE WEAPONS

again that blessing is also competing with way better ones anyway

[grand bolt]

but at that point you're a toddler saying you're hungry but don't want THAT food

[austere estuary]

what

[forest coral]

wat

[grand bolt]

and that fatshark is leaving you to starve

[austere estuary]

collective wat moment

[leaden thunder]

sure man

[austere estuary]

like I am a certified Force Sword Enjoyer but not hard to see it's a bit rubbish that there's less effective choice in weapons now

[grand bolt]

i totally agree with that statement, I have said so multiple times

[rocky cedar]

Really entitled of me to want to play any of the myriad other weapons than force sword and have them have baked in differences

Are you high with these comments?

I guess it was indeed unintended but that's hilarious because I thought it was a really smart way to differentiate non force weapons and force weapons, both melee and ranged

Turns out it was a happy accident I guess

[grand bolt]

i'm gonna walk at this point, i'm not making myself clear enough or something is getting missed. I'll leave it on the part of this we all agree on

removing viable playstyles without adding anything that makes things better is bad

[austere estuary]

yeah I thought it was a great way to give each weapon type their place

[leaden thunder]

yep

[olive ember]

Comon don’t fight guys

This isn’t darktide Reddit

[rocky cedar]

Blocking while reviving was once an unintended feature

[leaden thunder]

bro have you been in here when the gunker guy is on

[rocky cedar]

Fatshark is good at making good mechanics accidentally

[leaden thunder]

it devolves really quick as soon as their is a disagreement

[austere estuary]

amazing autocorrect

[rocky cedar]

I think it's wound down now anyway

[austere estuary]

made my way through just a portion of my now pointless melee weapons

[rocky cedar]

I'm super salty at the moment though can't lie

[austere estuary]

and am over 300k up

hoo, to think

if I hadn't horded them, I'd be clicking grey items a few more times

[olive ember]

Good takes only in psyker discord. Bad takes in darktide Reddit kekw

[leaden thunder]

there have been a lot of bad takes in here

[olive ember]

Shhhh

Lalalalala

[rocky cedar]

Gonna be bad takes everywhere what you gonna do

[austere estuary]

wonder if they'll give us a 'sell back' button on the grey item store

since that's what happens to most of them

[rocky cedar]

That'd be nice

And incredibly obviously desirable

[leaden thunder]

ogryn chat is pretty bad take free nowadays

[austere estuary]

also a nice 'buy 10' button

oh ho

not awful

[olive ember]

They ran all the shield ogryns out

[leaden thunder]

or converted them

[olive ember]

Madge they don’t appreciate my shield ogryn

[leaden thunder]

I don't either( only half joking)

[olive ember]

Everyone calls psyker weak but my hot take is that the class that provides the least in a game is actually zealot

😄

[leaden thunder]

yes and no

I'd say psyker is the most mechanically weak

[forest coral]

When a random join shield ogryn holds up their shield in the middle of a horde in hi intense damnation and do nothing else (they are helping)

[leaden thunder]

a good zealot can do a lot, but a good psyker makes the game easy mode

but zealot is a stronger class

[floral solstice]

i can only do sedition high intensity true trio

[austere estuary]

btw what's with the weird new costs for consecrate

[leaden thunder]

can you perceive it tho

[austere estuary]

all totally non round amounts

[leaden thunder]

depends on rating now I think

[austere estuary]

ohhhhh

that's actually kinda neat

still, nearly 350 to get this thing to blue that I don't have

[leaden thunder]

I feel that

[austere estuary]

back to the plasteel mines with me

[olive ember]

Just run damnation

[austere estuary]

I do

last run got me like

250 or so

[leaden thunder]

I am gonna start doing that, (not on my psyker tho)

[austere estuary]

250 a mission is pretty low imo

[leaden thunder]

my anxiety made me spooked to do damn

[austere estuary]

I figured worst case scenario we wipe

[leaden thunder]

but I did one earlier and it was easier then hi t4

[olive ember]

I believe if you can get up to 805 right

[austere estuary]

yeah it's def easier than hi 4

[olive ember]

Per damnation run

[austere estuary]

805 sounds nice

[leaden thunder]

esp since they seem to have jacked the special spawns in hi t4

maybe for all high ints

[austere estuary]

hooo, I love how the new charges make aura reallllly good now

[leaden thunder]

or the ai director is just on some shit

[austere estuary]

oh they buffed lacerations too

nice for monsters or boss I guess

[high agate]

Are curios not going to get the same treatment as weapon reblessing/rolling?

[leaden thunder]

not yet

[olive ember]

Oh yeah I swapped out communion for aura on my surge build

[austere estuary]

oh yeah they technically have blessings don't they

[forest coral]

Since patch ive been getting around 300-500 plasteel a run

not sure how people getting 800 atm

[leaden thunder]

800 is the max

so mega loot gremlin mode

[forest coral]

yeah but h o w

[olive ember]

Checking every crevice for spawns I’d assume

[leaden thunder]

not gremlin mode enough

[rocky cedar]

Some of their takes on Zealot still makes me cringe

[leaden thunder]

what's bad is even though I main zealot I sorta agree sometimes

but most of those are from choco

his whole thing is being aggressively decisive most the time

[olive ember]

If you want bad takes just go to Reddit

Those takes are something else

[leaden thunder]

the ogryn takes on reddit are

sheild good you are a toxic gatekeeper if you say it's bad

[rocky cedar]

"Zealot is only good at single target"

[olive ember]

But

Shield is good

I have my malice ogryn to prove it

[forest coral]

I will be a toxic gate keeper

[leaden thunder]

I think unironically my enjoyment of ogryn went up dramatically when I stopped using the shield

[olive ember]

Non force weapons are dead now guys

Reddit told me so

[forest coral]

Force sword is the worst weapon in the game guys please buff

[leaden thunder]

the best buff you could do to the fs

is add a force greatsword to use instead

[forest coral]

meanwhile majority of psykers I meet in damn are either running FS, axe or duelling swords

and the ones who clutch hardest are usually fs or ds

[olive ember]

It’s gonna be a heavy sword but worse because it’s gotta be balanced for it’s quirky force stab special

[near gale]

Did they fix warp flurry?

[olive ember]

No still only works on voidstrike

[leaden thunder]

I thought it was truama that it worked on

[olive ember]

It works on both actually

Just not a lot of people used trauma until recently

Doesn’t work on the ones that matter tho (surge and purge)

[leaden thunder]

tbf those are the two Ifeel the need for charge speed on the least

[daring nexus]

Both would be insane with extra charge speed

[leaden thunder]

I rarely full charge them tbh

doesn't increase the damage of purge

[daring nexus]

That’s part of why it would be good, you’d just charge them up in like half the time

[leaden thunder]

and idk if it changes much other then damage for surge

[daring nexus]

Think about what it would do to a room of 20 scabs

[olive ember]

Surge damage would be p good with extra charge speed against armored targets

Which would be maulers and scabs

And purge charge speed just means more pew pew

[daring nexus]

Yea to be near constantly spraying fire with both staffs seems like exactly what they would want to be doing

[leaden thunder]

don't get me wrong it'd be good

but the void and trauma are much more reliant on the full charge

that's more what I mean when I say I feel the need for charge speed on the other 2 less

[forest coral]

support main staff unlocked

[near gale]

Question: Which dueling sword is better? I'm not really sure, myself. The right one has lower damage and with the dueling sword being good for hordes... the poxwalker damage on the left one is at least useful.

[leaden thunder]

precog is poop

[near gale]

I can reroll it, if the 2nd blessing is good

[forest coral]

Youll want rampage on the sword eventually

Also get MKV or II

problem with IV is the heavy stabs kill a bit too slowly

[near gale]

I really like the IV because, unlike in vermintide 2, I am actually better with the stab heavies

[forest coral]

MKV chops will 3 shot muties and 2 shot most other human elites

[near gale]

also the 3rd light attack being a strikedown makes you need to use more focus on the 5

and I absolutely hate the heavies on the 2

[forest coral]

well sure if thats your preferred style

[dawn orchid]

Wrack and ruin is worth using now, nice

Applies on hit instead of on kill, although the tooltip hasn't been changed yet according to the patch notes

[safe crystal]

Its still shit

[rocky cedar]

Still seems pretty bad

[near gale]

I've been using my trusty antox v, for most of my recent games.

[rocky cedar]

It should just be replaced with something interesting

[safe crystal]

Its tied to BB which is slow, and only counts on elites

[near gale]

I use it for a horde weapon, since it has bromentum, and since I generally use the surge staff

[dawn orchid]

It's only bb?

[rocky cedar]

You and everyone else

[dawn orchid]

Lemme take a look at it again

[forest coral]

hue

[floral solstice]

it's still shit

[dawn orchid]

Oh you right

I totally missed that part

Yeah it's still shit

[forest coral]

also decent Force sword and slaughterer is kinda juiced

[near gale]

I, honestly, prefer the dueling sword IV myself for hordes, but, the antox V that I bought from melk has just been so useful that I haven't used a dueling sword in a long while now... also the antox has more base stamina so my +3 stamina gives me even more stamina, for making block peril generate less peril.

I've been loving the +3 stamina curio I have ever since they fixed stamina curios

[leaden thunder]

tbh sluaghterer makes any weapon at least decent

[forest coral]

yeah

[leaden thunder]

even the mk4 ogryn knife

and that thing is shite

[forest coral]

but especially on the fs since it turns the stagger on your heavy attacks up

[near gale]

Does the dueling sword get slaughterer?

[forest coral]

nope

[near gale]

That's what I thought

[forest coral]

only rampage which is also very good

[leaden thunder]

that's why rampage got buffed

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1190df3/passive_peril_quell_comparison/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[near gale]

Does the Antox get Rampage?

[leaden thunder]

it get headtaker/decimator

[forest coral]

here my dude

use this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[leaden thunder]

and has stupid high base damage

[forest coral]

you can check possible blessings on every weapon

[near gale]

Thank you very much

[leaden thunder]

gameslantern is mostly correct

It may be entirely correct now

[forest coral]

its being maintained that much i know

but to be fair

on antaxV all you really need is BM for blessing

anything else is a cherry on top

[leaden thunder]

pretty much

[forest coral]

back to topic of FS tho

[floral solstice]

just noticed

[forest coral]

the diagonal slice of the heavy basically feels like antaxe swing

[floral solstice]

i think they changed medicae voice too

[leaden thunder]

they did

[forest coral]

I think staggers around 7 basic melee units iirc but usually kills 2

with slaughterer can keep medium sized horde at bay

[cold geode]

they added another medica voice, you can get either of them

[cursive crest]

and what about void and trauma ? 😀

[olive ember]

Don’t use em as much and I think there’s a lot more viable perks for void and trauma

The two standout for void last I checked was one which reduced peril on weakspot hit and surge perk which is rare AF

[manic halo]

huh? as in its a new VA or it has more lines

[leaden thunder]

I think both

[floral solstice]

voice sounds different to me

compared to old one

not really sure if same lines

[magic burrow]

imagine being psyker and the only relevant weapons for you now are the force staves and the force sword and the shop will never offer them

[olive ember]

Just use an axe

[bleak tulip]

shop is trash now anyways and you can just pick a grey

shop only drops tier 2 blessings

its dead

thank fuck

[austere estuary]

wow what

they nerfed the blessings even?

that's a shame

[olive ember]

Hey voidstrike enjoyer is back

You still use voixstrike?

[austere estuary]

would've been nice to at least peep it for a good blessing to unlock

[bleak tulip]

yesa

until they kill bolt cancel too and take the last bit of fun I have with psyker I guess

[olive ember]

I’m waiting for when they say “infinite dodges on FS is unintended” and then just bury the damn thing underground

[austere estuary]

I just watched a group sit in the final elevator and kill things but then die

sadness

[olive ember]

Wat

How

[austere estuary]

they didn't press the button

[olive ember]

Why

[austere estuary]

mysteries of the universe

[olive ember]

You see this is a skill issue

If you were alive then you could’ve pressed the button

[austere estuary]

exactly what I thought

I'd played pretty well throughout, but died literally at the moment before extraction door opened up and thought ah well at least it's done

ho ho

[olive ember]

It’s not done until you see the mission extract screen

Should’ve learned via extraction crashes months ago kek

[austere estuary]

ain't that the truth

thank goodness we at least get some of the plasteel we looted now

[olive ember]

Thank fuck

[austere estuary]

the most soul crushing thing before was getting nearly nothing after a whole damnation mission if failed near the end

also rng did nice for me

(I like warp flurry)

melk pls

[manic halo]

does warp flurry work now

[austere estuary]

it worked on voidstrike since forever

[olive ember]

Nope

[austere estuary]

also works on trauma now

[bleak tulip]

it worked before it just doesnt stack without spamming hard

[austere estuary]

but only really useful on void

[olive ember]

Still only works on voidstrike and traumas

[austere estuary]

you don't need to spam to get the first stack, which on void is worth usually more than going to 100% in speed

[bleak tulip]

you get some extra charge on void but you dont get the subsequent stacks

[austere estuary]

imo very nice having faster than fastest charge times even with just that one stack

[bleak tulip]

its probably still one of the best blessings on void overall

which is kind of testament to how crap most of them are

[austere estuary]

surge seems like it would be fun, before they nerfed shred crossover

rip

[glass bane]

what is fatsharts problem with pysker they keep taking more and more away this isn't a pvp game

[forest coral]

they are trying to be lore accurate in their persecution of psykers

[pearl delta]

so what blessings are people looking for on purguts? and you want crit on perks right?

[olive ember]

You want warp nexus and terrifying barrage

Warp nexus as a priority

Terrifying barrage cuz everything else is trash

[pearl delta]

melk just showed me this...

pity about the low base power

[olive ember]

Good for transferring perks off tho

And it’s got 78% burn which is what matters

[pearl delta]

and then is deflector still the best weapon pairing?

[forest coral]

Force sword, Antaxe, duelling swords yup

[pearl delta]

(i have deflector 3 earned)

[olive ember]

Depends on the person really

Almost all melee weapons are viable with psyker

[forest coral]

knife can also work as kiting/ monstrosity tool

[olive ember]

The standouts being dueling sword, force sword, antax, and combat knife

Dueling sword and knife for mobility
Antax for horde killing power
FS for utility

[pearl delta]

right. but purge doesnt' need hrode killing right? (i'm a palpetine enthusiast usually)

[olive ember]

Yeah

[forest coral]

Purge is the horde clear

[olive ember]

I mean I use FS with my surge staff so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest coral]

so it will be good to have melee that can compliment it

Ive been using FS with everything these days

[bleak tulip]

FS is just kind of the best because it can roll slaughterer

[forest coral]

decent horde control, nukes elites, reliably kills carapace, has infinite dodge for weird mobility and its non force attack heavies are decent

[long wharf]

What the hell is up with Sour Milk tonight?

[olive ember]

Who?

Oh

[long wharf]

First time I'm seeing t2 blessings on legendary items

[bleak tulip]

he bought it from the store and upgraded it

[long wharf]

For fuck's sake, Sour Milk shouldn't be selling t2 blessings on legendary gear

[olive ember]

Ik they nerfed shop but did that affect melk

[long wharf]

it seems like it, but then this is just the first daily rollover

none of my characters have a t4 blessing in Sour Milk's shop

though that's normal for me

[red forum]

hey, anybody know whether Deflector (bullet blocking) for the Force Sword (psyker) has to be randomly rolled on an orange upgrade, or can the blessing also roll on a blue upgrade (the first quality that receives a blessing)?

[long wharf]

it has t1-t4 versions

so you can see it on any roll blue and up

[cyan notch]

blew 30k plasteel for bloodthirsty didnt get it

[long wharf]

oof

[forest coral]

[cyan notch]

got t4 slaughtere and blazing spirit so thats some consolation

[forest coral]

Is blazing spirit even good right now though

but T4 Slaughterer, im jealous

[fresh steeple]

I found it, Psykers

I finally found it

[long wharf]

nice

[fresh steeple]

so excited to try the fabled Surge blessing

[forest coral]

is it like

[fresh steeple]

just in time for me to have to use staves all the time anyway because they gutted my Antax Mk V quelling

[forest coral]

two shots of lmb attack or the charged attacks

[fresh steeple]

I'm about to find out. It is, after all, a fable blessing

[ornate hamlet]

Are there just as many noobs in here crying about the passive quelling FIX as it is on Reddit?

[forest coral]

well, here more like dissatisfaction more than crying really

[fresh steeple]

it doubles any critical attack with a second instance that may or may not also be critical

left or right mouse

[cyan notch]

its understandable tho cuz fs left it in for so long people got used to it

just like zealot ult whenever it gets nerfed

[forest coral]

yeah

[safe crystal]

Im going to need a test on the RMB, because thats not how it used to be.

[forest coral]

to be fair, it wasnt even overpowered

[fresh steeple]

yeah, "FIX" or not, they removed my Haymaker OHKO ability on Ogryns today for my Zealot

which is literally the ONLY reason you'd want Haymaker in the first place

it was in the game for three months, it worked just fine

[ornate hamlet]

on reddit its like 1200 people didn't know how to be a space wizard

[fresh steeple]

maybe it was a "fix" on their end, but on my end it's just a clear nerf that absolutely ruins an entire blessing

passive quelling on non-force weapons sure SEEMED like it was a deliberate tradeoff for not being able to run Deflector blessing

and made non-force weapons worth using

now there is literally zero reason to run them over a Force Sword with Deflector, excepting perhaps Mk II Duelling Sword because of its good cleave and dodge abilities

[cyan notch]

lol

[fresh steeple]

whether or not it's a "fix" doesn't change the fact that as a practical matter, it's heavily nerfed a lot of the Psyker's weapon options

and now compels manual quelling in many instances where previously uou could swap to melee and still be useful to a team

I'm not really whining about it, per se. In fact I just popped into this channel for the first time in a month because of the Surge pickup and mentioned that offhandedly

but it's assuredly a practical nerf to our weapon kit. It doesn't make the class useless, but suggesting that it's some sort of irrelevant little quirk and it's shocking for anyone to be bothered is kind of silly to me. Fix or not, it's still also a nerf.

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly I see it as FS making people play the class the right way. And the only downside is switching to either a force sword or staff to quell on.

[grand bolt]

the downside is that the class already has a high skill floor, and limited build options, this nerfed one of the only alternate options without replacing it with other "intended" options

[ornate hamlet]

you could still take your choice of one non space wizard weapon

[grand bolt]

there's literally only one melee weapon that is space-wizard-as-intended

[ornate hamlet]

I don't really think psyk has a high skill floor even in high intensity damnation.

[grand bolt]

i have each class to 30, and play pretty much only 4's and 5's and the anount of moment to moment optimization a psyker has to do compared to a veteran or zealot is huge. A bad psyker is way worse than a bad veteran.

[leaden thunder]

that's for true

[maiden wolf]

I keep quoting the duck test at people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test

[ornate hamlet]

its just the quelling that is the issue, sure watching the peril is there but its easy to manage, sound fx big visual indicator. I'll give you this, it is more technical than the others but its not that big a deal.

[maiden wolf]

I really hope they introduce some alternative non-force synergies to compensate if they don't end up reverting the nerf.

[long wharf]

interesting

[maiden wolf]

The toughness regen from quietude and ability to defend one's-self while quelling are important too!

[long wharf]

a mission just had an alternate route

not a big one, but it was there

assassination (the easy one)

[floral solstice]

yeah a bunch of maps had small changes

[leaden thunder]

the one with the ascender

[long wharf]

right

[leaden thunder]

ye I noticed that as well

I think one of the throne side maps also got a new med station

or I just have never looked over where it is

[long wharf]

mk v combat axe still slaps

[leaden thunder]

it technically got buffed

meanwhile

[long wharf]

oh?

[leaden thunder]

the rashad still broke

hte special on the antax got a minor buff

as well as limpshitter being made less shit

Antax Mk V Combat Axe Weapon Special Action stab; increased Finesse multiplier (applies to any combinations of Weakspot / Critical Damage as a percentage of Base Damage) range from 40%-80% to 40-150%.

[silk flax]

Siblings. Need help. Which one? Right or left.

[ornate hamlet]

I say left

[silk flax]

Thanks

[long wharf]

is everyone else getting an emperor's gift every mission now?

16 missions available... none of them grims

oh nevermind, there is one

a hi-intensity heresy

[leaden thunder]

yeah

[restive slate]

Psyker no longer quells peril superfast on nonwarp weapons?

[rose lily]

did fatshark fix warp flurry on purg staff?

[north cradle]

What perks should I be looking for on a Power Sword? Not Force Sword, Power Sword. Flak and Maniac as usual?

[novel gazelle]

isn't the power sword a Veteran exclusive weapon?

[north cradle]

Ya but I don't want to visit #veteran-class

[lucid terrace]

Worst class chat

[novel gazelle]

im not too keen on what blessings are good with the power sword specifically but I really like the Cleave one personally

[north cradle]

Deadarse

Perks, not blessings. Power Cycler is basically the best-in-slot

[leaden thunder]

flak + maniac is fine

[rose lily]

did fatshark fix warp flurry on purg staff?

[novel gazelle]

my bad i got mixed up lol

[north cradle]

Honestly I wish they'd be called Modifiers and Perks/Blessings, but Modifiers refer to the stats, instead of being the Stats

[novel gazelle]

i can see why that would be pretty confusing

[north cradle]

I actually want to give Supercharge a try instead of Slaughterer

Hmm I have a +25% Carapace and a T3 Supercharge so that might actually work out okay. I'll keep rolling for Flak on the other perk

Can replace Wrath with Power Cycler

IF I HAD ONE

[novel gazelle]

pain

reminds me of when i was grinding for Deflector on my force sword

i never saw that blessing once until today

[rocky cedar]

Power sword with slaughterer is so dumb

You don't even need to turn it on

[novel gazelle]

the power sword is intoxicating

once i started leveling veteran and got my hands on that thing

[restive slate]

So is supercharge not necessary on powersword?

Currently have supercharge and slaughterer but I wanna get power cycler

[novel gazelle]

power cycler seems nutty

[compact mural]

Nothing in patch notes and I haven't noticed it working on mine.

[long wharf]

no

warp flurry wasn't fixed on purge nor surge

[rose lily]

cheers

[rose lily]

cheers

[shadow wigeon]

Thanks just came here to ask 😮

[maiden wolf]

Yes I spent an hour photoshopping this.

I can send anyone the template if they want it

[rocky cedar]

Seems like an obvious and intelligent design choice?

Lol it's a bug

That lasted 3 months so everyone assumed that's how it's meant to be

[forest coral]

Fat shark doesn’t want the funny space wizards touching dirty mundane weapons

[wet jacinth]

Passive quelling. Nah.

[forest coral]

[wet jacinth]

They tryna fix the Pox Hound Space program

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[forest coral]

I would like pox hound space program to remain

[shadow wigeon]

Godspeed doggo

[hot zephyr]

Siblings, what is the general reaction to today's patch so far? I've been away from keeping up with the patches for a few weeks since the big balance/buff patch a a while ago

My initial read is passive quell is sadface now, but not much else really changes for us?

[maiden wolf]

BOOOO! The crafting was nice, but the quell nerfs destroyed most of the builds I was going to make with it!

[forest coral]

Everything was great at the cost of mundane melee playstyles getting cucked

[shadow wigeon]

bingo

[long wharf]

sorry, but I knew all along that the passive quell on the non-force weapons was going to get fixed

[cyan notch]

you just have to wait longer whats the big deal

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, it was kinda broken.

[cyan notch]

its not like ur weapon is useless

[long wharf]

it was very broken, and didn't make sense, mechanically nor lore-wise

[forest coral]

I personally don’t mind it too much since I staff quell most of the time anyway

But I think it broke a lot of flow for people

[maiden wolf]

You don't get the benefits of quietude as quickly

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, even I'll admit the passive quell was really fast. To know now it was literally always running at max-speed actually makes sense. I could barely mag-dump an autogun before it would passive quell to zero

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah it was silly. To the point where slowing it down you can amost leverage it more for something. Stretch that shield out a bit longer.

[forest coral]

Toughness regen speed might be something to consider for quietitude now

[long wharf]

it definitely has made quietude less of an appealing feat

[forest coral]

At least this is what I’m proposing to deal with loss of the speed

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, I was thinking this too, makes KS a bit more viable or running a non-force weapon on a KS build more viable

[cyan notch]

i thought everyone ran toughness regen after the buff

[long wharf]

I was running toughness regen before the buff

[forest coral]

Well if they weren’t

Definitely worth considering now

I was doing a few damnation runs yesterday

Can’t say the nerf is that bad honestly

[long wharf]

god damn it

fuck you Sour Milk, fuck you right in the ass

[forest coral]

Just need to be more proactive with staff quells

[long wharf]

I gambled with "Sour Milk Knows Best"

[forest coral]

Or like quell 15% before switching to melee

[shadow wigeon]

KS = Kinetic Deflector? I was always running it with non-force weapon. Now it's a bit more balanced, and you're better off with your staff out, which feels more thematic.

[forest coral]

Some thing like that

[shadow wigeon]

Passive staff quell is pretty good.

[long wharf]

Kinetic Shield is the feat that gives you toughness DR based on peril

[shadow wigeon]

ohhhh, righht.

[hot zephyr]

Kinetic Shield. The one that reduces ranged damage by 10%-33% based on peril

[wet jacinth]

[long wharf]

even without quietitude, KD is basically a must-have feat for that column

[shadow wigeon]

Hmm. That's interesting. KD still feel very strong though.

[long wharf]

KD was made better in the patch

[shadow wigeon]

twas?

[long wharf]

because now it factors in your peril resistance

aka inner tranquility

[shadow wigeon]

oh no

I don't think it needed a buff but dang.

[forest coral]

I’ve stopped using inner tranquility

[long wharf]

I reported it as a bug

[forest coral]

[long wharf]

they acknowledged and then added it

[wet jacinth]

When psyker daemonhost subclass

[hot zephyr]

Holy christ. Sour Milk's items are like all 340+ for me now.

[long wharf]

I think with the quell speed changes in the last patch, IT is even more important now

[hot zephyr]

They aren't all literal garbage

What a difference

[long wharf]

the blessings are trash though

[cyan notch]

ive got a few t4s show up

[long wharf]

and we shouldn't be buying trash with limited access currency

not me today

[forest coral]

right now

:>

[cyan notch]

yea melk gambling isnt worth it with brunts armory now

and with unlimited emp gifts

[long wharf]

I'm one or two runs away from seeing how Hadron screws me over on this

[forest coral]

What’s wrong with that staff

Looks good to me

[long wharf]

other than I won't be able to put warp nexus 3 on it?

we're going to see

[cyan notch]

depends how badly you need the other blessing

warp nexus is good enough for me

[untold isle]

what do you guys run for curios, toughness or health? also i know the solution is to get gud, but is one wound curio still useful for damnation?

[cyan notch]

it definitely can be

[hot zephyr]

I tend to run +1 wound cus I find I get teammates who don't always clear before reviving you and sometimes you'll re-drop cus they revive you in a crappy spot

I think I'll end up running Health/Stam/Wound as curios once I refit for the newest changes

[forest coral]

health scales better with psyker so generally better to stack it. Not uncommon for players running with one extra wound tho

[shadow wigeon]

Wound is reasonable but you can wean yourself off of it, potentially.

[untold isle]

gotcha, makes sense.

[hot zephyr]

You can definitely argue +1 wound can be a crutch, but if it saves your bacon once in a while that's what curios are for. The number of times I survived something on below the difference between 150-180hp that a +20% health curio gives you locked that as a must-have for me

But honestly, run what works for you

[untold isle]

i'm still a bit lost since it's been quite a while since i played the game lol

what are the bis curio perks now? is toughness regen speed good even though they buffed the base regen speed?

[forest coral]

Yep tough regen is very decent to have as a secondary stat

I personally run it at 45%

[hot zephyr]

Good to know, my +1 wound curio happens to have +30% toughness regen on it. 🙂

[leaden thunder]

toughness regen big pog

[cyan notch]

i run 90% regen

[leaden thunder]

I can't run without it anymore

on any class

[forest coral]

Regen deez

[leaden thunder]

just feels so ass to have to sit and wait for toughness

[forest coral]

but ye, too good to pass up tbh

alot of times saved me from losing any health damage because of how fast it zoomed back up

[fiery bone]

what to replace for deflector

[leaden thunder]

unstable

[forest coral]

unstable

[cyan notch]

cmon bruh

[leaden thunder]

every day of the week

[cyan notch]

is that even a real question

[fiery bone]

no

i lied

[cyan notch]

[hot zephyr]

BIS play is to earn blessing on Unstable Power on that, let Hadron have it. 😛

[untold isle]

i really enjoy the devil's claw but someone shittalked me earlier for using it lol

[hot zephyr]

Hadron is gunna need a few more arms the number of blessings I'll be ripping off, been saving a few good ones

[forest coral]

devil claw is decent tho

[untold isle]

the mk1

it's pretty good against hordes I feel

[hot zephyr]

That person was a moron. Claw is great if you need something to clear trash

[forest coral]

^

its good pairing if u got kinetic barrage or a staff that isnt purgatus

[leaden thunder]

tbh I can see it if they mainly play zealot

[cyan notch]

devils claw isnt top tier but u can make it work with blessings especially savage sweep

[north cradle]

Check out this beast I found

[leaden thunder]

becuase claw is dodo ass on zealot and vet

or well

[forest coral]

on which class tho

[leaden thunder]

is just way worse then alternatives

[north cradle]

Veteran, but I'd be cool with this on Gun Psyker

[leaden thunder]

but psyker doesn't have an equivalent to the claw really

so it's alright on them

[forest coral]

the emperor has deemed ur vet to the most vanilla guardsman possible

put on that cadia drip

[cyan portal]

Is there any consensus on bis purga staff blessings?

[forest coral]

[cyan notch]

rare to see xii vets nowadays

[north cradle]

I just got 20% Unyielding and T3 Deadly Accurate

[cyan notch]

ive seen so many bolters

[forest coral]

bolter vets are like a gacha game

the performance between top end volter and average bolter vet is ridiculous

[rose lily]

what are the best blessings for surge staff?

[cyan notch]

i get those that full auto into horde

[north cradle]

[whispers in your ear] I also prioritise shooters with Counterfire.

[untold isle]

you think savage sweep is a must have on it? i was about to rebless savage sweep into shred to go along with rampage

[forest coral]

nexus and terrifying barrage imo

is flurry working now? Id probably use flurry on nexus if it is

[leaden thunder]

it doesn't still

[cyan notch]

yeah imo you can slice through so much more

[long wharf]

forget dinner and a movie, that's all I need for a good night

[leaden thunder]

yeah i'd keep savage

shred is good on it if you are running it on crit zealot

but otherwise

[rose lily]

nah 😦

[forest coral]

[untold isle]

what even are good perks for voidstrke? i assume focused channeling is a must have, what else?

[long wharf]

you want surge (t4) if you can get it

transfer peril is #1

[untold isle]

oh, so no need for focused channeling?

i guess its a lot more annoying to get interrupted on flame staff

[long wharf]

not relaly

[nocturne badge]

When your voidstrike channel gets interrupted it fires off the shot (sometimes?) so if you're quick you can stagger whatever hit you

T3/4 transfer peril is a must, the second is between warp nexus and the one that makes charging faster or chained shots

Either are valid

Perks you want flak and unarmored damage

[untold isle]

is this salvageable somehow?

[nocturne badge]

Change terrifying barrage for transfer peril

[forest coral]

I mean its really good already

[untold isle]

i was just worried about blessings

[static epoch]

you really get interrupted using staffs? 😮

isn't that like a 1 in 20 game type situation

[forest coral]

blessings are fine

Terrifying barrage can be switched out but ive found it fairly useful

[rocky cedar]

It can do pretty funny CC on Zealot with impact feat and trauma blessing

Not enough to make it compete with heavy sword but it's decent

I'd go so far as to say good before they nerfed devastating strike for no reason

Instant Ult cooldown goes brrrrrr

[lyric atlas]

so now we dont lose peril faster if we have a non-psyhker weapon out?

[rocky cedar]

Correct

Because fuck gun Psyker

[static epoch]

it's still the second fastest as far as i'm aware

[rocky cedar]

And fuck you for liking normie weapons

[lyric atlas]

so they

nerfed psyker..again?

[rocky cedar]

No

They nerfed non force weapon Psyker

Nerfing Psyker would be nerfing their base kit

Pedantic I know but I don't like mislabeling things

[forest coral]

It's more of inconvenience than a true nerf

but shoehorns non force melee weapons to have to staff quell alot more

[rocky cedar]

No it's absolutely a nerf

Forcing more down time and less aggression is definitely a nerf

It's less time doing things that are effective

[static epoch]

it does make the timings a bit more challenging getting used to a certain playstyle but i wouldn't go as far as to call it a nerf

[untold isle]

headtaker vs decimator?

[rocky cedar]

It literally is though

You can argue it's not a heavy nerf

[static epoch]

agreed

[rocky cedar]

But you literally can't reasonably argue it isn't a nerf

[shadow wigeon]

Well they buffed staff quell, so there's a balance.

[static epoch]

i like it, it's more fun now

[shadow wigeon]

agreed

[rocky cedar]

I'm sure it's more fun if you're a staff junky

As a very melee heavy Psyker player it feels vastly worse to me

[ornate hamlet]

Lol okay

[shadow wigeon]

No I spend most of my time in melee. I still like it.

The passive quell was broken anyway

[static epoch]

yeah same, trauma and knife

[rocky cedar]

How was it broken?

[static epoch]

knockdowns with trauma and backstab to death is so satisfying

[rocky cedar]

I have never heard a single person complain about it before now

[ornate hamlet]

It was actually broken

Not working as intended

[static epoch]

it was really forgiving 😄

[shadow wigeon]

I'm not complaining and it was common knowledge it was kinda broken.

Especially making FS feel bad.

[forest coral]

im not a janky u are

[rocky cedar]

Yes but nobody could tell, I never saw it suggested that was unintended before

[limber silo]

Anyone else notice that Quicken doesn't work?

[rocky cedar]

To repost the meme from earlier

[ornate hamlet]

It was very noticeable and the devs said so

[rocky cedar]

Like I expected it to be tuned down a bit maybe but it's like 5x slower or something now

[limber silo]

Was just showing it to since he was interestied in the game, and tried Quicken for the first time and it just straight up doesn't do anything

[rocky cedar]

That is way overkill

[static epoch]

you can always dodge away switch to staff and quell, for like.... 2 seconds

[rocky cedar]

Yeah but why make it more clunky?

It just feels less smooth now

[static epoch]

perhaps because you are just used to the game being too easy

[rocky cedar]

I feel like a nerd trying to catch my breath rather than a battle mage

[rocky cedar]

Bro you gonna say that with a straight face while Vet exists?

[lyric atlas]

so theres no point

[rocky cedar]

Also don't be a dick

[lyric atlas]

to takinga non peril wep?

[rocky cedar]

I can not enjoy the change in gameplay feel without having an issue with difficulty

[shadow wigeon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1190df3/passive_peril_quell_comparison/

[rocky cedar]

Like come on that is such an insanely bad faith argument to make

[static epoch]

dude chill it was a question

[shadow wigeon]

It's half the speed of max quell now.

[static epoch]

you've had too much internet for today

[rocky cedar]

It wasn't a question don't be a coward

[static epoch]

ok forever bye

[rocky cedar]

You were casting aspersions on my skill and thus my view point

[long wharf]

okay now taking bets

[rocky cedar]

If you're just blocking that really only confirms the coward comment lol

[long wharf]

I'll give 2:1 odds for terrifying barrage

3:1 for run-n-gun

[shadow wigeon]

rungun T3 inc

[static epoch]

run and gun is awesome on purg

[long wharf]

run and gun is terrible period

[shadow wigeon]

It's "fun" on purg... the value is pretty low at high difficulty tho

[static epoch]

yeah yeah 😄 awesome fun

[long wharf]

survey says...

[static epoch]

it's really bad when you are trying to close the gap and you get that one noreg on the single guy trying to shoot you

[long wharf]

Hadron you bitch

welp, time to scrap it

[static epoch]

money back guarantee

[long wharf]

wrong

[shadow wigeon]

what are you aiming for?

[lyric atlas]

is fat shark under the impression that psykers are good?

[static epoch]

psykers are good and the game is easy

[long wharf]

something decent? though there really isn't a make or break blessing for purge

the warp nexus t1 irks me more than anything else

[shadow wigeon]

I am a fan of barrage on purg

To control random mobs that you miss

Does flurry work on purg?

[long wharf]

warp flurry does not yet work on purge

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I do Nexus and Barrage

I don't know if soulblaze procs barrage though, i wonder if you get delayed effects from a soulblaze kill.

[shy warren]

how do we use the emotes? lol

[jolly musk]

Sorry if I misse the boat, but can yall rebless surge staff with warp flurry? Doesn't work for me

[long wharf]

of course you can

[jolly musk]

I must be doing something wrong then

[long wharf]

must be

[jolly musk]

I sacked a weapon, but it doesn't show on surge

[long wharf]

because that's a voidstrike staff

[jolly musk]

that's the one it shows on

it shows fine for voidstrike

but not for surge

[shadow wigeon]

You need to get blessings for each weapon

[long wharf]

because each weapon has to unlock its blessings

[jolly musk]

well damn

[long wharf]

blessings aren't shared between weapons

yep

[jolly musk]

that would explain it

thanks man

[jolly musk]

my next question lol

[shadow wigeon]

Which to commit for voidstrike? I don't really think about crits on void... but is sustained any good?

[static epoch]

hold spacebar

[long wharf]

no sustained is not good

[jolly musk]

awesome. thx

[shadow wigeon]

transfer and flurry for void?

[long wharf]

what the ever loving shit is up with this emote wheel?

it's not tracking the mouse directly at all

it's treating the mouse like a joystick input

[static epoch]

yeah it does not lock your mouse so you have to pan your mouse on the edges of your screen lol

[jolly musk]

same. it's way off

[long wharf]

god damn it FartShart

why is basic competency so damn hard for you?

[static epoch]

it's basically joystick controls but not working at the same time

it's profound

[long wharf]

FartShart confirming all their devs are interns

[jolly musk]

It's all part of the post Beta beta testing experience

[static epoch]

anyone tried brittleness on trauma, it's kind of hard to test how it's going to affect my team

[long wharf]

rending shockwave didn't change

they just fixed the text

it always applied brittleness

[static epoch]

but has anyone made it work, never touched it myself

[long wharf]

what do you mean by "made it work"?

[manic needle]

So what's this I hear about another Psyker nerf?

[long wharf]

you aim (this is the hard part with Trauma), and what you hit starts taking more damage

[long wharf]

FartShart fixed passive quelling for non-force weapons

[jolly musk]

venting on non force weapons

[manic needle]

What was broken about it?

[long wharf]

staves get passive quell speed boosted by their quell speed modifier

it wasn't supposed to be anywhere near as fast as it was

it was at max speed all the time

[manic needle]

Well that's a strange fix but ok

[long wharf]

it was bound to happen, frankly

[jolly musk]

it's a bummer, but not super terrible

[long wharf]

right now, the fastest way to quell is active with a staff

makes quietitude much less effective

[jolly musk]

my dude is just set up to ult a lot lol

[shadow wigeon]

It's only on primary attack. What a sadness hah.

[long wharf]

yeah, the patch didn't address any of the broken psyker blessings

nor the stupidity of what staves get what blessings

[manic needle]

Well yeah why would they fix Psyker in a way that makes it better?

Thats just nonsense

[long wharf]

I can still cut down a horde easily with my mk v combat axe

but you aren't going to block tank anything any more

you can easiliy take a few hits though