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#psyker-class
craggy willow
craggy willow
Maybe being a Psyker is rad. I'll never have to worry about eating alone again!
cyan notch
who worries about eating alone in the first place
craggy willow
People who like ||other people ._.||
wheat kraken
oh mama... was thinking "should i even bother, the trait wont show up... save it till later.... Ah sod it, here we go"
manic needle
Now get something halfway decent as your second perk and youre in a good spot
wheat kraken
final form
cyan notch
rip first target but pretty decent otherwise
red wind
at which levels do you unlock the over staff weapons?
magic hull
final form
damn bruh got the package, but why my light and heavy attack different tho
craggy willow
Was about to say the same lmao
blazing oak
I have found the combined bullpup torture and plasma amalgamation https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/1060754381076705310/rlg1fwfj1jz41.png
wheat kraken
executor, think its instant death humanoid enemies
magic hull
lol +4% what
trust me ive been asking this for ages
cyan notch
damn bruh got the package, but why my light and heavy attack different tho
first target
neat summit
I have found the combined bullpup torture and plasma amalgamation https://cdn.di...
Wtf is this nonsense.
magic hull
I have found the combined bullpup torture and plasma amalgamation https://cdn.di...
Faze Clan rebellion??11!!
craggy willow
b-but..
blazing oak
Wtf is this nonsense.
craggy willow
I hate these, hoo boy.
orchid venture
the gun gnomes carry the bullets to the chamber, it's ok
neat summit
the gun gnomes carry the bullets to the chamber, it's ok
Lmfao. Literally have to put the rounds in one at a time from the magazine since they don’t feed.
blazing oak
That Reddit poster is not me btw
neat summit
That Reddit poster is not me btw
I saw haha
craggy willow
Reminds me of ||Tarkov gun threads||
empty basin
elfin roost
Average psyker main 
craggy willow
Where's the soy Zealot
warped kernel
so generally speaking, what perks should i go for with force sword?
elfin roost
Where's the soy Zealot
It will be 5-10 business minutes
tender terrace
Where's the soy Zealot
not me
u gone lern bout that "old man strength" real quick
elfin roost
The soy zealot
craggy willow
The soy zealot
based
hollow steeple
What are the best perks to get on a purgatus staff?
unarmored and maniac?
craggy willow
Your actions the past 5-10 business minutes are based, not the soy. My bad king.
hollow bronze
yay my first 380 🥹
elfin roost
Your actions the past 5-10 business minutes are based, not the soy. My bad king.
Yes, I do only the most based work
elfin roost
https://tenor.com/view/chad-stride-chad-stride-gif-23434553
(accurate representation of the process in makin these lads)
cyan notch
yay my first 380 🥹
ratio
craggy willow
I did you the favor of puttin' em tugeva sah
worldly iron
is there a good map to do Cliffhanger?
hot zephyr
Melk offering me a combat knife... thoughts? I've never run one
craggy willow
Imo: Hard pass unless you're min-maxing Bleed Zealot or just dislike cleaving and/or ||having fun||
Useful for mobility and dodges though I guess, if you're leaning on a staff/gun instead of melee
blazing oak
is there a good map to do Cliffhanger?
Chasm logistratum at one of the missions early on there is a really thin bridge to the left
Did it there with team help when it was 20 mobs and not 7
hollow steeple
which perk should I replace?
elfin roost
I did you the favor of puttin' em tugeva sah
hot zephyr
which perk should I replace?
Absolutely keep 10% ranged damage to elites. It's universal damage buff
hollow steeple
cool, thanks
pine iris
Hmm maybe "psykers arent good past malice" was a dumb take the whole time wow
mighty vault
Universal? I don't think that word means what you think it means
long wharf
Absolutely keep 10% ranged damage to elites. It's universal damage buff
elites are all of the enemies that you get a kill message for but don't have a spawn sound warning you they exist
elfin roost
Universal? I don't think that word means what you think it means
I think it does, he means elites regardless of the kind of armor they have
weary idol
and only ranged
you gonna beat them to death with the 40 damage melee attacks on the staff?
craggy willow
It's beautiful. As soon as I get this fraggin' transmitter realigned, I'm going to sob.
cyan notch
you gonna beat them to death with the 40 damage melee attacks on the staff?
no maybe with my melee weapon
weary idol
your perks on your staff don't apply to your melee weapon
cyan notch
ok and
craggy willow
Do blessings still work while the relevant weapon is unequipped?
cyan notch
some
craggy willow
Eugh. Oh well, I'll do some research and find the ones that are. That seems like a recipe for disaster.
long wharf
so, with some help testing, I can definitively say that not only can all psykers with Ascendant Blaze active proc off of any enemy that dies with soulblaze, but that it seems that all the psykers are splitting who gets AB to proc
testing so far indicates that it's random which psyker (with AB active) gets the proc
weary idol
very cool coding fatshark
long wharf
oh yeah, definitely not intentional
summer wind
that is so awful lol
maiden wolf
yay my first 380 🥹
Autopistol is my favourite gun. Underrated AF
hot zephyr
so, with some help testing, I can definitively say that not only can all psykers...
... wow.... I bet you need tylenol after testing that
long wharf
it was definitely... interesting
craggy willow
Papa bless you for the legwork
hot zephyr
Thinking I reroll crit chance to either +20% block eff or +20% to flak. Thoughts? I typically use this vs hordes
mental vortex
feeling like a fatass might start grinding ogryn
weary idol
block efficiency? what?
glacial lantern
Okay, so these do exist. Wow. Yeah, I mean it's RNG, so I guess eventually we had to get a good roll. Congrats. Craft that thing up until it's on 11
craggy willow
I love mulching bigguns. I'd pray 20% Flak into existence, personally.
hot zephyr
block efficiency? what?
It works on peril block too, reduces the peril you get
weary idol
yeah I know but you don't need it outside of maybe the force sword
it's more of a thing you go for on curios
hot zephyr
Yeah, I've got two curios with +10% block eff each, so was thinking another +15 or +20 here would get to to 40% block
lapis bay
yeah I know but you don't need it outside of maybe the force sword
Your name is amazing, welcome brother
hot zephyr
Yeah, I might just stew on it a little bit before committing to it. The flak damage is also quite useful
Hard to say for sure
lapis bay
Thinking I reroll crit chance to either +20% block eff or +20% to flak. Thoughts...
Block super useful, the special attack on chainswords eat anything armored iirc
hot zephyr
Yeah, with that 74 pen score it's pushing 87% of light attack damage and 70% of it's heavy attack damage through flak already
So the ROI on that +20 or 25 to flak is pretty high
lapis bay
The superior method of handling
elfin roost
Im gonna bullpup a staff rq
weary idol
I done bullpupped their lucius
would look better if it was further back like how the mag on an SVU is
elfin roost
Gotcha
weary idol
but also a bullpup with no pistol grip that uses the mag as a grip
charred urchin
whats the meta pysker build? new to psyker, main vet
weary idol
is really funny
mental vortex
is the chainsword worth using at heresy
weary idol
chainsword is always pretty good
cyan notch
its decent
weary idol
it's just a nice generalist option
lapis bay
I’m liking the antax axe, whoever recommended it earlier TY
mental vortex
does it have any psyker only quirks like the laspistol
weary idol
nope
mental vortex
ah
well if I catch a good one Im gonna try it
want something that has some of that big ol umph for once
weary idol
worth noting with the chainsword is that its activation is REALLY fast
like way faster than the animation
elfin roost
There we go, I bullpupped it harder
mental vortex
worth noting with the chainsword is that its activation is **REALLY** fast
yeah ik its pretty fast used it as a veteran for a couple games
but I liked the chainaxe more
hot zephyr
whats the meta pysker build? new to psyker, main vet
If you wanna be boring and play the "meta" build, it's Force Sword with Deflector and Purgatus Staff with 311112 or 321112 feats. But it's almost as boring as playing veteran.
charred urchin
If you wanna be boring and play the "meta" build, it's Force Sword with Deflecto...
I am a simple man
long osprey
Do the kinetic flayer feat works on staff attacks like lightning?
mental vortex
thats the %10 one?
hot zephyr
Do the kinetic flayer feat works on staff attacks like lightning?
Yes, works on literally any attack, including a BB
long osprey
Cool
hot zephyr
Only limit is you gotta be below 80% peril (critical peril)
mental vortex
also works with dagger
weary idol
dagger as psyker otherwise known as a neutered duelling sword
charred urchin
If you wanna be boring and play the "meta" build, it's Force Sword with Deflecto...
if you don't have deflector is force sword still worth it?
mental vortex
dagger as psyker otherwise known as a neutered duelling sword
you dont get it
weary idol
if you don't have deflector is force sword still worth it?
nope
mental vortex
you dont understand the dagger grindset
long osprey
The one who gives 4 stacks of fire seem bugged
mental vortex
wdym
long osprey
I got 4 charge and it doesn’t always give the effect when I’m maxed
hot zephyr
if you don't have deflector is force sword still worth it?
You take FS for it's push and deflector, so without deflector, you just have a nice push and an otherwise crappy weapon.
mighty vault
FS is sweet
mental vortex
it actually does decent damage
mighty vault
Deflector is for babies
mental vortex
just slow and takes peril
charred urchin
You take FS for it's push and deflector, so without deflector, you just have a n...
what do you suggest to use until I get one with deflector?
weary idol
FS activation also does insan damage
mental vortex
small amounts of peril but peril is peril
weary idol
but everything else is so so bad
hot zephyr
what do you suggest to use until I get one with deflector?
Camp the shop until you get one
long osprey
I use a rashad combat axe
mental vortex
what do you suggest to use until I get one with deflector?
dueling sword combat axe or a dagger
long osprey
Hit like a truck
hot zephyr
what do you suggest to use until I get one with deflector?
Chainsword is a decent substitute
mental vortex
or claw sword if you want more horde stuff
charred urchin
is deflector super rare like power cycler on power sword?
mighty vault
No.
mental vortex
its surprisingly common
zinc phoenix
I’ve yet to get a power sword with deflector so yes
mighty vault
Still no.
hot zephyr
is deflector super rare like power cycler on power sword?
There's not that many blessings on a FS, problem is if you want a decently rolled one with good base stats PLUS deflector on it you gotta play the RNG lottery
long osprey
Deflector protect from ranged attacks?
hot zephyr
Like, do you need deflector. No. you don't need it. But you asked for the meta-build, the meta build uses it
charred urchin
I appreciate the help and advice.
craggy willow
Deflector protect from ranged attacks?
While blocking, yuh.
weary idol
I'd argue that for force sword to be worth running it does infact need deflector
otherwise just use chainsword for more consistent damage output and a better moveset
hot zephyr
Chainsword does has a really nice moveset
way better than FS where you just gotta LMB through hordes
cyan notch
you really dont want to lmb through hordes with fs
mighty vault
It's for crushers and ragers
long osprey
I’ll try chainsword next
weary idol
yeah force sword you do heavies for hordes
they both have high cleave even though the first is an overhead for some reason?
hot zephyr
yeah force sword you do heavies for hordes
FS still has below average cleave/stagger even on heavy attacks
weary idol
yeah
hot zephyr
Like, it's not good, but it's servicable
hazy locust
fast swan
what time of day does the cosmetic shop usually update?
since it may do that omorrow and i gotta see the fresh clown drip
elfin roost
bullpup it so hard that the magazine *is* the stock
Oh you already know
lapis bay
this is godtier
elfin roost
I turned it into an FG 42
hollow steeple
bullpup lasobrez
cyan notch
put some sights
lapis bay
I found the next veteran outfit
primal fjord
orchid venture
i have no clue why the psyker ult will sometimes like, blow everything away and knock it on the ground, and other times it'll just kinda tickle them and get them ready to shoot the fuck out of you way faster
oblique torrent
orchid venture
it definitely activated, but that entire regiment of fighters just kinda went "wooh, strong wind. anyways, light this bitch up"
elfin roost
bullpup lasobrez
lapis bay
LMAO it was a laspistol the whole time
craggy willow
science has gone too far
fresh reef
running this with dueling sword and trauma. would highly recommend with toughness curios
very fun
elfin roost
science has gone too far
Truly
cyan notch
running this with dueling sword and trauma. would highly recommend with toughnes...
why not quietitude
this looks like a bb spam build
mental vortex
what kinda fucking gift is this
violet yoke
Don't ask just embrace the trauma build!!!
fresh reef
why not quietitude
personal preference, mostly
hollow steeple
god I like quietitude so much
fresh reef
with the toughness DR from ranged, you'd be surprised how much more you can stay in the lane of spamming BB
cyan notch
might as well go 6 warp charges then
fresh reef
why?
cyan notch
if youre spamming bb it boosts tranquility
mental vortex
does the regent ability of feats increase if you have more toughness
or is it always calculated like you only have 100 toughness
fresh reef
if youre spamming bb it boosts tranquility
it's mostly there because of the muscle memory I've built with trauma
hardly find that I particularly need the warp res, but the other two options are just bad lol
cyan notch
warp res is really good with warp battery and kinetic barrage
with 6 stacks you can pump out idk like 8bbs
fresh reef
perhaps
fresh reef
might try that in the future but currently my reason for running flayer is because of trauma's giant aoe
elfin roost
The lucius is now a revolver
manic needle
Does the warp resistance from inner tranquility make any difference in boosting Trauma staff usage?
fresh reef
Does the warp resistance from inner tranquility make any difference in boosting...
definitely, but I prefer just quelling and m2'ing again as opposed to pumping out more m2's before needing to quell
a nice rhythm of the "not killing myself" dance
fresh reef
toothpick bayonet
elfin roost
science has gone too far
Well not far enough, I made a new shotgun variant
elfin roost
toothpick bayonet
ITS AVERAGE
fresh reef
ITS AVERAGE
IT'S NORMAL SIZED AND IMPOSSIBLE TO STITCH UP
cyan notch
with 6 stacks you can pump out idk like 8bbs
i did 6 here but you can probably squeeze out 8
manic needle
definitely, but I prefer just quelling and m2'ing again as opposed to pumping ou...
If you're mostly staying at high peril and quelling enough to get another cast in, maybe Psykinetic's Wrath may be worthwhile? If Inner Tranquility isnt doing much I would want to test and see if that + warp charge stacks were enough to hit any breakpoints
lapis bay
it's.....beautiful
fresh reef
If you're mostly staying at high peril and quelling enough to get another cast i...
I don't believe they hit any notable points, at least not without significantly more risk to kill myself
though I did try it when trauma's peril build was still bugged
lemme run a t5 quickplay rq
manic needle
gl
hollow steeple
lol time to be racecar psyker
manic needle
Every staff
manic needle
lawdie
hollow steeple
fashiontide chad
manic needle
I always just wear penance gear + Imperial Edition Helm
Might get Gasmask chan because it looks cool and I already have the aquilas from IE
fast swan
my buff to the staff special attack
fresh reef
Might get Gasmask chan because it looks cool and I already have the aquilas from...
I don't like the way the voice filter sounds, personally
cyan notch
ur guy is poor af gotta farm more mats
fast swan
i wish the special could kill a fodder enemy with a couple of headshots
manic needle
my buff to the staff special attack
Darktide's first Force Axe, on a technicality
fresh reef
my buff to the staff special attack
buffed staff special attack damage from 11>22
hollow steeple
I do unironically bonk shit with my staff all the time
It's fun
and it's not like the lone poxwalker is going to hurt me
cyan notch
it hits like 1 enemy even with the sweep
craggy willow
Well not far enough, I made a new shotgun variant
This just hurts because it'll never happen. Lasgun shotgun variant with a bayonet and diffraction lens when?
hollow steeple
purg can crit
it just adds an extra stack of soulblaze instead of doing extra damage, i think
manic needle
My dream for Psyker Psykinetic is a Force Axe with cleaving attacks and the potential to get deflector
Special attack can be something different, I just want those 2 things
manic needle
purg can crit
it just adds an extra stack of soulblaze instead of doing extra da...
Thats right
fringe dove
@elfin roost why did you put a nail file/pocket knife on it
hollow steeple
My dream for Psyker Psykinetic is a Force Axe with cleaving attacks and the pote...
i'm still kinda hoping the 2h force sword is just the executioner's sword but I doubt it will be
imagine charging the blade and then just light attacking and cleaving a zillion poxwalkers in half
cyan notch
so like power sword
hollow steeple
probably good but I don't even know what you want to put on purg lol
fringe dove
how should i build my curios?
manic needle
so like power sword
Power Sword but you can explode, to mine salt from the poor Zealots
hollow steeple
so like power sword
obviously not without limit like power sword
but basically a weapon with better cleave than the force sword
without knowing stagger breakpoints or w/e I think it's hard to say right now
generally I like maniac on it because ragers are the things I'm most scared of
devout belfry
my buff to the staff special attack
elfin roost
<@1025197960776130661> why did you put a nail file/pocket knife on it
ITS AVERAGE SIZE
🥹
elfin roost
This just hurts because it'll never happen. Lasgun shotgun variant with a bayone...
God imagine how it'd work
M2 is pumping the shotgun, more pumps = more projectiles and bigger spread at the cost of ammo, M1 fires it
Special flicks the switch and activates a precision shot that pierces several enemies and absolutely obliterates on weakspots
lapis bay
Gunpsyker is no more
We are forever
elfin roost
GUNPSYKER IS NO MORE
elfin roost
God imagine how it'd work
M2 is pumping the shotgun, more pumps = more projecti...
Oh and of course there is no vertical spread, it just has an arc
craggy willow
Oh and of course there is no vertical spread, it just has an arc
duckbill more like better duck, stupid ahaha
elfin roost
ahahaha
fresh reef
the one notable breakpoint the extra 15% hits is the daemon tentacles
peril wasn't as hard to manage as I remember though
fresh reef
do I dare try it with wrack and ruin?
orchid venture
What is psykers best melee weapon?
manic needle
Well, you see Billy, thats a complex and hotly debated question
fresh reef
What is psykers best melee weapon?
mk5 combat axe slots neatly into pretty much every build
manic needle
Also it depends on what staff you're running IMO
fresh reef
personally I like the mobility of the dueling sword
orchid venture
I mean like, I've been using a tac axe this entire time because the game will not give me anything better
manic needle
Mk. 5 Axe if youre going for cleave/passive quell
Force Sword is good for deflector builds, pair it with the Kinetic Deflection feat
It also has good control with its push attack and is very effective at killing certain elites
hollow steeple
I want a good mk5 antax for my psyker
fringe dove
is it just me or does the purgatos staff feel way weaker than the flamer on zealot
hollow steeple
should probably start upgrading the green and grey ones I have laying around
manic needle
Some people also like the dueling sword, Im not a big fan of that nor Combat Knife
But both are alright for mobility
Ive even seen people pair Surge Staff with the likes of a Chainsword for horde clear, again Im not the biggest fan personally
round charm
wouldve preferred a better set for perks, but it seems aight so far
devout belfry
I really like the rapier aesthetically but I can't find a use for it in practice.
dull juniper
Anyone interested here in a penance hunt?
noble zenith
emperor bless my luck today, 2 bots and 1 random
dull juniper
Nicely done.
noble zenith
spam surge staff helps your Peril to be always high lol
i think it's the best build to get this penance
rocky cedar
Duelling sword is nice but its crit headshot damage feels a bit low TBH. I like it but I kinda miss VT2 rapier
Also no cleave blessings handicaps it a bit for horde control
fast swan
NEED a force staff skin like this
arctic plinth
lvling up a psyker atm, what ends up being out form of dmg to bosses that spawn
proven hazel
brain burst if its a plague ogyrn
beasts of nurgle are a bit harder to deal with but its usually the staff
arctic plinth
ah yeah, i had a feeling it might end up being the burst
proven hazel
yea
its only because they take extra damage from headshots
at 4 charges they melt
rocky cedar
We're still owed chaos spawn no?
haughty schooner
plague marine?
round charm
that pink tentacle thing from vt2?
proven hazel
wow... thanks emperor...
I mean I shouldnt be complaining because it increases the overall quality of items i can get
but still
couldnt have been a force sword with deflector could it??
weary idol
Also no cleave blessings handicaps it a bit for horde control
it has uncanny strike and rampage
rending does infact make infested take more damage, and rampage is rampage
north cradle
emperor bless my luck today, 2 bots and 1 random
Knowing my luck, those Shotgunners would have blown off my torso before I exploded
What difficulty?
manic needle
Does anyone have the formula for peril block cost saved?
lapis bay
Oh no
rocky cedar
it has uncanny strike and rampage
I meant blessings that increase cleave, but good point about rending
weary idol
oh
tired cosmos
Just hit lvl 30, what is best feats to take? I want to run some staff build either purgatus or something else
I was told 2 1 1 1 3 3, 3 1 1 3 3 2
So many different things
Also 3-2-1-1-1-2
And should I run voidstrike instead of purgatus?
Thanks for help anyone can offer
deft fiber
And should I run voidstrike instead of purgatus?
Run whatever you like tho. Except trauma, trauma sucks.
I run 1 2 2 1 3 3, build around BB and special ability resetting + purgatus for horde clear and a bit of control.
tired cosmos
@deft fiber hi so question I'm lvl 30 but haven't done anything above lvl 3 because I am disabled. I can't move my arms
Quickly enough
I have 2 friends a zealot and a veteran I play with
If I try to go past rank 3 maps what do uvthink I should try to play my psyker as, because I go down a lot. Like curios should they be health or toughness. Or staff should I be as far back as possible
Does that change feats?
deft fiber
Well, if you have a friend to play it's easier to fill every role and don't overlap a lot. If you have problems as you said you can take surge staff, so you will give a lot of control.
And surge doesn't require precision and and such thing.
As for feats.
tired cosmos
So surge is more like support?
deft fiber
Yes. It has fine dmg vs armoured enemies but most important give control. Can even stop mutie from charge.
tired cosmos
I have a crappy deflector sword that helps I got at like 15 I've been using. I haven't found another one. I use it to help stay alive
deft fiber
On higher difficulties cooperation much more important that your personal skill.
Except clutch moments ofc, but it's another story.
tired cosmos
Okay so I still use those same feats u listed with surge staff?
deft fiber
You can. But if you don't use Brain Burst much to snipe elites and specialists you can just go 1 2 1 1 3 3. So you gain warp charges passively instead of refreshing cooldown of special ability.
tired cosmos
And what curios would u recommend? Health percent, Toughness, wounds?
Also do u know if block efficiency works with deflector?
deft fiber
I personally run toughness. I don't really know what a general conclusion on curios. Toughness + toughness + gunner resists + whatever random gives you.
deft fiber
That's fine too i guess. Can tak +1 wounds if you are not confident and go down a lot.
tired cosmos
That's any ranged?
deft fiber
There are a lot of confusing things in DT no worries.
tired cosmos
Yes my last curio is a wound one
Are block efficiency stats % good?
I have about 30% total
tired cosmos
Okay so should I buy a gray or green surge staff and upgrade that? Or try to find anyone? Does surgestsff have a best ability that I should look for
uneven swift
For curios I personally run +health, +stam and +wound
If you go down a lot you can just stack health like a madman
Block Efficiency is good if you run Force Sword with Deflector + Kinetic Deflection
tired cosmos
I try to look this info online but I don't see it compiled anywhere like tierlist or anything
@uneven swift yes niko I have force sword with deflector but it'd low lvl, and I have block efficiency on a number of items so that's good?
uneven swift
<@395213952034013186> yes niko I have force sword with deflector but it'd low lv...
Yes should be fine, it allows you to pull out your sword and hold block if you're ever in a bad situation
Wouldn't use it on anything other than Force Sword tho
tired cosmos
@uneven swift ok thanks
deft fiber
Okay so should I buy a gray or green surge staff and upgrade that? Or try to fin...
Not really. Just find one with good quell speed and warp resist. Charge speed is a dump stat since you shouldn't charge special attack. Crit bonus and dmg are secondary stats. Perks are not that important but + flak/carapace dmg would be fine as well as crit chance. For blessings it's not that important as well, but warp nexus and may be focused channeling.
tired cosmos
I forget what surge staff attack looks like is that the lightning one?@deft fiber
Sorry for being stupid
uneven swift
ye
deft fiber
Yes.
tired cosmos
Okay cool
Haven't used it in a while
That's should help me since I can't use my arms well I can't be peecise
Percise
deft fiber
Void is good, but require precision since you need to aim for heads. Purge is good horde clear, you kill everything except Bulwarks and Crushers.
And have a bit of CC on LMB attack.
But yeah, surge is easiest one to use in your situation.
tired cosmos
@deft fiber oh shoot I'm sorry edax, what was the feat for surge again I forgot. I'm sorry im in hospital and my memory is messed up from seizure
Feat list
I'm writing it doen
Down
You've been a big help, you and niko
proud kettle
so 🤔
deft fiber
I'm writing it doen
warp nexus and may be focused channeling.
tired cosmos
@deft fiber oh sorry I mean like the talents like 1 1 2
proud kettle
Photoshop<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I hope so xD
unborn basalt
Hey guys, trying to get done pick n mix, any rec on what feat to take, right now I have it set like this
deft fiber
<@194882577121804298> oh sorry I mean like the talents like 1 1 2
1 2 1 1 3 3 if you gonna use BB.
1 2 1 1 1 2 if you want make your special ability like a nuke. Gain 6 charges and F to the horde. It will melt from dot.
uneven swift
Hey guys, trying to get done pick n mix, any rec on what feat to take, right now...
As long as your last feat is n.3 it should be fine I think
IMHO try to find a group for pick'n mix
tired cosmos
@deft fiber thanks so much
deft fiber
<@194882577121804298> thanks so much
No worries.
Arguably you can take 2(kinetic shield) at lvl 20, but it's up to you.
mental vortex
out of all the staves I could have been gifted...
deft fiber
🇫
mental vortex
at this point they are just insulting me
tired cosmos
Do yall keep weapons or barter them
deft fiber
Go and buy.
mental vortex
Do yall keep weapons or barter them
I dont believe that we will get full crafting and 20 classes in 2 days shit
so I just sell them
patience has its limits
tired cosmos
When is next update supposed to come out? I thought we got one every week?
mental vortex
oh you foolish thing
tired cosmos
Or did it come out already
deft fiber
Do yall keep weapons or barter them
Well, any 370-380 base you can buy, depending on dump stat ofc.
360-370 just as upgrade if you haven't any better.
<360 more like blessings storage if we will get functionally crafting.
deft fiber
Stat that not important.
deft fiber
<@194882577121804298> ok so for surge staff what would that be
Just find one with good quell speed and warp resist.
tired cosmos
@deft fiber I found a gray one I can buy should I upgrade this?
It'd only one I can have now
deft fiber
Warp res is kinda meh, but just for begging it's fine. You can run it and be fine, no needs for upgrade.
tired cosmos
Okay so I should prob wait 22 min for reroll?
deft fiber
Well, i wouldn't push my luck. Just get it and play with it till you find a better one.
tired cosmos
Did u give a number I should look for on warp resist and quell speed I forget
deft fiber
80% is max for any stat. Than closer then better.
tired cosmos
Ok thanks
grizzled harness
im guessing I should replace maniac?
mental vortex
yeah
hoary shadow
good ?
valid marsh
finesse could be better but it looks fine
fast swan
damn, upon testing it seems that having exactly 80 power on void staff is essential for headshotting the head armored melee dregs
if ur void staff is 97% damage a fully charged orb leaves it with 1 hp
just gotta keep rerolling until i find perfection 😔
probably other breakpoints on elites but clearing chaff if what is most important and the most fun when a single orb headshots 30 fodder
is blast radius just the explosion when the void ball hits a surface or heavy enemy?
tulip drum
is item base level completely random at the shop? I'm basically praying to RNGesus to bless me with a useful 380?
deft fiber
is item base level completely random at the shop? I'm basically praying to RNGe...
Yea. But it's mostly about stats distribution. Even 330 can be good if 1 minor stat dumped.
tulip drum
ok thanks...was hoping there was a way to get items more on the higher end of the scale, but thanks FatShark lol
deft fiber
Yeah. Just check shop every hour bro, nothing hard to do.
minor pelican
What's a good tactic for the psyker lightning stavee?
uneven swift
What's a good tactic for the psyker lightning stavee?
spam rmb, win
tired estuary
ideally spam it on disablers (DOGS) or big spooky piles of ogryn
deft fiber
Yeah, just elites, specialists and armored enemies. Don't use it on a horde.
tired estuary
Its okay to use on marksman mobs when there's nothing else around + you're in range, rmb to set up lmb headshot if vet isn't pressing F and shooting everything for some raisin
mental vortex
What's a good tactic for the psyker lightning stavee?
troll mutants trappers hounds reapers and gunners and if no specials present try to stun scabs
unborn basalt
as a psyker what should I be searching for in my curios?
ornate hamlet
as a psyker what should I be searching for in my curios?
- peril resist
manic needle
So glad I already have a good Voidstrike so that I dont have to be mad about these rolls
ornate hamlet
as a psyker what should I be searching for in my curios?
jokes aside, i prefer these:
silver ermine
Between these two Duelling Swords. Which one is better.
proven hazel
the force sword with deflection that you dont have yet
silver ermine
Already got it, but I just prefer the playstyle of Duelling V Sword
silver ermine
The dodge, heavy strike and mobility.
manic needle
- Passive Quell of a non-force weapon
proven hazel
passive quell is barely even a benefit
manic needle
I imagine the bottom one is better but Duelling sword isnt my jam
Quelling while attacking isnt a benefit to you?
Spam R then
Force Sword is a fine weapon but acting like its the only viable option aint it cheif
proven hazel
its not the only viable option but its definitely the best
manic needle
For some builds, maybe
proven hazel
for all builds
silver ermine
Playstyle diff, I guess.
manic needle
Playstyle diff, I guess.
Yeah Im done arguing with people who think there's only 1-2 build options for Psyker. If you havent figured out the advantage of using other melee weapons besides FS at this point youre probably not going to
proven hazel
the advantage is just so inconsequential compared to the benefits of a proper force sword though
grizzled harness
if youre good youll make any weapon work
proven hazel
yeah but having a weapon work and having a weapon decimate is a world of difference
idk the melee weapons arent the core of psyker
they're to be used to supplement the secondary
proven hazel
if you can hit heads it does
but you really shouldnt be using it unless you have to
which is why deflector is so good
because it gives it a viable use
manic needle
My man's really out here headshotting individual poxwalkers and claiming no other weapon can be better than FS
wew lad
silver ermine
lolz
manic needle
Yeah exactly
proven hazel
yeah but you should be using staffs for that
silver ermine
Staffs aren't always reliable though.
proven hazel
only if you arent managing your peril properly
you ARE managing your peril properly right??
silver ermine
Be easier to just pull a horde and play the marathon game and come back with a relieved team
proven hazel
idk about all that
silver ermine
It's workable with Duelling sword because of the huge dodge distance and heavy swing mobility
proven hazel
still it seems like a waste of time
you can burn down a pack of enemies in a few seconds with a staff
silver ermine
Assuming you're able to use it
manic needle
still it seems like a waste of time
Like headshotting individual poxwalkers with FS
silver ermine
Losing a match is a waste of time though
proven hazel
Like headshotting individual poxwalkers with FS
only need to do that in downtime
proven hazel
Assuming you're able to use it
why would you not be able to use it
manic needle
Which will be shorter with passive quell + you can use a weapon with cleave and clear more in that shorter time frame
So again it depends on your build
proven hazel
not talking about peril downtime talking about combat downtime
when theres only a few enemies around
manic needle
If youre using a staff with strong horde clear like voidstrike I roll force sword every time
silver ermine
If you somehow got seperated by your team with a horde in your face, you using the staff wont exactly save you
proven hazel
it can quite easily do that
silver ermine
Maybe on Malice
proven hazel
spam flame staff a bit press f and the horde is gone
I've done that on damnation before
silver ermine
Depends on Damnation and horde density
Small hordes, sure. Endless spam packs, you better find the opportunity otherwise its mostly you in melee
proven hazel
alright but with endless spam packs why would you not be with your team
like genuinely
silver ermine
I dunno. A mutant grabbed me and threw across the field.
Or my team got separated from one another from the chaos.
A lot of things can happen really.
cyan notch
i like duelling sword on surge
one downside about fs is its push attack does no damage unlike other weapons where you can stunlock hordes and do damage at the same time
you also move way faster with ds which is fun too
silver ermine
Yeah. The dodge distance is insane.
olive ember
proven hazel
they should add a big nurgle frog in the update
cyan notch
sounds mid
manic needle
Chaos Spawn my beloved...
proven hazel
sounds mid
more interesting than a daemonhost
cyan notch
maybe maybe not
proven hazel
definitely more interesting than a daemonhost
I don't like it when games have enemies that are specifically designed not to be killed
its boring
if they wanted to force alternate paths then they could just have a big flesh tumour spawn there or something
cyan notch
noted with thanks
left basin
has there been a psyker unfuckening yet
proven hazel
no
ornate hamlet
has there been a psyker unfuckening yet
no, and yet, how many Ogryn players do you see compared to Psyker players?
i haven't seen an ogryn in like 20 matches 😄
foggy tangle
I see a lot of everything
cyan notch
i got a few double ogryn matches recently
clear heath
I feel like i see ogryns more often than psykers recently
mighty pike
they should add a big nurgle frog in the update
This would be very good. Bonus points if it's otherwise a normal frog
proven hazel
maybe it looks like a normal frog but then turns into a big frog
mighty pike
Frog-to-toad evolution
proven hazel
yeah
but also it just has a chance of being a normal frog
idk that would be entertaining
mighty pike
Maybe like rats that can talk? Or fight maybe
idle bay
Or cultist wearing rat-themed onesie
And speaking in double-speak
Wait... even better - rat-themed furry-cultists!
wet raven
they should add rats to darktide
They have them, they are cooked and kabob'd by the hack me terminal in the train map
sharp lava
Running Force Sword for Specials/Bosses and Purge staff for hordes currently, is that a decent setup in your view? Can't get the damn deflector trait though. And what stats should I prioritise on the purge staff?
wet raven
Running Force Sword for Specials/Bosses and Purge staff for hordes currently, is...
Burn quell cloud radius and the other 2 don't really matter
sharp lava
Thanks; same question for Force Sword?
wet raven
Though cloud radius 60 is enough
sharp lava
Shame it's the only 'force' melee weapon, given the loads in the lore - force rod, force axe, force greatsword, force maul etc.
wet raven
Thanks; same question for Force Sword?
Think mobility dump stat and that's about it if i remember
It's been ages since playing darktide since no crafting means no experimenting
sharp lava
I'm gradually leveling all chars to 30 for fun more than anything
Vet done, Zealot and Ogryn c20, Psyker just into teens
Painful going so far on Psyker comparatively
Feels like it takes much longer to start coming online than the other classes
wet raven
Ye its just painful leveling because it's so clear they were intended to have the reset mechanic while playing
wet raven
Psy was the easiest for me due to well roundedness and the fact you don't need to scale until heresy in which you don't scale at all :>
wet raven
Also the brainburst mechanic needs a lot of tuning IMO
Yeah I heard it was pretty op in beta but they nerfed it before people got to try the full game so idk what if anything they are gonna do to it, my bets on nothing and just release a better subclass under a dlc
sharp lava
It would be better as some sort of FnF dot, IMO, 'contagion' style
wet raven
As the way this game is handled is painfully close to destiny 1 vanilla
sharp lava
Yeah the way they've released this game is very odd compared to the Vermintide 1 & 2 launches
I suspect Tencent involvement.
wet raven
It would be better as some sort of FnF dot, IMO, 'contagion' style
It just needs to scale off current health kinda like how mecrees dead eye works in overwatch then be balanced appropriately, also fix targeting to require pin point precision so you can stop getting cu'd by hoards when you're being rushed by ragers
jovial gust
Is Psyker any good after some progress?
sharp lava
Mine's notably better at 15 than L1 aye, I hear it gets very good with the last talent for aoe soulfire bombing
wet raven
Yeah the way they've released this game is very odd compared to the Vermintide 1...
Corpo/management says your game isn't good enough at making money and your design sucks redo all of it in the next year before the sales quarter cough crafting cough
Destiny was told their story was campy, so thanks to management the story was ripped out of the game and put into 2...dlcs? And a "expansion"
wet raven
Is Psyker any good after some progress?
Unless they buffed it your still only optimal with soul fire shenanigans or ss
mighty pike
Veteran definitely feels the least interesting personally. My ultimate is what I'm doing anyway but slightly zoomed in
cyan notch
gun mc shootface
mighty pike
Is Psyker any good after some progress?
With the right feats and loadout you can do some interesting things. That's as much as I'd say really. You're not useless
ornate hamlet
Veteran definitely feels the least interesting personally. My ultimate is what I...
Vet pretty much is just "so, you wanted to play an Imperial Guard game?"
mighty pike
Vet pretty much *is* just "so, you wanted to play an Imperial Guard game?"
And then they don't give you imperial guard armour
jovial gust
With the right feats and loadout you can do some interesting things. That's as m...
I doubt it would make the Psyker better than other classes.
covert ermine
After deleting stacks of heavily armored ogryns on t5 with vets bolter psyker feels underpowered
ornate hamlet
Love it but I wish the store wasnt so fucked so I could feel better playing Psyker lmao
It would be my fav if I could get any good weaps from the shop
Ive been living off Emp's Gifts basically since beta
mighty pike
After deleting stacks of heavily armored ogryns on t5 with vets bolter psyker fe...
Yeah as psyker you're a gap-filler and supporting class, not a heavy lifter in that way
mighty pike
I doubt it would make the Psyker better than other classes.
It doesn't
cyan notch
dont worry guys!!! theres heartening news interally!! we cant tell you though!!! just trust us guys its gonna be so great!!! its coming anytime from today to an indefinite point in the future!
covert ermine
Yeah as psyker you're a gap-filler and supporting class, not a heavy lifter in t...
You can burn things with purgatus but that's pretty much it on t5 — poor mans flamethrower
ornate hamlet
dont worry guys!!! theres heartening news interally!! we cant tell you though!!!...
At least we didnt get another "this isnt cod" or "immeasurably complex" lmao
mighty pike
Psyker's advantage to me is that with the right gear you can be doing whatever anyone else isn't at any given time. Nobody dealing with the horde? I can do that ok. Nobody is taking out the elites quickly enough? I can do that ok. &c.
All that said brainburst isn't a very interesting ability as a base concept. They considered someone with access to warp powers and their best concept was "make them do armour piercing damage at range"
uneven swift
I dunno, I'm legit starting to think that Palpatine Psyker is the 2nd best class to bring on T5
Not because psyker is strong, but because Surge Force staff is so goddamn good at countering pretty much all the bs damnation throws your way
clear heath
It's always nice to have a surge user on the team
tired estuary
Psyker is v good at specific things and surge is one of those
mighty pike
Surge is very good for removing threats. Unfortunately using it doesn't feel very impactful for me in terms of it's feeling to use
tired estuary
yeah lots of people don't like using it lol
clear heath
fair
i find it pretty satisfying to stop a bunch of enemies from hitting a teammate from far away though
tired estuary
yeah idk I like it still
cyan notch
i love using it
clear heath
best feeling is stunning a crusher about to slam a dude
tired estuary
rn I switch between fs deflector + purg and w/e horde clear + surge
clear heath
I use fs with surge
mighty pike
Purgatus feels so good with the warp whispers and the thunder crashes
uneven swift
best feeling is stunning a crusher about to slam a dude
yeah, or stunning a mutant/hound that grabbed a teammate, pushing bursters... love it
mighty pike
Purgatus feels so good with the warp whispers and the thunder crashes
Surge feels underwhelming in comparison
clear heath
Surge feels underwhelming in comparison
don't say that
they'll change the vfx again and blind us
clear heath
it was so bad
mighty pike
Personally I think they need to change the staff melee attack into another magic ability. Something interesting
clear heath
i just focused to the side of my screen and watched from my peripheral vision to avoid the blinding flashes
mighty pike
Darktide is an intriguing game
ornate hamlet
Personally I think they need to change the staff melee attack into another magic...
I was REALLY surprised when I tried to use the ability for the first time and it was just... a smack. It felt like a joke
craggy willow
That's one way to say it.
violet thorn
best feeling is stunning a crusher about to slam a dude
yea I can take on 10 crushers
tired estuary
Personally I think they need to change the staff melee attack into another magic...
If they do this I'd rather they do it with new different variations of staves
clear heath
I'm amazed that the staff bonks actually have some pretty unique animations, rather than just 1 plain bonk
like, someone put effort into the staff bonk
why
mighty pike
If they do this I'd rather they do it with new different variations of staves
But then we have extra staffs with extra abilities and more grinding etc. And still a useless special attack
mighty pike
That's one way to say it.
Still lurking hmm
tired estuary
I mean they could give them better specials. Also I'd rather have more staves in shop and less guns
clear heath
I'd rather the shop system just not suck
mighty pike
I just want my warp powers to feel cool 😦
"REACHING INTO THE WARP" I scream, as I trip up three poxwalkers coming towards me
idle bay
I've just met very interesting Ogryn on Heresy, who just deleted whole hordes in seconds with a Latrine Shovel and some animation-cancel trickery.
mighty pike
Those abhumans are unusual
idle bay
Start of the swing and then start of the swing again unnaturally fast
proven hazel
idle bay
Those abhumans are unusual
I asked around - and so far only thing i've got is Brutal Momentum on Latrine Shovel makes miracles.... But'm not buying it! It was clearly some animation-cancel trickery 🙂 And i want to learn it 🙂
dawn orchid
I just want my warp powers to feel cool 😦
Same, a lot of the powers feel like dogshit to use. Either because they're ineffective or just unfun, or both.
gleaming belfry
mighty pike
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909443112
"Recon lasgun" 😩😞
solar loom
I think a solid las pistol build is pretty badass
dawn orchid
Weapon needs way more ammo for its offensive ability
solar loom
Yea, you're not wrong
I mean, it's not anywhere close to the best weapon in the game, I'm talking purely aesthetically.
dawn orchid
Running on vet is very questionable, running it on psyk is just pointless
solar loom
It does get a special power on psyker
dawn orchid
Which is?
solar loom
It's special does a force push that generates 10 peril and it has a super fast passive quell speed, so basically you can just hit your special button to gain 5% toughness back and knock enemies back as often as you want with the Quietude perk.
dawn orchid
The fast quell speed is for every non force weapon, just fyi
dawn orchid
I'll take a look at the push, it might just be the same as the force sword
solar loom
It's not like a super powerful thing, but you can actually build around it.
dawn orchid
Can build around it =/= is good to build around it
solar loom
Like, you can pump up 100 peril before getting out of cover and just be in a shootout while your toughness regens at a crazy rate.
Right, again, I'm not saying it's a super good build
It just has all the synergies needed for it to be potentially good, if Fatshark cared about balancing weapons.
warped perch
Is biomancer actually gonna be added at some point? I thought I heard someone say they datamined it 
dawn orchid
They're doing subclasses
solar loom
Biomancer was the old name for the Psykinetic, so I don't think so.
dawn orchid
There was another one in the files called biomancer, just fyi
wet jacinth
dawn orchid
That was separate from the psyk
wet jacinth
How much copium are we consuming today?
dawn orchid
Depends on the topic at hand
solar loom
We'll see what they come up with. I would like to have a psyker subclass that is more focused on staff use and not built around a crappy blitz slot ability.
dawn orchid
Or have that ability actually be fun to use and comparatively good
limpid veldt
Hello
dawn orchid
There's no laspistol in my shop to test it unfortunately
wet jacinth
Imean ability is used to quell so you can keep using abilities/push.
It's quite literally like a shout in vermintide
dawn orchid
It's comparatively doodoo
solar loom
The problem with Brain Burst is that it doesn't scale on anything, so you basically start with a mid game weapon built into your character and it feels super powerful, but then it never upgrades to endgame levels.
steel egret
There was another one in the files called biomancer, just fyi
General impression is that current class of psyker is supposedly that since its a mix of multiple classes
wet jacinth
Warp charges exist.
steel egret
But thats just guess work.
dawn orchid
I wish they didn't tbh
wet jacinth
Also flayer can proc on brain bursts netting a double BB shot
dawn orchid
Needless tedium that forces you to take passively generating talents for just a mediocre benefit
It can, with a very low chance. Once every 15 seconds.
wet jacinth
The occasional burst of damage that also gains you warp charges if it kills bigger threats or a chaff
sour bison
How much copium are we consuming today?
A lot
dawn orchid
Yeah, but one bb every 15 seconds is nothing.
You could make a case for it if it reduced the cd on hit but with the static cd on top of being so long, just really is there to keep charges up.
steep shuttle
Anyone else play tank psyker
solar loom
I just ignore charges and it makes everything way more efficient. I can kill a dozen guys in the time it would take me to worry about maintaining a charge that doesn't give enough damage to push breakpoints much anyways.
cyan notch
yea i use battery except for surge
wet jacinth
Battery is if you really want to cap on damage from warp charges/6 stacks for other feats w/e
6 charge CD/6 stack of Soul blaze
dawn orchid
I'm just so incredibly unimpressed by the psyker class as a whole, they could've made it so much more fun/satisfying. It's perhaps the most conceptually open class you could have.
wet jacinth
I forget how much each charge gives damage %
cyan notch
I'll take a look at the push, it might just be the same as the force sword
really high range push like 15m or something and throws maniac armour enemies on their back
dawn orchid
I forget how much each charge gives damage %
3%
For an impressive total of 12% with standard max charges
dawn orchid
It's certainly there
dawn orchid
I wouldn't call it impressive
light citrus
Use this
wet jacinth
thats like... a little over a single blessing :>
You use battery more for stacks than the damage bonus
wet raven
You use battery more for stacks than the damage bonus
and lose out on free headpops every 15 which not only helps maintain stacks but can dps out elites
dawn orchid
Assuming it doesn't proc on a random zombie
wet jacinth
Assuming it doesn't proc on a random zombie
That's a guaranteed warp charge is the thing.
dawn orchid
Helpful for maintaining stacks though
wet raven
you can control it with minimal effort the same way you can baby sit your charges
wet jacinth
Bigger threats it just chunks hp or possibly kills
dawn orchid
If you're not hitting things ever then sure
mighty pike
It's always a poxwalker though let's be real
wet raven
If you're not hitting things ever then sure
just gotta hit the right things first
mighty pike
A preference for elites would go a long way
violet thorn
It's always a poxwalker though let's be real
its the poxwalker a single pixel next to the sniper
mighty pike
Considering it seems like we were originally meant to be the anti-elite class
solar loom
The problem with Psyker as a class is simply that almost all of its internal synergies revolve around brain bursting all day long and brain burst is kind of an unimpressive ability.
wet jacinth
It's always a poxwalker though let's be real
shrugs
In my own experience using it. It always seemed to prioritize elites/Ogryns in mixed hordes
wet raven
Considering it seems like we were originally meant to be the anti-elite class
you were but vets do it better
to a scary degree //`o
mighty pike
you were but vets do it better
I'm glad Cadia blew up
wet raven
I'm glad Cadia blew up
but thats heresy kindred
solar loom
And for that mtter, even if Brainburst was outstanding, it would still suck to play a class where your weapons do nothing.
wet jacinth
The problem with Psyker as a class is simply that almost all of its internal syn...
Me who runs passive warp charge gaining feats with Soul blaze ult
mighty pike
but thats heresy kindred
I said what we're all thinking
dawn orchid
just gotta hit the right things first
Just hit the right things at the random right time by mentally keeping track of the cooldown all game long
wet raven
I said what we're all thinking
to the blackship with you
wet jacinth
shrugs
light citrus
Just remove the CD of flayer, we can stronger than vet
wet jacinth
Just remove the CD of flayer, we can stronger than vet
Reduce*
dawn orchid
Like, it's cool if it happens to get something while you're doing things normally. But it's not exactly something worth the mental effort to keep track of all the time.
wet jacinth
If flayer had no cooldown. Then the proc chance would have to be lower
mighty pike
light citrus
or 50% 5 second
wet jacinth
or 50% 5 second
I pray you realize how strong that is.
dawn orchid
My vote: Reduces cooldown on hit. Even with no other changes it'd lend some legitimacy to gun psyker as a playstyle without strictly being an inferior vet in every way.
wet raven
If flayer had no cooldown. Then the proc chance would have to be lower
considerably, pls keep in mind psy has access to recon D laz gun, thing has 103 round mag with a fire rate of 16.77 per sec
solar loom
The passive gain is not a substitute for brain bursting unfortunately. 4% chance on a kill means your coherency hs to kill about one enemy every second just to maintain charges, let alone gain more of them.
light citrus
this need tune to 10%
solar loom
Sometimes you'll get tons of charges from that, but they will most likely drop off while you walk between rooms.
It used to be higher, they nerfed it.
wet raven
this need tune to 10%
4% seems bad but surprisingly it will give you max warp charges if there is ever a single hoard, its surprisingly common to proc it
dawn orchid
Recon D also has terrible ammo efficiency with a very lackluster ttk, only being made somewhat competitive (but still considerably inferior to xii) by the possibility of a very well rolled infernus setup. Which is extremely difficult to craft.
wet raven
between that and flayer i maintained max charges 280 seconds without trying to keep them
dawn orchid
I say this as someone who likes recon d infernus
wet raven
Recon D also has terrible ammo efficiency with a very lackluster ttk, only being...
true but its still fun af :>
dawn orchid
I like my mini gatling laser visually but it's not competitive unless you god roll one
wet raven
and its triple the dps of any staff, i just use it to clear gunners and little else
dawn orchid
Well, the staffs aren't exactly dps powerhouses
solar loom
It's just far from ideal. I really wish they would do something with warp chrges so you can use a charge to fire off a more powerful brain burst that actually does some real work.
The staves are good for hordes and crowd control, but on bosses they choke, ye
wet raven
Well, the staffs aren't exactly dps powerhouses
ive found any staff has about 1/3 the dps of any normal gun :V
dawn orchid
That's also another gripe of mine with the psyker class
mighty pike
Ours is not killing potential unless it's against elites
solar loom
I mean, if brain burst was good against bosses this wouldn't be an issue.
wet raven
its just confirmation space magic is bad and faith is all you need
mighty pike
Let's not forget we give everyone +15% damage Vs elites by just being near us. Those bolter veterans should be thanking us really
wet raven
I mean, if brain burst was good against bosses this wouldn't be an issue.
all they need to do is buff warp charges to 5% from 3%
it will indirectly make BB good
wet raven
Let's not forget we give everyone +15% damage Vs elites by just being near us. T...
10% and i bolter on vet is a waste
solar loom
It would still be a really unsatisfying way to play the game to be pigeonholed into using BB all the time.
dawn orchid
Class needs a rework imo, feels like it was cobbled together from scraps.
Very uninspired
mighty pike
10% and i bolter on vet is a waste
solar loom
Warp charges should be like grenades, you gain them by doing something and then spend them to brainburst the everloving daylights out of things.
craggy willow
Still lurking hmm
||So long as certain zealots keep horny posting every night.||
mighty pike
Let's not lose faith siblings we're still the coolest on the battlefield. We're literally cold as ice
mighty pike
||So long as certain zealots keep horny posting every night.||
Horny posting about what
craggy willow
Yes.
dawn orchid
Cold and dead
wet raven
https://tenor.com/view/wednesday-addams-2022-eyes-eye-gif-27160269
ammo inefficient, insanely bad hit reg, inconsistent stagger, and does terribly into carapace even with appropriate perk :V
cyan notch
10% and i bolter on vet is a waste
yea
dawn orchid
Rending bolter absolutely shreds anything, although it can eat up ammo but that's more an intended weakness for how strong it can be.
violet thorn
yea
"Stability is a dumpstat"
but yea this vid gives me agita
after the 4th shot I would of said "fuck it, this is the Ogryns problem now"
pinged it and ran like hell
mighty pike
I would have pushed it over and laughed
sharp lava
What's the rending trait do?
violet thorn
I would have pushed it over and laughed
they like to jump and glitch at the worst of times
I used to do that until I started doing Heresys
dawn orchid
What's the rending trait do?
Stacking damage boost on hit for 5s
orchid venture
got sick of veterans doing my job but better, so I took a purge staff to my next run so I could clear hoards instead, and apparently a bolter is better at that too
dawn orchid
Oh excuse me, stacking armor pen
mighty pike
got sick of veterans doing my job but better, so I took a purge staff to my next...
Okay but:
magic nebula
What's the rending trait do?
Rending provides 'you' with armorpen stacks, while making an enemy brittle provides the same bonus for anyone hitting it.
violet thorn
got sick of veterans doing my job but better, so I took a purge staff to my next...
nah bolter eats too much for that
magic nebula
got sick of veterans doing my job but better, so I took a purge staff to my next...
If your team allows someone to just horde-clear with a bolter, I assume nobody else cares about ammo.
wet raven
got sick of veterans doing my job but better, so I took a purge staff to my next...
naw, their grenade is better at that -smirks-
light citrus
if still no need ammo on guns for psyker
violet thorn
naw, their grenade is better at that -smirks-
me watching some use their nades on a horde only to have none when someone gets downed
light citrus
perhap the prolem solve
violet thorn
wet raven
me watching some use their nades on a horde only to have none when someone gets ...
just dont get downed, ya bone'ead
violet thorn
just dont get downed, ya bone'ead
tell that to lv lv 6 knife Zealot on Heresy
wet raven
tell that to lv lv 6 knife Zealot on Heresy
i will, because if you have knife on zealot you should be fine for 70% of the match XP
wet raven
ive ran near damageless heresy missions with tac axe i think knife kindred can do the same :V
orchid venture
well I'm already not picking up a single bullet, so the vet didn't need any of the 4 ammo boxes we found that run
light citrus
instant kill is require for BB
orchid venture
stg if I take a surge staff next time and a vet is better at that too I'm just gonna move on to the next class, get Ogryn to 30 instead
light citrus
we are no cannon but still glass
wet raven
stg if I take a surge staff next time and a vet is better at that too I'm just g...
stg?
orchid venture
swear to god
wet raven
both me and my friend incog were psy mains starting out, but after i showed him just how ridiculous vet gets (causually killing every specialist including crushers before a single brain burst could go off) he has swapped to every other class in the game (once he was done getting that sweet sweet drip of course :>)
i play zealot waiting on psy to git gud
light citrus
you can play psyker just like you play zealot
wet raven
infact i do XP thats why i run duelist and recon d/revolver
dawn orchid
🤮
teal kite
me watching some use their nades on a horde only to have none when someone gets ...
I used to nade hordes when I started, now it's clear the grenades are better used to help Rez someone
solar loom
Yea, only shield Ogryn is actually tanky.
light citrus
Psyker can do everything but other do the thing better than you, No reason to play psyker
Multi tier RNG class
light citrus
glass gambler
wet belfry
Id say we have better AOE, CC then the veteran
But on every other department the psyker is indeed weaker.
magic nebula
Does any class rule CC as much as Psyker?
light citrus
Zealot Ogryn
magic nebula
Oggies does a frakking good job at it, but they´re easily second.
craggy willow
In their base kit, without the proper weapons and feats? I dunno that anybody does it like Oggies and Siblings
Besides frag grenades ofc
magic nebula
Sure, give any other class unlimited resources and they could CC well.
mighty pike
we are no cannon but still glass
Glass barbed wire
violet thorn
In their base kit, without the proper weapons and feats? I dunno that anybody do...
define "base kit"
frail lotus
Hey everyone, im trying to get a group together to get the Malleus Monstronum Penance. Ill be on most of the day and can return the favor and help with other penances!
violet thorn
cause unless the 2 staffs are base Psyker most certainty has no wave clear
echo parrot
Looks like I am adding a new ball to the roulette
craggy willow
define "base kit"
I realized that was far from the proper term as soon as I said it lol. I should say based on their "available resources" as a whole instead
solar loom
I think psyker still has the strongest general firepower simply because you have an AoE weapon that you can basically fire non stop t everything without a care in the world.
violet thorn
I think psyker still has the strongest general firepower simply because you have...
I mean that AoE isnt that much damage overall
craggy willow
A proper RPG, Darktide is most certainly not
magic nebula
Psykers rule at CC, they also does so at range.
Any other job they´re in second place at best, but that's still fine.
violet thorn
A proper RPG, Darktide is most certainly not
I would hope not unless you consider L4D a RPG
craggy willow
I would hope not unless you consider L4D a RPG
I could only dream
magic nebula
Yes, it's almost as if that means you´re second place at best dealing with hordes. At no resource detriment to the team.
dawn orchid
I think psyker still has the strongest general firepower simply because you have...
Purge? Damage is a bit lacking compared to the flamer, and you do have to stop casting it
light citrus
you can do everthing, but nothing did better other
solar loom
I mean that AoE isnt that much damage overall
That's not the point though. There are tons of enemies that still die in one hit, even on the hardest difficulties, and you're just non-stop attacking with serious ordnance that other classes would pay for dearly in terms of ammo.
dawn orchid
I wouldn't consider the purge staff to be serious ordinance
magic nebula
Purge? Damage is a bit lacking compared to the flamer, and you do have to stop c...
Have you tried reloading a flamer? Wouldn't say that's fast. They also cost ammo.
light citrus
That's not the point though. There are tons of enemies that still die in one hit...
Psyker can bomb yourself
dawn orchid
Yes, but you get much more in terms of consecutive use out of it, and more damage.
solar loom
At least with the Voidstrike staff I tend to rack up more ranged kill by far than the rest of my team. I can often wipe out whole formations of enemies before the others can do any serious work. Even against tougher enemies I stagger them so much that while I can't kill them fast I can juggle them.
magic nebula
Psyker can bomb yourself
So can plasma-vets.
dawn orchid
Also it's very ammo efficient
light citrus
Give you inf money, then let you die now
teal kite
Yea, only shield Ogryn is actually tanky.
Wish more tank Ogrynz actually body blocked. When I'm psyker thona few times they have covered me well
teal kite
At least with the Voidstrike staff I tend to rack up more ranged kill by far tha...
Firing it through teammates specifically the Ogryn is a nice thing to have
light citrus
Ogryn need dmg delay
solar loom
Also a huge thing for me is that the staff has no friendly fire. Psykers are made to be in the back lines with that. You can hang out behind your team mates just hurling death balls at the enemy without any worry that someone catches them in the back.
echo parrot
Wish more tank Ogrynz actually body blocked. When I'm psyker thona few times the...
Very few things give psyker a since of safety and security like being queued with 3 ogryns.
light citrus
let us friendly fire, I will BB Vet first every round
echo parrot
Toxic
magic nebula
Why can birds swim?
dawn orchid
Also a huge thing for me is that the staff has no friendly fire. Psykers are mad...
There's no friendly fire in the game
Apart from barrels
Do you mean hit collision?
solar loom
I mean, staff attacks straight up pass through friendlis
magic nebula
There's no friendly fire in the game
Bullet tend to stop if you hit teammates though, so there's that.
solar loom
friendlies
dawn orchid
A few of them don't, grenade gauntlet passes through off the top of my head
magic nebula
Most of oggies pass through.
wet raven
Psyker can do everything but other do the thing better than you, No reason to pl...
except cc, psy has that in spades oddly enough
foggy tangle
What about for fun
dawn orchid
It does have the best cc short of killing things
But it's worth noting, death is the best cc
dawn orchid
And other classes tend to be much better at killing things
Therefore, the cc is offset by other considerations
light citrus
Psyker is the weaker class, the worst is balancing
teal kite
Very few things give psyker a since of safety and security like being queued wit...
I did a few of those and wow it was crazy lmao
dawn orchid
Ogryn has some design problems as well but its good weapons are GOOD
Bull butcher is comparable to a charged power sword
Grenade gauntlet is amazing at target deletion
light citrus
Psyker is a rich guy, have inf money, but never safe
fluid knot
Rumbler has the most utility of any weapon in the game too, even if damage isnt the highest
dawn orchid
Rumbler is very fun to use, but felt like it wasn't as practical as gg
Great disruption though
fluid knot
Not for single target no, but you cant shoot round corners with anything else neither
light citrus
Rumbler stop Hordes before it happen
fluid knot
Also a godsend if someone gets doggo'd when still on the upper bit of a dropdown, bounce it off the ceiling an it knocks the fucker off
light citrus
More than CC
wet raven
Rumbler is very fun to use, but felt like it wasn't as practical as gg
ive tried out most if not all their weapons and i feel rumbler is just their best one by far
perhaps the others scale better but i havent experienced it yet, still leveling (21)
light citrus
We are rich, so other class are our bodyguard
dawn orchid
It feels the most directly impactful because of the disruption
And you do need a particular setup for the grenade gauntlet to be practical
(Rending for example, you need it to kill harder targets)
wet raven
horde clear? sniping? stunning? armor pen? check!
cyan notch
horde