psyker-class

[boreal sun]

right click charge is for stuff you can't see

dog, sniper, mutie

[long wharf]

I never right click charge BB

never

[boreal sun]

use it behind cover

[tranquil badge]

Gonna take 4bb for the Mutie so for me right click charge just wastes time

[plucky token]

Kinetic Deflection is more for the melee hybrid build I thought.

[tranquil badge]

And dog is still two bb

[boreal sun]

kinetic deflection is a must have.

[long wharf]

if you're BBing the Mutie, something has gone very wrong

[tranquil badge]

And with sniper you can just left click cause he’s usually off by himself

[boreal sun]

i'd honestly argue kinetic deflection is broken

[tranquil badge]

Always melee the mutie

[long wharf]

I don't think kinetic deflection is broken, I think non-force-sword passive quell is too high

[river crest]

being able to clutch revives is useful for any build, and only 33% ranged Toughness DR from having max warp charges is your only other option for that tier, I personally prefer it

[plucky token]

If you're talking about the infinite block with common swords that is 100% a bug

[boreal sun]

kinetic deflection + deflection on force sword

combine that with infinite dodges

[long wharf]

you definitely turn into a mini-tank with deflector

[boreal sun]

honestly

i'd say it's better than ogryn

[long wharf]

but the passive quelling on the force sword is abysmal

[boreal sun]

because you can literally walk up

the only problem is that the "blocking" area isn't as big

[plucky token]

I saw a video of a guy with a dueling sword infinite blocking a Dameon Host. It's totally a bug. Funny as hell though.

[ebon jolt]

We need a feat that gives us warp charges from blocking 🤓

[river crest]

I get the feeling it's bugged and they got their code wrong so the stuff that is supposed to be good at it is the worst at it and the stuff that is supposed to be bad at it is good at it

[plucky token]

Fat Shark hire this man/wooman

[boreal sun]

force sword needs to give warp charges on a charged kill

that would drastically make everything better

[plucky token]

We have to wait for the Psyker Melee Subclass....9.99 in the Shop!

jk jk. It'll be 19.99

[boreal sun]

i'm betting the force sword is actually a psykinetic exclusive

and the staves are not exclusive

[vestal finch]

Would it not be the other way around?

[boreal sun]

i lied

Psykinetic Psykers use the Warp in battle. Their prodigious power gives them an advantage over elite enemies, dealing extra damage as their psychic powers burst through enemies defenses with a deadly psychic smite. On top of this, they have a number of close range AoE powers. Psychic fire, electricity, and then some. And when overwhelmed, Psykinetics can call upon the Warp for defense as well.

But psychic power comes with a price. The more power you use, the more you run the risk of a Peril of the Warp. And in a game like Darktide, you know that’s going to hurt:

everything we could have could be exclusive then

[spare flax]

tbh the force sword is probably the worst weapon for psyker because it doesnt passively quell peril, and its big thing is singe target dmg for warp charge, which BB does better

[boreal sun]

force sword is amazing

[spare flax]

blocks pushes and sprint speed are all really low too

[boreal sun]

force sword does INSANE damage

more damage than brain burstr

[frail notch]

Force sword special does more damage and is faster than bb, no?

[boreal sun]

faster to charge

[shadow quail]

and can tank ranged damage

[open estuary]

FS active heavy attack chunks hard

[boreal sun]

and force sword does passively quell peril

it's just slow

[spare flax]

yes and no, kinetic barrage makes it the other way round, and with the force sword u have to get close to them which is not advisable with lots of enemies

[round shuttle]

Right but it only damages one enemy and you’re vulnerable while charging and in the attack animation. We’re the squishiest class so those are real risks especially on high diff

[spare flax]

i got one of those perks, took 2 lasgun shots then ran out of stamina and got downed lol

[frail notch]

Ever since they took the peril cost away for pushing its push-light-light-repeat combo is absurd for cc also

[boreal sun]

you need the deflector.

[shadow quail]

Why you run peril on block

[boreal sun]

because you can block all day.

[spare flax]

i know, ye i got the deflector perk on a blue sword, tried it on heresy got my ass beat by a couple dreg chaf gunners

[boreal sun]

i mean gunners will obviously melt

[spare flax]

no not the elite gunners

just 3 ranged chaf

[open estuary]

precisely

[boreal sun]

i dont have any issues blocking those

[spare flax]

and they broke my stamina like nothing

[shadow quail]

you must not have been using peril on block

[boreal sun]

i can stand there all day and peril will go down

[frail notch]

I run peril on block for uninterruptable revives

[open estuary]

heresy+ chaff gunners pump out fucked up dmg

[spare flax]

i was, though its not great with force sword because no automatic qeulling

[boreal sun]

it quells automatically.

[spare flax]

thats a good point

[shadow quail]

Dude you said you took 2 shots and ran out of stamina, with peril on block?

that's not anyone elses experence

[spare flax]

thats all good then, if you had a better experience with it go ahead, i didnt tho

[boreal sun]

you could have been shot from a different angle and it didn't block

if they are shooting from the side, it will not block.

[spare flax]

idk the block angles, but they were all about 45 degrees with me looking at them

at the midpoint*

[boreal sun]

i got great video.

[shadow quail]

they maxed out your peril in 2 shots?

[spare flax]

sure

[boreal sun]

i can show you

exactly what happened to you

because it just happened to me

lmao

[spare flax]

they got me to critical peril with like 3 or 4 gunners dumping a salvo on me at like 10m in front of me

[boreal sun]

https://streamable.com/9mxkm1

I went down because of the two reapers on the side.

and it did not block

[timber shale]

oh well yeah, deflector is useful for tanking regular shooters or quickly ducking out of gunner/reaper fire. You don't want to stand there trying to block multiple elites lmao

[spare flax]

good example of the limits of deflector but ye they were 3 or 4 dreg chaf together, they literally just broke through the block

[boreal sun]

the first part was even blocking reaper fire

two of them

the issue is that the angle for blocking is relatively small

[long osprey]

Do the surge staff stuns ogryns mobs?

[boreal sun]

yes

surge stuns everything except bosses

[spare flax]

true, it was a test of deflector, and it was the only way to get them to shoot at me cause heresy teams are good positioners lol, they wouldnt let me test

i had an ogryn being a chad at the time

but anyway

force sword normal attacks are frustrating too

[boreal sun]

i don't like the normal force sword attacks

mainly because the second light attack cannot hit the head

[vestal finch]

How did you guys get Going out with a Bang?

I'm still struggling...

[boreal sun]

i did it solo damnation difficulty with surge staff

you could probably do it with purg as well

but surge lets you stun them so you don't get instantly killed

[spare flax]

max lvl psyker and still havent got it, try the convocation staff to blow urself up and find a group of ragers

[round shuttle]

Found multiple armored ragers, went boom. From psykanium testing they die from full health to the perils boom

I’ve heard gunners work too

[boreal sun]

is that on malice difficulty?

[open estuary]

they tend to run away so ragers are better

[boreal sun]

i'd probably do it on heresy

much more spawns

[spare flax]

tbh locking cosmetics behind acheivements is just frustrating, though im the millionth dude to say that

[boreal sun]

i mean

i don't mind it

[open estuary]

its fine

[boreal sun]

gives you something to work for

the problem is just how bullshit some of the penances are

[open estuary]

its just the requirements for some are cringe

[round shuttle]

I would be happier about it if all the penances were things that would happen during normal gameplay.

[kindred delta]

still cant do warp battery for the life of me

mfer

[vestal finch]

This is how they did it back in the day.

The problem is the achievements are stupidly designed

[open estuary]

they can happen technically in normal gameplay

[kindred delta]

and i still didnt surpass my 273 record

[open estuary]

just you need to fuck up for it to happen

[paper trail]

Once private matches come out they will all become insanely easy though

[spare flax]

ye, like theres loads of fellas out there who cant be asked to make premade teams but if they dont they cant get malleus monstonum

[kindred delta]

does the 10% brain burst on any attack feat give warp charges?

[round shuttle]

Yes

[boreal sun]

malleus is super easy and can be done without an ogryn

[spare flax]

yes

[round shuttle]

Right but you need an entire team to accommodate you

[kindred delta]

alright can it proc on surge staff lightning hits?

[boreal sun]

yeah. just find a daemonhost and find a group

[round shuttle]

Yes

[boreal sun]

procs on any damage

[kindred delta]

can I not lose my warp charges for warp battery or can I lose them I just have to regain all 4 and maintain for it to count?

[round shuttle]

Can’t lose them unfortunately

[open estuary]

should be ok to lose them

[kindred delta]

then how tf am I supposed to do it when theres no enemies around

[round shuttle]

Endless horde is probably your best bet

[kindred delta]

this one seems arguably worse than going out with a bang (which i did before release day)

[open estuary]

warp battery was by far the easiest for me

[round shuttle]

Flame staff helps if you’re relying on the 10% random brain burst

[vestal finch]

Warp battery is ez af

[kindred delta]

alri, I'll first hit level 25 then hope a good purgatus shows up in the shop again

im 1 level away from 25 lol

[boreal sun]

you won't get a good purg until 30

[round shuttle]

Endless horde smelter finale with purge will probably do it for you

[boreal sun]

warp battery is dummy easy

[obsidian lichen]

Finally got Untouchable. Damn Poxburster right at the end of one mission, wasn't staggered by Voidstrike or F.

._.

[round shuttle]

Poxbursters do be like sometimes

[covert cosmos]

i stick to only shoving them now

idk why f just doesn't work sometimes

[lethal plover]

Good thing trauma always 1shots burster

[obsidian lichen]

Got Lacerate... now I just need crafting to make use of it.

[delicate acorn]

Is there a definitive BIS for Psyker melee or is it more just a preference/Blessings thing?

[rigid meteor]

Preference

I'll link my sword after thsi match I love it

[obsidian lichen]

Preference / blessings. Force Sword with Deflector, Antax Mk V and (to some people) knife are the best options.

[rigid meteor]

Everything about this game is dependent on your playstyle

I used to rock an axe with armor pen and high crit forbosses

[river crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512087998133829633/1051598890996076565/image.png

Personally running this on my psyker

[rigid meteor]

Ya thats similar to what I used to rock

But with psyker you want to use your ability more to keep +15% dmg from all damage sources

[ebon jolt]

I don’t have a good one but I like the Catachan Mk 1 sword.

[rigid meteor]

The thing with psyker when you get to the harder content is he's more of a support/cc

[vestal finch]

I fucking hate this penance

They could have at least made the peril explosion more potent...

[severe hare]

Yeah I've been struggling with that - managed to kill two ragers which is the closest I've gotten.

[ashen ore]

new to psyker, what is the preferred lvl 5 skill?

[obsidian lichen]

If you have a staff on low level difficulty, the 2nd one.

Otherwise Quietitude.

[lethal plover]

literally doesn't matter
flayer and communion upkeeps warp without trying

I'm tired of low intensity damnation

Why so many low intensity

[pine nova]

holy shit, if a veteran takes one more specialist kill mid bb before combat even starts I am going to lose my mind

[lethal plover]

That means they are paying attention

Good

Warp charges don't matter all that much

[pine nova]

I just want the penance

[lethal plover]

Do rmb bb instead

[tranquil badge]

Try not to hate yourself while you do it

[lethal plover]

That can't be scooped

[tranquil badge]

Such a long charge

[open estuary]

better get used to vets mowing down 5 specials instantly with F

[obsidian lichen]

"Warp charges don't matter" said the man that always used 4 BBs to take out Ogryns.

[vestal finch]

Killshot drills engaged

[minor elk]

Trying to get the FUS RO DAH penance done

but the bots instakill

[vestal finch]

Bastion 2-20 Combat Stance

[minor elk]

such pain.

[obsidian lichen]

Warp charges absolutely do matter.

Make a huge difference in Damnation.

[tranquil badge]

Is there a dmg break point with warp charges?

[vestal finch]

I got that one to 19/20 before release and before the devs made it easier

[tranquil badge]

Been playing damnation and they don’t seem to have any impct

[obsidian lichen]

For Maulers, Ogryns and Mutants. Albeit BB a mutant is just a bad idea unless there's no better option at the tim.

[rigid meteor]

I choose not to argue with people that just come out with their opinions lol Psyker is so crucial in damnation groups if played right

[tranquil badge]

Does it go from 4 bb to 3 for ogryn? Or is it 3 to 2

Melee those muties

[soft prism]

Runs in high levels without a psyker are pure pain sometimes

[rigid meteor]

Love this sword for hordes

[obsidian lichen]

Goes from 3 to 2 for Maulers. 3-4 to 3 for all Ogryns, 3 for Mutants, 1 for Ragers and Flamers - and besides that knocks much larger chunks out of Hounds and other surviving elites/specials to be burst down by other people.

Overall greatly increases DPS.

1-shotting ragers is very useful in Damnation.

[burnt python]

w/ 6 charges?

[edgy kite]

What does charging up the staffs do? Namely the surge one

[burnt python]

did not know about rager & flamer bp's that is really good

[obsidian lichen]

Increases damage and the number of enemies stunned.

[tranquil badge]

Yea honestly that’s good to know for flamers, i don’t have a huge issue with maulers or ragers but i have the axe

[edgy kite]

Alright cheers

[obsidian lichen]

When I see a horde, I always pop the 1-shots first to build some charges, then I start popping other stuff like Maulers and Ogryns.

[kindred delta]

do staff abilities count as a "warp attack"?

[nimble needle]

Yeah

[kindred delta]

in context to the level 5 feat "warp absorption"

oh sweet thats better with surge staff than 5% toughness for every 10% peril quelled

[nimble needle]

Depends how many kills you're getting

[open estuary]

surge staff sucks at killing most stuff

[kindred delta]

a lot.

[nimble needle]

If your team is killing and you're just stunning then that one is the worst

[kindred delta]

I use concentrated blasts for elites and I use CC for fodder

it usually kills shooters outright, although sometimes it leaves one alive

same goes for shotgunners and whatnot

[nimble needle]

This is at lower difficulties, presumably

[kindred delta]

yeah, just speedrunning missions until level 25

then ill hope I can get some sort of a purgatus

I know what stats to look for from looking for flamers so

damage, burn, radius, and quell speed for purg

[vestal finch]

"I know what stats to look for!" lists every stat

[grizzled harness]

Do they plan to fix the clipping issue with the imperial edition outfit?

[soft prism]

he left off warp resistance

[hollow hatch]

You know it'd be crazy if psyker BB actually did any decent damage. :[

[soft prism]

fatshark is to cowardly to make it scale

[hollow hatch]

Imo it should one shot anything below ogryn and 2 shot ogryn at any difficulty.

._.

[obsidian lichen]

...

[tranquil badge]

Scroll up we were just talking about bb scaling on damnation

[obsidian lichen]

If they made it impacted by Staff stats, then BB would be great.

[minor elk]

Oh God damn.

[tranquil badge]

Is there overall power level in dark tide? I thought at first it would just scale off that before finding out it didn’t scale

[hollow hatch]

God could you imagine peril resist and faster peril degen with hands equipped? Ffs

[obsidian lichen]

BB doesn't scale at all.

[soft prism]

was that discussion with 6 or 4 warp charges?

[hollow hatch]

Bb is the literal coolest part of psyker and it sucks. Doing like 4% of a bosses health per BB is nonsense.

[obsidian lichen]

No, just remove the 'Strike' special attack and make it BB instead.

[night marten]

daily PSA that you can walk with your sick psyker drip in the mourningstar by holding control, and that melk's requisitorium is an enormous noob-trap scam

[nimble needle]

I actually think the staves are the coolest part

[tranquil badge]

Melk is for sure a trap

[obsidian lichen]

Melk's Requisitorium isn't just a noob-trap scam.

Well, it won't be once we have crafting. You can just buy weapons with good blessings or perks to be used in crafting.

[soft prism]

compared to the force staff brain burst is underwhelming , and the lackluster feats dont help

[hollow hatch]

Idk I'm trying to explode brains not be a sith lord

[nimble needle]

I think exploding heads is sort of silly and a smite type attack would have fit better

[tranquil badge]

That’s a good ass point didn’t think of that

[night marten]

for the time invested, it's a giant scam imo

[kindred raft]

you got trap noob trapped

[soft prism]

gotta wait for the full release game to be fullier released for that though

[night marten]

far easier to buy anything from the shop and throw a few crafting mats at it

[open estuary]

confining a powers like Smite to a staff is yikes

[vestal finch]

I spent hundreds of resources getting an orange curio... Final stat? +Sniper damage resistance

[paper trail]

Mystery boxes are where its at

[nimble needle]

Every psyker in TT has it but not in Darktide lol

[patent steeple]

btw what is the lowest acceptable amount of warp resistance on a trauma staff?

[burnt python]

beats xp lol

[night marten]

that's far better than +exp, gold, or +chance at curios

[nimble needle]

Whatever you can deal with

[obsidian lichen]

Pretty much all the weekly objectives you can complete passively. I'm not saying the prices at Melk's are sensible, but it's fine if you just treated it as an occasional 'free loot' on top of the armoury stuff.

[hollow hatch]

Psyker ult should deal damage too. At least enough to one shot pox walkers

[night marten]

not really, grimoires scriptures and secondary objectives are not super passive (I think they should always be rerolled to the passive alternatives)

[obsidian lichen]

Warp res. on Trauma is useless.

[soft prism]

well it does with lvl 30 feat, but that takes a slot

[frigid sparrow]

I one shot anything with armor with surge..

[night marten]

theres no need to make excuses for it, melk's is kind of shit in its current implementation

[open estuary]

As long as Melk continues to stock 5 autoguns every rotation

[obsidian lichen]

80% Warp Resistance on Trauma still builds 41% Peril with a single Charged Alt.

[open estuary]

the prices wont be a problem

[tranquil badge]

Honestly I’d be fine if it pushed in a circle instead of a cone and pushed further with no dmg still

[patent steeple]

ahh ok then, i understand.

[hollow hatch]

Should also clear 100% peril

Like it used to

[tranquil badge]

Yea but they did the same nerf to zealot for toughness restore on joy iirc

[vestal finch]

Kneel! Kneel!!

[tranquil badge]

I think it’s a gameplay decision so it’s not a complete ass save button

[nimble needle]

I am Death!

[obsidian lichen]

Given how often we can cast F, the only possible change should be that it pushes harder. It should always be knockdown, not 'knockdown when I feel like it'.

[tranquil badge]

Cause iirc sienna clears it all in vtide 2 but it’s been a minute since i played

[obsidian lichen]

Sometimes it just does a tiny stagger, and sometimes it does nothing at all.

[hollow hatch]

I noticed this as well

[tranquil badge]

Yea i wish it was more consistent sometimes it staggers ogryns and other times nah

[obsidian lichen]

I've heard mention that it's affected by Peril loss (i.e. the more peril it purges the better) but it's still bugged as fuck.

[nimble needle]

Unyielding

[hollow hatch]

SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRO -- OH sorry wrong chat.

[vestal finch]

Bastion 2-20 Combat Stance!

[obsidian lichen]

Get that Vet-speak out of here.

[ashen bear]

Upgraded from white, what do you think so far?

[vestal finch]

Militarum surprise coming up!

[hollow hatch]

Not 500 trash it

[ebon jolt]

I mean it can always be better but looks good to me.

[vestal finch]

Voidstrike feels very underwhelming

[open estuary]

no

[teal cargo]

Voidstrike is nice

[vestal finch]

Yes

[teal cargo]

pretty versatile

[vestal finch]

No

[ebon jolt]

I’ve tested surge on voidstrike and it seems pretty underwhelming. I think it might be pretty good on surge staff though.

[obsidian lichen]

Surge is unfortunate, because Void doesn't crit much, but 25% vs Flak is great and so is Quell on weakspot.

[paper trail]

purgatus feels very underwhelming to me

[vestal finch]

No

[obsidian lichen]

;-;

[teal cargo]

Purgatus is pretty nice

[soft prism]

purgatus slaps

[obsidian lichen]

Purgatus is the all-rounder.

[open estuary]

purgatus lacks the blaze bolt LMB

[teal cargo]

nah Voids the all rounder

[obsidian lichen]

CC, damage and "BURN THE HERETICS!"

[teal cargo]

Purg is horde clear

[rigid widget]

What's bad with Melks place? Is it just better to wait to level 30 for it or can the tokens be used elsewhere?

[ebon jolt]

Purgatus is nice but now that I have used the flamer I can’t go back.

[hollow hatch]

Does Purg do a similar dot to flamethrower??

[paper trail]

I hate how distracting the flames are, I would honestly rather have a zealot with a flamer

[teal cargo]

Flamer deals a lot more dmg though

[obsidian lichen]

No, don't underrate Purgatus. That thing will kill elites with ease.

[teal cargo]

like def noticeable vs bosses

[obsidian lichen]

People neglect to realise how much damage it does with a single charged alt.

[soft prism]

flamer is ammo limited, purgatus isnt

[runic gate]

On damnation even the most basic mobs run though the fire from purg staff, then they slap you around.

[night marten]

people push themselves to complete the contracts, but the vast majority of the time the items in melks aren't any better than normal shop items

[obsidian lichen]

Anything that can be ignited (except Crushers) takes a shiteload of damage.

[ebon jolt]

Burn deals more damage than soulblaze. Flamer has 50% more range and Purgatus has a 42% wider cone.

[nimble needle]

Modifiers don't increase when you consecrate, do they

[obsidian lichen]

That's not true at all.

[vestal finch]

Flamer needs ammo

[night marten]

they just have an additional perk+blessing, which is relatively cheap crafting mats wise

[teal cargo]

yea Purg has no ammo though

Flamer has long ass reload and weapon swap time too

[ebon jolt]

Flamer also has fan the flames which is lit.

[vestal finch]

Learn to aim?? It staggers when the flames hit them

[runic gate]

Death is the best cc.

[soft prism]

Purg can roll terrify, that + dodge you should not have issues with mobs hitting you

[obsidian lichen]

Purgatus deals a lot of damage.

[vestal finch]

Spread the gift of Nur the Emperor

[rigid widget]

Ah ok

[runic gate]

Ok roblox guy

[hollow hatch]

Fatshark overvalues free ammo. Ammo is not a rarity lol

[teal cargo]

not as much as Flamer htough

[vestal finch]

It's lego.

[runic gate]

Ok loser

[teal cargo]

Thas true main issue with Flamer is the reload takes years

and you gotta do long animation to bring it out

[night marten]

I'll just keep posting it. 6-stack AB against damnation mobs https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad
purge staff damage on damnation https://gfycat.com/quarrelsomelastcow
https://gfycat.com/cautiousjitteryannelid damnation horde clear with purge staff. it's doable

[open estuary]

you dont know about long anims until you reload a plasma gun

[soft prism]

the only time you would have an issue is if you somehow got backed into a wall and surrounded, in which case you had already messed up and its not the staffs fault

[obsidian lichen]

Honestly, I can't understand why people think Purgatus is weak. Primary fire is just for quick CC, but the alt. fire kills quickly. One charged Alt. can clear half an Ogryn's HP bar (except Crusher).

[teal cargo]

and after sprinting you gotta cock it back

[obsidian lichen]

Even Mauler's take about half their HP bar with a single charged Alt.

[teal cargo]

Purg is nice flamer side grade

you don use ammo and fast to bring out

but less dmg and range

[runic gate]

People often compare meat grinder to the actual game, these mobs aren’t pathing or rushing you or have a front line and elites keeping you and your team busy.

[obsidian lichen]

Honestly, I don't like Vets with flamer.

[teal cargo]

Zealots have Flamer

[ashen bear]

Upgraded from white aswell to purple, I want to use it mostly to block bullets

[runic gate]

This

[rigid widget]

I've heard people saying the 4% Warp charge on kill is bad, why is that?

[obsidian lichen]

They never engage in melee, never force the nearby ranged units to stop shooting.

I meant Zealot. ;-;

[open estuary]

psyker brain

[night marten]

vOv can't make the horse drink. if you don't want to believe it can be effective, I won't be able to change your mind

[obsidian lichen]

Because Psykinetic's aura is more valuable.

[soft prism]

vets have enough tools

[vestal finch]

Mad cuz bad, stop being trash, kid

[rigid widget]

The 15% recharge power one? I assumed it may have been lackluster, does it stack?

[paper trail]

purgatus staff is doing feck all damage to elites in meatgrinder with full alt

[vestal finch]

I feel like I'm the only person who uses Cerebral Lacerations

[teal cargo]

but you clear out all the horde

[night marten]

a full charge kills them though?

[teal cargo]

and elites easy to kill

[paper trail]

no

[teal cargo]

A full charge should do hefty dmg to them though

except Crushers

[obsidian lichen]

Did you shoot a Crusher? I said it does nothing to Crushers.

[paper trail]

it didnt kill this reaper

[obsidian lichen]

One charge takes a Reaper to half HP.

[night marten]

oh. you mean unyielding

[paper trail]

and if you mean letting the dot run out I don't feel like that counts lol

[obsidian lichen]

Unless you have terrible stats.

[night marten]

that's different than just "elites"

[paper trail]

its an elite isn't it?

[soft prism]

"elites" would mean in general

[mint imp]

Hey guys, with the purgatus staff do you spam LMB or just hold RMB? I have no idea what I'm doing while using this staff

[paper trail]

its 78% damage 79% burn this one

[soft prism]

hold rmb charge shoot

[night marten]

I've seen you in here for a while now, would expect you to know better than to make inaccurate sweeping generalizations

[teal cargo]

hold RMB for damage

LMB for cc

[soft prism]

lmb for quick cc

[mint imp]

I see, does it matter to fully charge or whatever?

[paper trail]

so a more realistic statement than it kills elites fast, would be it kills about 40% of elites fast

[teal cargo]

i mean the purg kills ragers real fast

[soft prism]

full charge + psykinetic ult its basically dead anyway

[teal cargo]

well fully charge makes it last longer

[mint imp]

Also do you just spread from left to right etc.... or just focus on a specific target when you get swarmed?

[soft prism]

if not a stiff breeze would kill it

[ancient crag]

I tried a random white purgatus from the shop and honestly don't understand why anyone would use it unless they're specifically using it to proc the warp charges proc for the level 30 feat

[lethal plover]

It kills hordes

[teal cargo]

its pretty decent

you burn hordes down

[night marten]

there's no delay in fire rate with purge, so covering as much area as fast as possible is technically the optimal way to play it

[teal cargo]

and you can burn down like Ragers and Shotgunners

[ancient crag]

I feel like voidstrike kills hordes faster in most situations while still having stagger utility

[night marten]

it can be a bit obnoxious though. see this for an example https://gfycat.com/quarrelsomelastcow

[pallid dock]

purgatus is a horde killer. you pair that with sth efficient against harder targets.

[mint imp]

I see, felt like I wasn't killing anything during a horde so I was wondering if I was doing something wrong, also got smacked:interrupted a few times while trying to do so

[teal cargo]

Purg has better CC

than void

[ancient crag]

the elite dps is incredibly pathetic if you compare it to other classes too

like the whole time spent charging up and firing the whole charge at one enemy

[paper trail]

void has like infinite range too

[obsidian lichen]

You neglect the power of fire and forget.

[night marten]

that stops being true real fast when you're firing into a group with tons of armor

[ancient crag]

meanwhile a half decent veteran could kill 5 ragers in the time it takes for you to kill one

[obsidian lichen]

Number of times I have said to somebody 'just ignore X special it will die in a second', so they just focus on being useful.

Purgatus is great for it.

[paper trail]

That isn't what I said

[soft prism]

Psykers controlling the whole horde in front of you at the same time with no downtime or resource problems

[paper trail]

if the group with armour is really far away you can still hit it

[obsidian lichen]

Trappers, Hounds etc. that try running away after doing something dumb, and Purge will kill them before they come back.#

[night marten]

it is, but clearly you didn't state what you meant to say correctly

[soft prism]

if the groups far away then its the vets job to kill it

[teal cargo]

Purg ccs mixed hordes very well

[paper trail]

I said it has like infinite range

you mean passthrough

[ancient crag]

I also kinda failed to see what advantages purg offers over a flamer zealot

[paper trail]

It can hit a crusher a mile away

that is what range is

[obsidian lichen]

Zealot should engage melee more than flamer.

[vestal finch]

You won't always have a flamer zealot.

[teal cargo]

Zealot Flamer takes forever to reload and take out

[soft prism]

no ammo and faster response time, zealot should be holding horde while you cover in fire

[teal cargo]

and uses ammo

[obsidian lichen]

It forces ranged units into melee so they aren't shooting the backline.

[teal cargo]

Nah Flamers great boss dmg

[ancient crag]

the point is if you're gonna play purg then why don't you become the flamer zealot instead

[open estuary]

Ideally your Vet kills the ranged before they get to shoot

[vestal finch]

Because... I like playing Psyker?

[soft prism]

because you are ignoring everything else in addition to just the purg?

[ebon jolt]

You can roll reload speed on flamer on though. Also a blessing for reload speed. Reload speed also affects swap animation. Or so I’m told. There are useful blessings and perks you can get.

[teal cargo]

Psyker has BB so you arent just helpless vs Gunner squads

[mint imp]

So when your Peril is super high, you let the others handle for a moment and rinse repeat with the purg?

[soft prism]

psyker doesnt load on the map with the ability to use nothing but the purg lol

[teal cargo]

When you flamer Zealot and theres big pack of shooters life sucks

Cos harder difficulties charging in gets you killed or take a million dmg

unless your team follows up

[soft prism]

team usually doesnt follow up 😦

[mint imp]

This thing works with purgatus staff right?

[ancient crag]

bb isn't exactly a spammable solution when you get those big gunner squads with 12 shooters in it either way, you can chip away a few of them but ultimately you really do depend on the team vet to clean those up

[soft prism]

yes

[teal cargo]

yea they mostly just sit getting suppressed so yoi get mowed down

[night marten]

just the dot from purge has a chance to proc the 10% (currently)

[teal cargo]

While Psyler can ay least bb and chip away

[mint imp]

So when you pew pew the flames it doesn't count as dot? like the initial dmg

[ornate hamlet]

Ascendant blaze with 6 warp charges is great with purgatus

[paper trail]

I find it strange that void staff does less damage to maniacs with its secondary fire

[soft prism]

nah the initial damage is also soulblaze

[paper trail]

thats the only thing I don't like about it

[ancient crag]

yeah ascendant blaze is like the one utility I felt that purg offers

[night marten]

I've never gotten it to proc a warp charge in testing with the direct damage

[ancient crag]

but it's a purely selfish utility and not a team utility

[ornate hamlet]

Crowd control is selfish?

[mint imp]

Alright, do you guys think it worth using Ascendant Blaze?? I really like the Kinetic Barrage for the quick BBs

[ornate hamlet]

Bro

[soft prism]

I could be tripping but im almost certain ive gotten warp charges from left click

[night marten]

you should really use either one, they're both useful

[open estuary]

could be proccing the 4% feat

[mint imp]

(I'm still playing in Malice btw)

[open estuary]

if you had it

[vestal finch]

You could just say you're bad...

[ornate hamlet]

If you roll Purgatus you might as well use AB, but Kinetic Barrage is still great

[soft prism]

mhm maybe

[ornate hamlet]

Cant really go wrong with it

[mint imp]

Aight, thanks a ton for the answers and advices* once again!

[vestal finch]

Ascendant Blaze is overkill and puts too much emphasis on the staff

[soft prism]

I mean either way you shoot into a horde and you pmuch get instant charges

[clear heath]

I don't know if purg damage without the dot will proc ascendant blaze, but i do know you can proc it as long as they have the burn on them. It doesn't need to be the cause of death. Just needs to be on them

[olive ember]

someone mentioned that the direct damage on the purge staff doesn't proc AB

but they also said it might be a bug

idk

[soft prism]

does the dot not apply 1 stack on initial damage hit yes? thats basically the same thing with that interaction

[ancient crag]

I don't use ascendant blaze or purg either way because I feel like it's overspecialization into an already oversaturated role

[night marten]

I agree with you, though I think you'll have a little more success with generating charges by covering as much area as quickly as possible *with the secondary fire (more things dying to dot damage with more chances at a charge)

[vestal finch]

People don't horde clear well enough.

[olive ember]

I mean its not rly overspecialization tbh

[ancient crag]

lot of weapons across different classes are already good at horde control

[ornate hamlet]

All the free cosmetic clothing is blue and not cool. I prefer the damn default clothes you unlock

[teal cargo]

Having good horde clears nice though

[olive ember]

I mean i'm pretty happy with the cosmetics

[ornate hamlet]

well I don't see that shit available lol

[soft prism]

Psyker has far more drip than the other classes

[open estuary]

nice beer goggles

[teal cargo]

give your vets more time to shoot rather than pull out their PS

[olive ember]

thats achievement clothing, ya need to basically do all the psyker achievements

I suffered, have fun

[open estuary]

also zealots got rogaine but not the psyker hoods

[vestal finch]

I helped a sibling get his Brain Burst Boss Kill penance today

[soft prism]

that penance is beyond obnoxious without a premade

[vestal finch]

And by helped I mean did nothing...

[random vale]

Brother? Is that you? It’s been so long! Are you free tomorrow

[soft prism]

half the class penances just involve you actively trolling your team is various manners, unbelievably garbage design

[pallid dock]

once private lobbies are in that might indeed become more bearable

[ancient crag]

I do hate the way that some of the penances require you to do something that actively hinders gameplay for everyone rather than being something that you can organically unlock through regular gameplay

[vestal finch]

Suicide bombing is a perfectly valid method of combat, just ask ISIS

[clear heath]

I organically unlocked the suicide penance by being bad at the game

[random vale]

Yeah lemme just make a phone call rq

[obsidian lichen]

I'm just hoping that Pick n Mix gets nerfed.

6 kills in 12s give you only 0.75s of downtime, so you need to absolutely perfect it.

[soft prism]

I always joke with my friend about trying to complete that penance, but hes actually just dogwater at peril management 🙂

[vestal finch]

I got it ez

[open estuary]

its 5 in 12

isnt it

[vestal finch]

it is

[obsidian lichen]

Oh. Oops.

So 3s of downtime.

[teal cargo]

Im just ignoring the penances

[vestal finch]

It's the least egregious, I think

[teal cargo]

they look way too annoying

[mint imp]

Oooh ya another question, against bosses/monstrosities, would you rather spam Force Sword special attack or BB or Purg staff flamethrower??

[ornate hamlet]

TIL the push back ability removes all your warp charges 🥹

I spammed that stuff every chance I got

[lethal plover]

Low intensity damnation is so boring

[teal cargo]

only with lvl 30 talents

[lethal plover]

I hate when they crowd the map pool

And there's no other damnation type

[ancient crag]

what, the F ability? check your level 30 feat lmao

[clear heath]

Would definitely prefer force sword special over brain burst
Haven't used purg staff enough to comment on that

[ornate hamlet]

Oh that's only a feat thing?

I saw it on reddit

[unique vector]

I feel like i made something sick nasty but im not 100% https://gyazo.com/fdf600d8ce306143ccaeb9166af3870e

[muted wyvern]

All my friends (including the 2 I actually bought the game for) aren’t even playing anymore, so idk what to even do for this one now… so stupid.

[ancient crag]

there's an lfg channel

[ornate hamlet]

Sucks..

[clear heath]

acquire more friends

[ornate hamlet]

I couldn't not play a game after someone gifts it for me lol

I'd at least pay them back

[teal cargo]

Well you cant get refunds for games

[open estuary]

only gift people joke porn games

[teal cargo]

so thas rough

[muted wyvern]

I asked in lfg, tbh, kinda getting over the game now too. If I’m gonna be stuck playing solo or with lfg ppl who I also don’t even know… like, what’s the point?

[spark gale]

https://i.gyazo.com/9ce782dccc07ffbbd9a64d16744e8f59.png

it protecc

finally got deflecc

[clear heath]

wtf

gib

[muted wyvern]

Nice, not a bad sword

[spark gale]

das mine

[teal cargo]

Wow thas really good

[ancient crag]

god sword

[ornate hamlet]

My recommendation if you like the game is, like the person above said, go to a LFG channel. I met my now friends of 2 years that way

[teal cargo]

Prob burnt out on the game

[muted wyvern]

Ugh… that’s just randoms with extra steps. 😂

[teal cargo]

so time to quit

😭

[ornate hamlet]

One day they won't be randoms 🙂

[lethal plover]

Or be like me and meet new people in the game

[open estuary]

friends are just strangers with extra steps

[clear heath]

Yeah i've made good friends from game communities before

[muted wyvern]

I read that as “game communists” for a second there

[ornate hamlet]

So, on the topic of psykers, what makes the force sword so good for a psyker class? I've been using the claw sword for a while now since I like it's crowd control ability

[lethal plover]

Fucking hate how damnation pubs are all empty half the time

[olive ember]

deflector

[paper trail]

are you on gamepass or something Delerik?

[olive ember]

also its push attack is really good

[ornate hamlet]

What is deflector? Sorry, not really familiar with the sword

[lethal plover]

Axe is better than both in melee kek
Only that FS has deflector

[clear heath]

wait that emote

[lethal plover]

Steam

[clear heath]

hm

[olive ember]

and its special attack gives it elite killing power upclose and particularly good against maulers and ragers

FS special stuns ragers which is nice

[muted wyvern]

Force Sword is just good Single Target dmg and the deflector is really slick too. Lets you block ranged projectiles and if you spec in the ability that drains peril instead of stamina, you can be pretty tanky.

[olive ember]

alot less jank than the axe push attack

you can also spam shove with the FS and basically be untouchable in a horde

[muted wyvern]

Yep^

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector blocks ranged projectiles? 😮

[muted wyvern]

Sure does

[vestal finch]

This is an Ogryn-Slayer Sword

[ornate hamlet]

Damn, yeah, I hate snipers so that might be a good option for me

[olive ember]

might be a bug but thats the one projectile deflector doesn't block

[vestal finch]

Doesn't work for snipers...

[ornate hamlet]

Does it drain peril or increase peril?

[ornate hamlet]

😦

[olive ember]

but its still good against gunner + reaper + shotgunner spam

[vestal finch]

That's no projectile... That's a hitscan

[ornate hamlet]

hahahaha

[olive ember]

oh E

also

you run deflector + kinetic deflection yeah

it incrases your peril but doesn't stop passive venting

[ornate hamlet]

Interesting

[spark gale]

it attacc

it protecc

[olive ember]

which means as long as you don't take too much damage (or you are running lots of block efficiency) you will never really hit critical peril

[spark gale]

but most importantly... it deflecc

[muted wyvern]

Much protecc

[spark gale]

[muted wyvern]

bout to hop on and maybe try finding some nerds who wanna make new frens

wish me luck

lol

[ornate hamlet]

Good luck! 😄

[muted wyvern]

oh hell yeah, Upgraded my sword to yellow, hoping to get Deflector on it finally

[patent hatch]

Niceeeee

Best feat

[kindred delta]

hey folks, anyone got tips for making pick n' mix easy?

other than kinetic barrage or whatever

[olive ember]

rly just kinetic barrage imo, people say psykinetics aura but honestly you gotta kill them within 12 seconds, and KB lasts 10

best bet is to go heresy+ and search for a gunner pack

and then BB the first gunner normally, immediately use F to vent the 45% peril and kill the next 4 within the burst window

[kindred delta]

ah

doesnt sound too bad

how long does kinetic barrage even last?

[olive ember]

until your teammates kill the gunners for you

10s

[supple skiff]

about to try to launch darktide on my 10 year old laptop to check the shop, wish me luck lol

[kindred delta]

oh thats not bad

[olive ember]

kinetic barrage lasts 10 seconds, the achievement needs you to kill 5 elites/specials in 12

[kindred delta]

@supple skiff

[nimble needle]

Malleus Monstrum is the last one that I have to do

[olive ember]

that one is easy if you can find a premade

[kindred delta]

aggh everytime i check the shop theres never a staff i want

[nimble needle]

Oh hahaha friends he says

[olive ember]

I got mine via #vox-lfg-nasa, you just need a shield ogryn

[kindred delta]

does the F push count as damage from another source for malleus monstrum?

i could just use kinetic barrage and kill the daemonhost that way

[soft prism]

F doesnt deal damage outside of psy wrath

[kindred delta]

(daemonhosts make the process far easier)

[olive ember]

nope but yeah the start is to find a daemonhost, get a shield ogryn to just brace next to it

and then slowly kill it

[soft prism]

slowly

[olive ember]

while having your other two teammates guard against specials/hordes/ etc.

[mental kraken]

i've been trying 2 get cliffhanger 4 the last hour but i always just get 6

[topaz summit]

Cliffhanger was easier for me on the mission where you're defending data extraction at the top of a tower, mobs run along a tiny bridge

[soft prism]

do chasm logis on high intensity and get people to sit on the razor thin bridge at the beginning, gather the horde there and push em off

or do the espionage mission at the end

[kindred delta]

train raid, off to the side of the start bridge, wait for horde, pref with intens, have someone block and keep them on one part, then you go around and push from the side

yeah

what torvask said

that was how I did it back when it was 20

[lethal plover]

Man. Vets I see in damnation pubs go down in melee so quickly.

[teal cargo]

I got the push people off a ledge by accident

[soft prism]

most vets arent used to switching off their guns so when it comes to melee they panic

[teal cargo]

Idk why they got a Power Sword

[soft prism]

meanwhile they have the most broken melee weapon in the game

[teal cargo]

which real good

You cleave like 50 guys per swing

[soft prism]

yeah its dumb

when Im on my vet on higher diff i dont care. I just power it up and LMB

[teal cargo]

I should play Melee vet

[lethal plover]

Real good at damage but real bad at staying alive against sporadic attacks

[soft prism]

its gonna be interesting to see what happens to the vet players who crutch on that weapon if it gets nerfed

[frigid sparrow]

Hey Delerik, I'm trying out a trauma staff, but not really one shotting elites like shown. Is it perk/blessing dependant?

[soft prism]

proper block+dodging means you have no vulnerability in melee with that weapon

[lethal plover]

I never said it one shot elites though. That'd be too much. It oneshots the trash, and bursters

[supple skiff]

holy terra I think it killed my laptop lmao

[lethal plover]

You do like 500 damage

Should be higher but it's bugged

[teal cargo]

BOlter + PS life

[frigid sparrow]

I gotcha

I'm still fairly sure theres something wrong with emperors gift.

[soft prism]

ah yes,
The you die now combo

[lethal plover]

Only take bolter if some one else has a las gun already

[supple skiff]

working theory is that there's a hidden weekly limit per char

[lethal plover]

Your team needs you to kill gunmen

[frigid sparrow]

Weekly limit or theres a bug with the curio that gives % chance for curio drop

[teal cargo]

Who needs to kill gunmen smh

[frigid sparrow]

They "acknowledged" the bug on the forums, but gave no official reply

[teal cargo]

Just let psyker BB them dow

😔

[wary tendon]

for the weeklies that say 'kill x with ranged' does it only count basic left click attacks for staff?

[soft prism]

theres no telling, seems like me ogryn and psyker get WAY more gifts than my vet or zealot

proof they are the emperors favorites

[mortal stirrup]

anyone wanna try and help get the cliffhanger penance?? i know the method its just hard without team mates that help

[lethal plover]

Guilliman says emperor loves us all.
He wouldn't lie, would he?

[soft prism]

Dunno, lemme check girlymans space book

all it says is "Yes"

[olive ember]

too bad I use FS

[teal cargo]

How bad is veteran shop?

Cos man this endgame of never getting weapon you want sucks

[supple skiff]

will its all random, so its as bad as the powers that be will it

[tough lodge]

i can't seem to find a color change for any of the helmets, or is that section random as well?

[somber horizon]

I don't think the cosmetics switch out....unfortunately.

[supple skiff]

those are on timers, but I haven't seem them change.

obese megladon put in the timers but didn't have the next set of skins ready in time lol

[tough lodge]

rip, i need it to make my drip work

[spring nest]

they had them ready but cancelled cause of backlash to rework the store

[tough lodge]

rip

[spring nest]

ong i just want drip

[granite lance]

ok now that I've tried all the staves a few times I think I like void the best

void > surge > purge > trauma for me

Although I would personally rate the trauma higher if it didn't cost so much to fire

[tacit fractal]

@lethal plover What’s your axe exactly? Blessing and perk wise

[lethal plover]

Not even a good one

I don't have momentum

[frigid sparrow]

I got 2 gifts in 50 missions.

[vital bough]

So, some interesting stats on Soulfire:
4 stacks = 21
8 stacks = 76
12 stacks = 153
16 stacks = 240
20 stacks = 326
(This could possibly stack higher but I can't test in the meatgrinder as everything dies before I can proc it more than 5 times)

Also the stacks applied from your Purg staff have their own max stack limit(found in the 'Burn' bar when inspected) , but Soulblaze from Feats seems to override this and stack even higher than that when given the opportunity.
Example: My Purg staff has 80% on the Burn bar, max stack of 15 Soulblaze for 197 damage per tic at 15 stacks; yet Kinetic Overload will continuously stack past this, though the meatgrinder doesn't give good chances for me to stack kinetic overload as quickly as it could in a real match.

[rapid cliff]

Waiting for toughness curios is impossible

[ornate hamlet]

my first deflector

swag

[rigid widget]

I got a Voidstrike that can shoot whilst sprinting, neat but not exactly an amazing ability

[spiral remnant]

BIG E.... WHY

[rigid widget]

Thanks for the numbers

[spiral remnant]

😭

i hope we unlock the ability to scrap higher tier weapons

for crafting materials

[tacit fractal]

Ayo siblings there’s a vet talking shit about us being the worst archetype out of all 4 in #general-chat you lot wanna vouch me a bit?

[teal cargo]

ooof

worse than Psyker?

☠️

[teal cargo]

First mistake is going on general chat

[lethal plover]

anyone wants to do damnation endless with me?

[tacit fractal]

True

[drowsy fog]

sounds like some abhuman hate to me

[idle shuttle]

i was in the ogryn chat, saw pics of female ogryn

[mint imp]

Siblings ain't got time for this shit

Plot twist would be he's one of us anyway

[half iron]

my beloved says he is a visual learner😳

[tacit fractal]

Ig we’re the class people who don’t know how to play the class or the archetype in general will gladly call useless and worst

[teal cargo]

😔

just like in the Imperium

[idle shuttle]

i didnt play mage in vt2 so this is all new

[dense vault]

for what it´s worth, me and another psyker from the pubs carried 2 random veterans on damnation today and won the map

[half iron]

even as powerful as we are, we are still renowned and hated at the same time

[dense vault]

don´t let their pewpews put you down

what i heard from them most was "I NEED AMMO!"

[tacit fractal]

Wizard

Sienna

[idle shuttle]

harry

[tacit fractal]

No

[half iron]

psyker is cute because you get to watch the rest of the pub fight over ammo and grenades

[tacit fractal]

Ye

[idle shuttle]

what about ammo for your revolver??

jk

I went into the meat grinder to see what its all about

its about 110% worse than a staff

not sure why some are still running it

must be for fun or something

[half iron]

just think the revolver shoots tiny voidstrike orbs, then you know how to use it

[gray fossil]

PSA u can shock large enemies and then power attack and repeat, dont be a victim just cause ur squishy

[fickle mural]

Question, in the psyker spotlight video, he uses a flame staff. but he also makes the flames explode? is that something thats in game?

[paper wren]

Anyone have a rad tip for how to knock 7 idiots off a ledge and kill them real good? asking for a friend (myself)

[idle shuttle]

they dont explode

[opaque mason]

Been leveling psyker as of late, and personal experience confirms what I have seen in game earlier playing other classes:

We psykers are strong. Aint gonna change my mind. Do we have problems? Absolutely. As does every class in certain situations. But we are stronk

[idle shuttle]

maybe had the chance to BB feat on hit

10% chance every 15s

[fickle mural]

so whats happening here?

https://youtu.be/gLB1C33suH0?t=82

[idle shuttle]

lol

a barrel

[fickle mural]

aw damn it

[idle shuttle]

very hollywood of them

[river crest]

They definitely included that clip to make it look like the pysker was doing it though

[crisp yacht]

almost good? finesse is important for duelling sword?

[idle shuttle]

afaik finesse is crit

[brazen basalt]

headshot bonus, attack speed.

[fickle mural]

inspect the wep

mouse over stat

tells you what it does

[idle shuttle]

read the manual that came with the game box

[brazen basalt]

gentlemen, what exactly does charging the surge staff do? and how do i use it in general? it doesn't seem to do much, only stun a couple of dudes without killing them.

[fickle mural]

dont do that. at least now you can read what i means in game.

[idle shuttle]

stuns so your team can kill

psyker is a support nurse backup helpepr

doesnt kill anything

[fickle mural]

well brain pop does, but thats your "granade"

[sinful robin]

got malleus in a pug. 2 ppl died and chill zealot let me brain pop for 10 minutes. praise the emporer

[split elm]

Finally got a decent force sword. Rolled Deflector too. And… it sucks? My axes and dueling swords deal way more damage

[brazen basalt]

surge staff doesn't stop hordes too. they just sift through the stunned ones and keep on pouring.

[floral palm]

Perma expose Bulwark, No Specials can move. If you have any half competent Vet then any special you stun gets a one way ticket dirt nap asap.

[idle shuttle]

#psyker-class message

[tacit fractal]

General chat is brain rot man…

[fickle mural]

yeh but try dodging as much

wop you cant

[half iron]

as all generals are

[fickle mural]

dodges forever

[floral palm]

Because it wont help with hordes, thats more fire staff territory

[tacit fractal]

Yeah…

[idle shuttle]

@brazen basalt

if you mess up sprint cancel, F

[half iron]

i should check it out

[vagrant hearth]

guys maybe I didn't pay attention to the tutorial but what is the skull icon next to your health bar

[kindred delta]

is ascendant blaze good with the warp battery feat (6 warp charges)

[brazen basalt]

well, yes, it zaps, but doesn't exactly do much else.

[kindred delta]

just for clearing hordes and such

[idle shuttle]

warp charges. have 4 up for more dmg

[half iron]

[idle shuttle]

get them with brain pop

[vagrant hearth]

why do they seem to randomly replenish

even without brain pops

[idle shuttle]

your feats

are giving them to you

[half iron]

your feats

[frigid pond]

do you have the passive charge?

[split elm]

Well you have to, given how many swings you need to kill basic guys

[vagrant hearth]

I'm level 3

I dont have anything

[frigid pond]

like the 4% from teammate kills or AB

[brazen basalt]

pop doesn't do shit on heresy+, unfortunately.

[vagrant hearth]

just learning the game

[split elm]

Like, my dueling sword and axe one-shot many specials and elites just with heavy attack

[river crest]

The more you charge it, the more damage you do. Generally you want to spam rather than charge to keep things CC'ed, but if your party has things handled fine you can do full charges to increase the damage.

[idle shuttle]

warp charge dissapears too fast imo

give me 10 more secs

[floral palm]

Remember if you feel weak as a Psyker, at least we are canonically the class thats most likely to be able to kill a space marine ^^

[frigid pond]

its super good in heresy+ when things dont die right away, since it CCs large elite mobs

[tacit fractal]

Letting you know you’re gonna hear a lot of shit on by other classes about Psyker, ignore them. All classes are great in their own way

[river crest]

it just needs to decrease one by one instead of all at once

[split elm]

You either build for max stacks or ignore them completely

[idle shuttle]

whats the lore on that. brain pop a space marine?

[half iron]

my beloved thinks they are too overrated to live

[floral palm]

Yes

[kindred delta]

hey guys, psychic communion or cerebral lacerations, which is the better feat in general?

[brazen basalt]

we're also the only class with dueling swords. and that is a reason enough to play.

[idle shuttle]

communion

[tacit fractal]

Communion

[frigid pond]

communion is alright if you arent getting charges from anything else

[fickle mural]

on what difficulty.. cuse that sounds not right

[tacit fractal]

Isn’t that the 2nd row feat?

[river crest]

Communion is more useful 95% of the time. Cerebral Lacerations can be good for bosses and carapace mobs

[frigid pond]

lacerations is uh... kinda bad

[vagrant hearth]

I am level 3 I don't have anything but the base feats? Do warp charged sword attacks give you them?>

[frigid pond]

i use psy aura personally since i have enough warp charges with AB

but both are kinda meh

[tacit fractal]

Cerebral laceration sucks hard

[split elm]

Dueling sword has some hidden passive

[tacit fractal]

Was it 2nd row or was it 3rd?

[split elm]

It deals MASSIVE damage to flamers and stuff

[frigid pond]

dueling sword does alright damage, def not 1shot specials/elites though

[idle shuttle]

you sure its the skull and not the toughness?

[vague ridge]

is it just me or are the staffs just not worth using unless there is two psykers on the team and the stun. I've taken out whole hordes solo easily with my sword, but the staff does not help nearly as much in comparison

[split elm]

Go and headshot a Heresy flamer with a heavy attack

[brazen basalt]

also, do you have any tips for getting a "3 elites with one suicide" penance? how weakened should they be, and what is the easiest way to overheat fast?

[split elm]

In the psykhanium

[idle shuttle]

thats toughness

[half iron]

which staff👉👈

[echo parrot]

Bro what are your graphics settings

[frigid pond]

yeah thats just coherency

[vagrant hearth]

oh why does that randomly get numbers

[idle shuttle]

teammastes near you

[frigid pond]

its based on units close to you

yeah

[vagrant hearth]

lol that was motion blur

[frigid pond]

you get their passive as well

[half iron]

motion blur

[frigid pond]

if you BB someone right now it should show another icon next to that, thats wrap charges

[half iron]

wrap charges

[idle shuttle]

motion blur just like IRL

[vagrant hearth]

thanks man

[echo parrot]

Was about to say. Got that AF smeared with vasoline vibe you see on N64 games.

[vague ridge]

all of em honestly. I'd say the only one worth using imo is pry the surge for the stun, but when hordes are all around it barely even helps. the fire one is good to but still not great. I usually just go full melee with a revolver which is dissapointing cause I wanna use the staffs, but I dont they are worht bringing

[vagrant hearth]

lol yeah the settings are good

[frigid pond]

also which dueling sword, just curious

[half iron]

clearly you have not felt my beloved’s love

[fickle mural]

that icon is "coherency". the blue circle around a team mate shown in the basic tutorial. when its 1 you are alone, when its 2 or more then you are close enough to team to get the effect. coherency grants you passive toughness over time as well as any feats that effects coherency from team mates or from you

[vague ridge]

?

[frigid pond]

probably cuz you said fire isnt that great

[vagrant hearth]

thanks man

[frigid pond]

as a fire staff enjoyer i agree as well

mostly cuz for some reason randoms never bring horde clear :(

[solar remnant]

Surge is kind of crazy, really feel like a support class with it stunning every enemy

[river crest]

if you're in a horde heavy mission, purg staff will be better than a melee weapon for handling them, if there isn't a zealot in the group with their own flamethrower. For most missions, surge is your go-to for providing CC. Voidstrike feels nice and can handle both ranged and hordes decently, but I don't feel like it fills any particular niche.

[vague ridge]

idk like I said, I've cleared hordes solo with my sword a ton of times with ease, have not been able to do it with any staff

[tacit fractal]

Psyker is a support

[river crest]

trauma is just avoid

[frigid pond]

almost every case purge clears better then melee

[tacit fractal]

Trauma doesn’t exist except in Delerik’s view

[magic hull]

when theres a huge horde surge is useless

[river crest]

smaller hordes then

[fickle mural]

ah there is your problem. "solo" in a team game

[frigid pond]

usually i just focus on clearing horde/keeping them away from my vet so they can clear elites/specials

and purge has more control over that then melee

[river crest]

melee weapons can clear hordes but they do it slower than a flamer, so you can more easily get overwhelmed in higher difficulties

[vague ridge]

"solo" as in my whole team died except me multiple times, so I had no choice

[frigid pond]

from my experience

yeah ideally purge helps them from dying

split ups happen though so is what it is

[covert cosmos]

lol.. my experience has been all my randoms bring horde clear, but nobody has ranged

[idle shuttle]

ah delerik the trauma specialist

[frigid pond]

voidstrike moment

but yeah

[fickle mural]

well yeh that sucks, and good on you for saveing it. but a flame staff can kill of more chaff than any grenade or evicerator weilding zealot as long as they can keep em off you

[frigid pond]

i do like that psy can fill whatever "role" is missing

depending on staff

[fickle mural]

granted, same goes for a zealot with a flamer, but then you need to keep em off the zealot.

[magic hull]

surge is nice but only when you have scattered enemies especially ranged

[river crest]

yus

[frigid pond]

i do hope trauma gets buffed and it does lean more to elite/special clearing

lowering the peril cost will do wonders for that staff

[vague ridge]

yeah thats what suck about random q. I'll occasionally do lfg, but I typically solo q and most the time my teams just watch me in a corner cutting down a horde myself and dont help lmao

[magic hull]

if you have a huge chunk of horde how the hell are you expecting to CC ranged?

[lethal plover]

any damnation enjoyer wanna do damnation endless with me?

[patent hatch]

What’s y’all opinion on chain sword on Psyker. Just got a god rolled one

[long wharf]

you don't

CC things at far range isn't your job as a psyker

[frigid pond]

not a huge fan since psy has force sword/dueling sword

[covert cosmos]

ive never even tried chain sword on psyker

[river crest]

positioning. Though that's not always an option ofc

[frigid pond]

and yeah usually ranged arent ur first prio with surge

[magic hull]

sooner or later u gonna have to switch to melee

[covert cosmos]

chainsword seems like it would be a great weapon thats outclassed by force sword and dueling sword

[magic hull]

purgatus you dont even have to

[river crest]

chain sword feels better at horde clearing than force sword, while still having the good charge damage (and no peril generation), but no deflector

[patent hatch]

Duelling sword is nutty af tbh

[frigid pond]

dueling is a ton of fun

i like force sword a bit more

[long wharf]

axe is best for blocking all day long

[frigid pond]

but i really like dueling

[bright mica]

I mean you could be goofy like me and do Light -> QQ cancel spam with Force Sword against horde lmao

[patent hatch]

Axe and Dueling are what I run not a fan of force

[magic hull]

force is deflection mostly

[ornate hamlet]

It feels wrong to not run duelling or force sword just because theyre the class’s unique weapons tbh

[fickle mural]

it is, but the special on the force sword is stronger, as well as deflector as you mentioned.

[river crest]

I'd rather just give 'em the axe

😄

[magic hull]

axe still the best imo

[bright mica]

I don't blame you lmao

[frigid pond]

i like the special damage on force, its satisfying to me, though probably not worth it

[patent hatch]

I just like being able to switch to a non force weapon and quell super fast

[long wharf]

I'm waiting for purge staff to get a buff/mechanics adjustment (or soulblaze to get adjusted) before I level this

[frigid pond]

i really want soulblaze to maybe tick faster

that might be enough of a buff, im not sure though

[patent hatch]

My new chain sword is 80, 80 79, 77, 75 I think I have to run it

[frigid pond]

im just worried raw numbers buffs would be too much

[river crest]

Wrack and Ruin needs to work off any random kill instead of just elites so you can reliably apply soulblaze with BB into hordes.

[patent hatch]

tbh purgatus doesn’t suck

[patent hatch]

Wrack and Ruin is so ass idk

[frigid pond]

purge doesnt suck, i love purge

[long wharf]

and even though surge isn't for killing, don't sleep on a well-rolled surge staff that can kill gunners/specials pretty easily

[frigid pond]

but AB and soulblaze itself needs some love

[patent hatch]

true :(

[patent hatch]

nice 😊

[frigid pond]

AB is decent at 6stacks but even then its not...amazing

[long wharf]

even in damnation, I regularly kill specials while stunning them

[half iron]

soulblaze needs more swag

[long wharf]

the perks are shit, too, I'm hoping I can roll both of them off in the future

[mental rock]

for now you will only be able to trade off one perk once it comes out

[long wharf]

I'm hoping we get an option to reforge the weapon

[scenic siren]

The only good staff I have found is a voidstrike. I managed to get the kill 90 enemies in 30 seconds achievement with it while playing heresy. I use the sword/ dashes to position the horde to come from a single direction so that I can hit most of them with each shot. It has transfer peril making it very spam-able in hordes. Line up with about head level of the basic guys and clears almost the entire peril meter. It still does not feel great when surrounded in hordes, but can be used like beam staff secondary from vt2 by spamming partially charged botts at the floor and rapidly switching to heavy/cleave melee attacks. The other benefit is for staggering far ranged specials through the horde

[patent hatch]

Wtf is enemy hit mass

[long wharf]

your melee attacks can bounce off heavy enemies

heavy+armored

[patent hatch]

Oh shit

Devestating strike is alr then Ig

[patent ocean]

Voidstrike is best staff, hits every dopamine receptor in my brain when I mow an entire horde down

[plucky token]

Voidstrike is the best all rounder. Surge is the Support CC staff. Other two staffs are meh.

[ornate hamlet]

I cant comment on the staves being useless because of how viscerally I disagree to be honest

[vagrant cedar]

Purgatoris is best

[plucky token]

Purg is god at cleairng hordes but thats it.

[vagrant cedar]

why would you even use surge

purg does the same + kills everyone

[ornate hamlet]

If you have any teammates doing their roles all of the staves have solid CC/control options and limited range abilities, with BB supposed to be used to pick off annoying or tanky enemies

[nocturne palm]

what level should i start doing heresy missions at?

[patent hatch]

25

If not 30

Psyker builds are pretty reliant on those last 2 perks

[covert cosmos]

surge is way better at stunning what it does hit. can even stun mutants

[river crest]

purg only staggers hordes really, and it has a shorter range.

[plucky token]

Surge staff stun locks elites including charging mutants and poxbombers. It also fried armored gunners.

[river crest]

and zero long range options (not that staff left click are that good in general, but I'd rather have it than the purg left click)

[covert cosmos]

i would do heresy as soon as you are comfortable with malice

[plucky token]

It does bad damage verses little horde guys

[clear heath]

Surge staggers bulwarks and makes them stop blocking

[nocturne palm]

okee thank you

[vagrant cedar]

poxxies die so easily, shouldn't be a staff-related. you can stun dogs with purge as well, only issue is the charging mutant, which you can also dodge like 90% of the time.

you can also stop poxxie bombers with your F

[olive ember]

surge staff is way more reliable than purge

[river crest]

I have found F far less reliable at bursters than surge

[olive ember]

I'd rather have a flamer zealot and bring a surge staff over just using a purge

[clear heath]

Surge is also just safer cause you don't need to maintain line of sight
You barely even need to see the enemies really

[half iron]

use the purg staff anyway

[patent hatch]

The best way to deal with poxers is to shove and dodge

[vagrant cedar]

maybe you just too reliant on the stun of surge and dunno how to use game mechanics to make purge a better staff

[half iron]

i prefer the shove and dodge method over anything else. also my name appears on the kill feed uwu

[olive ember]

those stupid af dogs and their jank af hitboxes piss me off hard

[river crest]

yeah, it fills the same shoes as BB. Stand/dodge out of cover, activate, dodge/duck back into cover

repeat

[covert cosmos]

surge is way safer vs poxwalkers

[olive ember]

It can also spam CC in multiple directions

[plucky token]

Surge also does more damage verses armored targets than Purge.

[covert cosmos]

it's not necessary but its good utility to have