psyker-class

[warped perch]

I still haven't seen a single deflector yet

[long wharf]

I'm trying to get bloodthirsty

[warped perch]

I'm using a knife rn and I actually love the mobility

[elfin roost]

Ranged units or elites? Cant count on either of the vets.
Horde? Cant count on the psykers or ogryns.

[warped perch]

Psyker with void staff can blow huge chunks out of a horde

[elfin roost]

Every game like this teaches you that not being able to do actually everything is practically suicide in public matches

[long wharf]

you're learning entirely the wrong lesson

stop joining pugs and expecting miracles

what difficulty are you playing at?

[elfin roost]

Im expecting competence

[elfin roost]

Malice, for leveling

[long wharf]

drop down to uprising

[elfin roost]

I cant pinpoint which class is the most independent so most hang out around 20

[long wharf]

until you know the levels well enough that you stop finding yourself in unrecoverable positions

and you have the gear to be more independent

or, you know, hit up the LFG channel for a leveling group, that way you have people to talk to and coordinate with

[elfin roost]

3 downed allies is uncontrollable I guess, so I might as well learn to solo, thats good advice

[long wharf]

yep, "might as well learn to solo" is exactly what I said to do

clearly you aren't looking for advice on how to play better, because you can't possibly be the problem.

[elfin roost]

I know Im partially the problem but when Im consistently fighting enemies the most and surviving the most its hard to say its just me

[cyan notch]

people levelling in malice usually arent the greatest i found it best to spam uprising for xp

[fierce hazel]

The amount of malice runs I've carried leveling my zealot is dumb.

[elfin roost]

Like, not even once do I get so much as downed as they straight up die

[fierce hazel]

Had one where I picked up everyone at least twice while we were holding down a hacking obj and freed people like twice as well

It was kinda sad tbh

I think one guy gave up and afk'd

[cyan notch]

sedition and uprising you can kinda just slash away and hit trade to victory

[elfin roost]

It's kinda sad when a level 16 psyker is saving an entire team multiple times at level 20+, once against a plague ogryn and a whole horde

[long wharf]

what you're experiencing is a strike team not ready for malice thinking everyone else is going to carry them through the mission

[ornate hamlet]

Had this happen with my level 9 zealot on malice, with the two teammates in question both hovering around lvl 20. It was insane

A psyker who did not know what a brainburst is and an ogryn who played like a veteran but without being able to aim

[elfin roost]

It is, usually it's not like this but it just pisses me off when it happens several times in a row

[plucky perch]

huh the emporer is being kind to the abhuman, to missions today two legendary gifts

[idle bay]

Whaaaat? Ascended Blaze can gain Warp Charges from other Psyker's Soulblaze !

[long wharf]

no.

[jovial frigate]

i remember seeing something about that a bit ago too but it's bugged if true

[idle bay]

Probably game simply don't differentiate from where Soulbaze effect came.

Bleed feats probably have the same mechanic - they don't care from where bleeding came - here is your 10% damage resist sweet Ogryn

[elfin roost]

I find it funny how turning hordes into fountains of blood doesnt count as bleed

[naive dawn]

@idle bay Yes its bugged, soul blaze appears to be a global effect. Any source of Soul Blaze (including not yours) seems to work for Ascendant Blaze.

[long wharf]

Had this been tested and confirmed?

[naive dawn]

I know its been tested by others, but I can confirm with my gameplay.

[long wharf]

With or without communion active?

[naive dawn]

I had a surge staff on and I forgot to replace ascendant blaze, in a game with a purg pysker and I was gaining warp charges from his purg staff.

Unless my communions % rocketed to broken degrees of luck, I can say for sure the procs were occuring.

[long wharf]

Best way to test would be to remove communion and test

[naive dawn]

Also this was tested by some Youtuber https://youtu.be/iuJHzNm6-ug?t=155

In which he did just that.

But i can say almost 99% without testing ANY soul blaze procs Ascendant, yours or other Psykers.

[long wharf]

I wonder how abusable that is if the psyker also run kinetic overload

[naive dawn]

Probably not too noticeable

It has to die with the soul blaze to trigger it

so its 14% per kill IF the target dies under soulblaze.

But if you tried to min max it, could be strong with multiple psykers

I think overload is actually pretty good on purg imo.

[long wharf]

That's what I meant, multiple psykers

[naive dawn]

Kinetic overload is slept on a lot, its had no internal cd and it procs globally.

As long as something is in combat with you it triggers and it tries very well to target elites > specials > normals.

[long wharf]

I read somebody saying that they weren't seeing KO place any soulblaze attacks on non-elites

[naive dawn]

it does

You wont see it in the meat grinder, but I've tested it in a lot of games. It procs whatever is closest to you at the status of Elite>Special>Normal

But it will effect normal units and 4 stacks of blaze kills them off pretty quickly.

But in a horde state, with mass units with purge and blaze it rolls the extra warp charges quickly to proc Overload

[long wharf]

That's what I'd expect

Maybe I should play with that more

[naive dawn]

I think its worth running over flayer but with only purg

[long wharf]

Stupid crafting system, I really want to play with a fsword with bloodthirsty and blazing spirit

[naive dawn]

You just all in on spreading flames, and a 4 stack ascendant blaze use can hit through walls and has a greater reach than most recognize.

[severe dove]

Did they fix trauma staff?

[long wharf]

Lol no

[naive dawn]

No new patch till sometime in Jan, probably.

[severe dove]

Damn i wanna use it

[naive dawn]

Then use it, its just easily the worst of the staff's atm, but as long as you play well with traits its not terrible

[severe dove]

I mean it's worse than gun psyker

[naive dawn]

Though I think Trauma may be the Psykers only way to get someone out of Beast of Nurgle

I dont agree, its a bad staff but the left click is still solid and the stagger of the right click is pretty massive. Just its peril building it brutal. You can only do 2 RMB charges before you cap peril.

[severe dove]

I could just use voidstrike till they fix it i suppose

[alpine portal]

My on mic. I hear a deamon host watch your shots.
zelot on my team wearing rags..
"THE EMOPRER GIUDES MY HAND"

[ornate hamlet]

Holy moly I kind of hope that isn't a bug cause that would be neat. Synergize multiple psykers together

Create a psyker gang

[idle bay]

Players are not alowed to have fun, especially ~~magic classes ~~ psykers.

[stuck basalt]

not bug, same with bleed you benefit from other player's bleed

[ripe zinc]

Thanks melk

[hot zephyr]

Found this at melk, debating picking it up for horde clear on my gun psyker build. Thoughts?

[fringe garden]

I have a pretty strong antax that I've been using a lot lately. I've found an odd niche, at least for me, with trauma staff. I actually like that it builds a decent amount of peril quickly. It lets the auto quell while using my axe restore toughness more consistently. I just switch to it to quickly break out gang of long range enemies or enemies clumped up around me.

For a setup relying on autoquell for toughness, and primarily their melee for killing stuff, it seems useful

[naive dawn]

I haven't played with anyone using it, but I would figure it's solid for specific setups or enemies. Bulwarks/Crushers/Reapers to just knock them down and hack away.

[bold flint]

huh, i didnt know auto quell worked for that feat

i just wanna find a soulblaze force sword

[ripe zinc]

oh thats literally what i run

[coral steeple]

is this worth upgrading, or should i try waiting for a better one?

[oblique hemlock]

I would upgrade it, finding upgrade materials isn't hard and that's pretty solid

[fringe garden]

Yeah, flak armoured is nice. Crit is nice. Good all around stats

[idle bay]

Though redlining Peril to get that Crit might be tricky at times and requires getting used to

[fresh sky]

great staff, definitely upgrade

i find charge rate is my dump stat though because usually want to fire it as fast as possible

doesn;t really need to be fully charged

[bold flint]

one of the few times i crash and its with a grottin purgatus staff

[idle bay]

Observation: After running few days with god-roll Flame staff and build that shits out Warp Charges like crazy i decided to go back to Surge staff. Though i did enjoyed streaming flame almost non stop and destroying hordes i missed the control that Surge have.

• Stopping mutant to chop his D head off - check
• Stopping Hound to chop it head off - check
• Insta mass frying scabs. Especially shooters over long distance - MEGA-check
• Being able to stop enemy push, especially Ogryns - check.
• Stunlocking everything and giving team breathing room - check
  I was missing that while using Flame staff.
  Also - flame blocks vision.

Yes Flame can stunlock huge group of foes .. in close range even more than Surge can... And can stop hound, and can glitch the nurgle crap out of DH... it lack stopping power vs ogryns and can't smoke out large spawns of gunner type enemies at range .

And when i swapped back to Surge - i suddenly started missing that great feeling that Flame staff gives when you burning everything that comes close...
Dammit!

With flamer staff you can simply camp spawn point solo on Heresy during encounters with Progress bar!

I'm torn apart

[bold flint]

yea the damn thing has like no range

and you have to stay exposed and on target for what i think is too long

all the soulblaze perks i think are just so weak

the 2nd tier feat that does soulblaze on brain burst specialist kill i think is just

worthless

2 stacks is bloody nothing, its restricted to elites/specials and its range is poor

for ascendant blaze to kill the dreg shooters you need at least 5 warp charges, which means dropping kinetic flayer

[idle bay]

Well they stop being weak when you stack them with soulblaze from Flame staff 🙂

[frozen hearth]

I dare say that MKII dueling sword + flame staff Psyker is a worthy sidegrade to the knife + flamer Zealot. both fun. i don't know the extent of this just yet as I have lvl 19 on psyker as compared to lvl 30 on zealot

-Psyker's sniping BB to the Zealot's AoE stun

-Psyker doesn't have to worry about ammo but probably will have to take a wound curio for overperil

-The Zealot's toughness resources is quite comparable to the Psyker with Quietitude so plenty tanky in both departments.

-the reload of the flamer and the quelling of max peril feels pretty much the same. except that the psyker has a 10% chance to quell peril. in analogical essence: 10% chance on kill for 10% reduced flamer reload time

• the knife has more sprint speed but i feel the dueling sword has more dodge distance

• no bleeding for the psyker, but i guess instead: a small increase in damage with warp charges. in turn, one would not have to rely as much on knife rolls to make the optimal bleed build. rather, the decent build for the psyker there feels locked behind level 15.

• both good for melting bosses, though I feel zealot has the edge if activating their Q while using their flamer. I find myself wishing to BB something for an extra warp charge.

• another way to look at it is that zealot has access to both bleed and burn stacks, but i imagine it might be tougher to pull off. meanwhile, psyker can only apply burn but has alternative ways to increase their base damage. sadly, i wish damage boosts also affect burn damage.

[zealous comet]

Which duelling sword is that mkII ? I was gonna try out the duelling sword with my purge staff, was about to ask what is generally considered the best duelling sword to run with that =p

[frozen hearth]

duelling sword with the black base

i think its light combo has one more attack in it

but i guess use what you like. i haven't played around with all of them just yet but the mkII is pretty good in my book

in the case for dealing with hordes

[zealous comet]

I havent tried any yet so no idea what Ill like :7

can u get the deflector blessing on duelling swords or are that just the force sword?

[cyan notch]

force sword only

[frozen hearth]

i can't imagine myself wanting the deflector blessing

just relying on luck and positioning

[zealous comet]

When you have shit teammates that thing is truly a blessing, lol

I hear people tanking demonhosts with dueling swords tho. Trying to find a youtube vid about it but seems I finally found something that there aint a video on x)

oh nwm, found one. rofl

[frozen hearth]

ok so i tested it out. it seems the mkII is much more suited for hordes than mkIV

[zealous comet]

Well lovely that my store is currently selling 4 mkIV's then x,)

[frozen hearth]

the mkII has an extra attack in its light combo. its heavy combo, instead of being two strikedown attacks, its a strikedown followed by a vanguard strike, although that strike is diagonal. at the very least, that strike sticks to finding heads

[zealous comet]

Thank you for the info man, cant wait to try it out myself 🙂

[shadow wigeon]

I have definitely not used dueling yet, why is it best?

[frozen hearth]

have? did you mean haven't?

ah

i actually don't know what people are saying about the meta of weapons but the dueling sword is a good weapon for staying on the defensive edge with hordes

it doesn't kill hordes as fast as i'd like it to but it does keep you safer, i feel. just as long as you keep moving and dodging. i find myself not having to push as much either.

[frozen hearth]

what have you been using so far?

[compact cargo]

caxe brutal momentum, peril block> anything

[shadow wigeon]

Knife, mobility mainly

[ripe zinc]

for a force sword special attack, would these proc off of the small hits when hitting an enemy with it?

[bold flint]

what do you mean psyker cant bleed

[frozen hearth]

with dueling sword but ig if you wanna stick with knife then lets gooo

[idle bay]

If only Force Swords had a passive Quell like non force weapons...

Imagine the possibilities!

[idle bay]

There were a video with bugged knife on Psyker that did non-stop bleeding from just one stab and with 500 damage per tick of bleeding

[shadow wigeon]

You can tank DH with non FS, at least on heresy.

You can rank with FS just requires more movement.

[idle bay]

You can passively tank Deamonhost with any non-force weapon (just by holding block) . You just need feat that that switches stamina for peril on blocking and you need to stack .. i think 40% Block efficiency from Curios and weapon ( i have 52%)

[shadow wigeon]

20% is fine, and yes with Kinetic Deflection.

[steel egret]

Isnt it 10% max from each curio?

[cyan notch]

12%

[grizzled nexus]

dueling swords have higher passive quell so u can do with less

[shadow wigeon]

I get the same passive quell with dueling sword as knife and claw

[fluid pendant]

Is the passive quell worth losing deflector from force sword tho?

[shadow wigeon]

Staff = 45s, FS = 30s, other melee = 10s

[grizzled nexus]

well its faster than antax at least

[shadow wigeon]

Same quell speed, 10s

Just tried in meat grinder

[shadow wigeon]

I go back and forth, with a good team, I skip Deflector.

[grizzled nexus]

hmm i guess i tested wrong

[shadow wigeon]

But I often find myself trying to block bullets with a devil's claw 😮

[fluid pendant]

I feel like I get a good team maybe 30% of the time in T5. In T4 we clear it about 80% now

[steel egret]

Its a gamble regardless of difficulty.

[fluid pendant]

The problem in T5 is always an unbalanced team. Not enough ranged clear or else vets that can’t hold a line and keep the horde off the vet. I end up running void staff and deflector so I can fill in the gaps, but it’s a struggle

[shadow wigeon]

If we could store loadouts, it would be easier to build a pub team at the load screen...

[fluid pendant]

Yeah that would be nice

[steel egret]

Or if we could see their setup

[shadow wigeon]

I dreamt too small.

[steel egret]

So I could see what sort of recon rifles psykers in my team have.

[shadow wigeon]

I have this but have literally never used it... im guessing i should give it a try?

The dmg roll was pretty sad.

[compact cargo]

likely, sadly bad damage and no limb splitter

[cyan notch]

its fine

[compact cargo]

Decimator won't trigger on horde combo

[shadow wigeon]

chain 2 on same target?

[cyan notch]

itll work you have good cleave good pen and brutal momentum

[compact cargo]

ye it's a caxe so only elites will take 2 hits

[shadow wigeon]

What is the significance of brutal momentum?

[idle bay]

Bad damage - irrelevant! USE IT! FEEL IT! Every Chop feels like a blessing!

[compact cargo]

Ignoring the terrible 2-4 cleave ln ace

[cyan notch]

infinite cleave

[shadow wigeon]

ohhhhh

[idle bay]

Pff you don't need Cleave stat at ALL if you have Brutal Momentum

[cyan notch]

u still do

[idle bay]

No

I have Mk v with garbage stats and like 27% in cleave , but with BM - and it destroys hordes

[cyan notch]

cleave affects damage distribution

its not totally worthless

[idle bay]

And all is left if to wait for blessing transfer crafting to put BM on god-roll axe

[shadow wigeon]

Alright just tried it, yeah that's pretty cool. The cleave is great and having good singel target damage... very nice

[raw breach]

Don't forget that with peril block feat you can spam push attack all day and still be able to block forever

[tulip drum]

oh wow that's a cool axe! Psyker definitely has some cool non force melee weapons. I love the Mk V duelling sword too. 15% dodge is so comfy. and Devil's Claw mk 4 has an attack pattern I like.

i'm thinking of putting away my deflector FS because of those weapons

deflector is cool and all but FS is only really good vs bosses

[shadow wigeon]

Oh no. I was just testing the swing on push looks good. Man. Too good.

[deft fiber]

I guess, i pew pew now

[rancid relic]

So I am a new player and I started with a Psyker. I remember in the training there was an attack that empowered my melee weapon or something but I don't get how or when it happens. Can someone explain?

[steel egret]

Its specific weapon.

[deft fiber]

By default it's side button on mouse to use alt attack. Check your controls.

[rancid relic]

Yeah that does nothing on the sword, aside from a weird animation

[deft fiber]

Check in the weapon decsription what it do.

It can be parry or something like this.

[rancid relic]

oh its parry

so in the training I had a different weapon? because it was still a sword

[orchid venture]

the one you could empower is called a Force Sword

[deft fiber]

Anyway, most of the alt attack just charge and then you need to do attack.

[rancid relic]

I see

[deft fiber]

Not sure if they give you FS in training.

[steel egret]

They do

[deft fiber]

Anyway, most of the alt attack is empower. Like there is an animation and then your next attack(or few) will have different properties.

[shadow wigeon]

Next hit, within a time limit (2-3 seconds? never paid attention)

[buoyant mantle]

among us

and yes, i paid for this joke

[cyan notch]

among us

[magic burrow]

we found the traitor

[viral inlet]

toilet seat hat
toilet seat hat

[sand bronze]

what's with the compulsory need to kill all mobs with a glowing head?

can't you just leave me to pop that head in peace?

[steel egret]

No need to BB everything.

[sand bronze]

But need to kill everything before you BB

[azure ice]

what better, duellist or blaze sword

[steel egret]

Blaze

[glass thistle]

finally, emperor listen to me

[steel egret]

339, I think he misheard.

[glass thistle]

this one is good enough, 20 preil 2hit delete crusher

dont need to be max, just need to cross that line

[steel egret]

Sure

[glass thistle]

so upgrade it and roll a manics damage, can one shot mutant too

[cyan notch]

say this 3 times really quick

[near wyvern]

Can't buy that skin cause it has too many words for it. Confuses my smoothbrain so I am unable to make a decision.

[steel egret]

What is the difference of Blaze force and swordblaze?

[long osprey]

Is there à resist against shotgunners?

That I could put on curios

[deft fiber]

No.

[near wyvern]

Blaze force? Do you have an image of a source for this?

[sand bronze]

that's fomo and you should sue fatshark

[long osprey]

Shotgunners are immune to suppression it seems

They just walk at you and wreck your butt

[near wyvern]

So are Dreg Stalkers

[bold flint]

ive been using the trauma staff

and i gotta say

it is the loudest staff in the game

[deft fiber]

My condolences.

[deft trench]

finally finished this, thought it'd keep going indefinitely but guess not 🤷‍♀️

[bold flint]

WHOO BOOM ... WHOO BOOM ... WHOO BOOM LIFE AND DECAY

[orchid nest]

[bold flint]

surely you get the gold one

[steel egret]

To match with what?

[bold flint]

the be a golden god

[orchid nest]

you would have to like get the new chest to match with it and then replace the clown pants with something else

[steel egret]

Imperial edition chest has gold bling bling I think

[orchid nest]

hmmm yeah

[twin pond]

new helm looks good with the heresy penance chest

[steel egret]

Pants.

[jagged vessel]

Hairless ?

[twin pond]

it lets you keep hairstyles, im hairless yea

[jagged vessel]

Can you try with hair just to see ? 😄

[steel egret]

So I can be balding with it

[spare flax]

i just want a wizard hat, or on of the astronomican stuff

[orchid nest]

I guess the pants from the subject 314 one on the first page may look ok with the chest from the new one and the gold mask but that's a lot of shit to buy I don't have

[jagged vessel]

Awesome o_O

[cyan notch]

sienna

[steel egret]

You can buy any blue pants from regular shop and they do the same.

[orchid nest]

oh damn let me look

[steel egret]

And when I say blue pants I mean black, blue, light blue which all are blue.

[orchid nest]

I completely forgot about these

[steel egret]

Ok

Thats a lot of gold drip

[shadow wigeon]

i had to do it

[orchid nest]

yeah it does work out good actually, thanks for taking the dive

[steel egret]

So why do zealots have that suit pants?

[shadow wigeon]

hah i actually did it an hour ago and then just saw you guys talking about it 😐

[orchid nest]

looking very tzeentch

haha nice

[steel egret]

Even the pants?

[shadow wigeon]

If these are from that previous set, yeah

No actually pain witch pants - because the boots match better

[steel egret]

Theyre not

Set ones are black with 3 strap

Well shoes

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah these ones match the gloves

closer, anyway

[steel egret]

And blue color matches better

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah the bone sands set was a bit lighter

I didn't own the head gear, but once I bought the flashy gold shirt, the next step was clear

10 days ago i wasn't going to buy any cosmetics.... got me

[jagged vessel]

I want to hear psyker voice with this helm

[steel egret]

Its just same altered as with beta helmet or anything

[shadow wigeon]

Oh do they actually change voice lines?

[jagged vessel]

Voice effect

Like the skull no ?

[orchid nest]

yeah I like the brocade jacket

[steel egret]

Same way as with others I would imagine

[jagged vessel]

Beta helm don't change psyker voice

[orchid nest]

or damask? idk

[steel egret]

It did on ogryn.

[jagged vessel]

Yes

[steel egret]

But they fixed that

[devout tinsel]

Crit Chance + Blazing Spirit really seems wasted on the FS. Barely crits anyway. Whats a good perk to replace it with?

[jagged vessel]

Skull helm change zealot voice (wonderfull)
Actually no one psyker helm change his voice (I don't try the news)

[steel egret]

Yeah we so far have had nothing that could.

[orchid nest]

I'd just go with another damage type for whatever helps you reach a breakpoint. like maniac if you can hit 1 shot with the special.

[steel egret]

I dont know if new ones do

But they should.

[jagged vessel]

Vet helm 700 aquilas
Psyker helm, 900

:)))

[steel egret]

Atleast the rebreather

[orchid nest]

does this thing hide beards?

[jagged vessel]

Nop

[orchid nest]

thank you

[jagged vessel]

😉

Little voice effect for this skull

[orchid nest]

Oh nice

[deft fiber]

Quell speed bruh

[jagged vessel]

Slow bowling

[deft fiber]

Guess i take those.

[jagged vessel]

Untill we have the craft my brother

[deft fiber]

Yeah, will keep it just for the sake of hoarding.

[jagged vessel]

Voidstrike supremacy

[near wyvern]

No bald and with a beard??? They got a +5% reduction in cosmetic bugs?

[jagged vessel]

bald phobia

[near wyvern]

Probably damage VS maniacs since you already have flak on it so you can make it a special/elite killer

Should dispatch mutants, maulers and Ragers with ease

[near wyvern]

Once you can modify blessings just inject transfer peril on it and you are good to go

[deft fiber]

Yeah, exactly my plan. But upgrade it before, but i need to farm mats. Uh.

[near wyvern]

It's the plasteel again, isn't it?

[tulip drum]

hmm i'm watching a a stream where the pskyer is casting BB over and over at 100% peril without quelling or going into struggle mode

i thought they got rid of the animation cancel thing or whatever that allowed you to do that?

[deft fiber]

Need to check but mostly yes i believe. Suprisingly i have a pretty equal shortage of both mats since i don't roll too much.

But plasteel is a cryptonite for sure.

• How we keep people entertained?
• Lets do a good game
• Nah, let's make a tons of rng and artificial deficit of mats.

[near wyvern]

You quell to 97%. With inner tranquility and warp battery you can do it at 98% with 5 or more warp stacks but usually I aim for 95 so that no accidents happen

[bold flint]

i cant do it

i cant keep using the trauma staff

[deft fiber]

Why you torture yourself in a first place?

[tired estuary]

its called trauma for a reason

[bold flint]

its like, kinda fun

[tired estuary]

I like the idea of it

[bold flint]

the damage loss over area is absolute dogshit

its so bad

[tulip drum]

that's the thing...that's what I do too...but this guy was hard locked at 100% just casting BB over and over without it ever coming down to eve 99%

[bold flint]

and its single target against specials is awful unless its carapace

[near wyvern]

Seems like exploiting a bug

[empty basin]

Trauma either needs to do more damage in the radius or generate less peril

[tired estuary]

yeah if its gonna be higher cost on rmb than other staves it should at least have better dmg, or less cost so its an alternate cc option to surge ig

[bold flint]

i can just cycle between quelling and charging

[empty basin]

If it did more damage in the radius it would feel amazing against hordes, a full charge creating a viscera cloud

[bold flint]

i can get to 100% peril

quell to 80%

and get off a fully charged blast

and i can keep doing that

but its so fucking loud

you ever heard the high peril sound every 4 seconds

thats life as a trauma staff user

[near wyvern]

But even then the damage is just not enough

[bold flint]

it takes 4 fully charged blasts with the increasing peril damage to kill a dog

four

[jagged vessel]

and vet 2 bullets

xD

[empty basin]

Should psyker be glass cannon? Or focus more supporting? Cause if any what they found for the potential subclass, it seems they want them as support

[jagged vessel]

Psykinetic suck, i can't wait another subclass to have a specific role

[bold flint]

if you just play force sword void staff youll have a perfectly fine time

[empty basin]

Dueling sword > force sword.

I'd love a good void staff, but shop ain't friendly

[bold flint]

whats so good about it

[empty basin]

Mobility

[orchid nest]

alright so I did the combo with the new cosmetics and this is what it turns out like

[empty basin]

I'm trying out the same top and headgear, but black pants for that set

The new axe is also really nice

[patent ledge]

there's new cosmetics?

[empty basin]

Yep

[orchid nest]

yeah the black pants aren't bad either, just tried it

[patent ledge]

mah wallet

[empty basin]

That headgear also doesn't remove hair, if your interested in trying out that

[patent ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoge-dust-emoji-turns-into-dust-emoji-turning-into-dust-gif-24630075

[empty basin]

$210 total so far for an unfinished game

[patent ledge]

did the leaked cosmetics came out or did they churn new ones?

[orchid nest]

I wasn't really paying attention to the other classes but I think all these psyker ones were in the leak

[empty basin]

It's some of the leaked ones, since they have it in the files.

Looks like as long as those miners do their job, we'll get an idea of what they're pushing before the server side of things lets us buy

[patent ledge]

true

tbh the only one i really liked from the unreleased cosmetics was the ogryn with the hood and plate armor

[orchid nest]

I didn't even think I would like this jacket from the new one tbh from the leak screenshots, all I could see were the clown pants

[untold meteor]

Help, I can only afford 1 from melk which do I choose

[summer prairie]

neither

[empty basin]

Yeah, id hold

[untold meteor]

it's a fresh 30 psyker

[orchid nest]

yeah I wouldn't buy either of them as well

[charred marten]

get a decent one from the other shop, and save for something good 🙂

[untold meteor]

i'm using 350 purps

[bold flint]

and id still buy neither

[untold meteor]

ok

[steel egret]

No buy

[digital narwhal]

I mostly use the Force Sword, but I wanna branch out to other weapons and I wanna know what melee weapons work well for you guys.

Would you recommend an Axe, a Chainsword, a Duelling Sword?

[dusky lantern]

Dueling sword is popular alt to FS

[tawdry shell]

this good?

[dusky lantern]

some people say axe is good too

the atrox

I personally use dagger cuz im a degen lmao

[hot zephyr]

The chainsword works great for me in some builds. I generally take it in combo with a surge or purgatus staff

[digital narwhal]

I mostly use Voidstrike and Purgatus, and I'm thinking of a weapon to go with Purgatus rn

[hot zephyr]

So then it just depends what you want. The dueling sword gives high mobility, the chainsword gives you lots of attack combo options, and the atrox axe gives you really nice pushes for crowd control

[shadow wigeon]

Just started using caxe with surge and I love it. Was using knife with purge for mobility.

[vagrant cedar]

best*

[tulip drum]

thought it was Antax mk V with a brutal whatever that allows infinite cleave that is recommended?

[polar fractal]

Brutal momentum

[near wyvern]

Duelling sword mk IV and II work well with +flak and +maniac damage

Yeah brutal momentum on mk V and mk VIII combat axes is what makes them really worth it

[digital narwhal]

I do quite like the axes; they're pretty satisfying

[lucid horizon]

finally a paid skin that doesn't suck for the psycher (I'm not going to buy it anyway)

[digital narwhal]

I'll see if I can hunt down a Brutal Momentum axe

[near wyvern]

GL.

[mighty pike]

Anyone know the best way to get the Going out with a Bang penance?

[light citrus]

The worst RNG

[maiden wolf]

I would keep it, blazing spirit is really rare, so its a neat keepsake if you like hoarding weapons

[maiden wolf]

Frickin zealots coming into our channel... /S

[orchid nest]

[scarlet rampart]

So I have a question about pick and mix. I've heard about 20 different variants for it and how it works, but I wanna hear it from the head popper mains themselves. Is it 5 different enemy type elites or just 5 elites in general?

[orchid nest]

any 5

[idle torrent]

Is there any known "cheese" for Malleus Monstronum? I cannot for the life of me get it still

[trail forge]

Ogryn + shield

Demon host

A team to work with

[scarlet rampart]

Get an ogryn woth a shield, aggro demon host, have your other teammates just watch a YouTube video about nurgle and GGEZ

[jagged vessel]

A team of friends

[magic burrow]

Ive seen Psykers tank demonhosts

[silent dagger]

Lmao

[daring edge]

hey so I am just questioning some stuff about the purgatus force staff, is the damage percentage meaningful at all to it? like mine has 9 percent damage but 73 percent burn and idk if thats good or bad

[trail forge]

So that's associate, guy that might be a heretic but you're not sure, deam guy and beloved

[grizzled nexus]

damage isnt very important on purg but it does matter

[fluid knot]

Here using the MKII that everyone seems to think is bugged because it rarely hits heads (it really doesnt fuckin need to)

[daring edge]

yeah like I know the burn is the main part but idk if I should replace it, it has really nice blessings with terrifying barrage and focused channeling

[topaz surge]

So do I buy the newr god roll Purgatus staff in the shop of the not as god roll but close trauma one in the shop

[topaz surge]

Yea Ive tanked a daemonhost plartny of timees

[grizzled nexus]

it aint great but id keep it for now until u get smth btr

[daring edge]

yeah, I have a trauma and a surge which are genuinely really good imo

but I just love the purgatus as a staff and idk if I should get another one with a higher damage percentage instead

[fluid knot]

You should get lasgun

Objectively fastest horde clear

[lilac mesa]

Sure. Get a lazgun and be a sorta psyker

[daring edge]

look I don't want the veterans neurotypical gun, I want my funny stick

[lilac mesa]

Might as well play a sharpshooter if that's the way you play and look at it

[daring edge]

I have a character for every class it's just psyker is the first I got to 30 because I love wizards

[fluid knot]

Sharpshooter has bad CC, shit dodges and no "get off me asshole" button, Gun Psyker is literally 100x more enjoyable a gameloop than Vet

[magic burrow]

do you need some corruption resistance, or is using a non FS melee weapon plus the peril blocking feat enough?

[digital narwhal]

I just did it by asking a matchmaking group if I could solo the Beast of Nurgle that spawned.
As long as you're the only one doing damage and keep it at a decent distance from the team, it'll stay on you.
From that point just Git Gud.

It's probably the most convenient way to do it if you don't have an Ogryn friend who you can guarantee is bringing a Shield, or a Psyker friend who's running Peril Block and a high Defence melee weapon.

[idle torrent]

I've tried every pub game to get people to help me with it, but nobody will cooperate sadly so I gotta do solo or find an ogryn to private queue with

[digital narwhal]

Don't do Private Queue unless you have 4.

Bots will 100% fuck it up.

But honestly, if you don't have a previously set-up team, just ask beforehand if the matchmade team is willing to let you solo boss spawns, and if not, then just leave and look for a team who will.

[fluid knot]

Bots dont even shoot at monstrosities lol

Like they literally ignore them

[topaz surge]

what no easiest way to do it is with an ogryn friend and have thenm, tank a daemonhost

they have lowest HP

[fluid knot]

What Dare said

[digital narwhal]

Wait really?
Everytime I've had bots, they shoot at the boss instead of reviving me.

[fluid knot]

Yeah someone posted a thing about it the other day about how they ignore boss-tier stuffs

Will see if it can find

[digital narwhal]

Oh that's the easiest way, yeah.
I'm just saying that if you don't have a previously set-up team, the most convenient way to do it is asking a matchmade team to let you solo a boss spawn.

[vast oasis]

get a shield ogryn friend to tank a demonhost. sit in a corner with him and BB. win.

[lilac mesa]

thats 100% the most effective way without bots of course

[daring edge]

WELP, I found a better purgatus staff! it has almost the same stats but 68 percent damage instead of 9

and it came with warp flurry so

[deft fiber]

gz

[tawdry shell]

how to machine gun with staff?

[half heath]

Damage stat on purgatus doesn't matter that much, burn and cloud radius do

[ebon jolt]

All of you people and your fancy staves... This is still my best purg staff after 120 hours of Psyker :/

[solemn zenith]

big thanks to these bois for getting my 90% brain burst on boss

[tawdry shell]

https://outplayed.tv/media/jW53OX

how do I do this

help psykers

[solemn zenith]

looks like he is spamming right click and then left

[sand bronze]

with a mouse?

[solemn zenith]

yeah thats what I mean lol

[sand bronze]

what kind of wierd mouse you have?

[solemn zenith]

I fixed it 😛

[copper raft]

i like how it's blurred at the end like it's nsfw

[tawdry shell]

its illegal that's what this is

yeah but its different

aaa

what is his exact inputs

its so fast

[fluid knot]

Looks like a macro

[vestal rose]

I'm pretty sure they'll break your legs if you tell someone how it's done

[summer prairie]

probably just qq macroed to a single button

[tawdry shell]

is it possible for a human to do this

wait no

will my wrist die if I do this

[frigid marten]

it's probally lag he try to spam void and some left click is chained in the middle.

[daring edge]

YESSSS

finally got flak armoured enemies and unarmored enemy damage on my purg

20% babeee

[jagged vessel]

Some people (and 1 Ogryn) doing Malleus Monstronum ? 😮

[orchid nest]

it's quell animation cancel if you're still wondering

works with left click spam too

[vale viper]

Anyone got a screenshot of the new Psyker Drip?

[meager eagle]

oh has the aquila shop refreshed today?

[vale viper]

yep

[orchid nest]

I did this combo one

[meager eagle]

ohhh shit we get a skull??

[orchid nest]

yeah theres 2 skull ones

[vale viper]

You have one of the set not a mix?

or just the page itself?

[orchid nest]

yeah hold on let me equip

[meager eagle]

ill grab one for ya real quick

[vale viper]

thanks Im at work and struggling to find anything.

[orchid nest]

oh yeah I can do the whole page too unless quil does first

[jovial frigate]

ah of course the money shop resets on payday

[meager eagle]

might be up to you i keep getting errors when logging in 😒

[vale viper]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-waiting-gif-19902178

[meager eagle]

okay that 900 aquila skull got me feelin things 🥴

[jovial frigate]

ah nice the grey skull is there

[vale viper]

OH. . . my god!

[meager eagle]

and that skin for the axe is pretty damn nice!

[vale viper]

The head to the set is exactly what Ive been looking for so i can display my wacky hair.

[meager eagle]

is that bionic eye a global cosmetic??

[orchid nest]

yeah everyone except ogryn

hair also shows with the skulls

[vale viper]

Ogryn got one last time.

[meager eagle]

FINALLY

every pysker cosmetic has made them bald i fuckin hate it

[vale viper]

Agreed

I have wacky hair to look like a megaman doctor

[meager eagle]

i really dont think the hoods should make them bald brah

[vale viper]

let me keep it.

[placid sorrel]

help me unsee, is this pipe thingy suppose to be on the head or on the strap?

[echo parrot]

Oh shit they finally refreshed, and its the one I wanted most

I am happy

Happy ghoul rabbit

[meager eagle]

oh fuck yes this looks good

[vale viper]

Thats pretty dope

[jovial frigate]

it does

[vale viper]

next we need a hood with the skull

[echo parrot]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/deathstranding/images/f/f8/Die-Hardman_trailer_introduction.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20190726000354

[jovial frigate]

but it will be the only thing u see on psykers for the next 2.5 weeks

[placid sorrel]

ah doesnt matter, have hair

[meager eagle]

THE MF FROM DEATH STRANDING

[vale viper]

Hood with skull please. Knock off Chaplain

still good though.

[meager eagle]

hair clips through the back 😐

[echo parrot]

Hood with mask?

[vale viper]

using the wrong hair Quil!

[jovial frigate]

enjoying the simplicity of the rebreather

[echo parrot]

That rebreather do be lookin good

[vale viper]

agreed thats gonna be my head of shoice

[echo parrot]

What did the other classes get?

[frail spire]

im getting conflicting answer on how the shred blessing works, do u only get the buff by hitting the same target or any target?

[vale viper]

Rebreather and the crippled leg.

[jovial frigate]

i only bought the helmet of the set because im not a stinky paypig

[echo parrot]

Leopard Print

[vale viper]

This is ogryn no one else posted the Zealot or Sharp page

[jagged vault]

green goblin hood

[vale viper]

Oh they all have the gang members theme.

[jovial frigate]

hm, maybe its time to rock the not-so-thick set with the new rebreather

wasnt a fan of the bandana

[echo parrot]

That zealot skin though

Madmax above, Fifth Element below.

[empty basin]

I need shirtless with those golden pants

[vale viper]

AWWW I WANT THE GOBBY HEAD FOR MY PSYKER!

[empty basin]

Still waiting

for the best head piece

[vale viper]

What is that from?

[jagged vault]

i want the one black hooded psyker set

[empty basin]

From the datamined sets

[jagged vault]

yea, there was a whole imgur album

[vale viper]

you have more of the datamined? Or a link?

nvm show me link please!

[empty basin]

https://imgur.io/a/dy6Db09

[jovial frigate]

just a metal forehead sticker

[echo parrot]

"Good job big guy, heres your gold star"

[frail spire]

im getting conflicting answer on how the shred blessing works, do u only get the buff by hitting the same target or any target?

[empty basin]

These sexy boys

[jagged vault]

hooded ogryn was top tier too

but yeah that robey psyker is

all the seals dangling are great

[lucid mortar]

New staff skin is pretty nice imo

[jovial frigate]

if that 3rd one drops with this helm the same week i guess im spending 15 dollars

[jagged vault]

need

[echo parrot]

If Nikola Tesla was a psyker.

[clear heath]

new staff skin? is that cash shop?

[vale viper]

im a huge fan of this jacket

[lucid mortar]

yeah

[clear heath]

damn

[orchid nest]

yeah I like that hooded one. need more accessories though

[grizzled nexus]

is this a psyker helm?

[vale viper]

This Ogryn has me feeling good things

[jovial frigate]

if its not i'm calling my local police department

[jagged vault]

yeah it should be, matches the red one we have already

[echo parrot]

My rabbit intuition is telling me that is a zealot helm

[azure tundra]

This gives me MGS vibes

[grizzled nexus]

well since its just the helm alone, its prob for multiple classes hopefully

[vale viper]

There is not way this helm is not a Zealot Helm

[vale viper]

agreed

[runic gate]

We aren't buying skins still right?

Until the game is fixed?

[vale viper]

OMFG

This is enough to make me change mains lol

[jagged vault]

theres the hooded one

[runic gate]

No skins till crafting

[grizzled nexus]

no skins till a skin i like 😄

[jagged vault]

boutta say, nah when those good ones drop, they drop

[vale viper]

I mean you bought the game already Fish. You lost.

[proud haven]

[runic gate]

Having a great time, but not buying any aquila bux until there's crafting

[fluid knot]

Heres to hoping that crafting mats dont find their way into the aquilla store

[meager eagle]

oh i doubt that would ever happen

[fluid knot]

Im not gonna say either or, seems its plausible, but there would be significant backlash

[hidden coral]

Hey, does anyone know what base rating of curios are? 80? I don't think I've seen above like, 78

[meager eagle]

i think at most they would be added to the ordo shop

[vale viper]

Im waiting for Damonhost cosmetic weapons.

[jagged vault]

same

[runic gate]

Current BIS skin.

[jagged vault]

give me green glowy eyes

[meager eagle]

hoping we can cosplay as a tech priest 🙏

[jagged vault]

that too

[meager eagle]

i want wires and arms sticking out of me

[hidden coral]

My Ogryn's already started. Got the robo eye, bonehead implant, and power maul

Luv me hadron

She cool, so be like her to be cool

[vale viper]

A techpriest/someone from mars abusing their tech is more likely to be a class than a skin

[jagged vault]

dont think anyone would complain about extra classes

[meager eagle]

the datamined psyker subclass is like "fortress" something right

[clear heath]

I'd prefer if they prioritize polishing the rest of the game first, but more classes is cool

[jagged vault]

my friend really wants a sister of battle in as a class

[meager eagle]

im hoping for that too but i think they'd be too overpowered for tertium no?

[jagged vault]

hey thats ok

🙂

[meager eagle]

you right

[hidden coral]

Ye I agree

That's why I'm petitioning for an emperor of mankind class

[meager eagle]

playable chaos god when

[jagged vault]

inb4 pvp mode

its just evolve

[clear heath]

I actually don't know much about Warhammer lore. What races would be likely for us to get as playable classes, aside from humans and ogryns?

[meager eagle]

all i want rn is more variety of primary weapons for pysker tbh

[meager eagle]

imo i think humans and ogryns is all we can get

most other races are wayyy too powerful

[jagged vault]

just want another force melee please

[fluid knot]

Iirc it is an actual gunpsyker class

[jagged vault]

2h sword 🙏

[meager eagle]

okay thats dope

[fluid knot]

Which i will move to in a fucking second

Right?

[hidden coral]

I mean, isn't your average Tau or Eldar somewhat comparable to a learned Psyker/veteran of the guard/giant ogryn/really angy priest?

[meager eagle]

a psy-grenade type thign would be pretty badass

[clear heath]

rat class when?

[hidden coral]

Speaking as someone who doesn't know lore

[fluid knot]

Special i think is menna be psychically launched throwing daggers

[meager eagle]

oh eldar pyschic abilities are leagues ahead of any human psyker

especially the ones on the mourningstar

[jagged vault]

witchblades

[hidden coral]

O, all Eldar are super psykers? Oof

[jagged vault]

[lucid mortar]

Combat axe skin is pretty nice

[clear heath]

How strong are the bosses we fight in lore anyways? Like demonhosts and plague ogryns

[meager eagle]

i also may be wrong but i think most xenos would be exterminated rather than held prisoner, let alone allowed to fight for the inquisition

[long wharf]

Do we have new paid cosmetics?

[hidden coral]

Daemonhosts afaik are pretty scary big deals. But by the time our classes get to 30 we also seem like pretty big deals

As people go

[meager eagle]

god of war vibes i love it

[hidden coral]

And yeah that axe is schweet, I'd consider it if I used axe and had remaining coins

[orchid nest]

yeah, store pages were linked

[hidden coral]

It's up in the air right now but

If they went the um, "open-minded" inquisitor route

I imagine they could justify a lot

[meager eagle]

true, im not against playable xenos at all i just feel it would be hard to implement

ork subclass for ogryn 😈

[orchid nest]

#psyker-class message psyker one, others can scroll down a little

[ornate hamlet]

Grendyl having a Jokaero on the Mourningstar

[jagged vault]

the power of WAAAAAAAAGHH

[hidden coral]

Ork feats where half of them are buffs you get after firing a gun

Because you're just so excited

About firing a gun

[wild crystal]

I'd actually like it if the other subclasses for the Ogryn spot are filled in by other Abhumans, like a ratling sniper the rejects keep talking about

[hidden coral]

Ooooo I like that actually, huge toughness regen while firing

[long wharf]

Thanks

[hidden coral]

Would give you a similar range tank thing to what Vet has haha

[long wharf]

I refuse to look like a clown, but those headwear, I might get

[fresh reef]

Ork things Dreg shooters are stupid

Dreg shooters proceed to run into melee range

Profit

[orchid nest]

clown one isn't too bad if you find some pants replacement

[hidden coral]

Gah, the gold patterning kills me lol

On the shirt, mind

The helm is glorious

I don't care what the description says

[runic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-noelthezone-flr-gif-26114022

Are skins just playing barbie

[lucid mortar]

Clown pants work pretty well with a previous mtx chest

[raven scarab]

is this a "good" staff?

[hidden coral]

Dressup is an important part of vidjagames!

Real hard to look unique at the moment, sadly

[meager eagle]

i dont think so at all

[runic gate]

Trauma

[vale viper]

my opinion is no unless you like trauma

[meager eagle]

both those perks are bad, and trauma force is

mid

[fluid knot]

I love when chaff put their gun away an pull out a knife when there is one ton of meat bearing down on him, like man, put that little cocktail stick away, whatchu gonna do?

[hidden coral]

Naw, you really want charge rate on Trauma imo

[fluid knot]

[hidden coral]

Slow charge on trauma is just

guh

[vale viper]

Barrage isnt bad with a Purg staff

but there is better.

[jagged vault]

pop heads with void

[orchid nest]

the other skull looks pretty good with the penance gear

[vale viper]

What is the talents people use for Voidstrike staff?

[hidden coral]

If possible I'd aim for one that either dumps warp resist, or dumps quell speed if you have a good autoquell melee

[hidden coral]

Peril drop on headshot on voidstrike is awesome

[fresh reef]

The amount of reused assets in the mtx cosmetics is disheartening

[meager eagle]

setup i go for with voidstrike

[hidden coral]

Allows you to maintain firing forever on hoard

Oh like, feats

[vale viper]

I assume column 1 is interchangeable based off preference? I like the top talent

[hidden coral]

Yeah that looks pretty close to what I use, I just swap out toughness on force kill

To toughness on warp charge

[meager eagle]

ye i switch pretty often

[hidden coral]

They're both good though

[vale viper]

Yeah

[jagged vault]

i like setting hordes on fire with the push

[hidden coral]

I do like how 2 makes you immortal during hordes

Feels very cool

[meager eagle]

i also swap between psykinetic's wrath and inner tranquility often

my voidstrike has the quell 2% peril perk so the 6% resistance doesnt feel as needed

[hidden coral]

Y'know, looking at the new cosmetics

Everyone really got clown pants this time around huh

Although that's not unusual for zealot lol

[orchid nest]

here is the other skull with penance gear

[jovial frigate]

mmmm clipping

[lucid mortar]

beefy

[hidden coral]

Noooiiiice, goes quite well!

Nice thing is a lot of the store helms go well with the heresy set

Which is nice since im not a huge fan of the heresy helm

[meager eagle]

oh yeah i use the first rebreather a lot

[hidden coral]

Same! Wish it made me less aggressively bald but

[meager eagle]

makes me look like adam smasher lmfao

[radiant slate]

Does this headwear remove your hair?

[hidden coral]

At least it gives good supervillain vibes

[orchid nest]

it doesn't actually I'm just bald

[radiant slate]

Cool I might get one

[jovial frigate]

i hate that the beta helms are short bus quality

[meager eagle]

gonna warn you that the skull has pretty horrible clipping with certain hairstyles

[vale viper]

My only gripe with Voidstrike is the lack of cc 😦

[radiant slate]

kk

Thx

[lunar pasture]

Does anyone know if the psyker's lightning staff can hit weak points? Want to know if it's worth rerolling that perk

[hot zephyr]

Pair with Axe for shoves, about all you can do

[hidden coral]

What's good about axe shoves? Sorry if I'm retreading ground but I've seen people mention that for psyker and been confused lol

[fluid knot]

Just a big hitbox

Not as big as forcesword push, but big

[vale viper]

no its literally just a cc staff your head pops target heads from the 10% chance

[fresh reef]

With peril block you effectively have infinite stamina, so there's no downside in spamming 200 damage push attacks

[hidden coral]

Ah that makes sense, turns axe into a cleave weapon

lol

[fluid knot]

Pushes with axe do damage?

[fresh reef]

Pretty much only mk5 though

[fluid knot]

Ive not seen that

[hidden coral]

Push attack I imagine they mean

[orchid nest]

push attacks

[fresh reef]

Mk2 and 7 are goofy and use the side of the axe

[fluid knot]

Oh the special ehh

[runic gate]

Mk5 da goat

[fluid knot]

MKII is ridiculous upfront damage tho

[orchid nest]

Not the special, just push attack

although the antax special is great for interrupting things especially crushers

[hidden coral]

Aw man, looks like the helmet in the new bundle has a rebreather that doesn't cut off your hair and has a cool collar. First instance of buyer's remorse for getting the old bald rebreather 😔

[fresh reef]

Is it the only one that deals the same heavy and light attack damage?

[fluid knot]

Not sure the damage numbers are even correct for it tbh with you mate

It'll one/two tap all the chaff in damnation an 2/4 tap most elites depending on buffs uptime etc

It rarely gets headstrikes though so people shit on it for that, even if the damage is crazy good

[jovial frigate]

which 1

[fluid knot]

Swhat i rolled on mine for reference

[ornate hamlet]

Cant believe the Imp edition psyker set still has clipping on the chest

[hidden coral]

Imo A, although I'd consider swapping the heresy pants for the malice pants

I think they'd mesh better

Even if it is sad to lose the pattern

[jovial frigate]

this pisses me off specifically because they said they fixed it but didnt fix it all the way

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah lmao

Anyway my vote’s #2

[jovial frigate]

like they couldve moved that piece just a couple more pixels outward

but didnt

maybe i'll just stick with being a tube goblin

[vale viper]

Whats everyones melee weapon of choice?

[meager eagle]

dueling sword tbh

force sword feels very clunky to me

[vale viper]

ive used Force sword for 80+ hours whats the benefit to Dueling sword?

[hidden coral]

Dueling sword is perfect fashion for my silly seer dude, love how he holds his off hand behind his back while swinging

Like an absolute dweeb

[meager eagle]

not sure on the specifics, it just feels better to me

much faster attacks that shred through hordes

[hidden coral]

Gameplay wise though, exceptional mobility

[vale viper]

Was gonna ask is there more cleave to the force swords none?

OR does it feel like Saltzspyre?

[hidden coral]

Good horde clear, although I tend to prefer the assassin dueling sword

It's not quite the awesomeness of Saltz' rapier

[meager eagle]

cant remember the specific %s but my dueling sword has a perfect 380 stat roll

[hidden coral]

That weapon being one of the best in that game

But it does play prettys imilar

Blender, headshot oriented

[candid lava]

Excuse me, sparky'eads - quick questun: does the surge staff crit at all?

[meager eagle]

yes it does

[vale viper]

All I remember is trying a random one the emperor gave to me thinking Oh i can be Victor but it didnt feel like it. That said are there multiple types of dueling swords? I never cared to look.

[candid lava]

Thank you!

[hidden coral]

Yep, three marks of dueling sword

Mk 5 is the one I use, with an emphasis on singletarget and mobility, although can cleave a lil

[vale viper]

Which is best or the one more people agree on?

[hidden coral]

Mk VI I believe is the other popular one with the Mk II falling behind, but I could be wrong

[vale viper]

@meager eagle which one do you use?

[hidden coral]

They're both more horde focused with slightly worse dodges (still better than most weaps though)

[meager eagle]

lemme get on and check

[hidden coral]

Also I cannot overstate this enough; you look like the fanciest loser swinging it

[vale viper]

[hidden coral]

Which is a huge plus if ur playing one of the dork personalities

[vale viper]

I am the Male German

So I am.

[hidden coral]

That's pretty dweeby! Also great for Seer, silly beans that they are

Savant it tends to feel a bit strange on haha

They're the more serious ones

[vale viper]

German is the Dweebiest

[hidden coral]

Oooo gimme

[vale viper]

How does that feel on Hordes Quil?

[meager eagle]

feels fuckin amazing

[vale viper]

any cleave at all or just so fast dont matter?

[hidden coral]

The 51 light has a MASSIVE multiplier on headshot

So it's bigger than it looks

[meager eagle]

it cleaves pretty nicely

[hidden coral]

Although yeah you tend to get countered by flak on those lights

[vale viper]

Ill have to try them all. Thanks for the insight Siblings.

[meager eagle]

not a problem cuz i main surge and just zap anything bigger than a poxwalker

[vale viper]

same Zap or bust.

[hidden coral]

Oooo that does make sense

And you're using the horde clear sword, which pairs well with surge

[paper wagon]

MkV has something dumb like +15% dodge distance. You're basically ice skating around.

[meager eagle]

im still struggling to get a good roll surge staff tho :/

[hidden coral]

I should consider that

[digital narwhal]

Wtf, I just saw a TikTok saying Psyker is OP and needs a nerf.
People are making Darktide TikToks now?

[meager eagle]

this is the best ive got currently

[meager eagle]

hell no pysker does NOT need a nerf lmfao

weakest class in the game

[digital narwhal]

I KNOW LMAO

They say it's OP because of "one shotting specialists for no ammo cost"

[meager eagle]

one shotting specialists on heresy below they mean*

[vale viper]

Weakest strongest class in the game.

[digital narwhal]

Malice and Below tbh

[paper wagon]

Even with level 30 talent veterans kill specialists before I can finish charging.

[vale viper]

Anything t4 + without a psyker is noticable. Like I said Weakest Strongest class

[round shuttle]

Psyker feels op on like diff 1 and 2, balanced on diff 3, a little weak on 4, and weak on 5

[hidden coral]

Def not bad! Idk if crits do much for surge staff

[meager eagle]

vet and zealot killing crusher ogryns before my BB is even halfway charged (it would have done 1/5 of the crushers health)

[digital narwhal]

Psyker still feels underwhelming on Diff 3

Everyone still does their job better

[supple skiff]

if they're on tiktok talking dartktide balancing that alone should preclude them from the conversation on account of the room temp iq

[meager eagle]

below heresy i just put on voidstrike and clear hordes

[hidden coral]

Tbh I tend not to find Psyker too bad on damnation. With void I can do good mixed horde clear. Melee game's a little weaker but, eh

[meager eagle]

i enjoy being a cc bot on damnation

[digital narwhal]

I just hope Psykinetic gets the buff it needs before they release Protectorate in 2025

[hidden coral]

I could see it being weakest meta-wise but, I tend to disagree with most beans' suggestions for buffs

[meager eagle]

i did get another one that is nice but it has a glaring issue

[digital narwhal]

OOF

[meager eagle]

15% bruh.

[hidden coral]

Perfect for the self-destruct penance lmao

[digital narwhal]

Such a good roll until you see that 15% Warp Resist

[meager eagle]

80% damage 80% crit 78% quell but fucking hell

15%

[supple skiff]

psyker is fine with high level play, but the skill floor is such that a lot of classes feel better out of the gate

[digital narwhal]

I guess it's useful-ish if you use the higher damage on high Peril, and run a non-force melee to passive quell?

[hidden coral]

Handing this to a Psyker could prob get you arrested for attempted murder

[supple skiff]

I dont thinkk zealot of ogryn are very much far ahead

[inland sand]

Zealot is very good

[supple skiff]

vet is overtuned af end of story tho

[inland sand]

high ceiling on it though

[hidden coral]

Basically where I'm at

[inland sand]

Veteran has a fun issue where Damnation seems designed for them

[hidden coral]

I used to think Ogryn was weakest, but I got some of their meta gear

And yeah they can def do work on damnation

[meager eagle]

also what stat do you guys prioritize with qurios?

[quick cypress]

Hey guys, I'm kinda on the fence here, the blessings on the shop one look really nice, plus I feel like having defense instead of Cleave damage should be good for the role of the melee weapon, but the damage stats is a bit low. What do you think ?

[inland sand]

with the most threatening mobs all having guns and Vets getting tons of toughness, supression resistance etc

[hidden coral]

For main stat, def toughness

[inland sand]

Toughness primarily

[hidden coral]

You can make a case for health with zealot and ogryn, but imo the ratio is too close for health to be attractive on psyker

[supple skiff]

honestly I think the discussion around the classes and their comparative value will get a lot more meaningful once crafting is out and we can tailor our gear to do what we want it to do

like I got a slaughterer deflector fs and its a fucking game changer

[hidden coral]

That too. It took getting a good roll for me to appreciate ogryn

[meager eagle]

yeah same, ive got a damn near gold-roll voidstrike but it has fucking run-n-gun as the 2nd perk 😐

[digital narwhal]

Health; Toughness is kinda low, and so it gets shred through anyway, and I'd rather have extra health to pad chip damage from melee and when my Toughness gets annihilated by shooters.

[digital narwhal]

Just reroll the Blessing 4head

[supple skiff]

vet is arguably the least gear dependent

you just get the weapon type you want with ok stats and your gtg

[meager eagle]

ive been prioritizing health as well

it feels pretty nice since my toughness is always refilling

i think pysker has some of the best toughness regen feats tbh

[hidden coral]

Mind you, higher toughness means you refill toughness faster, since recovery is percentage based

The only thing that isn't % based around toughness

Is taking toughness damage

Also we tend more to be at range, and toughness works gud for countering range damage

But that's just my case, if health works for you go for it

[digital narwhal]

They only have Toughness regen feats, no Toughness mitigation like Zealot and Veteran, so they're gonna have more chances for good Toughness regen feats.
I know that Toughness mitigation is only really good on Veteran, but still; better window for opportunity for good Toughness regen when it's all you got.

But yeah, they're nice.

[vale viper]

SAME

[fringe garden]

Man, I didn't realize how very good the Atrox is until I got a well rolled one. It is fantastic af

[supple skiff]

why milk why https://prnt.sc/rBICLd7eIuMT

so close to greatness

[covert valve]

Why would higher toughness refill faster if its a %¿

[fringe garden]

Faster relative to the damage enemies deal

[ornate hamlet]

Higher toughness % = more toughness refilled if regen is based on a %

Not necessarily faster, just more efficient

[round shuttle]

You get more toughness back per second. Still takes the same amount of time to go from 0 to full though

[vale viper]

atrox?

[supple skiff]

well fuck https://prnt.sc/_JaRtK8O4KaG

[fringe garden]

The mk 5 axe

[supple skiff]

rolled the dice and came up 7

[vale viper]

ah

[fringe garden]

I meant antax

[dusky lantern]

You know

Im trying out this gun psyker build and thinking oh man this gonna be fun

I load into a damnation and of course our team doesn't have horde clear so we wipe

and im thinking to myself

man, if only I had my purge staff instead of this dumb accatran laser gun

😦

[vale viper]

i wasnt correcting you lol Like I said I used the force sword for 80+ hours I was barely paying attention.

[river willow]

Sounds like the woes of playing with randoms more, gotta make sure you can horde clear since you have no idea if the others can

[ornate hamlet]

That’s why I like fire staff.

[mortal pendant]

you're actively griefing the team if you're playing gun psyker

[fringe garden]

I'm convinced the only reason psyker can equip guns is to increase the RNG of getting what we want

[tulip drum]

with brutal momentum? it's awesome lol

[dusky lantern]

I was trying out the build pinned in this channel lmaooo

[mortal pendant]

pinned by cms and devs who can barely clear malice?

[supple skiff]

recon las and kinetic flayer sound good on paper but its not great in practice

[hidden coral]

Oop soz for later reply! Basically, since all toughness recovery (recovery from kills, coherency, and feats) is percentage based

It'll give more faster the higher your toughness max

This also means you'll get back up to max toughness quicker (and lose less of your total toughness bar) the higher your toughness is, which also makes wading into melee less scary

So for example if I had 100 max toughness and recovered 10% per force kill, I'd get 10 toughness back. But if my max was 166 (which iirc is the max for a psyker possible), you'd recover 16-17 toughness per kill

Idk if they round in this game or have hidden decimals like vermintide 2 did lol

[ebon jolt]

These scabs really seem to like me:

[true lake]

Scab gaming

[sturdy meadow]

what perk should I reroll Dockets into?

snipers? combat ability regen?

[true lake]

Anything that helps your build out most really

[hidden coral]

Health/toughness+ I'd prob go for

[sturdy meadow]

hm. toughness regen or HP+

[hidden coral]

Although also I don't really optimise curios until I get max roll on the blessing

So 17% toughness

[true lake]

HP is better overall

[hidden coral]

or 21% hp

[sturdy meadow]

honestly i was looking for 20% hp but the default 20% gunner resist was too good to pass up

[true lake]

Gunner resist isn't too bad

[sturdy meadow]

2-3 HP is a small price to pay when you take less damage from gunners

[true lake]

But would replace the dockets with an HP buff

[sturdy meadow]

sounds reasonable

[hidden coral]

Or toughness, ye

[true lake]

Also I'm personally not a big fan of pox hound damage resist

[hidden coral]

Idk about toughness regen, it might be good on a lynchpin oggy if it's multiplicative with that feat

[true lake]

As a psyker I never had issues with them due to how quick I could push block them or dodge

[sturdy meadow]

well i can't really reroll both perks, hadron just gave me pox hound

[hidden coral]

Can only replace one haha

[true lake]

Well ye

[vagrant cedar]

gunners barely do anything

it doesn't protect from shooters

[true lake]

They do a lot when your toughness breaks

[hidden coral]

Eh, gunners def make contact with you more than most

so imo it's prob the best resist perk

And there's only a few solid perks imo

[sturdy meadow]

this is my best curio so far 😛 so maybe i'll go for toughness regen or HP+

but maybe save my diamantine first for weapons.

still running blue weapons lol

[vagrant cedar]

toughness/stamina/block

[fringe garden]

Toughness Regen is just the amount of time before it starts filling after a pause

[vagrant cedar]

and you just 🤞 that those perks work

[fringe garden]

Not how quickly it actually regenerates

Just fyi

[vagrant cedar]

then the devs would say Toughness regen cooldown