psyker-class

[pure peak]

That was smooth

[fresh reef]

rocketjumped him to his death lol

[pure peak]

Wonder if that works on crushers

Bewm outside the bridge

[fresh reef]

it does, but you have to aim a fair bit more

[formal glade]

That made me want to run a mission with the trauma staff, and im prob gonna regret it leggo

[pure peak]

I'm running just force sword with las pistol now

[fresh reef]

trauma is basically just like the average Halo Infinite match

explosions everywhere, be careful not to kill yourself

[formal glade]

[night marten]

always elevator slide spin

[pure peak]

I really want to make a zealot with bolter tho

But none of the other classes got gud cc

[simple junco]

Just hope you have a purg psyker and you're good to go

[pure peak]

Ew purge

Void better

[olive ember]

lmao

[pure peak]

[next pine]

@pure peak Take it back

[empty granite]

Zealot flamer is good CC. Ogryn can hard lock a horde with chained heavy attacks.

[pure peak]

N0

[olive ember]

Surge Forever, lesser staffs should sit down

[pure peak]

Void demolishes entire hordes solo

[next pine]

@pure peak TAKE IT BACK YOU FOOL

[pure peak]

Blast entire hordes before ogryn touches

[empty granite]

Ogryn then sad.

[formal glade]

You won't have eyes to see that staff given enough time

[simple junco]

I just played with someone that said this exact sentence and threw the match lol

[covert cosmos]

maybe he had a seizure

[pure peak]

Ogryn is obsolete in the face of high dps aoe void

[empty granite]

Anyone use the Devil's Claw swords? Which Mk is your favorite?

[pure peak]

[next pine]

Hey honestly the fact that there's even an argument at least means that they're probably all pretty balanced.

[night marten]

purg4lyfe

[simple junco]

Very true

[pure peak]

Imagine using domething other than force sword

[simple junco]

They all serve a purpose

[pure peak]

Heretic

[olive ember]

🤔 well I don't type in game chat unless I'm hard tilted so probably not me lmao

[empty granite]

Hey now. Trying to keep it fresh and see what playstyles I enjoy

[night marten]

I say "gg", "demon care", and "don't shoot burster near team mates"

[viscid cloak]

sorry,but i like britain simulator with the shanky knife

[next pine]

@pure peak I agree with you on that FC is awesome.

[empty granite]

I have so many FS's and it's fun, but I like trying different things

[pure peak]

UK what's fresh is that warp sword using Blu warp melting faces of heretics

[olive ember]

I say GG and "you guys don't know how to deal with bursters do you" after the third damn burster that gets blown up near me

[simple junco]

"Please take care of the reapers down long"

[night marten]

sometimes I hunt them down so team mates dont have a chance to shoot

[simple junco]

• On my fifth BB

[next pine]

Gotta love the "I'm going to shove it" followed by "teammate blowing it up on top of me".

[olive ember]

CSGO player spotted?

or is that just my csgo brain

idek

too bad I can't aim anymore

[simple junco]

"Fake B, rush A, blind Reapers with surge"

[fringe agate]

also blinds self and team in process

[simple junco]

Enemy SPOtted

[olive ember]

Just like flashbangs

[unkempt juniper]

which is better for gunpsyker

[leaden pier]

made it 1% better

[empty granite]

How do you feel about that cloud radius?

Or am I the only one that thinks it's REALLY stupid to have range and cone of a weapon to be an RNG stat?

[leaden pier]

it's fine

[simple junco]

If a reduced cone equaled to more stacks applied in a smaller radius, it could lead to more interesting staff paths. But nah.

[leaden pier]

compared to my other purge staff with a 76% cloud radius it feels mostly the same

effective range basically went down by 1 point

same with whatever else cloud radius affects

anyone know the amount of mats you gotta spend for rerolls until it's free?

total i mean

[fringe agate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1053284611469357126/image.png

[empty granite]

I think the 1 point is 1m or something. It's worth testing in the meat grinder

[fringe agate]

Here you go kin

[leaden pier]

many thanks

[fringe agate]

Effectively free from 15th onwards since everyone has a billion plasteel

[next pine]

I never have enough plasteel

[fringe agate]

What are you doing kin eating it? diamante is always the limiting factor for me

[hard stratus]

hello fellow spark 'eads is the Surge staff still fucked due to VFX?

[fallen sleet]

play t5, youll be swimming in it

[random wolf]

Getting weapons from white/green to blue.

[next pine]

Just upgrades bro

[random wolf]

Takes almost no Diamantine but eats Plasteel

[leaden pier]

i like running t3-t4 for diamantine

most ive got was 200 something i forget what difficulty tho

[random wolf]

Imma admit when I get real lazy

I go Gun Psyker

[leaden pier]

melee psyker with a revolver is fun

[bold flint]

why is the psyker stamina regen delay so quick

[magic hull]

wtf is that

[normal yacht]

did they turn psyker into epilepsy simulator after the last patch?

the effects are so insanely annoying holy shit

[magic hull]

can someone nice also screenshot the cosmetic update pls 🥺 im not on my pc rn

[bold flint]

yea you cant really use the lightning staff atm

[normal yacht]

actually insane

[bold flint]

#🚨service-updates message

from aqshy

[normal yacht]

oh neat

[bold flint]

its weird how the knife has one of the most anti carapace push attacks in the game

and you can just spam the hell out of it on psyker

[twilit comet]

Any tips for doing Warp Battery penance?

[analog juniper]

play Heresy or malice high intensity and spam BB

[viscid matrix]

play with friends and then solo BB everything for 5 minutes, get max and then only use bb to keep it up

[normal yacht]

use psychic communion and kinetic flayer

[analog juniper]

and have all the warp charge feats

[viscid matrix]

make sure your friends know you are doing it

[normal yacht]

you'll have 4/4 the entire game without much effort

[meager plinth]

go in a hi-intensity mission too

[night marten]

Use barrage so you dont discharge stacks

[meager plinth]

most maps are fine, just remember that elevators are your enemy

[bold flint]

does anyone not use barrage

[meager plinth]

ascending blaze builds

[night marten]

Ab here

[bold flint]

do those exist

[night marten]

Purg4lyfe

121122

[fringe agate]

That's the cost-table for refining perks at Hadron's

[rancid burrow]

Thoughts? I like the purg staves but they're not my primary at all. Kinda just looking for a novelty buy

[night marten]

Its not bad

Missing warp nexus

[abstract frigate]

Someone said find low damage high burn for soulfire builds, so something like this?

[night marten]

But has crit chance perk

[rancid burrow]

the blessing is what im looking for really

the important one

so warp nexus is what i want

[meager plinth]

try an ascending blaze build with surge, it will let kill both armored and unarmored enemies

[night marten]

If its not your main dont bother then

[rancid burrow]

I've got everything else set with psyker

[autumn marten]

every patch I lose more and more motivation to play, as psyker is not buffed.

I am running low on copium, siblings

[rancid burrow]

I truly don't think psyker's bad

[covert cosmos]

they buffed purge staff

[mental rock]

this patch made me bite the bullet and make a zealot

[rancid burrow]

I think it's so flexible that you can percieve it as bad or good

[covert cosmos]

and hopefully the bb thing is fixed soon

[abstract frigate]

Literally I was doing that today after I got my weeklies

[night marten]

Yea, wanted to see how "burn intensity" affected total damage between purge staffd with high and low damage values

[rancid burrow]

With a proper coordinated team a psyker can be the fulcrum

[viscid matrix]

if you can get 80% on damage as well its better, but if you can just get 80 burn and 80 cloud radius it will be usable

[abstract frigate]

Does damage count as soulblaze? Someone was saying the flamethrower itself doesn't count, only people dying of the DoT it applies does for getting stacks

[viscid matrix]

only dying to the dot counts for soulblaze

[autumn marten]

I agree, but I dont think it has nearly as much in the manner as the other classes in being good, Yknow? The things that are fun to do with psyker are left behind because everyone else can do it faster, and the things that psyker is really good at, are not even the things intended for it to be doing, when it comes to class layout

at least, it feels that way

[night marten]

Kath if you can do video, capture one full secondary of hitting a bulwark in the back

[rancid burrow]

@abstract frigatei think the charges come from the perks that give charges from other ways. you soften waves up and the 4$ chance procs. Or the 10% head pop

[magic hull]

can someone screenshot for me the new psyker cosmetic

[autumn marten]

granted, we're great at picking off snipers and bombers, but everyone else can do it just as quick if someone pings them

[viscid matrix]

psyker is just not what we were promised, we were promised a high damage high risk class, or huge power with a price

what we got was mid

[fresh reef]

worst shop refresh I've had in a while

[abstract frigate]

Does damage effect how much damage the DoT does, or just burn stat does that?

[viscid matrix]

burn is the dot

[abstract frigate]

Just don't wanna make the wrong kind of staff, since the soulfire stuff needs soulfire to work.

[magic hull]

gloriana looks good the other one is dissapointing

[night marten]

Burn affects max dots and their application rate, not damage

[fresh reef]

soulblaze stacks have static damage values

[autumn marten]

yeah I kinda had the same thought. Though I like the chestpiece on the bundle, its.... In the bundle

[viscid matrix]

go to the staff, inspect it and then mouse over the stats

[rancid burrow]

"but everyone else can do it just as quick"
I think you're selling a skilled psyker short a tad but thats fine. That's just one thing though, psyker can be a tank for reviving, a heavy enemy one shotter with the force sword, a split second stunner with the lightning staff. All at once

I absolutely get you though

[covert cosmos]

i still get a ton of use out of bb in damnation

[fresh reef]

I think you can boost individual stack dot damage with m2 crits, but don't quote me on that

[low tulip]

hello guys.... I know I'm asking again since nobody answered me earlier... but is this staff worth upgrading?

[night marten]

No

[viscid matrix]

yes, but that is not a High damage elite killer

[rancid burrow]

Nah the cloud's too small

[fresh reef]

28% radius oof

[empty granite]

Are the generally good perks for Force Sword the +damage to elites and carapace/unyielding?

[low tulip]

yeah, but the rest of the stat seems so good...

[rancid burrow]

A heavy attack from my force sword to the head of most heavies will kill

@empty granitemine runs the 20 carapace

[night marten]

Doesnt matter if youre range is too shitty to reach things

[abstract frigate]

Basically I was going for this cause it sounded fun, so was trying to figure out exactly what was soulblaze on the staff before actually buying a bunch. Hence all the questions since someone yesterday said if you kill enemies with the flamethrower itself it's not soulblaze kills, only the dot caused by the actual attack was soulblaze.

[night marten]

Stupid pho e

[rancid burrow]

but thats the hard lock. the swappable perk is 20% block efficiency bc force sword

[viscid matrix]

elite and carapace plus deflector on forcesword

[rancid burrow]

Yep like I said its that which causes them

[empty granite]

I wasn't worried about blessings, but building a perk for Deflector seems a decent choice

[rancid burrow]

That and the perk Psychic Communion

Dude deflector is SO GOOD

I can revive someone in the middle of a hoard

[empty granite]

It can be a bit of a crutch, but yeah it's good

[low tulip]

oh, cloud radius actually affects range? I just thought it meant how wide the flame goes

[rancid burrow]

It makes psyker viable as a tank

[night marten]

Push v

[rancid burrow]

Thus giving it another niche to fill

[empty granite]

It's both the max range AND the cone from the staff

[glacial abyss]

Yes this is why psyker is the solo chatty machine

[rancid burrow]

And then the res Psykinetics Wrath for leaning into that

[glacial abyss]

Psyker literally the goat

[low tulip]

ty for explaining

[empty granite]

I mean, not really. Psyker isn't built to BE a tank

[glacial abyss]

you can stop specials and destroy them easy

[rancid burrow]

Ofc not

But its surprisingly effective

[glacial abyss]

Matt the only one speaking facts!

[rancid burrow]

Force sword with deflector

[pure peak]

Let's be real

Psyker is the only one skilled

Every other class is point and click

[unkempt mirage]

how is the wrack and ruin feat?

[pure peak]

[empty granite]

Good bait.

[glacial abyss]

psyker = baller

[frank hazel]

I'm good at tanking the floor if that helps

[solid lake]

So close to being good

[viscid matrix]

the fact that psyker is a cc bot/tank is the reason a lot of us are unhappy with where psyker is

[pure peak]

Ay I wanna put out void staff is best

Rest is trasg

Trash

[glacial abyss]

play veteran

[pure peak]

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-blade-wesley-snipes-what-the-f-blade-wtf-gif-22565829

[viscid matrix]

go fuck yourself

[rancid burrow]

Every other class can b.* They aren't best like that though

[autumn marten]

again, I agree, but im gonna advocate a little further on my side. I still love playing psyker, and dont intend to stop.
psyker isnt meant to be a revive bot, or a tank. that's more ogryn role
force sword is quite good, but in a general sense, I think the power sword just has more capability overall, without holding you in place for 2 seconds at melee range
and surge staff is strong, but I just dont thing CC bot was the intention of what psyker was supposed to be. In the end, relying on surge staff, you still need others to help with the killing itself on the high difficulties.
and no ammo is a cool thing i guess, but if I have to worry about dying if I dont manage my respective resource, and the ammo requiring items do so much more than I can, I think i'd rather have the ammo for increased effect I know this one is a little blasphemous, but I'm a bit jaded is all

[pure peak]

Psyker carries every game

[fresh reef]

I like having the best cc in the game, thank you very much

[pure peak]

[glacial abyss]

Psyker = carry

[viscid matrix]

sure CC is great but we are supposed to be a squishy damage dealer, not a squishy ccbot

[glacial abyss]

psyker is what it is now: class for the best players and the worst players

[empty granite]

There's a lot to unpack here, but suffice to say that the Psyker is good at most things, but isn't the best at any specific thing. Jack of all trades, master of none.

[autumn marten]

no problem with that, I think its awesome you can as psyker, its just not what I was advertised, yknow?

[fresh reef]

understandable

[glacial abyss]

who cares what’s advertised psyker is whatever it is right now

[empty granite]

THANK YOU

[glacial abyss]

that’s what makes the psyker psyker

who gives a fuck about “oh it’s supposed to be this” play veteran

https://tenor.com/view/blade-gif-18477867

[solid lake]

Psyker is the swiss army knife of the team. You cant do anyone elses job as well as them, but you can pretty much switch between them all at any point to fill in the hole. You're very much the "what needs to be done right now" class

[autumn marten]

I care because its why I chose psyker to start. And why I fell in love with it on early difficulty. All they'd have to do is scale BB properly

[pure peak]

Psyker is every class and moar

[empty granite]

There are obviously things that will be tuned or reworked in the coming months, but our general kit won't change much, so deal with it as-is or play another class.

[rancid burrow]

Preface, absolutely reasonable but it also plays into my point
"psyker isnt meant to be a revive bot, or a tank. that's more ogryn role" "the power sword just has more capability overall" "surge staff is strong, but I just dont thing CC bot was the intention of what psyker was supposed to be" imo this last one is wrong. There is a perk that literally replaces stamina loss with peril for blocking

[glacial abyss]

literally!!!!!

[cyan notch]

bb is still good imo

[glacial abyss]

everyone keeps asking for some huge ass change just play psyker or go do crack!!!!

[cyan notch]

doesnt need much of a change

[glacial abyss]

Ong

people simply don’t get it

[rancid burrow]

A rando psyker isnt ideal 100% of the time, absolutely. Having a psyker pre-planned in your squad is a great thing

[pure peak]

Psyker holds line. Cc. Boss killer. Elite killer.

[viscid matrix]

the biggest problem with this is Brainburst got nerfed between closed and open beta because it was "too powerful" but it was before bolter and plasma were available

[glacial abyss]

asking for so many changes to make it “your class” or “what’s intended”

[pure peak]

[autumn marten]

I think it needs more power to handle more than killing the lowest health elites over 3 seconds

[glacial abyss]

psyker is what it is now

[rancid burrow]

I think people just haven't found out the way to make it their class yet

[glacial abyss]

yes most people should be playing veteran

[rancid burrow]

There's surely perks and blessings to come (and other psyker classes)

[empty granite]

BB will be touched on eventually because everyone is crying about it, but it's not going to one shot Crushers ever, probably.

[fresh reef]

just give the right click some functionality and BB will be golden
Give a balance pass over the feats (looking at you, Wrack and Ruin) and psyker as a class will be golden

[rancid burrow]

I actually really want a gun focused ability

[glacial abyss]

yes everyone’s a little baby over brain burst

[night marten]

And no one was playing above malice. Everyone saw 1 shots in easy mode

[rancid burrow]

Brain burst is for one thing, keeping the stack

That's the primary use

[fresh reef]

lol

[solid lake]

The right click is still good for intercepting stuff thats coming in out of LOS

[rancid burrow]

Secondary is poping

[cyan notch]

no?

[leaden pier]

i think bb should 1 shot at least poxbursters or hounds on any difficulty

[rancid burrow]

@leaden pieragreed

[cyan notch]

why do u need your 12% damage that much

[empty granite]

Also, people are forgetting that BB is the GRENADE button for us. It's not MEANT to be a primary use tool.

[fresh reef]

this is true, esp if you need to maintain charges for whatever reason

[pure peak]

I don't use brain burst

[covert cosmos]

poxbursters have 1800 hp

[autumn marten]

Once again, still love psyker and only play it, I just think it could use a little love in the numbers department. Jack of all trades is only good when everyone on the team is one, or you have specialists to fill the roles lacking, yknow? Psyker struggles in self sufficiency (comparatively), is my complaint

[pure peak]

Takes too long

[leaden pier]

mebe at least 2 shot hounds if not 1 shot

[covert cosmos]

err sorry

[kindred edge]

I want a gun-focused subclass, but not for the psykinetic to become one.

[covert cosmos]

hounds have 1800 hp

[fresh reef]

still wish it wouldn't go all the way up to 100% peril though lol

[covert cosmos]

i dont think bb is ever one shotting them

[pure peak]

Warp force sword hounds

[fresh reef]

and imo, it shouldn't because psyker absolutely shits on hounds

[spice oar]

I just want more weapons

where tf is my force greatsword

having like 6 unique weapons rlly aint much

[autumn marten]

alright to be fair, if I get force greatsword, I dont give a damn about any of the issues ive been putting forth

[fresh reef]

exhibit A of Hounds getting shat on

[spice oar]

exactly my point

[pure peak]

^ funny af

[fresh reef]

Exhibit B

[night marten]

Honestly dont think greatsword would add anything use to our kit FS doesnt already have, other than being cool

[spice oar]

.....unless it does?

[fresh reef]

force sword with cleave damage, woo yeah baby

[spice oar]

they can do anything with it

[pure peak]

More damage but slower

[spice oar]

and give us a 2handed option

[pure peak]

50% more damage but slower and more stamina use

[autumn marten]

and cleave

[spice oar]

the special should be a long charge up cleave projectile

[empty granite]

I do like to muse and think about what new weapons they might bring to the Psyker:
Two Handed Force Sword example:
Horde clear and slicing unarmored/infested/headshots
Empowered heavy is sweeping slice that does an extended psychic blade that cleaves further out
Empowered state only lasts for a single swing Heavy or Light.
Force block same as force sword? - Empowered push attack does similar cleave to heavy

[spice oar]

like a warp slash

[autumn marten]

thats just voidstrike

[spice oar]

yeah but cooler

[autumn marten]

fair

horizontal spread instead of straight line pierce

[spice oar]

yeah

[pure peak]

Haliberd force weapon

[drowsy fog]

I'm sure we'll get a 5th class at some point. VT had 5, we have 5 character slots but only 4 classes. Give us tech priest

[pure peak]

Plz

[spice oar]

or how about a attack where we throw the weapon

[pure peak]

N0 it's astartes

[fresh reef]

special should be a 500 damage infinite cleave horizontal swipe that costs 50 peril
||it shouldn't but imagine||

[pure peak]

[spice oar]

or like do a warp spin

[echo bloom]

just want the stagger back while bb builds charge. Even if I'm not doing the damage or get the killing blow, keeping a single mob locked down is a fair trade

[autumn marten]

just saying that I thought I saw a psyker with a spear as one of the statues in throneside

[drowsy fog]

Lol good luck with hoping we get a marine

[spice oar]

spear pls handmaiden mains rejoice

[pure peak]

Heretic redeeming marine

[drowsy fog]

I very much doubt it

[pure peak]

Can they just sell us cash shop space marine armor already

And siorotas armor

[bold flint]

no

[drowsy fog]

We'll get good looking vet cosmetics before then

[pure peak]

N0

No one likes pathetic Hooman guardmen

[drowsy fog]

That was the joke

[pure peak]

All they do is die

[drowsy fog]

Everyone dies, even the emperor died once

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-igotbetter-gif-5528939

[pure peak]

My boy sanguinious will be revived

[rancid burrow]

Has the heresy novel come out that directly goes over horus v sanguinious?

[drowsy fog]

Who's this Horus guy? Cool name

[rancid burrow]

@kindred edge@autumn marten Same answer goes for both really, i cant argue against any of that. to me whats appealing isnt to some others

[pure peak]

N0

I would have read it by now

[rancid burrow]

@drowsy fogwait wait you dont know the lore in darktide?

before you take even a dip you need to be warned, its awful

[pure peak]

Sanguinuis is my father

[drowsy fog]

Nah I don't really like 40k I'm just here for the tide

[pure peak]

[runic hatch]

is there a "best" perk for force staff? I was kinda thinking Attack Speed or Crit Chance?

[rancid burrow]

Okay im gonna spoil tag it but its just a theory i like
||he falls to the black rage, beats horus and mortally wounds the emperor||

I don't think a best perk

[pure peak]

Heresy

[rancid burrow]

Depends on the staff, for my surge i like +20% damage against unarmed enemies

That's my locked perk

[pure peak]

I almost bought and wasted my money on vermintife

[rancid burrow]

And rn my rollable one is +5% crit

[pure peak]

Same game my azz

[rancid burrow]

imagine darktide like vermintide

But if vermintide has nothing in it

Thats currently darktide

[drowsy fog]

Tell fatshark to get licensing for a lord of the rings tide game that'd be sick

[pure peak]

Vermintide isn't 40k what I heard

[rancid burrow]

They are not connected

But they are the same "multiverse"

[drowsy fog]

No vermintide is not 40k and that's an improvement

[rancid burrow]

Vermintide is in the fantasy setting, darktide is in the 40k

they're unrelated in lore (though there was an old link)

[drowsy fog]

I think there's modules to play aos and 40k armies on the same tabletop

[pure peak]

N0

[rancid burrow]

oh sorry if you didnt see my answer, i think it depends on the specific staff

[pure peak]

I only here cuz 40i

40k

[drowsy fog]

I wanna see a lil skink priest drop a meteor on a hive tyrant

[runic hatch]

yeah that makes sense

I probably shouldn't worry about it until I get to level 30 anyway and then start grinding for "best"

[pure peak]

Hard to drive and discord

[rancid burrow]

My surge staff does +20% to unarmored enemies because they're kinda "in the net"

and 5% extra crit

There is an invisible progression system

[plucky perch]

my fellow sparky heads i entreat, what must i do to git gud for heresy difuclty, cause jus the other day i was running malice and even a few heresyt no prolbem but today ive lost like 7/8 herest missions

[wheat wren]

How so

[wheat wren]

Positioning is important.

[rancid burrow]

You gotta go from lower to higher power weapons

they stagnate

[wheat wren]

Also pay attention to sound queues

[plucky perch]

@wheat wren know about sound ques but i actualy never figured out where to stand

[rancid burrow]

Are you level 30?

[wheat wren]

Stay behind your group but still close and behind cover

[meager plinth]

priorities clearing your immediate surroundings before engaging with enemies further away from you

[night marten]

Think its just level based, thats it

[rancid burrow]

Mash the hell out of your middle mouse button

[meager plinth]

except for elite gunners and snipers

[night marten]

No watermarking

[rancid burrow]

Personally i disagree but i dont have the raw data

only what ive noticed

[plucky perch]

@wheat wren is pksyker expected to be the sole one peaking over to the rear? or should i trust allies to do that to?

@night marten its level and purchase base

purchasing a higher power item places higher power ites in the shop

witch only become avalable as you level

[rancid burrow]

^^^

[plucky perch]

to an extent

the numbers cap

[rancid burrow]

thats exactly what i was trying to say i couldnt find the words

[plucky perch]

np!

i figured that out with experimentation

one big flaw im working on is panicing when im surounded

[rancid burrow]

lol i "experimented" away like 1000 plasteel today

[night marten]

Idk, I got the best items I have right after hitting 30

[rancid burrow]

What melee weapon are you using?

@night martenwhats your highest power item

[night marten]

380?

[rancid burrow]

mine is 500

I never upgraded it

[night marten]

No.. base stats, all that matters on a grey item

[rancid burrow]

Oh for grey

okay nevermind that lol, but still yeah its true

[meager plinth]

untill they finally let us reach 100%

[night marten]

For anything, or are you saying only perks and blessing are affected by some kindnof watermarking

[rancid burrow]

Your potential item power increases as the random items you buy/drop increase inpower

[plucky perch]

no those i think are effect by total weapon power but mainly rng

[glass thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knua8qZGPeA

void strike with melee immune just like broken

[rancid burrow]

The total weapon power is the total stat buffs allowed to be spread

And the perk levels

[night marten]

i havent seen better weapons than what im using in weeks

[rancid burrow]

@glass thistleits only that one sword that you can do it with

[glass thistle]

i am still using white gears, and still work

[rancid burrow]

To that extreme

[glass thistle]

you can use knife too

[cyan notch]

skill issue tbh camp the shop harder 24 hourws

[night marten]

Wrt watermarking

[rancid burrow]

Every time you go to the shop just buy the highest power weapon you can get

[night marten]

Fucking true

[unkempt mirage]

whats with this

[meager plinth]

whats with what

[unkempt mirage]

Mind over Matter and Mind Over Matter

[cyan notch]

yea its stupid

[meager plinth]

O vs o

[cyan notch]

they shoulda just called em different things

[night marten]

I wouldnt eecommend that to new players, bit would love to see docs somewhere showing that formula or other proof

[unkempt mirage]

couldn't think of some other name

[meager plinth]

its immensely complex to come up with names

[cyan notch]

what if its worse than what i have

[meager plinth]

this isnt CoD after all

[unkempt mirage]

like zap to the Extreme or somthing

[rancid burrow]

How about this?

These are the cheapest weapons I can buy, how do they stack to yours

[cyan notch]

i dont see a difference

all garbage

[glass thistle]

https://youtu.be/xR7Sem0Dbrs its cod

[rancid burrow]

Mine are still higher

It's marginal of course but there is one

[meager plinth]

thats rng

[rancid burrow]

Thats the thing its a sample size of one saying that

[runic hornet]

lol

[glass thistle]

good thing i only use white item 😛

[rancid burrow]

im 99% positive its true but i cant say for sure

[cyan notch]

wdym mine are still higher

[crisp yacht]

worf or no?

[glass thistle]

for pskyer ?

no

[rancid burrow]

Each of those green weapons have higher power levels

[glass thistle]

MK2 is like the worst too

[lament fractal]

Psyker has 2 different minds

[rancid burrow]

That's not saying they're better weapons, its about the specific number

[cyan notch]

my guy u asked for cheapest then you scrolled up more

[meager plinth]

blood, take a pic of your top greens

[rancid burrow]

Yeah to compare the items of the same rarity

Oh that is the top

[cyan notch]

right and i can cherry pick too

[meager plinth]

damn, its about the same too

[rancid burrow]

well i didnt cherry pick

i actually proved myself wrong if anything and you right

[cyan notch]

well yea cuz shop is rng and bullshit

[rancid burrow]

im not saying youre gonna get 400 power whites

But i never saw a 400 power blue when i was level 30 without more powerful gear

[cyan notch]

u cant get 400 whites

but i got a 370 white when i just got to level 30

[meager plinth]

blame it on rng again

[rancid burrow]

This cant really have a conclusion

[meager plinth]

doesnt really need one

[drowsy fog]

Just give me a 400 purge and fs and I'll never check the shop again

[cyan notch]

hedge said this anyway

so its mostly level and some small stuff but mostly rng

[remote tusk]

Any thougts on the different marks of dueling swords? Anyone more worth checking out than others?

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/0a5fTDP6lXTA found on a las in milkans stash

[drowsy fog]

I remember someone saying 2 are single target and 1 is horde

[supple skiff]

seems pretty fucking good

[orchid nacelle]

psyker got the beanz

[supple skiff]

finally got a void with quel buts its tier 1

[drowsy fog]

The beans!?

https://tenor.com/view/4d3d3d3engaged-toe-beans-kitten-cute-kitten-cute-animals-gif-13574481

[long wharf]

don't worry, in two months, when FatDevs finally implement blessing swapping, you'll be able to upgrade that

[glass thistle]

duel sword is for bob up mobs only, dont need stat

[viscid matrix]

low tier with good stats is better than a high tier with bad stats, cause you can just upgrade it

[glass thistle]

void strike just so addictive , its like plasma gun, but free ammo

[spice oar]

side note love the beloved being the emperor

[empty granite]

This is a bit of a soap box, but let me know your thoughts.
Perk Re-Roll (refine) system rework:
Option 1) Let players re-roll the second perk, but don't reduce the costs of the refine (material sink)
Option 2) Allow both perks to be re-rolled, but only reduce either to a minimum of half or quarter of initial (still sink)
Option 3) Be nice to the players and both perks can be re-rolled with reductions down to free.
Sidenote: Let us select the perk we want after re-rolling becomes free (this is a common player request)

[spice oar]

thought it was some daemon at first

[hollow wadi]

Yeah I tried to go Surge staff, but after using a Voidstrike staff, I just can't do it.

[wheat wren]

option 4: Port over vt2 crafting system

[spice oar]

3

[cyan notch]

3 obviously

[spice oar]

actually i like option 4 more

[cyan notch]

they want people to experiment but impose such lame restrictions

on top of the fact that we cant even craft weapons

we have to camp the shop

thats already incentive enough for them to let you pick what you want cuz when you get it is so rare

[empty granite]

I understand they want experimentation, but it feels like they don't want us to have the weapon we want because it'll mean we won't check the shop anymore

[cyan notch]

the stats arent fixed though

even if u have a 380 roll the stats can vary

[empty granite]

They should be rewarding players that play the game by giving them options to craft/hone their perfect weapon

[cyan notch]

= reason to still check shop

[empty granite]

Sure, but I'll settle for something in the ballpark of a near perfect roll

[glass thistle]

use only white item, problem solve

[orchid nacelle]

when i think of 40k i think of all the space marines gathered around hourly reset slot machines hoping to finally get the bolter they want to use on their next missoin

[glass thistle]

mostly only use white gears like me

already over kill with those

[spice oar]

why not upgrade them?

[midnight violet]

why?

[glass thistle]

no luck with the RNG

[spice oar]

so....you decided to not try at all?

[glass thistle]

no mats

[empty granite]

Spent them all upgrading his curios

[spice oar]

ah allright,side not my zealot is also called queen

[glass thistle]

gorequeen is someone unique to khorne

if you know the story 😛

[spice oar]

nah

they both slay anyways

[glass thistle]

and my pskyer is fateweaver ORZ

Kairos Fateweaver, also known simply as Fateweaver and the Oracle of Tzeentch, is a two-headed Lord of Change, a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch.

[empty granite]

That's some goddam HERESY!

[glass thistle]

i come because I hate nurgle

the great games between tzeentch and nurgle, forever

[worthy mica]

anyone got any clue on how to deal with backend error?

[glass thistle]

use surge on your harddisk

[pure peak]

[empty granite]

Who uses harddisks anymore? SSDs are the fuuuuuutuuurrreeee

[worthy mica]

bath with big T

🤝

[glass thistle]

ops i miss read the past

[worthy mica]

smiling atm

uknow who

wink

[ebon wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/skNBQY5.png is this a good weapon to get at melk's?

[empty granite]

Wait til you hit level 30 before buying Melk gear

[ebon wigeon]

i am level 30 😦

[empty granite]

Ah, well that weapon has really low stats, so I wouldn't buy it.

The number 295 is the number you should look at when buying a weapon.

[ebon wigeon]

wouldn't consecration boost its stats?

[empty granite]

It does not

[ebon wigeon]

oh

[empty granite]

It only gives you a perk or a blessing.

So when you see a weapon with 350+ in the modifiers section (where the 295 is on that weapon) THEN buy it

[ebon wigeon]

ah

so something like this https://i.imgur.com/wrLNnRG.png

[empty granite]

Yes

That's a good weapon

[ebon wigeon]

is it actually worth buying?

idk which type of lasgun that one is

i know they range from widely inaccurate but stronk to super accurate but weak

[empty granite]

For a Psyker, maybe not unless you want to use guns often.

[ebon wigeon]

i dont like staves

[empty granite]

Forgive me for asking, but then why are you playing Psyker?

[ebon wigeon]

because big head go boom

[pure peak]

i sometims don't use staves

as a psyker

[ebon wigeon]

also holding out for subclasses

[empty granite]

Ok. Fair enough.

[pure peak]

just go straight force sword build

[empty granite]

Also, for the stats, the ranges of good to bad are pretty large.

[pure peak]

with a lasgun pistol for range

[ebon wigeon]

i dont like force swords either

[fair dew]

FAV STYLE

[pure peak]

heresy

[empty granite]

A 50% to a 70% might not be very impactful in practice.

[valid marsh]

Worth?

[pure peak]

tbh i havent even used those swords b4

what do they even do

[empty granite]

If you can dodge well then yeah

[empty granite]

They are very fast to dodge and sprint

[ebon wigeon]

lots of forward thrusts with an occasional crowd swipe

[hot yew]

best perks for FS?

[pure peak]

See thats what confuuuses me

Staves can do the CC and the FS is for Single targets

y have those CC swords when you have the stave

[empty granite]

Because not every staff is CC

[sacred lodge]

voidstrike comes to mind

[pure peak]

Void? Zombies coming at you all over? Fire at th efloor under you repeatedly they all dead

[pure peak]

void is cc.

[empty granite]

Are you wanting to be defensive or offensive?

[empty granite]

Void is not primarily CC

[pure peak]

Not primarly, but in a horde it blows entire holes into it.

[empty granite]

Yes

[pure peak]

Fire 3 of those in rapid succession any horde is dead

[empty granite]

In a corridor, yes. Not really in open fields.

[pure peak]

Mutant bursting through? FS Warp into the face

[pure peak]

Thats where team comes in

[hot yew]

eh, its a FS with deflector. choose it for cc not dmg.

so id hope for 10% block? but what about the other one? unarmoured? i cant decide which perk i should roll

[cyan notch]

reroll specialist

[pure peak]

for anti armor

[hot yew]

ye i think you right.. need the horde clear dmg

[pure peak]

[hot yew]

are you saying roll flak?

[pure peak]

Ehhh

nvm

nah

[empty granite]

Reroll the poxwalkers to Elite

[pure peak]

^^ I'd say that

[hot yew]

you think specialist is good?

[empty granite]

It's better on FS than poxwalkers, lol

[hot yew]

i see swords with unarmoured for horde clear

[empty granite]

Sidestepping a Mutant into a warp strike with FS is fun

[hot yew]

thought this could be walmart unarmoured

[pure peak]

Pox walkers be too weak already

[empty granite]

They're using exploits to lawnmower hordes

[hot yew]

FS weaker 😦 they dont get 1 tap unless i crit lol

[pure peak]

I use FS for elites etc

n0t for random mobs

thats a waste

[empty granite]

You typically use the FS for elites/bosses, but you can clean up a few poxwalkers

[hot yew]

nah its the dmg you do between blocking

like when you have it out defensively

cant use staff all the time

[pure peak]

can't slice more than one enemy with fs

so ud just get damaged

unless you can remember to force block and push and then slice

repeatedly

[analog juniper]

you can slice 2

[pure peak]

I never noticed

[analog juniper]

[hot yew]

light > heavy > block reset hits a couple, but yeah its shit

[pure peak]

[daring mural]

Why do i feel that FS really hurting of it's special attack animation being long?
And big dmg on psy-blast part...

[midnight violet]

yes i can, and you cant make me stop blasting

[pure peak]

I feel like its damage over time the animation

[hot yew]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[pure peak]

not actually you do the hit and its instant damage

But you slice then the warp effect daamge

whole effect

[hot yew]

nah FS its 3 ticks isnt it

[analog juniper]

both DoT and a big chunk at the end

[pure peak]

Ye something like that

Yeeepers

[daring mural]

Test on boss. Big chunk comes after blast animation

[pure peak]

idk the word to describe

[analog juniper]

actually its a 3 hit combo

[pure peak]

THO what we need is invulnerability during Warp FS animation

[analog juniper]

initial strike, DoT, then headpop

[pure peak]

Imagine

[daring mural]

Like, chainsword is better >_>

[pure peak]

n0

it no magical sword

[daring mural]

I mean in chunky hit dept.

[pure peak]

you want some random mechanical sword

[analog juniper]

especially not in that department

[pure peak]

or do you want a magical sword like the emperor sword

[daring mural]

Twohander then

[pure peak]

Doesnt zealots have one?

[proud sierra]

does pyskinetic wrath only work with force swords or does that work with staffs as well?

[hot yew]

what

[daring mural]

What

[analog juniper]

thats the F ability

[pure peak]

yes

[analog juniper]

it doesnt have anything to do with weapons

[gray island]

also helps wit hstaff damage, doesnt affect the damage of the burn affect of soulblaze though

[hot yew]

💀

[daring mural]

Works best on not making you boom-boom

[pure peak]

thats the whole point

You HIT F to down all the horde and walk up all the way to the elite

and warp sword his face

[daring mural]

See ? Better have F off cooldown...

[pure peak]

f button is a game changer

o3o

[daring mural]

[analog juniper]

F is for venting mainly, some small utility with Blaze when using Purgatus, or to make BB usable on higher diff

[proud sierra]

thank you

[pure peak]

OR

Which I hate

Sometimes the marksmens dont shoot the gunners in rear

so you F wrath the horde

and walk all the way to the back

and fs his face

[proud sierra]

Didn't reallize there was a feat called pyskintec's wrath and then the actual ability lol

[analog juniper]

or just shoot the gunners with your warp powered bowling ball of explosions

[pure peak]

i forget

[meager plinth]

Your ability lets you stagger certain enemies like ragers, stop dogs/removing dogs from teammates at very far distances, create space for various reasons, etc etc

[daring mural]

Duel snipers with void staff

[pure peak]

sometimes the hide behidn the walls so i cant hit them

so i say frick it and walk there and smack him

usually team follows up and follows

or i die

[meager plinth]

with purgatus it lets you go above the burn cap on your staff which increases your damage by a lot

[daring mural]

I hit mutie with charged FS... before big dmg happened he turned around and grabbed me.

[pure peak]

LMFAO

[daring mural]

I don't use FS after that bs

[analog juniper]

bad timing

[daring mural]

Or on captains. Charge,hit... oops shield is up

😐

[pure peak]

Erm

Im pretty sure it bypasses shield

[analog juniper]

again, getting the timing wrong

[pure peak]

From my pov

[analog juniper]

it does not

[pure peak]

I haven't been blocked by the shield once yet

[daring mural]

Nah i saw shield dmg

[restive cave]

Don't think anything does

[meager plinth]

captain, not bulkwark

the boss

[analog juniper]

you have to be very fast after the shield pops to get the FS charge attack

[pure peak]

What I want to know if it cancels out animations

[analog juniper]

same with the mutant

[pure peak]

so lets say a hound is jumping and you FS its face

[glass thistle]

Actually I think force sword is a weakness to pskyer def

[pure peak]

does it cancel its tackle

[analog juniper]

how?

[pure peak]

Force sword = Force Block = high peril = more dps

then you have force downing push

[glass thistle]

@analog juniper non force sword can tank melee forever

[analog juniper]

you can literally wade through a horde to save people with the FS

and block bullets on top

[pure peak]

^^^

you use peril not stamina

too

[glass thistle]

It wont work if bullet start kick in

[pure peak]

[pure peak]

It blocks bullets

[daring mural]

Whaaaaa

[meager plinth]

if you have the blessing

[analog juniper]

it works but only from the front

[glass thistle]

I mean force sword cant quell with blocking

[analog juniper]

press F

gg

[pure peak]

You force down the peeps in front and use F

and quell

and repeat

[glass thistle]

Non force sword can block and quell at the same time

[pure peak]

your shields will rechage during block

[analog juniper]

irrelevant

[pure peak]

or during period of rest

[analog juniper]

you also cant block bullets

[pure peak]

With deflective blessing

oh wait nvm

u talking about the trash non force

[analog juniper]

ye

[glass thistle]

You just bath inside horde and immune to melee with non force sword, r gunner cant shoot you too

[meager plinth]

the auto-quell on non-force weapon is quite sizable, dont forget that either

[analog juniper]

I'm aware

[daring mural]

On topic of melee. Dagger,shortsword,sable are suboptimal?

[uncut hamlet]

does deflector autoblock ranged while reviving

[analog juniper]

I just dont see a reason to not use FS

[pure peak]

Same

[uncut hamlet]

thats fucking amazing then

[pure peak]

one shot killer fs vs non force sword

[uncut hamlet]

if only i had one

[meager plinth]

the duelling swords are pretty decent, its a shame its movement tech got removed

[hot surge]

im here to tell you about our lord and savior mkv axe

[glass thistle]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=knua8qZGPeA&feature=shares

[pure peak]

[olive ember]

Kinda its a bit jank.. iirc for reviving it blocks all normal shots 360 but reaper and shotgunners are a bit jank

[analog juniper]

I've seen that axe, I have that axe, I cant block bullets with that axe

[glass thistle]

Non force sword = 360 immune to all melee forever

[pure peak]

Fs is my elite and boss killer too

[analog juniper]

it doesnt block bullets 360

only like 90 degrees in front

[sacred lodge]

wish we had a force axe...

[olive ember]

for reviving*

[analog juniper]

no

[glass thistle]

FS is active too danger , it takes too long

[pure peak]

Takes like seconds

[analog juniper]

when reviving its the same

[hot surge]

perhaps my tune will change if a bullet blockin FS would just show up in the shop for me...

[pure peak]

you charge FS before you get to the elite

timing

[olive ember]

nah it blocks 360 I've been shot in the back and its blocked it

for reviving

[glass thistle]

It’s like Rev of Chainsword, too dangerous

[analog juniper]

if I get shot from behind while rezzing I always die

[pure peak]

you have a team thats covering you wtih bullets so whatever Horde gets downed by your F

You one shot that armored elite

coming at u

[meager plinth]

maulers? you dont oneshot them

[pure peak]

or 2.

[glass thistle]

Also at higher difficulty bullet fill your quell at 3 sec

[sacred lodge]

so is there an achievement or penance for completing all mission types on damnation, or is that purely for masochism personal enjoyment?

[pure peak]

thats why I said 2

[cyan notch]

frame

[pure peak]

two full chage hits it gonna die

[olive ember]

You can actually one shot maulers with FS special but it requires setup and a bit jank

[sacred lodge]

eh, it's still something

[glass thistle]

But a non force sword can block every melee unit in game forever

Like daemonhost

[pure peak]

why would you take the ogryn job

[meager plinth]

and then you have 2-3 maulers at the same time and one does a overhead swing while you are using the special

[gray island]

we can do every classes jobs wym?

[olive ember]

Idk how you are getting shot that a FS fills your peril in 3 seconds btw

[pure peak]

You have 3 CC abilities you can use before an enemy gets near you too

[glass thistle]

And force sword have no auto quell

[pure peak]

Surge? Void? Wrath?

[olive ember]

you get a funny border for beating all mission types on damnation besides that its masochism

[analog juniper]

2 reapers, 14 shooters 4 gunners

[remote tusk]

I mostly play damnation and struggle to switch out the mk5 axe. Would like other weapons to get a minor buff

[daring mural]

Wrath

[pure peak]

and Force sword also has CC

[olive ember]

how are you in a position to get shot by all of them at once lmao

[pure peak]

itself with that downing

[glass thistle]

For me only use void strike

[analog juniper]

stand in a doorway blocking, lol, idk

[fresh reef]

how would you guys feel about a crafting system more similar to VT2?

[meager plinth]

at that point you'd be better off using the unlimited dodges of the FS

[pure peak]

I try to keep my peril above 50% anyways

[daring mural]

Horde Spawning behind you.
Nothing personnel, kid.

[pure peak]

[glass thistle]

Blocking bullet isn’t good at all, becuz you can corner blast gunners with void strike

[pure peak]

Thats why you have a flanker

ended up paying a player to play flank role

zzz

[cyan notch]

i mainly use force sword

[olive ember]

the FS shove and shove attack are both very strong if you know how to use it, unlimited dodge on the FS helps with horde, but yeah

[pure peak]

[analog juniper]

Blocking bullets is better than not being able to block bullets.
Checkmate

[uncut hamlet]

peril and warp resistance affect how much peril you gain via blocking dont they?

[analog juniper]

[tired cosmos]

Hey so I found a lvl 19 Deflector psyker blade. Is it worth using? For the tank build as I level up?

[glass thistle]

Also blocking bullet always make you careless to sniper, which cant be block

[olive ember]

I run FS cuz I like deflector utility but yeah mk V is also meta

[pure peak]

hide behind cover

[olive ember]

dunno how the dueling sword is now with the movetech removed

[pure peak]

:x

[analog juniper]

only noobs try to block the sniper

[cyan notch]

it doesnt really

[uncut hamlet]

How fucking smallbrain are you that you lose your habits of dodging snipers

because you can dodge bullets

[glass thistle]

@pure peak then why stop the bullet, you can always in cover

[pure peak]

enemy sniper has a red sight thats visible across the map

you can litterly

move

[cyan notch]

its like saying blocking bullets make you think you can block fire

[daring mural]

Get to lvl 30 without wasting much of crafting mats

[pure peak]

Some of us Main FS

[meager plinth]

say that to everyone that died to snipers

[ebon wigeon]

probably gonna piss off a lot of people with this, but isn't this our symbol on the new zealot cosmetic? https://i.imgur.com/jLP1o7R.jpeg

[pure peak]

So we charge with FS to kill elites

[analog juniper]

the only things you cant block are some overhead attacks from bosses and elites, and the sniper

[pure peak]

Staves are my secondary

[glass thistle]

FS elite kill have such low effective

[pure peak]

or i use lasguns

[uncut hamlet]

The stats are shit, but keep it to take its blessing when they implement that

[daring mural]

It's inquisition symbol iirc

[analog juniper]

Wat

[pure peak]

Better than marksman against armored foes

[olive ember]

you mean the symbol on the chest? Thats just the symbol of the inquisition, Psyker just has it plastered all over its armor

[glass thistle]

Bob up and void strike multiple elite in a line

[tired cosmos]

I @daring mural I haven't crafted anything. So I need to? I just have Deflector sword at 19. What else do I need? Should I save it for 30?

[fallow meadow]

Dueling sword is also good. You trade some killing power for speed comparing to the axe.

[uncut hamlet]

always? I expect you're never shot then right?

[pure peak]

had 2 marksmen litterly die to a single elite mutant that had a shield and full armor

[uncut hamlet]

even while reviving

[pure peak]

boucned all there shots

had to solo kill the dam thing with FS

[spiral remnant]

21% hp and 17% toughness is the highest i've seen on curios

[ebon wigeon]

shame this set is for zealots

[spiral remnant]

anybody seen 22 or 18?

[olive ember]

Don't bother, its the same with ogryns. If you look in ogryn chat they all swear that shields suck and you should run knife. Except they actually have a reasoning lmao

[daring mural]

Just buy stronger stuff from shop till 30.
For early lvls i liked recon lasgun, later void or surge staves

[fallow meadow]

I have heard toughness can also go to 20%

[uncut hamlet]

Im pretty sure thats just the inquisitorial rosette. All classes get it at 30

[glass thistle]

@olive ember not really, clue is good too

[tired cosmos]

@uncut hamlet thanks won't I still be able to block bullets and stuff as I walk around tho until I melee with it out?

[glass thistle]

Club

[analog juniper]

99.999% of Shield ogryns are doing some truly ungabunga things with the shield

[rancid burrow]

@tired cosmosDeflector is imo a necessary blessing for the force sword, you have a very good weapon but it will be outclassed as you level up

[meager plinth]

like standing in a tiny doorframe not moving for 30s

[tired cosmos]

@daring mural yea I like recon lasgun too

[daring mural]

21% hp is bis now

[olive ember]

health technically can go to 25% haven't seen it yet either. Best I've gotten is a 21% blue

[spiral remnant]

bis?

[muted wyvern]

What Blessings/Perks do you want on a Dueling Sword anyway?

[olive ember]

Best in Slot

BiS

[daring mural]

Best in slot

[glass thistle]

I hate FS because it limited you def and attack ability by for auto quell

[olive ember]

MMO terminology learned from ffxiv kek

[spiral remnant]

ah

[cyan notch]

maybe they chenged it

[tired cosmos]

@rancid burrow so do I just save it for lvl 30? It feels like I got it too early

[glass thistle]

And blocking bullet is really silly

[cyan notch]

i havent seen anything over 21 either

[uncut hamlet]

You're going to melee, you can't really play this game avoiding melee forever. For the moments you do, bad stats will kill you. Plus you wont have the mobility for dodging or warp resistance to lower peril cost for blocking that comes with a higher tier fs

[daring mural]

There was site with modifiers and how high they can roll

[pure peak]

this comment onfused me

but why wouldnt u use cover to

o.e

can hide behind cover and quell and repeat

[analog juniper]

How exactly is it limiting your defence when you can defend against melee and ranged?

[rancid burrow]

You didn't get it too early no, and it's gonna be weak by the time you're level 30. Give her a try

[uncut hamlet]

Nah you don't understand his big brain. A defensive blessing limits your defences, don't you get it?

[olive ember]

Honestly I only find the auto quell speed of a non FS useful if I'm tanking a daemon host

[analog juniper]

lmfao

[tired cosmos]

@rancid burrow so how do I play it now?

[glass thistle]

@pure peak https://youtube.com/watch?v=xR7Sem0Dbrs&feature=shares all you need is a good vet mate take out all shooters before they shoot others

[uncut hamlet]

"This blessing is bad as long as you have a good vet"

[pure peak]

Who said just shooters?

[rancid burrow]

So for a crowd control combo, one light attack chained to a heavy attack, then block and push

[pure peak]

You use the sword on any big mobs

[tired cosmos]

@rancid burrow I'm confused by the people saying just go for better weapons

[uncut hamlet]

"Therefore this blessing is bad"

[rancid burrow]

The sword can block bullets with stamina

[glass thistle]

@pure peak who use bullet beside gunners ?

[pure peak]

I use the FS on any mutant, Hounds, crushers.

Everythign

[rancid burrow]

I think people are under the assumption you have access to better ones

[pure peak]

FS just help me block bullets

[uncut hamlet]

Nah keep the weapon for sure, you just wont be able to use it forever if you plan on doing heresy damnation

[pure peak]

while i kill an elite

[rancid burrow]

But you just got this new one for the first time

[tired cosmos]

@rancid burrow okay so should I get curios and stuff that add stamina for block?@uncut hamlet

[uncut hamlet]

once you outgrow its stats, keep the sword to take its blessng to put on another force sword

[pure peak]

You misunderstanding the whole point

:X

[olive ember]

Malice gameplay means nothing tbh... you can bring anything on malice and it will work (I use dual linked stubber ogryn on malice)

[fallow meadow]

FS special is very good. This is a good enough reason to use it.

[olive ember]

not saying they should balance around the top 1% but still

[muted wyvern]

Worth grabbing?

[rancid burrow]

@tired cosmosfocus more on toughness

[uncut hamlet]

with peril block its not necessary. I'm not sure if block efficiency works on deflector, but in general its safe to go health/toughness always

[tired cosmos]

@rancid burrow @uncut hamlet I also got blessing or perk for +block finesse? Is that good?

[olive ember]

Block efficiency works w/ deflector iirc

[pure peak]

and lets say you have the shocking staff. The FS blocks everything so you can go over ther eand shock the shiet of him.

[glass thistle]

FS killing elite just so slow, you need to run up, and do a 3 s special animation, for one target.

A gun zealot takes out 3 crusher in 4s, and vet take out a room of gunner in volley fire

[rancid burrow]

Yes it does

[cyan notch]

yea

[pure peak]

Now some Vets don't kill gunners

lets be real

[uncut hamlet]

if youre going for pure defensive yea

[pure peak]

depends on team

[uncut hamlet]

ok then play zealot or vet jfc

[rancid burrow]

Some psykers don't know how much work the other psyker puts in on the team

Lets be real lol

[daring mural]

Hmmm while leveling get ordo or xp stuff.

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, dealing sword is fun to use. Try it out.

[olive ember]

FS killing elite isn't slow tho?

[pure peak]

^^^

[rancid burrow]

It's slow

But reliable

[pure peak]

i want to see you use that duel sword killing an elite

[analog juniper]

charge the thing as you run or before you run so that by the time you reach there you just hit and get your big damage and go. Ez

[tired cosmos]

@daring mural I got a 4% increase curio only one I found

[daring mural]

[rancid burrow]

I can show you it blocking a daemonhost with 0 damage

[glass thistle]

For me, the best of pskyer is the unlimited melee block ability, and super horde delete with void strike line up

[pure peak]

Litterly put warp onto the sword then CHARGE the sword

[olive ember]

you can do that with an axe too, and a FS if you really need to

[pure peak]

And them bam hit the elite

[tired cosmos]

@daring mural do refine get xp%, a lot of times?

[uncut hamlet]

tbh dont worry about your build at all for now. At 30, your rolls start getting better across the board. Until then, everything you get will be overshadowed eventually

[rancid burrow]

Ik its just something funny i did

[glass thistle]

If you go del elite , you just not effective than others

[daring mural]

Nah, waste of materials

[olive ember]

And thats the only time I feel like the faster passive quell of non force weapons even matters compared to force weapons

[uncut hamlet]

okay so, fs deflect doesnt work for you. It doesnt mean it doesnt work for others

[spiral remnant]

oh yah

[daring mural]

If shops sell it - get one

[fallow meadow]

Every wep have it's use. You are not just taking a stupid stick and just kill everything with it.

[uncut hamlet]

youre arguing something is trash because you dont know how to use it

[spiral remnant]

anything about 360+ is good, and anything 370+ is a must grqab

[tired cosmos]

What's fastest way to level just so quick level 2 assassination?

[pure peak]

Thats the point im making here

smh

[glass thistle]

@olive ember use non force weapon for super fast quell when you can still def yourself

[spiral remnant]

i am speed

[uncut hamlet]

I disagree. I've seen 370+ with like 50 damage that I would not grab

[olive ember]

not necessarily true, you haven't seen the low roll 30% damage 370's i've gotten kek

[pure peak]

In any case we all have a preferences

[spiral remnant]

yeah but... it's dockets?

[pure peak]

i dont see a point using the ugly dualing sword

[spiral remnant]

what else are you gonna use em for

[pure peak]

over FS

[cyan notch]

just grab it for the hidden shop buff

[pure peak]

[rancid burrow]

@spiral remnanti do the same

[olive ember]

I can still defend myself with a FS even with high peril? Its not like i'm just sitting there holding rmb lol

[pure peak]

Depends