psyker-class

[long wharf]

only my oldest son still lives at home

[keen belfry]

Best item in Sir milks store today lol..

[summer prairie]

Once full crafting is in the melk store will be worthless except maybe for getting rare blessings

[thorny idol]

I just want my force sword to block bullets

[keen belfry]

I want the shop re-roll to come out

[long wharf]

the shop needs more than a reroll option

[fast swan]

whats the best map and strat for pick n mix?

if y'all know

[orchid nest]

the easiest is going to be a full group just helping you drag/tank some elites while clearing trash but if you mean like duo/solo I liked checking the map with the bridge in the beginning. chasm terminus I think? I confuse it and logistratum. good sight line to potentially a lot of elites with a decent spawn

[mental vortex]

worth it?

I dont really care about end game

just need some short term advice

[orchid nest]

I would just keep going with what you are using as well. if you see one with higher cloud radius and burn together grab it

[rustic field]

my force sword

[long wharf]

get a group together specifically to do penances

[covert valve]

what perk would be BIS to replace?

[naive dawn]

That staff is built for crit, so don't reroll crit %. Reroll maniac to maybe crit damage 10% if not that flak 25%. IMO.

[fluid zenith]

Why is it called Soulblaze when it is clearly your eyes that it burns?

[hot zephyr]

Because the real damage is psychological and cuts you right down to your soul. The eye damage is the initial hit. The soul damage is the stacks and dot.

[fresh reef]

lmao

[valid lake]

so what's the go feat with the silently patched kine shield is it kine deflection

[cyan notch]

always has been

[full kite]

is the dumpstat on surge staff actually crit and damage if it's mainly for cc?

[magic hull]

ur watching meta gamers in action

[gloomy obsidian]

Why do you only get Non-psyker based quell weapons with Mission's End Reward

[glossy pivot]

yay or nay

[hot zephyr]

1000% buy. Reroll the infested to maniacs and use the full auto in controlled bursts to take advantage of the perk.

[glossy pivot]

alright man ill trust you

[hot zephyr]

Source: I use a graia myself. If I had that roll I'd do the same thing

You could also potentially keep the infested too and reroll the specialist damage to maniacs if you wanted to as well.

But either way that's a emprahs blessing upon you

[daring nexus]

What’s the best blessing on a force sword besides deflector? I’m feeling shred

[hot zephyr]

Slaughterer

Exorcist a close second

[hot field]

What slaughter do ?

[austere estuary]

Level 4 Unstable Power

"up to" 5%

might be the worst single blessing for force sword atm

[austere estuary]

slaughterer gives you a stacking damage boost on kills

can be very strong

[hot zephyr]

Adds power per kill, power means extra damage, stagger, and cleave.

[sour bison]

is it good? never used mk4

[hot zephyr]

Best quality Slaughterer gives 10% power per stack and stacks 5 times. Absolutely monstrous.

[sour bison]

o really?

[vagrant cedar]

2s

[hot zephyr]

Wow. I honestly have never seen above a 10% slaughterer

That thing must absolutely smash if you can keep the stacks up.

[sour bison]

2s is long enough

just keep killin

[vagrant cedar]

65dmg

mmmmm

idk idk

[sour bison]

its highest roll for fs

[cyan notch]

free damage for doing what you would have been doing anyway

[sour bison]

its oneshot for any unarmoread head from light attack

[cyan notch]

its only t3 though

wouldnt t4 be higher

[sour bison]

yeah but i never saw t4 slaughterer

it should be 15%

[cyan notch]

oh i thought u said 12.5% was the highest roll

[ebon jolt]

I would replace maniacs with 25% flak

[sour bison]

also this fs two hits crusher with charge heavy with one stack on damnation

withouth slaugherer stacks

very nice fs

oneshot crusher if flayer proc

[cyan notch]

wdym

so how many stacks is it

you said one stack then you said without stack

[sour bison]

someone told me its possible to get 15% but i never saw

with crusher i ment siphon stack

[cyan notch]

its just rare

[sour bison]

yeah

and mine have defflector

so yeah

feeling like im already won a lottery

with this fs

also this is just heavy attack

[abstract cedar]

this is my purgy

[covert valve]

if you had to pick from one of those perks u have which one would be priority

[long wharf]

100% Peril Transfer

[sour bison]

transfer is very good with void

[long wharf]

transfer is best for void

[sour bison]

its actually amazing

shame i dont have good void

only good purge and fs

[robust meteor]

i just the other day finally got a good void. never got a good trauma but thats okay with me

[sour bison]

just look at this boy

[vestal wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/OUVsTJW.png

Need some feed back

Do I buy or?

[ruby meadow]

and im out here with a 266 base deflector, pain

[cyan notch]

yea its pretty good

[robust meteor]

perks are meh

[vestal wraith]

Yeah. The Ripsote Is good.

[robust meteor]

you'll just ping off of flak armor

[vestal wraith]

But Rampage Is not...

It a single hitting weapon

[cyan notch]

just grab it if you dont have a decent ds

[vestal wraith]

not a wide swing

[robust meteor]

block efficiency isn't good either since you 'll be able to dodge out of the way of almost everything easily

[vestal wraith]

Yeah

I don't think Its worth 2500

Cause I change the block stat

[robust meteor]

flag is useless tho

[vestal wraith]

but flak Ill Just be getting nothing outta It

[robust meteor]

flak

[vestal wraith]

Yeah

I don't think Its worth

even for reblessing

[robust meteor]

unless you're rich, maybe pass

[vestal wraith]

I have 4465 atm

and will get more for doing my weeklies

[sour bison]

what is reblessing?

[vestal wraith]

[alpine portal]

we just tried the 90% brain burst pennence and failed no one hit it. only hit it with bb

any tips ?

[sour bison]

get friends

[cyan notch]

sounds like u did something wrong

[robust meteor]

the game is bugged

[vestal wraith]

Yea

[alpine portal]

full group 🙂

[vestal wraith]

must've done something wrong or game bugged

[alpine portal]

does the last hit need to be a bb?

just found out he did not bb the last hit

[vagrant cedar]

difficulty

[alpine portal]

t4

[vagrant cedar]

you gotta do it on diff 4 iirc

[fast swan]

yo quick, is this a good enough role to upgrade?

[vagrant cedar]

very good

[cyan notch]

why not just bb to death lmao

[fast swan]

or too low power even tho good stats

[cyan notch]

why even chance it

[fast swan]

is good then?

excellent

[vagrant cedar]

very good

[sour bison]

its good

[fast swan]

joy

[sour bison]

warp resistance is meh anyway

on fs

[fast swan]

i learned thats the dump stat

[covert valve]

sorry i mean perk not blessing, would you want 10% poxwalkers/groners OR 25% flak dmg

[fast swan]

hoping for deflector and what perks?

[alpine portal]

it was t4

[fast swan]

crit chance?

[cyan notch]

id get stamina + block efficiency

but up to you

[fast swan]

yea i noticed the FS has no stamina

[cyan notch]

it does

just that psykers get 1 stamina base

fs is +2 stam default so u get 3

[sour bison]

what is even the point

[cyan notch]

for better block

[sour bison]

wow

[fast swan]

since that FS is only 333 power tho, wont the blessings and traits it get suck>?

[vestal wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/fndnTF3.png The game wants me to be an axe user not a force sword with deflector user lmao

[sour bison]

shame we dont even need stamina

[cyan notch]

no i dont think that even works

[cyan notch]

max stamina affects peril gained from blocking

[sour bison]

o?

[covert valve]

we need stam if we dont have any stam it wont block using peril

[vestal wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/iiCpa9G.png This any good?

[mental vortex]

the emperor needs to stop giving me shops full of guns or Im gonna 6 stack blaze brain burst his ass

[vestal wraith]

https://i.imgur.com/mUPMuuc.png Or this?

[mental vortex]

both are pretty cheap

might as well buy them

[vestal wraith]

yE

[fast swan]

fuck i didnt get deflector

[mental vortex]

I got deflector

but it was 2 levels above me

couldnt level up in time

[fast swan]

so will i be able to reroll them blessings?

to get deflector?

[mental vortex]

in 7 months

yes

[cyan notch]

at least one yes

[fast swan]

https://tenor.com/view/useless-fucking-pieces-of-shit-mad-angry-kick-gordon-ramsay-gif-14817807

[cyan notch]

dont know if fs will lock the other one out like perks

[fast swan]

i imagine the uncanny strike is the one i want to keep right?

[thorny idol]

I need more Force Staff skins

[fast swan]

forgot what rending does but it cant hurt and is def better than 3% damage

[mental vortex]

wht is that

[thorny idol]

rending makes you better against armor iirc

[mental vortex]

it looks like an eye

[cyan notch]

new shop skin

[thorny idol]

it's meant to

[mental vortex]

yeah I believe +1 rending equals 1 tier of armour

dont quote me on that tho

[fast swan]

also the damage to maniacs and unyielding are pretty good, either worth rerolling?

[mental vortex]

might be wrong

[thorny idol]

first proper staff skin that changes more than part of the paint

[fast swan]

idk which perks i should focus on

[cyan notch]

reroll unyielding

[fast swan]

is maniacs just mutants and ragers?

[mental vortex]

I believe so

[cyan notch]

bombers

[fast swan]

still good

[mental vortex]

I mean trolling ragers is fun

but mutants dont care

[lethal rain]

tox flamers I think are maniac too

[vestal wraith]

Ye

[thorny idol]

if you go into meatgrinder at the psykhanium or whatever it's called, it'll tell you what each enemy type is

[thorny idol]

in terms of perks and damage

[mental vortex]

you can try rerolling for + elite damage

since thats way less spesific

[orchid nest]

the "teaching them to fish" solution to perks is you either decide if it's defensive and go that way and if you want offense you load up your desired difficulty and see how close you are to what breakpoints on important enemies and see if one of the perks would push you over and decide how much that would impact your build

[fast swan]

thanks

[fast swan]

oh shit didnt know elite damage + was a thing

[sour bison]

btw

do sweeds work in jan?

[mental vortex]

yeah its pretty good

not sure if its on power sword tho

prolly is

[fast swan]

what are unyielding enemies?

[fast swan]

is that also ragers and mutants?

[mental vortex]

ogryns without armour

[thorny idol]

anyone else had luck getting a power sword with deflector?

[cyan notch]

no thats maniac

[thorny idol]

I so want a delfector sword

[fast swan]

that it? lol

[mental vortex]

aka big fuck with shield and big fuck with machine gun

dunno if the plague ogrny counts

[light citrus]

Dagger + Flayer + purg build is it good

[mental vortex]

you wont be using force sword against him anyways

[thorny idol]

How y'

[fast swan]

but like actually they better be finishing crafting soon

[thorny idol]

how y'all like my drip?

[mental vortex]

your drip is blind

but drippy

[thorny idol]

The Emperor shows me the way

[mental vortex]

mf the emperor is a skeleton on a golden throne that can barely think

[split oxide]

You need specifically Force Skins?

[sour bison]

red is out of place here

[thorny idol]

well, so far 100% of the special skins for the staffs work on all staffs

but there's only one

[thorny idol]

well I didn't like the white and red striped pants

[orchid nest]

my version of the same base

[thorny idol]

Cause here's how that outfit comes in shop

[mental vortex]

skully

[fast swan]

oh shit trappers are maniacs too

good

[split oxide]

I like skins - but some of them are starting to look like Harlequins.

[mental vortex]

where shirtless for ogrny and zealot

[thorny idol]

all the skins so far make sense for the game lore

which I should point out, includes harlequins for the elves, lol

[orchid nest]

I want bare chest psyker with those clown pants

[mental vortex]

if only they added features like they added skins this game wouldnt be so unfinished

[mental vortex]

gun lugger ogrny

real

[full kite]

Is kinetic flayer the way to go

[mental vortex]

is that the %10 chance to brainburst one

[thorny idol]

yes

[full kite]

Ya

[thorny idol]

Kinetic Flayer is good for certain builds

[mental vortex]

its fun but

big but

with only 4 stacks your bb will be ass at heresy and above

[thorny idol]

if you wanna do something that needs warp charges without brain bursting constantly

[light citrus]

Flayer is good for dagger

[split oxide]

You might have struggled Penence Challenges and dropped Aquilas for your drip.
"For me, it was a Tuesday." - M. Bison.

[thorny idol]

rapid fire weapons too,

[full kite]

Ehh not using bb for elites just bombers and snipers mainly

[mental vortex]

why are stats capped at %80

I want %100 damage bolter

[orchid nest]

they were easy enough. but it's nice to switch off of it for a bit

[fluid zenith]

What is the melee weapon that looks like a lightsaber made of lightning? (What my computer renders it as anyway)

[thorny idol]

I have a melee build I like but that really needs a deflector force sword, uses feats 1-1-1-1-3-2

[thorny idol]

power sword or force sword

[light citrus]

Psyker: Zealot dagger build

[thorny idol]

^this is my force sword build

fucking gucci

[fluid zenith]

(P)Sike(r)

[thorny idol]

You can still do good crowd control with the force sword and peril build block

get them all lined up and either force blast them or let a teammate mop them up

[fluid zenith]

I should probably do an actual build now instead of just "voidstrike go brr"

[thorny idol]

damn boy

[hot field]

oh damn

[thorny idol]

lol

was wondering

[thorny idol]

I' use the 456 one

I don't think brutal momentum is too helpful when every attack is strikedown

[rapid cliff]

That's what I was thinking, it may have less damage percentage and penetration but its got a lot of great perks and damage

[thorny idol]

so yea, First Target on a strikedown weapon is basically just bonus damage

which is why even though the game say it has lower rolls, it's higher

and like I said, you rarely do a cleave with it, I think only the push back attack has a cleave potential

[hot field]

is Kinetic shield or Deflection better if you have forcesword with deflector?

[orchid nest]

brutal momentum is the best blessing on antax. use push attacks to cleave and have peril block

[thorny idol]

good point

remind me what does kinetic shield do @hot field ?

[hot field]

Take between 10% to 33% reduced tougness damage from ranged attack base from perill

[thorny idol]

deflector absolutely

[hot field]

yee

[thorny idol]

cause Kinetic Deflection paired with a force sword with the Deflector perk

means you take 0% ranged damage while blocking and facing

[hot field]

I was using it up until I have a deflector sword

[thorny idol]

still good before

you can be an absolute wall holding back a mob from overrunning the team

if you time force push and block pushes well, you can hold back a horde indefinitely

[hot field]

also any best perk you want to have on sword apart from block efficiency

[grizzled shoal]

perfect timing

[cyan notch]

i like stamina and block eff

[hot field]

More stamina hmmm

[light citrus]

Use this one

[abstract cedar]

Why stamina? You use peril on block with force sword

[cyan notch]

yes but max stamina reduces peril gained on block

[abstract cedar]

Interesting

Thanks

[light citrus]

Peril is what you need

I am always over 90%

[cyan notch]

ok but that doesnt help with force sword blocking

[cyan notch]

you dont want your peril to jump up so high you cant block bullets

[light citrus]

I know

[cyan notch]

idk why youre posting random pictures

[cyan notch]

you can do some pretty silly stuff like this on damnation if you stack stamina (dont recommend it tho)
#psyker-class message

[austere estuary]

oh wow, that's good to know

had no idea

[cyan notch]

yea neither did i till recently

[lethal rain]

Which dueling sword do yall like the most?

[thorny idol]

none

I feel like playing with those rapid melees will give me arthritis

[fast swan]

this a purge staff build?

[light citrus]

yes

[oblique knoll]

Best blessings for surge staff?

[thorny idol]

GUYS

FINALLY

I've been buying any white or green force swords and upgrading them just to try and get Deflector

It's shitty rolls though compared to my current

[light citrus]

My bleeding dagger

My deflector sword is not good

[thorny idol]

better than mine

[light citrus]

My second buy from shop

Hard to find a better purg staff, is it this worth to upgrade

[thorny idol]

I haven't liked the Purgatus so not sure

usually plus crit is great though for things that do rapid damage like that

and 350 base is great

[light citrus]

I need this two blessing, why roll on the voidstrike one

My perfect roll

[fluid knot]

Guys.. Can BB crit?

[worn heath]

afaik no it cant

[thorny idol]

maybe

so, I think if you have kinetic flayer on

the ten percent chance to double brain burst a target is there

[fluid knot]

hmm.. Wanted to try a BB only build using the Crucian Roulette issue, will give a go tommora an report back

[thorny idol]

just hop in meat grinder and BB repeated on the crusher

[warped perch]

It annoys me that BB will normally one shot all unarmored specials except flamer

[abstract cedar]

What's the most damage BB can do? 900?

[covert valve]

need help which void staff is better!

the 468 rating on the right is better with warp flurry?

[cyan notch]

yes

[lunar garden]

So.... has anyone read or heard anything about the new psyker class?

[crimson shell]

the one on the right is definitely better

[crimson shell]

not recently

there are a few reddit posts about the leaks from data mined stuff

[ornate hamlet]

strike team 11

[primal plume]

Anyone else notice how the surge staffs alt fire can literally go through walls?

I tested it multiple times

[fast swan]

what have you heard? i remember the leaks were pretty big for other classes but nothing big for psyker

[lunar garden]

Something about the protectorate class.

Maybe some sort of tank-mage hybrid.

Sounds like, at least.

[cloud heron]

What do people use for the level 30 feat for the psyker? I really like the idea of the soulblaze one but I feel like it's either redundant with the purge staff or I struggle to generate charges with the surge staff. So that locks me into taking kinetic flayer, which locks me out of 6 warp charges for more powerful soulblaze. surge staff with kinetic barrage on the other hand leaves me without good horde clear.

[white ocean]

You REALLY want flurry on purg

[crimson shell]

depends! what are your rolls on the staff

[covert valve]

have you guys tested transfer peril WITH quellitude? it doesnt seem like its working

[cloud heron]

Surge staff is like 60ish on charge rate with the rest 80ish. Have warp bolts while sprinting and faster consecutive secondary charge. Still looking for a good purge staff

[covert valve]

its not even working its broken for that staff

[crimson shell]

ah shoot I was going to say with the purge staff you deal soulfire damage

meaning anything you kill with it will generate you warp charges

[cloud heron]

yeah, but isn't using both the purge staff and the soulblaze ult kind of redundant?

like if I have the purge staff I would rather take kinetic barrage for more ranged utility

[magic burrow]

the level 30 soulblaze perk is a must with purge, because it lets you build charges just by using the staff.

[crimson shell]

this ^

[cloud heron]

is that better than generating charges from kinetic flayer?

[crimson shell]

take both

[magic burrow]

also a 6 warp charge ult with the level 30 soulblaze perk deletes a horde

on damnation

so that's a good combo. On lower difficulties the other level 25 perks are decent too.

[austere estuary]

it's also very fun watching your 6 charges immediately refill

[cloud heron]

I'm only playing on heresy, so maybe damnation is different, but is the purge staff not already good enough at deleting hordes?

[austere estuary]

purge and lvl 30 flame feat is so good

the passive alone is great

very fast charge gen

which can be paired with either 6 charges for 18% damage boost on everything, or with the overcharging popping extra dots

which in turn help fuel extra charges and help you burn elites without necessarily even seeing them

[crimson shell]

I tend to take the level 25 feat that adds additional stacks to enemies around me on getting more than 4 charges

for that exact reason

that way it builds faster on elites anyways

since you aren't exactly clearing them too quickly

[austere estuary]

I'm not certain, but I also think that the 30 flame feat allows you to gain those charges from any soulblaze, not just your own

[white ocean]

I found psyker a bit dull to play until I went with purg build with lvl 30 feat, incredibly fun afterwards. Only nuisance is gunners.. Cmon vets, do your job sfdlkhhkdlfsa

[austere estuary]

not 100% certain but it seems that way from when I end up with another psyker also using it and warpflame

[cloud heron]

So what about with the surge staff then? Still blaze but just let it be worse?

[covert valve]

have you guys tested transfer peril WITH quellitude? it doesnt seem like its working @austere estuary

[void fable]

Switching from Gamepass to Steam. So having to relevel characters. Psyker feels the least fun to relevel so far. You really feel not having the later feats and a decent staff.

[austere estuary]

the heck is quellitude

[cloud heron]

I had this exact same experience. Early and mid game psyker suck

didnt really notice how bad it was since it was my first character on gamepass

[primal fjord]

For psykers who use dueling swords, is there a particular model that people prefer?

[austere estuary]

at lvl 30 all 3 feats are good imo, though I really like the 3rd one

esp on surge

being able to turbo brainburst a bunch of gunners in a pinch is great

[abstract cedar]

that's what I use + the feat for faster ult cooldown on elite kill

[austere estuary]

or if you need to contribute damage on a monstrosity

[abstract cedar]

pop pop pop pop pop

[austere estuary]

which surge kinda sucks at

[covert valve]

level 5 feat for quelling 10% = 5% toughness

[austere estuary]

oh that

it only works with active quelling

that's just how it works

ult won't do anything for it either

[cloud heron]

Does it? I'm pretty sure you regen toughness from ult

[austere estuary]

or the random quelling you get on 10% of kills

[white ocean]

Surge is for cc and damaging armored enemies. Sucks ass for anything else

[austere estuary]

Maybe I'm misremembering but I recall disappointment on all counts

[cloud heron]

I really like surge staff with kinetic flayer. I don't know if the random BB chance favors elites, but I feel like it does.

[covert valve]

yeah i get it from ulti

[austere estuary]

[white ocean]

I do enjoy the 6 warp charges feat for purg, youre never less than 4 at any time

You can really feel the 2 extra soulblaze stacks from ult

[covert valve]

does urs work with the voidstrike quelling from he weak spot hits?

[austere estuary]

I wish we could get the gain charges from soulblaze separately somehow would be hilariously good with the cooldown reduction

[cloud heron]

Sorry, not sure off hand. Honestly not sure if I even have a staff with the perk to test it with and it's a bit too late for me to launch the game to check.

[thorny idol]

From Vet chat:

[white sky]

So what exactly is the psyker build with the 6D accatran? Someone in my queues was talking about applying BB on hit with it

[cloud heron]

kinetic flayer presumably

[weary idol]

oh I was just playing it

[white sky]

Gotcha

[weary idol]

I believe it is 1-2-3-1-3-2

(as in the skills from top to bottom)

[white sky]

Gotcha gotcha. I don't play psyker atm, I was just curious as to like

How it mechanically works

[weary idol]

oh the level 25 3 feat (Kinetic Flayer)

10% chance to brain burst on hit

[cloud heron]

kinetic flayer just gives a 10% chance on hit to do BB, with a 15s cooldown when it procs

[white sky]

Which is why you use the 6d

[weary idol]

yes

[white sky]

Cause it has an asinine fire rate

I gotcha

[weary idol]

it also crits stupid often

and one set of crit shots with infernus will burn a damnation mauler to death xd

[white sky]

I am aware, I quite like the things

It's no IAG tho

[cloud heron]

i'm not personally convicned the infernus blessing actually exists

[white sky]

It does

[cloud heron]

leaning more towards it being an internet wide prank on me specifically

[white sky]

If it makes you feel better

It isn't that good

[split oxide]

toughness regenerates - health doesn't?
i suppose at lower levels, chip-damage is all you get.
i suppose at heresy+ plus it's no good

[cloud heron]

I have way better results with +health than +toughness. Taking damage at 54% toughness instead of 50% toughness is a meaningless difference.

[fierce sinew]

I think people tend overstate the relative value of one versus the other in general, at higher difficulties you aren't really allowed to take random hits regardless of the split you choose

[orchid nest]

One on the problems is that there is a lot of attacks that deal a high multiplier to toughness. a sniper deals like 10x damage to toughness, a shotgunner 4x, melee 4x I think. and more. so in the sniper example, if you have say 160 toughness instead of base, it will only save you like 6 damage on their 100+ damage hit or whatever

[safe mantle]

I have 220 toughness

with my vet

they still one shot your shiled and half your hp

in heresy

[orchid nest]

Well yeah, on vet you want toughness for sure since you start high and can regen very large amounts at once

or some at least. maybe 1 curio

Yeah. coherency regen is also static and not % so it actually favors low toughness for preventing chip damage

[warped widget]

got a pretty good rifle drop if I ever for whatever reason run a gun with a brainburst build

[fluid zenith]

Got my first Transcendent Emperor's Gift
Kinda wish it was on a Zealot though

[steel egret]

Brainburst build

[patent hatch]

Unfortunately kinda hard as BB has 0 scaling. If you are absolutely dedicated to trolling team tho.

3
3
1
1
3
3

Axe/Dueling sword staff or gun doesn’t matter

Tbh this build is viable

It’s more of a mindset playing BB focused Psyker

[fast swan]

whats the dump stat for trauma staff?

[idle bay]

Ugh.... Melk managed to get nurgling-poop-tier garbage in Limited time acquisitions today.

[placid shoal]

Hi there, um. I'm a level 30 psyker and still feel like I have paper skin and glass bones

What can I do to fix lol

[fast swan]

kinetic deflector + force sword with deflector

[shadow wigeon]

T1 - Quietitude, T4 - Kinetic Deflector
Passive quelling will keep your toughness up, and add a Deflector in there and you can practically tank

T4 Kinetic Deflector also gives you unlimited push-block, because it does not cause stamina to block.

[near wyvern]

Why would you take quietitude instead of essence harvest if you focus on BB?

And no psycinetic aura???

[shadow wigeon]

And you can tank a Demonhost eaily with a high mobility melee weapon

[near wyvern]

Business as usual

[placid shoal]

Don't show my wife this post. She mains ogryn, is better than me at the game, and insists everyone should have as easy a time taking down daemonhosts as her

[placid shoal]

Compliance, Lord

[shadow wigeon]

Ogryn is EASIER to tank... but the truth is any Psyker can tank a demon host by just moving around a bit 😮 If someone pulls one in your group, start brain bursting to draw aggro

then tank away until you team realizes you are immortal

[near wyvern]

If you really want a BB build that would be 132233 or 132133

If you go with kinetic shielding stack toughness curios, otherwise 2 health 1 wound

[placid shoal]

I call them 'ead Bangs lmao

[nocturne current]

anyone have a easy way for pick n mix?

[safe pendant]

probably comms plex after the interrogator a few elites spawn by the elevator

[shadow wigeon]

You know... if she DOESN'T know this then you should definitely pull a demon host sometime just to see how she reacts

[ashen schooner]

after practicing a few times first

can't afford to fail

[shadow wigeon]

Obviously it'll help if you've tried it once, but it's actually quite chill. Keep your block up the whole time, and if your peril goes above 50%, dodge a bit.
Use a dagger or something fast.

[cyan notch]

secret setup

[magic hull]

max stamina build? haha

[steel egret]

Yeah I was just commenting on gun psyker talk above, its not really hard, just useless.

[cyan notch]

yes although u have no hp and toughness

so far in game ive seen zealot ogryn and pysker tank a dh

yet to see a vet do it

[placid sorrel]

does warp charge affect force weapons?

[steel egret]

Besides the 3% passive?

Probably not, but apparently affects F ability.

[steel egret]

I think veteran would need a good dps team and setup of curios he normally doesnt run.

[magic hull]

hey guys my game has been crashing constantly, does anyone experience the same issue?

[steel egret]

Zealot and ogryn or even psyker said setups dont really hinder rest of their play.

[steel egret]

On launcher lower the core amount to same as your physical cores or less.

If you have not already

[bright river]

You don't need a "setup" to tank a dh as a psyker. All you need is a non-force weapon and kinetic deflector (block for peril). Nothing else required even on damnation

So yeah, it doesn't hinder anything

[fringe remnant]

why non-force weapon?

[bright river]

Because it has large passive quell

Force sword has a really slow one

[fringe remnant]

thats interesting. how do you find that stat?

[light citrus]

The worse staff I roll again

[magic hull]

strange, i crashed like 10 times already

this update isnt doing well

[fast swan]

Dear Emperor, please buff Trauma staff. It’s cool as hell but does no damage and causes way too much peril

[light citrus]

Please stop the RNG

the game is dying since the rng

[bright river]

There are no quell differences between non-force weapons. So there isn't a stat for that you could find. Maybe with data mining.
Non-force weapon = fast passive quell
Force Sword/staff = slow passive quell

[light citrus]

farming is painfull

[bright river]

You can easily test that just by building peril and then switching

[steel egret]

Update?

[placid sorrel]

run and gun purgatus sounds fun

[steel egret]

Its been said here that normal melee is 10, force sword 20, staff 30

[fringe remnant]

its kinda meh because you can only run and shoot forward, not backwards

[light citrus]

Run and GUn not work on staff

[fringe remnant]

it works

[light citrus]

garbage blessing

[fringe remnant]

it functions, you can certainly sprint and puff with purg, its just of limited utility

[light citrus]

I need the secondary fire can run and gun

[magic hull]

the shop patch, im crashing alot more now :\

[fringe remnant]

that would be good, but even just being able to puff and backpedal sprint would be nice

[steel egret]

That was baked launch, it didnt update anything, I believe

The skins were already in the game.

[light citrus]

Roll the shop for a week, roll many garbage, got a 350 higher , upgrade , get garbage

[steel egret]

I have collection of 380 rifles.

[light citrus]

play for 3 classes, resource is not sharing, it is painful

[fringe remnant]

it certainly feels like staves roll lower than guns

[light citrus]

Fatshark, we are not the prisoner, we are your customer

[bright river]

I have twelve 380 guns between my zealot and psyker

None on my vet 😂

[primal fjord]

Anyone know what the best dueling sword to use on a Psyker?

[cyan notch]

its up to you

[bright river]

I think ppl like the V

As it has heavy slashes instead of pokes

[cyan notch]

mk2/4 have more cleave and stab heavies mk5 has more dodge and stronger overhead heavies

[magic hull]

rate my outfit

[light citrus]

Psyker play with dagger is strongger than zealot

[bright river]

What do you think is "stronger" exactly?

[steel egret]

How?

[bright river]

Because the stats are stacked against psykers

[steel egret]

Psyker has no bleed related feats.

[light citrus]

youy have flayer

[steel egret]

...

[bright river]

I mean the passive ones, like stamina regen, extra damage during sprinting/dodging/sliding

You're fooling yourself then 😅

[steel egret]

I dont think thats enough

[bright river]

You have flayer. Meh damage every 15 seconds.
Zealot gets 30% crit, 75% damage reduction, better dodges and slides, less damage during sprinting, much better stamina, chastise the wicked for a guaranteed crit and close.

[light citrus]

you can bleed

[fast swan]

Pretty snazzy

[light citrus]

you have

[bright river]

Yeah man... Try playing a zealot with a combat knife. Saying psyker does that better is ridiculous

[steel egret]

Thats a free bb every 15 second.

[light citrus]

the also

[steel egret]

Just no

[light citrus]

Purg fire, dagger go

[steel egret]

There is 0 synergy in this for a dagger.

[mortal pendant]

bleed procs dont trigger bb

[light citrus]

Warp + bleed

[mortal pendant]

go to meat grinder and see for yourself

[steel egret]

...

[mortal pendant]

attack 10 enemies and make them bleed

0 of them will get bb from the bleed

no matter how long u wait

[oblique jasper]

YALL SLEEPING ON THE VOIDSTRIKE

[steel egret]

Only options are surge and void so

No.

Not sleeping

I just have really shit void staff.

[manic needle]

Meanwhile the real chads out here cleaning up damnation with Trauma

[mortal pendant]

if u can get this blessing on void

u become a demigod

otherwise its pretty meh

[steel egret]

Yeah if I ever even saw said blessing ingame.

[steel egret]

You mean heavy laspistol and chainsword?

[manic needle]

No gun psykers get burnt at the stake as heretics tbh

[placid shoal]

what is this magic

[oblique jasper]

I just crashed a damnation with voidstrike

unfortunate

[steel egret]

But we have exclusive knockback its made for us

[north cradle]

Non-Force weapons have faster passive quelling

[cyan notch]

stamina stacking

[manic needle]

Stamina reduces the peril cost of Kinetic Deflection

[north cradle]

It does?

So I've been using a Block Efficiency Curio for nothing

[cyan notch]

block eff helps too

[manic needle]

I mean if you wanted to min/max peril blocking you could probably do both

[cyan notch]

but ones a perk and ones a blessing

[steel egret]

I own 3 stam +3 +10 block efficiency curios, I will try this for fun.

[cyan notch]

use a chainsword/sword too

they give +4 stam

if you wanna minmax it that is

with a +1 stamina perk

[steel egret]

I do have one I have not upgraded.

[cyan notch]

axe is fine too

i think its +3

[steel egret]

My force sword is 3 too

[cyan notch]

fs is +2 yea so with 1 base u get 3

[steel egret]

Right

Really not worth it but I will give it a go

[sonic coral]

base ratings are not incredible, but I gambled through and got some solid stuff

[steel egret]

First one isnt bad.

[sonic coral]

I run high peril so this works nice for me

[steel egret]

What does this have to do with that?

[sonic coral]

the staff benefits from spam for multiple reasons

which raises peril, which is tied to feats

really wish the sword had better mobility and finesse though

[steel egret]

Sure but you dont have less warp resistance.

You have less charge speed.

[sonic coral]

if you look at the charge speed range, it's actually fairly narrow

[steel egret]

I know it doesnt matter

[sonic coral]

low charge speed, chained to speed with spam, means I can raise peril relatively quickly while also hitting high damage bursts

[steel egret]

Im just saying I dont see what that staff has to do with high peril.

[sonic coral]

one, what I just explained above
two, the second blessing

[cyan notch]

i guess charging longer gives u more peril

so in a kind of roundabout way

[sonic coral]

it's what bidniss folk call synergy

[steel egret]

Yeah but you generally just spam above malice.

Yeah its nonsense.

[sonic coral]

yes, correct, you do

and with this you benefit from that

I'm not understanding the disconnect here

[steel egret]

Im not seeing how this staff would be high peril beneficial.

[sonic coral]

read the second blessing

and there's a feedback loop between it and feats

because you can gain damage from high peril on force weapons, and etc. etc.

[steel egret]

Oh so you are entirely talking about the blessing yeah sure that I can agree on.

[sonic coral]

SO
SPAM - heighten peril
heightened peril - increased critical, increased feat damage

and spamming is easier with the chain blessing

[steel egret]

Considering it only gives first stack

[sonic coral]

that does not appear to be true

[hoary shadow]

wych staff is the best ? (sorry for french )

[steel egret]

Thats what people say here

[sonic coral]

I've been using it in matches lmao

and in psykanium

[steel egret]

I think we all have.

[light citrus]

we can bleed and burn

[steel egret]

Worse than zealot, sure.

[cyan notch]

left one better stats but not by much
right one better blessings

[round jay]

Keep yours, it has better perk/blessing and better warp resistance

[hoary shadow]

ok thx guy

[half turtle]

man i haven't seen a force sword in literal weeks

[coral steeple]

what are the best perks to get on the surge staff?

[steel egret]

Warp flurry and nexus I would imagine.

[placid sorrel]

just started playing psyker yesterday, void staff feels so good

big unstoppable ball

[sonic coral]

Took me some getting used to but once you acclimate it's awesome

[round jay]

Voidstaff + surge perk

[placid sorrel]

[manic needle]

I liked 3-2-1-1-1-3 or 3-2-1-1-3-3

Flayer is actually decent for elite sniping on the surge staff since it hits a smaller pool of enemies than other staffs

[steel egret]

I run quite similiar.

Albeit I dont always run kinetic deflection.

[manic needle]

Kinetic shield just doesnt seem to do enough vs. ranged for me to justify it imo

I ran it for a bit but only before I realized how good deflector was

[light citrus]

Dagger is fun when pair with purg

Better than duel sword

more mobility

• bleeding

[steel egret]

I can ress people in middle of horde with kinetic deflection, thats only use I generally have for it

[light citrus]

Force sword is still my first choice

[steel egret]

I think its everyones

[light citrus]

Dagger will be my second

[steel egret]

Really is it the dagger?

[light citrus]

When can play can good at psyker and zealot both

[steel egret]

I mean only one of these benefits from bleed.

[light citrus]

Dagger with purge staff is amust

[steel egret]

No.

[light citrus]

Do you tested ?

this one also ok

[steel egret]

I can tell, I own a better combat knife than you do.

I also know zealot feats and know we dont have anything that benefits from knife bleed.

I do like knife dodge distance, that is all.

[light citrus]

Bleed is will not benefit

but the movement speed is need for psyker

[languid osprey]

i dont have a surge staff should i get this one?

[steel egret]

I dont think this is reason enough.

[light citrus]

give this to psyker

Psyker are glass not cannon

Ogryn are big boy but not tank

[wheat beacon]

yo

whats best setup for psyker

[steel egret]

Surge or void staff + surge power sword.

[wheat beacon]

ty

[cyan notch]

power sword huh

[steel egret]

I dont remember the name.

[mortal pendant]

2-2-1-3-3-2, surge staff

[steel egret]

Ah right, force sword

[wheat beacon]

ok

ill update my setup

thanks yall

[steel egret]

2/3-2-1-1/2-3-3

I think thats what I generally run.

[wheat beacon]

k

ill check it out

im pretty new tbh

[steel egret]

Ok

[fringe remnant]

then try out a bunch of stuff and come to your own conclusions

come here when you're bitter and jaded

[round jay]

For me it’s 2-2-1-2-3-2 with surge staff

[fringe remnant]

i think it depends a lot on whether you're in a premade

psykenetics aura and cerebral lacerations can be worth it if your group knows to take advantage of them

[round jay]

Mind in motion is good but is way less noticeable when quelling with a staff. You’re incredibly slow when quelling without weapon but faster with a staff

[fringe remnant]

a lot of the rest of your build depends what roll you're fulfilling in your group

Past few days i've been trying out psykenetic's wrath paired with kinetic deflection, and treating the force sword as the primary weapon

[round jay]

idk, since you can stun ennemies in chain I don’t get when you really need to block

[fringe remnant]

ranged

[round jay]

Oh, with the deflection blessing. I get it now

[near wyvern]

Cerebral lacerations is max 11.25% damage boost outside of boss fights and that is in Damnation vs mutants and bulwakrs.

Even against bosses as a psyker your top priority is to deal with ads, BB on boss is your least priority, so Cerebral Lacerations is unfortunately a very underperforming feat.

[round jay]

Isn’t spamming bb on boss the way to go 🤔

[fringe remnant]

That is group dependent, some zealots clear adds, or you may have multiple psykers

popping one bb to do 10% damage on a boss is not bad

[near wyvern]

10%???

[round jay]

You deal about 850 damage with bb every 3.5-4s

[steel egret]

On sedition?

[round jay]

That’s not 10% but still

[fringe remnant]

yeah sorry that overstates it

[fringe remnant]

we're talking about cerebral lacerations though

[near wyvern]

Bosses are unyielding and flak and have 32k HP so BB deals 1/32 ~ 3%

[fringe remnant]

yeah fair call

but it is amping all other damage for 5s

[spiral lion]

cash shop got new items?

[languid osprey]

is this worth buying? first "good" staff in weeks

[languid osprey]

the new clown skins are rad

[pallid estuary]

i would say not worth

[cyan notch]

not really unless you dont have a surge

[languid osprey]

the % are low right?

[spiral lion]

hm? care to share a pic? (i just can't check since not home)

[near wyvern]

Cerebral Lacerations basically reduce boss effective HP to (32k - 1k) * (1-0.15) ~ 26.35k = 26350HP

Where the damage dealt by cerebral lacerations is 4.65k or 14.5% of total boss HP

Values on damnation of course

[steel egret]

Pirate clown and recycled skull masks

[near wyvern]

On lower difficulties the bonus from Lacerations is even less

[manic needle]

We're talking a mild boost to party monstrosity damage as a tradeoff for Psychic Communion, administered through a Brain Burst that has to be reapplied every 5 seconds.

That's a pretty situational benefit to give up the Psykinetic's best Warp Charge generation for.

[steel egret]

Ive needed cerebral lacerations only for 2 penance.

[steel egret]

And even those could be done without.

[near wyvern]

Not to talk about psycinetic aura

[spiral lion]

meh. still thanks

[languid osprey]

meh indeed hahaha

[near wyvern]

If your build doesn't absolutely require psychic communion you should run psykinetic's aura. It's so good.

[languid osprey]

on purge chefkiss

[manic needle]

Mask might look cool with Redemption Raiment, Coat might look cool with anything besides the set items. The pants.... well we don't talk about those.

[fringe remnant]

not a dollar more until crafting

[languid osprey]

the coat would look better with a cape or something

wouldnt be to hard to do a cape accesory

[round jay]

As psyker, aren’t we all just clowns

[ornate hamlet]

Chad behavior

[manic needle]

Nahhh just the ones who complain on reddit about how Surge staff is the "only viable option" for Psykers

[round jay]

kekw

[ornate hamlet]

Bs surge has issues with cleaning hordes

But is good against gunners

[manic needle]

Surge is cool for CC, but its far from the only staff that can be effective on higher difficulties

[round jay]

Appart the trauma staff which I dislike a lot they’re all viable

[ornate hamlet]

Exactly, flame staff is great too but has range issues

[manic needle]

I dont know how this talking point is still alive but I just assume it's being parroted by people who dont actually play on higher difficulties

[ornate hamlet]

Every staff is pretty much okay in my eyes

Meaning has its ups and downs

[round jay]

Every staff is good at something and bad at others

[near wyvern]

Surge is all an cool until you realize your team is full of morons who rushed forward and died and now you need to clean it all up and revive the whole team.

Purge and Void are much better for that.

[round jay]

And then you have sharpshooters

Don’t you like going kamikaze 15 times to get a penance

[river sand]

surge is great for a more hybrid gameplay. stun gunners -> close distance -> wrack havoc with your mk5

[manic needle]

If you're carrying after the rest of your team dies using a Surge staff build, then you're probably doing it with a combination of your Surge Staff, a Combat Axe, and a few Kinetic-Barraged Brain Bursts

[round jay]

I do like the fact that kinetic flayer works multiple times with surge

It’s 10% chance perk attack with 15s cooldown but since you hit multiple ennemies with one attack it’s 10% per ennemies

What’s malleus already ?

[steel egret]

Surge force sword and surge staff usually.

[round jay]

Oh yeah

You need a team or good randoms that wants to help you

[manic needle]

Hard pass from me, I'd be using nothing but weapons that are arguably the worst in the Psyker's kit for Horde clearing

[round jay]

Best is to get one ogryn that will tank a deamonhost with their shield for you to deal all damages

[steel egret]

Yeah its dancing to morons with block and dodge to ress them

[orchid nest]

I don't mind using force sword with surge IF it has slaughterer. You can get away with no slaughterer with other staves but it feels pretty bad on heresy/damn on surge without it

[steel egret]

And if I have to carry crowd clearing stuff the said run already has surge staff or its worth leaving to begin with.

[manic needle]

I cant imagine why Id desperately run past them when I could kill them, though. Plus with 2 Force Weapons you're never benefiting from full passive quell and will be stuck holding the R key at some point.

[cyan notch]

its pretty quick to quell with staffs tho

takes like 2s

[steel egret]

I cant imagine kiting for 10 minutes when I can go ress them.

[manic needle]

Slightly more than that and even if it were, thats 2 seconds where youre vulnerable and not attacking in a scenario where you have no support

[orchid nest]

things like antax have their upsides for sure but so does fs. you get more utility but have to active quell more. the main problem is no full crafting system and the incredibly specific force sword you really need for surge pairing

[cyan notch]

not really its basically like reloading

[manic needle]

Yeah that's why you should have a kit thats effective with dealing with every situation though.

[cyan notch]

every class to reload and be vulnerable for that short period of time its pretty easy to manage

[steel egret]

Purga staff is not for every situation

Void is pretty versatile

[manic needle]

We're talking about Surge Staff, and yeah its definitely not.

Surge is very weak vs. Dregs, Poxwalker's and Maniacs

[steel egret]

You have sword for that.

[manic needle]

Force Sword, again, is terrible for horde clear. Like possibly the worst melee weapon in the game for it

Its fantastic for control and dealing with certain types of elites, but terrible for horde clear

[steel egret]

Nah 2 of the devils claws are worse.

[manic needle]

So by your standards, bottom 3 then

[orchid nest]

I feel like I am like talking to nobody but again that is why you need slaughterer on it. The baseline horde clear suck? Sure. Not every weapon just casually has a +75% power buff though.

[steel egret]

Considering amount of weapons, its quite trivial difference.

And with force sword you atleast get special that does something.

[manic needle]

It's not, and the fact that you think so makes me think you either havent tried the Mk. 5 Combat Axe or never learned how good its push counterattack is

[cyan notch]

devil's claw is really bad i think it needs savage sweep and wrath to be good

i got a max cleave damage cleave targets roll and man it does nothing to hordes

[steel egret]

Makes me think you have not learned to use force sword.

[manic needle]

Show me a video of someone using the Force Sword to clear hordes as quickly as the Mk. 5 Axe and I will agree with you

[steel egret]

Nah you come up with proof

[orchid nest]

You will be a little behind an antax with a proper high tier slaughterer setup on the fs, mainly because of brutal momentum. It actually does more damage than antax push attacks though with the stacks rolling. It's still worse overall but not as much as you think. Again, the main problem is you need this perfect fs for it to be really good and no full crafting system

[manic halo]

Dear siblings I have come to announce I finnaly have a deflector power sword

I can finnaly die in peace

[steel egret]

And you will be able to use force sword special if needed to delete.

[manic halo]

Ay my eyes like bulged out of my skull when i saw it

[cyan notch]

how much damage does max slaughter add?

[orchid nest]

+75%

[cyan notch]

no like damage

[summer prairie]

if you somehow get 5 kills within 2 seconds

[orchid nest]

as far as I know it just adds that much, equal to the power increase.

I can tell you with even just a tier 2 slaughterer and an infested roll you're right there riding the poxwalker 1 shot head breakpoint, can go over it with warp charges or psy wrath

for lights

[manic halo]

Thoughts on dueling sword btw

[near wyvern]

While FS DPS versus horde is not the best, it doesn't mean FS is not good against hordes. It's good for holding a choke and protecting your allies from getting hit due to the infinite cleave push.

[orchid nest]

none of this is even considering the ultimate dps FS btw. this is still with making a concession for deflector. a t4 slaughterer with bloodthirsty full offensive FS will do incredible damage

[languid osprey]

thoughts and prayers

[manic halo]

I just wish It had a horizontal slash somewhere

[languid osprey]

hope they put deflect on every one

[manic halo]

It doesn't really do enough damage for me to use it over anything else. Which is a shame since I thought thats what it was all about

single target damage

[manic needle]

You keep saying things like "the force sword can be competetive with specific blessing,s when you're holding a chokepoint" whereas the Combat Axes is good even with suboptimal perks or in suboptimal scenarios.

Im not arguing that the Force Sword is bad - Im a big fan, especially with Voidstrike - but it's simply not specialized for Horde Clear and the difference between FS and Combat Axe is night and day.

[near wyvern]

Obviously any combat axe with brutal momentum is very good for horde clear but if we gonna go that route I will end my argumentation with one word. Purgatus.

[manic needle]

This whole conversatoin started because we're talking about what melee to pair with Surge Staff lol

[near wyvern]

Yes FS is not specialized, its an all around weapon. A bit like void out of the three staves.

[languid osprey]

what do u use with surge?

[steel egret]

Versatile.

[manic needle]

Again, the Mk. 5 Combat Axe is my preferred go-to

[near wyvern]

Any melee works but FS obviously not the best choice as you will be lacking in horde clear.

[orchid nest]

I must be on ignore for them or something. I dunno how many times I can say the base isn't great for clear but it has damage blessings that are much more powerful than other weapons ones. Already said that antax is great for being easy to use with any old one and the main thing holding FS back for a surge pairing is how very specific it needs to be with no full crafting

[manic needle]

Yes, exactly, thank you.

[cyan notch]

id rather take fs over devils claw

[manic needle]

I dont think I've really disagreed with anything you've had to say in context. The FS might be at least competetive with the right specific perks, especially when you're able to funnel into a choke point.

[cyan notch]

we dont really have many great horde clear weapons and fs is definitely up there

[steel egret]

Or kiting.

[languid osprey]

i think people tend to focus on other aspects than horde clearing since every one on the team can more or less do it and thats why FS is the go to

[orchid nest]

Yeah it really is, it's just annoying with the current crafting limitations unfortunately. Still worse than antax overall for clear but it's good enough to consider with the other benefits it brings. It just scales better with the blessings than other weapons.

[summer prairie]

MKV push attack can also one-shot poxwalkers with proper crafting and the first cleave will two-shot

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's the veterans going all powersword instead of using their ranges weapons to kill the actual threat

[languid osprey]

is always funny to have a purg staff only for ur teammates to stacjk in the flames and spam attack

MAYBE FOR THE SCORE AT THE END OF THE GAME

[manic needle]

The fact that it's worse overall still means I'm not going to pair it with Surge staff, specifically. I prefer it with almost any other staff with Surge being the exception.

[thorny idol]

I HAVE SPENT, SO MANY HOURS OF MY LIFE TRYING TO GET OUT WITH A BANG

[near wyvern]

Mk VIII can one shot all horde mobs (groaners, poxwalkers, Stalkers, riflemen and bruisers) with the first heavy swing.

Mine is missing like 3hp but with even a single warp stack it will do it. It has brutal momentum as well.

[thorny idol]

and I finally get teh torso and hood from unlocking

AND IT CLIPS MY FUCKING FACE

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[languid osprey]

skill issue

[manic needle]

Most of the clothing items in Darktide are notorious for having holes or clipping issues

[manic needle]

Even the Redemption Raiment has clipping on the servo-skull that's on the belt

[orchid nest]

That is a fair personal preference but I think with a perfect vs perfect one it's close enough that the other things fs brings is still worth consideration too, since they still round out surge well with the special and deflector. I would probably switch between them myself depending on mood if I had a better fs

[languid osprey]

when the crafting system is complete we will be able to plug those holes with plasteel dont worry guys

[steel egret]

I think most amusing was the clipping on imperial edition chest part which they fixed and it apparently still clips, just on other part.

[manic needle]

Now if only the plasteel grind was more tolerable. They really need to make it so that you can break down items for components like in Vermintide.

[orchid nest]

Breaking down items for plasteel solves that problem and docket hoarding both with one change. Also incentivizes you to run higher missions because you will make up for time lost in docket -> plasteel conversion

[languid osprey]

dont worry friend with the next update you will get 15 plasteel with every host u kill per mission but only on Damnation

and there is a cap per week

[steel egret]

And its broken when they add it.

[languid osprey]

it will have a chance of crashing the game but thats a feature

[manic halo]

We need more hair cause if I see another enforcer zealot with the same bob cut imma delete my character

i feel like this

[manic needle]

Sounds like someone has some insider info on the super-exciting update that Aqshy hinted at but refused to elabortae on.

[manic halo]

https://tenor.com/bCPR0.gif

[languid osprey]

shhhh

[steel egret]

Krieg outfit dlc expansion pack, bought separately.

[quaint drum]

Ahhh just got cliffhanger penance first try

Feels good

[manic halo]

I haver never felt more powerful than when I tanked the deamon host as psyker

[manic needle]

Im fine with people running alts below 30 in Heresy, but if it's your first character then you probably shouldnt be queueing up for Heresy at that level.

[orchid nest]

pov: you're refining again

[manic needle]

Getting your ears blasted out is the most fun part about perk refinement though.

[orchid nest]

[manic needle]

Not that it's especially fun but the rest of it makes me want to stab my eyes out

[languid osprey]

play with surge

[steel egret]

I think this is how some people play in general.

[cyan notch]

i love the part where it lags and u just sit there waiting for the perk to update

[mighty fractal]

https://i.gyazo.com/6856ffebac4a2209ca64a5b66d5e6d56.png

well

[cyan notch]

10/10 experience

[mighty fractal]

this is certainly a weapon

[languid osprey]

the blue psyker eyes exist for a reason

[orchid nest]

yeah or it just randomly decides that you have no more of any material and you have to back out and come back in. that one was happening for me earlier

[languid osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-card-shake-ii_ch2-gif-25887089

[orchid nest]

it does seem that way

[manic needle]

Yeah it happened on my first try with someone who just wasnt paying attention. And honestly tunnel visioning that hard raises bigger concerns on higher difficulties than just not finishing penances

[steel egret]

I would just run damnations but I dont need ordos

So malice and heresy it is.

[sonic coral]

Is brain burst considered a warp attack?

[manic needle]

Not for the feats you're probably wondering about, no

[sonic coral]

I was, so bummer ha

Thank you

[manic needle]

Sure thing

[tawdry shell]

I'd imagine damnation would give the most mats

that's not the case?

[steel egret]

It is the case but generally takes longer if normal atleast.

[tawdry shell]

fair enough

[orchid nest]

It depends on the map too. A lot of the annoying maps to find mats on you can finish a damnation run with very little depending on luck because people don't want to spread out and check everywhere

[steel egret]

Yeah

[manic needle]

Dont give up, all it takes is one good team. Just make sure everyone is on board beforehand.

Or see about trying to get a group together on discord.

[steel egret]

Some guy did testing and I think he concluded heresy as best.

But with avoiding certain maps.

[orchid nest]

Yeah I could see that

[brisk panther]

just play the game and you'll be fine mats-wise 😛

[cyan notch]

(play the game and dont spend anything)

[languid osprey]

the ilusion of choice

[brisk panther]

oh im spending. only 1 blessing on all my gear that i wanna replace

which one would you use?

[summer prairie]

mm

[orchid nest]

I could spend all that plasteel right now on my lined up force sword candidates and most likely come out with nothing worthwhile

[cyan notch]

last one is very clearly the best

[orchid nest]

yeah last one easily

[cyan notch]

tell me about fs candidates idk why i keep buying them

i have like 17 pages now

[manic needle]

The bottom one, and consider rerolling one perk if you're leaning into a deflector build.

[orchid nest]

lmao I know, it's depressing really

[brisk panther]

yeah i like the deflector. reroll a perk to block efficiency?

[manic needle]

I need to do more testing with +1 stamina to see how good it is without leaning into a full +stamina build before I can say.

Kinetic Deflector is more efficient the higher your stamina is.

@cyan notch Would probably be able to tell you better than me right now.

[sonic coral]

I'm guessing deflector pairs nicely with kinetic deflection and maybe quietitude?

[cyan notch]

i havent tested it but i can reroll my 20% block eff to stam and see if theres a difference

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. Force weapon auto quell slower than a snail.

It's more so that you have an extra stamina bar and then you can also utilise those infinite dodges

[brisk panther]

yeah i always use kinetic deflector. used a +2 stam curio earlier but since it seems bugged to only give +1 stam im using all hp curios instead. im mostly using the top one of the swords i linked which gives me a total of 46% extra block efficiency

[steel egret]

Regulars are 10, force sword apparently 20, staffs 30?

[sonic coral]

Interesting

[summer prairie]

I saw the kinetic deflection formula, but has anyone actually tested how much you generate running all stamina

and deflector

[cyan notch]

yea

[brisk panther]

running all stamina, do you mean 3x +3stam curios?

[summer prairie]

well yes, or just +1 since it's all the same

[manic needle]

@summer prairie See here

[cyan notch]

pretty hard to tell from bullets cuz they just spam you but i was able to tank a gunner until it had to reload and it only went up to 50%

[brisk panther]

what diff is this?

[cyan notch]

damnation

[orchid nest]

which one would you guys replace though? prob carapace? I think the flak one lets you light special 1 shot the armored ragers instead of heavy, and it should let you heavy special a mauler in 1 if you aim it right. but then again, very minimal slaughterer stacks will also let you do that.

[summer prairie]

Oh that's pretty good

but regular weapons don't need the stamina anyway

other than afk blocking a daemonhost

was more interested in FS deflector

[cyan notch]

i only used a sword cuz it had +4 stamina and +1 from perk

[clear heath]

Does the stamina even matter if you're blocking with peril?

[orchid nest]

I guess carapace on it could be interesting too if it let you hit some kind of breakpoints with full slaughterer stacks so you could pop a crusher with horde mobs around

[summer prairie]

The formula for peril gain is (Attack Stamina Damage * 0.25 / Max Stamina)% of Peril.

so yes

[clear heath]

interesting

How does block efficiency work on that formula?

[summer prairie]

I guess it lowers attack stamina damage

[orchid nest]

I don't think anyone knows for sure but what @summer prairie is speculating there is probably correct

[clear heath]

wait, so a full peril bar can tank as much as 4x your max stamina?

good to know

[cyan notch]

well not full its 90%

[manic needle]

It's incredibly frustrating the lengths Fatshark goes through to obscure this kind of information, tbh

[orchid nest]

on paper I guess but the more efficient it is the more passive quell will fight it to the point where you can just like tank anything indefinitely

[summer prairie]

it's definitely going to get nerfed at some point

[orchid nest]

yeah 😦