psyker-class

[hollow steeple]

Do you need to? When does it stop one-shotting scab shooters?

[potent echo]

and pushing more often

[long wharf]

taking more advantage of block->peril

[inland sand]

does most of the surge staff damage come from crits?

[potent echo]

i think its still bugged though, you can block broken at 0% stamina

[orchid nacelle]

for reference this is my axe

[dense cloud]

😄 finaly full orange feels good 😄

[mild tartan]

I dont think it does on heresy? maybe im wrong

[long wharf]

it's not broken - you block with peril not stamina

[fringe garden]

And peril blocking makes auto quell restore toughness

[potent echo]

some other guy and I tested that even with 0% peril, you will get guard broken if you are hit with 0% stamina

[mortal pendant]

i dont think there's a prettier sight than seeing everything completed on damnation

[fringe garden]

It's a very nice loop

[potent echo]

happens sometimes if you are pushing too aggressively vs gunner

[long wharf]

oh, that's what you meant

I guess

but that's going to happen regardless

[weary wasp]

mk v has a horizontal/vertical push attack with infinite cleave on brutal momentum blessing, so unlike swords it can just trim heads

[fossil snow]

okay more psyker knowledge

[mild tartan]

yeah brutal momentum really makes it shine

[potent echo]

might just be a forcesword/deflector thing though

[fossil snow]

say its just me and a zealot

[long wharf]

brutal momentum + limbsplitter = everything dies in front of you

[fossil snow]

and lets say I open a door and its FULL of scab gunners?

[long wharf]

because the push attack is the first and last attack in a chain

[fossil snow]

what do?

[long wharf]

constantly proc'ing limbsplitter

[potent echo]

take cover

[fossil snow]

none of them are big enough that bb will change make a big change

[potent echo]

or rush in

[hollow steeple]

What staff are you using?

[fringe garden]

Step out of line of sight, charge a surge staff, step back in just long enough to shock

[long wharf]

frankly, I have a hard time using force sword, even with deflector and elite/boss nuking, instead of my combat axe

[fossil snow]

the zealot is off getting his nipples pulled of by mr bulwark and the mauler bros

[orchid nacelle]

you can roll Devastating Strike on swords

which doesn't have a weakpoint req

[fossil snow]

gottcha

[long wharf]

it's easier to hit heads than crits

head is skill, crit is random

[orchid nacelle]

also Savage Sweep

[potent echo]

i only ever use forcesword to pair with purge, fighting hordes with FS takes forever (compared to axe or even DS)

[feral crater]

Okay chat moves way too fast to send a ton of short messages. Just type it all out and stop giving us headaches please

[fringe garden]

Force Sword is a trap imo

[fossil snow]

I have a mkv axe with decimator, should I upgrade it?

[potent echo]

FS good for infinite dodge

you are the objective chaser

[long wharf]

true, but how often do you need to infinite dodge?

[mild tartan]

go for it bro I have faith it will become godly

[potent echo]

you just hold block and dodge towards any objective while remaining 100% safe

you can dodge through a horde this way too

[fossil snow]

bullshit that works

you're lying to me

[potent echo]

its infinite dodges

psyker FS best button presser

like at the end of strike missions

[fossil snow]

the peterpan acrobatic shit ive done to get out a horde and I could have just

said no

[potent echo]

someone gotta press the buttons, just dodge there and dodge back to your team

[long wharf]

frankly, I haven't found myself needing to try to dodge through a horde

better to just kill the horde quickly

[mild tartan]

Why not just dodge to the end of the mission

[potent echo]

specials

[fringe garden]

Yeah, I'd rather kill the horde

[fossil snow]

while im at it, I run into an issue with psyker I didnt with any other job

im not certain what I want to gold

[deft trench]

Anyone know if i have to switch off my force sword if i want to be able to tank a deamonhost decently well?
Have heard non force melee weapons have way better quell

[fossil snow]

like with other jobs I have a big favorite but with psyker I got my FS and now I dont know what I want

[potent echo]

you need a non forcesword to tank daemonhost

[fossil snow]

staffs dont feel like diff weapons so much as

abilities

[fossil snow]

I do?

[mild tartan]

yeah non force weapons have way better passive quell

[potent echo]

FS peril decay is too slow

[orchid nacelle]

yeah but FS can quell

[long wharf]

that's going to get fixed

[potent echo]

if an axe you can (mostly) afk in a corner vs daemonhost

[mild tartan]

not something to do when you're tanking though

[potent echo]

maybe dodge 1 or 2 hits you golden

[orchid nacelle]

you can quell when you're not blocking and not being attacked

but not while tanking

quickening helps

[potent echo]

microquelling for half a second does nth really..

[deft trench]

Guessing axe or dueling sword would be the best general weapon in that case?

[orchid nacelle]

well

if you're not attacking, blocking, or being attacked

why not quell

[potent echo]

why not use an axe your life is so much easier

[orchid nacelle]

because axe doesn't block ranged attacks

[potent echo]

we talking about tanking daemonhosts 🤔

[orchid nacelle]

OOOO

i'm dumb

but you can eat some ranged chip damage with FS if your team is all focused on the host

[weary wasp]

im just sitting out here with 60 block efficiency and 2x3 stamina deflector FS because someone has to

[keen belfry]

Host still break through my block, not enough stamina?

[orchid nacelle]

get more BCR

[keen belfry]

i have a good amount atleast 35-40%

i could roll some on my sword i guess

[bleak sonnet]

why are we aggroing daemonhost in the first place

:P

[deft trench]

Well the plan's not to, but if it happens i want to be prepared lmao

[simple scaffold]

I think FS is best used with ranged block

[keen pawn]

???? The floor is a Psyker?

[simple scaffold]

without that, go with something that attacks fast

[weary wasp]

game sometimes puts DHs in literal coridors

[deft trench]

Game puts dh's under you

[bleak sonnet]

havent run into that personally

[fossil snow]

holy fuck I just had this axe

sitting in my inv

its monsterous

I never touched it because its off theme

[keen belfry]

just one axe?

i have about 10

its all i get

[manic needle]

Lucky

[fossil snow]

I got my 1 purple mk v from big emps

but Im just now using it

[manic needle]

I get useless things like autoguns

And Ive had to buy Mk. 5 axes from the armoury

[ornate hamlet]

Went full goose

[fossil snow]

I always get lasguns

[keen pawn]

im so confused by that clip

[keen belfry]

Axe's lasguns and pistols

[echo parrot]

oh my

[steel flame]

Deflector fs has ruined me. Its so hard going to a melee weapon that can't block bullets.

[quick plover]

Question regarding Kinetic Deflection. Is the peril damage it does related to your total stamina at all? Someone told me the math once and it wasnt very clear on that, so I cant figure out if I want stamina to get more value out of Kinetic, or if I want to ignore it and get more value from other curio stats

[split oxide]

What's the best weapon against PlagueOgryns (open to psykers)?
("Other Players" don't count as an answer)

[orchid nacelle]

does peril resistance stack with block cost reduction for kinetic deflection

[echo parrot]

A vet alt a force sword

[hollow steeple]

purgatus seems pretty solid against the minibosses

[mild tartan]

I like having stamina because I like to dodge a lot as well, and you can get guard broken if your stam hits 0 even with peril block. Honestly don't think it matters beyond that though.

[alpine portal]

efer feel like a baby sitter?

[split oxide]

You can dodge a plagueogryn?

[alpine portal]

got this game frustrates me sometimes

[quick plover]

Yeah I'd keep a little for that, I dodge allot during quelling, but when i was explained the math behind it they made it sound like the more stamina you have the more blocking your peril equated to per % so I was neverr sure. Thanks

[vagrant cedar]

but you don't get weapon stamina from +stamina curios

do you

[hollow steeple]

?

[fossil snow]

Im not a psyker doomer

but I am running with a bolter vet and a plasma vet

[echo parrot]

ok doomer

[fossil snow]

and man

[split oxide]

When he's got his 'lash/whip' out and charging, I've never managed to dodge him with FS.

[alpine portal]

dodge crouch?

[wet raven]

psy moment

[fossil snow]

I know that pysker isnt super underpowered like people complain

[simple scaffold]

Not a fan of stamina with the force shield and block feat. You will have enough block

[fossil snow]

but right now I feel like an npc

[hollow steeple]

dodge backwards? I've never had that issue

[simple scaffold]

Psyker feels great, I dont know what the problem is eitehr

[fossil snow]

I cannot kill ANYTHING with these two

[simple scaffold]

Like, warp charge system is a little janky

[echo parrot]

What difficulty

[simple scaffold]

but otherwise its fun

[fossil snow]

3

[alpine portal]

what level are you ?

[fossil snow]

27

[split oxide]

I was last psyker on map, mutie/plagueogryn combo got me

[fossil snow]

I cant kill anything because these two off it faster than I can do anything

[echo parrot]

Thats not surprising then, you will see them being forced to be more conservative with their bolter/plasma ammo in 4s/5s. Meanwhile we have unlimited ammo, great CC, and great horde clear.

[alpine portal]

oh though you ment weapons and in general

[mild tartan]

doesn't it apply universally? Could be wrong though honestly havent paid attention to it that closely lol

[echo parrot]

At 3s though things die so easily and ammo is so plentiful, so yeah, vets just mop up

[ornate hamlet]

I seem to be doing most of the killing with my purgatus, to be honest. Usually a vet around killing most of the specials, but yeah

[fossil snow]

ah no its not pyker feeling bad

its that these two vets are just

tearing everything up

[echo parrot]

#psyker-class message

[mild tartan]

A psyker with the best possible gear is about equivalent to a sharpshooter with just relatively decent ish shit as far as how fast they can clear a room, that's pretty accurate

[simple scaffold]

Two things that help:
-Higer difficulty spawns more ogryns, and brainbursting those is ideal, especially crushers and bulwarks
-The last feat that speeds up brainburst is really solid, seems underappreciated even. I run that with the cooldown reduction feat instead of the random warpcharge proc

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly when a huge group of specials all come in together with a horde I usually get most of them with my fire

It's just too much for the slow rate of fire of the kantrael to deal with in those moments

[wet raven]

near pointless :>

[alpine portal]

yah that feat is low key amazing, my ult is there when I need it almost every time

[mild tartan]

those two feats are the only way to make BB semiviable, if they fixed the targeting so it actually tried to prioritize specialists/elites to some degree it could even be enjoyable lol

[quick plover]

As a 30 T4 regular on all but ogryn, I wouldnt say psykers bad, but it just feels like I have to do and try so much harder to accomplish slightly worse. And my Psykers my most geared/played, but Ive brought missions back solo from the brink on those classes that I would never have felt possible on my psyker.

[vagrant cedar]

I don't think it does, i think it only applies to BB mode

[simple scaffold]

Theres definitely something there, but there are a few trash feats that care too much about it

[wet raven]

they just need to rework it to be 20 % at 4 and 30% at 6

[mild tartan]

actually I think it applies to staves too but you're probably right as far as primary melee is concerned

[proud mantle]

me when another zealot charges in solo with a team with 2 bots and then dies offscreen after aggroing demonhost

[wet raven]

it might just fix psys scaling all around honestly XP

[mild tartan]

mains of every class have generally acknowledged psyker is the weakest/tends to have the most issues, so it's definitely something that they need to focus on and not just some people wanting buffs

[ornate hamlet]

I mained on veteran but honestly I like my psyker a lot more on T4 and T5 for just dealing with the sheer amount of enemies that come in. My veteran is better at specials but even with the power sword hordes just become overwhelming without someone using a fire weapon

[wet raven]

kinetic overload,wrack and ruin could use buffs too

[simple scaffold]

Psyker has a few dead feats

[mellow apex]

Anyone able to help me get the 90% boss damage penance for psyker on heresy? There is always one guy in lobbies who shoots boss

[long wharf]

ask in LFG

[mellow apex]

I have

[long wharf]

plenty of people are looking for penance help

[wet raven]

i would but i dont have an ogryn, go to ogryn chat

[long wharf]

well, this isn't LFG, so.

[mellow apex]

No one has answered for hours over multiple requests

[fossil snow]

imagine if vent was a mid damage wide spray of energy good for dumping into hordes

[mild tartan]

Warp charges are weird, unless you're designing your feats around using them you just ignore them, and if you do base it around using them your BB ability goes by the wayside because all the feats that make it usable go to the charge ones instead

[wet raven]

itd be highly situational weather i could help with that XP

[mellow apex]

Aye thought some other psykers would want to do some runs together to get it

[ornate hamlet]

What is LFG?

[fossil snow]

you'd flow from spike damage to wide damage as you built and vented peril

[simple scaffold]

Theres a little too much built around brainburst and stacking warp charges, and those feats often compete with something really compelling (the random brainburst feat is so much better than the alternatives they dont even exist)

[long wharf]

Looking For Group

[fossil snow]

is it just me or does having to switch to bb feel like a sales tax

[long wharf]

all of the psyker's mechanics aren't well thought out

[quick plover]

^that

[simple scaffold]

They are a cool mechanic, but they are just a little too much work for just a little too little of a payoff

[wet belfry]

Tbh i kinda wish pyschic communion was just a base iconic for the class.

[simple scaffold]

the press g to bb thing feels a little wacky. I should probably remap that

[simple scaffold]

which is that?

[mild tartan]

They push you into only using a segment of your abilities, when you should be using them all in a symphony of warp destruction

[quick plover]

even just the fact that your hands out meditate isnt scaled to equal your fastest equiped quell speed, and even if your pumping out brain bursts you have to swap to a staff to quell and then back

[fossil snow]

middle click and never look back

[wet belfry]

the 4% chance to get a warp charge whenever you or an ally kills within coherency

It feels very mandatory if you actually want any warp charges at all

[simple scaffold]

that one and the random brainburst one feel part of psyker identity

[long wharf]

the only time I don't take kinetic flayer is when I'm using a void staff

[dense cloud]

lol does terfing barage even work ?

[simple scaffold]

I run the cooldown on elite kill one instead, just ignoring warp charges seems viable

[long wharf]

yes, terrifying barrage works

[mild tartan]

100%, that's why it feels like you choose to either utilize charges or utilize BB and that's pretty much the only choice in the build

[wet raven]

kind of...

its weird

[long wharf]

but enemies can't be constantly suppressed like players can

[fossil snow]

wait wait wait

[dense cloud]

im tesitng int in psaycharium and the duck ther hend alite like teh letting out a fart and that the back in avtion

[fossil snow]

I put a name to that psyker feeling I have

this feels just like in other games when you have a character right

who eventually gets a rework that makes perks part of their kit

it happend in hots a bunch and it always felt like this kind of jank

[mild tartan]

ascendant blaze with warp battery and communion is really fantastic for additional CC, it's pretty much the only viable way to properly utilize charges though.

[fossil snow]

and they'd rework the perk or perks that felt necessary to be built in and it felt so much better by freeing up the choices

[keen belfry]

sick another axe from the emprah

seen like 8 staffs shop included in prob 70 hrs of pskyer

[simple scaffold]

One thing that would make psykers feel better is if there was EVEN more carapace armored foes

[wet belfry]

Probably most issues in psyker come down to warp charges, brain burst

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/tucker-gif-21562668

[quick plover]

You'll take the axe and you'll damn well like it

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[simple scaffold]

since BB is made to kill carapace

[mild tartan]

so is carapace = ogryn and flak = ragers?

not even clear on it yet

[fossil snow]

how do you imagine ogryn survivng bbs? I always imagine them just sorta grasping their heads and holding their skulls together

[whole wharf]

Minus the stamina, very solid staff.

[quick plover]

the damage though ;-;

[keen belfry]

18+ Who dares challenge the emprahs love of axes for me....

[simple scaffold]

I've been a fan of:

Psykinetic's Aura
+15% combat ability cooldown (allies in coherency) on elite kill.
+
Kinetic Barrage
For 10 seconds after using Psykinetic Wrath, your Brain Burst charges 25% faster and consumes 50% less peril.

On heresy, there are so many specials and the BB buff gets kills and reduces the cooldown and it feeds itself nicely, while making BB feel satisfying and relevant

[quick plover]

^ thats how im running

[fossil snow]

honestly if they JUST made the warp charge chance on coherency baked in, id be super happy

[quick plover]

Ascendent feels okay if you get a fire staff, but it seems like you dont get the chance on getting a kill with the damage you do, just the dot

[fossil snow]

id turn into a coherency sheepdog

[keen belfry]

i am about to just roll into Damnation's with only my Axe, and wait for my team to complain

and just be like this is how they want me to play

[mild tartan]

I ran that build to get pick n mix done, I did like it and it makes BB feel a lot better but I still despise the targeting, found myself getting frustrated with it and missed having my F ability be supercharged CC. Definitely smarter to run that when your team is lacking in ranged though

[long wharf]

there's no reason to run AB without using a purge staff

[simple scaffold]

I tried and didnt like ascendent blaze, warp battery just seems like such a weak feat given the state of warp charges and the 10% to brainburst feat

[fossil snow]

what I wouldnt give for like

[long wharf]

if your team is lacking in ranged, BB is not an acceptable substitute

[fossil snow]

a community manager specific to like class stuff

like someone they could tie to a chair and force them to sit in this room with us

[mild tartan]

6 stack warp charge is constantly refilled with communion on heresy+, and its enough to instantly delete basic mobs at that point which usually recharges you again. I like it moreso because the flame goes much farther than the shockwave and goes through walls which makes it good for staggering ranged and damaging them over time

[simple scaffold]

Ill try it out, seems good with a purge staff

Is there a max stacks of soulblaze?

[long wharf]

from purge staff, yes

[simple scaffold]

fire seems to combo with fire

[long wharf]

from other sources, no

[mild tartan]

I do like the random brainburst feat just wish the cooldown was a bit lower, maybe 10s

[quick plover]

Its not bad, but ive started going voidstrike staffs purely for the CC on dogs, since they feel so buggy and inconsistent right now

[simple scaffold]

voidstrikes fireballs are really satisfying. makes you feel likea true ranged class with horde clear

[quick plover]

the option of an instant shoot out aoe flinch on the right click, and the charge up clear potential has me not missing purgatas

[keen belfry]

I love when the Hounds defy gravity and float into the air before swooping in like a B-21 bomber and pouncing on people

[mild tartan]

I despised the purgs lmb attack so much I've only used surge and void since lol

[simple scaffold]

with void you do have to play even more defensive, getting caught out of position is more punishing with this weapon

[simple scaffold]

its basicly just a light shove to buy time to switch to melee or run away

[quick plover]

I disagree, because you can use the uncharged right click of void for this exact same purpose

you dont have the aoe clear without charging, and the charge is allot slower though, but with a little bit of dodging I find its a non-issue

[simple scaffold]

I dont understand, these points dont seem incompatible?

to clarify, I mean the lmb on purge is just a shove

the voids right click sets up a heavier right click for sure

I like void too 🙂

Surge staff is good but it doesnt feel satisfying in PUGs

trauma staff I didnt like and havent given it a second chance

[quick plover]

Im disagreeing with your other point because you have the exact same option (of a left click purg) with an uncharged right click void strike. I dont find it lacks the defensive option of purg with the stagger that gives, and I personally run Warp Flurry for charge time off on chained secondarys, so I can spam that stagger a couple times to get breathing room and speed up the follow up of a charged attack

[round shuttle]

Trauma needs balancing to be not garbage but also needs some tweaks so it’s not just a more awkward to use void strike

[simple scaffold]

warp flurry is really good on void for sure

[long wharf]

it really isn't

[simple scaffold]

I value the satisfaction factor, aproduct of the feeling of joy I get when something works and how difficult it is to make it work

[quick plover]

I know a guy who runs only trauma and swears by it, so I cant say its bad, but it just doesnt feel as satisfying or sound imo

[mild tartan]

they should make a laser beam staff. You just charge up a big ass laser beam and it shoots across the entire room and you can move it back and forth a bit

[quick plover]

sound in design and usage, not the audio

[simple junco]

There's a few trauma aficionados here

[simple scaffold]

I hated beam staff

just get the recon lasgun

same thing

[quick plover]

but imagine beam that penetrates

[round shuttle]

I tried decently hard to make trauma and it felt like a less damaging, more perils intensive void strike. If they balance out the perils it should feel a bit better but still needs something to make it shine

[jovial frigate]

think i keep the specialist dam?

[simple scaffold]

beam that penetrates 🍆 🥵

[mild tartan]

yeeeeeess

[alpine portal]

yah roll maniac to block

[simple junco]

They could reverse trauma's charge. Have a large range, low damage explosion when you quick cast your secondary, and have a high damage single target explosion if you hold it.

[jovial frigate]

nah if anything i'd reroll maniac to 25

[echo parrot]

What "beam staff" are you speaking of

[flint turtle]

Okay gang it's time to complain about out with a bang

[simple scaffold]

its fine, does it stack with the special attack?

[quick plover]

I want a psyker staff to charge up a Warframe Wisp 4. Just open a portal to the sun

[simple scaffold]

vermintide 2 had a staff that shot a continuous laser

[glacial abyss]

hate that fucking [enance fucking hate it i go insane

[simple junco]

Gimme a lenz staff

[mild tartan]

oh no way lol, didnt know that

[flint turtle]

I have EVERYTHING else

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-upset-annoyed-stitch-ugh-gif-16084285

same lmao

[echo parrot]

Ah im good thanks, BFG void staff cant be beat.

[glacial abyss]

change your major dont do game design

[quick plover]

https://tenor.com/view/payaso-eso-el-sad-clown-suicide-jokes-gif-11802936

[glacial abyss]

trust

[flint turtle]

It was good for melting elites

[simple scaffold]

Void is a good staff, I like it a lot. Purge staff is a little more specialized but it's so satisfying to melt a huge horde.

[flint turtle]

Unfortunately this is my passion

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/dreaming-key-smash-kitten-cute-gif-17505545

[echo parrot]

I melt huge hordes since void no problem and can still hit at range.

Big ball make heads go pop and penetrate

[simple scaffold]

change your passion bro

[quick plover]

OH LORDIE

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-void-beckons-acceptance-when-you-accept-gif-22700010

[quick plover]

Looks like we're becoming a trauma main tonight lads

[glacial abyss]

just trust me theres a lot of high school goons who love game design and then realize only 1 of them will survive

only one of you will make it

[flint turtle]

Dear god emperor the demons are getting to this one they're speaking in tongues! ( bad grammar)

[glacial abyss]

its like naruto chunin exams

[flint turtle]

Void no problem still hit range

[echo parrot]

You will grow out of it once you realize it is not only absolute hell to get into this industry, but once you get in you get treated worse with less pay and more expected hours for the "chance to follow your passion"

[glacial abyss]

my roommate was the successful game design major

everyone else was a failure and hes still grinding

[echo parrot]

If you decide to keep that route, do it indie on the side.

Otherwise welcome to hell

[glacial abyss]

too many goons play nintendo/anime games and then want to become game design major

[simple scaffold]

Im in my 30s, I have multiple friends who went into the industry. None of them stayed.

[glacial abyss]

dont do it! we will make fun of u (everyone in college)

[flint turtle]

The college program I'm in requires me to work for Ea, Ubisoft, or rock star, on the bright side my college is payed for

[glacial abyss]

very true. i have a friend who works for riot (league of legends) and he hates it

and hes literally the goat

[simple scaffold]

Ruff

[echo parrot]

If your college is free then fuck it, free college is free college. So long as you get some sort of softdev experience from it you can flex that degree into other places if it doesnt work out.

Code is code

[simple scaffold]

Its okay to let your passions be hobbies and just work a career with agreeable terms to suit your desired lifestyle

[alpine portal]

maybe he hates it because he is a goat working at a computer all day 🙂

[simple junco]

A lot of the creative industry really isn't what they make it out to be early on lol

[flint turtle]

Yee it's a nice deal

[glacial abyss]

yeah alot of people say game design is their passion and then die

[quick plover]

They really took a goat out of the wild and sat it infront of a computer. Explains allot about league tbh

[flint turtle]

And also don't tell me what to do with my life >:P

[glacial abyss]

very true

[simple scaffold]

I work a corporate minion job. The work is boring, but they treat us very well. The terms are quite agreeable to me

[glacial abyss]

im warning u since u a high school goon

return to us in 4 years

[simple junco]

Yeah, had a few buddies get into copywriting and they didn't realize that doing a bastardized version of what they loved to do would hurt so much.

[tight saddle]

Yep, all my friends in the video game industry hate it and the passion for their dream job disappeared through the soul crushing reality that is the video game industry. As opportunities arise they've all been leaving the industry.

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/why-arewe-still-here-mgs-video-game-helicopter-gif-17583797

[echo parrot]

I am a stranger on the internet, you are supposed to listen to everything I say and do exactly what i tell you to do.

[glacial abyss]

true!

[flint turtle]

True true!

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/i-completely-agree-i-agree-agree-thanos-thanos-talk-gif-22629453

[simple scaffold]

Become radicalized by us

[glacial abyss]

yes

[flint turtle]

Anyways out with a bang am I right

[simple scaffold]

and our advice to pursue a sensible career in accounting

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-23505693

yes stay as a video game player

and become a supervillain

https://tenor.com/view/embiid-gif-20060970

[simple scaffold]

Once you see how the sausage gets made you may lose your appetite

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-drink-tyrion-lannister-got-gif-14558986

[flint turtle]

Psyker is probably my favorite archetype but least favorite to play

[quick plover]

I miss the days before I cleaned bakeries

[glacial abyss]

psyker is my favorite because u kill people with your brain

and u talk more than anyone else

ong,

[idle bay]

Zealot makes more noises , but use less words

[tight saddle]

For me it's the opposite, I don't care for casters especially not 40K ones, but Psyker is too fun.

[simple scaffold]

Psyker is really satisfying, but it takes more effort to play well

[glacial abyss]

psyker better they go psyker mode

[echo parrot]

The passion of working on games dissipates as you work on projects that arent yours, on tasks you dont like or overall agree with, and have to try and play hells kitchen between marketing, the execs, and the other department leads to try and duct tape something together that makes everyone at least partially satisfied.

[glacial abyss]

yeah i hate spellcasters they smell horrid but psyker u go crazy

[simple scaffold]

ogryn is hard to play horribly

[mild tartan]

sup Wyck

[echo parrot]

Not everyone gets to be a lead designer

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-umbrella-academy-we-died-died-coffee-sips-tea-gif-15597025

[idle bay]

Eating an elk ... not so bad actually 🙂

[simple scaffold]

Gmaes are a business too, and a lucrative one

[flint turtle]

Well it's not like I don't know what I'm getting into, I did research, and technically the course I'm taking is about story design, writing and what not, I've done a few projects ( I know my about me says Soon but that's from like a year ago lol)

[simple scaffold]

cosmetic shops make up a ton of the revenue

[idle bay]

@mild tartan can go for couple of missions, i've got a god-roll Purge staff 🙂

[echo parrot]

Do not even a full designer, but just a narrative designer.

[simple scaffold]

I truly wish you the best! I hope you find success and fulfillment in your career.

[mild tartan]

ooh have you got pick n mix yet? I'll be down in a little bit technically in a meeting rn lol

[glacial abyss]

u should be listening to all of us all of our opinions are powerful

me and scott and annabelle all say the truth at the same time its really an unbeatable technique

[flint turtle]

Max price for a video game has been sixty bucks since the horror that was E. T on the Atari,

I don't mind Micro transactions, they need to at least break equal even if it does break the will of the art team

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiju-gamescage-the-thing-akiyama-yakuza-gif-20601032

[idle bay]

I'm not going for that penance 🙂 No more stress for me this year and at least up until end of holidays

[flint turtle]

Rip epic games art team, you will be swiftly replaced

[simple scaffold]

Its hard being right all the time

[glacial abyss]

very true!

[echo parrot]

Ah good, they learned one of the hardest lessons already.

The only people that arent replaceable are the grey beards and the names with 10+ titles under their belt.

[mild tartan]

hahaha I respect that, Psyker penance stress levels are too high

[flint turtle]

Thank you

[echo parrot]

Cute

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[idle bay]

Sacred Omnissiah rites that i had to perform recently on very critically improtant server made me mentally scarred and not able to take in any more stress for while 🙂 So i'm just chilling , testing Fire stuff and perfecting my axe techniques

[flint turtle]

I bet you'll never figure out how I feel about spell casters

[errant prism]

the trick is to ||have terrible teammates that ignore elites||

[jovial frigate]

not wrong

[idle bay]

I helped 9 psykers to get "Going out with a bang!"

[flint turtle]

Design wise it just rubs me wrong

[errant prism]

i have every penance except for that one lmfao

i got 2 specials and an elite and that doesnt count

[glacial abyss]

I hate going out with a bang

Literally most retarded stupid ass penance

literally the suicide penance

[flint turtle]

Same it is the last challenge I need to 100% the game

[glacial abyss]

“die for this achievement”

[long wharf]

try doing it on Malice instead of Heresy

[errant prism]

i like how ppl complained nonstop a out the boss solo and it… really wasnt that bad

whats a heresy

i go for it in damnation because i hate myself

[long wharf]

sounds like it

[idle bay]

And it's really not that hard. And on some maps you can do it right at the start.

[flint turtle]

Ah look at you already striving to be a member of the dark angels

[tight saddle]

Just practice out with a bang in the meat grinder and you'll easily get it in game. Practice your damage values in the meat grinder so you know how much damage you need to do before you blow up on them.

[flint turtle]

Oh yeah it's not hard, just

[errant prism]

tedious

encourages inting

[idle bay]

... really annoying to do. And require teammates help

Best done on Gunners and Shotgunners. Ragers and Maulers require some prescise preparation to get blown-off

Ahem... phrasing!

[lament topaz]

Discord, what do you mean I can't use the server's emojis in the server without Nitro?

[errant prism]

[flint turtle]

Pay to play bb

[errant prism]

i like how the overload explosion kills almost nothing on high diff

[lament topaz]

I was gonna do the Rock eyebrow Ogryn thing, but it won't let me.

[errant prism]

where u need to do the penance

[quick plover]

Ive heard plasma guns apparentl able to get out with a bang too

[idle bay]

Any canadian siblings here? Do you guys eat elk meat? Just tried one - really neat thing.

[errant prism]

wtf i main vet now

[quick plover]

dunno if its more damage but definitely someone thats done it

[ripe ridge]

Was there a change to the Force Sword/ Bulwark interaction? 1 seems to do far less damage than it used too. 2. used to be able to special attack it through the shield. was risky. 3. used to stagger it . now... not so much on any of it.

[thick carbon]

I met another Psyker a few minutes ago who was adorable and I felt like I had to protect them cuz they were like level 12 and trying to do a Heresy mission 🥺

[simple junco]

In my native tongue we have a saying for that

"rip"

[keen belfry]

did they make it?

[thick carbon]

they did. managed to make it with only two or three downs total

[alpine portal]

I think that's terminal 😄

[keen belfry]

i hope they got a gold axe... from zaddy emprah

[flint turtle]

Ewwww paint your minis

[idle bay]

I met level 15 Psyker in Heresy mission. He had full Penance Gear!!! So i payed my respects to him and he admitted that he had no life!

[lament topaz]

Is Cadia the only planet that gives special lines or no?

[alpine portal]

Never

[thick carbon]

I hope so too. They worked so hard and made me proud

[alpine portal]

My guy keeps talking how how cool tershium shops were... idk what I chose

[idle bay]

I had a cool Psyker moment yesterday.
After i tanked Deamonhost party Ogryn said:" But... but i have a shield!"

[lament topaz]

I wonder... can I parry a DH?

[idle bay]

And zealot said: Badass Psyker tanked a host!

I Cherish that moment 🙂

[lament topaz]

If I can parry a Hound, surely I can parry a DH.

[thick carbon]

love those moments hehe

[errant prism]

do any of u hate urself enough to use trauma staff? and if so what perks n stuff?

[thick carbon]

my hate for the trauma staff somehow exceeds my self-loathing. and it takes a lot to do that

[errant prism]

the pain makes you stronger

wait thats zealot

[idle bay]

I briefly used it on low levels and once used it later by mistake.... It's not THAT bad. Low-charge vs trash, high charge vs armor

[errant prism]

i swear it has to be bugged or something

[thick carbon]

also wtf is this axe I just got xD

[errant prism]

when two attacks max peril with a max peril gen roll

[idle bay]

It's MK V or bust!

[simple junco]

Are we still on the hunt for the blazing spirit/bloodthirsty FS?

[long wharf]

I know I am

[simple junco]

Same. Feels nice hunting for a weapon again lol

[errant prism]

i though blazing was bad

[idle bay]

Does Bloodthirsty actually do anything? It did nothing on chainsword for me

[simple junco]

This combo is moreso to test out if you can make FS a diet purgatus and run another staff

[glacial abyss]

supervillain

[glacial abyss]

i use an unoptimized build for entertainment purposes

[errant prism]

i didnt feel like BS was rly doing anything lol

[simple junco]

More or less. AB gives a 10% chance if something dies while on fire through soulblaze, and melee is a very consistent way to proc that 10% chance. Kill two birds with one stone with 100% crit chance, plus running KO would shred specials too.

[glacial abyss]

very cool i love blazing spirit

delicious

[hoary shadow]

wow

[glacial abyss]

are you related to the american idol contestant

just curious

[errant prism]

the what now

[glacial abyss]

seal

selkie

the original selkie

seal

selkie = seal = american idol

[simple junco]

True, howeverrrr that's why we're trying to find a sword with bloodthirsty (100% crit chance) and blazing spirit

[errant prism]

[mild tartan]

hows the mk 2 axe? just got a pretty crazy roll on one not sure if the moveset is good or not

[lament topaz]

Why can't we just have "sword"?

[glacial abyss]

i kill to win this game

[keen pawn]

ummm???? force sword is dumb af against mutants?

[simple junco]

Wait what

What difficulty is that set to?

[ebon jolt]

If you have a FS with bloodthirsty won’t everything just be… dead? What would blazing spirit do?

[errant prism]

[keen pawn]

3

[simple junco]

That's what we wanna find out lol

If the attack itself is a crit, does it apply soulblaze before it dies to the oneshot?

And if so, will it still give the AB WC 10% chance

[ebon jolt]

👌

[ornate hamlet]

What is the best perk for voidstrike?

[simple junco]

The one that gives quell on weak spot hit

[ebon jolt]

+25% flak armor

[ornate hamlet]

Perk, not blessing

[simple junco]

Ah, flak.

rip

[idle bay]

I noticed that in Horde situation Purge-something staff mostly quells himself. Is it supposed to work like that ?

[ebon jolt]

10% chance to quell 10% peril on kill. Passive from the class.

Purg kills lots of things.

[simple junco]

Yep, 3/4 charge basically secures a kill on every groaner in T5 with a 15 stack staff.

[shut thorn]

If you drew this, great job

[errant prism]

its from LuzaitisActual on twitter

[idle bay]

Whaaaaat.. 7 Grimoire missions and not a single Scripture mission. Yeah.. right

[bleak tulip]

#psyker-class message

thats the best voidstrike

[idle bay]

I'll be in my bunk (C)

[spare flax]

this could be the case with cahinswords too since all my revved hits on muties kill them. makes sense considering the special attack is very similar in function

[keen pawn]

Anyone gto insight on if Kenetic overload and wrack and ruin a good combo?

[keen pawn]

its gotta be a number bug, like thats not the actual value cus i went into 5 adn it didn't 1 hit, it was 2 but it said 175k

[alpine portal]

pretty sure ruin is considered bad

[spare flax]

ah, np then. the debate of if chainswords are good or not continues then XD

[errant prism]

they bug for me and i end up light attacking after revving

[bleak tulip]

wrack and ruin is dogshit

[errant prism]

force sword just works™️ and gets deflector

ez pick

[bleak tulip]

easily the worst talen psyker has

[idle bay]

Chainswords you say. I'm keeping this one just in case

[keen pawn]

wrack and ruin alone is ye, the 2 stacks do 4 per tick 11 times then a 1 at then end but with extra 4 stack? could be ok?

imma see

ig

[simple junco]

Wrack and ruin has potential. If it gave 2 stacks to everything around you on % chance WC gain I can see it getting more use.

[shut thorn]

I collect them purely for the bloodthirsty blessing they can get so I can later put it on FS/FGS

[alpine portal]

if you really want to run it tho it probbly needs a great dmg purga with high crit and assendent blaze. but it kinda just does nothing

[echo parrot]

Pretty sure you wont be able to cross apply blessings

[keen pawn]

wasn't it 4? stacks and 2 on the other? iirc

[bleak tulip]

why not, as far as we know you store em

and it can roll for both

[keen pawn]

crit with the soul blaze?

[simple junco]

Wrack and Ruin applies 2, KO applies 4. It sucks so much with how it is now.

[shut thorn]

From a coding perspective, making every blessing unique to each weapon seems annoying to do, granted that's the way blessings are rn

[echo parrot]

Store them for weapons of the same type.

[keen pawn]

ah ye

[alpine portal]

it applys more stacks of soul blaze from purga staff

[echo parrot]

Its actually not as difficult as you would think

[simple junco]

Crit with purg applies 1 extra stack of SB

[shut thorn]

This is if they go the lazy route and don't remove the spaghetti code causing the problem in the first place

[keen pawn]

2 kills

[shut thorn]

What am I looking at? Wrack and ruin?

[jovial frigate]

what is this supposed to be

[idle bay]

I thought "spaghetti code" was Bungie exclusive thing

[keen pawn]

11 ticks of that + 1 being 1

[simple junco]

Yeahhh, either SB needs to last longer for you to actually get over to the enemies affected or it Wrack and Ruin needs a total rework lol

[keen pawn]

the soul blaze stacks

[shut thorn]

Industry standard, it's what happens when you force people to program in a specific style even if it's detrimental

[bleak tulip]

and another one learns that soulblaze is kind of shit until you get like 12 stacks

[wanton cove]

“Laughs in dead by daylight”

[simple junco]

Spaghetti code is universal. Was a league thing 13 years ago lol, then CS before that.

[keen pawn]

yup, its ass. I been trying all characters and not really focusing one

[wanton cove]

You want spaghetti code? They have tons

[shut thorn]

Some were unironically arguing here earlier that cloud size is more important than burn on purg

🙃

[wanton cove]

It’s just visually satisfying to me XD

[bleak tulip]

like, ascendant blaze is less shit but thats because you can get stacks off it as well lol

[simple junco]

Bungie exclusive spaghetti code is called "Telesto"

[shut thorn]

AB actually has a use, unlike wrack and ruin

[idle bay]

Don't mention Telesto casually. You know what will happen next 🙂

[bleak tulip]

yeah my point is you dont use it for the SB, its a nice bonus

[alpine portal]

if fs quell movement speed was increased it might be worth iot

[keen pawn]

been using this before the SB try out, this seems ok?

[simple junco]

It already took over D2 once, I'm sure it's sated for now

[shut thorn]

you know I don't actually remember ever trying wrack and ruin in network beta

[idle bay]

It thirsts.. it's always thirsts

[keen pawn]

I was thinking maybe the 6 stack charges

[shut thorn]

Kinetic Barrage is only useful if you're trying to get pick n mix ngl

[keen pawn]

but that random 10% has saved me many times lol

[shut thorn]

AB just flat out does more

[glacial abyss]

true!!!!!

[keen pawn]

Oh i use it all the time, i always have max stacks lol

[simple junco]

Tbh, I use this build for Purg with a few changes to 5 10 and 20

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042791141441019934/1054849654874964088/ezgif-4-07a415a73f.gif

[simple junco]

KB is great if your vet is being shit on and you gotta take matters into your own hands

[bleak tulip]

kinetic helps you deal with spikes in elites when your team has issues

its the best 30 for general purpose

[simple junco]

Can't always trust your team, gotta bridge the gap somehow

Especially if you run purgatus

[idle bay]

So here i am, couple of hours left to play before going to sleep and waking for work at 5:30 am. Just wanting to play at least 1 scripture mission. ANd game be like - nope , best i can do is 7 grimoire missions.

[keen pawn]

its nice for multiple bulwarks ect, quick ez kills

[shut thorn]

equip knife/deflector fs

🙃

[bleak tulip]

if I absolutely need that crusher gone barrage is the only good way

[simple junco]

If I could run a knife primary I would

[simple junco]

In all seriousness, you still gotta take care of the threat if your team is being dumpstered lol

The saved time is literally lifesaving

[keen pawn]

So hows quicken? Is it just as good?

[keen belfry]

its cool on voidstaff

[keen pawn]

I am on it

[keen belfry]

get in trouble just aim at ur feet

[bleak tulip]

quicken is a waste of charges

[simple junco]

If we find that specific blazing spirit/bloodthirsty FS, we can probably evaluate if AB is worth taking over KB

[bleak tulip]

if you rely that much on your F to quell youre doing something wrong imo

[keen pawn]

i mean... its my only staff but lol

[simple junco]

I think quicken is pretty good for trauma, but that's about it

[bleak tulip]

thats just because trauma has god awful peril gain

[simple junco]

Ye

[bleak tulip]

i.e. the weapon sucks

[simple junco]

Na

[round jay]

honnestlky kinetic barage sound good but it is trash

[keen belfry]

quicken my bad thats the speed one right?

ya not good on void

[simple junco]

KB being useful depends on if the user likes BB or not lol

[keen pawn]

Its potentially a 50% cool down on each one so what. a 20%ish brain burst hit?

[long wharf]

frankly, I only really use my ult to avoid blowing up

[bleak tulip]

I dont like BB and I use it, because its the best way to use BB

[simple junco]

If you don't like BB, AB is the no brainer. If you run a specific short ranged staff, chances are you'll use BB a bit more.

[round jay]

either way, the boost is only the 25% part since you can spam bb by going 100% and then quell down to 95% and then use it again. 25% faster charge only for 10s is bad

[keen pawn]

but it only does it once?

[long wharf]

incorrect, if you don't want to lose your warp charges when you ult, KB is the no-brainer

[summer prairie]

it says it's 25% but it's more

[simple junco]

Run peril resist and KB and you can take care of 5 high pri targets instead of 2

[round jay]

BB, quell for 1s, BB, quell for 1s

[simple junco]

Oh true

[inland sand]

KB is pretty good, it's got some nice applications

[bleak tulip]

thats pretty much why i dont like either of the other 30 choices yeah

[inland sand]

I use it on voidstrike and surge

[round jay]

yeah, if the sharpshooter doesn't kill them before I charge 50% of my bb

[bleak tulip]

^ this is the other reason

[long wharf]

the only time I don't use KB is when running purge

[mild tartan]

hows the moveset on this one? been stuck on my mk v forever want to switch it up and this roll was great

[inland sand]

I like the Rashad's animations a lot

the heavy chained on it is great

[simple junco]

AB is great and all on Purg, but dang. I feel like KB is a bit more effective at alleviating the big threats a bit faster.

If the crit burn FS works the way we think it does, maybe I'll run AB waaay more.

[inland sand]

another blessing I have never seen

still waiting for Deflector over here

[bleak tulip]

youre probably gonna be disappointed

[fresh reef]

worth upgrading?

[bleak tulip]

could be better

finesse and first target matter a lot

but I guess on a knife you cant have everything

oh that blessing

isnt the best either tbh

I think lacerate is just better

[summer prairie]

finesse and first target are the most important stats on the dagger

[vagrant cedar]

oh shit

oh shit

[ornate hamlet]

Ooo, I'm mad jelly

[simple junco]

Yo that's really good. Hope you roll nexus

[mint heart]

I think I'm gonna lose my mind with these low base swords

[vagrant cedar]

🤞

meh

MEH

why teh hell do you need more stamina on a staff

like

what

[bleak tulip]

since mobility and warp resist are dump stats anyway, rating doesnt really matter as much

[simple junco]

What's the minimum mobility you need to push a poxburster away and stay safe?

[bleak tulip]

not a lot

[mint heart]

Yeah these are my "best swords"

Everytime I upgrade I get some nonesense blessing

[bleak tulip]

I mean its a matter of a few weeks before you can just change that you know

the base stats on them are fine

[warped perch]

What does warp resist even do

[bleak tulip]

more or less nothing

[mint heart]

I fully expect them to fuck us over with blessings

[bleak tulip]

minor change in warp gain from the charge

its entirely negligible imo

[simple junco]

On FS, I'm pretty sure if affects the amount of peril you generate when using your alt.

[warped perch]

[mint heart]

I have seen them only affect your special attack and it's kinda a lot if you are using it alot

[simple junco]

But yeah, I feel your pain. Haven't seen a single bloodthirsty or blazing spirit

And I need both on a single sword

[bleak tulip]

[simple junco]

The only reason you might need a decent warp resistance is if you need to solo kill two mutants ASAP on T5. It's situational, but it does happen I suppose

[mint heart]

I like to kill flak ragers with charged light attacks

since them come out faster and one shot on headshots at damn

only being able to use it 3 times is kinda low

[simple junco]

Oh true, forgot that purg isn't always an option lol

[mint heart]

It's really not that bad. Both are dump stats for sure

[bleak tulip]

there you go

[near wyvern]

There is not a single answer for what is good though. Depending on your build you might want to have high peril generation or low. You can anyways chain it with high perils by quelling just a bit.

[vagrant cedar]

@shut thorn

[simple junco]

Currently hawking the shop for a low mobility FS to see how low we can reasonably dump it

[mint heart]

yeah, the same I showed in the pictures. I'm not arguing that it is important, just showing how much a 28% against a 78% difference is
33,8% per special against 13,8% per special

[bleak tulip]

mobility is even smaller of a difference tbh

[mint heart]

Yeah for me it goes Finesse = First Target > Damage > Warp > Mobility

[simple junco]

It's more or less the same thing as running KB. I.e: "do you use it often enough to justify it"

[bleak tulip]

dodge distance changes so minimally between 80 and 56 its just not even worth considering on FS

[simple junco]

Tru. I just know that 0 mobility on certain weapons won't dodge you far enough from a poxburster if you push it away.

[mint heart]

Especially with unlimited dodge

[simple junco]

I thiiink FS is one of those weapons. Not entirely sure, just wanna know.

[inland sand]

I can 100% confirm this

[mint heart]

I managed to do it with 28%

[inland sand]

certain weapons cannot dodge far enough back after a poxburster push

[alpine portal]

any one else getting downed at full health? just me?

happend 3 times today

no sniper

[simple junco]

Patch Notes:

• Gave Scab Snipers suppressors

[bleak tulip]

overhead crusher?

[alpine portal]

game is just like your doing too well go down.

[simple junco]

• Added active camouflage to crushers

[alpine portal]

feels like perils of warp going off and server lag happens at 90%

[azure ice]

Surge staff good?

[alpine portal]

but no animation and everything around is fine

[simple junco]

That does seem pretty weird. Maybe stop by the meat grinder and see if it happens there?

[alpine portal]

crusher was stunned at the time from bb

[bleak tulip]

does it play the peril explosion sound or something

because I htink there is still some remnant instant explosions with some staves

[alpine portal]

no but does not happen to me when im not close to the edge

[simple junco]

Depends. If you're spamming it into a horde, no. If you're using it to systematically stunlock big targets from overwhelming your frontline, yes.

[alpine portal]

kinda feels like Im sprinting as a vet when my peril is high or something

[spare flax]

there used to be a thing in VT2 if you got enough dmg reduction you could survive an overcharge boom at full health. they should bring that back, maybe something like a perk "your first peril explosion puts you to 10hp instead

[pearl thicket]

just don’t kill yourself

[alpine portal]

its all in computer so no lagg? * i mean local

[simple junco]

It would probably be seen as a crutch or a meme if that were the case, with how the community is.

[pearl thicket]

it’s totally a meme

[simple junco]

Could be. Trying it out in the grinder could isolate it to a server issue and not a client issue.

[alpine portal]

a fun meme make going out with a bag viable

[echo parrot]

How many people in here put a lot of thought into their choices during character creation. I chose Cadia/Self Reliance/Black Ships because I wanted to roleplay that she seemed like one of the luckiest fuckers in the galaxy surviving so much shit somehow.

[bleak tulip]

also whoever asked how void crit works earlier today, it rolls the crit per charge not per target

[alpine portal]

If no one else is having the issue it must be something on my side, suddnly I suck really bad or something

[spare flax]

perhaps, but compaining is human nature. what matters is it would be a useful perk which is few and far between right now

[pearl thicket]

no it wouldn’t

it’s 10 hp

just add abandon from vt2 unchained

or don’t add it and stop blowing up

[simple junco]

If it also removed toughness, as most explosions do, you'd be in a really rough spot too.

[spare flax]

there was some datamining about suclasses. it would make sense to add an unchained type psyker. would be very fun if done right

[simple junco]

That's unfortunate. Maybe hard restart your system?

[alpine portal]

maybe its been a while

[wanton cove]

Yes I quite enjoy creating my characters backstory 🙌

[vagrant cedar]

0

[simple junco]

I'd think quite a few, obviously depending on the person

[vagrant cedar]

it has 0 impact tho

why would you waste time on it

[spiral lion]

because they want to?

[simple junco]

Because it's a game and people enjoy doing stuff

[spiral lion]

because it's warhammer with wast universe?

[vagrant cedar]

i mean if you're into roleplay, sure

[glacial abyss]

True I put a lot of time into backstory as well

this is a warhammer game u can’t avoid people wanting to larp

[simple junco]

Quite a few people like to feel connected to their characters. Leads to more immersion.

Plus yeah, the nature of warhammer encourages getting immersed in the lore.

[vagrant cedar]

I'd be curious to see how many are into that tbh

[alpine portal]

I wish you could see it

[echo parrot]

I created a new psyker just to be more imersed in a backstory

[alpine portal]

post creation

[echo parrot]

Even though I have like 200+ hours on my old psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Same here, except with my vet. Street urchin who became a gangster and then joined up with the military

[simple junco]

We can just react to a message asking how many people like roleplaying to do rudimentary user testing if that's your goal

[blissful torrent]

hi, Does the staff worth it today?

[ornate hamlet]

My psyker just went a little crazy hearing voices and all that haha

[wanton cove]

Because I like feeling connected to my characters 👀 it makes me feel more connected to my character putting some conscious effort into their lore

[simple junco]

I literally did the same thing. Deleted my first psyker because I didn't like the name, voice, and backstory lol.

[wanton cove]

I’m into more warhammer then just Darktide. So it’s not like some random game I just picked up out of the blue. I love the lore of it all 💯

[wanton cove]

SAME. I picked that crazy dude voice with the beloved. Soooo unbearable

[echo parrot]

I also made myself as short as possible and decided that I was a redheaded shortstack with unrealistic luck

[exotic mason]

Boyz, so how exactly does surge staff works? It seems so rng to me

[robust meteor]

first target takes full final damage, a random second target will take full final damage. everything else is just the stun damage

[blissful torrent]

so does the surge staff today is good ?

[alpine portal]

so purga is useless against assassination target huh?

[exotic mason]

Only melee is good against assassination

[wanton cove]

Omf

Your name has def triggered some ppl @alpine portal 🤣

[simple junco]

All 4 melee rushing the target is great until T5, then you need ONE person thinning out the horde/clearing snipers.

[alpine portal]

it was that or "I play psyker like a zelot"

[proud hinge]

I just upgraded to legend and got deflector on it, this is so good

just gotta reroll sprint

[vagrant cedar]

i mean i get that but if the choices don't make impact in the game, like cgi movies or scenarios or dialogs, it kinda looks pointless to me cause it makes 0 difference, i can't connect with that

[blissful torrent]

and the staff?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, as psyker I typically let the other 3 deal with the assassination and focus on keeping the enemies away from them

[wanton cove]

To each their own!

[vagrant cedar]

amen

[wanton cove]

Same I be on add clear

Throw some fs specials in when (if) there’s a moment of peace lol

[ornate hamlet]

Wait you don't know about the secret alternate cut scenes?

[simple junco]

Ye. It's unwise to assume the greater majority swings one way or the other, but ultimately you do you lol.

[exotic mason]

Also, what melee is best with surge?

[simple junco]

Wait, backstory does affect some dialogue tho

[exotic mason]

Something with horde clear I think?

[alpine portal]

thats what I did on this run, seemd like it went better, light attacks on shield if nothing was arround

[vagrant cedar]

Lmfaooo

you get the same crappy ass 5 cgi cutscenes

[robust meteor]

it can be paired with any melee. pick what playstyle you like

[wanton cove]

@alpine portal yeah I run Voidstrike so I’m much better keeps the adds off of the damage dealers

[simple junco]

Instead of being 42 seconds late, you're 45 seconds late depending on your backstory

[alpine portal]

did the same with purga

[alpine portal]

and she actually kills you, make a new chacter

[robust meteor]

dueling sword, fs, antax, devils claw all good choices

[ornate hamlet]

dual wield power swords

[alpine portal]

id like to see that on zelot

[simple junco]

Equip 2 purgatus staves

[alpine portal]

no block, just attack

[robust meteor]

ogryn dual shields

[alpine portal]

only for the "smartest" orgyns

[simple junco]

Real Dark Souls 2 hours

[alpine portal]

does shread trigger on chain weapon specials?

[robust meteor]

anyone know the numbers on devils claw parry?

[nimble burrow]

is it possible to roll both these blessings lmao

[hot field]

what is ' wounds ' ?

keep seeing it on curios

[proud hinge]

What should I try to get instead of this perk?

[cyan notch]

the number of segments in your health bar (doesnt increase health) basically the number of times u can go down before dying

[mint heart]

Check for breakpoints if none go block eff.

[hot field]

ohhhh

is that good thing for you?

[cyan notch]

depends on how often you go down

[proud hinge]

What breakpoints

[mint heart]

Dunno what difficulty you are playing

[proud hinge]

damnation

[digital pagoda]

10% elite damage

[simple junco]

Depends on the person. If you go down with base wounds you'll see a saturated screen. I personally don't like seeing it, so I run +1 wounds just in case something happens lol

[proud hinge]

nice, got that this on my first roll

ty

[digital pagoda]

Theres another one for 10 damage, but I don't think it's worth to keep rerolling

[proud hinge]

Yeah

[crisp yacht]

thats a juicy sword. probably going to use it for a long time. i would go for the extra 2%

[cyan notch]

this is only the case when ur on your last wound (heresy and damnation)

where u only get 2

[mint heart]

Well breakpoints in number of hits you need to kill against specific enemies. As far as I can tell elite dmg does pretty much nothing since you need the same amount of hits anyway.

[pearl thicket]

I was concerned someone recommended elite dmg but I didn’t care enough to get hive minded

[mint heart]

For example dreg ragers are almost in one shot range, so trying to go for maniac or weak spot damage for example can make a two shot into a one shot

[cyan notch]

u can see if 25% maniac lets you 1 shot dreg ragers

[proud hinge]

Ahh I see. Thank you for the suggestion

[cyan notch]

or even mutant

[proud hinge]

One shot with alternative fire?

is that what you meant

[mint heart]

Yes

[proud hinge]

oooo

[cyan notch]

special yes

[mint heart]

I have seen a break point against infected with the heavy cleave attack.

[cyan notch]

(with headshot and heavy charge)

[proud hinge]

Should I just keep rerolling until I get maniac damage?

[mint heart]

300 hp headshots

You can try if you got the mats. If it's not enough just reroll something else.

[proud hinge]

👍

[hot field]

is warp flurry what you want on flame staff?

[simple junco]

Warp nexus blessing + 5% ranged crit chance perk

[hot field]

Oof

[hollow steeple]

is brutal momentum even any good on tac axes?
it seems like you don't have many attacks that would cleave particularly well

[hot field]

Don’t have warp nexus

Anyone have tip to get cliffhanger done

[pearl thicket]

it gave it to me for launching the game on 1.0

in the mourningstar

[hollow steeple]

the mission with two bridges going into a small room with a cogitator at the end of the level
group up some enemies on the bridge and push them off the bridge

[simple junco]

You know that mission where you interrogate a system that's closed off except for two bridges leading to it? Sit at one of the bridges and press F.

[pearl thicket]

chasm logistratum raid is easier I’ve heard

[hot field]

Got an idea where it is but forgot what map

[leaden pier]

so what's the appeal of the combat axe?

[pearl thicket]

it’s fun

[leaden pier]

for what

[pearl thicket]

movetech

fast attacks

[simple junco]

Vigil Station Oblivium

[pearl thicket]

good dodge

fun

[exotic mason]

Smelter end event is good too

[simple junco]

Had to find a youtube video lol

[leaden pier]

ah just general use

[exotic mason]

Drop em in hole in the middle

[pearl thicket]

veteran

[pearl thicket]

veteran player

[simple junco]

Just gonna put those there just in case

[pearl thicket]

player on the veteran class

[exotic mason]

Since veterans can blow up and do Going out with the Bang penance, they are honorary psykers I guess

[hallow obsidian]

[lean stream]

Just like Psykers are honorary veterans considering I got the Serial Killer achievement as one

[copper raft]

that hp...

[leaden pier]

conglaturations

[vagrant cedar]

but first, let me take a selfie

[leaden pier]

also i learned the beast's slime it leaves on the ground lets you slide further on it

[exotic mason]

Yeah, but it still builds corruption like a bitch

[simple junco]

Risky slip n' slide

[elfin roost]

"Hey look guys Im using the slip n sli- oh.. I got HIV"

[fierce hazel]

[leaden pier]

classic nurgle

[full leaf]

my dream is not for u

[blissful torrent]

does that perk is usefull ? against unyielding enemies? because +20% of almost nothing is... nothing xD

[alpine portal]

un yeilding is rare type

[blissful torrent]

yes mainly bosses

[elfin roost]

They really teach you to have faith in your allies

Faith theyll die

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah on a voidstrike that perk is like

Almost useless imo

Better off going for extra damage against flak, even, just for the sake of clearing shooters more effectively

[blissful torrent]

unarmoured enemies you mean?

[ornate hamlet]

That would work but no, I mean flak because thats what the scab shooters have

[blissful torrent]

i just got that perk with +20% dmg on unarmoured enemies

+8% ranged dmg against specialist sounds better

[flint turtle]

AHHHHH I hate out with a bang

At least most of the challenges don't directly hurt the team, meanwhile there is a psyker challenge that actually tells you to kill yourself

[copper raft]

yeah it's an awful penance

[ornate hamlet]

Try to gather unarmored ragers, brainburst them each 1 time, and then explode

Really easy if you have a cooperative shield ogryn

[alpine portal]

They made that exclusivly for me 🙂

[flint turtle]

I've gotten every single achievement in the game but out with a bang

(Steam achievements)

[twilit flicker]

it would be helpful to your team if you think about it that way, but all they see is "psykers down ... again"

[flint turtle]

Considering you turn yourself into a slightly stronger vet grenade with a smaller aoe. No, no it's not helpful in anyway

[copper raft]

the way i did it was a bit cheesy, i had a friend and i just play on a private game on malice difficulty, and there was a horde + a spam of elites just gathering, i just got out of my way to damage and apply dots on them all and then blew myself up.

[flint turtle]

I shouldn't need to cheese it

Didn't cheese anything else

[mild surge]

simple qeustion. how many head pops for a charger on heresy?

[twilit flicker]

comparing doesn't help, would it be better to die or go out with a bang?

[flint turtle]

Chargers are in left for dead smh

[mild surge]

lol

[flint turtle]

Not a real fan

[mild surge]

muties

they charge.. so charger:

[flint turtle]

Depending on warp charges 3 - 2

[copper raft]

you shouldnt have to cheese, sure, but sadly they are tailored to be kind of orchestrated in a goofy way. like the kill a boss with brainburst only challenge lol

[mild surge]

had 4

[copper raft]

it's sloppy design

[flint turtle]

Oddly didn't cheese the boss one

Damnnation matches are wild

2 men vs a hive city

[copper raft]

yeah? how'd you get yours, i got lucky and some pub psyker offered to tank a daemonhost for me

didnt ask for it

[flint turtle]

Just happened to have an orgyn with a slab shield two dead zealots and a daemonhost

[copper raft]

that's good

[twilit flicker]

its almost like they intended for us to have jolly co-operation to get some of these done

[tulip gorge]

The real pain:

[flint turtle]

Didn't even ask, it just happened out of necessity

[flint turtle]

Yeah I hope they change it

[tulip gorge]

🤞

[flint turtle]

And this comes from someone that enjoys doing every shot counts

[twilit flicker]

honestly me too, but for different reasons lol

[flint turtle]

( I do hope they add a war zone condition where ammo is super rare)

[lament topaz]

As a Vet with a shotgun, I hope they do not.

[twilit flicker]

that would just make anyone who uses a gun cry

[alpine yoke]

Bruh

I have a question for my rando teammates

WHY THE FUCK YOU JUST HAVE TO PICK UP THE DAMN GRIMOIRE

[copper raft]

hate the game not the player

why are grimoires the way they are currently?

[alpine yoke]

4 times

[lament topaz]

Are you going to ask every single chat that question?

[copper raft]

answer: fuck if i know

[alpine yoke]

like 4 times

we had it

but some kid just had to

we are at the boss room and everyone was at 30% hp

why

[mild surge]

now its too easyt

ha XD

[flint turtle]

I main vet ( infantry auto gun user) and I still want a condition that makes ammo more rare

[lament topaz]

I use my shotgun like I'm an Ogryn.

Shoot it a lot because it make boomy sound.

[alpine yoke]

"Oh i'm level 30 I need them 600 extra xp"

bruh

[lament topaz]

I will find every excuse to shoot the shotgun.

Be it a horde or 1 poxwalker.

[keen pawn]

[flint turtle]

Hey look at the bright side, the data miners figured out the next zealot class will heal 0.5 corruption per second to allies in coherency

[alpine yoke]

Or shoot me in the head plz i'm in such pain

[lament topaz]

No.

[alpine yoke]

plz

[lament topaz]

No.

[copper raft]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[lament topaz]

I shall not send your pained soul through the Warp to tickle Slaanesh's pickles.

[alpine yoke]

Nah i love papa nurgle

[lament topaz]

We both know Dadd- I mean, Grandfather Nurgle wouldn't be getting your soul.

[alpine yoke]

He'll give me the power of PICKING UP THAT FUCKING BOOK

[lament topaz]

No.

[dense cloud]

grandpapy nurgle wil give you the sicknis for the thicniss

[alpine yoke]

He loves me

[dense cloud]

the rot for the shot and that shiver for the quiver 😄

[elfin roost]

Thats when he pairs his powers with Slaanesh

[lament topaz]

If she can't use her thighs like a Psyker, I don't want her.

[cyan notch]

what

[lament topaz]

Think about it.

[leaden pier]

should i get this from melk's?