#psyker-class

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simple junco
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You tellin me a cat wore these pajamas

magic burrow
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youre saying a ginger bred this man?

simple junco
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B-but bees don't even HAVE knees

hot field
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I hate that one suicide penances

magic burrow
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devs unironically telling psykers to go kill themselves

cyan notch
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man with lightning

hot field
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Would BB 6 stack help with pick n mix

cyan notch
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for peril resist yea

fringe garden
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I wish 3/4ths of my emperor's gifts weren't las pistols.

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It makes me sad

fresh reef
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that was fucking experience

cyan notch
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40mins

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bruh

fresh reef
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nearly 2000 dead heretics

ornate hamlet
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Anyone wearing the pajamas at level 30 is scary

fresh reef
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I wore em for a bit but I prefer the gloves now

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black leather just looks so right when I smite the bomber that's been terrorizing the data interrogator for minutes on end

fast swan
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best map/way to get the kill boss with brainburst penance?

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in private lobby of course

long wharf
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get a shield ogryn to tank a demonhost for you

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ezpz

fast swan
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friend is on vacation, dont wanna bother randos

fresh reef
fast swan
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ty

cyan notch
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u kinda have to bother randos

long wharf
fresh reef
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there's a spot where you can easily train a Beast around some stairs

long wharf
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you're going to be bothering any pug you play with

fast swan
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was gonna do it in a private amtch

long wharf
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good luke, bots won't stop shooting the boss

cyan notch
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you need 2 people

fast swan
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i can let the bots die mayhaps

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also whats the good map for the knock enemies off ledge penance?

long wharf
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chasm logistratum

fast swan
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ty

cyan notch
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if you do private match you still need to have one other person to start it and then youd have to kill bots anyway

fast swan
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frick

cyan notch
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even if you could do solo with bosses youd have to know the boss spawns and kill the bots before the boss spawns and then solo the boss

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and bb does no damage on heresy so youll be there for awhile and a horde/specials are likely to show up and then youll have to handle those solo

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you kinda need people to protect you while you tickle away at the boss

fast swan
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man

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why does this penance exist and why does brain burst suck so bad

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legit needs a 50% damage boost

haughty schooner
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did they make surge staff not always stun hounds anymore?

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or mutants

fast swan
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doesnt even kill half the specials with a single BB

simple junco
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That's actually hilarious if true

glacial abyss
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Nah surge still stuns

haughty schooner
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im usin 2-3 lightning blasts before sometimes stunning

fast swan
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also when are they buffn trauma staff? thing sucks dick compared to every other weapon in the game

glacial abyss
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just charge don’t tap

haughty schooner
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i thought charge duration is only dmg

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not stun

glacial abyss
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most of u guys try to do some tapping technique charge for the stun on mutants

frozen hearth
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swear to god i hate playing as psyker i feel so helpless 100% of the time

simple junco
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They need to give purg some more range, trauma more peril resist, and make void look cooler

glacial abyss
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Longer zap = stun

magic burrow
haughty schooner
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but like its not stunning at all

glacial abyss
simple junco
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That's vet

haughty schooner
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had hounds ontop of people, mid leap, hit then with a surge and they dont get interrupted at all

glacial abyss
cyan notch
frozen hearth
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thats cap. so much cap

haughty schooner
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so infuriating

glacial abyss
haughty schooner
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the dogs werent even moving, they were ontop of someone and i couldnt get them off

glacial abyss
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if u think psyker is weak u off the goop

fast swan
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force sword doesnt feel that good, really hoping we get another force weapon soon that has some good cleave

frozen hearth
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yeah cuz i like to scream at the top of my lungs and travel across the map to stab a sniper in the head

fast swan
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force greatsword would be so nice

cyan notch
haughty schooner
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so its just buggy or something then

frozen hearth
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if i can't solo a beast of nurgle then whats the point

magic burrow
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I prefer the dueling sword. I started using the knife for a bit and that one's pretty nice too

glacial abyss
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all people who think psyker is weak u just bad it’s the truth

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I’m sorry guys! But it’s true

magic burrow
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the force sword is kinda meh

frozen hearth
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yeah im just bad

fresh reef
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fazhun

haughty schooner
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psyker prob weakest next to preacher?

cyan notch
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i like fs

frozen hearth
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when will i get the flamer staff

cyan notch
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how is zealot weak

haughty schooner
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well vet is tops, id put ogryn 2nd, preacher 3rd psyker 4th

magic burrow
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flame staff unlocks last

fresh reef
west dawn
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Preacher weakest atm

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psyker can atleast support

fresh reef
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save for ogryn maybe, that hitbox hurts

frozen hearth
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all i know how to do is knife preacher and eat hot chip

glacial abyss
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psyker is carry god

cyan notch
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why the hell is ogryn 2nd

glacial abyss
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how is ogryn 2nd

west dawn
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Ogryn god

frozen hearth
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this dude hasn't played 4 ogryn

haughty schooner
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ogryn can circumvent so many things and great support

west dawn
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can do everything

haughty schooner
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they are amazing

west dawn
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unkillable

frozen hearth
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or 4 preacher

glacial abyss
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u guys off the goop psyker can do everything

west dawn
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bruh

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try damnation

glacial abyss
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psyker requires incomparable mind

west dawn
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brain burst

haughty schooner
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psyker can do anything on 1-3 difficulty maybe

cyan notch
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have u not seen a zealot with flamer kill literally everything in the game

frozen hearth
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aight bet lets play 4 psyker against a monstrosity ill wait

haughty schooner
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4-5 psyker falls off pretty hard

glacial abyss
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you are dumb for trying brain burst on damnation in the first place

west dawn
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psyker is god up to 3

glacial abyss
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psyker god on all tiers

real fox
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hello, I'm still looking for 1 or 2 players to help me get a penance, (kill 3 elites with a suicide explosion), there would just be tanking and gathering 3 ragers for example (we are already 2) thank you in advance ...

glacial abyss
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u guys just not real psykers

west dawn
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then becomes walking ligthning rod

frozen hearth
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no im smol brain zealot

glacial abyss
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pro psyker players run damnation easy

frozen hearth
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smoller brain than ogryn without bone implant

glacial abyss
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relying on brain burst is your first mistake that’s how I knew u ass at psyker

magic burrow
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its hard getting a group in damnation

cyan notch
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depends on your region

frozen hearth
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me: just ends up using melee 90% of the time

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me: okay

west dawn
fringe garden
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Let's not devolve into vet chat. Calm down.

fast swan
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if only brain burst just instakilled all human sized enemies

glacial abyss
frozen hearth
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you're right pyskers probably makes the best gyros

magic burrow
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this isnt vet chat. If this was vet chat we'd be discussing anything except darktide

glacial abyss
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Vet chat is zzzz

heavy wigeon
glacial abyss
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psyker chat requires an incomparable mind to maintain your sanity

frozen hearth
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psykers make the best burritos.
preachers make the best mac and cheese
ogryns make the best steak
vets make the best tacos

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taco tuesdays on friday, says my beloved

west dawn
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who would win, an ogryn or a whole 10 man buffet?

glacial abyss
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so many fake psykers in this chat though

frozen hearth
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a preacher with a knife would win

magic burrow
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who would grill the best hamburger, though. Psyker or Zealot?

frozen hearth
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oooh

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that

west dawn
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Praised be the emperor

frozen hearth
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thats a good question

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zealot because they get their flamer earlier?

magic burrow
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psyker grilled hamburgers would be all blue and weird

frozen hearth
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psyker flames probably make it taste like smoked blueberries

glacial abyss
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what the fuck!!!!! Am I reading!

magic burrow
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and they would make you remember that time back in high school when you said something weird and everyone laughed at you

west dawn
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Zealot would overdo it

boreal cave
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id take the zealot grilled one. i imagine the warp grill might end up with me being eaten by the burger

frozen hearth
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psyker the type of student to mix choccy milk with they mashed potatoes

west dawn
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class has no chill

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always at 120% output

glacial abyss
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The zealot rush at 1 poxwalker combo

west dawn
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he would grill the heresy out of it

supple mulch
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what ranged weapon should i be using

glacial abyss
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seen it happen too many times

frozen hearth
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zealots would be the type to stab their paper tray and then burn it to see how it burns

magic burrow
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the meat has been righteously cleansed of sin and heresy and also it now tasted like shoe leather

glacial abyss
glacial abyss
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if u are a contrarian pick trauma staff

frozen hearth
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i'm mad that surge can't be held fired

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flamerpilled tbh

glacial abyss
simple junco
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Why can't purg send a fireball

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Like diet void

glacial abyss
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I love surge staff

supple mulch
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so not the lasgun that google is telling me to use

glacial abyss
magic burrow
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purge weakness is you dont get any range except brainburst

frozen hearth
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i can only zap hordes in bursts and it feels weirrrrddd

glacial abyss
magic burrow
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void weakness is that it gives you a superiority complex

glacial abyss
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I have a surge superiority complex

frozen hearth
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anyways bb the crusher

magic burrow
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surge weakness is that you basically become a tool for everyone else to enjoy the game

glacial abyss
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Yes

simple junco
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Purg weakness is that you do a job that can already be done, just faster

glacial abyss
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surge is the tool for everyone else until you do the smart thing that for some reason nobody else tries

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aka crit surge staff

frozen hearth
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too often i find myself not around teammates with a surge staff

glacial abyss
frozen hearth
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what rolls should i look for in surge

glacial abyss
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I like using crits

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I like crit chance a lot anything with that

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for surge

frozen hearth
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best one i can get atm

glacial abyss
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it makes the staff more fun to use more damage

frozen hearth
cyan notch
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bruh

glacial abyss
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shit! u low level

frozen hearth
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EVERYTHING IS SO HARD A LOW LEVEL PSYKER

glacial abyss
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could be worse though just use that for a bit to get used to it

frozen hearth
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I feel like im just a support

glacial abyss
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or u could run voidstrike or purgatus

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yeah until u a high level then u carry the entire team

magic burrow
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just stick to tier two maps when youre leveling as a psyker. Use some XP curios to speed things up a bit

frozen hearth
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me when i get matched with 2 other psykers pepeTired

glacial abyss
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psyker noobs tell me all about running damnation and they aren’t even level 30 so all u gotta do is trust me. Don’t do malice till u 30 unless u think you are like the god of all gods

frozen hearth
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oh

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i'm not supposed to do malice

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thats just depressing

magic burrow
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you can do malice. You'll just be on BB duty for a lot of time

grizzled nexus
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u just gotta play safer

glacial abyss
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nah because psyker is good with staff and end game perks and also it’s dependent on goons till u get pro at it

long wharf
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you can't play a psyker like a zealot

glacial abyss
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basically psyker doesn’t have the safety nets like the other classes do

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it doesn’t hold u like a little fetus

frozen hearth
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here i thought my safety net is melee but then then

glacial abyss
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but it is the most rewarding

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like u can literally explode yourself as a psyker

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isn’t that cool

ornate hamlet
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I wish I could say Psyker has been the most rewarding for me

frozen hearth
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cries in sienna

glacial abyss
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u can literally die from your own gameplay like whenever u want

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that’s the psyker experience

karmic quail
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THE EMPEROR HAS BLESSED ME

ornate hamlet
glacial abyss
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I love psyker

frozen hearth
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i mained kerillian if that says anything, but ironically preacher in this game.

glacial abyss
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Elf

half iron
glacial abyss
ornate hamlet
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Space wizards >>>

glacial abyss
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sorry this is supervillain hour

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all supervillains please wake up

frozen hearth
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if i wanted to be a space wizard i'd throw myself out the airlock because i have to choose between warframe and destiny

glacial abyss
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league of supervillains I’m calling the league of supervillains who play psyker

frozen hearth
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or you know what i'd just play wizard101

azure ice
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Psyker good tier?

long wharf
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whu huh?

glacial abyss
half iron
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saying gg after each victory < saying “hee hee hee ha! grr!” after each victory

azure ice
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Am i crazy if i say psyker top 2

glacial abyss
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just don’t listen to level 7 psykers trying to say stuff!

ornate hamlet
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Cast some spells for me space wizard

stuck basalt
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KEKW_ogryn explode head after victory

glacial abyss
long wharf
frozen hearth
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Infatuous Crippidoculous!

glacial abyss
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just hardest one to pull off and it can be boring carrying every idiot out of heresy

long wharf
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Biggus Dickus!

half iron
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gotta say, psyker is in the top 4 classes rn bro

frozen hearth
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spell that makes you give mad shloppy with pskyer powers

azure ice
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Lmao top 4

glacial abyss
magic burrow
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people who say psykers can't melee should watch some high tier psykers stream on twitch

glacial abyss
azure ice
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Who in 5th place

half iron
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ratling snipers. they have no skills

long wharf
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psyker is definitely one of the class of all time, hands down.

half iron
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no feats

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no weapons

azure ice
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Psyker is tanky

half iron
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bad class

frozen hearth
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Psykers are a class.

magic burrow
glacial abyss
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every time I hear some vet main walk in I can tell because they say gibberish and think psyker just weak and can’t do 4-5

azure ice
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Im part of worst than average

glacial abyss
frozen hearth
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Please fartshart let me have the flamer staff

magic burrow
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ofcourse!

glacial abyss
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I can’t tell u how annoying it is to play with other psykers since 90% ass

ornate hamlet
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I hate playing with other psykers

azure ice
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Im ASS

glacial abyss
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yeah mfs love using brain burst on poxwalkers

ornate hamlet
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If it was just me as the only psyker psyker would be known as god tier class

frozen hearth
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i am also ass

ornate hamlet
frozen hearth
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2 bbs on a crusher then i do the griddy

glacial abyss
azure ice
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All ass psyker players pls rise up

half iron
frozen hearth
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psykerpilled: press right click on bb 24/7

magic burrow
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I forget who it was, but I watched a psyker and an ogryn duo a damnation map, and that was kind of an aha moment

glacial abyss
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like bro I will go and melee a poxwalker and then they get a blue glow. WHAT THE FUCK! why blow up the fucking rotting corpse it’s a zombie he smells bad I’m working on killing it and then the schizoid behind me wants to blow him up there’s like 30 of them

azure ice
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Burst pox

glacial abyss
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literally psyker is god tier for damnation

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buys your entire team time the entire time

magic burrow
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whats wrong with brainbursting pox walkers

half iron
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i must brainburst the common enemies within melee range of the zealot. i must!

magic burrow
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its free warp charges

glacial abyss
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they smell horrid and there’s 30 of them

long wharf
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it's safer to let the teammate push the burster away

glacial abyss
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I literally never use brain burst and I have a constant 4x warp charge

frozen hearth
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how is this

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how do i learn this magic

magic burrow
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oh, hang on, you mean the explodey guys

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ok

glacial abyss
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no I mean like pox walkers like the maggot goons not pox bursters

half iron
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the fires of my beloved’s passion keeps my warp charges up

magic burrow
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pox walkers =/ pox burster

glacial abyss
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I literally got the warp battery penance without trying

long wharf
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yeah, stop saying "poxwalker" and just say "horde"

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I keep thinking you're talking about poxburster

glacial abyss
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they’re called pox walkers!!!!

long wharf
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but it doesn't matter, they're the horde

glacial abyss
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think of like Rick from the walking dead

half iron
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“just push and dodge” mfs when the teammate does the funny

magic burrow
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more like a pox crawler ayyy lmao gottem

glacial abyss
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pox burster

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simple!!!!!

half iron
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that’s just a fat walker

glacial abyss
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time for me to rest now….

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Villain hour… has come to an end

frozen hearth
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my true calling as a psyker is to make the villain i groomed groom his son into me electrocuting him and then get tossed down a pit

left arch
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new to 40k and new to the game... should i always have the force staff and sword?

glacial abyss
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u won’t have any good gear at the start

left arch
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im only lvl 4

glacial abyss
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Psyker all about the grind

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exactly

real fox
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hello, I'm still looking for 1 or 2 players to help me get a penance, (kill 3 elites with a suicide explosion), there would just be tanking and gathering 3 ragers for example (we are already 2) thank you in advance ...

glacial abyss
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Hit level 30

left arch
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ill grind it out toi 30 with a staff and sword

fresh reef
left arch
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ill check back in with the desired gear needed

rocky cedar
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Yo for Warp Absorption, what counts as a "warp attack"?

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All staffs?

fresh reef
rocky cedar
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Purgatus dot?

fresh reef
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Brain Burst, Force Sword Special, all staff attacks

simple junco
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DOT counts as soulblaze, not warp

rocky cedar
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Ok makes sense, was thinking that'd be broken otherwise

fresh reef
rocky cedar
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What toughness feat do people usually run for surge?

simple junco
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If you run KB with purg, def 3 is worth

fresh reef
simple junco
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AB, absolutely 30% on WC gain

rocky cedar
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Thanks for the answers

azure ice
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How ass/good psyker

fresh reef
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Surge - Quietude
Purg - Essence Harvest
Voidstrike - Warp Absorption
Trauma - Warp Absorption

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any disagreers?

azure ice
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Ne

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Me

fresh reef
cyan notch
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i use quietitude for everything

azure ice
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I plan to bait team kekw

floral solstice
fresh reef
rocky cedar
fresh reef
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drip or drown?

half plover
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drip

cyan notch
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i think warp absorption is pretty lame unless youre somehow solo fighting a horde while being shot by gunners

frozen hearth
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unlimited powaaaaa for the psyker

unkempt juniper
fresh reef
floral solstice
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What feats 5 and 6 do you guys run with surge

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Flayer?

unkempt juniper
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i don't run surge or purge because i can aim

digital narwhal
fresh reef
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mmmmmmmm bald

fresh reef
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surge only requires you to have a functioning mouse

unkempt juniper
fresh reef
cyan notch
rocky cedar
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What are peoples' favourite duelling sword variant? I'm enjoying the MK IV currently

honest frost
acoustic trench
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Any tips for getting pick and mix guys?

unkempt juniper
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mk5 has the poke-strikedown-poke combo for ragers, very useful, and higher dmg but slower heavy attacks that can cleave a target or two

simple junco
cyan notch
unkempt juniper
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mk4, on the other hand, has the longer range and faster but lower dmg poke heavies and it says 'the emperor protects' on the blade which is lit af

magic burrow
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chainsword is good for assassination missions

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the special destroys the final boss

frozen hearth
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whats a good horde melee for the psyker

azure ice
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Duelist

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Blaze sword is 🤣

magic burrow
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duelist sword or the knife

frozen hearth
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well i hope its atleast good for assassination

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the blaze sword i mean

floral solstice
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devil mk4 sword is decent for hordes too

unkempt juniper
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horde sword on psyker? catachan are all good for hordes

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and the parry is great for ragers

bleak sonnet
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mk5 combat axe

unkempt juniper
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parry is very underrated

magic burrow
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ah right the axe is insane for hordes

bleak sonnet
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catachan only if u are a click 5 times to kill 1 mob enjoyer

unkempt juniper
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isn;t the axe only good with brutal momentum?

azure ice
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Why parry as psyker when u can increase peril on block

fresh reef
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the 3 'fits I'm most in love with atm

floral solstice
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who spams light on catachan lol

unkempt juniper
bleak sonnet
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big drown

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no drip

weary wasp
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People tend to talk shit about force sword clearing capabilities when they don't even bother to use anything but light attack spam

bleak sonnet
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fork sword sucks at clearing

azure ice
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Force sword no bueno

weary wasp
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Heresy

fresh reef
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force sword is just BB 2 and it can block bullets

weary wasp
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More for me then whatthefuck_heresy

azure ice
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I stopped caring about blocking bullets, go for the kill instead

unkempt juniper
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deflector should be on all force swords, it really shouldn't be a blessing

azure ice
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FR

weary wasp
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Light > heavy > push, repeat
Channel your inner mordhau player with sync dodges while at it, watch heads soar

fresh reef
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alternatively, use knife or dueling sword and just dodge out of the horde's range lul

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proceed to murk horde with space magic

honest frost
weary wasp
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FS got infinite dodge and best push in game after shield tho

flint turtle
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I'm gonna rip my hair out, out with a bang is so annoying

magic burrow
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reject armor, return to shirt

fresh reef
magic burrow
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indecency is a sin

weary wasp
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Force abbs

alpine portal
alpine portal
honest frost
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I would’ve get it if not the length of the upper piece

fresh reef
frozen hearth
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i want my psyker to be buff, handsome, oiled up and shirtless

honest frost
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But it seems that Masozi or someone else stole the lower part

fresh reef
honest frost
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Yea, they could at least make it thigh length like the Armageddon coat on the veteran

magic burrow
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what do you do with the points you get from penances

fresh reef
honest frost
fresh reef
flint turtle
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Lmao

alpine portal
alpine portal
frozen hearth
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would the psyker that says beloved all the time have a tramp stamp of the emperor

fresh reef
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likely

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Beloved = Emperor

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||reminder that I use trauma staff||

frozen hearth
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also what lvl 10 perk do i take

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im running surge atm so im torn betwen tranquility and wrath

fresh reef
frozen hearth
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very well

fresh reef
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wrath is okay, but personally I feel like it has too little impact compared to the warp res

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also don't touch wrack and ruin

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like, just don't

frozen hearth
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i can't see a use for it

fresh reef
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it's not even funny to experiment with

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it's just sad

frozen hearth
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should just be reworked at that point because it doesn't reward bb outside of encouraging bb spamage

fresh reef
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I could understand it if it did 4-6 soulblaze

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but 2 stacks is comparable to being pissed on by an insect

night marten
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much as I want it to be good, wrack and ruin is so sad in its current state Sadge

old crystal
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Sat here for an hour waiting for a shop refresh, and there's not a single staff. Not even a shit one.

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I might put this game aside until they put crafting in.

frozen hearth
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considering i make ramen every other day, this resonates with me immensely

weary wasp
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do you meet the minimum level requirements?

cyan notch
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shop checking simulator

frozen hearth
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give monie

thick carbon
cyan notch
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melk has nothing today? oh well nothing to do except check shop then

frozen hearth
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here have ramen with chicken, tofu, cabbage, two eggs and yes

cyan notch
#

that sounds great

thick carbon
#

that sounds wonderful

potent echo
magic burrow
#

wrack and ruin, instead of applying soulblaze stacks should send out electricity to nearby enemies and stagger them, like the surge staff

magic burrow
#

or maybe it should work based on what staff you have. Void = direct damage explosion, surge = stagger with electricity, purge = souldblaze

weary wasp
#

Soulblaze is fine, aoe is not

magic burrow
#

and for trauma it automatically makes a post on the fatshark forums begging for a trauma staff buff

fresh reef
#

2 stacks is absolute cheeks

weary wasp
#

Wasn't it 3?

fresh reef
#

nop

#

2

magic burrow
#

2 stacks is like nothing. It gives enemies the equivalent of a nice tan

weary wasp
#

Well that tickles at best KEKW_ogryn

#

3 would be nice but still not great with that aoe

magic burrow
#

if it doesnt at least kill a pox walker its functionally irrelevant

weary wasp
#

Otherwise popping two gunners would be enough to melt all their friends nearby, ideally

mental pecan
#

And the vet gets 8 stacks of bleed for a grenade throw

fresh reef
weary wasp
#

Nades are limited and sb can be stacked on top with ability and purgatus. Regardless, wnr is kinda sissy weak

azure ice
#

Soulblaze good?

weary wasp
#

Only if you're doing purgatus

magic burrow
#

dont vets have a grenade regenerating thingy

fierce hazel
#

Why is the long answer

mental pecan
#

I would more like a bb buff. And that the feats are not only for bb or souldblaze. Feats should be neutral or actualy depending on the staff you use. Atm every staff needs a different feat build

weary wasp
fresh reef
#

this is what 2 stacks of soulblaze looks like
||on fucking Sedition scaling lul ||

fierce hazel
#

In my eyes a full soulfire builds chip is great for the team for faster killing of problem children

magic burrow
mental pecan
#

Purgatus-soulblaze. Surge has no dmg but atrong cc-survival and bb. Trauma-useless. Void-force wep dmg with bb.

weary wasp
#

6 warp charges ability into full purgatus load can easily clear a room of non ogryn elites

fresh reef
#

my brain's gonna burst if I see people keep writing off trauma as useless I stg

fierce hazel
#

Nothing is useless

#

Some things are just better than others

#

Some marginaly

magic burrow
#

6 warp charges into the ascendant blaze is the ultimate "ill pay you six warp charges to fuck off" move against hordes

fierce hazel
#

Some more

weary wasp
fresh reef
#

trauma is worst staff, I don't contest that

mental pecan
#

Void has range and it has the stagger. Trauma has only that little aoe stagger and the dmg is only in that area

fresh reef
#

however

lucid mortar
#

Personally I can't be bothered to worry about 6 warp charges, I just ignore them and rely on passives to build them up

fresh reef
#

skill issue

fresh reef
#

it can knock over a crusher at min charge

weary wasp
#

Also void obly does a tiny stagger and a less tiny on final explosion

mental pecan
weary wasp
weary wasp
fresh reef
#

I wish BB cc'd

#

would make it way better for dealing with shooters

lucid mortar
#

Yeah it'd be cool to see some feats changed to modify the behavior of BB

fresh reef
#

actually what am I wishing for, just give me fucking closed beta BB back

weary wasp
#

It does like a tiny interupt just before dealing damage but that's it, and a little too late

mental pecan
#

Still it has less effect on many enemys. I would rather take void or purgatus than surge. If a chain weapon zealot is in the team he can 2 hit a crusher with his special or a thunder hammer. To hell if a vet has a bolter the crusher will be down in like 2 sec

weary wasp
#

The point is that it's not "no damage". Nor do you take it for damage anyway

fresh reef
#

^^

lucid mortar
#

something like "for 5s after bb, enemies within 15m of target are suppressed", would make it a nice tactical opener for a group of shooters

fresh reef
#

either way, the damage doesn't matter too much since whatever you're hitting literally can't fight back

cyan notch
#

5s kinda op

weary wasp
#

If the bloody supression wasn't broken on dregs

lucid mortar
#

ok well you get what I mean lol,

#

like enough time to have an ogryn charge in and start swinging

mental pecan
#

You hit with surge staff a few enemys while there are like 50 xD

weary wasp
#

Or to zap a dog and promptly kick it

weary wasp
lucid mortar
#

Yeah surge is kinda bad for hordes and I think that's a good thing, would be too OP otherwise

weary wasp
#

Can't have it all

sleek yacht
#

question, what are ideal perks for surge?

lucid mortar
#

at least crit

weary wasp
#

Flak and crit

sleek yacht
#

gotcha ty

weary arrow
#

what is "critical peril"? when ur peril number becomes red? or 100% peril?

grizzled nexus
#

red

potent echo
#

You try to BB a gunner patrol and they start splitting up, you can't stack the soulblaze

alpine portal
potent echo
#

Critical is 90% staregryn

#

You can find that out by using the peril block talent

#

It stops at critical aka 90%

south zephyr
#

Worth getting?

alpine portal
#

ok I hate it but vet has nice weapons. if we got a force sword that like the power sword id be pretty happy

weary arrow
#

and for psykinetic wrath, at what peril do you get full 15% dmg boost?

alpine portal
potent echo
#

Climbs all the way to 100% peril

weary arrow
#

hmm is it worth getting? if u sit at about 50%, its about what? 10% boost or somethin?

frozen hearth
#

getting wiped because someone couldn't hear a daemonhost :)

weary arrow
#

didnt hear or didnt want to hear? XD

weary wasp
#

The times I had someone stumble over a host

#

"I didn't heaaar iiit"

leaden pier
#

this good?

mild tartan
#

Sir Melk: BECOME A GUN PSYKER ALREADY YOU FUCK

leaden pier
#

perhaps you should gun psyker

proud mantle
# leaden pier this good?

if im not wrong that blessing has little use on that specific duel sword cause the cleave moves are only just overheads

#

so like it'll be good if everything is in a straight line but otherwise not useful

void anvil
#

I hate that 80% of good items in the shop and melk's are guns for the psyker

proud mantle
#

stat-wise could be better

#

funny tier 4 perk tho

void anvil
#

actually just like 80% of all the items I get are guns

unkempt juniper
#

but statwise, yes its a pretty good sword

fast swan
#

new psyker here, does the surge staff at higher levels get enough damage to outright kill hordes?

#

in one charge

digital narwhal
#

Surge staff secondary fire is for hard stunning

#

Use primary fire for damage

fast swan
#

darn, makes sense tho as it would be better than fire in every way

digital narwhal
#

If you want CC + Damage, then go for the Purgatus or Voidstrike

fast swan
#

its a shame the trauma staff is so terrible, it feels really fun

#

if only the charge time was way faster, the radius bigger, and the damage way way higher

digital narwhal
#

Purgatus is my personal favourite staff

fast swan
#

even wiht those changes void would still be better lol

digital narwhal
#

Surge feels bad to me because it does such low damage on secondary fire

fast swan
#

yea but it is crazy useful

digital narwhal
lethal plover
digital narwhal
#

The damage is great, but hitting the damage is the issue

fast swan
#

surge staff is like the ogryn shield for psyker, all utility and no damage

nimble burrow
#

I loved Surge but it’s pure Mutant stopping utility

fast swan
#

even a high level one doesnt one shot trash, it just moves it around

digital narwhal
#

Trauma's damage is great though, it rips people apart, the issue is that it's AOE is too small and finnicky

fast swan
#

it just needs something

lethal plover
fast swan
#

oh mine must suck then lol!

digital narwhal
#

Every Trauma sucks

#

The AOE is too finnicky to see the damage often

lethal plover
#

that's the reason to use it. Because it actually kills trash zombies instead of having to headshot like void

fast swan
#

trauma staff special attack should just spawn a max charge trauma explosion at ur feet

digital narwhal
#

Great damage, TERRIBLE AoE

digital narwhal
lethal plover
#

trauma also oneshots bursters for some reason

untold surge
#

Trauma is so much harder to use than voidstrike that it may as well not exist

lethal plover
#

I actually find trauma easier, because trauma can do 360 push which void can't

digital narwhal
#

Trauma's Peril cost should be cut in half, and holding onto max charge should pause Peril gain, but cause it to not drop either.
The AOE should be larger and more like the actual AOE indicator too.

lethal plover
#

but to each their own style

fast swan
#

also trauma slows u so much

#

it feels so fun but needs to be buffed in literally every way to compete lol

#

i just really hope for a laser staff

digital narwhal
#

I want a Beam Staff too

fast swan
#

no stagger or cc and really high peril cost but crazy damage especially on crits

#

i want to laser a crusher's skull off

digital narwhal
#

Sienna had a Beam Staff in V2

proud mantle
#

i cant tell if there's a use for this

fast swan
#

i want a force greatsword with cleave first but then yea beam staff would be lit

lethal plover
fast swan
#

no?

digital narwhal
#

I want something similar to that, but slightly different:
Long range, high damage beam for primary fire.
Secondary fire is a chargeable frontal shockwave that deals damage and applies a status effect.

lethal plover
#

Figures, a lot of new psykers don't know how cheesy psyker high level is

fast swan
#

what is this peril axe?

lethal plover
fast swan
#

ah brutal momentum

digital narwhal
#

Ah yes, tank Psyker build

fast swan
#

the thing is i dont play psyker to use normal melee weapons

#

i need my sword or axe to suck their soul out and explode it

lethal plover
#

it's just the mk5 axe push attack + peril block feat

fast swan
#

damn

lethal plover
#

psyker doesn't use stamina so we can abuse push attack

#

and we can rez midst horde

#

we are the best tank and reviver after ogryn

fast swan
#

i want one of the talents yo let overloading on peril not down us but just instantly give a wound full corruption

#

so i can stack hella wounds and use peril bomb effectively lol

lethal plover
#

antax mk5 axe

leaden pier
#

so why use the mkV over the other combat axes?

lethal plover
#

the meme axe

#

literally one button to kill zombies + ragers + dogs + everything

#

except crushers I guess, you gotta heavy

cyan notch
#

erm aghchually its 2 buttons

stuck basalt
#

axe is powerful

lethal plover
#

tru

brazen basalt
#

why specifically 5 axe? never quite understood that.

#

rashad axe also got the same flat pushswing.

violet yoke
#

Axe 5 has the most cleave and crazy high damge on mutants on base swing

brazen basalt
#

but we get infinite cleave from brumom anyway.

violet yoke
#

I mean u can use any weapon u want but I see zealots and vets use that axe alot as well... must be good...

cyan notch
#

check the push attack damage

#

mkv is way more

violet yoke
#

Mkv is a damn cannon

buoyant mantle
#

so, has anyone seen bloodthirsty on FS beside that one pic that was posted yesterday?

manic needle
#

ACKSHUALLY it was 2-3 pics, I believe

summer prairie
#

I've one

buoyant mantle
buoyant mantle
manic needle
#

So it seems, its just very rare to find since youd have to get it from Consecration or Sire Bilk

cyan notch
cyan notch
#

just upgrading blue > purple?

summer prairie
#

melk

cyan notch
#

i see

flint turtle
#

Out with a bang is so bad I'm just gonna wait and hope its changed

elfin roost
#

People like Dueling Sword IV most?

steel egret
#

Dont like any of them.

alpine portal
steel egret
#

Probably till next attack.

summer prairie
#

seems to be about 5s

steel egret
#

Oh it has actual timeout?

#

Why wouldnt they include that info.

alpine portal
#

Fat shark including info? I thing that's against there policy

manic needle
wanton raft
#

well i've been quite impressed by the inspect feature

#

but yeah, i have no idea how any blessings work

alpine portal
#

Wait.... is the emporer.... a servitor now?

magic hull
#

it also staggers enemies nicely too

mild tartan
#

depends on the staff you run tbh

magic burrow
#

if you enjoy the dueling sword, you should try the combat knife. It's like the dueling sword on crack

river sand
#

hey guys, i know the list on gameslantern isnt complete (cause it lacks double shot for void for expample). has anyone seen a surge staff with blazing spirit, or is it really not possible ?

magic burrow
#

it would fit the theme of the surge staff, and I don't see what would make it OP if it could get it, so it would be weird if they arbitrarily decided the lightning staff was not allowed to set things on fire

near wyvern
#

Duelling sword IV and II are pretty similar

IV has better heavies for single target damage and II has 1 extra attack in light chain for marginally better horde clear

near wyvern
#

Combat knife only deals good DPS when you can constantly find the heads.

With mutants this is hard AF as their head is so small and constantly moving.

Duelling sword can find the head even if you hit from behind.

wanton raft
#

push stab spam on mutants is pretty reasonable damage. however you guys have persuaded me to try the mk 5 axe and I'm sold. i didn't notice the push attack was cleave and that fills what was lacking for me

round jay
wanton raft
#

is stam on curios bugged? just testing one for the first time and it's not showing in game

round jay
#

It’s supposed to give you one or two extra stamina bar

wanton raft
#

yeah, but it's not

summer prairie
#

you only get 1 stamina

round jay
#

Not sure if it also increase your total stamina or just allow you to block more as each bar consume less

wanton raft
#

oh, even with a +3 stam curio?

#

block efficiency is surely the stat that makes each bar consume less. +stam surely gives more bars

round jay
#

Tbh I used them only during the beta because I had nothing else, I don’t remember enough the differences

mild tartan
#

From what I can tell anyway

wanton raft
#

well that's pretty useless then. damnit, i just rolled a really nice stam curio

mild tartan
#

yeah I was running +3 stam for a while and realized it was only showing up with my staff out, decided to switch to more health instead

round jay
#

Keep it for later, maybe it will become useful at some point

wanton raft
#

well i'm testing kinetic deflection so i guess stam's less of an issue

mild tartan
#

Yeah I run KD so that was also a reason it wasnt that helpful lol

round jay
#

What’s that already?

#

Blocking add peril thing?

wanton raft
#

KD is the feat that means you can block with peril instead of stam

round jay
#

mmmh

wanton raft
#

seems more useful now I'm going hybrid melee with axe and push-attacking a lot

round jay
#

Honestly I think this one is really bad

#

When you can use force sword to just stun everyone without using steam (might be a bug tho)

wanton raft
#

i've tried force sword. it's decent but the lack of auto-quel is putting it on the back burner for me for now

round jay
#

I don’t use it for his power for sure

zinc creek
#

Hi, is there a staff that i should be aming for or are they all good? Using voidestrike at the moment and no other staff seems as good.

river sand
#

void - general purpose / surge - elites and stun / purg - hordeclear / trauma - actually pretty good at high density mixed hordes

round jay
#

Purgatus and surge staff are (for me) the best ones

#

I don’t like too much trauma staff, the range and area seems too low for what it cost. It’s less fun

#

Where you can spam surge or throw fire for a long time and stun them

river sand
#

you gotta be good at aiming that thing and judging the situation. but true its more niche

zinc creek
#

Tried to use surge but feels like I'm useless. Might be because I'm playing more malice.

With void i can wipe out hordes in seconds or at least trow the to the floor

round jay
river sand
#

surge starts to shine at heresy/damnation when there are tons of big guys. stunlocking them and killing the armoured stuff is pretty good

round jay
#

Meanwhile the rest of the team is not useless

river sand
round jay
#

I guess yeah, tho playing on damnation isn’t really my gameplay xD, I stuck on difficulty 4

wanton raft
#

yeah, damage isn't the strength of surge, it's the CC. personally i think all are viable though i'm not so much a fan of trauma

oblique jasper
#

which is better

round jay
#

Damage are low on those

oblique jasper
#

yea i havent been getting good surge staves in my shop

#

but im not really charging it up to full anyway, just spam cc

round jay
#

That’s charge speed stuff which isn’t important on this staff, but having some damage even it’s not the main purpose is nice

zinc creek
#

Aha so you should not be charging surge to full?

deft fiber
#

No.

#

Quell Speed, Warp Res is most important stats for this.

digital narwhal
zinc creek
#

So fire as fast as possible with surge?

round jay
#

Yep

#

More like a support class, you stun them, your mate kill them

#

m2 into m1 asap

#

If it’s just a hand of mob you can charge it max and kill them. But during true fights just spam it

#

I do like spamming it until I reach 100% then I start the exploding animation after my last attack. I use my power with 4 stack of soulblaze on all of them and I lose 50% peril, then spam it again

zinc creek
#

Will try. might be that I always fully charge that makes the staff feel useless.

round jay
#

That’s why warp resist is important and not charge speed, you want to spam it as much as possible

orchid nest
#

it does depend a little, just use common sense as you get used to it. if there is a ton of elites not dying fast it's better to wait a tiny amount between spamming/quell really quick otherwise you can find yourself needing to quell when your team mates went all in because they thought it would continue to be stunned

round jay
#

It does have a pretty good range too, you can spam it on enemy far enough, then take cover to quell and repeat

#

Very useful against shooter

#

But don’t hope to kill them with it to much, especially above level 3 difficulty.

zinc creek
#

As long as it feels like I'm helping. Thank you for the pointers 🙂

Do you have any pointers for the purgatus?

river sand
#

most of the time you stun gunners with m2, close the distance and melee them while stunned

#

dont forget your melee is a strong option and you have pretty much the strongest block of all classes

round jay
#

I still thing it’s a bug. I hope not but it consumes stamina and still works when you have none

tawdry shell
#

this is just random feats I like

#

I am running a voidstrike staff

#

what do y'all use for your feats?

stuck basalt
#

112133

zinc creek
round jay
#

With surge I use 221232

tawdry shell
#

so exactly what I am using now KEKW_ogryn

round jay
#

Yep

#

But I use something else with purgatus staff, I don’t remember

stuck basalt
#

warp resistance just useless KEKW_ogryn most of the time you won't got max stack anyway

round jay
#

I’m always max stack

stuck basalt
#

also killing with warp energy, you barely kill stuff with warp energy

round jay
#

Thx to the other perks

summer prairie
#

312133 for surge

round jay
#

Depends on the purpose of the build I guess

#

Mine is to get enough warp resistance so I can spam even more

#

I still think KB is bad

stuck basalt
#

you kill faster = cast less KEKW_ogryn, warp resistance is useless stat

summer prairie
#

bb goes from 2s to like 1.25s

round jay
#

25% is from 2s to 1.5s

summer prairie
#

yes, but it goes to 1.25s

orchid nest
#

kb with psy aura is the only way bb feels useful to me on damn

summer prairie
#

it's not 25%

#

you can time it and even without timing it's clearly faster than 25%

round jay
#

It says 25% 🤔

#

Welp, if the description is wrong then helpmeplz

summer prairie
#

might even be faster than 1.25s

round jay
summer prairie
#

~1.1s-1.15s

round jay
#

I Hope they make this a true feature then

tawdry shell
#

OH

steel egret
#

I dont bb without it.

orchid nest
#

yeah but it's up extremely fast because you're recharging it back with aura with a ton of elites on damnation

tawdry shell
#

now I see the link

#

finally I can make BB useful again

#

its really hard to kill shit with it

#

but with the cd reduction

#

yeah I can see how its usable then

muted swan
#

are bombs useless for ogryns?????????

round jay
#

Hard not really, just boring and innefficient

steel egret
#

Only time I see slow bb is when level 11 psyker joins mission

muted swan
#

do i have to shoot it to explode?

tawdry shell
#

you throw it directly at people

#

they die

muted swan
#

and?

tawdry shell
#

yeah

#

that was the explanation

muted swan
#

....

#

for reals?

tawdry shell
#

yes

#

its not a grenade

round jay
#

They’re too dumb to unlock the grenade. So they throw the whole pack Nice

muted swan
#

HAHAHA!

#

maybe pin is too small for the ogre's hands.... das soooo cute

tawdry shell
#

rock

#

throw

#

people die

round jay
#

I prefer the dumb excuse

#

More lore accurate staregryn

muted swan
round jay
#

Yes

#

Everyone’s love them

vagrant cedar
round jay
#

Everyone loves the happy fools

vagrant cedar
#

nice balance, GAME

round jay
#

Really?

#

It does more than 850?

vagrant cedar
#

no idea but it seems to kill a charger in 1 hit

round jay
#

Yeah, bb removes like 90% of his life

vagrant cedar
#

not on damnation

#

you need 3 of them

#

iirc

round jay
#

Sure, damnation is like 40%

#

Even on level 4 I think it takes 3 hit

next rivet
#

mfw i throw the Box at a daemonhost's head for the first time and they lose like 40% of their health

round jay
latent juniper
#

When I checked last Time, the box is pretty much insta kill on any elite except the crusher if you hit head, that was on heresy I believe

next rivet
#

i swear, ogryns wreck that thing. you either trivialise it with the shield, or apply boxes to its head while it force chokes a lil un

orchid nest
#

this is on damnation meat grinder, no blessings altering power

teal kite
#

worth getting?

orchid nest
latent juniper
#

But yes, The box does more damage than BB

orchid nest
#

for grenade box to the head

round jay
#

WTF

latent juniper
#

Yep

#

3750 dmg KEKW_ogryn

round jay
#

HOW

orchid nest
#

it prob did more than that, it was just his max health

weary wasp
#

Lunch

potent echo
round jay
#

meanwhile, with 6 warp charge it does 1k max

vagrant cedar
#

box mechanics

latent juniper
#

Head always hits max health

orchid nest
#

oh ok

teal kite
potent echo
#

As close to max as possible

round jay
#

bb always hit the head pepe

potent echo
#

74% burn also only 14 stacks max, instead of 15

next rivet
#

aye, the full damage of the box... maybe crusher or bulwark? otherwise you literally can't know because monstrosities arent in the meat grinder

teal kite
latent juniper
#

Melk can be a gypsy sometimes

potent echo
#

Definitely not worth melkcoins

#

Even the blessing is horrible

teal kite
#

you see big time gear score without seeing the warp resistance is like 5%

vagrant cedar
#

14 stacks aint back if perks/talents are nice

potent echo
#

You can definitely wait for a better one

vagrant cedar
#

it's a casinotide

#

you might never get a better one

#

it's all random shit

#

RNGTIde

potent echo
#

You can choose not to buy

teal kite
#

NoobTide

latent juniper
#

I'd take it considering every other stat is 70%+

vagrant cedar
#

it depends on what your current best staff is

#

is it an upgrade

potent echo
#

I had a gray with 79% everything except damage

vagrant cedar
#

good upgrade = buy it

potent echo
#

Never got anything good from melk

latent juniper
#

The only thing I got from melk atm is a random curio and he actually gave me a good one at the time.

#

Epic embed

potent echo
#

Oh wait that's the wrong one

orchid venture
#

Going from a level 30 fully kitted zealot to a fresh psyker has been... a learning experience, to say the least

latent juniper
#

Pain

potent echo
orchid venture
#

Here's hoping it gets better, i can only assume it's going poorly because none of my weapons have a single modifier over 50%

orchid venture
#

any tips so it doesn't suck so badly?

potent echo
#

Good for dumping more staff out or just making space

teal kite
golden jackal
#

Anything below 97% doesnt make you explode

wanton raft
#

stun everything with surge and let your team kill everything 😛

#

and don't be afraid to switch to melee when things get close

#

surge wont lock down an entire horde

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good for a few armoured mobs though

orchid venture
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I've been using the... i don't even recall what is called, the one that shoots a big ball

potent echo
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As long as you release your staff before 100% you won't explode

golden jackal
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also dodge a lot, especially in melee

potent echo
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Bowling ball staff is great if you got good sightlines, biggest advantage is it's (infinite) range

maiden wolf
wanton raft
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yeah

teal kite
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I do like surge for stunning those annoying dogs

teal kite
wanton raft
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you can dodge out, lightning a room and dodge into cover. it ignores LOS once you've tagged them

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oh, and if you're able to identify ranged specials and brainburst them your team will be happy

orchid venture
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That part isn't a problem, since I've got lots of vt2 experience

teal kite
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I havent played a game like this since Payday 2

vagrant cedar
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do i change that to maniac

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hmm

orchid venture
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I'm not really sure yet what my best choice for melee is yet, but i kinda wish i had a force sword that did the side slash on 1st heavy

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Been using that, and the MkV dueling saber

wanton raft
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both good choices. i've been playing around with mk 5 axe and love the push cleave

golden jackal
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I use force sword, light attacks are great at horde clearing and powerup is amazing on elites

wanton raft
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only drawback to force sword is the lack of auto-quell

robust meteor
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i can think of a few more than that

wanton raft
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ok, biggest drawback 😛

orchid venture
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Oh, for the trait that gives toughness on quell, auto quell doesn't count for that, right?

golden jackal
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worth it?

wanton raft
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it does, pivot

worn heath
wanton raft
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so you can regen away from your teammates if need be

orchid venture
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Oh rad, that makes it quite a bit better than the other options lol

worn heath
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so technically you can regen your toughness by blocking with a non-force weapon's passive vent with the block with perils talent

wanton raft
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from shop sure, Upadly. from melk i'd probably wait for a 20%

orchid venture
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Alright, I'll see if it starts going better following those tips, but I have been getting some characters in my runs lately at these low levels...

leaden dune
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this axe is not great right

near wyvern
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Yeah limb splitter trashes even a good axe

orchid nest
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depends on class. you want limbsplitter for psyker antax push spam. it and brutal momentum. not so great on like zealot though

leaden dune
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is decap any good?

orchid nest
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as they currently stand I would use the other one you linked. although that could change if it got another blessing, but I wouldn't bother upgrading that one either

orchid nest
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every push attack is the first attack in a chain

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or it's more correct to say it just never chains I guess

leaden dune
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think i'll save my Melkbux

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for something more exciting

orchid nest
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yeah limbsplitter is good for psyker use but if that is a melk one I wouldn't buy it either

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get brutal momentum as a base and then work from there with whatever decent blessing you can get until we have the full crafting

balmy patrol
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hello sparkies

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how does run and gun even work

cyan notch
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works with your primary

orchid nest
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can left click while sprinting without stopping

balmy patrol
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oh the magic missile?

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hmm

wanton raft
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it's... not great

balmy patrol
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yeah feels bad

near wyvern
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Only somewhat useful on puratus but still there are better blessings to have on it (warp flurry and warp nexus)

rocky cedar
weary wasp
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I didn't feel any different with flurry

vagrant cedar
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how i wish there was a mmr ranking in this game

orchid nest
vagrant cedar
orchid nest
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ah yeah lmao

vagrant cedar
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literally jump into 15-20 shooters at the start of the mission

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and i'm just looking at them from the drop down zone

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and be like

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"leave"

digital narwhal
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"Oh hey, I could make something out of this, let's just have a look at the Modifier Rolls-"

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:(

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308

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Sadge

tulip gale
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Heretics. Does kinetic flayer stack warp charges, or proc wrack and ruin?

digital narwhal
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It does.

tulip gale
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Thanks!

frail spire
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do u guys prefer dueling sword or combat axe? (i use surge staff)

vagrant cedar
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axe

vagrant cedar
shut thorn
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But imo, best defensive on surge is antax mk v

shut thorn
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People are kinda sleeping on forcesword infinite side dodge tho

fallow meadow
frail spire
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i think i want horde clear as melee

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with surge

summer prairie
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Without brutal momentum mkv is pretty mediocre horde clear, even the dagger is probably better, but it's good with it

shut thorn
frail spire
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not my style, but thanks anyways

fallow meadow
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Just make it clear, dueling sword is not bad on killing, axe is just so good at it.

shut thorn
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🙃

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wolfenstein mp40 moment honestly

vagrant cedar
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Dueling sword takes 6 hits to kill, axe 1