#psyker-class

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austere estuary
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wait

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t3

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nm LUL

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NOT TODAY, MELK

wheat quartz
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how long do the stacks last, indefinite until you miss a swing?

left basin
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yo uh

random wolf
cobalt phoenix
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this worth purchasing from melk?

left basin
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is there a list of bless that are shared

left basin
austere estuary
wheat quartz
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no

austere estuary
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if it was a regular store maybe

cobalt phoenix
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damn

austere estuary
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but not for marks

cobalt phoenix
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I still don't have a good flame staff

cobalt phoenix
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I actually have a hojillion marks and 0 diamantine

austere estuary
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until you don't hit weakspot quickly after last hit

ripe gazelle
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did i pick a bad class as my first

austere estuary
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no

wheat quartz
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so if you stack it up on some poxwalkers and switch over to purgatus, it'll last until you pull out your sword again for some reason and then actually attack with it, in theory

stray pond
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No, Psyker probably boasts the fastest improvement speed at the game, at least imo

austere estuary
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for purgatus, a force sword or dagger with executor + shred is very very strong

left basin
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fastest improvement?

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wym

stray pond
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Yeah if you get good at the game with the squishiest and weakest class all the others are gonna be way easier

long wharf
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ehhh, shred isn't that strong

stray pond
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Psyker is still good even if it's the weakest class

austere estuary
stray pond
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I definitely miss the satisfaction of brain bursting on my Zealot...

left basin
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i wanna be a critker 😠

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gimme crooshin

wheat quartz
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then, I should use all my melkcoins on this thing, huh

austere estuary
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the double stacks on it are a massive deal

left basin
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so i can gucci gang the boss at my leisure

long wharf
austere estuary
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and otherwise it just depends on the weapon's crit values

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but it's pretty much always strong

left basin
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wym

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shred

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purg

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huhhh

austere estuary
long wharf
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a shame this rolled shit Shred, then

stray pond
left basin
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wait are ALL blessings shared?

wheat quartz
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ave imperator, time to break the bank

austere estuary
random wolf
long wharf
austere estuary
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the very strongest ones don't get shared

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decimator for example

left basin
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so uh

austere estuary
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or if they're very strong and are shared, they'll have a very short duration

covert valve
left basin
austere estuary
left basin
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so i just grab this on a stat stick and go poorg all over my enemies?

austere estuary
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hit 6 times without missing in quick succession, and it's active till you swing again

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just be careful not to be too overzealous in de-activating it

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like sometimes you just gotta give it up for a while to survive

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executor is even harder to avoid that mindset with since it's a much bigger pain to setup

long wharf
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I have 6 fswords in my inventory that are above 375 modifier rating

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correction, 5 above 372

left basin
# left basin

do i grab dis on a stat stick and just ignore melee?

cloud heron
long wharf
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no thanks

left basin
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i have a morb nexus on my poorg, soo

austere estuary
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you need to melee when you need to melee

left basin
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i hit turbo critz like a moron?

forest coral
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does anyone run combat knife for its mobility/ armor pierce? Im thinking of going purgatos staff with it in higher difficulties

ripe gazelle
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game was built off a 100% melee predecessor

left basin
long wharf
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there's no reason for a psyker to use the combat knife

west stream
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Someone has a build for it somewhere

long wharf
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I guarantee it's not a "build"

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someone is just using a knife

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and accepting that it's for funsies and not serious play

cyan notch
silk flax
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Waiting on nerfssssss......

long wharf
rocky cedar
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WTF

long wharf
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you could get, like, 10 full weapon upgrades out of that.

rocky cedar
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Give

silk flax
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JUST WAITING FS NERF THE COSTS

kindred trail
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I know that's some unimportant info, but congrat me - I just done pick'n'mix at last πŸ˜„

silk flax
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Congrats

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got the goggles?

kindred trail
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nope, mostronum's next

stoic tendon
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best staff for damnation?

kindred trail
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surge/purgatus

stoic tendon
long wharf
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interesting

kindred trail
manic needle
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Voidstrike will work fine as long as you have decent stats

fast swan
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voidneeds a fat 25% damage buff tyo make it usable in damnation

long wharf
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so, the fsword code takes the base trait buff template for shred

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which has a conditional stat buff func of ConditionalFunctions.is_item_slot_wielded

left basin
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should i bother to upgrade this?

long wharf
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yes

manic needle
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Wow a Surge Blessing

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Congrats

kindred trail
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330 is low imo. I'd look for something better

manic needle
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The stats are fine. Charge rate is a bit low but workable

long wharf
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you'd be dumb for doing so

manic needle
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Not going to find Surge blessing often

left basin
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should i look for a specific melee blessing for it then?

manic needle
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Really hoping to test Surge/nexus on a void eventually

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But that means getting surge first

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Honestly with high warp resist/charge rate that staff is pretty well suited for that type of build

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Not sure itd be better than Transfer Peril though

long wharf
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you still want Transfer Peril

forest coral
manic needle
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Knowing Blooddrunk he would say yes

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Pretty sure he runs Mk. 5 DS still?

cyan notch
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when i use ds yea

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but its not fantastic vs carapace either

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antax is probably the best all rounder

forest coral
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gotcha

left basin
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so uh

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is there a list of blessings that are shared anywhere

manic needle
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I use gameslantern but it's not a completely perfect archive

austere estuary
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this seems like a fun combo for autogun

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though sadly

cyan notch
shadow onyx
austere estuary
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good god

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how can you not cave in and roll on upgrades

cyan notch
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nothing to upgrade maybe

austere estuary
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unpossible if you've played enough to acquire that much

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unless disregarding things that are plenty good but not like 99.9999% perfect

manic needle
frank hazel
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I can never remember which staff does what

left basin
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plasteel 😦

manic needle
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RIP

left basin
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so uh

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does crooshin still spawn on autoguns?

cyan notch
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im sitting at this personally and dont have anything im dying to upgrade or can wait till a nerf to upgrading costs comes

manic needle
frank hazel
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Ohh thank you. I love voidstrike and trauma a lot.

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I haven't tried purgatus yet and surge I felt was a bit underwhelming

austere estuary
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surge is a bit dull for me, I know some people really love it

wheat quartz
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purgatus is the Emperor's Mercy, grant it liberally to all the heretics, it never runs out and there is always more

rocky cedar
solid wolf
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I have never seen this blessing on a FS. 1 shot potential on ogryn elites? πŸ€”

cyan notch
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bruhhhhhhh

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wtf

manic needle
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Everyone's getting the ultra-rare blessings today

rocky cedar
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Unfortunately

cyan notch
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WHY ISNT THAT MINE

solid wolf
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Awww

cyan notch
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383 total too btw

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just buy it immediately

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1775 melkbucks only too

rocky cedar
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I suppose if you have a Psyker friend spamming surge you could just chain special attacks on a series of elites

long wharf
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Bloodthirsty lasts for 5 seconds

manic needle
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Stat total comes to 379

solid wolf
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I did buy for sure. Just waiting for crafting to come out πŸ™„

manic needle
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IDK why it glitches to above 380 sometimes

austere estuary
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it's due to rounding

manic needle
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My voidstrike did the exact same thing when I consecrated

long wharf
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because FartShart devs are literally incompetent

austere estuary
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πŸ‘Ά

rocky cedar
long wharf
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let me double check

rocky cedar
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Cause if it was 5 seconds of 100% crit rate...

cyan notch
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it is

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u just go crazy for 5s

rocky cedar
austere estuary
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seems like a nice pair for blazing soul

rocky cedar
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Yeah for sure

austere estuary
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but overall I don't know if I think it's that crazy

long wharf
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I bet it can be

long wharf
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and I'm betting it'll make the fsword an alternately viable soulblaze weapon

rocky cedar
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You have to be so incredibly lucky to have both those blessings at once though

cyan notch
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slaughterer is probably more effective if you wanna shred hordes

austere estuary
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Charged attack is very slow, and a big commit, if you're doing that every 5s to get the buff, you've probably only really just about clawed back the damage you lost by doing it, unless you're only on a single target like a boss

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slaughterer, shred, executor will almost certainly make your overall damage output higher, bloodthirsty lets you burst a target hard though

rocky cedar
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Can FS push attack crit? Could you use that to apply masses of soul blaze?

austere estuary
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can't crit

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0 damage, no number even

rocky cedar
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Makes sense

vapid marsh
manic needle
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The FS push counterattack deals 1-2 damage

long wharf
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yeah, Bloodthirsty inherits the base weapon guaranteed melee crit on activated kill buff

austere estuary
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is that a 12 minute video to say cash shop bad and cosmetics clipping

long wharf
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there's no code for removing buff after hit, just a lifetime for the buff

brittle crest
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this one worth it? Or is the base too low (starting to see higher ones as I get closer to 30, currently 27 I think)

austere estuary
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saved 12 minutes of my life phew

glad tulip
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@austere estuary
Warp flurry affects purg or nah?

long wharf
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now you owe me 12 minutes of your life

manic needle
long wharf
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warp flurry is a broken blessing

glad tulip
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so basically useless?

long wharf
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broken in that the timeframe to take advantage of it makes it useless

austere estuary
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warp flurry is great on voidstriike

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works perfectly on it and only it afaik

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I know it doesn't work on surge

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on trauma it's hard to gauge, but it's not something you'd want even if it does work on trauma since you're cast-quell repeating

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and I think purg has the same problem as surge

glad tulip
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as long as it's not a charged missile, that can be charged again after firing without going into "shooting" animation after releasing - it's useless?

brittle crest
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i'm so close to 30 T_T, everyone says the class changes so much once you hit 30.. i'm excited to experience that

manic needle
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Thats about the size of it yeah @glad tulip

austere estuary
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that question phrasing hurts my brain, sorry I'm not following

brittle crest
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F

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i feel like i've read the last talent row is pretty big

austere estuary
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it's pretty big, especially for purgatus

long wharf
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it's big, but the class doesn't start playing differently

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that's the biggest problem with psyker - none of its mechanics really work well or well together

manic needle
austere estuary
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right okay

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yeah p much

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my guess is they'll change it to make it last longer on purg and surge so it's roughly equivalent to void

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but if they make it even better hey that'd be grand

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as is on void it's kind of massive if you consider at t4 you're shaving minimum 10% of your cast time off of most of your casts

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and that the secondary is most of what you do on void

glad tulip
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fully stacked warp flurry on purg, would be perma flame if you're dealing with a huge horde

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that'll be nice

austere estuary
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even 1 stack of it after a full cast on purg is nice, as you'll get your next flame out a good deal faster

manic needle
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Cant wait to upgrade my Flurry to T4. Should bring my staff to 545

austere estuary
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but not tested it on purg atm

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so can't say if it works or not

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1 stack might

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but I imagine it can't get more, if it can even get that

glad tulip
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it doesn't, at least i didn't really notice much of a change, if there was - it was negligible

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within margin of error

austere estuary
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on void it's very clear as the cast bar actually skips up

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video there

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and you can see it doing the skip of 1 stack's worth even if you chain full charges

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so it's always good on void

left basin
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imagine we'd have uh

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warframe color picks for particle effects on siker

cyan notch
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what

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oh you mean psyker wtf

manic needle
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Saiker

cyan notch
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i thought u were just weirdly talking about yourself in 3rd person

left basin
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no iz siker

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siker when buf

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god i booted into a dog baross alone

stray pond
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So close yet so far from making a new gold

austere estuary
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so

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executor + 6 warp charges + MG XII

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with no respite on it for the odd bit of extra damage

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kinda wild!

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and it has only 64% stopping power

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at long range, it crits a rager head for 1300+ and leaves it with 13 hp left

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so a little more stopping power and it'd be pretty frequently 1 shotting damnation ragers

teal kite
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should I keep what I have or upgrade

austere estuary
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hmm

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purp will do better damage for sure

teal kite
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what does "finesse" do anyway

manic needle
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Weak spot hit and crit damage

teal kite
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ooo

floral solstice
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you can inspect the weapon and hover over the stat

austere estuary
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you need to look at each weapon type though, it's not the same for them

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FS in particular do extremely well from finesse

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daggers too

teal kite
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I just dont know if I should replace

austere estuary
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I'd take the purp

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well it's not like you have to trade it in

teal kite
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yeah I know

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just trying to decide if I should make it golden

austere estuary
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I would

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it's a force sword

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tonnes of great blessings

teal kite
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oh nm not like I have the resources atm anyway LOL

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just checked xD

austere estuary
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well that solves that for now

teal kite
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easiest class for resources is def zealot cause im always rushing ahead

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when I use electric staff im always back

austere estuary
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they're shared

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it doesn't matter

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still, continue to loot goblin

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it is the way

teal kite
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should I keep unarmored on it

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def carapace

austere estuary
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I'd probably roll away unarmored till it's free and then see waht second blessing you get

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if you know you'll roll away a given perk, and that you're going to up it to orange, better to roll the perk away as soon as you know you will

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lower rarity perk rerolls are cheaper

teal kite
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ah ya

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imma roll now then

austere estuary
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can always just take whatever then

teal kite
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+10 weak spot damage

austere estuary
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I mean you can keep rolling it till it's free

teal kite
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I know most dont like unyelding for force sword but I spam force sword on bosses it does so much damage

austere estuary
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then you can reroll it anytime you like for free after upgrading it and that'll help you decide since there might be perk synergy

teal kite
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yeah I rolled till its free now

austere estuary
teal kite
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has carapace and unyelding

left basin
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i picked up a total

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of

austere estuary
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once you get another blessing on it, you'll maybe have more to think about too

left basin
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plasteel

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on 2 separate missions

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0000000

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!!!!

teal kite
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😭

austere estuary
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I wish I could get the gist of revolver

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got this and like

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it's satisfying to use but the RELOADS

lethal crown
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don't miss, then

north cradle
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At least it's not the plasma rifle

wet jacinth
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revolver is iffy if it isn't on veteran

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very slow reload

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still has it's uses here and there

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just not nearly as much up-time

left basin
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AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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GUCCI GANG GUCCI GANG GUCCI GANG

long wharf
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congrats, that's damned good

left basin
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@manic needle

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ya wanted to look at it

manic needle
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Nice, congrats

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One of the best staffs out there for sure

left basin
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tanks the fps

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the crunches when it hits a crit

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on a full crowd

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ewwww

manic needle
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Still using this one, doubt Ill find an upgrade any time soon

left basin
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ayuh

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just anim cancel it and turn into a bolter

manic needle
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Cant beat out having the two best blessing though, probably

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Ive been looking for surge since the pre-order beta

left basin
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i want a good roll of crooshin

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and go meleetard

long wharf
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I really wish the surge staff had a blessing that made it damage usable

manic needle
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They could just make it deal as much damage to unarmored and infested as it does to flak and it still probably wouldnt be OP

left basin
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slap a higher gain of soulfire on it

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like, big numbers

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and make it a melter

stray pond
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A decent weapon I'd been really excited about getting to gold has now been made gold and I couldn't have been more disappointing

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Instead of it getting anything good it's now just a fuckin' ragdoll stick.

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I'm glad my luck with my Psyker gear is better

manic needle
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RNGtide

stray pond
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It was such a nice Crusher too

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But then the blessings are just...

mint brook
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what does impact even do

stray pond
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Ragdoll

cyan notch
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stagger

stray pond
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Knocks enemies over/around

mint brook
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ah

manic needle
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Congratulations on your home run bat

stray pond
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It really is that isn't it

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...Hold on I should go see what all I can knock over with this thing

floral solstice
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not like you have that many choices of blessings with crusher

stray pond
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True but still could've been better

floral solstice
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there's one decent one, forgot the name... skullcrusher?

stray pond
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Yep

floral solstice
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just dont run the weapon on an assassination t5, you will die of boredom

stray pond
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5 lights sends a Crusher flying

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This is legitimately just a home run bat, you weren't wrong

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2 heavies sends them flying too

floral solstice
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yeah it's hilarious to use but killing stuff takes ages

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pretty safe choice for premade teams

stray pond
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Damage actually ain't that bad

floral solstice
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wish our psyker staff specials did something remotely similar

stray pond
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Trauma staggers just as much if not more I'm pretty sure

floral solstice
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i mean, i wish the specials did something cool aside from poking and bonking in the head

stray pond
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Ah yeah

hexed inlet
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20 fat damage

languid tusk
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imo psyker level 30 feat should be ability to dual wield staff

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so you can surge staff while you purgatus staf KEKW_ogryn

left basin
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i want a psyker rod

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that amplifies the BB

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so i can do stupid spam with bbs

cyan notch
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i got a rod here for you

languid tusk
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yeah how come theres no blessing that buffs brainburst

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whats up with that

manic needle
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All Or Nothing will give a whopping single digit % power buff

languid tusk
left basin
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yay fimsh

cyan notch
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why would there be a blessing that buffs bb though

cyan notch
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other classes dont have blessings that buff their nades

left basin
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other classes don't have a bb

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that is heavily incentivized to be used as a class amp mechanic

forest coral
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How did you guys get your out with a bang challenges? it either doesnt do enough damage or some team mate glasses an elite in the group as you commit brain toaster

left basin
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the vietcong laser guy doesn't get weakpoint damage from enemies hit by the grenade

manic needle
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Force Staffs acting as a focus for Psyker powers is lore friendly, so that angle allows for it at least

left basin
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still

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i want more siker melee

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fuckin

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force stick

honest knoll
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okay stupid question, can psyker get braced autoguns

left basin
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yuh i tink

cyan notch
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wtf is a siker

left basin
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siker sikinetic

cyan notch
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thats like how a 2 year old spells

honest knoll
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Hell yea, my build will be epic I just need to FIND ONE IN THE SHOP

left basin
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me siker

honest knoll
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how do grown ups spell siker

left basin
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siker

honest knoll
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omygod thats so crazy

cyan notch
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idk wtf a siker is

manic needle
cyan notch
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siker is probably pronounced sicker

left basin
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sajker sajkineticevic

cyan notch
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which sounds exceedingly dumb

left basin
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others might not treat you seriously please refer to psyker as psyker

maiden wolf
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Yoo, do y'all think the rending on weakspot hit is a worthwhile blessinn for the dueling sword? I'm also wondering if there's a particular duelling sword mark that's preferred.

cyan notch
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helps you kill carapace stuff easier

maiden wolf
left basin
cyan notch
honest knoll
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Mk V has been my personal favorite for dueling swords, force sword is still fastest melee crusher killer psyker has to my knowledge

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I do love me a good force sword

maiden wolf
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Ah, ATM I got a 380 catachan MKI that has great crowd control and requires 0 braincells to use, I was wondering if it would be worth switching to a sabre as my non-FS melee

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The Catachan works great with a BB builds as a horde killer

cyan notch
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yea mk5 overheads do more damage than other marks

honest knoll
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depends on your build and playstyle really, I love how the dueling sword feels to use but I end up using force sword more often than not cuz it fits my playstyle better

cyan notch
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easy to keep headshots going so your buff doesnt reset

honest knoll
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I would just try out a few different ones and see which you like best

maiden wolf
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Oh damn, the dueling sword I was thinking of is in my melk shop, it has tier 4 rending and another blessing I forget

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Its an MKV

cyan notch
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you really want shred

maiden wolf
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It has meh midifiers (334)

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I'll check again tomorrow

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The shop resets at 7PM in my time zone

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I'll check if it has shred tomorrow

left basin
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ARGH WHEN PATCH WHEN BUF SIKER

maiden wolf
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IKR

jovial frigate
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wait its been 2 weeks right, doesnt the cash dollar shop cycle tomorrow or something

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imagine we get a real money shop update and no response in regards to content pepetopkek

maiden wolf
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My buff hopes: BB charge time is based off of enemy health, Quicken boosts quell as well as ult regen speed, Soulblaze perks apply enough soulblaze to matter,

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Trauma staff doesn't insta-killyou

covert valve
cyan notch
jovial frigate
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ironically probably the best trauma staff you can get in it's current state i think

maiden wolf
left basin
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it's only mine i am a haxer

cyan notch
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damage kinda lame

left basin
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my bb oneshots magnusson

cyan notch
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who tf is magunson

manic needle
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One of the lead developers for Darktide

left basin
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it's siker

cyan notch
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oh ok

left basin
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sounds exceedingly dumb ik

manic needle
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He did the interview that reddit was malding over

cyan notch
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i thought it was some lore character

maiden wolf
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I have a 24 charge rate staff, all its other stats are 80. It charges half a second slower.

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I really want to see another force melee in the game. A force spear would fuck, or a force glaive

jovial frigate
left basin
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force dildo for bb amplification

maiden wolf
left basin
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doesn't seem to be proccing twice at least

jovial frigate
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it is if it's golden and a throne :^) but really I think it's pretty much because of the mechanicus that any xenos tech is absolutely heretical in nature

left basin
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force rod force rod force rod

maiden wolf
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Hmm, I though force staves were already xeno

covert valve
# left basin i dont think it does

thats what i figured. I have surge with 5% crit but from my test it doesnt crit enough to give its own blessing unless you pair it up with nexus (also further buffing it with shred bug)

manic needle
maiden wolf
left basin
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force halberd! greatsword! ..falchions?

manic needle
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tfw your force staff will never be this cool

maiden wolf
left basin
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still

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force rod force rod force rod

maiden wolf
manic needle
maiden wolf
left basin
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four sons of magnusson the brown

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fuckin imagine it

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using a force rod to store up bbs

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and just fuckin bzbzbzbbzbzbz

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still

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when wyrdvane

jovial frigate
#

imagine giving hadron a force rod and telling her to make it better tho

left basin
#

"i can add an oscillator"

#

now that i think of it

#

how the fuck is a psyker hammer going to be different from the naruto runner's hammer

covert valve
left basin
#

is it gonna be a different shiny and that's it?

#

*if it's going to be

maiden wolf
manic needle
#

Blazing spirit doesnt seem that good on Voidstrike

#

Id love to be proven wrong but.... yeah

left basin
#

blazing spirit doesn't seem that good*

maiden wolf
#

I wish it couls spawn on the surge staff

left basin
#

it'd need to apply different amounts on different staves to be okay

left basin
#

😦

maiden wolf
#

AFAIK it can't

left basin
#

i had a dream build where i set people on fire from the extra fiery lightning

maiden wolf
#

Yeah, me too

left basin
#

oh well

maiden wolf
#

I really hope we'll be able to swap out blessings soon. I really want to put warp nexus on my surge staff

#

I've been hoarding items woth desirabke blessings just in case we'll be able to remove blessings or sacrifice items to get the blessings

#

My assumption is that swapping blessings will work like swapping perks,

#

but the "earn blessing" aspect tells me we'll be collecting them in some way

cyan notch
#

earn blessing is just extracting it from a weapon

maiden wolf
#

my assumption was that that would be done by sacrificing other weapons. Whether we'll be able to combine low tier blessifs or not is something I'm wondering about

left basin
#

yay progression susgryn

covert valve
left basin
#

what the game really needs is a weapon slot for the nade πŸ™‚

manic needle
#

Main problem with AB is that the target has to be killed by the soulblaze

left basin
#

with modifiers and stuff

manic needle
#

and 1 stack ticks for like 4 damage

#

Blazing spirit honestly should apply a lot more if it even wants to compete with the actually good blessings in this game

#

or just make it so that it can appear on Purgatus staffs

cyan notch
#

that would be uh

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something

left basin
#

then every other weapon'd be absolutely int on a fart psyker

covert valve
left basin
#

that's turbo nasty

#

...

#

force rod force rod force rod

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so i can smack the enemy with a stick

#

fuckin.. any force weapon at this point

#

i want all of it

manic needle
# cyan notch it doesnt though?

What's your source? AB should only proc Warp Charges on a soulblaze kill, and if that isnt the case then that changes a lot

long wharf
#

AB procs when an enemy dies with soulblaze on them

left basin
#

uhh

#

am i supposed to be able to equip purg skin on my void?

#

i dont think i've seen this before

cyan notch
#

yes

left basin
#

nice

cyan notch
#

any skin can go on any staff for staffs

fierce sinew
#

it's also really clear from just playing with it

manic needle
#

Looks good, it's honestly hilarious how poorly worded most of the things in the game are, at this point

fierce sinew
#

if you ever shout a group at the same time as your vet grenades it for example

atomic dagger
#

The feat Psykinetic aura description says: "+15% Combat ability cooldown (allies in coherence) on elite kills"
Is this only true for allies?
Does it mean an ally needs to do the kill?
Does it mean only the ally gets the ability cooldown?

I have so much questions

austere estuary
#

which is still amazing

cyan notch
austere estuary
#

though not as hilariously busted as it would be as if it was either all funnelled to you for all elite kills or all for all

atomic dagger
#

meh
not what i want
but could still be good

austere estuary
#

if it was all elite kills fueled your ult, or all elite kills fueled everyone's ult it would be hands down the most OP skill in the game

#

as it is, it's still very very strong

austere estuary
#

I think the main reason that people use the 1st one instead is convenience

#

probably most of the time the elite kill cd is stronger overall

#

provided people make use of the ults

#

if the ults get sat on, the worth goes down the drain

cyan notch
#

zealots and ogryns dont really need it

#

nice for vets and other kinetic barrage psykers ig

austere estuary
#

the cd 30 feat is so clunky

rocky cedar
#

Is it possible to get blazing spirit by consecration?

austere estuary
#

when you consecrate it just gives it any possible blessing as far as I know, but hey

#

now that you mention it, I suppose it is possible that there could be more restrictions on it

#

I kinda doubt that

#

Also, I may have discovered something pretty huge re. executor and shred veryCreep

#

makes both WAY easier to set up, but especially executor

#

you can actually get all 5 stacks in a single (technically) swing

#

not such a big deal for shred, though does make catachan much faster and getting the benefit of it

cyan notch
#

i dont wanna upgrade this and get shit perks for my mats

manic needle
#

Ordo Dockets + Experience gain

#

easy rolls

ornate hamlet
#

That 21% though.

manic needle
#

Ive ruined a good 21% health trinket or two by gettng shitty rolls when upgrading, it sucks quite a bit

blissful kestrel
#

You only need to upgrade for 1 good perk, the other you can reroll. I am saying this just to make you feel that much worse when you roll terribly on both πŸ™‚

cyan notch
#

im not throwing 1200 plasteel away

#

until they nerf upgrading costs

austere estuary
#

they have nerfed them once quietly, I hope they do again

austere estuary
#

πŸ™‚

#

the purple one was the most recent, I did a second roll out of desperation after the first two LUL

#

this has potential though

#

this is what I'm sitting on while I wait for a good hp thing

deft granite
#

Any tips on doing Pick n' Mix? Which enemies count, and which enemies don't? It's the last one I need and it's driving me bonkers.

compact cargo
#

toughness regen does nothing btw

austere estuary
#

starts it sooner

glossy pivot
#

yay or nay

austere estuary
#

I mean

manic needle
#

It's 380, might as well buy it at least

austere estuary
#

it's a 380 so it's not bad

glossy pivot
#

i did buy but not sure if its worth the upgrade materials

austere estuary
#

unfortunate stat spread a little with stopping power vs ammo/mobility but still good

#

I'd take it aand hang on

#

worst case you waste a few dockets

left basin
#

so uh

#

still

silk flax
#

If you get calvacade / Blazing away on Autopistols they do a lot of dmg

glossy pivot
#

what would ideal stats be for this then?

austere estuary
#

so trappers, bombers, gunners, shotgunners, ragers, snipers even

#

ideal targets are snipers, trappers, bombers, gunners, shotgunners as even without any buffs they die in one BB

left basin
#

anyone got a list-ish of blessings that are shared across weaps?

#

i.e. if i have +10 penis length on melee it'd work on my ranged weapon too

austere estuary
#

pinning fire is shockingly strong

#

when you have a horde or so to work with at least

left basin
#

thank god fucking hell i have bcr

#

20 minutes of rolls

austere estuary
#

I don't have a list, but basically - if it's not uber strong like decimator, it's shared

#

or rather

austere estuary
#

if it's uber strong without caveats it won't be shared, like decimator

#

if it has a timer it's usually shared

#

though typically you need the weapon active to activate it like shred you have to hit with that weapon

#

and once active so long as you don't drop it by doing something that would reset it, you're good

left basin
#

god i just want a ranged weapon as a stat stick with crooshin roulette

#

on my zealot

#

so i can smack things like a moron that i am

austere estuary
#

just incase you weren't aware, crucian doesn't actually care about bullet count in absolute, just in % - incase you were going to pass it up on a revolver or something

#

I hope they change the tooltip on it to reflect that

left basin
#

that sugz

austere estuary
#

?

#

no it's good

#

it means you get the full benefit so long as you're at 0

#

whether that's revolver with max of 6 shots

#

or an autogun with 20+

left basin
#

so it's the same 3-5% of bonus crit on empty revolver and the same bonus 3-5% crit on empty autogun or am i missing a thing

atomic dagger
#

is 5% bonus crit even worth it?
i feel like most unstackable blessings are meh

left basin
#

yeah

austere estuary
#

no

#

it's stacking

left basin
#

i was under the impression that a 30 round otogun with 30 "empty chambers" = 30x3-5% crit

austere estuary
#

no

#

it's % absed

#

based*

left basin
#

hm

austere estuary
#

that's what I was saying - tooltip is misleading

left basin
#

what's max crit

#

on it

austere estuary
#

that part is as you'd exepct

#

o hwait

#

haha

left basin
#

6?

austere estuary
#

that's also not in the tooltip huh

atomic dagger
#

5% is then max crit you can get out of it ?

left basin
#

i'm still at a loss

austere estuary
#

it goes to like 10 stacks I think

left basin
#

so wait

#

potentially 10x5%???????

austere estuary
#

I'll double check but afaik 10 stacks, 1 stack per missing 10%

left basin
#

the same on a fucking revolver?

austere estuary
#

I'm gonna test

#

well if it wasn't it'd be trash on revolver

left basin
#

wow i'm switching from siker

#

that's a dopamine spam

austere estuary
#

I use if you want all the crit

#

you can just swap over and enjoy it on your melee

#

someone said here that there's a 50% cap on crit overall but I've not tested

atomic dagger
#

but then you only have like 2 or 3 good shots on a revolver

left basin
#

well i guess you could make a melee flame psyker

austere estuary
#

well you don't reload revolver all at once

#

I use shred on melee weapon to pump crit for my purgatus

left basin
#

so uh

austere estuary
#

along with warp nexus on the purgatus

#

and perk

#

huge burn stacks

#

very quickly

left basin
#

you slap shred on a person by hitting with melee

#

right?

austere estuary
#

yes

left basin
#

and then fart

austere estuary
#

it's on you though

left basin
#

i'mma check

austere estuary
#

not the target

left basin
#

what

#

HUH

austere estuary
#

you get 6 quick hits in a row

atomic dagger
#

when your revolver is empty and you switch weapons, does it carry over the crit chance?

austere estuary
#

and then don't miss or swing

austere estuary
#

and then you have that buff till your next swing

cyan notch
atomic dagger
#

basically, just have an empty revolver and have +50% crit all the time?
wait what... cant be right

cyan notch
#

some innocent pedestrian

left basin
austere estuary
austere estuary
#

crucian is not on many weapon types too

#

revolver, headhunter autos

atomic dagger
left basin
#

time for retardo meleeker

austere estuary
#

psyker does best when using everything it has

left basin
#

imma duke it out with da boss

austere estuary
#

all the tools

atomic dagger
#

naaah psyker does best when going full palpatine and be a CC servitor

austere estuary
#

nonsense LUL

#

surge cc is good

brittle crest
#

which staff is safer/easier to pug with (aka no voice) purg or surg?

austere estuary
#

but if that's all you do you're leaving lots on the table you could bring

#

hrum, out of those two only...

left basin
#

.. yes... but no

austere estuary
#

I'd say purg

atomic dagger
brittle crest
austere estuary
#

if you're using surge you're often more reliant on teammates to actually kill things

left basin
austere estuary
#

voidstrike is most flexible of all staves

brittle crest
left basin
#

how long does shred stay?

manic needle
#

Yes

austere estuary
#

all staves hold up in t5

brittle crest
#

i love using void while leveling tbh, it's my fav one

austere estuary
left basin
#

:DDDD so i can

#

wow

#

ok

atomic dagger
left basin
#

fuck the melee shit

atomic dagger
#

but its rare to find a good staff

left basin
#

i can potentially have 30% crit on my surgevoid

#

:DDDD

#

ok

austere estuary
#

surge staff has much more crit

left basin
#

that's fucking sttttttupid

cyan notch
#

purg covers most things you can handle hordes and elites and bosses and you can bb stuff down if really needed for surge you are mid vs hordes and terrible vs bosses

austere estuary
#

oh void

atomic dagger
#

90% of shop offers are stupid pistols and guns for psyker
needs fixing

austere estuary
#

you can have more than that

glad tulip
austere estuary
#

warp nexus gets you up to 20-25

manic needle
#

@cyan notch That guide you linked is fascinating stuff. The Covering Fire talent doing literally nothing is hilarious.

austere estuary
#

it's very useful for purgatus

atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

depends

#

if there's boss and other enemies

#

purg still better

cyan notch
#

no if you stack burn its way better

glad tulip
#

Isn't there a max of burn you can stack?

austere estuary
#

this is my current go-to pairing for my purg and my trauma

austere estuary
wheat quartz
#

say do we know what the Damage stat's burning intensity value does for soulblaze tick damage, if anything?

glad tulip
brittle crest
#

is there a good guide for what blessings n stuff i need to look for on various staves/melee weapons for psyker?

austere estuary
atomic dagger
#

brain burst has a dps of like 500 without using the talent thing to reduce peril and brain burst cast time

austere estuary
#

15 is the most we can get before bars extend

atomic dagger
#

i dont think any staff can reach this dmg

manic needle
glad tulip
austere estuary
#

this is burn application with warp nexus, and then, with warp nexus and shred

austere estuary
#

worthless blessings

#

but strong stats

#

btw

cyan notch
austere estuary
#

this lets you sprint forward while channelling secondary

austere estuary
#

I've seen as much as like 330? 370 or something on a mauler in psyk from burn

cyan notch
#

just left clicking the beefiest target

austere estuary
cyan notch
#

which is like reaper until i saw damage stop increasingg

austere estuary
cyan notch
#

since i only care about burn

wheat quartz
#

also in practice, for maximum purgatus, is shred on a dueling sword worth it over bringing deflector FS?

#

assuming you maintain shred full value until you switch back to the sword and miss

left basin
#

still cant decide if i should go for fartstaff or this with a shredstick

austere estuary
#

shred is 100% worth it on purg

#

more stacks = dramatically more damage

wheat quartz
#

the shred stacks are maintained until you swing a melee attack and either miss outright or hit a non weakspot, right?

cyan notch
austere estuary
#

shred doesn't need a weakspot

atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

just hits

wheat quartz
#

oh right yeah, so it only falls off on an outright miss?

#

does blocking reset it?

austere estuary
#

or when you swing after a while

#

blocking is fine iirc

atomic dagger
#

AND my biggest issue with the purg staff is its limited range

#

which makes it unviable for me personally

cyan notch
wheat quartz
#

so in theory with a shred 3 rapier fully stacked, and warp nexus 3 at 100% peril, with 5% crit perk, we can hit 50% crit per purg tick (5 base +5 +20 +20)

atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

it takes no time at all to build shred stacks with tac axe or duelling sword

cyan notch
atomic dagger
sudden trellis
#

PERIL IS STORED IN THE BALLS

atomic dagger
austere estuary
wheat quartz
#

shred stacks

fallen helm
cyan notch
austere estuary
#

you also always have enemies feeding you warp charges, especially with purgatus

wheat quartz
#

while I'm gathering data - does Psykinetic's Wrath (+damage on force weapon attacks, scaling by peril) work with the soulblaze dot damage, or only direct damage from staves and the force sword?

atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

it's called moving goalposts

cyan notch
#

its nowhere near the same dps

#

purg does way more

left basin
glad tulip
atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

BB still won't outdo purg

glad tulip
austere estuary
#

and not sure if you noticed but bosses don't fight alone

#

maybe in t1?

left basin
atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

Purgatus vs reaper gets 474 DPS after one cast and then sitting doing nothing waiting for him to die

left basin
austere estuary
#

BB x4 for reaper is 372 dps

left basin
#

the insane laugh just carries the entire VO

austere estuary
#

so purg casting once then going to sleep for a while

left basin
#

i would be completely fine if all of his voicelines would just be "beloved" and "he he ha"

glad tulip
austere estuary
#

is more dps than back to a back BBs while starting from 0 peril

left basin
#

the "jorman" psyker would be cool if he had no "jorman" accent

austere estuary
#

with barrage BB has a use there, and vs a bulwark when it's facing you and you can't easily get around it

left basin
#

an arrogant asshole.. that sounds like medic from tf2

glad tulip
left basin
#

"anyway that's how i lost my psyking license"

atomic dagger
austere estuary
#

yes, same goes for bulwark, you shouldn't be BBing repeatedly unless you are stuck infront of him, and he's not staggered, and he's alone

wheat quartz
#

right, shred+nexus seems to show the expected high crit rate of purg ticks in the meat grinder, ty for data guys

atomic dagger
left basin
#

the caribbean psyker is boring

cyan notch
left basin
#

do u no da wae shit

glad tulip
cyan notch
#

and ig demonhost

atomic dagger
cyan notch
orchid nest
#

they are flak. which is why FS does more damage to them than the other monstrosities. they also take more dmg from melee too though.

left basin
#

that and the belovedker alternates between nice pink bunny of being good and icepick murderer

manic needle
#

I still dont understand why there's a random gunker build post gunking up this channel's pins.

left basin
#

blech gunker

glad tulip
#

Unless it's a weapon which shoots warp energy bullets

#

Not a true gunker

#

An imitation

left basin
#

sometimes he shoots so hard, he rips the warp

atomic dagger
forest coral
#

Loner female psyker spits facts

glad tulip
manic needle
left basin
manic needle
#

The way some feats function compared to their description is wholly inaccurate

forest coral
#

also she oddly sounds like jester from crit role

manic needle
#

Im actually shocked some of these made it into the Pre-order beta, much less the final release

atomic dagger
left basin
#

if we believe the game is fine really hard, it will be

manic needle
left basin
#

no me siker

cyan notch
left basin
#

mildly liked said that next patch is totally gonna be siker patch

#

and they'll have all of the siker things and it'll be the best class ever and they'll also remove all of the predatory predators

#

... and veteran, they will also remove the veteran hopefully

#

i wonder if they'll actually make the VAs scream for the emperor or some stuff

manic needle
#

Gods, a "For the Emperor" button is so low on my list of what I want added to the game at this point, it might as well not even be on the radar

#

Like the ability to throw confetti in the middle of a trainwreck

left basin
#

but it's hip and cool and drg wowee

#

one thing i really want

#

that whenever they decide to add a critker

#

they won't make his ult be fucking teleknives

#

i'd rather have a d&d magic missile rather than that shit

fluid forge
sudden trellis
#

bruh you don't need to microdose on BB stacks, just flame the horde.

fluid forge
#

tbh we need a vet cosmetic of that

left basin
#

i can't get used to the fartstaff after the surgevoid

manic needle
#

@fluid forge Can we get this added to channel pins?

fluid forge
#

can do

vagrant cedar
manic needle
#

It's more than a little irritating how unhelpful some tooltips in the game are, whether it be for blessings, feats, or anything else

#

You have to dig deep to find some potentially very helpful information that affects your basic playstyle with certain weapons or builds

vagrant cedar
#

rumor is it's their first game so

#

it's kinda understandable

austere estuary
#

1990 games? Has nobody played monster hunter world or rise here?

manic needle
#

I can honestly say that I haven't lol

#

As far as the link goes, my favorite hidden feature is how Blood and Thunder says it applies one stack of bleed, when it actually applies 4

#

My dudes, straight up hit backspace and then type a different number

wet jacinth
#

Pfft.

#

No

left basin
#

it's their 0.5st game

#

i found the problem

#

sienna eyes are not shiny enough

vagrant cedar
ornate hamlet
#

No one joined me for this mission lol.

lucid horizon
#

hella sus only 1014 kills

#

playing alone

ornate hamlet
#

Nope. First mission I did solo. Which was surprising because it was a level 1.

slow karma
#

that's exactly why you didn't get anyone

#

Even I go straight to level 2 on new characters when I'm leveling

#

most folks have their legs in the game, they're not playing that low

ornate hamlet
#

Eh. Easy for contracts, also had grims.

deft fiber
#

Well, yeah, i guess gun psyker it is.

rocky cedar
#

Now pray for cavalcade and pinning fire

deft fiber
#

I won't even buy itKEKW_ogryn

deft trench
#

What does this even do
is it just 5% power if i have full stam?

deft fiber
#

No one know how it works(if it even works) since it's a shit blessing anyway.

deft trench
#

Saw it on one of the weps from melk, but not about to spend money on something that is likely just shit lol, if it gave 5% power per stam bar then maybe

deft fiber
#

If you have something with this blessing already you can try to check in training ground, but why botherKEKW_ogryn

tawdry shell
#

rending on this thing good?

deft fiber
#

It's a trauma. Nothing makes it good.

tawdry shell
#

and its +6 rending not percentage

#

hmm

#

I want to try new stuff

#

I am really tired of Purgatus blinding my eyes

#

its so bright

deft fiber
#

I see you like to punch yourself in the balls.

wet raven
deft fiber
tawdry shell
#

yeah I know what rending was

#

its +6 rending

#

I have no fucking clue what this even means in actual game

#

lol

#

is it like 50 percent increase damage?

#

20percent?

#

no clue

#

goddamnit fat shark

#

off to the psykhanium

deft fiber
#

Well, it either downgrade enemy armor or just gives you 10% per stack. I haven't found any info how it works exactly. Guess it's a time to check in training groundKEKW_ogryn

#

And it's up to +6, so you need full charge i guess to apply all 6 stacks. And question is if it even work with alternate attackKEKW_ogryn

tawdry shell
#

its a

#

+14 damage

#

...

deft fiber
tawdry shell
#

compared to the usual 445

#

it becomes

#

460

#

459

deft fiber
#

At least it works somehow. Not sure if properly.

tawdry shell
#

it adds like +13+14 each rending

#

I can only use 2 trauma fully charged with my peril

#

...

#

then I will have to quell it

#

omg its so freaking bad

cyan notch
#

it doesnt really work on trauma cuz it already goes through armor

#

if you try melee or left click after a full charge youll see much bigger increases

tawdry shell
#

oh

#

its also +13 +14

#

my DS went from 8 damage

#

to 21 22

#

this rending is flat

#

fully charged it adds +13 +14

#

I regret using plasteel on this piece of crap

#

any refund

#

I am trying to find out who has a working trauma staff

#

and dave is running it

deft fiber
#

Fatshark quality stamp.

tawdry shell
#

@austere estuary what blessing are you using to make trauma work for u and not traumatize you instead?

cyan notch
#

blessings arent gonna change the staff

tawdry shell
#

it will help

cyan notch
#

no not really

tawdry shell
#

I want to use it

#

even if its shit

cyan notch
#

you will just have to be constantly quelling

tawdry shell
#

I want to know how to make it less shit

cyan notch
#

blessings arent gonna make it less shit to any meaningful degree

tawdry shell
#

a brutal momentum axe and one without makes a fuckton of difference

#

I am hoping the same is for trauma

cyan notch
#

well im telling you none of the blessings make any huge difference

deft fiber
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As i see from blessings list it's nothing that could work in my mind to make trauma bearable at least.

tawdry shell
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I am inhaling copium

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What are you gonna do about it mister

deft fiber
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Sustained fire MAY BE.

tawdry shell
wet belfry
deft fiber
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Paired with warp flurry.

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Idk, it's only combination that looks sane.

wet belfry
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Just use the traumas melee attack.

deft fiber
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If there are no other hidden interactions or gimmicks that make trauma works.

wet belfry
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That is the only way to make it work

cyan notch
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just quell after every attack

vagrant furnace
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Quell into toughness

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Lifesaver

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Will make your quell actually usefull

near wyvern
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nice

near wyvern
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@tawdry shell if the rending is flat, does it work with soulblaze (AB ult feat)?

tawdry shell
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yeah I bet it does

ornate hamlet
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when are we getting Re-Bless??

tawdry shell
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Soonℒ️

deft fiber