psyker-class

[limber silo]

Also the primary for purge staff staggers a little more consisitently imo

good for a quick stun when you're caught off guard

[leaden thunder]

yep

[floral solstice]

purg primary is for staggering ragers and to prevent other smaller stuff from blasting you like shotgunners, yeah

[leaden thunder]

i'd rather it had the same one as the rest tho tbh

or they all have different ones

[limber silo]

me too tbf

[leaden thunder]

it's wierd that its the only different one

[limber silo]

it makes a little sense

[spice veldt]

i assume that surge is the outlier here

[limber silo]

Flamer and Purge staff's weakness is lack of range, so why would staff have a good ranged option?

[spice veldt]

since it makes since for the Equinox staffs to have the ball projectile

[fierce sinew]

Purg left click is dummy stagger, it's much much better than the others

[limber silo]

It has a clear weakness for balance

[leaden thunder]

i'd rather it shoot a little ball of fire or something

but can't have everything

[digital loom]

surge is good for pubbing

if you're having a day with a lack of vets

[limber silo]

surge is phenomenal in all situations

[leaden thunder]

tho the other ones 100% need some extra spice on the primary attack

[limber silo]

bring a decent wave clear melee and youre eating good with surge

[floral solstice]

surge staff blasts have some form of aoe stagger too but in a very small area

[limber silo]

make surge staff shoot a straight line bolt

[lethal folio]

That's just the suppression.

[limber silo]

lightning of course

[fierce sinew]

left click is one of the best things about purge, it stops basically everything that isn't mutant, in a fairly big range, with no target limit like surge has, for very little peril

[floral solstice]

oh does that count as suppresion, guess it is

[fierce sinew]

sends shooters running now, yeah

[floral solstice]

anyway it's pretty hilarious to see sometimes on shooters

i wonder if a significant dps buff on surge would make the staff busted compared to others, i wanna see nutty crit headshots

but w/e we just got buffed instead of nerf so i dont want to be greedy

[leaden thunder]

depends on how significant it is

i'd like it to deal full damaeg to things it chains to

or at least

not drop off super hard really quickly on the chain

[floral solstice]

well i can see it still struggling with hordes but elite groups will be roasted faster

[leaden thunder]

cuase rn the surge is good

but mainly good for like

cc and flak(? right)

doesn't do shit against a lot of other things

well

other then cc

but death is the best cc

[floral solstice]

just dont expect good dps on unarmored, infested shit

i dont mind if they keep the staff as is, but man i wish they change the staff specials

[idle bay]

What Melk brought to my Psyker today:

[left basin]

SIKER BUF!!!

[shadow wigeon]

it's why im not hugely sad about run and gun on my purg. it's limited value for sure, but not zero

[left basin]

has siker reached any interesting breakpoints because of the new buff?

[devout sentinel]

Need someone owning a traum staff doing test (2mins psykhanium)

[devout sentinel]

With the "bug" on cerebral yes . Damnation no

[left basin]

mhm

i forget, does cerebral apply on the first hit of the ability or nuh

[devout sentinel]

2nd

can 2 shot bulwarks with it

[left basin]

hm

[devout sentinel]

without warp charges

[left basin]

HM

kewl

[devout sentinel]

i doin anything particular atm ?

[left basin]

so they're throwing shit against the wall again

?

[devout sentinel]

need a trauma staff to test something quickly

dont own one

[left basin]

not much

yeah i do

[devout sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857588531941416

[manic halo]

siblings does kenetic flayer affect the shield bosses?

[regal musk]

Flayer is an on-hit trigger, so theoretically yes?
I could be wrong though if the shield doesnt count as a hit

[manic halo]

ay maybe ill try and test but i dunno

[devout sentinel]

brain burst is always a weakspot hit

and kinetic goes for the same rules . not blockable atm

[forest coral]

Wat u need test on

But can’t do it for a few hours

[devout sentinel]

Alrdy within the file at the end. Cerebral Laceration

[restive slate]

Is it just me or did they buff the Trauma staff further? It seems to stagger and slightly dmg enemies outside the circle now

[forest coral]

I think it’s mainly from warp charges being more effective

[rocky cedar]

A high blast radius roll literally always hit way way beyond the circle

[restive slate]

Oooh alrighty thanks

[long wharf]

the circle is just the kill zone for maximum damage, but enemies need to be fully inside the circle

[rocky cedar]

Circle isn't even kill zone to my knowledge

I don't think the circle UI changes with blast radius stat

It's a fairly useless piece of UI that is only useful for trying to get things as much right in the centre of it as possible

[regal musk]

Blast Radius affects the stagger shockwave mostly.

[long wharf]

the circle is the kill zone

we've tested

if the enemy's feet are both inside the circle, you see full damage on them

[forest coral]

Trauma just feels nice to play now in damnation uwu

Purgatus still better in majority of situations tho

[regal musk]

Yeh, bigger blasty radius extends the invisible shockwave radius beyond the marked killzone

[long wharf]

if the enemy's cylinder is even the slightest bit outside the circle, you see the minimal damage

it's pretty shitty

[rocky cedar]

So the circle does change with blast radius stat then?

It must since epicentre scales up

[long wharf]

I think so? I actually haven't tested that

[rocky cedar]

It'd be pretty funny if it only lined up correctly with max blast radius stat

[long wharf]

what does the blast radius inspection description say? not that we can 100% trust it

[rocky cedar]

Both outer radius and epicentre show a range that scales up with the stat

Epicentre presumably being the kill zone

[regal musk]

It'll affect how close to the center of the marked zone things need to be to take full damage. Low blast radius causes things inside the makrer close to edge to take less damage.
It has a drastic effect on the stagger shockwave radius, which is the outer radius indicated on the stat

[long wharf]

don't get me started on how "great" it is to spread enemies out in a room

[regal musk]

I hat ethe trauma specifically for that reason lol

[long wharf]

that and the aiming

[rocky cedar]

Aim it at the front of the horde so it knocks everything back

Or if there are priority elites centre of them and just clear knocked over trash quickly in melee

People make way too big a deal about that

[long wharf]

or just kill the horde via melee?

or void the horde?

or purge it?

[rocky cedar]

Depends on density and composition

[long wharf]

almost anything else the psyker can do to the horde is better than scattering it, even if it's backwards

[rocky cedar]

If it's a pure horde yeah just melee it obviously

Nobody should struggle with a pure horde in melee

[long wharf]

my combat axe doesn't care if elites are in the horde

with the sole exception of bulwarks, but then they ruin a lot of people's days

[regal musk]

I especially hate trauma users when im on my ogryn lol. Kinda grating to have all the mobs i was about to hgit to give me bleed DR and toughness back get blasted out of melee range while im getting shot at XD

[rocky cedar]

That's your bad for running bleed on Ogryn

[long wharf]

oof, I hate ogryns that charge through a group, scattering it, just to turn around and melee everything they just scattered

I don't care that you want the toughness DR, the group is better off with the enemies staying grouped up

[regal musk]

Nop, Thats the traumas bad foir pointlessly scattering melee mobs that were being taken care off instead of the bloody shooters

[regal musk]

I dont lik ethose ogryns either lol

[long wharf]

trauma is shit for quick, precise aiming

[rocky cedar]

Well yes any weapon can be used badly

But you shouldn't run bleed on Ogryn regardless

[leaden thunder]

heavyweight gaming

[leaden thunder]

tbh it depends on whats going on

most the tiem yeah

don't do that

[regal musk]

Im referring to a horde engagement where mobs are streaming in. I can basically solo the melee things and never take any health damage even if shooters are blasting me. Team should be knockjing out shooters while the horde is engaged, not blasting the horde all over the map while shooters are left alone

[rocky cedar]

For sure, equally depending on what you have on your Ogryn you could also be helping with shooters

[long wharf]

sadly, trauma user has no choice

[rocky cedar]

Most of their ranged arsenal has good shooter application

[regal musk]

Trauma can left click to target the shooters.

[long wharf]

and staff can poke people

but should it?

[leaden thunder]

yes

becuase it's funny

[long wharf]

indeed

[regal musk]

Heavby Stubba isnt so great for that depending on ranges lol

[rocky cedar]

If shooters are clustered trauma can do good work on them. If not clustered you should just KB BB them

[long wharf]

"lulz" is the only reason to poke with the staff

[leaden thunder]

I still think you should be able to equip staff as both melee and ranged

and make it an actual melee

[regal musk]

Staff melee should do damage based on peril >_>

[long wharf]

I'm okay with the staff being ranged, get rid of the special melee poke and give each staff a unique special warp attack

[rocky cedar]

I do spend a fair bit of my trauma game KB BBing if nobody is dealing with shooters well enough

[leaden thunder]

that would also be fine

[rocky cedar]

If someone brings trauma and refuses to use anything but it regardless of situation that's on them not trauma

[forest coral]

I find nearly a third of my damnation games on psyker are spent bbing shooters anyway lol

[regal musk]

thats why i specified Trauma users rather than the staff itself lol.
A good Trauma user is a rarity in random runs.

[rocky cedar]

A good anything user is a rarity sometimes

[leaden thunder]

true

[rocky cedar]

I'm frequently astounded at how many Zealots I meet suck with flamer

And like

That's not a complicated weapon

[forest coral]

or zealots who run off to get caught by a dog or trapper by themselves

[clear heath]

flamer for single target
thunder hammer for hordes
this is the way

[forest coral]

If its malice or heresy speed running for mats sure i get it

[upper galleon]

got damn

log in, decide to level my psyker

"Chasm terminus" crashes

at least it is letting me reconnect

[manic halo]

trauma staff has been very fun for me so far

just good to see poxwalkers turn into limbs

[dusky bear]

in real missions i dont know how usefull it is. But i noticed in the meat grinder that the trauma staff has a huge radius of chip damage. like 10 damage from a 400 damage explosion. But if you have the rending blast blessing, it applys the rending to all enemies hit by the chip damage.

[rocky cedar]

It's technically brittleness but yeah it's nice

[forest coral]

It's still strong, just outclassed by purgatus

But trauma is arguably the staff that needs good rolls to actually have its potential show in higher difficulty

[shadow wigeon]

It is?

[forest coral]

aka be more than just a yeet stick

[long wharf]

no amount of rolls changes the aiming

[dusky bear]

yeah it doesnt last

eventually damage done to the target hit by rending wave goes back to normal, so the rending doesnt stick

[forest coral]

It's a decent horde clear weapon and does relatively well vs maniacs and flak

like itll actually explode clumped things at its epicentre regardless how much stuff is grouped in there

[dusky bear]

it does full damage to carapace

which is heavenly on t5 crushers

[forest coral]

yee

however just outclassed in sheer damage output and area stagger that purg does

[dusky bear]

very true

[forest coral]

I would actually use it over Surge in pugs if the damage and aoe roll for it was good

[dusky bear]

like so?

charge rate is a bit of a bummer but other than that ive been enjoying smacking stuff with this

[forest coral]

yeah, thats very decent

and the fact its easy to maintain 6 warp stacks will see you popping poxwalkers once you get unarmoured perk/ infested perk

[dusky bear]

the one staff im really hunting for is a crit build voidstrike. warp nexus + crit perk and either blazing spirit or surge

havent seen either of those perks even once though

[rocky cedar]

I would rate charge speed as second most important stat roughly

Still good trauma overall

[sleek hornet]

M-management? ... Rock and Stone! I'll get back to work!

[long wharf]

for... Karl?

as much as people want the MourningStar to be a hub for shenanigans like DRG has, it makes no sense lore-wise for it to be

shenanigans get you killed in WH40K.

[dusky bear]

Hadron really doesnt like armored enemies

[long wharf]

no, she really doesn't like you

charge rate is important for trauma

[shadow wigeon]

That makes so much more sense

[dusky bear]

nah ive had no issues so far with charge rate

[long wharf]

sure, because you spend more time trying to get your aiming right than you do charging

[dusky bear]

not really. if theres a target worth full charging for i full charge it. if theres stuff needing CC i 1/4 or 1/2 charge it

and if theres stuff ontop of me, quick spamming is enough to cc it or kill it

[long wharf]

trauma doesn't do bad damage, using it solely for throwing enemies around is a detriment to your team

[dusky bear]

thats not what i use it for, but good advice

[spice veldt]

I use trauma mainly for killing ranged, so I rate charge as very important

[long wharf]

trauma's crit damage multiplier needs serious addressing

it's absolutely atrocious right now

[rocky cedar]

It's not like you can get decent crit chance on it anyway

Not till they fix warp nexus

[long wharf]

yeah, but there ought to be a reason to go for crit

of all the staves, trauma should be highest raw damage

[rocky cedar]

Even better would be if they stopped tying trigger conditions to crits for staffs

[long wharf]

yeah, every other class has multiple ways of applying their DOT of choice

we get crits, and the purge staff

all of our staves should have blessings (or built-in) ways to apply soulblaze

and not just on crit

[daring nexus]

They need to make a staff blessing that has a chance to BB on hit

Like a staff bound kinetic flayed

[long wharf]

that would be a bit op

[spice veldt]

might be too subclass specific

and as far as I'm concerned, they're not doing much with the split-inventory-between-your-characters thing

[forest coral]

I honestly wouldnt mind a shotgun style staff

where its high damage close range blasting

[manic halo]

ay that would be nice

I wish ice powers were a thing. I want ice staff

[rocky cedar]

A beam staff equivalent would be appreciated

[manic halo]

make people fall overe

[forest coral]

or heck, even something like bolt staff from sienna would be cool too

[rocky cedar]

As would a bolt staff equivalent

[forest coral]

but that would double up on bb i guess

[rocky cedar]

Eh yes and no

Bolt had very high cleave in a straight line

[spice veldt]

only for Psyker Psykinetic

part of the reason that I argue against BB buffs is that i want most of our power to come from subclass-independent stuff

[rocky cedar]

BB was honestly already fine it's extremely fine since 1.0.25

They definitely shouldn't buff it any more

[forest coral]

im still sad it takes 3 bb to kill a mutie in damnation, even with 6 stacks

[long wharf]

BB wasn't fine before the last patch, sorry

[rocky cedar]

Cerebral lacerations should stay as it is affecting BB itself though

[long wharf]

and it's not yet where it should be as a primary class feature

but I can live with it if we see a subclass that specializes in BB specifically

[spice veldt]

BB only feels terrible because of our terrible lack of ranged DPS weapons

otherwise we would be able to swap to another weapon to get that ranged edge

[rocky cedar]

It's in the grenade slot and it has a lot of utility. It never should have been a use all the time ability

[spice veldt]

it's a consequence of how few force weapons we have

4 CC staffs, 1 single-target DPS force melee

of course, you could argue that our next subclass is probably gonna come in like a year or two

[clear heath]

If we had a good ranged dps weapon, wouldn't that just make BB feel even worse?
Everyone would just compare BB to the weapon and no one would use BB

[spice veldt]

BBing Bulwarks and catching fast enemies

it still fulfills a niche

like a grenade-slot weapon does

[long wharf]

I don't disagree, but our feats are still setup as if BB is a primary attack method

[daring nexus]

Honestly if they just made one force sword with good cleave and vanguard attacks the weapons would be in a perfect spot

[spice veldt]

i'm not gonna expect players to have perfect aim

and it still depends on whether they're gonna apply the suppression mechanic to future force staffs or some other accuracy system

[long wharf]

BB's 6s windup only makes this worse

[forest coral]

BB with kb is more reliable than vet with bad aim

but if they got good aim, ur kind of anti carapace back up lol

[spice veldt]

and it's a decent balancing measure for how little mechanical skill the class takes

[rocky cedar]

I will say the difference between with and without KB is probably too far

Base BB could do to be a bit quicker

[daring nexus]

All they need to do is bring BB up to the point where it does 1500 with 4 charges and it will hit some better breakpoints on damnation

[spice veldt]

eh, I don't think BB should ever be one-shotting certain enemies

[clear heath]

I think the breakpoints it reaches are mostly fine

[rose lily]

with this new WC change i'm gonna try psykenetic's aura, battery, and KB with purg staff to see how long i can help the team and keep 4-6 WC's at all times

[spice veldt]

we already have the tools to deal with ragers, especially since we have CC staffs and our force swords are probably going to be "sticky" activation weapons

[rose lily]

how many hits would an ogryn-type take at that point?

[clear heath]

Pretty sure it's intentional that it doesn't one shot melee elites, and one shots non-ogryn ranged enemies (except flamer)
ok the flamer thing is a bit unintuitive

[daring nexus]

2 for crushers and bulwarks, 3 for reapers

[spice veldt]

i think flamers are fine since they get relatively close to you

[clear heath]

yeah usually they're close enough to dead anyways

[spice veldt]

and they get staggered by a partial BB cast

[rose lily]

that sounds reasonable

[clear heath]

It's not really a problem or anything
Just an odd outlier

[spice veldt]

yeah

but i think it makes sense since I do kinda want them to be this gimmicky sort of threat

y'know, not too bad if your team isn't huddled in a corner or something

just move around them and beat their ass

and they stand taller than a horde

so gun classes can just shoot them to interrupt them or gank them

only missing thing are their tanks exploding

[daring nexus]

The thing about flamers is that they aren’t supposed to stick around it’s kind of weird that they can’t be brain burst in 1 on damnation

[spice veldt]

but you already have other tools to deal with them

[clear heath]

they're so low hp after the brain burst anyways

just hit them with whatever

[spice veldt]

purg staggers them, other staffs can left-click them, they get staggered by a partial BB cast, they're easily dodged as long as the entire space isn't filled with commons

they have a clear audio cue

[daring nexus]

But if you finish it with a staff your robbed of the charge

[clear heath]

then hit them with a staff first

[cloud sequoia]

trauma

[clear heath]

lol

[spice veldt]

i think flamers are fun because they get killed in two melee heavy headshots

and they get staggered on a single push
and scab flamers get staggered by a zero-stamina push

[daring nexus]

It’s just awkward this way, they literally have a tiny piece of health left after a bb just push it over

[spice veldt]

well the awkwardness is the whole game of BB

with how slow its base cast is

like it would feel nice to have it one-shot, but it would trivialize certain enemy encounter a bit much, even if other classes have better tools to deal with it that overshadow the BB

it's just that our long-ranged staff options are clunky because it's mostly voidstrike which is a anti-ranged/horde hybrid or the left-click bolt, which is a small ass projectile that has a delay depending on ping

[clear heath]

i usually surge before BB and that'll kill them

at 6 stacks i think they only have like 130 hp left? even surge will do that much

[spice veldt]

i also just dive into a horde and melee them

[daring nexus]

Well yea there’s that too

[spice veldt]

especially with KD

[leaden thunder]

lightning bolt staff when

but actual lightning bolts

[spice veldt]

maybe they'll change the primary of surge to be one or something

[regal musk]

Surge primary should have been a hitscan lightning bolt.

[rose lily]

damn, even at 6 WCs, BB doesn't hit a qualitative breakpoint with ragers and flamers

[daring nexus]

Ragers are especially annoying because they come in like packs of 5 and you gotta bb each one twice

Your fucked if you didn’t take KD

[clear heath]

You can also surge a pack of ragers and then BB them all to death in 1

At 6 wc i think they have ~90 hp left after BB

[spice veldt]

tbf, all staffs except void can handle a pack of ragers

purge left-click staggers them, surge staggers them, trauma staggers them

[rose lily]

right

[clear heath]

literally just hit them with anything
we have plenty of aoe options

[rose lily]

true

[spice veldt]

or if you're a force sword connoiseur like me, just dodge-slide special them

chainsword works too

[cloud sequoia]

just ult and blast them if they got too close

[spice veldt]

yeah, we do have our panic button, which is nice for melee
though mines is usually down since i probably either used it for kinetic barrage or to save myself from peril mismanagement

[daring nexus]

They should at least let force sword special generate charges it would be so much more rewarding

[cloud sequoia]

i use it for opening using AB , trauma staff

[rose lily]

understandable, it can be tricky
do you use psykenetic aura?

[spice veldt]

ye

i already like to greed for elite kills

so i might as well pick it

[rose lily]

well it helps you AND the team, so that's great
it's just first come/first serve haha

[spice veldt]

mine

i'll make veterans regret running bio optics targeting

and then I'll be pikachu face when they swap off

[daring nexus]

Stop telling fatshark about how broken psykinetic aura is they will nerf it

[rose lily]

sorry

Mr. Boston Market?

...Dad?

[daring nexus]

Mr Boston from I love New York

Seriously fatshark can’t know our secrets they will try to take them from us. Look what they did to crit zealots.

[devout sentinel]

99% is using communion . nobody gonna know :p

[daring nexus]

I think most people know aura is better

[devout sentinel]

i still dont get why crit knife zel gets nerfed but flamethrower stays most op ingame

[spice veldt]

spaghetti code is my theory

[rose lily]

I think it depends on play style / prioririties

[rocky cedar]

They did what needed to be done to crit Zealot's

[spice veldt]

for example, psyker and veteran's ranged toughness dmg reduc also applies to melee

[devout sentinel]

tons still dont know the function and stay away for that reason + "it does not help the team anything"

[rocky cedar]

75% DR is super stupid

[clear heath]

where is the nerf to veteran dr?

[cloud sequoia]

reducing RSI from zealot player

[spice veldt]

the nerf to veteran DR was all the friends that we made arguing about it

[rocky cedar]

Hopefully on its way

[daring nexus]

Lmao

[cloud sequoia]

vet is boring

[devout sentinel]

+1

[cloud sequoia]

and vet chat is unhabitable

[daring nexus]

Vet dr is pretty sus

[clear heath]

right now it's all just cat gifs

usually it's femboys

[spice veldt]

saw one femboy already

i think

i'll just assume it was a femboy

[clear heath]

oh there's a femboy in there too

[spice veldt]

that's a safe assumption

statistically valid assumption

[devout sentinel]

GIRL guy in real life ..right ? right internet ?

btw new cerebral +kinetic bb does 1hit crusher

when all rng comes together

[daring nexus]

What?

[long wharf]

I've been online longer than there's been the internet in its currently recognizable form

[devout sentinel]

Cerebral Laceration + Kinetic Flayer + Brain Burst = Crusher goes BOOM

[long wharf]

I've held one policy that has never steered me wrong yet, and that is:

[daring nexus]

Lol that’s hilarious

[long wharf]

"Everyone online is a 40 year old gay trucker until proven otherwise"

[spice veldt]

i'm not sure what to think about being thought of as a 40 year old gay trucker, but i suppose I can't do anything about it

[daring nexus]

Lacerations new BIS 😂

[regal musk]

Laceration affects BB now?
Are we sure that's not a bug?

[long wharf]

always has

[spice veldt]

? you mean feature?

[devout sentinel]

over 1 1/2hours testing here you go sir

[regal musk]

Strange.. it specifically states non warp sources.
Gonna assume it's a bug XD

[spice veldt]

feature

[clear heath]

It's really cool how BB is a warp attack for one feat but non-warp damage for another

very consistent thank you fatshark

[devout sentinel]

yeps will ask "combat guy" in forums tomorrow what he has to say

[spice veldt]

which feat? warp absorption (+10% toughness on kill) one?

[clear heath]

yeah, it counts as a warp attack for that

but it also counts as non warp damage for lacerations

[spice veldt]

ahhhh

[clear heath]

fatshark can't make up their mind

[spice veldt]

so they already have a working thingamajig to distinguish BB as a warp attack

[rocky cedar]

Damn it they got me

[spice veldt]

so I guess it actually is a feature?

[clear heath]

it's a warp attack with non-warp damage i guess

[regal musk]

Probably more like the Lacerations debuff isn't distinguishing.

[devout sentinel]

on one hand everything is warp on the other hand everything besides voidstrike and trauma is warp ...they dont know themself for real

[rocky cedar]

Laceration should stay as is

[spice veldt]

yeah; i'm fine with it since it requires at least two BBs for it to be effective anyways

[clear heath]

It's better for us that way anyways

[spice veldt]

as long as we don't get into one-shot territory

[rocky cedar]

So for slug BB it then trauma best damage output?

With lacerations obviously

[spice veldt]

oh wait, i think trauma primary and secondary both count as warp, so they don't benefit from CL?

i'm reading off the royale w/ cheese guide

[daring nexus]

It should honestly just be fixed to include all or no warp attacks

[spice veldt]

at least force sword specials count as non-warp, so I'm over it now

[devout sentinel]

do count as warp for the thoughness one but not for CL
*trauma

[rocky cedar]

Wait so trauma doesn't get more damage from CL?

[spice veldt]

apparently not

[devout sentinel]

Trauma , Void , Purg Ticks excluded

[rocky cedar]

Big sad

I wanna do big doo doos on BoN

[spice veldt]

of all the staffs not be counted as non-warp, why is it the explosion ones

what is this injustice

[devout sentinel]

I got that image in my head- 4 angry psyker standing around nurgle beast debuffing and stomping traumas into it xDD

"you shal be send to hell heretic! stomp stomp stomp : D

[slim geyser]

sounds like that was a fun time

[devout sentinel]

confuses me even more. btw where did you get that from

[spice veldt]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[crude cape]

hello, haven't played in a bit has the meta shifted for psykers at all?

what staffs are good rn and builds?

[hybrid zephyr]

More people are running Warp Battery (6 charges) after the patch, as it gives +24% dmg (used to give +18% dmg)

Staffs didn't get changed so the most popular ones are still Purgatus and Surge

[crude cape]

purgatus really?

[rocky cedar]

Purgatus has basically always been meta

[crude cape]

i saw most people using voidstrike when i played

how do you build purgatus staff

[rocky cedar]

But at this point all staffs are perfectly respectable

[hybrid zephyr]

Purgatus is popular because it deals with all types of hordes really well, especially ones with Maulers/Crushers/Bulwarks

[cloud sequoia]

Me Trauma team

[rocky cedar]

Ascendant Blaze, Warp Battery, and Toughness on warp charge are the main elements of the build

[hybrid zephyr]

Alternatively swap Ascendant Blaze for Kinetic Barrage

it's personal preference

[rocky cedar]

Yeah but toughness on warp charge definitely gets a lot weaker without AB

KB is always good though

[crude cape]

any suggestion on talents? like a quick screenshot of whats best? this is my purgatus staff, is it any good or nah?

[hybrid zephyr]

Fair, I like KB as a general purpose feat

[crude cape]

ah ok ty

[hybrid zephyr]

looks really good to me, maybe the perks need changing but the hard stats look good

Cloud Radius and Burn are the key stats

[crude cape]

by comparison this is my best voidstrike staff which just feels better i think

[hybrid zephyr]

play whichever staff you like

[crude cape]

ah ok, i cant swap perks tho yet can i?

[hybrid zephyr]

you can reroll a perk

just not blessings

[rocky cedar]

You can reroll one of them

Not both

Blessings are already BiS by the look of it anyway

[hybrid zephyr]

I would re-roll the Sprint Efficiency to something else, like + % damage Maniacs or something

[rocky cedar]

I'd reroll sprint efficiency to flak or maniac

[floral solstice]

something like 1-2-1-1-1-2 for feats, then get ranged crit chance as one of your perks.

[hybrid zephyr]

^ oh right

[rocky cedar]

Oh yeah crit chance pretty good call

[crude cape]

does crit chance based on peril work too, or nah?
also how are these Curios? What should I be swapping out

[hybrid zephyr]

@crude cape for Purgatus staff, criticals apply an extra stack of burn, which is key. Purgatus staff damage comes from stacking burns, which Ascendant Blaze also applies

[hybrid zephyr]

yes Crit Chance on Peril (the blessing you have) is very good

[crude cape]

ok cool

[rocky cedar]

Warp nexus works but badly, you'll only have 1-2 stacks pretty much ever

[crude cape]

my force sword has deflector, which is why i had block efficency on curios, but idk if thats actually good

[rocky cedar]

It's not that good but better than alternatives

[hybrid zephyr]

Curios depend on if you're running Force Sword with Deflection or not

[hybrid zephyr]

if you're running that, I think the +stamina curios are better for it now

[rocky cedar]

Strongly recommend getting toughness regen on curios

[floral solstice]

crit chance perk because crits on purgatus = double burn stack, im talking about perk btw not blessing

[crude cape]

I was running peril on block perk too is why, figured block efficency = less peril build up while blocking

[rocky cedar]

Block efficiency is a fine perk to have

[floral solstice]

block eff is fine, toughness regen speed is pretty good since they fixed it

just consecrate your curios for more perk slots (you can only refine 1 though)

[crude cape]

ok cool, so i probably want to reroll sprint efficiency im guessing?

[rocky cedar]

Yes

[crude cape]

ya tbh i haven't played for a bit but deflector + peril blocking perk + block % curios felt strong i could stand there and just block ranged guys

is anything else besides crit chance acceptable (dmg to elites etc) or just keep rerolling for nothign but crit chance

[floral solstice]

crit chance

purgatus main damage source are burn stacks

more burn = more fun

[crude cape]

ok, had to go all the way until it was 1 cost lmao rip my crafting mats but got it. is 4% a good roll or can be higher?

[floral solstice]

brought to you by your local arsonist

[crude cape]

it has 3 boxes, not a full diamond so it can be 1 level better right?

[floral solstice]

yeah max is 5 but 4 is fine

[crude cape]

but as i grind mats, i can keep rerolling it until i get a max level crit perk?

and it will stay at this 1 cost

[spice veldt]

the cost will eventually become free

[crude cape]

ah cool

[spice veldt]

but t4 perks are kind of rare

and you also want a specific t4 perk

[crude cape]

oh ya its free

[spice veldt]

you might have to click for half an hour to get a specific t4 perk that you want

[crude cape]

well if its free, i can just sit here until i get it

ok right

but i can do it still

cool

tbh ya im not seeing a SINGLE tier 4 perk being rolled haha

damn

[daring nexus]

Welcome to the casino

[crude cape]

yayyy i got it

[spice veldt]

oh damn

[crude cape]

is there info somewhere on how much total mats it costs to reroll those perks until free?

[floral solstice]

hacks

[spice veldt]

off the top of my head, it's around 300

[floral solstice]

yeah something like that

[crude cape]

so now, until more crafting options, not much else i can do to this right?

[daring nexus]

Yea

[spice veldt]

99 diamantine and 299 plasteel when rerolling perks on a transcendant item

can't believe they still use a 1 to 3 ratio

[floral solstice]

i keep saying

devs dont play damnation lmao

that's why they dont know that we struggle with plasteel kek

[spice veldt]

fat 15k diamantine and 5k plasteel

[forest coral]

20k diamantine

[crude cape]

and for that purg staff i just rerolled, + this sword, im good with these talents right?
sorry final ask, just making sure i got it all together i dont wanna grief people haven't played since like christmas

[forest coral]

98 plasteel moment

[spice veldt]

yeah, you'll be fine

purgatus is pretty good on its own

[floral solstice]

uhh photos not loading on my phone hang on

[spice veldt]

force sword gives you some single-target dps and lets you push down crushers

[crude cape]

any obvious rerolls on that forcesword i should do?

[spice veldt]

+maniac% is pretty good

[crude cape]

and flak armoured % seemed good too, but not sure

[spice veldt]

I personally don't like +flak%, but others say they prefer it

[crude cape]

ah

seems like its a large number of enemy types wear flak, and they all take more hits to kill so if 20% takes off a hit to kill seems good

but idk if it does

[spice veldt]

you could reroll the flak perk and test in meatgrinder if you're into that sort of optimization

[crude cape]

ya true

once its free i could reroll and play around

[spice veldt]

+maniac% is a pretty good perk to have all the time, so that's fine to stick around

[floral solstice]

flak + maniac is fine, some people even roll block eff on those afaik

[crude cape]

ah block eff could be good

i do already have 24% on my curios

dunno if it would be overkill

or if stacking would be potentially strong

[floral solstice]

might be overkill tbh

usually when i run force sword i use deflect to dodge-slide back to cover

[spice veldt]

you do use kinetic deflection, so it is a bit overkill

[crude cape]

but the 24% on curios felt strong 2 months ago against ranged packs with deflector and peril blocking talent

[floral solstice]

unless you wanna roleplay shieldgryn i dont think you need that much block eff

well you cant rescue with deflector anymore, sadly

you can block while someone else rescues

but that's it

[spice veldt]

something to note is that they updated Kinetic Deflection
- Passive quelling now gets stopped if Kinetic Deflection is triggered
- You no longer get guardbroken when blocking an attack without the requisite stamina as long as you have the stamina to block it

[crude cape]

if i was going to use a dueling sword, which model is considered best? wanna get rid of a few

[crude cape]

ah ok good to know

[spice veldt]

so Kinetic Deflection is way stronger in melee since you can push without the consequence of being guardbroken, but it indirectly nerfs Deflector because of the passive quell nerf

[crude cape]

i kinda like this, i didn't like that normal weapons could infinite block and sit there passive quelling. it was cool but made force sword feel kinda useless

[floral solstice]

mk 5 has the best mobility and double overhead heavies

the other 2 has cleave stat

[crude cape]

gotcha

[floral solstice]

and different light/heavies

[crude cape]

the poke heavy on the other one i kinda used to like

[floral solstice]

cant say much about mk 2 and 4 cause i prefer 5

[crude cape]

you can dodge in and out and poke heads

idk which one has the poke heavy tho

[floral solstice]

kinda the same thing with 5 tbh

with mk5 you can hit muties in the head from behind as long as you're close enough

idk if you can do that with other mks too

never tested other mks much

[crude cape]

ok cool

[forest coral]

you can with II

[crude cape]

good to know

[crude talon]

One of those axes has a stagger combo with special attack too. I think it’s the 5? Or maybe all of them? Idk

[floral solstice]

iirc mk 2 has the 4-lights set?

anyway i've moved on from using dueling toothpick tbh, im usually running antax now

[crude cape]

are vets still stupid good

they ever get nerfed? lol

doesn't seem like we got buffed, so

[floral solstice]

we just got buffed

[spice veldt]

the players, it depends. Power sword got a cleave limit tacked onto it and it loses more damage with more targets cleaved a while back

[crude talon]

I like the dueling sword

[floral solstice]

and yes darktide is pretty much still vettide

cause all the devs probably main vet

[crude cape]

oh we did, how so?

patch notes are such a jumble, hard to easily go through

wasn't like a "psyker" section

[floral solstice]

we lose warp charges one by one now instead of all at once

[forest coral]

yup yup, First heavy is stab and then overhead follow up

[floral solstice]

bb buff

lacerations buff

but we're still... psykers.

[forest coral]

Duelling sword with perma 6 warp stacks is pretty decent in horde clear now

[spice veldt]

i await the day we get a real ranged weapon

[floral solstice]

you running toothpick with trauma kimo?

[crude talon]

There literally was a psyker section btw lol

[forest coral]

yup

[floral solstice]

noob

[forest coral]

its working for me as a good all rounder

[floral solstice]

maybe i'll try it on other staves cause i dont feel like running battery on surge

[crude talon]

Does anyone use lacerations?

[forest coral]

I dunno, the main niche which makes it good for me to play is the mobility from the dodge it gives

I use lacerations with quietitude builds

[floral solstice]

i tried it on a couple t5/hi5 games when patch came out, it kinda felt overkill on ogryns tbh

because usually someone else is hitting your target to finish it off

but it does hit some nice breakpoints without charges

[crude cape]

OMG REALLY?

holy shit

[floral solstice]

yeah

[crude cape]

thats fucking huge

[floral solstice]

which shouldve been a thing since beta anyway lol

[forest coral]

warp battery means basically perma 6 warp stacks

[crude cape]

ya for real

[forest coral]

which has then lead to staves like Trauma or void feeling a bit more useful overall

[crude cape]

damn my voidstrike build would crush, gonna try this purgatus build bc it always felt underwhelming to me and you guys saying its strong

[forest coral]

and melee stronger

err...

use purg like a flamer

[floral solstice]

we can roll 2 psykers, one has lacerations one has aura

stonks

[forest coral]

and itll trivialize a good portion of the game

[crude cape]

i feel like this voidstrike is way better than my purgatus. Any rerolls i should do on this one?

[spice veldt]

purgatus has a strong edge over voidstrike in that it's much better at killing every melee elite except Crusher

at least, groups of melee elites

[floral solstice]

yeah it looks good, idk much about voidstrike and its breakpoints tho tbh

[forest coral]

i kinda want to try a headhunter gun psyker since they buffed it

or a gun with strong default damage

[floral solstice]

save screenshot/clip if someone flames you while running gunpsyker

[forest coral]

like a warp battery + ascendant blaze

ill see if i can make it work lol

but it feels griefy

[floral solstice]

you grief all my games anyway what's the difference

[rocky cedar]

Agrip Inf probably gonna be very good for anti shooter too

[forest coral]

you get griefed

but we win

[crude cape]

I just realized i was looking for patch notes on steam

[floral solstice]

who's the real winner tho

[forest coral]

me

[floral solstice]

[crude cape]

and wasnt looking at the right ones

i see the buffs now, nice

[floral solstice]

yeah the buffs are a good start for our class

we still need a lot of rework/buffs/maybe even huge overhauls lol

[forest coral]

perma 6 warp stacks and each stack being stronger?

[floral solstice]

but for now we can roll damnation just fine

[crude cape]

how much does the 10% stagger and dmg buff on BB actually help? does it change breakpoints? 1 hits dogs?

[forest coral]

whatchu mean ranni

[floral solstice]

nah cant 1 hit dogs

[forest coral]

we were already fine in damnation

it's finer now

[floral solstice]

no i struggle in sedition

[forest coral]

[crude cape]

damn even with 6 stacks?

[floral solstice]

nah

[forest coral]

nope

[floral solstice]

sorry

[forest coral]

dogs built diff

[floral solstice]

with lacerations, 0 buffs you can 2 shot bulwarks/3 shot reapers on t5

without lacerations they'll have a bit of hp left

[forest coral]

i just find lacerations slightly overkill for bulwarks unless its an assassination

[crude cape]

how does lacerations help?

[forest coral]

or you're expecting alot of monstrosity spawns

[crude cape]

isnt BB a warp dmg source

[floral solstice]

it's a fatshark thing

dont trust descriptions

it affects BB

[forest coral]

25% extra damage to target from all sources

[crude cape]

so brainburst gets 25% more dmg on all followup BB on same target with lacerations

thats cool

[rocky cedar]

If they ever let us one shot dogs they've definitely gone too far

[spice veldt]

all sources except the ball projectile and equinox staffs

[floral solstice]

there are some staff attacks that dont work with lacerations tho iirc

[spice veldt]

according to that royale w/ cheese guide

[forest coral]

if you're ever trying to farm daemonhosts for weeklies

[crude cape]

so with voidstrike staff using kinetic barrage, would i probably want lacerations now over psychic communion

[forest coral]

thats excellent to bring to ur tema

[rocky cedar]

That dumb monster penance is also much easier now I guess

[forest coral]

25% now

...

i did malleus monstronum without it because im an idiot

its just a few more brainbursts itll be fine

[spice veldt]

if cerebral lacerations still works that way when solo privates get released, I guess that's the build I'm gonna be running for malleus

[rocky cedar]

Or

[forest coral]

the true challenge of malleus is getting a team

[rocky cedar]

Hear me out

Just pretend penances don't exist

[floral solstice]

kimo i just realized you were offering to help me with malleus back then

but you dont play ogryn

[rocky cedar]

It's better this way trust me

[spice veldt]

no

[floral solstice]

[cloud sequoia]

3 zealot TH hopped in

[forest coral]

Ranni me beloved

[spice veldt]

tbf i'm not much of a penance chaser

but i'm gonna pretty much exclusively play solo privates once they release

[forest coral]

you can do the same thing as ogryn with zealot

[spice veldt]

so i might as well get them since nothing can stop me then

[forest coral]

or another psyker with duelling sword

[floral solstice]

dew it

[forest coral]

bruh

the malleus we did didnt even need shield ogryn

[weary wasp]

Imagine putting oneself through the penance grinder just for token cosmetics

[floral solstice]

t5 daemonhost or bust

[forest coral]

it wasnt even goood in the end

[crude cape]

ok, last post for me before i do a run. rate the drip (yes im a whore who bought cosmetics im sorry to people who are against it lol) but good combo?

[forest coral]

[floral solstice]

yeah but we had to keep away so much shit because burgle takes so long

[forest coral]

haha ye

[floral solstice]

ok so when is it my turn

😦

[forest coral]

so you started to care bout it

[floral solstice]

(not that i actively do penances to begin with)

oh wait

now i do

[forest coral]

i can get on in like 6 hours for u if u want

[floral solstice]

maybe

[floral solstice]

best i can do is 2 hours, take it or leave it

jk yeah we can go later

[forest coral]

then leave it cause im out

lol aight

[floral solstice]

if i feel bored again lets just run t5 lmao

[forest coral]

we gonna need at least 1 more person to help with hordes tho

[floral solstice]

i feel like i'll just buy a cosmetic for psyker anyway

[weary wasp]

I like the hive ganger cosmetics for psyker

[floral solstice]

what's that

let me check

[crude cape]

hive ganger? lol

[floral solstice]

i really dont like any of the psyker cosmetics rn except for gloriana hood

[weary wasp]

Well it's basically that. Description doesn't match rogue trader.
Either way it's a good contrast to all the army guy shit

[crude cape]

still not sure which set you mean tho haha

[crude cape]

ya i like this hood too, i just have a hard time matching it with anything but the OG red outfit, which is the most boring base outfit bc its well, the one everyone has lol

[floral solstice]

well gloriana + red outfit is pretty much my drift

drip

[weary wasp]

Set in your screenshot

Minus skull. I'm not a fan of skull mask cosmetics in general

[crude cape]

ah gotcha

i like the skulls haha but i feel you

i like that set minus the pants

i bought it bc the chest is dope tho

pants are clown pants haha

i also REALLY wish the weapon cosmetics were better

so many are just like minor color shifts

or lame camo

[forest coral]

all i want is a hood that doesnt make you bald

is that too much to ask

[weary wasp]

I like the pants. They've got character. Like medieval cloth that isn't just all grey cloth and dirt

[floral solstice]

jesus i havent played a proper game since yesterday

by proper i mean no dcs and shit

still getting a lot of errors today

been getting a lot of crashes and dcs since new patch

psyker too strong it broke the game kappa

[weary wasp]

Not touching game till craft even tho I'm stoked about psyker buffs

F for ogryns tho

[still hearth]

Ogryn got buffed overall though

[spice veldt]

it was just hard as nails that got nerfed right

i saw a couple weapon buffs for them

[still hearth]

Yeah and Hard as Nails isn't really a core feat

And it's still great

Even if it was nerfed

Raging Bull was overall buffed

Even if the numbers were reduced it now applies to every swing and every target

[rocky cedar]

Yeah Ogryn overall buffed no question

Ripper buffs don't address its core issue (ammo) whatsoever but overall very nice stuff

[crude cape]

do you guys prefer max hp or max toughness on curios? also how many extra wounds are needed for t4 and t5?

[floral solstice]

i prefer hp

1 extra wound if you really need it

[compact cargo]

wounds to blow up more

[crude cape]

do you purposly blow up? lol

for the aoe dmg? haha

[spice veldt]

I'm a Toughness stan

wounds depend on how often you go down and whatnot; something to feel for yourself

[rocky cedar]

Toughness for me

[still hearth]

I run whatever gives me revive speed and sniper resistance atm

[rocky cedar]

Personally I don't think any extra wounds are necessary for T4 and 5 but obviously your mileage may vary on that

[dusky bear]

the going out with a bang grind is real

[rocky cedar]

At very least never run more than 1 extra wound

[still hearth]

You can't stop me

I'm running 5 Wounds now

[rocky cedar]

We've already seen the max wounds party run Vanessa

Or actually I think one or two people were running stam

But close enough

[still hearth]

Disgusting

[rocky cedar]

I actually might consider a stam curio for Psyker now it's fixed

[still hearth]

If you're the pro MLG

You run 1 Wound, 2 Stamina

Just so you can revive your noobs but still blow up sometimes

[dusky bear]

can we purge melk and the peddler servitor?

melk offers a single axe, a single curio and then all auto guns and las guns. peddler offers a void strike with 20% damage, and nothing else psyker related

[rocky cedar]

Git gud at RNG bro

[steel egret]

Pro MLG would just run full stamina.

[dusky bear]

do i need to say the prayer to rngesus all over again?

[still hearth]

Accept the gunner

[still hearth]

You need to dab on enemies by exploding

[rocky cedar]

Every hour before shop reset

[steel egret]

Assert dominance by blowing up once at start with no enemy on sight

[rocky cedar]

Yeah or just embrace gunker

One of the most horrible portmanteaus I've heard

[still hearth]

I love Gunker

Psygun is also nice

[dusky bear]

RNGesus in the code, hallowed be thy name
Thy grind will come, thy grind be done
on Tertium as it is on Terra
Give us this day our daily luck
and forgive us our cheesing, as we forgive those who cheese us
And lead us not into despair, but deliver us mad loot

As I pray, Amen

[rocky cedar]

I would really like it if they replace wrack and ruin with a gun feat

That'd be pretty swell

[still hearth]

Reload on F

Lets go.

[rocky cedar]

30% peril use on manual reload to get extra cleave for that clip or something funky and fun

[dusky bear]

malice comsplex just spawned

time to get out with a bang

[north cradle]

Sub 30 MESC let's go

[dusky bear]

now be honest

what number vet char is that?

[rocky cedar]

Also why post it to Psyker chat

[north cradle]

Don't wanna be in #veteran-class

Also joke's on you this is my first Vet

[rocky cedar]

Hahaha never visited there but OK

[north cradle]

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy

[rocky cedar]

And frogs

So I'm told

[north cradle]

But eh this is what I've got left on Psyker

Another hundred missions

If Steam tracked Heresy penances, which one do you think would be least achieved?

[kindred anchor]

charge six ogryns

[dusky bear]

gdi

3 shotgunners spawned on me and downed me right as i was blowing up

annnd the missions already gone. holy crap i hate the mission selection rng

[still hearth]

Swap back to the same character if it wasn't meant to time out

There's something fucky with the mission select and it just hides missions before they should be gone.

Though idk if that actually fixes it

[dusky bear]

nope its gone. i think it was one of the ones that only had a 20m timer

[still hearth]

Fair. In that case.

||Git gud||

[dusky bear]

nah im going to take the easy way out of blaming my team mates. it wasnt that i had bad position it was that they waited to start the interogation till i got hit by 2 muties and a burster so i wasnt ready for the gaurenteed spawn i was after

[ocean cipher]

what counts as an elite

for the blow urself upchallenge

[dusky bear]

im hoping shotgunners and gunners count

[kindred anchor]

they do, ragers probably easiest to do with

[uneven drift]

Anything you can tag except bosses.

[winged phoenix]

Can confirm, pulled mine off on shotgunners

[kindred anchor]

get an ogryn to shield a few ragers and damage them little and then explode

[dusky bear]

ragers maybe

[ocean cipher]

wait i thought those are specialists?

thats really easy

[dusky bear]

but if you get that one comsplex mission, where you have to data interrogate in a big open room to open an elevator, the ledge before that spot has a door that will spit out 3 shotgunners/gunners when you start it on malice or higher

so that mission is probably the easiest

[ocean cipher]

whats the fastest way to overperil

[dusky bear]

any staff with very low warp resistance

just spam charging the secondary fire. dont actually just it

[real ravine]

quick question, what are good blessings for a voidstrike staff?

[dusky bear]

just charge it to full, let it go, charge it to full again

[digital pagoda]

Transfer peril

[real ravine]

ah, I wasn't sure since I had used with it before and it didn't seem to make much difference but maybe I wasn't getting as many headshots as I thought

[cloud sequoia]

Ah yes the complex mission

[ocean cipher]

its REALLY hard to actually blow urself up with a voidstikr

[rough egret]

what perks do i want on this thing

[rocky cedar]

Swap crit damage to crit chance

[rough egret]

ok thats what i thought ty

[ornate hamlet]

that's a nice one

grats

[rough egret]

my first 380 lol

[ornate hamlet]

it's very good one, you're lucky

and what alsozara said is correct

[rough egret]

ty ty

[still hearth]

I noticed that

While Infested do take less damage from soulblaze

It's not an armor property but seems to be an inherent resistance

Since Rending does nothing to it

Same with Maniac

Which is weird because Carapace is an armor property

And you can stack Rending to do more damage

[brazen basalt]

wait, crit chance is a top choice for a purga?

[still hearth]

It doubles stacks

But I'd rather not take it

The crit blessing is way better

And +25% damage to an armor type is also nasty

[river sand]

rending and brittleness only affects only artificial armor (flak/carapace) maniac, unyielding, infested is not affected by it

[still hearth]

That would make some sense.

But also why

[lethal folio]

Rending works on infested as normal

[river sand]

i'd say unarmoured is always good cause dregs have unarmoured and high hp. flak isnt needed cause everything with flak except maulers has low hp by default. infested dmg is good with trauma to hit the onehitkill breakpoint but debatable with purg. leaves you carapace is useless with purg cause 0 x 1.25 is still 0. so i guess unarmoured and crit chance is best for purg

[still hearth]

So is Soulblaze an exception to this or not

I am confused

[lethal folio]

Soulblaze armour modifier on infested is 1.25

[still hearth]

Do you have a list of the soulblaze stats somewhere?

Since the only info that seems to be around is from a steam guide from here

[lethal folio]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/b907ee824c2dc57dbbad491dfd1c423c5b7332c0/scripts/settings/damage/damage_profiles/buff_damage_profile_templates.lua

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-happy-anime-cry-gif-15792713

warpfire does 3x toughness damage

What

[lethal folio]

Captain shield is toughness.

[still hearth]

Good to know

[brazen basalt]

ooh, so burning captains is actually good?

[still hearth]

I imagine they're immune to debuffs while the shield is up(?)

[brazen basalt]

i do it anyway to cover the horde for my mates, but it's nice if it's useful for the primary objective as well.

[brazen basalt]

I've heard otherwise, but it's not certain. like they accumulate debuffs and reset them on reshielding.

[still hearth]

4x Psykers with Purge wins again

[brazen basalt]

so burning or bleeding them is not useless, possibly.

[brazen basalt]

not if soulblaze stacks cap per target, not per author.

[still hearth]

It still does because you can ascendant blaze to get more stacks

@lethal folio I think I've asked this before but if you have two burn weapons and they have the same max stack value, do they just stack up to the max value faster, or do they each give max stacks, up to the 31 stack limit?

Or does burn/soulblaze just stack separately per player

[lethal folio]

I have no proof but two players shouldn't share stack limit, nothing exceeds the 31 on each enemy.

[still hearth]

So going by that if you have 2 staves with 15 max stack each

[brazen basalt]

so 2 weapons with 15 cap, spraying together, will reach 30 stacks on a target?

[lethal folio]

Two players should be safe.

[still hearth]

They should combine to 30 stacks, not 15 individual?

[still hearth]

I love that we literally had the same question in mind

This does mean that having two staves/flamers should be very good.

And having 2 staves and 2 flamers

[brazen basalt]

at least, not wasteful.

[still hearth]

Should be nasty

I still need to try this with a full team sometime

And check on a boss

[brazen basalt]

not sure how to field test it, it's not like we can see the number of stacks.

[cyan notch]

this seems.......unlikely

something about it doesnt make sense to me

[cyan notch]

you can just watch health bar ticks i guess

lowest difficulty boss and have 2 dudes do like 3 full charges

then compare with 1 dude

[still hearth]

Yeah just watch the boss HP bar basically

Should try with 4 Purge staves

Let one max stack

Then move on to the other

And see if it eventually stops doing more tick damage

[carmine radish]

Is deflector on power swords still useful?

I thought they nerfed it

*force swords sorry

[marsh token]

Is still very strong. I mean, it can block Bullets 😄

[carmine radish]

Lmao

[west stream]

I prefer ghost on a gun

shoot head

immune to boolet

But deflector and dodge spam will keep you alive forever

[marsh token]

Yeah, with Peril Blocking its very strong.

Spam dodge and hold block

[carmine radish]

All right, maybe thats what I need for more surviviability with Psyker

[marsh token]

When you pay attention to the enemy you can swap to your sword before get shoot and block the damage, and then swap back to your ranged weapon

[keen sleet]

Any tips on how to get the 'Not Even Close' penance?

[ocean cipher]

what level do i need to be before i can start actually working on gear properly

[clear heath]

until you're level 30, pretty much all your stuff is replaceable

[rocky cedar]

Fun fact, that doesn't actually make you immune, it's more like momentary Camo expert

[west stream]

huh

[rocky cedar]

It just makes shooters deaggro you

Which is the same result really

But kinda different implications

[still hearth]

I think what it actually does is that it puts you in the dodge state

So it's like dodging/sliding

[lethal folio]

Ghost applies buff dodge

Which makes it great paired with Vet's feat that generates stamina on dodging.

[forest coral]

Just try bb every dog you see

Eventually you’ll get it in some dumb way even after they’ve leapt

[leaden thunder]

^

[forest coral]

It’s hard to tell with how jank the dogs are

[leaden thunder]

that one is best to just do by accident

[forest coral]

For me that one just happened

[west stream]

not even close is fairly easy ye

just BB dogs

they will eventually explode at right time

easier on malice and below

possibly?

[keen sleet]

The dogs usually don't jump when I play, they just teleport and down me instantly

it's the reason why I max my other characters first and my psyker is still in lvl 15

Even though psyker was my character in the beta

[twilit flicker]

No advice for bad internet unfortunatly

Best of luck

[merry sundial]

Use the right click BB to time it 🙂

[warped perch]

Is using the 6 stack feat worth it now that we have super slow decay?

I'm using kinetic flayer currently

[devout sentinel]

Depending on what you want to do with it ?
Having more Resistances with Inner Tranquility ?
Having more Warp Charges to release into Hord with Ascending Blaze (+Purgatus) ?
Kinetic is pretty much brain-off Warp Charge gainer now if you (for whatever reason) don't want to activly brain burst

6 Stacks does kill entire infested/unarmoured/scap stalker grp in damnation as breakpoint for example

[west stream]

6 stacks ascending blaze is fun

there goes horde, gunners and shotgunners

[devout sentinel]

I feel 4 is more than enough to release with ascending and having kinetic to be able to "nuke" targets in solo/clutch situations for me personally. Additionally 4 or 6 charges are obv not so much of an affect as 0-4 charges in terms of Inner Tranquility (if you get what i mean ^^)

[lethal folio]

4 barely kills poxwalkers.

[feral topaz]

Use right click to pre-charge it, wait until you hear the audio queue of the pounce, click on dog

[wet jacinth]

Gunsyker. Recommended gun? And I will not use XII.

[devout sentinel]

gun.... "Accatran Mk VIIa Recon Lasgun"

[crude talon]

A .357 magnum.

[wet jacinth]

If I could get a nice blessing for a recon lasgun qwq

Otherwise I doubt it.

[crude talon]

Oh in game. I thought you wanted one to end your thoughts about gun psyker irl

[leaden thunder]

a 45-70 revolver

[wet jacinth]

Revolverpsyker in theory is cool but I'd leave that gun to veteran

[west stream]

heavy las pistol

cause push

[wet jacinth]

Or Zealot

[west stream]

that's it

[wet jacinth]

Yeah I ran it last night

Was interesting

[devout sentinel]

Cerebral gun psycho for you maybe

[wet jacinth]

I feel like it gave me more of a balance between melee/bb/range

I'll probably also try out the BB target 25% more damage feat as well

[west stream]

could be interesting

[wet jacinth]

Versus when I have a staff I feel like I'm hard focusing it or meleeing 80% of the time

[rocky cedar]

Agrip Inf Auto might be solid with good enough damage rolls

Haven't tried the HHs since the patch

[west stream]

I have a nice pistol so I am biased tbh

[devout sentinel]

inf auto/brace is a in-move rifle. you need to shoot while moving straight towards the enemy within close/medium range idk if u want that...

[keen sleet]

finger-gun weapon for psyker, going bang and heads' gone.

[west stream]

recon lasgun is fun but it feels inefficient