psyker-class

[wet jacinth]

Perhaps

[slow karma]

Y'know... I don't feel like I should have to explain why invalidating loadout choices with stuff like this isn't fun but I get that you can lean into the transient nature of builds to succeed in this game

[fresh reef]

can anyone explain to me why Voidstrike does less damage than advertised and Trauma more?

[near wyvern]

Perks?

[wet jacinth]

Name

[near wyvern]

Can't really zoom in with phone to see

[fresh reef]

Trauma has +20 unaramoured

but it still shows 375 in the table

hypothetically should leave the dreg shooter with 25 hp

[near wyvern]

Perks are not applied to the table. The table is base_damage*armour_mod with all weakspot/critical multipliers in the value as well on the respective columns

[wet jacinth]

[fresh reef]

Ah, good to know

[wet jacinth]

[frozen osprey]

using a purg skin on trauma... cursed

[wet jacinth]

[fresh reef]

Still very odd that Void seems to have more than half of it's m2 damage as explosive

[wet jacinth]

[near wyvern]

So if you have a perk and you want to get an estimate of the damage you take the value on the table and then calculate in the perk damage as well.

min_total_damage = table_damage * (1 + perk1/100 + perk2/100)

min because the damage values are actually floating point values and the table is always rounded down to the previous integer. The UI labels in meat grinder are however always rounded up.

[wet jacinth]

[fresh reef]

Interesting

@wet jacinth here's the attention you wanted

[wet jacinth]

[near wyvern]

@dry oar take a bathroom break

[wet jacinth]

It is weird you can use staff cosmetics interchangeably

[fresh reef]

you fool, you pinged the wrong one

[dry oar]

Lmfao

[wet jacinth]

[fresh reef]

tfw quirky and unique letters

[near wyvern]

FML too many siblings

[cloud heron]

What a wipe

[wet jacinth]

Formerly SolaceLXIX at least on discord.

[near wyvern]

I take no solace in this incident

[wet jacinth]

Steam and etc should still be SolaceLXIX

[dry oar]

I found my lost sibling through an accidental ping

Crazy

[wet jacinth]

[cloud heron]

apparently if you're in a trapper net long enough you just die randomly

[near wyvern]

No need to thank me

[dry oar]

OK

[near wyvern]

It builds up corruption which eventually kills you

[cloud heron]

Trapper net? i've never gotten corruption from a trapper net

[wet jacinth]

That's all enemies that ensnare/trap you

[cloud heron]

and like, i didn't here. I died with that same amount of health

[wet jacinth]

Though the rates corruption builds up on each is different

[near wyvern]

Then you haven't had an idiot who stays behind and gets netted when others take the drop

[wet jacinth]

Imagine if Mutants were just chargers that kept smacking you into the ground

[near wyvern]

That would make them just different dogs

Bull dogs if you will

[wet jacinth]

A Mutt

https://tenor.com/view/dog-ugly-gif-26293762

[magic burrow]

hounds = hunters
Mutie = charger
Trapper = smoker
Poxburster = boomer
Grenade guy = Spitter
??? = Jockey

[frozen osprey]

ragers sure feel like jockeys if they're targetting you down

[austere estuary]

the zealot is the jockey

hopping all over the poor locals

also new extension update really cool with the matching dropdowns now

as in they match the look of the site more naturally

[vagrant cedar]

jockey is not released in the early access

[lethal plover]

Main new things of darktide are sniper, reapers / gunner line, and I guess bulwarks

[manic needle]

Bulwarks are just scaled up Shielded Storm Vermin, CMV

[floral solstice]

oh wow look at this nice IAG! on my psyker

[clear heath]

time to become gun psyker

[forest coral]

emperor gibing all best guns to his special little psykers

[cyan notch]

what is endless horde how come people keep saying that

except for the bug on excise vault theres no endless horde

[vagrant cedar]

YES THERE IS @cyan notch

AND IT"S A HUGE PROBLEM

_>

people play with surge 24/7 on diff3

and can't deal with 2 mobs at damnation

what a joke

[lethal plover]

endless horde is what high-intensity was called before release

that's what endless horde is. unless I misunderstand the question

[cyan notch]

oh

did they change just change the name or actual modifier

[lethal plover]

just a rename

[cyan notch]

damn so there wasnt actually any endless hordes in endless horde

[teal kite]

Not bad for a drop only it dropped on my PSYKER

[fresh reef]

ayo what the fuck

[vagrant cedar]

buy

[glass badge]

Finally got pick & Mix. now i just need to find out what mission i havent finished on heresy.

[hoary hearth]

Grats

What duelling sword do you prefer?

[floral solstice]

mk 5 for me

[cyan notch]

oh well double confirmation now

[floral solstice]

what did they change with slab? think i missed it in the notes

[fierce sinew]

if it's the same as deflector (which is what this screenshot implies) no longer blocks ranged attacks while reviving

[lethal folio]

Reive no longer blocks gunfire

[still hearth]

But the shield never did that?

[proud mantle]

maaaan what the fuck

[cyan notch]

maybe slab shield no longer blocks ranged attacks normally

[vagrant cedar]

just so that everyone is on the same page
slab = ogre shield?

[cyan notch]

yes

[gilded cloud]

I only play on malice. I still suck with surge. Any tips?

[floral solstice]

uhh spam cast elites and shooters till your team kills them

or tell us what you're struggling with

[fierce sinew]

how good surge is in a given run depends a lot on how good your team is

[floral solstice]

honestly on malice it shouldn't matter much, it's the diff where people at 30 unga bungas the whole map

[fresh reef]

W or L?

[austere estuary]

wooah

pretty shocking nerf to deflector huh

Really thought that one would turn out unintended

[manic needle]

People are coming out of the woodwork to say it's OP now that it's nerfed

[austere estuary]

[still hearth]

My favorite take is that Psyker is now useless.

[manic needle]

Funny how silent everyone was about it before that though. People will bend over backwards to justify anything a developer does

[austere estuary]

true but it goes both ways

nothing will ever be bad/good that they do

[still hearth]

I've not had Deflector on a single weapon and yet I've managed to do Damnation runs on Psyker

Maybe I am a god gamer

[manic needle]

Well yeah it's not a crutch, hence why there wasn't any reason to nerf it

[austere estuary]

exactly

[west stream]

Tank psyker shall show up again

[manic needle]

It's just remarkably petty

[cyan notch]

you dont need deflector it just helps you res teammates who get downed in shit positions

[austere estuary]

it's just a neat thing to be able to build

[lethal folio]

Slaughterer is the real forcesword blessing anyway

[austere estuary]

trappers, psykers, dogs, muties, enough gunfire in general - all would still stop you and so on

[manic needle]

Dont worry the devs will find a way to nerf it eventually

[cyan notch]

good thing you have two blessings so they arent mutually exclusive

[still hearth]

They were scared of all those people in Malice that could save allies

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-anime-chuckle-gif-10903422

[austere estuary]

[still hearth]

The devs have openly stated they don't balance for high difficulty

So they literally nerfed Deflector

Based on MALICE or below

[manic needle]

The devs are Vet mains who play Malice and get mad whenever anyone does something they cant do

[still hearth]

[austere estuary]

yeah, after this patch ditched usage of basically all my melee weps that aren't the FS I have with slaughterer 4

[supple skiff]

Wait did they change deflector again or are they calling the no ranged block on rez intended

[austere estuary]

yeah, they said it's intended

[manic needle]

The latter

[supple skiff]

Okay so competency is a problem through the entire company then

Most needed change right there

Ffs

[still hearth]

I mean Stamina Curios are still bugged

And that's literally

Two values in the code

So someone missed that postit note

[supple skiff]

Alright so here’s a hot take

Deflector was fine

[manic needle]

They have multiple Psyker abilities and penances with the same name lmao

Warp Battery vs. Warp Battery
Mind Over Matter vs. Mind over Matter
Psykinetic's Wrath vs. Psykinetic's Wrath

[supple skiff]

The reason it was changed is because so many folks went out of their way for it and burned mats to get it

[manic needle]

It's so hilariously bad

[still hearth]

If they cared about people burning mats

They would've just adjusted the system values

[supple skiff]

I’m thinking more in terms of time played

Now a lot of psykers have a different item to chase in Darktide “endgame”

[cyan notch]

like what exactly

lmao

[still hearth]

What are Psykers chasing

Yeah.

[supple skiff]

Couldn’t tell you

[olive ember]

Yeah i'm not going to call the recent nerfs "bug fixes"

[supple skiff]

Something else

[still hearth]

Also that Dev comment. Slab shield couldn't block bullets while reviving anyway so

[olive ember]

cuz they are just shitty nerfs

[still hearth]

Only Psyker got hit

[manic needle]

To be fair it was the CM and all they said was that they were discussing blocking while ressing with it... unless there was a different comment besides Aqshy's?

[still hearth]

This

[slow karma]

We're still bitching about deflector I see

[supple skiff]

Like they removed KD not stopping passive queuing and that eraser enough

[cyan notch]

idk i dont play shrek so i cant comment

[coarse oyster]

Ogryn can get you up anyway

[manic needle]

Usually, but not if there's gunfire

[supple skiff]

They probably don’t know that

[cyan notch]

i think they were replying to the freaktacular guy

[coarse oyster]

Well if there are a lot of gunners he will get shredded anyway

[cyan notch]

i have no idea how slab shield works

[slow karma]

Yeah. Take out the shooters.

Like you're supposed to

[still hearth]

Probably just confusion.

But the Slab Shield wasn't nerfed as far as I know

It didn't block bullets while ressing anyway.

[slow karma]

That just means they need to try again

[supple skiff]

Was there anything in the notes that referenced the removal of rez blocking?

[slow karma]

But also Fatghetti

[supple skiff]

Cause I don’t remember seeing any

[slow karma]

They rarely get everything in every time they patch

[still hearth]

Not directly but in an off-handed way.

[manic needle]

Just dont die tbh

[still hearth]

It was something like "Fixed blessings being active while weapon isn't active"

And while you're ressing your weapon is technically not active.

Even if you are blocking.

[slow karma]

So it's actually just collateral

[supple skiff]

Yeah guess that covers it in a technical sense

[still hearth]

But then they said it was intentional.

Kind of like how they said that suppression was intentional

Then nerfed it by 75%

[manic needle]

[still hearth]

I mean I can understand that you aren't allowed to say "opsie"

[slow karma]

Yeah, they are a mess

[still hearth]

But seriously

[slow karma]

Uh

Nah nevermind

internal company politics can go jump in a star

[still hearth]

And here's the thing I can believe them.

Its not a "bug"

The values were put there

They were just bad

But in the same vein the toughness regen curios aren't a "bug"

They're doing exactly what they should

Its just that they did it wrong

[supple skiff]

Mfw nerfing force sword is higher priority than a balance pass on the kantreal XII

[still hearth]

Kantreal XII is fine

Wdym

Tbh I think its other guns that are shit

Rather than XII being too strong.

[manic needle]

They need to just own up to the mistakes instead of making themselves look like clowns. Instead of saying the values were intended they could have just said they would look into it and get back to us lol

[coarse oyster]

Plasma pls

[supple skiff]

Kantreal is fine in our hands

[still hearth]

Yeah but they probably can't say that.

[manic needle]

Ehh any sort of corporate non-answer wold work tbh

[still hearth]

It took like 2 months to get the CEO to say "Opsie"

[slow karma]

I'd rather they say nothing

[cyan notch]

anybody use chainsword and if so does the special consistently stun elites? sometimes crushers just shrug it off

[slow karma]

If it's not the truth, keep it.

[coarse oyster]

yeah but from that 2 months 1 month was holiday

[still hearth]

I mean at least they are fixing the game, hopefully.

[slow karma]

They're sure trying

[still hearth]

I'm sure no one works on holidays if things are on fire.

[manic needle]

Not very well but they've got the spirit

[coarse oyster]

No. Use Trauma Staff, permastuns everything except mutants

[still hearth]

I still think the game will become great.

Its their style.

Release a broken mess.

[manic needle]

Maybe they just need to keep rolling out random Psyker nerfs to boost their morale in the interim

[still hearth]

Fix it.

[slow karma]

This is a fucking game

[still hearth]

Polish it.

[cyan notch]

thats not a melee

[slow karma]

It's not that important

This doesn't risk anyone's life or livelihood by being in a rough state for a while. They're allowed respite.

[coarse oyster]

You don't want to melee that much as a psyker tbh, I tried all melee weapons on it and the force sword still feels the best

[still hearth]

It kind of does risk people's livelihood

[slow karma]

Sure does not

[still hearth]

Otherwise they'd not even have made the statement

[slow karma]

They're the ones that run this show

[cyan notch]

ok but that doesnt really answer my question so no thanks for that input

[manic needle]

Thats a fine line if they're going for a live service model

[long wharf]

hard disagree, the combat axe feels the best

[manic needle]

You have to keep players' attention

[supple skiff]

we should run a psyop and convince them trauma is OP to see if it gets nerfed

[slow karma]

Who's employed is not our decision

[long wharf]

has the most satisfying thunk when you headshot enemies

[still hearth]

Yeah but something set a fire under them.

Which hasn't happened on any of their older releases.

[slow karma]

The live service

[coarse oyster]

It's decent but doesnt have unlimited dodge 😛

[slow karma]

Because you're right. They do need to keep people engaged

But not at the expense of their sanity

[still hearth]

[long wharf]

FartShart is 100% behaving differently to community response for Darktide vs previous games

[coarse oyster]

Forcesword also stunlocks elites with special

[slow karma]

Them working through the holidays would not have been healthy for them

[coarse oyster]

except muties ofc cuz they only care about surge staff

[manic needle]

Probably the posts of people pointing out the exact same patterns of behavior in previous games going viral had some influence

[slow karma]

Full stop.

[supple skiff]

deflector and alt fire is why you ran FS

[cloud heron]

force sword does cool magic stuff which automatically makes it the best psyker melee

[supple skiff]

^

[cyan notch]

my guy this doesnt answer my question im talking about chainsword and you go on about trauma and force sword

[manic needle]

Based and Warppilled

[hoary hearth]

Is full deflector build still viable or is it a complete garbage now?

[still hearth]

I don't disagree.

[supple skiff]

its still fine

[manic needle]

Sorry Blooddrunk wish I could help but Im not a Chainsword Enjoyer

[still hearth]

But that doesn't mean that their CEO couldn't go "Yeah we kinda messed up, we'll fix it when we get back. Really sorry."

[supple skiff]

lost alot of clutch value tho

[still hearth]

Or they actually told people its an unfinished game

And didn't sell it at a premium price

[manic needle]

This might be the sort of thing Zealot chat could help you with though

[still hearth]

[hoary hearth]

Can you still tank dh?

[cloud heron]

I'm still using deflector and it hasn't really changed that much. Losing block while revive sucks a lot but I think the quell changes mostly effect non-force weapons

[still hearth]

Not without black magic.

[cold mesa]

Aka dodging?

[supple skiff]

if non force sword was used for that then probably not

[still hearth]

Macros but dodging can be done.

[supple skiff]

peril quelling stops when you block with KD now

[manic needle]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a Daemonhost

[floral solstice]

just dont get hit

[slow karma]

You're right. But corpo shenanigans and gamervitriol have conditioned many game studios to not say anything until they have something heavily rehearsed ready

[hoary hearth]

I'm talking full deflector build, so FS with deflector, feats and stam and block curios

[supple skiff]

speaking of macros, that silly las pistol gun fu still a thing?

[long wharf]

chefs kiss 🤌

[still hearth]

Which is funny because that's the exact thing people hate.

[cold mesa]

Likely yes

[slow karma]

There's no fixing any of this. And I don't expect better unless a company is just like... better than this one

[still hearth]

So I don't even understand that.

[narrow jolt]

would it have given them cancer? or maybe brain tumors ? in my or most peoples professions , of actual working , when you mess something up you gotta fix it.

[long wharf]

I wonder if I should report Kinetic Deflection not taking peril resistance feat into account as a bug

[slow karma]

Yeah and yet it's not changing

You have to basically not fuck up

And that's impossible

[coarse oyster]

It's shredding is slow af and doesnt deal much dmg if you are not Zealot, hence I wouldnt recommend it on Psyker.

[long wharf]

you apparently don't understand Swedish labor laws

[manic needle]

Might as well, maybe they'll actually change it

[supple skiff]

best hope for any kind of corp change is for them to go bankrupt, and their assets and talent be bought out by corp with better managment

[long wharf]

businesses in Sweden are required by law to not allow employees to work over that period of time

[manic needle]

Its a Psyker buff though so prolly not

[long wharf]

it's labor law mandated time off

no options

[cold mesa]

Newsflash: fatshark is a swedish company and europe has something called employee rights

[slow karma]

Your gaming habit is not so important that they need to sacrifice their downtime. You've been in America for too long.

[narrow jolt]

but they sell a product in america, which then can have a law suit filed against them?

[cold mesa]

You may not have heard about them if you live in the US

[long wharf]

such a lawsuit won't go anywhere

[manic needle]

You can wish for this but then there's the chance they get bought out by someone like Activision or EA

[long wharf]

they aren't an American company

[cyan notch]

yet again, not what im asking at all im specifically asking if the special stun on elites like crushers is consistent because sometimes it doesnt stun and other times it does for me

[supple skiff]

not a wish, just an observation

[floral solstice]

yeah not consistent for me too, i dont think you can even interrupt rager's chain of attacks but at least evisc is super consistent with stunning elites

[supple skiff]

and you can totally sue a foreign company in another jurisdiction, its just enforcment of a judement thats an issue

this is assuming there's a legit cause of action here, which I doubt there is

[cyan notch]

hmm ok thanks that kinda kills the weapon a bit for me

[floral solstice]

yeah pretty much why i dont use it much

[safe crystal]

Im guessing its a similar situation as in VT2, where some enemies would gain an insane amount of stagger resist (notably berserkers, plague monks and chaos warriors) during their attacks, and you'd need to have high enough damage to stagger them out of it, or just pure stagger power. Im throwing a wild guess and assume you havent been able to stagger them out of their attacks after a certain point specifically?

[frigid burrow]

What counts as a 'chained secondary' for warp flurry? Is it just spamming rmb attacks whether fully charged or not on my staff? Is there a window I have to charge my shots first or does it need to like just spam at min strength

[lethal plover]

had a good lights-out run with 2 surge psykers and 2 ogryns
in no light a surge psyker is like a vet

[idle bay]

Ahahah... Melk just dropped another 380 gun .. for my Vet this time

[supple skiff]

"Thank the Emperor someone reigned in the psykers, they were getting too powerful with the ability to do something unique other than shock spam. I hear their stamina regen gap is shorter than other classes, they should look into that next"

[manic needle]

Laspistol or Stub Revolver?

[cyan notch]

sometimes it trades with ragers and it doesnt stun on immediate hit only like 2 shred ticks in then it registers and one rager attack slips in other times crushers are winding up their long overheads and dont get stunned at all but sometimes they do. i know enemies have more stagger resist when attacking but it seems weirdly inconsistent

[narrow jolt]

@manic needle btw last i was on you were investigating the changes to voidstrike, what did you end up finding? is it worse now?

[lethal plover]

I guess that's why you don't run chainsword. too risky

[coarse oyster]

Surge is so boring , I switched to Trauma cuz the slot machine finally got me a good one

[manic needle]

I havent found the motivation to play at all tbh.

[idle bay]

I'm up for protest - like Daily post "Please stop nerfing psykers." And text "Tell marketing department that cash shop cosmetics will not sell for the class that just keep being nerfed."

[lethal plover]

[idle bay]

Here was Melk found in trash disposal unit for me

[lethal plover]

the psyker players are too good
we have to nerf 'em

[supple skiff]

that second one is a slam dunk lol

[safe crystal]

Could be crits staggering the crushers during their attacks, which would sort of explain the inconsistency. The rager thing could be hitreg being terrible

[supple skiff]

just have to speak their language

[manic needle]

Speedload is about on brand for Melk at least

[lethal plover]

only darktide has this data but I want to look at win rates of the classes, if it's out there

to see if psyker players are overperforming

[supple skiff]

I honestly think theres something to be said about our class drawing in masochists and making us better for it

[idle bay]

That wis waht we need to make accent on - money. They make game not for purpose to make a good game, but to earn money

[narrow jolt]

i can totally understand that, im on but dont want to do anything, especially since my main is psyker and i use VS staff lol. well i may have to just figure it out in a few mins. thanks anyway! may go check it out and let ya know

[safe crystal]

Man, wouldnt it be great to actually get this info from the psykhanium though

[idle bay]

I call that lasgun - ammo-waster anyway 🙂

[coarse oyster]

LOL

[manic needle]

Some other people I trust said Void is fine fwiw

[cloud heron]

Eh, i'm only sticking with psyker until they release the big tiddy eldar class

[lethal plover]

imagine adding content to the game

[coarse oyster]

We have a better chance of getting a playable genestealer tbh

[supple skiff]

3 arm gunslinger boi

[coarse oyster]

totally not suspicious

[supple skiff]

klero something or other

[manic needle]

Imagine having players make meaningful choices about itemization through crafting

[idle bay]

Oh my... another present from Melk on My psyker!
2.5 out of 3 Curio!

[manic needle]

Melk is doing above average for some of you guys lately

[cyan notch]

[idle bay]

For block build

[manic needle]

He still gives me the middle finger though so Im not worried

[lethal plover]

this is some Wizards of the Coast gaslighting bullshit

[manic needle]

Fatshark Moment

[lethal plover]

what game to play now

[idle bay]

I have an idea to make a stamina and not Kinetic Deflector based build for blocking

[modern spruce]

"Fixed issue where 'Kinetic Deflection' did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely." I'm pissed

[idle bay]

Since it's harmful feat now anyway

[cyan notch]

why is it harmful

[idle bay]

It's even worse. Now when you block with that feat on - your passive quell stops for 3 seconds

[coarse oyster]

fun detected, deploying countermeasures

[idle bay]

Bad design detected - withdrawing cash support for the in--game store

[lethal plover]

in practice you can no longer tank daemonhost
in other situations I have found that if you do the axe pushblocking routine anyway, you actually rarely rely on the feat so it's still there just when your attention slips
the main real threats are still the gunners. they will shoot you down before you have to worry about KD running out

[coarse oyster]

When folks started to run 100% Block Cost Reduction builds in VT2 they added the ability for elites to push you to disable your block for a couple of seconds

not that it helped you against specials tho LUL

[modern spruce]

I get it, it was wayyyy too easy to tank as a squishy glass cannon class. I just will miss it lol

[lethal plover]

KD is still there for the rezzing moments

[modern spruce]

Sitting there spamming push blocks because whatisstaminalol and being a ez tank was not the intention, which is fine. Now however, I'd like using the force sword to feel a little better

[lethal plover]

I still spam pushblocks lol

[modern spruce]

yeah why not like, you dont care about stamina.

[idle bay]

And i'm nit playing Psyker at all since the FIX... it's vet week for me anyway. Then there will be Ogryn week.

[lethal plover]

did they ever fix the force sword macro

[modern spruce]

This kinda feels like an issue of what we have vs what we don't, as in another psyker subclass that's more melee/defensive

[modern spruce]

Not sure what you mean but I doubt it lol

Force sword is ass without Deflector, and even with it I wasn't impressed (maybe because there was a much better option lol).

[lethal plover]

from someone else

[modern spruce]

And Deflector is a super rare blessing on a already rare weapon

[modern spruce]

WHAT IN THE KENTUCKY FRIED FUCK LOL

[lethal plover]

[coarse oyster]

First target bonus popping all over I guess

[manic needle]

Animation canceling with weapon switching

[coarse oyster]

ahh

[manic needle]

Streamline with a macro

[modern spruce]

Bruh my ring finger would fall off lol

[idle bay]

I've seen Shovel Ogrying doing some crazy macro that simply Deleted the hordes.

[manic needle]

Yeah animation canceling is a big thing in this game if you want to use it

Pretty sure all staffs still benefit from it as well

[long wharf]

ehh

[modern spruce]

well, the amount of fixes there are for pysker is huge compared to the one nerf

[manic needle]

Trauma possibly excluded but...

Well you know the drill

[long wharf]

animation cancelling staff charging isn't very useful when you need to charge and hold anyways

[idle bay]

So far not a single fun thing to do with Staffs "Special" attack?

[manic needle]

Yeah I dont even bother with it on Voidstrike

[lethal plover]

trauma spamming is meta now

[coarse oyster]

Maybe for Voidstrike to spam tactical nukes

[manic needle]

I thought there was some fun to be had with Purgatus LMB and animation cancelling though, yeah

[manic needle]

Lordie there is literally nothing useful about that thing

It's a meme

[modern spruce]

ooo the peril cost reduced that much?

[lethal plover]

the boom itself now costs only 5 peril

[idle bay]

Bat what if Fatshark fatsharked somewhere in their spagetthi code about "special" ?

[modern spruce]

Oh so small boom spam? eh lame

[manic needle]

The only thing special about that attack is the developer who designed it

[coarse oyster]

[cloud heron]

I've been playing with trauma for a few days now. It's definitely not meta but it is usable

[idle bay]

Ouch

[lethal plover]

don't diss the push AoE. That's bigger than damage AoE. it stops horde trains in their tracks

[modern spruce]

Useable is all I ask for tbh

[idle bay]

Another 380 in store. It's a good night for me 🙂

[lethal plover]

also trauma with rending shockwave debuffs crusher armor hard (as well as knocking them down)

[cloud heron]

Trauma casts are still just too expensive for what they do

[glossy escarp]

It reminds me of the V2 conflag stagger build I saw once for cata

[cyan notch]

same

[coarse oyster]

It cant stop mutants but can perma cc everything else and is way better at horde clearing, also way more interactive than surge

[glossy escarp]

You can stagger ogryns and ragers for cheap with trauma but that's the major selling point I've noticed myself

[modern spruce]

Wish they would add visual fx for rending against crushers, i've never seen it

[cloud heron]

CC yes, but not perma cc

[idle bay]

But i also have 380 in Melks 🙂 It's impossible to beat that!

[cloud heron]

Unless I'm missing something, you're only getting 4-5 solid casts before you're at 100 peril

[modern spruce]

Which is fine, every staff should do a different job

[lethal plover]

there's always an ult

in practice a horde runs out of steam usually before I run out of steam

[coarse oyster]

it can knock them on the ground which gives your team more than enough time to finish them off, or for you to went a bit while they are getting up, then you can knock them around again, but honestly if a 3-4 second ish knockdown is not enough for your team to kill them then perma zapping them wouldnt be much of a help either

[cloud heron]

Just curios, what difficulty do you play on? On damnation with quicken I'm always on the border of "fine" and "not fine" and never "good"

[lethal plover]

I only play on damn

[cloud heron]

maybe i'm missing something to it still

[lethal plover]

as long as your team mates can keep you safe for like a few seconds you're back to okay again

if you are completely surrounded you pull out the axe or do the feet spam sequence (uncharged -> bigger booms)

[coarse oyster]

with 70%ish quell speed you vent petty fast already

[lethal plover]

it takes a lot to actually overwhelm a prepared team with trauma

[coarse oyster]

and you dont have to quell all your peril when you need to spam

[cloud heron]

like i can usually only kill 2 ogryns before I'm spent. If 4 shotgunners show up after that I'm kind of just fucked

[cyan notch]

i find purg better at killing and controlling mixed hordes

[lethal plover]

lights out might be one condition where trauma is less helpful because it's hard to see

[cyan notch]

except for crushers but everything else gets melted

[lethal plover]

but with good visibility and a good choke point trauma makes hordes non-existent a lot of times

[cloud heron]

are hordes the main thing you're killing with it?

[coarse oyster]

it makes pretty much evertyhing no existent at chokepoints

[still hearth]

Purge > XII > Surge = Void = Trauma

[rose lily]

'been enjoying this Feet Tree with purg staff, the CC from purg and elites-popping with KB + combat ability cooldown reduction has been great

[lethal plover]

my main job is killing hordes. if others get caught in it, cool, but if I can manage hordes the rest of the team can pull their weight

oh I also take care of snipers, trappers, bombers, bulwarks, usual stuff as psyker with BB

[cyan notch]

feet tree

[cloud heron]

Alright, I've been thinking of it as more of a heavy killer primarily that can pivot into hordes

[cyan notch]

🦶

[manic needle]

🌲

[cyan notch]

it doesnt really kill heavies fast

[still hearth]

Trauma is just a worse purge at range

[lethal plover]

I do send crushers flying, and stun trappers / send dogs flying to stop pressure on the team. But then I remember my main job is to make sure horde does not surround us

[cyan notch]

yeah and i find purg much better for that

[long wharf]

big oof, not taking Ascendant Blaze with purge staff

[lethal plover]

actually purg is best when paired with trauma, because sometimes stuff leaks through the fire and trauma plugs those gaps

[manic needle]

Im mostly surprised about neither AB nor Communion

[still hearth]

Get another purge staff

[long wharf]

I mean, I guess if you truly don't care about warp charges, why bother, right?

[lethal plover]

that won't send crushers flying

[long wharf]

AB is the biggest reason to care about warp charges

[lethal plover]

trauma is a mix of horde clearing and CC. the spamming at feet for 360 push thing is something only it can do.

[cloud heron]

using trauma as horde clear seems wasteful

like it can do it, but I don't feel like that's what it's meant for as a primary role

[lethal plover]

that's an interesting perspective, because it can kill more stuff instantly in one go

[long wharf]

trauma's biggest flaw is the aiming

[lethal plover]

especially at choke point like stairs or ledges

[cloud heron]

but one go is less important than sustainability

[rose lily]

that's what i used to think but the passive warp charge gains from kinetic flayer mixed with BB's from Kinetic aura have been good
also the timing setup for a 6-charge AB isn't so fun to play with

[manic needle]

One of the reasons I like Voidstrike so much

[cyan notch]

trauma at stairs

[lethal plover]

it sustains very well. each trauma explosion thins the horde for a few seconds and you have a safe period where you can even quell

my practice came from the day trauma used to cost 50 peril for a full charge, so I honestly feel it's heaven in comparison

[cloud heron]

purge can go for pretty much ever and doesn't really require a trauma circle wide chokepoint

[rose lily]

well the passive warp charge gains from kinetic flayer + active warp charge gains from KB have been good
i really like the strong duality of CC with purg staff and elite-bursting with KB

[cloud heron]

and deals with flak ragers and below pretty easily

[long wharf]

do you whip out KB whenever you see an elite?

[still hearth]

Purge is busted but I can see the argument for trauma supporting it

[manic needle]

I think KB + Purgatus is a fine choice, not taking either of those feats still probably wouldnt be my cup of tea personally though

[still hearth]

Just that in that case I'd rather have an Ogryn just bully crushers

Ogryn and Zealot can just make every melee enemy a non threat

[lethal plover]

you could clear the game with any classes basically

[still hearth]

And Vets can gun down anything else

[lethal plover]

so that's not much of a point to bring up

[still hearth]

Trauma just isn't worth it in my eyes

If you enjoy it that's all good

[lethal plover]

people have said that for many things

[cyan notch]

with purg you can kill and control mixed hordes pretty well just by blasting even bulwarks get burned enough just with one shield opening such that mainly only crushers get through and your team can usually handle crushers solo since they dont have to worry about other garbage seeping through with them

[rose lily]

nah only when i see a bunch of them / at a clutch moment like 2 muties coming at me at the backline while there's a couple elites on our frontline

[cloud heron]

when i've been using trauma, I feel like the potential is knocking down elites

even if it can't actually accomplish that as well as I want it to, I feel like that's what it wants to be

[lethal plover]

and killing clumped-up hordes

a mix of horde and control

[long wharf]

and dispersing the rest

[fierce sinew]

nobody said you can't clear with trauma, they're saying it's generally worse than available alternatives in the roles it can fill, and they're right

[long wharf]

which is horrible for the team for crowd control

[lethal plover]

ah yes, we are back to "if you don't run surge on damn you're objectively sabotaging the team" arc again

[cyan notch]

trauma is fine if youre not the only horde guy

[still hearth]

Trauma is probably good but taking it over purge just doesn't seem like the ideal choice

[lethal plover]

when you get bored you will try out alternative loadouts and you will find that hey you do just fine

[fierce sinew]

nobody is being that hyperbolic either (other than you)

[lethal plover]

nobody? You missed a whole week of that

[still hearth]

I've never said trauma is bad atm.

Just that it's not as good as purge

[cyan notch]

as a solo horde thing guy other than teammate melees i find myself handling it worse than if i had a purg

[still hearth]

But this game

[lethal plover]

purge is just not as good as surge

[still hearth]

Doesn't require optimisation

[fierce sinew]

purge and surge fill different roles

[lethal plover]

you're very close to getting it

[still hearth]

Except that

Trauma doesn't

It fills the same role as purge

[fierce sinew]

I think you're being willfully obtuse

[lethal plover]

trauma is a mix of horde and CC
purge is mainly horde
surge is mainly CC

[still hearth]

But some extra CC to a few big enemies instead of absurd horde clear

[lethal plover]

not that hard to figure out

[still hearth]

Purge isn't even mainly horde

[fierce sinew]

purge is horde + cc, trauma is horde + cc but worse, surge is dedicated cc

[still hearth]

Purge also does CC and elites

[cloud heron]

even if purge has the knockback i dont think it's strong enough to really call CC

[still hearth]

There's two enemies in the game atm that purge doesn't CC that trauma does

[lethal plover]

ok have fun knocking down crushers or pushing 360 at feet with purge

[cloud heron]

but i don't think the trauma has the bandwidth to effectively do multiple things

[still hearth]

That's one enemy

Imagine trading insane horde clear for crusher control

And saying that's a worth

[fierce sinew]

everything that isn't a crusher or bulwark you can left click into irrelevance with purge

[lethal plover]

I mean, I have said my piece. I'm sure you get the idea, even if you don't agree with it. Nothing more to be said here.

[fierce sinew]

you have yet to say a single thing

[still hearth]

[fierce sinew]

literally hyperbole chatbot

[lethal plover]

then what idea are you replying to?

[cloud heron]

I think people are getting a bit more heated than this calls for

[fierce sinew]

a chatbot

[lethal plover]

well yeah, these people just can't accept to agree to disagree

[still hearth]

I'm just confused but I should be sleeping anyway

It's like the argument on Zealot that flamer is bad because you can't shoot snipers all over, to me.

[lethal plover]

literally the same loop with the people pushing for "just use surge" back then

[cyan notch]

purg can kill and control everything besides crushers

thats the main draw

[glass badge]

Creative naming, game. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651949906965168141/1068717395444776980/image.png

[ornate hamlet]

Hello siblings what are we mad about today

[restive solar]

Is Kinetic overload and Ascendant blaze a good combo?

[cloud heron]

with purge yeah

[still hearth]

Sometimes.

[restive solar]

Im trying to make a good build that wont cuck me

[still hearth]

Can't go wrong with AB on Purge

The rest is icing

[restive solar]

Whats purge

?

[still hearth]

Purgatus staff

[restive solar]

ah

[lethal plover]

the usual, what staff to use, and people who must argue for their choice

[cloud heron]

This is one that I use with purge

[restive solar]

i use surge cause im only lvl 20

[still hearth]

This but Psykinetic Aura and Kinetic Flayer is what I use

Also Wrath

[cloud heron]

well you cant use kinetic flayer and overload at the same time

[still hearth]

Ye

Kinetic Overload will help kill big stuff in hordes even faster

Since it goes over cap

[restive solar]

Whats the melee weapon?

[still hearth]

But it's kinda overkill

[cloud heron]

I think @long wharf was talking about an issue with overload having an issue with it targeting the elite you just killed to generate the warp charge. Not sure what conclusion he came to in the end

[lethal plover]

#psyker-class message
Oh hey I found the whole "just use surge" arc. how time has gone

[orchid shadow]

Ugh, so no more bullet blocking with Deflector while reviving.

[cloud heron]

i prefer force sword but it's not a requirement

[restive solar]

Is surge actually good?

[lethal plover]

it's the most mEtA

[cyan notch]

at what it does yea

[cloud heron]

surge shuts down a lot of high threat enemies

but it doesnt kill them

[cold zinc]

does your average weapon score in inventory affect what power level gear the shop sells?

[cloud heron]

Don't think so

[restive solar]

huh wack

so your either effective or a support twink

nice

[cold zinc]

K i've heard it thrown around but didn't know it it was true or not

[still hearth]

It's been half confirmed it does

[cyan notch]

to a small degree yea

[cloud heron]

well surge is still effective

just not in the killing way

[still hearth]

Some Dev says that your geaf matters bug not how

[ornate hamlet]

What stats do you fellers prioritize on your curios?

[lethal plover]

refine everything to toughness regen

360% regen

thanks to FS code

[cloud heron]

toughness regen is 100% going to get nerfed

[orchid shadow]

It's still decent against armored enemies.

[manic needle]

Im amazed it hasnt already been hotfixed

[cloud heron]

like it's still probably going to be S tier just by its nature, but it's not going to be this insanely good forever

[cyan notch]

next week maybe

but actually cuz it came out near the end of the week

[still hearth]

It'll make you regen 8 toughness per second instead of 5

[orchid shadow]

Wait, what? What happened to make Toughness Regen good besides it actually working now?

[still hearth]

They did an opsie

[restive solar]

Any advice for the cliff hanger penance?

[lethal plover]

devs can't into math and 3*20% = 360%

[orchid shadow]

Haha, but of course they did.

[cloud heron]

Health/Toughness matching the base curio blessing, sniper res, gunner res, ability CD (controversial), block efficiency, and toughness regen (will probably be nerfed soon) are the perks I like

[cloud heron]

vigil station espionage. At the finale where you're guarding the single interrogator, you can knock guys off of the bridge leading to the interrogator room

[restive solar]

ah

thank you

[ornate hamlet]

Is block efficiency a good stat to run if I’m rocking a FS with deflector?

[cyan notch]

yea

[lethal plover]

arguably more so

[cloud heron]

yeah block efficiency is to double down on kinetic deflection

[ornate hamlet]

Figured so, I’ll def run that on a curio

[cloud heron]

you dont need force sword specifically for it

[ornate hamlet]

Opinion on +1 wound?

[cloud heron]

use it if you're struggling but you should eventually wean yourself off

[lethal plover]

whatever you equip, have at least 3 in-game wounds (bars on your HP)

[cyan notch]

dont need it with health

[lethal plover]

whenever you run out of wounds and permadie, remember you're not good enough yet to not be a drag for the team without wounds

[still hearth]

That's some loser mentality.

I never did.

Die*

[lethal plover]

Just Don't Die ™️

[ornate hamlet]

Initially I liked having at least 3 wounds but I’ve started to get away from that

[still hearth]

Exactly

[restive solar]

If only i could do damnation at lvl 20

smh

[still hearth]

2 Wounds is fine, though I do like having 3 on Psyker and Vet

Unlike Zealot they have no safety net

[cyan notch]

i probably get full killed like once every 50 games

health seems better for me

[lethal plover]

I see people having to be rescued all the time on damn

[still hearth]

It's a disease

Skillissues Noobgamericus

[restive solar]

Oh?

I just got molested by like 4 ogryn while waiting for the shop to refresh

what a day

[orchid shadow]

Go on...

[cloud heron]

No

please

[orchid shadow]

Yep. 😦

[cyan notch]

yea aqshy confirmed it

and this also confirmed it

[lethal plover]

goodbye to half the reason to have FS

guaranteed rezzing

[still hearth]

Just make forum posts about it

[cloud heron]

This has actually upset me

i am upset now

[vagrant cedar]

what's the reason now to have it?

[cloud heron]

well deflector still blocks bullets

[vagrant cedar]

other than stop shooters for a few seconds

[cloud heron]

I catch shotguns with it plenty

[vagrant cedar]

oh shotgunners

hmm

[cloud heron]

but mid-horde revive was just so good

[cyan notch]

u still can just not vs shooters

aqshy said theyre looking at stuff with ranged maybe theyll make it easier to res Next Week™️

takes a lot of resources and time to kill shooters to res someone if theyre in a shit spot

sometimes almost impossible

[vagrant cedar]

remote revive by psyker

10s spell

boom

Hunt: Showdown style

[fierce sinew]

something like that would be a cool blitz for the support subclass

like brainburst but you spend your 45 peril to give someone some amount of toughness, or pick them up if down

[brittle crest]

finally got a fking deflector sword

[cloud heron]

Nice

[brittle crest]

are there any possible upgrades that brick it?

[ornate hamlet]

Much better than my stats

[cyan notch]

kruber had a res shout in vt2

[brittle crest]

or am i safe to consecrate the damn thing

[cloud heron]

No

[cyan notch]

maybe replace quicken with that lmao

[brittle crest]

bless

[fierce sinew]

forget my idea I like this more

[cloud heron]

You'll take quicken out of my cold dead hands

[cyan notch]

put quicken into psyker passive

[wet jacinth]

[cyan notch]

though idk if itll be too op

[lethal plover]

too bad you didn't get to enjoy it when it actually worked

[cyan notch]

you can stand in front of the enemies blocking while your teammates res if theyre smart enough to realise what youre doing

[supple skiff]

There’s not giving us anything to offset the loss of deflector rez lol

[wet jacinth]

[cyan notch]

more impactful vfx next patch

[narrow jolt]

im back! had to afk a bit, @manic needle im about to go do some runs after a few drinks lol, ill let you know how VS works compared to two weeks ago lol

[lethal plover]

More cosmetics
Don't you all have credit cards

[wet jacinth]

[narrow jolt]

https://discord.gg/wx2kW6mS speed running grim missions, 1-3 need 2m

[fresh reef]

We ain't even getting the cosmetics now lol

[lethal plover]

A real shame

[fresh reef]

I can't wait for the game to be done in two years so I can pull out the card again

[wet jacinth]

[half iron]

no more psyker crewmate collars until game is “fixed”. it’s all of your guys’ faults. (edited)

[manic needle]

We did it, leddit

[cloud heron]

Do you guys ever see a name you recognize and think "oh hey it's this guy again"

only to realize it's a random name

from the pool

[safe pendant]

Harken

[cloud heron]

That's the one

[frigid burrow]

Nice I just spent 20 mins rerolling perkfor 20% block efficiency and I was doing it on the wrong sword this whole time

Thank you hadron

[half iron]

i love my darktide team. me, harken, harken (same face as harken), and harken

[safe pendant]

and the 5th rare teammate Dickot

[half iron]

weird way to spell harken

[safe pendant]

Think I need to restart my computer. Game be lagging tonight

[cloud heron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10mytru/guide_automate_perk_rerolls_with_gocrclicker/ this looks neat

[shadow wigeon]

Anyone use Quicken with Surge staff (Heresey+)?

[floral solstice]

is anyone even using quicken

im genuinely curious

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah

Im too scared to try haha

[cloud heron]

i prefer quicken to kinetic barrage and will fight anyone that challenges me

except maybe on the voidstrike

[floral solstice]

oh boy, another preference debate count me in /s

[shadow wigeon]

I use KB but so rarely for bbing- so I wondered how quicken might fare

[shadow wigeon]

I just want to hear from ppl who are using quicken

[cloud heron]

actually yeah definitely except on voidstrike

[shadow wigeon]

Aight imma try it

[cloud heron]

psyker ult just has so much utility attached to it

trapper runs up on your teammate? ult

group of shotgunners in front of you? ult

teammate gets dogged? ult

flamer setting up? you guessed it, ult

plus the peril management and toughness from quietitude

[olive ember]

idk how

but they managed to make me not want to touch the game more than ever

with the only update they released since like 12/21

[true shadow]

Harken.

[olive ember]

its amazing really

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah and I find myself BBing so rarely. Using quicken now.

[cloud heron]

BB is also good, I just don't feel like KB is actually necessary for it to do what it needs to

[gentle siren]

Starting my final class as pysker, any elite leveling tips?

[north cradle]

Don't Brain Burst anything your allies are already shooting at
Push Hounds, dodge Mutants
When in doubt, bring a Purgatus Staff

[gentle siren]

Trauma viable yet?

[north cradle]

Reasonably. But I wouldn't use Trauma until Heresy+ when you need to tip Ogryns over for your buddies

[cyan notch]

YES

oops caps

[gentle siren]

Trauma knocks over ogryn? nice

[north cradle]

Oh yeah, it's got boatloads of Stagger

And Crushers are oddly easy to knock over

Give 'em a push-follow with Force Sword and he's knocked on his ass

Then you can whack his head with the charged Force Sword and deal, like, 15% of his health

Psyker does not have a particularly good way to damage Ogryns other than Brain Burst that I've seen, just a bunch of ways to push them around

[regal musk]

You can gut punch Crushers with charged Voidstrikes for 400+.
Not like we doiint have ways to hurt them outside BB lol
Most crushers i kill are done with FS specials while dancing around them >_>
Takes the same amount of specials from my FS as BBs to kill it anyway ... and less peril XD

[wet jacinth]

me: That Crusher is engulfed in funny blue flames

[gentle siren]

Are the soul blaze talents still useless?

[vagrant cedar]

what does that even mean

yes, if you use a gun, they are useless

[gentle siren]

It means exactly what it says

For a while it was reccomended to not take any of the soul blaze talents

[cyan notch]

only wrack and ruin is bad

[vagrant cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOOtPpZynM

[cyan notch]

ascendant blaze is great

kinetic overload has some use

[vagrant cedar]

here you go, i made a full tutorial on how to play Psyker like a boss at damnation

Purge + Combat axe

watch it, you'll be a pro

you'll 100% find something that will improve your game play

[wet jacinth]

technically the BB elites one

3m AoE

[vagrant cedar]

2 stack one

yeah

[gentle siren]

Okay thanks I'll check it out

[wet jacinth]

that one is so bad

[vagrant cedar]

i used to think it's good

2 stacks

but then i realized how stacks work

and it's useless

[wet jacinth]

[shadow wigeon]

Retaining charges is decent too, but probably 75% of the time I KB. I don’t BB afterwards. So I was not getting much value out of it.

[safe pendant]

I guess it didn't stack up

[vagrant cedar]

there's nothing to stack

the idea is to BB it first

to you get them 2 stacks but

it's not a game changing perk

[safe pendant]

It's a pun

[vagrant cedar]

oh

👀

[narrow jolt]

@manic needle im getting ready to do some pysker, i challenge you to do it with me, lets go lol, if your still on lol

[manic needle]

Sorry mate gonna wait until the game's in a better state ❤️

[floral solstice]

ohhhhhh a challenge, just like in high school

[narrow jolt]

well darn, ok then!

[manic needle]

Have fun though

[narrow jolt]

i know i dont say much in this chat but i read it all day long lol

work and all

[gentle siren]

lol

Is okay game is in a great state just bad UX atm

[narrow jolt]

well ima afk for a min then try to form some kind of group to do something

[vagrant cedar]

what does UX mean

[narrow jolt]

just went after lev bc i see them all the time in chat, and figured id learn something lol

[gentle siren]

User Experience, so its stuff like progression and character choices

[wet jacinth]

dodge sliding just feels like a dodge but dummy effective

idk how I feel about this

[vagrant cedar]

ahh i see, never heard such term before

[cyan notch]

UI/UX pretty commong

common

[gentle siren]

Yeah UI and UX are the two main components of the 'meta' side of the game

UI is HUD and usability, UX is players experience within the game

And then gameplay is like... combat and stuff

[narrow jolt]

anyone else for trying a psyker only challenge on at least t4? maybe higher?

[gentle siren]

My psyker is not high enough level to preform well at T4 sorry

[narrow jolt]

pfffff

just gotta get in there and wade into the tides of battle

[vagrant cedar]

you need 4 psykers?

[gentle siren]

What do you mean?

[narrow jolt]

i dont need anything lol, ive dont everything a psyker can do atm, i just want to see what a t4 or t5 all psyker run would look like

trying to branch out, and do fun stuff

[vagrant cedar]

depends on the loadouts lol

can be very strong

or very weak

[narrow jolt]

nah nah nah, dont matter, just go for fun

[gentle siren]

Could do 1 of each staff lol

[wet jacinth]

anything that just feels very effective like XII disgusts me

[gentle siren]

So you want things to be ineffective?

[wet jacinth]

nah I just don't like using the better weapons per say

[gentle siren]

Also dodging doesn't actually give i frames unless you're on zealot

[wet jacinth]

I know

[narrow jolt]

i mean we could all go daggers, with guns, would matter to me lol

[idle bay]

Wanted to update my negative review to be more colourful, but since few people already found it helpful and it's covers all the bases i left it as is

[gentle siren]

Dodging does give pysker 0.5 toughness modifier which is nice but still, by NO MEANS is it broken

I updated my positive review today to give more clarity on the review bombing lol

[wet jacinth]

Imean I didn't say "Broken"

[vagrant cedar]

iirc you can run faster with dodge slide

[wet jacinth]

yeah

[vagrant cedar]

cause when you dodge slide you regain stamina

a little bit

enough to keep it up

[wet jacinth]

even then I was backwards dodging and keeping up with the sprinting zealot almsot

dodge sliding

[gentle siren]

Its a useful movement tool, you'll be at 0 stamina till you stop though so its fine

[wet jacinth]

that's if you use your stamina before

[gentle siren]

True

[narrow jolt]

@gentle siren do you want your psyker leveled up? then lets go do some missions lol

[gentle siren]

Sure

[narrow jolt]

i say this bc im bored and my kids are with their mom for the weekend lol

and have nothing else to do haha

[wet jacinth]

you have kids

[narrow jolt]

other than drink beer and play this game

uh yeah, 2 of them, wouldnt trade them for anything, but they are with their mom this weekend

[gentle siren]

I sent a steam

[narrow jolt]

ok @gentle siren add me and lets get to work

ah i see it

wait i got a few

[wet jacinth]

people still leave steam IDs in their discord names

[narrow jolt]

which one are you?

[gentle siren]

The aesthetic cat pic

[narrow jolt]

gotchya

[gentle siren]

yeah in this disc seems simpler

[narrow jolt]

you want to power level it?

[wet jacinth]

I've just gotten used to the Steam link in discord profile / copying the link of the join game button. but this is for LFGs primarily

[narrow jolt]

like speed run stuff?

[gentle siren]

Sure if you want

I'm just bing chilling

[narrow jolt]

ok well i need some things too, so join strije team 5, just need miussions completions on my preacher, fast as possibler

[regal musk]

I swear the game has just decided that things just dont work correctly on left side lol

[wet jacinth]

what was the leaked 2nd psyker class? if anyone knows

I know Ogryn had the gun lugger and vet squad leader but I didn't look into the zealots/psykers

[floral solstice]

think zealot was crusader or something?

[regal musk]

Psyker was Protectorate apparently.

[wet jacinth]

Protectorate

hmm

was curious if it dabbled in biomancy

[regal musk]

Supposedly makes force fields and has a Chain Lightning

Assuming the force field is the ult and the Lightning is the swap for BB?

The Psyker in the trailer uses a lightning ability. Doesn't look lik ethe Surge version either.

[wet jacinth]

supposedly in the files another grenade slot was like

Psyker_throwing_knives

but I assume it's too early to really tell

[regal musk]

that would ... suck imo

[wet jacinth]

depends

I'm curious if it has correlation with chain lightning

like it chaining between the throwing knives

[regal musk]

It would make sense for an alternative BB to be an AoE version

And kind of fits with what the trailer Psyker was doing

[shadow wigeon]

Alright Quicken was an improvement. I was mistaken to avoid it

[wet jacinth]

me who uses Ascending blaze

[cyan notch]

Ascendant

[wet jacinth]

<->

funny blue fire lvl 30 feat

[wanton cove]

I’m about to play my first psyker round before bed after the patch. Haven’t been able to do a single with work. I guess I’ll need to actually look at patch notes now 😂

[manic needle]

Ascending Blaze would be a much cooler feat. I'm picturing the Psyker flying into the air with soulflames shooting out of their ass.

[wet jacinth]

[wanton cove]

Im so down. Thats like the true defintion of a twink.

[narrow jolt]

anyone else want to level their psyker or any other class, join my hannel

https://discord.gg/Ke2WCg4p

[idle bay]

Morning dose of SALT unloaded in r/Darktide, post with plead to stop nerfing psykers, that will get downovted by trolls 🙂 Now i can have my breakfast

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10n8c9j/can_you_please_stop_nerfing_psykers_you_know_cash/
In case you are in support of "Stop Nerfing Psykers"... or want to flush it down - both works 🙂

[wanton cove]

Sibling I can't do much for you other then upvote ❤️

[regal musk]

This thing is funny. Ends up doing more damage stabbing a Scab Mauler in the head than on the flak. Not sure its worth using over a FS though

[wet jacinth]

rending

and well

the name fits well lol

Uncanny strike

[regal musk]

I know its the blessing, im justr amused by how effective that stacks to

[wet jacinth]

ik

I've been sleeping early lately

I hate I'm already yawning and it

isn't even 11pm yet

[light quail]

it absolutely is
love my duelling swords

the poke on it is pretty good too
mine can interrupt ragers and its just overall such a class weapon

[cyan notch]

some surge 1 tricks are pretty fuckin stupid ngl

played a damnation assasination mission and im using purg while another zealot is flaming the adds and this surge mf just spams surge at the adds not going to melee the boss at all

constantly surging

[near wyvern]

😂

[cyan notch]

bro you are doing 0 damage to boss 0 damage to adds 0 damage to anything

[near wyvern]

Maybe they had a brain surge?

Surge is good but I don't like the fact that you are reliant on your team mates for damage. The buffed Trauma is the new surge for me, it's a lot better at hi intense missions as well because there is no target cap. The only thing with trauma is that you need to be careful with the timing due to mob stagger ICD

And bulwakrs are buggy as hell, sometimes it hits the shield from behind for no reason

[cyan notch]

yea bulwark hitbox is one of the worst

[regal musk]

Naw it probably just ripped an Ogryn sized fart and cancelled out your Trauma.

[near wyvern]

Quite a tail wind

[idle bay]

I like that they acknowledged this as a bug - for now
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/bulwark-shield-interacting-weirdly-with-trauma-staff-after-patch/73995

But then , probably in Monday - "not-a-bug" tag - working as intended 🙂

[idle bay]

Do you need a video recorded for your bug report?

[near wyvern]

No if it's very simple to reproduce

I have had things acknowledged with no screenshots no videos

It's when weird shit happens which is hard to explain when you need a video

Speaking of which I need to check some of my clips, I believe I got snipered during dodge frames

But have to check if that really was the case or not

[idle bay]

I have few cases of being hit by sniper but not taken even toughness damage. I don't know what exactly it was, it's more like i was dodging into the shot (not seeing the sniper laser dot sight) get hit and not get damaged, or shot was eaten by level geometry ...

[cyan notch]

this isnt my experience

bulwarks seemed to be fixed at least from the explosion vs shield/unshielded part

[near wyvern]

Oh they are not

They are still bugged af against bulwarks

[cyan notch]

works fine for me

[near wyvern]

Emperor loves you more then

[cyan notch]

ok i found the discrepancy

if bulwark is facing you and you trauma it anywhere it will open up the shield but take 0 damage from the blast

if bulwark is facing away and you trauma it anywhere it takes damage and gets knocked down without first opening its shield

[idle bay]

Bulwarks and Pox Hounds are made from warp-spaghetti for sure.

[cyan notch]

so i guess in that regard it doesnt matter where you place the circle as long as its on the bulwark

[near wyvern]

But the thing is it doesn't always open up the shield

[regal musk]

Probably related to how Bursters and Dogs sometimes ignore when they should be kncoekd back

[cyan notch]

90% charge and above always opens up for me

[near wyvern]

Try to do it just as their stumbling animation ends. The stagger immunity is longer than their get up / stumbling animation.

So it's terribly inconsistent trying to stun lock them.

[near wyvern]

That's weird. So they calculate the initial hit as a vector from the player model to the target and if a hit is confirmed, only then the knock back / launch direction is determined as a vector from the epicenter to the mob.

Where as they should calculate the hit from the same vector as the knock back.

[cyan notch]

yea you can target the front of a bulwark while its back is facing you and he will take damage and stumble towards you even though his shield is facing the direction of the blast

[spring hamlet]

finally I can play psyker with the ranged wep the devs intended

[restive solar]

any good?

[cold mesa]

no pinning fire, not good

[cold mesa]

don't buy melk weapons before 30

[fierce sinew]

the 2 stats that matter most being the lowest rolls isn't how I normally use the word "good"

[cold mesa]

wait

that's crafted

don't waste crafting mats on pre-30 weapons

[restive solar]

oh

okay

[slow karma]

AYO

[restive solar]

so burn and cloud radius is more important than anything else

right?

[fierce sinew]

yes

burn>cloud>>>warp res>quell>>>>>>>>damage

[restive solar]

I see

[cyan notch]

cloud>burn>quell>damage>warp

[still hearth]

Someone needs to test how much damage actually does

[regal musk]

Be funny if Damage ended up affecting the speed of stack application and everyones current Purgatus with min damage were bricked 😛

[still hearth]

People have tested that

But there might be stagger breakpoints and damage does affect horde clear and dps a bit

Not as much as burn, but noy in significantly. So it depends on the difference between 0-80%

[regal musk]

Wasnt being wholly serious lol. I just figure it'll be fun to laugh at the moaning if someone discovered damage was actually mathematically the better option.
I personally prefer damage to be high and value warp res and quel speed lower.
I consider myself a fairly average player, but i am pretty good at managing my peril, So never felt the need to go for excessive peril stats on staves

[slow karma]

Depends on the staff

Managing peril isn't hard but the surge staff in particular is very peril intensive

so having it not tick up so fast increases general effective uptime

[regal musk]

As i said, Personally.
Im sure the math says I'm "better off", I just prefer what i prefer 😛
I play better with stuff i like, even if if its not the meta.

[slow karma]

That's fair. I'm just sayin'

[regal musk]

And personally .. I hate the Surge staff so i never use it XD

[slow karma]

Like in my case, surge staves need resistance cuz holy SHIT

[regal musk]

It fdeels so incredibly janky to use

[slow karma]

the rest I can manage

it's just a nice to have

It's weird, I'll give you that

but you can basically stop just about anything from being a threat to the team with them

It's really hard CC

Stops specials in their tracks

[regal musk]

I find death is th eharder CC 😛

[slow karma]

hahah, not wrong!