psyker-class

[vagrant cedar]

exctly, missions, not maps

[wet gust]

How its made?

[cyan notch]

yea theyre not particularly memorable either

[vale terrace]

What blessings do I want on Voidstrike, other than that -peril on weakspot one?

[untold surge]

Just replace the rats with dark tide mobs, and make up some lore about the feudal world in the atoman system, release "New"™️ maps for darktide

[vagrant cedar]

it is running on vermintide engine tho

just w40k skin mod on

[coarse ether]

the image file? i used ezgif site

[wild pilot]

fatshark I beg you, separate guns from staves for psyker

[grave bobcat]

No!

[steel flame]

The people who actually made the game are amazing but sadly don't make the decisions. Fuck the people that push out half finished games. Imagine if you put your heart and soul into something only to see it get panned because your boss refuses to let you finish your work

[vagrant cedar]

how do you know that they are amazing

[near wyvern]

Warp flurry and transfer peril is the wombo combo

[vagrant cedar]

what if they half-assed the work?

[steel flame]

I can look at the maps that do exist.

[vagrant cedar]

maps != the code

you don't get disconnects and crashes and shit from the "how pretty the map looks"

[grave bobcat]

And its coders. ofc they half assed it 😄

It's a trained skill

[steel flame]

I like pretty maps, bite me

[vagrant cedar]

imagine you build a bike

good bike

[grave bobcat]

I think they look pretty

[vagrant cedar]

then you build a 2nd bike

but then you build a 3rd bike, and it can barely ride

explain that

[grave bobcat]

Sounds like someone progressing through dementia

[steel flame]

Oof

[vagrant cedar]

seems so

[bleak sonnet]

we know theyre great devs because fartshart, as surprising as it is, made vt2

[steel flame]

I'm not saying shit wasn't rushed, I have eyes. I'm saying that not everything is trash

[wet raven]

just wait until you can alter blessings in about 2 years

[grave bobcat]

You have eyes?

[vagrant cedar]

oh the, the map generator done a great job

to make it full of stuff

[steel flame]

Its debatable whether I have eyes or not

Jury is still out on that

[grave bobcat]

Didn't think you were the type tbh

[steel flame]

Angry confusion best sumes up how I feel about darktide

[grave bobcat]

"Man shakes fist at PC monitor"

[vagrant cedar]

this sums up pretty well

[echo parrot]

May the moon presence bless us with more eyes so that we may see

[grave bobcat]

No!

[echo parrot]

Insight: 99

[grave bobcat]

Can only use "Insight" indoors sorry.

[echo parrot]

I don't think you are getting the reference and that makes me very sad

[grave bobcat]

Sorry your references have been out of control lately its hard to keep up

lmao

But no not at all 🥲

[echo parrot]

Bloodborne cry's in it's coffin

[grave bobcat]

Been so long since I've played or seen content from Bloodborne lol

[uncut hamlet]

Someone help

[mild canopy]

Dear oh dear what was it? The quell bug? The Surge VFX? Or the terrible shop rng? No matter, it all comes down, to the psykers helpers to clean up after these sorts of messes...

[uncut hamlet]

why does damnation and heresy give almost 1:1

when you need 4x more plasteel than diamantine

[mild canopy]

Im in the opposite camp, i got 3k plasteel and no diamantine

[uncut hamlet]

trade

[mild canopy]

I wish, all my grind is for diamantine

[uncut hamlet]

Are you playing on the higher difficulties?

it seems to be everywhere

[mild canopy]

Yup, but it gets used super fast when Refining or Consecrating

[burnt python]

cal

when do you sleep

[uncut hamlet]

Refining and consecrating both use more

plasteel though

[grave bobcat]

when I can usually

[burnt python]

are you in uk?

[grave bobcat]

yeah

[mild canopy]

Idk i just have shitton of plasteel saved up and diamantine takes like 350 at the end, plasteel is cheaper i think

[burnt python]

hows uk weather today

[lucid mortar]

Breaking down items should reward crafting mats at the higher tier quality levels. And/or we should be able to trade dockets for crafting mats imo

[burnt python]

its fucking cold here

[grave bobcat]

Fuck knows I haven't looked outside lol

[burnt python]

lmao

[grave bobcat]

I've not been downstairs yet since i woke up lol

But a reasonable guess

Cold and miserable

[burnt python]

all icy out here

roads are fucked

[jovial frigate]

i went outside for the first time in like 4 days last night

driveway was covered in thigh high snow

[bleak sonnet]

sheesh

makes me love living in fl

not a bit of snow

[burnt python]

i'll take snow over fl humidity every day lol

[grave bobcat]

I like snow so I'd be sad if it never happened tbh

[burnt python]

and hurricanes

[jovial frigate]

yeah but you also risk your house getting deleted by water

[dense cloud]

ahhahahaahaha i have 4 defelcotrs now 😄

[bleak sonnet]

my house is insured

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[bleak sonnet]

🫶🏻

[grave bobcat]

USA USA USA

[burnt python]

life insurance? lol

[warm flint]

best mk dueling sword? tell me your thoughts

[bleak sonnet]

i love USA

usa best country

[grave bobcat]

BOR NI NTHE UUSSAAA

GOTTA FEELin

[bleak sonnet]

no other country can i make 6 figures from the comfort of my own home working 3hrs a day

love USA healthcare

[grave bobcat]

Guess I odn't exist then 😦

[burnt python]

u make fake dollars doesn't count

[bleak sonnet]

😳

[grave bobcat]

WHy are the fake ones worth more than the real ones ?

[burnt python]

oh thems fightin words

[grave bobcat]

lmao

truth hurts

[bleak sonnet]

i still live with mommy 😇

[burnt python]

truth isn't real usa usa usa

[grave bobcat]

smart tbh

[bleak sonnet]

go gym, eat whatever mommy makes me

[jovial frigate]

murica

[stuck basalt]

deflector can't block sniper?

[bleak sonnet]

nope

[grave bobcat]

Lmao

Everyone seems to learn this at least once

[stuck basalt]

"ranged" attack dev say

[grave bobcat]

I'm surprised people expected it to work

[bleak sonnet]

idk why u wouldnt just press space on instant

instinct*

[grave bobcat]

One of those days where cant find that comfy position in my cahir -.-

[random wolf]

"I should be sa-"

[bleak sonnet]

i wish i was home in my chaie

chair

hospital chairs are never comfy

[orchid nacelle]

hey guys so

if i reroll a stat before i consecrate it to have two stats

does it retroactively lock the second stat

[random wolf]

It's cheaper

[grave bobcat]

I'd assume so

[bleak sonnet]

believe so

[modest fable]

How do I vent

[bleak sonnet]

psychologist

[random wolf]

Go to #general-chat and start typing what you're not happy about.

You probably mean Quell and we're being mean though.

[stuck basalt]

why the description order not consistent

[modest fable]

button plz ;-;

[random wolf]

Reload with staff, force sword or in Brain burst stance.

[grave bobcat]

Press G and reload those hands

[bleak sonnet]

brian burst

[orchid nacelle]

WHAT

is rending

[bleak sonnet]

armor rend

reduced armor

[orchid nacelle]

i see

is it a global armour reduction or only for your attacks

[bleak sonnet]

not sure

i believe global

[mild canopy]

Do people have more toughness in lower difficulties? Cant get in game to look

[bleak sonnet]

no

[grave bobcat]

nop

[mild canopy]

But lvling up a vet and he has 200 toughness

[orchid nacelle]

yep that's normal

[mild canopy]

Oh ok

[grave bobcat]

base toughness

[bleak sonnet]

:p

[mild canopy]

[grave bobcat]

100 - Orgyn Psyker
200 - Vet
150 - Zealot

I think?

[bleak sonnet]

correct

[mild canopy]

Weird for psyker to have so little, if youd take the logic where Ranged focused class=more toughness, psyker should have 200 too no? Ogryns have like 200hp and are tanks so why do we share toughness

[bleak sonnet]

psyker meant to be a glass cannon

[grave bobcat]

Well I woudl say we're supposed to be squishy

but..

we're not lmfao

[bleak sonnet]

but someone at fartshart blazed up at work while designing psyker

[grave bobcat]

Expected glass cannon, actually got paladin

[bleak sonnet]

i just play zealot now

but zealot chat sucks so i chill here

[valid lake]

yep with peril blocking and /or deflector we are invincible

[orchid nacelle]

well and

block cost reduction

much like vermintide

BCR reigns supreme

[bleak sonnet]

bcr is quite nice

less so on psyk tho imo

i love it on zealot

[orchid nacelle]

doesn't BCR reduce the amount of peril you generate from peril blocking

[valid lake]

i would assume so

[bleak sonnet]

believe so but its already quite low and most psyker melees lack damage so damage perks reign superior imo

unless axe

to hit breakpoints

[grave bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/looney-tunes-quarantine-sleeping-sleeping-beauty-beauty-sleep-gif-16980796

dagger

[orchid nacelle]

it's probably quite nice for the rare occasion where you have to eat sustained fire from like 30 shooters at once

with deflector

[bleak sonnet]

for sure, but i tend to prefer gearing for things that always help me

not in uncommon scenarios

[orchid nacelle]

true

[burnt python]

hp and more hp gang

fuck utility

[orchid nacelle]

i run purgatus and fs or antax for single target

the bcr makes deflector much more comfy

[mild canopy]

My psyker hobby is putting duelist blade and solo tanking demonhost in quickplays where people are pussy going around it

[grave bobcat]

dies

[mild canopy]

With duelist blade and kinetic feat its impossible to die to it

[valid lake]

orygns on unemployment watch

[orchid nacelle]

sounds kind of suicidal on anything higher than malice

[mild canopy]

Didnt try damnation but last 2 mins in heresy for sure

[orchid nacelle]

but if it works i can't argue with the results

[wet raven]

no, zealot has 100, but 200 hp

[orchid nacelle]

that's psyker

[burnt python]

psyker has 150hp

[orchid nacelle]

oh right i'm running health curios

lol

[burnt python]

i have 255 w/ 3 hp curios

[wet raven]

let me put this here
class, toughness, hp
psy 100 150
vet 200 150
zealot 100 200
ogryn 100 300

these are the bases before curios

[cyan notch]

until they leave you alone and go on with the mission

[grave bobcat]

Wtf you lied to me

goddamn florida man

[lucid mortar]

Is "rending" a debuff on a particular enemy or a buff on your character/weapon?

[bright raft]

help me spark'eads, this is pretty good right?

[lucid mortar]

like when it says "5% reding on weakspot hit"

[burnt python]

it's a personal buff

[echo parrot]

Is game good?

[burnt python]

brittleness is the "on enemy" equivalent

[lucid mortar]

oh nice

[grave bobcat]

Warp Flurry is currently broken blessing but its alright

[orchid nacelle]

so guys

[burnt python]

rly good

[bright raft]

ok ty!

[orchid nacelle]

toughness damage reduction stacks multiplicatively right

[bright raft]

ty!

[grave bobcat]

Don't listen to this guy he uses hp curios

A FOOL

[bright raft]

xD

[burnt python]

gonna start clipping myself reviving cal 5x per game when we play again

[grave bobcat]

If I go down its cause I'm last alive every time

[burnt python]

hahah

[grave bobcat]

Or I fell off a ledfge..

That happens a lot

[bright raft]

barrel go boom

[echo parrot]

Cal confirmed a required carry

[bright raft]

love killing friends >:)

[grave bobcat]

Not even that

I just find the most hidden away DROPS TO HELL

And fall in them every time

[mild canopy]

Happened to me once and then they returned when they saw i wasnt dying LOL

[grave bobcat]

I consider it a skill at this point

Letting my teammates know for the future

[echo parrot]

Alrighty guys, lets do a no pull up run. If you fall off an edge you are basically dead. First one to die buys everyone $20 worth of aquila. Cal is in.

[orchid nacelle]

how mUCH TDR DOES ONE NEED to become effectively invincible against non-fire damage or incaps

iti feels like there's a cap on it

[dense cloud]

doesnt edsxits

[echo parrot]

doesnt exist

[grave bobcat]

Sorry I'm sick that day

[orchid nacelle]

:(

[lucid mortar]

They really need to add a "favorite" system to item inventory

[burnt python]

yes

[lucid mortar]

or some kind of tagging

[burnt python]

or a search bar

or a filter

anything lol

[echo parrot]

I only have to scroll through 50+ knives in order to find what I am looking for and I am fine, stop being lazy.

[dense cloud]

lol now i m geting a defelctor ever hour 😄

[tight saddle]

Has blessing crafting come out yet?

[sacred lodge]

interesting... so apparently you take increased toughness damage if you're sprinting

[dense cloud]

i got 5now omfg

[burnt python]

next year lol

[lucid mortar]

I keep forgetting which item I intended to craft next, then I waste mats on something I just bought lol

[echo parrot]

2h force sword when

[sacred lodge]

after we get forces axes

[grave bobcat]

yup

[echo parrot]

Go to your corner and think about what youve done

[grave bobcat]

1.25x dmg

[sacred lodge]

gets out Warframe keybinds
perhaps all that bullet jumping practice CAN help me here, after all

slide to victory

[near wyvern]

That can't be right.

The menu should offer only 2 items from your inventory to choose from so that your vision won't get confused by the options, just like the cash shop.

Our smooth brains can't handle more than that.

[grave bobcat]

My character uses vaseline to keep their skin smooth and slide away from bullets

[burnt python]

pygex did you see my low quality trauma gameplay i pinged you on

[grave bobcat]

Go remake that clip

[near wyvern]

I saw the insta defeat one

If you have anything else it had been lost to this endless stream of demon screams

[echo parrot]

I am never resing you again

[near wyvern]

This is a really bad dream

[burnt python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvbVMBsF_w

[dense cloud]

im sad deflector not that goed its fun to use but wheit ot many guners or a reaper shoting at you you intsnat 100 perrel 😦 sad face

[grave bobcat]

You think people can slide like this "naturally"

Naw all greased up

[raw token]

yo i took a break the week after the game came out, since when did they make it so that the surge staff can be used above 85% peril?

[grave bobcat]

Trying to hug me is like gripping a wet bar of soap

[dense cloud]

always breen able to

[echo parrot]

On second thought. Stay about 10 feet away from me at all times, and only use that terminal, or sit in that chair. In fact mark both of them with these stickers so i know not to go near them.

[grave bobcat]

This is literally the perfect time to use the phrase

Slides into dms

[raw token]

no before if you hit 100% peril upon actiivating the secondary attack, you would go into death animation but now you can use it just like you would brainburst

[echo parrot]

👏 im out

[orchid nacelle]

i really hope they don't keep the cyan colour scheme for every psyker subclass

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

I'm smiling, and thats what is important

[orchid nacelle]

i want some purple or red

[bleak sonnet]

mwah

love darktide

[echo parrot]

You will keep your light cyan and you will be happy

[valid lake]

so you guys repping tramua staff i want the copium you guys are on just gave it a shot it bad the peril cost is to high

[orchid nacelle]

there's like 3 other chaos entities whose colour schemes you could draw from but we only get tzeentchish disinfectant scrubbing bubbles™️ minty fresh cyan

[sacred lodge]

I've also seen a few veterans do a "backwards" slide

[echo parrot]

They cant, they overdosed.

[sacred lodge]

I'm not sure how that's possible

[orchid nacelle]

purgatus staff looks like it smells like bleach

[raw token]

if you dodge and then insta slide you slide the direction you dodged

[orchid nacelle]

like i'm disinfecting the nurglites

[grave bobcat]

Dodge backwards then crouch

[sacred lodge]

weird

useful

but weird

[raw token]

its almost necessary to know if you play psyker lmao

[orchid nacelle]

you can dodge-slide in any direction

except forward in which case you just slide

[echo parrot]

Even up

[orchid nacelle]

yeah it's called jumping

[echo parrot]

Yeah the pros called the strat jumping

[orchid nacelle]

you rapidly flex the tendons in your legs to produce an upwards force in order to defeat the pull of gravity and elevate yourself briefly vertically

[valid lake]

power slide on BON slime is the best

[echo parrot]

Thats actualy jumping. I am talking about doging up.

[grave bobcat]

Pretty rude to the people without legs tbh

[orchid nacelle]

skill issue

[near wyvern]

@burnt python so trauma is basically just a melee psyker with a grenade

And a good roll on mk V is a requirement since you need auto quell and a solid melee weapon that can handle anything

[echo parrot]

Totally not purposely being dim to try and fuck with people

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316039237898338314/1026970560053379202/caption-1.gif

[grave bobcat]

Oh you were doing it on purpose?

Couldn't tell 😉

[burnt python]

yes its basically a different flavor rumbler or mega vet nade

[echo parrot]

bich

[grave bobcat]

lmao

[shut thorn]

Any of you excited for the new staff

[grave bobcat]

No!

[echo parrot]

What new staff

[shut thorn]

The one

[echo parrot]

Oh riiiggghtt

[cyan notch]

im excited for the game to be complete

[echo parrot]

BFG staff

Lets go

[shut thorn]

No BFG is in game

You know what I mean... The one

[near wyvern]

So purge and void are basically just direct upgrades

[shut thorn]

You can preview it at melk's by trusting his judgement 10 times

[valid lake]

yes

[dawn orchid]

The copium is called malicegaming

[fresh reef]

Trauma still has the best stagger values, but largely yes

[burnt python]

i would say they are both better but trauma does some things that neither of them do, namely deal w/ ogryn elites / bursters better

[dawn orchid]

surge staff has entered the chat

[shut thorn]

trauma lets you send dogs to space

[fresh reef]

Trauma dealing with bursters? I beg your pardon?

[near wyvern]

Killing is the strongest stagger there is. They are never coming back on their feet again.

[shut thorn]

the first being sent by humans into space was a dog

coincidence?

[burnt python]

trauma 1 shots bursters

better than staggering w/ surge

[grave bobcat]

Your mom went to space?

I had to

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[fresh reef]

You playing on Malice I'm guessing?

[grave bobcat]

It was an open goal

[dawn orchid]

You can stunlock a bunch of stuff with a surge instead

At the same time

[burnt python]

my man i just linked a video to me using trauma on damnation lol

[shut thorn]

You can stunlock a bunch of stuff with void instead

At the same time

[cold oasis]

If trauma would cost 1/3 peril, i would use it

[shut thorn]

It does

[dawn orchid]

Doesn't line up perfectly in a straight line

Checkmate

[shut thorn]

You get to charge it 3 times

[cold oasis]

1/3 peril less :V

[shut thorn]

Then you explode

On 4th

[cold oasis]

xd

[near wyvern]

Bursters take like 3 or was it 5 times more damage from explosion damage than regular, I guess trauma is counted as explosion. But so should void??

[orchid nacelle]

i will say that the trauma staff has the best animation out of all of the staves

[burnt python]

surge is certainly better whne your team is good but trauma kills shit better which matters when things arent going well

[orchid nacelle]

so in terms of sheer cool factor trauma wins

[burnt python]

and trauma takes kneecaps, so checkmate

[lucid mortar]

Deal breaker?

[cyan notch]

nah its mid

[fresh reef]

Oh, did not know about that

[cold oasis]

I mean, in cool factor having half the enemies jump out undamaged from the explosion is cool

[orchid nacelle]

bro your character literally SLAMS THE STAFF INTO THE GROUND WITH AUTHORITY

[cold oasis]

"Damn look at that dreg flying gracefully in the air"

[cyan notch]

surge is cooler

[orchid nacelle]

it's like you're slamming the gavel on your enemy's judgment

it's badass

[grave bobcat]

ye

[fresh reef]

I like making enemy gibs hit the ceiling

Best part of trauma for me

[orchid nacelle]

propel their kneecaps through their skull at mach 10

[fresh reef]

This is the way

[near wyvern]

@fresh reef

Correction, bursters take 30 times more damage from explosions

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z2pn4t/enemy_breed_armour_types_and_locational_damage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[burnt python]

kneecaps is the #1 item on my trauma propaganda handout

[proud mantle]

Might as well get it and keep it in case you never get anything better

I had to cause I got great rolls on everything but first target

[burnt python]

void explosion must not count as an "explosion" then i guess? still takes 2-3 full charge headshots to kill em on damn

[proud mantle]

And I've never seen another fs

[fresh reef]

Sweet fucking jesus

[near wyvern]

Yup. Can't be explosion in that case.

[fresh reef]

Afaik void m2 is the same projectile class as M1. Explosion radius just changes the hitbox size

[burnt python]

explosion radius does not change the projectile hitbox

only the detonation after hitting terrain/carapce/unyielding

but it explodes on bursters too so theres more funky shit going on w/ it

not sure why it dets on infested poxbursters but not other infested enemies

[shut thorn]

yes

[grave bobcat]

Reading that was some wild dejavu

[shut thorn]

finesse is most important stat

on fs

[proud mantle]

Last time I asked everyone said first target was the most important 💀

[cyan notch]

theyre all pretty important

[burnt python]

damage, first target, and finesse are all priority rolls on fs

[grave bobcat]

They all play off each other

[burnt python]

in fact i think dmg is less meaningful than first target & finesse

[grave bobcat]

mhm

[near wyvern]

Does it always detonate on hitting a special enemy?

[grave bobcat]

Finesse doesn't do good dmg without first target

[proud mantle]

Actually in my case I got a good deflector roll too so it was worth

[burnt python]

hmm possibly, would have to test can't say for sure

it can cleave elites for sure but not positive bout specials

[near wyvern]

Should be easy to do in meat grinder

[burnt python]

will check it out later when in game

[lucid mortar]

This is my current project, first blessing missed but the base is so good 😢

[proud mantle]

Uncanny isn't too bad

[jovial frigate]

everyone look he bought the toilet bowl costume

[lucid mortar]

I tagged it with the ugly skin so I dont delete it by accident

and yes I'm a MTX slut

[jovial frigate]

i buy them too but i didnt buy the toilet

[orchid nacelle]

best blessings for trauma staff

i'm guessing rending shockwave is good

[proud mantle]

Apply soulblaze stack on crit

[grave bobcat]

gimmie

[burnt python]

rending seems like the best on paper

[near wyvern]

They should buff trauma so that you can do 4 casts in a row and it should do auto-quelling all the time (even when casting)

[burnt python]

if they just tweak the peril gen on right click a bit it will be in a pretty good spot i think

[raw token]

auto quelling all the time would just be broken

[orchid nacelle]

they should buff it so that it actually has a radius instead of continuing this trend of warhammer titles having the most disappointingly sized aoe abilities in history

[burnt python]

auto quell would be too much because you can det full charge right clicks @ 99%

[orchid nacelle]

i mean like double what it is now

[proud mantle]

Trauma should be reworked so it hits everything on screen but gives 100% peril

[orchid nacelle]

yeah

[near wyvern]

At the speed of force weapons, no

[orchid nacelle]

it should be a castlevania sacred crux screenwipe

[river sand]

20% more aoe and 30% less peril and its the best staff

[orchid nacelle]

and more range

[river sand]

yeah range would be nice

[raw token]

even with the speed of force weapons, yes, quietude instantly would become the best t1 feat with no competition, and you can cast at 99% with the trauma staff so you just have infinite casts

[orchid nacelle]

can you quell tech trauma

[burnt python]

no

[orchid nacelle]

aw

that would be really silly

become the disco wizard

i'd like to try and juggle enemies with trauma quell tech

[steel flame]

Just make it the corustation staff and just make be super op again

[sharp ibex]

You can still be a disco wizard with some disco biscuits

[wet gust]

The combo

[orchid nacelle]

conflag/trauma staff is basically just path of exile's flameblast spell

[boreal sun]

You can still dunk on some vets, gryn, and zealot because they are inferior to psykers.

[orchid nacelle]

the difference being that flameblast is actually a gigantic aoe

and it sets people on fire too

[steel flame]

They could give us the thorn staff from vermintide and make everything float

[wet gust]

Pizza skill

[raw token]

pretty much just a reskinned surge staff lmao

[boreal sun]

They could give us 2handed force sword where the special pops everything it cleaves

[burnt python]

i miss bolt staff

[steel flame]

You ever use the sister of thorns staff?

[burnt python]

we need somethin more aim intensive than the current options

[wet gust]

I played that with totems, pretty shit build actually

[orchid nacelle]

vaal fb is pretty,,,, Lit

[near wyvern]

Crusher floating in air and then instagibs everything non-ogryn sized that is below it when it comes down

[raw token]

yeah i mained it, im just saying that the point was to cc important enemies and keep the special/elite cap controlled, the surge staff does the exact same thing

[steel flame]

Oh nevermind

[burnt python]

naw sot staff did it without using ur action economy its a p big difference

[wet gust]

Sadly PoE looks like an iddle game... You run and skills sre mostly auto

[burnt python]

surge removes enemies, while you are actively removing them

sot was cast and forget

[steel flame]

That

[runic gate]

First shop of the morning, I don't really use this sword, I prefer Axe, but this is a nice roll.

[steel flame]

I wish force sword got ignore hit mass. Would make special super fast

[raw token]

not exactly, did you play modded difficulties? you had to juggle specials and elites alot to effectively control the caps while your team dealt with hordes and the only time you could forget about them was when your team finally killed them

[burnt python]

yes I did but i last played shortly after sister's release when she was hilariously broken and that kind of micro was unnecessary

did they ever tune down the javelin

that shit was so op

[raw token]

yeah i used the moonfire during that phase and it was a blast, but after the nerfs staff was too good

[steel flame]

They are not mechanically the same. End of argument.

Anyway

[raw token]

i know, they serve the same purpose in gameplay is all im tyrying to say

[steel flame]

You know what else serves the same purpose? 3 flavors over every lasgun

[raw token]

imagine playing a class that has to use lasguns

yawn

[burnt python]

if they ever release a higher difficulty cc may become more relevant but in the games current state its mostly unnecessary

[orchid nacelle]

when sienna 4th career

[near wyvern]

Not really.

Mk IV has higher movement speed modifier, faster weapon switch, faster fire rate, less damaging bullets but consumes only 2 ammo per shot

Mk 1a has constant damage vs unarmoured and infested regardless of range

Mk XII has inverted damage scaling, it deals more damage if the enemy is further away

[glacial abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/620296455424442395/869343156611711046/caption.gif

perils of the warp

[orchid nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-mcride-gif-20992854

[echo parrot]

Meme aside, thats actually some damn good cgi

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26307682

the voices

[celest oar]

did they fix the FS lawnmower and VS machine gun? havent logged on yet

[orchid nacelle]

fs fixed

quell tech not fixed

[celest oar]

sad... gone are the days we can lawnmower with FS then

[runic gate]

you mean exploit

[magic hull]

thank god its removed

[celest oar]

wait its not removed

i just logged on lolz

[magic hull]

🗿

[orchid nacelle]

oh shit

someone told me it was fixed

[burnt python]

@near wyvern void pens all specials in grinder, dunno what the deal is w/ burster maybe i'm wrong about it detting on them

[celest oar]

LOL

[orchid nacelle]

i've been perpetuating misinformation

quickly i need to delete all my accoutns

[celest oar]

vs machinegun hasnt been fixed either...

LOL

[wise quail]

Do the primary and secondary attacks of void staff count as warp attacks and towards Warp Absorption?

[burnt python]

yes & yes

[wise quail]

Sweet

[celest oar]

did they make the shop a non-rotating b.s?

[teal cargo]

nope still rng

unless you mean cpsmetic

[shut thorn]

proof?

[orchid nacelle]

scrooll up

[celest oar]

yea cosmectic

[orchid nacelle]

i was mistaken

[celest oar]

its not fixed, just checked

[shut thorn]

I have no idea who "scrooll up" is

[orchid nacelle]

i will bite you

[celest oar]

i disappeared for a week or two and its still not fixed 🤣

[shut thorn]

Did you know

FS can get bloodthirsty blessing

And it works with qqm1

[celest oar]

whats that

[shut thorn]

100% crit for 5 seconds on special attack kill

Meaning you can special kill a pox walker

Then do 500 dmg each swing

for 5s

[celest oar]

LOL

[shut thorn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316039237898338314/1026970560053379202/caption-1.gif

[celest oar]

that sounds... totally not broken

[shut thorn]

tbf its still a fs

:/

Hitmass is still a thing

[celest oar]

lawnmower uses the best part of FS attack animation for hordes

the most horizontal part anyways

[shut thorn]

yeah but a PS will still be better, w/o any blessings

[echo parrot]

Posting this a final time with intention for pin.

For the Cliffhanger penance with pubs, the best place to do it is on the Hab Dreyko investigation mission.

During the final run towards the extraction point you go through what is essentially an "escape sequence" with hordes constantly spawning. Towards the end you will end up going up a tube-like ramp towards the final area where the Valkyrie is. This area has multiple places where there is no railing and is narrow. Once your teammates pass you you can easily pause here for a moment, push-wrangle some horde until you have enough, and then use your ability to push them off the side. This is the way I managed to get mine and it only took one attempt.

Pic of the tube-ramp so people know exactly what I am referring to.

<@&735928989146939404> please pin

[shut thorn]

Why, chasm logistratum is faster

[steel flame]

Did anyone else have considerably more latency after the last hotfix? I noticed yesterday that the game was skipping when never had before

[celest oar]

you cant do it with pubs

[shut thorn]

A horde literally spawns in the first minute of chasm logistratum

[shut thorn]

I did it w pub tho

when it was still 20/20

[celest oar]

depends on how stupid your pub is 🤣

[steel flame]

Had 3 pskyers do it at the same time yesterday. Its the easiest way

[echo parrot]

Then you were lucky because the horde is not always going to follow you across the bridge when there are 3 other randos all over murdering everything.

[shut thorn]

the 3 psykers in question

[shut thorn]

you can aggro the horde w/ void

[steel flame]

Dam your a fast one

[near bluff]

gonna be real with you chief, if i had to pin every location you can easily get this there'd be no pin space left

[echo parrot]

Or, hear me out, I can press push a few times Hab Dreyko and then just shout them off the side. No wrangling.

[near bluff]

only needs 7 peeps so you can do it from practically any ledge now

[shut thorn]

I cannot hear you, we are not in voice chat

[echo parrot]

Fair enough. Was just seeing it asked a lot and I keep saying the same thing.

[steel flame]

Mr bfg is saucy today

[celest oar]

wow... that nerf from 20 to 7

[echo parrot]

Wow rude

:V

[near bluff]

its a Tier 1 so makes sense it should be simple af

20 was wild prior

[bleak sonnet]

i likes the penances being hard af

[celest oar]

they didnt change the malleus b.s though

[shut thorn]

they shudve nerfed pick n mix and going out w a bang instead

[bleak sonnet]

liked**

[valid lake]

so the voices and buzzing in head aint you guys hmm wonder what they are then

[echo parrot]

They did, from 100% damage to 90%

[celest oar]

should have been like... 60% for doable on pub

[bleak sonnet]

i did my mal on a pub

[shut thorn]

bidome chip

[bleak sonnet]

pre nerf

[near bluff]

not yet, they're still adjusting tho. If its still an issue pop it on the forums in #feedback-and-reports and they'll prob adjust it down the line

[celest oar]

did they fix the 2secs soft lock on 100%?

[jovial frigate]

ye

[shut thorn]

malleus is fine, pick n mix/going out w a bang are not

[near bluff]

which ones malleus?

[bleak sonnet]

pick n mix took me the longest but i ended up getting it pre nerf in a pub as well randomly

[shut thorn]

solo monstrosity (ogryn afks a daemonhost)

[bleak sonnet]

it was and still is doable in pub

[near bluff]

ah right

[jovial frigate]

pick n mix is dumb because brainburst is dumb

but i digress

[celest oar]

might just come back then

[shut thorn]

going out w a bang is when you hop on veteran instead and use the perils explosion from plasma gun with camo

[echo parrot]

I only got pick n mix by accident

[celest oar]

but too busy on inquisitor matyr with the season 🤣

[bleak sonnet]

bang is the only one i feel is dumb

cus encourages grief

[echo parrot]

Wasnt even on my mind, was just killing things and then "oh.. ok then"

[bleak sonnet]

same

[shut thorn]

its a lot easier to do it on vet too

which is dumb

[celest oar]

i got mine by panic blowing up when we got swarmed

[bleak sonnet]

i was lucky enough to get it in one attempt on silo beginning area

against shotgunners

[shut thorn]

also why did they steal your name

[celest oar]

was funny because it was the 2nd penance i got on pysker

[shut thorn]

why are you numbers

[bleak sonnet]

friend code

for lfg

[shut thorn]

a

[jovial frigate]

too lazy to set up a group of people to not kill elites for me

[echo parrot]

My last one was out with a bang. No coordination or premade. The stars just aligned perfectly.

[bleak sonnet]

why are camera lenses so expensive

[echo parrot]

Because it was my last one, I unlocked 2 tiers at once.

[dense cloud]

lol eperos gift an other auto gun 😦

[valid lake]

least autogun better then a headhunter

[marble iris]

curious to hear what other people think about staff's vs guns on psyker especially on damnation. ive been using the heavy lasgun and honestly prefer it over the staffs so far. does a great job of dealing with long range targets and shooting galleries

[dense cloud]

staf is team utility

'but you can do what ever you want as long as team agrees so

[marble iris]

im not opposed to using a staff for utility i just wonder which one would be best in that situation

[stuck basalt]

if you want use gun why play psyker

[celest oar]

i am a magic slinging madman and you cant tell me otherwise

[celest oar]

and yes, this

[grave bobcat]

I prefer staffs purely for the 10% toughnes on warp kill

But otherwise can just kinda run anything you want l

lol

[marble iris]

i use brain burst for single target damage and never overload as a result. instead of relying on the same resource pool for two different weapons

[dense cloud]

this staf any good ? 😄

[grave bobcat]

As long as your not afgk spamming BB

[marble iris]

i use BB for elites and bosses

las gun for long range shooters

[shut thorn]

infinite toughness, F to shout at a horde and tell it to self combust, cool infinite block

[dense cloud]

i only use bb when i have the talent that speeds it up

[shut thorn]

yes, shame its not warp nexus but rest is gr8

[wet raven]

-cocks staff- like this?

[cyan notch]

pick and mix is pretty doable in quickplay in damnation or even heresy

they spawn like at least 4 shotgunners in a patrol

[ebon jolt]

I feel like run and gun is a trap.

[dense cloud]

run an gun is opp

you can sprint with left clicking

and zoom true the masses and get away fast

[cyan notch]

its not really a trap its just mid

[dense cloud]

it alwos you to slide and shoot left click 😄

[ebon jolt]

But you take more toughness damage while sprinting. So it incentivizes you to sprint while there are enemies around.

[dense cloud]

and keep[ speed up

[gray ore]

I have been blessed by the warp, siblings!

[ebon jolt]

Ah that’s cool. Didn’t know you could slide and use as well.

[jovial frigate]

reroll crit to 25% mutant and i think you can 1 shot ragers on damnation

with no warp charges

[dense cloud]

i have 5 😄 of this

[gray ore]

Already can, just with a heavy warp-charged attack

[cyan notch]

finesse could be better

warp res in the gutters

[viscid cloak]

I have been getting extremely nice modifiers on ogryn weapons as of lately, but NOTHING FOR MY PSYKER

game dosen't want me to play psyker it seems

[jovial frigate]

really? maybe because my finesse + first target mod have always been so low idk what capped force sword dam looks like

[grave bobcat]

if you want to know badly remind me later lo

[jovial frigate]

i'm always ~40 dam short with this guy

[ebon jolt]

I had to go 25% mutant to OHKO dreg ragers on damnation with a 80/80 damage and finesse blade. Can light special kill scab ragers without it.

[jovial frigate]

heres my other one - still trying to reroll for maniac

[gray ore]

Damage and First Target are an 80% must for me, ideally Finesse as well. The other two stats can be 0 for all I care

[jovial frigate]

yeah thats pretty much my problem rn, i want a reliable ohko for dreg ragers in damn

[teal cargo]

basically impossible to get rn

[summer prairie]

what do you need 80% for except number go up

[teal cargo]

if you also want Deflector

[jovial frigate]

its fine in general because theres tons of chip damage to be had in this game but my tism makes me want it to be doable by itself

[summer prairie]

it's probably not even actually 80% since it's rounded

[gray ore]

smacks fists down on table D A M A G E

[ebon jolt]

My blade can even OHKO a mutant with a crit on damnation. 🤘

[teal cargo]

💀

[bleak sonnet]

my axe damage big

fart sword too weak

[jovial frigate]

yeah my purple can ohko with crit. I know its not gonna happen but im begging for my purp to roll bloodthirsty

[teal cargo]

Almost as good as Power Sword now?

[cyan notch]

lol

[ebon jolt]

My problem is the animation takes so long and ragers usually come in packs that you kill one but the others beat up on you. I find Purg staff left click spam is what I usually go with. Surge is probably good too.

[bleak sonnet]

ijust shoot ragers

[jovial frigate]

i just push them on their ass and t hen charge it

[cyan notch]

push some down on the floor then hit em

[jovial frigate]

ye

[echo parrot]

People measuring FS sizes again?

[bleak sonnet]

if you're in melee with ragers youve already played suboptimally

[teal cargo]

Axe kills em pretty safely

[echo parrot]

Do I need to bring mine out?

[teal cargo]

Nah you can spam push attacks and kill em pretty safely

[jovial frigate]

lemme see it, i have been searching for a fs that can one shot t5 dreg ragers

[teal cargo]

sometimes do that if somebodys being overwhelmed by a buncha ragers

[bleak sonnet]

me shoot

no reason to melee a rager

[burnt python]

i mean, there's no reason not to melee them if you use axe lol

its safe

[teal cargo]

Yea

[ebon jolt]

I find there is a window when blocking while spamming push attacks that still use stamina for blocking. Can get staggered if you try to spam ragers.

[burnt python]

you just have to start ur own spam between their animations

[teal cargo]

yea sometimes you do get block broken if spamming

[burnt python]

block first 2 hits then start spamming

[teal cargo]

yep

you need to have some stamina to block

but it doesnt use stamina to do so

pretty annoying but thas the Psyker life

[bleak sonnet]

or just shoot them and dont have to worry :P

[rotund crystal]

I know siblings it's kind of shameful but I cannot for the life of me get the Malleus Monstronum penance, is there any ogryn with a shield ready to tank a deamon host available ?

[teal cargo]

sometimes you cant like surge and not chaining properly

and its faster to melee em

[remote tusk]

Any thoughts on how important the blast radius stat in on the strike staff? I've tried comparing but don't see much difference, but I am not the most reliable on such matters

[bleak sonnet]

#vox-lfg-nasa

[burnt python]

boring

[teal cargo]

But yea gunning them down do work

[rotund crystal]

wrong channel lmao my bad

[bleak sonnet]

me kill 👍

[burnt python]

which staff? radius is not important for void, matters more on trauma

[teal cargo]

Vet with Bolter and ability can mow down hordes of em 👀

[bleak sonnet]

mk12 2 shots them with 25% bonus

:P

[burnt python]

ive played like 20k hrs of shooters in my life, if I can use a non-gun wep ima take it lol

[night marten]

first blessing rolled

[teal cargo]

I wish psykers got braced autoguns

they fun to use

[wise quail]

Thoughts on my force sword, worth keeping or looking for a newer one?

[teal cargo]

Really good, has deflector

[bleak sonnet]

low af damage

[teal cargo]

Thas super hard already

[jovial frigate]

i wish monstros/bosses were spawnable in the meatgrinder

[ebon jolt]

Shred is pretty good.

[teal cargo]

Yea shreds good

[night marten]

and bursters

[viscid cloak]

bursters not dying to 1 brain burst without stacks on heresy was something i wish i could have knew sooner

[night marten]

not sure if even 6 stacks 1-shots them on damn

[burnt python]

it doesn't

[bleak sonnet]

it dont

[night marten]

lol, yea I just push

[bleak sonnet]

just shoot them

like every other enemy in the game :P

[boreal wave]

Yeah, psykinetics wrath doesn't push them when they're in mid air either

[lethal rain]

I ult for bursters and push because that shit is too dangerous

[night marten]

I've done it, have a video around here somewhere..

[cyan notch]

the definitely do

i used to do use F to push them before i learned to manually push

[burnt python]

burster push w/ ult depends on how many wa rp charges you have

[boreal wave]

It's literally never worked for me. Once they get airborne, they can be physically pushed and they can be lightninged back. But they just fly straight through my wrath.

[lethal rain]

The ult works but it’s inconsistent or I’m just bad

[muted wyvern]

Is this legit??

[night marten]

yea this might be the case *inconsistency, not you being bad

[burnt python]

scales w/ warp charges

[boreal wave]

That's dumb

[valid lake]

yep we weere joking about this last night the stats on surge are pointless

[muted wyvern]

Holy fucking shit Fatshark… “Happy Holidays, no fixes until the new year. Fuck you, I guess.”

[night marten]

F worked against burster with 4 charges here #psyker-class message

no idea what the minimum is

[boreal wave]

They just cannot give the Psyker a break

[valid lake]

psyker is held together with ducttape and hopium

[bleak sonnet]

ive always felt that its fine :P

[cyan notch]

yea i agree with numbers it always worked for me

[muted wyvern]

Please, Duct Tape is actually a decent adhesive. We don’t even get that.

[burnt python]

psyker is great unless you go in expecting to use your staff &bb to deal with the entire game, get dat melee out

[valid lake]

lmafo yeah just copeium and hopium them i wou;dnt want to insult the omnissahs holy ducttape

[long wharf]

has someone confirmed whether or not the surge staff no longer crits?

[potent echo]

Psyker melee

[boreal wave]

Everyone knows the game requires a mix of melee and ranged combat. Regardless of if you can make the class work, it's clear that the feats are a mess and core mechanics of the class are bad.

[ebon jolt]

I consider changing classes now and again but the person I play with most often plays Zealot, I don’t like Ogryn much and I feel dirty playing vet. Also the vet channel is… not as good as this channel.

[burnt python]

it crits it just has poor crit dmg bonus

[long wharf]

I read on reddit just now someone saying the surge staff doesn't crit any more (bug in most recent patch)

[bleak sonnet]

this chat is just people complaining

which is funny to watch

[valid lake]

ithink last night were we where talking about how it has never crit

[long wharf]

surge definitely crits

[potent echo]

It's been that way since the preorder beta honestly

[bleak sonnet]

it has

since the chat's inception

[boreal wave]

Circle jerk aside, I see just as many people trying to convince everyone that Psyker is the best class in the game.

[potent echo]

I remember when people wanted aoe suppression and faster charge and instakill elites/specials on brainburst

[bleak sonnet]

psyker is the best class in the game

[boreal wave]

Sure it is.

[remote tusk]

Shouldt be a surprise that people complain about this unfinished game. Mixed reviews and a lot of love/hate

[potent echo]

Why not?

[steady sand]

only psyker communicate with Emperor!

[long wharf]

people wouldn't complain so much if they weren't enjoying the game otherwise

we complain because we see the potential

[potent echo]

We complain because we ran out of content

[bleak sonnet]

this is the truth

[night marten]

I have never spent so many hours on an unfinished early access game

[devout axle]

I complain because of the withheld/unfinished content.

[valid lake]

we had content to run out of ?

[night marten]

diamond in the rough

[potent echo]

Ppl won't be on discord/reddit if there's like 3 subclasses and more than 4 weapons on release

[bleak sonnet]

itll be good in 2 years same as vt2

ill reinstall then

[steady sand]

still waiting for 2h force sword!

[devout axle]

Still waiting for crafting to be fully implemented!

[potent echo]

Agesrapidly.gif

[devout belfry]

Wait, has anyone tested this surge staff crit jank?

[steady sand]

but, crafting do not fit to this universe 😂

[raw breach]

All I want is for them to put the damn crafting system in the game. tbh idk why the game even launched without it being ready.

[bleak sonnet]

it really doesnt ngl

[potent echo]

I'll start complaining once the holiday season is over

[devout axle]

Neither does a Psyker referring to the Emperor as the "Carrion Lord" being allowed to live, even as a conscripted convinct.

[dense cloud]

wiat and see player base drop after all crafting is in game and every one got bis items Xd

[bleak sonnet]

ill never complain because i can simply stop playing until theres more to do

[steady sand]

true weapon customization, what i like to see, like put scope on lasgun, or other attachments

[night marten]

getting lucky today

[bleak sonnet]

i think a big problem with people is they try to make the game their entire life xd

[potent echo]

I think it's been decided that that will never happen

Mk are the way to go

[valid lake]

in hedges words it aint cod

[potent echo]

And specific sights for specific weapons

[remote tusk]

It's very human to get tunnel vision when you get into something or someone. I do it all the time

[dense cloud]

pew

i got 6 defelcotrs now 😄

[steady sand]

so, better to not take some good aspect of other games, to not be called this game? O.o

[bleak sonnet]

simply dont be human

[potent echo]

(because it's very hard to sell skins of weapons that can be customized)

[remote tusk]

Replacing arms with toasters as we speak

[potent echo]

Imagine you need a skin for with and without scope ugh the chore

[bleak sonnet]

omnisiah be praised

[uncut hamlet]

omnissiah you heretic

[bleak sonnet]

no american

sorry

[uncut hamlet]

whats american

is that a new type of heresy

[potent echo]

Cadian

[valid lake]

Heretek you Heretek

[bleak sonnet]

no english

only china

sorry

[uncut hamlet]

Ni hao

shin jai wo yo

bing chilling

[potent echo]

How are the Chinese ppl taking it actually

They seem to really love this game

[uncut hamlet]

im chinese and I love this game

[bleak sonnet]

china love dark tide

[potent echo]

Based on number of players

[bleak sonnet]

#1 state supported game

[potent echo]

Nice

[uncut hamlet]

tencent things

[mental rock]

makes sense

[uncut hamlet]

it really is fun asf though

[mental rock]

imperium is pretty similar to china

kek

[uncut hamlet]

TRUE

[echo parrot]

Time to prepare a specific copypasta

[potent echo]

Imagine posting that unironically in 2022

[echo parrot]

Imagine me caring

[uncut hamlet]

I wanna play Darktide

but

[potent echo]

What we should be doing is feeding images of tank into their ai art generator

[uncut hamlet]

I also wanna play project highrise

at the same time

[dense cloud]

run an gun with coambat kinde with 3 lacerate on it 😄

purgatus staf 😄

[echo parrot]

What is project highrise again?

[uncut hamlet]

Skyscraper building game

[echo parrot]

Ah

[uncut hamlet]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/423580/Project_Highrise/

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[supple skiff]

why are there so many male zelots going for the sisters of battle look lmao

[uncut hamlet]

Brothers of warfare

[echo parrot]

I think I'll fire up new Vegas on the deck again when I get home

I haven't been using it enough

[remote tusk]

A man with that haircut and a flamethrower is quite terrifying in a way a buzzcut will never be

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/1_0aWm6Qjrpt

[night marten]

I think warp charges fall off too fast

[uncut hamlet]

they definitely do

dont think anyone has disputed that warp charges suck

[supple skiff]

should decay instead of all go at once

[uncut hamlet]

to get and keep and have

[supple skiff]

meanwhile a vet with counter fire can keep his ult up with zero down time

with a what, %50 dmg increase to our 12

[uncut hamlet]

thats 60% bonus damage with an extra 25% to weakspot hits

we get a

12%

maybe

[supple skiff]

[night marten]

can weapons only roll 3star perks?

[uncut hamlet]

with a 18% maybe if we take the perk and are good at keeping stuff up

[night marten]

I've rerolled a good number of times and see only 3s

[uncut hamlet]

its just hrd to get 4

[night marten]

ah ok

[devout belfry]

Welcome to the Sororitas.

[sacred lodge]

What does the lock mean anyway?

[uncut hamlet]

cant change it

when you refine, you choose 1 of the 2 perk slots to change

you can never change the other one after you choose

[supple skiff]

I still think they should change WC to give %8 or so damage increase but only to BB damage

[sacred lodge]

Ooooooohhhhh….

[maiden wharf]

hopefully devs will buff psycher, I love glass cannons, but this thing is a glass water pistol imo

[uncut hamlet]

This might be heresy but I've been having fun with trauma staff on heresy damnation

It isnt as bad as I expected

[supple skiff]

that or buff to that level for warp damage, then give a feat that increases it further but makes it only apply to BB

[vagrant cedar]

Dude you can perma block all the melee mobs

psyker is strong af

[maiden wharf]

which difficulty are you playing?

[vagrant cedar]

4

[uncut hamlet]

Psyker is perfectly viable and strong in its own niche, but it is not strong af

[vagrant cedar]

only issue you'd have is the heavy ones

[supple skiff]

that block is like the only thing we have and its a gimmick at worst crutch at best

comparatively speaking

[night marten]

well I can 1-shot maniac ragers, but I need 1 warp charge to do it

[vagrant cedar]

if you know how to play it, it is

[uncut hamlet]

Vets can get 60% overall damage buff with an additional 25% weakspot hit while taking 75% less damage from ranged with 200 toughness. Forever. Easily. We get 18% damage buff if we stress over it

Not to say that Vet needs a nerf. I think the class is well designed

[maiden wharf]

every class can handle easy ones, but its psychers role to kill the heavy ones, sharpshooter with his power sword can obliterate hordes while killing heavy with bolter

[uncut hamlet]

Rather, every other class needs to be buffed or have changes so things synergize

[supple skiff]

I have a vet, the speed I can delete gun mobs is disgusting

[remote tusk]

Psyker is fun but the kit seems poorly designed. Our strongest tricks seem like bugs and oversights rather than intentional class features

[supple skiff]

with counterfire

[vagrant cedar]

hmmm there's some truth to that yes

[supple skiff]

there is no role the psyker can do as well as that

[uncut hamlet]

I've played every staff on every map on damnation, I do know how to play psyker

I also know how to play vet, and I can say vet is stronger by far except for its cc capablities

[mystic dome]

Psyker is the worst class of the 4 we have not from a power perspective, but from the fact nothing we do feels satisfying

[uncut hamlet]

psyker has crazy cc

[uncut hamlet]

Trauma feels good ngl, but yea I agree

[supple skiff]

I use to think we ccould a least take out backline threats the best like gunners and snipers, nah. Ulted vet is way better

[mystic dome]

Trauma also has its awful aiming

[uncut hamlet]

the class utility feels really annoying to use, the passive is best ignored, the class weapons are usually worse than guns for some reason

[vagrant cedar]

i mean, you can lock on head and cover, and enemy dies

that's kinda satisfying

[supple skiff]

or vet can just one shot em

[devout axle]

Except when enemy doesn't die

[mystic dome]

or i can play vet and dome him with the bolter

[uncut hamlet]

Vet can press F, lock on heads, and kill every shooter in the room without losing toughness

[vagrant cedar]

oh

[mystic dome]

Like even the zealot, which gets a lot of shit for not really gelling with the toughness mechanic, feels more put together than psyker does to me

[uncut hamlet]

psyker rn doesnt have the feel of an elite killing mage that it was likely built towards

[mystic dome]

Least i can bonk someone with a thunderhammer

[uncut hamlet]

its more a cc/support mage

[maiden wharf]

can you tell me your build, i'd like to enjoy psycher but for now he feels very weak even on heresy

[uncut hamlet]

with resource problems

[night marten]

if Refine costs are eventually free anyway, why can't I can just choose to pay a flat, higher fee in craftings mats to select whatever perk I want

[uncut hamlet]

I don't have any problem with a cc mage, but the feats just dont match up and the fact that communion isnt base kit makes everything feel worse

[mystic dome]

Because gambling

gotta get that engagement

[vagrant cedar]

casino dope hits different

[uncut hamlet]

I think its a bug ngl, they mentioned in previous patch notes that it was supposed to get more expensive, not less

[night marten]

oh fuck

[uncut hamlet]

Build for which staff?

[night marten]

but wasn't that for blessings? not sure

[maiden wharf]

i have 489 voistrike its my strongest one

[long wharf]

so, I'm testing in the meat grinder on damnation the surge staff doing damage to enemies

[uncut hamlet]

Im pretty sure it was for refining, but I could be wrong

[night marten]

godamn, not sure if I would have the stomach for increasing refine costs

[burnt python]

you are correct they just changed their minds on it

[night marten]

the rng is just too heavy

[burnt python]

its not a bug

[warped perch]

I've said this before but does anyone else think spawns of nurgle are kinda cute

[long wharf]

and the pop that surge does when you have enough surge on an enemy has a huge variance in damage

[bright raft]

What is weak spot for the trauma?

[long wharf]

yes Inquisitor, this heretic right here

[long wharf]

trauma doesn't hit weakspots

[warped perch]

[bright raft]

thought so, cool 🥲

[vagrant cedar]

idk how psyker is supposed to be an elite killer tbh, all his set is for melee wave clear

[vagrant cedar]

apart from bb

[uncut hamlet]

I've played void the least but last time I ran this and it went fine

Void doesnt have any specific synergies like AB with purge or high peril with trauma

[long wharf]

you're missing out on not using peril for blocking

[uncut hamlet]

so I just went whatever looked good

[mystic dome]

At least the other 3 classes are semi coherent in their design

[vagrant cedar]

they could have text descriptions to the right side what it gives

[uncut hamlet]

I use shield because i dont have a deflector LOL

[long wharf]

and void most easily kills quickly, so you want the second feat of the first choice

[burnt python]

there is no reason to ever run a lvl 20 talent thats not peril block unfortunately

[teal cargo]

KD is good without FS too

[mystic dome]

i think fatshark tried to combine multiple class ideas into one when they realised they'd be launching only with the base 4

[uncut hamlet]

look at his aura, its +10% elite damage. his BB is set for high single target too

[teal cargo]

You still get great nlocks vs hordes

[long wharf]

for void, I run 221113

[burnt python]

3-2-1-1-1-3 for void imo

[teal cargo]

Quietude void?

[uncut hamlet]

ngl shield has saved my ass before, and with the infinite push of fs i dont end up needing to block too much

[teal cargo]

It uses low peril and all

[uncut hamlet]

I did play around with rapier with peril

[burnt python]

quietitude with everything

[uncut hamlet]

and it was amazing blocking a daemonhost

[teal cargo]

Why everything 😠

[warped perch]

I heard that you shouldn't use peril block

[uncut hamlet]

but in hordes i generally just spam push

[long wharf]

well, void should also be constantly quelling, so that's a good option as well

[burnt python]

because it's on-demand

[uncut hamlet]

Nah peril block is definitely bis

[burnt python]

and the quell on hs triggers it

[uncut hamlet]

I just like shield

[burnt python]

and it benefits melee

[teal cargo]

I would always use Peril Block

[burnt python]

while others dont

[long wharf]

peril block is the absolute best option for that level

[vagrant cedar]

yeah but his BB can also be suportive if you have the +15% dmg from all other sources

[night marten]

quell on weakspot hit being BiS for void makes quietitude pretty much always the best choice for it imo

[warped perch]

Idk who told me that

[teal cargo]

Pretty much the best feat psyker has is Peril Block

[vagrant cedar]

so you could have +25% elite dmg for the whole team

[burnt python]

void also triggers battle meditation a ton