psyker-class

[severe folio]

it needs to be mark 12 ?

[grave bobcat]

Yeah

[sick kindle]

My MG XII is a bit disgusting for damage.

Namely the blessings

[runic hornet]

Yes, but sometimes you need to get materials/melkcoin on your psyker, but you don't want to play heresy in your 4man because it's boring

[boreal condor]

Does Psykinetic's Aura also effect the user?

[severe folio]

its a lasgun

i see

[runic hornet]

bruh.wav

[severe folio]

why not autoguns

[heady shore]

give me that

[cyan notch]

yes that archtype does the most damage per shot

[lethal plover]

You can search for the reasoning. I don't repeat the whole thing here.
Basically peril block and BB opening up bulwarks and ignoring suppression

[jade geode]

The MKXII literally does everything the helbore is supposed to do, but better in every way. XD

[cyan notch]

you never run out of ammo either

[heady shore]

hellbore is just too unreliable

too annoying to get used to

[runic hornet]

yeah, lasgun vet has problems with bulwarks and crushers

[heady shore]

even if it can 1shot and 2 shot everything

[gray island]

making hard choices

[runic hornet]

and the counterfire ult is not important for hitting headshot breakpoints, I guess

[heady shore]

go for toughness

block eff w/ rapier gud

[runic hornet]

so if you think you're a headshot pro, just get every headshot in a rifle squad and you have a more relevant CC ult

[jade geode]

All the damage, but without the charge time.
Better ammo economy, bigger clip size, and oh yeah, a fuggin SCOPE >.>

[heady shore]

just dont get overheaded

[sick kindle]

Friendly reminder that semi-auto guns trigger Opening Salvo on every single shot. So that 13% extra power is technically permanent uptime.

[cyan notch]

no camo tho

[heady shore]

what.

[gray island]

as the main perk? thats what i want but im not rolling any worth anything alwasy like 15%

[heady shore]

no I meant of the two you posted

[sick kindle]

It's beautiful, it's mine and I'm perk rerolling the sprint efficiency when that launches today

[jade geode]

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

[runic hornet]

I swore there was a short delay

[severe folio]

the emperor gave me this gun

[runic hornet]

I guess not

[grave bobcat]

there eis balli

[runic hornet]

is the delay shorter than the Mg12's rate of fire? :V

[gray island]

gotcha. im not a fan of the block efficiency perk

[grave bobcat]

Slightly longer

So like by the time you aim next shot its rdy

[runic hornet]

nice

[jade geode]

🤤

[runic hornet]

man I remember when I recced mg12 psyker in here like a week and a half ago

[jade geode]

I have a new goal for my MK12 baby

[runic hornet]

I got legit flamed and blocked like three people

now i have people telling me "gun psyker scales to damnation, actually"

funny how the tide turns

[normal talon]

hey

[jade geode]

lol

[normal talon]

as long as it works

[heady shore]

don't' fix what isn't broken

give us back bleed force push

[sick kindle]

I don't need other people to validate what I use as a competitive option, because I know deep down in my soul I'm an operative capable of Exteriminatus. I can make a toothpick deadly if I wanted to.

[runic hornet]

now it's time for me to evangelize wound curios

[severe folio]

bruh

[heady shore]

1 wound or 0 wound is my go to

[severe folio]

on my zealot shop

[sick kindle]

And I have. That's effectively what the DS is 😂

[heady shore]

nice roll bro

[runic hornet]

god oll

keep it foever

[severe folio]

cant buy it

not enough rank

[lethal plover]

operative capable of Exterminatus
I can see smell the edge all the way from here

[runic hornet]

yu can buy it

regardless of your current rank

[severe folio]

oh really

[jade geode]

Yup

[runic hornet]

yeah

[severe folio]

damn i should have known

[runic hornet]

it's a minor thing

[jade geode]

Just won't be able to use it until then

[severe folio]

i dont have enough cash though

[sick kindle]

Good. My psyker wears all grey and the shop grey.

[runic hornet]

lol

the bigger problem

[severe folio]

yeah

also why do the shop have to cycle every hour

its not a server shop

[boreal condor]

Does Psykinetic's Aura and the base Coherency Aura also effect the user?

[severe folio]

why cant they let us refresh the shop ourselves

or manage it ourselves

[small hornet]

To keep us coming back

[runic hornet]

holy emperor you have no idea how much I wish this staff's charge rate and warp resistance were flipped

[lethal plover]

Impossible. You cracked the code

[runic hornet]

the difference betwen 64 and 80 charge rate

is 1.54 to 1.31, which is non-trivial

[severe folio]

sharkloan tactic

[runic hornet]

and I already overcap perils on the small->big->big combo to 100 anyway

[severe folio]

i have a quick question regarding leveling

[small hornet]

nobody is forcing you to spend your in-game currency

[lethal plover]

Fat sharkloan

[severe folio]

how should you queue to level

[jade geode]

I have a pretty good roll on a trauma tucked away, waiting for them to buff that staff to not be hot garbage.

[severe folio]

like difficulty scale etc

[heady shore]

q 2 and 3 till you 30

[lethal plover]

10 for malice, 25 for heresy

[runic hornet]

two schools of thought

1. geta group to carry you through the hardest difficulty they can, which will be malice as soon as its avilable and heresy soon after

[severe folio]

oh

[runic hornet]

2. get a KNOIFE/dueling sword and slidetech your way through sedition missions at lightning speed

[severe folio]

i dont have that

[runic hornet]

You can reliably clear some of the missions in 10-12 minutes

[severe folio]

i dont have any of that lol

[small hornet]

1- Lvl 1-4
2- Lvl 2-7
3- Lvl 8-20
4- Lvl 20-30
5- Lvl 27-30

With randos

[sick kindle]

Word. I buy all the things I like that a simple stat buff could solve.

[small hornet]

If you're random queuing

[severe folio]

thanks

[small hornet]

you ever do 3 or 4

[jade geode]

"KNOIFE" 🤣🤣🤣

[small hornet]

But just know

[heady shore]

no.

[small hornet]

You won't always win

[lethal plover]

Speedrunning missions with no challenge has the well known side effect of making you hate the game and quitting it

[runic hornet]

when will they fix dog netcode

Once they fix dog netcode I will be unstoppable

until then I will just randomly die to dogs

[small hornet]

I mean, it worked for me, I aim for consistent winning

[runic hornet]

ultimately just play the game and have fun

if you actually like the game, you'll stick with it and you'll be 30x4 before you know it

[severe folio]

anyone wanna carry me lol

[runic hornet]

that being said I slide-teched my way through 25 missions to get melkcoin to buy a godroll

[manic halo]

attention fellow psykers, make sure to channel the idea of psyker buffs into the warp today. So that we may get them in the real world

[manic halo]

what country are u

[grave bobcat]

What're you doing ices

[runic hornet]

in a single evening

[grave bobcat]

im bored

[severe folio]

im

im leveling zealot

[manic halo]

ill play with ya depending on country or whatever

[grave bobcat]

I'm currently playing Psylot rn so that works 🥲

[manic halo]

most places are racist against my aussie net and kick me instantly

[grave bobcat]

As is tradition with OCE

[manic halo]

i cry

cause its true

also shop refresh soon surelyyyy we I will get a god roll

right???!!

[severe folio]

and uhh

im in australia

for now

[manic halo]

[grave bobcat]

lol

[severe folio]

next week i have to return to my country

which is vietnam

[manic halo]

i will game with u if you want

[severe folio]

youll carry my level 2 zealot in heretic ?

[manic halo]

yus

[severe folio]

now ?

[manic halo]

yus

https://tenor.com/bJqvr.gif

[severe folio]

suspicious deal

what do you get

[manic halo]

[sick kindle]

Fun and clout

[runic hornet]

okay

[manic halo]

we will get their when we get there

[runic hornet]

something is fuckywucky with the targeting range

[severe folio]

okay

im in game right now

[cyan notch]

@grave bobcat whats ur steam code

[manic halo]

@severe folio ill send u my code

[grave bobcat]

77118793

[runic hornet]

I'm dealing 416 to crushers and only 280 to infested with the pieplate now

[manic halo]

gimme a second to remeber how to find it

[runic hornet]

of trauma

[severe folio]

250620981

[manic halo]

sent

[cyan notch]

416 fully charged?

[runic hornet]

As in I can't oneshot poxwalkers with a full trauma charge

which doesn't match up to what I do in a real game

i'm confused

[runic hornet]

yes

[severe folio]

the trauma staff is bugged right now isnt it ?

[runic hornet]

416 to reapers and bulwarks too

[severe folio]

deals only half damage of what it written

[cyan notch]

that is pathetically garbage

[manic halo]

did u get it ice

[runic hornet]

i was just trying to get damage numbers

but for some reason in this instance of the firing range

I stopped being able to onehit poxwalkers

[severe folio]

yeah i got it

[runic hornet]

when I know I can do it ingame

[severe folio]

i accepted it

[manic halo]

epic

can u invite me

[runic hornet]

and i'm doing MORE damage to certain targets than the listed damage (376)

[severe folio]

i joined your strike team

[manic halo]

epic

[grave bobcat]

@cyan notch Wat we odin

doin*

[manic halo]

u can chose the missions @severe folio

[sick kindle]

How to transfer blessings to Voidstrike staff? 🤔

[runic hornet]

melee scab takes 378

which is correct

[severe folio]

i cant actually

cant pick heretic lol

[runic hornet]

but unyielding/carapace is taking more

and poxwalkers are taking less, and notably aren't being oneshotted

[cyan notch]

afk eating rn tbh lol just adding to play in the future

[grave bobcat]

Ah fair

[manic halo]

oh

ill do it then for ya?

[severe folio]

yeah

[manic halo]

wait heratic? do you mean herasy

[severe folio]

oh

yeah heresy

[manic halo]

ok

will do boss

[cyan notch]

yea heretic is a midship remake

[severe folio]

in 2022 time worth more than money

[runic hornet]

wait, the limbsplitter talent on my axe is broke ntoo

why is the range so fucking scuffed

[manic halo]

Get a new axe duh

[vague ridge]

are there sniper rifles for vet?

[severe folio]

do you wanna vc ?

@grave bobcat do you want to join us ?

[manic halo]

Sure

[grave bobcat]

Ping would be wayy too high

to be reasonable

[runic hornet]

limbsplitter is not falling off LMAO

[grave bobcat]

Or I would

[zinc ether]

[severe folio]

oof

[runic hornet]

it's just a pure 20% power in the range

ffs can't trust anything

[jade geode]

Maybe ask in #veteran-class ? lel

[manic halo]

do we just go into the strike team channel

u pick it if we do

[severe folio]

yeah i join the 28

[ashen flame]

anyone got any tips for pick and miz?

mix*

[cyan notch]

kinetic barrage and hi intensity malice

[ashen flame]

isnt it heresy and higher?

[runic hornet]

yep, has to be heresy

[cyan notch]

yes that

[runic hornet]

just do heresy hi intensity, stand on top of boxes a lot (good habit, anyway)

when you hear a special strike coming try to get 1-2 elites at the same time

from the next pull

if you have to overpull for it... toxic penace, lmao

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/LGotmSP9wSxko/d1337nOI8Xn3?invite=cr-MSxSTGIsNDg2MDU3NTUs

[ashen flame]

do specials count?

[runic hornet]

yes, you have to kill 5 unique taggables basically

[ashen flame]

omg that makes things SO much easier

[severe folio]

first heresy run

[ashen flame]

i thought it was only elites

[severe folio]

died

going down a notch

[raw breach]

elites = specials

[runic hornet]

in this clip I go bulwark, burster, flmaer (damaged by my team), reaper, bomber

[burnt hemlock]

What do we think off this Orange staff? Is the crit blessing any good or do you want an other one? ANd for the "Weak spot" perk does the lightning deal weakspot damage?

[ashen flame]

suppress is useless trait on surge

[runic hornet]

bad quell speed, I personally would not use melkcoin on it

quell speed is a really important stat

even if it's just quelling 100% from 3x BB to get 50% of your toughness back

[raw breach]

This game is written by Swedish devs in English for a reason. Terminology must be vague and interchangeable on a whim.

[runic hornet]

your current staff is close enough to the melkcoin one that I would not buy the melkcoin one

[ashen flame]

but terrifying barrage is such a wasted blessing on a surge staff

[runic hornet]

the stats are not significantly better, the perks are just as worthless. You're basicaly just adding warp nexus which... is noticeable, but not worth your week's melkcoin

[raw breach]

Warp Nexus is mandatory for damage output, Terrifying Barrage isn't bad

[burnt hemlock]

Oki doki :)) I have a few other surge staffs that are better if terrifying barrage sucks on surge staff

[runic hornet]

if the gold staff had two good +20 perks, i would buy it in a heratbeat

but it has two bad perks

so, no

[burnt hemlock]

What perks do i want on surge?

Crit chance and some damage?

[runic hornet]

+flak is the single most important roll

[ashen flame]

damage to unarmoured is always good

[runic hornet]

absolutely not on surge

[raw breach]

Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry/Focused Channeling/Terrifying Barrage

[runic hornet]

you are not supposed to be using surge staff on unarmored/infested enemies for dps

every time I see a pub psyker spamming surge into poxwalkers I want to die

your sword deals way more damage

[burnt hemlock]

Hahahahha, so true

[ashen flame]

its more about cc than damage

[runic hornet]

Your sword and pushes are better CC

against pure poxwalkers

sure if you see some elites coming through the trash, pleas surge them

but you do not need to stand back and dsurge pure poxwalkers

get in there

[ashen flame]

hmm I found on damnation that it helps to constantly disable everything

[burnt hemlock]

What do with think about the "Blazing spirits" Blessing?

[raw breach]

You stagger the front line and control the entire horde, if i'm using my SUrge instead of my axe for a horde, there's a reason for it

[burnt hemlock]

It is not for surge as far as i know, but for other staffs

[runic hornet]

if your teammates are having trouble with pure poxwalker control and are taking damage from them on damnation, you need new damnation teammates
pure poxwalkers are "please kill these as fast as possible so we can continue with the mission"

[sick kindle]

So if terrifying barrage is worth using, does this mean this staff is worth using until rolling something better?

[runic hornet]

terrifying barrage is fine on void

it's just really, really meh on surge

because surge has a tendency to already stun nearby enemies anyway

if you are surge-spamming a scab squad they are all doing the wiggle dance already

[burnt hemlock]

Transfer peril is pretty dope tho!

[sick kindle]

Yeah, I just consider Transfer Peril to be mandatory on Void, but I was kinda 'eh' on that until I heard other takes.

[runic hornet]

you don't NEED a suppress-on-kill blessing on top of that

There are some weird niches where you might actually proc the suppress on surge and have it be worth something, but it's not to the point where I'd say you would deliberately add it

[tired turtle]

What are the best perks and blessings on surge?

[ashen flame]

used to be blazing spirit

but they got rid of that on surge

[runic hornet]

+flak and then +maniacs
Blessings, warp nexus and then it's mostly w/e

[raw breach]

It's not completely useless. It's stop mobs from blindsiding me and lets me swap between my axe and staff in near melee range without taking hits

[sick kindle]

No fun allowed! Stop that!

[runic hornet]

yeah, but you have to score a kill

[ashen flame]

too much particle effect HAHA

[ashen flame]

the GPU killer

[runic hornet]

so you're casting surge staff and getting a kill (so probably on a scab) and then... you complain you get hit while swapping to your axe? you can block instantly, what's the problem

the situation i can see is that you are casting at a rager or something and you kill a melee scab instead, and it happens to suppress a rifle scab that is very close by too who dodged the ligthning chain

[sick kindle]

So I think what I want out of Voidstrike is uninterruptable secondary and transfer quell, but I'll deffo give terrifying barrage a shot

[ashen flame]

warp nexus/warp flurry is good if u do animation cancel

[runic hornet]

that's undeniably value, anything that keeps you from getting shot is valuable, but it'll not be so common that I'd say to spend melkcoin on a staff just to get terrifying barrage

[burnt hemlock]

How big is you guys inventory with weapons that suck,n

but they have good blessings and you are waiting fro crafting system^^

[raw breach]

Every weapon i've ever gotten that isn't a <350 white item

[runic hornet]

I have infinite dockets at this point

so my invnetory is very big since I just buy anything hat looks even remotely interesting

[raw breach]

like I have a white 380 mk5 ripper gun on my Ogryn just because I saw it in the shop

[celest oar]

it takes me about a minute to scroll through my inventory on just melee

[sick kindle]

I treat my inventory like emergency dockets incase something hot comes out

[broken fjord]

I recycle everything in invetory except what I use in that moment

[burnt hemlock]

I have a vage memory that Fatshark wanted teased Blessings with lvl 5. Do we know anything more about that? Or is it BS.

[river crest]

30-40 of each

[grave bobcat]

My Force Sword Graveyard

Warriors who died to get Deflector

RIP

[fading shoal]

Deflector activates when wielding power sword or need to be in the blocking stance with the sword?

[grave bobcat]

blocking

[fading shoal]

damn

[frigid marten]

It means is active when you ress

[grave bobcat]

Thatt too

[frigid marten]

The big advantage of deflector is becoming the best at ressing

[fading shoal]

Ressing?

[grave bobcat]

yeah

you can block bullets as waell as melee

onr ess now

[frigid marten]

“Helping captured and downed rejects”

[fading shoal]

Oh rescuing/reviving

[frigid marten]

Can save a run

[fading shoal]

yeah

[candid hawk]

does crit chance do anything for purg?

[grave bobcat]

Its only only ressing

[river sand]

it lets it crit more often

[grave bobcat]

But it works with ress rtoo

[candid hawk]

yeah but the damasge on purg is so low does crit actually matter lol

[river sand]

but purg hits are like 20dmg so who cares, damage comes from burn and that cant crit

[sick kindle]

Probably going to use this incase slide zoomies ever get nerfed.

[fading shoal]

Saw a lucky psyker with deflector who rescued me before

[grave bobcat]

mhm

You're REALLY hard to stop

at that point

[fading shoal]

Deflector blocks attacks from all sides?

[candid hawk]

block ranged attacks

[fading shoal]

Only in the front?

[sick kindle]

I'm not really sure how the perk works when you're reviving someone but it FEELS like it's all around

[sick kindle]

Definitely a cone when you aren't though

[light belfry]

what do you guys think is the best dueling sword?

variant wise

[sick kindle]

TFW force sword only half sprint speed of DS. 😭

I'm too addicted to s p e e d

Wait wtf how long has this been sitting in my inv? 👀

[sick kindle]

Holy shit I think I might like this knife more than DS

[ornate hamlet]

idk why but everyone hates on the Dueling Sword and I feel like its almost on par with the power sword of the vet 💀

[sick kindle]

FR, like the optimal way to deal with armor on psyker is to switch to your melee in the first place? Like hell no, I treat it like CS GO. Switch to the knife to move faster and GTFO 😂

[grave bobcat]

My confusion is why DS

[sick kindle]

It's just a big dagger

[ornate hamlet]

I switch to headpop and just dodge when crushers or sum sht come

[grave bobcat]

Instead of sday, knife,

Or FS

[sick kindle]

That's all DS is

[fading shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-gif-20361267

[sick kindle]

Space pirate wizard swag dagger

Swashbuckling your way through heresy

[fading shoal]

A wizard of a different sort

[ornate hamlet]

force sword is great but the peril cooldown doesnt get the speed boost from using smth that ain force/warp/anything

[cyan notch]

did melk always sell 5 items? or is it random

[fading shoal]

5 random items each day

[grave bobcat]

Maybe `1 day

I'll have a dagger

[cyan notch]

i swear he only sold 4 previously

[ornate hamlet]

same

after 10 hours of Psyker, playin Vet feels like cosplaying as god lmao

[sick kindle]

So I tried it. Dagger has slower zoomy power slides but significantly better horde cleave

[tranquil fiber]

yeah I was thinking that as well.

[runic hornet]

Versus, what, DS?

[sick kindle]

yeeee

[runic hornet]

Are you serious, because I 100% feel better with my DS lights than knife lights

[tranquil fiber]

Duelling sword just isn't good

[runic hornet]

Knife lights are janky and too fast and there's a weird stab in the middle

[tranquil fiber]

right now

it seems really bugged

[runic hornet]

One of the DS archetypes has double-downward diagonal lights in a loop

And I just whack heads with it

[sick kindle]

Depends on the mk. For the V? Yes, the four with cleave stat instead of defence? Haven't tested

[runic hornet]

Knife feels... weird, there's a weird underhand that's fucked up

[tranquil fiber]

for some reason, a duelling sword I have does 1k damage per special attack on a Mutant

but does 100-200 to everything else.

[runic hornet]

specials take massive bonus melee damage

It's to make meleeing them a high-risk high reward playstyle versus merely shooting them

that's why when a dog or mutant has your teammate pinned and you're like 3-5 meters out, the correct play is to slide in and melee it

rather than just standing at a distance and furiously shooting it

[tranquil fiber]

yeah I agree

[runic hornet]

every time a dog/mutant happens and I see the veteran take all this sweet time pulling out his bolter before shooting it 3 seconds later, he could have just gone in with his power sword that he already had out

mutie would literally be dead by the ime he finishes pulling out his bolter

[tranquil fiber]

and I get that much but the special interaction on Duelling sword, was only doing 1k damage to the mutant and not the other specials.

[sick kindle]

This is a good thing, because if people ever found out what happens when you use power sword optimally then it'd ge tnerfed much faster

[cyan notch]

tried to push a dog off teammate turns out u cant

[tranquil fiber]

There was increased damage being applied but the number for that was considerably a lot. Fives times more.

It might suggest Dueling Thrust attack might have armour piercing properties but its not consistent with applying it.

[drowsy fog]

I have decided to simply grab any weapon I see with a base of 350 or greater, or greater than the one of said weapon I already have

[tranquil fiber]

Right now, other than aesthetic reasons, it doesn't seem worth choosing it over Force Sword or the Axes right now

which is unfortunate.

[drowsy fog]

Chain sword feels good too

[sick kindle]

Oh hey, a MK IV that I can test

If that cleave stat doesn't nerf the slides then this is probably going to be my wep of choice

[tranquil fiber]

for speed running?

or just movement speed adrenaline reasons?

[sick kindle]

I really don't get some people's hardons for anti armor being in their melee slot. I just feel like there's better things you could be doing with your time spent trying to Zealot a crusher and bulwark, like melting horde or staggering them with BB instead

I'd much rather the playstyle of mobility, which I feel some people do not appreciate just how MUCH going fast can prevent damage

It is absolutely nuts that I can go the speed of a zealot charge at all times

[tranquil fiber]

If you want speed and survivablity the dagger build with the Zealot is better suited for that.

[drowsy fog]

Speed isn't really my style 🤷‍♀️

[sick kindle]

It's a viable playstyle and it's weird that DS is seen as an inferior option rather than the sidegrade it is. You lose deflector but can get in and out of situations far more quickly.

[tranquil fiber]

it's not that

[sick kindle]

That's the whole point of the weapon.

[tranquil fiber]

its chip damage for horde clearing in heresy and above

it doesn't deal with Specials and Elites well either

yes you move fast

[primal aurora]

which weapons are fastest in terms of running?

[tranquil fiber]

but the way the game is designed you're not supposed to Kite mobs forever like you can in VT2 or other Zombie Horde games

you can try but the system is designed to work and punish against that

[grave bobcat]

Base ms running both DS and dagger give the same bonus speed

[tranquil fiber]

so you'll be climbing up hill, which you can get really good at, but why?

[grave bobcat]

So whichever mobility ios higher

[sick kindle]

The slide tech is faster on DS than on Dagger. I think the lunge bonus is slightly higher.

[tranquil fiber]

but that being said if you do want that - Zealot is better for that on all classes.

[sick kindle]

And I tested with an 80 mob dagger and rapier

[grave bobcat]

I shwoed you yesterday

Its the same speed with heavy

[tranquil fiber]

yes but thats the dagger making it feel good not the class.

[grave bobcat]

I didnt learn the light slide though

cba

[cyan notch]

theres nothing to learn just slide when you swing

[tranquil fiber]

nothing im saying is the play style is bad

Playstyle is king

doing it on a Psyker just doesn't seem optimal

[grave bobcat]

Light swing hapepens very quickly, now chain 15 of them together.

[drowsy fog]

Ds is speedy and stylish both but it's actual contribution to putting the enemy down isn't as good.
Fs gets deflector and is only a little better at horde clearing but also really good at bursting down priority targets
Cs has decent horde clear and priority targets
Axe is apparently the horde tanking king but axes stinky so idc

[tranquil fiber]

vs other options.

Like if you're doing it for just to have BB or DS

[grave bobcat]

And while I've never used DS I agree with Dretch's points htough when I've seen it in atction

[sick kindle]

'Really good at bursting priority targets'. Three FS charges vs my two DS heavies on muties begs to differ

[tranquil fiber]

ehhhh again playstyle thing

[sick kindle]

Mind that's damnation.

You can two shot headshot a mutie's weakpoint with a high DMG rapier

And it flies out faster than that charge

[grave bobcat]

k mutie weakpoint

[tranquil fiber]

that's because DS is doing 1k damage to muties

that muties

what about the 10+ other specials.

which are more common than muties.

[grave bobcat]

Dunno about the DS, but Dagger melts all but the Crusher

[sick kindle]

If you're flicking out a melee weapon on your psyker, it's not because it's your first option to engage the enemy but because you're getting pressure from them.

You aren't a zealot

[grave bobcat]

Uhh

🙂

Rude I'm righjt here bro

[drowsy fog]

Nah it's because there's a rager right there and fs special killing them is faster than blasting my purge at em for a bit

[grave bobcat]

I've been trying to Damnation high int but while I dont' struggle team just eventualyl gets overwhelmed 😦

[sick kindle]

You will always be getting more value with your team with staff casts than you are your melee weapon except in situations where pressure is being put on your team.

In a vacuum, you're right. FS is better. If the other options on psyker didn't exist

[tranquil fiber]

Honestly wouldn't want FS if I'm under pressure

[wise pecan]

I think it varies? The trapper seems to take significantly reduced melee damage

[sick kindle]

So the idea that you're just. Hunting down specials to kill them with melee is ludicrous and not a real world scenario, sorry

[tranquil fiber]

I'd want an Axe or Chainsword

[grave bobcat]

It's really good horde clear with the Slaughterer blessing

[sick kindle]

ESP not in damnation

[grave bobcat]

otherwise, not so much

[drowsy fog]

When did I say I was hunting anything down

[tranquil fiber]

Axe is more consistent and deals with Flak enemies better than most weapons

[drowsy fog]

Feels like you came here looking to argue

[tranquil fiber]

Dagger is good when you have bleed on it

[grave bobcat]

No

Only if you're Zealot

But we're not.

So just no

[tranquil fiber]

Psykers are a bit too squishy for melee focusing... kit is not designed for it.
It's designed to juggle warp charges and use a force weapon

[grave bobcat]

there isn't a point to be made either jsut flat no as someone who uses it alot ll

Also no

If you're taking damage from melee enemies

[paper trail]

with peril block we aren't that squishy

[grave bobcat]

also onyou.

[sick kindle]

Holy shit, the MK IV moves just as fast. No defence stat required. 👀

[grave bobcat]

I'm currently playing Melee only Psyker and Kyrnish saw me play a whole game with 0 hp lost.

[tranquil fiber]

yes Dagger and DS have highest mobility for melee

[tranquil fiber]

check out the stationary dodge distance

[grave bobcat]

If you get damaged by melee its on you

[sick kindle]

Yeah I know the DEF stat boosts that but I mean just the raw slide tech. I thought it would slow it down, but it doesnt

Mind I'm comparing the MK IV and V

[drowsy fog]

Nooooo it's totally the ogryns fault for not babysitting me!

[grave bobcat]

Dretch whats your single target dps like on DS vs ragers

I don't have a good DS to make a valid test 🥲

[tranquil fiber]

I can tell you heavy attacks its under 300

[grave bobcat]

As ingle hit

Nice

What if he hits 10 times per second?

Like, dps is the important stat... Not a single hit of damage.

[wise pecan]

I am reasonably certain that no weapon swings 10 times per second

[sick kindle]

524-546 ish, not counting kin flayer procs obviously. So about a fair 3-4 charged heavy weakpoints. All on damnation. Gunna test my FS too

[grave bobcat]

No shit sherlock

In case anybody didn't know

[sick kindle]

Spam charging my fs strike charge on ragers? 354

[grave bobcat]

That your fastest damage?

[onyx sentinel]

How likely is it that they're going to make brain burst scale with your equipment

[sick kindle]

I'm using the best controls that I have but not everything is one to one, but yes. I'd say the minutia in dmg stats/blessings makes them comparable options

[onyx sentinel]

I see it being suggested around but I'm pretty sure they just want to make it scale off of wrap charges

[grave bobcat]

lmao the only DS In my inventory

is this

it'll do

[wise pecan]

Not very. Fatshark’s stance on psyker seems to be that it’s fine

[tranquil fiber]

would be nice

[onyx sentinel]

Yeap kinda sucks though, I feel so useless against elites on heresy+

[sick kindle]

The game is primarily designed with malice in mind. The majority of the dev team weren't even able to clear Damnation so my hopes aren't very high to see stat tuning for it.

[wise pecan]

Yeah I rarely use BB

[grave bobcat]

Ah DS is just well rounded

[tranquil fiber]

Jack of all but master of none.

[grave bobcat]

tbh it really is just like a long ass dagger

less damageb ut you can at least hit multiple

[tranquil fiber]

however you don't wanna be using it on a Carapace enemy

like ever.

unless you're hoping for a BB proc

well ideally don't wanna be using it on Ogryns

[grave bobcat]

With maulers I just don't aim at their head, but like dagger I guess Crusher is just annoying

Nah I can see it being fine on others

Especially if my DS has some kind ofcrit mod

[tranquil fiber]

Well this is where Dagger bypasses cause you can keep up lacerate stacks

[grave bobcat]

Literally

if you think bleding is gvood

you're stupid

full stop

[tranquil fiber]

It's something

vs

nothing.

[grave bobcat]

We're not Zealot

[wise pecan]

Isn’t crusher massively resistant to DoTs?

[grave bobcat]

No, you get crit mods for it

[tranquil fiber]

no one said that

thats your assumption

[grave bobcat]

I dont' want some pathetic 7 DoT

[tranquil fiber]

We're talking the Weapon.

[grave bobcat]

When I could have the actual hit be higher

[tranquil fiber]

and its options + properties

[sick kindle]

Yeah I'm glad I tested the MK IV I had. I think I'm happier with it.

[tranquil fiber]

Ideally looking at melee options for Psyker is secondary importance.

its just something to keep the pressure off

[sick kindle]

Block efficiency on a rapier though is premium meme. Might even be able to infini block two demon hosts, not just one

[grave bobcat]

1 sec I will put 20 stacks of bleed on the crusher

[tranquil fiber]

and there are options that people can use

[wise pecan]

Against crushers, if you have a dagger and purgatus you just have to brain burst them

[tranquil fiber]

ultimately for Zealots and daggers you want lacerate and haymaker

[wise pecan]

Why rapier specifically?

[tranquil fiber]

so lacerate procs the insta kill

[sick kindle]

It's passive peril venting is higher. Not all melee weapons have the same value for it.

[tranquil fiber]

other than that lacerate daggers isn't a high kill intensive build anyway

its just weakening stuff for your team mates to kill

soft tanking I suppose

[grave bobcat]

The base dagger..

Can kill them

[tight saddle]

why does the mkiv ds heavy 2 do more damage than heavy 1

[grave bobcat]

anyway 1 sec

[wise pecan]

Huh, I thought all non-Force weapons passive vented the same

[paper trail]

the only good thing I can see about bleed is that you can basically just stab a bulwarks shield and the ticks actually do pretty good damage not like soulfire

[sick kindle]

Nope

[tight saddle]

you would think the STAB would do more

why is the Vanguard attack doing more damage than the Strikedown on the mkiv dueling sword lol

this whole game is a meme

[tranquil fiber]

The stab does alright damage on Dagger

[grave bobcat]

Grinder bugged -.

[tranquil fiber]

its just in a real scenario its not ideal to heavy stab spam

[grave bobcat]

??????

[tranquil fiber]

what happened?

[grave bobcat]

SO first 20 stacks of bleed on crushe

[sick kindle]

Sure it is, just weave in pushes. I mean what else are you going to do with your stamina. Blocking doesn't take it anymore.

[tight saddle]

@grave bobcat this is is unfortunately my best dagger, all I want is to zoom

[paper trail]

thats weird bleed does more damage to the reaper and bulwark than other mobs

[grave bobcat]

they are dissipating

Before I can renew the stack

this took me waht 15 seconds?

Bleed pog

[tranquil fiber]

It's not for dps loool

its for weakening

its not good at killing

[grave bobcat]

WHAT IS IT WEAKENIGN?

LOL

[sterile sable]

low dps

[grave bobcat]

SO many other blessing

Apply a way bigger benfit

[tranquil fiber]

sec

[paper trail]

yeah bleed sucks actually

[tranquil fiber]

put your socks on

[grave bobcat]

like

thats so fuckin dumb#

[tranquil fiber]

It's not lacerate alone

its that + haymaker

[grave bobcat]

And now if you draw it out into a perfect scenario

Where haymaker procs

[candid hawk]

hate me now then if yall like daggers

[grave bobcat]

you're just stupid cause heavy kills everything ffaster than waiting for the bleed to proc it -.

[tranquil fiber]

nah mate, you're completely dense

[wise pecan]

I believe the crusher specifically has massive resistance to all damage over time effects. It isn’t an accurate representation of bleed’s effectiveness (or lack thereof)

[grave bobcat]

not including crushers

[candid hawk]

tbh i just brain burt ogryn

i dont even bother with melee lol

[grave bobcat]

I'll do it on the bulwark next to him for parity I can agree with tthat

[tranquil fiber]

making this into such a big deal

its just one interaction

[grave bobcat]

Because it's fucking stupid lol

[tranquil fiber]

haven't said at all bleed is great

but drive your narrative

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I'm not tryign to drive through a wall

[tranquil fiber]

What I've pointed towards is the interaction between bleed + haymaker is what makes it okay and alright dps because it procs the instakill.

[grave bobcat]

My odds significantly increase of proccing haymaker if I use bleed guys

[tranquil fiber]

but earlier I said

[grave bobcat]

snot

lol

[tranquil fiber]

for Psyker - is that I'd go Axe and Chainsaw - FS if I must.

[grave bobcat]

Then you also said using heavy swing?

Isbad 😄

[tranquil fiber]

and its a build mostly if not only for Zealot.

[grave bobcat]

Ok yup

Keep backing up

[frank hawk]

I really hope that the Psyker will be reworked a bit, because in this form it is the least fun of all 4 classes

[tranquil fiber]

I don't need to. It's in the post here

[grave bobcat]

YOu can maybe make a different turn

That you passed earlier

Also fish

[tranquil fiber]

but you are driving your narrative that ANYONE who thinks remotely good is stupid.

[grave bobcat]

I can't apply 20 stacks

[tight saddle]

wdym it's the most fun of all 4

[grave bobcat]

before I kill them

[tranquil fiber]

You're just being dense and moronic about this than reading and being civil

[grave bobcat]

I think its funny lol

[tranquil fiber]

Sure, so laugh

don't bring me into your salt

[wise pecan]

Force Sword is growing on me. Folks said a while back that the push wasn’t really better than any other melee weapons, but weaving in basic shoves into an attack rotation almost makes me feel like I’m on ogryn. Dudes get knocked fully on their ass rather than just stumbling back a lil bit

[grave bobcat]

I am while trying to explain this to you

[cyan notch]

the push is great

[tranquil fiber]

you're explaining to something that I don't disagree with you on

[grave bobcat]

I'll bring the coloured shapes next time for some more familiarity in my descriptions

[tranquil fiber]

dagger bleed it sucks,

[grave bobcat]

But

However

I no longer care

[tranquil fiber]

so shut up then

move on

[grave bobcat]

Cause I found a game

[paper trail]

I mean i think this whole conversation started with, dagger is good because you can stack bleed

[grave bobcat]

Move on 😠

[raw breach]

ehhh... thoughts?

[paper trail]

but I am not really part of it

[wise pecan]

He’s way too salty for that lol

[tranquil fiber]

Just an idiot looking for laughs

w/e

[grave bobcat]

Comedy withdrawn

[sick fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295647670712795137/1032785281834831952/gura2.webm

[wise pecan]

Blessings are great, damage and blast are a bit small, but high quell speed and charge rate are good. Overall, I’d say it’s a worthwhile pickup

[shut sleet]

this whole discord must be purged, dumb trolls everywhere

[tranquil fiber]

I normally get on with you Calcium and agree on a lot of your points but w/e man I don't need your salt

[grave bobcat]

👍

[paper trail]

I personally do not see the point of barrage on most staffs myself as a blessing it generally baffles me

[raw breach]

Not really what I wanted for that 2nd blessing... Would have taken warp nexus, focused channeling, maybe even warp flurry... I had another void staff with TB on it that I didn't upgrade lol

[sick kindle]

The close range requirement is what makes me go 'wtf why?'. The effect should spread out from where the weakpoint kill happened from

[tight saddle]

that's funny lmfao

[wise pecan]

Suppression works on melee enemies, and functionally stuns them. Enemies being a bit spread out and rushing you is voidstrike’s chief weakness, so suppression on close range kills makes you less vulnerable and let’s you spam easier

[sick kindle]

Oooooo i seeeee

[paper trail]

Switch to melee then

[wise pecan]

But then you can’t spam the horde

[paper trail]

peril block and have a nap

[sick fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822733327206973460/1052497961717874718/when-you-are-in-walmart-and-you-hear-this-memes-funny-walmart-christmas-ytshorts.savetube.me.mp4

[paper trail]

I personally feel that with voidstrike I want pure damage perks stacked as high as I could get them but I have still to be lucky enoug to get that

[broken fjord]

megatroll hahahaha

[sick kindle]

My sibling of the warp. Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that the time it takes to throw off a voidstrike cast has higher kill potential than melee?

[paper trail]

this super rare Surge perk with a crit perk and crit blessing would be really nice to test

[grave bobcat]

Depends howl ong the hallway is

lmao

[sick kindle]

There is an opportunity cost to using melee when there's a perfectly good opportunity to throw out a staff use

[wise pecan]

Exactly

[sick fulcrum]

hey man i got hit with it im just paying it forward

[tight saddle]

that's why melee staff is the best psyker playstyle

[sick kindle]

Or they could just buff melee weapon lethality across the board and let us choose how we want to handle hordes.

[wise pecan]

Staff melee has a power that zealots wish they could imitate

[broken fjord]

I almost clicked the full screen thing

[sick kindle]

God I miss VT2 melee weapons. Even sienna's shit had more potential than what we have now

[broken fjord]

did my best

[paper trail]

I mean, the arguement was, if a perk that suppresses on close range kill is better to have on a staff in case you start getting swarmed by mobs that your staff will not efficiently kill in one staff use, versus just whipping your melee weapon out and having an actual damage perk on your damage staff instead

[wise pecan]

I mean, does voidstrike have any significant damage blessings besides just the peril quell?

[grave bobcat]

I've been messing with melee only and the MkIV claw sword feels SO fuckign good

to swipe through head level

[paper trail]

peril quell is not a damage blessing

[raw breach]

I will petition Fatshark for this until they add it, but they need Sienna's Coruscation Staff that leaves flame patches that apply Soulblaze. If they don't want to change Trauma (Sienna's Combustion Staff) then at least give us another staff like Coruscation

[paper trail]

there is crit blessing, charge blessing, double damage on crit blessing

[wise pecan]

Yes it is. It just isn’t directly so. Infinte peril quell = never ending attacks = never stopping your dps

[grave bobcat]

Yes it is no it isn't?

[sick kindle]

That was my goto as well. Honest to god the way I'm playing Psyker now isn't terribly different from unchained.

[grave bobcat]

Do you think they will sell her skin

in shop

[river sand]

nah we dont need the same staffs as vt2

[paper trail]

I don't know what to tell you, if its an indirect damage perk it is not a damage perk debatably increasing your peril more slowly will also reduce your damage if you are using high peril damage feat so just no

[raw breach]

Warp Nexus, Warp Flurry, and idk what that 3rd blessing is, but it's not one available on Voidstrike

[sick kindle]

Then why did we get them?

[paper trail]

Its called Surge it is real

[raw breach]

Ahh yes, Flail/Corus Unchained? I miss it...

[river sand]

at least surge is something new, more other stuff pls

[paper trail]

There could be more we dont even know about if its rare

[wise pecan]

Voidstrike kills everything it’s intended to in one hit anyways. It’s chief bottleneck is peril and charging. Going peril negative means you remove a bottleneck on your dps, increasing damage. It’s not rocket science

[paper trail]

I mean if you really need to be lucky enough to proc a tier 4 perk on consecrating a green to get it or be super lucky in the shop I don't know

[grave bobcat]

Kinda hoping for some rare giga blessing

[candid hawk]

be me, get a good purg staff, roll crit blessing D:

[grave bobcat]

Something to work for rlly

[raw breach]

According to https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor, a resource linked in the Fatshark launcher itself, Voidstrike only has 8 possible blessings

[drowsy fog]

That's one sexy purge staff

[wise pecan]

Hey, at least you’ll be able to swap it out for something when crafting is finished

[paper trail]

You play on sedition then regularly I take it?

[raw breach]

Blazing Spirit, Focused Channeling, Run 'N' Gun, Sustained Fire, Terrifying Barrage, Transfer Peril, Warp Flurry, and Warp Nexus

[fading shoal]

The blessing replacement/refine option should appear in the update later today

[candid hawk]

just one of them is

[raw breach]

oh grats, crit blessing is amazing

[paper trail]

Its wrong though

[wise pecan]

Malice and heresy, actually. Occasionally damnation, but I don’t care for pugging it and nobody joins me in LFGs cause I’m micless, so I usually only run those on low intensity

[candid hawk]

not on that staff though

[paper trail]

You one shot everything on Heresy with your voidstrike staff. I want whatever you are smoking mate...

[wise pecan]

Granted, it’s been a minute since I’ve used Voidstrike, so I could be misremembering it’s damage potential

[paper trail]

then stop arguing about it

[grave bobcat]

It prob procs bleed

[tidal adder]

Cock

[humble saddle]

i'd rather use trauma lmao

[grave bobcat]

Ok I couldn't stop myself

[tight saddle]

They didn't say everything, they said everything it's intended to. Which most people use it for horde clearing as the general idea of it.

[candid hawk]

i mean im NGL my void staff 1 shots quite a bit even on damnation if im using it on dregs in a horde

[grave bobcat]

I needed that free smile

[wise pecan]

Exactly

[uneven sparrow]

You guys talking about which staff is best

[wise pecan]

Eh not really

[humble saddle]

they are all good, no bests

[grave bobcat]

Using staffs

[deft fiber]

My "staff" the best

[grave bobcat]

I got best stick

Look

[potent echo]

Another day, another staff discrimination topic

[tidal adder]

Look at my pole, everyone in front of me has white blueish stuff all over them when i focus on it

[grave bobcat]

Uh ho

[humble saddle]

but!!!! if you use surge staff you noob guys!!

[fading shoal]

The staff wars continues

[uneven sparrow]

[paper trail]

Do you use terrifying barrage on your voidstrike staff?

[tranquil fiber]

Purge vs Surge ere we go again

[humble saddle]

if not, not optimized -> wrong build

[grave bobcat]

Keth you playing?

[tight saddle]

I don't use Void often and my Void sucks, I was just clarifying what they meant.

[sick kindle]

Say what you want about Purgatus. Nothing can convince me that the fantasy of cleansing disease with purifying, blinding, holy fire doesn't make the pyro in me very, very happy

[tidal adder]

Hey so uh, are you more of a PalciumPal or GalciumGal if you know what i mean?

[tight saddle]

I am after I make coffee and breakfast.

[potent echo]

Don't doubt anything you said except the holy part

[grave bobcat]

You'll find out if you get to know me better

[raw breach]

The fantasy doesn't align with the damage output

[grave bobcat]

I wanna do High Int ❤️

I just need 1 other to rely on

[drowsy fog]

Love me the purgatus, void is cool too I can definitely see the value and satisfaction but i just don't vibe with it as much

[candid hawk]

im gonna go ahead and say it, i enjoy the trauma staff

[tidal adder]

If you dont go pure BB youre bot real psyker tbh

[wise pecan]

My biggest issue with the purgatus is when teammates have it and just spurge over or in front of everything I’m trying to see

[potent echo]

How do you read this sentence

[tidal adder]

From left to right

[drowsy fog]

Nah dude best psyker is infantry autogun and devil claw

[grave bobcat]

Damn I thought it was a manga

[grave bobcat]

Gtfo my build

[drowsy fog]

Lol

[tidal adder]

It’s probably cuz of the uwu in my name, i get that alot

[grave bobcat]

Dad what is an UwU?

[drowsy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/uw-u-kawai-pixel-art-gif-18479272

[tranquil fiber]

[drowsy fog]

Do it, coward

[tidal adder]

Thats a face you make when you think about me

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[grave bobcat]

I won't lie, even with my gear not being very good. I'm surprised how good it feels to use lo

[paper trail]

Think its time to find a better discord for this game lol

[tidal adder]

Nobody is holding you here

[manic halo]

I am

I’m a jailer

[grave bobcat]

official discs are never places to stay in too long 😛

[manic halo]

You can not leave

[tranquil fiber]

honestly, comes down to the hour you're on.

[drowsy fog]

Before I unlocked staves infantry autogun felt the best out of the options lol

[fading shoal]

a better echo chamber you mean

[grave bobcat]

rmber I not actually using it

I didn't fire a single shot all game lol

[wise pecan]

Does being better mean that it’s more insulated or just that it’s echoing the right sound

[paper trail]

Nice try

[tidal adder]

Nice try

[grave bobcat]

lol

[paper trail]

triggered

[grave bobcat]

I like that

[manic halo]

[wise pecan]

I mean, you’re the one being salty and refusing to accept that a blessing that you think isn’t good might have uses beyond your immediate preconceptions. It sounds to me like an echo chamber is exactly what you’re looking for

[grave bobcat]

Aww mans you salty now too?

[drowsy fog]

Gonna have to start bringing a spray bottle in here

[potent echo]

Ppl do be going online looking for a fight

[tranquil fiber]

Man people be really going personal now over pointless video game stuff

[grave bobcat]

Get some steak in here or somethig dom't want it to go to waste

[tidal adder]

You know what they say

[paper trail]

nice try

[tidal adder]

Dont bring spray bottle into discord servers, because that’s impossible

[drowsy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/spraying-disinfect-lilo-and-stitch-lilo-stitch-gif-16694753

[tranquil fiber]

Game is in a weird place and community is eating at each other

[grave bobcat]

I miss that movie

[fading shoal]

I'll eat you out

[tidal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[split gust]

Wait why is it in a weird place? what's going on?

[potent echo]

I don't think it has anything to do with the community I think it's just psyker chat

[tranquil fiber]

[potent echo]

[tranquil fiber]

[tidal adder]

Honestly you cant blame anyone whos being mental in psyker chat

[tranquil fiber]

Brain gasm

[wise pecan]

Ehh, just the general launch state (better than VT2’s original one, nowhere near as refined as VT2 is now, people expected the refinements of VT2 to be applied here)

[drowsy fog]

I can blame anyone for anything I want. Whether they're actually at fault is irrelevant

[gray island]

Psyker chat is def the most toxic channel. Everyone thinks they’re gigabrain

[grave bobcat]

Wait your not?

[gray island]

Brain busting all over ourselves

[grave bobcat]

Wtf,,

[tranquil fiber]

It all comes full circle, buff Psykers.

[candid hawk]

idk Vet chat is pretty bad, people are using it for a second general chat

[raw breach]

That's the prerequisite for being a Psyker. Did you not get the memo?

[candid hawk]

theres little to no convo about veterans in the vet chat

[potent echo]

Everyone does secretly

[sick kindle]

I am the emperor's gift to man, thank you for noticing

[drowsy fog]

Vets spill into here all the time to piss and moan about being a good class which is weird

[tidal adder]

I wont accept your blame

[gray island]

Sorry I don’t talk to people who don’t use surge staff and atrax axe exclusively

Nice try

[potent echo]

Depends on the timezone I don't envy you morning folk

[sick kindle]

lmfao just got a FS out of Emp gift

Time to see what's on it

[grave bobcat]

@tight saddle Actually imma get more sleep since I made the mistake of having a nap

So maybe on later

[wise pecan]

My prediction: not deflector

[tranquil fiber]

disappointment

[raw breach]

If we weren't gigabrain psykers, we'd be on black ships instead of prison ships

[bronze pulsar]

the funny thing is the class is the worst of the 4 lol (dont hate the messenger its true)

[sick kindle]

Mediocrity

[raw breach]

I have my certifications, thank you.

[gray island]

Psh we can do it all

[tranquil fiber]

well Psykers are just tortured most of their life before not being branded as a Heretic so....

[wise pecan]

Man that really is the worst decent force sword I’ve ever seen

[gray island]

Axe has the wrong blessings. You can’t fool me heretic

[tidal adder]

Non sleep deep rest or ure not a psyker

[raw breach]

Or does it?

[wise pecan]

Those blessings look valid to me

[tranquil fiber]

or does it?

[gray island]

You don’t need repeat hit blessing you just block push. Wasted slot

[wise pecan]

Does block pushx2 not count as a repeated hit?

[drowsy fog]

Force greatsword when

[raw breach]

wait, am i an actual idiot and shred doesn't apply to push attacks?

[tidal adder]

When we FORCE THEM TO RELEASE IT GAGAHHAHA

[tranquil fiber]

just more force weapons when pls

[gray island]

It’s consecutive hits I’m almost certain. And if you block push it resets. I don’t have the blessing to confirm 100%

[tidal adder]

All the weapons use force, change my mind

[wise pecan]

I’m curious what a force greatsword would do

[orchid nest]

push attack generally doesn't apply to similar blessings like that. like decimator. it makes limbsplitter pretty good though on the other hand for them

[gray island]

Not with our spindly psyker arms they don’t

[tranquil fiber]

Chad mind, noodle body

[gray island]

So much so we literally think we’re the best

[drowsy fog]

Something that can cleave AND get deflector

[tidal adder]

We are the best.

[wise pecan]

FS can kinda cleave, if you squint and tilt your head a little

[sick kindle]

Noodles? If that's the case then mac n cheese is served. Swoocing all up on and around horde, dipping in and out of pinches for free staff casts. 😂

[tranquil fiber]

Yeah thats why we smack our heads against the wall when someone dares mentions bleed

[ornate hamlet]

Just finished a damnation run, brain burst does way too much damage. My friends who play veteran complained the entire run that they couldn’t even get a shot off before I was clearing entire rooms with brainvurst. Our insane single target damage needs a nerf

[gray island]

I mean ur right we can make the best of every other class

[sick kindle]

Cmon man, dont kick it up again. You fought for him to stop. lol

[gray island]

See that’s why we don’t need vet in the game at all

[tidal adder]

Nono i dont mean the class sibling

We as individuals are the best

[gray island]

And we run knife/purge so zealot is obsolete

[wise pecan]

Lmao

[tranquil fiber]

[tranquil fiber]

fair!

[gray island]

Then deflector FS to get rid of the ogren

[raw breach]

Dammit, now I have to go back to test Shred again. There's no buff icon either either way so it's hard to verify...

[wise pecan]

Yeah, the buff icon inconsistency is a bitch, ya kinda just gotta gauge based on the damage number ranges

[gray island]

Bleed is a crutch for inferior classes

[supple skiff]

New update but yet or is that later today

[ornate hamlet]

A 1 in 30,000k chance to get deflector on your sword is actually too good. I want to feel like I’m playing the power ball lottery each time I go to the store

[bronze pulsar]

later today hopefully

[wise pecan]

It’s debatable whether the game update will even be today, though the community update has not released yet

[gray island]

Just make 5 psykers that way you get 5 times the rolls don’t need other classes anyway

[drowsy fog]

Time for bed, cya round everyone

[tidal adder]

Just get lucky lol

[supple skiff]

Oh look, it’s how I geared my warlock in destiny lol

If gear and resources were shared I’d consider it

[wise pecan]

But then you need to level 5 psykers to 30, because there is no shared inventory

[gray island]

Sounds like someone with 5k grumpier

[gray island]

Why would you need any other classes anyway?

Just name each one the class you’re going to outplay, then 1 main

[ornate hamlet]

That’s so big brain 5 in 30,000k. I’m gonna be rich

[gray island]

Like my psyker named zealot can outrun anyone with their 90% mobility mk v dueling sword

[wise pecan]

That just means that you need five deflector force swords

[gray island]

Easiest way to exit coherency and die

[gray island]

No just need 1 for my psyker named ogren

[raw breach]

Emperor's Throne... I think i'm an actual idiot and Shred doesn't even apply on push attacks. But Decimator WOULD count because it's just power on hit, Shred specifies "on repeated hit"

[winter kayak]

Im not sure what a psyker is but man this class named Sith Lord Palpatine is interesting to play as for sure

[gray island]

Sorry you had to find out this way king

[gray island]

See THIS PERSON gets it

[runic hornet]

unlimitedpowah.mp4

[wise pecan]

Unrelated: I used to run toughness on warp charge, but I think I have seen the light and switched to toughness on quell. I never realized just how frequently it’s come up, and how useful it is to be able to just duck behind cover for a bit and build some toughness

[runic hornet]

toughness on warp charge is specifically good for purgatus build and that's really it

[wise pecan]

Yeah I think I might keep it there

[runic hornet]

toughness on charge is REALLY good on purgatus

[gray island]

Quietude is peak for everyone except gun psykers (veterans)

[tidal adder]

Welllll

[runic hornet]

but it doesn't proc often enough for everyone else

[tidal adder]

If you get in the midst and have 4% chance + 10% to bb every 15 secs, you can sustain yourself inside a horde if youre more of a in your face player

[weary idol]

hey

rude

[raw breach]

Goes to show that you don't need optimized gear for 4-5, but the dude earlier who said you can start heresy at level 25 and damnation at 27 or whatever is on some bad corpse starch

[runic hornet]

without the purgatus-synergy talent of 30-2 I still don't feel it's enough

[crystal wigeon]

wrong chat sorry

[wise pecan]

Also I swear to god every time I type something -es my phone autocorrects it to -ed, and vice versa

[tranquil fiber]

on the madness...

[gray island]

Hey my psyker named veteran is running a mk 12 and a chain sword it’s I’m with you

[tight saddle]

Sometimes when I Psyker I do warp stuff

[tranquil fiber]

but people get carried often so not surprised

[tidal adder]

Its not optimal, but you dont really have choice if you want to melee

[runic hornet]

I'd rather psike to 100 perils with surge ||or trauma||, or just get constant quelling with voidstrike headshots

[weary idol]

I just use the light infantry autogun

cause it has a lotta burst DPS against things that I can't kill with brainburst...

[runic hornet]

Nah, I play straight-to-100-perils trauma staff, then swap to either mk1 claw or antax

then you get 50% toughness over the next 10 seconds.

[tidal adder]

Wait

[tranquil fiber]

The way I see it, if you can make a build work it works

[tidal adder]

Do you get toughness when the peril lowers on its own?

[tight saddle]

All my peril on weak spot void staffs suck. I want a good one with it

[runic hornet]

yes

[weary idol]

yes

[raw breach]

Ascending Blaze still doesn't give enough Warp Charges because the dot having to be the final tick of damage in multiplayer is super low. I tried a purg run with all the synergy talents and was shocked that i had no warp charges for parts of the run

[runic hornet]

all sources of quelling count

[tranquil fiber]

there isn't a scoreboard in the game so if you're getting to the end of the missions its win win

[runic hornet]

an ult that quells will restore 25% toughness

[tidal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-gray-gubler-oh-ok-really-okay-gif-13499396

[gray island]

I use purge to build my peril. 1 full charge takes me to 50%

[weary idol]

it is easily the best toughness talent in the game

[sick kindle]

Word. Also pro tip. passive peril venting on melee is more quick if you do a mini vent to start it on staff then switching.

[tranquil fiber]

I think things will change if some kind of damage tracking lands in the game

[runic hornet]

dot ticks final bit of damage for me often enough that I'll take it on purgatus build over fast BBs

[sick kindle]

It stops that stupid delay of starting the vent

[wise pecan]

In my experience, I’m at like 1-2 stacks in normal gameplay, then immediately 6 stacks when a horde happens

[raw breach]

Quietude turning your peril gen directly into toughness gen is clutch for anyone who plays a staff-centric playstyle.

[runic hornet]

I don't think so? it's always a 2 second delay

[weary idol]

works for any playstyle tbh

[runic hornet]

After your last warp action (notably perilsblocking doesn't count) there's a 2 second delay then passive quelling begins

[tranquil fiber]

Don't you need to Quell to get the toughness back? Or does it work with passive no force weapon

[weary idol]

even with no staff or force sword you can just passively build a lot of toughness by charging a brain burst with right click

[runic hornet]

no, all sources of quelling including passive restore toughness

[weary idol]

even if you don't end up actually using it

[runic hornet]

Ults do, 10% quell-on-kill passive does, passive quelling does

[gray island]

Idk when I gun I’m to busy shooting to build peril cause why use BB

[tight saddle]

shop reset time

[raw breach]

How does a Gun Psyker generate constant peril again?

[wise pecan]

Crusher

[weary idol]

the ever present crushers and maulers everywhere

[tranquil fiber]

So Psykers, do we prefer Health Curios or Toughness Curios weighting?

[weary idol]

(and also dog/flamer spawns)

[runic hornet]

Trappers too

[wise pecan]

Maulers are fine just shoot them in the chest

[weary idol]

pre-charging with right click to chunk them then shooting them for the kill

[frigid zenith]

Gun curios

[runic hornet]

trappers still die in one BB and they run fucking fast

so if it shoots and skitters you're better off BBing it than chasing it around a corner

[vestal rose]

if you manually quell for a split second right after using some warp attack and then immediately switch to your melee, it continues to passive quell rather than having to wait

[weary idol]

yeah but like...they call you special

[runic hornet]

into the dark

[tight saddle]

it seems to ultimately depend on what kind of enemies you struggle most against, I've stacked both comfortably and don't see too big of a difference. When I stack toughness I wish I had health when I stack health I wish I had toughness depending on what happened that match.

[runic hornet]

are you sure this isn't just because the act of quelling and then swapping has its own time dleay

but I'll check

[vestal rose]

nope, definitely faster! It's very nice

[raw breach]

oh, so... lol Brain Burst? But most of the time as a Gun Psyker you're not using Brain Burst or generating any peril, so Quietude would be wasted

[tidal adder]

Helth

[wise pecan]

I run one toughness, one health, one wounds, and feel pretty comfortable

[gray island]

Lasgun

[weary idol]

i'm basically constantly charging a right click brain burst going into enemy spawns to nuke a gunner/shotgunner at the start of a fight

[runic hornet]

The better you play, the better toughness curios are, since heresy and damnation rifle squads can punch through 100 toughness easily before you can react, so having 130 or even 150 is a huge difference
HP curios can save you from going 100->0 more often due to bad melee positioning or disablers that you get saved late (but eventually, nonehtless) on, but it's rarer

[wise pecan]

Lasgun barely tickles a crusher’s nipples