psyker-class

[keen pawn]

i was thinking blazing and deflector. does blaze have a max stack like bleed? 16?

[night marten]

special will hit three times, so it should apply 2-4 stacks x 3, which would be solid damage

[clear heath]

If you crit with the special, most things die

[vivid schooner]

I'm currently just alternating builds and seeing how things feel. Didn't normally consider overload at all, but I've been convinced to give it more chances. It inherently has a really weird problem in that the range it works in is effectively similar to the actual range of the purgatus itself...

[clear heath]

You'd also be hitting so hard that you'd probably want to be scaling it with the other damage blessings anyways

[vivid schooner]

battery and flayer just make more sense to use. flayer resets your damage with more consistency and it's also the most satisfying feat the psykers have

everytime a random pop goes off, I get a lil tingly. like opening lootboxes.

I think I might have latent gambling addictions, but I try not to think about that.

and of course battery is just damage. Though, I'm not actually sure if damage multipliers from weapons or battery itself affect soulblaze dot. I'm told battery does, but I haven't taken any time to confirm it.

[orchid nest]

kind of late to this but yeah slaughterer for sure

[vivid schooner]

with every passing moment, I feel more like gun psyker is just better than staff psyker.

[orchid nest]

it refreshes the max stacks instead of falling off one by one

[vivid schooner]

Can we get agripinaa autoguns on psyker? ignore this im tired

[orchid nest]

there is also supposedly bloodthirsty which is interesting and screenshots were shared but after comparing it even if it does still exist it's still worse than slaughterer for horde clear

[night marten]

I'm sad there's virtually no way to get feedback about the rewards of KO in a fight like there is with flayer

just the impression/reminder the feat is being useful would go a long way to changing perceptions about it I think

[vivid schooner]

It would, yes. Give us dings for reward. we r monke

monke like ding

[night marten]

sometimes I'll kill elites without really focusing them which is something

[clear heath]

bro this sucks

[night marten]

but if I happen to not get the kill (and the whole team is usually focusing them) there's really no way

[vivid schooner]

I've never given much thought to the weapons I've been getting up til now, cuz I always make do with just 'enough output' given how blatant damnation is about being a statcheck mode

[night marten]

soulblaze isn't going to do anything to carapace

[vivid schooner]

but upon checking all the gear I've bought up... I never actually get good stuff :(

[clear heath]

btw i don't even think +4 soulblaze blazing spirit even exists in the game yet. All my blazing spirits are +2

This is my sword

[orchid nest]

would be cool if it was its own unique effect with some aoe too or something that still gave a charge

[vivid schooner]

soulblaze is not for carapace and not ideal against maniacs

[supple skiff]

by terra a decent gift from big E https://prnt.sc/mgQfYvBJo0sW

[vivid schooner]

It's very much everything other than those two. and also maybe not dogs.

[clear heath]

Ok but if you're relying on a force sword special crit to apply soulblaze, what the fuck else even survives a force sword special crit?

[night marten]

I still easily one-shot maniac ragers with a full secondary, even a dog if I get one crit

[clear heath]

What do i even test this shit on? Everything dies if i crit

[vivid schooner]

Go test it again in damnation, if you could. I did it just now and the full charge isn't doing it and I have a 80 burn

[night marten]

I don't think you can rely on crits from FS, just nice to have.

[vivid schooner]

maybe I did it wrong somehow

[clear heath]

I guess i'll try reapers

[night marten]

one sec, I'll load up the game

[clear heath]

ok it's useful on reapers

I guess bulwarks too

idk if my sword kills a mutant on crit actually, lemme check

[vivid schooner]

I'm ingame, too, so il go check now, before i go to bed

[orchid nest]

could rely on crits with it with bloodthirsty like I was saying before but gl finding it if it even still exists on it. I think the screenshots shared that had it might have been the pre release beta or something and they changed it. would love to see if someone has one still.

[vivid schooner]

I used to think it worked well on maniacs but they seem very resistant

[clear heath]

Man it's such a pain in the ass to even get this thing to crit

[vivid schooner]

yeah, it's so slow against the rager, but you're right, it does die.

it takes awhile to tick down.

it's slower than the others. muties seem especially chunky with it

though that may just be their general healthpool

[night marten]

muties are very chunky

[jovial frigate]

i know muties die to force sword special crits in 1 heavy iirc, non-crits seem to be a couple hundred off of not dying

i guess same for dreg ragers too

[vivid schooner]

it's wow

[clear heath]

this fucking sword won't crit

[night marten]

not mutants, unless you have a god sword

[vivid schooner]

full charge on dog. lmao

[night marten]

but ragers can yes, with a decent sword

[vivid schooner]

the ticks ran off

[night marten]

1 crit should do it

[vivid schooner]

can this weapon crit?

[jovial frigate]

hmmm

let me try it

[clear heath]

It does crit, just not when i want to

[vivid schooner]

does crit apply more soulblaze or do you mean the soulblaze itself crits?

do I use crit% on the perk, then?>

[clear heath]

I think we're testing different things here.
We were talking about using force sword special with blazing spirit to apply soulblaze

My arguement is that a force sword special crit would realistically just kill the enemy

[orchid nest]

for what it's worth infested is probably a good perk to have on fs with slaughterer because it helps you reliably hit poxwalker headshot 1 hit breakpoint for damnation

[night marten]

maniac rager 1-shot with secondary

[vivid schooner]

I wasn't talking about that the whole time, I was discussing my own stuff.

weird, yours actually burns faster

[night marten]

crit'ing with secondary drops an extra soulblaze stack

so it's pretty important

[vivid schooner]

I see. maybe I need to reroll for crits

[night marten]

crit chance is absolutely essential on purg

[vivid schooner]

yeah, that would explain it. I need a better staff, basically.

[orchid nest]

I think warp nexus applies to everything you have equipped so if you're still testing it try having a warp nexus staff on at high peril. unless they recently fixed that

[patent hatch]

I nutted

[clear heath]

yeah no blazing spirit sucks
I'm not gonna spend 2 hours trying to get this thing to actually crit on special

[orchid nest]

yeah it's only interesting to try imo with bloodthirsty if it's even real still

[clear heath]

Pretty sure bloodthirsty is real. I've seen pictures of it

[patent hatch]

Aight Aight

Gonna throw a curve ball

I feel

[orchid nest]

I saw the screenshots but it could have been pre launch beta or something, because they tinkered with blessings on release

[pearl delta]

so i just noticed last night i had a hig power puratus staff and rolled it up to purple. as a lightning spam player, i feel very lost. how i flamethrower?

[clear heath]

burn the heretics

[pearl delta]

anyone wanna ELI5 it for me

[patent hatch]

Take 2nd row level 30 and just burn

[pearl delta]

(i also do have a mediocre deflector sword if that's neccessary)

[night marten]

completely optional

[patent hatch]

FS are never nessercary just boring

[pearl delta]

i was getting really used to the quietude/non-force sword to 'auto-qell.' not used to actively quelling again : P

[night marten]

I love it, use FS+deflector and purge mainly, but plenty of people use axes and daggers

[orchid nest]

although at some point the armory stopped really giving above tier 2 blessings and melks seems mostly tier 3 meaning you would only really get bloodthirsty from crafting it at tier 4 so it could be possible it's just that rare

[jovial frigate]

shit nvm thats with 1 stack

[pearl delta]

i really like duel sword, but ihad a high roll chain sword i was enjoying. deflector does feel nice because of purg having no range

[jovial frigate]

god damnit

[night marten]

if you're going to run essence harvest, I think you need at least two of these three: communion, flayer, AB

[vivid schooner]

I've recently gone back to using quietude again, so I do need to consider not runnning FS

It's not my favorite way to do things, but the fact is that if you're playing staff, you are going to be quelling. constantly. one way or another.

[pearl delta]

yeah. quiet wtih FS does seem kind of to suck

[clear heath]

I actually still run quietude with FS

I just manual quell

[patent hatch]

Tbh Chain sword is very nice. I feel it’s underrated af. And Fire has more range than you think

[pearl delta]

i was trying 321132 for talents

[vivid schooner]

I used to use quietude with fs, awhile ago, but there is some argument to be made for using that time to partake in crowd control and general killing

[pearl delta]

is KD a trap?

[jovial frigate]

guess you need executor + deflection for both muties and dreg ragers

[night marten]

if you're going to be running all three charge-generating feats, you might get more mileage out of essence harvest

[patent hatch]

That’s what I run accept first one on 1 and 25 on 3

[vivid schooner]

if deflector could deflect bomber grenades, I'd actually never not use it. God I wanna toss that shit back at them

[patent hatch]

I feel that

[pearl delta]

can essence harvest stack?

like can you get more than 6 toughness a second?

[night marten]

no

[orchid nest]

slaughterer should reliably do it on its own or with a combo of a lower amount of stacks but only if you are actively fighting when it comes in of course.

[patent hatch]

No unfortunately not

[pearl delta]

warp absorptiopn just too unreliable i assume

[vivid schooner]

I guess the only way I will get good weapons is to join the shop afker squad

[jovial frigate]

when you hit them so they drop it at their feet but they dont get staggered for 900 years by fire like us

and just walk away

[patent hatch]

It’s very frustrating not having a way to get toughness while in cover

[night marten]

it is imo with purg yea

[clear heath]

warp absorbtion seems like a voidstrike thing

[vivid schooner]

their own immunity to fire aside, is there a hidden property to different fires?

[patent hatch]

Definitely

[jovial frigate]

also for whoever missed it, i finished rolling my purg today

[vivid schooner]

sometimes I walk into em and it doesn't hurt my toughness, normally it just ticks it all off.

very spicy.

Wait, waht does crit dmg actually do for purgatus

[jovial frigate]

crits double soulblaze stacks

[night marten]

damage? next to nothing

chance? extra soulblaze stack

which is what you really care about

[vivid schooner]

Noted.

[patent hatch]

Well more damage and crits put on double soul blaze

[vivid schooner]

I am very specific about differentiating crit chance from crit dmg, since purgatus' direct damage is not the priority

[clear heath]

what was so bad about the other perk that you decided to keep crit damage?

[jovial frigate]

it was poxwalker

[clear heath]

oh

[jovial frigate]

tge shitty 8% one was like eh nahg

[night marten]

yea also useless

[clear heath]

i'd still take that over crit damage tbh

[night marten]

whatever, just need the crit chance anyway

[vivid schooner]

ah yes, poxwalker dmg. the one thing you already delete anyway.

actually, DOES dmg itself count to soulblaze dots?

[formal glade]

Hmm anyone know how good this is? I've been enjoying the dueling sword quite a bit, but don't really know what blessings it can get to make it really shine.

[vivid schooner]

Like, from a weapon and from warp battery.

[clear heath]

damage stat from the modifier i don't think so.
Perks and blessings yes

[night marten]

#psyker-class message

I need 3 warp charges to do it, but can also do a mutie with a weakspot hit

[jovial frigate]

ye

[echo parrot]

Man my rolls have been so shit lately

[clear heath]

This is from burn, but soulblaze works the same way.
Watch how the burn ticks actually scale with the axe's headtaker as soon as i swap to it, and start ramping up each tick

buggy ass game

also the reason it drops initially when i swap to axe is cause the flamer has +damage to unyielding and my axe doesn't

so switching weapon could either buff or nerf your DoT damage depending on what you have

[night marten]

I cri every time...

seven damage

[vivid schooner]

Still pretty good. must be a neat sword.

[jovial frigate]

ye i gave up on hitting the mauler breakpoint lol

[jovial frigate]

from base that is

[clear heath]

Do you have psykinetic's wrath on?

[night marten]

don't think they're dangerous enough to really care honestly

[clear heath]

Well if you really care, even at 0 peril you get 5%

and you won't be at 0 peril anyways because... weapon special lol

[vivid schooner]

Have your thoughts changed on overload vs battery of late?

[night marten]

na, I still think they're both good, even flayer depending on what you're doing

[patent hatch]

I hate to say it

[night marten]

just depends on whether you want to prioritize elite offense, defense, or general utility

[patent hatch]

Most of the perks are viable which is awsome

[night marten]

(KO, flayer, 6-stack)

[vivid schooner]

im gonna wait 20 min for daily reset, look at melk's shop, then go cry myself to sleep.

[patent hatch]

Apart from 10 which only 2 are good

[night marten]

yea that does it

[patent hatch]

Like there’s only one perk which is bad

Take that back

It has a place in Gun Psyker

😎

[jovial frigate]

got both of these from spamming randoms at mr milks scam shop

[patent hatch]

Dang might join you

[vivid schooner]

spamming randoms?

[patent hatch]

Yeah

[jovial frigate]

i dont even check the temp market anymore i pretty much just spam for possible force swords once i finish my weeklies lol

[clear heath]

mind in motion?

[tame berry]

Started my psyker yesterday.

Man. BB takes so long to go off lol.

[night marten]

oooo spicy

[vivid schooner]

What does spamming randoms at melk's shop mean?

[jovial frigate]

using your milk for random items

[patent hatch]

That’s considered the default at this point.

I mean I run it on Surge

[pearl delta]

Just wait until you get staves, then ignore BB except for snipers and ogryns

[clear heath]

it barely does anything if you quell with staff out

[vivid schooner]

I never take mind in motion anymore. A lot of the time, I don't actively quell while needing to move.

[runic gate]

How many melk points you gamble?

[clear heath]

Try taking off mind in motion and quelling with staff. You won't notice a difference

[vivid schooner]

Oh, right, melk can actually give random loot.

I totally forgot about that terrible gacha feature.

[clear heath]

all mind in motion does is build bad habits of quelling with anything other than the staff

[patent hatch]

Surge and Traumua I take it on

[jovial frigate]

well about 2k every week so far so like 6? 8?

[patent hatch]

Overs nope

[runic gate]

Nice items

[patent hatch]

I’d argue the overs are better but MiM is still decent

[jovial frigate]

thanks im selling the surge for 1 single hot chip

cus surge is

anyway

[patent hatch]

I’d buy it

Surge is boring as fuck

But useful

Annoying combo

[night marten]

melk sold me this this week , but I still think mine's better

[vivid schooner]

I want to make the reference joke but iirc, someone got banned for misogyny so I'm not even gonna take the chance.

[night marten]

made me change name instead of calling him a scammer

[pearl delta]

I forgot about kinetic overload. OH MY what kind of a flame thrower would i be

[runic gate]

Did you have to upgrade these or did they come as purp/orange?

[jovial frigate]

surge came as blue axe came as it is

[patent hatch]

How is that Misogyny

[vivid schooner]

It isn't, but this is an official server, context has no relevance, the words themselves will do.

[patent hatch]

Ah fair

[glad tulip]

About dueling swords - MK4 or MK5? which one would be the goat?

[pearl delta]

I really like Mk IV. not sure about MkV. it just doesn't feel as... swishy

[clear heath]

ok not the most precise test, but i managed to travel 7 meters while before i finished quelling with mind and motion, and 6 meters without mind in motion

this is so pointless

[patent hatch]

I don’t like either of them tbh

[vivid schooner]

I do find it weird they changed the ranged dmg reduction to work off my peril now.

I much preferred when it was warp charges, b ut realistically not much different.

[pearl delta]

this was my highest weapon roll ever. some where a gun psyker is jelly

but also 67 on damage wtf

[night marten]

honestly I would use kinetic shield now if I wasn't running FS deflector, and prioritize toughness on curios for that one feat

[jovial frigate]

i feel like its drastically worse if it is 33% dmg reduc off 90peril

[patent hatch]

Yeah I prefer it too. If there gonna change it I think they should change inner tranquility to do the same thing

[jovial frigate]

like by a factor of 10 worse lol

[vivid schooner]

it is indeed the spicy block.

I never actually used it seriously as a feat to begin with

it's not something I could reliably always have when I needed it.

it was more, I wasn't running deflector and I didn't need the extra block so why not

[clear heath]

They should make quell speed like 10% faster with mind in motion so we could pretend it actually does something

[patent hatch]

I’m not a fan of the block feat I’ll be honest. I tend to dodge a lot more and I don’t like FS so ya know

[clear heath]

The block feat is still nice for revives

[patent hatch]

True

[vivid schooner]

Wait, can you rez while blocking?

[clear heath]

Yeah you autoblock

[patent hatch]

You auto block while rezzin

[vivid schooner]

oh, you meant that.

makes sense.

[jovial frigate]

they should make mind in motion give movespeed while brainbursting too so that you'll feel less bad when picking that feat

[vivid schooner]

Hmm, that actually means, comparatively, ogryns are the worst at rezzing. what

[patent hatch]

More like less bad while brain bursting

[clear heath]

with deflector you even block bullets in whatever direction you face while rezing
Ogryns can't do this with shield lmao

[vivid schooner]

yeah

[patent hatch]

Tbh Ogryn is depressingly bad

[vivid schooner]

vet has camo, zealot has stun nades, psyker can deflector and ogryn... just eats it, I guess.

[clear heath]

It's funny to see an ogryn try to rez while getting shot, failing, and then i go up as a psyker like "dw buddy, i got this"

[patent hatch]

lmao

[clear heath]

ogryn has good guns
with a feat tree that entirely focuses on close range combat

fucked up class

[patent hatch]

It.. needs a rework

[vivid schooner]

wait, what good guns. it's ripper, stubber and for most, grenadier.

[patent hatch]

yeah true

[vivid schooner]

and I dont think stubber is great for damnation, fr.

so that leaves ripper and gg

[patent hatch]

Stubber is cool in theory but cool

[clear heath]

Well, they can kill hordes of far away gunners.
That's 1 unique thing that most other classes don't really do

vet isn't killing 4 gunners at once

[vivid schooner]

uh

[patent hatch]

I prefer the pipe style grenade tbh

[vivid schooner]

they can be if it's agripinaa vet

that thing deletes 10 gunners in a few seconds of firing

[clear heath]

well anyways, that's the only good thing i have to say about ogryn

take it or leave it

[patent hatch]

I mean

[vivid schooner]

Sure, I guess.

[orchid cairn]

Hi Psyker players! I'm(slowly but steadily)making a Gun focused Pysker guide in Steam. I'm looking for a fellow Psyker player who also mains and/or has experience as a Gunslinger Psyker(on Heresy/Damnation difficulty)to possibly add some input from Force Sword pros&cons in a loadout with a gun and also experiences with the Deflector perk because I haven't managed to test it myself(It's never in the shop when I'm looking).

[vivid schooner]

I don't have a good agripina on my vet, but that thing chunks through gunners without even aiming.

[patent hatch]

They have weird feats and odd guns. Most importantly no female ogryns. So it’s pretty boring

[vivid schooner]

if I wasn't so partial to kantrael efficiency, it would be my go-to

[clear heath]

like ok they don't have the best ranged. vet obviously generally works better
but they're decent and killing a group with a single shot is an interesting tool

[patent hatch]

Hey I don’t mind helping!

[orchid cairn]

Your name(if you so wish)will be added to the contributors to the guide if you can give me something juicy.

[vivid schooner]

what weapon is t his we're talkin about, I assume you mean the grenadier gauntlet, but I don't have one that caps the aoe blast so I don't ... know if it actually does that.

[patent hatch]

DMed

[vivid schooner]

Most of what gg does for me, seemingly, is just to smack down carapace and general bigbois

[clear heath]

either of the explosive weapons are good at gunner horde disruption. Either rumbler or grenade gauntlet works

[vivid schooner]

I'll have to get some better guns

I'm being punished for not afking in front of the shop all day. g di

[clear heath]

imo rumbler probably does better with a decent team that actually protects you, but i take grenade gauntlet so i can quickly deal with threats if i'm prepared

[vivid schooner]

I don't bring ogryn into damnation.

[clear heath]

I mean i definitely think ogryn is the weakest class, but it's not unplayable

[vivid schooner]

forgive the lack of skill or sportsmanship, but vet or zealot. always. because they're kind of cheesing it.

No, I don't think any class has issue in damnation, but I do prefer to take all my advantages.

[clear heath]

Doesn't really feel like they do anything special aside from ranged crowd disruption

[vivid schooner]

I don't have faith in others. Even less in my own skills.

zealot and vet are having the best time rn. one deletes nearly everything in the game and the other can't die

[clear heath]

true

[vivid schooner]

I'm actually coming around to the consideration of playing plasma vet.

[clear heath]

every time i play ogryn i just miss being zealot

[vivid schooner]

I finally got a nice tacaxe. brutal momentum and stacking crit chance. the perks suck a bit but I rolled it best I could.

reset time.

Still never actually seen lacerate dagger on my zealot.

fatshark conspires against me. not that I really need one, but it would be nice to have.

[nocturne palm]

good or bad?

[vivid schooner]

on psyker?

I don't use tacaxe on psyker aside from just filling space, so I'm not sure. :c

[nocturne palm]

oh ok

[void anvil]

axe is kinda okay because of mobility but the saber with defense is better

[vivid schooner]

but tacaxe, in genral, doesn't cleave well so you do usually want brutal momentum if you plan to use that to stop hordes.

a lot of people using the swoosh swoosh, huh.

[clear heath]

time to check the daily scam shop

[night marten]

oh boy

[clear heath]

stamina curio
melk i hate u

[nocturne palm]

this is my current sword should i change the blessing?

[night marten]

when you figure out how let me know

[clear heath]

why the fuck did he offer me two trauma staves?

[nocturne palm]

oh lol i meant perk

[next pine]

What's better on curios, toughness or max hp?

[night marten]

that's almost as bad as asking which staff is best

[mystic dirge]

lol

[next pine]

Fair point

[clear heath]

yeah but this one has a correct answer
toughness

[next pine]

Just trying to get opinions

[burnt python]

huh

[night marten]

yea I don't think sprint efficiency is a good choice, but I'm not a DS user

[drowsy fog]

Imagine if when we can move blessings from one weapon to another its bugged in that you can give a weapon a blessings its not supposed to have. Deflector on EVERYTHING

[void anvil]

Sprint efficiency can be nice if you only use your weapon for defense and swap to it for a burst of speed

[vivid schooner]

I prefer toughness, but there is some argument for abit o health on zealot, given the way they mitigate and rely on holy revenant on crit builds.

[jovial frigate]

isnt this what zealots would sell their balls for

[vivid schooner]

For psyker? always toughness for moi.

[vivid schooner]

Yes.

[leaden pier]

id run either

[pearl delta]

Sprint efficiency on knife is good for counter strike muscle memory!

[next pine]

Is there an argument to be made for block efficiency and stamina when running deflector?

[vivid schooner]

It is the ideal bleedcrit weapon if you're not into playing selfish lacerate knife.

[clear heath]

psyker takes more toughness damage while sprinting tho

[next pine]

@clear heath wait what?

[jovial frigate]

ye dont vets take like 2x tough dam while sprinting lol

[pearl delta]

Just gotta slide!

[clear heath]

vets take 2x and psykers take 25% more

[drowsy fog]

Slide everywhere, fuck your pinky

[vivid schooner]

my own zealot's axe. so close, but still saucy.

[next pine]

That's so silly

[pearl delta]

i just do the karate chop on my keyboard

[clear heath]

Just slide

[pearl delta]

to go from sprint to slide

[jovial frigate]

0% while sliding on zealots tho is funny

[vivid schooner]

always zealot slide boyo

[jovial frigate]

ye

is blast radius still bugged on trauma staff

[pearl delta]

i find it weird that vet gets a lot of melee defense because they are a ranged class but psykjer doesn't because mages in dnd wore cloth and now 40 years later, spells = dies to a strong breeze

[night marten]

people say peril block is somehow busted when they have literal invincibility with a built-in, spammable ability

[clear heath]

Psyker is squishy, but honestly we have decent ways of not dying.
Peril block and surge staff is incredibly safe

[vivid schooner]

to be fair, I wish zealots had more build variety. bleedcrit is way overtuned compared to the rest of the options

ofc it's also slower at handling hordes as a melee option.

[void anvil]

I messed around with the perks on my DS a lot and found the extended fast speed to be really nice actually for some oh shit situations or hurry up and get to location x so I stuck with it. You will hear the sound notif when something is swinging at you so you can just stop running right before. Definitely just a quality of life but none of the other perks seemed to do much since I only block shove and try to CC with the DS when I have to

[clear heath]

imo just slide

[jovial frigate]

my thing i think is funny

[clear heath]

Sprinting sorta makes sense on zealot but even then i think sprint efficiency is overrated, since they can slide and be immune to toughness damage

[jovial frigate]

is that not a single stat on psyker beats out the other classes

according to that chart

[night marten]

also fun fact, don't think many people realize you can slide while holding objective/medicae cells. Sliding speed doesn't appear to be affected at all, so just spam it to move faster

[void anvil]

the extended speed duration is longer than the slide, like you cant slide to the other side of the room for objective but yeah its not life changing

[clear heath]

Stamina regeneration delay

Not that it matters cause we don't even use stamina to block

[jovial frigate]

ah yep missed that one

[clear heath]

well, it's slower, but you could just spam slides and be a lot safer

i've never felt like running out of stamina for sprinting is really an issue

[jovial frigate]

if ur sliding ur pretty much at 100% yeah

[clear heath]

not like you're trying to run that far during combat, and if it's not in combat then who cares?

[cyan notch]

well u dont want to be at 0 stamina in combat

[clear heath]

who runs in the open in combat for so long that they run out of stamina?

[jovial frigate]

who holds sprint until they are at 0 stamina

ever

[cyan notch]

they dont they push

[night marten]

has toughness regeneration speed on curious been shown to work?

or was it bugged

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/C0lpLU3TPRGc lmao

[reef imp]

Last I heard it is still bugged

[clear heath]

idk, there was a bug report about it, but i haven't actually seen video evidence of it being tested

so no idea

[stark nebula]

I'm not really a staff scientist. Blazing Spirit is crap and I shouldnt buy this probably, right?

[drowsy fog]

Only one stack? That's the lowest roll

[modern bronze]

helo i just started playing psyker is this normal

[stark nebula]

I thought that seemed weird because it definitely has 3 notches on it

[jovial frigate]

if you're starving for a voidstrike it aint too bad overall, weak spot dam + transfer peril is a good mix. but i prolly wouldnt pay 3k for it

[drowsy fog]

Transfer peril good tho

[stark nebula]

OK thanks guys

[night marten]

sigh.. you hate to fucking see it

fatshark.... @#%@#$)(@*#$@#$

[vivid schooner]

I got shafted by consecrate just now, too. got a near-godroll on a somewhat okay tacaxe for zealot. gave me +power instead of shred

[orchid nest]

thats why I lock in xp at purple and then upgrade it after

[jovial frigate]

big brain'd

[next pine]

Pick on of the 2 options at purple to re roll

then get xp

Upgrade to gold after

guaranteed not to get xp

[vivid schooner]

smort.

[valid marsh]

Worth?

[next pine]

It's not really that helpful

[valid marsh]

The blessings are pretty good as well as two tier four perks

[next pine]

but you can do it

[vivid schooner]

rather have crit blessings

[orchid nest]

they should at least have the prestige leveling from v2 though for real so it does something still

[night marten]

?? but could you always just get ordo dockets or xp when going to gold??

[vivid schooner]

I own a fairly similar staff and not having the crit blessing makes me feel robbed when I see bowkill's staff.

ignore the perk im mid-rerolls.

[jovial frigate]

its more just increasing your favor of not getting a poop roll by trying to remove one of the bad ones from the pool

[vivid schooner]

it's not as good as all that.

[night marten]

right, but I think it's unusable if it has either dockets or experience, whether one gets locked in or not

[valid marsh]

Crit blessings statistically seem

useless

for this specific staff

[night marten]

not for purge staff it isn't

[vivid schooner]

They increase dot application when they trigger.

[valid marsh]

because looking at the crit damage its like

ok?

Oh

More dots

I see

[night marten]

[jovial frigate]

im not following but i also have coughed my brain into pain jello just a minute ago

[valid marsh]

Thats good to know

[vivid schooner]

more dots is the name of this staff, sadly.

i am sad because i bad staff

angri

milkman, pls.

[night marten]

I might just be too dumb to understand the strategy of limiting bad chances at consecration rolls lole

[orchid nest]

nah you're right from your standpoint. it only matters if you're willing to accept a mostly good one instead of a perfect min max'd one. just depends on where you're at

[next pine]

^

[night marten]

ah ok. Yea I feel like all four stats must be useful for it to be considered acceptable

[vivid schooner]

hmm.

[night marten]

but I already have decent curios. for someone trying to get a starter set, it would be different and that strat could make sense

[vivid schooner]

That, actually seems fine. i dont like the perks but i can reroll one to crit chance.

[night marten]

does that give you 15 max stacks when you hover over Burn stat in V?

[vivid schooner]

sec

[jovial frigate]

i just wish curios didnt cost as much as weapons to consecrate

[vivid schooner]

yes, it caps 15.

[burnt python]

very similar to my purge, its good

[night marten]

hell yea, pretty good staff with great blessing

[next pine]

@night marten you can still get all 4 to be useful that way but you likely are going to get lower rolls but you'll get 4 useable ones more consistently

[vivid schooner]

I mean, I obviously reroll the poxwalker perk, right. but realistically I dont know if they other does anything, either.

[jovial frigate]

20% is 20%

[night marten]

vOv yea I would reroll poxwalker

[vivid schooner]

I'm just gonna get me 5% crit

[burnt python]

theres only 1 important perk for purge

[night marten]

they're both relatively inconsequential, just need the crit chance

[jovial frigate]

ye

[vivid schooner]

good job milkman, you gave me something good for once

[night marten]

I feel like they stealth buffed him

the past two days have actually had a decent number of respectable rolls

[burnt python]

i bought that 379 tac axe gonna try it out on psyker lol

[vivid schooner]

i bought this on my zealot today. the consecrate did not give me shred so it's dumped.

[night marten]

love the feel of a tac axe, but I have to click so damn much due to the lack of *cleave lol

[next pine]

He'd be considerably better if the rolls were 350+ guaranteed

[jovial frigate]

i wouldve bought anyway in case shared inventory comes before bleedlot nerfs

[burnt python]

melk just gave me this on psyk

[night marten]

damn

be a crime not to try

[vivid schooner]

pretty slick. most zealots would kill for that

my own is actually a mirror, but no penetration.

[jovial frigate]

doesnt uh

[night marten]

both top tier blessings and god-tier stats

[jovial frigate]

warp nexus work when you dont have the staff on too

[night marten]

gotta be close to if not a godroll

[burnt python]

yeah i have warp nexus on all my staves

[orchid nest]

came from melk with the t4 blessing?

[jovial frigate]

so you can get like +50% crit with high peril weapon swap

[vivid schooner]

yep

[void anvil]

I have never seen a single item in melks shop with a base stat spread higher than 350

[orchid nest]

hmm alright. was wondering if he gave t4's still, hadn't seen one in forever. good to know

[vivid schooner]

It's good but my current axe is a mk2, so the attack pattern is more reliable with weakspot anyway.

[burnt python]

today is my day i guess - i rerolled crit dmg into 5% crit on first try lol

[jovial frigate]

n1

[vivid schooner]

ez mone

[void anvil]

And thats having played since the beta, I always get better rolls in the normal shop so I just said fuck it and started doing the random curious

[burnt python]

mk II tac def best move set

[vivid schooner]

man I have been burning through my cubes lately

psyker running out now

not enough to reroll perks prob. do i go perks or consecrate first. i dont plan to farm til next week. let's see.

[burnt python]

perks more likely to pay off and way cheaper

[vivid schooner]

fair enough

[burnt python]

consecrate more likely to break your heart 😛

[vivid schooner]

dont remind me

im surprised once it costs nothing, they dont just let us pick the stats instead of having to keep rolling

[burnt python]

eh its a bunch more shit to develop, mayb elater but im not surprised they didnt add it

needs a new ui and shit

[jovial frigate]

ah yeah warp nexus and shred def feel like they stack

[vivid schooner]

it occasionally skips my mind whenever I'm not playing the game that it's still in this state and they have higher prios than QoL

[burnt python]

haha yeah still real rough around the edges

[next pine]

@jovial frigate does it apply to either weapon?

[night marten]

@clear heath shred+warp nexus might be great for blazing spirit on an FS per @jovial frigate

[jovial frigate]

havent tried the other way around but its def satcking on my axe

1 sec

[vivid schooner]

hadron holding me captive from sleep. it's almost 9am. i cant recall when I last slept

[burnt python]

i assume warp nexus is gonna get changed at some point

unless its intentional, who knows

[vivid schooner]

oh I think I disconnected

[burnt python]

most of the staff blessings are broken or bad rn

[night marten]

yea I almost wonder whether the multi-weapon blessing interactions are actually intentional

[vivid schooner]

right, yeah, it froze.

[jovial frigate]

the peril based crit has to be a intended thing

[night marten]

the one thing that makes me think they aren't was the broken bleed chance to instakill thing

[burnt python]

it is, but did they "intend" for it to apply to ur melee as well?

[night marten]

right that's what I mean

[burnt python]

sry meant to reply at @jovial frigate

[night marten]

are cross-weapon blessing interactions intended

might be

[jovial frigate]

yeah thats what i meant by my comment

personally i think if you are implementing peril/class mechanic based stat changes it's meant to change for the class as a whole

but maybe theyll nerf it

[steel egret]

inherited blessing effect is a known thing but there is no confirmation if its intended considering things you can do with it.

[night marten]

right

[jovial frigate]

prolly shoulda tested with left clicks but so used to push block spamming

definitely feels like 50% crit there tho

or whatever

35?

ye 35

well isuppose 40 with psyker 5% base

[next pine]

looks about right

[jovial frigate]

huh

[clear heath]

what

[jovial frigate]

not sure if its placebo or not but it felt kinda possible the other way around. 1 sec

waiting on ffmpeg to make my 20 second clip not half a gig

[fresh reef]

what do you record with?

[jovial frigate]

nvidia cus im lazy to setup anything else

[supple skiff]

friday night est and cant get a heresy quick match que

[jovial frigate]

have it set up to quick record last 3 minutes of gameplay on a keybind which i generally use

[clear heath]

I just record with shadowplay and trim with the windows editor

[fresh reef]

dude obs is literally on steam

30 sec clip = ~4mb

[jovial frigate]

same weapons used

[clear heath]

Are you trying to figure out of warp nexus and shred stay on when you swap?

[jovial frigate]

ye

[next pine]

that was a lot of crits

[jovial frigate]

warp nexus stays cus high peril but was testing to see if shred applies to purg

[simple junco]

Maybe using a 0 crit staff would yield more accurate results?

(still thats a lotta crits)

[jovial frigate]

which it kinda felt like it there

[clear heath]

Try using a purg staff with barely any crit
Should easily be able to tell the difference between 25% crit and 5% crit

[jovial frigate]

ye

sec

aha

i have 1

[simple junco]

That looks pretty critless to me

[clear heath]

Actually i'll try with the other blessings too

[next pine]

So the question at hand is shred + warp nexus enough to make blazing spirit anything more than a meme

[clear heath]

ok i'm too lazy to record but

[next pine]

I don't think so

[burnt python]

highly doubtful lol

if you're critting that much things will just die

[next pine]

my thoughts aswell

[simple junco]

Would be pretty good for AB purposes tho

[clear heath]

Remember how i said burns start building up headtaker stacks when you switch
The stacks persist when you switch back
So it seems you need the weapon out to build stacks, but the stacks are global once you have them

You could actually use headtaker to buff your burn damage

just by getting the stacks first in melee before you start burning shit

same applies to any stacking blessing probably

[next pine]

how long does headtaker last?

I don't have a weapon with the perk

[clear heath]

well the one i used says 3.5 seconds

so i guess it's not actually that practical

but i'm sure there's some blessing you could abuse with this

[uncut coral]

aigh. I need help. Leveld a gaurdsman and a zealot to 30, but psyker is such a completely different beast i have no idea how to play it right

[next pine]

its cool still

[clear heath]

imagine meleeing to boost the damage of your gun

[next pine]

could be a fun gameplay loop if they leaned into it

dive in for some smacks

[uncut coral]

I'm at level 10 with psyker and doing missions is borderline impossible unless i have semi-compitent teammates lol

[next pine]

back up to drop a burst

[jovial frigate]

uh

[uncut coral]

Currently running a force sword and a surge staff. with feat 2 and 3

[dense cloud]

man so many good sinerys ad in the same row of traits T_Pt

[uncut coral]

What should i be doing different.

should i stick with guns till i get voidstrike and or the warp flamer staff?

and should i stick to axes instead of force swords till later? Need some help

The trauma staff seems pretty bad, but the surge staff doesnt seem that much better.

[clear heath]

Sticking with surge staff is fine. I and many people use it for endgame

It's mostly for crowd control and that can feel kinda irrelevant for lower difficulties tho

[uncut coral]

Yea i definitely need damage as opposed to crowd control, i'm struggling to do much on malice let alone any other difficulty

[jovial frigate]

should pretty much just be psyker base 5% crit here. questionable

[clear heath]

I think the stacks probably work when you switch

[next pine]

I donno man that seemed pretty conclusive

That was a ton of crits for that to be only 5%

[clear heath]

I think every blessing that works off stacks persist when you swap

[dense cloud]

it only works wit puraga ?

[clear heath]

It's very noticeable with things that increase damage

[dense cloud]

cos when i tryed it with my fs and surge it dont crit XD

[uncut coral]

What are the best weapons for psyker btw?

[clear heath]

I am smacking things with my headtaker axe to gain stacks and then hitting more damage with my bullets

[jovial frigate]

yeah its noticeable like i believe u said earlier with soulblaze esp

was swapping to my axe after dotting up unarmoreds earlier for the extra dam

[clear heath]

my axe is buffing my gun

[drowsy fog]

I wanna just start waking every demonhost I see. People so scared

[ornate hamlet]

Not scared, it's just never worth it. At all

[drowsy fog]

Is any part of the mission really worth it?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes??

[clear heath]

I mean, you get rewards for doing the mission
You don't get anything for fighting a demonhost aside from corruption damage and unnecessary risk

[jovial frigate]

the part that completes it is pretty good

[clear heath]

They should make a mission with a required demonhost boss fight for the people who really want a reason to fight one

[foggy whale]

worth grabbin this? https://i.imgur.com/Fwd8H5a.png

[timber shale]

I certainly would

The stats aren’t amazing but the damage is high enough, and the perks/blessings are good

[drowsy fog]

The worth comes from cleansing the filth from the imperium D:<

[jovial frigate]

really depends what part of the game youre at, if youre dying for a decent force sword get it, if youre fishing for bis, then there's bigger fish

[heavy wigeon]

Can't kill heretics if you're dead.

[jovial frigate]

it'll def carry you until you can get a good like 365+ tho

[drowsy fog]

For real tho rewards are fuck all

[drowsy fog]

Just don't die

[jovial frigate]

max wounds suicide bomber and proffessional dreg prisoner

[steel egret]

321

[kindred sphinx]

works other way around also i think, i saw a zealot shooting hordes to power up his thunder hammer to hit a plague ogryn

[dense cloud]

omfg wtf is thsi new bugg? i got disconed or is this that people kick you ?

it takes you back to the oprator screen

[steel egret]

then its not a kick

[dense cloud]

and cant rejoin match

[steel egret]

kick takes you to hub

apparently.

[dense cloud]

omfg

2de time today

at end of map

almost

[drowsy fog]

When does the timer for time to die penance start? I'd assume when the health bar shows up

[cyan notch]

on hit

[valid frigate]

How often does the store refresh?

[sage rivet]

it refreshes about every 3600 seconds

[dim cradle]

Just venting here, but I hate shotgunner enemies 😩 I feel like they're the mainly the reason I'll end up going down in clutch scenarios. A few of them sprinkled in with other enemies and 💥 toughness gone, followed quickly with 💀

[inner gyro]

for curios what are psykers best ones?

like wht stats

[dense cloud]

get teh touness vs ranged perk and 60% gunner resist 🙂

[dim cradle]

ooooo smart 🧠 💯

[valid marsh]

yes

Daemonhosts have no purpose but to be avoided

or to supply yourself with a vain sense of accomplishment

[ebon jolt]

Block efficiency is pretty good on curious if you use the top level 20 feat. I’m a fan of ability CDR.

[valid marsh]

sabers have very high stamina regen

[jovial frigate]

witches u cant crown

[valid marsh]

the m5 saber is probably the best for a psyker who's up shit creek against a lot of melee targets aside from the m5 axe

[small hornet]

Surge staff is bugged and has no crits

rn

right?

[valid marsh]

m5 axe won't let you leave the bad situation but it'll let you fight back

[small hornet]

Is that why my staff turned into dogshit since last patch right

[lethal folio]

No.

[small hornet]

Hmmmm

Alright

[reef imp]

I mean, it depends what you have now. For me, yaaaaaaaas.

[brave plume]

Gunner resist doesn’t help with shot gunner

[dense cloud]

whaat its a gunner

and i just noticed it working so idk

tanked shot to da face fomr sg and onlt took low dmg Xd so idk

[silk flax]

To my Trauma Users. Which staff is better? Left or Right

[vivid merlin]

probably the right

but I have already given up on trauma

[cursive pecan]

Personally I would say the right, it has 25% higher warp resistance, for the price of 15% quell speed and 2 damage.

And is also overall better stat wise.

[silk flax]

Okiieee Ty val and alyssa

[sour bison]

Right

[vivid merlin]

did they ever fix Warp Absorption to work on soulblaze kills

[reef imp]

There are trauma users?!

[severe folio]

they like the thingy

[simple junco]

Yeah, trauma is a pretty popular underdog staff

[long wharf]

well, it's definitely an underdog staff

[supple skiff]

its definitely a staff

[simple junco]

One of the staffs of all time

[vivid merlin]

deflector doesn't seem to work on sniper shots

[simple junco]

Pretty sure it goes through anything at the moment

Even ogryn shields

[vivid merlin]

it doesn't go through ogryn shield if the ogryn is the one targeted

[clear heath]

why can bulwarks block zealot and psyker flames but our ogryns can't block flamers?

why do we have inferior ogryns?

[long wharf]

because ours are rejects

[clear heath]

damn

[nimble needle]

Right, IMO

[patent hatch]

Right

Also

More Traumua chads

Big up

[tawny maple]

Aka masochists

[left basin]

trads

[drowsy cosmos]

Finally got lvl 30 so I want to start building a gear set not around leveling, which curio perks are best? Currently all three have +1 wounds but the perks are more for bonus XP and loot

I’ve read a few articles and they all differ

[vivid merlin]

all toughness

[prisma minnow]

Can't go wrong with toughness and toughness regen

[jovial frigate]

is stam still wonky af on curios

did they ever solve that riddle

[true torrent]

I may only be running heresy but the voidstaff seems pretty good, is it bad in damnation or does it just have a bad rap?

[kindred sphinx]

U need - peril and salvo dmg blessing but it's good

[jovial frigate]

void is pretty good, i think general consensus is that. if you're being sweaty, losing the control that surge provides in damn is ruff but it's definitely a good staff

[night marten]

does anybody feel like toughness regen isn't effective on curios?? I haven't done real testing, just a feeling

[jovial frigate]

iirc tough regen is bugged

[kindred sphinx]

I have a good void but the aoe is too low for my liking

[true torrent]

I do have a decent staff with flurry and salvo, maybe thats why I like it so much

[jovial frigate]

highest base i've seen but god damn everything else is trash

[kindred sphinx]

The- peril on weakspot blessing with the toughness for reducing peril feat is a good combo

I used to run void allot but atm I'm just playing crit purge because psyker feats are only designed for this staff and no other staff actually has a coherent build

That alone actually makes purge pretty strong which is cringe

[kindred sphinx]

Right, aoe scaling is huge on that staff and warp resistance is better than quelling

[prisma minnow]

Honestly I tun the t1 regen toughness on quell so I can generally keep myself topped up as needed

[dense cloud]

man just did a t1 and got 115 palsteel in 14 min speed urn asssin 😄 might be the wayto get plasteel fast XD

[spiral lion]

but... but purging heretics!

[orchid nacelle]

yeah purgatus is the only staff explicitly supported by feats

which i find... counterintuitive

it feels like the chosen way is FS+purg

[white turret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zty8ch/psa_the_surge_staff_is_not_bugged_and_does_still/

[drowsy cosmos]

Salvo?

[orchid nacelle]

surge staff is funny

it reminds me of how like, in an action rpg type game like diablo, lightning damage is wildly inconsistent or has an extremely wide range

like 1-1000

but instead they chose to portray inconsistency of electrical damage by making it feel ACTUALLY inconsistent

instead of just having a wide range of variance

[long wharf]

yeah surge damage has a very large variance according to my tests in the meat grinder

[icy marten]

Which one to roll of? i was thinking 20% flask would be best option

flak*

[long wharf]

that is a badass staff

[icy marten]

yeah, got lucky 😛

[long wharf]

I'd personally prefer to see quell speed and warp resist swapped, but just the same, nice find

[foggy whale]

definitely roll +25% something, not +20

[icy marten]

special ranged dmg replaced?

[long wharf]

yeah

could get +horde, +weakspot, etc

[ebon jolt]

My personal preference is +25% flak damage. I’m so jealous of that staff…

[long wharf]

is the void staff weak against flak normally?

[icy marten]

tho i jsut rolled 20% flak to it

might go for 25 flak

yay

[ebon jolt]

Nice! You can always use it for a couple games or test it and then keep rolling it to try new things.

[icy marten]

ye

i've been using purgatus recently, just got this beauty and decided to test it out

[runic gate]

Nice rod @icy marten

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-this-turned-out-pretty-darn-shazam-staff-shazam-magic-staff-the-hacksmith-gif-14514194

[icy marten]

what talents you guys use? currently 1,1,2,2,3,3. I have deflector blaze

[icy marten]

thanks!

i mean 2,2,1,1,3,3*

[ebon jolt]

I use 3/1/2/1/3/3 with my void staff. Personal preference.

[white cedar]

how do you guys mix curio perk for deflector? 3 gunner resis 3 block effi 3 random?

[ebon jolt]

I like ability CDR. I know some people like extra toughness or health though.

[bleak tulip]

just get toughness

gunner resist doesnt help you against regular shooters or shotgunners

and as psyker you shouldnt get shot at by gunners much because you can do your job more or less from cover most of the time

[true torrent]

Toughness scales like crap on psyker, stacking it might save you from one extra bullet

[cyan notch]

idk why people take gunner resist

[night marten]

yea I'm running toughness curios right now and I feel squishy as hell

[cyan notch]

they dont even do any damage to you most of the time

id go block efficiency + toughness regen speed + sniper/mutant resist

[south monolith]

Standing behind teammates>Gunner Resist

[night marten]

idk why health feels so good

• corruption resist

[bleak tulip]

"one bullet" #psyker-class message

[true torrent]

Regen speed only effect toughness from coherency

[cyan notch]

i wonder if corruption resist + corruption resist (grim) stacks

[bleak tulip]

you overestimate how much damage the average shooter does, this is a gunner and its only ~10 per shot

[south monolith]

Health actually is better than grim resist(if it worked) since it is a flat amount of corruption per grim.

[bleak tulip]

like yeah toughness aint doing shit againt shotguns and such but thats true for basically every class

[true torrent]

"one extra bullet" not sure what your argument is with that vid

[night marten]

but dont normal ranged dudes do way more damage per volley?

[bleak tulip]

its the first that came to mind where it shows a psyker taking damage from a gunner

on a higher difficulty

[night marten]

yea feel like gunners are possibly less of a threat than normal ranged guys

[cyan notch]

that video is weird idk how his stamina just shoots up after depleting

[night marten]

even one or two are just as dangerous as a gunner

[runic gate]

Too bad this Melk special isn't another Antax Mk V...

[south monolith]

Toughness is more or less damage reduction for HP, as long as you have some.

[bleak tulip]

I mean ask tyr no idea

either way my toughness arely breaks since I went full toughness so I run that

*from shooters

feels to me like its making a difference, and thats all toughness really is for

[true torrent]

I just run some extra health and wounds, since I can't go a match without self destructing at least twice

[bleak tulip]

soaking one melee hit without health damage and allowing you to get out of dodge when being shot at

[cyan notch]

i mean everyone gets one free melee hit

[lucid mortar]

I run health as well. It really just depends on preferred play style.

[bleak tulip]

yeah I was talking about toughness in general, you dont get toughness curios for melee

[fresh reef]

any laspistol enjoyers here?

[lucid mortar]

I don’t like that fire drains toughness no matter what so I go health

[bleak tulip]

dont stand in the fire

but for real, going health feels like admitting defeat

[south monolith]

Stam regen likely

[lucid mortar]

Don’t act like you do t get hit by bombers lol

[bleak tulip]

rarely, mostly on zealot because I am actually in the shit

as psyker its exceedingly rare

since you get a lot of mobility

[night marten]

if defeat means toughness going to zero, yea I get defeated fairly regularly lol

[bleak tulip]

and you keep uptime despite being dislocated by bombs

[south monolith]

Stamina
Career Base Stamina
[base_stamina] Stamina Regen Delay(sec)
[regeneration_delay] Stamina Regen Speed(per sec)
[regeneration_per_second]
Veteran Sharpshooter 2 1.25 1
Zealot Preacher 3 0.75 1.5
Psyker Psykinetic 1 0.5 1
Ogryn Skullbreaker 4 1 1

Pysker has the shortest stam regen delay

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/guides/?browsesort=mostrecent&browsefilter=mostrecent&requiredtags[0]=English&p=1#scrollTop=0

Via Royal Cheese

[cyan notch]

that doesnt really explain the video

[south monolith]

It has to be regen speed, there isn't another way to affect stam for pyskers

[cyan notch]

ok but if u watch it shoots up from 0 -> 100 in less than a second

that doesnt make sense

[true torrent]

level 5 traits

[cyan notch]

what about em

[bleak tulip]

...have nothing to do with stam

just ask tyr about the video the next time you see em

[cyan notch]

almost as if getting shot regens stamina per bullet taken

[south monolith]

Might be something with deflector, unless its just correlation.

[fresh reef]

tried to make something a bit more unique looking, since it feels like everyone and their mother is wearing imperial red today

[bleak tulip]

hmm, does stam regen increase when your stam is broken, because thats what it looks like happens once peril goes to 80 and it soaks through stam

[lucid mortar]

Deflector only works outside critical peril, then it drains his stam then gets staggered and yeah it just resets stam lol

Weird

[cyan notch]

its 90 not 80 but yea

[south monolith]

Can't rule out network/UI issues either.

[bleak tulip]

seems like a stretch

[cyan notch]

when it gets to 90 deflector stops gaining peril it eats his stamina and it drains from blocking and then his guard is broken bc stamina gone and he starts taking toughness damage again but his stamina is magically full so he can block for a bit more

[south monolith]

Unless it is a repeatable thing we won't know for sure.

[lucid mortar]

Stam doesn’t reset when toughness breaks does it?

[bleak tulip]

it regens in 25% steps for several frames

its not just "magically full"

[echo parrot]

Did new cosmetics drop today?

[orchid nacelle]

i wonder how long class releases are going to be delayed due to designing penances for them

[bleak tulip]

imma just put this here again so I dont have to keep going back up

and vlc sucks at frame by frame

[orchid nacelle]

i wonder if they're going to drop penances altogether or if they're going to standardize them across every class

into generic "do X thing Y times"

[bleak tulip]

toughness isnt broken when the stam comes back either

[bleak tulip]

implying much thought was given to penances

[cyan notch]

yea its not instantly but pretty much

which is why my hypothesis is that getting shot with 0 stamina regens it the more u get shot

[orchid nacelle]

it certainly feels like some classes' feats are designed with certain penances in mind and not vice versa

like how kinetic barrage lasts for almost exactly long enough to make Pick n Mix viable

[bleak tulip]

this by all means seems like nonsense

[bleak tulip]

and this proves that its not the other way around how exactly?

knowing how long KB lasts could have influence the timer for pick and mix

[orchid nacelle]

i have conspiracy theories

[bleak tulip]

evidently so

y'all need to stop making up new ways to shit on the devs as if there isnt enough valid stuff to shit on alredy lol

[orchid nacelle]

i'm not doing it out of meanspiritedness

i just think it would be funny

if that were the case

[sour stirrup]

Oi so...

I'm testing a feat and it is being interesting

[orchid nacelle]

crackpot theories and psykers are practically synonyms

[sour stirrup]

Gonna change a thing and see if I'm losing my mind

[proud mantle]

do warp charges affect soulblaze dmg? i have no idea how to test this consistently

[sour stirrup]

I'll test it in a second

My gut says no

[proud mantle]

so then are warp charges even worth for blaze builds

[bleak tulip]

soulblaze is impacted by power yes

[sour stirrup]

I want to talk about the brain burst increasing damage by 15% applying to other brainbursts

[jovial frigate]

soulblaze is literally affected by %dam and blessings on your melee weapon

[bleak tulip]

considering that a good chunk of the damage of purg builds comes from the direct damage of the staff its about as useful as for any other weapon

[orchid nacelle]

i wish that Kinetic Shield and Kinetic Deflection weren't mutually exclusive now that Shield is peril based and not warp charge based

they would synergise quite well

[jovial frigate]

i.e. if you swap to your melee weapon while a ttarget is dotted, it will inherit %dam from the melee weapon should it apply

[bleak tulip]

get a slaughterer weapon, get stacks and observe, its the biggest reliable +power you can get in the psykhanium

[sour stirrup]

Yeah so....brain burst doesn't count as a "warp source" for damage and feat purposes.

[icy marten]

nice rings

[sour stirrup]

Which means that Cerebral Lacerations amplifies chained brain bursts.

[bleak tulip]

that doesnt seem right at all

[jovial frigate]

also uh i found out earlier

its seeming like shred melee wep blessing is applying crit to secondary

[sour stirrup]

I goofed a tad but

[spiral wyvern]

Ya know what would be better?

Not fucking that

[placid glen]

thanks to a friendly Ogryn, i have to announce: i have done it

[sour stirrup]

https://puu.sh/JuS5U/86c10b63c2.jpg

First BB

https://puu.sh/JuS5Y/f8bf703843.jpg

Second BB

[spiral wyvern]

Holy shit whattup King Arthur?

[sour stirrup]

Cerebral Lacerations isn't warp damage.

[spiral wyvern]

Also what did you do?

[sour stirrup]

Err

Brain Burst isn't warp damage.

[spiral wyvern]

Oh

[icy marten]

nicee, i have 14 missions left for tier 3 helm

[sour stirrup]

So cerebral lacerations makes Brain Bursts kinda good when chained.

[placid glen]

dmg a monster 90% HP on heresy only with head pop

[orchid nacelle]

does that mean that Laceration could feasibly help you hit a 2-3 bb breakpoint?

[sour stirrup]

So when my build is...

123113

[long wharf]

that's wacky

[proud mantle]

this is weird cause doesnt feat 2 in lv 5 feat give 10% toughness on bb?

[bleak tulip]

4 charges is 12%, 6 is 18, so 5 charges is the same % damage boost

[jovial frigate]

that test was basically just the axe + a crap purg staff with no crit on it. should have 5% crit at the moment of using purg there

[sour stirrup]

When you're at 6 charges, and using Laceration, you drop Maulers in 2, Bulwarks in 2, Reapers and Crushers in 3.

[jovial frigate]

just cus psyker base crit is 5

[orchid nacelle]

POG

[sour stirrup]

On Dif 5

I should clarify I'm testing this on Dif 5

[bleak tulip]

okay now go test it in an actual match

[sour stirrup]

I mean I play a build like this all the time

[bleak tulip]

because psykh is fucky with some stuff

[orchid nacelle]

i've honestly wanted an excuse to use cerebral lactations more

it's one of my favourite feats

[bleak tulip]

I mean its by no means bad since youre still gonna use BB on bulwarks and crushers anyway

its just that the other two talens are very competetive

[manic needle]

In a real match those mobs are dead long before you can chain burst them unless you have an oddball party composition or a group with unusual loadouts

[bleak tulip]

Kin Barrage

in a real match you use kinetic barrage any time you BB

[orchid nacelle]

i feel weird not having the 15% cdr for teammates feat

feels like it contributes the most to the overall impact

[bleak tulip]

its only like 5 seconds, dont worry about it

[jovial frigate]

kb + cdr makes bb feel more useable too

[bleak tulip]

especially since psyker isnt exactly the one getting most elite kills in 4-5

[sour stirrup]

It's usable as hell without the extra CDR

[jovial frigate]

more useable =! not useable

[bleak tulip]

its just much less of a waste of time to pop KB every time you BB

[manic needle]

GOOD take, Kinetic Barrage over Ascendant Blaze any day of the week for me

[sour stirrup]

BB can crit?

[bleak tulip]

no

[sour stirrup]

Oh wait

Wait wait wait

[sinful stream]

but pretty fire

[sour stirrup]

How fucking wonk is the code on BB

[jovial frigate]

wym

[sour stirrup]

Kinetic Flayer can proc on BB

[jovial frigate]

the ability probably just has a label of like cancrit= false

[bleak tulip]

yeah

it can

[sour stirrup]

That's wild

[bleak tulip]

not really

its an attack

[sour stirrup]

I mean for just like weird amounts of damage output

[jovial frigate]

yeah its convenient when something dies in one less brainburst and kinda funny

[orchid nacelle]

i think of kinetic flayer as being a janky way to say "brain burst can now crit"

[jovial frigate]

not wrong

[sour stirrup]

Yeah so I don't think taking 6 stacks is a good thing to do even in Dif 5 with laceration.

Without 6 stacks you just have to BB a Bulwark one more time

And everything else is about the same, so I think Flayer is better there.

[sinful stream]

until they change the way charges decay/if force sword charged kills would give charges

[bleak tulip]

nothing quite like meleeing a crusher and getting kinetic flayer with slaughterer stacks and just oneshotting it

[lucid mortar]

I do my best to not care about stacks at all lol

[orchid nacelle]

i just wish that CASTING brain burst would give you a warp charge whether or not it actually kills things

it seems pointless to have an action tax upkeep cost if you can't actually upkeep it reliably by design

[manic needle]

Depends really. 6 stacks is fine if you're surge or voidstrike spamming

[jovial frigate]

brainburst alt fire should just let you generate a warp charge

[orchid nacelle]

yes.

or at least

it should make it so that they don't decay

[manic needle]

Some builds arent built around brain bursting at all, or as little as possible

[orchid nacelle]

while you're charging it

[sinful stream]

kinetic overload makes me care (i know its ass but im using it till they buff it out of protest)

[cyan notch]

6 stacks = more peril resist

[jovial frigate]

6 stack warp charge and soulblaze builds become a little more serious too tho with that

[sour stirrup]

In regards to running it with Laceration, you can just run Laceration to have equally effective BBs

And then take something else at 25

[orchid nacelle]

if you hold charge with brain burst it should pause the timer on your warp charges until you release it

[sour stirrup]

It doesn't help with that specific breakpoint that much

[orchid nacelle]

or reset it even

[bleak tulip]

im just reposting this

so you dont have to waste your time doing it over

[manic needle]

Honestly after trying Communion, I dont see myself ever not having Communion lol.

It would be hard to convince me to drop it

[bleak tulip]

pretty much

the biggest problem with lacerations is the fact that you gotta use BB

[south monolith]

It is the most useable on a boss

[sour stirrup]

Yeah Communion is insane and I think should have been baked into the Psyker kit

[bleak tulip]

I mean bosses arent a big issue in general though

[orchid nacelle]

communion should have been an iconic skill

why psyker only have 2 iconics but zealot has 3

[south monolith]

Yup

[bleak tulip]

sure is a lot better than battle meditation lol

[orchid nacelle]

meditation is great on trauma

[manic needle]

Does lacerations affect your allies' attacks as well, or just your own? I dont think Ive ever tested it.

If the latter then its literally worthless

[sour stirrup]

Hard to test

[bleak tulip]

meditation is just so inconsistent that you cant rely on it

which makes it stupid

[jovial frigate]

all non warp sources is implying (to me) that it effects everyone

[bleak tulip]

like its neat when it triggers but its not something you can ever plan for

[jovial frigate]

there would not be a reason to take it otherwise tbh

[bleak tulip]

yes, the wording of lacerations makes it read as though its meant as a damage buff for everything but BB and staves

[manic needle]

Yeah but thats also what I thought about the Ogryn's "Toughness regen in coherency" talent when I first read it. Fatshark really just sucks with descriptions tbh

[bleak tulip]

but I guess not

[orchid nacelle]

i interpret "non warp sources" as "anything that isn't a force staff"

[jovial frigate]

including barrels

[lucid mortar]

I’d like to see warp charges act more like combo points we can build up and selectively release for bigger dmg. They’re just not fun right now

[orchid nacelle]

i feel like warp charges were designed by someone who played too much path of exile

they saw power/frenzy/endurance charges

[sour stirrup]

Yeah except BB is coded as a friggin gun instead of a Warp Weapon.

[orchid nacelle]

thought "mmm i take that"

[sinful stream]

For pick n mix do different types of gunners ie scab and dregm or shotgunners or ragers, count as seperate types?

[bleak tulip]

I dont recall what BB technically is, I think we've talked about this before

[cyan notch]

does kinetic overload get applied to demonhosts

[sour stirrup]

It's weird.

[jovial frigate]

idk if shotgunners are included in gunner resist or not but i feel like those guys just have a toughness dam modifier lol