I dont know the total cost to reach free status for Orange items, but it's not too bad
#psyker-class
gilded cloud
cloud heron
It doesn't have enough burn for max stacks anyway
My psyker's gun collection is so much better than my veteran's. Drives me absolutely insane
regal musk
It doesn't have enough burn for max stacks anyway
It also happens to be a fair bit better than my current one ... So its still painful to be shown something that is mechanically impossible to acquire.
cloud heron
Shop is a cruel mistress. It took me ~250 hours to get a good purge staff
vagrant cedar
time well spent
regal musk
Gotta love it. Load into a fresh Heresy run, Veteren demands "Are you an idiot?!" and then proceeds to AFK 100 meters behind the team on every horde.
shy crag
When it says "repeated" weak spot hits, would that essentially mean it would be pretty useless if im mainly one-shotting dregs and stuff? only really proc versus tougher targets? So it would have a lot less of a benefit than I'd imagine it.
pretty sweet sword to find via hadron tho
whatcha reckon folks
cloud heron
it's good, could be better
honestly not sure how exorcist works on force sword but peril isn't usually a concern for it
shy crag
well like, id usually swap to melee when im maxed out on peril on the spot
so lowering my peril via that blessing would be a really nice bonus
would shorten the time to get back on the staff, without having to manually quell
kinda off setting one of the main drawbacks of using force sword usually
cloud heron
well then the unarmored perk is probably a synergy for that then
shy crag
im just a little confused about how that exorcist blessing kinda works, if it needs repeated weak spot hits on the same enemy, or if i can kinda headshot-instakill one dreg after another and it procs each time, would be very useful then. Yet I already have some really nice force words and ideally I'd like to save up my currency for the possibility it might be useful when enhanced crafting eventually arrives
remote void
im just a little confused about how that exorcist blessing kinda works, if it ne...
with the force sword u will only hit kill the 1 enemy hit, cause he receives the full attack the rest doesn't and thats when the exorcist activates as long as u hit the guy weakspot and then hit only in the weakspots non stop it will proc, the problem with "repeat" attacks condition for this particular weapon is that the 2 hit in the light attack combo is a armpit attack it will 99% of the time hit the armpit of the enemy unless u drag ur mouse to the upper right while doing the combo but that impractical cause motion, it does work there was once a time i cleared like 60% perril in 2 secs while hitting a cluster of enemies using the heavy attack
i just wish they change the 2 hit in the light attack combo to be a horizontal left to right attack so that i can hit heads
manic needle
I dont think there's a time limit on the buff from Shred so that's at least marginally better than Limbsplitter + Headtaker lol
I feel like Limbsplitter isnt what you want on a Mk. 2, though?
I honestly dont have that much experience with it beyond trying it out in a couple games at mid level and not liking it much
shadow onyx
limbsplitter makes garbage any weapons
its like anti midas
everything that it touch transform into shit
manic needle
It's what a Psyker looks for on the Mk. 5 CAxe
but yeah trying it out again, the push attack on the Mk. 2 is garbage
Knocks enemies around but doesnt do much damage
near wyvern
honestly not sure how exorcist works on force sword but peril isn't usually a co...
You have to keep hitting the heads, it doesn't need to be against the same enemy. The first head hit does nothing, but each subsequent one will quell the amount listed instantly. Make a swing that misses a head and you need to start over. Works better with the heavy chain but can also proc here and there if spamming lights.
Only Mk V axe has decent damage on the push attack
regal musk
Lol, Got a Slab Shield Ogryn in that last run ... Entered a room full of shooters, Gunners and Reapers and planted shield ...
He didn't move while we were dancing around killing stuff so i eventually decided to just stand inside his hitbox and ended up being immune to ranged fire while being able to blast BBs and Purgatus freely XD
fierce sinew
firebreathing ogryn strikes terror in the hearts of heretics everywhere
still hearth
The Ogryn and staff combo is strong
magic burrow
Ogryn Psykers
whole wharf
pliant junco
Lol, Got a Slab Shield Ogryn in that last run ... Entered a room full of shooter...
based
quasi dove
Which of these two Surge Staffs should I gold?
runic current
quell speed is really good
manic needle
Both the perks on the top one are bad
quasi dove
So the 440 one then?
manic needle
I think so
runic current
yes
manic needle
RIP
quasi dove
I wanna die
manic needle
Top blessing is still what you want, though
manic needle
Who knows, maybe they'll fix Warp Flurry to work on more than just Voidstrike
Well its supposed to make charging sequential attacks with RMB faster
but it works by applying a short, stacking buff, which is too short for the Surge Staff's casting animation
quasi dove
bruh
manic needle
Least useless non-Warp-Nexus Surge blessing combo
thorny idol
So, I'm a Psyker main but was playing my Ogryn to level him up, we had a Psyker in the team that went through half a Malice mission without ever using the secondary fire on his trauma staff. I used the shield to set up a horde for him to blast, and he just cast bolts into it
I told him to use alt fire and he admitted to never using the secondary modes on weapons before, but he did and was seeming to enjoy it
Fast forward to whole party is downed as a big wave of Ogryns hit us and newbs scattered too far apart. I managed to drop most of them with my stubber but had a Bulwark I couldn't drop before the mag emptied, and it takes ages to take out a Bulwark with your own slab shield. I managed to get distance and rez that Psyker, cause his trauma will be able to take that bulwark with ease and we can rally.... He lets himself get cornered and only uses bolts again
idle bay
Just met my favourite kind of Zealot (they becoming more rare with players base dwindling) - he kept ignoring all the medkits deployed and kept dying dying and dying.. sometimes few meters from deployed medkit 🙂 Classic!
floral solstice
Sounds like a t4 game
thorny idol
Gotta love that
regal musk
Fast forward to whole party is downed as a big wave of Ogryns hit us and newbs s...
Shield should be capable of dropping a Bulwark easily, assuming you have the bleeding heavy attacks.
Chained heavies will prevent it from doing anything of value and the bleed will stack fast and kill it.
idle bay
Sounds like a t4 game
No no.. he failed that badly on Malice 🙂
thorny idol
Shield should be capable of dropping a Bulwark easily, assuming you have the ble...
Unlocked that the mission after
regal musk
Your post implied ytou were using a Slab Shield, my bad then XD
regal musk
Ah.
thorny idol
That's lvl 25 iirc
regal musk
No, its the second row IIRC
regal musk
Blood and Thunder. Second row lol
thorny idol
You're correct, I usually have the grenade box one
regal musk
Ehhh. I know some people like it. But Blood and Thunder is amazing for dealing with heavies like the Crushers, Bulwarks and Maulers/Ragers.
Pairing it with Bloodthirst at level 20 and Best Form of Defence at 5 makes you practically impossible to kill, especially if youre using slab on top to block bullets
devout halo
How to complete this? Any advice I should do?
regal musk
Mostly having a team on comms.
Just a matter of lucking into a good spawn with some of the weaker elites, get the team to help beat them down and control them and when you feel they're low enough for Perils piddling damage to actually take them out, trigger it
I daresay theres a guide on YT somewhere that can show you how to cheese it
wild token
How to complete this? Any advice I should do?
Comms plex. The interrogation room with elevator will always spawn at least 3 shotgunners and gunners
still hearth
Doing it on Malice, aside from less spawns, should be pretty easy?
shrewd grove
How to complete this? Any advice I should do?
Also means you need to kill them by overloading your peril meter then exploding but you probably know that
still hearth
I've not done it because I refuse to do penances I have to go out of my way to do that make no sense.
Why does the explosion do like no damage
wild token
How to complete this? Any advice I should do?
when you're at 100% peril you need to do something like shoot a bolt from your staff to activate the explosion
run in to a lot of people that didn't know that
it's very easy if you have a shield ogie to assist
thorny idol
I did it on the Hab Dreyki mission. Just being an Ogryn with slab through til extraction and kill all hordes, there's a door spawn that will periodically spawn a set of ragers, let them aggro on Ogryn and lightly damage them so the blast kills them
bronze hound
Guys, is this worth buying despite de dmg and quell? Melk's
bronze hound
Makes sense, yeah. Thanks
still hearth
Damage on purge is basically only for stagger, though.
And quell speed can be played around.
It depends on how much you value Melk coins and what you have already imo.
bronze hound
Point is, I already have a purgatus 380, but anointed, I don't want to spoil it
still hearth
Show us the staff!
Also if Purge works like Flamer then the burn threshold is 76% for maximum stacks
So its just barely below that.
bronze hound
It was mostly because the tier 3 blessings. And since the dmg is not as huge as burn and cloud I thought It may have been useful to have it, just in case. But yeah, this one I already have is far superior in terms of modifiers
still hearth
I think the crit blessing is nice, purge still does double burn stacks, right?
If you want to bet on blessing transfer that could be an option
bronze hound
I think so, I guess? Not sure at 100% I'm just a zealot pretending to be mind burster I'm afraid...
still hearth
Same
bronze hound
. /highknives
Purgatus is the closest to my beloved flamer, so I stick to it. It is not as powerful as the flamer tho
bronze hound
Yooo what if we get a force knife
We are the force, we just need the knife 🙂
bronze hound
Will try trauma staff, it may be fun. Not sure if good enough, but I think it'll be interesting.
manic needle
Trauma staff will make you get better at movement tech and peril juggling for sure
bronze hound
Trauma staff will make you get better at movement tech and peril juggling for su...
Sounds good. I've experienced the peril is kind of tricky compared to purgatus
bronze hound
forest coral
self inflicted trauma
There was almost identical staff on vermintide but this one feels worse in everyway somehow
manic needle
The targeting system on the Conflagration staff was more intuitive, was more efficient in terms of cast cost, and also did more damage IIRC
lethal folio
Targetting templates are mostly the same. Conflag had a more accurate template and dot to bring up the minimum damage.
wheat quartz
I like purgatus ability to be horribly wasteful because it has functionally infinite ammo
I can't do that on my zealots flamer
I can frivolously dump a full charge of purgatus on two poxwalkers if I feel like it
forest coral
Yeah, the fact that things take almost no damage at the outer ring of the explosion at the cost of 40+% of peril with trauma just makes me scratch my head
wheat quartz
If I do that on zealot I feel like I'm wasting scarce resources, which I am
forest coral
Purgatus and void strike single handedly holding down narrow choke points is always nice
still hearth
Yeah you're not meant to flamer into small hordes
tawny maple
Purgatus and void strike single handedly holding down narrow choke points is alw...
Don't let zealots see this, they'll start convulsing and repeating something about "discount flamer"
forest coral
Or purg getting like a line of elite frags because of horde body blocking is nice too
still hearth
Purgatus is a discount flamer 
The upside is you get infinite ammo so you can keep spamming it
forest coral
Don't let zealots see this, they'll start convulsing and repeating something abo...
I’m a zealot too and it is a discount flamour
tawny maple
Purgatus is a discount flamer <:helaughed:780124156704325662>
Except higher DOT and unlimited dot stacks opposed to max 16 burn on flamer
still hearth
It does less DoT
still hearth
That's
What
Explain
Purgatus doesn't have unlimited DoT stacks y'know that right
vagrant cedar
max is 15 at 80%
tawny maple
Explain
Crits currently apply two stacks of soulblaze and warp nexus makes crits super common. Soulblaze stacks dont have a cap and while purgatus is capped at 21 (maybe, dont remember) soulblaze stacks, if you add some more from other psyker or your ult you can melt anything
still hearth
Crits currently apply two stacks of soulblaze and warp nexus makes crits super c...
It is capped at 32 stacks, but your purgatus has a different cap.
The same as flamer
Burn is also capped at 32
But burn does damage every 0.5s while soulblaze every 0.75s
And crit also applies to stacks on Flamer
But sadly it doesn't have crit stacking
tawny maple
It is capped at 32 stacks, but your purgatus has a different cap.
Souldblaze itself does not have a cap, only staff does though
plus your warp charges make already applied soulblaze do more damage
still hearth
Souldblaze itself does not have a cap, only staff does though
How do you know this. The steam guide with hidden features says it has the same cap as burn.
And even in that case that's only relevant with Ascendant Blaze and several purge Psykers.
The first is good and the second doesn't feel great.
tawny maple
How do you know this. The steam guide with hidden features says it has the same ...
Point that to me please, I havent seen this.
still hearth
Point that to me please, I havent seen this.
It might actually
Not be in this one
One sec
tawny maple
I know the guide, I mean the part where they mention soulblaze
still hearth
This was the guide
It seems to work as they say it does overall and I've found no evidence to the contrary so far.
tawny maple
Okay
well, even in this case, applying 31 stack is simple with burn ult and warp syphon
and that amounts to over 200 damage a second
still hearth
Easy?
tawny maple
Yep
still hearth
I'm pretty sure Ascendent Blaze applies 1 stack per warp charge
Which means with a max staff you get 15+6
fringe garden
He is assuming you also have lots of adds to kill and that all the soul blaze stacks from the feat will all stack on whichever target he is going for
tawny maple
Which means with a max staff you get 15+6
It also does one or two base stacks on top and don't forget that your warp charges make soulblaze do more damage
still hearth
Well Zealot can make their flamer DoTs do +25% damage passively
tawny maple
In the long run this plus having no ammo constraints and quicker deployment time makes purgatus better in my eyes
forest coral
Main benefit for purg I feel is also ability to control mid range gunners
still hearth
Also it seems that crits add 2 extra stacks from what I can see
forest coral
Immediately suppressed a lot of them at once without fear of running out of ammo
fringe garden
I'd rather have a flamer zealot and a surge psyker than a purgatus psyker and whatever other ranged the zealot could bring
tawny maple
Also it seems that crits add 2 extra stacks from what I can see
Yes, and warp nexus blessing makes you crit all the time
forest coral
surge psyker is kinda frustrating to play for me in random join in damnation
If other players cracked it’s amazing but like
still hearth
The flamer and purge both just
forest coral
Ye.
still hearth
Kills things anyway
tawny maple
I'd rather have a flamer zealot and a surge psyker than a purgatus psyker and wh...
TBH at this point people learned the game enough that you don't need to run surge in damnation if you've a somewhat competent team
still hearth
But the crit boost is definitely nice on bigger targets
manic needle
Surge staff is nice, but overrated generally
Some people act like it's the only viable option which couldnt be further from the truth
forest coral
I still find purg/ void generally being more effective
still hearth
I'd just rather have an Mg12 than Void
wheat quartz
Surge is cursed. Whenever I pull it out, I get teams that can't kill anything, so I have to stare at some twitching dreg shooter as he slowly dies from my anemic warp lightning.
Purge only for me.
forest coral
Surge is cursed. Whenever I pull it out, I get teams that can't kill anything, s...
Me when surge and squad is lacking a crucial role
wheat quartz
Hahahaha
still hearth
I feel like regardless of what staff I take
Someone else is always taking that role
tawny maple
Surge feels so good against armoured targets, I feel straight up like a god killing them in 1.5 seconds
dregs though are another story
still hearth
So
The Surge staff
Probably has a cleave value 
It does such weird damage depending on what targets you're hitting.
tawny maple
It does such weird damage depending on what targets you're hitting.
Full damage on first target, half on the next ones
wheat quartz
I currently run a shred dueling sword and a warp nexus purge staff with +5 crit and maniac damage, was thinking of rolling the crit off into flak damage but if it's +2 stacks per crit instead of +1 I might not
tawny maple
it will try to hit what you're aiming at but it wont always do that
still hearth
Full damage on first target, half on the next ones
Next one* it does barely anything after the third target.
Yeah it seems to do the damage it should
It just looks so funky because of armor types
tawny maple
It will destroy any armour but struggle otherwise
if you walk into a room of scabs though, carnage will happen lol
still hearth
Its Unyielding damage is so sad
wheat quartz
I think if you bring surge, you really should bring a killy melee weapon like Antax 5 or a chainsword or something along those lines
Otherwise killing takes too long
tawny maple
I think if you bring surge, you really should bring a killy melee weapon like An...
You've enough time to charge a forcesword and hit too, using it all the time
manic needle
Damage values dont lie, surge is gabage against infested and unarmored
Which is a shame since thats such a large percentage of enemies
but when you get scabs it does tear shit up
shadow onyx
Surge feels so good against armoured targets, I feel straight up like a god kill...
sad the most annoying shooters are unamoured because of that huge 400 hp pool + immun suppress + near immune stagger + desert camo + almost no meta weapons have bonus vs unarmoured
tawny maple
Damage values dont lie, surge is gabage against infested and unarmored
Its meant to be, flesh doesn't conduct electricity as well as armour
shadow onyx
Damage values dont lie, surge is gabage against infested and unarmored
garbage vs half foes then
tawny maple
sad the most annoying shooters are unamoured because of that huge 400 hp pool + ...
Dont forget the fact their arms will soak all the damage regardless of your weapon being able to penetrate and hit the body 🥴
shadow onyx
Dont forget the fact their arms will soak all the damage regardless of your weap...
bulwark can stop plasma with shield so i guess its ok
manic needle
garbage vs half foes then
Only half? Feels like a lot more than that, tbh.
tawny maple
garbage vs half foes then
Negative, stun locking dreg shooters and getting them out of cover while veteran snipes them is still very useful
shadow onyx
Only half? Feels like a lot more than that, tbh.
well..basicaly half foes are flak/maniac and the other half is unarmoured
human sized foes *
shadow onyx
Negative, stun locking dreg shooters and getting them out of cover while veteran...
imagine depending of a mate to be efficient
another proof that psyker need a buff
tawny maple
Gotta go to Vermintide for that, darktide is made to be a much more team oriented game
solo clutching is nowhere as easy
shadow onyx
Gotta go to Vermintide for that, darktide is made to be a much more team oriente...
well zealot and vets are self relient
psyker are just low tier
you need the team to set up around you
its a legit baby sitted career
fringe garden
You really don't, though
tawny maple
well zealot and vets are self relient
Just cuz one full meta veteran build can do everything doesn't mean the rest are self reliant
manic needle
The stun on surge meakes it good enough to fill a controller role very efficiently, just dont be the guy who spams it during hordes of poxwalkers and groaners
shadow onyx
Just cuz one full meta veteran build can do everything doesn't mean the rest are...
you play surge = you are basicaly a stunlock machine with barely no dps beside flak/carapace and you suck vs hordes
you play purge = you deal ez with hordes/mixed but have litteraly no tools against shooters spam beside bb hide and seek boring
fringe garden
Surge plus a limb splitter antax is fantastic
wheat quartz
I bring AB just to deal with shooter gunline rooms out of purge range
tawny maple
Surge plus a limb splitter antax is fantastic
Correct, add kinetic deflector on that and you're unkillable
fringe garden
Yep
still hearth
Gun Psyker is the ultimate swiss knife
tawny maple
You just need to get creative with your builds
manic needle
Mk. 5 CAxe definitely fills the gap when using Surge staff
shadow onyx
meanwhile vets shred shooters in a sec while you are coping with quell and lifetime charg bb , have power sword with infinite cleave
meanwhile zealots can just F on melee vs 30 shooters then lock them into melee and chop chop + flamer
tawny maple
meanwhile vets shred shooters in a sec while you are coping with quell and lifet...
I invite you to kill 5 ragers as one veteran, and then try doing the same as an axe + surge psyker
shadow onyx
i dont think you realize how much effort for so little result pysker is in his actual state, playing vet or zealot is just day/night difference
fringe garden
I don't think you've ever played psyker with a good weapon loadout
shadow onyx
sure psykker is playable and ok in damnation, you can even duo damnation, but it doesnt mean its fine
shadow onyx
I invite you to kill 5 ragers as one veteran, and then try doing the same as an ...
i play plasma so i kill 3 ragers in a single bullet
tawny maple
sure psykker is playable and ok in damnation, you can even duo damnation, but it...
Brain burst can use some sort of a buff and a rework to make warp charges fun. Aside from that psyker is perfectly normal
fringe garden
Biggest drawback to psyker is needing specific melee weapon rolls to be effective imo
manic needle
Psyker is definitely more gear-dependent than other classes, which is annoying
fringe garden
It can be a pain to get those rolls since there is no crafting
still hearth
Melee weapons aside from a select few are pretty meh without blessings.
This is an issue on Zealot as well
manic needle
But once you have topped out gear you're honestly one of the better classes to have in a party tbh
still hearth
I think Psyker is the best at being flexible, but it doesn't have as good specializations as the other classes.
shadow onyx
I think Psyker is the best at being flexible, but it doesn't have as good specia...
yeah its a damn placeholder career
jack of all trade good at nothing
forest coral
It doesn’t dominate at a particular role outside of surge stunning
But it brings Jack of all trade regardless what u do which is ok
shadow onyx
ok at everything
manic needle
Deflector + kinetic deflection makes Psyker the tankiest rescuer in the game, outshining even the ogryn
shadow onyx
Deflector + kinetic deflection makes Psyker the tankiest rescuer in the game, ou...
true
still hearth
Ogryn shield 
wheat quartz
An unlimited ammo flamer is an unlimited ammo flamer, too
still hearth
Can't block bullets while ressing.
shadow onyx
but need to have good perks + build around deflector
still hearth
Unlimited 80% of a flamer
wheat quartz
Well. Yeah, can't have everything.
floral solstice
uh oh looks like zealot and psyker chat is starting to merge
as long as no one fights kek
forest coral
When purg flamer roulette strikes and you brain pop rows of elites is happy feeling
still hearth
Because Psyker is fun 
shadow onyx
even back to beta when pysker had a far easier bb, something was wrong in his core design
still hearth
When purg flamer roulette strikes and you brain pop rows of elites is happy feel...
People say this but it has a 15s cooldown doesn't it?
I've never seen multi brain pops actually happen.
forest coral
Does it?
manic needle
With the amount of CC that every psyker weapon has built into most of their class-specific weapons, it's hard to say that they're outshined in every way by other weapons. People just undervalue those things in general.
manic needle
Most staffs can stagger enemies + deal a pretty good amount of damage, more than the Ogryn can, certainly
forest coral
Maybe im just noticing pops here n there
But honestly hard to tell in swarm situations
fringe garden
People talk a lot of shit about ogryns usefulness, too, though
still hearth
The CD seems to work in Psyk
manic needle
Yeah again people dont really take into account how valuable control can be
still hearth
But it is short enough you probably just notice that
Ogryns are good but they require a lot more than other classes imo.
Low ammo, huge hitboxes which suffer in hordes.
But they have massive CC options and can stunlock hordes easily
lethal folio
15s cooldown and it's probably going to hit some random groaner.
fringe garden
Blocking your allies shots IS pretty annoying. Not that psyker cares, though
shadow onyx
Most staffs can stagger enemies + deal a pretty good amount of damage, more than...
stagger is broken like suppress, if you make fly a guy by bumping him, if he take a shit stagger , then is go straight standing because of ludicrous stagger system is in this game ( and vt2
lethal folio
All it's good for is keeping warp charge ticking.
manic needle
Flayer is mostly useful for maintaining stacks
Thats what I use it for on my voidstrike build
manic needle
Surge actually gets better usage out of it due to a hard cap of 6 targets hit
still hearth
Randomly
It needs a buff
So we can see the CD
Literally turned around and did the double headpop
I've definitely noticed it helping against Ogryns too but the warp charge gain on hordes is nice
fringe garden
I wish the devs would get over this goofy crafting system and just let us reroll stuff
manic needle
Next week™️
fringe garden
Making us collect weapons with perks and then removing them to put on another weapon just sounds stupid, lol
It's extra steps just to inflate grind
shadow onyx
I wish the devs would get over this goofy crafting system and just let us reroll...
they coping hard to retain player base knowing they are committing 90 % of their team on console version, every way to add more grind is good to apply
manic needle
It's extra steps just to inflate grind
To be fair, you cant grind out for something thats completely random
fringe garden
Well, by grind I guess I mean logging in every hour
manic needle
I maybe might go back and farm out some more mats in case I find a good staff in the store or something
shadow onyx
to me the most cancer rng thing is the locked perk thing
manic needle
But everything I can grind for will go to waste if I lose at the Armoury slot machines
fringe garden
The game just feels so unrewarding
shadow onyx
😏
manic needle
Yeah seeing two stacks of warp charge is funny, shame you cant switch your perks Feats out in game to benefit from ten stacks 😛
shadow onyx
floral solstice
The game just feels so unrewarding
your service for the emperor is its own reward.
fringe garden
your service for the emperor is its own reward.
No.
shadow onyx
Fatsark so nerd about 40 k they try do make the game in 10k years like primaris
so much devotion
cyan notch
But everything I can grind for will go to waste if I lose at the Armoury slot ma...
dont do it
manic needle
Oh yeah, after you win at the armory slot machines then you play Hadron's slot machines
and can still lose
Epic lewt
shadow onyx
380 antax axe
cyan notch
dont worry theyre addressing our feedback we just have to wait till next week
shadow onyx
get limsplitter
manic needle
Perfectly good trauma, ruined by transfer peril
floral solstice
spam lmb blast
manic needle
More like next month TBH
cyan notch
any date that isnt today is next week in fatsharks calender
manic needle
and in 2 more months Melk will have another high stat weapon that maybe might roll good perks and blessings, to make up for the limbsplitter TacAxe I got yesterday
shadow onyx
any date that isnt today is next week in fatsharks calender
soon
manic needle
any date that isnt today is next week in fatsharks calender
Fair
manic needle
With FSword you can spam to 100% peril and then quell to 99% and recast btw
Its kind of crazy
shadow onyx
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/RByTGNbh_MJRb/d1337S1jPcUu...
with wp and peril resist you can spam secondary without quell i think
you ""just""" need a good rolled FS
shadow onyx
With FSword you can spam to 100% peril and then quell to 99% and recast btw
quelling only a micro sec makes you down to 95-97 %
you could say the same for bb
manic needle
quelling only a micro sec makes you down to 95-97 %
If you flick fast enough you can charge again before the percentage points even tick down on the UI, I couldnt say whether thats simply a matter of UI display differentiating from the actual game values or not. However you can cast the FSword's special above 97%
still hearth
As you can see in my clip
You can just hold the heavy for a bit
And it will be consistent
manic needle
Also one of the few scenarios where I might consider Exorcist worthwhile tbh
Although I think Id rarely be spamming the special that hard
still hearth
If you look at the left hand
When it turns while you charge a heavy
You can always immediately special
still hearth
wheat quartz
I was annoyed when Hadron put Exorcist on a rating 37something T4 Deflector force sword
It's not as bad as a limb splitter blessing but it's like
y no shred
or executor
or slaughterer
manic needle
All I want for Valentine's Day is Bloodthirster on FS
manic needle
Adequate™️
shadow onyx
get rnged
feral topaz
@idle bay got my psyker to 30, what are the ideal (psyker) weapons one would want to have?
manic needle
Pick the staff type you like the most and perform well with and go from there.
Unless you're a Gun Psyker heretic
feral topaz
Nah, I dont wanna use guns on it
So far the lightning staff and the energy ball staff are fun.
No clue as to the blessings though
As for melee
I think Duelling mkIV is most useful, even if MKV's heavy attacks are more intuitive to me
As for Force Sword...
I have one with t2 deflector but its base rating is butt
manic needle
My voidstrike is still in pins I think if you want to have a look at it, for Surge go for Warp Nexus blessing + crit perks, or maybe flak
idle bay
<@189647817147416576> got my psyker to 30, what are the ideal (psyker) weapons o...
- Antox MK V axe with Brutal Momentum
- Force Sword with Deflector
- Surge staff with just good stats (Blessing do shit for this staff, save for Run and Gun if you master LMB spam headshotting).
- Purgatus staf with maxxed out BURN and CLOUD stats and crit stacking bleesing
feral topaz
1) Antox MK V axe with Brutal Momentum
2) Force Sword with Deflector
3) Surge st...
Huh. Ok. You uh, not a fan of the duelling sword?
idle bay
Huh. Ok. You uh, not a fan of the duelling sword?
After you take that axe into your hand - swords will fade from your memory forever
idle bay
It's VS anything axe. Even vs Horde with that blessing
manic needle
@feral topaz Here it is #psyker-class message
feral topaz
<@181159646218682370> Here it is https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407...
ty, looks great.
idle bay
Also best part about that axe is how maniacally Psyker laughs when he kills with it 🙂
feral topaz
Huh
well
the voice pack I picked already maniaclly laughs on the regular
sigh, dang it
finding another mkV Bromentum axe
wheat quartz
The dueling sword is fine with purgatus
idle bay
Also look and joke of the stats i have on my axe. Still good vs Horde
wheat quartz
Because purgatus delete horde, and the dueling sword is wonderful for killing a few dudes in a corridor fight
manic needle
Dueling sword is alright as an option, but you lose the aggressive and defensive horde clear that Antax Mk. 5 Axe offers. The main advantage of using a duelling sword is extra mobility, especially on the mk. 5
manic needle
Although in the Mk. 5 DS's case you lose more horde clear compared to the mk. 2 or 4
wheat quartz
You'll need the horde clear
feral topaz
I thought that
wheat quartz
Yeah that's why I specify with purgatus, because that thing out clears all melee weapons
feral topaz
MKIV has some horde clear because it has cleave damage, whereas MKV is single target?
wheat quartz
Different attack pattern too
feral topaz
Yeah, V has two top down execution strikes, IV has pokey poke
I used both but IV just seemed more useful in oh shit situations
wheat quartz
The point of V is really high damage strike down heavies that are also very fast, and insane range dodgeslides
idle bay
MKIV has some horde clear because it has cleave damage, whereas MKV is single ta...
Brutal momentum fucks physisc with single target axe. You chop i haed - few enemies dicks fall off on the ground as well
feral topaz
oh Im aware, I have such an axe on zealot
wheat quartz
Which makes hordes vanish
feral topaz
hmmmm
aight so
shopping list
1.MKV Axe 2.Top stat surge 3. Top stat Voidstrike 4.Top stat purgatus 5.MKV/IV swords for funsies
aight, now its just the waiting game
idle bay
And if you really really want to hurt yourself emotionally - get yourself a Trauma staff 🙂
feral topaz
...Ha
devout belfry
I keep trying to like the rapiers but they just don't put out.
feral topaz
I spend money on stupid stuff after I got the important stuff
devout belfry
Antacid V and FS for me.
plucky ginkgo
for the purgatus staff, should I look for high damage or high burn stat?
idle bay
Don't forget Force Sword with Deflector !
wheat quartz
76+ burn
idle bay
for the purgatus staff, should I look for high damage or high burn stat?
And Cloud
wheat quartz
Damage is completely and utterly useless
feral topaz
Oh, and I guess I should try to find FS with deflector that isnt 250 baseline
plucky ginkgo
I found one with 81% burn but 37% damage
wheat quartz
That's fine
devout belfry
for the purgatus staff, should I look for high damage or high burn stat?
The damage is so low. Burn is the most important.
wheat quartz
Damage only affects the actual tick damage of the staff
Which is tickle damage, it matters not at all
feral topaz
I was told on Purgatus that cloud and burn are king, and damage is dumpstat, is it true?
wheat quartz
Yes
feral topaz
cool cool
devout belfry
Most stats are pretty useless on most things. You only need the three that matter so at least we have that going for us -_-
idle bay
Oh, and I guess I should try to find FS with deflector that isnt 250 baseline
That is the best part -force sword is so garbage for killing anything without Special attack that it's stats could be 0% and you will not see any difference. Just baseline trash stats with Deflector will do. Perks are important though +1 Stamina and Block Efficiency
feral topaz
That is the best part -force sword is so garbage for killing anything without Sp...
...gimme a minute to check
summer prairie
damage isn't really a dumpstat if you care about your dps against bosses and some other high hp enemies
devout belfry
That is the best part -force sword is so garbage for killing anything without Sp...
The damage stat is bad but attack speed makes a difference.
plucky ginkgo
so the one I found with 37% damage 80% burn 71% cloud 80% warp and 64% quell is pretty decent?
devout belfry
so the one I found with 37% damage 80% burn 71% cloud 80% warp and 64% quell is ...
Yes
floral solstice
@cyan notch did i just play with you lol
plucky ginkgo
what blessings shoud I be looking for for a purgatus staff?
so far I have terrifying barrage
floral solstice
nexus, focused channeling, terrifying barrage is ok
plucky ginkgo
20% damage maniacs and 20% damage unarmoured
cyan notch
<@283547305758687232> did i just play with you lol
oh wtf yea with the yolo vet
floral solstice
lmfao
zealot cosplay
also i was using surge feats and failed to change before timer kek
shouldve just said i can surge
cyan notch
2 times i ressed him he just afked
floral solstice
20% damage maniacs and 20% damage unarmoured
get crit
chance
when i was trying to rescue you guys with the ogryn i told him to look out for the poxburster
then it blew up behind me
lol
feral topaz
That is the best part -force sword is so garbage for killing anything without Sp...
here
floral solstice
ranged crit chance yes
plucky ginkgo
okay
floral solstice
at least maniacs covers ragers i guess
try asking others too
i've been a surge spammer for weeks
plucky ginkgo
floral solstice
i just started learning the in's and out's of purg myself this week
plucky ginkgo
this is mine atm
cyan notch
@floral solstice added you if you wanna play sometime
cyan notch
yea np
still hearth
Never keep unarmored basically
floral solstice
looks decent cappi
plucky ginkgo
yeah so ill replace that for crit chance?
still hearth
Should be solid 
plucky ginkgo
its my first lvl 30 staff so pretty decent haha
still hearth
Yeah it's very good
floral solstice
rolls run n gun
still hearth
More like run n fun
cyan notch
dont worry theyll let us reroll both perks in the Crafting Rework Next Week™️
plucky ginkgo
its next week?
still hearth
still hearth
its next week?
It's a meme.
plucky ginkgo
ah okay haha
cyan notch
its next week in fatshark timezone which basically means anytime from tomorrow to 2077
plucky ginkgo
what is nexus?
plucky ginkgo
it says max 4% but also stacks 5 times?
manic needle
Warp Nexus - Crit bonus blessing that stacks with increasing peril
plucky ginkgo
so 20% max? or still 4% max?
manic needle
20%
floral solstice
WAT
plucky ginkgo
when does it stack exactly?
manic needle
At a threshold of 97%
manic needle
I didnt bookmark the different tiers but the second to last one is bugged and also ticks at 97%
Ill see if I can find them later, probably going to bed soon lol
feral topaz
is it really 20? wtf i thought it was only 4%
4% per stack, up to max 5 stacks, 5x4 = 20%
manic needle
The Fatshark special
floral solstice
i thought max % meant the highest crit chance you get is what's written
feral topaz
Ah, I see what you mean
plucky ginkgo
its weird yeah since it says max 4%
still hearth
Fatshark All or Nothing.
plucky ginkgo
lmao
still hearth
worthy wedge
how do you build stacks of it?
feral topaz
It just says
worthy wedge
it doesn't seem to say?
feral topaz
+critical chance
manic needle
It's max %... per stack, which is a stupid way to word it
plucky ginkgo
so does it stack ever 20% peril or smthing?
manic needle
Almost nonsensical
floral solstice
guess their intern or janitor wrote the bless/feat descriptions
plucky ginkgo
or is it on a timer
feral topaz
yeah I think its a localization issue
still hearth
The peril stacks are weird iirc
manic needle
Yeah, as mentioned the last two stacks both trigger at 97% right now
still hearth
yeah I think its a localization issue
Swedes all have mandatory English
plucky ginkgo
weird lol
I hope ill get that
otherwise ill just have to wait until the crafting update
floral solstice
im asian and i bet my english is better than their staff jk
floral solstice
otherwise ill just have to wait until the crafting update
have fun waiting for next (?) week!
feral topaz
next week, the darktide equivalent of the end-game, random and refreshes every set interval
plucky ginkgo
wouldnt be surprised at this point
still hearth
Shared inventory only 29.99
manic needle
I thought it was mentioned that any patches coming next week would be hotfixes?
still hearth
More like coldfixes
plucky ginkgo
or make them worse
still hearth
floral solstice
yeah hotfixes is pretty much the only thing im expecting next week
feral topaz
coldfixes
Im ded
still hearth
I'm here all week, bby
manic needle
The only big thing coming next week™️ is a community update so we finally know what's coming in the future
floral solstice
or you know, the TH buffs they promised last patch
still hearth
or you know, the TH buffs they promised last patch
manic needle
-added a strobe light effect to all Psyker abilities so that non-Surge staff users don't miss out on last month's fun
plucky ginkgo
hahaha
floral solstice
i actually stopped playing psyker until they fixed that
my head was already hurting from videos of it that i've seen
manic needle
It was the ultimate immersion. Surge staff users got to experience Perils of the Warp IRL
ornate hamlet
You're going to get run n gun
plucky ginkgo
what does that do?
manic needle
Basically nothing 🙂
feral topaz
It was the ultimate immersion. Surge staff users got to experience Perils of the...
"Tapping into my Epilepsy"
ornate hamlet
useless shit
manic needle
You can sprint with Left click staff attacks, wew
plucky ginkgo
hmmmm yes
ornate hamlet
hm... i should buy this shouldn't i
manic needle
I wonder if the reason Run 'n' Gun doesnt affect movement speed with most staff RMBs is because the game considers it ADSing
worthy wedge
All blessings are useful in the hands of the emperor's people.
floral solstice
imagine at least getting bonus movespeed with run n gun
idle bay
useless shit
Unless it on Surge and you master LMB headshots. Then it's OP
manic needle
The Emperor Himself couldnt find a use for some of these blessings TBH
they are a curse from Tzeentch
still hearth
I wonder if the reason Run 'n' Gun doesnt affect movement speed with most staff ...
All secondary actions are basically not hipfire. Sounds correct
foggy iron
trying to gauge people's opinion's on whether I should I buy and upgrade this staff. The stats overall seem good but the burn and radius both being lower does kinda make me feel like its a worse option
Also running a soulblaze build if that matters
cloud heron
Melk selling anything lower than 350 should be illegal
agreed
broken quail
Damage vs elites or specialists, what to reroll?
north cradle
I'd say Elites
plucky ginkgo
which enemies are classified as maniacs?
cloud heron
chargers and trappers
cloud heron
maniac is an armor type I think, not actually an enemy classification
north cradle
Oh derp lol
cloud heron
maybe it's both, since nothing is consistent in this game
still hearth
Elites are enemies that are already pre-spawned iirc.
north cradle
I thought he said Mutants
still hearth
Specialists spawn with sound cues.
And snipers
Basically all the units around sniper in Psykarnum are specialists.
plucky ginkgo
idk since I have a staff with 20% damage to maniacs
north cradle
Specialist kills go SWUMP and Elite kills go SWOOP
plucky ginkgo
ooh never noticed that
cloud heron
plucky ginkgo
ooo nice
ornate hamlet
north cradle
What gets me is that since Dreg Ragers are Maniac, I can't one-shot them with the Force Sword like I can with Scab Ragers
broken quail
No armor best armor. 'hit'
cloud heron
modern turret
cyan notch
breast of nurgle
modern turret
The type also varies depending on where u strike for select enemies
near wyvern
Which is why you want +25 flak on purge 🫡
cloud heron
last version. Had also cut off a column in this last one
frail berry
What helm cosmetic is that?
manic needle
It's the grey hood you buy from the Armoury
worthy wedge
Assassination targets also count as monstrosities.
maiden wolf
I can't wait to put inspiring barrage on the orange one when blessings can be farmed.
Autopistol go brrrrr
also gonna put crit chance on it once I refill my plasteel stocks
north cradle
What helm cosmetic is that?
Kinda wack that I can't buy colour changes to the Heresy penance gear
frail berry
Doh! Need going out with a bang before I can get that I think? I have the others done 😒
north cradle
No, you just need the first hood
clear coyote
just got this up from white and am appalled 
north cradle
I'd personally go for Maniac but Flak is also great
cloud heron
Stamina helps with kinetic deflection blocking
north cradle
Yeh but no Deflector
cloud heron
so if we ever get crafting and you put deflector on it
maiden wolf
just got this up from white and am appalled <:whatthefuck_heresy:104972444420723...
Stamina gives you better block
north cradle
Oh wait I forgot that Stamina is like Block Efficiency but better for the Kinetic Deflection
clear coyote
Stamina gives you better block
im looking at the blessings
proud mantle
wuts dump stat for surge staff
cloud heron
wuts dump stat for surge staff
Charge
north cradle
Charge Rate
north cradle
I'm pretty proud of this one so far even still
Okay I got Lifeleech 4 and just found out there's a fifth tier, what class should I try to 100% now
Cause right now I'm
cloud heron
man, those mission count penances go hard
summer prairie
100% the mission type penances, you only need 500 each
north cradle
Is Flawless Execution that I don't go down five times, or the whole team?
cloud heron
just you
cold zinc
do dogs and trappers count as downs for those?
cloud heron
i don't think so
north cradle
They shouldn't
cloud heron
I got mine as an ogryn without particularly trying for it
cyan notch
apparently falling off a ledge counts as going down
near wyvern
apparently falling off a ledge counts as going down
What about trapper net?
Oh it was just asked I am blind
Excuse my sillyness
real lion
which mission is good to try do penance on edge?
cloud heron
which one is that?
outer gate
i think throw down a cliff x enemies with the psyker explosion
real lion
to kill 7 enemies by pushing them down into abyss
cloud heron
vigil station with the espionage objective
azure girder
That one is so random - been trying to get it now that I switched to Steam.
cloud heron
at the finale when you're guarding the one interrogator in the center, you can knock them off of the bridge they have to cross to get to you
boreal cave
chasm logi with the littel bridge to the left at the start
chill and wait for a horde then lure them on push em off
cloud heron
the vigil station finale is, imo, the best place for it. You can do it organically and have multiple chances
cold zinc
I did mine on vigil as well. Just get yourself next to the horde on the bridge, use your ult, then keep block pushing until the penance pops up
azure girder
Just not with matchmaking 🙂
cloud heron
You totally can get it in matchmaking
like you can probably just ask, but it's also pretty easy to just have the situation happen
may take you a few shots if get a flamer zealot or something though
shadow onyx
ive did all my penance without any cheese beside monster with 90% bb
for psy
since they nerfed the amount required tyo push them away
its far easier
azure girder
Still stuck at 6/7. There's always some bullshit going on. 🤷
azure girder
Just did the espionage one - Mobs just somehow stuck on the ledge. I hate it 😄
shadow onyx
do you have force sword?
try to spam block push ( not the mega push ) and stay at the edge
not on the lenght
azure girder
I have a force sword and bad luck I guess
shadow onyx
chainsword very nice
light quail
north cradle
True yeh
I got the T4 Warp Flurry but that's okay, Peril Transfer with Re-Blessing soon 
real lion
really this game has still potato servers
fringe garden
I don't think it's the servers. I've been playing through GeForce Now's Ultimate service and the game runs flawlessly on their systems
arctic rampart
I don't think it's the servers. I've been playing through GeForce Now's Ultimate...
Geforce Now server farm probably neighbours/cohouses with Amazon server farms, tbh
Which would explain it being better if it's not actually the servers, but the netcode/packetloss/something else messing things up very badly.
sleek yacht
I agree, it used to be heresy and higher from my experience, but now hordes on malice have been causing some really terrible unregistered hits and input lag
woven wadi
vagrant cedar
very nice
glass patrol
I will pray for you sibling
idle bay
Oh my... what i rolled from blue axe 🙂
I lubricated Hadron with a bucket of WD-40 to roll that
long wharf
Oh my... what i rolled from blue axe 🙂
so, why didn't you roll block efficiency off
fringe garden
Not exactly. Some weapon perks scale with peril level. And there is a feat in the 2nd tier that does so
digital narwhal
I've put aside my Force Sword and embraced the Duelling Sword as the better of the two.
Just feels better.
Got a decent-ish one.
Just gotta replace Crit Chance with Flak me thinks.
stuck plinth
Not exactly. Some weapon perks scale with peril level. And there is a feat in th...
Okay, next question:
what is warp charge?
digital narwhal
Okay, next question:
what is warp charge?
It explains when you hover over the Iconic
fringe garden
You get a warp charge when you brain burst an enemy from the start. As you level you'll get access to feats that help you generate them
And it gives a 3% damage bonus per stack, 4 max stacks at first
I honestly wouldn't put too much emphasis worrying about them
stuck plinth
at some point do I get things that make the brain burst go faster?
fringe garden
The final tier of feats does have a thing for that
stuck plinth
ah, I see
fringe garden
Brain burst can be strong if you use it well. Easiest to think of it as a long range sniper option in your back pocket
Ive seen psykers who are good at charging it when they anticipate a need for it, but it can leave you very vulnerable in close quarters when charging
It's great for bursting enemies at range because most of our staves have limited range
stuck plinth
And I'm guessing the staves are secondary weapons? meaning no staff and autogun
chrome dune
Brain burst can be strong if you use it well. Easiest to think of it as a long r...
This is the way. Plus, once you lock on to an enemy, you don’t need to keep line of sight. It is definitely the hard counter to snipers.
worthy kite
anyone have any tips on getting Cliffhanger achievement? Or just pray?
stuck plinth
This is the way. Plus, once you lock on to an enemy, you don’t need to keep line...
I've learned and seen this.
much easier than getting rid of them as a vet
west stream
if you can private with someone
just go to chasm logistratum
clear bridge
get to horde
go back to bridge, on the left side there's a narrow passageway you can stand on then shove everyone off when they are together
for example
chrome dune
That 3% damage boost always confused me. It’s so little, and takes so much effort to keep it at four just for an extra 12%… Why bother?
long wharf
yep, warp charges are best thought of as a passive buff that you don't think about
worthy kite
go back to bridge, on the left side there's a narrow passageway you can stand on...
I find that the knock back is like really short
long wharf
with the sole exception of when you run Ascendant Blaze
worthy kite
I have to basically be standing on the edge to get them to fall
west stream
use force sword shove to assist
idle bay
so, why didn't you roll block efficiency off
Other perk was Sprint Efficiency , and i'm actually using Block Efficiency in the build
west stream
or laser pistol one I guess
long wharf
Other perk was Sprint Efficiency , and i'm actually using Block Efficiency in th...
oof, ouch
worthy kite
but force sword is probably easier / better
mmmk
west stream
I understand people may do, for sword shove, press F, more force sword
this may help
chrome dune
worthy kite
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z1g9kh/how_i_got_the_psyker_cliffhang...
Thanks!
rough egret
worth upgrading to legendary?
shadow onyx
imo yes
ornate hamlet
I've put aside my Force Sword and embraced the Duelling Sword as the better of t...
good move, now try axe
long wharf
once you try axe, you never go back(s)
ornate hamlet
long wharf
yeah, the heavy swing is great for big targets
the push attack is great for groups/horde
ornate hamlet
that's on damnation btw
still hearth
The axes absolutely destroy Unyielding
ornate hamlet
and it's a MK 2 not even the best axe archtype
and it didn't have +25 damage to unyielding on it, i added it later
long wharf
using a fsword feels weak, honestly, in comparison
you don't a satisfying thunk when you swing the fsword
digital narwhal
good move, now try axe
But Sword.
still hearth
The F-Sword is sexy though.
ornate hamlet
i'm just not a fan of force sword
the best argument for it is the ability to revive allies while peril blocking
idle bay
Phew.... weekly 25/25 missions and 25/25 scriptures completed on 2 characters. I can rest now 🙂
ornate hamlet
it's block push is aoe, but the range was nerfed so it's block push isn't actually really any better than other melee wep block push
and it's DPS is awful unless you're using special attack, which causes peril and frankly just isn't synergistic with most staff builds imo as axe is
digital narwhal
Which sword would you argue in favour of?
ornate hamlet
the key to finding the rigth build for you is finding a synergy between ranged/melee weapon options that enables you the right amount of CC/DPS that you think is most effective for your playstyle
for me, that's purg staff with axe
purg staff is amazing for aoe dps, axe is amazing for single target dps
west stream
I'd go for one on left but that's my take.
ornate hamlet
and they both apply a nice amount of stagger
mental osprey
I use the force sword to infinitely dash out of danger while quelling, outside of that, I use the special to one shot some specials and help with other big targets, basically I just use it to maneuver, most of the stuff I get done with the Purgatus
ornate hamlet
Which sword would you argue in favour of?
i'm no duelling sword enthusiast, but.. the left one is significantly better statwise i believe
you should probably reroll a perk tho
digital narwhal
you should probably reroll a perk tho
Well yeah
But a weapon with 1 good base Perk is worth the pick-up
Hence I was curious
ornate hamlet
343 base stat total is a decent roll, and having lower "defenses" and lower "penetration" are probably the least important stats of the 5 stats on that wep, so imo it's a pretty good roll
digital narwhal
I should see if I can grab a Duelling Sword with Rampage so I can rip off the Blessing and slap it onto one of these swords
rough egret
what is the consensus on stamina vs block efficiency for deflector sword? which is better?
digital narwhal
Shred + Rampage would put in a lot of work I think
ornate hamlet
what is the consensus on stamina vs block efficiency for deflector sword? which ...
assuming there's probably diminishing returns, probably a mix
i vaguely remember someone mentioning stamina still matters when peril blocking
rough egret
ok. i saw a link on the forum of someone saying that block efficiency increased their peril gain which seemed counter intuitive
digital narwhal
Isn't Block Efficiency a bit borked with Deflector?
rough egret
digital narwhal
Or am I mistaken?
rough egret
so i wasn't sure if this is fixed or not
digital narwhal
so i wasn't sure if this is fixed or not
Well we haven't gotten anything
so don't count on it
rough egret
haha true
fringe garden
Stamina and block efficiency together make for fantastic blocking with normal melee. You hit 80% peril then blocking starts draining stamina which regens fast and gives your peril time to autoquell
It feeds into itself while also restoring toughness via quitetude
digital narwhal
Stamina and block efficiency together make for fantastic blocking with normal me...
Peril Block goes to 97, no?
Or was it Kinetic Flayer that works below 97?
fringe garden
Pretty sure it starts draining stamina at 80
long wharf
peril block works up to 90% peril
rigid blade
Pretty sure it starts draining stamina at 80
I think it’s 90 something, I know for a fact it never blows you up so got that at least
long wharf
the cost for blocking gets reduced by your maximum stamina
rigid blade
the cost for blocking gets reduced by your maximum stamina
That explains a lot.
still hearth
Gonna get a lot of Psykers with Deflector holding block like Shield Ogryns when +3 stamina curios are fixed
rigid blade
I want to try to be a shield Ogryn in Damnation someday
fringe garden
I just like having a good chunk of stam and Regen for push attacking with antax. KD and block efficiency all play into it very well
rigid blade
How does Block Efficiency work exactly? Like the math behind it even if I’m bad at math.
long wharf
Gonna get a lot of Psykers with Deflector holding block like Shield Ogryns when ...
you want at least one max stamina curio and block efficiency on all curios
frail berry
Does the Antax MK V have a dump stat or stat priority? ty!
fringe garden
My antax rolled with 12 mobility but 75%+ in all other stats. Still has 4 dodges... So meh
long wharf
the way peril cost for blocking is calculated is that a normal block cost is calculated
then that value is divided by your max stamina and then multiplied by the built-in warp_charge_efficiency_multiplier value
fringe garden
Has t4 limbsplitter and the +power on heavy attack charge up. Works fantastically well
olive cairn
I've been messing around with a gift trauma staff on t4. Although the stats are great and the effects looks cool, secondary fire is a tactical nightmare. To paraphrase what others have said, trauma staff sucks.
summer prairie
Cleave targets is the dump stat
frail berry
orly?
fierce sinew
if the stat screen is accurate cleave targets does actual nothing
IE the only swing you cleave with (push attack) isn't there
still hearth
Cleave Targets does help but you want Brutal Momentum on axes anyway.
And Antax cleave targets is kinda low so its not a big deal.
long wharf
could be a description issue, because you can plainly see when your push attack stops cleaving
fierce sinew
I have a meme ax with 30 cleave target and no BM and push attack still works 
rigid blade
then that value is divided by your max stamina and then multiplied by the built-...
You mean the peril resist?
long wharf
You mean the peril resist?
nope, peril resist is actually not involved in the calculation
long wharf
it should be a final modifier, but it's not
still hearth
I have a meme ax with 30 cleave target and no BM and push attack still works <:p...
Show it then ya nerd
magic burrow
ahh
rigid blade
nope, peril resist is actually not involved in the calculation
So just having more charges let’s you block more?
still hearth
Its the one with only one mission of its type after all.
fierce sinew
if I remember when I'm playing tonight I will
long wharf
upping your max stamina is important
still hearth
The push attack could just have a different cleave modifier tbf
Sometimes the game just
Does do that
long wharf
The push attack could just have a different cleave modifier tbf
also true
still hearth
Imagine if we could get the damage chart on push attacks
long wharf
thing is, your max stamina changes depending on the weapon you're wielding
fierce sinew
the push attack being in its own category that follows its own rules is basically what I assume at this point
long wharf
the mkv caxe has +3 stamina
summer prairie
Warp charge efficiency multiplier is just a weird name, it's not based on your warp charges. Peril used to be called warp charge
fringe garden
Antax with limb splitter is fantastic if you can't find a good one with brutal momentum, too
fierce sinew
I don't think any stat on anything mentions them but they obviously scale with something
long wharf
Warp charge efficiency multiplier is just a weird name, it's not based on your w...
yeah, just like soulblaze is called warpfire in code
still hearth
Antax with limb splitter is fantastic if you can't find a good one with brutal m...
Say that in Zealot chat and get beat up 
rigid blade
Warp charge efficiency multiplier is just a weird name, it's not based on your w...
So it is peril resist? Or what exactly is the efficiency part?
long wharf
Antax with limb splitter is fantastic if you can't find a good one with brutal m...
why not both?
fringe garden
Amen
summer prairie
It's just a static value, you can ignore it
frail berry
Is decimator any good?
still hearth
The typical Zealot meme axes are Limbsplitter + Decimator
rigid blade
It's just a static value, you can ignore it
Ahhh, ok.
fringe garden
Though I do like mine with the 45% power on heavy attack charge. Total of 65% power bonus on an overhead swing
rigid blade
Is decimator any good?
The large chainsword? Better asking in Zealot but I think it’s pretty good personally.
long wharf
so the answer to the question of "should I be stacking max stamina for peril blocking" is "depends on how much stamina you already have"
fringe garden
It bops big guys nicely
still hearth
Though I do like mine with the 45% power on heavy attack charge. Total of 65% po...
I think different mods are multiplicative so it should be more.
frail berry
The large chainsword? Better asking in Zealot but I think it’s pretty good perso...
On the antax
rigid blade
so the answer to the question of "should I be stacking max stamina for peril blo...
Time for 3 stamina curios
long wharf
if you have 5 bars of stamina, adding 1 is a 20% increase in effective blocking
fringe garden
I've seen it hit for like 1500 in the training room
rigid blade
On the antax
Ah
fierce sinew
The large chainsword? Better asking in Zealot but I think it’s pretty good perso...
that's the eviscerator
rigid blade
that's the eviscerator
Oops.
viral solstice
oh huh peril block lets u block crusher overheads
das funny
u get stam broken
but?
rigid blade
oh huh peril block lets u block crusher overheads
Psykers mind is more dense than an Ogryn.
rigid blade
u get stam broken
Also I’m pretty sure the overhead stamina breaks regardless.
viral solstice
ye i mean its an error in how its coded
rigid blade
ye i mean its an error in how its coded
One of the few errors I like.
Crusher is meant to be slow but hit hard, ya gotta have something resembling decent dodge to dodge him, blocking is just a last resort.
rigid blade
Yeah.
long wharf
I'm literally looking at it right now
hazy locust
Yall, i need help.
this game is darksided.
my mom has been dead for years and yet...
she was in game just this afternoon
safe pendant
mom? sorry. mom? sorry
