psyker-class

[round jay]

but aren't the new weapon only for Ogryn and Fanatic?

[visual sand]

Probably "fell through the net" like the entire THunderhammer changes

[prisma minnow]

Oh I know. Our first mistake was thinking we would get a buff.

[ornate hamlet]

first attempt of the morning, sweet

[uncut hamlet]

I fucking remembered it under weapon balances

[celest oar]

i mean, i main ogryn and pysker

but mainly pysker lolz

[night marten]

I've never noticed an aoe on the fs special, use it against maulers charging in a pack of bullshit all the time and nothing else gets affected/swings on me while I'm animation locked

[vital bough]

Considering that it's nowhere in the change log for this patch, no mention of BB anywhere, it's most definitely a bug.
I've been looking over the patch notes for a while but I've seen no mention of it.

Best to assume it's a bug unless you see actual evidence of them acknowledging it's intentional.
Though, if you find any info I'd like confirmation on it myself.

[patent hatch]

Knife flame thrower be the budget zealot

[celest oar]

psyker gets alot more fun with exploits macros

[cyan notch]

bb nerf is really clunky like u just stand there with your hands out like ok im pressing r nothings happening

[night marten]

this set is arguably as slick as the heresy set honestly. ornate

[uncut hamlet]

You must be new here. Fat shark regularly makes balance changes without adding them to patch notes

[celest oar]

this looks like a christmas set

[round jay]

kk, as a psyker who waited hours to get one single surge staff in the shop, I guess the nex maul could also not appear for multiple shop depending on your luck xD

[uncut hamlet]

For example, the dodge nerf they implemented during beta that they later partially reverted (which they did add to notes)

[magic burrow]

aren't zealots in a kind of bad state as well? Tougghness issues, or so I've heard

[nimble burrow]

I only wear the red robes because I'm cope-cosplaying as a tech priest

[night marten]

I've heard they're near invincible with the right setup, but I don't know much about them at all

[vital bough]

Sure, but with how others are reporting weird shit like the 80% peril detonation bug returning and other bugs in other classes, I feel like there's a good chance it's not intentional.

I just think it's too early to say they did it on purpose for sure

[visual sand]

Its possible but you're gonna find little room to give Fatshark the benefit of the doubt round these parts

[vital bough]

Yeah I know, don't really care though I'm gonna still have my own opinion lol

[tranquil fiber]

[runic gate]

Can someone explain this to me?

In a salvo = in a row?

[primal aurora]

begone zealot spy

[lucid mortar]

2nd and 3rd shots are special, 4th can fuck off

[bleak tulip]

basically only works on left mouse afaik

[runic gate]

interesting

[tranquil fiber]

yeah its the crit bleed build; one of the perks gives you 75% toughness reduction when on critical hit (played with Axe or Dagger)

[lucid mortar]

I think it's to encourage burst fire

[tranquil fiber]

[night marten]

some talent also can regen tons of health or something

[bleak tulip]

on guns yeah, on staves it's just a bad joke

[lucid mortar]

but they have it on staff too lol

[bleak tulip]

I mean I unironically had more fun on zealot lately

[tranquil fiber]

yeah when your hp hits zero you basically have lifesteal for 4s

[uncut hamlet]

It would work well on the burst fire autoguns. If only they weren't so shit

[night marten]

damn nice

[tranquil fiber]

once ever 90s

[lucid mortar]

I want a puke bag cosmetic helmet as restitution for this heinous surge staff visual

[native copper]

can some 1 help me get Going Out With a Bang

[primal aurora]

It works on primary fire if you shoot in fast sequence. I don't think it works on secondary mode, so overall it is useless, except for bosses maybe.

[night marten]

there's already a urinal helmet available in the RMT shop

[runic gate]

Yeah i just tested it, doesnt work on LMB or RMB for staff. What a joke

[primal aurora]

It works on LMB for void staff. No idea about purge.

[tranquil fiber]

ohh yes the copium tubey helmet

[night marten]

just sayin

[ornate hamlet]

LOL

[celest raven]

LMAO

how did i never notice this

[tranquil fiber]

[lucid mortar]

can't unsee

[ebon jolt]

I think zealot is in a pretty good state. I enjoyed leveling mine to 30. My impressions were:

• Flamer > Purge Staff
• Zealot Melee > Psyker Melee (depending on how much you value peril block)
• Stun grenade >>> BB
  Each zealot feat tier feels impactful and like it positively affects gameplay.

[runic gate]

I'm testing it now brother and it swear my LMB is hitting for 165-180 over and over

[empty granite]

One of the other two available cash shop head pieces is just a toilet seat around the head as well

[tranquil fiber]

I like to do Damnation wearing this and prisoner garms

[lucid mortar]

It should make a flushing noise when you quell

[ornate hamlet]

oh boy, a yellow curio reward with +xp!

[jaunty atlas]

i want the savant to go "OOOHHHM" when he quells

[shut thorn]

@celest oar staff techs fixed

[runic gate]

how about a HO-YEAH

[jaunty atlas]

yeah ... huh no

[primal aurora]

Probably Ultramarine themed psyker armor

[runic gate]

I've never seen a toilet like that in my life.

[shut thorn]

sprint cancel is gone

r cancel still works

[night marten]

yea the seat is a bit weird on that one

[shadow quail]

oh look it's the psyker cosmetic

[shut thorn]

haha you wanna switch from your staff to melee quickly and cancel the attack? fuck you

[potent echo]

and then a sniper shows up

[jaunty atlas]

that wasn't the kind of ohm i had in mind but .. heh

who do not want to look like the best of the best of the best

minus one because custodians exist

[jaunty moth]

i still need that

[shut thorn]

so the delay isnt on bb only

its 6 seconds if u get staff to 100 repeatedly

[night marten]

holy shit

[jaunty atlas]

wait what ? no i get to 100 all the time a 6s penalty would kill me

[burnt python]

6s is sooooo long wtf

[shut thorn]

go to meat grinder, charge voidstrike up to 100, quell, charge to 100, quell, enjoy ur 6 sec lockout, u cant even switch weps

[sick kindle]

I think they just want you to not play the class.

[burnt python]

😦

[bitter abyss]

would be more ok if BB dps was something around 2k

[magic burrow]

what the fuck

[lucid mortar]

Does seem like an ideal time to level something else

[shut thorn]

ok you can switch weps if u dodge

[jaunty atlas]

ah you have to full charge

[night marten]

BB quelling delay at 100 from ~95 is about 2 seconds, but it feels pretty punishing

[stone narwhal]

Hedge acknowledged our pain, siblings!

[celest oar]

is it just me or does force sword push no longer push poxburster back

[stone narwhal]

The new Surge Staff VFX issue has been referred to the relevant teams!

[magic burrow]

more like an ideal time to finally go and get Dwarf Fortress on steam

[burnt python]

lmaooo they ap parently removed slide boosting too

[tranquil fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgnkpBLuiQk

[magic burrow]

this game can go and suck a nut

[sturdy nymph]

ok am I crazy or did they add a way to know which missions have a gift at the end ?

[dusky lantern]

what is this blasphemy you speak of

[burnt python]

might be time to step away for some months til they fix shit

[shut thorn]

i cant even see the improved vfx on fs

???

[jaunty atlas]

i cannot reproduce your thing, are you sure you do not have a bug when the key is not registered ? i push the button again and i quell you're stuf in the animation where the hand shake and stuff

[night marten]

oof, they fixed quelling at 100 with purge staff too

[celest oar]

sprint cancel no longer works

quell cancel and switch cancel are still there

[empty granite]

Cancelling what?

[summer prairie]

but can you switch cancel without blowing up at 100

[primal aurora]

to be honest I would prefer proper overall buff to psyker even at the cost of 'fixing' this macro-non-stop-cast-cancel-100%-peril-bullshit

[celest oar]

laughs in lawnmowers and machine guns

[summer prairie]

because it seemed like they changed when the check is made

[burnt python]

on some copium if you think this aint gettin fixed next lol

[night marten]

on purge staff?

[shut thorn]

switching out from antax to fs, I can't reproduce it now

[celest oar]

abuse until fix, fk them

[shut thorn]

so idfk, but not being able to quell sucks

[tranquil fiber]

its time to bring out my wounds kamikaze build

[stone narwhal]

What does this mean? What is going on with quell?

[celest oar]

if you hit 100% peril twice in a row, you get slapped with 2 sec hard lock where you cant active quell

[tranquil fiber]

imagine the sheer terror of being in Damnation with High Intense modifier and having grief vent hands lock out

[jaunty atlas]

well sometimes at max peril you cannot quell you have a penalty. some are locked, my key just do not register

[tranquil fiber]

[jaunty atlas]

oh 2 sec seems more like it but you can cut it with push

[echo parrot]

Think its time for me to main vet for awhile

[stone narwhal]

wtf, please tell me this is a bug and not by design?

[night marten]

lol damn, can't even charge staff past 100 without getting hit with the quell delay

[magic burrow]

killing yourself is a core principle of the psyker class and if you arent downing yourself regularly as a psyker you are abusing game mechanics and we will sledgehammer the psyker repeatedly until you do it right

[bleak tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/417691784848736258/1052971244452069496/image.png

oh hey duelling sword slide is out

[sick kindle]

....Well Darktide was a fun game while it lasted. When's Darktide 2 coming out?

[ebon jolt]

As soon as they develop some more cosmetics 😂

[shadow quail]

Anyone manage to get that FS macro working in AHK or synapse?

[jaunty atlas]

i don't understand why they go on the psyker so hard. that's not even the top performing class

not even the second

or the third

[wise ruin]

did they remove this change or what?

[snow laurel]

Anyone thinks tthe purge staff animation is horrible now? MY eyes hurts afer 1 map

[steel egret]

Gotta nerf

[sick kindle]

TFW they switched off the FOMO, but only because they had nothing to rotate and implying they will switch the FOMO back on when there is.

Like I knew FS was a bit bad at taking their sweet ass time in finding a delicate balance, but jesus it feels like a circus

[ashen cape]

Wait did bb get a nerf?

[sick kindle]

Peril itself got a nerf

[idle bay]

Devs found Darktide one to be too immeasurably complex for players so Darktide 2 will be like this

[ashen cape]

Bruh

[wise ruin]

wait they actually nerfed bb?

[lucid mortar]

There's a very obvious lack of QA lol. It feels like the engineers are testing their own implementations and only testing happy-paths

[night marten]

wait... did they buff soulblaze damage at all? or maybe just the purge staff??

[steel egret]

When is the closed beta?

[ashen cape]

Psycher felt balanced in the beta, then they nerfed it one full game release, then they nerfed psycher again

[bitter abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[night marten]

I'm able to one-shot damnation maulers with a secondary charge now

[magic burrow]

you all misunderstood the brain burst skill. It's supposed to burst your own brain please understand/

[amber nest]

Do I reroll the +20% damage to infested enemies?

[idle bay]

It was already completed. You've seen the video of all the figure fitting into the square slot

[burnt python]

with what

[night marten]

purge staff

[calm tulip]

did fs nerf the light attack slide mechanic? also even my peril feels like it's skyrocketing even with warp ressistance 80 and warp flurry on my staff.

[shadow quail]

Isn't that was surge does now?

[burnt python]

is soulfire doing more dmg?

[bitter abyss]

DS zoomies are gone yeh

[sick kindle]

Yes, weapon attack sliding is gone on all weapons.

[night marten]

I can't be sure, but it seems like things are dying a bit faster, and the full secondary does way more total damage

[echo parrot]

Thats 20% more poxwalker and hound damage flat, so its your decision.

[forest meadow]

It feels like iut

[sick kindle]

Because screw having fun movement tech, right?

[tranquil fiber]

sorry bud :/

[echo parrot]

Id keep it tbh

[steel egret]

Why?

[magic burrow]

also why are you able to charge brain burst with no target? Its literally hold right click to kill yourself

[shadow quail]

Fun

[tranquil fiber]

sensational

[night marten]

prep for the dog coming around the corner

[bitter abyss]

because plan S is always availible to Psykers

[amber nest]

Hmm, didn't realize it was walkers and hounds. Thanks

[faint steeple]

Hey guys, i hope you are alright. Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches? Because i killed 3 elite when i explode but dont get the archivement

[ebon jolt]

Half the time it’s standing behind a horde of enemies and I can’t target it with BB anyways 😓

[sick kindle]

No seriously look. Look at what they did to my boy. https://streamable.com/hhxt8k

[echo parrot]

If you do into the meatgrinder and hit things it will say what they are above their head

[sick kindle]

They smashed his knees. HE CANT MOVE.

[tranquil fiber]

"buy one bb get one free"

• Pox Walkers everywhere

[night marten]

yea they DEFINITELY did something to either purge staff, or soulblaze in general

[wise ruin]

why did they remove the force sword change tho

[night marten]

this was NOT possible previously

^ full secondary

[tranquil fiber]

might be worth testing in the meat

[tranquil fiber]

damn... yeah thats different.

[mild canopy]

Revert Surge STaff VFX. im not joking. REvert this horrible ass sshit

[wise ruin]

or is it gonna be out with the new weapons?

[burnt python]

if soulfire actually kills stuff thats a massive buff for AB too

[bleak tulip]

yeah of those two that the one I would probably reroll

[calm tulip]

Come on that's plain stupid to nerf the slide. psyker feels less fun now. it feels like they FORCE you to play one single fucking style with no diversity left and right.

[tranquil fiber]

try 6 stacks of WC and F

[idle bay]

I need to do more testing, but Surge staff ssems to no loner one-zaps Scabs and accumulates peril slower

[burnt python]

yeah just at a glance soulflame is doing WAY more dmg

[dusky lantern]

gamers, my back is hurting from sitting too much. whats the best way to stretch it out

[burnt python]

getting up to 150dmg ticks with 1 right click charge when previously same staff got to about 100

[night marten]

hmm, tough to say whether I see a difference with 6-stack AB

[lucid mortar]

do hip stretches

[burnt python]

ok ticking 191 on full right click charge, i never saw ticks near that before

almost double dmg it feels

[echo parrot]

How, legit question.

[night marten]

I think it might just be purge's damage

[calm tulip]

do something for your lower back muscles. look up google for exercices.

[lucid mortar]

Look up hip flexor stretches on youtube, it'll be easier than me explaining

and probably safer

lol

[long wharf]

do kegels.

[sleek prairie]

why are they nerfing psyker in to oblivion

[tranquil fiber]

I've got an old clip before patch.

[night marten]

@burnt python @tranquil fiber yea I'm not noticing any numerical damage difference from 6-stack AB, I think purge staff specifically was super buffed

[dusky lantern]

??? Instructions unclear, house burning now

[calm tulip]

to buff vet

[sleek prairie]

makes sense 😄

[long wharf]

and how are we enjoying the latest bunch of undocumented changes?

[night marten]

yea comparing against the one I made here https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[burnt python]

yup feels that way, 5 stacks now ticking for 46 dmg on my staff, was like 30 before

ab feels the same

but kinetic overload/ab gonna benefit massively from this

[night marten]

well wait, soulblaze might still be exactly the same

[lucid mortar]

commence the purge

[ebon jolt]

Maybe they made it scale with the same numbers as burn? I’m fairly sure burn did more damage previously than SB.

[night marten]

that's what AB throws out

so KO might actually still be dogshit

[sleek prairie]

i'm pretty sure nothing is made to scale on psyker

[bleak tulip]

maybe purgatus is in line with zealot flamer now

[night marten]

but we know purge damage is treated differently from soulblaze

[tranquil fiber]

that would be nice... no longer bringing a candle to a gun fight

[burnt python]

it will trigger way more often if soulflame from staff is reliably killing shit

[radiant niche]

condolences everyone

[night marten]

so it might be that the weapon's direct damage received a buff, but soulblaze is still mediocre?

[night marten]

that's fair

[sick kindle]

Just protest the nerfs. Using nothing but axes and lasguns. Protest the cosmetics by wearing only prisoner outfit. Go 'Wtf are you talking about, I'm playing veteran. Psyker was killed this patch'

[tranquil fiber]

it makes sense, otherwise every build would just run KO

[tranquil fiber]

[ebon jolt]

V - Tab on the weapon to see if the damage numbers changed?

[burnt python]

hmmm i wonder if they modified the flak dmg modifier from purge dot, it feels noticably more impactful vs flak and not much different vs infested etc

[bleak tulip]

I'll just play zealot instead, I ain't playing gunpsyker lmao

[sick kindle]

? wym whats a gun psyker? Clearly I'm on vet?

[tranquil fiber]

Navy Seal mate... always sealing the deals

[bleak tulip]

I don't like ogryn so far, don't wanna play vet and psyker is kinda dead, I guess all I have left is zealot

[nocturne current]

Pick n Mix still looks like rough going five in 10s is that doable after the update?

[ebon jolt]

Only mention of Purg staff in the notes was:
“Fixed a bug where Flamer and Purgatus Staff secondary attacks would not damage enemies if the attack was too short.”

[mild canopy]

great, now i cant play my main char-psyker till they revert this shit vfx

[night marten]

good idea

[sick kindle]

If we get enough psykers to act this way to throw lobbies then one of two things will happen. The class will get deleted, or it will get fixed.

[bleak tulip]

the duelling sword dash fix wasn't in the notes either, seems pretty standard for fatshark

[ebon jolt]

Before it was what, 13? Unarmored.

[burnt python]

theres some weird shit going on with purge

i cannot reliably reproduce same results vs same enemey

[forest lance]

Did Psyker get nerfed? It's feels weird.

[night marten]

OH SHIT

[burnt python]

almost like crits are now triggering more stacks or something

[fresh reef]

accidentally opened the server into general and lost 5 braincells

[night marten]

did fire rate increase???

on purge staff? old shot

new shot

maybe that's why it's damage feels WAY better now

[celest oar]

purg definitely feels stronger

[night marten]

and soulblaze seems unaffected

[burnt python]

look at this, started from 0 peril, 0 warp charges both times, different results, I think crits are altering stack applications

[sick kindle]

What sort of nonsense is going on, sibling?

[ebon jolt]

If staff damage is higher than AB is now actually worse 😂

[night marten]

look at the above rate of fire increase

[bleak tulip]

how old is that ole one? iirc they changed the fire rate display last patch

because it was in the wrong unit

[night marten]

ahh. it's from 11/30

[bleak tulip]

yeah that should do it

[burnt python]

take ur purge, full charge vs an enemy, repeat - watch dot tick for different values

its being modified by something

and theres 100% some kind of boost vs flak specifically

[umbral field]

i'm guessing it's being modified by a bug

lmao

[bleak tulip]

wouldt be surprised

[celest oar]

right, psykers cant get good stuff

[wise hemlock]

I pretty much hate how weak I feel with all the staffs minus maybe void, ill be 30 in a few levels maybe it will change then

[celest raven]

what melee weapon do you have equiped... lol is it a bug from that or some bs

[faint steeple]

Hey guys, Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches? Because i killed 3 elite when i explode but dont get the archivement.

[burnt python]

have this melee equipped, its possible rending is applying

[ebon jolt]

Void feels like it falls off a bit in higher difficulties unless you upgrade your staff and get a good roll. Personal opinion.

[long wharf]

but you aren't hitting weak spots with purge

[teal cargo]

Im not a Void Enjoyer

[wise hemlock]

Yeah im just levelling psy to 30 but its not my main, just dont feel like I contribute enough but also squishy

[ebon jolt]

Created by their bugfix to the Purg staff change that fixes instances of no damage.

[burnt python]

yeah im specifically avoiding heads so im p sure its a crit multi

[teal cargo]

i like specialization

[night marten]

is there something that stops you from getting crits with purge on Unyielding enemies? I can't crit this reaper to save my life

[inner bay]

aren't all warp attacks boosted against flak?

[burnt python]

purge was tickling flak previously

[night marten]

but a full secondary still chunks him for 75%

[teal cargo]

Key feat is lrvel 20 Kinetic deflect, take that and you super tanky while blocking

[scarlet geyser]

Should i get it?

[high agate]

Nah I get that too. Came over from Vet and Psyker feels like garbage comparatively. Only thing he has going for him is the flamethrower staff because it stuns

[burnt python]

i can only crit reaper when hitting head

[wise hemlock]

well im coming over from vet but thats an op class to start with

[night marten]

with non-purge?

[ebon jolt]

Now you need to go to the zealot and use the flamer and then come back again 😂

[boreal crag]

So, what stealth nerfs did Psyker get hit by?

[wise hemlock]

Or buff Psyker

[burnt python]

w/ purge

[night marten]

bizarre

[scarlet geyser]

So, they changed Surge animations so i can get motion sickness?

[wise hemlock]

I still hate surge omfg

[scarlet geyser]

Feels pretty authentic Psyker experience, love it, vomitting for second hour

[burnt python]

basic flak grunts now die to 3 stacks of fire

[muted wyvern]

So, I ran a mission and asked my team if they can see how bad the Surge VFX change is... It's shit for me, and also pretty fucking bad for the team too. I was a walking fucking strobe light to them... I can't see that staying as-is.

[burnt python]

unarmored still take 5

[wise hemlock]

walking strobe light lmao

[weak galleon]

What exactly got changed about Force Sword "special" attack?
I'm trying Psykhanium and cant see a difference

[night marten]

weird, I'm not seeing any changes at all in soulblaze damage specifically

[muted wyvern]

Dude, it's like being in a fucking Rave

[inner bay]

nothing

[jaunty moth]

visuals

[night marten]

did you apply stacks with the staff?

[burnt python]

yes with left click to count stacks

[spice oar]

its a VFX difference instead of the AOE that was said

[long wharf]

WHAT THE EVER LOVING SHIT IS WITH THE SURGE STAFF

[weak galleon]

lol, ok

[night marten]

so that would explain the lower stack count needed

[long wharf]

is my psyker suffering epileptic seizures now?

[celest oar]

1. 100% peril hard lock, hitting 100% peril twice in a row prevents active quelling for 2 secs
2. Surge is now a strobe light
3. Sprint cancel no longer works to prevent 100% peril explosion
4. dueling sword sprint dash now sucks
5. All weapons can no longer increase movement speed using heavy attack + slide

[night marten]

use AB and F, it looks like the results are identical to pre-patch *at 4 and 6 stacks

[scarlet geyser]

No, but you will

[wise hemlock]

I pretty hate surge, trauma, purg as well now seems to take foever to kill shit

[burnt python]

im pretty confident they altered dmg vs flak vlues for purge

and if i had to guess, crits apply 2x stacks

[wise hemlock]

Even Purg seems to take years to kill shit down

[ornate hamlet]

so is purge cracked now?

[covert cosmos]

damn cant believe they fixed the slide

[weak galleon]

1. 100% peril hard lock, hitting 100% peril twice in a row prevents active quelling for 2 secs
THE FUCK.
They want to make BBs at Heresy+ even more chore than it is already?

[night marten]

Here's AB testing with 4 and 6 stacks pre-patch #psyker-class message

[covert cosmos]

might have to finally switch to antax now

[burnt python]

idk just fucking around in meat grinder but its definitely doing more dmg

[weak galleon]

since main way there was to quell down to 97% and cast again

[lucid terrace]

Please replace brain burst with ball burst.

[burnt python]

AB dmg is the same

[night marten]

the crits hit real hard now

[burnt python]

purge dmg specifically is higher

[ornate hamlet]

testicle burst?

[long wharf]

ugh, this is awful

[celest oar]

its okay guys, we can always abuse all the pysker exploits until they are willing to buff us

[long wharf]

who the fuck thought this screen-wide effect was a good idea?

[spice oar]

true

[muted wyvern]

yeah, it's not changing much with the Surge Staff, I was doing some 100% peril quelling and hitting 100% again and honestly felt the same. but when I tried to BB a bunch of shit... forget it.

[umbral field]

bursticle

[wise hemlock]

Im prob going back to my vet for a few I cant deal with psyker at level 26

[long wharf]

so now I'm penalized for using the surge staff so I can't see straight?

[night marten]

@burnt python you're completely right. Noticing a higher final tick value after one full secondary if I crit one or more times

[celest oar]

i swap bb to doing VS machinegun, but for primary fire

[night marten]

think crits are adding extra stacks

[muted wyvern]

Pick n' Mix and Malleus Monstronum is gonna suck more to do now...

[celest oar]

works pretty fine 🤣

[weak galleon]

so essentially a BB nerf.
🤣

[shadow quail]

Got it kinda working in synapse

[weak galleon]

fucking hell fatshark

[wise hemlock]

Maybe they dont want you using Staffs and want you to use a headhunter or recon lasgun

[viscid cloak]

Steam forums having a meltdown thinking that the psyker changes are intentional instead of questioning themselfs if it is a bug

pathetic

[pine iris]

is the new FS boom just visual effects or does it BOOM

[burnt python]

this is what im testing w/ btw

[night marten]

same

[shadow quail]

Visual

[pine iris]

GODDAMNIT EMMA WAS CORRECT

[long wharf]

yep

[echo parrot]

Canyone got a vid of the new FS effect?

[eager moat]

where can i read the changes? it seems like everythings different now especialy now that i cant see when using staffs

[long wharf]

FatShark wasn't ever going to actually buff force swords

[burnt python]

i dont even see the visual change to fs

[shut thorn]

yes, it depends on your finesse

[eager moat]

what is the fs macro?

[shadow quail]

I got it working... kinda. Have to mess about with the MS

[weak galleon]

Your AHK is actually working in DTide? Can you pm me the script, please? Mine refuses for some reason.

[lucid terrace]

agoopnor

[night marten]

tick values after full purge secondary with crits, and without crits

[shadow quail]

Im using synapse

[night marten]

hell yea

[burnt python]

right click full charge now 1 shots bulwarks in the back

[celest oar]

dosent seem like anything at all

[echo parrot]

Why are you unironically using malware?

[burnt python]

possibly crit dependant

[eager moat]

what is the fs macro?

[burnt python]

yup bulwark lives with like 10% hp if no crit

[thorn sphinx]

So purge staff crit soulbaze build viable??

[night marten]

oof, looks like I don't get there unless I crit

[celest oar]

this is with block push, remove the last 4 inputs for lawnmower without

[burnt python]

purge crit meta l m a o

[elder rivet]

change the flak armoured perk as soon as you can, it's useless

[wise hemlock]

off all your choices prob the least sucky

[steep bridge]

What level or gear does one require to get Psykers penance where you have to off yourself and kill 3 elites while doing it. I came to a conclusion it's undoable in a random group because those Elites are like a bright right light to every player

[night marten]

omg one-shotting bulwarks with purge..... so good

[wise hemlock]

wtf am i looking at ?

[burnt python]

the crits are making a massive difference in dmg scaling it feels

[celest oar]

FS lawnmower

[umbral field]

is it me or does the boom not do enough damage to kill most elites unless they're already low?

[night marten]

they are, but I think it's more than that. even with no crits at all I'm doing way more damage than previously

stacks might be lasting a little longer than previously

no, that can't be it

[celest oar]

FS is only weapon in game that can attack immediately upon being drawn

[weak galleon]

QQ-Light attack spam.

[night marten]

idk, purge staff just hits like a truck now

[wise hemlock]

sorry whats fs

[celest oar]

force sword

[steep bridge]

Yeah it doesn't do much damage to Elites, sure it will wipe trash mobs but you pretty much require an Ogryn to lure them to himself and tank them, do a bit of damage to them and them do allahu akbar impersonation

[weak galleon]

Nice find @celest oar
Guess I need too change my clicker software for DTide, autohotkey worked just fine in Vermintide 2.

[celest oar]

i am guessing you dont know whats the VS machine gun either, so here you go

[burnt python]

seems like most flak specials / elites are dying to about 7 stacks now w/ a 20% +flak staff

[proud mantle]

the shop needs to fuck off

[faint steeple]

Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches? Because i killed 3 elite when i explode but dont get the archivement

[night marten]

testing with

[shadow quail]

That also a macro?

[celest oar]

yep

[shadow quail]

same?

[celest oar]

obviously not

[shadow quail]

Can you send that one ill have a look

[burnt python]

1 stack of soulfire on unarmored = 1 dmg, 1 stack on flak = 3 dmg

[shadow quail]

ty

[celest oar]

you can use this for both LMB and RMB, just hold RMB when you wanna use the secondary fire

[plucky hemlock]

what software is this?

[celest oar]

logitech mouse

[burnt python]

nvm 1 dmg on infested, 2 dmg on unarmoured, 3 dmg on flak

[night marten]

I'm deleting unarmored and infested packs like twice as fast, amazing

[ebon jolt]

Can you still use Purg at 100% peril indefinitely or does that quell delay change prevent it?

[night marten]

that was fixed. if you do anything with the staff while at 100, you explode

[celest oar]

sprint cancel no longer works

[burnt python]

i dont understand how this shit is working. 1 stack on infested = 1 dmg, 1 crit stack on infested = 10 dmg

[shut thorn]

@celest oar are you doing qq click qq rmb lmb repeat for the block ver

[mystic dirge]

This is all great information gathering. Much appreciated.

[celest oar]

1. Sprint cancel (surge 2nd, purg 2nd)
2. Quell cancel (all staff 1st, void 2nd)
3. Switch cancel (Forcesword lawnmower)

[burnt python]

10 dmg is not a number i can reach w/ soulfire on noncrits, it goes to 9 then past 10 - so crits have some kind of soulfire dmg modifier attached

[celest oar]

yep

[orchid jetty]

hope they get that crap fixed next update

🥱

[shut thorn]

ill try out after this run, trying out purg rn

[night marten]

trying to reproduce, left click crits are hard

[long wharf]

look at what they did to my boy

[celest oar]

hope they buff us instead of doing stupid shit like random nerfs nobody asked for

[long wharf]

surge is headache inducing, now

[burnt python]

on infested, 1 stack = 1 dmg, 1 crit stack = 4 dmg

[orchid jetty]

Hope they fix dumb stuff like that actually

Was dumb in v2 its dumb now

[remote tusk]

How does quell cancel work on surge and purge?

[obsidian creek]

surge staff is quite harsh now lol

[gray ore]

Fix and buff

[obsidian creek]

especially when in a green fog

[pine iris]

"server disconnect 2006" got this a few min into my first match post update. never saw it before

[obsidian creek]

oof

[night marten]

@burnt python one crit stack on infested does 5 damage for me

*non-crit is 2

[celest oar]

you quell the moment fire / bolt leaves staff

[burnt python]

prob your staff mods

perk

[night marten]

I get to 5 with two non-crits

[celest oar]

In general,
1. Sprint cancel is used to prevent exploding at 100% peril, you sprint right before attack animation ends - Fixed
2. Quell cancel is used to remove / reduce recovery frames, you press R the moment bolt / flame leaves staff
3. Switch cancel involves switching to a weapon and switching back immediately after, this is abusable on forcesword as it is the ONLY weapon that can attack immediately on being drawn

[remote tusk]

Ty

[burnt python]

hmmmm

so maybe just double stack application

[night marten]

I think you just get an extra stack with crits

[ebon jolt]

Does the burn stack inflict damage based on the base damage of the hit that triggers the burn? There could be a bug with crit that applies burn damage equivalent to total damage instead of the individual burn that trigger the burn application or something like that.

[burnt python]

numbers are adding up super weird for me

[night marten]

might hit some weird breakpoint/rounding issue since the damage numbers are so low

[burnt python]

to my knowledge, no, the stacks are flat values - but i have no way to test that

[ebon jolt]

1/.65 = 1.54. So fire rate is the same they just changed how it is displayed in a previous patch.

It used to be how long it took for one application now it is displayed as how many applications per second.

[merry lagoon]

Can anyone help with going out with a bang?

[burnt python]

crit at the end

it's not based on dmg the stacks are scalign w/ crits

[patent hatch]

Been really enjoying flame staff and knife recently

Playing budget zealot

[ornate hamlet]

well flame stuff is on the up and up now

[burnt python]

2 non crits = 8 dmg tick on bomber, so crit = 2x stack application

[long wharf]

and they made surge physically painful to use

[ebon jolt]

The burn stat determines burn max stacks and burn application rate. What does the burn intensity stat under the damage stat do?

[ornate hamlet]

you dont like constant blur?

[burnt python]

i assume its a scalar on dot dmg

[long wharf]

I do not.

[ornate hamlet]

yeah strange decision on fatsharks part to change surge to give us all astigmatism on use

[burnt python]

crit purg meta inc

[night marten]

damn hit a 344 tick after critting *on reaper

[long wharf]

Fatshark really wanted to push me to upgrade this white purge staff

[patent hatch]

I’m aiming to get 3 15% sprint efficiency

[tight saddle]

this is pinned in the zealot channel for flamer, flamer crits ruin tests lmao

[patent hatch]

Is this a bad idea

[night marten]

jesus, two crits gives me a 480 tick

[weak galleon]

I assume it's also exponentially affects previous stacks?

[burnt python]

yeah rea lly fuckin hard to get accurate numbers w/ crits rn

[burnt python]

it's not exponential

[night marten]

multiplicative, with a ceiling

[burnt python]

some sort of custom curve i believe

its not multiplicative either

[long wharf]

it's a set base damage per number of stacks

not an equation, but an array of values

[burnt python]

that would fit what im seeing

[ebon jolt]

Did they have something in the release patch notes to fix this?

[long wharf]

yeah, we talked about this yesterday and did some testing

[weak galleon]

How does this happen then
[8:50 PM]bowkill - melk's is a scam: jesus, two crits gives me a 480 tick

[long wharf]

the increase in damage by number of stacks is not consistent with an equation-based curve

[burnt python]

zealots noticed flamer doing increase flak dmg this patch as well?

[long wharf]

because crits

okay everyone, time for you to suffer with me

starting out as :

[tight saddle]

No, zealots can still melt crushers and maulers with their F skill since it makes all flame ticks crit while it's active

[long wharf]

now

[night marten]

pretty good!

[tight saddle]

I guess I'm just going to play void or trauma until they fix surge

[weak galleon]

well, can always rebless it i guess. later.

[long wharf]

Hadron strikes again

[night marten]

oof

[summer prairie]

well the other perk doesnt matter

as long as the first roll is good

[long wharf]

oh? we get to change the perk?

[night marten]

oh can we reroll them infinitely?

[long wharf]

I thought we only got to upgrade the perk?

[weak galleon]

yes, we can now

no, you can choose 1 perk to change indefinitely.

[long wharf]

huzzah!

[weak galleon]

but 2nd one gets locked.

[night marten]

godamn

[burnt python]

AB & purge are now stacking soulfire btw

[burnt python]

instead of seperate stack counts

[tight saddle]

You can reroll 1 perk infinitely, and it locks out the other one

[long wharf]

that's actually decent

[night marten]

it's a pretty great staff

[weak galleon]

it also reduces cost of reroll with each reroll.

[night marten]

wish I could change one of my blessings

[minor elk]

So, my Psyker homies

How's everyone enjoying getting epileptic seizures

[tight saddle]

It ends up being free forever after a certain amount

[minor elk]

from the new Electro-staff update?

[crisp yacht]

What would ideal blessings be for purge?

[long wharf]

I should probably aim for crit chance

[summer prairie]

the cost goes down to 0 eventually so just get exactly what you want

[night marten]

I mean, that works just fine. flak or infested would be good too, just not carapace lol

[burnt python]

AB & purge now stack additively

[crisp yacht]

Crit chance increase with higher peril? Ideal purge blessing

[burnt python]

pretty sure it did not function this way before

[long wharf]

I just want increase ranged crit strike chance 5%

[night marten]

yea I felt like stacks weren't ticking properly when doing direct damage with purge, never confirmed

[tawny maple]

finally

[long wharf]

keep getting 4%

[weak galleon]

the staff is complete trash both in base and in staff itself, but wth is that blessing?

[buoyant mantle]

they ducking stealth nerfed psyker isnt it

[undone fossil]

Hows the force sword special buff?

[glacial abyss]

Holy shit I’d love that blessing

[inner bay]

no buff

[bleak tulip]

it feels like the quell delay doesnt kick in until you get over like 110% with your cast or something like that

[undone fossil]

So the patch didn’t work for the force sword?

[weak galleon]

no, it's visual change, nothing else.

[wind jay]

It's every other 100% that is given via BB. However you can get around it by using a staff's left click in between each 100% BB use.

[inner bay]

just a visual change

[pulsar sleet]

I’m a baby psyker Im ogryn main so the mindset is different so I was wondering what melee weapons would everyone recommend

[buoyant mantle]

cant vent when youre over 100 %

[bleak tulip]

there isnt even that

[amber nest]

I like the duelling sword for its mobility

[edgy sinew]

Can somone tell me what a warp charge is, just made a psycher operative

[wind jay]

So get to 100% via BB, cool to 85-90%, left click with a staff, and you can use the next BB without penalty.

[weak galleon]

Force Sword, Mk5 Axe, Duelist blades, knife.

[bleak tulip]

I feel like the FS change went the way of the TH buff, its not there

[inner bay]

it's meant to be just a visual change but I still don't have it

[pulsar sleet]

Thank you

[bleak tulip]

the FS visuals are still the same

[long wharf]

yeah, noticing this

[pulsar sleet]

Thank you

[burnt python]

yeah i dont see new fs visuals either

[buoyant mantle]

i really hope its bug

[surreal portal]

Normally you get one for a kill with brain burst, but with a higher level perk there's a chance to gen them from any kills in JOLLY COOP radius. That perk is the main source, really.

[tawny maple]

Because psyker needed this nerf

lmao

When in doubt nerf psyker

[buoyant mantle]

otherwise the flow is kinda ruined

[surreal portal]

Warp charges grant a small-ish damage buff, mainly.

[tardy flower]

The FS "buff" was probably the push attack

[ebon jolt]

So warp nexus is an S tier blessing on Purg staff now?

[buoyant mantle]

shit take ngl

[weak galleon]

Force sword - safe option (good CC + single target nuke) + infinite dodges + it can have ranged block blessing.
Mk5 Axe - pure dps powerhouse without a single weakness, Kinetic Deflection talent is a must have (push-attack vs hordes).
Other 2 options are mobility options

[tawny maple]

ever heard of sarcasm?

[bleak tulip]

yeah about the quell delay, I feel like its only when your go over 110% or something like that with your last cast, I can usually still vent aver going over 100 with my staff but not when its really close to 100 on release, and even with BB you dont always have to wait at 100, only when you got really close to 100 when you release it

[buoyant mantle]

i know lmao

[burnt python]

probably, assuming this isnt a bug lol

lookin nice

prob keep flak and reroll infested for crit

[spice remnant]

gonna start levelling psyker again from 8, whats the most useful staff before and up to malice

[ebon jolt]

What I really want to know is if you can get the surge blessing on the Purg staff and how that would affect burn application rate.

[wind jay]

The Quell-Lock occurs when you use BB to 100% twice in a row. If you hit 100% with one BB, you can use another BB to hit 100% again so long as you use a staff's left click in between it and the first one.

[tardy flower]

Or get rid of crit cuz its a purg staff...

[wind jay]

Without penalty I mean.

[silent bison]

trauma worked fine on endless malice when i was at lvl 6

so long as you hold your own and your team dont throw youll be alright

[burnt python]

it seems you have missed a lot of conversation lol. crits currently applying 2x flame stacks on purge

[silent bison]

oh shit?

[bleak tulip]

yeah can confirm it works with all peril generation like this, the second time is the block

[humble skiff]

what does rending do

[burnt python]

armor reduction

[glacial abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1051915071976116274/image0.gif

me in real life

[buoyant mantle]

someone need to forward this to forum

[glacial abyss]

rending goated no cap

[leaden pier]

which perk should i reroll

[night marten]

sprint

[burnt python]

sprint

[leaden pier]

thank

[long wharf]

weird, seems like I can't roll ranged critical strike chance other than 4%

[burnt python]

is 4% a 20 or 25 point perk

prob just rng

[long wharf]

20

[tawny maple]

Only happens every second time you go over the virtual 125% or whatever it is threshhold

[leaden pier]

well now i got 8% crit is

[burnt python]

should be able to roll higher then

[tawny maple]

so idk if its intended or bug

[sick kindle]

Lovely, just what the class needed. More micromanagement and less results.

[tawny maple]

cuz it is consistent

[bleak tulip]

nah its just 100, I just tried it with a LMB void shot

[burnt python]

that is extremely good

[bleak tulip]

those only do 5 peril

[burnt python]

yeah thats juicy

[summer wind]

i don't think it can crit

[long wharf]

that's crit damage, not crit chance

[burnt python]

it can

[long wharf]

you want crit chance with purge

[burnt python]

oooo

[leaden pier]

ah ok

[long wharf]

because that affects the dots

[tawny maple]

yea I see

[burnt python]

unless crit dmg scales the dot too???

[glacial abyss]

i love crit chance + crit dmg on surge staff its fun

[leaden pier]

now i got 20% damage against carapace

[long wharf]

definitely should be tested

[glacial abyss]

i just clear hordes like criminaloids

[night marten]

reroll

[burnt python]

if you got the resources to burn you want to roll for crit chance

[leaden pier]

alas im poor in diamantine

[weak galleon]

Can Purgatus even hit weakspot at all?

[burnt python]

yes it can but has a 1.00 modifier

so that is bad lol

[leaden pier]

ill reroll for crit chance when i get more

[royal granite]

kantrael mg 12

[night marten]

is there a complete perk list somewhere?

[lyric hatch]

@spice remnant force

[weak galleon]

too bad, got a bunch of staves like this sitting in inventory, none are perfect ones.
At least all have high damage/burn/cloud, but shit modifiers.

[burnt python]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[glacial abyss]

guys so basically never use gaming websites for info

[night marten]

well it shows blessings which is super handy

[glacial abyss]

all the good info is on this discord

[burnt python]

oh yeah sorry this is blessings not perks

[night marten]

just want to make sure we're trying for perks that are possible on the weapon

because I would have been rolling for a long time to get blazing spirit on purge....

[sage flower]

the surge staff hurts me now

[leaden pier]

if i reroll a perk does it's rarity stay the same? or is it possible to get higher or lower ones

[sage flower]

actual, physical pain

[leaden pier]

oh yea time to see surge staff

[steep bridge]

Is it worth refining my weapons into higher rank or should i just wait for better drop or requisition?

[buoyant mantle]

forwarded this to forum

[sage flower]

I think it, much like the warp, will melt my eyes

[weak galleon]

This turned out to be one hell of a nice horde deleter.
Don't care much about pen on it, +Rending (that I'll replace anyway, later).

[glacial abyss]

rending is goated

never underrate rending

[burnt python]

yeah rending is strong af

[night marten]

if it's not 350+ base stats modifier, probably not worth upgrading. damage should probably be at least 65% as well (unless surge staff)

[glacial abyss]

rending = u are a real soldier

[weak galleon]

it's on ohko. so during hordes, mostly.

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[burnt python]

gonna let you deal with mixed hordes that much better, i wouldnt change

[bleak tulip]

its also a little inconsistent, it seems on some stuff like void rmb you can quell cancel the delay (lmao the irony) but either I fucked up the timing at the end or its not super consistent

if you hit R fast enough you can kind of get around it

[leaden pier]

man where's the fs explosion

[bleak tulip]

not in

[leaden pier]

ok the surge staff hurts my eyes

[night marten]

will probably focus on upgrading this

[burnt python]

the new surge animation is fuckin awful lmao

[patent hatch]

Sheeeesh

[night marten]

LOL

nearly immediate nausea from surge staff

what the actual fuck

[leaden pier]

man i cant tell what else they added to the vfx other than the blur

[bleak tulip]

lol left click sprint cancel still works on surge

[burnt python]

i turn off camera shake and motion blur for a reason fatshark

fuckin trolls

[idle bay]

I did not notice any difference 🙂

[royal crescent]

Did they nerf brain burst ?

[bleak tulip]

they also didnt fully fix purgatus LMB cancel

[idle bay]

Surge animation looks the same for me

[full bane]

They nerfed the edging play style sadge

[leaden pier]

the same?

[strong trench]

psyker has graphical issues?

[burnt python]

motion blur city for me

[bleak tulip]

might be a graphics detail thing

[burnt python]

graphics on minimum or close to

[idle bay]

Mine set to high

[burnt python]

yeah thats prob the difference

mr nasa computer

[strong trench]

my friend says the same

[bleak tulip]

might be hard to see but I think the "heat blur" wasnt there before

[spark gale]

Is the game playable atm

[strong trench]

feels like 20 fps

[idle bay]

PC of mine is OLD.. bit it's Archeotech 🙂

[burnt python]

so bad lol

"how do we make it feel more impactful" "idk make it blurry and shaky?"

[bright raft]

is this good

[spark gale]

Is k

[bright raft]

will last a little bit? used all my mats lol

[burnt python]

in reference to surge visuals:

[idle bay]

Question: How much Peril your Surge staff gets per ZZZAP after and before patch?

[spark gale]

You are unlikely to get anything better. Just use it to block bullets and be happy

[bright raft]

ok thank you 🙂

[burnt python]

should not have changed

[idle bay]

Mine did... i suspect bugged perk. It was like 20% per zzzap. Now when Warp Flurry 3 fully charges i sometimes get 4-5% per ZZap

At zero warp charges

[burnt python]

bahahah did they apply the void bug to surge?

probably using lmb peril modifier like void is

[lone canopy]

I am tilted about the forced quell :[

I loved edging my peril. It was so much fun to ride the line.

[summer wind]

wait what?

[burnt python]

it was pretty much a necessity at high difficulty, should be interesting

[summer wind]

they force you to quell now?

[lone canopy]

mmhmm

[summer wind]

that's so boring what

[burnt python]

if you hit 100% peril twice in a row from the same action you get locked out of manual quell

[lone canopy]

Like the second ish time you hit 100. Not the first time

[summer wind]

WHAT?

why

lame

[night marten]

lol, it even happens just charging staff

[burnt python]

im guessing this is their attempt at fixing the quell animation canceling

[night marten]

can't quell until you stop charging and wait for a couple seconds

[magic burrow]

they were made aware that there were still Psykers using the brain burst skill and they had to act fast, please understand

[lethal plover]

We all know them psykers are too powerful

[glacial abyss]

very true.

[summer wind]

why does psyker get shat on every single time people start having fun with it

[burnt python]

guess i'll just enjoy purge for a while til they realiize they made it good

[lone canopy]

The best part is how it's not mentioned in the patch notes lmao

[glacial abyss]

psyker is always going to be the most fun class no matter what. real professional psykers know this

[night marten]

purge hits really hard now

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-fantasy-kairos-fateweaver-warhammer3-tzeentch-gif-26150136

[tired cosmos]

Lvl 16 psyker. What blessings Toughness wounds health, should I focus on for 2 curios for surviving and perks should I focus on beyond that

[long wharf]

I'll guess I'll urp run purge instead of surge for now

[high agate]

Im sure theyre gonna release some stupid chart showing that psykers have high match completion (because psykers have to bust their ass 24/7) and Veterans have low match completions (because 90% of player pop are crappy vets) and thats why they nerfed psyker

[summer wind]

i was running purge before, what changed about it?

[glacial abyss]

you guys dont understand the plan

fat shark = tzeentch

theyre the same thing

you guys are all fools honestly. sorry.

[night marten]

more overall damage, likely because they fixed the initial ramp up damage time

[burnt python]

some sort of unclear dmg boost to soulfire & crits w/ purge now apply double stacks

[summer wind]

double stacks?

[bleak tulip]

also RE: soublaze, I also dont think soulblaze got buffed, 4 stack ascendant in the video

[summer wind]

as in double stacks of dot?

is that a bug?

[burnt python]

yes, and i dont know lol

[summer wind]

of course it is

[burnt python]

1 crit tick = 2x dot application

[lone canopy]

I've been running surge as opposed to purge. I have no idea what to do towards purge

[glacial abyss]

surge is fun

i like surge with crit it clears hordes like nobodys business

[summer wind]

it's really hard for me to get into the game properly when as soon as i finally find something i like doing it gets patched out, and something completely different is how you play now

[burnt python]

crit thing is ap plying to zealot flamer as well

[night marten]

AB is good. 6 stacks are good. essence harvest is a viable alternative to quietitude, and psykinetic aura is a viable (possibly optimal) alternative to communion

not much else is different

[glacial abyss]

combine with brain burst proc and the soulfire f is crazy

[night marten]

still want kinetic deflection

[clear heath]

So everyone agrees surge staff is really painful to look at now right?

[glacial abyss]

i like it

[summer wind]

did that get broken too?

[lone canopy]

Agreed. It's hard enough to get items. Having to build differently doesn't add much enjoyment when it isn't even mentioned changes

[clear heath]

bro it flashes so much

[lone canopy]

Thank you!

[burnt python]

6 stacks is alright for bb breakpoitns but not worth running for AB boost imo

kinetic overload prob the choice now

[summer wind]

yeah i literally just got my staff set up for how things worked before

[high agate]

Its not worth playing rn.
Once all crafting is implemented theyll make some half assed attempts at balancing and then just say ‘yeah everythings in a good spot’ and never touch it again like verm

[clear heath]

Can feel the retina damage every time i try casting

I'm glad i don't have epilepsy problems

[summer wind]

honestly

i'm gonna play zealot or something

at least then it's not like i have to make a new weapon every week

[glacial abyss]

fake psyker.........

you have to trust in the plan

[burnt python]

ima just cosplay zealot as psyker

[glacial abyss]

fat shark is saving you guys right now you wouldnt get it

[bleak tulip]

what do you mean by this

[burnt python]

flame & axe

[lone canopy]

I have a zealot alt and it's quite a different experience playing her, although I REALLY enjoyed psyker and had my groove

[night marten]

maybe, though if someone switches off from AB they should definitely run quietitude

[bleak tulip]

surge still works the same its just a pain to look at now

[summer wind]

i wasn't using surge, i was using a purge which ignored crits because crits didn't matter from what i could tell

[burnt python]

i will probably try out 1-2-1-1-2-2 later

[summer wind]

and now apparently they're very very important

(potentially from a bug)

[clear heath]

If you guys ever feel jealous of your friend's eyesight, walk into a dark room with them and charge your surge staff. Remember to look away from the screen

[night marten]

KO and AB??

[burnt python]

yes

[buoyant mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zmphb8/they_actually_took_the_time_to_nerf_psykers/?sort=new

[night marten]

seems weird considering AB removes stacks, but I'll be interested in your feedback

[buoyant mantle]

seems like ppl on reddit are also in on the shit lol

[burnt python]

mixed horde, pop AB - lil chaff goes away and your warp charges insta refill and start overfilling on nearby surviving elites

[magic burrow]

I tried the six stacks ascendant blaze thing, but honestly even getting six stacks is a chore (mostly because Vets seem to think your brain burst aura is a "please shoot me" target), but even if you get to six stacks and manage to hold it and a horde arrives, you basically did a whole bunch of nonsense for a one click 30 second cooldown pox walker clearing effect. Looks cool, but an absolute waste of time that makes you feel like a fifth wheel to the party.

[night marten]

hmm yea it could work

[clear heath]

I got my friend to try using surge as well so i could see what it was like from a third person perspective
I decided i wouldn't try to protect him anymore because i didn't want to look in his direction

[tawny maple]

Quelling nerf just cost me a game cuz I couldnt quell in time to push the hound with the voidstrike. Thanks FS 😭

[glacial abyss]

i hate most redditors. theres only 10 redditors in this world that i like. everyone else is a chaos worshipper (not a tzeentch fan honestly)

[leaden pier]

what perks should i look for on fs?

[lone canopy]

lmfao

Oh noooo

[burnt python]

i'll play some damn tonight and report back

[lone canopy]

So I want to build crit chance with purge?

[summer wind]

now yeah

[night marten]

121112 is a great solo build, communion+AB with purge gives essence harvest lots of proc opportunities

[burnt python]

for now, yeah

[summer wind]

p a i n

[burnt python]

i only like running 6 warp charges w/ barrage personally

[celest oar]

until they slap pysker with more nerfs

[burnt python]

if im going in intending to bb the shit outta ogryns or w/e

[night marten]

fair enough, previously it's been nice to give the whole team considerable breathing room with a 6-stack F

[celest oar]

i might just take a break from darktide considering how the devs seems to think everyone else are idiots

[night marten]

but it's situational

[burnt python]

yooo psykinetics aura + ab might actually work now

if more shit is dying to soulfire for warp charges

[lone canopy]

buh this is the only purge staff I have rn

[clear heath]

I don't even care about getting psyker buffs anymore. I just want to be able to look at the screen with surge staff.
I am a broken man

[lone canopy]

Or well ignore the purple. It's blue.

[night marten]

actually... I'm gonna test real quick that purge direct damage doesn't proc AB 10% chance, again

[burnt python]

aura + AB would be so good if you can generate charges quick enough

[tardy flower]

Good thing you don't need to be able to see when surging

[celest oar]

surge belongs in the trashcan for now

[magic burrow]

how does purge hold up vs the zealot flamer

[bleak tulip]

idk man AB still seems shit to me

[burnt python]

much higher qol but worse

[burnt python]

it's a battery for kinetic overload and not much more imo

[night marten]

yea, still seems like purge direct damage doesn't give any charges from AB

[celest oar]

imagine if people got sent to the hospital for epilepsy and sue fatshark for "buffing" surge vfx

[summer wind]

it doesn't yeah

[clear heath]

wait does it no longer consume warp charges anymore?

[buoyant mantle]

yeah, it's shit on 4 or higher

[burnt python]

also ab/kinetic overload is probably trash on anything lower than damnation, you need max density for it to be good

[summer wind]

it's good against hordes

[bleak tulip]

like yeah the best part about it is that you get charges even faster, but do you really need that

[summer wind]

specifically, it's good if you sweep them with your purge staff and let the DOT do the work

[magic burrow]

but your honor, we have an epilepsy warning at the start. They cant sue us for causing seizures

[celest oar]

damn

[burnt python]

kinetic overload

[magic burrow]

kinetic overload so you can get the 100% peril lockout even faster

[clear heath]

Luckily you barely need to aim with surge staff so not being able to look at the screen can be played around

[summer wind]

the peril lock thing is so stupid

[burnt python]

overload has nothing to do w/ peril lol

[buoyant mantle]

honestly they need to buff 4 or higher stack's dot

[burnt python]

it appears they did

[magic burrow]

oh, its the other one then

[summer wind]

i have a question

[magic burrow]

all the Psyker feats sound the same

[summer wind]

why is the psyker flamer, the one using warp fire, that you need to build your entire character around

worse than the zealot's normal ass flamethrower

[buoyant mantle]

really hun

[summer wind]

which you can slap on any build and it works

[wary trout]

Ammo?

[buoyant mantle]

doubt

[summer wind]

i've used both extensively

[grizzled harness]

everything about the psyker is worse than the other classes

[hushed glade]

You’re locked out of quelling now?

[grizzled harness]

just wait for a rework

[burnt python]

hard to tell if they did or its just hte new crit effect influence, either way purge dot does more dmg now

[burnt python]

crits apply 2x stacks

[summer wind]

the zealot flamer has one downside and it's consuming ammo

which, like

ammo pickups are everywhere

[dusky lantern]

deflector should be a feat not a blessing

[summer wind]

it's insanely ammo effective too

[dusky lantern]

its too strong to be a blessing

[summer wind]

yeah agreed

[brave vale]

no changes to psyker

[light pilot]

Ideally it'd just be a thing you get

[brave vale]

love to see it

[night marten]

purge staff damage ramp was fixed per patch notes, and it seems like crits apply 2x stacks. combined you get much more damage from the staff

[summer wind]

psyker as a whole is so random

[quick bridge]

Guh

It got rid of my funny :(((

[night marten]

see my post above

[magic burrow]

mind in motion should be baseline not a feat

[burnt python]

i overlooked taht they actually mentioned it in patch notes

[patent hatch]

It’s great tho

[buoyant mantle]

well i meant they should buff the ult, not just the staff

[summer wind]

also hi tsar

[ebon jolt]

I would imagine it applies one stack but the damage of the stack is higher. Because if it applied 2 stacks than your maximum stack damage would remain constant.

[violet fossil]

worth going orange when i get the mats?

[quick bridge]

Hello Sock-Priest.

[patent hatch]

Defo

[shut thorn]

@celest oar try this macro, light->heavy->g->1->rmb->lmb->g->1

[burnt python]

thats possible, very hard to te st though. All i know is 1x crit stack does the same tick rate as 2x non-crit

[tardy flower]

I kinda want them to make an Ork version of Darktide so I can play a wierdboy

[bleak tulip]

am I dumb or does kinetic overload not work

[shut thorn]

utilizing switch cancel for the light heavy push combo saves you like 120~ ms

[burnt python]

is it triggering on an elite off screen?

[magic burrow]

I feel like crafting mats are fairly easy to get, so going orange is always worth it as long as you enjoy using that weapon

[burnt python]

idk what the radius is

[empty granite]

You have to kill an elite

[burnt python]

but it prioritizes elites

[violet fossil]

fingers crossed for a good 2nd blessing 8)

[bleak tulip]

oooo

okay

[celest oar]

DPS?

[night marten]

don't think so

[bleak tulip]

wait it doesnt say anything about elites

[burnt python]

you dont have to kill an elite you just have to gain a warp charge while at max charges

[empty granite]

Shit sorry

[eager nexus]

okay, I'm in love with the new Surge Staff animation. Feels more like lightning rather than bright strings that stun

[bleak tulip]

so then it just doesnt work?

[burnt python]

"nearby" is unclear tho it might be proccing on an elite you didnt look at in clip

it definitely worked before, i tested

[empty granite]

I keep thinking Wrack and Ruin

[bleak tulip]

I was standing right on a trash mob

[burnt python]

it may ONLY apply to elites and do nothing if no elites nearby

[bleak tulip]

so if that isnt "nearby" I dont know what is

[burnt python]

in which case, lol fatshark

[pine iris]

Say F for the emperor

[burnt python]

do the same test standing in the elite pack

[lethal plover]

is this trolling or real

[burnt python]

it worked a couple days ago

[buoyant mantle]

it only apply to 1

[tardy flower]

If there are no elites it goes on reg stuff

[buoyant mantle]

singular enemy

[celest oar]

oh its the light heavy push combo, i just use the lawnmower and call it a day xD

[pine iris]

reporting the rest of you as heretics

[night marten]

LOL

[shut thorn]

seems identical, other than having a wider sweep

[eager nexus]

Real? Is there something wrong with it?

[burnt python]

Yes i'm aware

[bleak tulip]

it... it only works on elites

that is

complete dogshit

[burnt python]

rofl

[clear heath]

lmao

[burnt python]

doesnt really change its usefullness tbh

[night marten]

@burnt python you're right. "nearby" is actually a huge range, and targets only elites

[summer wind]

what lol

[shut thorn]

nvm qq click is still better

[pine iris]

surge staff definitely switches back to quell from right click mode faster & less buggy now

[night marten]

@bleak tulip stand near the center and do it

[weary idol]

soul blaze talents stack exponentiall btw

[buoyant mantle]

AHAHAHAA

[summer wind]

why is psyker so buggy lol

[weary idol]

affecting the same enemy twice does over triple the damage

[summer wind]

is this a universal thing?

[eager nexus]

It "prioritizes" elites

[burnt python]

KO can surpass max burn stacks from staff, so if you're flaming a mixed horde in your face on damnation it'll kill the elites significantly faster assuming you gen enough warrp charges

[clear heath]

Why are you guys testing Kinetic Overload anyways? Did they buff soulblaze?

[burnt python]

yes

[night marten]

purge staff got a big buff

[clear heath]

oh neat

[summer wind]

not on purpose from what i saw, but maybe

[celest oar]

who needs light heavy, when i can just lawnmower

[fresh reef]

Does block efficiency work with peril block?

Pog, time to stack block efficiency curios and become immortal

[bleak tulip]

its worse than you though

I even put em all in one place

still only got one rager

[burnt python]

@night marten im not seeing mention of fixed purge dmg ramp

[lethal plover]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/surge-staff-new-visual-is-seizure-inducing/69023/29

[buoyant mantle]

they better keep this shit in for a while

[night marten]

look at the range that KO procs on the elite

[proven wedge]

How the fuck am i supposed to get the brain burst penance now?

[eager nexus]

okay, so the "nearby" is in reference to YOU and not your target.

[burnt python]

it applies 4 stacks, to 1 elite, per extra warp charge

[bleak tulip]

[eager nexus]

I just tested it.

[fresh reef]

Does anyone know what exactly the FS special buff was supposed to do?

[bleak tulip]

okay then explain my last video lmfao

[analog juniper]

make it look cooler

[eager nexus]

Stand near the poxwalkers and it will strike one near them. Stand in the elites and it will target them.

[clear heath]

What's wrong? It went on an elite like it said it would

[celest oar]

we dont need to be good at killing, just gotta look good while killing

[night marten]

maybe that rager was technically a tiny bit closer

[burnt python]

the idea is, on damnation specifically, you can generate a fuckton of extra warp charges due to horde density, and proc KO often

[bleak tulip]

just one at a time? that is not only terrible its also not at all what the perk says lmfao

[burnt python]

"a nearby enemy"

i dont see the confusion lmao

[clear heath]

"a" means 1

[analog juniper]

it's a trash feat though

[bleak tulip]

man they really mean a

[eager nexus]

Also, something to note, "nearby" means nearby to YOU and not the target.

[lethal plover]

It's what it says.

[bleak tulip]

that is the worst perk

[clear heath]

Yeah it sucks

[bleak tulip]

fair enough, but its completely shit

[burnt python]

if you play purge on damnation you are swimming in warp charges

and KO surpasses staff dot stack limit

[night marten]

communion, AB, and purge staff generate a ton of charges

[burnt python]

meaning the damage ramps HARD