psyker-class

[mighty pike]

I still don't understand why brutal momentum is any better than something like slaughterer or anything else that gives extra damage from repeated hits

[vast oasis]

brutal momentum + headtaker/decimator imo

[full kite]

cleaving through units really good for CC

[jovial frigate]

Force sword isnt a horde weapon, but j sat is also running with a reliable duo so i think he is prioritizing his kit to be of use for the utility it has. flamer zealot, surge staff and good push block and average light chain stagger from force sword sound pretty well rounded from a duo perspective

[fluid knot]

MKV is use push attacks, MKII is dodging between enemies and alternating between running heavies and lights

[full kite]

I meant like heavy spam or light spam

[vast oasis]

it does a shit ton of damage already, you want more utility with cleave

most stuff you hit is overkill

[full kite]

wait so MKV just spams push attacks?

[fluid knot]

For cleave yeah

Its still got good single target, but if you've a numbers issue, yeah push attacks

[valid lake]

yes

[full kite]

does stamina fully recover?

[jovial frigate]

antax mk 5 with hit mass blessing is free real estate on psyker

[vast oasis]

throw some light attacks to recov stam

[sage flower]

yeah, hopefully it doesn't sound like I'm throwing shade on jsat. He is clearly making decisions based on his team's needs.

[full kite]

ah ok

similar to evis

[fluid knot]

Theres like a second delay between the push attack and the stam regen anyway

Its really not a lot

[full kite]

this feels like a silly question but can you vent with axe

[vast oasis]

auto vent

[mighty pike]

You get infinite shoves more or less

[full kite]

im only level 23

[jovial frigate]

i run 34% stam regen and you dont even need to mix lights in with that much on mk5

[mighty pike]

Only force sword can vent

[full kite]

idk how to auto vent

[sage flower]

no, but it passively vents very fast.

[jovial frigate]

you just hold w and pushblock

[full kite]

oh wait on kill?

[vast oasis]

it literally passively vents

[fluid knot]

I dont believe there are any blessings related to losing peril on axes no, but simply by having it out, your peril will drop naturally

[full kite]

oh I get what you mean

[sage flower]

not as fast as an active vent, but fast enough and you get to hit things while doing it.

[full kite]

I just like spamming lightning too much

[near wyvern]

I have +25 infested and +20 unarmoured on mine, the image I have was taken before perk re-rolling

Like I said he does not have good damage for it, he can't kill poxwalkers efficiently, I can

He should probably roll that 8% weakspot into 25 infested but I would need to see the breakdown to know for sure

[sage flower]

you've lost all credibility with me. Video of a horde, or i won't bother continuing the discussion.

[near wyvern]

I'll deliver but probs after two weeks since I can't play for the next week

[crisp storm]

push attaacks? like the attack after the block?

[vast oasis]

yes

[split oxide]

In your opinions(for psykers vs hordes @ heresy+): What is Best Axe(damage/speed)
I got AtroxII,IV AntaxV, AychlysVII .. or other

[fluid knot]

MKV probably

[mighty pike]

I've never heard anyone anywhere even mention the combat axes

[fluid knot]

MKII and the other Caxe are good if you wanna dance between targets quickly, but they're not as good at horde clear, T axes i aint used all that much so cant really tell you which of those is good

[magic burrow]

I prefer the dueling sword. Its a good combination of mobility and attack speed.

[frigid marten]

Yes is the secret martial art of the psyker, peril block so psyker can spam push attack this is why combat axe is good for horde, because push attack is a cleave and psyker don’t care about stamina

[dim cradle]

Agreed, 🐜 ax’s push attack is a horde clearing engine

[pseudo dome]

LFG psyker penance runs. Heresy BB monster. Will return the favor if needed

[mighty pike]

Randoms are pretty willing to help you with it in my experience. Although I did it earlier and a zealot stole the last hit

[pseudo dome]

lol did it still count

[mighty pike]

No

[pseudo dome]

brutal

[mighty pike]

And immediately everyone else died and we lost the round thirty seconds after

[pseudo dome]

karma

[mighty pike]

The Zealot apologised so I don't know what actually happened but I wasn't impressed

[pseudo dome]

If you wanna give it another go, I'll help out.

[mighty pike]

I don't know how much I care

I'd help you do it now but I don't want to do another heresy game for a while

[wary adder]

Is anyone doing help with penances I've been stuck on going out with a bang for awhile lol

[mighty pike]

GOWAB was the least achieved achievement in the game once

Might still br

[vast oasis]

get to the elevator hold out event
camp the room before the trigger/elevator room
4 gunners spawn together on one side of the room as soon as the event starts, so make sure you prep your peril beforehand

havent met anyone who camps them , so it should be free to attempt in quickplay

[magic burrow]

why are veterans ultra competent at taking out all the shit Im brainbursting, but they take a lunch break the moment ragers start humping my legs

[empty basin]

Simple brain, they see a highlighted head they have to shoot it

[magic burrow]

people who say the warp battery penance is easy to get must not get blessed with ADHD vets every game or something

[empty basin]

It's just RNG, you gotta get a spawn of like 5+ elites in a cluster

[wary adder]

Thanks for the help 😁

[magic burrow]

popping adderal like candy while shooting the blue heads

[alpine portal]

I kinda gave this some though I think vets are seeking high prioty targets to shoot the blue glows and attracts attention over other stuff and before they think they shoot.... at least thats what I tell my self when I play vet

you kinda need to shoot first and think later in higher diff

[magic burrow]

I wish they would just hide the blue glow from non psykers

so apparently I got the penance anyway, but the game didnt tell me until I relogged

[fast swan]

good enough to buy and upgrade/combine with deflector?

is finess important?

[supple skiff]

dictates your crit change I believe

[magic burrow]

with a blessing that's based on crit that's kinda sucky

[supple skiff]

so, renders that blessing rather useless

I'd give that a pass

[fast swan]

gotcha

aint there a similar blessing that gives soulblaze on weak point hit>?

[supple skiff]

can't speak to how good blazing spirit is generally. I have it and don't see much value, but there may be some purge staff stuff with that blessing im not aware of

in the pins in this channel there's a link to a blessing database

[fast swan]

gotcha, ty

[mighty pike]

Do it with the feats that passively generate warp charges and the purgatus staff

[supple skiff]

looks like its just crit for soulblaze, you might be thinking of the quell on weakpoint which is a thing for FS

[fast swan]

also does soulbalze really do anything besides a crazy weak DoT?

[sharp urchin]

It synergizes with your level 30 talent point. So everything covered in soulblaze can generate a warp charge on kill 10% chance

[lethal folio]

The dot gets strong when you get higher stacks.

[valid lake]

finally my grind to lvl 30 is done

[fast swan]

gotcha

[sharp urchin]

When testing in Meatgrinder I never found the dot to be particularly useful on anything other then the rank and file units and some specials even with higher stacks. I still like soulblaze but I use it more for generating warp charges and making everything bright white and more visable.

[torn bison]

what feats are needed for pick n mix?

[supple skiff]

lvl 30 talent bottom row

name escapes me. Gives faster BB with lower peril for a bit

thats about the only one

[violet thorn]

so uh apparently you dont actually need to knock all the enemies off a ledge with the ability for the penance

[supple skiff]

nah, I got it randomly swinging an axe once

[violet thorn]

yea I only got like 6 with an ability and then used a tac axe to shove the rest of the walkers off the smeltery ledge

[steel lake]

So how do people feel about selfish players who take ZERO notice of brain burst on enemies (even horde enemies) and kill them before it gets killed by BB? Getting a lil sick of losing stacks because some asshat with a bolter has a lack of brain cells. I THINK I have an idea how Fatshark could mitigate this though.

If Brain Burst applied a Damage Mitigation so other sources of damage did 50% less damage to the BB target while the BB is being cast, exceptions - Monstrosities, Mutie and Ogryns OBVIOUSLY - and have it count as a Body Hit even in the head, then it would secure BB Kill on THAT target.

Maintaining stacks should be a matter of player skill, not how dumb are your team mates... right?

[sharp urchin]

My friend did it with the force sword push I believe on chasm terminus. The map where there are 4 bridges.

[mighty pike]

Stacks are for suckers you just have to accept you won't maintain full ones

[violet thorn]

if you have a halfway decent vet they'll know they can dps it harder then you

[steel lake]

I dont mind dropping stacks if its MY fault. I do kinda mind if other players are selfish/ignorant

[supple skiff]

your better off ignoring warp charges

[valid lake]

i got it done on the map you killing the virus incubators there's doors hordes spawn out of right on bridges

[supple skiff]

if a BB is half charged on the target you get a WC anyway

[magic burrow]

Brainburst just needs to award a warp charge if the target dies before brain burst completes

[mighty pike]

Does already beyond 50%

[violet thorn]

I only use BB on ogryns/maulers/maniacs anyway

oh and snipers

[supple skiff]

I use the ult as a precast with the cast speed increase and use it on gunners and shotgunner groups

[mighty pike]

It really feels like we have the same 3 conversations on this board and nothing else

[supple skiff]

side effect of the copium

[magic burrow]

warp charges are nice to have if you use the perk that sets people on fire when you ult. Though with that perk and a purge staff, charges stack up kinda fast anyway. It's mostly the other staves that have issues with it

[supple skiff]

and lack of content

[valid lake]

i pretty much gave up useing BB after playing withh a vet and his plasma just doinga a faster and better job

[torn bison]

do you not need the feat that increases BB stacks to 6 for pick n mix? just the bottom row 30?

[sour olive]

bb wont one shot lots of things in higher difficulty anyway though

[magic burrow]

at least we have conversations about the game. it could be worse. We could be vet chat.

[violet thorn]

vet chat is basically gen but not retarded

with 400% more femboy posting

[sour olive]

I would say get used to it

[violet thorn]

gen is just a kiddie wasteland

[mighty pike]

General is arguing about the state of the game

Psyker is about force sword good/bad, which staff, brainburst useless

[gloomy obsidian]

Which is better?

[valid lake]

and our toilet cosmetics

[magic burrow]

I dont even think veterans are OP. I just dont like them. It's like people who go play a fantasy game with a wide variety of races and classes, and they make a human fighter. I mean, come on man.

[sour olive]

I'm thinking about force sword with revolver run

gonna kill shit faster than our vet lmaof

[mighty pike]

The emperor will will have to protect extra hard

[violet thorn]

nah idk if Vet is OP as much it has become an acidential jack of all trades which does better in almost everything

[sharp urchin]

Doing more damage to carpace armored enemies with purgatus is kinda useless imo. They take forever to kill with purgatus.

[sour olive]

just charge force sword and stab it

or go BB

it exists with a reason

[torn bison]

anyone have any good psyker guides

[violet thorn]

I aint complaining, means its easier to not pay for cosmetics

[supple skiff]

if every class could do every role the vet can do as well and simultanously game would be very easy

[sour olive]

funny power sword go BRRRRRR

[supple skiff]

Kantrel XI and a Power Sword and you have every base covered save for anti armor at range

[sour olive]

it makes devils claw ashamed even it has better dodge and doesnt need to charge

shovel surprisingly survived

[violet thorn]

Vet also is good enough to run a bunch of guns/melee weapons without getting gimped on Heresy+

which you dont rly get on other classes

[sour olive]

and more tanky than psyker

200 toughness

press F for further 75%reduction

[sharp urchin]

I never liked the power sword cause its attacks are so plain. Swing right to left and left to right. Charge power sword and swing left and right. No variety in its attacks.

[supple skiff]

thats the one thing I'll geve psyker over vet is tankiness

[torn bison]

I view vet as best for taking out additional shooters/ranged elites at range, psyker for single target burst removal with cc options, ogryn for hard CC/tanking capabilities, and Zealot for Melee range special removal.

Psyker BB is just too weak for it's intended role on higher difficulties atm imo so it feels worse than the other classes.

[violet thorn]

they should of adjusted BB to simply take longer but always guarantees a 1 shot kill

[torn bison]

I'm okay with it not 1 shotting oggies, but it should 100% kill man sized enemies and dogs in 1 hit.

[violet thorn]

I mean it still could as long as BB was HP adjusted

[feral crater]

Stand there doing kamehame for a couple episodes while allies fight beast then KS it

[torn bison]

It staggering ogryns is a very useful tool. Opens bullwark shields.

[violet thorn]

no one wants to use a morbillion Potw for a since dude in Hersey

[supple skiff]

vet has higher base toughness and more more toughness regen on melee kill for some fucking reason. But its toughness regen on command is not as good as ours with quietude and force sword wit deflector is peak tank

[sour olive]

fatshark: we need CC class and its gonna be ogryn
player: powersword vet
fatshark: we need someone kill elite and its gonna be psyker
player:bolter&plasma vet

[supple skiff]

save for slab shield maybe

[violet thorn]

you dont even need bolter or plasma literally just a non-shit gun tbh

[sour olive]

yeah right

[violet thorn]

you can still run with Lucius and do fine

or braced

[keen belfry]

Did some one say gun pskyer ?

[supple skiff]

XI can take out everything except crusher and bulwark well

[violet thorn]

Ofc Lucius is still moody as fuck

[valid lake]

imm kinda tempted gig e gited me witha pretty good kantreak

[sour olive]

oh yeah, the equip animation is shitty as old bolter's

[supple skiff]

even good with maulers and armored rager's if you mag dump their chest

[violet thorn]

I use Graia Auto simply because I dont want carpel tunnel doing contracts

Like I have a 500 pretty XII but fuck me Im not going to play cookie clicker for 20-30 minutes

[split oxide]

Yup - definitely. esp with melee too.

[violet thorn]

thats why power sword is such a comfort weapon

[supple skiff]

XI balanced by the fact its boring as fuck to use lol

[violet thorn]

charge once boom horde go bye

[sour olive]

also armor pen

[supple skiff]

does decent damage to crushers too which blows my mind

^^

[valid lake]

so true i cant stand useing it

[violet thorn]

XII isnt that bad but long tern its just ugh

[sour olive]

if other gun has better shit than iron sight

[violet thorn]

mfw the fucking Lucius has the worst sights in the game as the DESIGNATED SNIPER RIFLE

[inland sand]

what's the cooldown on the Psyker F

[violet thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-gif-25976706

[inland sand]

in seconds

[supple skiff]

give mk 3 hellbore a holo sight and remove that brutal ready up animation and im there 100 percent

[sour olive]

lucius with holo sight when

[sharp urchin]

I don't mind the ready up but I could definitly go for the holo sight

[violet thorn]

"hmmm today I with give this bastardized long las worse sights then the autopistol"

[ebon jolt]

30 seconds.

[long wharf]

yeah, being able to push enemies and dump 50% peril every 15 seconds would be too OP

[violet thorn]

they could literally just make the iron sights like the non-braced autoguns and would be better

[supple skiff]

lucius also really suffers from server lag, but thats not really the weapons fault

[violet thorn]

this

[long wharf]

meanwhile the Veteran can go into see-all-enemies-and-headshot-them-easier every 15 seconds, sometimes with no cooldown once they hit 30

[violet thorn]

"forgotten" charging is beyond rarted

[ebon jolt]

The Mk3 isn’t that bad. I’d say it’s better than the Mk1 & Mk2.

[inland sand]

nice okay

[sour olive]

smth like vermintide iron sight

just crosshair

[violet thorn]

I do prefer 3

but all of them have the dogwater irons

I want to like it

[ebon jolt]

The Mk3 can also do absurd damage which is nice. One shot reapers when using the ability.

[violet thorn]

but the game gives me so many reasons to just not use it

[sour olive]

also the equip animation didnt improve after update

shit, bolter get a faster one

[violet thorn]

Im just glad I grinded the shit out of Vet so when the snowstorm ends in like June, FatShart will finally shove a ton of qol into the game so I can use half the guns I grinded for without bashing my brains in

like in Vermi 2

[sour olive]

hope they delete RNG feature

[long wharf]

that'll never happen

[sour olive]

ik

but dear lord its shit

[violet thorn]

which RNG feature

[sour olive]

yes

[long wharf]

randomized weapon stats, perks, and blessings is here to stay

[mental vortex]

guys I need some advice on feats

[long wharf]

randomized enemy spawns is here to stay

[mental vortex]

Im currently level 23 and Im debating if I should use brain focused feats or not

[long wharf]

Sour Milk offering random gear is here to stay

[violet thorn]

it'll be less suffering when they finally finish Mech Mommy's crafting

[boreal sun]

no

[violet thorn]

fucking dumdum on half my weapons

[long wharf]

true, we were supposed to have it by end of last year

[mental vortex]

on one side bb without the 6 stack feat sucks at doing damage but I also kinda need the peril bonusses

I mean its fine at malice

but heresy its just useless

[violet thorn]

"big snowstorm prwease understand"

https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-gif-22571722

[boreal sun]

Yeah. It's been over a year and crafting isn't even done yet

[violet thorn]

they done this shit before its nothing new

[long wharf]

sorry, I don't speak weeb

[sour olive]

all of my friends recommend against darktide

and played more than 200 hours

[ebon jolt]

I mean what better blessing is there for autoguns besides crucian roulette?

[violet thorn]

Its not a bad game but I'm glad people are telling them they cant just nae nae people who arent used to this

[boreal sun]

You know what really sucks?

[violet thorn]

I went in fully knowing DT would be a clownshow

[boreal sun]

Other countries usually don't get back from holiday for like 1-2 months

[long wharf]

daring to call a game fully released when there are UI buttons with "coming soon" on them over critical game features?

[boreal sun]

We might not see any updates til then

[sour olive]

you mean we can only get update until feb?

[boreal sun]

probably

[elfin roost]

Yknow

[boreal sun]

Might even be march

[elfin roost]

There is a more than likely chance there's gonna be a gun focused psyker class

[sour olive]

Im more into melee focused

[violet thorn]

Europe doesn't have Buffalo Wild Wings so theres still no excuse to leave the states

[boreal sun]

Bdub too expensive

[violet thorn]

wha

[elfin roost]

They really do seem to want to keep the damage/utility balance with staffs at around 10/90 whereas guns are 90/10

[boreal sun]

Psyker should literally melt everything. That's what they do.

Psyker should be hit 3 times and you're dead.

They are legit g l a s s c a n n o n

[elfin roost]

At best a gun is gonna kill something big or stagger something smaller, at best a staff is gonna stagger something big and clear rooms of babies

[mental vortex]

bb should stack with difficulty

[long wharf]

that's how FartShart advertized psykers

[elfin roost]

A gun focused psyker class would be cool, having damage potential instead of cc with magic

[boreal sun]

psykinetic bullets

Penetrates everything

[ebon jolt]

There’s a ton of stuff already data mined. They could just release existing content that’s already been developed without needing to many people on hand to do it. Might get something this month. Like the rest of crafting.

[mental vortex]

I mean psyker has recon

[long wharf]

and instead they decided after the closed beta that psykers were too cannon, not enough limp noodle

[mental vortex]

recon is just kinda op

even without veteran ult

[long wharf]

I don't think the psyker should get any two-handed guns

[elfin roost]

You could fuckin STARE at an enemy and do more damage than a fully charged voidstrike

[boreal sun]

That's because this is a "live service" game where they plan on releasing 2 fucking weapons an update as content

There are probably 5+ missions done and ready to be released

[valid lake]

woah we hating on void now wtf is even good then

[elfin roost]

Its not bad

[boreal sun]

Void strike is the worst damaging staff in the game

[long wharf]

fucking finally

[elfin roost]

But to say it does acceptable single target damage, that is laughable

[elfin roost]

Exactly

[mental vortex]

no bullet blocking

mid

[long wharf]

I've spent literally an hour today, total, trying to roll +5% melee crit chance

[long wharf]

I'm going to be testing it for soulblaze performance

[sour olive]

and hows your game experience

[boreal sun]

Yeah, that shit is dumb.

Literally dumb as fucking rocks.

[sour olive]

[boreal sun]

Maybe even worse

[long wharf]

it won't be anywhere near as good as bloodthirsty, but it'll give me an idea of whether or not that's worth going for

[valid lake]

so surge no damg(just stun) purge feels like ass teill you max lvl tramua is shit and void is shit hmm so no staffs are good

[mental vortex]

ah

[boreal sun]

Surge does MASSIVE damage when it crits.

[long wharf]

if you think surge has zero damage, I recommend you try to surge enemies with armor

[sour olive]

I feel purge is more like comboing with 30-2

[long wharf]

not just crit, if you surge an enemy long enough, you get a pop of damage

[sour olive]

for you to farm warp charge

[frigid marten]

surge is 4x on armor

[long wharf]

that pop of damage is great against enemies in armor

[boreal sun]

All staffs are useful, trauma staff is the shittiest staff though

[long wharf]

clear groups of scab shooters by yourself

in comfort and style

[sour olive]

horde cleaning is its secondary feature

[elfin roost]

Surge is absolutely BONKERS against armor

[sour olive]

its just for farming warp charges

[long wharf]

horde clearing is not any feature of the surge staff

[sour olive]

I mean purge

[elfin roost]

Horde clearing is the weakest aspect of surge

[sour olive]

the flamer

surge is for stagger

[boreal sun]

I think void is the best staff overall

[elfin roost]

Its mostly meant for any situation where itd benefit you to stun certain groups cough gun users cough like dogs

[naive sun]

Bullet blocking isn’t important
Bullet preventing is important

[sour olive]

cleaning flak armor shooter

[elfin roost]

Void imo is on the same tier as trauma if not below surge and purge

[naive sun]

If you kill the things making the bullets, you don’t have to block them

[boreal sun]

Void melts hordes

[elfin roost]

And since most shooters have armor

[mental vortex]

it takes one competent veteran to make any scab clearing you were planning to do with the void useless but it pierces shit so its cool

[elfin roost]

Purge does it faster, easier, and with denser numbers

[boreal sun]

There's a difference

Purge has a shitty ass fucking left click

[near wyvern]

Void is the all arounder of the three staves

[elfin roost]

So does void

[boreal sun]

And it's not ranged

It's short

[elfin roost]

Lemme just toss some foam at the gunners rq

[idle bay]

it shot but it have crazy stagger

[elfin roost]

Its short but you can stop dogs from being a threat much easier

[boreal sun]

it honestly doesn't matter what staff you pick.

[elfin roost]

It doesnt but still

[mental vortex]

because the recon will always outclass all your options

[boreal sun]

Everyone will have their preference of staves

[long wharf]

the reason why you think void sucks is because you aren't aiming for weakspots with it

[boreal sun]

Void is only good with weakspots

[elfin roost]

I have been but the fact you need to hurts

[boreal sun]

it's really not hard though

[long wharf]

and if you want to maximize recon performance, you play vet

[fast swan]

what is the best ascendant blaze feat loadout?

[mental vortex]

hey at least psyker has uhm

psyker has the uhhhm

psyker has the beloved

[fast swan]

psyker has the voicelines

[elfin roost]

hitreg bad

[mental vortex]

my beloved says I should play veteran

[boreal sun]

void is good in every scenario. purge is only good short range.

[fast swan]

i just hate the damn vet making all other classes obsolete

gut the class

[boreal sun]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[idle bay]

Psyker can pass through hordes unharmed

And have nearly unbreakable block

[mental vortex]

vet actually kills the hordes

[fast swan]

what feat setup should i just?

since i like ascendant blaze

[mental vortex]

you running purge?

[boreal sun]

Psykers have infinite dodge with force sword

[fast swan]

naw son im running void

[mental vortex]

well idk then

[boreal sun]

run purg

[valid lake]

woot i can stand in a horde with an axr this is really how a psyker should play

[fast swan]

naw son purge is boring

[mental vortex]

okay to be fair the infinite block thing is pretty strong

[boreal sun]

then play whatever you want.

[mental vortex]

but that doesnt nullify the 100 advantages a vet has over you

[idle bay]

Probably most unique function psykers have - is to give party breathing room and prevent the push from massive elite spawns with Surge staff.

[boreal sun]

If you want a meta build, you play purge with blaze.

[fast swan]

gotcha, what is a meta void build i can try out

[mental vortex]

also voice lines

[fast swan]

love me void staff

[idle bay]

Anything else - others do better 🙂

[mental vortex]

never forget the voice lines

[long wharf]

purge really isn't "meta"

[boreal sun]

Meta build specifically with purge

[fast swan]

void staff good feat loadout?

[mental vortex]

does meta even matter at heresy and bellow

[idle bay]

And we can block bullets with a sword if we lucky with blessings

[boreal sun]

can't void get ascendant blaze on it?

[long wharf]

you mean blazing spirit

[boreal sun]

Yeah

[long wharf]

why the hell would you want that?

you're killing the horde with void

[fast swan]

whoever here useds the void staff lemme know what feats u use

[boreal sun]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[idle bay]

Below heresy you can faceroll on keyboard and still do the missions

[mental vortex]

even at heresy

[boreal sun]

hot take

[mental vortex]

even if Im shit I usually get carry teams

[boreal sun]

Surge staff helps bad players play good

[mental vortex]

ogrnys my beloved

[fluid knot]

"Meta" very rarely means anything in any game even at the highest settings. You can have the best and most well thoughtout loadout in existence, but if you're a shit player, it wont help, same goes the other way, a really good player, can use whatever they like and not have to worry too much

[fast swan]

void staff feats pls!

https://tenor.com/view/marflrt-gif-22495409

[long wharf]

I run 321113 for void

[mental vortex]

yeah thats true but using the "meta" helps some people feel better

[boreal sun]

psyker talents suck. Pick what you want.

[valid lake]

tough gain back with warp damg is great with void

[fast swan]

i see

[boreal sun]

the only synergy psyker talents have for a staff, is purg

[idle bay]

Hot take - Ogryns smarter than Zealots. Minds don't clogged with shit zealotry 🙂

[fluid knot]

I guess, bit odd imo but there we go

[long wharf]

yep, it's very disappointing

[boreal sun]

tbh

[valid lake]

but the beloved( big E) pollutes our minds

[boreal sun]

this psyker class literally feels like a copy paste of V2 first class sienna

[fluid knot]

The funny thing is ogryn chat has both consistently the nicest players and consistently good information in it

[idle bay]

You never see Ogryn dropping a medkit when Medicae station next corner, and yet 1 in 3 zealots does that

[boreal sun]

Literally all peril management shit

[idle bay]

Indeed 🙂

[mental vortex]

talking about ogrny

why run anything other than shield

[idle bay]

Nope, they pollute their own minds with own delusions, Big D E have nothing to do with it 🙂

[mental vortex]

why sacrifice being immune to all types of damage for

[boreal sun]

fatshark be like "PsYkEr StRoNg BuT hAs To MaNaGe PeRiL!!!?!?"

"Use staff skill before 97%"

[mental vortex]

big shovel

[valid lake]

spotted the mid oygyn player sheild is a trap

[mental vortex]

I dont play ogryn

gotta max out zealot and psyker before I do that

[fluid knot]

Because shield does no DPS which is sad

[mental vortex]

hm

[idle bay]

Weapon Swap bug (more like game not reading inputs properly since last hot-fix) stops me from redlining Peril

[mental vortex]

didnt think about that before

[fluid knot]

Its just a force sword for Ogryns, great defensively, wank for doing actual damage

[boreal sun]

There's a difference between a good a shieldgryn and one who just blocks all line of fire with it

[mental vortex]

oh yeah

those are not very epic

[boreal sun]

works good with psyker though

[fluid knot]

To their credit you do have to learn to actually play with the shield because its very different to the rest of our kit

[mental vortex]

I wish all ogrnys who blocked my shots as veteran a very mediocre christmass

[idle bay]

Unless it abuses bleed stacks and have stacking +5% (2 stacks per hit) blessing, Then you can Bleed Smashers to death in seconds

[fluid knot]

Not sure shield gets bleed blessings, just a couple of feats relating to it in the tree, and moreover, Paul, Bully Club and MKIII Cleaver will always kiil faster than bleed

[idle bay]

Clevaers are good 🙂 It's really sad that there aren't BIGGER cleavers.. like Ork Choppa sized cleaver...

[fluid knot]

Yeah we could do with a two handed blade tbh

Fallout style Bumper-sword or some shit like that

[idle bay]

Or high tech version.
Irridium pinch-bar.

[fluid knot]

Cant be giving us too many complicated things though, we'd hurt ourselves or little'uns lmao

[idle bay]

It's a pinch-bar... but super heavy pinch-bar

One smak send spiky people flying far away

[fierce spoke]

Between being able to jog at a brisk pace while charging and speed stays my psyker feels like speedu gonzalez

[idle bay]

New batch of Player's costumes must have small wheels attached to the ass - to justify that sliding that we have in Darktide 🙂

[oblique jasper]

y psyker have neckbrace every tim

big heads?

[fluid knot]

Weak necks pal

[idle bay]

Weak backs from carrying teams of complete noobs

Or Zealots

It's tiresome to save them from Pox Hounds each and every time

[merry wyvern]

I love the zealots that charge straight at mutants and trappers

Removing the net from the same guy 8 times in a run is the best

[idle bay]

And forgetting to unleash the Flamer and clean the room in seconds...

[merry wyvern]

Hey I also play zealot, I resemble that remark

[idle bay]

When i play Zealot it's Flamer first - smacking and stabbing have lower priority

[fierce spoke]

Kek

[elfin roost]

Theres like, 0 reason to go for a single target as a psyker imo

[idle bay]

It's like you step aside for a moment to point out Scripture/Grimoire or look for materials in well known spots and team starts dropping like~~ mayflies ~~ flies !

[fast swan]

what feats should i go using le void staff?

[elfin roost]

When your entire job is to steal that of Zealots and Ogryns or at least help them massively its probably in your best interest to let the heavy hitting thunder hammer or gun maniacs kill elites and specials

[merry wyvern]

I’d say headpopping crushers/bulwarks if your team doesn’t have an easy way to deal with them is worthwhile.

[elfin roost]

Yeah, thats the one situation you probably should

Psyker is versatile, but you really do need a specific scenario to take the job of a specialist

[idle bay]

Does not matter really. Void staff does not click with any of Psyker feats

[fast swan]

whats the purge staff loadout? may try that

[idle bay]

Only staff that have a *resemblance * of synergy with feats is Purgatus staff

[elfin roost]

Not just a resemblance tbf

Psyker is practically built around the thing

[idle bay]

I still must complain!

[fluid knot]

Point gun, hold LMB, kill specialist

[elfin roost]

GUN

??

[fluid knot]

GUN yes.

[idle bay]

Because while being build around it - its still lacking 🙂

[fluid knot]

Braces for chat to get fucking wild because "playing game wronk"

[merry wyvern]

What is this “gun” that you speak of?

[elfin roost]

Dunno whats so lacking about exploding the entire map in a blaze of glory lmfao

[merry wyvern]

Is that a different melee weapon?

[fluid knot]

MKI Agi-Autogun imho

[idle bay]

Recon Lasgan still works nice for Siblings

[merry wyvern]

Do you hit the enemies with it like a club?

[idle bay]

If you want to hear team Vet whine about ammo - then Gun Psyker is a best choice 🙂

[long wharf]

well, blazing spirit + shred isn't a great combination

it's better than nothing, but nowhere near effective enough to be worth using as a primary weapon

[fluid knot]

No, you use it exclusively to keep melee specials off your team and to kill snipers and the like, anything Ogryn sized, Ult and use KB to burst it down

[fierce spoke]

Honestly I've had that experience with some teammates

also nah, dropping like mayflies fits better for some of these people.

[idle bay]

It's just reminds me of one obnoxious character with a nice voice 🙂

And it's sad that Zealots does not have a voice line as MEME as "Sigmar! Bless this ravaged body!" ™

[gloomy obsidian]

Darktide Players when someone does play their Double D Size Surprise Build for Any difficulty

[hot field]

We need more meme voice line in this game

[torn bison]

whats the best cc psyker melee weapon?

[mighty pike]

Flip-flop

[torn bison]

I like games that do that. Destiny 2 had a raid boss, that had the ability to be immortal through people remembering it. The big bad is consuming the entire universe and the raid boss wants to escape, because if everything dies it can't be remembered and it will die. It escapes the universe through the players meeting it, as now it's being exists within the players consciousness outside the game.

[silver pagoda]

just played with maybe one of the most annoying psykers of all time, just hid the whole time and did nothing but brain burst random poxwalkers

like it's amazing that some people are actually worse than playing with bots

[mighty pike]

Sounds like he was trying to do the warp battery penance

[silver pagoda]

it was on heresy difficulty, pretty irritating

[mighty pike]

Wonder if he got it

[fluid knot]

That is so fuckin easy with KB though

[silver pagoda]

I hope so, the greedy varlet

[stray pond]

The best way to get Warp Battery is entirely on accident

[fluid knot]

Odds are that is how most people get it

I bruteforced it though and to tell you the truth, its really not a hard one to get done

I did get "Out with a bang" organically though

So who fuckin knows

[elfin roost]

I got it on purpose (kinda)
Would pop everything I could find, though I really focused on the specials and elites to make myself useful

[mighty pike]

I did mine on 2hp during the wave defence in that circle arena

[elfin roost]

Halfway in it became more subconscious

[mighty pike]

This is your brain on psyker. It takes only two minutes for the brainburst to be fully absorbed into the players subconscious

[stray pond]

Yeah Warp Battery is definitely an easy Psyker penance, and then getting Out With a Bang is an... Experience. I got it through accidentally going into Perils and THEN noticing 3 elites that I told my friends to stop killing.

[supple skiff]

still need out with a bang and the mallues one

[stray pond]

People have gotten it through a Plasma overheat though which is hilarious

[elfin roost]

Wait what

[supple skiff]

managed to get pick and mix in the heat of a random run

[elfin roost]

The plasma gun overheating counts?

[supple skiff]

wait

[stray pond]

Plasma overheating counts as a perils explosion apparently, it's bound to be fixed though

[supple skiff]

fucking spaghetti code

getting a class penance done on a different class

[stray pond]

It does less damage than a perils explosion though to my understanding. Which is admittedly very shallow.

[mighty pike]

I understood plasma explosion does more damage

[stray pond]

Oh? Well me being wrong isn't surprising

Either way.

[mighty pike]

Perils is 500 damage apparently

[stray pond]

Psyker is just a weird class

[fast swan]

vet so busted they can get other classes penances

[pastel wagon]

is this any good?

[stray pond]

Jesus that damage

[pastel wagon]

yeahh

[stray pond]

That is unironically the lowest damage I have ever seen on a Purgatus staff

[elfin roost]

Its purgatus

[fast swan]

damage so low you cant even roast marshmellows with it

[stray pond]

No kidding

[pastel wagon]

LOL

[elfin roost]

Damage so low you cant burn gasoline

[mighty pike]

Can't iron clothes with the head of that

[stray pond]

You want a Purgatus that's a little closer to this I think

[pastel wagon]

the other stats are so good though, how much is the damage stat actually worth on a purg staff?

[elfin roost]

Absolutely nothing

[desert lance]

What's the ideal perk for Purg?

[elfin roost]

Burn and cloud radius imo for damage

[stray pond]

It affects initial damage and how much damage the burn ticks do

[elfin roost]

Burn does hundreds more damage than 100% damage would

[elfin roost]

Well howd they find that out

[stray pond]

Same logic as a flamer I'm pretty sure

[elfin roost]

Howd they find that out for a flamer?

[stray pond]

Stands to reason that the fire would work the same way wouldn't it? And god I wish I knew

Burn is still better than damage though you're right on that imo

[pastel wagon]

ah but damage isn't just a complete throwaway stat

interesting

[stray pond]

It's probably fine below Heresy, or maybe even in Heresy

I feel pain every time I look at the Gun and Run blessing on multiple of my staves

Like this staff looks so nice and then I hit Run 'n' Gun and just get disappointed

[fast swan]

bro...

[mighty pike]

How does run and gun work on a staff

[fast swan]

run and gun on surg is awesome

you just sprint around while blowing stuff up

[stray pond]

You can hipfire your mouse 1

[fast swan]

and ur m2 i believe

[stray pond]

You still get slowed while charging your M2

[fast swan]

i thought you could sprint while doing that?

u cant?

rip the dream of run and gun void staff :/

[stray pond]

No, at least when I've used it it hasn't worked

Maybe it's a bug

Maybe it's supposed to work

That'd definitely up the value of that blessing a lot for me

Speaking of Voidstrike, what's the dump stat for a Voidstrike staff?

[mighty pike]

Blast radius apparently

[stray pond]

That kinda makes sense actually

[fast swan]

force staffs should really have a soulblaze version of this trait

[mighty pike]

Recently someone said the difference between maximum and minimum is negligible

[fast swan]

if void staff had blessing to do extra weaksopt damage to blazed enemies, could open up some really fun builds

[mighty pike]

I want a character with Molotov cocktail grenades

[fast swan]

leaked for zealot warrior preist class

[desert lance]

I'm sad they nerfed my lightning animation

[mighty pike]

I genuinely couldn't use the surge staff because of how blinding it was before the reset

[desert lance]

Weakness

Gimme back my epilepsy staff

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[stray pond]

I'm looking through my weapon inventory and getting sad that I don't have a good Force Sword. I have an alright Force Sword but no good one. And especially not one with Deflector.

Like this one is alright but not crazy

[mighty pike]

Enjoy your time with the non-sworders while you are

[manic needle]

All I want is a Force Sword with both Deflector and Exorcist 😔

[stray pond]

You're asking for a lot but I wholeheartedly agree

Instead I rock a pretty alright Devil's Claw

There's definitely far better out there, but it's the ol' reliable for my Psyker

[fast swan]

god i need a force greatsword

i need it now fatshark

[stray pond]

I want a Force hammer

[fast swan]

so long as the special gives it horde annihilating power i will be very happy

force axe, greatsword, hammer, halberd

[stray pond]

Empower the Psyker with greater melee capabilities, let us stab things with the warp more aggressively

[mighty pike]

Psyker Unchained

[stray pond]

Zlobenia please

[pastel wagon]

this ^^^ i want my battlemage

[stray pond]

That was my favourite thing in V2

[fast swan]

force dagger 🤤

[summer wind]

force slap

[stray pond]

Instead of bleed stacks you do Soulblaze stacks

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/rod-serling-well-thats-the-way-it-goes-gif-16697653

[stray pond]

I also wish characters had a shared inventory for crafting materials, dockets, and maybe even curios

That'd be so so nice

[fast swan]

dont we all

[stray pond]

My Psyker has so much stuff that'd be better on my Zealot

[graceful otter]

Okay but Zealot is for goobers

[stray pond]

And my Zealot has over 1000 Plasteel that can't be used due to being out of Diamantine of all things

I have a level 30 Zealot purely for the Thunderhammer

The Zealot isn't the character, the Thunderhammer is the character.

Though I could be convinced for a good Lacerate knife

[warped whale]

Thunderhammer is dookie

[mighty pike]

Force eviscerator

[stray pond]

I could get behind that

[fresh reef]

can we all agree that running no wound curios on Heresy is throwing most of the time?

[fast swan]

is force fist a thing in lore?

[desert lance]

Force Glaive

[stray pond]

Mmm, on Heresy? That's definite for Damnation, but you can get away without a wounds curio on Heresy. Doesn't mean it's a good idea though, at least 1 wounds curio is great.

[desert lance]

Something spearlike for sweeping mobs

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/jenna-ortega-gif-26508050

Sure

[fresh reef]

had a zealot without wounds who ran in far ahead, got trapped, and then he bitched at us for not res'ing

[mighty pike]

I know how wounds work and can be trusted with curios

[desert lance]

While we are at it, I want the Crusader sword and shield for zealot.

[stray pond]

That tracks

[fresh reef]

not to mention the firing squad between us and him

[mighty pike]

Sounds like he was overzealous

[fresh reef]

pretty sure he went full aggro on a crusher or something

[fresh reef]

[stray pond]

A zealot should be able to 1v1 a crusher no problem smh

Sounds like he was just bad

[supple skiff]

imagine not being able to dodge a crusher lmao

[fresh reef]

on multiple occasions, his zeal exceeded his judgement

he did not offer his contrition

because it was obviously our fault

[stray pond]

He clearly didn't have an incomparable mind

[mighty pike]

The Emperor does not Protect

[supple skiff]

didn't get a dram

[fresh reef]

neither did I as I was playing vet lol

[mighty pike]

Has anyone said "psyker; I hardly know 'er" yet

[stray pond]

Perhaps

[elfin roost]

I genuinely didnt know they could hit you

[fresh reef]

I never let them get through their big swing animation because I stg it has magnetism

either trauma to the feet or revolver to the head

[elfin roost]

Ive phased through that swing several times

[fluid zenith]

I will now in my next mission

[stray pond]

I don't think I've been hit by a crusher before, even on Zealot when I'm up in their face

I hear they fuckin' hurt though

[mighty pike]

I have been hit by a crusher. For science

[orchid nest]

I was thrown by a mutant just recently and a crusher slammed down on me mid air

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-the-flintstones-baseball-bat-batting-practice-batter-up-gif-18976297

[supple skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/videogame-combo-gif-3540164

[orchid nest]

indeed what it felt like

[mighty pike]

Recently I realised the fact that psyker has worse elite killing ability than veterans doesn't matter when veterans aren't trying to kill elites

[elfin roost]

[mighty pike]

Brainburst is slow but it's not as slow as a veteran understanding a sound cue

[idle bay]

I just had fun Heresy run, where i kept protecting Ogryn who was too fond of his twin-stubber. Protected the Big one!
Also i keep confirming that i am The Sniper Magnet - only getting shot by snipers in most of the mission i play. And this time something crazy happened - Sniper Spawn Right Behind me and Backstabbed me with melee attack. Sniper!

[elfin roost]

Thats hilarious

As what should be an average veteran

I am probably in the top 10%

Whats with classes most similar to playing call of duty and their players being stupid?

[mighty pike]

Guns are cool and psychologically accessible

Unlike our incomparable minds

[elfin roost]

I wouldve thought psyker would be the most popular class

[mighty pike]

Psyker is the worst class. Did you forget

[elfin roost]

Ah right

Psyker is dogshit

[mighty pike]

It is the deepest scrapings of the barrel

[idle bay]

Skill Issue ™

[heavy wigeon]

The more popular a class, the more its player population approaches a normal distribution.

[elfin roost]

That is, to say, a normal distribution of humans would be raisin brained

...You might be onto something

[idle bay]

I've met lvl 15 PSyker wearing full Penance set. Googled hood too

He admited that he had no life

[mighty pike]

He has an incomparable mind

[elfin roost]

Me when I compare the incomparable mind to another psyker:

[spark forge]

Could just have a second psyker character.

[mighty pike]

That's worse

[elfin roost]

What lunatic has 2 psykers

Thats even more lunatic-like than 1

[lime gorge]

wasn't there that guy with 5 ogryns

all 30

[elfin roost]

WHAT KIND OF CHAD RUNS 5 OGRYNS

[lime gorge]

all five could together make a mildly comparable mind

[elfin roost]

Nearly comparable mind

[orchid nest]

watch them use your other characters as bots like v2 eventually and the guys bot team choice is just 4 ogryns

[lime gorge]

I should do a 2nd psyker so I can change my voiceline to one that doesn't talk about PrOtoCoL so much

[mighty pike]

"Protocol demands you help me!"

[elfin roost]

I wish we could change stuff like voices

[lime gorge]

I want to punch myself in the face

[mighty pike]

https://tenor.com/view/french-girl-french-girl-bisous-blow-kiss-gif-17797457

[idle bay]

I'll make 2nd one with Loner personality because he is the most hilarious one

[elfin roost]

Didnt know mine was such a whiny bitch

[mighty pike]

"Justice sometimes appears untidy"

Yesterday she complained about Management so she's definitely French

[elfin roost]

Zealots look fuckin horrifying by the way

That face does more psykinetic damage than a psyker ever will

[mighty pike]

My zealot looks like an imperial guard reject you'd only notice after spilling her drink

[elfin roost]

My psyker is chad

[sleek solar]

Hello. Does anyone know if the blessing "Transfer Peril" works on the Surge Staff?

Transfer Peril = Quell 4.5% of your Peril on Weak Spot Hit.

[elfin roost]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-caulk-castration-gif-25386682

[orchid nest]

I don't think it can roll on surge staff

[sleek solar]

Ah ok. Good to know. It's listed on darkmass.gg for some reason:

https://darkmass.gg/weapons/ranged/Force Staff (Surge)

[elfin roost]

Logically it could

Just only on the m1

[orchid nest]

Ah ok weird. Yeah theres a couple other ones there that don't either

[mighty pike]

"corporal nosecracker, at yore service"

[hot field]

Pog

I hate autocorrect

[near wyvern]

@sage flower

it was freaking hard to find a damnation game with no extra palyers so this was the closest I could get

Raid on Chasm Logistratum, Hi-intensity Damnation (proof at the end of clip)

As you can see FS is good with hordes, it can act like a mini-slab on a choke and you can deal damage with it as long as you can freely dodge around.

Had to fallback here and resort to BB since no one was dealing with the elites and specials so the dogs and reapers would have gotten me if I stayed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAyQi5AEKDk

it's not the best for DPS but I believe it is justified to state it is good

[orchid nest]

FS has pretty reasonable horde clear with slaughterer. Not sure if you have it there but I don't mind using it that way if it has it.

[supple skiff]

tier 3 slaughterer one mine its fine for horde clear

[hot field]

FS might need some buff or minor change

Maybe?

[near wyvern]

FS is fine, what we need is proper crafting. If you want to buff it I would reduce the block visual so that you can see better through it

I will log in and post an image of the FS used

[hot field]

If We would ever get a crafting or better loot system

[orchid nest]

You can def get by against groaners without slaughterer but then it starts to feel bad against poxwalkers

[hot field]

I yet to find a good force sword

[mighty pike]

What exactly is a Groaner

[hot field]

I don’t want to camp the store

[keen belfry]

Worth?

[hot field]

Oof that charge rate

[mighty pike]

I don't buy anything below 360

[orchid nest]

the weaker horde units that look kinda more like regular zombies than nurgle ones. they have less health than poxwalkers by a good amount. like 200 vs 300 or something on damnation

[keen belfry]

dont ever fully charge a surge anyways?

[mighty pike]

I've never noticed there was anything other than a poxwalker. I'll have to see

[hot field]

Having warp nexus is already good anyway

[orchid nest]

but for general FS use I think not having slaughterer is fine if you have a staff horde clear but if I'm trying to use it with like surge or something that's when it's going to start to feel really bad not having it. on damnation of course, disclaimer there.

[hot field]

Question, how does warp flurry actually work on staff?

I may have spell that wrong

[orchid nest]

it works really weirdly. the stacks don't last long or something and it's hard to notice if you're not using it in a specific way. let me see if I can find the convo people were having about it

[round jay]

it speeds up the charge of your special

[hot field]

Is it really noticeable change of speed tho?

[round jay]

depend on which staff and on the current charge speed of the staff

[covert valve]

is warp flurry worth it on a voidstrike?

[orchid nest]

if you check this message and the convo surrounding it before/after it should answer your questions #psyker-class message

[round jay]

each time you do a secondary attack in a row, you gain 8% charge speed

[hot field]

Cool, I’ll check it out

[round jay]

i'd say with 5*8% it is noticeable

[orchid nest]

they just need to change the stack duration basically so it's useful doing longer channels

[hot field]

I got it on flame staff with nexus

[covert valve]

yes its noticeable but you gotta cast 5 non charges first, is that practical? or do we just take the 8% cast rate on each cast and call it a day

[covert valve]

on surge and purge staff it doesnt work bcuz it cannot continuously fire like void to build up stacks

[orchid nest]

yeah that is a decent way to sum it up. they fall off so quick you basically have to do that and then you get one very quick full cast

[hot field]

Welp sadly I’m stuck with it until I find better staff

[orchid nest]

anything after nexus is just extra on purg anyways so you're good

[hot field]

So what the good blessing on purg other than nexus

[orchid nest]

focused channeling can help while learning the staff but that can be mostly mitigated by good play and dodging. some people say they like barrage but it has pretty good suppression so it would mainly be to suppress stuff on your sides/back. really the best combo actually should be nexus and flurry, they just need to change flurry

[hot field]

Let hope fat shark change some stuff

Or finish the actual game

[fast swan]

yo does quietude work with tranfer peril blessing on void staff?

or passive quelling?

[orchid nest]

yes, it works with any quelling

[fast swan]

nice ty

[fluid zenith]

I would commit a second Horus Heresy for a staff like this

[fast swan]

whats the highest rating a blue weapon can have? 400?

[near wyvern]

Terrifying barrage is a waste on purge, your flames already supress enemies that are behind you if you get high enough cloud radius

[long wharf]

nope, you really want transfer peril on void

[near wyvern]

Doesn't matter. You want to look at base stats and then what actual perks and blessings are on the weapons

[orchid nest]

yeah that is around what I figured, I don't go for it. thanks for the added info

[ebon jolt]

I think wrap flurry paired with transfer peril can be good. Surge (blessing) needs warp nexus.

[long wharf]

warp flurry is pointless

you'll only ever see it do anything on void when you spam secondaries as fast as possible

which is a waste of peril

[fluid zenith]

Warp Flurry on void would make clearing hordes even faster

[orchid nest]

every time I think of this now I think of the video linked a few times of the guy animation cancelling them into a mutant and doing no damage

[long wharf]

nope, because you're doing minimum damage as fast as possible

past malice, you aren't clearing any hordes that way

you're better off taking the half second to charge a bit and then killing what you hit

dead enemies don't get back up and have to be paid attention to again

[fluid zenith]

Oh sorry the rich people are talking
I'll see myself out

My computer can't handle the game past malice

And I'm already running on low

[mighty pike]

Your computer is doing you a service

[long wharf]

... make sure you have DLSS and RTX turned off, then, if you have an nVidia card

check the actual config file

[covert valve]

would be decent for a fast stagger if shooters

[long wharf]

okay, but you have to continue staggering

[fluid zenith]

Where is the config file?

[long wharf]

and you build up peril really quickly that way

but my point about not killing still stands - shooters have more health than the horde

[supple skiff]

why are we assuming you won't charge to full with warp flurry

[long wharf]

because you won't?

you'll never see warp flurry actually take effect

[orchid nest]

knowing how much you have to charge void to 1 shot different kinds of enemies is definitely a knowledge check just as important as knowing any other breakpoints and is definitely worth learning for your desired difficulty

[sick veldt]

is this worth copping despite the low-ish (relatively) damage? is burn more important? (looking at stats only here not considering the perks/blessings)

[supple skiff]

im pretty sure you don't have to charge to full to make use of the blessing

[long wharf]

if you roll warp nexus on it, it's a good staff

[fluid zenith]

Funny how "Quell 3% Peril on weakspot hit" isn't that noticable until you're firing into a horde

[supple skiff]

I fire off one or two quick shots then benefit from the reduced charge time to bring it to full

[long wharf]

because it's harder to hit weakspots than you think

the size of the void secondary projectile enables you to hit enemies behind cover, but it also means aiming right at a head will collide with the body, not the head

there's a distinct "spak" sound when the void secondary hits a weakspot

it's a great sound

[fluid zenith]

It's literally the best sound

[long wharf]

it definitely competes with the satisfying crunch of an axe beheading an enemy

the sound design in Darktide is on point

[fluid zenith]

Yes, Beloved, they hit it in the head!

[supple skiff]

the ability to hit things around cover is great, and yeah that noise is 10/10

I run a flurry quell voidstaff and I love it

could use better base stats tho

[covert valve]

or you can charge every one to 100% which will give you 8% each cast

[long wharf]

nope

because the time window for warp flurry procing is something like a third of a second

far too short for purge and surge animations

[fluid zenith]

Is Terrifying Barrage a thing on void?

[long wharf]

and far too short for any charging on void

[supple skiff]

but as far as horde clear goes, I can basically fire indefinitely into them with proper aiming

[covert valve]

i mean for the void staff not the other 2

[long wharf]

again, charging to 100% puts you way outside the window for warp flurry

[fluid zenith]

I don't really care either way because Void go brr
But I still wanted to know

[long wharf]

the only thing I'd change on this is swapping warp nexus for Surge

[near wyvern]

What does surge exactly do?

[long wharf]

the blessing says "double shot on crit"

[near wyvern]

So double damage or double hit?

[long wharf]

meaning it hits twice whatever it hits when the shot is a crit

[sick veldt]

which of these would be more worth upgrading? i'm assuming the higher warp res is worth the damage tradeoff but i'm not sure

[near wyvern]

So with transfer peril it will proc that twice as well?

[long wharf]

I'd much rather it actually fired a slightly delayed second projectile

[fluid zenith]

Stacks 5 times for a maximum of 3% Crit? Or is it just worded weird

[long wharf]

I'd expect it to

[long wharf]

3% crit each stack

[near wyvern]

Yeah but things don't always work as expected in this game 😂

[long wharf]

very true

we have to test everything because FartDevs are genuinely incompetent

[fluid zenith]

The things you could do with that and Surge

[long wharf]

yeah, but you only get two blessings

unless, of course, we get a red tier that adds a third blessing slot

[fluid zenith]

2000 diamontine

[covert valve]

mine is working i clip a video to show you https://youtu.be/9UZMatKQJj8 (also has surge blessing on it)

[long wharf]

what tier is your warp flurry blessing?

[covert valve]

its T3 8% its doing a small jump in cast bar

[long wharf]

so yeah, you can see a slight increase after the first cast, but the problem is you don't see any increase beyond that

so is 8% charge rate worthwhile?

[near wyvern]

For warp flurry just hold RMB and never let go, when you want to cast tap LMB and keep holding RMB

[long wharf]

I'd rather have terrifying barrage

[long wharf]

nope, doesn't work that way

it goes by when the attack is made, not when you start charging

[covert valve]

correct but i was thinking if you do 5 cast then its 40% is same as 5 full casts 8% each

[long wharf]

you aren't going to see further effects of warp flurry when you do 100% charged attacks

[fluid zenith]

I wish stave charge speed counted for BB charge speed

[covert valve]

it saves peril as well since it jumps

[somber spindle]

inv

[long wharf]

so if you want to spam 5 secondary attacks and then do a full charge...

try it, and see what happens to your peril

[somber spindle]

best build is with a pistol

[long wharf]

you're spending far more peril than necessary to kill the horde that way

[covert valve]

does this proc to all enemies 7ish meters away it seems not to work for me

[fluid zenith]

Blood for the Blood God!

[long wharf]

I want to say I've seen it proc around the target that dies

I swear I've seen a horde briefly cower as I start killing it a long way away from me

[orchid nest]

melk time

[long wharf]

yep, time for Sour Milk's weekly rotation of the same boring contracts

[fluid zenith]

New name accepted

[long wharf]

honestly, it'd be nice if there were daily contracts that gave an item instead of his bullshit currency

[torn bison]

whats the psyker flame staff called?

[long wharf]

Purgatus

[torn bison]

toughness or health curios for damnation?

[covert valve]

yeah the jump does save peril, a fully charged is 20% on my staff and a jump of 40% is 13% peril. but not saying im going to use it that way 5 casts then a full

[long wharf]

health

[torn bison]

ur awesome ty!

[scarlet geyser]

to do, or not to do?

[long wharf]

I wouldn't

warp resist isn't a dumpstat

[scarlet geyser]

quell is?

running that one rn

[fast swan]

good enuf to upgrade?

[long wharf]

on surge? I'd go with lower damage and crit bonus

[orchid nest]

+1 for health. a lot of things have an extra modifier they do to toughness. like snipers for example is like 10x to toughness, so the extra barely makes a difference to how much health damage you'll end up taking

[fast swan]

got da deflector perk on anotha sword

[leaden pier]

nice

[fluid zenith]

You saved me a click on him, thanks
I'll just stick to his dailies this week

[long wharf]

that's a good staff

[violet yoke]

Mr. Melk just hooked me up with a pretty complete FS

[torn bison]

doesn't everyone have a different shop?

[long wharf]

even with the quell speed lower than I'd like

[torn bison]

that's hot af

[near wyvern]

Care, first target roll is really low, check your damage breakdowns, might not hit many break points

[long wharf]

he kinda did, very thoughtful of him

[fluid zenith]

I didn't know that. I just assumed it was the same because "I pity the who thinks Fatshark is sensible"

[long wharf]

I see you met his "service" requirements for the week

[violet yoke]

yea i saw the first target was low but the blessings and everything just rolled so good i had to grab it

[long wharf]

no, it wouldn't be sensible for everyone to have the same shop

[strange canyon]

worth from melk?

[long wharf]

finesse is too low

[fluid zenith]

No, it wouldn't. Which is why I assumed it was the same.

[strange canyon]

ah is that a necessary stat? alas

[long wharf]

but if you don't have a deflector fsword, might as well get it

for some people, getting deflector is pretty rare

[strange canyon]

i do have a decent one, so I'll save my melk bux

[long wharf]

I have about 7 fswords with deflector on them

[near wyvern]

Low finesse while got blessed with shred, Melk sure knows how to fuck us up

[fast swan]

dump stat for FS?

[near wyvern]

Warp resist

[fast swan]

oh yea ty

[violet yoke]

what are these recommended break points u speak of for the FS

[orchid nest]

meanwhile my fs in melks shop has 33% first target. thanks melk

[fast swan]

dump stat for void staff is blast radius right?

[leaden pier]

yea

[long wharf]

it's okay to be low

but I'd rather have lower quell speed

with lower quell speed, you can overcome that with good aim and positioning

provided you have peril transfer blessing

[near wyvern]

For light spam you want 100 unarmoured weakspots and 150 infested weakspots.

For heavy spam you want 200 unarmoured weakspots and 300 infested weakspots.

For light heavy combo you want a total of 200 unarmoured weakspots and 300 infested weakspots (calculate light + heavy damage)

The damage values on the break down list are before any buffs and perks, so if you have +20% infested damage your actual infested damage is number shown * 1.2

[fluid zenith]

Wouldn't you want a decent blast radius for void?
I don't know anything about void staves, I just find them to be the most entertaining type of psyker staff

[ebon jolt]

Guess this answers my question of whether a weapon can have two tier 4 blessings:

[near wyvern]

You don't need to hit all of those but it will give you an idea how easily you can kill trash with it.

For specials on mutant I can't state what the break point is since I haven't yet had time to calculate the special damage multiplier. I know mutants take 3 times more melee damage and are maniac type and have 4k HP on damnation.

[orchid nest]

nothing on melk, but 380 gun in armoury

[near wyvern]

I have 380 Mk IV Lasgun, it's a fun toy when running mats on malice

For Damnation? Nope.

[orchid nest]

this one is vraks mk 7 auto. I don't think I've even tried it before

[hidden coral]

What in the fuuuuck??? This is the best you've got today, milk? Does he hate us now or something?

Well, hate us more?

[leaden pier]

rip

[violet yoke]

you own a FS that does 300+ infested weak spot? just check all my FS swords none are close to that on sheet damge or with a 1.2 multiplier. id love to see an FS that says even 280 on sheet for infested heavy "Weak spot"

[orchid nest]

I took it as he meant you want to hit those in general, not just on the weapon tab. Like thats the poxwalker health in damnation.

[violet yoke]

o i thought he ment off the sheet damge. i can go test it out in the meat grinder for sure.

my b

[orchid nest]

slaughterer helps a lot reaching them. although you'll have to adjust what you need for what difficulty you enjoy. you can reach the 300 poxwalker breakpoint on lights even with slaughterer with a little extra help somewhere

[violet yoke]

the weak spot says 236...

for infested

if u ment critical weak spot then yes all my sword hit that

but just weak spot i was liek wow u must have nuts swords

[near wyvern]

Yea and I have 1.33 multiplier, well actually 1.3 because the 8% weak spot buff is bugged and actually gives 5%

I did not mean crit

I have 8% weakspot and 25% infested which is 33% total, well, would be but since the bug it's 30% until they fix the perk

@violet yoke

[fluid zenith]

Completing 25 missions is a high complexity according to Sour Milk.
Remembers the bugs and the road to 30
Ok, fair, you right.

[near wyvern]

25 missions is 8 hours and 20 minutes so yeah, it's a work day so it is a hard mission. Work days are hard man.

[fluid zenith]

🤔 maybe I should have done the math

[near wyvern]

That was evaluated at 20min per mission

So if you take 30min runs...

It's 12h and 30min

[fluid zenith]

My reply was literally going to be "all my missions I've done so far were ~22 minutes"

Yeah it definitely checks out after you do the math

[hot zephyr]

That's if you don't fail any runs either. If you fail say 10 runs to complete 25 and fail halfway through (10m/fail) add another 4 hours of failed missions on top.

[near wyvern]

True that

[cyan notch]

who fails 10 runs yo

[near wyvern]

My kids

[fluid zenith]

Fail 10 runs? Geez even I don't hate myself that much. And I work at 7-eleven

[cyan notch]

also you join some runs in progress

you dont start every mission from the beginning

[hot zephyr]

I wasn't saying that happens to everyone, I was just making an example

[long wharf]

well, sounds like you need to redirect them to missions they can complete 🙂

[woeful willow]

yikes the new psyker cosmetic sets are mid

[near wyvern]

Dude I was joking, no way I am gonna let them play Darkitde yet 😂😂😂

[long wharf]

yes, but the new masks/helms are nice

[fluid zenith]

If I fail more than 1 mission, I'm usually getting off to go play something else lol

[long wharf]

I played Darktide with my sons while they played

but my sons are all grown up

[near wyvern]

Well that's the thing, mine are not yet in school

[long wharf]

then yeah, definitely a little young for Darktide

but not for Halo!

I started my oldest two on Halo 1

[near wyvern]

Minecraft probably soon

[orchid nest]

I like the coat in the new set but you gotta combine it with other stuff

[summer prairie]

+weakspot damage doesn't increase your weakspot damage by that % as it only increases the weakspot modifier. Therefore it should be a percentage of the base damage. Crit damage should work similarly. If that's the math, it's not bugged

[violet yoke]

i was wondering the math on this as well

didnt seem like its a direct 1+1

[summer prairie]

So +8% would be only 8 damage if the nonweakspot hit is 100

[near wyvern]

If I fail a mission, it usually goes like this.

Team runs straight in. Dies. I am alone. I'll get to the point where I get a horde + boss and 2 dogs. They have a feast.

Everyone leaves the mission except me. I pat myself on the shoulder and state, I can solo this better next time. And off to the next mission we go.

The Bots are better than half of the playerbase because at least they group up, change my mind.

[jovial frigate]

skill dif

[orchid nest]

when I was helping a friend with flesh wound penance we had a bot on purpose for the last slot cause it teleports and keeps the stuff you are dragging busy

[near wyvern]

Well, with 236 base damage on FS heavy and +25% infested and +8% weakspot damage I can kill poxwalkers on damnation in a single head shot.

But TBF. If the +weakspot damage % shown is for some hidden number and can't be calculated to the numbers shown in the breakdown, what's the fucking point

Just give us a number we can use to predict our damage

[summer prairie]

It should be based on the first number

[split wadi]

humm so good

[jovial frigate]

that feels like a big investment for a mob that gets staggered by a ogryn fart

[summer prairie]

The bodyhit damage

[warped perch]

Dude playing darktide with your kids sounds like so much fun

[orchid nest]

I don't think it's a bad investment, just depends on build. Should be using them to reach some breakpoints, and if what you need is a horde breakpoint then you target poxwalkers since you will already reach the groaner one.

[old crystal]

I'm so fucking sick of people trying to speed run the level.

[near wyvern]

It makes a difference in a pinch when you can 2 tap light or 1 tap heavy poxwalker and groaner heads.

[long wharf]

it is fun

[old crystal]

They always end up getting fucked up, or caught up by a special.

[long wharf]

my oldest played until he had every ogryn penance done

[jovial frigate]

i guess but i'd rather have the weapon be able to do that to the rager mixed into the poxwalkers. difference of opinion i guess

[warped perch]

Do they have their own gaming setups?

[split wadi]

I play with friend, we let him die, not res him at all, and if he is still there before the evac we kick him.

[cyan notch]

LMAO

[near wyvern]

If I am running force sword I have a void staff so rager mixed in is not really a problem

[half iron]

among us

[long wharf]

well yeah, they're adults