psyker-class

[long wharf]

did you know that you're playing on a PC and able to take screenshots with the very same device you play on?

try holding windows key shift s

[tired estuary]

nah the phone pics are cute keep rockin them

[bitter pelican]

They have character. Zest.

[austere estuary]

also might just be on discord on phone

[long wharf]

they have.. pixels

[austere estuary]

and does the job

[bitter pelican]

Everything has pixels.

[abstract cedar]

376 is a great roll but I'm skeptical about the blessings

[austere estuary]

okay

can confirm that this blessing also works on your ranged

[abstract cedar]

If you have All or Nothing on your melee weapon it affects your ranged damage? While you don't have the melee weapon in your hand?

[austere estuary]

yeep

[abstract cedar]

WHAT

[austere estuary]

just tested in psyk

probably applies to the force sword one based on peril too - makes a lot of sense too given the otherwise low value on it

[devout belfry]

Is it only 4% at max stamina? That's kinda ass.

[austere estuary]

4% damage and extra stagger etc passively is another good ol fashioned multiplier

[maiden sleet]

Probably 5% max stamina if it’s tier 4 lol

[austere estuary]

almost certainly

one or both (can't tell which and didn't do the math) of these also works - but drops off quickly

[mental vortex]

endgame is pain

moment I reached level 30 I remember Im still using a level 24 staff

and I have to check in every hour

and still no st aff

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/jqRAyXvJBTjn thoughts

[zenith zealot]

hi fellow psykers

how do u guys complete the "go out with the bang" penance?

[austere estuary]

okay this one doesn't work

on ranged I mean

so it must be the other one

[fluid zenith]

Kill 3 elite enemies on Malice (3 stripes) or higher with 1 Perils of the Warp explosion (when you cast something at 100% Peril)

[abstract cedar]

Get into a Malice game on a map that you remember the layout of. When a chokepoint or tight hallway is coming up, sprint ahead of your team and charge up before you get into the next room, then pop yourself in the middle of the specials that spawn there. Best spots are just before team doors or elevators.

[zenith zealot]

feel like whenever i blow myself up, it doesnt deal enough dmg

there's been times where i blew myself up after aggroing like 3 ragers, only 1 died

[abstract cedar]

Gunners, snipers, & trappers have the lowest HP

If you get ragers or maulers it's tricky

I suspect, can't prove, that blowing yourself up next to a barrel also counts the barrel kills

Which would kill the tougher ones

[zenith zealot]

alright

thanks

[fluid zenith]

Feel like going full wounds if Fatshark is so proud of them.
I'll have 10.
And suddenly "that's not how you play the game"

[cyan notch]

healing? whats that

[covert ermine]

Whats wrong with 10 wounds?

[fluid zenith]

Spending 5 hours of resources to reroll for 10 wounds lol

I haven't done that though

...yet

[fluid knot]

You'd be literally counting on making mistakes and your team to res you over and over to actually leverage it, its not a good move

Wounds = number of times you're allowed to fuck up

[covert ermine]

I doubt you can utilize that on t5

🤷

[austere estuary]

problem with wounds is they get stuffed by corruption

[fluid zenith]

Honestly it's just a knee-jerk reaction to some really stupid coincidences

[austere estuary]

more wounds also means you lose less hp when you get slapped as well

from 50% to 33% to 25% etc

but having to give up a main slot on curio, ehhh

[fluid knot]

Yeah it do be like that, personally if i see someone wound stacking i will only pick them up twice, if they go down after that, they're dying. You're asking a lot from your team to drop what they're doing constantly to pick you up because you intentionally get downed for "hp"

Those slots could be actual hitpoints or toughness and not make the player using them a fucking liability

[austere estuary]

I'm never leaving someone to die unless it's the more risky choice

[fluid knot]

I generally wont, but that one circumstance is different, thats carrying someone who is intentionally making the game harder for the team

[austere estuary]

I doubt that's their mindset

though in any case

[fluid knot]

Be that as it may, that is the result

[covert ermine]

Often if you get down on t5 it quickly go into spiral of death so its meaningless its ok to have +1 w on t5 but i doubt you will need more than that

[ornate hamlet]

Get lucky
I find ragers can be quite easy to achieve it with

[austere estuary]

leaving someone to die intentionally, unless it's actually a bigger risk to res them, in order to (not) make any point to someone is usually even more detrimental than anything else

[fluid knot]

Yeah +1 is useful if you're not super consistent, but stacking nothing but wounds is just annoying

[zenith zealot]

if u deal sufficient dmg before kamikaze then yea

i keep getting only 1 rager with each kamikaze

[fluid knot]

Nah, if someone is intentionally getting theirselves killed end over end they're getting carried as it is and the rest of the team is better off just not paying them any attention

[austere estuary]

I just assume they're not intentionally getting killed, pick them up and try to keep winning 🤷 more interested in clearing a map than asserting my ideas on gear and stats

[fluid knot]

Almost any other situation though, i agree with you, i will p much always try to res folks

[glacial lantern]

quell speed too low on the transcendent. I habitually switch to my staff for its quell speed. If you can make up for that, the damage boost could make it worth it

[austere estuary]

if someone is bad or has bad loadout, so be it

extra challenge

I can get salty about it or I can try and pull extra weight

[fluid knot]

That not the mindset behind it, like at all. Imo its that its making everyone elses life harder for no real reason

[rigid blade]

How much damage does BB do?

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah the big aoe staff helps to soften them if you spam it

[unkempt hare]

Realizing now that the zealot approach to melee of don't stop swinging doesn't work on psyker

[austere estuary]

for softening ragers for the splosion, I used one charged trauma blast on each of them

that does the trick nicely and you can control its targeting nice and precisely

[unkempt hare]

Also what's the draw to the electric staff?

[fluid knot]

Cc

Lots and lots of Cc

[unkempt hare]

Ahhh for hordes?

[austere estuary]

my best statted staves are surge staffs but I don't enjoy it much 🥲

[fluid knot]

hordes, specialists, elites, basically anything provided it gets shocked

[austere estuary]

surge pretty weak vs hordes for cc, but v strong vs elites

[unkempt hare]

Same I like trauma cause it goes boom

[austere estuary]

target cap is what makes it suffer v hordes

[fluid knot]

I mean its pretty weak fullstop in damage numbers, but yeah its super helpful as a support tool

[austere estuary]

trauma meat and blood geysers

[unkempt hare]

AT mines on infantry

[austere estuary]

surge can at least do decent single target since its primary still benefits from its crit stat

but yeah it's pretty much about the CC

[unkempt hare]

I wish there was a perk that would allow pskers ult to have more effects the more warp charges and peril you have

Still trying to figure out psyker

[austere estuary]

currently a troll item

[unkempt hare]

Started with zealot

[austere estuary]

amazing stats, nearly useless perk and literally useless blessing

[abstract cedar]

there is, at 30

[unkempt hare]

Really oh shit I didn't see that

[austere estuary]

there are a few feats re. warp charges

[unkempt hare]

Starting to see how psyker runs a bit like sienna

[austere estuary]

psyker is quite flexible really

a good number of different approaches

[abstract cedar]

other people are starting to discover tank psyker and I love it

[unkempt hare]

Yeah but a bit squishy too

[austere estuary]

yeah tank psyker is very cool

[unkempt hare]

Can be

[austere estuary]

ressing god

[unkempt hare]

At least

[abstract cedar]

psyker is the squishiest class in the game unless you run a specific build and then it's a tiny shield ogryn

[austere estuary]

kinda wanna have some mad block efficiency/deflector/res speed shenanigans gimmick build at some point

[unkempt hare]

It's like zealots bleed build

Imagine getting tough on cleave and bleed

But what are good perks for psyker?

I have so many questions

What does rend do?

[abstract cedar]

damage to armor

[half iron]

more like rizzing god ayo‼️‼️

[austere estuary]

rend makes it so you do less nerfed damage to armor, though in the case of something like rending shockwave, it seems to debuff the unit hit

[elfin roost]

So stacks of warp charges and peril both increase the size of the wrath right?

[austere estuary]

e.g. the shockwave itself won't do any different damage

but the armored unit takes a lot more dmaage for a little bit

or rather, less reduced damage

[unkempt hare]

Hmmm thats alright

[elfin roost]

Anyways, so if I was 6 stacks, using the one feat that sets everyone on fire when using F, I could theoretically be basically a nuke?

[austere estuary]

after charged shockwave with 6 rending, primary that'd do less than 20 suddenly hits for closer to 60-80 or some such

[abstract cedar]

in that case I think "rending shockwave" would be applying brittleness, which would mean the tooltip is wrong

[unkempt hare]

Had a rending bolt gun on zealot, unsure of what it did

[austere estuary]

yeah hot soup, only problem is I can't be sure it's for everyone like that or not

wish we could mp in psykarium

my presumption is it's actually brittleness

[unkempt hare]

Or some other way of controlled experimenting

[austere estuary]

but it could be some weird personal buff

but yeah

31 on head on crusher, to over 100

also seems to massively scale with the peril based buff in a weird way

oh no nm

was jsut stacking rending

one quick blast to knockdown and one big to then hit him waking up = headshot 140+ primary

one big blast only then headshot like 101

so the rending blast can actually stack itself

above its own single big charge max

shame it only does anything on carapace afaik

[fluid knot]

Want an excert on rending?

Its a long read tho

TLDR is that it actually harms flak damage output and is basically brittleness

[austere estuary]

testing on the flak rager it seems to have no effect

[fast swan]

no way lol

[austere estuary]

260 headshot before, 260 after

[fast swan]

well did you try 2 headshots in a row?

[austere estuary]

talking specifically about rending shockwave

[fast swan]

to see if the first rendered and the second did more damage to the rendered enemy?

[austere estuary]

the trauma blessing

[devout belfry]

So does every blessing just work regardless of whether the weapon is equipped. FFS

[austere estuary]

no

depends on the blessing

[devout belfry]

Do we have a list? Thanks for the help.

[austere estuary]

still testing

all or nothing really nice for trauma staff

non-force weapon so pairs well with its high peril gen, to swap between as a passive quell, and the percentage bonus based on stam applying to the big nukes is nice

[tacit tide]

what would yall say is the best melee for pysker?

[worn heath]

caxe mk 5's probably the most generally good weapon esp for psyker

slap on peril blocking talent and you can push cleave through hordes to your hearts content

[cyan notch]

force sword duelling sword chainsword antax all pretty good

[fleet crater]

3x 380 base force swords no deflector sadge

[orchid venture]

Game finally gave me an ok purge staff, swapped most of my feats to fire ones, and it's much easier to do heresy content

I think i mostly have a hard time with other weapons is cause I always played unchained sienna, which is significantly tankier than what psyker is

But going flamethrower and tac axe feels really good

[summer prairie]

Melk has this beauty

[cyan notch]

nice

0 damage

[ashen schooner]

honestly kinda impressive

[round charm]

is the couple % of burn better than more radius?

[summer prairie]

examine the weapon to see if it makes a difference for the stacks, but the right one is better anyway due to nexus

[vestal wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/tANPd34.png

I want to cry...

Got this from the emperor for my Psy

not for my zealot...

[round charm]

thats a zealots wet dream

whats you guys pref on the melee weapon?

i havent really found anything that felt nice for hordes yet

[vestal wraith]

My force sword Is what I mainly use with tier 3 deflector on It

but now that I have this knife https://i.imgur.com/jMQy9fo.png Might start using It for the lols

[cyan notch]

mk5 duelling sword with shred

[north cradle]

Does Mk V have more Vanguard attacks? I always thought it was mostly Assassin

[cyan notch]

yes its assassin

[north cradle]

I've always been a Force Sword kinda guy for horde clearing by doing Push-Light-Heavy, how does the Mk V fare?

[summer prairie]

The default peril based blessings used these threshold values for granting stacks: 20%, 50%, 80%, 97%. However those are the default values, there's a different set of values for Psyker specifically. I'm not entirely sure if the blessings use those instead, because if they do, there's a problem: 30%, 50%, 97%, 97%

[north cradle]

Honestly I would have gone with the Mk VII Claw Sword if I wanted more sweep

Because the two-handed Force Sword isn't out yet and I want Cleave

[cyan notch]

much more mobile and shred shreds

[fast swan]

hoping for a force dagger with high crits, good mobility, and basically same special as force sword

[summer prairie]

MK IV is better than VII because you get a much better light attack in your light heavy (or was it heavy light) combo

[north cradle]

Mk VII I think is all Vanguard except the third light which is a Strikedown

And the Heavies are Relentless?

Maybe I should just call them slash, sweep, stab, and vertical strike?

[civic patio]

anyone know how to do going out with a bang?? i'm struggling to finish it

[north cradle]

I've planned out how I plan to get mine done, but I think your best bet is to find some Elites, soften them up a tad, and then spam your staff into the sky and hope for the best

Either I have to get into a crowd of Shotgunners and block them with my Force Sword before activating the special, or soften up Dreg Ragers with a single Brain Burst each and do the same thing

[civic patio]

but i will need a whole crew to do that

what annoys me is how anti-team some penances are

[summer prairie]

I think IV gets light 3 in the combo while VII gets light 2. For some reason IV light 3 is listed as strikedown, "a poweful attack targetting one enemy", but it cleaves horizontally for over 200 damage

[north cradle]

It feels like half of the high-level Psyker penances are impossible to do without a coordinated team

[summer prairie]

VII light 2 does only a bit over 100 damage and is more diagonal

[north cradle]

I got Pick N Mix, thankfully, but that's because I told my teammates on Dickord, "HOLD UP THESE GUNNERS ARE MINE"

And then I bursted five brains and exploded

[summer prairie]

A properly rolled MK IV can one-shot poxwalkers with both the heavy and the light 3 (which get chained)

[hoary badge]

I just did this at the end of Hab Dreyko with a party, if you don't want to restart maps for an optimal elite spawn, there's a couple of maps like these that send elites in redemption waves

In this case, exactly 3 ragers

[cyan notch]

the hells a redemption wave

[hoary badge]

The final waves they send at you as you get to the choppa

[hoary badge]

You could go through the map as usual and request for a bit of coordination at the end, I think most players are willing to cooperate especially if they can bail with their reward if things go wrong

[coral steeple]

think this is worth to get?

[hoary badge]

I wouldn't buy it with melkbucks personally

Pskyer doesn't have crit synergy and perks are on the weaker side

Also I'd recommend doing Out with a Bang with multiple explosions rather than softening them up, would suck for you to be short of a kill after a blast

[summer prairie]

Does anyone have a FS with unstable power and can test it for me?

before I write a bug report regarding blessing peril scaling

[civic patio]

i will keep this in mind thx

[robust sierra]

thinking of trying psyker, any tips/tricks?

[round charm]

take your meds

[vague grotto]

the one time the store gives me a staff and its good

[round charm]

theres a cool firefox/chrome addon that lets you check the shop on all characters

[hoary badge]

Learn your limits on critical peril and abuse them

You can also execute brainburst behind cover/ looking away from enemies

[toxic forge]

It's all coming together

[round charm]

anyone got a good set of feats for a fireman build?

[orchid cairn]

Lmfao what is happening with this game today? Lost 2 Damnation runs with nice randoms, because this game doesn't bloody work. Gunner shoots us through the floor above us and he is inside a house so we can't do shit and my teammate dies and then it causes a domino effect, then in the very next game I get pushed through a chain fence, because of a horde and I get stuck to the environment, can't move anywhere and before I can DC and come back we die.

RIP in pieces.

[hoary badge]

Warp Battery+Ascendant Blaze+Damnation/Hi-intensity = profit

[orchid cairn]

Nerf gun.

[round charm]

so just those two are the core?

[hoary badge]

They are the biggest boost to white burny builds yes

But otherwise x21x12, x denoting a feat of personal preference

But just be prepared for underwhelming warp charge uptime if you're bringing this to lower difficulty missions

[west stream]

shotgunners are not elites

just fyi

It´s best to try it vs scab/dreg ragers probably. trick is not dying in mele I guess, lol.

[hoary badge]

You got a source for that? Cause they definitely count for pick n mix and otherwise fit in all definitions of elites spawn-wise

[west stream]

Nothing official, looking at it. But game groups them up with rest of specialists in the meat grinder I guess

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies This claims they are specialists and not elites

lemme see if fatshark has documentation

[hoary badge]

Specialists tend to spawn with a sound cue though

[haughty schooner]

specialists have sound queue, ive seen shotties listed as elite

[hoary badge]

Only enemy I'm unsure of are snipers

[haughty schooner]

every single specialist has a sound

[hoary badge]

They don't have sound cues on spawns, but they spawn infrequently like specialists do and don't appear as ambients

[haughty schooner]

im choosin to die on that hill

ye shotgunners wander around just like ogryns, ragers, etc

[hoary badge]

The specialists are scattered about in the meat grinder though, I wouldn't place too much stock in their placement

[devout belfry]

I'd like to see data on what enemy is the most wipe causing.

[hoary badge]

I'd wager doggos are pretty high up that list

As a ogryn main they are the bane of my existence

[west stream]

gunner platoons when I dont use deflector are it for me

ouch my toughness

[devout belfry]

They're not usually what takes us out. Usually it's shotgunners and shooters. Shooting through geometry.

[west stream]

Dogs are less a problem as they will stagger if they take enough damage

ALso snipers landing a shot at 3 m after a dodge

[hoary badge]

Slide helps immensely against them

[west stream]

You´d think forcing them into mele is best choice but I feel shooting them is safer

[round charm]

you cant wait for them to jump though, you have to spidey sense it

[devout belfry]

Snipers definitely finish off teammates for us more than anything else.

[hoary badge]

Ye especially if they juke you with the 360braced pounces

[devout belfry]

But actual run ends is always getting lit up in the hourglass or a weird 10 bullwark spawn lol

[west stream]

Mutie tracking is super weird tho

if its an open area just slide/dodge and you´re good

but if its cluttered suddenly their pathing lets them do turns

[devout belfry]

Sometimes they're slow to turn... And sometimes they turn 270 on a dime.

[hoary badge]

I suppose this being the psyker channel you have the zap stick which just invalidates their shenanigans though

[west stream]

I like to slide and slap with charged force sword

is the way

but yeah I feel like if theres any obstacles around them muties can turn better

[devout belfry]

I'd also like to note that the psyker ult will pull dogs off teammates at almost any distance.

People don't seem to know that.

[west stream]

aye

plus achievement for killing a dog as it pounces

gotta do it

[hoary badge]

Muties are alright for me, they have a huge visual tell with their high five

[round charm]

ew, using ult in a non greedy way

[devout belfry]

And it hits around corners if you aim it right. Weird tracking.

[west stream]

Push with fire feat is way to go

set em on fire too, just in case

[devout belfry]

Well getting enough stacks without a purge makes it meh lol. But it's good for knowing the range.

[hoary badge]

Reminds me of sienna's cut staff from verm 1

[devout belfry]

I want a fast shooting stave like the bolt staff. Aka the Vegeta staff.

[hoary badge]

Variant of the fireball that she uses in the cgi cinematic, spreads a large firepatch from the point of landing

[round charm]

is deflector a blessing, and is it rare or something?

ive yet to see it

[hoary badge]

On the force sword, yes

[summer prairie]

Only rare in the sense force swords don't show up too often and they have many blessings available

[hoary badge]

I don't remember it being that rare, just too many blessings diluting the pool

[frigid marten]

4shotgunners appearing out of nowhere instant kill

Other special appear one at a time some time 3-4 one after one but shotgunner instead don’t have the same warning

[summer prairie]

Melee weapons get the warp nexus crit bonus even if you have never switched to your staff. That is even if you reach high peril using FS, BB or peril block, your melee weapon still gets the crit bonus of the nexus.

[frigid marten]

It happens with many blessing, work with both weapons

[blissful spade]

so 12 hours in and i still feel pretty new to psyker.

[frigid marten]

Many “”build”” work with that, crucial roulette for example

Empty autogun so the melee weapon get extra crit

[blissful spade]

how good is psyker at AoE ??

[round charm]

can be based, can be shit

depends on weapons

[deft fiber]

Depends on which staff you are using. Mostly.

[blissful spade]

don't really know where they fall as of role tbh

[deft fiber]

A bit of here and there.

Mostly a "how i learn to become an evasion king" class.

[frigid marten]

Purgatus is flamer, surge is anti armor/cc

[deft fiber]

Trauma is trauma.

For user.

[frozen rivet]

pain. I was checking the armoury extension to see if there was anything worthwhile and there was a 364 force sword with deflector on it, everything 70+ except first target. 2 minutes left on the reset and i missed it cuz the game wouldn't load in time

[west stream]

Depends, it has a flamethrower staff that can easily melt hordes

the voidstrike will also hit every enemy in the line

[summer prairie]

Does exorcist even work on FS?

[round charm]

ive been really liking purgatus for these last few hours

[deft fiber]

Void good at horde clear too.

[round charm]

void long range, purg short/mid

[west stream]

Voidstrike will also clear specialists if you aim for head and charge it up a bit

Funny way to deal with entire patrols

[round charm]

i love the cascading explosion sound as it goes through 30 dudes

[west stream]

Purgatus + crits can trigger headpop + flames can trigger charges is great

[round charm]

i-in a fight, right?

[deft fiber]

Right?

[orchid nest]

https://tenor.com/view/memeblog-gachi-gif-18207743

[deft fiber]

Better when 30 dudes comes through me.

[cyan notch]

?

[deft fiber]

I won't elaborate.

[west stream]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-warhammer40k-astartes-run-gif-17108850

Me getting back to the game to avoid this thread

unrelated how many headpops you figure a chaos marine would take, hypothetically

has to be less than ogryn, shouldnt it?

[round charm]

in game, or in lore?

[west stream]

Both I guess. If they added them in game they´d have a bigger HP pool for reasons I imagine

but lorewise an ogryn is larger and tougher depending on writer

[blissful spade]

🤣

[fluid knot]

Probably be prevented by some warp fuckery tbh

[west stream]

Found a voidstrike staff that adds soulblaze on crit

thats double the horde clear surely

[deft fiber]

[frigid marten]

In a 4 psyker team? Yes

[viscid cedar]

I heard psyker is the strongest class in damnation, yes?

[proven hazel]

psyker is the strongest class out of all of them

good waveclear, excellent defense, the ability to snipe a target across the map

if they actually made brain burst scale with difficulty level (like every other grenade) we'd be too OP and they'd have to balance

and all it costs is exploding occasionally

honestly though they should make brain burst scale

because the idea of an ability with such a long windup that also slows you and might not even kill the thing you're using it against is a cancer on higher difficulties

its basically just a sniper-clearing tool and even then only if you have decent cover

[frozen rivet]

I don't think so tbh. BB just becomes a bit more niche in higher difficulties instead of the super ability it is in the lower difficulties

though it is frustrating to have your target popped before the burst and i think they should do something about that.

[proven hazel]

yeah its insane

its like a big heads up to every veteran on tertium

it needs a rework honestly

they could keep it the same but make it so that when you're charging it, you can see elites and stuff through walls

within reason

that would honestly be the best way to balance it with minimal changes

[light citrus]

Should I buy this

[proven hazel]

flame staff is the best staff

although that is a bit of a sad one

depends what level you are tbh

[light citrus]

Dmg too low

Other are ok

[deft fiber]

Dmg not important at all for purgatus.

[proven hazel]

no it looks low

its a constant effect basically

like a flamethrower

also it stuns

[deft fiber]

With purgatus you kill with soulbalze dot.

[proven hazel]

*staggers

[deft fiber]

Not with actual damage.

[proven hazel]

its my favourite way to generate warp charges

just get that end-row soulblaze talent and light up a big horde of enemies

[light citrus]

Since I have better

[deft fiber]

Answering your question. It's a decent base, yes.

[jovial mist]

As psyker what perks you want on Curio's? (still can't really figure that one out...)

[proven hazel]

toughness and wounds

[placid pike]

truly the weapon to rival the gods

[proven hazel]

health is basically useless

[viscid cedar]

Why use purgatus if the Voidstrike clears waves faster? (genuinely asking)

[proven hazel]

it doesnt

[light citrus]

Go 2HP + 1 wound

[proven hazel]

thats a good one

[placid pike]

if you're going for a Deflector Build (force sword)
Block Efficiency can help.

[viscid cedar]

isnt corruption resistance bugged why roll for it

[proven hazel]

although isnt toughness regen bugged right now?

wait thats bugged as well

[jovial mist]

perfect...

[proven hazel]

[light citrus]

My FS

[proven hazel]

fatshark what are you DOING

[proven hazel]

oh thats juicy

[frozen rivet]

the middle level 30 feat

gives you warp charges if the enemy dies of the burn

10% chance

[jovial mist]

i have the exact same one lol

[proven hazel]

its super good

[viscid cedar]

dont you already get a lot from the 4% coherency feat

[proven hazel]

no

4% is so low

[frozen rivet]

also arguably purgatus is better at short range clear than voidstrike

[proven hazel]

you can spin around really fast with purgatus and clear everything around you

that alone is a reason to use it

[light citrus]

Worth to upgrade?

[proven hazel]

especially if you do pubs a lot

[viscid cedar]

i play zealot more, with a voidstrike staff psyker, i cant out clear with my FT i feel like i should put my FT away lol. damnation difficulty for reference

[frozen rivet]

just spraying your blue psyker fluid at horde can be enough to bring you from 0 to 6 with that feat

[rocky cedar]

What are considered optimal perks and blessings for trauma? Does it have any notable break points?

[proven hazel]

I'm gonna be real

[light citrus]

Another one

[proven hazel]

trauma staff isnt worth using

[blissful spade]

best voice choice for psyker ? opinions ?

[rocky cedar]

Well not here to start an argument on its viability but I enjoy it and an using it so any info would be appreciated

[placid pike]

Is "First Target" for Force Sword a valuable stat btw?

[proven hazel]

I dont even think the stats correlate to the weapons

[light citrus]

not toomuch

[static epoch]

@light citrus I would rip the deflector out and put it on a higher base roll

[proven hazel]

they could've generated a random number hash and put it there and it'd mean the same to me

especially since theres nowhere to see what the stats actually do in game

[proven hazel]

german

[placid pike]

It's not the best. But Im just handling this for now due to balanced stats + Deflector

[proven hazel]

that looks decent

power stat isnt weapon specific so that works for EVERYTHING

if you kill an elite with brain burst you get 5% power

[placid pike]

oh it applies to brain burst? 😮 TIL lol

[proven hazel]

yeah

idk whether its a bug or what

its not just for that one either

theres another blessing thats slightly better that I cant remember the name of

+16% flat damage increase

absolutely devastating with the flame staff

[rocky cedar]

I know slaughter applies to stuff other than melee but can it also be procced by other stuff?

[placid pike]

best to reroll that +8% against specialists no? for my force sword?

[proven hazel]

yeah get rid of that

unless you plan on going toe-to-toe with mutants

try to get unarmoured

good for when you're getting torn apart by poxwalkers

god I wish they'd introduce the rest of the crafting system

I'm holding onto weapons i dont even want

[placid pike]

Yeah. No plans of making a weapon specific against mutants. Just end up stunlocked <.<

[proven hazel]

I will say

bonus resistance against muties on curios is a lifesaver

I have +30% just as bonus traits and its genuinely the best thing ever

[placid pike]

hmmm

[proven hazel]

since they're one of the few things that cant be killed by one brain burst reliably

and they stun you

and also people are just genuinely bad at killing them

obviously dont prioritise it

but if its there

its better to reroll something else

unless its the worst thing

[deft fiber]

Uhm, just stay near the wall or something like this and mutie won't slap you.

Gunner resistance seems more actual and have value across all of the resistances. Cooldown reduction is good i guess.

[proven hazel]

sounds simple until your group has run off at the start of a horde because they're looking for plasteel and you're dealing with the meat of the swarm

[deft fiber]

That's a fucked up situation anyway.

[proven hazel]

thats like 95% of games i've played

at all difficulties

[deft fiber]

My condolences

[proven hazel]

yeah its awful

[deft fiber]

But like gunner res is day and night when gunners and reapers trying to fuck you up.

Just to not, gunner res doesn't help against regular shooters.

[placid pike]

ive settled with this for now. Saving up mats for getting a decent Mk 5 duelling sword
that toughness regen is eck

[proven hazel]

reapers arent much of a problem as they're one of the few enemies that CAN be killed by a brain burst reliably

gunners are annoying but for some reason veterans prioritise them over the bulwark clapping their cheeks

[cyan notch]

gunner res kinda mid they dont do much damage

[deft fiber]

Toughness regen wait until it will actually work

[placid pike]

true

[proven hazel]

honestly I have no idea how so many stats and things are broken

like you just take a number and run it through a calculation

thats it

[deft fiber]

Presume they all are broken and just make a decision for future

[proven hazel]

we're gonna find out that brain burst not scaling is a bug too

[cyan notch]

bb is fine tbh

[proven hazel]

it is not

other grenades scale with difficulty and so should brain burst

don't be a reductionist just because its "manageable"

its a defining feature of the class and it should feel rewarding to use

especially as it has such a long windup time

at the moment its a button only used when the veterans and zealots are distracted

[cyan notch]

how am i a reductionist for expressing my opinion that bb is fine

[deft fiber]

Well, you have a build to make wind up time smaller and reset your F too. But it's anyway strange because on damnation you didn't kill a lot to get this sweet cooldown on F.

[proven hazel]

I mean the windup time is fine it should just do more damage

hitting an enemy three times with brain burst is a waste of time

I could kill them with my force sword faster

[summer prairie]

So don't, it doesn't have to one-shot everything and the ones that take many hits aren't big threats generally anyway

[cyan notch]

what enemy are you hitting 3 times with

[clear heath]

I didn't know your force sword had infinite range

that's crazy

[summer prairie]

What definitely has to go is the peril buildup when you precharge and hold it

[proven hazel]

it should do comparable damage to the attacks of other classes

theres no point in me charging it if a veteran can two-tap the same enemy and have it dead before its even half ready

[proven hazel]

bulwarks and such on damnation

[summer prairie]

Is there only one target

[cyan notch]

you have unlimited ammo though you cant exactly compare them

[proven hazel]

its unlimited ammo with the caveat of a massive reduction in manoeuvrability

which is enough to get you killed

[cyan notch]

theres ways around it which is why you have to use it strategically

bb still one shots a lot of important high threat targets like shotgunners gunners snipers bombers trappers

[proven hazel]

yeah but a veteran can get those just as easily

[clear heath]

You can dodge while doing it
You can also hide behind cover for most of it

[proven hazel]

it needs a niche

[dawn orchid]

BB is not fine for how dependent the class is on it, and how unfun/ineffective it is in its current state

[proven hazel]

you guys arent understanding that I'm saying that compared to the killing power of other classes with the same enemy, its drastically weaker

Soldier 69 gets it

its like theres no point in me using it at all if everyone else can just roll over what im using it on

[wooden kindle]

Facts

[proven hazel]

I might as well run a god damn lazgun

[summer prairie]

Ideally some veteran weapons would get nerfed, agreed

[wooden kindle]

I don't want veteran to get nerfed

[proven hazel]

I think nerfing would be setting a bad precedent

[summer prairie]

I do

[wooden kindle]

I want other classes to be buffed

[summer prairie]

The game should not be too easy

[proven hazel]

like I said before, while charging brain burst, you should be able to see priority targets through terrain

[cyan notch]

its not as simple as just buff everything lol

[proven hazel]

its an easy fix and other classes have it

[cyan notch]

just give every class a power sword lol

[clear heath]

I just want warp charges to be reworked

[proven hazel]

and it would allow for better planning

[dawn orchid]

Without even getting into its power level, I just find it to be an unengaging and unsatisfying skill to use. Long charge time, high peril gen, movement slows, all to just to hit a single target and not even one shot hardier ones.

[wooden kindle]

Every class a power sword

[proven hazel]

instead of being reactive, psykers could be proactive

imagine going into a room and the psyker has already killed the bomber and the sniper

[summer prairie]

charging a BB should make the target immune to headshots and reflect some damage back to players shooting at it

[proven hazel]

oh I get it

charging a brain burst should charge $50 to your credit card for each second its charged

[summer prairie]

That would make it satisfying to use

[cyan notch]

i think its pretty satisfying to use

[proven hazel]

its satisfying it just doesnt have a niche

[wooden kindle]

If a teammate kills your BB target, you should get a charge despite health

[dawn orchid]

I also enjoy trolling my teammates, that's why I run the torrent las on my psyker to take all the ammo in my heresy/damnation games.

[summer prairie]

Right but the main problem is other players shooting at the elite that is about to die to your BB

[proven hazel]

which is why I said you should be able to see elites and stuff while its charging

they cant shoot them if they're behind a wall

[cyan notch]

its niche is infinite range infinite ammo without los needed

[proven hazel]

it becomes an exclusively-psyker target

[cyan notch]

i mean sure if u want the right click charge to highlight targets i think its a little too easy on demand wallhacks

[clear heath]

they should update brain burst vfx to feel more impactful
I'm thinking maybe it should flicker different colors while it's charging and flashbang everyone when it finishes, for maximum impact

[static epoch]

what's wrong with your team mates killing your bb target

[dawn orchid]

Niche isn't good enough for how much the class revolves around it I'm afraid.

[static epoch]

is that 3% really that important

[proven hazel]

ruins the purpose of brain burst

[static epoch]

no it doesn't

[cyan notch]

dont be afraid

[proven hazel]

I'm not a god damn spotter for the veteran

[wooden kindle]

It makes it unfun

[summer prairie]

You get the warp charge, it just makes it seem like you are wasting your time; unsatisfying

if you are already 50% done, you still get the charge when someone else kills it

[dawn orchid]

Afraid of what?

[static epoch]

in this scenario why are you using brainburst?

[fluid knot]

Depending on how its applied in the damage calculations, potentially yes it is

[cyan notch]

idk you were the one who said you were afraid

[wooden kindle]

Because I like seeing heads explode

[proven hazel]

there is no point using my ammo-free ability if someone else uses their ammo-consuming ability to kill the target before I can

[dawn orchid]

...

It's a figure of speech

[fluid knot]

If its a multiplicative 3% on all your other damage, then yes. It most certainly is worth it

[proven hazel]

basically every positive of BB is removed when you remove it from a vacuum

[clear heath]

If someone steals a brainburst kill, it means someone wasted their time
Either the psyker wasted their time brainbursting the enemy or the vet wasted their time/ammo on an enemy that someone already dedicated a bunch of time killing

[proven hazel]

exactly

it needs adjusting or specialising

[static epoch]

have you heard of right mouse button hold, there's no shortage of targets to bb, your argument is invalid

[dawn orchid]

That's also another thing, it's anti-synergistic.

[fluid knot]

Capstone skills should have given BB an AoE using staff effects, lighting, soulblaze an trauma respectively

[cyan notch]

well sure if theres only 1 target but usually theres a lot more targets and some that other classes cant easily shoot

[fluid knot]

Heck, they could throw off tier two an add that an basically noone would complain

[proven hazel]

ok then I'm at 76% peril and cant deal with the wave of trash running at me while the ogryn is getting diamantine

[summer prairie]

anyone around who has a FS with Unstable power?

[static epoch]

ok so you have a build that relies solely on bb to retain charges?

[fluid knot]

Technically yes

I play Gunpsyker

[proven hazel]

most based psyker

idk it'd be fine if BB was just useful

im sure at low difficulties its fine

but past malice?

[summer prairie]

BB is very good with 6-3

[proven hazel]

nigh useless

[clear heath]

It's still useful for picking off bombers and snipers

[dawn orchid]

Thing is, then you're standing still juggling your charge time (that pauses between target acquisitions) on a bunch of rapidly dying targets

[proven hazel]

snipers mostly

everyone can kill bombers

[fluid knot]

Its useful on flayer even into higher settings because you're dumping damage already with other sources, but 15s is a little too long

[static epoch]

the stagger gives you a free melee hit on anything, even charged attack

[fluid knot]

Should be 5s imho

[cyan notch]

i use bb all the time in damnation it has pretty high uptime

[static epoch]

i wouldn't say it's useless, it's also 1000 damage

[summer prairie]

6-3 lowers the overall charge time by at least ~40%

[static epoch]

and it doesn't cost ammo

peril also has many uses

[dawn orchid]

If you're constantly using bb as opposed to using your staff, you aren't really playing pulling your weight compared to other classes

[proven hazel]

the "ammo" is your inability to move fast while you're using it

[wild pilot]

Ammo is not that big a deal, any competent player will not run out of ammo

[proven hazel]

darktide is a very movement focussed game

its actually worse

I'd enjoy it if i could use ammo instead of movement speed

sure you can dodge but thats only useful up to three times

[static epoch]

you get hit while brainbursting?

[cyan notch]

this statement makes no sense

[proven hazel]

yeah its called I play public matches

[summer prairie]

you are certainly more manouverable/safer with BB than if you were using many other ranged weapons

[static epoch]

you can have stam penalty using bb and still avoid attacks

[fluid knot]

Omfg this. "dOnT pLaY gUnPsYkEr, yOu'Re tAkiN vEt'S aMmO!!!!" fucking morasses

[dawn orchid]

Gun psyker is just anemic vet

[wild pilot]

You get open for 2 seconds while charginf BB

[static epoch]

you can dodge with space bar

[clear heath]

You literally don't need to have line of sight with the enemy for 99% of the brainburst time. It's not that dangerous to use it unless you're surrounded

[fluid knot]

Thats a fair assesment, but it also works because the skill trees for psyker are fucked anyway tbh

[static epoch]

unless you're inside a pocket of enemies that's not a problem, skill issue

as in you are surrounded, if there's a direction to dodge you're fine

[proven hazel]

yeah until theres a poxburster charging you and you're surrounded by weak trash enemies because the zealot's mom told him to go and take out the trash

[fluid knot]

why spec for a staff when the DPS is meagre and has no supporting feats and CC can be done through melee? I just dont get it

[static epoch]

so you want to be able to use bb while bursters charge at you

[wild pilot]

True you can dodge, but if you are BBing in a relaxed situation you are likely just saving your vet 2 rounds

[summer prairie]

well to be fair you aren't goign to d dodge melee attacks effectively while holding a ranged weapon

[cyan notch]

then why are you charging bb when you have a poxburster charging you and surrounded by trash lol

[summer prairie]

but you shouldn't be in that range anyway

[proven hazel]

because if it goes off then you die

[static epoch]

if you want the game to be very easy where the specialists and elites design aren't punishing play easier difficulty?

[dawn orchid]

I don't see how it's unclear. Spending 4~ seconds to kill one mob when another class can kill 4x or more in the same period of time means you aren't being as useful.

[warped perch]

Hello psyker people you are all great and better than stinky veterans

[proven hazel]

realest psyker stan

[wild pilot]

I dont know why you imply that I want the game to be easy rather than just being unsatisfied with a mechanic I rarely use in damnation due to being not cost effective

[clear heath]

tbh i pretty much only use brain burst with kinetic barrage active
the normal cast speed is definitely too slow, but it's perfectly usable with barrage buff

[proven hazel]

I hate veterans so much they get in the way and steal all my kills

[wild pilot]

All your arguments work in a vaccun

[cyan notch]

this scenario is so simplistic so if theres a group of gunners across open ground from you and you have a purg staff what are you going to do? use your staff because you magically contribute more?

[proven hazel]

we should make a poll for people that support brain burst as it currently is and people that want it changed

[summer prairie]

all classes have to do things that some other classes/builds may do better

[proven hazel]

that'll settle this

[wild pilot]

When in reality the vet will be sniping your BB targets and never running out of ammo nor being in danger

[proven hazel]

ok but other classes shouldnt be able to do my signature ability better than me

you DO realise that right

[summer prairie]

is it the signature ability even

[proven hazel]

like why would I not just play something else then

[warped perch]

What annoys me is that BB can only three shot crushers and reapers

For its cast time

[proven hazel]

exactly

this is what i was saying earlier

[olive ember]

The signature ability of psyker is peril blocking get it straight smh

[dawn orchid]

Your vet should be handling that and you should be keeping cover on your team. But my point is not that you shouldn't deal with gunners, but that with BB as it is now, you kill things so, so, so much less efficiently compared to other classes.

[clear heath]

it's our grenade
technically our trauma staff does vet's grenade ability better than them

[proven hazel]

its too weak against the targets it should be used for

[warped perch]

Sometimes I don’t even bother targeting them with bb unless I’ve used F to get the better cast time

[summer prairie]

what should it be used for, do you have it backwards

[static epoch]

i totally agree bb could be in a better spot with the base class but having a movement penalty on it doesn't make it harder or less worth to use.

[proven hazel]

it was a theoretical fix

[warped perch]

I kill them faster with secondary void animation cancelling lol

[olive ember]

I kill them safer from spamming surge

[dawn orchid]

I don't see how opening yourself up massively to getting attacked doesn't make it harder to use.

[warped perch]

If I even get a kill

[cyan notch]

infinite range stunning bulwaks killing crushers which other classes take triple the time to kill without anti armour weapons?

[proven hazel]

the fix I actually want is to be able to see AND TARGET elite targets through terrain while its fully charged

[wild pilot]

vets should not be able to kill something faster than the BB, either the vet is busted or BB is too weak

[proven hazel]

I'm a psychic why am I limited by a wall

[warped perch]

I’m on the fence about surge, I used it yesterday and it didn’t really do anything

[static epoch]

ads'ing is the same thing, why should bb be different, it's a ranged attack

[clear heath]

because you're not actually that open
you don't need to be exposed to enemies to use it
you don't even need to look at the enemy after the first millisecond of starting it

[static epoch]

it's literally designed that way to make you think about your actions

[warped perch]

Like it would be good but it ramps peril quickly

[static epoch]

you want to run around and do bb, think for a second how that would work

[proven hazel]

ok well at the moment I think about my actions and then the veteran performs them for me

[olive ember]

Are people defending BB design?

[summer prairie]

an infinite range, autotargetting and tracking ability with unlimited ammo should not be highest dps ranged attack in the game

[wild pilot]

one guy is

[dawn orchid]

I think you're overvaluing the "range" thing substantially. Most fighting is not at a range other classes can't compete with. Also, you can only stun and damage one at a time, with a long channel, and big peril gen. That won't help you when you get the 4 reaper 2 crusher spawns on top of a horde. Anti armor is also very common, even if it's just melee weapons.

[olive ember]

I thought we all agreed day 2 that it was complete trash

[warped perch]

I do admit that BB is great for killing from cover

[static epoch]

don't get be wrong bb is both bad and good, you have to use it properly

[proven hazel]

this is that thing where once people are used to something they dont want it changed

BB could be an ability that gives you an account ban for a month and people would still defend it

but at least then it'd be funny

[clear heath]

I think brain burst should cost less peril and warp charges should be completely reworked

[wild pilot]

Using it properly is proccing the 30 feat and bursting something down

[summer prairie]

It should be changed but the damage is close to being fine

[wild pilot]

all other uses are not cost effective

[warped perch]

Warp charges should at minimum have a longer duration

[dawn orchid]

There's a few contrarians who insist on overlooking the downsides and overhyping what upsides there are. Or perhaps it's an elaborate trolling attempt.

[static epoch]

i think we need build options to maintain charges easier

[cyan notch]

nah

[proven hazel]

warp charges shouldnt decay and should be spent instead

however they should also increase peril generated

[cyan notch]

just because someone doesnt hold the same opinion as you doesnt mean theyre trying to be a contrarian or attempting to troll

[static epoch]

yes and then occasionally picking off something that no one else can deal with at the time

[proven hazel]

also i'd just like to say that BB's stun isnt even that effective as I've definitely been gotten by enemies who were in the "stun" time

trappers mostly

might just be a bug or might not

who even knows

[summer prairie]

you used BB on a trapper and stunned it?

umm

[wild pilot]

Anyone can do this

[dawn orchid]

Obviously, but there's no guarantee they aren't when someone clings to a wildly unpopular opinion despite any and all arguments.

[wild pilot]

An ogryn with a launcher can deal with elites, a zealot with revolver or a veteran

Faster than a BB

[static epoch]

true but quite a lot of people don't, you can hop in a pub and get the most specialist kills easy

just using bb

[proven hazel]

fatshark give me the reigns I will give you a psyker class that is fulfilling and interesting to play

[wild pilot]

Not my experience but maybe I get good players

[cyan notch]

same can be said for the other side no? the only defense that differs is "oh supposedly a lot of people agree with me"

[clear heath]

Why are you comparing their actual guns to our grenade slot?
Brain burst is at least on par with ogryn box

[olive ember]

I mean it’s not supposedly if you literally have everyone giving multiple points for one side

[proven hazel]

generally if a lot of people agree with something then its how it should be

[static epoch]

box is on another level with the talent

[wild pilot]

Because unlike a grenade its not throw and forget

[fluid knot]

Box.

[proven hazel]

maybe ogyrn box without the grenades flying out

[cyan notch]

lol

[olive ember]

Welp either way still no update to game I go back into hole now

[proven hazel]

I mean thats true isnt it

[olive ember]

Cya tmrw I guess

[dawn orchid]

You typically can't be a contrarian while holding a wildly popular and supported opinion, that defeats the purpose. If your goal is to troll people, you also want to upset the largest amount of people possible, so trolling a tiny minority is unproductive.

[fluid knot]

Nah, box is better mate lol, one taps a mutie all the way up to Damn'

BUT boxes are limited, BB is not

[summer prairie]

most players of all classes agree that their own class should be stronger

maybe not vets

[cyan notch]

what is your point with this wall of text

[static epoch]

i can't say if this is the right way but i would like to try a bb that charges up to 50% to get the current effect. anything past that has a continuous stagger effect up to 100% at which point you do more damage

[dawn orchid]

It's two sentences, answering a question you asked me. Cmon now.

[static epoch]

not messing with the time it takes to charge, the new 50% would be the current 100%

[proven hazel]

brain burst should send a strongly worded email to the fatshark CEO

[cyan notch]

ok i no longer care about this thread which is meaningless

[olive ember]

SMH how could you take up 1/4 of my screen on my PHONE

[wild pilot]

"Add more staffs to the store ffs"

[proven hazel]

staffs should be customisable

like the abilities

what if I wanted a different primary fire on my flame staff

it'd be interesting

[dawn orchid]

Fascinating conversations to be found in psyker chat.

[static epoch]

also if you're not running CC, brainbursting a ogryn enemy helps the frontline quite a bit, even with that small stagger

[olive ember]

Psyker chat is where all the arguments take place

It’s truly 10/10

[cyan notch]

guns should be customisable too i dont want a torchlight i want a grenade launcher

[olive ember]

Even when it’s got nothing to do with psyker kek

[rapid cliff]

What bragging rights do I get when I finish that lifeleech penance and complete 250 missions as a psyker?

[proven hazel]

listen, all of this stuff sounds great but you guys have to remember, darktide is a team-based game, and as literally everyone knows, people on your team are NEVER sane and normal

[rapid cliff]

None? Probably, but I wanna lord it over people

[dawn orchid]

Meanwhile oggy with the grenade gauntlet

[proven hazel]

so whenever you bring up an argument relating to something your team should be doing, its null and invalid

[fluid knot]

Or even Stubber tbh

[warped perch]

You get one free ogryn hug

[proven hazel]

because the fact is that they wont be

[static epoch]

meanwhile literally every other class with a similar effect 🤡

do you think in a circle

[rapid cliff]

Yay

[cyan notch]

so this is null and invalid too then

[olive ember]

Guys can anyone carry me through sedition? Its really hard and I swear I die two seconds into a fight

thx thx

[warped perch]

I actually wouldn’t want an ogryn hug they’d probably kill you

[static epoch]

no shit darktide has games where someone else can fill the same role you are currently doing, with anything

[proven hazel]

no because they shouldnt be killing bombers but they are

[warped perch]

So nvm

[proven hazel]

ok what is the point of different classes if they can all fulfill different roles

genuinely

why arent we just joe prisoner

[wild pilot]

Opening bulwarks is the prime use of BB, agreed

[proven hazel]

the most normal man in 40k

[warped perch]

What blows my mind is that bb can one shot trappers but only two shot flamers

Makes no sense

[static epoch]

i got a slow ass axe and if i time it right i can bb and headbop

[warped perch]

Lol. Blows my mind. No pun intended

[static epoch]

it's literally free damage

[proven hazel]

mmmm I sure do love my ability that is useful against ONE (1) enemy

[cyan notch]

so is this null and invalid too

[static epoch]

in this hypothetical the veteran is already doing everything for you

i don't get it

[proven hazel]

blooddrunk you're doing that thing where you try and turn something I said against me however what I said was that when my team SHOULD be doing something then they arent

[olive ember]

ngl its more efficient to just open em up using surge

or even the F

[proven hazel]

they SHOULDNT be killing the enemies I'm in the process of BB'ing

because that enemy will be DEAD soon

but they ARE because it has a big blue glowing head

[static epoch]

then move your mouse to another target..

[proven hazel]

and that activates their neurons

[static epoch]

it retains the charge %

[olive ember]

unless its damnation, in which case everything past gunners will probably survive since everything takes like 3 BB to kill kek

[proven hazel]

yeah which is so dumb

since you can only do two consecutive BB's unless you've pressed F recently

[cyan notch]

no anything can happen they might be busy shooting something else like you said anything can happen in pubs

[olive ember]

I believe mutants on damnation need like 4 BB to kill right

[proven hazel]

yeah but they never are

[olive ember]

its truly a moment of all time

[proven hazel]

its ridiculous

[cyan notch]

oh so now in this scenario its not null and invalid

[random marsh]

Just recently got my psyker up to 30. Managed to craft this, but I'm not quite sure what to look for when it comes to a purgatus staff. The blessings seem like among the best from what I gather, the perk isn't sorted yet so nvm that, and the stats are all well balanced. Any dump stat to keep in mind if I manage to find more purg staves?

[cyan notch]

because "they never are"

[proven hazel]

BB should activate a minigame where you enter the mind of an enemy and have to comfort them through a traumatic childhood experience so they don't attack you after BB is finished

[summer prairie]

69% burn isn't that bad, I think it's 1 stack less than max

[random marsh]

2 stacks less

14 on this

[summer prairie]

15 is max

[proven hazel]

I literally said that teams never do what they should and all you've done is point at things that have no reference to that OR reinforce my point

[random marsh]

16 I believe? Or am I misremembering?

[cyan notch]

i think 16 is 100%

[random marsh]

ah right, ofc

didn't keep the 80% limit in mind

[dawn orchid]

Burn
Cloud radius
warp res
quell speed
Damage

In order of importantance. Crits apply an additional stack of soulblaze, so you actually want as much crit as possible on them.

[random marsh]

oh, didn't know the crit one, that's handy

[near wyvern]

Terrifying barrage is a waste on Purgatus. Cloud Radius, especially at that roll has an overlapping effect

[random marsh]

guess going crit perk is preferable then

[dawn orchid]

Very

[random marsh]

That's a shame. Once we're out of beta I'll probably be able to change that blessing then

with the crit in mind I guess nexus is the one to aim for

[warped perch]

What’s the most important on purg? Cloud radius or burn?

[summer prairie]

debatable

[warped perch]

Or other

[near wyvern]

For purgatus perks you want +flak and +crit chance

[near wyvern]

Burn is most important

Cloud vs warp is debatable and a bit up to preferences but that's your second and third

[warped perch]

I hate not having a long range option on purg except bb

[random marsh]

Right. So reroll to crit perk and wait for the full release of the game to switch the barrage blessing over to nexus then?

[near wyvern]

Every build needs to have a weakness

[summer prairie]

having 15 stacks over 14 only helps against some enemies

[violet thorn]

Its called a Veteran

[summer prairie]

while cloud is more dps in many situations

you are just hitting more things and getting stacks started earlier due to the range

[clear heath]

You know what's worse?
An entire team of zealot flamers
A single sniper solos the entire team

[fluid knot]

[dawn orchid]

That's understandable, but it's the same weakness flamer zealot has. Psyk has a little better time because of bb in that regard.

Your vet SHOULD be handling ranged threats

[void fable]

What do you guys think of duelling swords? Just generally

[near wyvern]

But then you get Vets like these

[proven hazel]

thats what im sayin

[clear heath]

sorry the vets only exist to spam lasgun ammo at the crusher for that solid 2 dps

[dawn orchid]

Old and busted, now brutal momentum antaxe is the meta. (They're alright but I much prefer deflector force swords for giga tanking)

[proven hazel]

sure it works when you're on a good team

but how many people here can genuinely say they're on good teams regularly

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4331350

[clear heath]

Well you see, there's this thing called having friends

[violet thorn]

Me seeing my Vet do this after over 100 hours played as Vet prior to Psyker

[cyan notch]

pretty good excellent mobility pretty good horde clear excellent block

[proven hazel]

I am literally a warhammer 40k fan why are you asking me this

[clear heath]

As a gamer i know it's a hard concept to grasp, but some people have friends they can play with

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[proven hazel]

still the upper echelons of a game shouldnt be determined by things like "friendship"

[near wyvern]

With purgeatus, extremely good.

Gives you lots of mobility with decent 'oh shit' cleave. Easily tank monstrosities with kinetic deflection and using the good dodges.

Has a decent DPS vs mutants because of how easily the swings connect with the head even from the back side.

I recommend +maniac and +flak rolls on it.

[proven hazel]

idk maybe it'll even out after a couple of months and things have settled

I feel like a lot of people playing darktide have never actually played a game like this before

you can kind of brute force it up to a point

but at heresy level its a steep learning curve

[proven hazel]

also I will say that darktide is far less forgiving than vermintide 2

[cyan notch]

i agree with the mutant part i think its comparable to fs special if you dont 1 shot it

[proven hazel]

whether that'll change or not with updates is yet to be seen

[violet thorn]

Bro they havent even finished the game yet

nevermind gameplay tweaks

[proven hazel]

true

[clear heath]

Idk man, team games exist. It's kinda expected that the most optimized teams are going to be premade groups and not just random lobbies
And there are a ton of weapons in the game that work fine for playing in random lobbies anyways

[proven hazel]

yeah but this team game doesnt really encourage team-based play

like ok you have coherency

which is a punishment if you're not with your team

but it also punishes the rest of your team who might be together

idk thats kind of not a great mechanic

[cyan notch]

disablers encourage team play

different enemy and armour types too

[warped perch]

But... veterans

[proven hazel]

clearly not enough if people are still running away from the group

[clear heath]

well then the rest of the team should go with that one guy

[violet thorn]

its like ld42, yeah you can unga ahead but unless you are on like 200 mg Adderall you are going to have a bad time

[warped perch]

God I loved l4d2

[clear heath]

Or just use voice chat and tell people to stick together

[proven hazel]

I used to be really good at that

[clear heath]

or type, idk

[cyan notch]

or ping

[proven hazel]

why would I ever communicate with other 40k fans

[clear heath]

so true

[proven hazel]

have you MET these people before???

pings are good but a lot of people dont use them

[violet thorn]

40k autism has been heavily diluted

[proven hazel]

I had one group once on heresy that pinged literally every enemy

[violet thorn]

TTS did a great deal of that

[proven hazel]

it was so good

well thats bad for the fandom

[cyan notch]

im not a 40k fan i dont even know who the hell the omissiah is or what the hell a hive city whatever atoma is

[proven hazel]

who will enjoy reading the 50,000 pages of randomplanetinthemiddleofnowheresville lore now

[cyan notch]

half the time i dont know who these nutjobs are talking about praying to their whoever persongod is

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-heresy-newspaper-gif-8197244

[proven hazel]

you should be required to pass a lore competency test before the game lets you make a character

timed questions

3 seconds each

randomised from a pool of 10,000

[violet thorn]

mfw playerbase would be at like 1000 people global

[cyan notch]

u have dudes complaing about cadia this cadia that shut up already i dont even know what that is its getting old hearing the same shit all the time

[proven hazel]

honestly cadia is the most boring nugget of lore in all of 40k

[random marsh]

Going back to the purg staff, if picking between flak damage and crit perks, I'm guessing going crit is superior then, as it doubles your crit chance?

[proven hazel]

"uoohhhh my planet was destroyed uoohhhh"

now psyker-tech-priests is where its at

[cyan notch]

and thats their entire personality

[random marsh]

(provided the staff attacks doesn't have inherent crit increase)

[clear heath]

Speaking of Cadia, reminds me of a funny name i saw a while back.
Some dude was named "Savior of Cadia"
died pretty much immediately

[proven hazel]

incredible

[clear heath]

this is why cadia fell

[proven hazel]

best player I've seen was a guy called Snert who only said "snert" and nothing else

didnt go down once was absolutely perfect the whole game

didnt even snipe my brain bursts

[warped perch]

Damn 😂 that burned more than a max stat purg staff

[warped perch]

😂

[proven hazel]

he was truly incredible

if all darktide players were like snert then it'd be a much nicer game

[warped perch]

How would you feel if everything you knew were destroyed lmao

[proven hazel]

I'd deal with it if I lived in the 40k universe

planets get destroyed all the time

sometimes just because they can be

[warped perch]

I mean with the way things are in 40k idk why anyone would get attached to where they lived

[proven hazel]

exactly

you could just be eaten by a tyranid or an ork at literally any moment

[warped perch]

Orks are cool tho

[proven hazel]

speaking of nids

[warped perch]

So it's ok

[proven hazel]

why arent they in the game

[cyan notch]

i dont even remember what i picked as my home planet the game sure as hell doesnt seem to care very much either

[proven hazel]

I picked cadia because you get extra eye colour options but since I only play psyker I just use the glowing blue ones

[violet thorn]

I picked the mining one for my vet and I’m pretty sure I picked Atoma for the psycher

@proven hazel you got baited lmao

[proven hazel]

also i'd just like to say that you DONT get access to glowing blue eyes if you pick black sclera but you can still have glowing orange eyes???

like wtf I want black sclera but glowing blue eyes

imagine how cool that would be

[violet thorn]

Tell fatshart to hop on it

[proven hazel]

they need to

idk why it isnt an option

like wtf

[near wyvern]

Crit chance is universal damage boost, +flak is specific

It all comes down to what do you think you need more. You can try both anyways since the rolls become free after 99 Diamantine and 299 Plasteel

[violet thorn]

You’ll get what you want before it’s free

There’s only so many

[void fable]

Thank you for the advice

[warped perch]

Fatshark went on a low red-meat diet and is now anemic shark

[proven hazel]

I cant wait for them to add a skitarii dlc in 3 months that completely blows like two of the classes out of the water

[violet thorn]

3 months

[proven hazel]

yeah

you're kidding yourself if you don't think they're gonna do that

[violet thorn]

We’ll be lucky they’ll complete crafting by then lmao

[proven hazel]

oh no that'll come after don't worry

[orchid nest]

yeah still waiting for the early december solo mode too

[proven hazel]

tbh I dont mind that its unfinished but they should not be selling it as a full game

DRG didnt and that was fine

and now that game is great and I've sunk over 1300 hours into it

[violet thorn]

Yea DRG is great

I’ve sunk a ton of time into it as well

But it can get repetitive

[proven hazel]

I mean thats every game

[violet thorn]

After the morbillionth time

Yea

[proven hazel]

no game has infinite replay-ability other than like

minecraft maybe

and even then you have to mod it for that

[violet thorn]

DRG mods my beloved

[proven hazel]

I do enjoy my lootbug fart death sound mod

[violet thorn]

I have that one

[proven hazel]

they should add modding support for darktide

I would enjoy that noise playing after I overload my peril

[abstract socket]

just an idea, sorry if it was before:
If you blow yourself up with the psyker, after your teammates pull you up, you should get a random mutation. This could be positive/negative (like your staff's ability changes, or you get peril faster for the rest of the run), or just cosmetic, (like losing hair, bleeding nose, etc.).
I think this could spice things up a bit.

[cyan notch]

pretty sure they said modding aint coming

[light citrus]

Curio : 2 HP + 1 Wound VS 2 Toughness +1 Wounds

[cyan notch]

hp

[warped perch]

Wow I totally haven't paid any attention to curios. Noob moment. I currently have 2 toughness ones and one wound one

Idk if that's good

[random marsh]

Aye, sorted crit on it. Will give it a whirl later. Thanks for all the tips and info.

[proven hazel]

incredibly disappointing and cringe move from fatshark

its like the easiest way to ensure people are still playing your game in a years time

[light citrus]

Steam Workshop Based Cash shop is alt way for modding

Which Warframe did

[cyan notch]

Will Darktide support mods?
Darktide will not support mods. Since the game will run on dedicated servers and use anti-cheat there will be no mod support.

[dawn orchid]

Can't have the players making better stuff than the devs and making them look bad

:^)

[cyan notch]

from #❓faq-for-convicts

[proven hazel]

yeah but also spending hundreds of money on ONE video game isnt a good look

[proven hazel]

why would a pve game have anticheat??

pvp i can understand but like

I'm killing npcs??

oh nooo someone might kill an npc too quickly oh god

[cyan notch]

idk so people dont teleport to mission end or give themselves infinite money

[proven hazel]

why would either of those matter

if they teleport to the end then they can just be kicked

if they give themselves infinite money then it isnt my problem

[light citrus]

NPC (Enemies) is using hack , why no anti-cheat

[proven hazel]

true they can see you through walls

[cyan notch]

i mean those are just 2 random stuff theres plenty of other things that cheats could do

spawn 50 beasts of nurgle on the map

[proven hazel]

that'd be funny

[cyan notch]

turn friendly fire on

[proven hazel]

oh my god I could BB a veteran

[light citrus]

Fatshark allow cheat by NPCs, Why we cannot cheat

Inf ammo, Aimbot, See through walls, Inf stamina

Just no god mode, no teleport, One hits kill

Fat Shark double standard

Anyone help fatshark explain

all NPC cheaters, Huge RNG , Fatshark need ban your NPC

PLs add early access to your game, since we have not get full function of the game

[warped perch]

NPCs have almost a 100% aim accuracy in this game

Hackers

[idle bay]

Also bots have better anti-horde melee skills than some players. And it seems that don't miss with ranged as well

[round jay]

It’s not called aimbot for nothing

[long wharf]

I wonder if FartShart hired a new CM just for Darktide because Aqshy and Hedge both refused to keep doing it

it's not like FartShart has any other game that's really active right now