psyker-class

[simple junco]

It's a single aspect that causes a team to lose

[devout belfry]

That's still incredibly ambiguous

[simple junco]

It's the combination of each wipe condition that causes difficulty

Like add a horde + 3 crushers + 5 gunners

[long wharf]

so, you're talking about on damnation

[devout belfry]

Every melee weapon can deal with the horde honestly.

[long wharf]

if you can't rely on your team, you aren't going to succeed in damnation, period

you playing purge vs surge isn't going to change that

[devout belfry]

It's what's in it and all the shooters behind it.

[simple junco]

True, it's opening up space to deal with the rest of the stuff that's important as well.

[mint heart]

Individual player skill trumps all

[plain talon]

Done "Going Out With A Bang" yesterday and "Malleum Monstronum" today, both with premade groups, but "Pick n Mix" can go die in a fire as far as I'm concerned

What a bullshit penance

[buoyant mantle]

if it does hurt you, I sincerely apologize mate
don't take game shit talk too seriously 👍

[simple junco]

True, getting gud is really what's gonna help your team out the best lol.

[devout belfry]

Took us forever. Looks like it's bugged and requires 6 kills

[long wharf]

yup, my most hated penance

[simple junco]

It's more or less "what do I want to do here" lol. Some people wanna make space, some wanna stun the big guys.

[plain talon]

I had a moment today where I felt like I should have gotten it

but didn't

[simple junco]

If you do what your weapon specializes in, coolio. That base is covered.

[plain talon]

Eventually exploded cause I couldn't genocide the entire map with BB apparently

[long wharf]

sure, they're for different purposes

comes down to team comp

[devout belfry]

Veteran with a lasgun and one guy that can deal with carapace. The rest is optional.

[gilded sonnet]

@devout belfry A lasgun, AND a good aim.

[long wharf]

counter-point : multiple classes can deal with the horde effectively, but only the psyker with surge staff can literally stop elites from doing anything

[sonic aspen]

I just want my psyker visor

[long wharf]

I always ensure that surge is in the lineup

[simple junco]

Press F to make space. Technically every psyker has the ability to do that lol

[devout belfry]

It's nice to taze bombers too.

[long wharf]

either myself or another psyker, don't care which

[simple junco]

Repeatedly is the main difference

[plain talon]

I always make sure I have something for the hordes, always.

[glossy hazel]

Pretty sure other classes can stop elites from doing anything, by killing them.

[plain talon]

Because I usually get CAWADOOTY mad 360 no scope XII Zealots

[long wharf]

sure, but you don't always have the elites dying immediately

bullshit spawns happen

[plain talon]

That play as a discount Walmart Veteran

[long wharf]

and nothing protects the team from a surprise ogryn rush like surge locking them down

[simple junco]

Lemme just press my intristic "oh shit" button

[lost pike]

Got this as a grey. I need more Diamantine.

[devout belfry]

Surge staff really stops all the various ogryn bullshit.

[long wharf]

the key to repeatable success is reliably mitigating risk

[simple junco]

That's literally your job as a psyker one way or another lol. It's more or less how you go about it.

[devout belfry]

So what penances can still be cheesed/glitched? For any class?

[glossy hazel]

Ogryns aren't really a problem most of the time, they are slow as shit.
Ranged enemies are the problem, plinking you down or that one crack addict with a pipe bonking you on the back of the head.

[long wharf]

not only can surge lock enemies down like no other, it does so without you having to be the best CoD player ever with aiming

you can target enemies behind cover

through your ogryn or other players

from a respectable distance away, no less

surge has the most tactical options for play of all the staves

[lost pike]

All of the staffs do some CC.

[devout belfry]

I wish purge just applied normal burn. Soul burn is ass.

[simple junco]

Do you want far away CC, close range CC, medium range stun, or short range juggle

[plain talon]

Kantrael XII Zealots : "Hey Zealot, you know you have the best crowd clearing weapon in the game?" >>"Yeh, but, uhhh, who's gonna snipe the snipah' if I don't? duh" >"Your Veteran or Psyker will, Zealot." >>"Yeh, but, uhh, muh Veterans are always such trash, they don't take care of snipers." >"That's because your Veteran and Psyker are busy being knee deep in poxwalkers because you decided to be a shittier version of the Veteran, Zealot.".

[long wharf]

yeah, it'd be cool to see burn dot synergy between zealot and psyker

that'd be cool

just like ogryns and zealos can synergize via bleed

[proven cipher]

Lol soulblaze stacks is exponential

[rich meteor]

maybe im toxic but if you dont think surge is the strongest staff ur a noob

[long wharf]

no it's not

[devout belfry]

It is not exponential lol

[long wharf]

the damage per stack is a set array of values

[devout belfry]

Non linear ≠ exponential

[long wharf]

it ramps up quickly at low end and jankily increases past that

but the fact that it starts at 2 is bullshit

[proven cipher]

Ahh that's what I meant sorry, can't think of the word

[devout belfry]

Burn does better damage.

[long wharf]

much better damage

[devout belfry]

In fact the flame thrower is just so much better.

[long wharf]

yep, we talked about this last night

[lost pike]

Flame throwser uses ammo, so

[night marten]

I've been playing with both for tons of missions, and though I love the idea of it, it really feels like essence harvest can't cut it compared to quietitude, even if you're rolling with all three charge generators

[proven cipher]

I guess because of ammo

[long wharf]

I'd like to see purge have performance more in line with the flamer

[night marten]

quietitude is just too solid

[simple junco]

If the flamethrower didn't take so long to actually use, I'd like it much better

[long wharf]

ammo is easily replaced

[proven cipher]

Ammo weapons do more dmg

[austere sandal]

are there any known bugs for heresy missions completed for classes to get stuck at 6/7? because i know for a fact that ive beaten them all on psyker

[devout belfry]

And we'll talk about it tonight too

Ramble ramble

[long wharf]

yeah, most likely

[simple junco]

That's what generally happens when we bring up things

[long wharf]

we can only pray that FartShart, in its infinite wisdom, changes the difficulty completed icons to include symbology just for the character

[plain talon]

So close yet so far away

[simple junco]

So close to greatness

[proven cipher]

Burn % determines the dmg tick and max burn stacks too right?

[long wharf]

burn is a primary stat for purge

[devout belfry]

The ammo thing isn't as big as people like to say. The mk 12 has functionally unlimited ammo on a vet.

[simple junco]

Yeah it's application rate and stacks applied

[lost pike]

Yea, I need a better fire staff but thats to show how many stacks it can add.

[devout belfry]

Then I say the zealot gets priority with a flamer.

Only in pugs do I see ammo issues.

[simple junco]

Naaah it's more of the reload itself that I have an issue with. It's great, until it isn't.

[plain talon]

I lucked out with really good Flamer and Purgatus

They are chef's kiss

[simple junco]

I do enjoy how you can stop an alt fire midway through and reposition if you're already set up with the flamer

[long wharf]

I'm not sure if 78% burn gets you 15 as well, but 15 is currently the best we can get on purge

[simple junco]

Isn't the max 16?

[lost pike]

It takes so damn long to switch to flamer

[long wharf]

80% of 16 rounded

[devout belfry]

I tested on a 80 percent burn purge. Pretty sure the last few percentage points all have the same result.

[night marten]

most completely ignore the fact you have to charge purgatus' secondary, despite it having infinite ammo. it's kind of a big deal

[simple junco]

Quick charge + backstep into full charge does quite a bit to mitigate this tho

[devout belfry]

The flamethrower can fire for a long time.

[buoyant mantle]

also beyblade flamer zealot

[lost pike]

but you can switch from melee to fire staff much quicker than zealot can

[plain talon]

Every time I use Purgatus I'm thinking "I wish I was on my Zealot right now"

[long wharf]

as soon as we can move blessings, this bad boy is getting warp nexus

yeah, soulblaze doesn't feel good to kill with right now

[buoyant mantle]

ooh nice one

[simple junco]

That's gonna be an absolutely nuts staff

[long wharf]

due to its low damage

[proven cipher]

Damn nice

[buoyant mantle]

double 4 star perk too damn

[long wharf]

yeah, got very lucky with that

[simple junco]

Yeah, it's moreso great to ensure something dies, rather than kill it outright.

[long wharf]

I very rarely use it, though

[proven cipher]

All my freaking staff that I leveled to Orange came with freaking Run N Gun....

[long wharf]

purge needs longer range

[plain talon]

Do you notice a difference with Warp Flurry?

[simple junco]

Super agree there

[long wharf]

nope, not at all

warp flurry is functionally broken for staves right now

[proven cipher]

Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry seem to be the ideal best staff combo?

[long wharf]

for purge? no.

[buoyant mantle]

sometime it works sometime it don't

[lost pike]

Quell on this sucks but it doesnt really hurt too much

with the blessing

[simple junco]

Warp Nexus? Absolutely.

[harsh fog]

Wow

[long wharf]

getting the no-interrupt blessing is good

[harsh fog]

That’s actually pretty dope

Love void strike with Transfer Peril

[lost pike]

its my favorite

[long wharf]

feast thine eyes

[buoyant mantle]

that quell speed thou lol

[lost pike]

damn

[simple junco]

0-100 and back to 0 in a matter of milliseconds

[lost pike]

Gotta show me up like that

[devout belfry]

Warp Nexus is life.

[barren gyro]

can surge staffs have the blazing spirit blessing? (burning on crit)

[long wharf]

yup 🙂 congrats on your quell speed, though

[long wharf]

no

[simple junco]

Warp Nexus is like the closest thing we can agree on to being universally good. Surge is when it gets a little dicey though.

[lost pike]

You too. ha

[long wharf]

neither can purge, which is the only staff that it makes sense to have it on

[simple junco]

3x stacks on crits would pretty nice tbh

[long wharf]

yep

[buoyant mantle]

I remember it's only on trauma and void

[buoyant mantle]

oh there it is

[barren gyro]

ty

[long wharf]

I'm really hoping FartShack does a pass at staff blessings

[mint heart]

That's pretty much my ideal purgatus

[simple junco]

They will eventually

But yeah, eventually.

[long wharf]

or at least allows us to put any blessing on a weapon, even if it can't normally roll it

I'm holding onto so much junk gear with blessings

[simple junco]

100% crit purgatus when

[buoyant mantle]

[devout belfry]

What about blessings that have the same name but are different on other weapons -_-

[long wharf]

please shoot me.

[devout belfry]

Bet we can only move blessings between the same item type LOL

[simple junco]

Idk, I think they should worry about fixing ammo economy and general T5 viability of offmeta weapons then get into changing up blessings.

Like, all around.

[long wharf]

sadly, I think this is going to be the approach FartShart takes

[devout belfry]

If this weapon only has a handful of ammo it should violate a bullwark.

[buoyant mantle]

please, PLEASE
BY THE EMPEROR ,NO

[long wharf]

I'm ready for the pistol psyker subclass

[alpine portal]

i Assume this will be the case

[simple junco]

Exactly. Trade between either elite slaughtering and trash duty.

[alpine portal]

🙂

[simple junco]

Kinda like we do with staves.

[devout belfry]

I think it's very clear by now that you should find a new god.

[proven cipher]

Wish there is a blessing for auto reload for the revolver

[long wharf]

how do I subscribe to your newsletter?

[alpine portal]

when the emporer gives you lemones you FIND A NEW EMPORER

[simple junco]

I would only use revolvers if it reloaded/refunded ammo on headshot kills.

[buoyant mantle]

we have a heretic here

[alpine portal]

I herd him saying blood for the emporer skulls for the golden throne

[buoyant mantle]

sus

[simple junco]

Think of all the uh... fun? I think that word still fits this game?

[proven cipher]

And really hate how FS still don't just use offhand and mainhand slot for weapons

[devout belfry]

Weapon balance is all over the place.

[long wharf]

"Tzeentch, also known as the "Changer of Ways," the "Lord of Change," "Lord of Sorcery," and the "Architect of Fate," among many other names and titles, is the Chaos God of change, evolution, mutation, intrigue, ambition, knowledge, sorcery, destiny, lies and trickery. Tzeentch is especially empowered by the desire for change and ambition for advancement among mortals."

[devout belfry]

Melee stave when?

[long wharf]

I'm sold, where do I sign up?

[plain talon]

My Psyker reached level 30 like 3 days ago

[proven cipher]

Wish I can combo shield with grenadier gauntlet for my ogryn sometime

[simple junco]

I think using a melee staff is currently T1 viable

[alpine portal]

when we get an orgyn/psyker class

[devout belfry]

Open your mind.

[plain talon]

The shop RNGesus was generous to me:

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/open-your-mind-mr-mackey-south-park-s2e11-roger-ebert-should-eat-less-fatty-foods-gif-21551170

[proven cipher]

Well since the ogryn can only be male,

A female Psyker gotta take one for the team, I guess

[alpine portal]

.... ouch...

[rigid widget]

Got this as well, shame Carapace can't even be penned by it lol

[buoyant mantle]

in the other hand,you don't have enough weekly coin to buy all of them

unless you already do lol

[devout belfry]

Wow my hunger hit me hard now.

[proven cipher]

Is for the recon lashing is Infernus blessing with crit chance blessing and perks a good thing?

[plain talon]

They were regular shop items, I just upgraded them

[long wharf]

why the fuck is Tenor gifs filled with kpop nonsense when I search for "hunger"?

[plain talon]

Eventually got enough mats to get that weakspot dmg to 10% on void staff too

[long wharf]

on a vet, yes

[buoyant mantle]

oh neat, good on you

[plain talon]

Meanwhile after weeks of playing the Zealot this was the best Flamer I could find:

[simple junco]

Oh quickflame is pretty neato

[buoyant mantle]

insert empty minecraft hunger bar

[long wharf]

Sour Milk trolled my vet, however

[proven cipher]

I will sell my soul to khorne for that recon

[long wharf]

it's the wrong gun variant

you want the 6 (VI), the torrent version

[buoyant mantle]

it's fine tbh

[simple junco]

What's the main difference?

[long wharf]

I mean I still use it, it's still fun to use

[simple junco]

(I only use XII)

[long wharf]

fire rate

the VIIa has half the firerate of the torrent version

[summer prairie]

what about II?

[long wharf]

which means half the burn stacks applied in the same amount of time, statistically

[proven cipher]

How much dmg per tick is 9 stack anyway like 120-160?

[long wharf]

not sure, I haven't tested

[summer prairie]

6 stacks is already like 133

[long wharf]

suppose I could go do that

but then I wouldn't be playing the game, aka waiting for shop rotation

[proven cipher]

Prolly 200 and prolly Monstrosity and boss can last that long.

[manic needle]

Oh huh, apparently there's a staff blessing I still havent even seen despite my ridiculous ammount of playtime
https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/e/a/eada13697fef39f9de97fc90e2c5add050d284b3.jpeg

[long wharf]

yeah, I haven't seen that one myself either

I'm starting to wonder if it's not actually real

[devout belfry]

I have that one.

[buoyant mantle]

yeah ,surge
that's what I'm asking way earlier today

[manic needle]

Apparently its so rare that most people dont know about it. Its not even on GamesLantern

[simple junco]

So it just applies the damage twice if it crits?

[summer prairie]

it's t4

only

[long wharf]

no clue, which is why I want to test it

[devout belfry]

It fires two balls.

[long wharf]

at the same time? two projectiles overlapping?

[summer prairie]

whether you crit or not is determined when you shoot/use your weapon

[long wharf]

or in quick succession?

[summer prairie]

not when you hit

[proven cipher]

Like 2 charge fireball?

[buoyant mantle]

that shit on voidstrike would be God sent

[manic needle]

Which means afaik youre almost certain to never see it without consecrating an item or getting a really lucky emperor's gift

[simple junco]

... For some reason I thought crit was calculated based on the target hit.

Not the shot itself

[long wharf]

nah, it's definitely determined at the frame of attack

[summer prairie]

you can see your weapon critting when you swing it

[long wharf]

crit refers to the attack, not the hit

[devout belfry]

Attacks roll crit as you attack. Spam melee and listen for the crit sound and red trail.

[summer prairie]

there's a special animation, at least with some weapons

[proven cipher]

If Surge blessing applies to charge shots

Brah that sounds fun

[buoyant mantle]

I imagine it does

[simple junco]

That's actually pretty cool. I just wonder what that looks like

And if it takes the same amount of peril

[plain talon]

There are some ultra rare rank 4 unique blessings. I seen "Surge" for Void staff, "Bloodthirsty" for Eviscerator, "Power Cycler" for the Power Sword and "Inspiring Barrage" for the Flamer

All of them really, REALLY good blessings

[summer prairie]

bloodthirsty also for FS

[long wharf]

what's bloodthirsty?

[summer prairie]

100% crit after special kill

for ~5 seconds maybe

[simple junco]

That can run on FS?

[long wharf]

oh nice

[summer prairie]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

Hey, does kinetic flayer give you warp charges like a typical brain burst?

[buoyant mantle]

really

[manic needle]

Honestly Im feeling kind of ambivalent about Surge, although I obviously havent playtested it. Crits are nice, but unreliable.

[long wharf]

yes

[buoyant mantle]

okay ,holy shit
I need to add that to my hunting list now

[long wharf]

god damn, that's a nice blessing

[simple junco]

So... Anyone test it out on how well it works with that one soulblaze blessing?

[buoyant mantle]

I imagine it'd slap

[simple junco]

I can only imagine it would absolutely dominate with how AB works.

[buoyant mantle]

extra hard

[simple junco]

Slap on KO and you'd be set

[long wharf]

I'm sure it synergizes, but soulblaze isn't that good to begin with

and you aren't mass applying it like the purge staff

[simple junco]

Melee something on fire, get stacks, KO to apply more stacks, F at 4 stacks, repeat

[slate cloud]

Shame about the perks

[long wharf]

I mean, I guess

[simple junco]

It could be a diet purgatus if you wanna run surge or something

[fluid canopy]

530 rating and i can't muster the cash before the Melk store resets. I could have rolled one of the perks

[long wharf]

I'd have to test it to really see how effective that'd be

[plain talon]

I feel like it's even better on the Eviscerator because you can Rev, kill some mook, and then combine that with "Perfect Strike" blessing and just crit cleave through hordes

[long wharf]

it'd have to be better than using a purge staff to justify

[manic needle]

At least its not Limbsplitter, which is terrible on Tactical Axe specifically imho

[simple junco]

Well, at least AB works with it lol

[long wharf]

limbsplitter is the blessing to get on the Mk V combat axe

[buoyant mantle]

perk not bless thou

[manic needle]

Yeah because you generally do 1-2 attacks and then counterattack, which is nice

[slate cloud]

Limb splitter is a blessing though. Im more sad the perks pn that ace doesnt have flak enemies

[simple junco]

If we didn't verify that AB works on your own melee kills, I probably wouldn't think too much about it

[manic needle]

Fair enough, although thatd be a good axe for a Zealot

[long wharf]

because the push+attack is the start and end of a chain

[long wharf]

it actually has nothing to do with melee

and everything to do with you getting credit for the kill that procs AB

BB will proc AB

[next pine]

can you elaborate?

[long wharf]

if you kill something that you've applied soulblaze to, AB procs

[simple junco]

If you, yourself, get a kill on something that has soulblaze on it, you have a 10% chance of getting a stack of WC.

Purg gets a lot of its kills stolen, so having a melee option automatically apply soulblaze is pretty neato.

[next pine]

It doesn't have to be the fire tick that kills it then?

[inland sand]

what if someone else does with your soulblaze attached

[simple junco]

Nope. Just has to be your damage.

[next pine]

I see

[glossy hazel]

Didn't even know Run'n'Gun was possible for staffs, can you fire the charge attack while sprinting?

[inland sand]

i guess this answers my question

[simple junco]

"from any source" means you, yourself.

[buoyant mantle]

no lol

[glossy hazel]

Useless then

[long wharf]

I guess it'd be interesting to have a bloodthirst blazing peril force sword and purge combination

[wise pecan]

Correct

[summer prairie]

bloodthirsty effect goes away on weapon swap

[long wharf]

yeah, that's fine

maybe soulblaze force sword with void

so you cover ranged

[devout belfry]

Bloodthirst lasts how long?

[summer prairie]

5s or so

[plain talon]

Does Purgatus not stagger mobs at all or something am I going crazy? When I fire up a Flamethrower, ain't nothing getting to me through the flames, but on my Psyker there's always some blue blazing yolo assclown lunging at me regardless

[simple junco]

Void would definitely cover a lot of bases

[buoyant mantle]

5 s ,according to folks up there

[long wharf]

yeah, that's what I was thinking about - only issue is having to animation lock yourself into a special attack every 5 seconds or so

[next pine]

depends on the mob

[devout belfry]

So I imagine having soulburn on crit.

You kill something with alt then alt something with it.

[long wharf]

and how many of the enemies you apply soulblaze to are you going to kill while swinging your sword around on, at most, two or three targets?

[devout belfry]

Each hit applies soulburn?

[summer prairie]

I was hoping I could do bloodthirsty and then get guaranteed full round of crits with purg but alas

[simple junco]

Does the push count as an attack that can crit?

Probably not, just asking

[buoyant mantle]

light special on trash mob is pretty quick thou. but I get it

[devout belfry]

I'm thinking each hit of the alternate attack applies soulburn lol

[long wharf]

yeah, but the special only hits one target

[next pine]

most basic mooks will be staggered on hit. anything even remotely tanky needs to be blasted for a bit to get a stagger

[long wharf]

it should

[night marten]

it does

[long wharf]

which is why it needs testing

[buoyant mantle]

it does

[devout belfry]

Funny anti boss or bullwark cheese.

[buoyant mantle]

every crit tick count

[long wharf]

what I'm hearing now is that I need to start upgrading any and all force swords I can

to try to get those blessings

[night marten]

the special is three attacks, if the first hit is a weakspot or crit, all three are, and that counts for blessings

[devout belfry]

That's all I do.

[simple junco]

Finally, another reason to grind weapons

[summer prairie]

I bought it for 1800 melk points even though the weapon is trash otherwise

[long wharf]

welp, here I go shopping again

[buoyant mantle]

fuck shred, looking for bloodthirsty now lol

[manic needle]

On Surge staff you can always fire the charge attack while sprinting, dodging, and sliding. Its a really really bad perk for that staff especially

[next pine]

P sure shred sticks around between weapon swaps tho no?

[devout belfry]

Think I'm gonna hit chickfila, the liquor store, and Walmart back to back. Wonder how crazy it is outside.

[night marten]

counts for things like Executor #psyker-class message

[buoyant mantle]

cold ?

[long wharf]

day after christmas? not the best day for travel, but crowds-wise shouldn't be too bad, I would think

[devout belfry]

Yep, and I hope it isn't busy out.

[night marten]

it kind of is, people returning gifts/still shopping lol

airports are packed, people going home

[long wharf]

oh yeah, I didn't think about gift returns

[buoyant mantle]

oh then it should one shot bulwalk easily with the combo I show

[plain talon]

On my Purgatus, Run'n'Gun does nothing for the secondary channel, but it works on the primary attack, so you can sprint and spray flames into fool's faces

[devout belfry]

Maybe Publix instead of Walmart?

[long wharf]

WallyWorld is likely to be stupid busy

but if you show up in just your PJs and flipflops, you'll blend right in

add a scarf to that for a touch of class

[devout belfry]

I would freeze to death.

[long wharf]

oh, no, you wear socks with those flipflops

[devout belfry]

First time wearing a scarf in Florida yesterday.

[buoyant mantle]

with two mug of cocoa perhaps

[long wharf]

wear those socks with finger slots

toe slots?

toed socks.

[buoyant mantle]

cursed

[devout belfry]

I have toe socks for running lol

Blister free.

[long wharf]

I used to run

now I try to avoid going up and down my own stairs too much

[stray solar]

schizofriendics

I need assistance

what are your feat set ups?

[buoyant mantle]

you really are tzeentch beliver

[night marten]

what weapons do you want to use

[stray solar]

force sword staff

[night marten]

which staff

[stray solar]

mk 3

[long wharf]

which is?

[night marten]

[night marten]

generally that means trauma, void, purg, or surge

[long wharf]

where can I get one of those?

[stray solar]

legit haven't played psyker since the beta

lol

[buoyant mantle]

he just attach his force sword at the end of staff

[long wharf]

not gonna lie, that might be pretty cool

[buoyant mantle]

FORCE PIKE

[long wharf]

turn the staff special in proper slash

[stray solar]

guardian spears for us normals please

[buoyant mantle]

great ,now I want that to exist

[night marten]

322113 would be totally fine

[long wharf]

322??

[night marten]

can use flayer instead of battery if you feel like it

[stray solar]

why not 6-2?

[night marten]

yea why not. if you're not using AB, KO, or harvest, why is more warp charge gen more important than team-wide CD reduction?

[stray solar]

acendant weed

[night marten]

provides more team utility

[long wharf]

I can't think of a good reason to ever take psykinetic aura over communion

[night marten]

what

[stray solar]

?

[long wharf]

getting warp charges for teammates killing things?

[alpine portal]

I hate zelots...

[long wharf]

far better for your damage output using trauma

the only reason to use trauma is for it's damage

[night marten]

think you're underestimating the utility of team-wide CD reduction

[stray solar]

I am one :)

former psyker

[alpine portal]

I hate you 🙂

[stray solar]

how come :D

I don't play knife

[alpine portal]

they tend to never stick with group, least vet can handle things on there own.

[night marten]

I don't think communion is ever justified over aura unless you're running harvest, KO, or AB where that additional charge generation is going to translate into more direct offense or defense (other than passive bonuses)

but that's just my take

[stray solar]

I stick with group in t4-5 but below why would I

not like I'm gonna die lol

[alpine portal]

because your running with lvl 10s on t3

[stray solar]

they stick together religiously

[alpine portal]

this guy did 3x

[night marten]

just increases your chances the mission is successful

[next pine]

I wish I could see how much damage KO actually does. The theory craft says it COULD be good but is it better than the other two? Strictly talking about Purg with AB and Communion

[stray solar]

haven't failed a tier 3 in ages

[night marten]

I've done a lot of testing with it

[long wharf]

because I'm not brainbursting anything regularly

[night marten]

I've been running 321122, very solid *with purg

[long wharf]

which means communion is my primary means of warp charge gain, and it's common in Malice- to not get full stacks every engagement

321122 is my purge setup

321133 for surge

321113 for void

[next pine]

Yeah that's been my go to as well

[night marten]

but if you're not taking harvest, KO, or AB the extra charge gen isn't nearly as useful as team-wide ult cooldown

(I think)

[long wharf]

again, I frequently don't hit max stacks during engagements

outside of purge

[lost pike]

As my vet using counterfire, I am able to stay in stance long enough for my CD to reset.

[long wharf]

with purge, I'm nearly also at max warp charges at the end of an engagement

yeah, I think you're overestimating just how useful 15% CDR for the team is

a good vet doesn't need it

[night marten]

not at all

[long wharf]

a good zealot is doing their own CDR

[summer prairie]

cdr is incredibly useful, the stacks dont do anything

[long wharf]

and a good ogryn is not bull rushing at every opportunity

[night marten]

and if extra charge gen isn't helping you regen toughness or output more damage (beyond the +3% passive/peril resist) the value just isn't sufficient

just a difference of opinion

[long wharf]

... again, I don't find myself (outside of purge) getting a lot of warp charges above max stacks on malice-

maybe it's a playstyle difference

I don't feel the need to BB everything to be at max warp charges

I focus on what benefits my teammates at all times, because psyker is fundamentally a support class

the warp charges help with peril resist so I can do my psyker thing more frequently, that's it

[buoyant mantle]

let's just mark it playstyle differences, chill yall

[next pine]

Certain rooms on damnation make me wanna gouge my eyes out and run Voidstrike just to deal with all the shooters in the room that are a billion miles away because you can't always rely on getting a vet.

[long wharf]

we're fine, don't mistake passionate discourse for mindless arguing

[buoyant mantle]

in that case aight

👌

[long wharf]

this is my biggest gripe with purge, you lose all ability to reach out and touch enemies

[next pine]

Outside of crushers and maybe bulwarks almost everything that's actually scary in this game is ranged

[long wharf]

because sitting there trying to BB a gunner line one by one is a waste of time

[next pine]

ye exactly

like purg range isn't too bad but man

[ornate hamlet]

how do i do the warp battery penance?

[long wharf]

well, it's not great

[night marten]

ragers can sneak up and fuck you pretty bad if you're not paying attention lol

they can blend into crowds and come around corners fast

[next pine]

but i can hit them

[long wharf]

alright, I have no purple force swords to upgrade, so let's ruin some blues

[summer prairie]

the odds are incredibly low

[long wharf]

yeah, I need more diamantine

I'm upgrading all my blues to purples

and now I'm out

[next pine]

i can't hit the squadron of shooters two zip codes away that will one shot my ass if i so much as step a toe out and mess up a dodge

still love purg

just frustrations of how the higher difficulties end up feeling

[fierce hazel]

Tbh purgs weakness of range is offset by BB. Just dip in and out of cover and pop targets

[long wharf]

you really have to have a team that understands how to cover certain bases

[next pine]

that's an option

[summer prairie]

yeah only takes 5 minutes to clear the room

[next pine]

but it takes FOREVER

[long wharf]

again, that's fine for the one-off, but not for a line of gunners

[proven cipher]

Wish the targeting is better for BB

[long wharf]

the longer you spend sitting in one spot, the more time for the director to spawn shit behind or on top of you

[fierce hazel]

Are you the only one killing shooters?

No

You help

[long wharf]

one of the keys to finishing heresy+ is moving quickly and constantly

[proven cipher]

I swear so many time I point at the Snipers but can't BB their ass

[next pine]

the map that makes you walk down a big ass staircase at the beginning of the mission is a perfect example of how bad it can be

zero cover

[thorn geode]

sorry if this has already been asked but is there an order of priority on what i should be looking for on my staffs. i.e is warp resistance better then blast radius on a voidstrike?

[fierce hazel]

You tag them first?

Feels like tagging gives some priority to BB

[next pine]

Targeting on bb definitely felt better in the closed beta imo

[dense cloud]

feels bad man if people dont know asssination bos mechenicks

even tho you tel them whattou do the just odnt

[proven cipher]

Yeah, seem like target priorities for BB is kinda ass

[dense cloud]

and grief your game by shooting bos not meleleing and not droping medipack and jeut keeping it on them

[fierce hazel]

I always try to target them above their head. Elites and such are usually taller than the crowd anyway

[dense cloud]

even after explainign the mechanis of boss

and then wiping

on t3 smh

[fierce hazel]

If I sharpshooter ult with my braced auto gun you gonna watch that shield drop quick

I hang back to deal with the ads dropping in too

[dense cloud]

if im only one meleeing the bos wil styun lock shoot me donw

i do donw noting you can do about that

thats wy you need to melee bos

with more then 1 person

[fierce hazel]

If your meleeing he shouldn't really have his gun out. I know sometimes he does anyway

[dense cloud]

need 2 on him mleel to get him to puil wapon

[proven cipher]

Just back toward the wall, boss infront strat works out

[dense cloud]

if people shoointg him he wil shot back some times even then

[fierce hazel]

As long as it's not the plasma it's easy to dodge

[dense cloud]

it was the plasma

[fierce hazel]

Just side dodge when he pumps the shotgun

Plasma is rough

[dense cloud]

nad its fine but the also dint drop the medi pack

the kept it enve after i went theow

and was saying to trow it down

[fierce hazel]

F to that

[dense cloud]

like if im only one meleeing you go down

thats y you have to melee the boss

[next pine]

warp resist generally isn't prioritized. Damage, radius, and charge time are usually better. The bigger issue is finding a decent enough staff so I wouldn't worry on splitting hairs if you find one with high base stats and decent blessings.

[dense cloud]

and i was horde clearer

so when horde came the just wiped

like im salty now 😦

wish the was pvp Xd

so i could hunt them down XD 😛

huhuhu

[next pine]

If you're that salty about it maybe take a bit of a break my dude. Games are supposed to be fun and when you're playing with randos you never know what you're gonna get.

[vagrant cedar]

why do you have a typing lisp

[next pine]

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

hey how do i do the warp battery penance

[night marten]

run communion, flayer, and barrage

[ornate hamlet]

i dont think i get it, i was on 100% warp charge for pretty much the entire game without deaths and i didnt get it

[night marten]

pre-charge brainbursts so vets dont snipe them

[next pine]

are you on heresy?

[night marten]

ezpz

[ornate hamlet]

malice

[next pine]

that's your problem

[ornate hamlet]

it's not

[next pine]

gotta do it on heresy

[ornate hamlet]

no you don't

[next pine]

the description is wrong

you do

trust me

[umbral condor]

Nope, I got it on malice

[ornate hamlet]

explain why i have 182/300 and i'm a level 6 without access to heresy

[next pine]

Aight then they changed it. Fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

right now how do i do it i dont think i get the point of the penance cuz i had 100% warp charge for pretty much the entire game and still didn't get the penance

[thorn geode]

thanks!

[ornate hamlet]

"While on malice threat or higher, in a single session maintain maximum warp charges for 300s"

[next pine]

Either bug or you mustve dropped them when you weren't looking.

[ornate hamlet]

i mean i did let it drop every 5 seconds or so to like 95 and then put it back up

cuz if i go over that i explode

[next pine]

its the number of warp stacks

you need 4

the whole 300 seconds

[long wharf]

ugh, this stupid player charged the demonhost after I pinged it

[ornate hamlet]

warp stacks?

[night marten]

warp charges are different than your peril

[umbral condor]

I just watched my warp charge number, and did brain burst whenever, even to kill trash.

[next pine]

the little number on the bottom of you screen

when you bb something you get one

[night marten]

the number at the bottom is what you're looking for (should be 4 for 5 minutes straight)

[ornate hamlet]

uh huh

[umbral condor]

You need the bb to kill, not just wound to get a charge

[ornate hamlet]

got it

where number

[next pine]

Wasn't that penance bugged to be on heresy when the game went into its pre-launch beta? I'm not crazy, right?

[night marten]

BB something

then look down

[next pine]

^

[night marten]

you have to kill it

[umbral condor]

left lower corner next to health

[night marten]

the number in the middle is your Peril, not Warp Charges

[next pine]

they time out after 25 seconds if you let it drop to zero you lose all charges and have to start again.

[ornate hamlet]

right and how do i get warp charges

[umbral condor]

brain burst

[next pine]

use your brain burst ability?

[ornate hamlet]

oh ok

[night marten]

run communion, flayer, and barrage feats

you should get it pretty easy

[ornate hamlet]

i am a level 6

[next pine]

oh

[night marten]

oh. then just level lole

[next pine]

^

the feats you unlock later make it much easier

like you can try to force the issue

but you're better off just playing the game and doing it a bit later

[ornate hamlet]

well if thats the case this penance will be easier than i thought

[next pine]

its not too bad

[umbral condor]

Some just take luck, and some are just annoying

[ornate hamlet]

some veteran penances are annoying imo

"throw a grenade and hit 5 enemies without it bouncing" like bro 70% of the maps don't have ceilings high enough and then when you actually get to it you don't throw it at the right angle so the grenade explodes 0.1 meters above the enemies than it should

[brisk panther]

dis?

[buoyant mantle]

looking at you
100% accuracy penance

[ornate hamlet]

yea that too lmao

[long wharf]

that one is really easy to cheese

[buoyant mantle]

the hit reg is wonky as shit rn

[ornate hamlet]

or the fuckers get hit and dodge your bullet

[umbral condor]

I am still stuck on cliffhanger....I never seem to get the chance before someone else kills the lot

[alpine portal]

nice

[ornate hamlet]

oh i got that pretty easily already

[alpine portal]

Try trauma staff

[next pine]

@long wharf are you referring to joining at the end of the mission? I thought that was fixed.

[long wharf]

nope, not fixed

[umbral condor]

I will try that, thank you

[alpine portal]

Does not need to be any specific method. your ult is effictive. I dont remember the mission but it starts on a bridge, then a drop down got it with trauma when a hord came up accidently. there are other ways as well

Any one want to do scrit runs? PC/ Game pass

[umbral condor]

Chasm logistratum...Been there a few times.

[alpine portal]

thats sounds right

[south gull]

Look at my godroll!! https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760651793972854797/1057055800998248513/8_lmao.PNG

[long wharf]

was that an emperor's gift?

[south gull]

🙂

[buoyant mantle]

what's the lowest percentage a bar can go

[long wharf]

0

[buoyant mantle]

has anyone seen a 0 % on any bar, I'd like to see it lmao

[long wharf]

yep

[night marten]

search bar

[buoyant mantle]

holy ,hahaha

[weary idol]

god the trauma staff interacts weirdly with bulwarks

it does zero damage to them if you're infront of their shield even if you detonate it behind them

why

but of course full knockdown to their side or behind them

[long wharf]

because the direction of the explosion to enemy is being calculated from your position instead of the explosions

[weary idol]

that is so unintuitive

[long wharf]

simple, rooky mistake

[weary idol]

and really doesn't line up with how the trauma staff normally works

[long wharf]

or maybe they're multiplying the dot product by -1 in that particular calculation

[lofty robin]

quick question, can you still tank the daemoinhost with deflector perk on force sword?

[true torrent]

Its the same interaction with grenades

[weary idol]

you can tank it with peril block in general if you're good enough at dodging

[next pine]

till you run out of peril and stamina ye

[true torrent]

based on character position, not explosion

[dense cloud]

you use dueling sword to tank dh

[next pine]

still gonna get corruption

[dense cloud]

with peril block

[next pine]

and yeah you don't need to use a fs with deflector. FS quells peril MUCH slower passively than normie weapons.

[weary idol]

dueling sword dodge sliding faster than sprinting xd

[dense cloud]

lol

\omfg XD

[robust meteor]

how many internet points is this worth

[night marten]

play any vampire survivors?

[robust meteor]

yea, i got hooked on the genre for a bit. 20 minutes till dawn was probably my favorite

[night marten]

yea I played that a tiny bit too

[robust meteor]

i still play nova drift once in a while. its more action tho

[night marten]

saw my buddy with loads of achievements, turns out over 100 came from survivors lol. yea nova drift is an excellent title

[robust meteor]

i only have 10.3 hours in vampire survivors

[mint heart]

Yeah was specificaly trying to get Dmg/Fin/First Target

[mint heart]

Got a couple of deflector ones just not the right bars/perks

[robust meteor]

i haven't posted my fs in a while

i still stroke it at night

[mint heart]

how much you got there @robust meteor

[lament topaz]

Do I play my insane German Psyker, or make a stupid Vet.

[robust meteor]

not sure. im in a game now

[orchid venture]

Yo was there any new news from the datamining stuff

Or do we still only have a few lines of code and a name

[glacial abyss]

you can have this image

[orchid venture]

Thangk u for this meal

[ornate hamlet]

where krieg

[glacial abyss]

u are welcome

[weary idol]

okay damnation poxwalkers have 300 health right?

[glacial abyss]

overused

[ornate hamlet]

yea so

[glacial abyss]

good choice

[weary idol]

what

but like when I one shot them it shows 300 damage like they have 300 health

do they have 300 or not?

i am very confused

[glacial abyss]

that’s the damage u did!

[weary idol]

okay but they only have 300 health

and brain burst definitely does 825

[wanton raft]

that one has less than 300 health

[glacial abyss]

u killed them

[weary idol]

yet they still stand

[glacial abyss]

Guh??

[weary idol]

dead and alive at the same time

[wanton raft]

it's just sleeping

[weary idol]

deal 300 damage to an enemy with 300 health and it's still alive

what heresy is this

[wanton raft]

nurgle's blessing

[ornate hamlet]

Y O U F U C K I N G W H A T

[wanton raft]

I mean... praise the emperor?

[ornate hamlet]

good

[echo parrot]

New prem shop dropped?

People were posting a lot of screen caps and stuff

[night marten]

now I gotta check

[wanton raft]

it's a leak of new cosmetics

not in yet

[weary idol]

finished content being dripfed

a staple of modern gamedev

[night marten]

yea just these

[proven cipher]

And is it just me

Lol from the Veteran Sharpshooter chat

The perfect average guardsmen

[maiden wolf]

There are some pics missing from this

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

send

[wanton raft]

erm... ok rude

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-manhattan-watchmen-marvel-gif-21030500

[wanton raft]

❤️

[dense cloud]

T_t

[timber valley]

The Psyker shopping experience

[dense cloud]

i wonder if this power stacks

on other wapons

holy

the power does stack

and you can aply it to bb

nvm

rip

[fickle pendant]

Hey for Pick and Mix, Is it different types of elites or Just 5 unfortunate souls?

[vagrant cedar]

any 5

[weary idol]

can be pretty easy on comms plex

[devout belfry]

Usually takes 6 because it's bugged too

[weary idol]

regularly spawns 4 shotgunners/gunners and a couple specials on the first crescendo event

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiju-gamescage-the-thing-akiyama-yakuza-gif-20601032

[weary idol]

when you're waiting for the elevator

[fierce hazel]

Where statistic

[robust meteor]

it was a pop up when i loaded steam

[fierce hazel]

Damn, maybe it's just not on mobile

I'll have to check when I get home from work

[teal kite]

im still learning psyker, what melee weapon should a psyker use thats using a staff?

[fierce hazel]

Force sword is always good

Many people also recommend dueling sword or the mk5 axe if you can snag one with brutal momentum

[teal kite]

force sword because it lets you quel peril and damage boost from warp?

[wanton raft]

no, because you can charge it up and it looks cool

[fierce hazel]

You can also get the delector perk on it that can block projectiles

[wanton raft]

most melee weapons are viable, just get one with decent stats to level up with

[fierce hazel]

Honestly though there's a lot of weapons that are used between classes. If there's one your good with because you know it well use that

[wanton raft]

i usually use duelling sword or force sword, though i've been testing out dagger today and quite like it

push stab can get nutty with the right timing

[teal cloud]

for leveling psyker antax v felt much better, having to use force sword heavies or hit enemies multiple times wasn't as dependable

just have to use the block hold attack to get any basic cleave going

but i do love the force sword for the block and push

[teal kite]

i used a reall strong axe for a while and just one hit most things which worked well just couldn't cleave through groups

[ornate hamlet]

Force sword is just too uniquely Psyker for me to use anything else

It just feels wrong unless its the force sword or dueling sword

[teal cloud]

yeah you have to really use staff stuff if you are using an ax bc they are so single target

and yeah the force sword lets you actually interact with peril and perks so that synergy does feel like you are actually playing the class lol

[keen belfry]

need more force weapons

[teal cloud]

yeah i really want another force attack special, i love that aspect of the force sword but the animation lock can be so limiting

[copper raft]

there needs more force/warp/things psyker related overall

[teal kite]

I hate that animation lock

[sage flower]

so is this the purgatus soulblaze everything build?

[summer wind]

i wish the shared weapons were different depending on class

ie psyker uses force powers on the melee weapons

vet is faster with reloads and stuff and looks better with animations

that kinda thing

instead of just literally the exact same loadout for 3/4 of the classes

[viral ore]

Personally, I'd switch the 25 feat to the 10% to BB for the Purgatus build. High attack speed + wide area = a lot of potential bursts

[shut thorn]

Gotta say, after playing a bit of vt2 today, idk why I would play darktide

[summer wind]

the classes in vermintide actually have their own gear

[shut thorn]

Why isn't there a chaos wastes equiv

[summer wind]

like yeah we have 10 basic weapons

great

i can't wait to use none of them

[meager cedar]

If infernus on psyker became soulblaze instead of regular fire I’d be more tempted to think about gun psyker

[summer wind]

(technically more with variants but that's just a technicality, they're the same)

[teal kite]

which lasgun should a psyker use (if you chose one)

[shut thorn]

the pistol 😎

[teal kite]

Why the pistol?

[flat moat]

is there going to be a ranalds gift esque website for darktide or no.

[alpine portal]

because it cool.
it does have a higher move speed and crit chance

[viral ore]

If I had to guess, it's accurate, highly mobile, and quick to swap to.
Personally, I'd run the Mk XII

[sage flower]

it has a cooldown though, unless I'm misunderstanding something.

[teal kite]

what about the MK V autogun

[shut thorn]

cowboy mode

[viral ore]

Eh... I'm not a huge fan of autoguns in general

[teal kite]

so something fast firing and mobile for psyker if using lasguns

[tulip gale]

Brain heads: surge or voudstrike

[teal cloud]

when the cooldown is up you have a (i think) 10s window to get another BB from hitting enemies before you lose stacks, purgatus is pretty great at fitting hits into that window so you don't have to manually bb

[shut thorn]

Slowest psyker in the warp

[viral ore]

Sure, but it lets you build stacks while also running horde control, and dumps even more soul blaze around

[alpine portal]

huh?

[shut thorn]

?

[alpine portal]

edited or are you weapon swaping

[shut thorn]

edited?

[glacial abyss]

supervillain

[teal kite]

wish I could use laspistol and surge staff lmao

[shut thorn]

EAC bypass is gone

How would it be edited

Literally bottom right of vid

[alpine portal]

yah i see that now...

[teal kite]

what of tactical axes for psyker

[alpine portal]

im suprsed I havent seen people cheating tbh

[clear heath]

melk i hate u

A trauma staff, guns, and axes

[teal kite]

laspistol and surge staff feel like a better combo lmao. I mean lore wise thats what you'd see

[alpine portal]

yah, kinda wish you could replace a melee with a pistol

[teal kite]

at least for Psyker it makes person sense.

[alpine portal]

Or a vet. that might have been a logical lvl 30, carry two primarys seprate ammo pool * secondarys

[leaden dune]

Do I make this legendary

it looks pretty decent

[clear heath]

man i hate rerolling perks

trying to get a t4 perk that i want takes ages

[sleek yacht]

seems decent, but id def reroll carapace damage. Its basically useless for purg

[leaden dune]

ah it only buffs the stream?

makes sense

[leaden dune]

+8% elite damage

not bad

or well no

thats still useless lol

[covert fjord]

favorite dueling sword?

[sleek yacht]

slightly better but not the ebst lol

u prob want something more for horde clear

[leaden dune]

like +20% against unarmored?

[hardy garnet]

So the lightning staff is cool

But it feels a lil weak

[sleek yacht]

here's mine rn

[hardy garnet]

Hold up

Wait that’s fire lmao

[sleek yacht]

got stuck with ranged elite damage bc the 2nd perk was even worse

[leaden dune]

mmm i do wanna make it legendary could it could be criinge

[wanton raft]

lightning staff's okay damage, but its real strength is the CC

[leaden dune]

this is one "tough" curio lol

but is it good

[hardy garnet]

Lmao

[wanton raft]

16% + 5% and we'll talk 😉

[hardy garnet]

Also why is the force sword considered better for vet

[true torrent]

Just going to run laspistol in damnation pugs in protest

[long wharf]

if you meant the power sword, it's because when charged, it cleaves everything

[true torrent]

Vet has power sword, which is just amazing horde clear

[hardy garnet]

Apparently reading isn’t my strong suit smh

Force sword is the only melee you can quell with on psyker right?

[alpine portal]

pretend your REALLY board and want to try Gunpsy What build and blessing would you be looking for

[true torrent]

It quells worse than literally every other melee weapon

because they all passive quell

[alpine portal]

for now rumor is we are getting a 2handed weapon

[alpine portal]

rumor is they are fixing this

[wanton raft]

i'd rather switch to staff and quell, it's faster

[hardy garnet]

But like manually quell

[true torrent]

The only difference is you cant do anything else while quelling FS.

[long wharf]

I'd go either recon lasgun or MG 12 lasgun on a Vet

[fresh reef]

what's the max toughness on a curio? Only ever see +15%

[alpine portal]

Idk if your asking for quietude but it also works no matter how your peril is reduced, including your ult

[alpine portal]

17?

[wanton raft]

either 16 or 17, i forget

[long wharf]

I've seen 16, but not 17

[fresh reef]

weird, so it isn't the same as +hp?

[alpine portal]

My 76 is 16 so it has to be 17

[hardy garnet]

Nah, just started a psyk cause I don’t wanna burn out on vet and don’t feel like getting zealot to 20 so I can actually melee

[long wharf]

well then there you go

[hardy garnet]

But I don’t know what melee is worth using

[long wharf]

with psyker, people run force sword, combat axe, or dueling sword

[alpine portal]

force sword is fun, its alt fire is pretty strong.

[hardy garnet]

Are heavy swords just kinda weak?

[long wharf]

they're garbage

[hardy garnet]

Oof

[long wharf]

some people like devil's claw sword for the moveset

[alpine portal]

mk 1 is good for hord clear
ment devils claw

[fresh reef]

I like dueling sword because of the mobility

[long wharf]

the mk 1 claw sword isn't as good as the mk v combat axe, though

the combat axe is superior in every way

[wanton raft]

well force sword is fun and a strong weapon, but lack of auto quell causes issues when you're min/maxing. mk 5 duelling swords has great mobility and decent single target damage. you can make axes and dagger work too

[hardy garnet]

Sick tips guys, appreciate it

[alpine portal]

yah but sword is the main chacters weapon 🙂

[hardy garnet]

Now I’ll go continue to blow myself up cause I get carried away spamming lightning /s

[fresh reef]

hopefully this is as fun in practice as it is in my head lol

[wanton raft]

get a bunch of wound curios until you learn how to not blow up 😛

[fresh reef]

+2 wounds for an even 4 bars on Heresy+ 👍

[hardy garnet]

Does the brain burst perk give warp charges?

[fresh reef]

it's the exact same as a brain burst, so if it kills yes

[wanton raft]

it counts as a normal brain burst, yes

[alpine portal]

3 @ 25? yes

if it kills

[hardy garnet]

Kinetic flayer specifically yeah

And that’s awesome

And that does include staff moves right?

[wanton raft]

and normal melee attacks

[fresh reef]

any damage you deal can proc it

[hardy garnet]

Oh that’s sick

[alpine portal]

hay guys dont sleep on the psykenitics aura.

[fresh reef]

even the tiniest bit, like max falloff trauma staff, can proc it

[hardy garnet]

Is coherency just Allie’s near you?

[wanton raft]

yes

[fresh reef]

had a guy stand 2 feet behind me while I trauma'd in front of me and his head exploded

was very neat

[alpine portal]

yah you can see at bottom of scrren how many and who

[wanton raft]

i like hitting a dog jumping at me and their head popping

[hardy garnet]

Yeah but it’s like ds/er buff icons that don’t really tell you anything

[fresh reef]

shout out to purg staff for having the cleanest model
any agreers?

[hardy garnet]

The Aquila is just 😘

[fresh reef]

I love that, when quelling, your fingers are placed right over the eye

[hardy garnet]

Really hope they add new staffs, dunno what other powers they could use tho

[alpine portal]

telaport? idk probbly not lore

[fresh reef]

beam staff and bolt staff are some I'd like

[long wharf]

how would bolt be different from void?

[hardy garnet]

Honestly not having the “witness your doom” from dawn of war is a letdown lmao

Just having a different primary attack would be cool

[fresh reef]

no penetration but ignores armor with higher weakspot damage

and probably a different m1

[sage flower]

vermintide has plenty of examples

[hardy garnet]

That’s an awesome @ btw & true, having like stream/beam/bolt staffs would at least add a bunch of side grades

[maiden wolf]

A staff that projects a forcefield could be neat, or a channeled laser beam, or one that places a slowing field.

[barren token]

honestly I'm pretty happy with this

although Im unsure what to put the middle perk as

[wanton raft]

5% health is solid

[ornate hamlet]

I keep on getting headhunter rifle emperor's gifts

Big E... I appreciate the gifts... I dont want to play gunpsyker

[wanton raft]

OK, I hear what you're saying. Here's a lasgun.

[ornate hamlet]

I play psyker for space wizardry not for worse veteran

[wanton sandal]

true

[flint turtle]

So, anyone know if they're gonna change out with a bang or are we gonna be killing ourselves forever?

[night marten]

it's pretty doable

[flint turtle]

Yeah, but a challenge telling you to blow yourself up until you kill three elites is just annoying, and I have done all the other achievements

[wanton raft]

i did that without even trying, you just have to be a bad player

[clear heath]

same

skill issue
just be worse

[flint turtle]

Time to unlearn 300 hours

[covert ermine]

I just cant explode in time team dispose elites too quickly

[long wharf]

you're better off joining a team specifically for doing penances

[wanton raft]

just panic when you get charged by a group of ragers

[alpine portal]

start using trauma staff

[jovial quail]

Ayee found a new area to explore lol

[alpine portal]

3 crushers 3 ragers on the blind drop down on the assassanation mission with 3 bots....

[jovial quail]

I always fully charge my purg staff and have ult ready to knock down everything and get the fuck outta dodge in that spot lmao

[vagrant cedar]

why are stupid ass people trynna do leroy jenkins damnation levels all the time

[alpine portal]

... I did.... was not enough...

[jovial quail]

oof feelsbadman lol

[fresh reef]

any kinetic shield users here?

[elfin roost]

Unlocked surge staff

[jovial quail]

I embrace that spot as a flamethrower zealot but every other class it feels 50/50 on the spawns on heresy/damnation

[alpine portal]

im not great at the game but that's such a bad choak point for that kind of spawn. with one other real person it would be fine

[jovial quail]

You can sometimes just ult straight down and it'll pull aggro closer to you and you can brain burst from up top

sometimes it works sometimes not unfortunately though on if they'll come closer

[alpine portal]

not sense the change. deflection is just too good

[ornate hamlet]

Deflection is too damn rare for the utility it provides

[fresh reef]

I find myself hardly blocking ever, tbh

trauma knockback ftw

[alpine portal]

lol

[fresh reef]

this

[dense cloud]

reeee 😄

[fresh reef]

if I'm having to facetank something, it's either because the team startled a host or they're doing something wrong

[alpine portal]

its good for reses.

• rez

[fresh reef]

that is definitely a plus

gonna try shield out on damnation pugs, see if I can feel the difference

[elfin roost]

We go jim

[alpine portal]

its got me out of some bad spots, if I was better I never be in those spots. Idk if mind in motion would be any better but I run quiettude so idk if shield is worth it

[fresh reef]

join pug
two zealots rush into shooters and die instantly
veteran dies to shooters, somehow

I die because there's 20+ shooters

awesome

not even sure if it could've made a difference there

[crisp yacht]

skill issue

[alpine portal]

clearly.

[fresh reef]

obviously

[alpine portal]

have you thought maybe your using the wrong staff?

it could be a .... staff issue...

[fresh reef]

potentially

[alpine portal]

ill leave...

[fresh reef]

most probably bad positioning on my part

[alpine portal]

id probbly sprint at them blindly. but I have commited my self to every single time I load in to be ready with my ult.

[clear heath]

wtf my game crashed right at the end of a mission

[spiral lion]

heh. only now noticed that this shop sword have a little different shape from normal FS

[alpine portal]

I was tempted to buy that. looks so sick

[clear heath]

oh they wanted for me

good community

[magic hull]

i hate the camp though should have kept it metal

camo

[alpine portal]

I have 200 aqu.... its 300

[fresh reef]

what I definitely am noticing is not having warp res

yeah, no warp res hurts a lot and is not worth the 15% increase

however, being able to hold a tiny room full of trash for as long as I did is definitely something

warp absorption kinda good

surely the bots will not perish instantly upon seeing the very first enemy right?

[jolly bramble]

How do you get the skill where it randomly pops heads?

[fresh reef]

Step 1: be level 25
Step 2: Select Kinetic Flayer

👍

[jolly bramble]

Thanks!

Also which is better, lightning staff or warpfire staff?

[long wharf]

situational

[jolly bramble]

Well since I can't switch mid-mission, which situation is more applicable?

[fresh reef]

generally speaking you'll need to clear hordes more often than stun a special