All staffs are B tier or higher imo
#psyker-class
still hearth
ornate hamlet
purge and surge are still the best staves.
void was always weak and still is
trauma used to be complete trash, now it's still trash at targetting but ok on peril
shrewd grove
All staffs are B tier or higher imo
still hearth
I'm still not convinced that Surge isn't just worse than Trauma
The upside of surge is mid range I guess
But you spend way more time doing nothing but spamming the low damage surge
willow hazel
But you spend way more time doing nothing but spamming the low damage surge
Surge does better than trauma against flak, it has more range, can hit enemies farther appart, still uses less peril, and is better vs specialists
shrewd grove
But you spend way more time doing nothing but spamming the low damage surge
Honestly i don't see the surge's purpose as being meant for damage it just keeps literally everything off your team whilst wearing them down for a finish
earnest peak
they're both good at different things
shrewd grove
Bulwarks crushers ragers shotgunners everything can just be constantly stunned keeping that damage from coming to your team thats why i like it
willow hazel
Honestly i don't see the surge's purpose as being meant for damage it just keeps...
But just to be clear, it 1 or 2 shots all the flak armoed enemies
earnest peak
depends on your team comp
still hearth
Surge does better than trauma against flak, it has more range, can hit enemies f...
On one target, it also doesn't have more range
still hearth
Bulwarks crushers ragers shotgunners everything can just be constantly stunned k...
What if you did that and also 400+ damage
Instead of 200 to one and nothing to the rest
Surge is better vs ranged tbf
summer prairie
surge does way more damage than that and to two
lunar hollow
voidstrike is best. what other staff lets you go bowling with the poxwalkers?
floral solstice
this again
earnest peak
this again
at its core, its always this
floral solstice
im just done with this argument about surge at this point
west stream
Consider this, laser pistol
floral solstice
feels like someone doesnt actually use it enough
still hearth
Consider this, laser pistol
Best weapon
floral solstice
outside of grinder
still hearth
People just haven't used the XII enough
floral solstice
then use it
tropic pollen
does psyker laspistol shove still charge peril 
still hearth
Yes
floral solstice
preferences debate, my favorite midnight pasttime
still hearth
preferences debate, my favorite midnight pasttime
Which special do you like the most
earnest peak
preferences debate, my favorite midnight pasttime
ya but your pref is wrong, cause reasons
willow hazel
What if you did that and also 400+ damage
Surge staff does ~330 to most of those enemy types compared to the ~380 of Trauma. Against Bulwarks Surge does ~490.
This is not counting crits, which should boost Surge's damage closer to trauma.
Surge not doing damage is a myth. It just does nothing to poxwalkers or yellow range enemies. For everything else it's comparable or better than the other staffs
still hearth
Surge staff does ~330 to most of those enemy types compared to the ~380 of Traum...
It also has a massive drop off per target
floral solstice
like what you like, but also play the game to make an actual valid take about shit
cyan notch
its decent if u crit
still hearth
It's not a myth it's comparison
cyan notch
unarmoured or infested crit is like 80% more or something
willow hazel
Does anyone know if +stamina regeneration affects how quickly Psykers can block attack with the combat knife?
cyan notch
i think he means push attack spam
still hearth
I don't think your block break has anything to do with stamina
summer prairie
I thought so but doesn't affect it
willow hazel
Don't quite understand the question but no
The block attack on the knife can only be done if you have stamina. If you run extra stamina regen to decrease the delay, does it increase attack speed?
summer prairie
The stamina regen delay is what affects that and stamina regen does not decrease the delay
and pretty sure you can do a push attack as long as your stamina isn't 0
willow hazel
Or is Psyker's stamina regen delay already low enough that lowering it further doesn't matter. I.E the knifes attack speed is slower than base stamina regen delay
gloomy obsidian
Psyker buffed or still mid Like my life crisis?
still hearth
Psyker buffed?
cyan notch
i mean the railing buff was pretty huge
gloomy obsidian
Railing like map props?
cyan notch
yea u can bb through railing and fences etc now
shadow onyx
yea u can bb through railing and fences etc now
vagrant furnace
Psyker is high tier if your team is not full of crazy rushers, its pretty powerfull
shadow onyx
Psyker is high tier if your team is not full of crazy rushers, its pretty powerf...
A tier
S tier vet and zealot
F tier : ogryn
shadow onyx
Vet have one of the most OP melee wep in the game
its litteraly the best in every corner
still hearth
Lul
shadow onyx
its just boring as fuck to play
still hearth
Ranged:
S - Veteran
A - The rest
Melee:
S - Zealot and Ogryn
A - Vet and Psyker
Crowd Control:
S - Psyker
A - Ogryn, Zealot
B - Veteran
Mobility is like, S - Zealot and Psyker, A - Ogryn and B - Vet
shadow onyx
Ranged A zealot B psyker and ogryn
still hearth
Not if everyone is using top tier options imo
shadow onyx
like?
summer prairie
a gun
still hearth
Purge, Guns, Ogryn BB or Stubber
shadow onyx
because i'd better have flamer zealot than purgatus, or boltgun zealot than surge
summer prairie
without the bugged ult the flamer isn't much better
shadow onyx
without the bugged ult the flamer isn't much better
just 30% more range better stagger, better dot dmg
still hearth
The upside is that you're playing a Zealot 
still hearth
Ok now we're on meme takes
shadow onyx
the psyker feel just clunky and bad design
shadow onyx
bb should have never exist
spice veldt
what's wrong with bb besides its interaction with warpcharges?
shadow onyx
surge is uni dimensionnal as heck
broken quail
Still feel stronger as psyker than vet, I bring a gun on my psyker and don't find myself missing the vets ult. But I always notice when I don't need to BB to get warp charges since the nearest mauler or rager got deleted in half a second to a kinetic flayer
shadow onyx
no bb is not fine, its boring as fuck and should have been implemented in a better way
west galleon
Really diverse kit?
I snooze
Basic soldier
Real shit
broken quail
BB certainly needs some changes to make it useful in high tier, its basically only useful to conserve ammo and hit things around walls
still hearth
Grenades are really boring and should have been implemented in a better way
shadow onyx
i mean to me, the idea of infinite but niche "grenade" is a dumb idea itself
better to have cool down but real impact
like a mini F
or more peril and more dmg idk
just look at the right click BB and tell me its well designed
spice veldt
10 extra peril is meh, but the speed is the real shitter
shadow onyx
y
spice veldt
right-click charges slower than left-click
idle bay
Grenades are really boring and should have been implemented in a better way
On my zealot i'm going with hammer and flamer - am i a bad zealot?
shadow onyx
right-click charges slower than left-click
at this point just take your ranged weps beside urgatus and preshot
spice veldt
i would rather have either higher peril cost or longer charge time, but not both
BB is going to be one of those weapons that's hard to balance because of its wonky attributes
shadow onyx
the peril generation while charging is stupid as fuck too
spice veldt
no aim, infinite distance, armor/shield pierce, etc.
peril generation while charging is fine imo
shadow onyx
i mean ts so garbage i used this to suicide for penance
still hearth
On my zealot i'm going with hammer and flamer - am i a bad zealot?
Anything works on Zealot
spice veldt
just that it shouldn't have an extra +10% peril gain tacked on
and part of the problem is that the BB feats just suck total ass
wrack & ruin, cerebral lacerations
kinetic barrage is pretty good
but the other two are dogshit
shadow onyx
no aim, infinite distance, armor/shield pierce, etc.
yeah but still not enough dmg for the time spent/ commitment
long wharf
BB and the feats need a rework
idle bay
Still need to run more mission on shouty - just few weapons left in inventory and like 20k gold to buy things...
shadow onyx
Fatshark need rework to make it happened
they cant create decent wizard career since verimintide
back to then, sienna was so poorly designed
idle bay
I played VT2 when Sienna was enjoable to play on battle wizard or something with beam staff
shadow onyx
i find sienna so boring, so abandoned
i'm not the only one when you look at the most popular careers
she is rock bottom
i mean spending my life to cancel fire dagger is the death of my soul
lethal folio
Battle wizard is by far the most popular class currently.
shadow onyx
yeah maybe because people are hyped by the next dlc career for sienna
months ago it was like finding unicorn
and battle wizard was already very good
very powerful on cata+
or weaves
steep shuttle
still hearth
Would probably swap the uses
Primary slow fire but secondary loads up several bolts
long wharf
can't have that, Hedge would just say "Darktide isn't DBZ lol"
still hearth
What of we could throw heretics into other heretics? Genius!
steel vapor
Maybe functions similar to the grav gun in half life 2
@uncut cradle we psykers petition a gravity staff and we also would like to be able to toss the explosive barrels with it
sand bronze
ding lvl 30!
cloud heron
I really just want an anti-heavy staff
a lot of psyker's stuff already ignores armor but we don't have a good way to kill crushers quickly
steel vapor
a lot of psyker's stuff already ignores armor but we don't have a good way to ki...
Isnt palpatine staff pretty good with that? Also a correctly rolled forcesword will 2-shot crushers on damnation 🙂
cloud heron
It's still pretty slow and wouldn't work on monstrosities
steel vapor
Yeah, psykers are not that great at dealing with unyielding stuff
still hearth
BB is generally the best
steel vapor
Best thing i can think of is the ult-talent that gives faster headpops
cloud heron
BB is really like a last resort thing when it comes to big things
like the thing i want an analogue to is really the plasma gun
even if it's not in the same form
similar target selection
still hearth
BB is my go to often
steel vapor
Not necessarily, pop your ult and you 3 shot reapers/crushers in about 1.5 seconds
Its very solid
Pop a few gunners and suddenly your ult is back
Maybe more like 3 seconds
still hearth
The only time I don't BB bosses or Ogryn is if I have a good melee vs them, or I run Purge against Bulwarks
steel vapor
Also plague ogryns are so chill to just melee down ^_^
cloud heron
I don't mean that you can't kill them, but the ways in that you kill them arent going to be the primary ways you want your team dealing with them
force sword is good when it can actually connect with what you want to kill
instead of trash slightly off to the side
steel vapor
I don't mean that you can't kill them, but the ways in that you kill them arent ...
Tbh i find you can have just as much firepower with BB as a Vet in stance, if you do it correctly, so im not sure if i agree even if i see your point 🙂
still hearth
Well I prefer a team focused on other areas
leaden thunder
Also plague ogryns are so chill to just melee down ^_^
just had one go down while dealing 0 damage to the whole group
cloud heron
Tbh i find you can have just as much firepower with BB as a Vet in stance, if yo...
I don't think that's true at all. BB is good for picking targets of opportunity, but it definitely doesn't have sustained damage over time
spice veldt
i suppose one advantage is that you can dodge and BB at the same time
though you could do the same with a gun once you get used to how dodging throws the sights off momentarily
west galleon
I use bb in every horde if i got my stacks up. Let the melee freaks and shooters take care of the small fry while i sit back and get the elites in the back.
Obviously this doesnt work as well in tight spaces
spice veldt
for my build (Trauma staff + FS), I can stagger an elite forward and nuke them with my force sword, so BB is pretty much only used for killing bulwarks or ranged elites in my case
iron marten
Ascendant Blaze vs. Kinetic Barrage? I've only been using AB since it's nice to set everything on fire from so far away regardless of staff, but does the BB with AB do better for monstrosities and such? Wonder if it rounds things out better
long wharf
I use bb in every horde if i got my stacks up. Let the melee freaks and shooters...
you're using BB wrong if you have teammates capable of hitting the elites
because any teammate capable of hitting those elites is capable of killing them faster than you
west galleon
I know
The reason for that is adjacent to the reason why i only use surge next to voidstrike (on any difficulty)
Bc i feel like doing it this way (as long as i dont wipe the team)
long wharf
alright
long wharf
I understand "for funsies"
west galleon
Thats also a good way to describe it, i just really take care not to grief the other 3 "for fun"
still hearth
As long as it works, it works
clear heath
there's also usually more than like, 1 elite to kill
the vet could just go and kill the other elites
cloud heron
I think you're underestimating the vet's bandwidth for elite killing
long wharf
yeah
still hearth
Killing more is usually better anyway
long wharf
in the 6 seconds you take to BB one elite (and on heresy+ you likely aren't killing in one BB), the veteran has killed 2 or 3 elites
that's literally the vet's job
cloud heron
It would be more effort for the vet to avoid killing your BB targets than to just kill your elite plus another
long wharf
on malice-, a well-geared vet can one-shot most elites with a headshot
two-shotting ogryns
there's never a situation where a good psyker is killing with BB faster than a good veteran is with a gun
lethal folio
That keeps up to damnation with certain guns.
clear heath
it's not about doing it faster
it's the fact that there's always more to kill
long wharf
it's like comparing your typical truck to a tractor for pulling a thresher assembly
clear heath
i'd actually much rather the vets kill the 500 shooters that are gunning down the team
spice veldt
i usually just imagine the vet's sightline and BB elites that they won't prioritize
i get some elite kills if I do that
long wharf
sure, you could possibly do it with the truck, but that tractor is always going to do it better and easier
I only target elites if I think the team can't get to them before my BB kills them
I prioritize groups of shooters if I can
clear heath
I'm not even talking about the worry of someone stealing your kill
I just mean you should always be doing something, even if the vet can do it faster. It is everyone's job to deal damage
iron marten
Admittedly, I use BB on Elites to highlight headshots for my trigger happy Vets that didn't see them first. It's like a moth to the flame and works every time to get them to shoot at what I want them to prioritize
long wharf
I'm not even talking about the worry of someone stealing your kill
I just mean y...
this is very true, and if the only option is "BB the elites while hoping the veteran doesn't kill the one you're targeting first", then so be it
but if there's anything you can do other than that, you should
still hearth
Even if the Vet takes the kill
That's the same as two people shooting it the same time with plasma
Minus the ammo cost
clear heath
two people shooting with plasma is probably worse lmao
long wharf
much worse, yeah 🙂
still hearth
But if you're BBing it's presumably a moment of respite
vagrant furnace
Veteran aint going to kill every single one élite on damnation, thats a lie
long wharf
we aren't discussing what happens when you don't have a veteran
without a veteran, you better hope the rest of the team brought some kind of ranged damage
clear heath
there's always like 10+ elites onscreen in damnation anyways
you will find something to kill if you really want to
long wharf
or you brought void
long wharf
until it gets fixed
vagrant furnace
Even with one good vet on your there is just too much happening for him to deal with every elite
long wharf
then it'll still be meta, but people will be fighting for ammo with it
vagrant furnace
We dont talk malice here
still hearth
It'll likely still do more damage than Void does (cope)
long wharf
especially if you have the weakspot damage blessing on it
still hearth
What's maxed Void damage atm? Fully charged it's around 400?
north cradle
I just found out that I don't need to Brain Burst to proc Psykinetic Aura. I don't know why I thought that was the requisite action
west galleon
Hm
spice veldt
lmao i was like that too
i assume you're running kinetic barrage with it
usually popping elites with BB
so when I kill an elites with melee, I get surprised when my ult comes back quickly
west galleon
I just cant warm up to soulblaze, thats the true reason barrage is my go to
long wharf
soulblaze doesn't feel very good to me
west galleon
I hate dot management
long wharf
it doesn't feel impactful
it'd be better if soulblaze did double the damage it does now
west galleon
Agreed, that or a bigger spread
still hearth
Soulblaze has an 8s duration
long wharf
even that would be far weaker than burn dots, though
leaden thunder
it's not like wow
west galleon
Bc you need to apply them to the next enemy
leaden thunder
you point and shoot
still hearth
it'd be better if soulblaze did double the damage it does now
What
west galleon
you point and shoot
I mean im not saying this is warlock level dots
still hearth
I'm being meme'd on right
west galleon
dunno i am somewhat serious
But im also no researcher that could break down the exact reasons and stats for why i am saying the stuff i do
"Talking out of ones ass" as they say?
still hearth
Fair
I've used it a lot though and this thing melts everything, basically the same as flamer in practice
You just need to stack it hard on big targets
long wharf
you may be "melting" things, but nowhere near at the speed the flamer does
north cradle
Purgatus pulls its weight
long wharf
"stack it hard" means multiple full charge blasts on the big targets
shrewd grove
bald aah
leaden thunder
goofy ah
still hearth
"stack it hard" means multiple full charge blasts on the big targets
Unlike the other staffs that.. Oh wait they also require several charges
clear heath
it doesn't need to do as much as flamer
both flame weapons are more than enough horde damage for the team
still hearth
As long as you're not literally the only person alive then clearing the mob and doing serious damage to the elites and specials in one
long wharf
my biggest grip with purge specifically is that you can blast a horde, and it seems like most enemies just keep on coming right at you, not caring they're on warpfire
it doesn't feel powerful
leaden thunder
really? I notice it staggering things
still hearth
That's fair. It doesn't explode things like the Void or Trauma
long wharf
and I dislike the primary attack
still hearth
But it will stagger mamy things
long wharf
mamy things indeed
leaden thunder
it'd be boring if all psyker staves had the same primary, but i'd rather have it then the puff
long wharf
the puff feels like a waste of peril
leaden thunder
it probably is
vagrant furnace
it does staggers a lot, its perfect vs doggos
clear heath
it's just something for when you don't have time to charge
long wharf
can purge primary knock a poxhound out of its pounce?
long wharf
it's just something for when you don't have time to charge
I'd rather have the otherwise standard staff projectile
leaden thunder
or like
give the staves all something different as their primary shot
if you are just gonna give one that it's weird
long wharf
have the purge's primary projectile do a small AoE that applies soulblaze
still hearth
Purge primary should be a flame explosion around you
Slam the staff down
Stagger around you
leaden thunder
that'd actually be cool though
long wharf
that doesn't sound like a weaker primary attack
long wharf
yeah, make that the staff special
still hearth
Core identity
long wharf
in all seriousness, the staff bonk needs to be replaced by a unique special for each staff
I guess that'd be immeasurably complex, though
clear heath
i think they're just really proud of the staff bonk animation
someone worked hard on it
shadow onyx
soulblaze doesn't feel very good to me
it is with purgatus and x6 wp
still hearth
It was probably meant to be a melee at one point
And they just kept it for the special
long wharf
It was probably meant to be a melee at one point
it'd make a funny melee weapon, though
long wharf
staff strikes with primary and secondary, and then the special be a chargeable blast
leaden thunder
and the 10% of bashes that aren't shite are for ogryn
clear heath
A force sword that could actually cast a projectile would be so cool
leaden thunder
propa spellsword
still hearth
Imagine
Making space wizards
And this is all you come up with
To be fair the only obviously finished class is Veteran and even then half the guns are just unbalanced against eacg othee
long wharf
because they pivoted away from having swappable parts
they clearly rushed to get the game into the state it was released in
still hearth
Yeah
west galleon
What would be an ability that psyker could have that would not be added due to balancing?
long wharf
psyker getting life-sense
why the vet gets to see through walls and the psyker doesn't get to feel enemy life signatures is bullshit
still hearth
Yep
long wharf
psyker being able to lock onto marked targets with BB without LoS
can't have any synergy for psykers with other players, though
clear heath
it would be cool if we could see an outline of the enemy we BB
sometimes i just bb into the distance and have no idea what enemy i actually hit
frozen osprey
why the vet gets to see through walls and the psyker doesn't get to feel enemy l...
literally says through his lines that he can not only feel but read minds so yeah i agree
clear heath
at least let me wallhack the thing i'm in the brain of
long wharf
if vets can share what their ult is showing them
if we can track enemies that other players callout/mark
psykers should be able to lock onto those enemies with BB
west galleon
can't have any synergy for psykers with other players, though
So there could be a darktide that is just "blunt squad"
long wharf
So there could be a darktide that is just "blunt squad"
it's called 4 ogryns
iron marten
It'd be a cool utility as well if psykers automatically had scripts and grims hilighted and outlined In yellow like Vets do. Ogryn can carry canisters without movement penalty as a passive, why not give Psykers an ability that helps them help the team hunt down those pesky books?
long wharf
that's not a bad idea
leaden thunder
carrying a grim on psyker should enable friendly fire
long wharf
that's not a good idea 🙂
leaden thunder
it'd be funny though
west galleon
Arent people saying that psyker is a support class?
leaden thunder
obviously it's not a good idea
long wharf
psykers should be able to carry grims without corruption damage happening
still hearth
Arent people saying that psyker is a support class?
Kek
leaden thunder
I feel like that's the opposite of how that'd work
still hearth
In the same way any stagger is support
safe pendant
Am I actually color blind? Purgatus fire is blue? I've always seen it as a white flame
whiteish blue
clear heath
but it's also very clearly blue
safe pendant
I'm calling it white flame and no one can stop me
west galleon
Wfire eh
leaden thunder
it's warp colors
clear heath
my friend had fucked up monitor settings that made everything more white
red looked like bright orange for him
maybe you have the same issue?
steel vapor
Its blue fire of tszeentch if you wanna be really specific about it
steel vapor
I know it was a joke
leaden thunder
ah
steel vapor
:p
iron marten
long wharf
tzeentch is okay, though
lament topaz
How's it goin' my favorite schizos?
long wharf
I'm not schizo! You're schizo! Shut up, that's what I said!
safe pendant
We're all in a dream
long wharf
she lives in Canada, okay?
lament topaz
Uh huh...
hoary hearth
Wet noodle force sword
safe pendant
Force sword without the force
tawny swallow
it’s a sword
frigid marten
a forc
idle bay
So... Boss Shield Explosion Pushback
Can be prevented by breaking a shield with Slide Attack.
Or just by crouching next to the boss.....
WTF?
idle bay
Wet noodle force sword
Roll +20% Block Efficiency , and the Deflector Blessing and it's decent for blocking shots for a few seconds 🙂
idle bay
Oh! Shiny! Grabbing it for my vet in case if Fatshark suddenly stops loving vets and nerfs Power Sword into a stick with sparks
idle bay
But they also hate players
frigid marten
So... Boss Shield Explosion Pushback
Can be prevented by breaking a shield with ...
the pusback can be prevented if the boss don't hit you with the pulse explosion if i remember correctly.
minor wedge
Oi, Lunatics. Someone of you go try and blow yourself up inside a beast of nurgle and see if it instakills
we just thought of that in zealot chat
safe pendant
How about pulling out a flamer inside a beast of nurgle?
viral acorn
We tried that but apparently weapons get clogged and jammed in it
clear heath
does plasma explosion and psyker explosion do the same damage?
leaden thunder
probably
clear heath
wondering which class is better at killing itself
safe pendant
Vets set records with how fast they die after being revived
viral acorn
Vets easily. Trust me I'm known for being right
long wharf
it'd be interesting to see what happens if a BoN eats a psyker that's just started the self-destruct animation
lament topaz
I assume nothing.
Because why would FS code all that when they were too busy trying to hide their money grabbing behind a game?
long wharf
yeah, I wouldn't think FartShart capable of thinking about edge cases like that
and yet, still curious to see what happens
viral acorn
Fat shark gotta let you guys blow up in a beast of nurgle. It would be amazing
long wharf
the psyker may just explode and go down, letting you out of the BoN
lament topaz
While I would like to say that FS had nothing to do with the state of the game and it was Tencent's fault, I know better.
clear heath
You can take damage inside BoN
I learned the hard way when it walked into bomber fire
leaden thunder
love that mechanic
long wharf
nah, Tencent didn't make FartShart screw up Darktide
leaden thunder
also being dragged into it by a mutie
still hearth
I think if you get dogged when exploding
It instantly goes off
Someone showed a clip of it
long wharf
so the psyker may not even get swallowed by BoN, it'd just trigger the explosion immediately
long wharf
not the will, though
minor wedge
Do it for the greater goo..... i mean for the emperor
lament topaz
The greater guchi.
shadow onyx
Oh! Shiny! Grabbing it for my vet in case if Fatshark suddenly stops loving vets...
i already play antax personaly
i just dont like the need to spam special button
it break the flow
still hearth
Just do the block cancel instead
shadow onyx
to cancel special animation?
full kite
y'all sleepin on knife
cloud heron
Nice
still hearth
to cancel special animation?
Apparently if you do it after H1 you won't lose charge on your sword
shadow onyx
vale creek
this looks like when somone is modding a source game and does not care about clippings
and this is a payed skin ._.
im really sorry for ppl whose actually spent additional real money for this
lament topaz
I remember when people were upset about the robot eye.
They were upset that it was moving with the character’s facial muscles.
wanton sandal
this looks like when somone is modding a source game and does not care about cli...
giant eye looks cool tho
clear heath
this looks like when somone is modding a source game and does not care about cli...
the hand is entering the warp lmao
vale creek
giant eye looks cool tho
look good but that just hurst
vale creek
also some l4d2 modders doing better job replacing weapons
vestal stirrup
So, lore wise, what causes the psyker to explode? Is it really just the warp energy? Because I'd figure going too deep in would more be like getting posessed
Or is it something like an inquisiton planted explosive, to prevent you from becoming posessed if you go to far
delicate smelt
psyker becomes a portal for a demonic entity to enter realspace , so by lore everytime you go over 100% peril and "explode" you should spawn a beast of nurgle from your corpse, but you know, videogame.
vestal stirrup
Eh maybe the lore explanation is just that the Psyker tries to shut it down by knocking themself out
devout cosmos
Isn't it the failsafe that's rigged to blow up?
vestal stirrup
There's a failsafe?
pine relic
Does anybody want to do the Psyker penance on blackout?
leaden thunder
see the perils table for rogue trader if you want a look at some
delicate smelt
considering that everytime you go into critical peril you start hearing daemonic voices, its always a demon.
devout cosmos
There's a failsafe?
That's the hood thingy on all psyker stuff. To deflect the skull shrapnel etc
Too much demons and the emperor blows your head up with c4
leaden thunder
you are just closer to the warp, hence hearing the voices
devout cosmos
Iirc
leaden thunder
the explosion is just a representation of warp energy build up releasing
which can summon a daemon
but not always
it's just easier to have it explode then to put in a whole list of random shit that can happen when you perils
devout cosmos
Inquisitor had it warping in demons and other entities
It was awesome
And also not great for survival
vestal stirrup
Inquisitor had it warping in demons and other entities
What's inquisitor?
leaden thunder
Inquisitor martyr
vestal stirrup
...
leaden thunder
40k diablo like
devout cosmos
What's inquisitor?
Aarpg like Diablo
leaden thunder
action rpg
devout cosmos
Arpg with autocorrect..
vestal stirrup
ah
delicate smelt
maybe its what happens when you roll a double 1 or 6 with a Psyker on tabletop where your casting literally blows up in your face and if it takes out the psyker it procs an friendly fire aoe around them too.
delicate smelt
just your normal sanctioned warp use in the Imperium.
cloud heron
So what all did we get out of january again? was it just the one big balance patch?
vestal stirrup
I think so
scarlet bear
man it intresting to hear exploding is best case sititation XD
limpid lily
Many many many things can happen from digging to deep into the warp, accidental daemon summoning is one of the dangers and is something sanctioned psykers are trained to avoid much like possession. It is not always a accidental summoning when you become overwhelmed by the warp. The description of the warp changes from psyker to psyker, but there is always something watching you if your connected to the warp, hence the dark and Malicious whispering we hear while near 100 percent. The table top games do a great job of showing just how many events can happen from digging too deep or trying to control too much energy. Exploding is a option but believe me it is far from the best case situation.
It is however preferred over bringing a daemon into real space.
azure oar
vestal stirrup
Many many many things can happen from digging to deep into the warp, accidental ...
What is the best case?
limpid lily
For perils? I think it was something like a localized earth quake or making a will test to gain corruption and insanity
And or taking a very hard fear test been a hot minute since I looked through the perils but I can assure you exploding isn’t the best but it also isn’t the worst.
Technically on the chart exploding is the worst result you can roll but I would argue that summoning a daemon and emperor forbid a kornate
vestal stirrup
Very worst case?
limpid lily
Is worst
vestal stirrup
What’s the worst thing that could happen
maiden wolf
Worth picking up?
still hearth
Worth picking up?
pine relic
limpid lily
In lore summoning a greater daemon. Which takes one hell of a mess up. But in table top probably I consider summoning a daemon worse. An explosion will kill you and maybe hurt allies. A daemon when your unprepared will kill your whole part if it has the time.
maiden wolf
I'll grab it in case they ever buff gunker
not like I'll ever find a good staff in the melk shop
still hearth
They'd have to buff the gun first
iron marten
in all honesty though it'd be nice if they revamped the psyker a bit to make guns usable or at least made equipable weapons available to all of your characters like in V2. I assume they would so it's an investment of sorts
sacred monolith
pine relic
you can use the gun as Psyker, it's just in the current game we can't see other players' gears, making it inefficient.
leaden thunder
the HH series of auto guns is unfortunately just bad rn as well
maiden wolf
in all honesty though it'd be nice if they revamped the psyker a bit to make gun...
I would love that, I have a really amazing revolver on my Psyker.
pine relic
the blessing in this game is much stronger than feats, if you get a gun with good blessings just use it.
limpid lily
@vestal stirrup hope that helped.
west stream
Pistol pistol pistol pistol
I just love pistoling
but yeah the biggest issue is psyker has some great horde clear
so it's usually better to bring one of them staves
unless zealot is packing flamer
pine relic
I don't use purgatus staff now. if I want horde clear I just switch to zealot with the flamethrower, its much more powerful than staff.
the staff has a lower range and much lower damage compared to the flamethrower, might as well use surge staff to kill the armor enemies.
rare furnace
Purgatous has capacity to reach 40 soulblaze stacks on one target I think two psykers delete
Don’t remember but someone was talking about it
still hearth
I think max stacks is 31 overall
pine relic
I don't think you can, the soul blaze damage is capped.
still hearth
But I've not tested if two blaze applications are separate or combined.
vestal stirrup
Fire is fire
limpid lily
I found it to be way it e fun to play with so effective or not it’s fun
pine relic
I also noticed zealot's passive that gives them damage and attack speed also applies to the ranged weapon, with the F ability, low health build can deal insane burning damages.
still hearth
It doesn't give damage to guns
And it also doesn't affect the braced rate of fire
Only the primary (?)
So its basically only the F armor reduction that works for Flamer
pine relic
I shoot much faster with the laser gun.
lethal folio
Retribution gives generic attack speed, the innate passive gives melee attack speed.
pine relic
Are you sure it does not give damage to the ranged weapon? I can't test it on the grinder, but from the description, it should.
still hearth
Ah, sweet summer child.
Nothing in this game does what it says.
I've not tested itself but a reasonably reliable steam guide has a lot of hidden stats and other sources also note its melee only
pine relic
The Martyrdom looks like a general damage modifier and should apply to all sorts of damages.
lethal folio
It probably works if you tap fire the gun, automatic refire probably doesn't use attack speed the same way.
still hearth
The descriptions aren't bound to what they do
pine relic
Great, I will keep playing veteran then.
still hearth
Well Vet doesn't get a flamer either way
Though really the Flamer is just insanely overtuned at the moment
pine relic
Is Vanessa your in-game name? I think I played with you before.
still hearth
Nope
pine relic
It's the best horde clear. but zealot itself is rather, embarrassing.
still hearth
Intriguing.
pine relic
but still better than psyker
sharp epoch
da hell is an S tier 😛
still hearth
It's the Super tier
sharp epoch
^^
still hearth
Having played every class and way too many hours I'd say that overall all classes are at least A tier in most things.
pine relic
I mean, if your whole team is useless you are gonna shine with any class. zealot just happens to be the best clutch.
sharp epoch
I have a thing for casters, so my choice was obvious
still hearth
Zealot has the best clutch, the best mobility, the best melee, great ranged options, the best horde clear, the best survivability
Veteran has the best sustainability and the best ranged.
While sucking at melee and being decent at horde clear.
Meanwhile Ogryn is the tankiest of them all, has some amazing melee weapons and aside from ammo their guns are actually pretty crazy.
And Psyker gets to have guns with no ammo, the second best ranged, the second best melees, the second best survivability.
pine relic
Of all the classes I play Ogryn the least. the last time I play him I almost fall asleep.
pine relic
Zealot is the only class in which I finished all the penance.
proud mantle
should i get
im assuming it doesnt work on trauma secondary, but with how blessings are coded i wonder if i can transfer it to a voidstrike once crafting is done
leaden thunder
idk if it's worth trying on it
still hearth
im assuming it doesnt work on trauma secondary, but with how blessings are coded...
Probably not.
Considering how their system works at the moment it makes most sense if its only between the same weapons to me.
But we'll have to wait and see.
But That 5% is basically a free primary shot if you WS, if not more?
proud mantle
yeah
proud mantle
Probably not.
still hearth
I mean they can change things obviously
But all blessings can be overwritten and plenty are.
So whether it counts as the same one between different weapons
Who knows
clear heath
Considering how their system works at the moment it makes most sense if its only...
maybe they're completely reworking how blessings work and that's why crafting is taking so long 
west stream
maybe they're completely reworking how blessings work and that's why crafting is...
The copium is thick throneside, it seems
mental junco
guys, is this one decent?
lethal folio
Flak
mental junco
thx will give a try(
mental junco
lol
long wharf
🧑🍳 💋
slow karma
lmaooooooo
I've literally NEVER seen a roll that low on ANNYthing
I would buy that purely for posterity
pine relic
yeah, 1% damage, never seen it before, save it for the collection.
slow karma
It'd be even better if every other stat was effectively maxed out
pine relic
finally got the penance
lament topaz
Based.
pine relic
you know, you can get it easily if you just ask an Ogryn nicely.
I wouldn't put much effort into it too, but the blackout is the perfect condition for this penance.
west stream
oh yeah cause the dhs
fierce sinew
the hard part isn't killing the monstrosity, it's convincing 3 other players not to do the same
pine relic
the hard part isn't killing the monstrosity, it's convincing 3 other players not...
It's not that hard, find another Ogryn and make a private match.
pine relic
I can help you guys later, but now I need to eat and finish my due.
cyan notch
its heresy bots are basically paper
fierce sinew
once we can bot match alone it'll get way easier for people who still need it to farm
killing your bots isn't hard
west stream
I am still to get the shove people off a ledge one
spark parcel
I am still to get the shove people off a ledge one
Same tbh
pine relic
yeah, it's a little bit hard to do with just one player, better find another.
fierce sinew
a bunch of extractions can give you that
pine relic
but three players are definitely enough.
spark parcel
I threw a grenade into the dark randomly today and got the “stun a sniper” penance on my zealot tho
west stream
grand
yeah I helped someone get MM
but ogryn had to go so never got around to doing it
3 people is simple enough
1 tanks, 1 handles horde if any
other, performs one of the worst penances devised by man
pine relic
find another veteran, so many shooters as always, it gets worse in the dark.
forest coral
hey guys, which perks do u run for duelling swords
west stream
anything on hit is good
maiden wolf
hey guys, which perks do u run for duelling swords
You mean Perks, Feats, Or blessings? I really like +stamina as a perk, the duelling sword has a base stamina of 2 so its really noticeable.
maiden wolf
hey guys, which perks do u run for duelling swords
As always, Quietude and Kinetic Deflection are great, run it with any high peril staff for free toughness whenever you go into melee.
forest coral
like weapon perks
maiden wolf
hey guys, which perks do u run for duelling swords
The Duelling swords tend to have lots of crit blessings, so +crit and +stamina are my go-to perks
forest coral
kk ty
maiden wolf
kk ty
As psyker you can always use brain burst if you don't have other armour penetration options.
pine relic
didn't know this exist.
maiden wolf
Stamina curios are bugged rn, but when they're fixed they'll be really good with duellin sword
maiden wolf
didn't know this exist.
Yeah, its the only unique blessing on trauma staff. I think its really cool.
I really love looking for rare blessings. I hope I'llbe able to combine them into sime crazy builds later down the line. Maximum blazing spirit and warp nexus could make for a neat combo.
scarlet timber
Guys
What's the point of the dueling swords ?
Specially version v ?
Or mark v
pine relic
this one on the trauma staff is pure garbage though.
maiden wolf
this one on the trauma staff is pure garbage though.
NGL, it is trash, but I like it.
long wharf
for trauma, it really should be on hit, not on crit
maiden wolf
Guys
Basically the same niche as the kife. High mobility, passable horde clear, great dodge, very responsive. Also you can use the thrist. special while sprinting.
long wharf
With pstker im confused on when to pull out my melee weapon really
depends on what staff you're using
maiden wolf
With pstker im confused on when to pull out my melee weapon really
If it isn't a force sword, run quietude, you'll regen toughness with the passive quell while holding the melee.
blissful kestrel
I forgot its name
Voidstrike
scarlet timber
I see thx
I found it to be the best for killing a horde of gunners
Which is my least favorite enemy type
maiden wolf
Like
It lets you play super aggro, and works with any melee weapon but the force sword. I like to use the Antax, but I also find duelling sword super fun.
scarlet timber
It lets you play super aggro, and works with any melee weapon but the force swor...
I I thought the version 5 one meant to have better single target damage
But kind of sucks against carapace
maiden wolf
I I thought the version 5 one meant to have better single target damage
I think so, I couldn't recall what the different marks do. Remember that it has really good mobility, so whike it lacks raw damage, you can stay safe whike using it.
pine relic
I have two configurations, purgatus staff + tactical axe and Surge staff + dueling sword
forest coral
duelling swords dodge distance is amazing + with a decent mobility stat on it you run very fast
but its a good all rounder option like umi said
one of the few weapons out there that does both armor pen and passable horde control without having to rev up
forest coral
you can kite bosses indefinitely with duelling sword as well
scarlet timber
Tbh
Ifs weird but the dueling sword
Gives me the old witch hunter feel fron vt2
sonic horizon
oops! all psykers!
long wharf
that's the name they have painted on the outside of the black ship that brings the sacrifices to the Astronomicon
fluid cove
People complain about psyker feeling weak, but any time I get in an all psyker match WE ARE THE DAMNATION. hard to get overwhelmed when nothing can approach you and everything is burning and exploding
lament topaz
Sefoni or Hadron as chosen gf if you could?
neat summit
People complain about psyker feeling weak, but any time I get in an all psyker m...
Fuckin facts
4 psyker BB a crusher? It’s gg
pine relic
Sefoni? really?
lament topaz
Yeah really.
sonic horizon
People complain about psyker feeling weak, but any time I get in an all psyker m...
I know right?? Especially when there’s variety. The combination of the electricity staff and flame staff alone is really great
Like, honestly i did better in this match than I do in most matchups cause there were so many openings to attack enemies
sonic horizon
that's the name they have painted on the outside of the black ship that brings t...
Lmao
full kite
y'all sleepin on femboys
cyan notch
with*
ashen schooner
sefoni, can do whatever you want in the psykarnium
half iron
y'all sleepin on femboys
weird way to spell psykers
sharp epoch
weird way to spell psykers
Let me guess, you play the big one with muscles ^^
half iron
Let me guess, you play the big one with muscles ^^
i play as a femboy that shoots blue fire
sharp epoch
there there 🙂
half iron
uwu
ornate hamlet
People complain about psyker feeling weak, but any time I get in an all psyker m...
Out of all classes Psyker feels like it has the slowest start, especially if you want to do Space Wizard shit. Staves are... too rare compared to guns, by far
(I know this is from a few hours ago, I turned off the ping in the reply)
unreal echo
i play as a femboy that shoots blue fire
It’s like a flash bang but with words
half iron
It’s like a flash bang but with words
i’m just that good
still hearth
Good morning, psykes
strange wigeon
Out of all classes Psyker feels like it has the slowest start, especially if you...
played a lot of psyker. Not a single emp gift staff and melk hasn't shown a staff in weeks. Shit's wack
my psyk has the best gun collection on Atoma though, my vet's in shambles
ornate hamlet
Lmao
shrewd grove
wish the white colours on this hairstyle weren't so bright
isnt even the brightest white option either
cyan notch
idk how much more darktide i got left in me
still hearth
idk how much more darktide i got left in me
Need 5 million for each
cyan notch
i think mats are 1 mil cap
fierce sinew
Not sure if discipline or really poor store luck that you've resisted giving hadron more of those to brick your purchases with
impressive either way
unreal echo
Need 5 million for each <:Shiva_ThumbsUp:787356084812906506>
What are you trying to buy 
unreal echo
My god …
still hearth
Gotta be stocked up for crafting changes
unreal echo
Is there a limit on weapons ?
unreal echo
Gotta be stocked up for crafting changes
I got a feeling we gnna be able to craft guns eventually
still hearth
Soon™️
forest coral
soon 
cyan notch
craft grey guns with 312 rating that costs 500 plasteel and 200 diamantine
sudden siren
is toughness curios still worth it after the fix please?
steel vapor
is toughness curios still worth it after the fix please?
Yes
It was brokenly good, now its just solid
dull python
which perk should I reroll?
steel vapor
Ooft
dull python
or should I at all?
steel vapor
which perk should I reroll?
I guess stamina > sprint efficiency, if 1 stamina is more than 15% of your total stamina
young ridge
Stamina is for cowards
topaz tiger
o
dull python
should I stalk RNG shop for another staff? or surge staff is fine
I heard that void staff kinda meta or something
steel vapor
should I stalk RNG shop for another staff? or surge staff is fine
Surge is good, its anti armor, but not good vs hordes
Solid vs shooters and bulwarks too
Not that good vs hordes so you might want to pair it with a cleave weapon
dull python
Not that good vs hordes so you might want to pair it with a cleave weapon
axe with BM?
steel vapor
axe with BM?
That would work, sure
If you get a purgatus staff then its flipped on its head, you might want to focus more on headpops for single target dps and have a faster weapon, like for example a duelling sword to deal with stragglers
glass thistle
emperor give me this, looks good
dull python
I rarely see staffs at all 🥲
steel vapor
Same
glass thistle
you can see, only 2 rod, all auto guns
steel vapor
Havent had a staff over 340 in several days, and i check 10+ resets every day with the app
Have a 380 recon las and a 380 revolver on mu psyker tho so there is that
glass thistle
play like jedi 😛 blaster and saber
past pollen
any of you guys play gun psyker unironically?
forest coral
hey guys, for trauma which perks do you aim for
past pollen
25 flak is always nice imo
indigo kayak
my psyker has more 380 guns than zealot and vet
past pollen
lol classic
indigo kayak
I only just recently got a surge that was good, 370. looking forward to melk updates
near wyvern
any of you guys play gun psyker unironically?
I do at times
lethal folio
For trauma: If you don't use Psykinetic's Wrath feat then you need infested to kill poxwalkers. Otherwise you grab unarmoured for dregs and flak for scabs.
near wyvern
hey guys, for trauma which perks do you aim for
Doesn't really matter since it's a CC stick not a damage stick and picking PW will allow you to reach trash break points on Damnation for battle meditation.
If you got a really good damage roll on it you could technically go with infested & unarmoured and inner tranq instead.
If you have blazing spirit on it you should definitely roll +5% crit chance on it and use AB.
rocky cedar
For trauma: If you don't use Psykinetic's Wrath feat then you need infested to ...
You can also reach that BP with a high damage roll and a few warp charges
But yeah I prefer warp resist with charges and an infested roll so you can sometimes kill with part charges
cloud heron
I just noticed, even the level 3 penance helmet has clipping issues
hollow wasp
how di ya manage pick'n'mix
cyan notch
kinetic barrage vs shotgunner/gunner waves
hollow wasp
ya I get that but never seem to get that 5 gunner squad
and all these damn vets sniping them
you got a good map recommendation?
shrewd grove
you can edge your peril when brainbursting
cyan notch
commsplex interrogator section
steel vapor
you got a good map recommendation?
i did mine on the relay station one by accident
cloud heron
you got a good map recommendation?
Throneside during the interrogator espionage before the elevator. Not sure if that's the same place blooddrunk meant
but 5+ gunners spawn every time the interrogator goes down
long wharf
Doesn't really matter since it's a CC stick not a damage stick and picking PW wi...
Uh, I don't think surge can roll blazing spirit
near wyvern
Uh, I don't think surge can roll blazing spirit
Trauma
long wharf
Ah, right
cloud heron
that it's taking them so long to do anything with blessing crafting is actually killing me
cloud heron
kinetic deflection can't block range anymore?
It's force sword's deflector blessing that blocks range
it just can't block it while ressing anymore
indigo kayak
ah, sneaky change, thanks
cloud heron
without kinetic deflection though it will use way too much stamina to be practical
cloud heron
Just read the patch notes.
I don't think they put it in the patch notes
that's why everyone thought it was a bug at first
wet jacinth
While ressing no
cloud heron
die
sacred field
how di ya manage pick'n'mix
On the mission where you defend the train at the end there should be at least 5 specials around before you drop down, if you ask your team to let you kill them you can get it there quickly. Helps if vet presses F first
long wharf
die
I wouldn't even bother spending the mats to upgrade
chance is too high of bricking that curio
leaden thunder
isn't the general strat for curios
to get a blue one with good stats upgrade it to purple then if it doesn't need rerolling upgrade it again
steep pulsar
yo..and lol im trying to bang out my penances as well 😆
steel vapor
Is this any good?
leaden thunder
seems solid
still hearth
Is this any good?
That's almost as good as it gets
steel vapor
Yeah i kinda figured quell speed might not be as important
still hearth
The only swap I'd want is Quell Speed and Damage
I'll have to test how much difference Quell Speed actually does
steel vapor
Its a lot, it goes from 0-100% quell speed
still hearth
Except
It doesn't actually
80 in Quell speed gives around 66%
For some reason??
steel vapor
At 80% damage you also go from 16 to 17 damage
still hearth
Its either not linear or the stat is a different thing than a %
I think we checked around 40% quell speed and 80% quell speed and it more than doubled the value it said but it was still weird af
Tbf the direct damage is far less important than the burn stacks
cloud heron
I'll have to test how much difference Quell Speed actually does
Purge benefits a lot from the 10% chance for 10% quell psyker passive
steel vapor
Yeah, im actually most happy with the cloud radius
steel vapor
Always found that to be the most impactfull, psyker or zealot
cloud heron
speaking of purge damage again, has anyone figured out what "burn intensity" means as the substat for damage?
steel vapor
speaking of purge damage again, has anyone figured out what "burn intensity" mea...
Probably how often it ticks
still hearth
How often the direct hit does damage
But I've not gotten
A low enough % roll
To not deal damage 3x per second
SO I can't test
cloud heron
but then burn also has the application rate substat
still hearth
Yes the damage and burn application could be separate
cloud heron
so is soulblaze application not an on hit effect?
or is the rate at which soulblaze applies a function of burn intensity AND burn application rate
still hearth
I will admit its speculation, as I mentioned, I don't have a low Damage Purge sadly
And even then I think it goes from .32 to .4 in burn intensity
steel vapor
Nobody knows, maybe we get proper tooltips next week
Tbh we should just compile a bunch of questions of this sort and toss it at the CM's, have them pester some devs about it
still hearth
@lethal folio do you have a clue how burn intensity works for the damage stat on Purge/Flamer?
Does anyone have a low % damage purge they could test and see?
brittle crest
vet chat is a dark place
cloud heron
Do you have something against people being horny?
cloud heron
okay weirdo
long wharf
there's a difference between being horny and being a filthy uncultured weeb
still hearth
So testing with my solo Purge it does seem that the idea that the damage and stacks are separate and based on the stats
But I can't confirm without a staff with lower damage or lower burn
Which I don't have
Because with 67%+ damage I get three ticks of damage and 71% burn I get three ticks of DoT
From spamming the staff to fire as soon as it can
olive ember
long wharf
pretty much
west stream
Alrighty time to find an ogryn for MM
iron marten
Melk's weekly reward should be crafting material bonus if you finish all the contracts instead of more ordo dockets
long wharf
when you hear Sour Milk yell at you as you run by "I have some contracts for you to look at today"
there should be daily contracts
iron marten
that too. dailies would be nice
wet jacinth
long wharf
save it for #veteran-class
lethal folio
One is dot application, the other is damage time.
still hearth
But Damage doesn't affect the burn DoT at all, right?
Also any Voidstrike enjoyers here that can help me figure out how to use it?
long wharf
https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-druski-gif-20560325
no, cut this shit out
I swear to god I will bring the inquisitor here immediately
still hearth
Psyker chat is surprisingly the least horny.
lament topaz
Do it.
still hearth
Other than Slaneesh worship.
lethal folio
Damage just does braced damage, not dot.
Voidstrike is all about lining up many dudes and then sending charged balls around head height.
And it doesn't really get more complex than that.
still hearth
I'm just wondering because people keep saying its an anti-shooter staff
leaden thunder
it's the longest ranged secondary on a staff right?
still hearth
But I feel like aside from peril cost or lucky line ups, BB is basically faster at that
leaden thunder
that's prolly why
lament topaz
Voidstrike is my favorite staff because I can make ball jokes.
lethal folio
It's faster and cheaper to send a half charged ball with a hitbox large enough to not care about cover
But it's slower than guns
still hearth
I just don't get a kill on stalkers without a mostly charged ball
At 63% damage
But maybe it gets better at max?
lethal folio
Damage is important for saving you charge time
still hearth
Wait
Does it actually drop off in damage
Per target?
I can see it more with a maxed Damage and Charge Speed staff now
long wharf
no, there's no drop off in damage with void
you do more damage as you charge
the time you spend charging a little further to kill a target is saved by not having to charge again for the same target(s)
still hearth
I just noticed I did way less damage shooting through enemies but it was actually just the head hitboxes not being hit so it wasn't a weak spot
long wharf
yeah, the size of the charged projectile means you have to aim above heads to get headshots
but it's also why you can get headshots on enemies behind cover
still hearth
Its just funny because dreg stalkers
Are a bit taller than the dreg bruiser
And the scab shooter
So I kept hitting their torso
long wharf
if you don't hear that Spak sound, you didn't get a headshot
it's great audio feedback
still hearth
Its also kind of stupid
That you can't get WS damage if it doesn't penetrate
Because it becomes an explosion
long wharf
are you sure?
still hearth
No matter where I hit the mauler
It does Flak Damage
And doesn't indicate a WS
Actually
It does give me the orange marker
But not orange damage text
Or sound
Comparing the damage I get it definitely does WS damage
long wharf
which makes sense
long wharf
oh yeah
long wharf
it's pathetically small
lethal folio
Explosion is mostly for stagger and suppression
sterile lake
Voidstrike is my favorite staff because I can make ball jokes.
I think it's the coolest, I wish it would do something on t4 and t5
long wharf
it does do something, just not enough of it
even at full warp charges it's not quite enough at max charged shot
still hearth
Voidstrike suffers from a bit of an identity issue I feel
I think if they dropped the explosion and stagger and focused on it being a railgun it'd be better
fierce sinew
if they just buffed the damage by 50% (so it played on damnation the way it currently does on malice) I think it would be fine
lethal folio
It can't deal with specials very well, the maniac dmaage is terrible.
lament topaz
I think it's the coolest, I wish it would do something on t4 and t5
Ahem. "Charging my blue balls."
sterile lake
yeah it kind of plinks off of anything above a regular enemy and even the regulars it only gets through one and a half of them, at full charge
until t3 it is this mighty powerful weapon that cuts a path in the enemy lines, and after that it is just a pea shooter
still hearth
It still wrecks hordes
still hearth
if they just buffed the damage by 50% (so it played on damnation the way it curr...
But then it'd be OP in Malice
Gotta balance around the average gamersr
Except Purge exists in Malice and is even more of a broken stick there