psyker-class

[still hearth]

What's aiming? What's taking damage? I'm here to kill.

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-25908805

[regal musk]

Too used to just leftclick blasting singular small mobs that are close

[slow karma]

Fair enough

[cloud sequoia]

agripina braced = fortnite
infantry autogun = CoD

[slow karma]

that perilous life

[regal musk]

Like i siad, i havent played enough of Vet to feel out its playstyle yet.

[clear heath]

I'm pretty sure you actually need to dodge in doom but ok

[still hearth]

Fort-what

[regal musk]

I just immediately do not like horrifically random the spread is for the kantraels when not using ADS. Thats just preference.

[still hearth]

I dodge with the agrip build too to preserve toughness

[regal musk]

ATM, The Hellbore feels quite natural to use but thats mostly because it feels very much like a non penetrating Voidstrike lol

[still hearth]

Yeah if you run XII be prepared to play ADS simulator click on heads

[slow karma]

turn to shoot, lazer flies perpendicular to you and the mob

Just straight up

[still hearth]

Its why I don't use it either

Feels super awful

[slow karma]

That's exactly what I expect out of an infantry lazgun

[clear heath]

I have the XII on my vet
but i barely play my vet so...

[slow karma]

it's a precision weapon

[regal musk]

Going ADS mode is just not a reflex after spending a 180 hours on Psyker lol

[idle bay]

Go Plasma then - no ADS there , and Overheat mechanics - feels like home 🙂

[regal musk]

Vets level 8 >_>

[idle bay]

2 more hours then 🙂

[regal musk]

I do plan to try the Plasma when i find one though

[idle bay]

Though i need to admit that venting heat via Special and hurting yourself at times looks better than reloading to drop the heat. Reloading Plasma takes AGES

[clear heath]

Really? Holding right click before attacking is pretty much how all of the staves work

[regal musk]

The perspective shift throws me off somewhat

Doesnt help that the ironsights just suck on practically everything

[clear heath]

ok that's fair

this game has terrible looking iron sights

shit visibility

[regal musk]

Im not saying the gun is bad, Just that im not comfortable with how it plays lol

[ocean cipher]

whats the easiest way to get either of these

i like both

and which is easier

[forest coral]

Warp battery by far

Much easier

[ocean cipher]

i mean

[shadow onyx]

cliffhanger = bridge map

[ocean cipher]

the outfits

[regal musk]

Hes asking about the other 2 for the cosmetics lol

[forest coral]

Oh

[shadow onyx]

bang = commsplex first event with hack

[forest coral]

First one still much easier

Push off bridge can be cheesed

[ocean cipher]

how

[shadow onyx]

bang first try on comms plex

[ocean cipher]

also now that ive decided to remain psyker imma just

ignore this

[forest coral]

Logistratum chasm bridge at start

Wait for horde to come out, loop around weird small bridge at the start on left hand side of bridge

Push horde down

Just make sure difficulty isn’t so low that bots kill off too many hordes

[ocean cipher]

also

do i do it with F or push

[forest coral]

Has to be f

[ocean cipher]

also what feats? only lv10 rn

[clear heath]

shouldn't matter for pushing anyways

[forest coral]

Feats literally don’t matter for that one

[ocean cipher]

also also how tf i get rid of this

i meant what feats in general

[cloud sequoia]

warp battery play enclavum baross

[forest coral]

Errr if u just starting out

[ocean cipher]

not going for warp battery

[forest coral]

Quietitude probably best one to start with

[cloud sequoia]

cliff hanger play uhh i forgot which map i think strike?

[clear heath]

he might not have a staff unlocked yet so idk if quietude really helps that much actually

[floral solstice]

you don't, that's the fun part

[ocean cipher]

she also i have a staff

[still hearth]

You don't.

[clear heath]

oh then yeah take quietude

[ocean cipher]

:I

[still hearth]

I've had that bug since beta

[ocean cipher]

what map for the warp push

[steel flame]

Its the scanner mission

[ocean cipher]

chasm terminus?

or throneside

[cloud sequoia]

either these two

[floral solstice]

yeah that seems to be the earliest spot you could do it

[ocean cipher]

i dont have that one rn

[floral solstice]

could also try on vigil station end event/hab dreyko escape event

[steel flame]

Hab dreyko

[cloud sequoia]

oh yea hab also have cliff

[ocean cipher]

oh hab dreyko

ok

[steel flame]

Its right at the end with the long curve

[cloud sequoia]

but you need to play until the end

[manic halo]

Alright everyone how’s that 4% change to the warp charges feel

[steel flame]

Amazing

[ocean cipher]

also the gradual decay

[manic halo]

Does it add to any break points?

[still hearth]

The stacks not falling off is the biggest part

[ocean cipher]

from what i understand, psyker got a HUGE buff right

[still hearth]

But the 4-6% damage isn't bad

[manic halo]

Ay the gradual decay was exciting

[cloud sequoia]

1 pop rager

[manic halo]

Makes me feel like booting the game up

[still hearth]

BB does 10% more damage and then you get 4.4% to 6.6% from warp charges

From before basically

[steel flame]

Have 24% damage bonus pops ragers on damnation

[cloud sequoia]

dont forget 10% BB damage boost

[still hearth]

Now if BB gets infested damage bonus

[manic halo]

I might have to change my build around a bit. My whole thing was passively building warp charges up without BB

[still hearth]

And it can one-shot dogs

[regal jasper]

I think there should be a visual thing where in brain burst the heads inflate

[still hearth]

It'll be pretty nasty

[clear heath]

2 shot bulwarks and maulers is a big one imo

[wheat quartz]

Psykinetic Aura/Kinetic Barrage combo is probably pretty worth it now

[forest coral]

This so much

[manic halo]

Niceeeee

[steel flame]

You doing fire or something else?

[clear heath]

I never knew i could feel such joy from seeing a bulwark

they give me purpose

[forest coral]

Psyker true carapace counter

[manic halo]

I was doing fire/lightning and all the talents that could give you a Warp charge for free

[floral solstice]

which head

[manic halo]

Worked well enough

[manic halo]

[cloud sequoia]

axe + trauma build

[manic halo]

Got me excited to play psyker… if only they didn’t nerf that block talent

[steel flame]

If you use purge and AB 6 stacks is now way better than kf

[summer prairie]

Psykers get +34% dmg vs elites now, pretty significant. Or a more limited +49% with 2-1, I guess

[floral solstice]

meme in motion

[manic halo]

Ah really? Imma have to boot up the game

Have a go

[clear heath]

6 stacks is just better in general imo
Even with no charge generation feats, with aura and KB, 6 stacks is easy to keep up

[still hearth]

Purge AB was always better than KF.

Don't @ me

[cloud sequoia]

[still hearth]

[steel flame]

Well with the changes you can keep 6 without having to use bb constantly anymore

[manic halo]

Ok but seriously the gradual decrease is gonna be insane

With 6 warp charges

[still hearth]

Yeah it feels great

[manic halo]

Like

[still hearth]

Not losing all your charges

[manic halo]

Gonna nut

[still hearth]

Because some dude killed the last poxwalker

You were BBing

[manic halo]

Yeah won’t strangle a mf

[steel flame]

Pain

But yeah 6 stacks spam is more disgusting than ever

[spark plover]

I need the monstrous maleus penance done. can someone help me?

[summer prairie]

It's annoying how if you have over halfway charged your BB, you get the warp charge but lose your BB charge, but if you are under 50%, you don't get a warp charge but keep the BB charge

[floral solstice]

20 dollars

[manic halo]

Mf demanding payment

Haha

[clear heath]

Keep in mind, for 6 stack feat to be worse for charges than taking flayer, you'd somehow have to be unable to stay at 4+ charges without flayer.
There's no way you're dropping down to 3 charges from 6 that often. You'd need to afk for 75 seconds to lose all that

[spark plover]

a shield ogryn and 2 other people are required

[floral solstice]

keemo still hasn't paid me 20 bucks

[still hearth]

Flayer is just for more damage now

Get that instant Bulwark pop

[idle bay]

I must confess - when playing as Vet i do shoot enemies with a blue bubble around head if i consider them priority. And if situation is safe i deliberately not shooting them

[uneven drift]

Ask in #flg channel, more chances to get actual help.

[spark plover]

ah

[steel flame]

Aight I'm gonna be straight with you. All these random ass numbers after you peoples names are driving me up a wall right now

[clear heath]

It's just the steam friend code thing

[still hearth]

[spark plover]

@uneven drift any flg channel?

[manic halo]

The numbers mason

What do they mean

The numbers are our beloved’s method of talking to us fool

[steel flame]

My statement stands

[uneven drift]

At first for your region i guess.

[floral solstice]

#vox-lfg-apac for asia pacific

[still hearth]

Is this better

[spark plover]

@floral solstice thank you

[steel flame]

Perfection

[still hearth]

Actually I can do better I think

There you go

[manic halo]

Ok but SURELY next update will be soon and a crafting option will be added

[still hearth]

[manic halo]

[steel flame]

Balance has been restored to my ADHD brain

[forest coral]

Can we get a less asinine game join system

[still hearth]

NO

Best I can do is random disconnects

[forest coral]

[manic halo]

The bad interface is lore accurate and you complaining only makes you more immersed

[forest coral]

If it’s lore accurate too

[idle bay]

At least loading times improved - people with EA-server-grade-potato-PC are no loner making mission to load 10 minutes

[forest coral]

I should be able to complain at you through the internet

[steel flame]

I dunno why they couldn't take all their shit from vermintide and plop it in darktide. HOW HARD IS IT TO COPY YOUR OWN HOMEWORK

[manic halo]

Here I’ll pretend to be a techpriest and your a human who somehow connected to this noosphere ID

[granite knoll]

1 brain burst on pox hound on heresy feels great

[north cradle]

Warp Battery feels good, but I also feel like that might just be placebo

[steel flame]

Its not a placebo

It IS good

[north cradle]

I also haven't picked up a Psyker since I started 100%'ing the other class penances so I may just be misremembering

[steel flame]

Kf has been dethroned for most of my builds

[forest coral]

Kinetic flayer, I’m gonna miss the rng head pops

[north cradle]

I mostly used Warp Battery if I was using a Purgatus, because I knew that I'd also be running Ascendant Blaze

Otherwise it was Kinetic Flayer and Kinetic Barrage

[manic halo]

“Fleshbag kindly remove your hand penises from the terminal rune interfere and report for immediate servitoriastion. I do not know how you have this noosphere ID but you have sullied sacred technology”

[forest coral]

No better feeling that getting jump scared by a shot gunner and then they’re just dead

[manic halo]

Here you go lore accurate UI Interaction

[forest coral]

Or mauler

[manic halo]

Bro shotgunners are the most offensive unit

Like

No sound and one shots

[forest coral]

Shotgunners are built diff

Also ragers are supposed to be loud right

[manic halo]

Well not really one shot but still. And they don’t get suppressed

[north cradle]

Now imagine being a Zealot and your Chastise The Wicked is on cooldown

That's been my experience fighting Shotgunners

[clear heath]

It genuinely is a lot better now that warp charges are stronger and easier to maintain

[manic halo]

Ur easier to maintain

Gotem

[clear heath]

it went from being a purgatus build thing to an everyone thing

[north cradle]

Yeh

[forest coral]

[north cradle]

I wanna see what this 24% damage boost looks like with a Kantrael Mk XII

[forest coral]

Is this the fabled gun psyker

[north cradle]

A weapon to surpass Metal Gear

[manic halo]

Gun psykers are NOT real and if you think you see one report to a superior to be terminated

[north cradle]

Okay so here's what I'm working with, let's see what I can get out of this

[manic halo]

You aren't using a gun on psyker, Are yoi

cause thats illegal

[regal jasper]

Is this a good gun stat roll

[manic halo]

you wouldn't do that would you

[regal jasper]

Im so funny i killed chat

[manic halo]

nah my ass was looking at it for 5 minutes wondering when they added the auto shotgun

[regal jasper]

Lol

[forest coral]

I wouldn’t mind one

[north cradle]

Yeah this is going pretty well

[forest coral]

An extra shooty shotgun for my beloved

[clear heath]

Also has anyone tried the fixed stamina curios?

[regal jasper]

I just thought it would be funny to pull up some l4d2 gun stats to try to fit in with something my lvl 10 ass doesn’t understand

[clear heath]

I'm trying the +3 stam and i can't really tell if it matters for anything but i bet i'll feel it if i take it off

[manic halo]

wait so which staff generally considered best in slot now?

Trauma?

[clear heath]

idk they're all fine imo

[manic halo]

easy

[regal jasper]

I like the zappy one

Haven’t used any others

But i like it

It makes me fell powerful

[north cradle]

Prolly still Purgatus

[summer prairie]

Going from 2 stamina to 5 is, what, 60% block efficiency increase

I guess it matters for DH or when already at high peril

[forest coral]

Definitely purg for carrying

[clear heath]

I'm going from 3 stam to 6 with force sword
and it feels like i can probably block some rediculous shit but i never take advantage of it

[spice veldt]

blocking is kind of a trap

[clear heath]

or maybe i am blocking crazy shit but I can't even tell because it's so effective, idk

[spice veldt]

to some extent

oh nvm this is not the time to have that discussion

yeah you can block a lot of ranged stuff

[regal jasper]

What do any of y’all’s words mean?

[spice veldt]

ranged blocking is nice like after you go up that elevator in vigil station oblivium sometimes

[clear heath]

Honestly i think what i'll feel the most if i take off the stamina curio is the loss of sprint

can sprint for a long time with all that extra stam

[spice veldt]

i've taken off sprint eff my curios in exchange for block eff, and man did I feel sluggish after seeing my stamina drain so quickly

[ocean cipher]

what curios should i go for early on

[forest coral]

I wonder if it’s possible to do a purely pacifist run in dark tide

Where all u do is sprint and push until objective

[summer prairie]

if you run DS or knife, stamina and sprint efficiency don't matter

for mobility

[west crystal]

Are psychers op now after buff?

[forest coral]

Health won’t go wrong

[forest coral]

They’re the same, just better.

[clear heath]

I wouldn't say they're op

[spice veldt]

presumably, you're going to be playing lower difficulties where you have more trouble with melee than ranged, so health is usually the call

go for wounds if you go down a lot and whatnot

[ocean cipher]

any of these good for trying to get the "launch 7 enemies of a ledge"

also do i only need to do it once? or 7 times

[spice veldt]

launch 7 enemies off a ledge one time

[north cradle]

The Espionage mission with the security towers

[summer prairie]

I think if you run +9 stamina and max block efficiency knife/DS, blocking daemonhost attacks costs 1.9% peril. Not that there is any point

[clear heath]

that's so overkill

[north cradle]

Use a Force Sword during the second half of the finale and spam block push

[spice veldt]

The stagger of Psyker's ult scales with warp charges; am I correct?

[clear heath]

i feel like i could probably fight a daemonhost just fine with +3 stam and force sword, although it would be kinda stressful

[ocean cipher]

any of these activities decent for it

[forest coral]

Ye

More charges bigger the stagger/ push

[spice veldt]

so if you're aiming for that penance, make sure you've got some warp charges

[ocean cipher]

note i dont wanna do anything above malice rn

[cyan notch]

you just gotta kite it around a circle

[summer prairie]

You would die with just +3 unless you know how to dodge every attack

[clear heath]

I've already done +1 stamina force sword against daemonhost, but that was pre nerf

[steel flame]

Now they just need to give the first capstone feat a reason to exist in this universe

[spice veldt]

if you're running a Force Sword with decent mobility, you can spam dodge to outrun a Daemonhost

[clear heath]

+3 stamina should be relatively safe

[ocean cipher]

just like, what mission tho

[summer prairie]

with +3 stamina it's still 10x harder than before the nerf

[clear heath]

hmm

[cyan notch]

yea and u can ult every 30s

[summer prairie]

unless you consistently dodge you never get peril back without ult

[cloud sequoia]

[summer prairie]

depends on how much block efficiency you are running of course

[north cradle]

This man blocks

[steel flame]

As fun as +9 stamina is I still prefer taking +6 and a wound on damnation

[cloud sequoia]

no i can run

[cyan notch]

+6 sounds a bit overkill

max id ever run is +3

[clear heath]

well i mean, i almost died and i probably would have if people didn't kill it faster, but i lasted a good 2-3 minutes

it was also like the shittiest terrain in a cramped room too, so it'd probably be safer on some other maps

[steel flame]

I don't use kinetic block with deflector. I don't like dipping into the same resource pool as my staff and my power sword special

[summer prairie]

deflector is almost useless without peril block

[clear heath]

hmm

[steel flame]

+6 let's you block 2 shotguns point blank

[spice veldt]

eh, you get some decent mileage out of deflector with a decent amount of block eff

especially if you spam dodge

[cyan notch]

you can already block shotguns

[steel flame]

Without breaking block

[summer prairie]

peril block makes every point of stamina worth 4

[cyan notch]

yea

ive blocked multiple shotguns with just +1 pretty sure

[clear heath]

imagine pressing F and releasing 2x your stamina worth of peril

peril block is wild

[north cradle]

My new gun psyker feat loadout

[upper galleon]

What level is purge staff unlock

[idle bay]

Discharged AB with 6 charges. Got 3 charges back....

[upper galleon]

Haven't seen one yet

[idle bay]

RNG

[north cradle]

It does what it do

[upper galleon]

But I'm fairly lower level and don't check my alt often

Lvl 15 last time I played

[steel flame]

Like I said I like to spam ps special and have peril maxed out constantly with flame staff so kinetic block doesn't do much good anyway

[clear heath]

it should tell you when you unlock stuff

[upper galleon]

I know but I spam skip the ending

Also I have brain damage and forget things easily so idk if it even popped up yet post game

[steel flame]

I had an ult that instantly gave me 6 back.

Gotta love math

[clear heath]

i feel like it's probably unlocked already then but i can't really remember

[idle bay]

That instantly pasrt is what confused me. It supposed to give charges on Soulfire kill and it takes time...

[clear heath]

maybe you pushed a burning enemy off a ledge

[idle bay]

Some warpkarkery is going on

[clear heath]

or they were really close to dying already

[idle bay]

That was a fresh hoard

[north cradle]

Or were you ulting into a horde being shot at by someone with a boltgun

[idle bay]

6 charges, ult, and immediately 3 charges again

[regal musk]

The answer is the Charge count.

[clear heath]

You're playing purg right?

[steel flame]

Not if the first tick of 6 stacks of fire kills enough enemies at once xP

[regal musk]

6 Charges = 6 Stacks.
Poxwalkers only have 200~ or so HP

6 stacks will hit a Poxwalker for around 130~

[idle bay]

Yup Purg, i was running behind at evac area and casted ult into the chasing hoard (no one shooted at it) and this happened.

I need more samples

So far it just looked weird

[clear heath]

idk maybe they just fell or something

[idle bay]

It was a corridor with nowhere to fall

[regal musk]

.... If you ult with AB at 6 Charges, everything you hit gets 6 stacks of Soulblaze, its literally enough to kill a Poxwalker in 2 ticks

[idle bay]

I just need to play more and see if it happens again

[regal musk]

Go to the meatgrinder to see what i mean

[idle bay]

It takes 3 seconds to kill poxwalker with 6 charges AB

And that charge return was instant

Warpkarkery

Needs more observation 🙂

[manic halo]

whats AB?

[clear heath]

try to get a clip next time it happens

ascendant blaze

[regal musk]

No, it just means some of those Poxwalkers had either alrady taken damage (Team firing into them) or were shot immediately after getting Soulblazed.

[clear heath]

the feat that burns everything on f

[idle bay]

No and no

I was alone with fresh spawn of walkers

That is why that occurance took my attention

[regal musk]

Then it was probably a bug related to how Wrath sometimes casts but doesnt go on cooldown.

[idle bay]

Like - it don't suppose to work that way

Small sidenote: Taking +3 Stamina Curio instead of +1 Wound makes more sense now

[ocean cipher]

how do i use stances

[idle bay]

It's not like i was using those extra wound anyway

[clear heath]

I stopped using +1 wound ages ago

[idle bay]

Reason i was using it - it had 3 great perks i like

[clear heath]

what stances?

[ocean cipher]

the ones u equip

[regal musk]

Probably the cosmetic ones.

[clear heath]

oh those

[regal musk]

Theyre for changing the pose on mission end screens

[clear heath]

they just show up in the victory screen

[floral solstice]

am i the only one who keeps getting stuck at the quit game screen after the patch

[regal musk]

Game gives me the crash uploader almost all the time when i quit lol

[floral solstice]

the game not properly closing on steam is already annoying enough

then again that's probably a steam thing

[steel flame]

Question: Doesn't that 24% damage from 6 warp charges carry over into warp fire tick damage?

[regal musk]

no

tick damage is fixed per stack IIRC

[clear heath]

it might

[summer prairie]

It should

[clear heath]

headtaker blessing still works on zealot flamer burn when i tested earlier today

[regal musk]

Ive never seen the numbers fluctuate in meatgrinder

[summer prairie]

If you have the stacks when the dot ticks

Weapon blessings and perks definitely change the dot tick damage

[regal musk]

Headtaker is a Power boost, Charges are a raw +Damage percentage. Mechanically a bit different, probably why the flamer is affected by it

[summer prairie]

Perks are damage and work

[fierce sinew]

yes

[regal musk]

Then who knows. Many systems are pretty fucked up lol

[fierce sinew]

it does, and is one of the reasons battery was always better for purge

take it to the meatgrinder and see

[summer prairie]

If your weapon has thrust, the ticks even get damage from that when you charge your heavy

[fierce sinew]

the perks on the weapon currently in your hand increase it also

unyielding on axe = increased burn damage to the monstrosity after you apply your max stacks and swap

[clear heath]

zealot pressing F and applying armor pen to burn stacks

game is weird

[regal musk]

Its all warp spaghetti

[fierce sinew]

it's also the reason your mixed horde shout sometimes kills things super fast or things it normally wouldn't kill at all

if you immediately go back up to 6 charges it's boosting the damage on the guys you just burned

you can kill gunners, shotgunners etc straight up now

if you roll well

[idle bay]

Warpkarkery sounds more Dartide 🙂

[manic halo]

trauma staff with lightning staff is fun

Well when another person has it anyways

Stuns them in place

[steel flame]

I like bullying ogryns with trauma staff

Wow ok cant say bully ing

I like knocking crushers on their asses over and over and over as my team laughs at them

[idle bay]

While 6 warp charges are classy and nice.... i find it annoying to keep track on. Back to KF then... sigh

Only reason is me being lazy

[wanton cove]

Well there are prices to being classy.

[idle bay]

I'm swinging between Purgatus and Surge states. When in Purgatus state - this feat is perfectly fine - it's auto 5-6 charges at all times, when in is Surge state - i just ignore charges and it's like 0-2 charges at most times

[clear heath]

idk i feel fine with surge and 6 charges

[wanton cove]

I need to wrap my night up. Think I’ll do so with the new psyker buffs.

[idle bay]

I like playing with both stafs

[wanton cove]

I don’t play surge. Purgatus life.

I don’t have enough patience for ransoms

Randoms

[clear heath]

BB is actually a nice tool on a surge build with KB

[wanton cove]

I used to run KB

But AB is just…good with purg

I run the warp battery build with it - if I ever decide to use another staff KB will def be looked into

[river sand]

trauma > all

[still hearth]

XII > all

[steel vapor]

imagine needing ammunition lmao

wouldnt be me

[idle bay]

Bare hands > all - bitchslap to death as ogryn

Or uppercut to death whatever you like more

[rare furnace]

BANKAI

[lilac tapir]

nice base for future upgrade if they ever make Voidstrike more viable compared to Purg

[still hearth]

Get Unarmored and Flak damage and its decent

Especially with more damage now

You can probably do less than half charge and oneshot shooters

[lilac tapir]

nice idea, although I'm gonna wait until they introduce crafting system to see if there are better ways of getting the perks/blessing that I want rather than just rolling and hoping for the best

[steel vapor]

Im willing to bet the perk system will remain unchanged

[strong radish]

Does the 10% damage change to Bb let you 1 shot berserkers on damnation?

[clear heath]

no

but it's pretty close at 6 charges

sneeze at them after and they die

[strong radish]

Gotchya, thanks

[steel vapor]

It lets you 2 burst bulwarks on 4 charges

Apart from that i dont think there are any other breakpoints - 6 charges also provide no other breakpoints

[clear heath]

so close....

[steel vapor]

I guess it does leave it 1-shot to pretty much anything else tho

[clear heath]

Yeah, as a surge user i just surge into a crowd of ragers and it's a one shot on all of them

they have less than 100 hp left with BB

[steel vapor]

I think crushers are also left with just a sliver of HP after 3x BB

Or was it 2

Probably 2

[wet belfry]

A relevant question would our warp charges in any way give crucial breakpoints when using normal guns?

[clear heath]

crushers die with 3x bb

2 with lacerations leaves them extremely close to death tho

[steel vapor]

No idea, i dont think there are many good reasons to use guns on psyker right now since Vets exist

[uneven drift]

Meme breakpoints through the roof.

[summer prairie]

kinetic overload is pretty good against monsters, in particular with barrage

[clear heath]

You'd have to test the guns individually yourself
But really a vet could just press F and get more damage anyways

[summer prairie]

you can just BB any random trash and get up to 31 stacks eventually

[wet belfry]

The real dealbreaker might actually be how psyker, veteran regenrate toughness

Psyker doesnt regen toughness reliably while in ranged combat outside of brainbursting with warp harvest.

[steel vapor]

Psykers have no gun synergy

[clear heath]

yeah psyker's toughness regen is fucked with guns

[steel vapor]

Only way i see it working is with a high-handling weapon where you swap back and forth between gun and BB

But most of those weapons are pretty bad as of right now

Maybe the brautos could work

[uneven drift]

According to shop, Emprah want me to be a gun psyker.

[clear heath]

iirc vet has 50% ranged power during their F

our warp charges aren't really gonna beat that

[wet belfry]

Honestly i think it all comes down to breakpoints

There will likely frequently be situations were vet just overkills the enemys

[clear heath]

Whatever breakpoints we hit, so will they

And they're also just tankier

[steel vapor]

Same, 380 recon, 380 revolver, 380 headhunters all around

And 330 staffs, if any

[clear heath]

The one advantage i can think of is we can take a gun that completely sucks ass against crushers/bulwarks and just brainburst them to solve that weakness

although vets can grenade bulwarks too

[forest coral]

Flood their minds with anime and vtubers

[steel vapor]

Thats basically purgatus staff gameplay

Guns are worse

[wet belfry]

Psyker does as a class have one other advantage

Our mobility is way stronger then the vets

both in terms of special weapons, base stats.

[forest coral]

Our base stamina regen makes the class naturally good at horde control in melee

[steel vapor]

Vets do have the worst mobility by a whole lot tho

[uneven drift]

Who needs mobility when you delete rooms

[steel vapor]

Not veterans thats for sure lmao

[clear heath]

vet also has higher ammo capacity

[steel vapor]

Its boring tho imo

[clear heath]

at least we can push things

[steel vapor]

Of all 4 classes, vet is imo the slowest paced and most boring

[strange wigeon]

"The nature of randomization and repetitive actions sometimes seen within crafting is something that we are steering to avoid in the crafting system within Darktide. Meaningful choices will be made with strategy and goals behind them, as you set your eyes upon that perfect combination of melee and ranged weapons for your class."

I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad, the dreams in which I'm crafting...

[clear heath]

oh that's my screenshot

yeah i love this game's crafting haha

[summer prairie]

Is your reroller correctly extracting the text every time? It wasn't for me

[strange wigeon]

excellent screenshot, one screenshot perfectly encapsulates why they should jut get rid of rerolling and put in something like Athanor in the game. Pick target perk, spend materials to put it on

gg

ez

[clear heath]

Idk it looks like it does

[ocean cipher]

so i gotta say, so far i like the surge staff of the 3 i've tried

[summer prairie]

If kinetic overload always gave stacks to the target with current highest stacks, it would be pretty good.

[ocean cipher]

surge > void > trauma so far imo

[final bay]

Getting into Psyker, what feats do people actually recommend? Like there's some choices that are worded weirdly and don't really explain what applies, and some that only seem... questionably useful But not sure what's ideal. Prob going flamer, tbh

[floral solstice]

worded weirdly, no explanation is just basic fatshark

but if you wanna run purgatus then probably something like 1-2-1-1-1-2

[ocean cipher]

btw, is there some sort of psyker weapon that shoots like

short range kinetic blasts

saw someone with a rather strange staff that was just firing blasts of short range like, distortion

[crude creek]

Purgatorius?

[clear heath]

Did it look like blue fire?

[ocean cipher]

maybe? it was like

it wasnt fire

[final bay]

Coming from VT1/2 that's a fucking MOOD. I'd uh, kinda hoped they'd learned something, but I really should have known better.

[final bay]

ty tho

[brisk panther]

voidstrike prob

[ocean cipher]

it just looked like these shotgun blasts of kinetic distortion

[spice veldt]

laspistol? For Psykers, the shove gets turned into a force push

[ocean cipher]

def a staff

[floral solstice]

unfortunately this is my first tide game so im new to the AAA fatshark experience

[summer prairie]

purgatus left click?

[clear heath]

Are you sure it was short ranged?

[spice veldt]

like what did this kinetic distortion look like

like just warping in the air, like you'd see with hot gas or something?

[floral solstice]

maybe someone was pushing with a force sword?

[clear heath]

Did it have a shape? Was it a ball? A puff of smoke?

[ocean cipher]

essentially, yknow how psyker projectiles warp the air

imagine a shotgun blast of that warp effect

[clear heath]

might actually be force sword push

[ocean cipher]

slightly blue tinted warp in the air

oh, could be

[final bay]

Condolences. I think. Unfortunately(fortunately?) the core gameplay is always really fun, and they fix shit eventually. It just might take 2 years. This has overall been ~90% what I expected, though some of the decisions (mission board, crafting) have astounded even me

[floral solstice]

valleni what did you smoke, jk jk

[ocean cipher]

listen i just wanna get back to my homeworld

i didnt sign up for this shit

[floral solstice]

well my best guess is still force sword push

fatshark is not creative enough to implement something else that cool in the game

i mean look at our staff specials

[brisk panther]

if youre not using it yourself, voidstrike can look like shotgun blasts if you shoot on enemies up close

[floral solstice]

melee smacks

[spice veldt]

40 dmg melee smacks

60 if you hold down the special

[ocean cipher]

mighta been a mix of voidstrike and force sword

[spice veldt]

it only requires 20-ish smacks to kill a rager with heavy specials :)

[ocean cipher]

imagine tho, some sort of psyker weapon that just fires kinetic shrapnel

like, a short range blast of super strong push

[floral solstice]

welp the best thing we can do right now is imagine

[spice veldt]

maybe the player quickly swapped to the force sword and back to the staff so your brain didn't register it
was it like a gameplay video or trailer footage

[still hearth]

Imagine the staves being actually cool

[ocean cipher]

no in game

[still hearth]

And not just rip offs of standard things

[spice veldt]

ah you saw another player in 3rd person do it

[final bay]

y'all making me miss early VT2 Sienna shotgun builds, when critting through a wave would zero out heat

[ocean cipher]

i didn't actively see the staff being used to crate the blasts, just saw them using staff and force sword

[floral solstice]

just wait for space marine 2

[brisk panther]

i miss the beam staff build and wizards tower from vt1 😄 https://youtu.be/NvviV1dIl3o?t=336

still best map of all tide games imo

[final bay]

Easily. Though if we're talking VT1 I miss my pre-nerf bolt staff and listening to it sling around auto-headshotting That thing was silly

[brisk panther]

haha yea was fun. beam was always my favourite tho despite all the nerfs 😄

[onyx sentinel]

Wait I'm confused, does BB with no stacks one-shot dogs at damnation or not?

[clear heath]

no

it doesn't even at full stacks

[onyx sentinel]

is that 4 or 6

[uneven drift]

Doesn't matter. Even at 6 it can't one shot full hp dog.

[surreal folio]

vt beam looks like a ton of fun

[idle bay]

I played beam Sienna in early stages of VT2 before all the nerfs

it was mass murder device

[light quail]

still, makes it a cinch to finish off

[onyx sentinel]

Is the 33% max damage reduction from Kinetic Shield obtained from 4 stacks or 6?

[spice veldt]

it scales off peril now

[onyx sentinel]

Oh fuck you’re right

[spice veldt]

i've read that the formula is 10% + (0.1% * peril%) from that steam guide by Royale w/ Cheese that reads off datamined data

so you apparently have to literally be at 100% peril to take advantage of it

[still hearth]

I mean you get 10% all the time

[spice veldt]

that's true

[still hearth]

But you'll only be at 33% at 100%

Which is pretty bad

[spice veldt]

if you have 150 toughness, that's approximately an additional 15 toughness

[still hearth]

But I do play around like 90% peril most of the time

[spice veldt]

so like having another +toughness curio

same

[still hearth]

Maybe I should run it more tbh

Especially with stamina now

Can just run one stamina curio with Duelling Sword and its ok

[spice veldt]

I stopped running Kinetic Deflection after the Deflector nerf since I couldn't be a revive bot anymore

and realized that kinetic shield would let me take even more aggressive positions since I can facetank shooters better

instead of having to hold block all the time

[still hearth]

Get 100% peril and then revive

Tank more shots

[spice veldt]

true

with quietude

i've actually done that

[spice veldt]

albeit only against gunners since they do poopoo dmg compared to regular shooters

[still hearth]

It also working on melee is nice

But not super useful

[leaden thunder]

toughness takes more damage from melee right?

[spice veldt]

depends on the attack and enemy

[leaden thunder]

so does it reduce it after the increase or before

[spice veldt]

ah damn hmm

well assuming it's multiplicative, it wouldn't affect the toughness damage received regardless of whether the reduction occurs before or after the toughness multiplier to dmg

[still hearth]

You take the HP damage based on your toughness when you get hit

So before toughness is reduced

So you take the same HP damage with Kinetic Shield with <100% toughness up vs melee

You just take less after the fact since you have more toughness.

And the damage is doubled before afaik. You need a ton of resistance to tank a damnation sniper

Since they do 1225 toughness damage

But yeah if you take away 10% of that

Its the same as if you take away 10% of the base 122.5

[spice veldt]

and apparently, sniper shots have the "Full Spillover" property, which presumably means that if they touch even a sliver of your health, it'll dump the full damage onto your hp
if I'm reading the wording properly

haven't actually tested it

[still hearth]

Kind of, yes. I think if you reduce the toughness damage to below 122.5

It does less HP damage

[glass thistle]

I don’t think pskyer can use just toughness stop a sniper shot

[still hearth]

But you have to reduce 1225 to less than 122.5 to make that happen

[glass thistle]

They do 122 hp damage too

Which almost kill a pskyer

[spice veldt]

yeah; if you take two melee hits in succession from full HP & toughness, you're pretty much at one-shot territory from a sniper

[still hearth]

I unironically prioritize Sniper resistance on all characters atm

[glass thistle]

Always do around 90-100 hp damage on pskyer if you take a sniper shot

[still hearth]

What's funny

Is that

[idle bay]

IMPOSSIBLE!
Big E gift that is not a gun!

[still hearth]

If your toughness breaks

The moment before a sniper hits you

You take 82.5% less damage from the sniper shot

[spice veldt]

excuse me

[idle bay]

And gift was not a shite!

[spice veldt]

ah right

[still hearth]

So its actually better to lose all toughness

Than to have any at all

Vs snipers

If you can do it just before

[leaden thunder]

reminder that shotgunners don't give a shit about that

[spice veldt]

why oh why does it not apply to the fucking ranged attack that broke toughness

[glass thistle]

Not against sniper

[still hearth]

Sniper is regular ranged damage

[glass thistle]

They still one shot me with 2 grim

[still hearth]

Shotgunners are the only ones that ignore this grace period I think

[spice veldt]

tbf, we don't know how the "Full Spillover" property interacts with the grace period dmg reduction

[still hearth]

Yeah but you have to lose the toughness first

Not to the sniper itself

To another enemy

And then get tagged by the sniper

And its only 1s as well

[glass thistle]

That’s not possible at all lol

[still hearth]

Get hit by a bomber

Get staggered

The sniper shoots you

Back

Actually idk if bomber does that

[spice veldt]

smack a red barrel and walk into the flames right before the sniper shoots you

[still hearth]

Barrel flames don't eat your toughness

[glass thistle]

Why not just avoid the sniper if you know there’s a sniper

[still hearth]

Because

I suck

[spice veldt]

i've had moments where i've tried to stagger a sniper with my ult

[glass thistle]

That’s more technical needed to do what you said lol

[spice veldt]

and then I realized it's 3 seconds away from full CD

[still hearth]

Yes, because what I said was meant as a joke

[spice veldt]

and I'm too late to dodge at the point of realization

[still hearth]

I've dodged

Seen the animation go off

The sniper shoots me

I die

[glass thistle]

That’s why I told pskyer don’t take grim lol

Let zealot or ogryn take grims

[still hearth]

I just get HP curios and sniper DR

And its fine

[glass thistle]

Still no good

[crude talon]

I got collateral’d with a vet from a sniper yesterday 🙂

[leaden thunder]

double kill

[glass thistle]

One shot 2 kill by ai

[crude talon]

Yea it was funny

[spice veldt]

me and a teammate have been collateral-ed during that section leading up to the hologram at water silo

[glass thistle]

I still duno why FS make pskyer block even weaker patch after patches

Pskyer already not the best on anything

[spice veldt]

and it spawned directly across at that top thingamajig where the horde was pouring out, so we couldn't even hit it

[crude talon]

I don’t even hate snipers or anything in the game anymore except shotgunners

[spice veldt]

to be fair, the kinetic deflection guardbreak change also made psykers super safe against anything that's not a melee elite since we can now just spawn push without any penalty

[glass thistle]

Kinetic shield is not work with block too

[crude talon]

Y’all ever had 6 shotgunners shoot you all at once? It’s not fun

[glass thistle]

You can still spam push now

[spice veldt]

ah you mean changing it from warp charges to peril scaling?

[glass thistle]

If you don’t get hit, your peril still cool down as force weapon rate

I still use force sword and play the push trick

But I have 60% block effective

[leaden thunder]

like 4 shotgunners can insta kill you on damn I think

[glass thistle]

With the blessing is 60% + 8% I think?

It can still stop shotgunner shots, I duno I need more test

[leaden thunder]

unironcially the most dangerous enemy in the game

[spice veldt]

48 damage if all 10 pellets land

[glass thistle]

Block to peril rate isn’t like hp damage

[spice veldt]

so yeah 4 shotgunners is about right

[leaden thunder]

what's more dangerous

2 beasts of nurgle

or 8 shotgunners

[spice veldt]

and even more dangerous--16 shotgunners

[leaden thunder]

hint

[spice veldt]

o

[leaden thunder]

it's not the daemon puppy

[glass thistle]

About what weapon you use

[spice veldt]

maybe if the beasts of nurgle corners the team

and everyone is at like 1 hp after corruption

[glass thistle]

If you don’t have ammo BoN is more terrible

[spice veldt]

but yeah, shotgunners can wipe a team at the midevent of comms plex

[leaden thunder]

dodge to around them

[spice veldt]

like in a snap

[leaden thunder]

if you aren't thrown up on they can't eat you

[glass thistle]

Problem is when you kite BoNs , AI may send you another horde

[spice veldt]

yeah; i'm think of a situation like that assasination map with the small arena, where at the beginning you have to drop down into a tunnel area

and a beast of nurgle may spawn before you take care of the shooters/enemies at the front

so your only option is to kite to the back if you can't DPS check the shooters

[glass thistle]

@spice veldt that’s the hardest as no way back, but lucky just the start location everyone have ammo

[spice veldt]

or if you don't have a full team, so you can't kill the beast in a timely manner

or you have 4 psykers

so no dps at all

[glass thistle]

4 pskyer with fire rod kill BoN like cake

[azure goblet]

i just wanna say

i queued a damnation with randos we were all 4 psykers

fastest damnation ive ever run

[glass thistle]

How fast is that fast

[azure goblet]

it was 18 or 19 mins

we just obliterated everything

and it was funny cuz in the lobby we were all like oh we're fucked

everything was just perma cc'd

[glass thistle]

Not enough gunner spam, report to AI

[azure goblet]

i was purgatus, had a voidstrike and 2 surges

[spice veldt]

I've had a hi-intensity damnation game with 2 other psykers and a zealot that went really smoothly

even when we took 2 grims

[azure goblet]

imagine ulting and by the time your ult is up again the enemies are still on the ground

[leaden thunder]

had 2 good psykers that turned a heresy into sedition

[spice veldt]

i think somebody with one grim died before we reached the finale at excise vault though

[leaden thunder]

one purge the other surge

[spice veldt]

no wait, it was a hi-intensity heresy game

but aside from that, the psykers I get in games can be reaaaallly hit or miss

like on a particular hab dreyko game, I had psykers who kept on dying because they couldn't melee

[leaden thunder]

that's a lot of classes Ifind

[azure goblet]

also it just occurred to me Surge staff has secondary damage tables for weakspot hits but... can you actually hit weakspots with the secondary fire?

[leaden thunder]

psykers are just squishier often times

[spice veldt]

yeah

especially since our main defensive attribute is our insanely low stamina regen delay

[glass thistle]

If AI throw you a lot dreg gunner , pskyer just have very hard time

[spice veldt]

and I don't think they knew how to push

[azure goblet]

yeah it depends on the psyker for sure, i havent popped myself in like 2 months but most psykers when i do malice speedruns kill themselves like 2-5 times/mission

[glass thistle]

If ai throw a lot scab , that’s easy time for pskyer

[spice veldt]

that's one reason why I don't like surge--it's mediocre against dreg shooters, even though it's really good at surge flak

which is why I bring Trauma instead for anti-ranged

[azure goblet]

thats why i run +25% dmg to infested/unarmored on this surge, cuz i melt scabs either way

[glass thistle]

I don’t think 25% unarmored is enough for dergs

[azure goblet]

no but it helps significantly

[summer prairie]

+24% from charges helps some

[glass thistle]

Also you need the flak damage for shotgunners pick off

[azure goblet]

ehhh

they still die fast

[glass thistle]

2 half charge > 3

[azure goblet]

also the primary fire has the high crit chance so its great for taking out dreg shooters

zap once then primary fire them

[glass thistle]

When I use pskyer I don’t aim v,v

[spice veldt]

true, primary fire is pretty good on surge cuz of that

[glass thistle]

Just push and melee them

[spice veldt]

I think Trauma interrupts shooters in a larger area with a fully-charged blast
I haven't played in a hot minute so my memory might be failing me, but it's momentarily more useful for situations such as where you're coming out of the elevator in vigil station oblivium and whatnot

[glass thistle]

Also I am so bad at aiming the primary attack on rods

I can kill 3 shooter in a sec with a laser pistol, but miss 50-% shot of rod primary bolts

[leaden thunder]

I feel that

[spice veldt]

the aiming on the bolts is certainly wonky as hell

[leaden thunder]

the projective is kinda awkward between latency and hit reg

[spice veldt]

it's fine in the Psykanium but not in-game

ah right, i forgot that latency would affect that sort of thing for projectiles

[glass thistle]

They should make those bolt some kind of auto track

They don’t have much dps already

[spice veldt]

i certainly wish the primary fire were more interesting

[tight saddle]

Is crafting fully implemented yet?

[spice veldt]

no

the last update to crafting is still the perk rerolling

[tight saddle]

lol wtf

ty though

[spice veldt]

see you in a year

[glass thistle]

Also wish the sub class of pskyer is a buff type character

Like putting force shield on focus mate

[spice veldt]

i think that was one of the datamined classes

Protectorate with a shield ability

no idea if they'll implement as is though

I'm waiting for a subclass to come out so that we have a more interesting grenade ability

since I've heard something about throwing knives

i want that shit

[glass thistle]

Right now pskyer just so boring

Also our new weapon is delay forever

Ogryn and zealot have new weapon, how about pskyer and vet

[spice veldt]

yeah, a lot of crowd-control staffs and there's no ranged single-target DPS option
Brain Burst, despite its amazing utility, doesn't require any aim or particular engagement from the player

[winged phoenix]

Would love to play with the Iron arm psyker ability.

Run in, Crack knuckles, wreck dredge faces with warp infused fists.

But alas, Slapping with the bully club must suffice for now

[fresh halo]

Is this a good gift from our Beloved, Siblings ?

[lethal folio]

It's not great for psyker

[fresh halo]

I see

[leaden thunder]

still looks decent tho

[winged phoenix]

Would be ok for some fun axe action on Malice

[leaden thunder]

the low finesse kinda hurts

[glass thistle]

Big E gives me a super void strike with 501

[winged phoenix]

Im currently praying I roll a decent second blessing on this bad boy

[glass thistle]

But I just cant bare the clicks

[spice veldt]

i hear limbsplitter is an amazing blessing to get :)

[glass thistle]

Void strike mechine gun just make my finger tired

[spice veldt]

quell cancelling?

[glass thistle]

Ya

[manic needle]

I mean, you can just not do that

[leaden thunder]

it's not required

[winged phoenix]

[green raven]

Just use a gun

[leaden thunder]

"just play vet"

[glass thistle]

If I don’t do that, it feel petty weak

The stagger to shotgunner is fun tho

[spice veldt]

maybe if i get a nutty infantry autogun with ghost or whatever that blessing that makes you immune to ranged attacks on a closed-ranged kill is

[glass thistle]

Also pskyer don’t get braced agrip

[manic needle]

quell canceling on void just means you end up knocking most poxwalkers around instead of killing 'em

[spice veldt]

yeah, color my surprise when I found out that we don't get any braced autoguns

[glass thistle]

@manic needle they die in 2 hits

[spice veldt]

had to look through my entire inventory to confirm my disappointment

[glass thistle]

I still aiming the heads with mechine gun void strike

[green raven]

I use autopistol with the 10% brain burst chance

[leaden thunder]

every 15 seconds

[green raven]

Pretty cute

[manic needle]

As opposed to one in about the same time + efficient headshot spamming for Transfer Peril

[glass thistle]

@manic needlebut you can waste peril on over kill too

[manic needle]

I assume you either dont have transfer peril or yours is a low rank blessing

[glass thistle]

Spamming need less aiming too, you miss one but volley follows

What’s transfer peril effect?

[manic needle]

Either way it's definitely not required, if you're having issues with it then try using charge shots.

[manic needle]

#psyker-class message

[glass thistle]

Couldn’t see that link for me

[spice veldt]

hitting headshots in rapid succession/continuously quells your peril

[manic needle]

Clicking it doesnt scroll to the old message?

[spice veldt]

including if you're hitting headshots with the same projectile, such as when you're piercing with the voidstrike's secondary

it works for me

[glass thistle]

@manic needle both not work for me

[manic needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032844566971297833/1056302966035992586/Voidstrike.png

Thats what I meant to do

[spice veldt]

oh wait is it just weak spot hit? i thought it was repeated weak spot huh

[manic needle]

No it's way better than Exorcist

[glass thistle]

That one, spamming is better, as you gen less peril with spam

[manic needle]

BUt with Quietude you want more peril generation per hit

So that you slough it off instantly with Transfer Peril

[glass thistle]

I don’t use that feat too, too little buff to damage

[manic needle]

No feat in that tier buffs damage?

[glass thistle]

All the way wrap resist and spam all ability as much as I could

You mean the 5-3

[manic needle]

It's Quietude, Warp Absorption, or Essence Harvest

All of them are based around Toughness generation

[winged phoenix]

Think your confusing the feats around Cary

[manic needle]

And come from the level 5 slot

[glass thistle]

That’s, petty bad. I don’t think that’s good feat

[spice veldt]

Quietude's the one that gives you toughness when you quell

Psykinetic's Wrath is the one that increases your damage based on peril

[manic needle]

It's widely regarded as one of the best

[leaden thunder]

it's any quelling not just active queling iirc

[glass thistle]

@winged phoenix I thought he said the 10-1, I forget feats name, but feats stock

[manic needle]

ESPECIALLY with the Transfer Peril blessing

[glass thistle]

@leaden thunder I know

[winged phoenix]

In your opinion, which would you run instead Cary?

[manic needle]

1st in the level 10 slot is Psykinetic's Wrath, you're probably thinking of Inner Tranquility

[slow karma]

Man, quickplay continues to give me whiplash

The game should not allow you to spawn in mid-ambush/horde, period

[spice veldt]

nah, I think he meant psykinetic's wrath since he was talking about how the damage boost wasn't significant

although, in my very humble opinion, psykinetic's wrath is better; at least for the equinox staffs

[loud nacelle]

Losing my mind over the Going Out With a Bang penance, anyone wanna grp up and try it together?

[manic needle]

You can do either, although Wrath becomes better and better of a choice on higher difficulties

Since you have more and more mobs to headshot

[glass thistle]

@winged phoenix I pick 5-1, as when I need toughness is against shooters, not much head to pop for cooling perils

5-3 best when you shooting mobs with that rod, but horde no threat

[spice veldt]

i run trauma 24/7, so psykinetic's wrath is to hit that breakpoint for poxwalkers if I ever need to blast a horde (which is rare, but nice). Also nice to hit some breakpoints on dreg shooters so that I don't need to fully charge to kill them

[manic needle]

Or, you can Quell while you shoot with the Transfer Peril Blessing, plus get extra free toughness whenever you use your F ability, and the toughness generation from both passive and active quelling

[glass thistle]

Still better just BB and duck back into cover

[manic needle]

You can BB and then switch to Voidstrike for free toughness, too

[spice veldt]

BB is still pretty slow if Kinetic Barrage is off cooldown, so I prefer to whip out a staff that can kill shooters in groups

[glass thistle]

Different feat tho

5-1 and 5-3

[manic needle]

No its still Quietude that we're talking about

Again, it works with the Transfer Peril blessing

[glass thistle]

I am asking to the one ask me which level 5 feat stock I will pick

I use 5-1

[manic needle]

Well with that playstyle I can see why you don't like Voidstrike

[winged phoenix]

Thats fair enough, Im personally in the quietude gang, heresy and above I cant make Essence harvest safely work

[spice veldt]

and i like the comfiness of being able to regenerate my toughness at any time, even if there aren't any enemies around

especially since I like to break coherency

[winged phoenix]

If it had some stacking component similar to Vets lvl 5 feat. Sure, it would be game changing

[still hearth]

Quietitude is also nuts on Purge

[glass thistle]

I can work with void strike, I just cant bare the taps

[still hearth]

Like if you think AB is good

Quietutide proccing on killing a horde

Is just toughness generation

[spice veldt]

battle meditation?

[still hearth]

Yeah

[glass thistle]

But horde no threat

[still hearth]

That combo

[spiral aspen]

would anyone group w/ me to do maleous monstronum achievement?

[still hearth]

Yeah but then you can use it when there's no horde too

And you quell actively

Essence Harvest just feels clunkier to me

[spice veldt]

and you're not usually taking damage against a horde with purg anyways besides some potshots from shooters in the back

[still hearth]

If it was like 10s and 50% I'd be more okay but 5s

[glass thistle]

I love 5-1 more as if I use fire rod, so many way I will gain wrap charges

[still hearth]

That's just not long enough

So I feel I have to constantly BB

[glass thistle]

Your fire dot give you 14% chance to have wrap charge too

[manic needle]

Or if it stacked the timer from multiple procs

[still hearth]

Imagine that

With AB

[manic needle]

Annoying that all it does is reset it

[still hearth]

Stacking a million toughness per second

We Vet now

[spice veldt]

can't believe they made vet's feat stack but not psyker's

i transitioned from vet to psyker and got sorely disappointed from that

[manic needle]

Oh well I mostly meant stacking the duration but that would be incredibly godly 😛

[still hearth]

The Vet feat is selective

But also

BB doesn't kill everything

So its also selective

[manic needle]

So you hit AB and then have solid toughness regen for almost a minute

[still hearth]

Oh yeah

Duration stacking would be insane still

[broken quail]

I’ll have to try quietude, never even tried it cause description was lackluster

[glass thistle]

Btw vet new patch make headshot gives 15% toughness too

[still hearth]

Though both Zealot and Vet can have 5% per second almost always

No one runs the Vet headshot thing right

[glass thistle]

I will try it, as headshot is so easy

[lethal folio]

No, that's why it needed buffing.

[spice veldt]

I never ran it cuz it was broken last time I played vet

[still hearth]

Or

We need to nerf

The good ones

To not be OP

Like we can't nerf Zealot crit DR

[manic needle]

Delete Veteran class, replace with second Psyker class

[still hearth]

And then buff Veteran toughness

Smh

[spice veldt]

? i'm pretty sure we'll totally need a 100% toughness on kill feat

[glass thistle]

15% mean you can do counter fire and ignore melee enemy by just head pop gunner as melee toughness regen rate

[still hearth]

But you already do that with Confirmed Kill

[glass thistle]

With 75% DR

[still hearth]

There just needs to be elites

And there's always elites on Damnation

[glass thistle]

But headshot work on everything

[spice veldt]

not unless I pop them with kinetic barrage

[still hearth]

Popping things faster than Vet?

Impossible

Vet is OP

[spice veldt]

depends on the vet

[still hearth]

Vet with Laspistol

Instant kill elites

[spice veldt]

i got my pick n' mix from a vet that wasn't killing elites but had his ult up, highlighting elites for me

op 10% crit rate

[still hearth]

Nice

The ultimate Psyker + Vet combo

[spice veldt]

tbf it was on the comms plex midevent with some stuff blocking elites

[still hearth]

Vet ults so you can pop heads and give them ult back

[glass thistle]

And guns like IAG Mk1 on vet hand one shot all target with HS (only) make the feat more handly when blindly spam

[still hearth]

Repeat endlessly

[spice veldt]

i don't think i was standing near them or using psykinetic's aura at the time lololol

[still hearth]

Its the secret OP strat

[spice veldt]

ye

[still hearth]

Play 2x Psykers with 2x Vet and just cycle ults

[spice veldt]

5-6 elites to refund your ult by the end of the buff

[glass thistle]

That works too

[still hearth]

Or 3x Psykers

If everyone pops and just kills 6 elites

Instant refresh

And the Vet gets ammo back

[glass thistle]

If so many pskyer, plasma vet will be so happy

[still hearth]

Plasma Vet is all about killing elites though

[spice veldt]

their hunger can never be satiated

[still hearth]

So not really

[glass thistle]

I mean, vet kill enemy behind wall and pskyer kills enemy in open field

[manic needle]

IDC Plasma Vets are still the truest gigachads

[still hearth]

Plasma Vets

[glass thistle]

Prefect

[still hearth]

Chads

[spice veldt]

until they blow up

[manic needle]

Especially when they blow up

[still hearth]

If you play Plasma you're just a masochist

[spice veldt]

then they are revealed to be as falliable as we are

as weak, as pitiful, as delicate

and as funny

[manic needle]

If they blow themselves up youre legally required to do the same in solidarity

[spice veldt]

mmmmmmmmm i think i'll pass on that

i think it would be funny if I got startled by a teammate blowing up into accidentally mismanaging my peril though

[manic needle]

When you go down try to position yourself so it looks like your characters are kissing 😳