I got a fantastically rolled Antax axe that does pretty bonkers horde and single target damage. I can pair it with any surge for strong CC or purgation for better horde clear.
#psyker-class
fringe garden
hot zephyr
Strong disagree here. Anyone who believes a well rolled 340 item vs a 380 makes any difference is wrong. You also don't need a deflector force sword as much as everyone thinks you do
fringe garden
When crafting comes out we will hopefully have much more control over our builds
No no
I mean perks
and blessings
And I dont use a deflector force sword hardly ever
I have an Antax that rolled with the +45% power upon heavy weapon swing and the +20% power for first attacks and -20% on subsequent. You reset that first attack on every push attack. The combo is absolutely fantastic
hot zephyr
Ok fair enough. I'm so used to people thinking OMG do I gotta have a deflector force sword or I'm garbage it's the first thing I tell people to stop believing
fringe garden
We're talking +65% power on charged heavy attacks. Power being +damage, cleave, AND impact
It's... significant
austere estuary
Ok fair enough. I'm so used to people thinking OMG do I gotta have a deflector f...
yeah it's complete nonsense
hot zephyr
Oh yeah. That's definitely a big deal. But at the same time, an antax without those blessings is still a very good weapon because it's block efficiency and amazing push
fringe garden
True, but bonking a rager for 1500 is pretty sweet
austere estuary
I'm currently using either a force sword just because executor 3, or a tac axe with all or nothing + shred
or sometimes a catachan mk1 with shred
sadly my executor 3 FS rolled the rending blessing as its second
if it only rolled shred 
fringe garden
But what I really was meaning was that your milage may very dramatically. A force sword with slaughterer and deflection is a totally different beast. It deals pretty amazing damage and has all that utility still. Would love to try one.
For someone with that roll, I could totally get them gushing about FS
austere estuary
I literally haven't used either deflection or slaughterer in forever
my best FS has superiority and uh
I can't even rmeember
but good stats
fringe garden
I dislike the FS's combos in general
austere estuary
I love them 
fringe garden
I like having wider sweeps. Which, granted, you can spam light attack into heavy attack for a decently wide swing on FS
But it just doesn't feel good to me
Which is a lot of what makes tide games fun. You find a weapon that clicks
Not being able to tailor your rolls with said weapons so you have the right perks to make them really shine is pretty frustrating
austere estuary
what I like about FS is the angles of attack, the 360 push, the burst on the active, and its incredible blessing pool
I also like the tac axe for its moveset and speed, wish it could handle hordes better
long wharf
I dislike the fsword's moveset enough that I just don't want to use it
hot zephyr
Yeah. The problem I have with force sword is that it compliments a gun build so well I have to have one but I absolutely love my chainsword so much more.
austere estuary
oh and the infinite dodges
one thing I've noticed about FS though is not skipping the third light after a light heavy combo is p good since it's so much stronger for its speed
usually an instakill on poxwalkers etc
long wharf
calling "using a gun as a psyker" a "gun build" is really abusing the word "build"
hot zephyr
calling "using a gun as a psyker" a "gun build" is really abusing the word "buil...
Yeah.... It really is.
long wharf
there is no "gun build" for psyker
hot zephyr
It's more like melee-and-bb focused build that happens to use a gun for utility
long wharf
you're just choosing to use a gun and try to shore up all of your shortcomings with the psyker ult and BB
budget veteran in all the worst ways
frank sedge
I long for a day when Psyker can get a build other than 'the CC bitch' or 'budget Flamer'
hot zephyr
I think it's more than budget veteran but yeah that's how you get viewed
long wharf
I long for a day when Psyker can get a build other than 'the CC bitch' or 'budge...
you call it "CC bitch", I call it "ensuring the mission succeeds in a way no other class can"
austere estuary
I long for a day when Psyker can get a build other than 'the CC bitch' or 'budge...
You can 🤷
I play trauma in damnation more than any other staff
second purg, and third void, though mainly waiting on a nice void to appear
hot zephyr
I long for a day when Psyker can get a build other than 'the CC bitch' or 'budge...
Using a gun is definitely frustrating when your group doesn't understand what you can do and just thinks you're a veteran
long wharf
that's the problem - you're impersonating a veteran
austere estuary
psyker with good use of melee, warp charges and so on with a mk12
is pretty crazy
long wharf
"what you can do" is use that gun in a way that is inferior to a Veteran
frank sedge
it feels more like basically every role that can be filled in this game rn, other than the Surge staff CC, every single class can do a thousand times better than you xD
austere estuary
I don't really think that's the case
long wharf
it feels more like basically every role that can be filled in this game rn, othe...
and this is reason alone to run surge psyker
fierce sinew
If you're in a premade it's one thing but I don't think pugs are at fault for not intuitively playing around someone's hipster offmeta build
supple skiff
question is: is a surge psyker better than say, another vet with a plasma gun or whatever
austere estuary
I only play pugs
hot zephyr
If surge psyker was the only viable build I'd uninstall the game. The gameplay loop on surge psyker is boring beyond boring.
austere estuary
I think people get way, way too hung up on meta
frank sedge
I am sorry to say, but Psyker can be 'really good with an mk12' does not even come close to the fact that I can waltz into the firing line on Damnation without a care in the world on my Vet with the same gun, never losing my toughness and pop heads like its going out of style :p
austere estuary
on darktide forums/discord etc
supple skiff
comms is meta
frank sedge
but it pales in comparison XD
long wharf
question is: is a surge psyker better than say, another vet with a plasma gun or...
if the team already has boss kill, then a surge psyker is 100% better for the team than a second boss killing vet
long wharf
the gun is not the only part of the class
the fact is the gun isn't a part of the psyker class at all
austere estuary
Holistic consideration is not in vogue
supple skiff
you can min max all you want but if you arn't running premades or at the very least using voice comms your not maxing anything lol
well what do you usually want to stun with a surge anyways
austere estuary
actually, never mind wow forums
supple skiff
presumably you could just bring along another class that can kill whatever that is so CC isn't necessary
austere estuary
reminds me a certain section of monhun community
long wharf
I don't care if you want to run around with a gun as a psyker for funsies
austere estuary
worshipping a perceived meta
long wharf
I'll absolutely lambast you if you claim that it's "viable" or "good", however
at malice-, anything goes
heresy+, skill is a very big factor
fierce sinew
What would help is if we could gear check people on the ready screen to see what they're using and flex around it, as it is if you matchmake into someone who won't chat you have no information to go on other than melee weapon and "meta" tendencies
floral solstice
I am sorry to say, but Psyker can be 'really good with an mk12' does not even co...
heck, i've done the same on high intensity t5 on my zealot with a vet cosplay loadout, claw 4 and las/autogun, and i'd prefer that anyday over psyker guns because a bunch of zealot feats can support a mostly-gunplay loadout
long wharf
but when a heresy+ run wipes, and it's because the psyker is running a gun instead of being a psyker, I'll call them the fuck out
fierce sinew
and if you're in that spot and someone pulls out some anti synergistic nonsense it's perfectly fair to roll your eyes at it
long wharf
I just wish we get account-wide resources and gear trading between characters in the future
my vet has the perfect bleed knife for my zealot
frank sedge
my vet has the perfect bleed knife for my zealot
imagine having both god roll Bolter on 2 god roll mg12s on your zealot... but you wish it was on your Vet 
long wharf
yeah, psyker's ranged weapon pool is saturated with nonsense
I don't think psykers should even use rifles
make everything one-handed so that they can quell with anything
like what the hell is my vet supposed to do with this?
long wharf
pretty much
floral solstice
you can make ragers that get past your team bleed kek, but that probably just means that someone on your team isn't doing their job
long wharf
and Hadron ruined this for me
frank sedge
oh god thats pain...
mellow raft
and Hadron ruined this for me
I’m throwing up 💀💀💀 fat shark plz
mint heart
Man hunting for deflector and slaughterer on a fs is such a pain.
long wharf
imagine hunting for bloodthirsty
mint heart
fuck no lol
I've upgraded maybe 30 fs and only have gotten slaughterer 2 times. Never seen bloodthirsy
hot zephyr
and Hadron ruined this for me
I want to cry. That's such a nice mg12.... Not even one serviceable perk or blessing.
hot zephyr
I guess efficiency isn't awful but it's far from good
long wharf
nah, it's awful
south dome
I am so fed up of trying to do pick n mix only to have someone shoot out the last target miliseconds before I finish my brainburst >.>
long wharf
ammo usage isn't an issue with the MG12
south dome
Anyone got any good strats?
long wharf
now, if FartShart fixes it to be more in line with the other lasguns, then that'll change
long wharf
Anyone got any good strats?
yeah, step 1 - find a premade for doing penances, stop trying to do it in pugs
you'll just give yourself an aneurism
mint heart
much fun grind, just kill me.
austere estuary
You're crazy
long wharf
yeah, I have a lot of fswords waiting to be upgraded
mint heart
Those are like the best I have
austere estuary
I've just picked up whatever deflector t2 comes up in the store and hoarded them away for when votives come
gray pendant
much fun grind, just kill me.
Pain
austere estuary
in the meantime I just use what good weapons I've got
mint heart
the other 20-30+ ones are just shit or have deflector and got some other shit
Even started to collect duellist sabers. copeing so hard
austere estuary
no way I'm gonna grind out plasteel for just hope of a specific thing on a specific weapon type like that
doesn't seem fun
long wharf
... it isn't
austere estuary
and if it's not fun
supple skiff
ah don't worry about crafting
austere estuary
I'm not doing it
mint heart
One thing that's noticeable is how strong slaughterer is.
supple skiff
they're collecting data right now so iit should be fixed this time next year
mint heart
Makes the weapon way better
long wharf
... you know what, this is the first night since the pre-order open beta that I just don't have it in me to run any missions for loot
split oxide
no way I'm gonna grind out plasteel for just hope of a specific thing on a speci...
GRINDING:
- if there was no 'item progression' and you already had max stats? would you stop playing?
- and it's PvE not PvP
austere estuary
I kidna like slaughterer, but think I prefer executor now
supple skiff
slaughterer FS is night and day
south dome
you'll just give yourself an aneurism
So that's what that feeling is.
austere estuary
GRINDING:
- if there was no 'item progression' and you already had max stats? ...
what?
supple skiff
kinda wish FS slaughterer had the longer duration like the power sword does
mint heart
slaughterer FS is night and day
I think I'm gonna upgrade that one blue slaugtherer fs and call it a day after that. So sick and tired of that shit.
long wharf
I guess I'll keep checking the store, just in case
supple skiff
meleeing a horde than swapping for a quick BB with plus ~70 percent dmg is neat
split oxide
what?
it was a though experiment (everyone was talking about RNG, grinding, progression)
- I was wondering if "doing a map" wasn't fun on it's own.
(I was thinking . well I play CSGO and it's the same map(without progression).. biut I forgot it was PvP and had sifferent 'goals')
supple skiff
an extra second would be nice
austere estuary
if it wasn't I wouldn't play
slow karma
Then pick up the plasteel anyway and use it
austere estuary
number go up is nice but I'm only going to engage in it if the actual gameplay is also fun
supple skiff
game is designed with loot progression in mind, full stop. Its not like left 4 dead
austere estuary
but given farming plasteel specifically means you're generally gonna spam out lower tier missions
that's not fun for me
slow karma
No, actually, it doesnt
austere estuary
so I don't
supple skiff
it can and will have an impact on enjoyment
austere estuary
plasteel per minute is gonna be way higher in fast low tier runs
slow karma
I think you're putting too much though into deliberately doing the thing
You're right you don't have to make a point of it
austere estuary
we're specifically talking about deliberately doing the thing though
slow karma
Yeah chimed in late.
austere estuary
like that's the actual thing I'm talking about
slow karma
But like, your phrasing made it seem like you just dont want plasteel at all and I was just like...what...?
supple skiff
my kingdom for more plasteel
austere estuary
just a crumb of plasteel
split oxide
but given farming plasteel specifically means you're generally gonna spam out lo...
ahh .. good point .. you can't focus on fun if you're always tinking you might be missing out on farming.
(I find I did the same thing - which is why we still see lvl30 in T1)
slow karma
Honestly I don't know how much more fun getting health shred by gunfire or a single shotgun blast really is so, you do you.
The game doesn't appreciably change past malice, it just throws more bullshit at you
austere estuary
as it is, plasteel comes, and I spend it after a bit if I get curious about what an item's upgrades might be
Malice is autopilot
slow karma
Yeah and Heresy is coin-flip
austere estuary
Heresy is pay attention, and Damnation is where I feel like I play
coin flip how?
slow karma
I pug my games
mint heart
At first it was fun to be honest, I grinded the other three classes to my satisfaction. Psyker seems to be impossible for me weapon pool way to diluted with shit guns.
slow karma
I don't have time to hope I don't get a shit team in a difficuly jump that means you can make half a mistake once in a hectic situation
That, for me, isn't fun.
mint heart
And the UI doesn't help too, when I'm opening my inventory I have to wait 2-3 seconds because of loading times
slow karma
I need breathing space. I run into enough snags in malice as it is
Plus my rig is weaksauce so...
austere estuary
I don't think it's that tight tbh 🤷 but then again I'm not fussed if it's a failed mission either
austere estuary
I think it's all a waste of time, imaginary items for imaginary space magician
but I have fun with the challenge
slow karma
If missions were snappier, I'd agree but they can be a bit of a commitment
wanton cove
Oh yah on 4 they are lengthy with pubs
austere estuary
If the team is good or bad doesn't really matter that much, just different dials
wanton cove
I think it matters to a lot of ppl
slow karma
Matters a lot to my non-carryin' ass lol
wanton cove
Not everyone is at the level of hard Carrie’s yet XD
austere estuary
Again, farming is not my focus at all, so for me the fun comes from the challenge and the amount of stuff going on
slow karma
I'm not gonna be that good at the game, not with my hardware capping my performance as it does now
austere estuary
I'm not hard carrying or anything like that
long wharf
the fun for me is seeing if certain weapon combinations work
wanton cove
Again, farming is not my focus at all, so for me the fun comes from the challeng...
Yeah I agree I like the challenge. When you start crusing through it gets so stale.
long wharf
i.e. doing build discovery
austere estuary
I'll also spend a long time in psykarium
long wharf
can't do that without a crafting system
austere estuary
seeing what makes some things tick
wanton cove
Oh man no I definitely feel like some pubs I’ve gotten need hard Carry
slow karma
But yeah I actually have more of a focus on the gearing side of the game. It's why I loved this and VT2
and why I play most loot-centric genres
split oxide
I was a n00b to VT and DT.. after lvl 15, I tried Malice.. people were unhappy with my presence.
slow karma
Like diablo-likes and such
austere estuary
Yeah I agree I like the challenge. When you start crusing through it gets so sta...
yeah if any game that's basically 99% about the gameplay becomes rote I start losing interest fast
slow karma
The gear chase is part of it for me but it has to come with some element of randomness so interesting combinations can crop up
austere estuary
I need something to experiment with or to improve at, or a social side, or all of the above
wanton cove
And the fact reds actually looked pretty cool
austere estuary
number go up is fun sprinkles on top
slow karma
Sometimes it can be too much but when the balance is right, it's all I can ever hope for
austere estuary
and yeah
wanton cove
This games loot rn is just a crapshoot
austere estuary
some randomness really helps a lot - grind as an excuse to play, rather than a reason for playing
that's where the shop fails since it doesn't really matter THAT much if you play
wet jacinth
wanton cove
Yeah just download that shop addon and you’re good
slow karma
Yeah see, I have no fuckin' idea why they went with THAT as our main source of gear
austere estuary
though I do keep running out of dockets hoarding all the blessings I might sometime want to mess with
slow karma
LIke what was wrong with VTs system?
austere estuary
and some other items just incase we can share to other classes or other changes etc etc
slow karma
I get they need to try new stuff but they're too sloppy a development company to get away with so many changes to a formula at once
long wharf
the lead designer at FartShart was very clear
mint heart
Won't ever download that addon. Same as I won't ever start dt just to look at the shop.
austere estuary
but what I really want is missions to reward gear, and to reward more gear for some kind of sub quests/golas during them
long wharf
they started over from scratch with Darktide "in order to be able to add new content more easily in the future"
slow karma
That doesn't imply they needed to make the gear acquisition system so dogwater
long wharf
it doesn't actually imply anything other than "they purposefully didn't learn from lessons learned on past products"
wet jacinth
Vermintide iirc. DLC weapons had to be crafted. couldn't be found in the chests at all
slow karma
In fact I cannot imagine why them starting over didn't just fascilitate them stapling VT's gear system to the game and calling it good.
austere estuary
wouldn't be surprised if we get other sources that make the shop items kind of starter to mid tier
which would be more like many other rpgs
slow karma
I wouldn't be surprised either but like
They really should have outlined a plan of action here
But no, that's giving them a bit too much credit, clearly
long wharf
because they wanted to do it differently
slow karma
Well they did it worse
long wharf
only FartShart knows the state of the crafting system before they ripped it out to start over
edgy finch
what does the Surge blessing do for the voidstrike staff (+2 shots on crit hit)
austere estuary
what I find most funny of all though, now having seen posts from years back getting shared, is how anyone who has played since vt1 could possibly be in any way surprised
slow karma
And they cannot justify anything to convince us this version of the gear grind is better
Like, again, I get wanting to try new things
long wharf
what I find most funny of all though, now having seen posts from years back gett...
definitely, I had VT2 vets telling me "here we go again" when Darktide released
slow karma
But the fact that playing a shop is how we get gear should have been a red flag somewhere
That's all I'm sayin
wet jacinth
long wharf
it just shows that FartShart doesn't have anyone working for them with any good game design sense at all
north cradle
Buy?
wet jacinth
depends if you're okay with 60% damage
otherwise eventually you can reroll the other stuff to what you like
north cradle
Well 60% Damage is like 8 points down?
raw breach
Aight so... what do I do with this? lol
long wharf
Aight so... what do I do with this? lol
you buy it
long wharf
because there might be a knife psyker build in a couple years
north cradle
Yeh you can save it for Backstab later
wet jacinth
everything 70s too
wet jacinth
does that extension show melks shit too?
austere estuary
yeah
north cradle
You can also see Credits vs Marks on the left side
austere estuary
and filters now
wet jacinth
crazy
austere estuary
it's really cool
north cradle
wet jacinth
it's eh
north cradle
Would be great on a Mk XII
austere estuary
man yeah
north cradle
But you can keep it for reblessing next year
austere estuary
can it get those both?
north cradle
Oh good point, maybe you might only be able to replace one Blessing with those Votive Blessings
raw breach
because there might be a knife psyker build in a couple years
Huffing so much copium 
By the time Knife Psyker becomes a thing, we might be able to reroll blessings
wet jacinth
Huffing so much copium <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
By the time Knife Psyk...
as if the people who stayed playing this game isn't already copium
long wharf
just maybe, gotta hold out hope somehow
wet jacinth
inhales some copium
long wharf
takes a pince of copium from my chain loop dispenser and snuffs it
wet jacinth
I'm already used to fartshart being slow as shit though
austere estuary
even 'enjoying video game x y or z' is a polarising thing now
north cradle
So this is my highest damage Force Sword equipped (not my Deflector)
wet jacinth
so it
long wharf
see, now the problem is I still need my WH40K fix
wet jacinth
it's eh to me
but I can see the newer players being hella based about every lil thing/(and big thing)
north cradle
If I can rebless the left Force Sword for Deflector, I'd say three damage points down ain't too bad
raw breach
as if the people who stayed playing this game isn't already copium
I have my shop page bookmarked and I check for news posts while I shitpost on discord to announce ||🇨 🇷 🇦 🇫 🇹 🇮 🇳 🇬 ||
wet jacinth
for now we inhale the copium
raw breach
for now we inhale the copium
hits inhaler ||🤡 ||
vagrant cedar
base game releases 2024 summer
long wharf
I could setup a webpage viewer for my Stream Deck on my simpit
wet jacinth
base game releases 2024 summer
you mean early access 2.0
vagrant cedar
you mean early access 2.0
with extra 5 hats if you pre-order today
north cradle
I Consecrated my new Force Sword and got T3 Executor, so not too bad.
vagrant cedar
I Consecrated my new Force Sword and got T3 Executor, so not too bad.
and then when red items come out, you can grind again
north cradle
200% All stats 
wet jacinth
depends if red items in darktide will be like vermintides red items
long wharf
you guys underestimate FartShart
boreal cave
red go fasta
north cradle
Red goes faster, that's right
wet jacinth
because imagine 100% modifiers/ lv4 perks/blessings
long wharf
reds will be 400 max modifiers (still random)
and only reds will randomly roll new tier 5 blessings
north cradle
I already forgot, are red items in VT2 max perks also?
cyan notch
yes
vagrant cedar
i'm pretty sure reds will be just as messed up as any eitehr
north cradle
Nice
cyan notch
but same power level
vagrant cedar
some how they will butcher it
north cradle
I knew the red items were always 300 Power at least
boreal cave
yup same potential power as orange item
long wharf
and the cash shop will sell machine spirit prayer psalms that are one-use only that raise the chance of an emperor's gift being red
not ensure you get a gift, though
boreal cave
but guarenteed top
long wharf
Time to check for a Damnation Assassination
there's a website for that now
bless the omnissiah for enabling us to not have to open the game
shy crag
haven't seen this blessing on a staff before
long wharf
only trauma can roll it
vagrant cedar
there's a website for that now
let me guess, 3rd party non official one?
austere estuary
rending is pretty okay if you're swapping to melee
north cradle
Show me this website
long wharf
let me guess, 3rd party non official one?
it's all 3rd party unofficial
vagrant cedar
it's all 3rd party unofficial
smh my head
north cradle
That's a lot of rending
mint heart
What do you guys think of claw swords?
austere estuary
can be very very useful in the right scenario or with the right blessings
shy crag
i feel like rending is a placebo at this stage
austere estuary
it's not
mint heart
Played these two with the surge on damn today. The L1->L2 of the catachan is pretty good. The heavy attack spam of the duelling sword is better for scabs and dregs.
austere estuary
it can very clearly be demonstrated
north cradle
You could say it's rendered useless to you
austere estuary
oh hooo
shy crag
i just cant say ive noticed a clear difference personally, when playing with something with and without rending, notihng obvious to my gameplay experience anyway. Not that I was being incredibly scientific about it though.
can get carried away in the moment during games, but you can clearly notice a difference playing with savage sweep and without or whatever for example.
austere estuary
so for example
with 6 rending from a rending shockwave
a 19 damage left click instead is 70 or so damage
vs carapace
for however long the rending buff lasts on me
it's anti-armor, but won't do anything for you vs most targets
atm the only carapace targets are crushers, mauler heads, and reaper shoulder pads
mint heart
Rending on duelling swords is very good.
austere estuary
I think
long wharf
welp, guess I could catch up on some manga
austere estuary
I think it can be useful vs flak in theory, but you'd need a weapon that does less than 100% vs flak in the first place to benefit
teal kite
is deflector good on force sword
teal kite
austere estuary
t3 too nice
teal kite
can it block a sniper lmao
teal kite
fair enough
austere estuary
think of snipers as the ranged equivalent of overheads vs blocks
cyan notch
I think it can be useful vs flak in theory, but you'd need a weapon that does le...
like ds
mint heart
can get carried away in the moment during games, but you can clearly notice a di...
If you have for example a duelling sword with uncanny strikes you will notice it in mixed hordes. Light attacks do like 50-60 dmg on weakspot against flak without rending. With rending and max stacks it suddenly does 110-120 dmg per hit.
raw breach
They haven't even finished designing crafting yet. They scrapped the old system because it was boring, started over, then launched the game without it being finished.
For all we know, they may completely rework or remove half the blessings in the game, which tbh would be a really smart move. Fewer choices that are actually meaningful and competitive feels better than 10 blessings where 1-2 actually do something or give real power gains
mint heart
For me it's rampage and uncanny
austere estuary
this is my executor stick
orchid venture
whats everyones favorite dueling sword?
austere estuary
unacanny strike on it I don't think is as good as for duelling
mint heart
MK V has most damage on heavy and a strong moveset and the longest dodge distance you can have in the game.
austere estuary
since fs a) doesn't hit that fast and b) second light attack is hell to get weakspot hit with and c) already has a better tool vs armor
mint heart
MK IV has the light attack overhead spam absolut easy to use. But less heavy attack damage then the MK V
orchid venture
I really want to like the Mk IV dueling sword, but it has this really weird hangup on the first heavy attack that happens far too often
austere estuary
my mk 5 is great stats but sadge blessing
cyan notch
nice
mint heart
MK II has a harder moveset but can chain light and heavies for the best horde clear of the three I would say. Heavy attacks on the other hand are the weakest of the bunch.
austere estuary
game kept giving me good duelling swords
mint heart
I'm using MK V since it can one shot headshot most scabs/dregs with the heavy weakspot hit
orchid venture
i haven't really gotten a Mk II with good stats yet
austere estuary
and never really feel like using them
then the emprah handed me a 505 orange mk5 as well, with 365 base, the pushiest duelling sword salesmen ever
floral solstice
is the mk 5 horrible for hordes though? haven't tried it yet
mint heart
The funny thing with the MK V is that Defence and Mobility is counted kinda strange. For example: dodge limit is at max and dodge distance almost.
You can pretty much have godrolled Mk V with base 320+
or even lower
austere estuary
capped at 15
mint heart
seems to have some kind of base already
austere estuary
ayeah 5% base iirc
mint heart
and even with missing cleave damage stat it's still cleaving just fine
austere estuary
the cleave spammable lights on the mk4 make it very good for building shred
like, really good
north cradle
this is my executor stick
What's the difference between +X Rending and X% Rending anyhow
austere estuary
the % tells you the truth directly, the flat number represents some % or other
north cradle
Lovely
north cradle
I love inconsistent tooltips
long wharf
ay, time to check the shops
austere estuary
who knows there could even be some weird interaction
mint heart
yay gimme another fs I can cry about
austere estuary
but on rending lvl3, where it instantly on the blast grants you +6 rending, you still can see you'll immediately do a lot more, then it'll drop a couple of times back to normal
long wharf
the flat rending number represents 5%
north cradle
Can you also check if a Damnation Assassination is up too if you're going to be ingame? Last one on my list
long wharf
so +4 rending is +20%
mint heart
Can you also check if a Damnation Assassination is up too if you're going to be ...
None for me
north cradle
Drat
austere estuary
anyone found any use for the duelling sword special?
hazy locust
north cradle
"Why are you dissatisfied with the progression system?"
☑️ I don't like the progression or upgrade system
I see the UI/UX manager is also in charge of the survey
austere estuary
gotta sneak around the players cleaning up the bodies
whenever they're not looking
mint heart
anyone found any use for the duelling sword special?
The poke staggers dogs of people and can interrupt ragers I believe
mint heart
Most specials are for staggering
shadow onyx
screwed because i started a psy few days ago
austere estuary
wow
great stats
never seen melk sell anything with high statline
lots of good blessings but stats?
shadow onyx
i cant have it
long wharf
screwed because i started a psy few days ago <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Sour Milk is trolling you
he knows you can't afford it
mint heart
No slaughterer no need
shadow onyx
mint heart
north cradle
tfw the highest rated item in the shop for me is a grey
lethal rain
What do ya'll think the best weapon for killing mutants that a psyker can get is?
austere estuary
most melee weapons are good for it
lethal rain
I feel like every time a run ends its because of mutants
north cradle
What do ya'll think the best weapon for killing mutants that a psyker can get is...
Force Sword with +Maniac
shadow onyx
i litteraly see one power sword for 5+ resets regular shop
austere estuary
fs is amazing
north cradle
Powered up heavy from Force Sword will kill a Mutant in two hits on Damnation I think
Should I stack Executor with +Melee Weak Spot Damage or keep rolling for Flak/Maniac?
north cradle
How long do those stacks last?
austere estuary
5s
can only assume they refresh since it wouldn't be enough otherwise
actually
north cradle
Not sure if I'd want Superiority over Executor personally. I don't get enough Elite kills with melee that I can recall
austere estuary
might not need them
I don't have maniac damage on my fs
and without the stacks he lives with just a little hp
north cradle
But yeh, having Executor, should I go for Melee Weak Spot Damage or keep rolling for Flak/Maniac?
north cradle
Neat
austere estuary
so imo weakspot is nice as a catchall
since you should be going for it anyway
2.3x at 80 I think, as I have 2.29x at 79
north cradle
I'm going to keep this Force Sword on me since it's my most powerful so far, but I'm going to Re-Bless it with Deflector to replace Superiority
Ya mine is 76%
north cradle
Damage seems to be its lowest, but the difference between 60% and 80% seems to be 5 damage points?
austere estuary
melee crit 🤷 what're ya gonna do but at least it has shred
north cradle
Oh I forgot about First Target too, which is also sitting pretty at 76%
austere estuary
yeah they all three bounce off each other nicely
north cradle
austere estuary
superiority and executor in the right circumstances though
north cradle
I don't know if I could pull that off on Damnation
Maybe against Scab Ragers and Shotgunners?
austere estuary
when you've got a small or medium pack
supple skiff
with those conditions the stacks really should last longer
austere estuary
yeah shotgunners let you dodge around them if you're already close
north cradle
If I get a powered heavy off, I think I immediately get three or four stacks from the repeated hits, right?
cyan notch
do you need to get kills with sword
wanton cove
Is this worth buying? It popped up randomly at the top of my shop
Ive like never used anything but my force sword lol
mint heart
do the repeated hits have to be on one target?
north cradle
Don't think so
mint heart
Shred has the same with crit on repeated hits
north cradle
Repeated Weak Spot Hit sounds pretty specific; it's even capitalised
mint heart
Does someone know in the case of shred?
austere estuary
shred can hit anything
supple skiff
fairly easy to test
north cradle
I'ma hit The Meat Grinder and see if it procs on one hit or if it needs 2+
austere estuary
and I can share some big fat juicy hidden workings
of both shred and executor
that make them both way stronger
I did the testing already
you can actually get all the stacks of shred in one hit, sort of
supple skiff
just shoot to headshot different pox walkers, if your damage moves you have your answer
austere estuary
the key thing is you need to be hitting with not your first swing in a chain
but your second
if you take a catachan mk1 with shred
swing for the air, then cleave a pack of 5
you will have 5 stacks
I sat tallying crits to check this
executor is similar, with the stipulation that the FIRST target hit must be a weakspot
again, second swing in combo
on FS you'll likely need to do two heavies though, at least, in total
this makes them both FAR easier to maintain - and makes the claw amazing for it both to proc it and for benefitting itself
executor is the biggest beneficiary of this though - since you can basically see a horde, swing as you approach once then load your heavy sweep into it, and at least get a few stacks
then decide if you want to gamble for more
mint heart
north cradle
I'm not sure if Executor is actually working
austere estuary
it is absolutely working
north cradle
Is it against the same target?
steel flame
Day 987: still waiting for a crafting system. hopium supplies are running dangerously low.
austere estuary
you don't even need the cleaved to be weakpoints - just the first target of a given swing
and in terms of bouncing between targets hitting one by one that also works
you cannot miss, and you cannot delay between swings
and you cannot have your first point of contact with a swing be a non-weakpoint
hot zephyr
20 minutes of rolling later...
north cradle
Okay now I see it working
neat summit
20 minutes of rolling later...
My favorite gameplay loop. Rerolling perks for an hour and a half
steel flame
ZAZY IS SICK OF RNG RULING HIS PROGRESSION
hot zephyr
Yeah, rolled +15% block eff like at least a dozen times
austere estuary
the worst part about rolling is having to wait when it chokes up
hot zephyr
I almost gave up and kept +25% to flak a few times
austere estuary
and takes a while to display a roll
neat summit
Flak damage isn’t bad to sit on
austere estuary
just incase
hot zephyr
Flak damage isn’t bad to sit on
It's not bad, but it doesn't change any damnation breakpoints for a CS
neat summit
F you’re right
austere estuary
I'm really keen to get executor t4 and unstable power at some point
Wonder how close that makes a dog 1 tap
orchid nest
I think you can reach poxwalker heavy 1 shot head with infested and a couple warp charges or something like that
orchid nest
I did when I tried it but you can also just have like the damage on cleaving blessing
it's been a while though
orchid nest
hmmm yeah
shadow onyx
My favorite gameplay loop. Rerolling perks for an hour and a half
when you feel playing a korean f2p game....but you actualy paid 40 bucks for it
austere estuary
55%+ peril also does the job
without any charges
0 peril needs 2 warp charges to get them, 1 charge is 295
for ref:
orchid nest
20 minutes of rolling later...
Oh I was talking about this chainsword
austere estuary
presumably swapping weakspot for 25 infested would mean 0 charges and 0 peril would still kill
OOOH lol
welp
this is my only chainsword
hot zephyr
I think you can reach poxwalker heavy 1 shot head with infested and a couple war...
Yeah, I was just in the grinder, heavy weakspot on a pox does 220 ish
orchid nest
yeah so infested+charges
hot zephyr
So you can get there with warp charges + dmg to infested
austere estuary
that's pretty sick for a chainsword to be able to one tap them
hot zephyr
I dunno how practical it is tho
hot zephyr
Assuming you have communion
austere estuary
so long as coherency yeah
hot zephyr
Some builds take cooldown over it
hot zephyr
I shall go test in real runs now, for science!!!!!!!!!
austere estuary
also like the benefit of constant toughness rolling with 1 on first feat
oooh
good luck
hot zephyr
later gators
austere estuary
hope it works out
brittle crest
after getting my psyker to 30, i went to play a diff class and forgot that ammo is a thing
bleak tulip
I mean you answered your own question there
dull haven
Blazing Spirit on surge would be cool
brittle crest
what's the modifier priority on the various staves?
austere estuary
seems like it can only be on trauma and void
bleak tulip
you could keep it to extract the blessings I guess whenever that comes out
dull haven
keep for blessings at least if you have it
No don't have it a contract weapon
austere estuary
what's the modifier priority on the various staves?
p much warp res dump stat always
dull haven
Not worth a pick up to me but lloks cool
brittle crest
this was my "ding 30" staff, seems decent? not 350 base tho
austere estuary
for trauma you just want everything but warp res is meaningless, for purg similar except burn at 76+ is v important and cloud as high as possible
brittle crest
warp res def the dup stat on it
dull haven
What perk should I go for on my surge other then range damage elites
Gonna get a 4 perk on it
austere estuary
for surge I don't know too much, but the crit bonus is pretty respectable looking at the details page
dull haven
Just don't know which I should do
bleak tulip
flak prob
orchid nest
flak
brittle crest
for surge I don't know too much, but the crit bonus is pretty respectable lookin...
you think that staff i have is worth upgrading to purp? or just placeholder for now
bleak tulip
flak is just kind of the best perk on all staves tbh
dull haven
4 Flak & 4 unarmoured?
bleak tulip
yeah sure
bleak tulip
8% is pretty lackluster
orchid nest
sucks to roll off a 4 but unarmored doesn't do much on surge
dull haven
Yeah
bleak tulip
yeah... thats probably right
orchid nest
and at least the elites will stack with flak to really hurt maulers and armored ragers
ornate hamlet
What's the opposite of synergy for these blessings?
austere estuary
lmao
north cradle
Trying to get Going Out With a Bang is way harder than it should be
long wharf
The last 4 days I've only gotten shit on the contract shop
only 4 days? oh you sweet summer child
Sour Milk shits on us all
he is a veritable font of shit, he is the tub girl, and we, we are all of us the tub.
and Darktide is both bathroom and cameraman
cyan notch
oddly specific fantasy
long wharf
it's not my fantasy
long wharf
and when he's preparing the weekly contracts for us, he's meatspin, too
placid sorrel
unstable power... how significant is 4% power or even 5%
viscid pelican
Damn, these horrors really are comprehensible
humble plume
can i get yall's opinions on whether i should buy this?
bronze seal
Left or right?
humble plume
can i get yall's opinions on whether i should buy this?
and this too
orchid venture
probably left
cyan notch
can i get yall's opinions on whether i should buy this?
no charge rate kinda low
humble plume
no charge rate kinda low
hmm okay, what about this?
cyan notch
also blessings are pretty bad
cyan notch
hmm okay, what about this?
i wouldnt the curio thing kinda sucks
humble plume
what do i wanna look for in a curio as a psyker?
orchid venture
curio as a reward is really bad
cyan notch
people usually go toughness or health with one wound
orchid venture
gunner resistance is ok, mostly all I look for is as much health as possible, but I do like using +1 wound
orchid venture
i mean, it depends on how much you're going down
if you end up going down more often than others, 2 wounds is fine
orchid venture
but the better you are, the less wounds you want
to the point where high tier players run 0 wounds
humble plume
to the point where high tier players run 0 wounds
ah yeah i saw a streamer with no wounds
orchid venture
more power to you i guess
humble plume
what are yall's opinions on toughness regen?
orchid venture
toughness regen might be bugged rn
i heard someone that had 60% and it wasn't any faster
orchid nest
what are yall's opinions on toughness regen?
it's not really clear if it's working at all right now and even then doesn't work as you'd expect most likely
humble plume
oof alright, fair enough
lastly, i really like trauma force gameplay
what blessings do i want on it?
orchid venture
trauma is cool, i like it quite a bit even though it's range is pretty limited. I think mostly what you'd look for is Warp Nexus
but Warp Nexus and Blazing Spirit could be funny
Terrifying Barrage would be decent though
humble plume
trauma is cool, i like it quite a bit even though it's range is pretty limited. ...
yeah i feel like there's more skill expression in it compared to the other staves
orchid venture
theres more skill expression, but it does cost alot for the secondary, and the range isn't very far. extremely powerful defensive tool though
neat summit
Same. More health and toughness is the bomb.
orchid venture
I've even thrown a crusher into a bottomless pit with it, very fun to use when it's limitations dont hinder it
stray pond
One 12% corruption resistance can be a game changer unironically
orchid venture
though, if you run Quietude with trauma, it's a really quick way to get toughness back
humble plume
though, if you run Quietude with trauma, it's a really quick way to get toughnes...
because i'll be quelling my peril a lot?
orchid venture
yeah, but like, if you get caught out by a stray shot, you can build alot of peril really quickly so you can quell it behind cover
long wharf
quietude with anything is a good way to gain toughness
as a psyker you should be constantly generating and quelling peril
humble plume
i might try that, i've been running essence harvest
orchid venture
though, i've been trying to see it, I dont actually think passive quelling counts towards quietude
orchid nest
it does
neat summit
Too bad fat shark doesn’t do little icons to tell us when those things trigger
Add it to the list
orchid venture
it does in Vermintide 2, so maybe it's just bugged right now
long wharf
it does in Vermintide 2, so maybe it's just bugged right now
HAAAAAAA HAAH haaaaa haa hooooo whew hoo boy that was good
humble plume
looks like i missed out on a lot of good things on vermintide
darktide's my first warhammer game
long wharf
Darktide is a complete start from scratch from Vermintide 1/2
FartShart didn't want to risk reusing good ideas
so they forgot everything to start over, to include how to program with any sense
humble plume
prolly because they got acquired by tencent 2 years ago
everything's just about $$$ now
long wharf
I'm starting to doubt it
the cash shop is definitely Tencent influence, but the lead designer at FartShart has made it clear they intended to start over
orchid nest
you mean like the incredibly intuitive warp nexus tiers of - 30, 50, 97, 97, and the 5th one not existing
I think I got those first 2 right at least
neat summit
FartShart didn't want to risk reusing good ideas
Why reuse good ideas when you can take a giga gamble on NEW ideas!!
INNOVATION
long wharf
yep, Darktide is the poster child for "change for change's sake"
you can get lucky, but most often it's a shitshow
neat summit
I wonder if they are taking money from universities studying game psychology to introduce wild new ideas at a stunning pace or if they are sincerely out of touch with reality
orchid venture
I'm sure they'll fix it eventually, but I do think they could benefit Massively if they were more transparent about what they were doing.
long wharf
transparency isn't the issue
they got all sorts of useful feedback during the closed beta that they straight ignored
orchid venture
what kind of feedback? i haven't actually looked at the official forums
long wharf
everything we've been complaining about with mission selection existed in the closed beta
orchid venture
i just assumed it would be the usual 'extremely normal gamer' type of stuff
long wharf
blessings were screwed up then, too
you want to know why the community blew up on release day?
because with all the feedback FartShart gained from both beta periods, the only thing to work flawlessly on release was the brand new cash shop
clear heath
The game was also crashing more on release day
long wharf
oh yeah, that too
clear heath
and that mess with the raytracing settings being always enabled
No idea how they managed to make the game worse on launch compared to the open beta but they managed
cyan notch
it does in Vermintide 2, so maybe it's just bugged right now
? vt2 has quietitude?
orchid venture
im certain fixing the game wouldn't be as simple as "we forgot to flip the switch from Game Bad to Game Good, sorry.", but it HAS been a week or three with no word on what's exactly happening
orchid venture
? vt2 has quietitude?
that was in reference to the little icons appearing for buffs
long wharf
ho boy
hot zephyr
I mean, the game launched now ~6 weeks ago, and we know 2 of those weeks was straight up holiday season. That's basically like 20 work days.
long wharf
the biggest problem with the game... is the code.
I don't mean that in a cheeky way, I mean that from a software engineering perspective
hot zephyr
So I'm not shocked at all we've heard nothing
long wharf
it is hands down the hackiest Lua I have ever seen
so many attempts to fake object oriented behavior
with none of the benefits of using an actual programming language designed for OOP
orchid venture
yeah, I'd expect that they're getting back into the roll of it at the moment, and to expect something new soon
long wharf
I wouldn't
the survey they put out proves that they're actually trying to be more cautious
which very likely means longer delay on the next patch
hopefully that means they're serious about fixing things, but only they know for sure
orchid venture
i didn't hear about a survey
clear heath
Haven't seen the survey either. Where do i find it?
orchid nest
yeah they had an ogryn write up a survey for the launcher
long wharf
the launcher has a button
clear heath
oh i see
long wharf
honestly, the survey reads like it could have applied to Vermintide 2
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it was adapted from a VT2 survey
cyan notch
doesnt matter if it was or wasnt anyway
elfin roost
The main hope is that it turns out they simply want the next updates they release to actually improve the game as much as they can
Not just more cosmetics to be disappointed in someone buying
orchid nest
if the schedule holds out the same the cash shop should auto update tomorrow again I think so people are gonna be even more upset
orchid venture
i actually wana see more cosmetics
they look nice
and I'm still waiting for the massive chained up book from the Preacher video
elfin roost
They look nice but game can be nicer
orchid venture
i want a big ass book so bad
orchid nest
yeah I just wish they went about it differently. they launched with the predatory currency amounts where you always have to buy more. it's obvious the mourningstar exists vs the old model to sell more cosmetics, seeing people with them. you have to run past the cash shop to check the armoury.
orchid venture
I also want less toilet bowls for psyker to wear
i mean, Destiny 2 does the same shit
cyan notch
i dont mind the cosmetics shop tbh i dont even know when it resets and dont think anything about it when im in the hub
elfin roost
yeah I just wish they went about it differently. they launched with the predator...
Sad thing is this would almost be forgivable if it wasnt on launch 
orchid venture
I might get some stuff sometime, but I want to see everything available
elfin roost
Like day 1 they put this thing in so they could prey on the most people
orchid nest
yeah for sure. I don't mind it overall I suppose, I like buying cosmetics in games. but if you adopt the liveservice game model I'm going to expect you to give it the same attention as any liveservice game
elfin roost
I like the game and trust the devs enough to fix the game to pay them like 5 bucks extra but still
orchid venture
again, Destiny 2 had a cash shop day 1 as well, I dont recall alot of outcry because of it, but I wasn't really looking for it
clear heath
I don't really care that much either, but it is a bad look when the only noticeable difference between open beta and launch was the cash shop, and more frequent crashing/performance issues
orchid nest
I think it's less the day 1 cash shop and more like it felt like the only thing complete and working about the game. my buddy with a modern system has hundreds of crash logs from around that time in his folder
elfin roost
I havent got one with a mid pc though, which is odd
orchid nest
I had very few with my mid-old pc too, all my friends with up to date ones were crashing a lot though
elfin roost
Game likely was in development for a while so its not optimized for current systems maybe?
clear heath
Most of the crashes i've had were around day 1 of release. Didn't really crash much in the beta or recently
orchid venture
my pc is like, exactly the recommended specs, but I've crashed my fair share of times
elfin roost
Well fartshark doesnt know how their own systems work tbf 🤷♂️
orchid venture
I'd hope they knew how they worked, they built them
elfin roost
Lol
This is fatshark
Would not be surprised if the reason they keep succeeding is entirely luck
orchid venture
i do imagine if their next update didn't fix anything in the game, people would get pretty furious
orchid nest
well they know what they are doing IP wise at least. I dunno about you guys but if this was some random IP and not warhammer I would have probably refunded during the pre order beta
halcyon creek
Where Fatshark is succeeding, is the gameplay and weapons
elfin roost
Everything works except their business model
cyan notch
gameplay is kinda garbage at times
elfin roost
"Play literally forever and constantly check out our god awful pricing systems"
cyan notch
looking at ranged combat
halcyon creek
And their business model is the one thing they probably don’t have the corporate leverage to change 😔
cyan notch
and also melee combat with 700 things doing running sliding attacks
neat summit
And their business model is the one thing they probably don’t have the corporate...
yeah investors not in it for the passion of the game wouldn't be down for them to nuke their largest revenue generator
orchid venture
if things are doing running sliding attacks I think you're fucking up
the ranged combat is pretty brutal though, i agree
orchid nest
and also melee combat with 700 things doing running sliding attacks
every trash mob is like one of the troll extra long boss attack animations in a souls game to throw you off
cyan notch
if things are doing running sliding attacks I think you're fucking up
i think not
orchid venture
oh sorry, i forgot you cant fuck up ever
cyan notch
how is it my fault when they are spamming that when they appear
long wharf
don't take Blooddrunk seriously, he only ever plays for fun in damnation pugs
doesn't care about how the run goes, either
cyan notch
i dont think the answer is that simple either how can you definitively say "oh if they are doing this therefore you are 100% fucking up"
is it that black and white whereby enemy does this move therefore you did something wrong
orchid venture
well, i guess that could be my fault too. I'm thinking of a specific animation that enemies can do where they like, ice skate towards you with their weapon ready, and that one barely ever misses
but they only do that one when you're dodging away from them alot
but they do have tracking attacks besides that
orchid nest
yeah I'm not sure how that is messing up, most of them seem to have one so far reaching that you can dodge slide backwards 2 times and still be in range of it. definitely weird compared to vt2
only mauler felt like that in vt2 I guess
or chaos warrior
but you dodge to the side on those of course. it gets obnoxious when it's like 20 poxwalkers doing it though
cyan notch
sometimes i walk up to a group of dreg bruisers and 3 of them immediately start raising their clubs and start sliding towards me from a fair distance away
they dont even do their run
they just straight up start sliding
orchid venture
it has been a bit of a learning process for how the combat works compared to vermintide, i find myself pushing significantly more than I had to in VT2. normally I could just dodge dance through everything
i dunno, normally enemies shouldn't be doing that, but theres definitely bugs with certain enemies
like how most dreg enemies are completely unaffected by suppression
yknow, im feelin a little saucy. im gonna use a trauma staff in a heresy run
frank fulcrum
what is the best staff?
i'm really enjoying the surge staff but the ability to annihilate small groups with the trauma is nice
hot zephyr
what is the best staff?
They are all different playstyles, so it's less which is best and more "which is best for you"
untold surge
Haven't been paying attention to the game for a few weeks, has pskyer been changed enough for them to be be more than just worse veteran?
wet belfry
Atleast the worst one is trauma
half iron
so true bestie
floral solstice
surge enjoyer for life
hot zephyr
Haven't been paying attention to the game for a few weeks, has pskyer been chang...
Nothing has changed for psyker since launch except a few bugs/glitches were discovered
And they changed 1 feat slightly
floral solstice
All I need is for my psyker to shout "witness your doom" while using surge
Or idk add that to a future subclass
elfin roost
Probably one designed around surge as psykinetic seems to love purge
floral solstice
sick solar
https://youtu.be/aKOHKzhcTzY
Thank you. I needed that.
orchid venture
damn, chance to get the monstrosity penance, but the ogryn didn't know they could block in the corner and be safe
oh well, i still got like 30 missions until I've done 100
floral solstice
This is fine.
Also I like how one guy doesn't destroy the grim in all this
Along with all our lives yeah
Can't see in the screenshot but there were like dozens of regular dreg shooters up ahead too
And a horde came
...
floral solstice
So damnation is easy huh? Fuck you -FS probably
cyan notch
the boss triggers in this game dont give a shit if you already triggered one just before
they just spawn that shit back to back
wet jacinth
So damnation is easy huh? Fuck you -FS probably
Ain't say anything bout easy. But fun? Yes
cyan notch
in vt2 u were guaranteed one boss trigger skip in the next area after killing one
floral solstice
Ain't say anything bout easy. But fun? Yes
Fair. It's not like this happens regularly and it's hilarious when random shit like this happens
With that said, i closed the game and i will now play soulstorm instead
wet jacinth
VT2 iirc its 2. Excluding guaranteed ones depending on the map spawns.
floral solstice
was that on a previous game we played lol
if that game had two plague ogryns instead that wouldn't be a problem
i meant on my screenshot
floral solstice
you should've seen the pugs during the holidays
i wiped more than i won in t4-t5
pale basalt
I know lol, fomented my alchoholism
floral solstice
so that's why you were asking me to join
everything went smoothly after at least
not counting my lags and dc's
devout belfry
I know lol, fomented my alchoholism
Alcohol makes the worst parts of this game entertaining.
I highly recommend trying to kill your teammates with barrels.
devout belfry
https://tenor.com/view/drunksteve-iamtheliquor-gif-9665644
His soul rests with the Emperor now.
floral solstice
i tried griefing my teammate with a barrel on the vigil station last area
he ended up on the platform below instead of falling to his death
devout belfry
My record is a triple kill with one barrel. Including myself >_>
It's how we keep malice runs fun lol
I've also managed to get bounced off three barrels on the bridge near the power cells. There was one in each corner lol
I really need to edit this into a YouTube video. I have so many hilarious clips.
Everything is possible. Ask for that in the survey.
Probably get that before crafting.
cyan notch
will i reach 30k before crafting is finished stay tuned
wet belfry
What are actual tips for dealing with hounds?
I feel like their the one enemy in this game that i cannot deal with consistently
floral solstice
psyker only?
surge deals with hounds easily with stun then follow up with blasts or melee
or just push, more consistent than dodging
wet belfry
Ideally i need to be able to solo kill them as much as possible
forest coral
light attack swing spam as they jump at you generally pushes them off if u dont have a staff up at a good time
floral solstice
what setup do you have on psyker wilmer
wet belfry
Dueling sword - purgatus
floral solstice
oh you can also lmb with purgatus to stagger the hound and kill it with melee
forest coral
purgatus can stagger the hound easily
wet belfry
Just the normal attack?
floral solstice
yes sir
floral solstice
just to avoid confusion, im not talking about the staff melee
cyan notch
What are actual tips for dealing with hounds?
floral solstice
i said melee because it's typically easier to kill hounds with melee in terms of damaging it at least
but with "normal attacks" i meant the staff's short burst
idk if hounds have some form of ranged resistance, think ive read it somewhere
cyan notch
basically put any object between you and the dog and it wont leap at you it will try to go around until it can have a straight line to you then at close range you can push and kill it easily
floral solstice
basically put any object between you and the dog and it wont leap at you it will...
hides behind ogryn
tawny nacelle
steel egret
will i reach 30k before crafting is finished stay tuned
Yes.
shadow onyx
nice starter?
soft dagger
Only moment dogs are a.pain is in combo with other trappers or coming through a horde. Sometimes I'm having too much fun killing the horrible that I forget to switch to my block. 😋
orchid venture
yeah its a fine void staff, but if you can get Transfer Peril it's gamechanging for void
fringe robin
Hey folks, sorry if this has been asked before, but what are the ideal perks and blessings for a surge staff?
I'm looking around and there seem to be a lot of mixed answers, but I still wanted to get everyones opinions
orchid nest
flak, carapace, and crit are all good for it. work to the strengths of the staff basically
warp nexus for blessing
unyielding is alright too if it happens to be there but I wouldn't roll for it
fringe robin
thank you, appreciate it
thorny crypt
i want new costumes
orchid venture
I heard there might be more tomorrow
sudden trellis
huh? I think the psyker's the most dripped out class
I want the Dawn or War 1 crazy granddad psyker outfit..
frank hazel
I love the one labelled "Psi" something and use that the most atm
deft fiber
I heard there might be more tomorrow
If we get rotation right, it should be today. But whatever, let's the fix game at first before you actually put more money into it
sudden trellis
agreed. splendid avatar, by the way.
barren cloud
deft fiber
Blessings very meh i'd say.
wet belfry
I wouldnt get it
zealous lily
anyone know good missions to try Going Out w/ a Bang on?
deft fiber
High intensity i guess.
quick plover
The number of elites isn't that high, it's just a matter of getting them together and low but not getting killed before you can
Co-ordinate for it, even with pubs
Suiciding is a detriment already, might as well ask for some help and pray you get good rands
west galleon
Voidstrike and the surge staff are the only 2 i can stomach to use
The rest just feels like giving myself an even bigger handicap than just taking a staff
frank hazel
I like the purgator but it's very niche imo
deft fiber
wdym niche? Melt mixed hordes except crashers and bulwaks, have a fine CC on primary attack.
frank hazel
I prefer the instant damage the other two bring and purg eats peril quickly
west galleon
Its nice and i do enjoy burning living things, but what turns me off from that is the range
frank hazel
Yeah that too
west galleon
Its something that can be worked around but i am petty like that
Atleast i will be petty over that stuff until i dont feel like i can just equip a scout lasgun and do a better job while not using the stuff exclusive for psyker...
100+ shots with crit blessing go pewpewpewpewpew
whole wharf
I've found running warp battery with the warp resistance per warp charge to be very effective with the purgatus.
Not to mention warp battery benefits Ascendent Blaze too, so it's a win win.
Surge staff though? Chef's kiss.
frank hazel
They all have their place ofc I just adore voidstrike
whole wharf
Oh yeah, no doubt, voidstrike with max damage stacks, also incredible.
Heresy and higher just feels like the need for heavy CC is much more necessary however.
So many damn crushers, maulers, bulwarks and whatnot that just eat those fully charged shots like their just a measly snack.
idle bay
Hardest part of returning to Psyker after playing Ogryn for a week - is you have to remember that you actually need to block more often 🙂
And that you can kill a Bulwark in a single axe chop 🙂 After full zzaap of course
sudden trellis
block? just for hound shoving
hot zephyr
So, I managed an interesting "build" I tested with some runs. I wanted to test elements of the typical Purgatus build, but while using an Accatran VId Lasgun as horde clear instead of the Purgatus staff. Build was 3/2/1/1/1/2, and I was genuinely surprised by the results. Losing Kinetic Flayer and KB didn't really change much at all, and having 6 charges + AB + the Accatran just allowed me massive horde control to thin out to just the elites for my team, which were promptly nuked by our Veteran.
Overall, the lasgun version isn't "better", it just makes some interesting trade-offs, you have a lot more range with the lasgun so you don't get bogged down by gunners/open-areas as much, but you do obviously sacrifice the ability to take down ogryn enemies like reapers, crushers, bulwarks as easily. I'd say fighting a BoN it came out pretty even, weakspot hits from the las did roughly similar damage to stacks of soulblaze.
I think it warrants more testing, but it did provide some variety in gameplay with some neat quirks to discover.
lament moon
is this worth buying ?
wet belfry
Your low level so it doesnt matter to much.
Would i call the weapon good? No. But you likely wont have to many actual good weapons by that point either way.
Tldr. Just go with your instincts. Do you want to try a dueling sword?
lament moon
no xD
sudden trellis
So, I managed an interesting "build" I tested with some runs. I wanted to test e...
Did you try it with the infernus accatran, also?
as in, the one with burn applying blessing
tawdry shell
The Pysker Experiencehttps://outplayed.tv/media/r2EdPV
wet belfry
The Pysker Experiencehttps://outplayed.tv/media/r2EdPV
Your dying actions were honorable sibling.
tawdry shell
fucking flew into narnia then died from fall damage
wet belfry
You lighted an enemy for the veteran to shot.
tawdry shell
what are the chances for these things to happen
ALL AT ONCE
and for it to end so...sadly but somewhat beautiful
Flew and died
stuck basalt
reason ppl quit this game , shit dev stupid joke
idle bay
reason ppl quit this game , shit dev stupid joke
Ah... that one. It's actually useful for very limited tricks
stuck basalt
good trick to make ppl quit
steel egret
reason ppl quit this game , shit dev stupid joke
Along with terrifying barrage my top picked blessings.
and please dont come tell me Terrifying barrage is good, its okay, but I would prefer to have that warp nexus or warp flurry sometimes.