psyker-class

[full leaf]

really wish the game more alt friendly

[cyan notch]

when i try it says hostiles on board and wont let u click it

[full leaf]

makes me want to stick to one class, and thats a hard decision

[tranquil fiber]

I kept running in circles blocking and surging until the door option was made available

Might of stumbled on a bug there, but at the same time my teammate who was miles behind was still in his bleeding out

[tranquil fiber]

yeah i know what you mean, I'm in a deadlock at the moment.
I've moved from Zealot to Psyker but wanting to move to Ogryn (only because these "bugs" from the last update have killed my enjoyment with Psykers )

so I'm in limbo checking shop

[full leaf]

literally, my psyker feels so bad right now

i love zealot, but too many zealots running around

thinking about ogryn honestly

that revive withouit interruption is agame changer

[ornate hamlet]

If anyone needs help with their psyker, just message me and ill help out.

[tranquil fiber]

I made my Psyker to ideally support.
If I want damage I'll roll with my Zealot of level up a Veteran

not to say Psykers can't deal damage, they do it well its just not something I want to bring to the table with that class.
Surge runs are really fun and smooth when you get it down.

[olive ember]

Tbh I mained psyker and its the only class I really like playing tbh

idk why

[tranquil fiber]

especially when you pug 90% of time

[olive ember]

ogryn just feels slow and clunky, vet is kinda meh for me (I don't particularly like how the powersword plays), and zealot is in the weird position where I don't particularly like any of their melee weapons

also psyker has the funny press F and knock everyone over

[regal basin]

I love the concept behind psyker and it has a lot of potential, but looking at how badly put together the components of the class are really hurts.

[full leaf]

ogryn F even more down 😛

[idle bay]

Ogryn have twin-linked heavy stubber. It's a few seconds of happiness while you holding the trigger.

[olive ember]

too bad its a meme above malice (pre buff atleast)

[regal basin]

Ah but the 1 punch gauntlet is fun incarnate

[idle bay]

There should be an Autocannon for Ogryn for Heresy and Damnation 🙂

[regal basin]

Give the ogryns a bolter, the space marine sized ones and watch the veterans cry

[idle bay]

And for Psyker - Deflector should be an Intrinsic quality of Force Sword, and as Perk it should add Reflect bullets back to enemies effect

[jaunty atlas]

wait ... it's me or with perfect timing and 6C you still need 11s to do 4 brain brurst ?

[regal basin]

its 2 seconds for a burst isnt it?

and faster with 6C

so you do 1 burst and get the kill, immediately use 6C to dump heat then get the remaining bursts asap while the veteran ruins your penance attempt

[jaunty atlas]

wait .. i'll retime

[urban pebble]

Me and a guy have been trying to do the brain burst challenge, but the bots are sabotaging us. Anyone wants to come help out?

[lethal plover]

When is next patch lol

[jaunty atlas]

10s72

[regal basin]

the timing is very tight, and for some of those penances unless you have a team of 4 or deliberately leave your bot to die your going to be sabotaged

[cyan notch]

probs next year lol

[jaunty atlas]

no you're right, it must trigger at the first kill, so 10s

[lethal plover]

Gonna leave psyker crippled until next patch

[jaunty atlas]

i just have to target 5 guys, in the dark, in a massive group, in 10s. without getting griefed. allright ! ty

[versed yoke]

for me (zealot main) psyker is a lot of fun, and actually quite usefull and capable. And with each new force weapon added it will be only better. Class has some what seems like ill designed skills, but this goes for a zealot too. Anyway psyker is cool even in the current state

[grave bobcat]

12s 😄

[regal basin]

dont forget you need multiple stacks already or BB wont actually kill most of them because of no scaling on it

[jaunty atlas]

if the buff drop you cannot cast in 12s

[regal basin]

and a single shot from an ally will end your attempt

[grave bobcat]

I'm pretty sure I've done this penance like 5+ times in my last damnation runs

[jaunty atlas]

no i mean only shotgunners and gunners, i'm not crazy

[regal basin]

eh if your going for the attempt it might be worth having a slabshield ogryn to soak attention/provide cover

and warm up your BB charges on trash first

[versed yoke]

and also I like how discussion is going in psyker discord chat. In veteran chat for example there are only memes and trash talk

[grave bobcat]

People struggling with penances 😛

[regal basin]

well veteran chat has all the fps players

psyker chat has the nerds that wanted to be wizards right

[versed yoke]

true

[idle bay]

Because there is no Tech Adept class in game - otherwise most of the nerds will be there 🙂

[regal basin]

I'm pretty sure if we could play tech adepts half my friend group would jump class insantly

we would just need to find a way to make 1 zealot and several tech adepts work

[idle bay]

Or at least Skitari if not Tech Adept

[versed yoke]

Im nerd and like to play wizards, but even more I like barbarians (to compensate I guess ) so I always look for something combined 😄

[regal basin]

skitari seems like it would be another sharpshooter class

[versed yoke]

Skitary or tech adept would be awesome

[regal basin]

not to say i dont support the idea, skitari are awesome

I just wish our brainburst could be used while holding a force weapon

let it directly benefit from our psychic implements and their peril resistance

[idle bay]

Asking too much. FS - hates "magic classes" you'll se how they remove Staffs from Psykers because they are too op 🙂

And then they'll make it so that Peril Quell will cost us Health or will build up Corruption as well 🙂

[regal basin]

They don't need to remove staffs, just add more guns so we see the existing staffs even less

[versed yoke]

I guess the will eventually transfer all Siena stuffs from v2

[regal basin]

I sure do love my psyker having 470+ lasguns and autoguns, thanks emp

[versed yoke]

yeah entire shop system is stupid

[idle bay]

Yeah.. Staffs are rare guests in store.... very rare guests

[versed yoke]

btw are there viable builds for gun-psyker?

[idle bay]

Pretty much everything you can make it work for you - is viable build

[regal basin]

actually sienna is based around fire magic right? (didn't play a lot of VT) reckon thats why soulblaze is so prevalent in bits of the tree yet toned down to the point of near uselessness unless your running purgatus?

[cyan notch]

tell me about it all garbage gifts

[idle bay]

I have quite a lot of orange guns......

"Gifts"

[cyan notch]

but yes sienna is fire

[versed yoke]

actually none of sienna carriers had that kind of stackable buff which you need to sustain

there were some perks wich benefit from heat level and flaming enemies around you, but noone asked you to waste time on sustaining buff - all bonuses come naturally during fighting

soulblaze is simply badly implemented in my opinion

[regal basin]

Emp sure does love guns, i think its actually a pretty good autogun too

[idle bay]

I did get 380 in basic stats MK V axe though as a gift though....

[regal basin]

biggest issues i have with soulblaze are how the base damage starts uselessly low so you have to apply a lot of charges to notice its effect and how relying on it as a dot is backloading your damage in a game where all other classes frontload damage

the backloading wouldn't be too much of an issue if the ascendant blaze perk required it be soulblaze that does the kill

[idle bay]

That is why i'm playing a build that does not give a kark about buffs and stacks..... 🙂

[regal basin]

so if you set a crowd on fire with a lethal amount of stacks and then an ally unloads into it you get nothing back from it

im also playing a build that ignores them

i dont want to

but i feel i have to

[versed yoke]

what build do you use?

[idle bay]

I'll wait until reasonable changes to the class before i try anything else

[regal basin]

im using 322113 with a chainsword and surge staff personally

[versed yoke]

thanks

[regal basin]

but i wish i could make 122112 work better

but that relies on having soulblaze and warp charges actually function

[idle bay]

MK V axe
Surge staff
Feats: 2 2 1 1 3 1

[wise pecan]

I’m not so sure about this part. Any time there’s a real horde, my ascending blaze build gets 6 stacks near instantly

[regal basin]

ive noticed a big difference in how many stacks i get back from asecendant blaze into a horde when im the only person targeting it and when someone dumps a bolter or flamer on it

[wise pecan]

Course, that’s not much help against 5 regular dudes, but purgatus clearly isn’t intended to be the optimal tool against 5 regular dudes

[tranquil fiber]

are you still using surge staff with the vfx bug?

[wise pecan]

This is fair

[versed yoke]

want to try surge but no luck with the staff, Quicken thought uses soulblaze so maybe you cant ignore them completely

[idle bay]

Yes. I'm immune to that VFX 🙂

[tranquil fiber]

looool

[regal basin]

tbh i love the feel of ascendant blaze but don't like the purge staff so i kind of hope for another style of fire staff down the line

[jaunty atlas]

you see blurry and distorded with stroboscopic effects all the time ?

[tranquil fiber]

lmfao

he's like, "whats changed"

[regal basin]

just play missions in the torrent, it feels more tolerable there due to the green air

[idle bay]

it's other way around - my brain edits out and ignores such effects 🙂

[regal basin]

throneside it was like ripping my eyes out

[tranquil fiber]

ahhh I see so, no protecting your vision cause you can ignore

[jaunty atlas]

wow, nice brain. even when i focus on my mire and not on the mobs after an hour i feel dizzy

[deft fiber]

If i ignore it, it will go away.

[tranquil fiber]

If you get vertigo later in your life you know who to sue 😛

[regal basin]

btw anyone else love having an ogyrn to stand beind/in as a psyker?

[deft fiber]

I love Ogryn being in me so bad...

[regal basin]

i find they make great cover and being able to shoot through them makes them useful emplacements

[versed yoke]

quote from darktide subreddit about psyker class issues: "Psyker players getting no love just like it is in the setting. Perfect game design."

[idle bay]

I need to try Darktide in VR helmet 🙂

[regal basin]

new level 30 perk to willingly give in to the warp and become a demonhost please

[versed yoke]

ofc, it helps very much

[idle bay]

I like quote from official forums about first Fatshark nerf psykers class, then they nerf it's players via VFX bug""

[regal basin]

Still not convinced the current bug with quelling wasn't a deliberate stealth nerf

the dishonestly so far makes it hard to take anything said at face value

and the conditions behind how it works seem weirdly specific to targeting animation cancelling and chaining BB

[idle bay]

i see the future and next patch notes: "We decided that it's not a bug - and will keep it as new class feature (C)"

Also "We tweak that VFX effect to be even more impactful and added more sound effects as well" (C)

[versed yoke]

what bug are you talking about?

[south monolith]

I've been out of the loop, what is the bug with quell?

[idle bay]

After hitting 100% Peril twice in row you have 2 seconds lockdown before you can quell

[regal basin]

if you hit 100% peril twice in a row the 2nd time you cant quell by any means for 2 seconds

[versed yoke]

ouch I thought this is deliberate punishment

[regal basin]

both passive and active quelling dont work

[versed yoke]

if this is a bug than psyker class is even better than I imagined))

[south monolith]

lol, I guess they don't like people living on the peril edge

[regal basin]

they could rework BB in so many ways but no... lets nerf the mechanic that made it somewhat useable

[south monolith]

Is there some sort of reset timer before the second 100% and the lockout?

[regal basin]

after all monstrosities seem immune to soulblaze and surge doesn't hurt monsters so the psyker has to chain spam BB on bosses

unclear, ive only had it trigger sometimes in missions so theres probably a way to avoid it

[idle bay]

Or use AXE 🙂

[regal basin]

but testing in the psykanium its consistent and easy to replicate repeatedly

[south monolith]

I would have to test it

[regal basin]

I use chainsword for anti crowd, that said if you know a better way to clear crowds with a non force weapon do share

[idle bay]

MK V axe with "Momemetum-something" that for some reason give infinite cleave. You chop one head and things go nuts vs horde

Still waiting for Blessings crafting to tweak my god-roll axe with propper blessing

And yes - it's not anti-horde weapon, but wth that Blessing - it is

[regal basin]

yeah i have that same blessing on the chainsword, ill keep an eye for axes with it to try though

[summer prairie]

unless it's bugged it absolutely does not give infinite cleave

[regal basin]

its +200% not infinite but plenty

[wise pecan]

Ignoring enemy hit mass seams to treat it as 0, which would mean infinite cleave

[idle bay]

"Brutal Momentum"

[summer prairie]

weapons have cleave target number and brutal momentum just lets you hit that number regardless of what enemy you are cleaving

except enemies that can't be cleaved at all

[tranquil fiber]

hit mass is always applied the only one that didn't have hit mass applied was the power sword

hit mass determines how much your damage falls off

its more or less how surge staff works how it gets lower damage per target hit

well thats a visual reprehensive

[wise pecan]

Are you suggesting that “ignore enemy hit mass” is an outright lie, then…?

Because that’s what the blessing says it does

[tranquil fiber]

ignore enemy hit mass would mean that you ignore the penalty for that small period

Power Sword just straight up had that going on all the time

so it had no penalty at all

which is why it was considered, probably still is, the best melee weapon in the game

[wise pecan]

Ye but we’re not talking about power sword, we’re talking about antax horizontal swipes

[summer prairie]

hit mass shouldn't have anything to do with damage dropoff

[regal basin]

power sword can still cleave 8-12 enemies according to patch notes so probably still the best weapon

[shut thorn]

10

[wise pecan]

And antax horizontal swipes with brutal momentum don’t seem to stop on anything, regardless of the number of targets hit, which would indicate that they have infinite cleave

[summer prairie]

if your weapon has 8 cleave targets, the mass of the enemy would determine whether you can actually cleave 8, but with brutal momentum you would always cleave 8 unless you hit armor

[shut thorn]

power sword didnt get nerfed lmao

[summer prairie]

if it does not work like that it's broken

[wise pecan]

…or the system doesn’t work like you think it does

[shut thorn]

power sword nerf is like making voidstrike only go through enemies for 400m

[summer prairie]

it wouldn't make sense to have a blessing like that if it did and that's how it works in other tide games

[regal basin]

need myself a force hammer or force greatsword

get that 2 handed cleave going on

[hushed swallow]

guys do you know if crits are bugged on purgatus staff ? i've got crit perks and crit blessings on one, it does crit in the training room but the yellow numbers don't seem any higher than the white numbers

[shut thorn]

I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure crits add another stack of soulblaze

[regal basin]

ive heard it cant crit, and given it uses soulblaze for damage extra crit damage should do nothing on it

[shut thorn]

it can crit

[regal basin]

extra crit chance might be useful though

[wise pecan]

The antax has like, two cleave targets. Unless you have brutal momentum, in which case as far as I can tell it just doesn’t stop

[south monolith]

There is a blessing to add soulblaze stacks on crit, but only on voidstrike and trauma

[tranquil fiber]

Your melee weapon with Cleave properties can only hit a certain amount of Mass before being stopped; With this in mind, Ignore Enemy Hit Mass means your melee weapon will simply have infinite Cleave targets when the action is done.

[wise pecan]

Exactly

[shut thorn]

I am pretty confident that purgatus crits add a new stack

[regal basin]

shame 1 stack of soulblaze on a crit from void or trauma is absolutely useless

2 damage a second... yeah thats gonna change things

[south monolith]

You can get 2 stacks... but still

[regal basin]

thats 4 damage

[idle bay]

i have video of Axe with Brutal Momentum

[plucky perch]

intresting test, a traumas force staff with carpace armour blessing can 4 tap a crusher on damnation

[idle bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdCzOea1tj0&t=278s

[regal basin]

you need 3 or 4 to kill trash

[south monolith]

It would be more for working with talents than just the damage alone. Not that it would still be worth it.

[tranquil fiber]

So early powersword had ignore hit mass before the patch - now its capped to 10-12 before drop off which is still huge.
Evis only has like 4-5

[hushed swallow]

alright thanks, i'll try to look for stacks when i test it again

[plucky perch]

one to kill roamers and pox walkers

4 to kill a mauler with no blessing 3 with

[regal basin]

so ive not had a ton of chances to actually test but monstrosities are immune to soulblaze right?

i found it did nothing to a beast of nurgle

[plucky perch]

i dont think thier imune

i think the tick goes away super fast

[tranquil fiber]

yeah they don't hold on the debuffs that long

[plucky perch]

managed to help burn a beast of nurgle down rather rapidly but noticed the flames faded after like a single second

[tranquil fiber]

soulblaze is a ramp up dot so at 5 stacks it does its max damage

[regal basin]

dissapointing

[plucky perch]

unlike zealots flamer

[tranquil fiber]

so Purge staff neeeds to charge to keep the stacks up

which is annoying cause the Zealot Flamer has a longer cast time than Purge

[regal basin]

pretty sure it stacks to 6 based on my testing in the psycanium

but i could be wrong

[plucky perch]

stacks to 6 i beleive

[tranquil fiber]

yeah its likely 6, correct me if I'm wrong

[regal basin]

anything less than 6 is kinda useless on trash in diff 5

[tranquil fiber]

yeah agreed.

[regal basin]

but 4 is sufficient on diff 3

[plucky perch]

but yes if you can keep a monstrosity in your blaze its worth charging and unloading on them

[grave bobcat]

Wasn't me testing it but yesterday they were seeing max stacks and It was like 10-12 soulblaze

[tranquil fiber]

I think 6 makes sense, as that aligns with the max warp charge stacks.

[plucky perch]

tap firing seems to be entirely useless though

[hushed swallow]

there is a way to know how many stacks are on a target ? or only based on damage ?

[plucky perch]

only based on damage i beleive

[regal basin]

hmm actually it definitely goes over 6

[tranquil fiber]

it would be nice in the meat grinder of just having a dummy that doesn't die.

maybe they can put in a beast of nurgle or plague ogryn somewhere.

[regal basin]

try using E2 in the psycanium to dump stacks on the ragers

[grave bobcat]

Guys in here testing it said 10-12 stacks

Haven't tried myself

[regal basin]

it might go higher in theory based on psycanium

[grave bobcat]

Just what I remember from yesterday

[tranquil fiber]

how does anything live to have 10-12 stacks o.o

[grave bobcat]

You can get it higher using other stuff like the Trait

[regal basin]

thing is by 12 stacks the targets dying near instantly

[tranquil fiber]

Oh I guess Carapace would

[regal basin]

so you cant get another shot off

armoured ogryn is functionally immune to soulblaze btw

[drowsy fog]

Imagine if deflector bounced the bullets back at the shooter

[regal basin]

never been able to do more than 4 damage a tick to them with it

[wise pecan]

Regular fire, too

[plucky perch]

yep

12

for stacks

tested on unyelding flesh reaper

[tranquil fiber]

what was your method to get to 12 stacks?

[regal basin]

fortunately we have a better solution to ogyrn than fire

[plucky perch]

tap firing

to ensure only one stack is applied

[tranquil fiber]

ohhhh

[plucky perch]

and watching the dot increments

[regal basin]

in psycanium kinetic overload is useful if you want to see how insane it can go in jumps of 4

but its not very good in actual play since you want warp battery

even if your running a fire build with ascendant blaze you need the extra charge capacity to push 4s and 5s or your blaze wont kill anything

[plucky perch]

also its a shame the dot doesnt stick on monstrosities as you could just tap fire to keep it refreshed at max stacks

[grave bobcat]

Does it not? (I don't use fire)

[regal basin]

no, it doesn't

[grave bobcat]

Huh, that kinda sucks

[regal basin]

would be nice if we actually had monstrosities in the psycanium

not like we need to know what weapons are effective for us on the most durable enemies in the game

[jaunty atlas]

monstrosities are unyelding no ?

[grave bobcat]

Yeah

[plucky perch]

they are but under slightly difrent rules i beleive

reduced dots more mass ect

[shut thorn]

yet again reminder: you can stunlock daemonhost with purg lmb

lol

[plucky perch]

that sounds delightuflly broken

[idle bay]

lol indeed 🙂

[grave bobcat]

Armor type and mass are separate also 🙂

[regal basin]

if you want to fight demonhosts as a pskyer i suggest grabbing kinetic deflection and any melee weapon other than force sword

[plucky perch]

dont monstrosities also stop mas ignoring blessings and things like thr powersword?

[wise pecan]

I belieeeve armor adds to enemy mass

[grave bobcat]

No idea

[regal basin]

makes you as able to tank it as a slabshield while letting you practice dodging it

[plucky perch]

does force sword have crap block cost?>

[regal basin]

force sword has crap passive quell

[plucky perch]

ooooohhhh

[regal basin]

non force weapons quell about as fast as a staff

[plucky perch]

that explains a lot

[regal basin]

and you have stamina on top of that if your peril caps

[plucky perch]

chainsword here i go

here i come rather

[regal basin]

if you practice dodging side to side you can avoid ever hitting that stam pool and get in the skills to do the same on other classes without the safety net

ive done it twice now, first time the demonhost knocked me off a ledge

second time i didn't get a scratch on me

so... check your surroundings first

[versed yoke]

nice video, man - fun and informative, axes are super cool, I wish 2h sword would be viable to, for now it just underperforming sadly

[tired estuary]

deflector should reflect vet friendly fire back at them

[tranquil fiber]

then it would be called reflector xd

[digital valve]

in that case can i deflect it into the vet?

[regal basin]

deflector could be amazing if you stored up the shots you deflected then fired them all back at once when you stop blocking

like titanfall

[shut thorn]

w / the push combo this wud be cool af

and would make fs a lot more fun

[regal basin]

store both friendly and unfriendly fire

[versed yoke]

or just BB them

[shut thorn]

i really dont enjoy deflector gameplay after the rlly nice roll i got yesterday

[regal basin]

the ultimate shotgun blast

[shut thorn]

combat blade/antax is more fun ngl

[tired estuary]

would love to bb vets except sometimes there's no brain to burst

[tranquil fiber]

Lorewise:

Telekine Dome - Bullets bounce off of thin air and are deflected alarmingly towards friendly forces as the psyker erects a barrier of shimmering psychic energy about himself.

might see this in the game one day

[shut thorn]

new psyker feat: press f to turn into a daemonhost that can attack friendlies

[frail merlin]

How to git gud at Psyker?

[shut thorn]

lvl

?

[frail merlin]

I keep dying and/or then not get enough kills

[regal basin]

get staffs, dont use trama

[frail merlin]

Level 20

[versed yoke]

press f to replace toxic vets with cheerfull ogryns

[idle bay]

Word erect in that description will make veteran and Ogryn chat giggle for days 🙂

[shut thorn]

use void/surg, at lvl 20 your purg rolls are gonna be kinda shit

use antax mk v as melee with peril block

[frail merlin]

Yeah

[shut thorn]

you could use deflector force sword but i highly doubt you have a decent one at such a lvl

[frail merlin]

Gdi I want kills and I am trying my best not to circle

But if I dont then I essentially contribute nothing

[tranquil fiber]

yeah don't play end game builds at level 20

just gonna spell bad times

[regal basin]

new psyker perk that gives you large stat bonuses, but if your downed you turn into a demonhost that must be defeated to res you

[tranquil fiber]

Purg is better at 25 - 30

[shut thorn]

do you have a voidstrike?

[tranquil fiber]

below then its meh

[versed yoke]

I leveled with void staff - nice horde control/damage and versitile

[tranquil fiber]

maybe 25 is generous

[regal basin]

if your looking for up front damage on a staff voidstrike is your go to

[tranquil fiber]

Void is ideal for leveling and surge (if you its not a damage staff)

[regal basin]

surge is CC and anti armour, purge is fire DOT for anti crowd

[tranquil fiber]

as Emma said

[shut thorn]

if you have a voidstrike, here's some tips
both lmb and rmb "post launch" recovery frames can be cancelled by pressing R
LMB should be used for quick snipes against single targets, you can spam rmb no charge to clear hordes

[rose gazelle]

when i first reached level 30 i got bored of staff spamming, then i switched to the recon lasgun and rebuilt my build. don't know if anyone does anything similar but i call it a peril shock trooper

[shut thorn]

aim slightly above heads

w/ void

[shut thorn]

why do you have peril resist on a non staff build

[hoary hamlet]

Is there a warkaround for the contracts not replacing glitch?

[tranquil fiber]

yeah the Recon lasgun as a nice breath of fresh air from 20-30

the gunstaff 😛

[rose gazelle]

this build is centered to use everything to its full potential, including brain bursting. that way you can get a few more brain bursts in

[regal basin]

kinetic flayer would be a lot better if the cooldown wasn't 15s long

[shut thorn]

do you have enough ordo dockets

[rose gazelle]

In this build I use a force sword specifically to spam peril to 100% by quickly activating and pressing Q to swap and repeat to stack it up within ~4 seconds

[hoary hamlet]

by a large margin

[rose gazelle]

I don't actually quench it, but just let it passively cool down

[shut thorn]

did you try switching operators

if you did and it still is busted, report it

[fossil apex]

Every now and then I rework my lvl 30 psyker talents. But my favourite build is a high peril build and it deals an insane amount of damage

[rose gazelle]

but yeah the build is designated on specifically utilizing brain burst spam for heavies, random chance of gaining warp charge through kills, and kinetic flayer since you will be shooting a lot to apply the instant kills, giving you another warp charge. making you take less range damage simply by shooting

[tranquil fiber]

If i remember correctly there is a cap to how many times you can reroll

[random wolf]

3 times

At 7500 you can't for some reason

[shut thorn]

rip I thought it was the bug where the docket number doesn't update in the ui even though it requires more

[rose gazelle]

i'll just post the build here in case anyone wants to try it, i'll format it to give a better description

[shut thorn]

have you tried in t5

im just hesitant abt how clunky bb is

[rose gazelle]

nope! I haven't tried it in damnation

[hoary hamlet]

even if it was an unadvertised cap it's still bugged because sometimes it makes you roll more than 3 times and sometyimes it unlocks randomly and starts rolling again

[shut thorn]

t4?

[rose gazelle]

heresy is the treshhold for me between still having a fun challenge towards sweating lmao

[frail merlin]

I see

[rose gazelle]

yeah I mostly run only heresy if I can help it

[frail merlin]

Still

I will be swapping to Veteran asap

[shut thorn]

T5 is easier than T4 because of penance ppl on T4

Granted I haven't gotten a T5 game in a few days since nobody plays it atm and my friends are done with darktide

[tranquil fiber]

its painfully true

[rose gazelle]

i hate to say it but none of my friends are as into darktide as i am too ;_;

ima write up the build post

[shut thorn]

You just reminded me of yesterday's last malice mat run where a psyker insisted that malice is the easiest way to do going out w a bang

I kept telling him to hop into damnation w bots on torrent

[wise pecan]

In my experience, T4-5 are generally pretty smooth if you can get a full team, because that’s when bots are worthless. T3’s difficulty curve is all over the place, as the smoothbrains have not been filtered out

[frail merlin]

Okay I will try outthis build

[shut thorn]

Dude told me I don't know what I'm talking about, despite the clear fact I've done my penances

Also claimed penances are now harder than ever

Really would like to see people do 100% of dmg to a monstoristy with bb during preorder beta before daemonhost

It wasn't fun

[remote tusk]

The lfg part on this discord has been good to me. Nice people and mostly smooth runs

[drowsy fog]

yeah only met one person in lfg that I wouldnt play with again

[shut thorn]

Vet?

Ogryn?

[drowsy fog]

they were a zealot

[wise pecan]

What do you mean, here? Obv damnation will spawn more elites, but won’t the bots fuck things up (by killing shit they aren’t supposed to, or leading it away from you, or not doing damage to the right enemies)?

[shut thorn]

Damn

I was hoping it wasn't a zealot

[left mirage]

neat

[remote tusk]

Helth

[shut thorn]

Zealots are weird, low level ones are the types of ppl who play fifa unironically and picked up darktide to be a toxic cunt, high lvl ones are generally the most chill ppl

[drowsy fog]

we specifically set up the group to go after penances, they refused to communicate and actively sabotaged the penances

[grizzled iris]

For Malice or lower yes, for Heresy and Damnation it is bad

[remote tusk]

Ew

[shut thorn]

Bots wont do enough dmg to the elites

[left mirage]

oh, is hp not ideal anymore

[frail merlin]

I see, will adapt as such. BB speed could be faster in general ngl

[left mirage]

do people run 2 tough 1 wound? or just 3 tough

[idle bay]

Thats not mine video - i simply shared a link 🙂

[grizzled iris]

In damnation 3 wounds

[left mirage]

damn

[shut thorn]

What

[grave bobcat]

3 tough

[remote tusk]

2 health 1 wound here

[frail merlin]

Staffs need a godamn buff since it wasnt like the Amprex or Gauss Cannon like I expected, and I quite prefer the Recon Lasgun. Do hope that we could use Bolters and/or Plasma one day

[left mirage]

ok, might aim for 2 tough 1 hp

[manic needle]

Chad

[fossil apex]

2 wounds, 24% extra health

[jaunty atlas]

3 wounds !

[shut thorn]

2 health and a buncha resists against gunners, bombers and snipers, 1 wound too ig

[wise pecan]

I personally run one wound, one tough, one health, and attrition is rarely a problem. Either my team’s completely overwhelmed and 15% toughness would not have made the difference, or we’re good

[shut thorn]

resist against gunner for t5 imo is priority

[left mirage]

sounds good, i just dont go down usually unless the rest of the team is fucked

so wounds arent as important

[frail merlin]

I think so

[drowsy fog]

man I dont wanna go to work

[frail merlin]

Shit, no

[left mirage]

the question is just if i go 2 tough 1 hp or 2 hp 1 tough, i think former bc ranged bois always fuck my shit up

[shut thorn]

go to meat grinder and get the hang of quell cancelling

[versed yoke]

in lfg I met only one toxic and he was vet. Zealots are usually quite cheerfull guys

[shut thorn]

basically as soon as the shot leaves the staff, hold R until it 'resets', eventually you'll get timing right

[remote tusk]

A single extra wound for t4/5 is allright. Allows for more mistakes and screwups

I went with plus 70% health for a while

[wise pecan]

Honestly, I think most of it is a peace of mind thing. I basically never go down twice, between medicae, but the “you have less than one wound of health ooooo” desaturation effect is super distracting

[left mirage]

does t5 leave you with only 1 bar? or is it 2 bars like t4? ive just been playing t4s with friends

[remote tusk]

2 bars

[grave bobcat]

2 bars

[drowsy fog]

yeah zealots and ogryns tend to be super chill ive found

[left mirage]

ah, ok

ill try to get a better setup before stepping into t5

[drowsy fog]

vets can uh... they arent invited to my birthday party

[potent echo]

Surge staff seems to be a struggle without another flame type weapon on the team

First time we got overrun by a horde

[shut thorn]

try surge n combat blade, its fun

granted its not meta

[wise pecan]

Yeah, surge definitely needs a team made dedicated to horse clear

[shut thorn]

but it is incredibly fun

[drowsy fog]

horse clear

[potent echo]

Yea the zealot had knife and bolter it was not fun

[manic needle]

Surge staff is a struggle mostly when you have teammates who run off in a million different directions

[remote tusk]

They just shoot all the baloon animals and leave

[potent echo]

The other psyker was using catachan claw and also surge

[bold flint]

i just had a psyker try to do their penance on a daemonhost

[drowsy fog]

I just love running purg and melting hordes

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-sad-sad-cat-cat-meme-gif-25617057

[wise pecan]

You know, wouldn’t want your position to become unstable

[potent echo]

Ikr

[plucky perch]

ha!

just got a force sword with deflector

[remote tusk]

Stop brain bursting us

[manic needle]

Best way to get it.... unless they didnt have a Shield Ogryn.

[shut thorn]

NICE!

Congratz

[drowsy fog]

I got to tank a demon earlier cuz I happened to be leveling ogryn and had just unlocked the shield 🙂

[frail merlin]

Whats a deflector again?

[shut thorn]

stops bullets

[wise pecan]

Block bullets

[frail merlin]

Ooo like the Force Sword's block?

[plucky perch]

stops ranged attacks bullets lazers ect

not nets thoughs

[fossil apex]

That is the way! Honestly it's brilliant

[shut thorn]

if you have teammates familiar w/ psyker they'll be very grateful for your lil shield

[drowsy fog]

I blocked a flamethrower with my fs earlier

[shut thorn]

its honestly a lot of fun to just walk up to like 3 reapers while your team is behind you dealing the dmg

[wise pecan]

Force sword doesn’t have it by default. Like slab shield block, yes

[plucky perch]

should i pair it with the block to peril chance feat?

[versed yoke]

i did bb achivement on beast of nurgle with friends, in group its easy - i found that pick'n'mix and seldexplode ones are more difficult

[shut thorn]

except unlike slab shield, it looks cool

😎

[potent echo]

Definitely

[versed yoke]

struggle to achieve them

[drowsy fog]

previously had to tank a demon on psyker and thanks to peril blocking I instantly got the first 2 tiers of the emperor protects

[potent echo]

And plenty of block efficiency stuff

[frail merlin]

Ooo

[plucky perch]

gonna miss channeling not effecting speed though

[frail merlin]

When do I get one?

[manic needle]

I got Pick n' Mix literally at random, its a very luck based penance

[plucky perch]

though thats what a staff mostly acomplishes

[wise pecan]

Honestly, you should be using that feat anyways

[steep bridge]

going out with a bang can fuck right off tbh

[shut thorn]

lol it took me 300 hours, 100~ of which was mind numbing mat grinding to get mine

[manic needle]

Same with Going Out With a Bang, if I ever decide to do that one (I won't, on principle)

[shut thorn]

[drowsy fog]

not even close took me the longest

[plucky perch]

power 370 so close to the max for its item rarity

[wise pecan]

I managed to get all 3 tiers blocking a daemonhost… on zealot, lol

[bold flint]

they did it in the weirdest spot on a staircase and got blown up by a burster

[versed yoke]

only with friends, it wont be nice to try it in pub

[remote tusk]

I'm just missing pick n mix and probably will forever

[shut thorn]

its a dumb af penance anyw

[manic needle]

It's literally the "We trained him wrong.... as a joke" penance lol

[versed yoke]

im kinda achivment whore and it will pain me to leave something uncompleted even if it is worst achivment ever

[plucky perch]

oooh even rolled with the weak point damage perk, not the best but considering 3 of the 4 hit combo is downard/diagnal slices not bad

[manic needle]

"I AM BLEEDING, MAKING ME THE VICTOR"
-Someone doing Going Out With a Bang

[plucky perch]

LOL

[shut thorn]

Also incase you truly want to do mat grind, get to level 30 first, seriously.
It would've taken me significantly longer to do it without a combat blade w/ 80% mobil and surge staff

[steep bridge]

more like "FUCKING HELL STOP MOVING AROUND SO MUCH SO I CAN HIT ALL THREE OF YOU, WHERE YOU GOING FOR FUCKS SAKE"

[fossil apex]

Tbf going out with a bang us easier on heresy just for sheer amount of specials

[potent echo]

Yea surge and DS/knife everyone is flying

Also I think you get matched with other lvl30s

[shut thorn]

you do

sedition/malice runs at lvl 30 are basically p much

everyone running knife

[potent echo]

So everyone knows what they are doing you can finish runs in 15mins or less

[shut thorn]

to grind mats

[fossil apex]

Tried it with a group of friends, second or third time exploding in a crowd I got it

[shut thorn]

if u have a vet w/ a power sword tho

dodge time ngl

[drowsy fog]

got a group together for bang to herd elites together after aggroing them

[potent echo]

Bang elites

[plucky perch]

time to test this sword out

[drowsy fog]

then I was over to the side building peril while they blocked lol

[shut thorn]

test it out on fatshark's marketing team (real life)

[plucky perch]

@shut thorn much as i hate the fomo tactics im not toxic enough to threaten some one

[potent echo]

I don't think that's the marketing team it's the monetisation team

[shut thorn]

That's not why I'm annoyed with them

[shut thorn]

literally the same thing

[frail merlin]

I see

Typical Fatshark game then

Grind til Rank 30 and then you can play the game

[shut thorn]

also I hope my psyker character's data doesn't corrupt

[versed yoke]

it would be much better if psyker would have exploded on every death, or even could linger after dying as a 'residual force' to plant few bb to help you team. In this case his death could be helpfull

[shut thorn]

I prob have a hundred force swords

[cyan notch]

doubt

[potent echo]

Or you can possess the heretic elites and play l4d versus

[plucky perch]

i just tanked a reaper and gunner for like 10 seconds no problem

[shut thorn]

I've been buying every single force sword every hour I'm online when possible, just hoping for deflector, I have a lot of them now left over with shit blessings

[tranquil fiber]

I don't wanna tank on the lowest health pool character .___.

[static epoch]

you're going to waste a crapton of materials if you wnt to upgrade to get deflector i dont recommend it

cause you will just end up ripping the blessing out anyway

and putting it on a good roll

[shut thorn]

the strat is to go for greens but I was getting desperate and even buying blues

[drowsy fog]

I have nothing better to do with my ordos so I buy every weapon thats 350+ then I compare duplicates and sell the lesser piece

[static epoch]

yeah I did for a while, NOT worth it lol

[shut thorn]

p much, I'm incredibly burnt out now

[tranquil fiber]

It's like Rift Warper Rogue tank on Rift online all over again.
Best tank in the game, when you dodge everything - you die if you don't resist big hits

[shut thorn]

and ill be honest

force sword with deflector sucks

😭

[tranquil fiber]

its nicheee

I think its cool that it exists and its made all these tank psykers

[drowsy fog]

I enjoy slowly approaching riflemen as they realize theres nothing they can do to stop me

[shut thorn]

I've also kinda grown to like combat blade as cursed as that is

[fossil apex]

Yes exactly

[shut thorn]

the extra mobility is really nice

[tranquil fiber]

I don't wanna play it incase Fatshark jump in again and cancel it

[fossil apex]

It's worth not losing a couple hp because bloody rifleman are everywhere

[cyan notch]

except when you get there you cant really attack them and if theres a whole bunch aiming at you youre kinda screwed

[shut thorn]

switching off of combat blade after like a hundred hours of only using it feels clunky af cuz psyker is so slow

[drowsy fog]

nah when you get close enough they're forced to fight melee

[shut thorn]

I'm more survivable by just sliding w/ combat blade

FS deflect is good for reviving

rest

eh

[cyan notch]

well yes but when theres a whole bunch not all of em will stop

[supple skiff]

^^

[cyan notch]

and then when you try to slash them the others start shooting

[drowsy fog]

eh Ive got toughness

and a team

[fossil apex]

Seems like more work though

[shut thorn]

it honestly isn't

[supple skiff]

using fs to close distance on ranged has never felt good to me

[shut thorn]

and it feels more fun to slide while winding up a face stab

[regal basin]

force sword with deflector would be great if force sword had the same passive quell as non force weapons

[supple skiff]

would sooner through out some void orbs and sprint over

[rose gazelle]

Peril Shock Trooper Build
Description: Put up your staff and use your rifle. Become a shock trooper utilizing the Warp to enhance your capabilities.

I: Quietude
Replenish 5% Toughness for each 10% of Peril Quelled

Use your force sword, and absolutely spam your special attack. You should always have over 50% Peril charge to passively heal during a fight. You can quickly spam your special by swapping weapons back and forth, it will reset the special activation.

II: Inner Tranquility
+6% Peril Resistance per Warp Charge.

The reason why I choose this is because you will have almost full warp charges all the time during a fight due to perk 3 and 5. This will be utilized by your force sword and brain burst. During a fight with big enemies you want to spam brain burst after using psykinetic's wraith

III: Psychic Communion
Whenever you or an ally in Coherency kills an enemy, you have 4% chance to gain a warp charge.

You want warp charges for this build as it synergizes the entire build together. The reason why I don't use staff for this build is because if your main attack generates peril (Staves), you will have to spend time quelling manually while the point of this build is to generate toughness while you fight.

IV: Kinetic Shield
Take between 10% and 33% reduced Toughness damage from Ranged attacks based on your current number of Warp Charges.

You will always have warp charges during a fight. It will just help you out long term to take less toughness damage before the melee units engage you.

V: Kinetic Flayer
All Attacks have 10% chance on Hit to Brain Burst the target. This cannot occur while at crtical Peril, and has a cooldown of 15s

The main reason why to use a fast firing weapon (recon lasgun) is because you want to deal out as many attacks as you can quickly to get this to proc. 15s cooldown may seem like a long time, but your charges last 25s before they expire. You will have a small window to shoot 10 times to quickly refresh this perk. Gaining you another warp charge without any manual brain bursting.

VI: Kinetic Barrage
For 10s after using Psykinetic Wrath, your Brain Burst charges 25% faster and consume 50% less Peril.

The most important part about how this build gets you through T4+. You want to use this at the start of your battles against elites. Use Psykinetics Wrath and IMMEDIATELY spam brain bursts on elites. You will dish out so much damage with Kinetic Barrage. Once the 10s are up, switch back to your other weapons and clean up. That should've been enough to take out at least 2-3 Ogryn enemies.

Because you are spamming your brain burst, you just collected +2 warp charges, you killed heavy elites, and you have peril for passive toughness gen. This kit is meant to synergize with every part of the kit.

Playstyle:

• Use Recon Lasgun and Force Sword. You MUST have the force sword to build up peril at your beckon.
• How to spam peril charge? Pull out your force sword then activate it, press Q or your button to swap to another, then swap back and activate it again. You can go from 0% to 100% within 4 seconds if you have it down.
• See a group of elites (or abomination)? Immediately activate your ability and spam brain burst. At the end of Kinetic Barrage you will have Peril, warp charges, and less elites to deal with.
• Stick to your group. Cohesion is necessary to get a chance of gaining a warp charge on your kills, or their kills.
• When a horde is about to spawn, or is spawning, you want to have +50% peril. Immediately force sword spam, or use it to engage in fights however you are focused on single targets while you do this. That way you can slash away without worrying too much about cohesion toughness regen. You make your own regen.

This class is very versatile on how it deals with enemies. You can gun down elites, force sword special strike them down, or brain burst them quickly. Read the battle situation and see how it will help your team

[grave bobcat]

Jeez

[drowsy fog]

ok

[shut thorn]

I like how the FS is a shitty blue

[grave bobcat]

And I was trying to read chat lmfao

[static epoch]

i am using warp nexus on purg with a maxroll antax5 with crit dmg and brittleness

it's great

[rose gazelle]

crazy you have to scroll up damn

sorry to give you work lmao

[runic hornet]

how the fuck do you still have tubes

[drowsy fog]

I like how its a gun psyker

[dense cloud]

emperores gift 😄 lol

[shut thorn]

Don't diss it

Combat blade is gr8

[grave bobcat]

Bleed, bin it

[dense cloud]

i know

but im salty

its on psycher

[drowsy fog]

emperor why you hate niponpink

[dense cloud]

and not my zealot

[grave bobcat]

F

[rose gazelle]

I feel like an actual shock trooper using this build. It's really fun

[tranquil fiber]

I use a similar build but with Surge - only difference is I use Combat Ability reduction since CC is more inline with Surge.

[shut thorn]

there's going to be a "protectorate" (shieldy thing paladin tank) spec for psyker

:)

[dense cloud]

i got 12 % combat ablity it great

[tranquil fiber]

but yeah that build is pretty much imho the base optimal build for psykers with the design the devs intended.

[drowsy fog]

source?

[shut thorn]

I'll dm it

[remote tusk]

Thoughts on what to switch out or refine?

[tranquil fiber]

sadly other than Purge there is no real build variety for us compared to the other classes and its been acknowledged

[fossil apex]

Maybe it's unpopular opinion and all but I love a combat blade on my veteran lol. Once aggrod a demonhost with my grenade and could dodge infinitely with the blade haha

[rose gazelle]

Oh like you use the ability to dispell peril?

[cyan notch]

revive speed and health

[rose gazelle]

Although I list it in the build description, I sometimes do the peril charge spam then use peril for a free "healthkit" to boost my toughness back immediately, then do the brain burst spam

[tranquil fiber]

Yeah having up more often helps me keep up with spamming charged surge strikes.
That and also breathing room by force pushing everyone over.

[rose gazelle]

you can mix up the attack patterns with it, just depends on the situation

[shut thorn]

soon

[tranquil fiber]

If you're happy with it tag a warden to pin it

[pale crescent]

combat blade on vet is nice, but throne save me its not fun to be far from the team in melee

[grave bobcat]

Work PTSD immediately triggered

[rose gazelle]

I'd love to! Do you know any @/names i can ping for that?

[tranquil fiber]

I'm off work so im just gonna not read loooool

[shut thorn]

tl'dr some kind of tank ability

but the mult is kinda shit

10% less dmg like

💤

[drowsy fog]

just gimme a force greatsword

[shut thorn]

and it lasts 8 seconds

[remote tusk]

And force halberd

[pale crescent]

any advice on psyker leveling? im a vet main, how do i cope with not stealing all the ammo grenades?

[shut thorn]

the sacntified insignia's sword is in the game as a skin for real money

it wasnt a gs

:/

[fossil apex]

Yeah still very squishy and actually not a good class to do anything in melee. I just spam my infinite amount of grenades if I'm in trouble

[drowsy fog]

you get used to ignoring all the ammo and grenades cuz you dont need it then when you play another class you go halfway through a map before realizing you need to resupply

[vast oyster]

Happens all the time

Tried to brain burst as an ogryn

[pale crescent]

its very nice for icepicking big boys while a zealot tanks though

[drowsy fog]

is there a precedent for them?

[shut thorn]

There's also a psyker 'biomancer' spec in the files

that seems to buff dmg

[grave bobcat]

Accidentally fires my secondary Looks like I need a whole ammo bag now

[pale crescent]

thats an issue i have on vet, i almost never use my grenades well

[remote tusk]

Mostly as Gray Knight weapons but also mentioned in the old tabletop rpgs

[drowsy fog]

I will play vet last if ever

vet has the lamest cosmetics by far

[shut thorn]

vet is boring

[vast oyster]

Ain't a fan of John Shootman either

[shut thorn]

oh yeah another thing with psyker files

[drowsy fog]

how can I enjoy purging heretics if I dont look good while doing it?

[shut thorn]

Shade form or something

[plucky perch]

huh the blaze bolt primary on all staffs, purgos aside obviously, seems to be treated like a sniper in terms of weak spot and extremely so for critical weakspot damage

[fading shoal]

Re-roll toughness regen speed for something else. Supposedly doesn't work right now, but even if it did other perks are better because teammates don't stay in coherency to make faster toughness regeneration worth it. Also you need to be out of combat yet those moments are far between on Malice+

[drowsy fog]

psyker and zealot have the best cosmetics, you cant fight me cuz im right

[pale crescent]

people play vet to wear ugly matching uniforms with the boys

[fossil apex]

Emperor bless your little veteran soul!

• brain burst is fun, brain burst is a must
• watch out for the peril
• make sure to have your combat ability available to quell the peril
• staff + power sword is a good combo, but which staff is up to you, experiment
• all talents are pretty sick, it depends what you want to be
• psyker is a pretty flexible class tbf

[shut thorn]

interestingly enough, this is zealot's ability with some tweaks

[cyan notch]

power sword huh

[plucky perch]

@fossil apex flexible but squishy to compensate

and on any ficiulty if you have time to cast no mater your weapon selection you can brain burst heavy armour targets

so never with out anti armour

[remote tusk]

John Shootman was the best cop, but got fired from the job because he is a renegade. Now he refuses to be in coherency as part of his lone wolf persona, takes all the ammo and routinely gets taken down by hounds

[drowsy fog]

psykers have 6 options
flamethrower
sith lord
rail gun
disappointment
disappointment with a gun
food for the emperor

[wise pecan]

This is probably the first time that I’ve seen a gunpsyker build that actually takes full advantage of being a psyker instead of just being a bad vet

[fossil apex]

Idl I used to play with 169 hp and I didn't feel squishy 😳 dodge and block and you're fine! Have to be careful of course

[plucky perch]

hey ive gotten good results with an 80% 75% charge rate trauma

@fossil apex forgive i have not as they say the "git gud"

[rose gazelle]

I apologize if pinging is bad, but I wrote this dope build post I thought was worth sharing for a different playstyle for psykers. Was hoping to get it pinned if that's okay. 🙏 @tribal coyote @viral inlet @graceful geyser

[pale crescent]

disappointment with a gun sounds like my type lol

[fossil apex]

I didn't mean it that way. As a psyker you're not on a frontline. So if you position yourself well then you don't get too hurt

[ebon jolt]

Agreed. Played with it on jersey last night and it wasn’t terrible.

[fossil apex]

Obviously the horde comes and then it's up to you

[cyan notch]

what the hells jersey

[rose gazelle]

It feels really good with everything synergizing with each other. If you try it out, I hope you enjoy it!

[fossil apex]

But after veteran psyker is same when it comes to HP

I would deem veteran squishier for sure

[drowsy fog]

squish doesnt matter much when they mulch everything in front of them cuz they're overtuned

[wise pecan]

I don’t care for the “high rof, low damage” weapons in general, so I don’t think I will, but I can def see it being functional as a build

[tranquil fiber]

Gawain is usually the one that pins for us

[drowsy fog]

sounds like a purg hater to me

[tranquil fiber]

or usually doing AT:Wardens is enough

[rose gazelle]

Ahh ok I'll do that next time. Thanks for the heads up

[tranquil fiber]

np

I'd for sure save your post to a copy pasta

[wise pecan]

Purg is the exception, because flamers are delightful and purg is just a Flamer that I don’t have to be stingy with

[tranquil fiber]

then try another day if it doesn't go through

[drowsy fog]

right? imagine needing ammo

[plucky perch]

er

doesnt vet kinda have

200 toughness stock?

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

[plucky perch]

thats a might bit more then psykers 100

[shut thorn]

Also here's confirmation of the spec name

Current psyker in the files is "biomancer"

[plucky perch]

ive played a vet on malice and felt far less squishy

though again i havent quite got the best "git gud"

[glacial abyss]

Healing psyker moment healing psyker moment

[cyan notch]

fix the game first thanks

i dont care about no randomass subclasses

[rose gazelle]

@lament glen Sorry to bother ya, but I wrote up a psyker build I thought people might like to try out. If it's chill can you pin this message?

[wise pecan]

Many, many people do

[plucky perch]

@cyan notch in my opinion one of the thigns needing fixing is the lack of content

[shut thorn]

So it seems 'protectorate' spec switches out brainburst for some kind of damage reduction ability that lasts 8 seconds

[drowsy fog]

yeah kinda weird they released without any alternate subclasses

[tranquil fiber]

Psykers 100 / 150
Zealots 100/200
Ogryns 100/300
Veterans 200/200

[fading shoal]

12 days for the devs to release the rest of the crafting mechanics.

[cyan notch]

150hp yo

we dont have 200

[wise pecan]

100/150 on psyker

[tranquil fiber]

edited

[manic needle]

Finally a Psyker Force Field?

[drowsy fog]

honestly I'd take it, bb is just kinda there

[shut thorn]

wait nah, brainburst stays

it switches out our F

[drowsy fog]

ah

[shut thorn]

so instead o quelling 50%

we get a 8 second 10% dmg reduction

......

[drowsy fog]

I like our F

[shut thorn]

thats kinda shit

[drowsy fog]

thats incredibly shit

[vast oyster]

I take it it scales with charges?

[fading shoal]

oh god

[cyan notch]

almost as if its not released and not final yet

[fading shoal]

if it does

[plucky perch]

considering one of the descriptions i saw it MIGHT be a field that actively blocks ranged

[shut thorn]

Psychic fortress does indicate it has 'charges'

[wise pecan]

I wonder if it’s spaghetti code and actually gives 90% damage reduction

[shut thorn]

no it mulitplies incoming damage by 0.9

[drowsy fog]

that'd be awesome but probably not

[shut thorn]

aka 10% less dmg

[drowsy fog]

fatshark just admit you hate psykers

[cyan notch]

setting yourselves up for disappointment reading into all this and expecting OH THE DATAMINE SAID THIS THEY HATE US

[shut thorn]

actually, its kinda funny

theres more code for psyker

[cyan notch]

see

[plucky perch]

any one know exactly how many seconds our f currently takes to recharge?

[shut thorn]

than any other class

zealot

is literally

a modified psyker

foul bot

[drowsy fog]

anyway I gotta TRY to get some sleep, cya

[tranquil fiber]

Psykers 100 / 150
Zealots 100/200
Ogryns 100/300
Veterans 200/150

There we go.

[wise pecan]

It’s labeled as a 0.9 damage multiplier, but is it actually coded that way? (Serious question, I am not a tech priest)

[shut thorn]

it is

let me get it, hold on

[drowsy fog]

give us tech priest, why do we have 5 character slots and 4 classes

[wise pecan]

Because each subclass is gonna be a separate character of course :)

[drowsy fog]

good lord no

[plucky perch]

@drowsy fog obviously to name one "chuff Mc Funkinstine

[tranquil fiber]

To have 5 Psykers ofc one for every day of the weekday

On weekends we are with the beloveded

[manic needle]

The concept is there, it's just the numbers that need tweaking. 10% is flat out trash.

[shut thorn]

This seems REALLY work in progress so

It's probably going to change

[plucky perch]

i DO hope the data mine is acurate and psykers nxt subclass is a tank suport

[shut thorn]

It is, it's from streamed data

But, everything might be changed

[cyan notch]

i hope its not and everything is wrong

[shut thorn]

Yet again, psykinetic in the files doesn't exist

we are technically biomancer

[cyan notch]

and then ill be laughing

[plucky perch]

i ment acurate in the future. whats data mined and delivered could be 100% difrent

well acurate in theme

[manic needle]

Explains the lightning staff at least

[plucky perch]

not numbers

need much better numbers

[shut thorn]

protectorate has code for some chain lightning stuff

i cba finding it again rn

[wise pecan]

I never trust datamined spoilers on principle, tbh

[shut thorn]

everything can change

i hope protectorate stays, it seems cool

[plucky perch]

@wise pecan dont blame ya

[cyan notch]

you shouldnt

[manic needle]

Often times devs change their plans when early concepts get datamained and leaked.

[shut thorn]

I still think its funny how zealot is just

psyker lite

[ornate hamlet]

Where was all of this gotten from 😮

[cyan notch]

all of this is at best complete speculation

[shut thorn]

the data the game streams to you (aka why it takes so fucking long to load in)

Also krak grenade is in files fully functional

[ornate hamlet]

Didn't know we can access that

[shut thorn]

I have a vid of it too but

[wise pecan]

So often what’s datamined and what’s actually released are nothing alike, whether that be intentional baiting or just as a consequence of the scope/vision changing. Imo, datamining for spoilers is about as reliable as baseless speculation

[shut thorn]

I'm not gonna post it out of consideration for devs

It's prob a WIP

[ornate hamlet]

Feels kinda sketchy doing that lol

[cyan notch]

yes youre just setting yourself up for disappointment basing your expectations on these

[tranquil fiber]

yeah I suspect datamined stuff is against the rules here

[plucky perch]

@wise pecan whats wrong with specualation and disucssion?

[viral inlet]

put it up on gameslantern as it's currently the hub for DT builds
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[rose gazelle]

Thanks! I’ll do that when I get back to my PC

[shut thorn]

10. Do not discuss exploits or cheats openly. If you have a cheat or exploit to report, please send those directly to [woops] or one of the team.

uhoh

[cyan notch]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao gottem

[shut thorn]

I guess posting abt staff stuff here wasn't allowed

[wise pecan]

Oh nothing’s intrinsically bad about those, they’re just not reliably true. That can even be part of the appeal of them

[shut thorn]

I don't see anything abt discussing datamined stuff

[tranquil fiber]

If its to instigate a witch hunt or blame shaming that would be problematic

[shut thorn]

Obviously I'm not going to post videos

[tranquil fiber]

the only way to know for sure is if you are inboxed by a mod to stop

[shut thorn]

Since the few things useable are extremely WIP

[shut thorn]

im talking abt exploits

like quell cancel

[fossil apex]

@rose gazelle I would post your psyker build in the steam community guides!

[ornate hamlet]

Is dashing left, right or back supposed to not use stamina?

[cyan notch]

yes

[wise pecan]

I believe it doesn’t use stamina, but does cancel stamina regen

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah it does

[random wolf]

Yeah it stops stamina regen

[fossil apex]

I think people would love to read that and it's a fun build. Here it would just get lost in the chat

[random wolf]

But that's it.

[viral inlet]

also for future reference just use @ wardens instead of tagging everyone individually, saves you some effort

[rose gazelle]

I’ll give that a shot too, when I get back on my PC. Thanks for the suggestion!

[wise pecan]

So if you block a lot, then use dodge to escape, then get hit again, you’re still outta stamina

[cyan notch]

or if youre spamming pushes

or both

[wise pecan]

Yep yep

[shut thorn]

I wonder if specs release on new years tbh

prob not

[rose gazelle]

Ahh thanks. I think I tried typing up the role but it didn’t show up for me first. I’ll do that next time

[random wolf]

Older Psykers still missing how old Force Sword worked with shoves.

RIP old Force Sword shove

You'll be missed.

[wise pecan]

I prefer the new one tbh

Stamina is much freer than peril

[fossil apex]

No problem! I'm a lazy bum, but your build has inspired me to write my own. Maybe I will do it eventually 😅

[full leaf]

No, they just dropped a patch and holidays are next week. Don't expect anything lmao

[shut thorn]

[sacred lodge]

alright, might as well give the antax a try, what are the best blessings for horde clear?

[shut thorn]

brutal momentum

[wise pecan]

Brutal momentum, followed by Limbsplitter

Take peril blocking, spam shove attack

[shut thorn]

O ye, there's code for 'minions' in the game that veteran uses

but

it might just be the highlight stuff

not sure

[wise pecan]

Interesting. I wonder if that’s the highlight effect

[shut thorn]

im not 100% on it because

theres stat stuff related to said minions dying

it would be cool if it was a bunch of guardsmen tho

[wise pecan]

That could be for things like your F refreshing

[shut thorn]

the game is p well set up for spawning npcs anywhere

[cyan notch]

stupid

[wise pecan]

Though a minion master vet would be hilarious

[cyan notch]

dumbest change from vt2 ever

lets just spawn garbage everywhere

[mild canopy]

I played with the stub revolver every day since surge staff VFX change on malice and i gotta say its a blast of fun

[shut thorn]

I'm talking about the "outside map" pathways

Not the static spawn points

Yknow, the doors and stuff

[mild canopy]

I wanna recommend to all psykers: stub revolver, try it

[cyan notch]

yea the doors that are everywhere

[shut thorn]

I prefer las pistol spam

[fair kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-kimberly-wilkins-interview-gif-3531013

[cyan notch]

i tried revolver takes too many shots to kill elites

[wise pecan]

The doors are fair game imo. You can always just see them and not hole up next to one

[mild canopy]

Takes 2-3 shots per elite!

[shut thorn]

on t5?

[random wolf]

Meanwhile me with my Voidstrike staff.

[mild canopy]

Malice, aint taking that shit to t5 lol

[wise pecan]

Ceiling holes can surprise you, but they’re not that bad

[random wolf]

With the time it takes to reload just Brain burst.

[cyan notch]

yea u can see them and after u clear an area and move forward

suddenly they come from behind you

[shut thorn]

also as for krak grenade

[static epoch]

this one slaps only get use out of a single stack of brittleness though

[shut thorn]

one shots mauler

on t5 rn

[static epoch]

cause of its arelady high armor pen

[shut thorn]

prob will be changed

[wise pecan]

Ye, pay attention to your flanks. That’s not bad. It’s bad if they actually pop in out of nowhere, though

[shut thorn]

static spawn LOS checking was broke on the trainstation assassination one

aka the notorious elevator spawn

[cyan notch]

i already do pay attention to my flanks i know how it works

its just an extremely stupid mechanic

[wise pecan]

Why?

We’re opening doors and such to surprise the enemy, attacking from locations they don’t expect. Why is turnabout not fair play?

[cyan notch]

......

[runic hornet]

enemies should not spawn literally in front of your eyes

in midair

[cyan notch]

LOL

[runic hornet]

like I don't know how this isn't self-evident

[wise pecan]

Yes, this is bad

[runic hornet]

and we're not talking like 50+ meters away

we're talking 2m away

[zinc phoenix]

What does revolver do that void doesn’t do better?

[wise pecan]

I never said anything even roughly implying otherwise

[honest ore]

Anyone up for helping with Going out with a Boom? Ramdom teammates are the biggest threat to doing this.

[zinc phoenix]

Counterpoint: nurgle can do whatever he wants

[cyan notch]

so you enter another area and oh look theres a bunch of gunners and theyre shooting you ok you take the time to shoot them back and suddenly random adds come from behind you and start shooting you from the area you just cleared how is that fun gameplay

[wise pecan]

Enemies just using spawn doors in general, though, to attack from locations you’ve cleared, just means that your team actually has to pay attention to everywhere around them instead of only ever looking forward

[sacred lodge]

also, are there any idealized stat spreads for weapons, or is it really just personal preference/"what is required for the build"

[wise pecan]

By encouraging you to pay attention? By making the area feel hazardous and unsafe?

[zinc phoenix]

69% on every stat is the ideal

[cyan notch]

feels terrible

might as well just speedrun everything then

[zinc phoenix]

69% of the time when I get it’s because I’m checking out the dope scenery

If pox walkers could stop sexually harassing me while I stare at emprah statues it’d be great

[wise pecan]

This isn’t xcom, it’s not a game about slowly, methodically clearing every enemy on the map, safely and gradually pushing forward. It’s a fast paced, run and gun, cooperative horde shooter. You’re supposed to be moving briskly

[zinc phoenix]

🤏

[cyan notch]

🤓

hey man im happy you like enemies spawning 360 around you

but this is a very common complaint

majority of people dislike it cuz it feels terrible

[random wolf]

I mean there's literally an audio cue for melee attacks

Just dodge or block when you hear it.

[wise pecan]

And Darktide is a much more popular game than its predecessors. More people joining always means more people complaining about features that are half the defining point of the series

[cyan notch]

its not about me not being able to dodge it

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s *heavy breathing*

[random wolf]

It's not great but do you wanna whinge or deal with it?

[cyan notch]

i mean im gonna give feedback

arent we all

[zinc phoenix]

Sir this is the internet

We demand whining

[cyan notch]

so surge vfx is bad are you gonna say It's not great but do you wanna whinge or deal with it?

🤡

[random wolf]

Deal with it.

By wearing shades

[tired estuary]

can I whine about getting 2 force swords with deflect but dogshit stats while I wait for crafting to slap that on my actual good one

or surge vfx

[cyan notch]

you can deal with it and give feedback

you dont have to just do one like a single cell organism

[random wolf]

You know that was a set up to a joke about how the deal with it meme has sunglasses right?

[cyan notch]

and look who is laughing mr Shaftronics/Haztion [38020145]

[random wolf]

Chill bro lmao.

[cyan notch]

nobody

so idk man how do u feel about that joke now

[random wolf]

Did he just copy-pasta my entire name?

[wise pecan]

What you’re doing here is practically the same thing as someone hopping on a Soulslike and complaining that it’s hard. Yes, it’s hard. That’s the point. Adapt.

[random wolf]

[vestal finch]

You have been BANNED from #psyker-class for Non-Intellectual Discussion

[tired estuary]

going back to ogryn chan once again

[cyan notch]

i have already adapted

im not saying its hard

[vestal finch]

Goodbye, blunt

[cyan notch]

im saying its an unfun and annoying and stupid mechanic

[vestal finch]

You're supposed to have a bodyguard babysitting you while you're taking potshots at enemy gunners

[wise pecan]

Why? Because you actually have to pay attention to what’s around you? Listen for audio cues? Check your 6?

[cyan notch]

no i can do all those perfectly

it detracts from the gameplay because instead of fighting the big threat of enemies in front of you where they are all shooting you have to constantly stop the combat (the fun part) just to look around and do mundane trash tasks

imagine every 30s in the game a popup appears and you have to close it

is it hard to close it? no

is it stupid and unfun? yes

[vestal rose]

What bothers me is the occasions where you get really strange spawns. I can look around me, estimate how long it'll take for anyone spawning in to reach me from the closest door/corner, then turn back to keep attacking dudes only to get smacked a moment later

[vestal finch]

Skill issue lmao get good or play another game!!!!!1111!!!

[wise pecan]

You hardly have to stop the combat to spend 0.5 seconds flicking your glance behind you

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker is the best class in the game

[wise pecan]

Hell, there’s always going to be downtime in combat anyways, through reloading or quelling

[vestal finch]

You guys quell? I just explode

[pure lion]

Relatedly idk why people here whine so much about BB being useless. BB is great, even on Damnation!

The ability to Turkey-peek out and get a target lock and then immediately get back behind cover is so useful.

The ability to pre-charge it when you hear a explody-boy or a hound or a charger coming and then instantly hit it for 1000 damage is great burst!

The ability to use it to check for hidden snipers by scanning around an area to see if it locks onto anything is super useful at high difficulties!

It’s effectively a CC ability by making the target flail around and stop attacking during half of its channel time, exposing weak points to the rest of your team.

[vestal rose]

stub revolver is the best class in the game, which regrettably makes sharpshooter a better choice

[cyan notch]

hey if youre perfectly fine with it im happy for you mr fish worshipper 92332128312371230

im just saying these are my reasons why i think its stupid

[vestal finch]

Cerebral Lacerations increases damage for any follow up BBs btw

[wise pecan]

Does it? Have you tested? I thought it was non-warp damage only

[vestal finch]

A redditor tested it

[wise pecan]

Huh

Weird

[vestal finch]

They probably fucked it up classic fatshark style

[wise pecan]

I wonder if it’s just a bug and increases all damage, warp or not

[vestal finch]

I hope it stays this way

[pure lion]

Not worth giving up Psychic Communion imo

[dense cloud]

wtf just got a curio of emproes gift and i dont have curilo $ oin any curio wtf

[zinc phoenix]

Pre charge is really fussy. Peeking with BB is great. Sniper pickup is iffy. The cc is 👌 💯 and I use it that way so frequently it’s absurd

[vestal finch]

Oh nooo... my 12% extra damage is harder to keep up

[cyan notch]

yes bb is great people are whining cuz they cant main bb for everything

but ur not meant to

[dense cloud]

i just wish teh lvl 30 bb skil was a pasive

10 sec up time is like noting

and if the is a sharp shooter

the just shoot your bb targets

and waiste ur bb

[delicate stratus]

It's almost like you're meant to use it as a supplement

[cyan notch]

10s is great

u can kill like 2 ogryns on damnation

[delicate stratus]

I really wanna play with these god tier veterans that kill everything solo

I keep hearing about them man

[dense cloud]

wel its not realy fun the skil maks bb feel so good and then you lost eh nice bb makews you feel sad

[wise pecan]

I never get vets that kill everything solo, but vets and I do tend to share the same brain cell regarding what we should kill right now

[toxic lintel]

Wish the time to BB scaled on enemies health

[delicate stratus]

I don't usually have that problem tbh

[dense cloud]

the good vert always killing the ranged targets

[delicate stratus]

Then again I am usually focused on getting awkwardly placed shooters, shit that hides, or just stunlocking bulwarks becaue fuck bulwarks

[dense cloud]

and the using the mk xii or bolter or helbourn

[thorny idol]

I feel like a proper Inquisitorial bad ass now

[pure lion]

They just need to make BB scale somehow, because people get used to it being a one-size-fits-all “I win” button on lower levels and lower difficulties, then get mad when it requires more finesse and practice using later.

[vestal finch]

Good vets are a myth and not something you should rely on

[wise pecan]

Nice

[delicate stratus]

I just... don't target obvious out in the open specials I clean up things and ensure everyone else can do what they want w

[void anvil]

bb is awful at T4, why even bother. youll do more damage with your staff when youre setup at that point unless if youre running the BB cooldown reduction etc final feat

[delicate stratus]

BB is amazing at all tiers man, lol

[void anvil]

not to mention your veteran can just elitus deletus

[thorny idol]

Man I just melee focus my Psyker

[delicate stratus]

I use it on damn runs all the time.

[boreal sun]

we need new grenade equipment slot that can roll with blessings that modify how it works

[delicate stratus]

It'

[toxic lintel]

It can still one pop some enemies tho, great for taking out snipers

[boreal sun]

you cannot tell me that.is.bad.idea

[vestal finch]

My staff is for horde clear.

[boreal sun]

Where borderlands grenades at

[void anvil]

yeah its useful definitely but i dont think that its amazing

[thorny idol]

BB is imo best for snipers and prepping for incoming bursters and hounds