psyker-class

[vestal finch]

Man all these people are just so incredibly skill issued

[delicate stratus]

The utility is what makes it amazing, not the raw damage output.

[void anvil]

good for grenadiers too

[boreal sun]

prepping is useless when they don't pop in one hit

[cyan notch]

why it still 1 shots
snipers
shotgunners
gunners
bombers
trappers

[vestal finch]

they can't handle BB

[toxic lintel]

Ye

[vestal finch]

Chunking half of a mutant's hp is useless?

[toxic lintel]

Psyker's big benefit is the whole not needing ammo thing

[wise pecan]

I do wish it would one shot hounds, personally, but surge is an effective enough substitute

[dense cloud]

when i use bb i get my on brian burst cos the keep killing my targets 😦

[pure lion]

Even the best veteran can’t kill a gunner, bomber, or trapper who runs behind cover without chasing, but BB can kill anything if you get a lock.

[delicate stratus]

It doesn't oneshot dogs at T4+ but it still always hits them when they fly past at the speed of light. Also makes ogryns easy to deal with as you can stun them easily for free. You can pop ragers that sprint behind walls. You can deal with the bomber that's chucking grenades two countys over. Damage isn't everything.

[uncut hamlet]

Snipers, bombers, and trappers are valid. Gunners and shotgunners usually spawn in such high amounts that bb'ing one or two doesn't matter. Best let the vet take care of them

[boreal sun]

if you have nothing else to brain burst or actively do, then sure. otherwise time would be better spent killing other things.

[toxic lintel]

I find just meleeing the dogs or pushing them works better than BBing them

[delicate stratus]

I can literally go on and on about it but people only every cry about the fact it doesn't oneshot like 'lol bruh neither does most anything else T4+'\

[wise pecan]

I do find bb to be useful as a precision tool as well, when there’s a decent amount of ranged chaff sitting near a daemonhost

[cyan notch]

why does it have to 1 shot everything

[pure lion]

The immediate burst damage cuts it down enough though that a couple snapshots from your team mates are enough to kill it before it hits anyone

[vestal finch]

Killing elite gunners and shotgunners is always worth it

[cyan notch]

it has infinite ammo infinite range

[uncut hamlet]

I'd say BB is useful, but not good. Three seconds of charge for ~1k damage and a bit of cc isn't amazing. It has its place for sure, buts it's overshadowed by other classes is the thing

[grave bobcat]

People use BB without kinetic barrage? 😄

[delicate stratus]

If you say so, man. I think BB is awesome as is.

[toxic lintel]

It doesn't, but the scaling with difficulty throws people off when going T3-T4

[boreal sun]

it should potentially one shot muties and dogs.

[cyan notch]

what

[pure lion]

A good buff would be making it stagger hounds

[grave bobcat]

It does

[delicate stratus]

...It does stagger hounds?

[uncut hamlet]

If there's nothing else pressing for you to do, definitely. If there are elites or a horde pressuring your team, it's more useful to staff them to keep them off the vet who can deal with them faster and more efficiently.

[delicate stratus]

tf you on about

[grave bobcat]

It initially staggers them at ike 80% charge then another stagger once it fires 🙂

[delicate stratus]

Hounds recover super fast, but BB does stagger/knock them down

[uncut hamlet]

300 dps with a slowdown and high peril gain is awesome? I mean, I suppose so?

[toxic lintel]

Yeah stopping/slowing them down just helps to reduce their threat

[uncut hamlet]

Meleeing also staggers them

[violet yoke]

Psykers that can't play higher that t3 - brain burst needs a buff

Psykers that can play t4 - t5 brain burst is amazing

[delicate stratus]

45 peril to delete something annoying or stun an important target so my vet can shoot without being molested? yes.

[random wolf]

Not needing to LoS after getting your target is great.

[toxic lintel]

True, but can't do that at range sadly

[cyan notch]

brain buff

[wise pecan]

I haven’t noticed the pre-cast stagger doing much, but the actual hit does def stagger. That said, I just wait for them to get close and either stun with surge or stab with melee. Bb is too ineffectual at dealing with them in heresy to justify its price imo

[violet yoke]

Lol phone suto correct

[dense cloud]

lol im psycher nad i do damnation with my friends ez pz

[vestal finch]

Why should I join my 2/3 teammates in hordeclearing and hope one of them breaks off and starts killing ranged when I could do it myself?

[delicate stratus]

As a reaction, yes. As a proactive decision, it's really good.

Like, BB isn't an 'oh shit this must die' it's an 'oh let me set someone up for easy removal'

[uncut hamlet]

You can reasonably deal with two elites that vets might have a hard time with, being the bomber and trapper since they run. The comparatively low reward for the cost is what makes bb not great, despite its obvious utility.

[thorny idol]

So I run a melee build that focuses on building high peril for bonus damage with force sword, I just got a new force sword with good base stats and upgraded it to rare, not sure how to feel about its blessing

[cyan notch]

options are options and the cost isnt bad at all

[delicate stratus]

And I'm saying BB is a versatile tool you can use to help your team to do various things, it's not JUST a 'kill this bomber/sniper' button.

[cyan notch]

sure you might not use it all the time but you can

[vestal finch]

I have seriously yet to meet these godtier vets who instantly wipe all the shooters in a room and leave us with only melee enemies to kill

[uncut hamlet]

As I said, if there's nothing pressuring you. It takes you 3 seconds to kill a gunner, while a vet takes 3 seconds to kill every gunner on the screen

[vestal finch]

_ _

[delicate stratus]

Where are these Vets I want easier damnation runs

lol kidding

[thorny idol]

BB is a "build a warp charge" button if you ask me

[frigid marten]

and time matter a lot.

[cyan notch]

ah yes the fabled aimbot vets who delete everything on screen with perfect accuracy

[vestal finch]

When I say gunner I mean the elite machinegunner, not the chaff

[uncut hamlet]

I agree it's versatile, but with its very long charge time and peril cost compared to it's damage not mattering too much at higher difficulties, it's situational at best

[grave bobcat]

I pretty much treat it like this

[vestal finch]

I'm not BBing trash mobs

[wise pecan]

It isn’t often in a heresy+ mission, in my experience, that not killling and not locking down one special is a better decision than locking down and potentially killing 8 enemies at once. All that time I spend charging up my brain burst is time I could be spending making the engagement my team is in significantly easier

[bronze pulsar]

i use BB a lot still on 4s and 5s. i wouldnt say psyker is good but its totally usable especially in fights where your team just has to deal with a bunch of camped up shooters. its safe and easy to hit

[uncut hamlet]

Yea, I've seen a lot of them with counterfire

[grave bobcat]

Me on vet fr fr

[elfin crystal]

Well it might change a bit plasma is meta kinda now and it requires more brain functions that boltgun and is more axed towards elites

[cyan notch]

its precisely situational because its in your utility slot you dont spam your nades everywhere in the same slot do you

[delicate stratus]

It matters so much in Damnation to make good BB calls. If you have to deal with multiple reapers, it helps your Vet immensely to stunlock one or two of them for him.

[uncut hamlet]

An exaggeration for sure, but you get my point

[uncut hamlet]

Oh yea, bb is great for reapers I agree. The cc is amazing to reduce the amount of suppressing fire

[languid osprey]

hey guys can u remember the important stats on surge?

[grave bobcat]

Crit bonus, damage, charge rate

[bronze pulsar]

dmg and crit and charge rate

[uncut hamlet]

As I said, I'm not disagreeing that bb is useful. It's just not as powerful compared to other utility, and I feel it could use a buff

[grave bobcat]

See 🥲

[languid osprey]

got it thx boys

[uncut hamlet]

They over nerfed it from cbt

[elfin crystal]

I mean, technically. Reapers shouldn't be an issue for vets

[vestal finch]

How was it in CBT?

[boreal sun]

reapers shouldn't be an issue for anyone but zealot.

[grave bobcat]

In that order btw

[delicate stratus]

I'm just saying. BB is great. They really should not buff/change it. Maybe change warpcharges so they don't all fall off at once or make Pyschic Communion baseline to actually maintain charges for other stuff (like the OP power of Ascendant Blaze)

[boreal sun]

even then, they get a bolter.

[cyan notch]

idk about not as powerful thats pretty subjective considering other utility is pretty different

[vestal finch]

I do think BB could use a buff.

[uncut hamlet]

I get that bb is technically infinite so it shouldn't have the same strength of a nade, but nades are straight up useful in almost any situation, and vets get almost unlimited amounts of them

[grave bobcat]

And reapers are meh once you get gunner resist

[vestal finch]

I hear it used to stagger as soon as the cast started

[frigid marten]

BB have to compete with other things that use peril.

[bronze pulsar]

the main thing i hate about pskyer is out of all my chars my pskyer has the worst luck in the shop even though it was my first 30, and i think its becasue its so gear specific

[uncut hamlet]

Yea, this is the main issue

[delicate stratus]

idk man if they buff BB then psyker is going to be overtuned as piss.

[cyan notch]

different uses for different scenarios

[wise pecan]

I think it could use a little faster charge time or some form of scaling damage. Currently, I very rarely use it, because surge stuns specials and hits armor

[grave bobcat]

And if you're not using BB with Kinetic Barrage (Sorry Purge Users) then you fuckin up anyway

[uncut hamlet]

The reaper thing is less for you and more for your vets so they aren't constantly suppressed

[violet yoke]

I agree man and vet nades should blow up the whole screen on higher difcutly and ogyn grenades should 1 shot bosses on higher difficulty and zelto nades should set the whole level on fire when they throw them...

[patent hatch]

it doesnt need a buff it needs a rework

[vestal finch]

I use Purge with Kinetic Barrage.

[grave bobcat]

Oh I just go up and hit it with them lmao

[delicate stratus]

Warp charge needs some reworks, not BB imo

[elfin crystal]

Psyker is already kinda overturned a lil. All you see in damnation are psykers and vets most of the time with a sprinkle of zealots and the rare ogryn

[uncut hamlet]

Psyker is currently fightest for the weakest class next to ogryn despite their very useful utility. I doubt a small bb buff would make it overtuned

[grave bobcat]

I prob do more damage than the Zealot anyways

[patent hatch]

whats wrong with warp charges, BB is just a bit ass

[cyan notch]

i dont think theyre the weakest class lmao

[bronze pulsar]

yeah the work required to maintain warp charge is a little too much for what it does. if it had like a 35 second duration instead of 25 i'd be really happy.

[uncut hamlet]

Warp charged definitely need reworks. It doesn't make sense for the best way to deal with a core part of your kit is to ignore jt

[delicate stratus]

Warp charge does very little, yet interacts with lots of skills in fun ways

[toxic lintel]

Psyker just need to be play right

[delicate stratus]

And Psyker is definitely not the weakest lmao. I'd put it tied with Zealot for shenanigans

[jaunty atlas]

huh.. maybe not.

[bronze pulsar]

zealot imo is 2nd best class

[toxic lintel]

Psyker is great for horde control, that push is great

[languid osprey]

i think we need some feats baked into the character like the walk speed while refreshing

and maybe better and different LMB on all the staffs

[jaunty atlas]

having a 2 charge power with full pen and a nade that aoe stun ...

[delicate stratus]

Yeah modifying the staves to all have unique LMB would be awesome.

[jaunty atlas]

let's not get ahead of ourselves

[cyan notch]

i dont think they all need unique left clicks

[delicate stratus]

It'd make them more interesting. surge staff puts me to sleep.

[toxic lintel]

Would be better imo, let's the staff be more unique

[wise pecan]

I’m not sure if this is a matter of psyker being overtuned, or a matter of damnation providing environments that the two chief forms of psyker excel in:

1. Lots of hordes, whose mobs don’t just die instantly (purgatus/voidstrike users)
2. Lots of specials/elites (surge users)

[languid osprey]

you are right but the basic one feels awfull

[uncut hamlet]

Surge staff could do with a unique left click yea. I think the others fit

[bronze pulsar]

it would be nice if the left click on the staves were literally ever useful

[languid osprey]

like u cant hit a thing if its moving

[cyan notch]

they are tho

[elfin crystal]

Yeah that's fair as well

[uncut hamlet]

Left click on purge has nice cc on most mobs

[delicate stratus]

Trauma is a bit weird and needs fixing

[jaunty atlas]

and trauma users ?

[toxic lintel]

Like, trauma being a push, surge little zap, void as it is, and purge as it is

[delicate stratus]

Surge LMB should be the tiny lightning bolt from vermintide 2

[wise pecan]

Lmao trauma users

[delicate stratus]

so it can retain its identity as the 'fuck armor' staff

[patent hatch]

Main problem with Traumua is how much peril it generates. When void strike deals better damage and less peril

[pure lion]

Higher skill cap =/= weakest class

[worn canopy]

True

[uncut hamlet]

Less aoe than both void and purge for higher peril cost and less aoe. Idk maybe if they made rending on it base so it takes its place as a special killer with aoe sprinkled on top

[toxic lintel]

Would say higher skill floor

[wise pecan]

I have yet to group with a trauma user in any heresy+ game. Make of that what you will

[patent hatch]

I mean

[worn canopy]

I’d say higher nerfs

[toxic lintel]

Trauma is very niche

[delicate stratus]

I've heard Trauma is literally bugged to deal almost half its stated ingame damage

[patent hatch]

I have used Traumua in dammnation

it was fun

[pure lion]

I think we are similar to zealots in that there’s a wider range between a bad player and a good player than, say, an vet

[patent hatch]

but didnt do shit

[delicate stratus]

which would explain the insane cost if it actually hit that hard

[uncut hamlet]

I have. We wiped that run

[jaunty atlas]

the problem is when at your skillcap you will always be better on another class. i only play psyker for the fantasy, but i have an absolute hate the class

[cyan notch]

why

sounds like ur skillcap for psyker is just low

[delicate stratus]

ascendant blaze is OP change my mind

[pure lion]

If people hate the psycher they should ✨Spark Joy✨ and go play something else

[languid osprey]

my main problem with surge is how team dependant u are while waiting for ur team to kill the mobs

and LMB is just to little to late

and also being blind after one game

[jaunty atlas]

because i have all other at 30 and i do the same thing for 10 times less effort

[worn canopy]

I don’t even remember which one that is

[uncut hamlet]

I like the visuals of trauma honestly, and I'd love to be able to use it without trolling my team

[uncut hamlet]

Fire ult

[worn canopy]

Oh I use that because I don’t rely on BB at all

[delicate stratus]

consume warp charges to make half the map explode in fire

[toxic lintel]

Pretty nice to give that little bit of damage

[elfin crystal]

You're not really that team dependant. Surge still kills fairly easily with the right setup

[patent hatch]

Ascendent is crazzzy

[toxic lintel]

Pairs well with purge staff

[bronze pulsar]

yeah same lol. its fine on 3 but 4 and 5 if your team sucks surge isnt going to do enough

[elfin crystal]

It's just long

[wise pecan]

Ehhh I mean, psyker can do a lot of very valuable things no other class can. Yeet a burster 30 ft back, stop a hound in its tracks, kill snipers while in cover, burn down hordes indefinitely, stun groups of enemies

[jaunty atlas]

it does work in heresy, you can nuke things, you have to be very precise with your left click and dose well your righty

[uncut hamlet]

I use ascendent because I primarily purge

[worn canopy]

I only use flame staff

[languid osprey]

it will after 5 zaps lmao

[patent hatch]

Psyker is a bit of a jack of all trades master of none

[worn canopy]

I initially ran the faster bb but

[uncut hamlet]

It probably does you're right, but it's a lot of effort for less gain than just say, using void

[delicate stratus]

speet hawt fiah

[worn canopy]

I be running T5s

Bb sucks

[uncut hamlet]

Psyker has the best utility in the game imo. Really good cc

[jaunty atlas]

yep. but it makes you cool :p sort of. well no but .. you see

[elfin crystal]

The main issue with psyker is probably just their squishiness tbh. It's hard to res people if shit goes wrong

[delicate stratus]

Well, they're meant to be squishy in exchange for having an INCOMPARABLE MIND.

[uncut hamlet]

Resing is very easy with peril block actually

[pure lion]

That’s what peril blocking with a deflector FS is for!

[toxic lintel]

I found deflector helps with that

[uncut hamlet]

Only class that can res through gunfire

[delicate stratus]

I want more blessings like deflector that adds a cool ass mechanic to weapons

[cyan notch]

you have the best tools for ressing

[patent hatch]

Idk I want to use something apart from the FS

[toxic lintel]

Can ult a group run in and rezz, and push back out

[jaunty atlas]

sure. i do not say it's totally useless, the 10% aura in itself is a justification, and with a void i control and nuke quite well but man ... no.

[elfin crystal]

Oh yeah ok, I meant more for staves lol. Forgot about fs

[uncut hamlet]

Not me though. I haven't seen a deflector since closed beta

[manic needle]

Ogryn...?

[sacred lodge]

just saw someone play with a quickswap macro and.... uh... holy crap, is that legal?

[random wolf]

Until the Sniper comes along

[wise pecan]

Psyker is also bar none the best reviver. I don’t think any other class can just casually walk through a horde, getting shot at by gunners, and revive a guy out of position

[random wolf]

[elfin crystal]

That's a fair point

[languid osprey]

right now i run burning with the sword deflect and the talent that reduces cd on the ult by killing elites

it feels a cool change from being blinded by surge but idk if it better or worse tbh

[toxic lintel]

That's fair, its a great perk sadly that other weapons dont have

[delicate stratus]

I wish I had a cool sword. All i've got is a godrolled tactical axe

[uncut hamlet]

Gets knocked off by the push gunners have if there are too many

[delicate stratus]

which is handy but I wanna be a knockoff jedi

[wise pecan]

Ogryn only can if you’re willing to die for it

[toxic lintel]

Psykers can be great at just blocking and not dying

[languid osprey]

with the feat that block with ur charge it feels awesome

[patent hatch]

Ogryn is a lot better at ressing lol

[elfin crystal]

Ogryn needs toughness to res iirc

[bronze pulsar]

zealot can grenade res in a horde and ogryn cant be interrupted. idk what hordes you guys are ressing under but if its an actual horde you're instadead like anybody else

[wise pecan]

Their shield doesn’t protect while ressubg

[pure lion]

Rate my setup

[wise pecan]

Not with peril blocking

[uncut hamlet]

Gunners. Peril block.

[elfin crystal]

No meant the white bar sorry. Not the shield shield

[delicate stratus]

Mn yes spicy staff

[patent hatch]

it's more the passive which makes them not stop with damage, and the ult which stuns everything

[jaunty atlas]

i would put some block on my sword, but nice

[pure lion]

Saving up the pla steel

[jaunty atlas]

^^

[delicate stratus]

Girl get you some maniac damage on that flame staff

Then you can reliably stun ragers

[wise pecan]

But they can still be shoved, or just straight up get downed too. Psyker won’t, if they have deflector

[toxic lintel]

Plus smaller target gets shot less

[languid osprey]

so other that qol and things like that what would u guys change so psyker feels more better or unique?

[delicate stratus]

Warp charges fall off one at a time.

Instant QoL there.

[toxic lintel]

Yes

[patent hatch]

Idk I don;t want to be locked into one weapon

[languid osprey]

mood

[uncut hamlet]

Make warp charges feel more impactful, make bb feel less irritating to use, better staff m1s, a couple feat reworks because a good portion of the tree sucks

[toxic lintel]

More force melee weapons would be nice

[jaunty atlas]

the problem with purge is the range. i understand that each staff has it's dedicated usage but you're limiting yourself hard

[delicate stratus]

Make psychic communion baseline.

[pure lion]

A curio perk that increases quell speed would be a nice QoL addition

[toxic lintel]

Purge is just bad for your range

[uncut hamlet]

Would love this

[sage crypt]

Hello siblings

[uncut hamlet]

Everyone takes it anyway

Almost mandatory

[manic needle]

Dont worry Im sure they'll get around to it in like half a year. Im not very hopeful considering they won't even hotfix out the seizure-inducing Surge staff vfx

[delicate stratus]

Yeah I can't really run anything else on that tier because it's the legit only way to maintain stacks without wanting to kill yourself lol

[wise pecan]

I mean, fair, but even then without a force sword psyker is still very good at just walking up to a buried ally and reviving them. They can take way more punishment before they have to stop blocking than anyone else

[toxic lintel]

Still run it but leaves you needing deflector and/or teammates to take out ranged

[delicate stratus]

A great QoL would be a little better visuals for the F ability cause it currently is hard to gauge range unless you play with it a lot

[uncut hamlet]

You don't. Non force weapons can be used with peril block too, and are actually better than fs at blocking just melee since the passive quell outspeeds what you get from blocking

[delicate stratus]

The range is hilariously big if you use blaze and try to snipe stuff with it lol

[languid osprey]

it is

[uncut hamlet]

Yea I never realized how big the range was till I got to 30

Goes through walls too

[toxic lintel]

Hit stuff across the map it feels

[patent hatch]

deflector is the bit I am toalking aobut

[wise pecan]

I remember one time I Ascendant Blaze sniped a sniper that I didn’t even realize was still there

[delicate stratus]

passive quelling also needs a tiny change. It has this weirdness where it will stop passively quelling when you swap weapons/to BB

[toxic lintel]

Thatls a bug I think

[uncut hamlet]

Even without it psyker is better than ogryn at resing because of peril block

[jaunty atlas]

deflector should proc on any psyker weapon.

[delicate stratus]

Nah deflector should be unique to force sword

[patent hatch]

spicy but shitty charge rate :(

[uncut hamlet]

Every psyker buff so far has been a bug fix lol

[delicate stratus]

and more weapons should have unique blessings like that

[toxic lintel]

Touché

[languid osprey]

with 5 new bugs to compensate

[delicate stratus]

Like imagine a blessing for dueling sword that changes the heavy attack to have extended reach

like a psychic lance

that'd be cool af

[uncut hamlet]

Part of why deflector makes sense is because force sword has an energy shield for a block. Deflector on a sword doesn't make sense. You're a wizard, not zoro

[wise pecan]

Yeah, evidently the devs must be happy with psyker as it is

[manic needle]

Are there other Psyker-specific weapons you can block with? I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I also just woke up not that long ago.

[toxic lintel]

Nah just force sword

[jaunty atlas]

he channels it with his hand, this is not the sword doing it

i can accept it, but utimately, this is psyker martial arts

not a technology

[toxic lintel]

More force weapons would be a good way of sharing that trait whilst giving variety

[uncut hamlet]

One thing I'd love to see changed about psyker is seeing a staff in my shop more than once every two hours

[frank moat]

honestly the FS block animation would be compatible with every other Pskyer melee weapon right now

[jaunty atlas]

yep

[jaunty atlas]

nope, i meant all weapons 🙂

[toxic lintel]

God I miss crafting weapons

[uncut hamlet]

I swear the requisitorium guy thinks I'm a vet with how many accatrans I get

Many are pretty good too

[toxic lintel]

That and axes too

[uncut hamlet]

Yea

[frank moat]

I bought a 380 autogun this morning

just cus it was there

[languid osprey]

got 5 pistols on my daily shop

[frank moat]

never gonna use it

[uncut hamlet]

Meanwhile I haven't found a deflector since beta

[languid osprey]

pain

[uncut hamlet]

First week of beta too

And then never again

[manic needle]

I have like 3 of those lol

[jaunty atlas]

i hoard them because i can see psy-ammo coming.

atm having a gun is an insult to your class

but maybe one day ...

[uncut hamlet]

Having a psyker twist to weapons would be extremely cool I think

[delicate stratus]

It's not bad to use a gun.

[uncut hamlet]

It would make it feel not so shit using non force weapons

[languid osprey]

hooming bullets that can deal BB

[delicate stratus]

But staves are just too awesome.

[languid osprey]

ez game

[manic needle]

Fatshark really was like "What is the worst possible loot system we could design for a horde shooter?"

[pure lion]

Yeah psychically empowering ammo would be cool, maybe at the trade off of increasing peril with each shot?

[uncut hamlet]

I chose psyker because I wanna be a space wizard, not a vet that can sometimes pop heads

[jaunty atlas]

well in the lore they just penetrate anything and explode but ..

[delicate stratus]

You know, I t hink the system is gonna be great. It's just... missing a bunch of pieces.

For some reason

[frank moat]

Gimme an ult that makes all of my attacks have the 10% chance to BB for like 10 seconds

[delicate stratus]

Like all the crafting and other stuff

[frank moat]

would be hella fun on a fast gun

[uncut hamlet]

Would be great if tencent wasn't present in fs's upper management

[undone quiver]

What is it that makes brutal momentum good on the axe? The combat axe specifically

[uncut hamlet]

Imagine if the polish of the cash shop was applied to gameplay instead

[jaunty atlas]

one day -cough- https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Psycannon

[tardy flower]

Fixes its cleave

[uncut hamlet]

Makes it go through everything, even crushers. Imagine infinite cleave with axe damage

[languid osprey]

why we cant use money to roll the shop?

[delicate stratus]

Rannick isn't going to trust the convict psyker with a fucking cannon lmao

[languid osprey]

i want to see more combat knifes

[delicate stratus]

'here have a weapon that could easily and irreparably damage the ship'

[jaunty atlas]

we just need some grey knight accelerated formation. 3 days intensive and whoop. honorary medal and access to gk weaponry.

[uncut hamlet]

They trust us with boltguns. Plus, by 30 we're official members of the warband with inquisitorial rosettes

[delicate stratus]

Yeah that's fair, but a standard bolter is at least kinda reasonable

[south monolith]

Cash shop isn't even polished itself. A rotation instead of a simple menu is just goofy

[frank moat]

there was a post on Reddit few hours ago saying they found code suggesting this is coming

[delicate stratus]

A psycannon is a weapon the psyker probably couldn't lift

lol

[jaunty atlas]

yeah no. rannick would not trust us with his cactii

[uncut hamlet]

Yea I agree, probably not a cannon but I just want more force weapons

Psychic guns would be very cool

[manic needle]

Hard disagree, treating the loot system like this game is an MMORPG is bad. That sort of RNG based loot only really works in a game with serious long-term itemization and endgame content.

Darktide simply does not have that kind of gameplay loop, and I doubt it ever will.

[frank moat]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zpl8ed/psa_weapon_store_rerolls_are_coming_probably_with/

[jaunty atlas]

it would be nice but imho, they need to permit usage of regular guns with a synergy on psyker

[south monolith]

Ya but in 2024

[languid osprey]

praise the omnissiah

[sacred lodge]

tried to do make a quickswap macro for force sword, and... yeah, that failed. probably better off without it since that seems like a grey territory

[uncut hamlet]

If they implement this I'll be so fucking happy

[dusky lantern]

Time to switch to axe gaming?

[frank moat]

3 rerolls with increasing costs per store reset because we can't have anything too nice

[delicate stratus]

Which is why I said it's clearly missing parts. There's evidence of a reroll cash system, lots of crafting options, and clearly incomplete methodology for the Emperors Gift. It's a partial system, so of course its shit.

I'll try to be positive about it and just have fun deleting heretics.

[uncut hamlet]

VII is really nice apparently

[echo parrot]

Nah, cant have us lowly psykers outdoing the godtier vets now can we. We must stay in out holes and cry.

[manic needle]

Still just a bandaid. It doesnt fix RNG loot, it just gives you more procs.

[uncut hamlet]

At the very least they nailed the core gameplay of the actual combat

[languid osprey]

we could infinite roll with real money

[delicate stratus]

Ye, that's true

[manic needle]

Yeah man the gameplay is fun I just want better systems to support it.

[south monolith]

More Gear lotto

[uncut hamlet]

It's probably the most important part of the game

The rest can be fixed eventually

[delicate stratus]

Fatshark is usually great about nailing its core and then fucking up everything else only to slowly fix it over time

[uncut hamlet]

That's what I've seen yea

I'm just really hoping they make the game complete before we bleed players

I wanna see the game succeed

[delicate stratus]

And hey, they sometimes iterate in incredible ways. I remember when Chaos Wastes first came out

shit was cash and still is

[grave bobcat]

The FS has no right to cleave as much as it does lol

[uncut hamlet]

It wouldn't be too hard to fit in lore wise in Darktide

A deep dive into the undercity

[echo parrot]

Already feels like that kinda. It is a pain for me to find damnation pugs nowadays

[grave bobcat]

😢 why do they have to be so fun

[echo parrot]

Of course I am sure thats just because most people are playing malice/heresy

[uncut hamlet]

Really? I've been having an easier time finding them than before

Only takes a couple canceled queues before finding one

[grave bobcat]

Heresy the same story for me, but Malice is instant lvl 30's lmao

[uncut hamlet]

Heresy I find almost instantly

That's weird

[toxic lintel]

It'll take time for people to get comfortable with damnation

[uncut hamlet]

I figured more of the player base was moving up in difficulty or smth

[echo parrot]

Malice is what I queue for if I want the "walk through the park with Mr. Blue Sky playing in the background" experience. Its too easy for me at this point.

[uncut hamlet]

Yea it's funny to me that I had any difficulty with malice in the first week

[grave bobcat]

I just can't play Malice

[uncut hamlet]

I do it pretty easily even on my lv 6 zealot

[grave bobcat]

It's too boring and I just end up fucking about

[toxic lintel]

Having a feel for the game does help

[echo parrot]

For a meme I sometimes do knife only runs on Malice

The funny

[manic needle]

Heresy and Damnation are what you queue for when you want to meet random Ogryn players who stack +wound curios and yell at the team every time they go down.

[grave bobcat]

I've been doing that on Damnation lmfao

Or just melee only in general tbh I'm trying out all the weapons

[uncut hamlet]

Nah idk what ogryns you've been seeing but all of mine have been wholesome

[echo parrot]

Same, nothing but wholgryns in my experience.

[toxic lintel]

See that more in vets who don't use melee every

[manic needle]

90% of the toxic players I meet are Ogryns and the other 9% are Veterans. The 1% goes to the wildcard Vet or fellow Psyker.

[grave bobcat]

I think the only toxic players I've encountered were Ogryns lmfao

[uncut hamlet]

That's crazy

You're in ogryn hell

All the bad ogryns come to you

[manic needle]

Yes.

[echo parrot]

Funnily enough the most toxic players I encountered (and fortunately enough there havent been many at all in the 200 hours I have played) have mostly been zealots

[uncut hamlet]

Same with me

[bronze pulsar]

does anybody know if the force sword special hits weak spot somehow? like if you aimed there?

[grave bobcat]

ye it does

[uncut hamlet]

It does

[cyan notch]

always try to hit with heavy headshot

[grave bobcat]

Use it on Mauler feet though to 1 tap them 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

I had a toxic vet who went absolutely ape for five minutes and then ragequit because I didn’t agree to votekick because a zealot *gasp* ran ahead of the group

[bronze pulsar]

is it based on the initial hit llocation or the special followup?

[grave bobcat]

Just where you land your swing

[zinc phoenix]

It was low intensity malice and the guy was losing his mind

[bronze pulsar]

oh really? im gonna test it in the pysk but that makes me happy with this FS

[manic needle]

I had a toxic Ogryn who went down and then yelled at me after I clutch rescued following two hordes, because I "didn't do enough DPS to save him" (against unarmored and infested with a Surge staff)

[grave bobcat]

The only enemy you shouldn't aim for head is mauler I think. Just leg sweep them to 1 tap

Or at least other enemies don't get 1 tapped hitting them elsewhere that its worth doing

[zinc phoenix]

Oh I’ve yet to have people go nuts over stuff like that on any difficulty. Most people seem to get that a team wipe is a team effort 😂

[patent hatch]

is going out with a bang diffrent elite or the same

[uncut hamlet]

Yea most wipes are when the team loses formation

[uncut hamlet]

Doesn't matter

Just 3 elites

[manic needle]

This guy yelled at some random guy for wandering off (he was covering another teammate) before proceeding to run off on his own and get downed. I think they may have been an Ogryn IRL.

[uncut hamlet]

Your luck Wil turn eventually

Most ogryns are wholesome

You're bound to find a brog or grug

With how many there are

[warped perch]

I would hug an ogryn if it wouldn’t break my spine

[pure lion]

Maybe I’ve just been lucky, but in all my matches I’ve not really encountered anyone who threw a fit in chat. Most of my wipes have been because someone accidentally over-pulled and we get overwhelmed, or we just had bad luck.

[acoustic scaffold]

... is it normal i hate brain bust so much, i would rather take out my las to deal with shotgunners than using it instead?

[manic needle]

It's normal to hate BB, healthy even.

[acoustic scaffold]

Just wanted to use it, only for the last second to be interrupted anyway by some trash npc

[warped perch]

The only thing I hate about brain burst is keeping up stacks

[tight saddle]

I had a guy yell at me for looking for materials saying I'm going to get disabled. I killed every disabler that came at me while he ate every disabler that targeted him. Still blaming me for some reason even if I got the disabler off of him.

Some people refuse to admit they struggle against some enemy types.

[grave bobcat]

Trying to think what causes most of my wipes

And I can't name anything specific

[pure lion]

Lol scroll up about 200 messages, we just had this convo at length

[uncut hamlet]

Use communion. It sucks, but the best way to deal with charges is to take a couple feats for them and ignore them entirely

[grave bobcat]

Usually if I go down the specials overrun my teammates to be fair, but I shouldn't of been downed

[warped perch]

Which feats would you recommend then besides communion

[acoustic scaffold]

I think i am going to stop playing psyker for now and stick with vet or ogryn
That class isn't for me 😔

[grave bobcat]

Instinctive spacebar spamming lmao

@tight saddle

[tight saddle]

Lmao warp athleticism kicked in

[uncut hamlet]

I use ascendant blaze and communion. Usually communion alone is enough to maintain charges during hordes. I run a purge build so go battery instead of flayer, but I know people have good experiences with flayer as well

[pure lion]

If you run Purg staff, then ascending blaze ult

[manic needle]

Least barrel aggroing Veteran

[grave bobcat]

Imaging wiping on t1 difficulty like that 💀

[echo parrot]

Hol' up, you can dodge in air?

[grave bobcat]

I vault the fence lol

[warped perch]

I’m using voidstrike, would you recommend purge tho?

[echo parrot]

Ah

[warped perch]

Thanks

[pure lion]

Lmao flying around like a Jedi

[sacred lodge]

I had that happen once in throneside
poxwalker blew me clear past the ledge, straight into the void

[grave bobcat]

My brain just kinda hits space when I'm midair

[grave bobcat]

Oh I got tossed off the map earlier by a mutant lmao

[sacred lodge]

to be fair, I was only with bots at that time

[grave bobcat]

But this one was extra special cause it was ALMOST a wipe

[echo parrot]

Wanna cringe? My jump is bound to CTRL

[pure lion]

Tbh use whatever the best staff you have is. They’re all perfectly viable imo

[grave bobcat]

My crouch is bound to my mouse 🙂

And jump scrollwheel

[sacred lodge]

fun fact, if you get captured if all that's left is bots, you instantly fail

[warped perch]

I just like voidstrike cuz it’s longer range

[echo parrot]

Heresy

[grave bobcat]

You brought it on yourself lmfao

[tight saddle]

I still haven't been combo'd as hard as when a mutant threw me off a ledge, 2 snipers shot me midair, and the fall damage downed me.

[sacred lodge]

I mean I have crouch bound to my mouse in Warframe. would have it here too if dodge weren't so vital

[sacred lodge]

jesus, even the AI have better teamwork than the average PUG

[bronze pulsar]

i wasnt aware FS does so much dmg with the special, i hardly ever used it in melee.

[grave bobcat]

I can't break my muscle memory from OW/Apex so I just put it on my mouse for every game lol

[bronze pulsar]

is melee pysker viable on damnation lmao

[grave bobcat]

Yup

[echo parrot]

Yes

[sacred lodge]

it is, but it's a niche

[grave bobcat]

I've been doing melee only Psyker to keep it interesting 😛

Its fun

[warped perch]

Despite the changes needed I still think psyker is the most fun class tbh

[sacred lodge]

also, remember to use block pushback when using force sword. one of the best crowd CCs in the game

[tight saddle]

Don't let some Psykers read you say this though, they'll screech telling you it's not possible or shouldn't be done.

[bronze pulsar]

yeah im just so tired of doing surge staff. i tried gun psyker since i had a perfect recon but i didnt find it fun

[grave bobcat]

Cause they can't lelel

[sacred lodge]

gun psyker sounds interesting on paper, but honestly with what we have available to us, if you want to play gun psyker, you might as well give veteran a try

[grave bobcat]

Diet Vet

[warped perch]

That’s how I feel too

Psyker is made for force weapons, otherwise it’s just like a worse vet

[bronze pulsar]

thats exactly what i felt. okay i get a free BB every 15 seconds but overall its more about the gun being good and there's no real synergy. and a lot of the time i was still BBing from cover on damnations

[tight saddle]

No need to Vet when gun Psyker does just fine. Ranged weapons are so powerful that you don't need Vet bonuses, just click on heads.

[grave bobcat]

^

As long as it 1 taps the basic shooters you're good really

imo

[bronze pulsar]

in a shootout, the vet's toughness recharge is amazing. gun psyker i was doing a lot more ducking under cover to recharge toughness so the output was not as good

[grave bobcat]

Game I pray, please don't grief my claw sword

[bronze pulsar]

like sure it works, its a role psyker can fill, but its much slower

[warped perch]

Idk if it’s just me but I find staves can decimate hordes pretty well

[cobalt bone]

Some can some cant

[grave bobcat]

Neat

[warped perch]

Yeah true

[cobalt bone]

I found the void staff very good for clear

[meager eagle]

would this be worth upgrading to gold?

[warped perch]

Yeah void staff is just so explody

[manic needle]

Voidstrike is for Heretic Bowling

[stark snow]

imo ya

[warped perch]

Can I have this please 🥺

[echo parrot]

If you are good at clicking heads and have the "all ranged units" lvl 30 feat on vet, then you just have borderline endless double damage.

So I really do say that gun psyker is very diet vet simply for that reason

[grave bobcat]

But at least you can't miss when killing Snipers/Bombers 🥲

[echo parrot]

Not to mention that their ability recharges while you are are using it, so if you are able to keep it up long enough as soon as it falls off you can just activate it again.

[meager eagle]

got run n gun as my 2nd blessing 😭

hopefully re-bless comes soon

[stark snow]

😦

[warped perch]

Hashtag blessed

[stark snow]

at least its not a full troll like this

[meager eagle]

oh bruh 💀

[manic needle]

Someday I will go gun psyker just to get revenge on Veterans for deleting my Warp Charge stacks so that they can see their name in the upper left hand corner of the screen.

"Oh hey, you're low on ammo with that bolter you used to snipe my brain burst targets? Me too :)"

[warped perch]

Lmao what

[tight saddle]

I haven't played in a few days, the mobile game gacha system to get blessings on weapons burned me out after nearly 300 hours of never getting what I want.

[stark snow]

game decided to give me the greatest white rolls, and then the worst possible blessings

well idk, arguable whether focused channeling or run'n gun is worse but

still

[lament glen]

donezo

[grave bobcat]

You better have read all of that Gawain 😠

[frank tartan]

I think focused channelling is good on the purgatus, because it's a pain to be charging it, and then get staggered out of it losing your attack

[tight saddle]

lol

[manic needle]

Focused Channeling honestly shouldnt even have to be a thing IMO.

[sacred lodge]

huh... apparently someone already thought up of a half decent gun psyker build before I went off on a tangent thinking it was a "worse veteran"

I really should stop

[lament glen]

gimme a break its 7am

i cant even read what im typing

[stark snow]

I mean, a half decent gun psyker build is still kind of a worse vet for the most part, but that's ok

[silent bison]

next person to talk will immediately gain 90% peril

wait

[grave bobcat]

I always knew mods couldn't read.

[echo parrot]

Reading is for nerds and locker dwellers

[grave bobcat]

The build hasn't been peer reviewed! It could be horrendous!

[stark snow]

im just gonna abandon my staff and craft an autogun with high crucian rulette

so when I finish crafting it, that will get nerfed

[grave bobcat]

Mislead by the Darktide Discord!

[bronze pulsar]

if they had a gun that would count as a force gun maybe it would be okay with the 15% high peril feat. but then you have to mess with the downtime of BBing shit for stacks, especially if you opt for 6 stacks instead of the BB proc

[jaunty atlas]

that's why you asked me if my bones were purple too. hmm.

[tight saddle]

Isn't that the main purpose of this Discord?

[bronze pulsar]

actually no, i assume a force gun would raise its own peril. it would work well

[grave bobcat]

eehh little column A little column B

[jaunty atlas]

i thought discord was main for people to understand why i'm right

i guess i'm wrong

[grave bobcat]

And omg Raham pinging mods for no reason

smh

[jaunty atlas]

shameful

[spiral shell]

hey guys, what a wrap charge ?

[jaunty atlas]

nicely done

[ornate hamlet]

It's what you pay at TacoBell

[spiral shell]

shame I don't have tacobell in my country

[echo parrot]

Force revolver when

[bronze pulsar]

im out i want to be a recon lasgunner like the cool vets

[cyan notch]

aka i need ammo

[echo parrot]

Bruh, psyker gunslinger with a big iron.

Recon las would just be psyker cosplaying as a vet

[spiral shell]

so nobody knows what's a wrap charge ?

[echo parrot]

Way too similar

[bronze pulsar]

its the thing where you pay extra for them to wrap the presents up for you

[spiral shell]

wait I think got the problem

it's warp charge

[stark snow]

hmm, has anyone done any testing on terrifying barrage? does it just not work in the test area or is it a full brick?

[grave bobcat]

Is that the suppression one?

[stark snow]

ya

[grave bobcat]

Haven't done anything with it myself

[cyan notch]

it does work

[grave bobcat]

Consider it a useless blessing imo

[cyan notch]

whenever im void blasting hordes some guys just get scared and cover their heads and afk for a bit

doesnt last too long

like 1s tops

[echo parrot]

Yeah, I noticed the same effect.

[stark snow]

yeah but they do that without the blessing

[orchid imp]

what should i be looking for on my curios?

[echo parrot]

I actually havent noticed them do it on staves that I dont have that blessing

[ornate hamlet]

it works and its really good, means u have time to recharge and dont have to worry about guys getting into melee range. Its like a pseudo shield in some ways.

[echo parrot]

Theres a dif between the blessing affecting them and the blast radius of a void affecting them

[stark snow]

if I flamer near a ranged guy at another ranged guy, without the blessing, they run/cower

if I kill (close range) I'm not seeing any diff in the affect between blessing or not

[echo parrot]

Ah purg

I dont know then

[jaunty atlas]

purg is a meme. a huge meme.

i'm really trying to like it

the dps is crap, the range is crap, the peril consumtpion could be worse i guess.

[cyan notch]

up to you tbh just dont take xp or dockets or curio mission reward and you can take some damage res against stuff that annoys you

[jaunty atlas]

and the flame colour is actually not warpy

[echo parrot]

There are two types of purg users: Those that barely do anything, and those that make you go "How the fuck are you doing that?!" There is no in-between.

[jaunty atlas]

i burn everything, but i cant kill shot

[echo parrot]

I see you are in the former then

Keep in mind that I am not a purg user, I am speaking from seeing other purg users.

[languid osprey]

purg is easier on the eyes so is better than surge

[jaunty atlas]

i guess so.

also : snipers can go through peril block ?

[languid osprey]

but yeah i fell what u are saying

[grave bobcat]

Depends if you're the user or the victim.

[meager eagle]

oh!

[supple skiff]

yeah sniper goes though deflector block

[cyan notch]

yes

[meager eagle]

no deflector but still nice to see

[jaunty atlas]

let's reformulate : compared to void, i control shit, i kill shit and i feel like i'm doing shit

[jaunty atlas]

ok ty

[languid osprey]

dump stats for void?

[grave bobcat]

Sho us the sword 😠

[jaunty atlas]

sho !

[unreal salmon]

yo is psyker able to obtain the power sword by any chance?

[grave bobcat]

Nop

[jaunty atlas]

we have the force sword

[grave bobcat]

Power Sword is only vets isn't it?

[jaunty atlas]

y

we can block a lot of stuff, we can wiggle our arm and maybe the thing does the thing

and someone dies

[grave bobcat]

Hidden tank class

[supple skiff]

psyker is tank class and vet is melee god as devs intended lmao

[grave bobcat]

Doesn't make sense to me why Ogryns aren't much stronger in melee too

But its a video game 🤷

[supple skiff]

big bois should have a blade weapon that does what the power sword does

[jaunty atlas]

like .. a power .. maul ?

[grave bobcat]

^

I was thinking something like that

Reinhardt hammer lmao

[bronze pulsar]

do you guys run wounds on damnation or nah

[grave bobcat]

I don't

[jaunty atlas]

i run only wounds.

[supple skiff]

I meant in terms of damage and cleave

[jaunty atlas]

you get hit you dive anyway

[supple skiff]

not just a power weapon, nuts to me that vets are the cleave gods and ogryns are not

[bronze pulsar]

tbh i do die die a lot without wounds, especially on areas where the team has to run around a lot and its not my premade

[jaunty atlas]

ogryn is not like a vet, it has a lot to synergize on his melee

it would break the balance

[grave bobcat]

Position better 🙂

[supple skiff]

balance

[grave bobcat]

Or find out where you're taking damage a lot and see if you can address it

[bronze pulsar]

well i cna try but a lot of the time the team is like later dude we gotta recharge tehse batteries and charge off and im like fuck i'll just huddle and deal with this horde i guess

[cyan notch]

wounds are great cuz you have so much more effective hp before dying but you have to get revived

[grave bobcat]

Well thats on you imo

[cyan notch]

if ur team leaves u ur wounds are just wasted

[jaunty atlas]

well getting wounded is not always a problem. with +3 wounds you have 150hp*3. the downside is counting on your teammates

but usually, it goes well

[grave bobcat]

Either make sure you can survive on your own, or stay with your team better 😛

[sacred lodge]

just can't seem to figure out for the life of me how not to get hit in melee. there's always like one or two jackasses that take a potshot at me that just sneak up from behind

[jaunty atlas]

paranoia my friend

and always strafe left when you hear the noise

[livid dirge]

And you get more bombs 😏

[grave bobcat]

Either the old faithful Swing, Block, Push, Swing, repeat method

[bronze pulsar]

well right now im 5/7 on pickup damnations and i do them a lot if im not farmign weeklies, so im not always fail. but basically its either smooth or i get wrecked. and i realize whenever theres a lot of moving chaotically around an area, i get wrecked. if the team is methodical its easy but some parts of some maps dont give you that option

[grave bobcat]

Or again, positioning 🥲

[jaunty atlas]

sometimes they just plain spawn behind you.

[grave bobcat]

And y'all should be moving to deal with it then if it always happens lol

[cyan notch]

that dropdown in the desert area to get to excise vault is always a death valley

[grave bobcat]

Can't think which one

[sacred lodge]

also, I get the feeling that there needs to be someone to prioritize enemies using guns.

not gunners specifically, just ANYONE with a gun

[grave bobcat]

Yup

[sacred lodge]

because that seems to be what ends a run the most

just a firing squad of scabs or moebians

[grave bobcat]

Either you can clear them if no one else is

[jaunty atlas]

i'm under the impression i get a lot more procs from 3A when i run purg. are our kills really proccing it ?

[grave bobcat]

Or just pick your sight lines until whoever is dealing with them does it

[sacred lodge]

usually it ends up being me having to kinetic deflector into melee range

[cyan notch]

yes? any kills in coherency does it

[grave bobcat]

That works too

[jaunty atlas]

are you super sure ?

meatgrinder says otherwise

[cyan notch]

wdym

[bronze pulsar]

what do you mean? i've seen in meatgrinder i get stacks from my own random kills

[jaunty atlas]

i cant proc it in meatgrinder, and i'm considered in coherency

[sacred lodge]

just straight up pull a Medic in Two Cities and just shield to victory

[meager eagle]

no deflector and meh perks 😔

[jaunty atlas]

are you really ultra mega sure ?

[grave bobcat]

I haven't tried deflector FS yet

I'll get around to it

[grave bobcat]

Let us see the griefed FS

[bronze pulsar]

hrm unless they broke it the last patch im mega sure i've gotten the 4% proc from my own kills yes. i was testing all this stuff on release

[grave bobcat]

I proc the 4% also

[jaunty atlas]

hmm.

[meager eagle]

will show in just a few 😓

[echo parrot]

Show us

[grave bobcat]

Oh dear.

[jaunty atlas]

then it must be me. thanks 🙂

[meager eagle]

i may have accidentally walked off the side of the map

[grave bobcat]

Kinda funny I think the only times I've died this morning is cause of Bursters lol

[meager eagle]

wtf i just got a contract completed but im dead

[worn canopy]

Well done

[jaunty atlas]

melk is happy both ways

[grave bobcat]

And myself blowing up -.-

[jaunty moth]

if u were runnink mk v axe you wold have clutched that

[runic hornet]

i think I was a vet that game

and I think I was meming with shovel

so I kinda got what I deserved

(as you can tell by me being dead)

[grave bobcat]

This made me laugh

[ornate hamlet]

not even ur fault tbh

why shoot the poxburster when its on someone

[grave bobcat]

Prob new players

Was doing Malice for my grims since the only grim mission

-1 grim

[ornate hamlet]

yea

tough

[grave bobcat]

Pretty funny tbh lol

They've been doing that shit to me ALL day

[sacred lodge]

I wish I could like veteran more, but I already have potato aiming, so

[grave bobcat]

I was swinging at a door, one spawns inside the door. Insta-kills me.

[cyan notch]

i thought u just had to pick up grim for it to count

[sacred lodge]

it's best to stick with a class that doesn't need aiming. ergo, psyker

[ornate hamlet]

i swear the guns all have massive bloom

[grave bobcat]

They do if you're being suppressed

[ornate hamlet]

ill shoot a las gun while staying completely still and see the bullet deviate like 10 degrees

[meager eagle]

could be supression

[ornate hamlet]

i see why vets never shoot snipers

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[ornate hamlet]

bullet goes to the next fuckin map when they try to shoot something that far

[sacred lodge]

I've seen some veterans who I swear could hit a fly a few miles off with a rock thrown by their hand

but I've also seen just as many who couldn't hit a reaper if it were right in front of them, while not being suppressed

[magic burrow]

What about the plasma gun? Seems to be the veteran version of the voidstrike staff.

[worn canopy]

Can’t wait for the update to make staffs malfunction under suppression or something

[grave bobcat]

Another burster griefing me

Covert Burster

[jaunty atlas]

also : question about flame stacks. in damn at 4 stacks i do 28/tick. at 8 i do 101, at 12 i do 202 but at 16 i do 302 ... i don't understand the scaling

[jaunty moth]

lucky you are

[cyan notch]

not mine lol

[worn canopy]

Damn

Don’t post that here

We will proceed to go feral

[jaunty atlas]

what does a psyker channel in feral mode ?

spam witness your doom soundclips ?

uwu is already taken by the vets

[magic burrow]

angry twitter posts

[jaunty atlas]

oh

[magic burrow]

hehe

[jaunty atlas]

no. zealot thinks he's a one man army and rush a group of 10 ogryns. this post has been made by a zealot.

[grave bobcat]

Squish

tfw no peril block

[jaunty atlas]

and ogryns think about rashuns

[undone quiver]

ogryns think

Lol good joke

[jaunty atlas]

ogryns write poetry

[jaunty moth]

new void staff and i love it

[jaunty atlas]

brainstorming

[undone quiver]

Is there a consensus on what you want your trinkets to havehave? Like aside from the usual "health and wounds gud"?

[jaunty atlas]

at 3 wounds corruption resist is really nice, gunner of course, i use a bit of sprint too because i'm slow af i don't know why

[raven scarab]

does this thing work on malice now or still have to do on heresy?

[jaunty atlas]

works on malice

[violet yoke]

log on to check the vendor for a big win today! hope she rolls nice.

[jaunty atlas]

!!!

[echo parrot]

gimme

[magic burrow]

oggers

[bronze pulsar]

good luck, you can do it! three good rolls in a row lol

[bronze pulsar]

i went all health like i do my zealot and im thinking now about 1 wounds and 2 health. i tried stacking toughness, its never felt good to me

[pine iris]

Martack, drop your health pack

[jaunty atlas]

penance !

[echo parrot]

Martack, we can see your entrails. You are not fine.

[cyan notch]

i trust marteck

[pine iris]

proclamation: low intensity damnation is the best DarkTide difficulty for gameplay

[grave bobcat]

False prophet

[ebon jolt]

Nice! Just need to roll that crit damage into +25% flak armor damage.

[ebon jolt]

Does corruption resist work on wound corruption?

[jaunty atlas]

nope

[jaunty moth]

thats the plan

[shadow wigeon]

Is there any merit to force weapon + gun build?

[ebon jolt]

If the force sword was better at wave clear. Maybe once they release new force weapons.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I was experimenting in grinder and it just feels like a weird combo. I couldn't find a feat combo either that really enhanced it, meaningfully.

Single target elim seems fast, but to what end

[jaunty moth]

there u go

[grave bobcat]

I was about to say in here its insane how good FS is at clearing lmfao

[jaunty moth]

now i just need blessing combining lol

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah? How so? I'm struggling to see it

[ebon jolt]

Are you using macros?

[grave bobcat]

I do have some but not for what I'm doing rn

Slaughterer blessing just makes it a lawnmower

[stark snow]

I have yet to see a slaughterer FS 😦

[grave bobcat]

😦

[stark snow]

slaughterer and deflector the dream

[jaunty moth]

ive got 2 fs since this game came out and im almost 300 hours in

[ebon jolt]

Not exorcist? Or too slow for quell?

[stark snow]

to me slaughterer would just be more impactful imo

I mostly use sword anyway

[ebon jolt]

Or you swap to a voidstaff for quell 😂

[stark snow]

I just almost never actually quell

[orchid nest]

I agree. I actually like exorcist but it's behind those two so

[stark snow]

a handful of certain situations like where we have an easy choke and I just want to spam purg

then I quell a bit

but normally once my peril gets high, I just switch to sword and go to town

I'm a filthy macro user though too

[surreal needle]

I have a really dumb question but i thought i might aswell see what people think, what skills would be best for a gun psyker? Ive been playing it as a joke but im actually having fun

[stark snow]

and slaughterer would be imo insane with amcro

[grave bobcat]

It is lmao

[stark snow]

like tbh, if I had slaughter I might just use a roulette gun and go full melee

[grave bobcat]

But just the normal swings are really nice too

[night marten]

flayer I think

[glacial abyss]

#psyker-class message this guy dropped a good build

[night marten]

repeated, precise damage means you'll be putting BB's right where you want them every 15 seconds

[orchid nest]

fs and gun is like weirdly good at generating toughness at least with quietitude, using it the opposite way you normally would with a non force melee and just qq spamming the special to get to high peril

[grave bobcat]

Why would you want Exorcist over Slaughterer though :/

[bleak tulip]

because people havent seen the light yet

[bronze pulsar]

sounds like you'd almost be a bad veteran haha

[surreal needle]

That build looks fun but since i have yet to ever get an even half decent force sword, thanks for the advice though

[bronze pulsar]

generating toughness by shooting a guy 😦

[orchid nest]

haha yeah

[stark snow]

pistol build !!! push to get 10 peril

[glacial abyss]

look for greys or greens with good percentages and then upgrade. mad potential and easy to do if you play malice/heresy often

[stark snow]

I just need

a laspistol that is good, with infernus

then I will do it

[mellow spruce]

Most of what psyker does is being a mediocre veteran.

[delicate acorn]

Hi! I'm having trouble figuring out what to do as Psyker when monstrosities are involved. Anyone got advice?

[grave bobcat]

Curious why this tho

Cause I have this 🥲

[stark snow]

I just think infernus big damage upgrade for the pistol

[glacial abyss]

force sword special

[surreal needle]

The laspistol was the entire reason i started playing gunpsyker as a joke

[stark snow]

the toughness on crit kill might be better though

[grave bobcat]

Ignore the FS special, don't get close and spam BB

[orchid nest]

Lol yeah that would be funny. especially with that laspistol firing macro

[delicate acorn]

Ah. You'll have to tell Peddler to cough up some force swords then.

[delicate acorn]

BB feels excruciatingly slow. But I gotcha.

[grave bobcat]

Kinetic Barrage 🙂

[delicate acorn]

Any feats I should be running for that problem?

[bleak tulip]

kinetic barrage

[delicate acorn]

Which one is that? 15-1? I'll find it.

[bleak tulip]

30 3

[stark snow]

fuck it, ima spend my mats to brick this pistol I have

[mellow spruce]

What they said, you should never be using a different level 30 feat, because they all suck.

[grave bobcat]

lmao

[stark snow]

ascendant blaze makes my screen light up pretty though so its bis

[bleak tulip]

its also shit for damage

[glacial abyss]

i like setting enemies on fire ong lol

[stark snow]

damage irrelevant, aesthetic is what matters

[bleak tulip]

honestly based

[glacial abyss]

very true!

[delicate acorn]

Oh. 30-3. I'm not even maxed out yet. Lmao. See y'all in a bit!

In the meantime. Any staff/weapon tech I should know?

They nerfed slide tech so... That's out.

[stark snow]

also ascendant blaze adds min 1 stack even at 0 charges

[bold flint]

Is there a standard base crit chance

[grave bobcat]

diff for all weps

[cerulean beacon]

My Emperor's Gift I just got after Malice mission: What perk would you swap off of it?

[bronze pulsar]

true, really the game is which class between psyker and zealot can be the better worse veteran

[bleak tulip]

ranged crit isnt good on void because RMB barely crits

also 8% damage is laughable at the best of times

[orchid nest]

ranged crit for flak or something

[bleak tulip]

unarmored

[cerulean beacon]

unarmored? for Heresy+?

[bleak tulip]

yeah, less charge time to hit breakpoints on trash

[bronze pulsar]

yeah except for zealot which has feats procing off of crits, i feel like 25% flak is better than basically everything for every weapon

[jaunty moth]

id roll for flak armour

[orchid nest]

yeah unarmored good too, just figured might be able to get away with that with nice tier 3 warp flurry

[ebon jolt]

5% for weapons with no crit bonus stat.

[bleak tulip]

flak isnt bad by any means but you shouldnt shoot rmb at flak if you can help it, if theres a scab rager in the trash sure keep at it but you have a melee weapon to deal with flak armor

if you wanna quellcancel void bolt you can do work on flak with that too but I wouldnt build around it since its a bug

[grave bobcat]

Only reason I'd say Max crit for Void is that Surge blessing I've never seen

[bleak tulip]

also sustained fire is bad since it doesnt help your right click either sadly

[jaunty atlas]

man i start to really like purge

[ebon jolt]

I think it’s most helpful for the dreg melee mobs with flak helmets. Can also help with OHKO LMB on scab ranged units on damnation at +25%.

[jaunty atlas]

you can stack soulblaze with your mates or i'm crazy ?

[bleak tulip]

I dont think you could ever stack soulblaze with multiple players but I could be wrong

[cerulean beacon]

Mmmmk I like the suggestions I'll give it a shot today, def going to swap for that 8%! thx!

[jaunty atlas]

maybe we got separate stacks but everybody burned, i'm sure of that :p

[bleak tulip]

those get knocked over by the first void charge and then die from the second anyway so I wouldnt worry about it personally

but as I said its by no means bad

[ebon jolt]

I have surge on a voidstaff and I don’t think it’s good. On that specific staff. I think it would be good on any other staff.

[grave bobcat]

Don't think it can go on any other staff but 🤷

[night marten]

Darktide blessings list (can also look at class feats and curios) https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits

[grave bobcat]

Its not on there

[ebon jolt]

You need to roll warp nexus, surge & +5% crit chance. But what are you gaining there over using transfer peril and +25% flak/unarmored/infested instead? Being slightly better at killing certain elites and specials at the expense of being worse at mob clear?

[night marten]

oh the site is missing a blessing?

[grave bobcat]

Which is why its a confusing blessing for me lol

Yeah

[night marten]

that's interesting

[grave bobcat]

Mhm

Until I see it I'm just assuming its not real

But it's the fires 2 voidstrike balls on crit

[night marten]

<@&735928989146939404> can we get that blessings list pinned ^

[grave bobcat]

I got that shit bookmarked

but I agree

[night marten]

I've noticed a curio trait that doesn't exist too

[grave bobcat]

Also curio stuff I've never seen before lol

[night marten]

reduced toughness damage, never seen it actually roll

[grave bobcat]

Yup

[pale sky]

👍

[grave bobcat]

And considering I spent a good 10 minutes rolling for my 4% earlier

I don't think it can roll

[vale viper]

I see a lot more void strike staves lately did something happen to it or are people just looking to pump?

[bleak tulip]

I guess people are catching on

or you know, just want to have fun

its certainly one of the more visceral staves to use

[orchid nest]

I imagine the surge vfx thing helped and probably also general burnout using the same staff for so long

[grave bobcat]

I guess it's the best "all around" staff of the 4

[night marten]

have actually seen more purge staffs the past few days

[bleak tulip]

even if surge didnt bore me to tears at the best of times, I probably still wouldnt use it in pubs because you do no damage and have a much harder time carrying with it

[ebon jolt]

It causes the damage of a second non-crit hit to the same spot on the body (can weakspot hit) with the same level if charge of using RMB. It does not fire another ball. It does this damage only to the enemy’s hit with a crit. Works on LMB or RMB.

[orchid nest]

that is an interesting perspective because although I love void I see it as the opposite, I feel like I can carry a worse team through a match with surge

[grave bobcat]

Eh double hits then

Sounds good to me tbh

[undone quiver]

What's good on a surge staff?

[bleak tulip]

doesnt matter tbh

just get overall decent base stats and off you go

[grave bobcat]

Crit Bonus -> Dmg -> Charge rate

Never understood why people say it does no dmg though 🤷

[bleak tulip]

case in point

my man doing challenge runs with a blue surge

because it genuinely doesnt matter

[grave bobcat]

Well thats gonna be easy

[languid osprey]

it does amazing dmg to your eyesight

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-crank-dat-gif-19328104

[undone quiver]

Nice that's what I was kinda thinking

[languid osprey]

surge staff gameplay

[grave bobcat]

lmao I haven't used it since its uhh

update

[languid osprey]

try it

it forced me to search a good purge

and play zealot

[night marten]

what's funny is how the effect is very apparent on any other player screens too

can't even stand next to a surge user in the current state

[orchid nest]

lmao

[languid osprey]

we just need a little switch man

[tough pagoda]

I've not used force swords much. Is this one any good? What are the blessings that you'd want on a force sword?

[bleak tulip]

man am I glad I dont have whatever people have that causes them to get sick from that effect then

sounds like a drag

[night marten]

it's kinda meh, mobility is important and you want the Deflector blessing

[orchid nest]

yeah it's funny too because one of the best things about surge was using it and keeping great situational awareness, stunning and keeping your head on a swivel. now you just can't see anything ever

[languid osprey]

i dont get sick but after a gaming sesion my eyes were so hot

[bleak tulip]

deflector and slaughterer

[stark snow]

ranged crit is probably one of the worst rolls even on something with high crit tbh

ranged crit dam that is

crit chance is usually pretty good

[tough pagoda]

oh the one that you can block ranged?

[bleak tulip]

yes

[tough pagoda]

op

[orchid nest]

this, and unfortunately like to such a degree that having both puts you on an entirely different tier of power than just having one.

[bleak tulip]

case in point pt 2:

"7000 hours of VT2" man uses it too

[stark snow]

goddamn

[grave bobcat]

After doing all these melee runs I don't really want deflector anymore

I want Shred/Slaughter

[bleak tulip]

while I usually dont put too much stock in tryhard builds it does feel validating to finally see someone preach the good word of slaughterer

[stark snow]

the prob with shred is it resets if you macro 😦

resets every hit

[orchid nest]

honestly if I had to pick just one I would probably pick slaughterer first too because after having it horde clear feels awful if you don't have it

[grave bobcat]

not using it anyway atm

Its currently my ping spam 😛

[languid osprey]

do you think FS will add something interesting for us to kill a host? some premium currency on highest dif or something like that would be awesome

[bleak tulip]

I havent been using my deflector sword because I miss slaughterer too much when I do

needing an extra light on a scab shooter is pain

[cerulean beacon]

I would like some sort of currency or hell can I get a gaurunteed RNG drop after mission?

[orchid nest]

haha yeah for sure man, exact same. I dream of the day I can have both

[bleak tulip]

you can only get a max of 20 per week I think

across all characters

someone tested it on reddit

[languid osprey]

thats just dirty

[orchid imp]

what should i look for in my curios?

[bleak tulip]

toughness

then more toughness

toughness regen is neato but not necessary

[cerulean beacon]

Oh i didnt hit the reply button to what I was replying to: I was replying to if we kill Host for rewards at higher diff 🙂

[grave bobcat]

Someone told me that there is an icon on some missions to always get the gift

Not sure if true never checked

[umbral field]

das cap

[bleak tulip]

oh I see

yeah

would be nice to be rewarded for more challenging stuff huh

[cerulean beacon]

[orchid imp]

is ability cooldown worth it or should i go for resists?

[languid osprey]

imagine wanting something after a 30min game u guys are just spoiled

[bleak tulip]

tbh its already so fast and the bonus so small it doesnt really matter imo

[orchid nest]

yeah crafting mats for bosses or something would be nice to replace loot dice reward from vt

[bleak tulip]

like, you get 3 perks on each curio so its nice to have certainly but I wouldnt bend over backwards

[orchid imp]

cool, thank you!

[bleak tulip]

I personally just make sure to get near 20 toughness (15-17% + 4/5%) on each to soak ranged damage

[orchid nest]

I like to take a base like that with the toughness perk already there, upgrade to epic, lock perk to xp so it can't roll and then upgrade it. not sure if there is a better strat

[grave bobcat]

Everyone in here I been reading always stackijng hp

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats probably the only real strat for it tbh

thought about that too for other characters, already had my curios on psyker before they added refining

[grave bobcat]

I just can't see the value in it lol

[bleak tulip]

I mean I would wager most people here mostly play malice, and thats fine

whatever is fun

I played only malice for like two weeks (because I wanted to confirm a win every time because I got 25 mission completes for the first two weeklies )

[grave bobcat]

All claim to play Damnation 🥲

Played it until I was 30 as normal

[ebon jolt]

What about unstable power on FS? Seems like it would be decent. Cast trauma twice, swap to FS and got things. Or is slaughter just more consistent?

[languid osprey]

dam is just not worth the pain to play with randoms

[bleak tulip]

slaughterer gives you a total of 75% damage for trash clear

its unbeatable

[shadow wigeon]

Thank you, just tried this... I was using this build, but recon lasgun was the missing ingredient. This was very fun, on malice

[bleak tulip]

its so ridiculously good that I cant imagine its gonna stay like this

once people finally figure out that slaughterer stacks 5 times because they finally read the description and not just glance at "12.5% power" its gonna be meta on every melee that can have it even for the malice gamers

[ebon jolt]

Each stack only lasts 2 seconds. Or does each additional stack reset the existing stack duration?

[orchid nest]

last game I had the veteran yelled at me to stop helping him with a horde because he was "doing penances" and then he died as soon as I left

[bleak tulip]

all stacks refresh in DT to my knowledge

but I dont know for sure

[languid osprey]

the real penance is playing with those heretics

[bleak tulip]

either way while clearing trash its still gonna give you a lot of damage

even if you just get two stacks its still 25% extra damage, no other blessing comes close to that

[grave bobcat]

my randoms are mostly fine tbh it's finding them thats the issue usually

And most games with bad randoms end in the first 3 mins anyway so no loss really