psyker-class

[wet jacinth]

[still hearth]

And your weapon isn't active while you ress

[clear heath]

oh they fixed the screen flickering on psyker? nice

[cold zinc]

are you running the 10% chance to bb on hit? Maybe it's double popping and bugging out?

[lethal folio]

Nay.

[near wyvern]

You camp behind your team mates and do dull charges on enemies far away or below your team mates feets.

[summer prairie]

Can you get the double peril cost to proc in the grinder or only during a mission?

[lethal folio]

Can't replicated in meatgrinder.

but it happens all the time in missions.

[lethal folio]

Very frustrating.

[near wyvern]

Psykers using BB

[strong fog]

I'm sorry but in vermintide 2, if you had Parry trait on your weapon and you revived someone, it did work, so wtf

[still hearth]

If you look closely you seem to lose the peril that would kill you before you use the F at the end of the clip. I've definitely noticed it does some weird stuff with BB peril gain sometimes.

[near wyvern]

Reviving seems to have extra stamina now or then it uses the stamina bar of your ranged weapon

[still hearth]

It always did that.

[strong fog]

it was already the case

[near wyvern]

Ok just didn't pay attention earlier since I always ran KD

[still hearth]

I think it uses some base + bonus modifier

[near wyvern]

Very likely

[wet jacinth]

[clear heath]

oh wtf, it was about to kill you off 95%
I've seen the number jump around occasionally too but i've never been unfortunate enough for it to actually do anything. I just assumed it was a visual thing

[still hearth]

It does look like to me that the warp explosion realizes "oh I'm not supposed to blow up" just before Comissar shouts

But its still funny that it happens at all

[clear heath]

I feel like it maybe happens more when it's laggy but idk if i'm just imagining it. Do you usually have lag issues?

[strong fog]

I've noticed that now, you can still block on peril above 80%. I parried a hit and my peril went from 94 to 98

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/pOHtZVg5Mhhw

[summer prairie]

Peril block threshold was changed to 97%

[supple skiff]

free reroll, no plasteel, cant reroll lol

[summer prairie]

though it was 90% before, not 80%

[supple skiff]

games really going to make me grab a single plasteel just to reroll something thats free

[near wyvern]

You tested it?

[clear heath]

sorry you're too poor

[summer prairie]

I saw the code and although I didn't specifically test it, seemed to match what I saw

[near wyvern]

97 is the 'critical peril' for many things and the UI even enlarges the number on screen at that point so would make sense

[near wyvern]

Yes it was 90 before, that is for sure

[jovial panther]

There's an ICD for the 10% chance to BB on hit right?

[near wyvern]

Yes 15 sec

[strong fog]

I did, I could block a hit from 94 peril to 98, the next hit went on stamina without guard breaking me

[near wyvern]

Thx, will add to Atheneum with attribution

[jovial panther]

thank you

[bright raft]

is combat or tac axe better

[still hearth]

Yes.

[bright raft]

Perf

[still hearth]

[bright raft]

they both viable?

[still hearth]

Yeah, though Psyker does extra well with combat axe due to push attacks.

Tac Axe is more mobile

[bright raft]

Thought so was wondering if there were any other big differences I appreciate ya

[still hearth]

I'd say for general play Combat Axe is probably better for Psyker play

[ornate hamlet]

MK II just as mobile imo

[fresh sky]

Chainsword!

[bright raft]

It get buffed?

[fresh sky]

Goes brrrrr

[clear heath]

Tac Axe is really nice on zealot imo if you want to go crit zealot
Probably still good on other classes tho

[bright raft]

Is there an easy pick blessings set up for combat?

[crude talon]

Axes are just good. Period

[still hearth]

As long as you don't get Limbsplitter & Decimator it should be nice.

[clear heath]

I think pretty much any axe would want brutal momentum

[crude talon]

Mk2, 5, and 7

And you want BM yes

[fresh sky]

Honestly crit build on zealot is like playing iron breaker. It teaches you not to avoid damage which is bad for almost anything else

[still hearth]

Its not as ideal on Psyker since you want to shove attack spam most of the time anyway imo.

[clear heath]

fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

you don't need to do this at all
combine purg staff with axe, use axe in between your aoe CC's from purg

[still hearth]

We're not discussing ranged set-ups though.

[ornate hamlet]

your choice of melee highly depends on what ranged you choose to use in tandem with it tho

[still hearth]

Just always run Knife

And you're fine

[ornate hamlet]

just like feats do, depends on what ranged you're usin

[still hearth]

If you want single target melee I'd rather run Knife.

If you want horde clear I'd rather run Chainsword.

[bright raft]

I run knife 😄

I like speedy boy

movement

[still hearth]

Knife has about the same DPS as combat axe (without blessings)

But Combat Axe has some nasty blessings

[bright raft]

Idek what blessings to roll on knife

I just push spam and 3 shot mutants

[still hearth]

Though I just get no good Knife blessings

The best blessings are probably:
Executor
Uncanny Strike
Mercy Killer
Lacerate

For Psyker

In roughly that order imo.

Any of the other blessings are bad

[summer prairie]

do you even get executor procs when you push attack

[clear heath]

the bleed blessings don't work through bulwark shields anymore right?

heard it was patched

[still hearth]

Good question, I don't have executor on any knives

[summer prairie]

bleed only procs now if you do damage

with the blessing anyway

[still hearth]

Yeah, it's why it's at the bottol

[summer prairie]

it's still good boss dps

[still hearth]

It's like 177 dps on Unyielding max stacks which is decent for sure

[wet jacinth]

Shotgunsyker

[still hearth]

They saved you by removing shotguns

[wet jacinth]

Lowkey. I just wish the staffs had more unique left clicks

Over purgatus being the only with with a unique left click

[still hearth]

I wish unique weapons were actually made to feel great.

[wet jacinth]

How often do people see Shovel vets

[still hearth]

Shovel is basically combat axe

[wet jacinth]

Budget axe

Even then TECHNICALLY. ogryn gets a shovel too

Not the same but still

Is a shovel

I just hope 2 handed melee isnt all/mostly gonna go to Zealot

[clear heath]

I have a friend who uses shovel vet for fun

it seems horrible

[wet jacinth]

Shovel vet is alright.

Not bad nor great

[still hearth]

Shovel Ogryn though

That's where its at

Is it worse than the best weapons?

Absolutely

But its fun

[north cradle]

I feel the same way about Force Sword and Stubber

[wet jacinth]

I feel the same way about XII and Power sword

[still hearth]

Hol' on

[crude talon]

MK5 dueling sword

Is

The

Most fun

Psyker weapon

[wet jacinth]

It's nice but not for me

[crude talon]

I literally DANCE like a fucking ballerina around everything and murder it all.

[wet jacinth]

I would prefer normal dodges of the other 2 dueling swords

[gilded cloud]

What is classified as an infested enemy

[crude talon]

And that 200+ heavy down strike attack for a heavy

[still hearth]

Poxwalkers and pox hounds (also supposedly pox bursters iirc)

[crude talon]

It’s just, sexy

[still hearth]

So the bigger horde enemies, dogs and suicide bombers.

[wet jacinth]

You forgot "Vanessa"

Infested

[neat summit]

My favorite currently is to duel a plague ogryn with the mk5 sabre .

“I got him, boys, watch me whip. Watch me naynay”

[gilded cloud]

Thanks!

So is this one good?

[wet jacinth]

Imean kast talks specifically MkV dueling sword

[wet jacinth]

Yeah but you gotta rng the perks/blessings if you upgrade it

[crude talon]

I like fighting 4-5 ragers at once. Dodging 90 feet one way and watching 2 of them miss and 3 of them following. Smack them in the fucking head for a BB proc, dodging BACK to the other 2 that are animation locked and hitting them while I dodge around them. Then dodge backwards away when they swing again. UGH it’s so good

[wet jacinth]

Unless you want a higher finesse stay

[gilded cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-mateo-superstore-sign-of-the-cross-prier-gif-9684878

[crude talon]

I’d rather have less warp res personally but all I use that thing for is it’s charge attack really lol

[neat summit]

It’s fun for sure. The mk5 axe is my other favorite for sure. Chopping heads like wu tang.

[crude talon]

I like the tac axes

On my zealot

[neat summit]

Why we can’t dual wield with the staff is beyond me.

[crude talon]

What you mean? Like instead of a melee have another staff?

Or a staff in each hand? Lol

[leaden orchid]

what is the best among duelling swords? and are the power sword and duelling sword the 2 best melee choices for psyker?

[silk flax]

You probably mean Force Sword instead of Power Sword. I would say those 2 are what people mostly use. As for the dueling sword It's personal preference but I like Mk5. It has a huge dodge and I like the heavy over head swings it has. I've also seen combat daggers on some psykers, but I feel like for the combat dagger to work it needs the right blessings/perks.

[still hearth]

Objective tier list of Psyker melees
S-tier: The ones I like
F-tier: The ones I don't like

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

[frank talon]

[still hearth]

If you want a proper overview of what is good or bad then this is my experience:

Combat Axe: Overall good, has some cleave problems. Each mk is different though.
Tac Axe: Similar to combat axe, actually does better cleave but less damage to crushers
Knife: Very bad cleave, same/better DPS to single target than Combat Axe, big fast
Dueling Sword: ??? Not sure. Seems roughly on par with Knife but less single target damage. Has better cleave on lights(?)
Chainsword: Good cleave. Rev. Not the best single target. All-round good.
Force Sword: Can just kinda stagger a big chunk of a horde, does decent cleave, special is good vs single target, can knock crushers on their butt. Shitty mobility despite infinite dodges (except going backwards)

Oh yeah and claw

Claw exists.

[frank talon]

I wish the bonk special attack was actually usable beyond pushing a poxwalker off of you

[still hearth]

Claw is actually very good anti-elite/specials aside from crusher.

Does okay cleave but not exceptional.

[crude talon]

Imo special attack on staffs should be a nova around you

[rocky cedar]

Claw underrated

[crude talon]

To help with survivability

[surreal folio]

hate the claw

[crude talon]

There’s a claw that’s two horizontal sweeps and it’s good

[north cradle]

Mk I

[still hearth]

Wrong, but its okay the game fools you

[north cradle]

I prefer using the Claw Sword to the Power Sword on Veteran myself

[still hearth]

Tbf all melees are fine

[crude talon]

Either that or I was doing push shove attack then heavy

[still hearth]

And Psyker doesn't get a dumb weapon like Psword or Hsword

[crude talon]

Same principle tho

[rocky cedar]

MK IV is the claw I like

Light heavy alternating combo is great vs hordes

[surreal folio]

i just hate how slow they are

[rocky cedar]

Overhead heavy 1 is good single target

[still hearth]

Claw? Slow?

Its one of the fastest melees in the game

[surreal folio]

compared to what lol

[still hearth]

All the other melees?

Aside from Tac Axe, Knife and Duelling Sword

Its about the same as the other swords

Combat Axe is slightly slower

[surreal folio]

the knife axe and sword are pretty much the only other choices for psych lol

i dont mind a slow weapon but if shes gonna be slow better do some damage

im rocking an antax so i cant even talk..

[still hearth]

Anyway back to Claw

[surreal folio]

hahahahaaaaaaaa

[still hearth]

It has shitty cleave values

[surreal folio]

finally got something worthy

is this upto par with what everybody else is rocking?

[north cradle]

Not with those blessings

[surreal folio]

blessings are fkn trashhhhhh

[rocky cedar]

Stats are pog though

[shrewd grove]

good stats though just hold onto it

[surreal folio]

whats pog mean? im new here

[north cradle]

Not perfect, since Damage should be the dump stat, but beggars can't be choosers

[rocky cedar]

Do blessings even matter that much on any staff?

[north cradle]

Twitch emote

[rocky cedar]

It just means good, in an enthusiastic manner

[surreal folio]

lmao

waiting for crafting system

hopefully i can land something better on the blessings in the meantime. I feel like decent staffs are real hard to come by

[still hearth]

Except when its used ironically.

[surreal folio]

^ lol

[north cradle]

Because language is unfortunately super malleable

When the word 'literally' has a listed definition for when something is used hyperbolically, it's a bad omen

[lament topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/going-insane-gif-26293293

POV: Psyker

[north cradle]

Wrong

[lament topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-am-losing-my-cat-cat-stare-gif-25246991

[north cradle]

POV: Zealot looking at Psyker

[surreal folio]

anybody have a good trauma force build?

[long wharf]

no, because that'd require the trauma staff to be good

[surreal folio]

seems like the most neglected staff by devs

i like the idea of the playstyle though

[still hearth]

The trauma staff is amazing in ideal situations

[surreal folio]

i run a rumbler w ogryn

[still hearth]

Just that playing around those ideal situations isn't feasible in pubs

[crude talon]

I have terrifying barrage on mine too. Not ideal but

[still hearth]

And Purge does trauma staff job basically as well and in more scenarios.

[surreal folio]

almost feel like terrf barrage dosent do shit

[north cradle]

It's arguable that Trauma is better than Voidstrike for crowd control

[still hearth]

It's true* fify

Actually Voidstrike is pretty decent against lined up hordes.

But once again

[surreal folio]

hate voidstrike lol

[north cradle]

And Trauma is decent against round clusters

[still hearth]

Purge does that better

I think the issue is that Purge is too good against too many enemies

It should do significantly less damage to armored enemies and maniacs

And Trauma/Void should do much more

[supple skiff]

Void is the only decent option against ranged trash mobs more than 10 feet away

Plus the ability to hit them when they’re behind cover is nice

[still hearth]

BB / LMB

[surreal folio]

too much downtme w void for crowd cont result

[still hearth]

Voidstrike only wins out on shooters if they line up basically.

[surreal folio]

only deletes a few heads at at time

[rocky cedar]

This is what I run with it and I'm a big trauma stan

https://darkmass.gg/builds/s_ncsMi9vxi5J9VV-5n3jDMpFj03SVa7r4_p-3aJD0c/Trauma Build

Except swap warp flurry for rending shockwave on trauma

[still hearth]

No Psykinetic Aura

Trash build

0/10

[supple skiff]

Bolt is big enough to hit 2 columns wide if you aim decently. And if your using And using BB for individual trash ranged is less than ideal

[surreal folio]

never considered psyk aura

you like it?

[supple skiff]

Can easily take out packs of 3 behind cover, if anything f voids horde control is overstated due to it not penetrating some elite enemies and such

[surreal folio]

wish i had those blessings

[rocky cedar]

I think they're trolling

[rocky cedar]

Blessings aren't that important on trauma

[still hearth]

I usually run Psych Aura

But feats are overrated

So I meme on all builds

[rocky cedar]

Rending shockwave is nice because it applies brittleness to enemies so acts as a group debuff

Warp flurry might be good now it's fixed on trauma

Focused channeling is nice I guess but pretty easy to avoid being interrupted in most cases with trauma

[north cradle]

Does Psykinetic Aura work when allies take the kill

[clear heath]

no

[supple skiff]

Not for your ult

[summer prairie]

No, but gives everyone CDR when you kill

[supple skiff]

Might for theirs, not sure

[long wharf]

warp flurry is very good on trauma

[supple skiff]

Wait everyone gets the cdr?

[summer prairie]

Yes

[leaden orchid]

claw?

[still hearth]

Claw.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah warp flurry should be very good for it now

[clear heath]

yes, only when the psyker gets the kill tho

[north cradle]

I assumed that CDR for everyone was a given

[supple skiff]

Huh, didn’t realize I was such an altruist with my build

[long wharf]

if trauma targeting is ever fixed, warp flurry and rending shockwave are a very good blessing combo for trauma

[still hearth]

You mean like how Ogryn's toughness feat is worded basically the same but only gives them Toughness Replenishment?

[north cradle]

Ya

[still hearth]

This game's tooltips are like magic tricks

How do they work

[north cradle]

Or their Coherency feat

[still hearth]

No one knows

Yeah that's the Coherency one

[north cradle]

No there are two

[still hearth]

It's worded basically the same as the Psyker feat is

[clear heath]

never trust descriptions

[still hearth]

But the Psyker feat buffs allies

[clear heath]

fatshark lies

[still hearth]

The Ogryn feat buffs the ogryn

[north cradle]

Oh that one

I thought you were talking about the Coherency radius

And Lynchpin

[clear heath]

also half the feats that say elite kill actually mean elite/special kill

[clear heath]

psyker's aura is on elite/special kill

[still hearth]

Compare these two

And think about why one works only on you, and the other works on allies

[north cradle]

Ya I thought Lynchpin gave higher Toughness regen to everyone

[rocky cedar]

It does not

[long wharf]

yes, but the psyker has to get the kill

[still hearth]

The first one should just be +100% Toughness Replenishment (Coherency)

[north cradle]

Not even that. Toughness Replenishment requires Coherency to begin with, same with the Curios

[still hearth]

Except that the curios are called Toughness Regen Speed

This game can't get its terms right to save its life

Also I think this supposedly works on all Toughness recovery

Its just so wack

[clear heath]

trying to figure out what the descriptions really mean is part of the gameplay

the true darktide experience

[still hearth]

Also Knife having 3x Toughness Coherency regen will standing still but 0.5x while moving is

How are you supposed to know this?

Who knows.

[north cradle]

This game really makes you FEEL like a soldier getting operator manuals from the Administratum

[still hearth]

Ogryn passive giving you 20% DR but 36% Toughness DR because their system reduces damage first by the DR and then the Toughness DR.

[leaden orchid]

i am sorry, what is "claw"?

[still hearth]

Haha. Its the weapon Devil's Claw. Catachan Sword

Zealots just call it Claw

[leaden orchid]

thank you

[still hearth]

We nickname all our melees

[north cradle]

Catachan Devil is like M1. It means so many different things

[leaden orchid]

i happen to have found a 380 of those on my psyker

[surreal folio]

die hard works for whole team

[surreal folio]

what curios does everyone run for psych?

im full wound

[north cradle]

+1 Wounds and two +20% Health

[still hearth]

More than 1 Wound is pretty excessive.

[surreal folio]

nice, best perk on curio?

i just like using wounds to replen health when needed

[north cradle]

All three have DR/Gunners and Combat Ability Regen

[surreal folio]

gives more opportunity than 20 health that gets ripped in one hit from behind

[long wharf]

save that shit for #veteran-class

[rocky cedar]

More than 1 wound is meming

[surreal folio]

lol is 20 health worth it though?

[north cradle]

I'd say so. Easier to not go down twice than it is to go down faster but five times

[rocky cedar]

Currently running 2 toughness 1 HP, will transition to all toughness eventually

[surreal folio]

i feel like toughness is useless

[clear heath]

are your teammates even reviving you enough for all those wounds to matter?

[still hearth]

Toughness lets you tank more shots. HP lets you survive a bit more fiesta.

[north cradle]

Yeh I much prefer Health on my Psyker

[still hearth]

If you die 3+ times per station that's a lot of mistakes

[long wharf]

trying to tank anything on heresy+ is a Bad Play

[north cradle]

Toughness can be for Veteran

[long wharf]

I run 2x health and a 3x stamina curio

[surreal folio]

yeah usually because i let them know im going to sacrafice a wound

[still hearth]

Still no stamina curio fix

[rocky cedar]

Taking wounds assumes your team will always be able to get you up when you go down, it also leaves your team one person down when you could have just not gone down with toughness

[long wharf]

not yet, but we can dream

[long wharf]

you mean not gone down with more health

[surreal folio]

yeah but toughness gets depleted reagardless of damage type

[rocky cedar]

I run toughness on every class, I strongly think it's always the best option

[surreal folio]

one hit from behind and 100% of toughness is gone on damnation, even if you have 3 toughness curios

[rocky cedar]

Ewwww no

[surreal folio]

so why bother rocking toughness

[north cradle]

Oh ya my third perk is Corruption Resistance

[surreal folio]

hp curios only seem worth it at 25% being that we only get so much health

not like ogryn where ur buffing 25% of 300

[river sand]

wounds is useless, if you go down more than once you're doing something wrong anyway

[still hearth]

Are we getting a real argument for why Wounds is superior to Toughness or HP

[surreal folio]

wounds ftw

[still hearth]

Is this reddit

[north cradle]

I hope not

[clear heath]

real wound player
i can't believe it

[north cradle]

Imagine being a r*dditor

[surreal folio]

lol

[rocky cedar]

Almost all your sources of toughness are % based, you will take less chip and a lot less damage over a run with toughness if you don't play like complete ass

[north cradle]

[surreal folio]

im telling you guys wounds are the truth

[north cradle]

Yeh that's why I run DR/Gunners on all three slots

[surreal folio]

i can run 3 toughness curios and get hit in the back by a brokie and it drops completely

[rocky cedar]

I fear runs when I get team mates with more than 1 wound, they almost invariably spend half the run on their ass

[rocky cedar]

That's just not true though

[still hearth]

Wounds:
Does nothing unless you're dying (or intentionally down yourself)

Toughness:
Always helps (you recover Toughness easily on all classes)
Gives more effective HP

HP:
Always helps (you usually take less HP damage from enemies than Toughness)
Gives your Wounds more HP so even if you go down once you still get similar levels of HP to a Wound player, your 1st life is just stronger.

[toxic walrus]

So after nerf to force sword/peril blocking, what melee is everyone running

[surreal folio]

yeah but wounds are meant to be used strategically

[still hearth]

I'll give you 1 Wound is fine.

[surreal folio]

not just for the case of getting down

[still hearth]

But any more and you're trolling.

[north cradle]

I'm still running Force Sword for pushes and deleting Scab Ragers

[river sand]

and dont forget if you run grims for weeklies hp is great cause grims give a fixed value of corruption rather than %

[north cradle]

Plus Mutants

[dry tide]

the people I see running full wound are usually the ones that kinda need it

[crude talon]

We playin vet now

[surreal folio]

i barley even notice grims with 3 wounds

[long wharf]

and Corruption Resistance on curios currently affects all sources of corruption

including Grims

[north cradle]

Force Sword with +Dmg/Maniac and +Dmg/Flak is kino

[long wharf]

making Corruption Resistance (Grimoire) redundant

[river sand]

but those perks have better options

[rocky cedar]

You'll find genuine argument between health and toughness but ain't anyone who's gonna stand up for wounds above 1

[river sand]

2x hp curio and the 2 grims only bring you down to 50%

[north cradle]

You're not going to get much better than damage resist and ult regen

[surreal folio]

I am the wound guy

[crude talon]

Cleared all damnations with 3 wounds because I don’t need extra health

[still hearth]

This is the only reason to run Wounds

[rocky cedar]

Ult regen is terrible what?

[still hearth]

"I'm pro enough I can use bad stuff and still win"

[surreal folio]

lol

[river sand]

not true, running 3x toghness reg. its back up in just 1 second ( i know its bugged atm)

[still hearth]

If you run 5 Wounds

[north cradle]

I got like 10% ult regen all together

[still hearth]

On your 3rd and 4th Wound

[rocky cedar]

Man those 3 seconds I saved for the price of 3 perk slots really helped

[surreal folio]

i usually run damnation with full wounds and carry

[still hearth]

You're basically a one-shot

[rocky cedar]

Woowee

[surreal folio]

toughness regen is pretty much non existant

unless things have changed

[river sand]

they changed drastically

[north cradle]

On Psyker? Plenty of toughness regen options

[still hearth]

Psyker already had some of the most reliable Toughness regen options.

[north cradle]

Essence Harvest + Ascendant Blaze rules

[still hearth]

You could always be recovering Toughness

[rocky cedar]

Like if you run wounds and still do good on Damn good for you but you're genuinely just making things harder for yourself

[river sand]

with 3x toughness reg perks you get > 100 toughness / sec in coherency and your quietude is buffed as well

[still hearth]

Quitetude isn't buffed.

[long wharf]

sounds like you play with shit players

[rocky cedar]

Pretty sure quietude is unaffected by the perk

[still hearth]

It only works on Coherency.

Its also not 100 toughness per second.

It's at most 3.6x normal toughness regen

(aside from secret weapon modifiers)

[rocky cedar]

Unless you're Ogryn

[clear heath]

it's also very clearly bugged and is probably gonna get patched

[still hearth]

Yeah Ogryn gets 7.2x

[north cradle]

1-2-2-1-1-2 is how I stack my Psyker

[surreal folio]

am I wrong for this buildout

[still hearth]

So its 18 Toughness per second if you use a default weapon.

That's pretty standard build.

Depends on your weapons

[rocky cedar]

Loadout looks fine to me but depends on weapons

[surreal folio]

psych aura would be my only choice

[still hearth]

I prefer Psych aura to get more BBs with KB coming back

[north cradle]

Yeh

[still hearth]

Communion is kind of just lazy

[north cradle]

I also run Cerebral Lacerations sometimes

[clear heath]

Well he's running essence harvest so communion makes sense here

[rocky cedar]

Communion is good if you want peril resist and damage bonus but don't want to be BBing continuously

[crude talon]

Sadly though @still hearth I was FORCED to use stam curios now because they RUINED psyker with the nerfs! I’m so mad about it honestly

[rocky cedar]

It's more playstyle than lazy

[still hearth]

Psyker was OP though. Deserved.

[crude talon]

It’s unplayable now

Actually

[north cradle]

Gun Psykers run 3-2-2-1-3-3, right?

[still hearth]

I run 3-2-2-1-1-3 on GunPsyker iirc

[surreal folio]

why run stam curios?

[crude talon]

The patch notes actually made me cry for real

[still hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cry-gif-20572972

[north cradle]

I like having a random BB kill an Ogryn or Mutant I'm shooting at on occasion

[surreal folio]

random bb with a columnus isnt bad

just cant handle large volume

[north cradle]

I'm a Kantrael Mk XII man

[surreal folio]

• crit is cool

kan has sick amount of ammo

[north cradle]

I'm supposed to be in the back of the formation anyway, so having a weapon with an inverted damage falloff is fun for that

[still hearth]

XII is just stupidly effective

High damage and high ammo

[north cradle]

Blue weapons BTFO

[still hearth]

My general playstyle on Gun Psyker is BB twice > XII spam

Then BB as needed

[surreal folio]

whats btfo lol

[still hearth]

Build The Future Omae

[long wharf]

the MGXII lasgun won't stay the way it is, I can tell you that

it's not in line with the rest of the lasguns

going to be a lot of salty vets and zealots when that gets addressed

[still hearth]

Or maybe

They buff the worse guns

[long wharf]

lol

no.

[still hearth]

That would be a trip

[still hearth]

Hey man, they buffed Trauma

[surreal folio]

would be hood if it had more damage

[long wharf]

sure, by bringing it more in line with the other staves

same thing is going to happen to the MGXII

[north cradle]

Mmm +25% Flak

Swap that other one for Maniac and you got yourself a swanky weapon

[surreal folio]

not a bad idea

can i lose possibility of refining to a lower % perk?

i feel like tht shit has happen to me in the past

[still hearth]

You just gotta reroll forever

[north cradle]

It can be upgraded from T3 to T4 if that's what you're asking

[surreal folio]

its just rolling?

[north cradle]

I've never seen a T2 perk on any weapon at Level 30 except at Melk's

[still hearth]

A max roll weapon will basically roll T3 or T4 perks randomly.

So yeah you can't not get T3 perks

It'll just randomly pick one from either tier

[surreal folio]

and its possible to roll a t4 is your t3?

[clear heath]

I've occasionally gotten t2 from perk rerolling before

[surreal folio]

i feel like ive refined a t4 and it gave me a t3

[north cradle]

Yeh a T4 can become T3

[surreal folio]

it works vice versa also?

[still hearth]

Yes

[north cradle]

Melk offered me a 289 Power Sword once. With Deflector and Slaughterer. Fuck Melk

[clear heath]

yeah it's just a reroll
it can become anything that weapon could normally get

a t4 could become a t2, although rerolling into a t2 seems pretty rare

[surreal folio]

good to know i can keep rolling and get a t4

about to spend all my shit

[north cradle]

Can you imagine if Fatshark stuck to their guns and made refining a weapon more expensive each time?

[clear heath]

it gets cheaper and cheaper until it becomes free so eventually you just spam the button for an hour till you have what you want

[surreal folio]

is this true

dont tell me this

[north cradle]

Yeh

[surreal folio]

gtfo

[north cradle]

It eventually becomes free

[surreal folio]

WTF

[manic needle]

99 diamantine and 299 plasteel on an orange weapon

thats when you reach free status

[north cradle]

I wish I could just spend 300 Plasteel and 100 Diamantine at one time to choose a T4 perk

[surreal folio]

i think if you could choose everything would get nerfed

everyone would end up with a similar build

random roll keeps you playing longer also

[idle bay]

No Psyker nerfs in 1.0.23 hotfix. I'm dissapointed

[manic needle]

Too intelligent for these devs tbh

[clear heath]

i think he just means picking the perk instead of rerolling for an hour to get that perk

[north cradle]

There is virtually zero practical difference between rerolling a thousand times and choosing once

[clear heath]

it's completely pointless. It's free anyways so you're just pressing the button over and over until it happens

[north cradle]

When in your mindless clicking, you accidentally reroll the perk you wanted

[surreal folio]

i get what you mean

[supple skiff]

Engagement tactic

[surreal folio]

i agree

didnt think of it that way

and ive accidentally rerolled myself into trash

sometimes the shit is delayed

alot of things seem to be delayed

like fixing the book bug..

maybe we should spend more money on aquila so they have more budget to work with 😛

[idle bay]

So:

1. Actual hotfix
2. No psyker nerfs
   It's not a Fatshark! Someone replaced them!

[clear heath]

take your bets on how many more patches until they decide to blind us again

my bet is 2

[surreal folio]

lol

[idle bay]

1

And 3 patches to cause headaches with new SFX

[manic needle]

It's not a Fatshark patch if it doesnt give some middle finger to Psykers

[surreal folio]

lol

[still hearth]

It'll be great Next Week ™️ when they buff Psyker

[surreal folio]

psyk was fun when the game came out not sure what happend since

[manic needle]

VFX buffs only

[surreal folio]

I started playing ogryn bc nobody was playing it

[manic needle]

My bet for the next strobe effect is Disco Rave Voidstrike

[surreal folio]

lmfao

[manic needle]

And frankly Im excited for the new content

[surreal folio]

did anybody like the newest rollout of cosmetics?

i thought it was a off

a little off*

[clear heath]

my bet is force sword block
people are already complaining about it being nerfed
it's about time they make it "feel more impactful"

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-21901672

20 mb patch today?

[surreal folio]

LOL

[cold geode]

The fuck did they do now?

[idle bay]

It will be DEAFENING SFX when quelling 🙂

[manic needle]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-0-23/74137

[clear heath]

supposedly they fixed the bug where psykers got blinded for having peril

[cold geode]

ahh yea, that flashing shit when you get suppressed while at high peril

to bad they didn't revert the changes to KD and deflector

[manic needle]

They won't ever

[idle bay]

They will not back down from hurting psykers .. ever! It's the funniest thing in their roadmap 🙂

[cold geode]

ITS JUST LIKE THE LORE

[slow karma]

A new day, a new pool of bile to soak in.

[idle bay]

I'm still in doubt about investing in swapping some Curios for Toughness regen. It's a lot of materials to spend, and they can roll that change back or tune it down drastically

[slow karma]

You're right, they can. And will. so don't

[supple skiff]

Also that EULA change sounds super fucking fishy

[slow karma]

Don't nobody read that shit

[supple skiff]

I dropped 4K plasters on it today for shits, would def give it a minute lol

I’m probably going to get burned on that

Once that ogyrn lynchpin regen gets noticed

[idle bay]

I'll hold on my humble material reservs for a while now. They can be both toughness regen changes and crafting changes (in a few months) and my enthusiasm to play is a at 0 currently

[crude talon]

Oh that toughness shit is gonna get taken away for SURE

ogryn with lynchpin should be (with 3 tier 4 toughness regens) 345% but it’s 560% right now.

Still crazy if working as it should but

Anyone else should be like 172% with those curios but are at 360% rn.

[still hearth]

Actually Ogryns are 720%

[crude talon]

Really? Am I that dumb?

Wouldn’t it be 2+1.2+1.2+1.2?

Wait.

Which applies first? Lynchpin?

Or curios?

[still hearth]

Lynchpin is multiplicative afaik

So it just doubles the total value

[crude talon]

Syllogism help I’m bad at math

[still hearth]

Otherwise Ogryns wouldn't be that much faster

[summer prairie]

Ogryn talent modifies the coherency multiplier ( which is normally 0, 50%, 75%, 100%)

It is another different multiplier, so 3.6 x 2

[crude talon]

Ohhhh

Thanks

[errant forge]

So, I’m dumb and not sure what perks to take. Usually i hang further back, taking out enemies with a staff, not a ton of options since im only level 16, any suggestions on what to do?

[manic needle]

That doesn't tell us anything really. What kind of staff do you use?

[still hearth]

Level 16 is pretty early for much to change

[errant forge]

I usually have one that lets you lob the projectile like a grenade?

Big explosion when it hits

[still hearth]

Voidstrike probably, if its a projectile

[manic needle]

At your level I'd probably try Warp Absorption, Inner Tranquility, and Psychic Communion

[errant forge]

Alright, I’ll try those all out, thanks a ton!

[summer prairie]

Also if you stand still you may regen toughness 3x faster, maybe depending on your weapon

3 x 7.2

[still hearth]

Knife regens faster than Ogryn

And has 0.8s delay

It's actually insane

[summer prairie]

Not sure if any of the ogryn weapons have that actually

Power maul I think

[fierce sinew]

1 hotfix in and toughness regen still unchanged

clownshark

[dim summit]

Anybody notice that weapon skins prevent the lightning effect from force swords' secondsry attacks? Wondering if it's just me. I'll sunmit a bug report eventually, but haven't had time to document it all.

[lament topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-mad-going-insane-going-crazy-gif-24274574

[frank talon]

Are you thinking of vet's power sword? We only get a shimmer of warp on the force sword.

[surreal folio]

just a shimmer

[dim summit]

I'm talking about the shimmer.

[frank talon]

Ah, no just you then. My shimmer is working with the mortis skin

[dim summit]

I equipped a skin and there was no light when I did the secondsry attack and I was thinking the attack had stopped working. Then I realized it was working but I had no visual indication because there was no glow.

[dim summit]

Cool. I'll be sure to specify my skin in the bug report.

[surreal folio]

double check graphics options settings havent changed

mine reverted back to default the other day on its own

[frank talon]

Can you replicate it in the meat grinder? Try with different skins?

[surreal folio]

he needs some shims

max out ragdoll count while your in there

makes the game just a little more fun

youll start to notice piles of bodies at funnel zones

[frank talon]

I turned down ragdolls to like 8 without even playing default because of risk of rain 2 ptsd

[surreal folio]

never played brother

James Alexander voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZTnCMOXvE0

to put a face on the psykers voice

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2396083/?ref_=tt_cl_t_16

[frozen osprey]

i finally got my first hood today! still haven't gotten the first penance one tho 🥲

[wet jacinth]

Someone else to rival my drip

[surreal folio]

i rock the blue striped suit

[frozen osprey]

begh you still beat me out i aint got the real cash for yours

[wet jacinth]

Imean its only the top piece I'm wearing but yeah

[frozen osprey]

it's got a SKULL and everyone knows skulls immediately outclass everything

[wet jacinth]

I personally need to save up and get the black top with only 1 Shoulder guard

[surreal folio]

does anybody think cosmetics actually have hidden buffs?

[wet jacinth]

No

[frozen osprey]

after i get the last legs in the set im gonna grind out that one. i wanna eventually buy out the whole shop

[cloud heron]

Have the trauma buffs changed any opinions on it?

[surreal folio]

striped suit is the most presentable lol

[cloud heron]

just picked this up from the shop, going to give it a go

[surreal folio]

i got bored and ground out every buyable in cosmetics

[frozen osprey]

imma be honest i havent been able to test it out yet the only trauma staff i had was piss poor and i havent gone out of my way to buy a better one yet

[wet jacinth]

Bold of you to assume I'd change my opinion on trauma over using a Purgatus or Surge

[frozen osprey]

i switched from vet and i think burning a whole horde effortlessly is equally satisfying to using the plasma or bolter. it's an incredible feeling

[wet jacinth]

When I play Vet. I'm a Helbore sniper

[frozen osprey]

i use bolter or plasma primarily because they're just simply awesome to use

but helbore is very fun

[north cradle]

Kantrael Mk XII is just such a good all-arounder. I let Zealot and Psyker handle the Ogryns

[wet jacinth]

Disgusting

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-vomit-sick-hermoine-granger-gif-14007863

[dim summit]

I tried out trauma over the weekend for the first time in a while because I got a new one. I don't think the patch was up, but holy cow! It was way more fun than I remembered!

[north cradle]

Kantrael Mk XII and a Claw Sword Mk I

Keeps it simple and I don't have to fight people for ammo

[supple skiff]

in every shooter that has one I usually opt for the DMR option, XII feels real good but its too good

[frozen osprey]

lasguns are cool but it's just not nearly as satisfying as the alternative

[north cradle]

Same, Halo conditioned me to pick the DMR

Boltguns are too vicious on recoil for me to enjoy using

[frozen osprey]

claw sword?! who do you think you are

[wet jacinth]

Recoil is fun though

I'm actually lowkey upset they "nerfed" the recoil on braced autoguns

[supple skiff]

melta gun when

[north cradle]

Power Sword is too clunky for me to use, plus it's weaker than a Claw Sword when uncharged

[wet jacinth]

Devils claws are actually solid pick.

[frozen osprey]

there was a leak we are supposed to get one actually

[north cradle]

We were supposed to have three flavours of Force Sword too

[supple skiff]

[frozen osprey]

i can grab the proof if you want

[ornate hamlet]

@wet jacinth

[supple skiff]

nah I'll take your word for it

2h force sword would be great

[frozen osprey]

NICE

[frozen osprey]

okay then im lying and you should never trust me

[supple skiff]

fuck outta here with that leprachaun riddle shit

[north cradle]

Yeh, a Force Sword with sweeps. Hopefully it would also be a Deflector and have the warp charge

[wet jacinth]

Are those pants part of the new cosmetics?

[true shadow]

Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword

[wet jacinth]

I heard they released one more set but I havent seen em

[ornate hamlet]

dunno if they're still avail

[supple skiff]

yeah see, what do you do with a 2 handed force sword to make it feel different

[north cradle]

More sweeping attacks

[supple skiff]

more cleave for sure

[ornate hamlet]

the pants were part of a $ package, the top and hood are from the in-game coin NPC

[supple skiff]

but if the alt fire is the same idea then its just a better verison of the standard then

[ornate hamlet]

they go great together tho

[north cradle]

I think a Force Glaive that would act similarly to the Power Sword would be cool

[wet jacinth]

inb4 they gives dual force swords

All the Kiritos

[supple skiff]

off hand las pistol

[ornate hamlet]

i'd rather dual axes

[wet jacinth]

[supple skiff]

unironically

[north cradle]

Change the First Target bonus of the one-handed Force Swords to Penetration or Critical Bonus

[wet jacinth]

Rager Ping

[supple skiff]

not like they're all that great anyways

[ornate hamlet]

if rager was a class i'd hop on board

[north cradle]

Then give the Force Greatsword First Target instead of Cleave Damage

[ornate hamlet]

it's always cleave or finesse i think

[true shadow]

moveset like grail knight sword in vt2 would be nice

[north cradle]

I was just thinking that

[true shadow]

psyker should be ELEGANT

[supple skiff]

I need to play VT, only put like 20 hours in lol

[surreal folio]

is vermintide 2 better than 40k

ive heard things

[north cradle]

Play Kerillian to Level 35, then put her on Waystalker when you NPC her

[supple skiff]

see I always viewed human psykers are more brutish in application

[true shadow]

a force halberd i can swing like a sword would also be cool

[fierce sinew]

It's more feature complete, but the gameplay structure is different enough I don't think you can call either better

[true shadow]

like the custodes/grey knight style glaive but smol

[north cradle]

No sprint but you're running at top speed all the time, so that feels good

Compared to Darktide's 50/50 on melee and ranged, Vermintide 2 is like 80/20

[supple skiff]

I played a fair bit of one, don't know if a lot of mechanics changed

[ornate hamlet]

dual staff plz

[frozen osprey]

dual wield stave when?

[north cradle]

I actually prefer having a faster jogging speed instead of sprinting

[surreal folio]

would enjoy a smaller force hammer

[fierce sinew]

Surge and purge, for when you want the heretics to shake while they bake

[supple skiff]

are non nemisis force halberds a thing?

[true shadow]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-warhammer-gauss-gif-24598584

[true shadow]

there's multiple types of force weapons

[north cradle]

Yeah, Nemesis Force Weapons are just beefed up Force Weapons for Grey Knights

[true shadow]

that are used extensively

[surreal folio]

we need green weapons

[supple skiff]

I know theres hammers and shit

thought the halberds were grey bois only though

[true shadow]

force hammers
force axes

force spears

[north cradle]

In theory, any weapon you can think of could be constructed Force or Power

[ornate hamlet]

nice...

[north cradle]

Power Fists for Ogryn would be zawesome

[true shadow]

scythes

[surreal folio]

lol so psyker shouldve had them damit!

[true shadow]

like there's countless psykers with unique variant weapons too

[surreal folio]

would be cool if we had tox weapons introudced to some classes

[supple skiff]

suppose I shouldn't be suprised

def want more force weapons

[true shadow]

the grey knights have a force doomfist

for their psyker dreadnoughts

[supple skiff]

baby carriers *

[true shadow]

which is just hilarious

[surreal folio]

force fist would be dope

[frozen osprey]

force spoon

[true shadow]

i refuse to say dreadknight or baby carrier

[supple skiff]

fair lol

[frozen osprey]

imperial guard also has power fists

[true shadow]

but yes

the basic force weapon

is just a weapon

[north cradle]

Teen Titan

[true shadow]

really, we get two

[frozen osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1067910438026747924/Imperial-Guard-Cadian-Officers-with-Power-Fists.png

[true shadow]

a staff and a sword

[frozen osprey]

so anyone could get it :D

[true shadow]

which is somewhat uncommon

[north cradle]

Didn't the Psyker in the trailers have a Power Sword?

[ornate hamlet]

How many weapons can we actually keep in our inventory in total?

[true shadow]

but the design is always personal

barring production weapons for the grey knights

[supple skiff]

ideally I'd like to see a hammer for anti armor, and 2h sword for cleave, and maybe some third thing for idk reach?

[surreal folio]

deff a force hammer

[north cradle]

Force Glaive or Force Halberd like Kerillian and Kruber

[true shadow]

a force halberd with sweeping attacks would be cool.

simple as

[surreal folio]

ogryns talk alot about pirates i think they should get a sword

[north cradle]

Force Greatsword would be a blend of Force Sword and Force Halberd

[true shadow]

ogryn pirate cutlass

[supple skiff]

on the topic of force weapons

beast of nurgle should take more damage from alt fire change my mind

[frozen osprey]

why do you say?

[surreal folio]

alt fire dnt do enough damage to bosses for sure

[cloud heron]

I have played one heresy game with the trauma staff now and can say that it actually feels pretty good

it's like a mix between void and surge, aoe stun (through knockback) and horde clear

[frozen osprey]

i agree but im curious why bon specifically

[frozen osprey]

thats nice! im glad you enjoyed it :D

[surreal folio]

shooters power sword does seem to do alot

[supple skiff]

well its a daemon, which are suppose to really get walloped by force weapons

[surreal folio]

would only feel rt if force did also

[frozen osprey]

That sounds reasonable

[dire saddle]

has anyone gotten this,if so,how?

[cloud heron]

throneside espionage, the interrogator before the elevator

a wave of 5+ gunners will spawn each time the interrogator goes down

[dire saddle]

thx

[austere estuary]

I got pick'n'mix in comms plex 2f finale room

just picking off random gunners and a trapper

though not sure the trapper counted

turbo brain boost is good

[forest coral]

just let your group know that you are doing this challenge as well

[cloud heron]

yeah you definitely want kinetic barrage

[forest coral]

or the vets are likely to pick them off

[austere estuary]

if you start from 0% peril, cast one normal brain burst, then F, you can cast 5 more before even needing to quell once

and all 5 will be fast

the last one will literally start at 97%, it's very neat and tidy

should be easier now with the improved bb targeting than it was

[desert skiff]

If anyone wants to see an example of getting "Going Out With A Bang" here's me finally getting it

[supple skiff]

only good use for trauma

[frozen osprey]

ah yes this is definitely a reasonable penance you would never struggle to achieve

[desert skiff]

I got lucky

[frozen osprey]

fr

[desert skiff]

But you can see from the clip I should have gone over 100% like several seconds earlier

[frozen osprey]

it should AT LEAST one shot all non-ogryn/monstrosity enemies

[desert skiff]

I got lucky the ragers didnt knock me down

[frozen osprey]

shouldnt have to get lucky smh

[forest coral]

I wish they would increase the damage of suicide

too many times it doesnt do enough damage

[supple skiff]

make it one shot everything save for monstrosities but you go straight to the shadow realm when it happens

[forest coral]

Imo it should one shot everything that isnt a mauler or the ogryns/ monstrosities

[frozen osprey]

it one shots everything in the game but spawns a daemonhost (:

[forest coral]

That would also be lore accurate

[frozen osprey]

im fine ditching the lore in this case 😅

[supple skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-astartes-3d-art-nope-gif-16794679

[cloud heron]

Even Ogryns should just die. Going down is bad.

[forest coral]

psyker griefing class fr

[forest coral]

Might be a bit too strong then, then again im not against it since sienna overload was pretty damn strong in vermintide

[cloud heron]

i didnt play VT2 but wasnt sienna the worst character?

[forest coral]

quite the opposite actually

Sienna was horrible low tier because she was more of a dot damage dealer in alot of cases

in high difficulty, a good sienna literally will do all of the teams damage put together x2-3 in some cases

She was squishier than everyone else and you had to manage her version of peril but she was either specced toward horde control or elite sniping. Her weapons set fire to huge swathe of enemies and staggered like a boss

[leaden thunder]

there is one staff in particular that makes the highest difficulty look like easy mod iirc

[forest coral]

Conflag iirc

[leaden thunder]

I though it was coruscation or somethign like that

[forest coral]

ah yea

coruscation, beam, bolt

i think those were the main ones

beam was monstrosity killing machine, bolt sniped elites, coruscation which burned everything that ran through it and could be stacked

[cursive kraken]

god these penances are stupid af

what clown thought making penances that require you to play suboptimally was a good idea

[manic needle]

The same one that decides that Psyker needs a nerf every month

[leaden thunder]

which penance?

[frozen osprey]

steve in accounting thought it would be funny

[ornate hamlet]

just don't do them

[frozen osprey]

but FUNNY CLOTHES

[forest coral]

I’ve gotten malleus monstronum before out with a bang

[frozen osprey]

penances are the only way to get above average clothing without paying real cash

[lucid terrace]

I don’t have any of them.

[forest coral]

Out with a bang sucks

So much of it is asking for favours lol

or just cheesing the stupid game in some way

[cursive kraken]

this is the real reason they are made to be very hard to get...so you'll spend cash

[frozen osprey]

probably. i wouldnt put it past them

[north cradle]

Weirdly enough, Fatshark didn't put in Heresy penances as Steam achievements

I wonder what the completion stats look like for those

[forest coral]

probably sub 2% imo

[floral solstice]

[cold zinc]

the heresy penances are so much easier than out with a bang though

I guess they are locked behind people having to play heresy difficult but one is at least do able by just playing the game normally

and monstrous is just having patient teammates

[cursive kraken]

my biggest issue is that most o fthem require you to play badly to succeed

[floral solstice]

well they kinda designed it to be done with a premade team anyway

or tell randoms if you're solo queueing, at the very least

[spring hamlet]

Hello. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to reroll on this staff?

im thinking about replacing elites w/flak

[manic needle]

Reroll it into crit tbh

[spring hamlet]

Oh really? Is crit that important on purg?

I dont doubt it, this is just the first im dipping my toes into optimizing psyker stuff

[manic needle]

Crits apply double the stacks of soulblaze

[spring hamlet]

Ahhhhh

[cold zinc]

^

[spring hamlet]

that makes sense

Cool cool ty

I'll do that then

damn lucky I got warp nexus then lol

rolled 8 max crit damage in a row lol

hadron pls

[idle fog]

Anyone here have experience with 6 stacks of soulblaze as your ultimate/lvl 30 choice? Does it do work or only on certain difficulties?

[floral solstice]

it does work even on damnation, especially with purgatus

cleans a group of shooters with enough stacks

if you don't mind the whole warp charges maintaining thing then it's good

[full kayak]

can someone help with penance of killing Monstrosity? I can tank for you too if u help me

[forest coral]

muh warp charges

[floral solstice]

try lfg channels if no one answers here

[floral solstice]

"oh, you have 6 charges after a horde and nothing to use it on now? ha ha say goodbye to all your stacks soon"

we really need to force these devs to spam damnation with psyker lol

[forest coral]

thats bold of you ranni

the ones who do damnation probably on vet

[manic needle]

Still a highly credible conspiracy

[floral solstice]

i wouldn't be surprised if all of them mained vet

it's their baby

[manic needle]

It's the only way they can play on Malice difficulty probably

[floral solstice]

ogryns close 2nd main if based on the recent patch

that toughness regen do be zooming

[manic needle]

More credible that the devs just cannot into math

[safe pendant]

It'd be neat if they had the other VAs from other classes stream some gameplay too

[manic needle]

Given how much of the Ogryn was broken on release

[maiden wolf]

Two interesting trauma staves that appeard in my shops just now.

[maiden wolf]

Cliffhanger still has its pre-buff achievement requitements for steam,

I'm really interested in blazing spirit, but I don't want to spend marks until I find one with tier 4 blazing spirit.

[manic needle]

Low charge rate is really bad on Trauma fwiw

[north cradle]

Seems like it got updated, and I definitely never knocked over 20 people before launch

@maiden wolf

[lethal plover]

oh hey, they "buffed" psyker

[north cradle]

Psyker was definitely buffed. With a sander.

[cloud heron]

FYI, you need 76 burn to apply the maximum possible soulblaze stacks. Each stack is a pretty significant jump in damage, so the difference between 14 and 15 is notable.

Not saying not to use the staff, but you may want to keep an eye out for another staff if you like purge

[nocturne badge]

the first good thing melk has given me

[noble mason]

TB any good after update? i wanna try this guy out

[nocturne badge]

it's good, use it

t4 transfer peril makes the B+ rolls worth it

terrifying barrage is good too

[spring hamlet]

good to know ty

[cloud heron]

anyone have any news on the armory chrome extension?

[safe pendant]

Once again Melk fails me on all 4 classes

[near gale]

Is this worth the melk bucks?

[quick heron]

id say yeah if you are not keen on a force sword

[near gale]

I am not really keen on the force sword >.>

[quick heron]

reroll melee to flak, and then hope for no limbsplitter

[near gale]

On a side note: How are these stat rolls, for this force sword?

[cloud heron]

losing finesse sucks but it's good overall

[quick heron]

descent. sucks low finesse, as its way better to roll low mobility with infinite dodges on the FS

[cloud heron]

would've preferred lower mobility or warp resistance

[near gale]

Oh, I just noticed that it had infinite effective dodges after you said that. I never noticed that, before. <.<

[cloud heron]

you have the most important stats for sniping big guys, which is what i mostly use force sword for

[near gale]

I just found the new go-to ranged weapon, for my psyker!

with the 80% stopping power I can stop... a poxwalker! 😮

[frozen osprey]

🤯

[near gale]

And maybe even... a groaner!

[frozen osprey]

whats the different between a poxwalker and a groaner?

[near gale]

One has a backpack and hoodie, I think

[frozen osprey]

which one?

[near gale]

So, uh, which dueling sword is better? :/

[near gale]

The one that doesn't look like it has horrific plagues literally deforming it.

[frozen osprey]

if i were you id keep the right one but im not good with minmaxxing so i might be stupid

[frozen osprey]

fair enough

[near gale]

I own both. I think I bought the right one since it looked like an upgrade.

[floral solstice]

maybe try to consecrate it to blue first

the blessing will help you decide

[near gale]

too poor on plasteel atm xD

[floral solstice]

well that's the darktide endgame experience

[near gale]

I kinda figured that out, since I have all 4 characters at level 30 xD

[frozen osprey]

play easier difficulties they drop plasteel much more

[near gale]

But I want the fat l00t(coinz) 😭

[frozen osprey]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

then no plasteel for you

[near gale]

I'm okay with this. :3

[safe pendant]

Ever notice that extra 10 plasteel at the end of missions? Yeah, that was me.

[frozen osprey]

:3

[near gale]

Usually most of the plasteel I find. <.<

Since I am a loot goblin

Question: If you already got a purple curio to free rerolls... couldn't you change the free perk to something you don't want, to lessen the chances of getting something you don't want? >.>

Like changing it to +#% experience, so you can't get that when you upgrade it to orange

[safe pendant]

But then you'd probably get stuck with something like ordo dockets

[cloud heron]

I dont see why not, but it's probably a bad idea to reroll a curio that isnt orange

[near gale]

Maybe, but, that's at least useful when you're spending all of them... unlike exp

[safe pendant]

Spending all of them...yeah, sure, I spend all of my dockets

[near gale]

I legit have no dockets on any of my 4 level 30 characters, asside from my zealot xD

I... I like testing out weapons, sometimes. <.<

[cloud heron]

Playing more with the trauma on damnation, I actually hate it again

not enough killing, not enough knockback

[near gale]

I've at least seen one use that on heresy... I can't remember how well they did, tho.

[cloud heron]

the situation I liked at first was the ability to knock down whole squads of shotgunners instantly

but it needs too much charge to do it on reaction

[slow karma]

What loot do you get from higher difficulties?

[cloud heron]

nothing

[slow karma]

Cuz that's also not at all a reason to even play this game

[cloud heron]

it's just fun

[slow karma]

Sorry it was in reference to this strange remark.

You get so much less out of the game sweating on damnation or even heresy

Heresy is more comfortable really

[near gale]

I think, maybe, a very slightly higher chance of higher quality stuff... but that's probably bs, since I got an orange item from a sedition run

[slow karma]

Malice is breezy

the problem is you're banking on emperor's gifts when those aren't even guaranteed to happen at all

so you're spinning your wheels more often than not

[near gale]

I have more fun. If the game is too boring it can't hold my attention very well, since I have adhd.

[slow karma]

This is not a game I'd suffer through with that but more power to ya. Fun is more valid than any other reason

but the loot? Nah, brah, that shit's dogpiss

Hopefully that changes at some point

cuz I'd really rather be getting my gear from missions

[cloud heron]

dopamine addiction is a terrible thing