psyker-class

[hexed ibex]

A leadweight around my bloody ankle

[runic gate]

I saw this earlier. No need to lie

[desert lance]

Punching bag

[clear heath]

it wasn't posted by me. it's not even my video

it even has the name of the person who made it, vanessa

[runic gate]

Very exciting

[summer prairie]

of course vets benefit most from that

[runic gate]

So toughness regen is working again it seems neat

[manic needle]

+Stamina curios still broken?

[strong fog]

yes

[manic needle]

Epic.

[clear heath]

well, toughness regen is flat isn't it? might not be as insane on them since they have so much toughness anyways
probably still amazing though, given their usual playstyle

[mental rock]

just saw the patch notes.... am now even more sad about playing psyker with no passive quell. guess ill just keep playing drg

[desert lance]

You will shock zee enemies for the better classes and like it

[magic burrow]

at least I'll now be able to move around without feeling like a cripple again while actively quelling

or is that decreased toughness damage feat worth it?

that never seemed to really make a difference for me

[boreal wave]

Next up, nerf the Surge staff

[clear heath]

idk, it seems fine if your playstyle doesn't involve blocking much

[desert lance]

CC only occurs on crit or something.

[boreal wave]

After that: Reroll all Psykers into Veterans.

[magic burrow]

they already tried that. Turns out giving your players epileptic seizures is kind of bad PR, though, so they reverted it.

[idle bay]

Or just play on gun psykers for higher diffculty 🙂

[clear heath]

I'm curious how stupid the game gets when I do 3x 20% toughness regen speed on psyker
might actually be really good after the fix

just gotta spend the next hour rerolling curio perks

[boreal wave]

They'll probably make the surge staff generate peril as fast as trauma

[manic needle]

Yeah Curio itemization just demotivates me to play generally

[clear heath]

maybe they should actually finish crafting before doing more things that affect balance so they can see how the community changes their builds and balance around that

[runic gate]

My thought, I got all toons to 30 and I find myself having more fun with ogyrn, zealot, vet, then psyker. I hope we get a warp charge rework and a buff to flame staff so it's a little closer to zealot flamer.

[brittle crest]

yea i haven't really noticed, but my playstyle wasn't to just run in and block forever either XD

[rapid flicker]

mine either

dodge

[hexed ibex]

Thats because psyker is way undertuned in comparison. I feel bad playing my psyker in heresy+ as I feel like a half character

[desert lance]

It was still useful to walk into the room drawing all the gunfire and let the ranged units pick em off.

[rapid flicker]

i don’t find myself with this problem

what build do you play?

[austere estuary]

imo before this patch, psyker with staff was well tuned - shred and executor in particular especially benefit the strengths of staves

but now they're gone

and the buffs in place are not close to making up the difference

[hexed ibex]

If I compare what I can do on my psyker with what I can do on my Vet/Zealot/Ogryn its not even close, I don't think I could clutch on psyker ever

[magic burrow]

I still dont see what's OP about the Psyker being able to tank.

[hexed ibex]

Voidstrike/KD was what I was running, obviously gotta change now

[rapid flicker]

def run purge

with a good build for it

[austere estuary]

purge got the hardest nerf

shred means so much more to it

[manic needle]

With what melee weapon?

[rapid flicker]

i use without shred

and i’m fine

[hexed ibex]

I was running Surge but got tired of like, not killing anything and relying on my teammates to clear everything which they wouldn't do

[austere estuary]

then you were already hard nerfing yourself

[summer prairie]

I would guess <1% of purg users were abusing shred

[rapid flicker]

usually shine on heresy+

[hexed ibex]

Mk5 Dueling was what I was using

[rapid flicker]

more things to burn

with purge

[austere estuary]

and we're not discussing fine or not

it was playable and did okay

but talking comparative to other classes

[manic needle]

Ahh, I doubt it will affect my build much with Voidstrike/FS

[rapid flicker]

and combo bb proccing specials for fast regen

usually can f in no time with my build

[leaden pier]

how's kinetic deflection performing now with the new patch?

[magic burrow]

whenever I run Purge, everyone wants to clear hordes. Whenever I run Surge, no one clears hordes. At least, that's what it feels like.

[runic gate]

True, I can play my Ogyrn as goofy as I want and still do well in T4/5 easily, same with zealot with flamer. As Psyker I feel like I gotta play pretty tryhard and that makes it a bit less fun. Ogyrn is such a good ol time.

[rapid flicker]

just back luck then brother

[hexed ibex]

Kind of a liability now

[clear heath]

honestly global blessings were just fun, and i kinda wish the game was balanced around them
adds an extra layer of depth to the combat
crucian was obviously broken but they could just tune the numbers for that

[manic needle]

A lot worse with non-force weapons, since it interrupts your passive quell

[hexed ibex]

Yeah I feel that hard man

[leaden pier]

man i guess back to fs for me huh

[austere estuary]

them gutting non force weapon deflection man

that was crazy

[magic burrow]

the reason I switched to melee was to passively quell peril. The KD feat now actively works against that if you block.

[rapid flicker]

@hexed ibex you gonna run purge you think?

[austere estuary]

yup...

terrible change

[lucid horizon]

guys i dont know to much eanglish but did they justo nerf again our psyker?

[hexed ibex]

I don't have a great blessing loadout on the purges I have but I guess its that or surge and praying my teammates kill things

[lucid horizon]

😐

[manic needle]

It should make a difference even with Force Sword TBH, I just need to get a guage on how much of a difference it makes

[austere estuary]

oh but time for me to test my curios

[rapid flicker]

gonna have to wait for a god roll purge

[clear heath]

on the bright side, they buffed trauma staff

[manic needle]

I doubt it will be game breaking since I dont rely on FS for quelling but...

[austere estuary]

I was already running lots of toughnes with 60% toughness regen speed

[austere estuary]

actually still overall fat fat nerfs

[rapid flicker]

i have pretty good curios

[austere estuary]

great QoL though

[lucid horizon]

😔

[magic burrow]

even with less peril Trauma is still a terrible staff

[austere estuary]

but no executor on trauma, and peril change is meaningless for it

[leaden pier]

does purge now consistantly proc ascendant blaze now?

[rapid flicker]

213 hp as psker with above 150 toughness??

[austere estuary]

well, nearly meaningless

[idle bay]

They buffed couple of things and nerfed our best means of extra survivability

[rapid flicker]

i can’t remember my toughness lol

[hexed ibex]

The answer is yes my friend

[lucid horizon]

which one?

[lucid horizon]

NOOOOOOO

[daring nexus]

I think it might be the second best staff now

[idle bay]

It's sad that i can't do my review even more negative on Steam

[austere estuary]

the cross-weapon blessing active removal is a huge reduction in ability to makeand mess with builds centred around a blessing or blessing combo

[idle bay]

Kinetic Deflection

[lucid horizon]

why they do that to us, we suck dick

[austere estuary]

how though, void actually got stronger overall due to quietude now working with transfer peril, and still has good blessing synergy

like I love trauma but

[leaden pier]

at least block isnt broken with 0 stamina and kinetic deflection

[idle bay]

They are being lore accurate and bullying psykers making them suffer more ^)

[hexed ibex]

People gonna start daemonhosting in here soon

[magic burrow]

one of the devs probably tried to dodge dance a daemonhost, got rekt, and then saw a psyker tank it while he was waiting to respawn

[lucid horizon]

just kill me then

fatshark "im a villian, not a Monster"

[leaden pier]

is the peril gain for trauma decent now? or same

[idle bay]

They just bunch of tired devs leaded by not very competent people.

[magic burrow]

Ive yet to find a void staff with transfer peril on it. Seems like every decent rolled staff I find always ends up with the fear blessing for some reason.

[austere estuary]

at 80% you only build like half the total, 25% now instead of 45% - but it's still irrelevant

[idle bay]

I mean crafting, progression, mission selection - how bad you need to be at game design to do this while having brilliant Vermintide 2

[austere estuary]

since most of the time you'll be at 100 and only spending 13-14 peril max by casting from 85 or so

[hexed ibex]

Remember when Conflag was broken on Sienna and you could like infinite CC a stack of rats

[daring nexus]

I’ve played a lot of games with it today and was just tearing through everything in front of me with it. Killing dozens of pox walkers at a time with it and putting everything else on its ass so my team can just execute them. I felt like I was really controlling the battle

[austere estuary]

the bar is useful though

[lucid horizon]

u are right

[austere estuary]

Trauma wasn't buffed in damage though - or are you talking about void?

[summer prairie]

Looking at the code, they pretty much went through every weapon perk/blessing and changed the stat_buffs to be conditional_stat_buffs which properly respects is_item_slot_wielded

also why FS deflector can't block during revive

[manic needle]

Did VOidstrike actually get a damage buff? I didnt notice during my brief foray into the meat grinder.

[austere estuary]

someone said aoe on trauma was buffed, but at least at 80% blast area it's the same

like literally identical or close to

warp flurry aparrently works tho

[daring nexus]

The damage wasn’t buffed but it already has solid hoard killing power and now you can just put 4 blast into a hoard and rip it to shreds

[summer prairie]

it's possible that my previous trauma testing was inadequate. I seem to recall not killing doing full damage to everything within the visible AoE

[hexed ibex]

So they applied a blanket solution when for all we know some of them were deliberately left that way

[austere estuary]

what do you mean?

what's new there?

[fierce sinew]

Does AB still proc on anything that dies with soulblaze on it? I ask because at least one AB trigger change is mentioned so that code may have changed

[austere estuary]

I main trauma but not seeing anything different about it in that regard

well, other tahn the damage nerf from executor not working on it

[summer prairie]

I was looking at the new AB code and was curious about that too but it does seem to still work even if you apply soulblaze and then melee the enemy

[austere estuary]

same damage, same aoe, less power available, same cast time

[fierce sinew]

[manic needle]

At least it's acknowledged as a bug. Hopefully they don't take a week or longer to fix it like with Surge strobe

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deflector-blessing-does-not-block-bullets-while-reviving-after-1-0-22-anymore/73978

[daring nexus]

The change to its peril generation just let you shoot it more and it lets you play the staff how it should have been the whole time

[austere estuary]

that's still not gonna be optimal

imo

still spending like 10% more peril per cast that way, and adding overall more quell time

and not benefitting from the quell momentum

[magic burrow]

I aint touching this game again until they show this class some love that doesnt involve pink handcuffs and a strapon

[austere estuary]

so you're ultimately spending more time reloading and casting fewer blasts

and those blasts are doing less damage because you're not getting that 15%

so fewer shots + lower damage per shot + more time not shooting

it'll have some niche helpfulness but overall not a meaningful gain

[clear heath]

they acknowledge a lot of shit that isn't really a bug though, so it's hard to tell if it means they'll actually do anything

[austere estuary]

what does help is the crosshair castbar to make sure you're maxing your charge

[clear heath]

acknowledged probably just means it got sent to the devs

[austere estuary]

instead of having to err on the side of caution sometimes

when going for casts finishing at 97+

[daring nexus]

I’m not sure how it got fewer casts, you just shoot 4 and quell instead of shooting 2 and quell

[steel flame]

What's wrong with the trauma staff now?

[river sand]

i've got a feeling that trauma might be meta now, at least its hella fun

[austere estuary]

so you get fewer casts in the same overall time period over the course of a fight, because you spend more time quelling due to generating more peril

[manic needle]

I very much doubt deflector not working when you're reviving is an intended change, considering you're supposed to use your block mechanics while revivnig

[steel flame]

I'd say being able to cast it more than twice in a row is pretty meaningful gain

[clear heath]

anyways, how's this working out for you guys? Is it useful at all now?

[clear heath]

ok but ogryn shield can't block bullets while reviving either, and fatshark works in mysterious ways

[austere estuary]

if you're casting twice and not walling at 100% - you're generating about twice as much peril

[daring nexus]

You generate the same amount of peril just got to 100 and vent

[austere estuary]

no, you don';t

[summer prairie]

What are you talking about

[worthy wedge]

wait what? did they increase the Trauma peril gain?

[summer prairie]

Not at all

[river sand]

no trauma is like 25% per cast now

[austere estuary]

when you quell from 100% down to 86% ish, 2 ticks, then cast, you can get a full charge cast off by 98%

[steel flame]

I'm confused. I getting 4 shots in a row out of trauma now. How is that a negative

[river sand]

it charges to full but the blow doesnt cost extra

[austere estuary]

this means your full charge and cast costs you 13-15% peril

and then you quell again, and again, only quell 2 ticks for 13-15% peril

and then full cast again for again, only 13-15%

[summer prairie]

what's your point

not even sure what you are trying to say

[rapid flicker]

too many numbers dawg

[tender sapphire]

if you want peril use the sword special

[austere estuary]

so each cast is 13-15% peril if you are walling

[steel flame]

I'm very confused what this is supposed to mean

[austere estuary]

if you are not hitting that wall, you are generating 25% peril per cast

[summer prairie]

So?

[austere estuary]

that is nearly twice the amount of peril gained

[daring nexus]

I’d rather just quell down to 0 and use quietude

[austere estuary]

I am responding to this

[steel flame]

How is that more than hitting 100 after two casts

[austere estuary]

name a fight you cast twice and stop

[valid lake]

so is kine deflection still the go too or what with the nerf, mind in motion is pointless and kine sheild was nerfed with the change awhile ago

[austere estuary]

hordes you are doing many tens of casts

hyou will hit 100% at 2 or at 4 casts

[steel flame]

What if I don't wanna use it twice and then not use it. What if I wanna play a ranged character longer than two casts?. I can actually spam the dam thing now

[austere estuary]

if you sit at the wall, you only generate 13-15% peril per full charge, if you have MAX warp res and cast from anything beneath that, you are generating nearly double the peril, and you will eventually have to quell that peril

is casting 4 spamming?

[steel flame]

I can spam half charge all day long

[austere estuary]

and again, if you cast 4, reload slowly, cast 4 - you are going to be casting fewer than casting and doing a faster reload and a cheaper shot

[steel flame]

Didn't used to be able two

[daring nexus]

I see what your saying but the thing is this is just kind of an awkward strategy because it doesn’t really leave you that much room to adjust to random shit happening. Often time you need to really quickly squeeze out two powers and this can make that difficult

[austere estuary]

at half charge it's the same - you can just quell for one fewer tick and then still benefit from free peril

it's less awkward because you are more available to cast - and kill and cc things - far more frequently

and you will need to quell quickly enough anyway

[steel flame]

I think I see what you are going for bit in practice it's a net gain for partial charging and full charge mid combat

[daring nexus]

Also quell time on a staff is laughably fast and just can be mixed into your play at any moment

[austere estuary]

even faster when you max out how it works

it's easier to do now too

a lot easier

there is a caveat though

[steel flame]

Ooook so if it's easier what's the issue?????

[austere estuary]

Like I said - the QoL is good

but the damage nerfs are real

[steel flame]

Fair enough

[daring nexus]

Didn’t they make the aoe bigger?

[clear heath]

what did they nerf about the damage?

[austere estuary]

not at 80%

executor and shred don't work is a big nerf for trauma

[clear heath]

oh that

[steel flame]

I always used it more for stagger and picking off fodder but I can understand the sentiment

[austere estuary]

20% power is massive in particular

more than the crit actually by a long ways

crit without 20% power on trauma hits weaker than no crit at 20%

[steel flame]

I'm keen to try the soulblaze on trauma when and if this garbage bin of a store decides to do it's dam job

[austere estuary]

since trauma has poor crit strength on secondary

but yeah the AoE at 80% is either identical to before or extremely close to (like cm differences)

before patch, the two distant dudes in the strong trash group could be tagged at the edges of the aoe

same now

[daring nexus]

It seems pretty large. I tested it in the grinder and it was hitting guys that were outside the effect

[steel flame]

Ascendent blaze might even be decent on trauma

[austere estuary]

it always hit outside the effect for the low damage

ascendant blaze should still be trash on trauma - stacks are weak at low count, and without shred, max crit you can get would be 30% on it

using warp nexus, casting at 97+ peril

[summer prairie]

the only way you would use AB with trauma is by first ulting with no stacks and then killing the trash for more charges

[rapid flicker]

harvest feat too?

[austere estuary]

each cast at 1.3 seconds with 30% chance to crit, you'd average 1 crit every 3.9s... and that would tick for 1 or 2 damage

[steel flame]

Of course

[austere estuary]

so

yeah

if you spammed out low charge ones, it would be slightly less trash but still trash and you'd be better using void at that point for it

[rapid flicker]

does harvest work with any warp kill? or just bb procs

i can’t remember

[gilded viper]

So how much better is trauma and voidstrike peril cost now?

[rapid flicker]

25 per cast

4 casts

per vent

[austere estuary]

it's better on trauma, 25% vs 45%, but irrelevant really unless you want to do a lot lower damage and clear less in more time

but

it might be relevant with warp flurry

[summer prairie]

is the safe cast threshold at high peril the same then

[austere estuary]

same yeah, 99% or lower

for trauma I mean

BB still 97%

[gilded viper]

I imagine with some peril resistance is also adds up, Warp Battery build with Trauma maybe?

[summer prairie]

but wouldn't you hit 99% faster when charging with the previous rate

felt safer to me

[austere estuary]

I mean I cast at full peril all the time anyway, it's a lot faster and less downtime

[summer prairie]

you don't cast at 100%

[austere estuary]

you mean starting the cast?

[summer prairie]

previously when you started charging at e.g. 82%, you would get to 99% or whatever faster before full charging

[rapid flicker]

cast at like 94

[austere estuary]

starting cast is not relevant for safety on trauma, just when you click the actual thing

[summer prairie]

yes

but you wouldn't be at full charge then

[rapid flicker]

true

[austere estuary]

Full charge is 86%

[rapid flicker]

charge rate stat?

on staff

[summer prairie]

if you build up peril faster, you get to unsafe threshold before fully charging

[rapid flicker]

does that matter

[austere estuary]

unsafe threshold is literally "100%"

[summer prairie]

so?

[austere estuary]

it's not like BB

[summer prairie]

your peril goes up faster

then your charge won't be complete

[austere estuary]

faster than what?

[summer prairie]

than if peril goes up slower

[rapid flicker]

so whats the minimum you can cast at to get a full charge with that staff

[summer prairie]

if trauma generates 1% peril, would it still be as bad as when it generated 40%

[austere estuary]

86%

[summer prairie]

since you seem to be saying it doesn't matter whether it genreates 25% or 40%

[austere estuary]

yes, because at full charge we only spend about 14%

[rapid flicker]

i think it makes a little difference

more fire power in general

more casts in succession

[austere estuary]

lower firepower, we can't get executor for power on it anymore, which was a big buff for trauma

[summer prairie]

yeah no one used that, it was a nerf for you

[rapid flicker]

i don’t use trauma so

[summer prairie]

oh wait, did they only reduce the peril that is generated when you release the attack, then it makes sense

[austere estuary]

yes

[summer prairie]

now I get you

[idle bay]

To my surprise there are only two reddit posts about psyker nerfs

[austere estuary]

that's why I said flurry might make that useful

but outside of that it's kinda meaningless

[summer prairie]

you definitely don't get full flurry stacks no matter what you do, but you do get some minor benefit

[austere estuary]

at t4 and t3 it's very strong at 1 stack only

less so on trauma than void

like on void at 80% warp flurry 1 stack is better than being at 100% even

but on trauma it'd be closer to like... going from 80 bar to maybe 85-87 ish bar

[idle bay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10l93ru/kinetic_deflection_after_1022_bugged/

[summer prairie]

toughness_regen_rate_modifier = 1.2 <-- t4 curio

[austere estuary]

yeah they buffed that, happy about that

[idle bay]

Some more bugs with Deflector besides revive bug?

[austere estuary]

since I have 3 20% curios of it

[summer prairie]

also modifiers stack additively, so it really ends up being 60% total

[cyan portal]

is that coherency regen or all regen?

[austere estuary]

even if it's just coherency it's a fat upgrade, but hard to test

[cyan portal]

like, does it work on quietitude

[summer prairie]

it should only be coherency

[austere estuary]

before it was noticeable for me just in the delay time reduction

so having both is gonna be nice

[remote void]

does not work with quietitude and they nerfed quietude now is flat 5% before it took into account the total toughness

[austere estuary]

this is a pretty miserable bug

[austere estuary]

oh what

wow

that's a nasty ass nerf

did they fix the tooltip to say 5 and not 5% at least?

[summer prairie]

I'm not seeing this nerf

[cyan portal]

How do you mean?

[remote void]

no still says 5%

[austere estuary]

ngl this is a pretty nasty patch for psykers

[red cedar]

Ogryn player wants to know why fatshark hates you guys so much.

[clear heath]

wtf

[summer prairie]

have you verified this or just something you read?

[austere estuary]

welp, glad I got this now

hopefully it gets deflector

[remote void]

before the patch quietude was recovering more than 5% per 10% peril quelled, it was taking into account the total toughness so if i had 150 toughness it would recover 5% of that total instead of flat 5% of the base tougness

[austere estuary]

well, it was 5% of your toughness, which tbh is what I expected from it

since it said 5% and not 5

sad they decided to nerf that

[clear heath]

is that not how it was supposed to work?
5% of toughness should be 5% of toughness

[austere estuary]

hardly as though quietude was op

[austere estuary]

exactly, now it's both weaker AND not accurate to the tooltip

[summer prairie]

I'm not seeing any changes to psyker_biomancer_toughness_on_vent code

[austere estuary]

oh, unless?

[manic needle]

Best I can do is T1 Exorcist

[silk verge]

is that a staff which i should upgrade? and what else should i roll for instead of the 20% dmg ?

[worthy wedge]

Yeah if they nerfed it, it was not intentional. It's not listed on the patch notes.

[austere estuary]

I will post it when I have the plasteel

[frank talon]

Roll for bratwurst und bier

[remote void]

maybe it was bugged and they fixed something that affected it

[clear heath]

So how did you test this anyways?

[austere estuary]

man, sitting and choosing melee weapon and realising it really has little impact now

without the crossover stuff

sucky

[manic needle]

Yeah it's a bad change tbh

The devs are actually Malice chumps though so it isnt surprising

[clear heath]

the only quietude change i could think of is the fact that they made transfer peril work with it. maybe something to do with that?

[austere estuary]

peril transfer working with quietude is a nice buff

though funny if they've just taken with the other hand

[summer prairie]

yes, if it does not work, it must be a bug related to the transfer peril fix. The actual feat code wasn't touched

[remote void]

i use full toughness curio so my base right now is around 149 so i tested it by simple taking damage getting away from my teammates and quelled using hands cause it quells slower than my staff, so before the patch i was recovering around 7 - 8 toughness per 10% quelled

not its flat 5 toughness

[austere estuary]

holy shit toughness speed now

[manic needle]

The devs love their Vets

[austere estuary]

I play with that peril based toughness damage reduction

and triple toughness + speed

[worthy wedge]

Do you have video of that? You can probalby submit it as a bug report or something.

[austere estuary]

so this is great for me

[summer prairie]

Peril block threshold was changed from 90% to 97% by the way

[manic needle]

I might go back and try that out, then just run a +3 stamina trinket with Deflector once they're fixed

[remote void]

sadly i dont have any video prof prior to this statement

but i would never have guested that the "%" is not total toughness current value

once again incorrect description

[cyan portal]

I wonder if any other class stuff giving back toughness has a similar change

[steel flame]

I just realized, now that AB won't randomly stop working, I might actually be Able to take 6 charges over auto bb and actually get soulblaze

[idle bay]

I hope that they fix few minor bugs that vets have, like they fixed KD 🙂

With a same quality of fixing 🙂 Spawning few more bugs

I'll enjoy playing the vet more then 🙂

[manic needle]

Won't ever happen, it is unironically the dev's pet class

Even the Power Sword nerfs were halfhearted at best

[idle bay]

Currently trying to fix my vets Curios.... dalamtine farming is such a drag....

[remote void]

i cant affirm for the other classes cause i main psyker only and i feel that they nerfed his overall sustainability with this patch

not by much but i can feel it

[steel flame]

They are just too weak-minded to go through with nerfing the taser sword they love so much

[frigid burrow]

Alright siblings haven't played since last weekend just saw patch notes how much cope are we on right now

[idle bay]

They still have not fixed really bad hit registration - that sometimes makes playing vet frustrating

[manic needle]

Moderate levels of copium intake

[frigid burrow]

I'm scared to log in and start a mission and just disintegrate instantly when a poxwalker hits me or something

[steel flame]

Im trying to distract myself from crying about not having the crafting system, with patch notes

[idle bay]

One shot-body shot dreg shooter on heresy in Meat Grinder - 3 shot-bodyshot dreg shooter in Malice sometimes, or 3 headshots because hits does not register properly

And the Pox Hound hit registration is the BEST in the game

[steel flame]

I kid you not I spawned into a mission, immediately got grabbed by a mutant which tossed Me directly into a pox walker which sent me over the railing and into the void. I cannot make this shit up

[idle bay]

And i love Pox Hound Interaction with Power Sword>

1. Push is ignored in 75% of time
2. Block blocks it pounce for some reason sometimes
3. Hitting it through the objects - works every time

[steel flame]

Push is ignored on every weapon 75% of the time

[edgy hearth]

How does the peril block feel with the recent changes now?

[steel flame]

It feels like peril block......

[idle bay]

Not on Antox MK V - works like a charm on Psyker to push the hound - preferably through the object

[worthy wedge]

You just can't cheese it infinitely, which was clearly not the intent.

[steel flame]

Non force weapons especially saber never really generated much to begin with so adding in more dodging still let's you vent perfectly fine

[idle bay]

Mutant once saved me from Peril explosion - when he grabbed me he stopped explosion animation and when he was done with me - my F was off cooldown 🙂

[edgy hearth]

Can you still cheese a demonhost?

[steel flame]

Noice

No

You cannot

[remote void]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[edgy hearth]

Sad, but that was mostly a meme that I enjoyed doing

Doesn't sound like for most other scenarios it's going to have a massive impact then

[manic needle]

Apparently it's pretty bad for people who dont use Force Sword

Blocking with Kinetic Deflection interrupts your passive quelling for several seconds, which negates a huge advantage for taking non-psyker melee weapons

[sonic aspen]

Is the peril on trauma decent now?

[austere estuary]

it's kinda meh

not entirely useless but mostly - 45% to 25% on max warp res full charge

still bouncing up and down from 100 in any serious encounter

[remote void]

terrifying barrage still bugged tho

[idle bay]

I was hoping for bigger radius and damage on Trauma, not just peril gain reduction

[austere estuary]

main thing is no way to crank more damage out

warp nexus is not terrible but crits on trauma secondary are a very small multiplier

[manic needle]

It seems like a lot of people who use Trauma staffs in pubs dont consistently spam it, so for that kind of usage its probably a bit better

But... thats not really a huge plus

[austere estuary]

I mean my force sword is seeing more use now

but that's becasue the trauma can't cut it as much

[steel flame]

More fs is never a bad thing

Special spam for dayz

[austere estuary]

imo the main problem for trauma was never peril, but how fast it can deal damage

[steel flame]

Yeah cast time still sucks

[austere estuary]

peril reduction that only applies when at really like... less than 75% peril is like

whatever

[steel flame]

Even short charge has a cast that gets cancelled be EVERYTHING

[austere estuary]

at 1s (0.9 with warp flurry) when we have 100% bar, that will help a lot

but that doesn't exist yet

[naive dawn]

is the web browser having issues for armory or is it myself?

[cloud heron]

yeah it needs updated

[worthy wedge]

Melk, please.

[boreal cave]

so deflect no longer works while rezzing

[grim magnet]

which is the best level 10 psyker feat? they all seem alright

[manic needle]

If youre running it on Firefox you can apply the update and it will work again

[ripe zinc]

its a noted bug

[manic needle]

Inner Tranquility is probably the most used, Wrack and Ruin is just awful

[grim magnet]

also, what actually qualifies as a 'warp attack'?

attacks with force weapons?

[ripe zinc]

i wanna say anything that generates peril

[lethal folio]

Force sword, smite, staff stuff that isnt lightning.

[austere estuary]

unless they patched it with this

[brave vale]

I just wanna say I called them nerfing kinetic deflection forever ago

despite them just shitting on psykers

[austere estuary]

brain burst benefits even from that 'non warp attacks' feat

[brave vale]

constantly

[austere estuary]

so you can bbx2 and second one will do a lot more

there's some very select few attacks taht don't benefit from it

[boreal cave]

honestly isnt that bad given stam curio is bugged still only granting +1

+3 will give u stuid block conversion anyhow

[placid stratus]

Idk about yall, but gun psyker kinda based

[boreal cave]

why not just play SS?

[placid stratus]

Cuz I need to do 100 missions as psyker

[boreal cave]

xD fair game

[placid stratus]

And I got absolutely sick of using staves

I need something to keep me sane

[boreal cave]

go void its basically a cannon just aim above the enemy instead of at them for free headshots

[placid stratus]

Refer to my previous statement

[boreal cave]

use r to animation cancel for faster shots

[maiden wolf]

Wrack and ruin would be competitive if it worked on any enemy AND applied 2-3x as many stacks.

[floral solstice]

oh nice the armory extension update lets me see all 4 of my characters now on android without switching to landscape

[placid stratus]

Fun times

Speaking of fun times

I done did it, fellas

[maiden wolf]

Oh?

[placid stratus]

I got the funny dangly

Just need to get the one for dropping 500 ammo packs and medkits

[vagrant cedar]

you'll have atleast 6months for that till the new( the content that was supposed to be already in the game) arrive

to finish it

plenty of time

[placid stratus]

While that is true

Consider the following lol

Actually, I lied, there's also this one I must get

[austere estuary]

toughness regen speed 60% really is busted now

[brittle crest]

which is the best dueling sword to pair with surg staff?

MK5? doesn't matter?

[vagrant cedar]

does it reduce the cooldown when it starts to regen or 60% more regen?

[austere estuary]

both

[ebon jolt]

I haven't played in a couple weeks but I stopped by to say R.I.P. Kinetic Deflection and that I feel for all of you.

[austere estuary]

used to just reduce cooldown

[vagrant cedar]

oh damn

surprising tbh

[cloud heron]

Deflector not working on res is hell

[ebon jolt]

Looks like Psyker did get a couple buffs out of it though? So while reading it feel depressing maybe it will work out in the end?...

[clear heath]

coherency regen with toughness regen speed feels so much faster than i thought it would be

[vagrant cedar]

i used to wonder if it actually works

usd to count seconds how much it would regen lol

[clear heath]

now it's fast enough to make me wonder if 20% actually means 80%

probably just imagining it but it feels super fast

[safe pendant]

Just imagine, there's people that have that done by now

[floral solstice]

my ogryn can finally have fun in pugs even with the baddie vets that die to shooters

[wet jacinth]

[clear heath]

what the fuck is this flickering?

can fatshark go 2 patches without trying to blind me?

[manic needle]

Looks GPU related

[clear heath]

It only started happening after the patch

also saw some other people complaining about it here

[manic needle]

Thats fun. Does playing around with graphics settings help in any way?

[clear heath]

idk, it's hard to tell if anything helps with it
it only sometimes happens

[manic needle]

😐

Well if it's a common glitch then Ill just add it to the long list of reasons I'm playing less and less lol

[clear heath]

I think it might only affect psyker? i'll try playing more on other classes

[steel egret]

Gotta swap some perks when I bother to start the game.

[floral solstice]

because clearly we needed more nerfs/"fixes"

im testing surge on meatgrinder

think im noticing extra lights too

but it's not bothering me yet

im on lowest graphic settings on everything to reduce crashes

[austere estuary]

60% toughness regen speed

it's crazy

and that's quietude, as you can see no peril loss there

that's just coherency

[manic needle]

Toughness trinkets with regen speed might actually be worth going for over health sometimes now

[austere estuary]

vs ranged and in coherency, we're silly tanky now

even before deflector

[manic needle]

Have you tested it with Kinetic Shield yet?

[austere estuary]

I already use that

[steel egret]

I have 3 17% with toughness regen.

[clear heath]

toughness regen speed is actually insane now

[austere estuary]

I thought it was working as intended before with just the delay reduce

which does make it very short

when quietude or something else stacks on top it's just... zziiiiiip

toughness go brr

[vagrant cedar]

lol

[austere estuary]

with trauma feeling a bit weaksauce now though kinda thinking of spending more time on purgatus

[vagrant cedar]

that must be a bug dude

it will be fixed

[steel egret]

I did also play long with only toughness curios.

[austere estuary]

what is bugged about it?

they had it in the patch notes

[vagrant cedar]

the speed of it

[austere estuary]

specifically taht

it's correct - base plus 60% of coherency should be that

[manic needle]

Join Voidstrike gang, We have cookies.

[austere estuary]

it's just that good now

[vagrant cedar]

you recovered 20 in a 1s

[austere estuary]

voidstrike is nice

yeah, esky - coherency regen at base is fast

60% bonus makes it turbo

[olive ember]

Didn’t they nerf voidstrike peril management or wte

[austere estuary]

yeah, though not sure by how much

[manic needle]

Not really, its a minor change

[austere estuary]

xfer peril still amazing

[fervent shore]

Not noticeable with 3% or above transfer peril imo

[gaunt stone]

is this good?

[manic needle]

Especially with high Transfer Peril it's not even noticable. Might be a buff now that quietude works lol

[fervent shore]

agreed lol

[austere estuary]

quietude + xfer void + 60% toughness regen

-> what toughness damage

[vagrant cedar]

very

[austere estuary]

kinetic shield also should play well with that

[gaunt stone]

is the blessing good?

[manic needle]

Yeah Im going to upgrade some Toughness trinkets for the next time I play

Fingers crossed for good rolls

[vagrant cedar]

everything good

[gaunt stone]

staff pairing?

[austere estuary]

I really badly want this to roll deflector now that slaughterer is basically hands down best thing for FS

[vagrant cedar]

i mean that's up to you which one you prefer

i always roll combat axe with purge

[clear heath]

bet it'll roll blazing spirit

[austere estuary]

yeah now crucian is dead I bet it will

[gaunt stone]

nah it will roll exorcist

[manic needle]

Personally I'm betting on Superiority

[gaunt stone]

what if it got precog

[olive ember]

Wonder how the knife zealots are takjsng it

[austere estuary]

calm down satan

[olive ember]

With crucian dead

[gaunt stone]

yeah precog would suck

LOL

[austere estuary]

well tbh knife gets what, 15 base, 5 from zealot, can knives roll shred?

[manic needle]

Actually yeah precog would be the worst I think

[clear heath]

knife zealot works without crucian anyways
it crits plenty

[gaunt stone]

yeah precog doesn't synergize with force sword

imo

[clear heath]

I can't remember what precog is

it was something on dodge right?

[gaunt stone]

dodge or weakspot dmg I think?

yeah force is about dumping special so it would be meh imo

[manic needle]

Weakspot + crit damage on dodge

[austere estuary]

man I really don't have any great voids

[gaunt stone]

so void change was about 5% on full charge? Was that the consensus?

[austere estuary]

mrrrehhh

[manic needle]

With my staff I hit about 20% peril on a charged attack

Before it was in the mid teens for me

[gaunt stone]

resist %?

[manic needle]

My staff is in pinned messages, bottom post

[gaunt stone]

65%

[austere estuary]

guess for now I go back to purg

[gaunt stone]

mmmm I mean the 5% diff is not a huge deal imo

I think it's justified

I always felt I had unlimited firepower with it

[manic needle]

All it means is that I have to hit one more enemy in order to quell peril with my staff tbh

[austere estuary]

wait

I just thought of a use for wrack and ruin

[gaunt stone]

shit are you gonna be okay?

[austere estuary]

like it doesn't actually need to be doing good damage right

since it doesn't need to do the killing blow

[manic needle]

IDK Ill try my best to cope with the extra quietude potential

[austere estuary]

but it actually pairs well with psyk aura aura

and with AB

freebie warp charges

[gaunt stone]

I forget they changed quietude a bit? Too lazy to open link again

[magic burrow]

would be nice if they made it apply soulblaze stacks equal to your current warp charges

[austere estuary]

yeah that'd be a great buff

[vagrant cedar]

Damn

that regen is nice now

there's a reason to stack toughness curious now

[austere estuary]

my trinks are

[gaunt stone]

you are asking for too much

calm down

[austere estuary]

17/17/16 toughness

with 4/4/0 toughness again

and then 20/20/20 regen

[manic needle]

Quietude now works with the Transfer Peril blessing

[gaunt stone]

that is godly imo

[austere estuary]

yeah it really is great

esp with how regen also buffed

[compact crane]

How good is my staff

[gaunt stone]

the voidstrike meta continues

[austere estuary]

absolutely sick

delete carapace

take 5% crit

enjoy

[manic needle]

Unyielding Carapace -> crit and almost perfect

Err sorry

[compact crane]

First 380 base weapon I found. Haven't rerolled anything yet

[manic needle]

\carapace

brain fart

[gaunt stone]

imagine if warpflurry worked

[austere estuary]

it's really great seraph

you should be mega pleased

[austere estuary]

they fixed it for trauma

did they not fix it on surge?

[compact crane]

I am! It's a monster

[gaunt stone]

its broken on surge

still

[magic burrow]

that's the first time Ive seen a purge staff with 17 damage. I thought 16 was max

[austere estuary]

still? wow

[gaunt stone]

this is why I was in tears

my baby is dead

[austere estuary]

weird tehy'd fix it with trauma but not surge

figured it was basically the same problem

[wise pecan]

Fixed issue where ‘Kinetic Deflection’ did not pause passive quelling, resulting in being able to tank some enemies indefinitely.
Psykers weeping

[gaunt stone]

I also have this one too

pls fix warp fatshark

pls

[austere estuary]

like I use FS anyway mostly so it didn't affect me much, but damn what a pointless nerf imo

[manic needle]

I have max rank Flurry on my Surge staff and I want to commit die

[gaunt stone]

let's do it together

[austere estuary]

my best trauma by far has xfer peril 🙂

and rending shockwave

🙂 🙂 🙂

[manic needle]

I still wish I could trade items to people, I have an orange Voidstrike with decent stats and max rank Transfer Peril that I got from an Emperor's Gift - worse than my current one since the second blessing is Run 'n' Gun, but still really good.

Itll rot in my inventory forever

Or until I sell it

[gaunt stone]

imagine if this was realistic

where I could just hand you something

[wise pecan]

Fixed issue where ‘Kinetic Overload’ could target a Daemonhost that wasn’t active.
I knew it! I thought kinetic overload could aggro daemonhosts!

[manic needle]

Being able to hand people items goes against the theme of 40k and would be immeasurably complex to implement

[gaunt stone]

I feel like my void staffs are lacking

[manic needle]

Post up your best ones

[tropic pollen]

anything new happen with Trauma besides the charge meter getting added?

[gaunt stone]

I did extremely well on surge staff but not voids

[manic needle]

Top one is pretty hot stuff

[gaunt stone]

baby blast and quel

:c

[manic needle]

Blast is worthless mostly tbh

[gaunt stone]

wait a minute

we had this conversation

[manic needle]

It only affects the explosion that occurs when the projectile stops piercing enemies

It does next to no damage and the stagger isnt really worthwhile. You can just stagger enemies with the projectile and be much more efficient

[compact cargo]

You guys did

[gaunt stone]

so what I am hearing is roll it orange

and cross my fingers

[manic needle]

Yeah although even without a good second blessing the staff is still worth using

[gaunt stone]

I guess if it get that staff going I need to focus on a good purg

I only have a 66% burn with warp

I think ideal is crit nexus

[lethal folio]

Purgatus is one of the few weapons I want run and gun on.

[gaunt stone]

I mean I don't see the point

[manic needle]

Like the extra mobility while spamming LMB, eh?

[gaunt stone]

yeah purg is just oh a horde point and shoot in direction

don't need to move really

[lethal folio]

More importantly, dodging ranged fire with sprint and slide.

[gaunt stone]

deflector

[austere estuary]

just had a super depressing run, team just did NOT want to move forwards

instead sitting back up a ledge, went through 2 and a half full hordes before they moved at all

[gaunt stone]

imo purg staff is good with a solid dueling sword or deflector warp

dueling sword can make you go zoom

also anyone else notice the dueling sword dodge is insane

[austere estuary]

well it's nearly always going to be 15%

due to def+mob+base of 5

hard not to cap it

[unique geode]

the Mk V dueling sword specifically has two different bars that add dodge distance

[manic needle]

Opinions on these swords?

I imagine High defense > High mobility as long as you hit the dodge cap

[floral solstice]

right one for me

[manic needle]

Yeah Riposte is kinda shit, stamina is kinda good and overall I think I like the stats better, with only a 3% difference in finesse

[floral solstice]

also easier to use uncanny with mk 5's heavies

you can headshot muties from the back sometimes

[manic needle]

Wew lad

[gaunt stone]

right for me too

[manic needle]

It's kind of a shame that I got these right before the deflector nerf tbh

Ill still give them a try though

[gaunt stone]

have you used the sword yet?

[floral solstice]

im actually switching to mk v dueling now after deflection nerf, with purgatus at least

[manic needle]

Only while leveling, when I was trying all kinds of weapons and fell in love with Antax over any mk. of sword

[floral solstice]

gonna rely more on dodges to reposition

[wheat quartz]

deflection got nerfed?

[gaunt stone]

bruh the run speed and dodge on dueling is amazzingg

lol

[wheat quartz]

Oh huh there's a patch

[hexed ibex]

Mk5 is a nice head taker as well

[manic needle]

Sure, but Psyker meme axe is what it is

[gaunt stone]

combat axe?

[manic needle]

Yeah Mk. 5 Antax

[gaunt stone]

what about it?

I tried combat axes I don't like them

[manic needle]

You can infintely spam the counterattack and melt hordes effortlessly

[floral solstice]

yep just tested it again, you can hit muties with headshots from the back with mk v heavies as long as you're close enough

which should be easy when the muties crashes to a wall

[fresh reef]

any t5 players here use chainsword?

[floral solstice]

hello jello, yes mk v do be spicy

[gaunt stone]

I see my play style is different probably explains why I never tried it. I end up defaulting to purg on higher difficulties and use my sword for specials etc.

[frank talon]

Really hope I don't get screwed on blessings, don't have any diamantine to roll this badboy right now

[gaunt stone]

you are already screwed

warp is bugged

😄

[frank talon]

For now

[floral solstice]

ehh, your staff's fine

[gaunt stone]

hopefully they get it fixed in the next 2 weeks

[frank talon]

Aye

[floral solstice]

bruh i've been refining curios for 45minutes now

hope they fix this refining crap next week and just let us choose the perk

[fierce sinew]

I just had my shout take me from 100 to 75 peril

[gaunt stone]

???

[fierce sinew]

did something change about how the ability works?

[gaunt stone]

nope

[fierce sinew]

antax in hand, started a revive right after

does reviving stop quell now?

[floral solstice]

are you using kinetic deflection?

[fierce sinew]

yes

I don't think I was hit though

holding block at all stops quell, even if nothing is hitting you?

[floral solstice]

yeah apprently, it pauses passive quell

havent seen it for myself though i just woke up

[cloud heron]

I'm actually in the meat grinder right now and holding block isn't interrupting quell

[fierce sinew]

didn't realize ability quell was passive

[floral solstice]

maybe when you actually block an attack?

[fierce sinew]

I wasn't recording but I'm like 90% sure I wasn't blocking an attack because I had just shouted down everyone in range

[floral solstice]

im shouting at 100 rn in meatgrinder and it still reduces 50

[cloud heron]

deflector not working while ressing is the real blow from this patch for me

even if it is a bug

[fierce sinew]

maybe this is related to that?

maybe rez is just fucked up now

somehow

[manic needle]

Needs more testing but if they borked Psyker's core ability it wouldnt surprise me tbh

[fierce sinew]

is it the normal or advanced training where you revive the bot

I'm going to see if I can recreate it

[lethal folio]

anybody else having smite cost double peril?

[wet jacinth]

Core ability but it was more an exploit a lot of people took for granted

[cloud heron]

Am I dumb? What is smite?

[lethal folio]

brain burst

[fierce sinew]

not really an exploit, nowhere in the kinetic deflection tooltip does it say anything about passive quelling being paused

[manic needle]

We're talking about Psykinetic's Wrath possibly not quelling down to 50% peril

[fierce sinew]

let alone ability quelling

[manic needle]

Or at least, thats what my post was in response to

[fierce sinew]

yeah

using shout to create space and peril to revive with is the most common use case in the world

[austere estuary]

gotta giggle though

fatshark really looked at psyker and thought

yeah we need to nerf this guy

[manic needle]

Psykers having a unique niche, in MY game?! Absolutely not!

Oh well at least we have toughness regen and actual BB targeting now

[austere estuary]

what changed with BB targeting? I didn't notice anything immediately in a couple runs

[wet jacinth]

Easier

[austere estuary]

ah

[manic needle]

Supposedly better elite priority targeting

[floral solstice]

yeah nerf us, we're so strong that we don't even need ammo

[austere estuary]

maybe targeting cone pierces better

[frank hazel]

It works better through railings/fences etc too apparently.

[wet jacinth]

I'm assuming it just prioritizes them over smalls near where your aiming

[fierce sinew]

LMAO you don't have a melee weapon equipped during the rez tutorial

I can't test

nice game

[austere estuary]

I read about the railings and fences, that was good to hear

[fierce sinew]

they literally take the claw sword you were just holding away from you

[manic needle]

Well hey you could always start a single player ga- oh....

[austere estuary]

it would already prio non schmucks to some degree so it's good if they've improved it

[fierce sinew]

[wet jacinth]

Get a stranger and test it ingame

Or friend

If you have them

[fierce sinew]

my friends are all normies, they're at work

[floral solstice]

or just solo queue and start with bots

[wet jacinth]

I just got out of work ironically

[hoary copper]

bruh

[fierce sinew]

same

[wet jacinth]

[manic needle]

That plus targeting through railings is a huge relief

And fences

Not being able to BB through things you can shoot through and see through was so goddamn stupid

[wet jacinth]

Imean. It was needlessly powerful with infinite block

[fierce sinew]

I'm bothered by the temerity of calling it an issue rather than a nerf as much as the nerf itself

[warm meteor]

Lame

[fierce sinew]

it was better than you thought so you nerfed it, own your decision cowards

[brisk plume]

We didn’t have much more going for us anyways.

[supple skiff]

any word on whether deflector blessing no longer blocking ranged while rezzing was intended?

[fierce sinew]

I'm aware I'm being petty, I'll have dinner and stop

[boreal cave]

its done nothing useful for this, couldnt BB past a hand rail....

[manic needle]

Its acknowledged as a bug, who knows if/when theyll fix it

[wet jacinth]

Meanwhile crucian roulette users crying they dont have their high crit anymore

[fierce sinew]

I thought the blessing effects persisting was interesting emergent gameplay and could have stayed, but at least that stuff is plausibly unintended

[wet jacinth]

I get it for specific blessings

[hexed ibex]

Ogryn are the only winners this patch

[manic needle]

Veterans too with Toughness Regen + Power Sword activations while blocking

[lethal folio]

A blessing that encourages you to ignore one of your weapon slots is not good design.

[hexed ibex]

You don't ignore it you keep one in the chamber for snapping snipers

[manic needle]

Hah, well they already have penances around it so why not?

[lethal folio]

Those penances are not good design either.

[manic needle]

Might as well keep the terrible design consistent at least

[supple skiff]

fix something that works in our favour, break somthing in the process which makes us worse

can't have shit in terium

[hoary copper]

havent played it but it seems you'll have to switch weapons just to quell

lol

[boreal cave]

if we had a game where we are orks instead of crap perium we would just believe its fixed and it would be

[supple skiff]

Not having access to slaughterer empowered BB unironically tilted the fuck out of me

[hexed ibex]

You couldn't block bullets with it so I considered the KD duelling sword not really that out of whack

[hoary copper]

well it was something special going for psykers

[boreal cave]

i agree using blessings to power up was great, id like it if instead of removing it they made it linger for 10 seconds to encourage weapon swaps and using both

[manic needle]

Play as Chaos and any glitches in your favor are just the warp gods' blessings

[supple skiff]

next up they'll nerf our stam regen to fuck over antax push block

[boreal cave]

the warp god have been deciding dogs should fly vertical lately

[fierce sinew]

and there are still people pretending that "buff/nerf" and "bugfix" are meaningful gameplay distinctions, with a developer like fatshark of all things

laughable

[hoary copper]

https://tenor.com/view/bellebows-happy-dog-dog-happy-gif-26293771

[long wharf]

save this shit for #veteran-class

[austere estuary]

like it's not complicated for things to be both, either, one or the other

er, both, neither, or one or the other

[austere estuary]

tbf that's literally only crucian

[long wharf]

pretending that the developer matters when discussing buffs/nerfs and bugfixes is laughable

[glad glade]

Yo guys, do you think it's worth the price?

[austere estuary]

yeah

I'd grab it

[supple skiff]

holy fuck

[austere estuary]

very nice

[manic needle]

Deflector/slaughterer is goated

[supple skiff]

not even a question

[long wharf]

congrats

[glad glade]

Nice! Thanks ❤️

[supple skiff]

you know that you just flexing lmao

gratz tho

[glad glade]

Well to be honest, I dont have much experience as a psyker - the game is just mocking me. never had one good melk-shop item since release for my main

[supple skiff]

as far as force swords go

it really doesn't get better

[bright raft]

Hello smart men, anyhting I can do to improve this ?

[boreal cave]

so does the toughness regen perk increase toughness gained from perks?

[manic needle]

Not until they finish the crafting system

Eventually you can switch out Unstable Power for something better like Slaughterer or Bloodthirster

[bright raft]

tanks!

does slaughterer work on staff too?

[manic needle]

No all blessings carrying over to other weapons was removed

[bright raft]

ty ❤️ much appreciated for the help.

[wet jacinth]

I did warn some people to not rely on blessings working on other weapons

but enjoy it while it lasts

[vagrant cedar]

expect nothign works in this game, hope it might do

words of wisdom lmfaooo

[north cradle]

Envious

[supple skiff]

would have been nice if the wording of the blessings was reflective of the design philosophy behind it. Deflector states "this weapon", slaughterer words itself in a way that isn't limiting. In my opinion it was fair game to assume something like slaughterer having 2 seconds of global buff wasn't unintended

could have easily said "gain 12% power with this weapon on kill for 2 seconds"

[vagrant cedar]

you say that like it' a game made by people who game

[manic needle]

Or speak english fluently

[supple skiff]

meanwhile my dumbass spend a decent amount of time in the grinder testing BB with slaughterer stacks to see if it hit breakpoints

[vagrant cedar]

you shouldn't test those most of this shit, it should be user-friendly

[manic needle]

I really feel like a lot of this game's descriptions being off are because the person writing them isnt as fluent in the language as they could be

[vagrant cedar]

i feel like it's a dev who coded this all, done the descriptions that make sense to him, based on values and shit

but it's not clear to end-users

at all

it's not translated properly at all

[manic needle]

It does feel like someone's personal notes at times.

[proud hinge]

is this 380 axe worth it?

[austere estuary]

lmao yes

380 with brutal and decimator

fantastic

[manic needle]

Always buy 380's

[proud hinge]

Sweet, I have 23 hours to rack up enough currency for it 🤣

[vagrant cedar]

i wouldn't grind it

unless you got like a really shitty one atm

and this would be a game changer for you

[proud hinge]

This is my current weapon

[supple skiff]

with what I was testing I wouldn't expect it to be laid out bare for players cause it is sort of a niche interaction

behold, the bare amount of slack I afford them lol

[austere estuary]

I enjoy testing out mechanic interactions in games, but it would help if the descriptions were at least accurate in the minimal sense at least

[supple skiff]

worst part it slaughterer totally did effect break points on BB

[austere estuary]

when they're contradictory or start using the same terms to mean different things

executor did too

big time

even all or nothing did

5% power + 6 charges was enough to change bulwark from 3->2

[supple skiff]

can we call poor blessing descriptions a "communications issue" ?

it all really does come full circle, doesn't it

[rough egret]

is the max toughness perk on a curios 4 or 5%?

[brittle crest]

what staff do y'all think is better to take into pugs, getting into t4 and hopefully t5?

• surge - high cc, but you have to rely on your team to handle hordes
• purge - great horde clear, but then you have to rely on your team to clear armored specials/elites

Melee for both would be a MK5 axe with BM

[austere estuary]

5

17 on the base roll

[rough egret]

Ok ty

[austere estuary]

health is 5 on perk, 21 max base roll

[austere estuary]

I mean either way you're kind of relying on your team, but with purg you still can somewhat cover with BB in a pinch

but either is gonna be a diceroll

[manic needle]

Voidstrike

[austere estuary]

not sure if just unlucky today or something diff, but after patch playing quickmatch on heresy nearly every game is a wipe

[brittle crest]

i lowkey love using voidstrike lol, i used it all throughout lvling

[austere estuary]

pre patch wipe was v rare on heresy

[manic needle]

Get yourself Transfer peril, run quietude with some toughness regen trinkets. It's looking like this is going to be a strong combo after the patch

[supple skiff]

Void is my vote as well

whats the deal with the toughness regen?

does that effect the regen on those perks now?

[vagrant cedar]

Purge and Combat Axe

[vagrant cedar]

coherency cooldown to regen and the amount

it goes from 0 to a 100 in like few seconds

[supple skiff]

hmm, may have to take a look at that then

been running just flat health for a while, worked well enough

[vagrant cedar]

same + 1 wound

now toughness curious might actually be useful

[supple skiff]

yeah, with some wounds

I'd prefer to stack toughness if melee bleed through wasn't a thing but it is so

[vagrant cedar]

well

when you think about it

more toughness

higher % when you get damaged

so the higher % of health dmg absorbed

especially if you're getting swarmed

you'd need a math wizard to calculate if it's actually worth it but i imagine you might add an extra few hits with higher toughness vs health

possibly

[supple skiff]

I think the various forms of damage that have a multipleir vs toughness might throw a wrench in that

going to give it another go though

I sort of found a benefit to having a lower toughness as you could get to 100% faster vs with a higher value, and therefore get back to blocking melee again

[onyx sentinel]

Aligned Equinox Mk III Trauma Force Staff and Equinox Mk IV Voidstrike Force Staff Peril costs to be more in line with each other.

Is this a buff to Trauma or nerf to Voidstrike?

[devout axle]

Both

[onyx sentinel]

So they reduce trauma's charge cost and increased void's?

[devout axle]

Void now costs about 15%, up from 6% fully charged, and Trauma costs 25% fully charged, down from 40%

[onyx sentinel]

lmao

I guess even less of a reason to bring void to damnation

[cloud heron]

void had one thing going for it and they wanted to take it away

[onyx sentinel]

glad I asked before reinstalling

[supple skiff]

me a psyker main using a void staff and FS with deflector and slaughterer

ask me how my day is going

[cloud heron]

How's your day going?

[supple skiff]

[true shadow]

in summary

the weakest class got weaker

for no particular reason whatsoever

[cloud heron]

targeting BB through railings though

unironically great

[true shadow]

and a few nice things were given back

[devout axle]

Problem with Void was that it was -TOO- spammable. It's right click had the same cost as its left click, and the fact that its an AoE, pierces, and can get the blessing that refunds peril on weakspot kills meant that its right click had basically no cost, while its left click still did.

[true shadow]

but not enough to offset the damage

like breaking deflector

[manic needle]

It's a buff to both Trauma and Voidstrike tbh

[supple skiff]

took us 2 months just to be able to do the most basic shit every other ranged weapon does with our class special

[cloud heron]

and even with being basically free, it still wasn't exactly dominating the meta

[true shadow]

uh idk if you used vs but it didn't have high pierce on uncharged alternate

[manic needle]

Voidstrike Transfer Peril now works with Quietude -> produces just slightly more peril after the patch -> more toughness generation

[devout axle]

Its ability to pierce through an entire horde wasn't enough for you? lol

[broken quail]

Just noticed my ability icon flickering in psykhanium, no peril, no warpcharge, no screen effects. Just a flickering ability icon

[true shadow]

.. uncharged spam right click doesn't pierce hordes

half charge does

[cloud heron]

I mean, no. It wasn't.

[true shadow]

but uncharged no lol

[cloud heron]

void wasn't anything close to problematic

[true shadow]

please actually use the weapon before pulling arguments out of thin air

[manic needle]

It's not any less spamable with max rank Transfer peril btw. At least not significantly less

[devout axle]

I have 300 hours in the game, probably around 270 of those are on Psyker and frequently use swap between every staff to keep some variety.

[true shadow]

i have 475 your point?

[fierce sinew]

this, they basically gated the normal function of the weapon behind the rng loot grind they know everyone loves

brilliantly done

[magic burrow]

oh man if you think voidstrike is problematic you should take a peek and compare its damage to a plasmagun, and the plasmagun is considered one of the undertuned vet guns

[shadow onyx]

says who?

[manic needle]

Actually getting a good weapon doesnt feel like a treat, youre just relieved that youre less of an Armoury slave

[shadow onyx]

top tier vet gun

[true shadow]

please use the void strike on heresy versus a horde and fire a single uncharged rmb

[devout axle]

My point is that you are using the arguement "actually use a weapon before making statements" which is factually incorrect.

[true shadow]

record it

[cloud heron]

No way

[shadow onyx]

os anything in t5, but sure def worthless like headhunters or revolver

[true shadow]

and ill do the same when im home

because voidstrike does not pierce an entire horde uncharged

[devout axle]

It takes a fraction of a second to reach half charge. Are you actually just mashing left click like you are using the surge exploit?

Because uh ... Void isn't Surge.

[true shadow]

void isn't surge and it takes more than half a second but ok

[long wharf]

charged void shots pierce all enemies until this hit either something armored or level

[cloud heron]

It doesnt have the throughput

[shadow onyx]

wdym

[wheat kraken]

siblings... I can die happy

[true shadow]

hence the word UNCHARGED

[sacred field]

1 away from pick n mix, brain burst almost complete on a very distant gunner, vet shot it :<

[devout axle]

You are using the staff wrong, and trying to say that it doesn't do what it DOES do.

[cloud heron]

Like it doesnt deliver its high enough damage consistently enough over a period of time

[true shadow]

idk what to tell you if you think the charged rnb is free

i will record something when im homr